Maidens of the Kaleidoscope

~Beyond the Border~ => Daiyousei's Cold Storage => Topic started by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 05:53:01 AM

Title: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 05:53:01 AM
I have a more or less random topic I want to post, but I don't think it will take a very long OP post to introduce the topic. It should be long to be posted in Cirno's section, yet this same section seems to be the ONLY place for posting random stuff on the whole shrinemaiden site.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: E-Nazrin on November 06, 2010, 05:54:58 AM
For starters, this post itself could go in the talk thread or something rather than being a thread of its own.

Secondly, what sort of thread is it? If it's a game, then even if it's spammy it can go in Rumia's. Otherwise, you're gonna have to explain.

Again, preferably not in an extraneous topic :V
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 05:58:47 AM
I'm thinking about this thread.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html
Read my opening post. This is like really just completely random, but also is short. So I don't know where to put in on these forums.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Drake on November 06, 2010, 05:59:22 AM
I think you should make a new thread.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 06:00:44 AM
I'm thinking about this thread.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html
Read my opening post. This is like really just completely random, but also is short. So I don't know where to put in on these forums.
I'm thinking about this thread.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html
Read my opening post. This is like really just completely random, but also is short. So I don't know where to put in on these forums.
I'm thinking about this thread.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html
Read my opening post. This is like really just completely random, but also is short. So I don't know where to put in on these forums.
I'm thinking about this thread.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html
Read my opening post. This is like really just completely random, but also is short. So I don't know where to put in on these forums.
I'm thinking about this thread.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html
Read my opening post. This is like really just completely random, but also is short. So I don't know where to put in on these forums.

STILL MY QUESTION ISN'T ANSWERD! I need to know WHERE to post this very important (to me) but completely random topic!!!!!!
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on November 06, 2010, 06:02:06 AM
You shouldn't fucking post it anywhere because no one fucking cares.

If you absolutely must post it somewhere, then in the talking thread, not as its own thread.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:06:31 AM
VG? Reading? LOL

Don't worry folks, we're working on something very special.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on November 06, 2010, 06:10:09 AM
Don't worry folks, we're working on something very special.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh man, is it snowball challenge time? This sounds like snowball challenge time.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: JT on November 06, 2010, 06:12:09 AM
If you have something you want to talk about that's not substantial enough for its own thread, go here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7498.0.html).

You shouldn't fucking post it anywhere because no one fucking cares.
Harsh but true.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Rin Kagamine on November 06, 2010, 06:16:25 AM
Hey guys I got a new personal title.  It looks like my old one but with an extra "h" because h is the best letter.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: dustyjo on November 06, 2010, 06:19:00 AM
Hey guys I haven't changed my name yet, I thought I'd make a thread letting you know that.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Drake on November 06, 2010, 06:21:06 AM
I want to post a thread asking "Where can I post this?" but I don't know where I should post it. Help?
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Rin Kagamine on November 06, 2010, 06:22:00 AM
I want to post, how?
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Caber Knight Etch-A-Sketch on November 06, 2010, 06:24:49 AM
Video Gaemur...

-_- I think the topic would be best sent to the hapiness thread if it really makes you happy. Otherwise, as some guy once said,


STFU.

._. Sorry if this comes off as harsh, but I really don't think a new ava you got is worthy of a new thread.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: E-Nazrin on November 06, 2010, 06:24:59 AM
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/331/nazrincommunism.jpg)
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:25:15 AM
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6057/couragewolfforum1resize.jpg)
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Drake on November 06, 2010, 06:30:26 AM
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8312/getbannedfrommotkgetban.jpg)
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: E-Nazrin on November 06, 2010, 06:31:55 AM
That, or the staff is pulling another prank by making disliked/banned forum accounts into puppet accounts to bother people with.

To note, I am both html-saving and screenshotting this post just in case it gets 'unapproved' or deleted.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Rin Kagamine on November 06, 2010, 06:35:35 AM
It's true, I am he.

