東方封魔録 ～ the Story of Eastern Wonderland

[Cream Soda]

Congrats on what is probably a world record!

[KirbyComment]

No post of a new score this time, but something kind of silly happened during one of my attempts today and I just have to show it real quick, okay?

It's too bad because I was on PB-pace and ruined it because of pressure and stuff.


4 days later...

ReimuC is being too difficult right now and I can't get any better runs. So I decided to try out ReimuB to see how much easier and optimal this attack type is for scoring. And I got this within 1 day:

Easy - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 19,941,580 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

Yeah, ReimuB was defenitely easier than ReimuC. ReimuB is alot saver during the chasing orbs in Stage 3 and during Stage 4 (not counting the bosses). Of course this didn't come without several danger spots. I ended up with 6 unwanted deaths which most of them should've been avoided (while still ending up with almost 20 million). I got 2 65,530 god bombs in Stage 1 and got rekt in Stage 4 despite the fact that the first half went very smoothly.

Also, apologies for the wonky quality. I'm using a bad recorder for this and apparently now that I'm playing the main game of SoEW, there's some weird effects going on. Normally I would use Fraps to record, but PC-98 games won't get recorded while I set the game to full-screen (which is how I play optimally).

Also, I noticed this right here and it's unfortunate that you have to 1cc to actually make the high-score count, because this would be more optimal in terms of scoring. Even though you'll have slightly less point items collected, the clear bonus itself is higher. Does anyone actually know what determines the "Stage"-value? I can't make sense of it.

[SomeGuy712x]

@KirbyComment:
There's something weird about your post there, and I'm wondering if it's a glitch with the MotK site or something, but some of the text in your post gets cutoff by the right side of my browser's window instead of properly word wrapping, and I don't see any horizontal scroll bar available, so I can't see the cutoff text on the right side of your post. (Although, I can read all of the text in your post below "Topic Summary" as I'm typing my reply here, since the words properly wrap around on the "Post reply" page.)

Also, I got a good laugh out of how fast Rika went down in your "Full Power Early" video!
(Maybe there should be a special high score category for scores attained with the use of continues...)

[KirbyComment]

There's something weird about your post there, and I'm wondering if it's a glitch with the MotK site or something, but some of the text in your post gets cutoff by the right side of my browser's window instead of properly word wrapping, and I don't see any horizontal scroll bar available, so I can't see the cutoff text on the right side of your post. (Although, I can read all of the text in your post below "Topic Summary" as I'm typing my reply here, since the words properly wrap around on the "Post reply" page.)

That happened to me as well. I think that happened because I used this to seperate the 2 events ( _____ ) since my score post happened 4 days later. I thought I fixed it, but apparently you (and probably others) still don't see the entire post. I think if you press Ctrl - , the post should become more visible

[SomeGuy712x]

@KirbyComment:
Well, we shouldn't have to use the zoom out function in order to see your whole post. Maybe you can edit your post and shorten the separator line or something to fix the issue.

Also, I keep meaning to ask this: What does "PB" stand for? (Like, when you say that you were "on PB-pace" in that post of yours.)

[KirbyComment]

Well, we shouldn't have to use the zoom out function in order to see your whole post. Maybe you can edit your post and shorten the separator line or something to fix the issue.

Also, I keep meaning to ask this: What does "PB" stand for? (Like, when you say that you were "on PB-pace" in that post of yours.)

I shortened it a little bit now. Hopefully it's now all readable.

PB stands for Personal Best. Alot of speedrunners (like me) use this term to indicate their fastest time. Or in this case, I use it for my highest score, which is my Personal Best.

[SomeGuy712x]

@KirbyComment:
Ah, okay. I kept seeing the PB abbreviation in many places, and I kept wondering if that was something that I should've known or easily figured out already. Thanks.

As for your other post, the words are still cutoff by the right side of the page for me. I just thought of something: Try putting "hr" in brackets, instead of using a ton of underscore characters. I think that'll produce a line of the proper length.

@Spell Check:
"Should've" and "that'll" are real words, dude.

[Karisa]

Also, I noticed this right here and it's unfortunate that you have to 1cc to actually make the high-score count, because this would be more optimal in terms of scoring. Even though you'll have slightly less point items collected, the clear bonus itself is higher. Does anyone actually know what determines the "Stage"-value? I can't make sense of it.

I think anything-goes scoring would be interesting (there's also starting with no extra lives, seeing as SoEW actually increases the clear bonus for reducing starting lives instead of just giving a penalty for increasing it), and the lack of replays wouldn't be an issue when a game doesn't have replays in the first place.

But I think the standard for scoring is default settings, no continues? I don't know much about scoring in other danmaku games outside of Touhou, though.

