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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #120 on: December 07, 2009, 06:54:42 AM »
Oh hey, someone no-missed Daifukkatsu Hibachi's last attack :V

I'm gonna pace around and grumble about my outstanding lack of skill now.

hahahahaha he had to use a hyper what a nub

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« Reply #121 on: December 07, 2009, 07:00:46 AM »
He makes it look easy. :D

Also, the ships and their options in Dai Fukkatsu look so cool. :V

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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #122 on: December 07, 2009, 06:19:07 PM »
Oh hey, someone no-missed Daifukkatsu Hibachi's last attack :V
It does come together if you consider it's the same guy who demolished Mushi Ultra and counterstopped Futari.
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« Reply #123 on: December 07, 2009, 08:19:32 PM »
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« Reply #124 on: December 08, 2009, 12:53:54 AM »
Fuck. The English version of the Higurashi VN is set to be released on the 15th, which is the date, one week before the end of my finals, that I planned to put an order in for a J360 and Futari.

Why does the world want to make me spend more money? More importantly, how am I supposed to balance Higurashi and Futari? D:

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« Reply #125 on: December 08, 2009, 01:18:29 AM »
Getting my copy Wednesday or Thursday, itll be shipping.

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« Reply #126 on: December 08, 2009, 02:53:16 AM »
Fuck. The English version of the Higurashi VN is set to be released on the 15th, which is the date, one week before the end of my finals, that I planned to put an order in for a J360 and Futari.

Why does the world want to make me spend more money? More importantly, how am I supposed to balance Higurashi and Futari? D:

I'm asking the same question. With Comiket ahead I know a good chunk of my paycheck is going to that and I'll end up so broke... :V I was about to order Mushi and another game but had to postpone it all. For the price of Mushi alone I could get like 5-8 doujin thingies (let it be music, games or just random manga).

I've started replaying Exception now that I have the disc and found out it's also a music CD. The latest patches increased difficulty a bit. It's a pity that the guy (i-saint) seems to be stopping development or something like that (evil Google translate). I just hope I'm wrong and he's working on something, I want more surreal cubes in Cubeland (c).

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« Reply #127 on: December 08, 2009, 03:07:04 AM »
I'm asking the same question. With Comiket ahead I know a good chunk of my paycheck is going to that and I'll end up so broke... :V I was about to order Mushi and another game but had to postpone it all. For the price of Mushi alone I could get like 5-8 doujin thingies (let it be music, games or just random manga).

I've started replaying Exception now that I have the disc and found out it's also a music CD. The latest patches increased difficulty a bit. It's a pity that the guy (i-saint) seems to be stopping development or something like that (evil Google translate). I just hope I'm wrong and he's working on something, I want more surreal cubes in Cubeland (c).

I hope C77 won't be as lackluster as the previous Touhouket Comiket. I haven't had the time to sit down and figure out what's being released yet. Know of anything interesting (e.g., Crimzon Clover)?

EDIT: Cave announces a Dai Fukkatsu Black Label location test. :V
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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #128 on: December 08, 2009, 03:25:48 AM »
Nope. The guy didn't sign for it but he might release a trial for January, which might destroy anything that is released during Comiket...

Samidare is getting a nice re-release. eXceed 3rd JADE PENETRATE Black Package (this title is so wrong at so many levels!) in the Super Loli Vampire with annoying voices is also (finally) being released but it was a so-so game...

Alternative Sphere seems to be one of the most promising. A huge step up from the previous game.

Crisis/Divider will have a trial, same deal with Alltynex 2nd (as usual), RefRain (but they seem to keep screwing this poor game, it's quite buggy) and not much else. Maybe a demo of Trouble Witches 2 and the typical Artseneit randomness?

The usual cataract of Touhou fangames. Not much else on the shooter side.

It's the music (dozens of Toehoe piano/orchestral and original albums) and trying to find some older game releases at cheaper prices what will break my wallet.

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« Reply #129 on: December 08, 2009, 03:44:20 AM »
Nope. The guy didn't sign for it but he might release a trial for January, which might destroy anything that is released during Comiket...

Samidare is getting a nice re-release. eXceed 3rd JADE PENETRATE Black Package (this title is so wrong at so many levels!) in the Super Loli Vampire with annoying voices is also (finally) being released but it was a so-so game...

Alternative Sphere seems to be one of the most promising. A huge step up from the previous game.

Crisis/Divider will have a trial, same deal with Alltynex 2nd (as usual), RefRain (but they seem to keep screwing this poor game, it's quite buggy) and not much else. Maybe a demo of Trouble Witches 2 and the typical Artseneit randomness?

The usual cataract of Touhou fangames. Not much else on the shooter side.

