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Re: League of Legends Thread 10 - Threads...threads are truly outrageous.
« Reply #870 on: May 06, 2013, 06:55:13 PM »
Wards are ranged so try to place the ward at max range and then run back asap. You can also place them over walls, so many spots can be warded without any danger.
I recently started to work on this to avoid going right up to the edge of bushes/etc, I also hear that you can click on some barriers and cheezeball ward the other side while not moving there.  As you can guess, this backfires when I do it 90% of the time and I waltz over to my death when I walk all the way around.  Maybe a custom game where I just buy ALL THE WARDS and test the spots?

I have a bad habit of being blown apart when warding as Sona. I stopped playing Sona.
I can't do that I'm better at support than anything else  :ohdear:

my strategy to avoid this; play as taric. (also I now realise I have ~80% win rate as taric)

and yeah, you should actually push the lane a little bit to ward river bushes safely.
and if you can't  ward the river the friendly tribush should be warded.
and you should be begging your team for help already.
...except Taric I was dismal at Taric last time I tried, but that was like 2-3 months ago so maybe worth another look next time he's free?
Also yeah I guess I gotta start yelling at my team YO BABYSIT ME OR YOU GET NO WARDS more than I do in yoloqueue.



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« Reply #871 on: May 06, 2013, 07:19:26 PM »
Here's a list of some over the wall wards + pictures

You can also build the super fast boots to let you drive by ward every brush no problem

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« Reply #872 on: May 06, 2013, 07:39:26 PM »
How about doing a quick Q+E (at least I think E is the speed boost) right before you ward? I dunno if it works or not cuz I don't know Sona's Q range, but if it does it'll help you run away as folks expect to jump on the support just about the moment they ward, not before. But otherwise it's always best if you have backup and/or know the enemy is unlikely to be in that bush.

Usually in the laning phase as bot team, unless enemy jungler has a short CD+cost jump, you can get away with warding in front of dragon instead. That gives you vision of both dragon and their jungle entrance. Unless the jungler comes from down the lane or teleport directly into the bush, you'll see him coming and know when he leaves. Try to also get vision of the entrance to your tribush as well. Then, refresh the ward just before it expires, so you can sacrifice a few secs of duration for the knowledge that nobody's there when you ward.
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« Reply #873 on: May 06, 2013, 07:42:54 PM »
I have pretty clear memories of me pressing Q and not thinking anyone was in that bush only to run into 5 happy people with pointed sticks.

Not sure myself if Q requires sight to hit people in bushes or it didn't at some point and riot changed it.
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« Reply #874 on: May 06, 2013, 07:47:04 PM »
Lulu's my go to.  Usually I'll glitterlance (which doesn't give vision if thrown into a bush, I think it gives a sound if it hits? but I'm not astute enough to catch it if it does) and zoomzoom out of there if possible, unless I get murdered and then welp :V

I've started pushing my river ward higher and higher, used to just pop it in that low river bush so it is around dragon to catch that ramp but sometimes yeah I'll get caught out by the jungler or I find the mid laner waltzing down 5 paces above me.  Is this where I need to ask for jungle/ADC escort or just hope for the best?

I never think of refreshing wards before they end, usually it's WHOOPS NO WARD BETTER FIX THAT and then oh hai gank, so that's something I can work on.

Also Suikama YAY WARD MAPS super useful since I know I bungle that up and can use that to cut down on the murdering of me and increase the murdering of the other team.

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« Reply #875 on: May 06, 2013, 08:22:42 PM »
Lulu's my go to.  Usually I'll glitterlance (which doesn't give vision if thrown into a bush, I think it gives a sound if it hits? but I'm not astute enough to catch it if it does) and zoomzoom out of there if possible, unless I get murdered and then welp :V
Support rumble does have his upsides, you can clearly hear E hit, and you still have the second shot and W to run away if you do get unlucky.
Not to mention just facechecking with flamespitter on.

lux E is godly for safety checks as well.

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« Reply #876 on: May 06, 2013, 08:24:55 PM »
I have pretty clear memories of me pressing Q and not thinking anyone was in that bush only to run into 5 happy people with pointed sticks.

Not sure myself if Q requires sight to hit people in bushes or it didn't at some point and riot changed it.

There is a slight chime if Glitterlance hits someone, vision or not.


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« Reply #877 on: May 06, 2013, 08:34:55 PM »
There is a slight chime if Glitterlance hits someone, vision or not.
The line you were quoting was in reference to Sona though.
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« Reply #878 on: May 06, 2013, 09:21:00 PM »
ooo Lux!  I totally forgot about her as a support!

Also TYVM for the mobility boots suggestion.  Speedshoes + Shurelia's + Whimsy = 2FAST2FURIOUS

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« Reply #879 on: May 06, 2013, 09:41:15 PM »
Don't forget Homeguard

Best ability in the entire game


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« Reply #880 on: May 06, 2013, 09:43:57 PM »
ROCKET BEAR

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« Reply #881 on: May 06, 2013, 09:45:55 PM »
The line you were quoting was in reference to Sona though.

Wait what the topic was Lulu. My mind is full of exams.

Also, only the Wolves return.



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« Reply #882 on: May 06, 2013, 10:13:11 PM »
Wait what the topic was Lulu. My mind is full of exams.

Also, only the Wolves return.

I wish Samurai in Jeans made it in, if only because I like their name.

