Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Superb)

[Bardiche]

If you know, isn't that a good reason to actually, you know... Try to improve your gameplay and listen to people when they point out you're arriving at the right conclusion merely by coincidence? Even if LSD were my scumbuddy I wouldn't tell her that you've a hard-on for logic, because it's not true.

You hate logic. You have a hard-on for logical fallacies.

[Sky_Paladin]

Dorian, really?

He said too often that he would claim ITP as scum to really think that he could get away with it.

He is not trying 'to get away with it'.

His actions this phase do not reflect somebody who was trying to get away with it.  Instead he barely argued with anybody about the votes on him and spent the last third of the phase arguing if Lexi was scum or not.  When I pointed this out he immediately started questioning Affinity who was on his wagon and then gave up. 

Like I'd love it if some of the other players that apparently signed up to play could post.  Maybe I'm going crazy because I'm talking to myself, ne?

Try to improve your gameplay and listen to people when they point out you're arriving at the right conclusion merely by coincidence?

..........................................

[Lexicat]

Bard is a meanie :V

[Bardiche]

Maybe I'm going crazy because I'm talking to myself, ne?

"Going crazy" implies you aren't crazy yet, but you are regrettably quite insane. Even if LSD and I were Scum, you basically reasoned I was Scum based on LSD's actions instead of my own, which is arriving at a right conclusion by use of wrong reasoning and arguments. Like concluding a raven is a raven because all ravens are black birds, and this bird is black; for all intents and purposes, it could've been a vulture.

Bard is a meanie :V

When I call you LSD it's affectionately, though Sky Paladin makes me feel it's a misnomer and you're actually perfectly sane and not crazy.

[ActionDan]

is there a claim a coming?

[Dorian White]

Geez Sky, first you saw Lucy as scum cause Raikaria attacked her and now you see her as scum cause Bard defended her, before we got his flip. It's both wine and it both attract attention.
More intent to suicide?

Yes, Sky really! I know that the concluding comes too late but work was hell this week and I was to busy reading the walls of a certain someone to think much about it.

[ActionDan]

oh

##Vote: Bard

[Lexicat]

"Going crazy" implies you aren't crazy yet, but you are regrettably quite insane. Even if LSD and I were Scum, you basically reasoned I was Scum based on LSD's actions instead of my own, which is arriving at a right conclusion by use of wrong reasoning and arguments. Like concluding a raven is a raven because all ravens are black birds, and this bird is black; for all intents and purposes, it could've been a vulture.

When I call you LSD it's affectionately, though Sky Paladin makes me feel it's a misnomer and you're actually perfectly sane and not crazy.

<3

[Dorian White]

And there you have it.

[Bardiche]

So I'll flip Town in a few moments. Probably an hour or less. Who's Scum and why?

Schezo is unlikely Scum due to the way he handled Raikaria. If you think Schezo's Scum, you need to explain his Raikaria business as extreme bussing. Why is it extreme bussing?
ActionDan is likely Scum due to his way of approaching D1 and D2. He deigned not to do anything Day 1 until brought afore the hymnal altar, and Day 2 has opted to stay on the sidelines. That's a very comfortable position to be.
Huh Whatty is unlikely Scum due to constantly begging for my Lynch, which is too high profile for a Scum mislyncher to do. It's bringing too much attention to himself, and in this respect, Scum gambits cannot apply.
LSD could only be Scum if you argue her terseness is to mask Scum intent, but she isn't Scum by virtue of that. It's a playstyle argument, though one cannot help but secretly admire LSD managing to shoo people off from putting her in the spotlight.
Moridin is likely Scum because he has virtually no reasons for his votes anywhere and is floundering around like a Sky Paladin without logical fallacies.
Sky Paladin is a confusion case because I can see a Scum Paladin also using the same whackjob reasons to justify a mislynch.
Dorian is adorable and I can't read him.
Affinity is likely Scum due to refusal to look beyond his preferred lynch and spending much effort just flopping around going "man why aren't you voting bard", instead of pressing people to explain their reasoning and countering that for his preferred lynch. All he does is repeat the same arguments over and over any time he posts, like a record. A bad one. Not Led Zeppelin. Probably something shitty.

[Bardiche]

Cut, so flipping sooner than that. :V

[Bardiche]

Out of all of that, I'd counsel Sky Paladin to review his logic for saying why someone is Scum and determine whether his conjecture has a place here. It's quite easy to assess what sort of person you are, Sky Paladin; I'm not some prodigal psychologist whose keen eye can discern your love of (what you claim to be) logic. I'm only being mean because you frustrate.

Dorian should not use meta arguments so much, they're unbecoming. If you want your lynch out instead of what a bunch of loud nobodies want, you need to assert yourself more strongly. Catching Scum is an art, an art designed to woo ladies. You cannot woo any lady by being a nobody.

[Bardiche]

Also, the rules permit discussion of game even after hammer falls, so feel free to ask any last questions.

[Sky_Paladin]

I didn't realise we could chat at twilight!  How wonderful.

Well seeing that this might be game end, I'll clarify. 

You can't understand where I'm coming from because you think I'm a programmer with a hard on for logic.  I'm not.  I'm an engineer with a hard on for maths and science.  You are certainly familiar with the scientific method, which basically goes:

Make a guess -> make a test -> check the result -> analyse it -> start again with a better guess. 

