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Koog

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Similar Songs in Touhou
« on: May 20, 2014, 10:37:58 PM »
I've made this thread to identify the similar songs in Touhou.
I've found some similarity with Faint Dream and Gensokyo, Past and Present... why Yuuka's songs are too similar?
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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2014, 11:17:10 PM »
Not including remixes.... (Those probably don't count)


Vulnerable Battlefield, The Gods Give Us Blessed Rain, and both versions of Player's Score sound very similar (the eighth note section)

UN Owen, Heian Alien, Lonesome Werewolf similar (obvious)

Maple Wise and Legendary Illusion are similar in one section

Maple Wise and Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom have almost the same chord progression. You could mix those two together easily.

Cheat Against Impossible Danmaku and Alice in Wonderland have a similar melody

Alice Maestra and Nostalgia Blood of the East

Romantic Children and Nostalgia Blood of the East

Plastic Mind and Nostalgia Blood of the East
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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2014, 11:40:16 PM »
Gengetsu has a part in her song where it's basically the beginning of Stage 5 Yuuka's theme sped up.

IN's staff roll is basically a remix of PoDD staff roll.

IN stage 4, DDC stage 3,  Tsukumo Sister's theme, and many others have hints of Theme of Eastern Story in it.

The beginning of Nuclear Fusions is similar to Strawberry Crisis.

The soft melody in DDC stage 5 sounds a bit like Komachi's theme.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2014, 11:42:32 PM by Mino ☆ »

Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 01:01:00 AM »
Nuclear Fusion has parts of Venerable Ancient Battlefield hidden in it.
Maiden's Cappriccio (and Dream Battle) take directly from Magic Mirror.
Silk Road Alice is the first time that theme was used in an actual game, if I'm not mistaken. But I might be.
Hourai Illusion ~ Far East sounds like Gensokyo Millenium in it's intro.
Cheat Against Impossible Danmaku has the same first 7 or so notes as Satori Maiden ~3rd Eye, and has Demystify Feast towards the end.
My name is Tres. It sounds like "Tray". Tressert is "Tray-zurt"; like Tres dessert.
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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 01:10:36 AM »
Too lazy to put explanations, though I've bolded the ones I think are undeniably true, which are the more interesting ones anyway.

Blade of Banishment -> Now, until the moment you die
Blade of Banishment -> Broken Moon
Magic Mirror -> Complete Darkness
Magic Mirror -> The Legend of KAGE -> Maiden's Capriccio
Swordsman of a Distant Star -> Plastic Mind
Pure Land Mandala -> Oriental Dark Flight
Power of Darkness -> Forbidden Magic -> Reverse Ideology
Extra Love -> The Tank Girl's Dream (probably too blatant to be worth mentioning but whatever)
Phantasmagoria -> Mystic Oriental Love Consultation
Winds of Time -> A Dream Transcending Space-Time
Mystic Oriental Love Consultation -> Sailor of Time
A Dream Transcending Space-Time -> Little Princess
Dream War -> Locked Girl
Lotus Road -> Sleeping Terror
Lotus Road -> Inanimate Dream
Inanimate Dream -> Crystallized Silver
Plastic Mind -> Forbidden Magic (only a very small part)


Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2014, 07:42:55 PM »
The melody at the end of Seija's theme "Reverse Ideology" is similar (but not identical) to the main melody of the UFO extra stage theme "UFO Romance in the Night Sky" (which starts playing in the middle of the Kogasa midboss fight and continues for a couple of sections afterwards).

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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2014, 02:26:51 PM »
The most obvious similarity that I can name of the top of my head is the similarity between "U.N Owen Was Her" and "Heian Alien"; some parts are very much alike, to me at least.
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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2014, 02:40:04 PM »
I think parts of Ultimate Truth and Retribution for the Eternal Night sound rather similar.

I hear a bit of Gensokyo the Gods Loved in Faith is for the Transient People too. And I swear there's a bit of Because Princess Inada is Scolding Me in Native Faith.

Argue for and Against sounds sort of similar to Drunk as I Like to me too.

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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2014, 03:38:53 PM »
DDC's extra stage theme sounds like Rigid Paradise in my opinion.

