Author Topic: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure  (Read 54172 times)

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2011, 02:39:57 AM »
>Dishonesty is not inherently wrong. It is the cause that matters, and here, it would be for a good cause.

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2011, 02:47:39 AM »
Actually, it was established earlier that dishonesty pretty much is an inherent wrong for the enlightened. We're supposed to find the high road every time.
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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2011, 04:36:36 AM »
I disagree, and I don't remember when that was established.

>What is Bhava-Agra's stance on lying? especially as it might apply to the current situation?

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2011, 01:06:53 PM »
> Keep the smile up.
> "You know, Tenshi does not enjoy it very much when I hug her, either."

>"That comparison sounds kind of vulgar," says the poltergeist.

>"Speaking of Tenshi, she asked me earlier if she should spread rumors about you. You know, to get people thinking about you. I told her not to do so for nom, but that I would ask you about it."
>"Now, I know this idea may not appeal to you if the rumors were accurate, but what if the rumors were false? If they were false, what would your answer to Tenshi be?"

>She frowns. "That also sounds vulgar. Um, what would she say?"

>Are we sure we should be encouraging a fellow celestial to be dishonest? Particularly one we are taking care of?

>It really isn't a good idea.

>Dishonesty is not inherently wrong. It is the cause that matters, and here, it would be for a good cause.

>You're quite well aware that dishonesty is contrary to enlightenment.

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2011, 03:31:55 PM »
> "Assuming it would be done at all, it would depend on what you want spread."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2011, 03:35:00 PM »
> "Assuming it would be done at all, it would depend on what you want spread."

>"Mmm," she says. "I don't know... is it a good idea?"

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2011, 06:38:32 PM »
>"I think so. It would get people thinking about you, and thus help you survive."

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« Reply #68 on: April 30, 2011, 06:42:50 PM »
>"I think so. It would get people thinking about you, and thus help you survive."

>She nods, though frowning. "Maybe, then..."

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #69 on: April 30, 2011, 06:44:52 PM »
>"Well, take some time to think about it if you need to."

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« Reply #70 on: April 30, 2011, 06:53:22 PM »
So you're just going to ignore dishonesty getting confirmed as counter to enlightenment again right there, then?
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #71 on: April 30, 2011, 07:02:09 PM »
>"Well, take some time to think about it if you need to."

>She nods. "I'll do that. What would I have her say, though?"

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #72 on: April 30, 2011, 07:13:37 PM »
> What would the Dragon think about us encouraging Tenshi to spread lies about the poltergeist?
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #73 on: April 30, 2011, 07:18:51 PM »
> What would the Dragon think about us encouraging Tenshi to spread lies about the poltergeist?

>You expect it would be quite frowned upon if you did so willfully and intentionally.

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #74 on: April 30, 2011, 07:31:47 PM »
So you're just going to ignore dishonesty getting confirmed as counter to enlightenment again right there, then?

If that's what the rule is, then whatever (although I still say this is a good reason to break it). For myself, though, I think that outlook is wrong.

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2011, 07:46:53 PM »
And that's understandable. I'm pretty sure we've all done things across the course of these quests that we disagreed with as people. (Hell, we had a big fight about one such thing not 500 posts into the game, as I recall.) However, the thing to keep in mind is that this is Iku Quest. We are playing a character that is going to know certain things and act certain ways, and not know certain other things and not act certain other ways. This quest was designed with Iku's strengths and weaknesses in mind, as was Maribel Quest before it, as was Utsuho Quest before that. It is meant to be played knowing the things Iku knows and behaving the way Iku is supposed to behave. It might as well be Omniscient Lightning-Throwing OC Quest if we starting using outside knowledge and controlling based on our behavioral preferences instead of Iku's.

There have been plenty of "easy" solutions so far. We could have beaten Tenshi into submission to make her behave, we could have left the poltergeist to rot on her own, we could have beaten Remilia into submission to take the islands back, and so on and so forth. The idea behind it being Iku Quest is that playing Iku means none of those things were intended to happen. It is for this same reason that we're not supposed to use spreading lies as a way of sustaining the poltergeist's existence.
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2011, 08:03:31 PM »
> "Again, that would be up to you. It would depend on what you would want people know about you. If anything."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #77 on: April 30, 2011, 08:06:38 PM »
> "Again, that would be up to you. It would depend on what you would want people know about you. If anything."

>She frowns and looks toward the ground. "I don't know," she says at length.

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« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2011, 08:14:17 PM »
> "Like I said, take some time to think about it. If you decide what you want spread, then we will go with it. If you decide you don't want anything spread, that is fine too."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #79 on: April 30, 2011, 08:15:36 PM »
> "Like I said, take some time to think about it. If you decide what you want spread, then we will go with it. If you decide you don't want anything spread, that is fine too."

>"I already know that I don't," she says. "What I don't know is whether I should regardless of that."

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #80 on: April 30, 2011, 08:26:26 PM »
> "Well, I suppose we can see how you hold up once you start your jeweling work. If you feel that you keep slipping, then...we probably should. But if that work keeps you sustained, we may not need to."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #81 on: April 30, 2011, 08:47:50 PM »
> "Well, I suppose we can see how you hold up once you start your jeweling work. If you feel that you keep slipping, then...we probably should. But if that work keeps you sustained, we may not need to."

>She nods.

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #82 on: April 30, 2011, 09:18:23 PM »
> "Regardless, I shall see you again in a few hours, I suppose."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #83 on: April 30, 2011, 09:21:03 PM »
> "Regardless, I shall see you again in a few hours, I suppose."

>"Alright, I'll be around here," says the poltergeist.

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« Reply #84 on: April 30, 2011, 09:22:24 PM »
> "Here? Or near the house with the junk?"
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #85 on: April 30, 2011, 09:24:29 PM »
> "Here? Or near the house with the junk?"

>"This place," she says. "Unless you want to meet me there, I suppose."

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Re: Iku Quest Che'tyrnadsat: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #86 on: April 30, 2011, 09:29:35 PM »
> "That is where I will be meeting the journalist woman again later, and where her batch of newspapers will be, if you are still interested in making those deliveries."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #87 on: April 30, 2011, 09:31:30 PM »
> "That is where I will be meeting the journalist woman again later, and where her batch of newspapers will be, if you are still interested in making those deliveries."

>"I'll be there," says the poltergeist.

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« Reply #88 on: April 30, 2011, 09:39:11 PM »
> Nod.
> "Thank you. I appreciate it. See you there, then."
> Assuming no objection from Shuuei, take flight and head to Youkai Mountain.
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #89 on: April 30, 2011, 09:56:16 PM »
>"I will," she says, as you depart.
>You fly toward Youkai Mountain. The flight is is a clear one, with no more annoyance than hearing some faeries in the air squabble over some little thing involving cinnamon. As you draw closer to the mountain, you can see that Guest Island has lifted from its side, and is hovering a few dozen feet in the air over the southern slope. A few tengu patrols are in the air that you can see, but markedly fewer than the day before.

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