Author Topic: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Thread 1 (Locked)  (Read 76392 times)

Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #420 on: October 22, 2013, 10:43:34 PM »
also Shadoweh is getting a vote to the face when D2 starts if she can't tell me who she thinks is scum and why >:c DID YOU EVER EVEN POST REASONS RAIKARIA WAS SCUM UNTIL POST-CLAIM I MEAN REALLY
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #421 on: October 22, 2013, 10:45:17 PM »
The reason why Dan voted Mitsuki is because Mitsuki jumped into the QT thinking she was scum. Role PMs were given past our usual bedtime here and she saw a QT and a vaguely worded wincon that could go both ways and she just assumed she was scum.
Thankfully if you think about it a little, it doesn't really make sense for a scum + neighbor to run headfirst into the wrong QT and post assuming scum. This is probably the reason why Dan rules out scum but not ITP.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #422 on: October 22, 2013, 10:50:20 PM »
>__________________________________________________>

Thankfully if you think about it a little, it doesn't really make sense for a scum + neighbor to run headfirst into the wrong QT and post assuming scum. This is probably the reason why Dan rules out scum but not ITP.
Mafia isn't a game that makes logical sense, and in any case it's happened before. Shadoweh knows the game I'm talking about.

Kinda wish Mitsuki was here so I could ask her why she thought she was scum just because she was given a neighbor QT but welp.


also serela is lame for not reading my posts


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Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #423 on: October 22, 2013, 10:52:01 PM »
looooooooooooooooooool

Also Conq I'll go reread your posts in a little bit then ;_; I admit I kind of skimmed them
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #424 on: October 22, 2013, 10:54:24 PM »
okay yeah i just rechecked my role pm to see if px colored  it and i dont see how the hell she could have missed the green in the opening line.
it's possible  if she's scum she posted in the wrong qt. i've seen scum post in the game thread stuff they were trying to send to the mod or post in the mafia chat.


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Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #425 on: October 22, 2013, 10:54:51 PM »
oh there was a big question that I avoided on purpose the first time you said it

I've been being lazy about figuring out who I think is scum because d2 hasn't actually started yet `________________` Instead I'm just making sure everyone is at least doing a half-decent job to make sure there's no super easy scum hanging out to get lynchmurdered

Shadoweh sure is kind of working her way onto that category though, wow!
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Conqueror

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #426 on: October 22, 2013, 10:55:06 PM »
dan why the hell did you unvote that


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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #427 on: October 22, 2013, 10:55:30 PM »
okay yeah i just rechecked my role pm to see if px colored  it and i dont see how the hell she could have missed the green in the opening line.
it's possible  if she's scum she posted in the wrong qt. i've seen scum post in the game thread stuff they were trying to send to the mod or post in the mafia chat.

She greeted me as if I were her scum buddy.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #428 on: October 22, 2013, 10:56:25 PM »
yeah rofl I was just going to yell at you because there's green in the pm

one does not miss the green in the pm

Dormio does :V
« Last Edit: October 22, 2013, 11:53:24 PM by PX »

Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #429 on: October 22, 2013, 10:56:56 PM »
She greeted me as if I were her scum buddy.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #430 on: October 22, 2013, 10:57:42 PM »
so d2 is a vhaltz lynched followed by an explanation how a vhaltz lynch didn't happen on d1

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #431 on: October 22, 2013, 10:58:34 PM »
Okay sure echo chamber further by abusing overly specific examples to shoot down arguments that run against your bias Conq.

Let me say this: Mitsuki posted the "yay I'm scum that's cool" post in the 8th post or so in the QT. At this point Dan and the other guy in the QT had already posted and it was impossible for her to have noticed that they weren't the scumbuddies that the PM said she had, had she rolled scum.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #432 on: October 22, 2013, 10:58:55 PM »
dan why the hell did you unvote that

Because of what Vhaltz said sorta? atm I'm playing dota and skimming all these new and interesting developments for you guys

the green in the pm was why I was very uncertain as to that argument but I'm willing to overlook it since I don't think the slot is on the scum team

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #433 on: October 22, 2013, 10:59:28 PM »
Song: Sun's Jealousy

As everybody prepared themselves for the next episode, they heard a cry coming from the kitchen. They immediately ran towards it, fearing another murder had happened. However, it was just Haruka on the floor, massaging her butt.

"Owww, I fell again ehehe. My bad."

Everybody breathed a sigh of relief as Haruka got up. She turned around and took a step forward...

...Only to trip again, this time down a staircase that lead outside the mansion. As everybody watched, they saw Haruka tumble down to the beach and continue tumbling down a staircase that went pass the ocean surface. Nobody understood why there was a staircase to the bottom of the ocean, or where it went afterwards.