In fact, the entire staff is one collective entity.  We are all, and we are one!
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:36:04 AM
Yeah or maybe it was a misguided attempt at letting someone who was permabanned one last chance?  Not everything is a conspiracy ::)

Thanks for assuming malice before the fairly simple and obvious explanation that we unbanned him.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:38:31 AM
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8312/getbannedfrommotkgetban.jpg)

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1460/couragewolfunban.jpg)
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:52:08 AM
Doubleposting because I can.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5456/couragemomizitemplate.jpg)

Don't let me down, guys.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 06:53:04 AM
Sometimes the banned need to stay banned.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Momiji on November 06, 2010, 06:54:47 AM
Doubleposting because I can.
Don't let me down, guys.
*___*  Kakkoiiiiiii~~

[Edit]  As requested~
(http://www.distant-mind.com/images/awesome.png)
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:55:43 AM
Sometimes the banned need to stay banned.
See noone else believed me when I said he should stay banned but whatever o/
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: orinrin on November 06, 2010, 06:57:37 AM
Why isn't this locked yet?
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:58:39 AM
Don't worry folks, we're working on something very special.
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Drake on November 06, 2010, 07:00:27 AM
(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7224/canong.jpg)
Title: Re: Where can I post this?
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 07:02:38 AM
And on the night I finally "won" at Yume Nikki. I'm saving the exploration run for tomorrow. Wanna see Mars and summon UFOs!
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Cirno on November 06, 2010, 07:02:48 AM
Video Gamer VMLV: Please come see me after class.

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5125/cirnoteacher.jpg)

It has come to the staff's attention that you've taken your last shot at returning to the site (which, if you recall, you promised the MotK staff that you wouldn't screw up, and spent it creating pointless threads asking about where you can post other pointless threads, and generally being a bad poster. Now, by all rights, the MotK staff would be perfectly justified in just booting you off the site again, permanently this time. But in their infinite wisdom and mercy, they have elected to give you one last chance.

That means it's Snowball Challenge time!

Now, to make the festival more interesting yet, you are being granted a special mercy that is shown to few: an option of challenges. Three options. If you fail in the one you choose, you'll be permabanned again. If you succeed, though, you'll still get your chance at re-integrating into the MotK community. And here are your three choices!

1. Inspired by your enlightening post here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7593.msg478127.html#msg478127), your task is to rewrite important American historical events as if Cirno had been president at the time. 5,000 word maximum, with proper writing technique: that means spelling, grammar, indentation of paragraphs, and citations for bonus points. You shall be graded on historical accuracy based on your own experiences, and your own speculation as to what would have happened had Cirno actually been President. Among the more interesting picks for events include the passing of the Sedition Act of 1798, the passing of the Sherman Act of 1890, and the Annexation of Hawaii in 1898, though you are by no means limited to these alone, as they are merely suggestions.

or

2. Inspired by this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html), write a Syaoran x Reimu fic under 5000 words that turns into a modern parable on how free market economies are inherently unethical, with the condition that they realize they're totally wrong for each other and break up. Li Meiling's inclusion is not optional, and bonus points are to be rewarded for the inclusion of Nanoha Takamachi absolutely thrashing them all, eventually leading Reimu to conclude that true freedom can only be achieved through Stalinist economic planning.

or

3. Inspired by the general theme of NaNoWriMo, you are to rewrite Wuthering Heights using Touhou characters. The suggested route is to star Marisa as Catherine, who can't decide between Alice (Heathcliff) or Patchouli (Edgar). At some point, you must include shoutouts to Franz Kafka's Metamorphosis, preferably in the form of Sakuya, the bold maid who seems oddly indifferent to Heathcliff's angsting, probably because her proleterian sensibilities make her purer and more humane. Again, 5,000 words maximum.

If your submission does not meet our approval and you do not put the effort into this that we expect, then you automatically lose. Remember, this is your last chance. You have five days (or 120 hours) to get this done. Good luck!
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: orinrin on November 06, 2010, 07:06:04 AM
Inspired by the general theme of NaNoWriMo, you are to rewrite Wuthering Heights using Touhou characters.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 07:06:48 AM
Well that's pretty neat!

Also:
Quote from: Cirno
Inspired by the general theme of NaNoWriMo, you are to rewrite Wuthering Heights using Touhou characters.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Kiro on November 06, 2010, 07:16:37 AM
I am uncultured so I had to wikipedia Wuthering Heights. I vote for #1.

Also, Cirno's chest!
Title: Snowball
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 07:20:13 AM
Cirno's sig made me laugh heartily.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: HakureiSM on November 06, 2010, 07:26:57 AM
It's Cirno!
It's been a while.