I didn't know that you and Lexi were in a QT together, I merely suspected it.  I hate gambitting though so I just floated out a suspicion to test your reactions.  None of you rejected it (you called it dumb) so I guessed one or both of you were actually in a qt and were afraid that I had worked it out because of an ability.  The big giveaway was that neither of you asked why I believed this which any town player would have done as their first response. 
So I put more weight on this and watched for further reactions from other people, not just yourselves.  EG Affinity/Moridin/Serela made themselves suspicious because of their poor reactions to a town player bothering to look for the third scum.  Then I went and tested the hypothesis (the three of you were scum) against the real world situation by running through the game thread with the guess that the three of you were scum, and it looked like a match.  So I figured the hypothesis was correct. 

*shrug*   What would you have done?

Also I agree with your scum assessments.  I really did want to go JUSTICE POWER on most of the players in this game. 

[WHMZakeri]

Your level of hype is ...
...a baseball tournament!

Just: (6) Prims, Affinity, Moridin84, Lexicat, Sky_Paladin, ActionDan Lynched
Moridin: (1)  Schezo,
Schezo: (1) Dorian

Not voting: Serela, Just

Just was lynched
He was Mandrill, a member of the mafia.
he had no special powers.

You have until tomorrow, 7:00 p.m. EST or specifically 24 hours to send in all night actions you may have.

[Bardiche]

I'll save the comment I had written up to the post-game. :V

[Moridin]

Two for two. Mafia sure is easy.

With twelve people altogether, we can probably assume three MAFIA players in total right? So if can only lose if we manage to mislynch.. five times? Statistically speaking, this is unlikely so I think the best course of action is to put everyone's name in randomizer and lynch them in that order.

Therefore, people should be lynched in the following order:
- Sky_Paladin
- Dorian
- Serela
- Schezo
- ActionDan
- Huhwhat
- Lexicat
- Affinity

[Moridin]

That was a joke.

[WHMZakeri]

Prims is dead, Jims. I mean Jim.
He was The Leader of the Cheer Reader
Outside of rhyming prowess, He had no special powers.

With 8 Alive, it takes 5 votes to reach Majority
You have 72 Hours left
(Phase change was withheld by fifteen minutes due to a poorly timed nap reasons.)

[ActionDan]

So.

Wat to do now.

[Sky_Paladin]

Moridin, can you please explain why you did worse-than-nothing with your night talk ability?

Schezo, are you counter claiming Moridin or not?  I'm not just gonna vote him because 'something cool will happen'.  I might vote him because he appears inherently scummy on his own, though. 

My heart is set on a Lexi lynch because I think she's totes scum and if we happen to mislynch, it may as well be on somebody who is hostile and anti-town, so likely scum.  I also don't discount the chance that Bard was defending Lexi to help get a mislynch on her when he flipped, but seeing as Lexi implied she was scum with Bard with her posts, I think that's unikely. 

However, I never got around to properly reading Moridin/Schezo so I'll do that next. 

CF7/Serela's slot rapidly diminishing in my opinion because Serela's net contribution on day 2 was nil.  However I feel like I could say the same about several others.  Frustration. 

[Serela]

Prims died and no one was surprised at all. (If he made it another night past this without dying I would have tried to policy lynch him)

Anyway I read overnight for once (shock!) since I still wasn't exactly done when the day had ended. Let's see, starting with Schezo.

Schezo defended bard d1 but went after raikaria pretty hard all day. There was the momentary switch to dan I guess and he didn't do a whole lot d2? Not really little enough for it to be explicitly bad but, :T. Yeah, Schezo's like, okay sure I'd be okay with him getting lynched I guess, but I could take it or leave it.

I wanted to start the day voting Moridin until he said "That was a joke", on the basis that I couldn't comprehend an actual townie possibly thinking that no matter how mafia illiterate they were, but that maybe scum!Moridin panicking with all his buddies dead and people liable to lynch him soon...? Yeah it was a little strawgrabby, admittedly. The only reason I'd still be okay with lynching Moridin is honestly just the power of PoE.

The only other people I'd really consider lynching (without something notable occurring like a good case I hadn't thought of) are Affinity or LLD and my Affinity suspicion is pretty meh and LLD is... uhm... herself, and I don't really know what to do with that or how to even touch that, so I guess she's doing something right even though honestly it doesn't look to me like she's really done much of anything at all worth caring about. :S?

I realize this is a pretty uninspiring set of scum suspects but you gotta admit yesterday was just Bard Dies Day and some people going "hey wanna lynch moridin/schezo? please? with a cherry on top?"

cut by sky reading later

[Serela]

I could explain why everyone else is town but I don't think anyone really cares

[Serela]

CF7/Serela's slot rapidly diminishing in my opinion because Serela's net contribution on day 2 was nil.

I clearly spent all the time I had available trying to catch up on the game, so. :T

[Schezo]

you didn't do it yet so no you fuck
It's really going to kill you to vote 1/5 on the wagon?  serious.

anyways I'll finish this later.

[Serela]

I'll vote moridin if something cool will happen sure

##vote Moridin

[Schezo]

you have to say you sheep the case too.

Though I have to set it all up and can't be fucked right now later whatever I don't even want moridin right now anyways.

[Serela]

What are you going to do, lie detect me? Please don't cop me, either. :C I'm Serela. Cop SkyPaladin instead. Not that I know if you're actually a cop please don't answer that.

Actually no don't cop SkyPal, my reason for SUPER TOWN CLEARING him is that after that LLD/Bard team fiasco yesterday, there is like no way in hell SkyPal is scum with Bard.

[Serela]

(And then dan was the d1 scum counterwagon and that only leaves dorian who is also town so yeah, everyone left was on my "I guess they're my scum suspects" list)

[Sky_Paladin]

Schezo

I don't even want moridin right now anyways.

Who DO you want and why?