I think SoEW is one of the only Touhou games that'd be beneficial for, anyway, though the DDC Lunatic TAS also benefits from continues.

As for the clear bonus, I think this is accurate, though it's written a bit confusingly, and the exact formula for Extra's time bonus isn't known.

Also yes, use [hr] for dividing lines.
^ Like this.

And you're a speedrunner? I didn't know that. I happen to watch a lot of speedrunners on Twitch, mostly of Zelda, Metroid, and Mario games.

[KirbyComment]

As for the clear bonus, I think this is accurate, though it's written a bit confusingly, and the exact formula for Extra's time bonus isn't known.

And you're a speedrunner? I didn't know that. I happen to watch a lot of speedrunners on Twitch, mostly of Zelda, Metroid, and Mario games.

Thing is, when I did the Full Power Early thing, I didn't have 2,000 clear bonus, but 4,200. And when I did a normal run right after, I had 3,400 as the Stage Bonus. So this page doesn't explain it accurately. Are there actually higher bonuses when setting your lives/bombs count to something below the default?

And yes, I'm a speedrunner. I run Rayman 2 100%. And even though I haven't done runs in 5 months, I found a bunch of interesting stuff lately.

[Karisa]

Hmm... OK, I'd never looked closely at that part of the clear bonus before (and managed to entirely miss that it's not included in that wiki page), since I always thought it was a static stage-based bonus like in many later games.

I checked a few videos that exist, and it seems it was:
3400, 4000, 3400, 4000 in my Easy 20m
3400, 4000, 4000, 3600 in your Easy 19.9m
3400, 4600, 6000, 4000 in my Hard 29m
3400, 4600, 6000, 4000 in my Normal 20m [same as in my Hard run!]
4400, 5800, 3400, 4000 in Prinny's Normal 1cc
4200 in your Full Power Early video as you said.

Just a random guess (based on the fact that I died in my Easy run before the stage 3 boss while you didn't, and you died to Marisa while I didn't), but I wonder if it's actually based on your current rank? Perhaps Easy's max rank (if this game is like EoSD, max rank is lower on Easy than higher difficulties) corresponds to 4000, while higher difficulties' max rank corresponds to 6000.

That wouldn't explain Prinny's Normal 1cc getting a much higher "stage" bonus on stage 2 despite bombing 3 times and not collecting as many items, though...

[Zil]

It is on the wiki page, just not translated.

ステージ　ノーミスでいる時間やコンティニュー回数などにより

It's something about no missing and time and continues. Rank is probably a good guess. The manual says it can go from 0 to 64,000

[KirbyComment]

Easy - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 20,713,130 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

A very solid run!
I only died once during the run which was when fighting Marisa (as opposed to my previous run having 6 unintentional deaths :V). I used some bombs, just to be safe (and if I didn't use them I probably would've had a deathfest again). Other than that death, there's really not anything bad about the run. I suppose Stage 2/3 could've been better and having better luck when I burn through my lives at the end, but that's about it.


Normal - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 20,127,690 - C - AutofireOn - Screenshot

Obviously not as solid as the run above. Everything went really well, until Stage 4. The very first enemy of Stage 4 shot a projectile on the first frame and suprised me, yay! From there it just went upside-down. Marisa's difficulty boost threw me off after being so used to Easy difficulty, so that went a little badly  :V

Since I had the run recorded, I may as well share the scores I had at the end of each stage. There's no real point uploading a video of this, since score-wise Normal is an exact copy (aside from clear bonuses): | Stage 1 = 1,870,210 | Stage 2 = 5,491,740 | Stage 3 = 12,107,810 | Stage 4 = 18,676,270 |

I think I'll leave this category as it is for now and move on to ReimuA and Hard/Lunatic.....
(Also, this is very silly but, my score is EXACTLY 100,000 points away from WR )

It's something about no missing and time and continues. Rank is probably a good guess. The manual says it can go from 0 to 64,000.

Also also, it can go up to 6,400, not 64,000. When I saw that, it just seemed ridiculous to me 


(tries out ReimuA...)

Easy - ReimuA
KirbyComment - 21,049,470 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

Yup...that happened...

Apparently ReimuA is just as optimal as ReimuB because of her higher speed but higher risk at getting points when the screen is crowded with enemies.
The first time I got to Stage 3, the army of orbs at the end destroyed me. Not bombing there caused me to lose 3 lives. So I tried bombing. While that wasn't as optimal, that run ended up being a new World Record.