It's the music (dozens of Toehoe piano/orchestral and original albums) and trying to find some older game releases at cheaper prices what will break my wallet.

The Samidare re-release caught my eye. I wasn't aware of it. Will the game have any new content added (stages, graphics, remix BGM, etc), or is it just that data book and soundtrack thing in your sig?

Can't say I'm excited about eXceed 3rd. I played through the C76 version and felt like falling asleep through the boss fights. Way too long. But the stages were fun and I enjoyed the music. Will probably give it a go and see what's new anyway.

Need to put some time into the Alternative Sphere demo and see what that game is about. My first impression of it felt like it was the next Hellsinker in complexity (which surely can't be possible).

Crisis/Divider--good. Love Nekomimi no Kakera stuff.

Alltynex 2nd and Refrain stuck in demo hell. What else is new. :V

..And on the non shooter front, I just found out that Freudenstachel has been delayed again. Shit. D:

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« Reply #130 on: December 08, 2009, 04:11:26 AM »
On the topic of Samidare, has there been any news on Refrain, that new game that Rebrank was working on?  There was a new trial version at C76 with 4+ stages, so I wonder if they've almost completed it (I got massive slowdown when I tried running it though).

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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #131 on: December 08, 2009, 09:39:10 AM »
How dare you bash eXceed!
Seriously though, the boss fights are too long? huh? They aren't half as long as some of the longer Touhou boss fights. I mean if you don't like the game I wont argue with you but that reasoning just sounds suspect to me since I could have sworn I thought you said you like the bosses in Touhou, which feature some that are longer. Granted the Stage 1 and 2 boss fights in eXceed aren't any shorter than the later ones.

As for Comiket, what's a good (english) place to research what's coming exactly? Last year I knew what was coming by word of mouth on these forums and such, but I really haven't heard anybody say much this time, so I'm kinda in the dark.

My copy of Mushi was shipped this morning at like 8am. Got to Alaska (which is right next door to my province pretty much) at noonish... Now it's at Memphis Tennesee. I mean, wtf. It flew right past me, and further from me than it was to begin with! Silly Courier service!

Still no Canadians with a copy of Mushi yet? I'm eager to know the duty cost. I've got to budget for Christmas gifts as well as comiket.

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« Reply #132 on: December 08, 2009, 11:02:46 AM »
How dare you bash eXceed!
Seriously though, the boss fights are too long? huh? They aren't half as long as some of the longer Touhou boss fights. I mean if you don't like the game I wont argue with you but that reasoning just sounds suspect to me since I could have sworn I thought you said you like the bosses in Touhou, which feature some that are longer. Granted the Stage 1 and 2 boss fights in eXceed aren't any shorter than the later ones.

I think you're thinking of Matsuri, who feels that the boss fights in Touhou are more exciting than the stages. :P What I have mainly said about Touhou is that the scoring systems and stage design should be more varied so that each new Touhou game doesn't feel like a new coat of paint over the previous, which is how I feel about it right now (kind of in a Touhou slump).

But yeah, as far as eXceed 3rd is concerned, it felt like each boss phase had too much HP and lasted too long as a result. This might have made the fights feel longer than they really were. Touhou solves this by dividing the boss fights into shorter non-spellcard and spellcard phases, so that you usually don't end up facing the same patterns for too long.

But then again, I'm talking from memory here, so I might be way off-base.

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As for Comiket, what's a good (english) place to research what's coming exactly? Last year I knew what was coming by word of mouth on these forums and such, but I really haven't heard anybody say much this time, so I'm kinda in the dark.

I don't know of any English doujin news "hub". If there was one, I'd be surprised if I didn't know about it by now. There is a French one called "Doujinsuki," which you might want to look at. Finally, a use for highschool French. :V

Sources like these aren't totally comprehensive, though. The best way would probably be to grab a rip of the CD-ROM version of the Comiket Catalogue and sift through it yourself (I hope I'm not crossing the line by saying that).

It's still pretty early though, and I haven't seen much (any, rather) hype around C77 building yet. More people should be talking about C77 as it nears.

What I do, is I keep a list of doujin circles that I like, and check them in early-August and -December to see if they have anything planned. Beyond that, I rely on word-of-mouth, and strict monitoring of what gets released for about a week or two after the event.

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Still no Canadians with a copy of Mushi yet? I'm eager to know the duty cost. I've got to budget for Christmas gifts as well as comiket.

Right now, I think it's just GST and PST based on the value of the item in Canadian dollars, plus any courier brokerage fees. Later on in our Province, probably only HST plus fees. Goods marked as gifts under C$60 are exempt; if the gift is over C$60, you pay taxes and fees based on the difference. All goods under C$20 are exempt. I'm not sure if these exemptions apply to just to the taxes, or to the courier fees as well.