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Welcome BT to The iDOLM@STER Mafia! You are Haruka Amami, the Center of 765 Pro. You are an idol under 765 Productions.

Abilities:
Her Evil Majesty Harustein - "Fear me, cower - worship me!" Unknown to everyone else, you are actually Harustein, Evil Genius. However, your power is not yet complete. You must gain power by sentencing people to death (hammer).
I Want - "Kneel before me!" After sentencing three people to death, you transcend to Harustein. With your full power, you gain the one time ability to kill anyone by posting "Worship me, [Target]" in the thread. Once you reveal your true self and have everybody worshiping you, you achieve a solo victory (game still continues).

You win when all opposing factions are dead, or nothing can prevent the same.

You can post and vote in the thread during episodes while alive. Confirm by posting in thread.

BT has died during the Commercial Break! Episode 2 begins!

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« Last Edit: October 22, 2013, 11:04:03 PM by PX »

Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #434 on: October 22, 2013, 11:01:01 PM »
I'unno it'd be a pretty bad mistake to not even realize "oh wait this person isn't on my list of scumbuddies" as you talk to them in your QT

I mean it's one thing to mispost and another to specifically refer to the neighbors as scumbuddies when that's the wrong set of people

It's maybe not a clear on Mitsukislot, but it's definitely not an autolynch >_>

Hey PX do the scum get told in their RolePM who their buddies are?

No comment

out-of-context this is a fairly innocent question, so

Cut by BT exploding, that is really the only NK I could have seen happening so along with business as usual
« Last Edit: October 22, 2013, 11:06:08 PM by PX »
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Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #435 on: October 22, 2013, 11:01:17 PM »
oh right ##Vote Shadoweh WHO ARE THE SCUM AND WHY COME ON
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #436 on: October 22, 2013, 11:01:23 PM »
rofl.  ok.  p sure everyone in the QT is town

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #437 on: October 22, 2013, 11:01:34 PM »
Mitsuki was half asleep, she has made plenty of other visible mistakes in the game thread because she wasn't paying enough attention, what makes you think she isn't just clumsy and wanted to think she rolled scum because she was looking forward to playing scum?

If you guys want me to claim now I'll claim because I gotta go to bed soon.

Conqueror

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #438 on: October 22, 2013, 11:03:30 PM »
huh so i guess bt was the third party?

vhaltz: ~_~ I'm just sorta  :derp: :derp: :derp: :derp: about this whole thing.

on the one hand yeah misreading who your scumbuddies are is pretty NEXT LEVEL PLAY
on the other hand if she was super excited about wanting to be scum she could have momentarily misread it, so

im going to largely say this is null and look at the rest of the posting


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #439 on: October 22, 2013, 11:04:03 PM »
Oh wait BT was a third party kind-of-SK-but-not-really capable of a special neutral win? Well then!
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Conqueror

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2, The Mystery Continues!
« Reply #440 on: October 22, 2013, 11:05:37 PM »
dan looks a little better but i still want reads from him

##vote: zakeri

i wanna start here actually


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Conqueror

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2, The Mystery Continues!
« Reply #441 on: October 22, 2013, 11:08:24 PM »
like i dont think zakeri posts like serela naturally, or if he does it's not this blatant. at the end of the day all he has is cf7 scum and raikaria null which is pretty bad


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Conqueror

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #442 on: October 22, 2013, 11:10:26 PM »
Okay sure echo chamber further by abusing overly specific examples to shoot down arguments that run against your bias Conq.

okay no i wanted to say this first.

if you're going to use overly specific anecdotes to explain why you're town, im going to use overly specific examples to say why your defense is bullshit.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Commercial Break #1!
« Reply #443 on: October 22, 2013, 11:20:44 PM »
I think this was just an issue of me knowing Mitsuki for 1+ year and you guys having only played one or two games with her. All of these things that probably seem like very unbelievable when added up are just something that I assume is normal to happen to her.

okay no i wanted to say this first.

if you're going to use overly specific anecdotes to explain why you're town, im going to use overly specific examples to say why your defense is bullshit.

That post was me starting to think you were scum trying to bullshit through everything to go through with the lynch you had set yourself up for, but honestly I think as scum you would've lagged a little bit in noticing that I couldn't have been the ITP wincon anymore with the BT flip since you were so overeager to lynch me. Meaning you would've skipped reading cuts at this point to continue pushing it instead of actually reading what was happening.

It was really stupid for me to bring up the point about Mitsuki derping in the QT though. I'm never doing anything like that again regardless of alignment.