Also please please pick option 2.
And I've yet to read Wuthering Heights but (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBe5JIl4KR8).
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 08:01:16 AM
Hey guys knock off the calls for rebanning. I'm trying to relearn the rules round here. It's quite natural I'll make some mistakes while trying to work myself back into the site. Please be a bit forgiving, and treat me as a new member, not one you are just itching to ban again.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 08:05:58 AM
Yes, knock it off when a staff member tells you you're facing a reban.  Sorry we didn't make it completely obvious.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 08:07:34 AM
I'm trying to relearn the rules round here. It's quite natural I'll make some mistakes while trying to work myself back into the site. Please be a bit forgiving, and treat me as a new member, not one you are just itching to ban again.


Also
2. Inspired by this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7601.0.html), write a Syaoran x Reimu fic under 5000 words that turns into a modern parable on how free market economies are inherently unethical, with the condition that they realize they're totally wrong for each other and break up. Li Meiling's inclusion is not optional, and bonus points are to be rewarded for the inclusion of Nanoha Takamachi absolutely thrashing them all, eventually leading Reimu to conclude that true freedom can only be achieved through Stalinist economic planning.
I see that you edited my post. Is that supposed to be the source material for my challenge, or did you just fill in the answer for the challenge for me?
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 08:08:22 AM
Hey guys knock off the calls for rebanning. I'm trying to relearn the rules round here. It's quite natural I'll make some mistakes while trying to work myself back into the site. Please be a bit forgiving, and treat me as a new member, not one you are just itching to ban again.
We're not "itching" to reban you, you're just proving yet again why you were banned in the first place.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 08:10:16 AM
We're not "itching" to reban you, you're just proving yet again why you were banned in the first place.

I sucked majorly at the challenge last time. Please don't let my ban/not-ban fate hang in the balence. I'm trying to as I said just relearn the rule, and may make mistakes periodically. I'm not an intentional rule violator.

Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Rin Kagamine on November 06, 2010, 08:11:58 AM
Hey guys knock off the calls for rebanning. I'm trying to relearn the rules round here. It's quite natural I'll make some mistakes while trying to work myself back into the site. Please be a bit forgiving, and treat me as a new member, not one you are just itching to ban again.
Since you've been gone for a while, allow me to explain what has happened.

Your posting has violated several rules and has generally been of no substance.  Rather than continue to hand out probations, you have been Snowballed!  A Snowball Challenge is a task you must complete satisfactorily or else you will be banned.

Essentially, you need to pick one of those options and complete it in 5 days or you will be banned from the forums again.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 08:14:51 AM
Also I see that you edited my post. Is that supposed to be the source material for my challenge, or did you just fill in the answer for the challenge for me?
Purvis just did that because he wanted to poke fun. It should also be noted that he edited that post without knowing that this Snowball Challenge was being planned. Effectively, that edit has nothing to do with your (mandatory) challenge.

I sucked majorly at the challenge last time. Please don't let my ban/not-ban fate hang in the balence. I'm trying to as I said just relearn the rule, and may make mistakes periodically. I'm not an intentional rule violator.
Is that so? Then how about spamming the same message over and over again (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7602.msg478159.html#msg478159), or making low-quality posts with nothing new to add to discussions, as you did in Renko's?

Ninja by Vic: Exactly.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 08:16:12 AM
I sucked majorly at the challenge last time. Please don't let my ban/not-ban fate hang in the balence. I'm trying to as I said just relearn the rule, and may make mistakes periodically. I'm not an intentional rule violator.
No, just a really dumb person who thinks claiming ignorance of the rules excuses you from being punished.  You're coming off of a permaban, we fully expect you to have the patience and common sense to read the rules and try not to repeat the same mistakes you made before.  Instead though, you choose to just throw your hands up and go "YOU CAN'T HURT ME I'M NEW AND DON'T KNOW THESE THINGS".

Doesn't work like that buddy.  You lost that "innocence" when you were perma'd the first time.  The terms of your unban was that you understood fully the rules and bylaws of this community and would respect them, instead of going into exactly what you're doing right now.  I even gave you a mercy probation to give you 24 hours to read the rules and stuff before you dug yourself any deeper.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Videogamer555 on November 06, 2010, 08:17:46 AM
And if there is no place for me to post a short random OP about a fan fic idea based on my sig, then just say there is no place. Please don't say things like nobody cares a f*** about it.