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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2014, 05:47:46 PM »
Parts of Legend of Hourai from Dolls in Pseudo Paradise sound like History of the Moon.

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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2014, 06:57:28 PM »
There are two pre-battle themes in SWR/Hisotensoku that exactly the same, but I can't remember the names right now
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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2014, 07:21:40 PM »
There are two pre-battle themes in SWR/Hisotensoku that exactly the same, but I can't remember the names right now

A bit of listening on my iTunes, and three actually. Argue for and Against, Drunk as I Like and Swing a Fish to Drive Away Flies all sound almost identical.

Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2014, 08:18:42 PM »
A bit of listening on my iTunes, and three actually. Argue for and Against, Drunk as I Like and Swing a Fish to Drive Away Flies all sound almost identical.

Lol pretty much every non-battle song in the game uses that theme.
Spoiler:
Sky of Scarlet Perceptions- 55 seconds in
Usual Days
Argue For and Against
Beautiful Nature Sight
Swing a Fish to Drive Away Flies
Drunk as I Like
Free and Easy
Skies Above the Clouds- 15 seconds in
Flawless Clothing of the Celestials- 35 seconds in
Darkening Dusk
Eastern Sky of Scarlet Perceptions- 34 seconds in
The Ground is Yellow also uses a similar theme. On that note, Fragrant Plants and Dancing Water Spray are nearly identical, and both bear a strong resemblance a certain part of The Witch's Ball remix from IaMP. Whoever made the music for this game was really cutting corners.

Did You See That Shadow from Hisoutensoku also uses it, but no other song in the game does so I'd like to say it's just homage. Same goes for Morning Clouds from HM.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2014, 08:32:43 PM by TresserT »
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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2014, 08:30:00 PM »
Bad Apple (LLS St 3), Shanghai Alice of Meiji 17 (Meiling's theme) and Misty Lake (DDC St 1) all share a five note beginning in their melodies.

Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2014, 08:44:51 PM »
Lol pretty much every non-battle song in the game uses that theme.
Spoiler:
Sky of Scarlet Perceptions- 55 seconds in
Usual Days
Argue For and Against
Beautiful Nature Sight
Swing a Fish to Drive Away Flies
Drunk as I Like
Free and Easy
Skies Above the Clouds- 15 seconds in
Flawless Clothing of the Celestials- 35 seconds in
Darkening Dusk
Eastern Sky of Scarlet Perceptions- 34 seconds in

Huh, I didn't even notice until you pointed it out. Maybe it was less cutting corners, more that it was trying to pull a Super Mario World,  with all of the songs based off a single tune?

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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2014, 08:52:32 PM »
Bad Apple (LLS St 3), Shanghai Alice of Meiji 17 (Meiling's theme) and Misty Lake (DDC St 1) all share a five note beginning in their melodies.

You can also hear that five-note sequence twice just before the main theme of Mystic Oriental Dream ~ Ancient Temple (PCB Youmu's stage theme).

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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2014, 09:29:53 PM »
Lol pretty much every non-battle song in the game uses that theme.
Spoiler:
Sky of Scarlet Perceptions- 55 seconds in
Usual Days
Argue For and Against
Beautiful Nature Sight
Swing a Fish to Drive Away Flies
Drunk as I Like
Free and Easy
Skies Above the Clouds- 15 seconds in
Flawless Clothing of the Celestials- 35 seconds in
Darkening Dusk
Eastern Sky of Scarlet Perceptions- 34 seconds in
The Ground is Yellow also uses a similar theme. On that note, Fragrant Plants and Dancing Water Spray are nearly identical, and both bear a strong resemblance a certain part of The Witch's Ball remix from IaMP. Whoever made the music for this game was really cutting corners.
U2 Akiyama points out the reason for all the similair-sounding pre-battle themes.

Also interesting is how the two noted battle themes are at the exact tempo.

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Re: Similar Songs in Touhou
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2014, 10:36:19 AM »
Can't believe no one's mentioned the ending of Seiga's Old Yuanxian yet. It's pretty much Necrofantasia. Although it feels a little like ZUN troubled over how it should end, I feel like it works well anyway.
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