Author Topic: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)  (Read 45287 times)

Hello Purvis

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Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #480 on: April 14, 2013, 06:03:46 PM »
Two lines of thought.

A. We're unlikely to find anything direct. Like I said, if this story were well known enough to be written down and easily findable, chances are it wouldn't the obscure legend it is. So, I am thinking we'll have to be sneaky. For instance, a garden like that probably needs water, probably very high quality water. Following that up may give us a sneaky way to go about it; whatever people who traveled through there and wrote it down have a chance of making notes about water quality, since it's a big deal to pretty much everything.

B. If we can't think of ways to be sneaky, this is an excellent place to burn an insight point.

Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #481 on: April 15, 2013, 02:00:18 AM »
Perhaps not just quality water, but a source that isn't drawn upon by other sources as well. If this Yuuka values her privacy, it makes sense for her to have a watering hole that's off the beaten path as well. Perhaps a small freshwater pond or lake.

Insight point, though. That is a good idea, but how should we phrase it to get the most effect?

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Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #482 on: April 15, 2013, 04:10:13 AM »
Also plausible!

As far as the phrasing, I would go for seeking out inspiration on some angle we feel would likely be recorded in a library of this nature and likely to give us something like decent confirmation/denial of the garden's existence and/or location.

This may be a good thing to do after trying to drag information out of Shuuei, though.

Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #483 on: April 15, 2013, 04:52:36 AM »
Assuming she doesn't get all prickly on us for bothering her two days in a row. She didn't come across as the friendliest of librarians. Damn sure knows her stuff, but still.

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Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #484 on: April 15, 2013, 05:31:12 AM »
Indeed. We're going to have to walk on eggshells with that speech. Did we tell her the truth about the disease? We might need to break that out in an emergency if not. =[



>How's that plant coming along? Any changes? Is it still properly moist?

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« Reply #485 on: April 15, 2013, 05:51:46 AM »
If memory serves, we sort of danced around it, hinted that we had a pressing need for the cure, but I don't believe we told her outright. I think the last people we told, straight out, were the pirates.

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Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #486 on: April 15, 2013, 06:01:24 AM »
That can be a possible trump card if we fuck it up. But it'd be better not to fuck it up in the first place.

Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #487 on: April 20, 2013, 03:35:37 AM »
>How's that plant coming along? Any changes? Is it still properly moist?

>It does not appear to have changed in any noticeable way, nor is it obviously drier than when you watered it just a few hours ago.

>Are we fastedious enough to put away our things?
>Well, even if we are, we've accumulated a large collection, and we have better things to do than put everything away just so. Plus, we'll probably be back, anyway.
>Glance over the titles, to keep in mind what we've read already in case they're gone when we come back, then head outside and glance around and sniff around for the dining hall, or whatever this campus has that's within range of our nose.

>You certainly can be, if you care to. But you're also hungry and have been staring at these books for enough hours now that you're not sure you care.
>Deciding to leave things as they are, you take a last glance at the assembled titles to commit them to memory, then depart the library in search of lunch.

>Food is not immediately forthcoming when you poke your nose back into the sunlight, but tracking down the dining hall presents no real difficulties for a Seeker of your caliber - you can read the campus map at least as well as the next guy, after all. The trip takes you to a long rectangular building nestled near the other edge of campus, opposite a loose quadrangle of smaller buildings pressed closely together - dormatories, you think. From the center of the dining hall's front rises the small clock tower you first spotted on your way into campus yesterday, its columed brick surface contrasting tastefully with the facade beneath it.
>Sadly, the venue offers little more substantive for you to taste. While the front doors yield to your entrance without complaint, the long rows of wooden tables you find within the hall stand completely empty save for a few blue-smocked cleaning staff. The vaulted space smells gently of fresh lemon, and beneath that rye and savory and spiced chicken with potatoes and something akin to that pepperzest you tried yesterday - the echoes of a meal you've missed by just over an hour, so it seems. The lady you speak with is highly apologetic of this fact, almost as though she expected you might starve away to nothing through her inability to feed you, but with the kitchen shut down and the leftovers cleaned away, there's little she can offer you.

