WARNING: INCOMING GAME
WARNING: INCOMING GAMEFurienify: Is truly bizarre. I see
this back-and-forth (if it can be called that) with Zakeri and it screams clueless town to me. But then he's
the opening vote on the real Zent case by correctly identifying bad logic and even
following up properly. And then we go
back to clueless. Takes him forever to vote on Day 2, stark contrast to the Day 1 behavior. Lots of defensive posts coming up here, lack of vote for a very long time and it comes with a panicked unvote almost immediately after. Currently has no vote down and doesn't appear to be planning any new cases. What is up with this? Man I don't know. He's done plenty to make me want to give him a small newbie pass but he's also done enough to show that he isn't. The thought has crossed my mind - repeatedly - that he was fed the Zent case from a scumbuddy, but I can't figure out why one would have done that given the vote count at the time instead of just letting him wander around on his own, making newbie mistakes. Just because I can't figure out why it would happen doesn't mean it doesn't still smack of buddycoaching, though. Willing to fakevote this case, though I think there are better options. Speaking of!
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NeoSerela: Zakvote is blatant bandwagon, sticking out especially because of how weak the entire train was (outside of myself imo but obviously I'm going to think this). Gets prompted to explain proper and responds, not by providing real reasons, but by going into something about how Zakeri and I were possible buddies that ends in no actual conclusion but a bunch of waffling instead (with a little bit of hypocrisy thrown in at the end when he accuses Zakeri of not providing reasons when he himself had not provided reasons for his Zakvote when asked). Keeps getting asked for reasons and keeps not providing them. Finally provides reasons
here, which are almost entirely founded in WIFOM and gets Zakeri's vote target wrong (Zak switched to Roukan after this post!). Ugh.
Actually huh what makes the case pretty nicely
here. Cool beans.
Day 2 Chaore vote is based on Early Day 1 antics and "assume scum -> find evidence", both of which are bad for reasons that should be obvious. Attacking Chaore for sticking to his guns is silly, players SHOULD be keeping their votes on whoever they think is the most scummy regardless of other cases that might be popping up. Chaore's defense proper of this case is just a few posts down, go read it if you want to see the case taken to task in detail. Anyway. Unvotes Chaore, revotes nobody.
This post deserves special spotlighting because of this line:
it's better to vote the person I suspect most then do someone else purely to look better, right? The point is to catch scum.
This comes right after attacking Chaore for doing the same thing.
Then there comes the Zent mini-spat, which I can understand given how terrible Zent's vote is, but the whole train of thought that starts with "I'm starting to think Zent couldn't be scum just because of how badly he's playing" and ends with a vote for Zent is baffling. If you're thinking he's not scum, why are you voting for him? If you think he IS scum, why did you include that bit about thinking why he might not be scum? I guess Serela seems to realize this himself with the later unvote, but again not placing the vote elsewhere bothers me, and he even admits he doesn't think Zent is scum asfuoahfuodsahgiooa
Oh, there's the origin of
HITLER OF LURKERS. I remember telling myself, before I started this, that I would want to see whoever started that lynched for antagonistic alarmism. Glad to see it land here. Worthless chaff in the Extension post, chaff that is also hypocritical in light of the fact that Serela's vote currently sits on no one. If "we seriously need to pick someone", why aren't you picking anyone or really doing anyithng?
No newbie slack here, there are scummy mistakes left and right that shoot Serela straight to the top of my list. I'll even punctuate this feelings with this.
##Fakevote: NeoSerelaI will however pre-empt Kefit trying to sell his Rat/Serela scumpairing again because, assuming ScumSerela, this has all been just so bad that ScumRat would have been much better served throwing Serela under the bus (and ScumRat would have realized this) instead of trying to deflect attention away from him.
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Zentillion: Quick note before I begin: I'm starting in Day 2 because I believe I've discussed Zent's Day 1 enough already.
Now then. Even after picking through all the melodramatics, I can't find a real reason for his Chaore vote. Gets called on it, unvotes, revotes no one. Sadface. Serela vote is blatant bandwagon, he doesn't even bother substantiating it. Even admits it's a blatant bandwagonhop in his next post! Man I hope Zent is actually scum-that-knows-what-he's-doing and is just milking the newbie card for all it is worth because that would be the most awesome thing ever and I would be totally willing to lose to it. Hems and haws over the idea of moving his vote off of Serela, but eventually shifts over to Alice for two reasons that are actually good despite being mostly stolen fom other people! and two reasons that are not reasons ("many people suspect this person" does not imply "this person is scum" and making that jump is more blatant bandwagoning). The unvote-revote of Alice is I don't even know what the hell.
I am actually incredibly not sold on this guy being scum. *facenuke*-inducing, yes, but...Serela's just
so bad and Alice isn't looking too hot either and those have been the two votes he's actually stuck to today and I can't imagine they're all scum. I'm having a terrible time verbally justifying why I don't think he's the best candidate for a lynch, he just...isn't for me. I don't think I could decently object if that is how the winds decide to blow, though.
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My thoughts have been moving Kefit "down" my personal list insofaras they keep moving a bunch of other people up. Still not happy with him, though, especially not for buying into the
HITLER OF LURKERS shenanigans. I honestly forget of Rat or anyone else pointed this out, but here's how I saw that whole unfolding: Rat casts a vote for a lurker whose sparse content failed to inspire, while calling out another lurker or two for similar reasons, time passes, said lurkers still do not show up, Rat gets frustrated and starts trying to get people to look at them more. I can understand this perfectly, I always feel this way as town when my cases go ignored and the people they're on don't show up (doubly so if lurking is one of my charges against them).
Current death preference list probably looks something like this Serela > K4U > Kefit/Alice > Furienify ><><==<><<><=>>=<?? Zentillion. Not sure if I want to attach Chaore to this list, he
really rankles me with calling Rat on attitude despite being one of the game's most abrasive players (as well as for generally being one of the game's most abrasive players), but the Extension vote with zilch content looks slightly less bad in light of the fact that he HAD posted something decent about 16 hours prior. Would probably require yet another reread focused on him to solidly place him on my list. Wish I knew where he's gone, though, >24 hours of no content is >24 hours of no content and complete lack of presence doesn't work given he showed up to make the Extention vote.