The run had 0 unintentional deaths. The only mistake was that I killed Marisa 1 cycle too early. It was my first time fighting her and I didn't know how long I should be damaging her. As I was thinking too much about that, I ended up not realizing the 6th orb-set died and damaged her enough to get killed, so that's 200,000 points lost. Other than that, no losses really.


Normal - ReimuA
KirbyComment - 21,477,840 - C - AutofireOn - Screenshot1 - Screenshot2

[KirbyComment]

Extra - ReimuA
KirbyComment - 25,729,230 - C - AutofireOn - Screenshot

Yeah, ReimuA now becomes terrible once you're trying to do the Extra Stage.

Extra - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 33,153,840 - C - AutofireOn - Screenshot

[KirbyComment]

Extra - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 38,105,400 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

[t_prinny]

I'll just leave this here. I don't know when I'll get back to SoEW.

Lunatic - ReimuA
Prinny - 14,526,330 - C - AutofireOn - Video

Didn't shoot in stage 5 until Mima. Didn't want to deal with the suicide bullets.

[KirbyComment]

Wait, I'm not fully dominating the Normal Mode leaderboard? Let's change that!

Normal - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 22,068,970 - C - AutofireOn - Screenshot1 - Screenshot2

Welp! Uh, I guess I beat my ReimuA score with this run. Sadly I had a death on Marisa but aside from that no mistakes. My Stage 1 was really good, had really good luck. My Stage 3 was insanely good, as I can show right here. My clear bonus apparently was too high for the game to handle ;3
During the section with the big groups of orbs dropping Power and Point Items, I tried to delay my shots to hit them with, so they'd be more bunched together. Along with that and me moving to the right spots I managed to get 62 Point Items total from the stage. I think my rank was also higher than it normally is, considering I got 6,000 as the Stage value on my clear bonus there. So yeah, really happy with this :>

[Cream Soda]

Lunatic - ReimuB
cream-s - 19,376,240 - 5 - no auto - screenshot

I will try to improve on this.

[Cream Soda]

Lunatic - ReimuB
cream-s - 21,620,680 - 4 - no auto - screenshot - video

[Das]

Hard - ReimuA
Das - 18,772,850 - C - AutoFireOn - Screenshot

[Das]

Lunatic - ReimuA
Das - 25,418,640 - 4 - AutoFireOn - Screenshot Video/Replay

(sorry for double post)

[Zigzagwolf]

Extra - ReimuC
Zigzagwolf - 15,458,060 - C - No auto - Screenshots/Video

An Extra stage NMNB.

[Das]

Lunatic - ReimuA
Das - 27,832,720 - 5 - AutoFireOn - Screenshot

no recording please dont hurt me

[KirbyComment]

Reposting this:

Normal - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 22,068,970 - C - AutofireOn - Screenshot1 - Screenshot2

[KirbyComment]

Extra - ReimuA
KirbyComment - 38,386,620 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

I just wanted to improve my ReimuA run and ended up beating my ReimuB run in the process somehow. Also I got a bomb drop on the Extra Stage. I've only had this happen once before.

Extra - ReimuC
KirbyComment - 33,862,900 - C - AutofireOn - Replay


Hard - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 30,858,690 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

Finally did a Hard run. Surprisingly I got a run to finish on the first day of doing full attempts after several days of practice. This run is pretty much the same as the old ReimuB record, except that it stalls Marisa for 800k more points and gains 200k from Stage 5.  I'll try to improve, but won't mind it if I don't. I reached my goal of 30m with this.

[KirbyComment]

Hard - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 30,898,850 - C - AutofireOn - Screenshot1 - Screenshot2
 
After that whole month of effort of trying to get past Stage 3, I still end up dying in Stage 4 from RNG and decided to keep going, so this minor improvement is not worth of a video

[Das]

Lunatic - ReimuA
Das - 30,684,360 - All - AutoFireOn - Screenshot Video

Video soon, it'll start at Rika due to me not expecting to pb and starting recording there.

[KirbyComment]

I noticed my Hard ReimuB PB had a video link added to the board, but that's a run that scores 30,858,690, not 30,898,850. I decided to not upload a video of my 30,898,850 run, since the improvement was so minor.

[Karisa]

I guess I didn't notice since the scores only vary by 3 digits-- probably added it when filling out the Touhou Hall of Records links. I've now removed the video link from the first post, and added a note in the spreadsheet that the video's of a negligibly lower score.

[KirbyComment]

Revisiting my oldest categories...

Easy - ReimuC
KirbyComment - 21,519,230 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

Easy - ReimuB
KirbyComment - 22,909,640 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

Easy - ReimuA
KirbyComment - 24,025,500 - C - AutofireOn - Replay

[Kurzov]

Easy - ReimuB
kurzov - 1,418,590 - 2 - - (no replay)