>In the end, you find yourself at that pasta restaurant you passed earlier, after all. It's not actually as expensive as you'd feared, though you restrict yourself to the more frugal end on the menu; but as this includes macaroni and cheese, you don't come away feeling too hard done by.

>Appetite sated and 'only' 6 guilders poorer for it, you make your way back onto the street. Where will you go now?

Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #488 on: April 20, 2013, 06:44:59 AM »
>Funds remaining.
>Time of day.

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« Reply #489 on: April 20, 2013, 07:04:09 AM »
>Funds remaining.
>Time of day.

>You have 328 and a half guilders.
>It is around 3:30.

Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #490 on: April 20, 2013, 04:50:41 PM »
If it's all the same to your folks, I'll use an insight point now.

>Seeker's Insight: What would be our best approach to locate this Yuuka, her garden, or her potential source of water?

At least I think that's phrased as well as could be to gain maximum effect, but feel free to noodle with it if you think it could be better.

Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #491 on: April 21, 2013, 03:24:52 AM »
>Seeker's Insight: What would be our best approach to locate this Yuuka, her garden, or her potential source of water?

>Given the number of open questions about your quarry and its location, and your own inability to predict the future, 'best' is beyond your ability to venture here. Vacuously, you suppose the 'best' scenario involves the next person you speak with presenting detailed instructions on the exact route to Yuka's garden, but given how unlikely this seems, you should probably restrict yourself to more plausible courses of investigation. Of these, you can see several approaches that stand a non-trivial chance of finding what you seek, but none seem to come with any guarantees and your time is... limited.

>If you were to trek into the wilderness in search of Yuka's garden with only the information you currently possess, finding it would not be impossible, but could require a substantial number of days searching; it is difficult to predict how many, but more than a week would not be at all implausible and any accurate estimate depends on many unknowns: whether geographical clues will present themselves from a distance, whether the garden is deliberately concealed rather than simply remote, and (perhaps most of all) whether the garden itself radiates some kind of magic you could detect from a distance. If it did, the time needed to search for it would be shortened considerably, but it's hard to guess whether this would be the case or not. Otherwise, there seem to be three broad avenues of approach to finding the garden: finding specific information on its location from some source who knows it, eliminating as many parts of the wilderness as possible which could not contain it, and increasing your ability to detect it from a distance.

>Your efforts on the first front haven't been very successful so far, but it's possible you haven't been looking in the right places. Rumors of the garden's existence reached Professor Bosqueverde from somewhere and Dai - the only other person you've met with concrete knowledge of it - seems unlikely to have been the sole source of it. Probably if word of it has reached Val Razua at all, then the matter would be better-known in Isir's Cross itself; in all likelihood, this is where the rumors would have started. Perhaps some hunter once stumbled upon the garden while in search of game; the texts you read in the library did mention in passing that some sporadic hunting was done in the region. Any first-hand accounts you could get from such a person would be far more reliable than anything the fairies might have to say - assuming, of course, that they're even still alive. Though perhaps even the fairies there could have some value, even if you'd hate to have to stake your life on someone who might just lead you on a wild goose chase (intentionally or not).

>But even if no one in Isir's Cross could tell you where the garden is located, they could almost certainly narrow down the list of candidates; the wilderness may not be frequented, but people definitely set foot in it from time to time. In fact, Riza might have been some help on that front, if she'd been willing to supply a detailed list of the areas she'd covered during her time down there. It might help to keep a map where you can circle off regions not worth searching immediately; every place you can establish has been seen recently is one less place to have to look - unless the garden is cloaked magically in a way that's effective as close range, and then all bets are off. Dai or even some of the other fairies might be useful in this regard if they can establish the kind of geography that surrounds the garden, or what kind of geography does not; the maps you've seen are sketchy that far out, but something may still better than nothing. Dai also mentioned that her sisters avoid the area where the garden is located, so if you can establish the areas they normally roam to some degree, that might also shave off large chunks of terrain.