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« Reply #883 on: May 06, 2013, 10:26:12 PM »
Just noticed the new sale. Looks like my wallet is safe. For now...

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« Reply #884 on: May 06, 2013, 10:58:35 PM »
Thresh hasn't been on sale yet has he

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« Reply #885 on: May 07, 2013, 05:20:37 AM »
If the PBE changes to Akali get applied to patch 3.7, I am going to start playing League again. I mean, wall jumping on akali by abusing shroud vision is going to be so hilarious, and the number of jukes I can do with it is going to be awesome. And CD rollbacks on Essence of shadow is a nice bonus too, which means the time I have before I start playing agressive post-6 is going to be shorter by around 10 seconds (since I usually wait for 2 charges)

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« Reply #886 on: May 07, 2013, 11:20:40 AM »
I really don't wanna have to relive FOTM Akali again. Sustain and ranged harass, ontop of 3 gap closer, with one of the most annoying escape abilities, energy, and more snowball capability than leblanc, katrina, and fizz combined.

Buffs should never be tossed her way.

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« Reply #887 on: May 07, 2013, 12:48:14 PM »
> Wins game
> 4 LP

Wat. I'm used to low gains because lol MMR but that's half what I should be getting...

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« Reply #888 on: May 07, 2013, 01:32:34 PM »
Sona's Q does require sight to hit.

Bushes have screwed up too many chases for me not to know this.


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« Reply #889 on: May 07, 2013, 01:50:20 PM »
Got bored. Made silly graph while looking at stats



I'm not kidding on Lissandra either. Syndra was garbage on release, Elise was underpowered on release, and now it seems Lissandra is too. Oh, and Re-Released Karma.

Hell, look back from Syndra and we have Diana [Far too strong] and Zyra [FAR FAR TOO STRONG]. Apparently Riot is incapable of making a balanced AP midlaner these days.

I just realsed how few AP Mids have been released since I joined ._.

Also Lee Sin's winrate and pick rate are funny. I never see him at Gold/High Silver level and he's not used on streams... so... uh... Bronzes? Made doubly funny since Lee Sin is difficult to play so Bronze players would probobly perform the worst with him.
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« Reply #890 on: May 07, 2013, 03:43:24 PM »
Permabanned champions are often locked in by people who can't play them and the banned status makes them very hard to practice as.
I love malph but never get to play him enough to practice. He's very hard to get back into the game if you fall behind; or if you have a poor team, who let your perfect 5 man ult go to waste by just sitting there and then complain that you fed.
Similar to rumble, the all in play style means your team will take you for a terrible feeder, even if you're actually keeping up and making good plays.

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« Reply #891 on: May 07, 2013, 03:57:02 PM »
Permabanned champions are often locked in by people who can't play them and the banned status makes them very hard to practice as.
I love malph but never get to play him enough to practice. He's very hard to get back into the game if you fall behind; or if you have a poor team, who let your perfect 5 man ult go to waste by just sitting there and then complain that you fed.
Similar to rumble, the all in play style means your team will take you for a terrible feeder, even if you're actually keeping up and making good plays.

The Alistar Effect in effect.

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Apparently Riot is incapable of making a balanced AP midlaner these days.

They do it on purpose. Riot likes to release champs weak and then buff em and then nerf them, then rework them,  then buff them, then nerf them.
Balance is more of a moving target than a fixed set of numbers. Sometimes a strong champ gets by like Zac, but its not the case for most new releases in that first patch before any tweeks are made.
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« Reply #892 on: May 07, 2013, 04:37:55 PM »
You're the first person I see that claims that Riot makes a release champion weak on purpose then buff/nerf/rework/relaunch/whatever.

The rest are "Release OP, Nerf the following patch."

And I almost agreed on it, until they made Release Rengar go from unplayable bad to stupid good to ridiculously bad to okay. Similar stuff happened to Diana, I know it, I main Diana.

I really doubt riot does it on purpose, they really look to make a champion balanced above everything else.

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« Reply #893 on: May 07, 2013, 06:41:53 PM »
Rengar's entire life cycle has been a mess no doubt.

But ye I'm sure they mean to aim to balance, but that just ends up into being on the weaker side.
Whether in mechanics or raw numbers is the question though.

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« Reply #894 on: May 07, 2013, 08:06:52 PM »
Honestly, given what I've seen over my year of playing. Riot either buffs a champion so that they can feel cool or leaves it alone, and then releases it. It is then balanced accordingly.

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« Reply #895 on: May 08, 2013, 12:31:50 AM »
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« Reply #896 on: May 08, 2013, 01:00:02 AM »
Guys, apparently when I play adc I can't get any kills unless someone's peeling, and I always start out like 1/7/2 then hit like 15/10/15 by the end of the game everytiem and I keep getting wrecked by Trist and Cait bot
How do I improve my adc play early game

It's like I keep being out of position and end up either wasting too much time trying to harass or missing opportunities to kill the enemy botlane :S
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« Reply #897 on: May 08, 2013, 01:18:49 AM »
How do I improve my adc play early game
play miss fortune :V

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« Reply #898 on: May 08, 2013, 01:23:54 AM »
Play Caitlyn, league of legends' best adc player NA.

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« Reply #899 on: May 08, 2013, 02:48:23 PM »
Play vayne, you'll learn how to adc the hard way.