That's what I gather. Take my word with a grain of salt, though.

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« Reply #133 on: December 08, 2009, 12:39:33 PM »
I think the problem with eXceed 3rd isn't the boss length but the incredibly annoying voices coupled with some repetitive patterns (ZUN isn't the epitome of creativity but his patterns can be a sight to behold) and pointless slowdown (edit: I put download, wtf I was thinking?).

Alternative Sphere does indeed seem to try to be the Hellsinker of the series but the scoring mechanics aren't as deep. You have the tension meter (activated by the use of the loli-twin and such), the bomb/life duality, the F-crystals, point items, Rank system (the more point items you pick, the more it goes up) and end of the stage bonuses.

On the other hand, Hellsinker is a crazy, massive behemoth with hidden bosses (SPIRIT KERNEL PEW PEW), hidden attack patterns (FATE CONTROL: TERRA+++), multiple routes inside the segment (5, Shrine of Farewell), alternate segments, segments that turn into mazes, go downwards, have maps, a Stella meter to control rank, bonuses when you max out lives (Immortality), another four counters (coin counter, a terra counter, spirit counter, chain counter), like 5 firing modes per character (and having 8 different weapon systems), multiple final bosses, bosses that have a pletora of different patterns, two extra stages and a whole pot of surrealism, craziness... and the Shrine of Farewell.

We can only hope Ruminant's Whimper is working to top this one.

About Comiket, other non shooter stuff will be a vastly improved and updated trial of the VN I'm working in, by the japanese circle ZeroZigen. It's called Koenchu Yonogi Seiyuu Story and it's, indeed about seiyuu and references all over the place.
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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #134 on: December 08, 2009, 08:32:58 PM »
eXceed attack patterns individually lasting longer than Touhou (or other game) attack patterns is true, I'll give you that. I also think you've played shooter games more than me, and have a higher level of play. I know eXceed on hard is fun but possible (albeit hard) for me. For you, yeah it's probably about as fun as playing Touhou on normal in slow motion.

As for the annoying voices. I actually find they are some of the best of their kind. To me, annoying voice is Palm in mushi. I mean I just wanna tear my ears out before the speech before Larsa, but I already know my own sense of taste in the human voice is weird (I think vocals in most Touhou music is annoying myself, unlike pretty much everyone else).

eXceed's bullet patterns being long is actually a good point though. That could be why they didn't release it in C76 like originally planned, maybe the release version will change that. The actual length of the battles though are good IMO, if anything, a liiitle bit longer would be good just so you can enjoy the full tracks of the music. It's music is just too damn good to not hear. I just about fell outta my chair when I learned that eXceed 3rd's music is written by the same guy who wrote some of my fave Touhou remixes (SSH's Remilia and Kaguya themes in particular are absolutely godlike)

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« Reply #135 on: December 08, 2009, 09:01:40 PM »
Oh, musically it's awesome. That's something I forgot to mention. And, yes, I think that was why the C76 version was pretty much scrapped/ignored.

And we still don't know how the final thing will be. Perhaps it is meant to be played at the highest difficulty setting? (I can't remember if there was a selectable difficulty though) I know some games are pretty much thought this way.

Ah, the voices issues is just a personal thing I guess. And, actually, I think the worst I heard so far were on either Arcanum Echo (where the character would say something each time you swing the sword) or Trouble Witches. I think it's just the super loud/high-pitched tone what drives me insane. :V

Been playing Banshiryuu. I can't remember if it was here but someone mentioned the older versions were far better? The game disc comes with the two previous ones. Should I try those?

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« Reply #136 on: December 08, 2009, 10:17:26 PM »
Been playing Banshiryuu. I can't remember if it was here but someone mentioned the older versions were far better? The game disc comes with the two previous ones. Should I try those?

That was probably me.  I thought that the latest version was absolutely horrible for the longest while, but after playing it more I don't think it's nearly bad as I made it out to be.  I'm still not a big fan of the bomb mechanics and a lot of the bullet patterns though.

The C67 version is basically a completely different game.  It has some weak points (stage 3, some parts of the final stage), and it doesn't have quite the visual flair that C74 has, but it's definitely worth checking out.  The bombing system isn't nearly as anal as in C74, which I definitely approve of, and the Hirano fight in stage 4A is probably one of the best bosses in any Seihou game.

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« Reply #137 on: December 08, 2009, 11:25:32 PM »
I decided to put some achievements of a good game on my brother's account :V

Ended up 1cc'ing Novice Original on my first try, without dying once. It's pretty much impossible to die.