>As for detecting it remotely, it is an open question whether your dowsing will find anything to work with until you test it against the garden in question, and Professor Morrigan said that conventional scrying couldn't normally find something with such a nonspecific location from so far a distance, at least without an anchor or focus. But that doesn't mean that some approach in this field mightn't prove useful. While a long shot, if it were somehow possible to obtain an object connected to Yuka without finding the garden itself, someone skilled in scrying might be able to use this to get a fix on its location. Maybe one of the adventurous fairies brought something back with them? Of course, even assuming they did and haven't since lost or eaten it, that would require a trip to Isir's Cross and back which would itself take a couple days. This might still be quicker than canvasing the wilderness by hand nevertheless. Finding such an item without leaving Val Razua would be excellent, but the odds seem poor and you have no idea where to start.

>Of course, a more plausible route might involve bringing some kind of diviner with you; assuming your dowsing would be ineffective against this target, there are still many other kinds of skills that might - perhaps some youkai with an affinity for plants that could detect those whose presence was out of place for the region, or someone able to sense the presence of youkai themselves from long-range, or a half-dozen other things that might be associated with this garden. Even Professor Morrigan implied that her own magic could be effective in this task if the region in question wasn't several day's journey away from the city. If you could convince someone with suitable skills to accompany you on this expedition - and you might even have enough cash on hand to entice them - they might be able to cut your search time to a fraction of what it would be otherwise. And you suppose there's still that apparently unpleasant magician with the tower outside of town who Professor Morrigan suggested might have an outside chance of being able to scry for the garden even at this kind of range. Though the professor also left you with the distinct impression it would be difficult to convince her to help you and that money would not assist at all in this endeavor, but who knows?

>Really, all of these are gambles of one sort or another, and the ultimate thing you are gambling here is time; you don't know how much you have to spend or how much each of these plans will cost, or how likely any of them are to work. But staying here in Val Razua until you have exhausted every possible information source is almost certainly worse than heading out with a vague direction and a prayer; one may leave a slim chance of success, but the other seems doomed to fail. So the question is... how much do you gamble, and where?

>You have two insight points remaining.

Re: (Skyseas of Gensokyo) Nazrin Quest (Part 12)
« Reply #492 on: April 21, 2013, 08:01:50 PM »
>When we were looking at the maps earlier, did we see anything that might qualify as an isolated source of fresh water? An out of the way pond or river or something like that?
>In our wanderings, have we passed by any locations that offered 'diviners for hire' or such?

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« Reply #493 on: April 21, 2013, 08:13:45 PM »
>When we were looking at the maps earlier, did we see anything that might qualify as an isolated source of fresh water? An out of the way pond or river or something like that?
>In our wanderings, have we passed by any locations that offered 'diviners for hire' or such?

>Aside from the lake south of Isir's Cross, where Dai's village was located, there were a pair of rivers that meandered off into the west. There was no indication of a larger body of water they eventually reached, but detail at the westernmost extent of the region was sparse at best.
>You have not.

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« Reply #494 on: April 21, 2013, 08:47:47 PM »
Need to refresh my memory on some things.

>From what Minoriko told us, about how much time to we think we have left on the death clock?
>How does one get to Isir's Cross from Val Razua, and how much time does it take?
>We know where Dai's village is, yes?

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« Reply #495 on: April 21, 2013, 10:14:04 PM »
>From what Minoriko told us, about how much time to we think we have left on the death clock?
>How does one get to Isir's Cross from Val Razua, and how much time does it take?
>We know where Dai's village is, yes?

>She didn't give you specifics, and you gathered that she couldn't, but you were left with the distinct impression that she expected no more than a couple of weeks. Of these, one week has now passed.
>There is a road south, as well as a river serviced by ferries; the latter is the more commonly used, you think, and probably faster. You think you could get there in just under two days.
>Yes. It is on the other side of the lake a short distance southwest of Isir's Cross.

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« Reply #496 on: April 22, 2013, 12:32:47 AM »
>Assuming we had something that we knew belonged to Yuuka, could we employ our dousing skills to find her that way ourselves?

