Started by rereading CF7. Going to stand by my original point that if he were mafia, then he would have made some sort of claim before disappearing at the end of the day; given the playerlist any buddy would have coached him to do the same. His willingness to be lynched given his supposed antitown role looks genuine enough that I don't think it's coming from mafia making a last ditch gambit (which would be a terrible gambit anyway). At worst he's SK who gave up (jumping to the conclusion that Raikaria is SK instead of scum, initial defensiveness with the Raikaria vote, general weirness) but he's not group scum at least imo so not really interested in him. People who still want to lynch CF7 tomorrow should respond to why they think this is invalid.
Dormio is a bit harder. The thing that stuck out the most to me about Dormio was actually his response to me when I asked him what I thought about Raikaria's claim, which was "Read the claim, but I don't really know what to make of it," which is a terrible response since it was a provable claim and at least partially confirmed by Raikaria giving me nighttalk. But it doesn't really make sense for him to say that as scum though when he can easily answer my query with "I don't believe it because I think he's scum" or something to that effect and sound more "logical" and "convinced of his case". The other thing that stuck out to me upon reread was the huge walls on Serela and CF7 that come down to "null" and "not that interesting," respectively. But again, what's the point of posting a huge wall that doesn't come to a conclusion if you've already put out an extensive case on someone? It only draws negative attention to you and it comes down to a lot of work for nothing in terms of cred. I looked through some meta of town Dormio and scum Dormio on the Raikaria case, and Dormio putting this much effort into his cases is probably town Dormio (
this game vs
example one,
example two,
example three)
Look at his play in Imp Mafia and NHK Mafia (his most recent scum games) where all he did was hard bus his buddies and when he made cases they were short and pretty barebones.
(stuff like this) The difference is pretty stark. So yeah, I think Dormio is probably town, too.
NNR is also kinda tricky. The running updates don't do anything for me (seriously people shouldn't post like that) but I think the early Prims vote
here is probably coming from a frustrated town!NNR especially given the context with Prims pushing NNR. Compare that to
his reaction in DEFCON Mafia. It's mostly his tone; it's more fluid (not sure if this is the right word?) when he's town and the anger at Prims feels less manufactured (in the scumpost I linked, he sounds more annoyed at huhwhat's attitude than seriously considering the idea of scum!what as in the first post I linked). This is kinda a minor point, but aside from that I also have a general feeling about NNR and he looks decently town imo. I think I've had a decent track record reading him recently anyways.
Next post is the more interesting stuff.