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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #138 on: December 09, 2009, 12:05:30 AM »
Holy yokai jesus. My mushi package came today while I was out at the doc's (figures). But still. I only ordered saturday night. Play asia is prob closed on sunday, my package only got shipped yesterday. It came in less than 24 hours from @#%ing hong kong! I've ordered parcels from Seattle before (which is 1 major city south of me), and those take months!

The slip says duty is $19.95. not bad for a $104 item!

eeek, Imma pick it up today in an hour, eek!

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« Reply #139 on: December 09, 2009, 12:06:33 AM »
Holy yokai jesus. My mushi package came today while I was out at the doc's (figures). But still. I only ordered saturday night. Play asia is prob closed on sunday, my package only got shipped yesterday. It came in less than 24 hours from @#%ing hong kong! I've ordered parcels from Seattle before (which is 1 major city south of me), and those take months!

The slip says duty is $19.95. not bad for a $104 item!

eeek, Imma pick it up today in an hour, eek!

What shipping method did you select from Play-Asia, if I may ask?

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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #140 on: December 09, 2009, 12:09:07 AM »
What shipping method did you select from Play-Asia, if I may ask?

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« Reply #141 on: December 09, 2009, 02:19:14 AM »
HUZZAH! My new computer arrived just yesterday... and I had to spend all of yesterday night getting my internet connection up. (Stupid vista) Loving the 18.5in wide screen too.

Now, on topic: I've just started playing Dodonpachi with C-L.... can anyone guess what I think of it?

Btw, controls still suck. 
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« Reply #142 on: December 09, 2009, 02:30:03 AM »
On the topic of Samidare, has there been any news on Refrain, that new game that Rebrank was working on?  There was a new trial version at C76 with 4+ stages, so I wonder if they've almost completed it (I got massive slowdown when I tried running it though).
Whoa, they released a demo on C76? There are only Youtube videos for C75's, so I didn't know.

And uh, did they fix the OP bombs? Well, from what I could tell from the vids they were OP.

Oh, and to answer, no, but I'm off the research now. =3

Edit: Also, the stage 2 midboss' first attack looks like Nue's midboss attacks, or rather, Nue's looks like the stage 2 midboss'.
actually, it looks like Yuugi's laser attacks but with bullet streams.

Rebrank is releasing a Samidare Archive for C77 apparently. Databook + Soundtrack + Game, in a nice case. Looks nice.

There's going to be a C77 Demo for Refrain too.
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Re: Revenge of Shooter Games Thread
« Reply #143 on: December 09, 2009, 03:15:21 AM »
EEEK! I got my copy of mushi!
I'm not concerned since everywhere seems to confirm it's not a Japanese lockout game. But I notice on the back of the case in the bottom right hand corner it says:

For Japan only
Made in singapore. What's that about? Is that just some standard box-print that they didn't bother changing since their new lockout policy? I assume everyone's case says that? Anyway, EEK! >=P

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« Reply #144 on: December 09, 2009, 04:14:43 AM »
Chill out, jeez. Even my Limited Edition copy says 'For Japan Only, Made in Singapore'.

Trust me, it works fine.

The only real difference between the Standard Edition and the Limited Edition is the inclusion of the Double Arrange Album, and it comes in a larger, decorative box. The cover art is different and Reco is on the disc instead of Palm.

Yours may or may not have come with the ver. 1.01 DLC card. I haven't used mine yet, but I'm told the only differences are subtle and somewhat cumbersome.
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« Reply #145 on: December 09, 2009, 04:24:28 AM »
Chill out, jeez. Even my Limited Edition copy says 'For Japan Only, Made in Singapore'.

Trust me, it works fine.

The only real difference between the Standard Edition and the Limited Edition is the inclusion of the Double Arrange Album, and it comes in a larger, decorative box. The cover art is different and Reco is on the disc instead of Palm.

Yours may or may not have come with the ver. 1.01 DLC card. I haven't used mine yet, but I'm told the only differences are subtle and somewhat cumbersome.

No, I refuse to chill! >=P. I'm excited I got it, not about the Japan only thingie, as I said I'm not really concerned, I find it more likely that they just auto-stamp that on all cave games pretty much and didn't really bother not doing so with this one.


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« Reply #146 on: December 09, 2009, 12:59:17 PM »
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« Reply #147 on: December 09, 2009, 08:52:55 PM »
In mushihimesama, how can I re-enable both shot types at the same time in arrange? It stops working every time I switch characters

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« Reply #148 on: December 09, 2009, 09:04:38 PM »
I don't particularly remember, I'm afraid. :x

Perhaps it has to do with the characters' individual counters or if you're holding C and A at the same time. I'm really not sure.

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« Reply #149 on: December 10, 2009, 08:21:33 PM »
How do I use the v1.01 card that came with mushihimesama?
I heard I have to make a japanese account too or something.


I'm new to xbox and have NO CLUE how dlc works.