I'd say something else about the other players but at this point all I can think of is that this was a really fucking stupid idea and that I'm lucky that specifically BT had the ITP win.

Conqueror

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2, The Mystery Continues!
« Reply #444 on: October 22, 2013, 11:27:20 PM »
you're assuming i was voting you because i thought you were ITP, which isn't completely true :v i was about 50/50 on it.

in any case let's brush all that to the side. who do you think is scum now?


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Conqueror

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2, The Mystery Continues!
« Reply #445 on: October 22, 2013, 11:29:22 PM »
*pushing, not voting, but etc


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Shadoweh

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2, The Mystery Continues!
« Reply #446 on: October 22, 2013, 11:35:39 PM »
You know, BT wasn't an ITP, he was a townie with an alternate win condition. It's possible there's more then one town that has one.
I'm busy right now but all I can say is what? Multiple neighbour qt shenanigans, the last time I was in a QT and one of the members asked if we were scum partners, she was actually scum. >_>


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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2, The Mystery Continues!
« Reply #447 on: October 23, 2013, 12:22:57 AM »
I still kinda gut Shadoweh scum but it's not something I have that much confidence in. I'm not even sure if I'd lynch her over Zak at this point even considering that all that would be driving me to his lynch would be meta (didn't lurk hard last games he was town in, posted shorter and more contentful posts rather than less contentful... well not really, but less readable long ones if I had to describe them somehow) and that the flip makes me pretty sure the other two who are short on content are either town or really ballsy gambitting scum. This last thing is a QT thing, dunno if I should go in-depth about it, I'll just let Dan do it if he thinks it should be public.

But over those two, and this is something I think you might yell at me for. I think NNR is likely scum, yeah even though I said he was town earlier and even though you pointed out how several of my townreads could be easily switchable. His two posts that refrence/reply to my townread were supposed to sound depressed, but they read really, really fake (first post made me scratch my head, second one with the "lost conviction oh dear what do" raised my alarms). I've thought this ever since he posted the last one but I was under heavy scrutiny so I figured I'd maybe claim when D2 started and post a full case tomorrow when I had time for it. Now I'm just skipping sleep to deliver and I'm saying all this undoublechecked.

Other reasons why he's probably scum is he promised to re-read Validon but never did so and went passive mode in his latest post. I know I've also promised rereads that haven't gotten there yet but I just recently replaced in, was on the spotlight for lynch candidacy to worry about more urgently and I'm not being passive about not having solid scumreads. Everybody who I did manage to get a decently read ISO out of just ended up reading town or null. There's also how I think everyone else on the doctor wagon was town except maybe Shadoweh, but I could see myself being wrong about Shadoweh a lot earlier that I could see myself being wrong about NNR.

I'm spending a lot of time to try and make this a backed up solid case but that's all that came out, posts by NNR that contain scumhunting are rare considering the number of posts to content ratio, he's normally bad at finding scum accurately and has not-so-good cases but here it feels like he's actively avoiding scumhunting with all of the mechanics discussion (that everybody can engage with regardless of alignment) and the fake depression leading to demotivation and passiveness.

I'm still pretty confident in my other townreads that I think the scumteam is likely NNR/Zak/Last scum. I also initially thought this game would have the ITP or one mafia in our QT because having a 4-man neighbor QT without scum in it is odd, but the flip makes me think this game has no ITP and just has one or several town with independent winning conditions that potentially cripple town to make life easier for the scums. My other power (which should be obvious I have because I offered fullclaiming) points towards there being at least one more town with a independent wincon but it's really just speculation and could be wrong. Either way if anybody else calls for help on fulfilling power conditions from now on I would not comply.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 1!
« Reply #448 on: October 23, 2013, 12:26:16 AM »
sorry it was to fulfill my conditional power I swear!

Also the government was shut down for like 3 weeks, it's just they barely avoided going bankrupt and failing to pay other countries their bills

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Serela

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Mafia Episode 2, The Mystery Continues!
« Reply #449 on: October 23, 2013, 12:34:34 AM »
hi dan thanks for announcing it to the entire world I'm going to shoot you tomorrow :C (I'm sure the scum had probably forgotten/not cared! ...maybe)

More seriously, the thread was caught up on "OH MAN HE'S BEING WEIRD TO FULFILL HIS CONDITIONAL POWERS MAN" at the time so I made a silly joke in response to someone else's silly joke about ants and screaming.

Also oh yeah Shadoweh's right, since BT's win condition was worded differently I just assumed ITP but AFAI-can-tell he was town at the same time, but, anyway. SHADOWEH YOU STILL AREN'T TELLING ME WHO IS SCUM AND WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO DO

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