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After a long reread and some rethinking, the person I'm finding the most likely to be scum right now is Zakeri. You left your vote on Alice when it looked like you would pursue Serp; I don't see why given the reasons you put forward, why you felt an Alice prod was still more prudent than being firm about Serpentarius. Then in #72:
Serp Seems to think so. And I at least checked to see if Alice was lurking before voting for him.
Here, you even admit that Alice's Lurking is not a scumtell. Basically, the only point you're holding Against Alice Effectively is that you believe Alice came on, saw the vote against Me, thought it was serious even though you're the only one who did think it could be serious, and choose not to post, risking being called out on not taking part of the RVS so that you would be less likely to call her out on ignoring Days So's random vote.
What is this I don't even?
These 2 in the same post look hypocritical to me. You prod/vote Alice for lurking and then fault Serp for what is essentially Serp's belief that Alice was lurking.
Your #99, #104, and #114 is pretty heavy commentating and very little scumhunting. During all this, you actually say very little about Tenshi's innocence or guilt despite going off about people coaching him. In #114:
This. Seriously. This is actually part of my reasoning for voting for Serp - The fact that he seems to think he can get away with voting for anyone just by acting like he thinks it's the best possible vote he can make under the circumstances.
I never got the impression Serp thought like how you said above. And everyone who votes usually thinks it's the best possible vote they can make under the circumstances. I don't get what you're trying to insinuate with the above statement. You then unvote Serp in #124... what for? Because you're going to generate cases on other people? I don't see Serp's case being lessened with anything in that period unless you count Serp unvoting Alice and voting Tenshi. There's more discussion that's not really scumhunting before you get onto points about Nietz and Carthrat. And frankly, it's mostly summary and your main point isn't much: Nietz isn't providing opinions. How did that overshadow your suspicions on Serp, to the point that you don't mention Serp at all before Tenshi's flip and afterwards going into Day 2?
Neitz:
Wait, you are seriously saying I should've made stuff up just because it was "excusable"? I guess that would be fine if I was scum, but not if I'm trying to actually assess the cases properly.
Except how are we suppose to tell if you're assessing cases properly if all you say is "Null Tell" In regards to a single case for two posts? Especially considering you didn't even comment on the other case that was happening at the same time until after it had been resolved!
I don't recall any case being resolved... what got resolved Zakeri? I find this statement, or at least the spirit of this statement, to be pretty bad. Bandwagons do not necessarily fail because the case died, sometimes they slow down because other cases pick up. Looks like you're trying to set him up.
Summary: Your pressing on Serp is highly inconsistent with your vote pattern and some of your arguments and the unvote and switch to Nietz feels really unnatural. There's a long discussion about Tenshi, but has more to do with what to do about those coaching Tenshi rather than talk about whether he's Scum or not. It was surprisingly continuous to the point of it being a distraction as it did nothing to influence the actual case on Tenshi as if it was a foregone conclusion. I feel it's just Scum talking about nothing and not really pursuing anything of worth. And your ignoring Serp from the end of Day 1 going into Day 2 is sticking out.
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Onwards to other cases. Regarding Alice: I noticed you vote Jan-san in #71 for the standard reasons. But what I think stands out to me the most is your #87 when you question what Tenshi was doing
and make no comment about Jan-san's post above yours including his unvote. For someone who was unhappy about Jan-san, you are suddenly quite single-minded in your pursuit of Tenshi. That single-mindedness gives me the impression of scummy intent, that you're just itching to vote Tenshi, but also don't want to jump on too quickly. And to reiterate my point from before, you justify your vote saying "nobody is this scummy, but I remembered about ras255" is rather selective thinking. But we were wrong about Nuclear Fusion last game and we're wrong about Tenshi this game. Your evidence there is faulty. I think you were trying too hard to look ok while voting Tenshi so I find your vote on his bandwagon the most telling. And then at the end, you just state you're going to go after Jan-san again. See below about why I'm wary of that.
I can fault Jan-san for all the reasons everyone else is doing, but you know what, I'm not feeling it's the right lynch. The waffling is anti-Townie, but the one theme he's been consistent on is he thought Tenshi was Townie. If you're saying he's been bandwagon hopping, he actually has not been on the one bandwagon we know to be incorrect so far. The Serpentarius vote is kinda bad, but by examining his reason, I'm seeing Jan-san as someone not sure of stuff, but not changing his story to make himself look more or less Townie. His actions might look scummy, but I'm not sensing the intent. In other words, he feels honest and trying not to be a distraction which is a good sign to me. Obviously, he does need to be more firm with his cases, but if I feel he maintains this vibe I have of him, I'm not going to vote him.
Suwako and Affinity are both interesting for being bystanders to both Tenshi and Serp. In other words, I don't have a read on them which is troubling and I feel they need to be vetted more. Affinity does seem to comment a bit more about Tenshi though and his case on Xan in #109 is original yet not bad. Suwako, however is really reserved and defers most of his opinions to what people before him said once the Tenshi bandwagon got going. This can't continue. Also on reread, I didn't necessarily like his case on Roukan on a point that didn't look like it would go far and the case on Nietz feels a little half hearted for some reason.
I'm not sure how to judge Rou; he would have been pretty high on my suspicion list if Tenshi flipped Scum, but now he's kinda neutral. Xan and Serp are also feeling neutral and I'd like to see their Day 2 cases to re-evaluate both of them. Xan's lack of one is meh, but I'm not feeling it is effective scumhunting to just directly target the ones that don't have a case. It's a lazy way of Scumhunting, and in some cases, too easy for Scum to misdirect the Townies into a mislynch. Xan is not at the threshold yet of being explicitly scummy for his own actions imo.
Nietz never really committed to a firm opinion on Serp, but there is an actual opinion there even if it's borderline on the fence. And given how I've sorta lowered my priority on Serp, I'm willing to let him pass on that as the ambiguity Nietz had is sorta understandable. But mainly, I like his hunches on Zakeri in #103 and #135 for pretty much the main reasons in the above case on Zakeri. So I disagree about him not contributing at least. And his point on Alice in #152 is interesting. Because Alice claims Nietz can't hold a clear and concise opinion which is incorrect because he had one on Tenshi. So I think his suspicion on Alice has some foundation. His not actually bringing the case on Zakeri or Alice first with a vote at the start of Day 2 is a little troublesome, but he technically had those thoughts before me. Could be Nietz bussing, but if I had to pick between Zakeri and Nietz, I'm voting Zakeri.
Zakeri and Alice are my top two choices at the moment. Suwako and Xan I'm eyeing a bit more as well. Rou: if you think Nietz was not looking for new points about Tenshi, I would say Suwako is actually a worse offender who let others dictate the discussion about Tenshi.
##Vote ZakeriCut by Suwako: Can you point out where Nietz is arguing ScumTenshi would give Nietz Townie cred?