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« Reply #497 on: April 22, 2013, 02:12:08 AM »
>Assuming we had something that we knew belonged to Yuuka, could we employ our dousing skills to find her that way ourselves?

>No. Dowsing operates based on the physical properties of an object, not any sort of abstract concepts as ownership or sympathy. If you could expect Yuka to be carrying a similar object as one you acquired, you might be able to use your familiarity with its resonances to discern its twin from a distance, but the mere fact that it once belonged to her wouldn't actually help.

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« Reply #498 on: April 22, 2013, 03:24:08 AM »
>Are we aware of a place here in town to acquire a map?

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« Reply #499 on: April 22, 2013, 03:37:47 AM »
>Are we aware of a place here in town to acquire a map?

>Not off-hand, but you're sure you could find such a place.

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« Reply #500 on: April 22, 2013, 04:02:56 AM »
>Return to the library, and ask the receptionist about the availability of books pertaining to water sources and how they'd been used by local motes of civilization over the past fifty years.
>Or would that be impractical?

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« Reply #501 on: April 22, 2013, 04:40:50 AM »
>Return to the library, and ask the receptionist about the availability of books pertaining to water sources and how they'd been used by local motes of civilization over the past fifty years.
>Or would that be impractical?

>While you have no doubt that the library contains writings on agricultural and irrigation practices, both domestic and foreign, historic and contemporary, you are rather more dubious that this would be of help to you; if writings on the general history of the region didn't turn up much activity at all over the last decades, you doubt something even more narrow will.

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« Reply #502 on: April 22, 2013, 07:19:33 AM »
>Well, let's return to the library receptionist anyway.
>And when we get there, ask "Is *insert Shuuei's last name here if we got it*-san in?"

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« Reply #503 on: April 22, 2013, 07:24:43 AM »
>Well, let's return to the library receptionist anyway.
>And when we get there, ask "Is *insert Shuuei's last name here if we got it*-san in?"

>You decide to return to the library nonetheless.
>You did get her last name from Dai - Nozomikage, you believe? You inquire after her presence at the front desk.

>"I'm sorry, but she's in a meeting right now," the woman replies. "If you'd like, you can leave a message for her."

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« Reply #504 on: April 22, 2013, 07:28:32 AM »
>"Any idea how long she'll be?"

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« Reply #505 on: April 22, 2013, 07:43:36 AM »
>"Any idea how long she'll be?"

>The woman gives you an apologetic look. "I'm afraid I'm not certain. At least an hour or two."

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« Reply #506 on: April 22, 2013, 07:48:05 AM »
Well.

Cock.

Now what?

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« Reply #507 on: April 22, 2013, 08:51:14 AM »
I try something else, that's what.

>Using what our insight revealed to us moments ago, what sort of information do we think we could find in the library here to improve our chances of narrowing our search for Yuuka? If anything.

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« Reply #508 on: April 22, 2013, 09:26:57 AM »
>Using what our insight revealed to us moments ago, what sort of information do we think we could find in the library here to improve our chances of narrowing our search for Yuuka? If anything.

>You've already been giving it a pretty good shot, examining as much of the geohistorical record as you can find pertaining to the region - not that there seems to be a lot - and texts that might mention more unusual botanical phenomenon. Certainly you have not covered all the writings the library has that could be relevant and more time in the same vein still stands at least some chance of turning something up. Possibly you could also examine texts covering magical methods that might assist your search, but in this you forsee a few problems: the material stands a better chance than you'd publically admit to being over your head, the really good stuff also stands a reasonable chance of being restricted in some manner (as certain classes of practical magical tomes seem to be), and probably you wouldn't be able to perform whatever it was describing in the first place. Maybe it could give you some ideas to draw upon, but probably it's better to consult an expert in this domain if you need to - you don't have the greatest leeway to educate yourself at the moment.

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« Reply #509 on: April 23, 2013, 07:25:57 AM »
Wait a second. I've had a thought that could help use douse for the garden when we get there.

>What do we know that we can detect with our dousing powers that is also commonly used in gardening? Minerals, materials, that sort of thing.