But please don't make me complete a Snowball Challenge. I suck at those as I know from last time. If the admin will insist on that, they might as well just ban me and get it over with, as I know that's what will happen anyway with this challenge. So that's why I'm BEGGING to have you remove this challenge, while I'm still trying to get a feel for the site. I think some things have changed and become more strict, so I may accidentally violate a rule here or there while I'm relearning the site. Please forgive such transgressions, and remove this awful challenge which threatens me with an almost certain ban. Please have mercy on me. This is the ONLY English language forums site dedicated to Touhou where I can go and ask for help if the program has bugs, or I can't get something working, etc. Please give me a chance, without the Snowball Challenge.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 08:19:30 AM
Bye!
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: dustyjo on November 06, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
Too late.

Do it or get banned, your choice.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 08:21:10 AM
Nope, too late period. :V
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 08:24:46 AM
I worked so hard on those challenges, too. Some people are so insensitive.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on November 06, 2010, 08:27:51 AM
Sometimes, I dunno whether to pity or to laugh, or to simply shake my head and walk away.

this is one of those times.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: dustyjo on November 06, 2010, 08:41:32 AM
Damn spoilsports.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Pesco on November 06, 2010, 08:57:06 AM
I kinda want to do the third one.

And screw y'all spamming pics when people be phonebrowsing.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Seventh Holy Scripture on November 06, 2010, 09:29:56 AM
Behold: The internet adventures of Videogamer555

http://www.youtube.com/user/BenHutchinson1
http://tales.namco.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2664636&sid=f4a150c4d97a96aed98e2f322b36c0f8#2664636
http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/91832-Sci-fi-movies-or-TV-shows-that-have-bad-science?p=1548815
http://www.petitiononline.com/BSZDAWii/petition.html
http://www.retrogamer.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14855&start=30#p498401
http://forums.animeseed.com/showthread.php?t=2322
http://forums.khinsider.com/music-theatre/155479-im-having-trouble-downloading-halo-sound-track.html
http://www.warsow.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=20642
http://www.warsow.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=20671
http://www.anime-forums.com/showthread.php?113114-ummm...Am-I-f***ed-!&p=3070796#post3070796 (http://www.anime-forums.com/showthread.php?113114-ummm...Am-I-f***ed-!&p=3070796#post3070796)

Quote from: Videogamer555 in a secret forum for banned people
Besides gaia is a HENTAI site. I've seen the crap on that. I never went back.

(LINKS BELOW ARE NSFW)
http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?t=40853
http://snesorama.us/board/showpost.php?p=342934&postcount=4
http://forum.lu.scio.us/showthread.php?p=230650#post230650
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/278681?search=Yachiru

Quote from: Encyclopedia Dramatica
AnimeDude/Bankai Ichigo/Rockman X/test user

Anime is a festering idiot who is nearly halfway at Chris Hanssen's level of stupidity. He's smart enough to use a proxy, but not smart enough to know when to quit. More of a really pathetically retarded idiot than a troll, he goes everywhere being a little fag who thinks he knows everything and bitching and fueding about shit that's not important or no one really cares about, tries to back up his self proclaimation that he knows a shitload about anime and video games with Googled or Wiki'd information, and even seems to be unable to tell anime from real life, as seen here: http://www.aerislives.com/converse.php?u=7255&u2=16283

He thinks he's cool, but he's sorely mistaken on that part. He logged into AL and at first got into a heated debate over how pirating and ripping software is illegal but modding a Xbox isn't, then started being an all around faggot. And what's worse is, the little buttmunch doesn't know when to take a hint. After being banned for constant idiocy on AL, he made a new account, Bankai Ichigo. After that was banned he made a third, Rockman X, then finally a fourth called test user after THAT. What he didn't do right was actually try to disguise his general attitude, and wait more than a day between the banning and creation of each account.

But that's not all. The little turd tends to migrate from site to site pulling this shtick. In fact, here's some others:
Anime's shit fanfic: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111133
Anime thinking he's all badass with a sword: http://uselessjunk.net/showthread.php?t=286873
Anime being a total retard: http://www.warsow.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=20671
Anime yet again being a retard and soliciting his shit fanfic: http://www.anime-forums.com/showthread.php?p=2895934
Anime's Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/benhut

Anyone that feels like it, feel free to bash the fuck out of this guy until he goes insane.

check out his awesome forum:
http://www.nvhforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17573&start=0
http://bensgaming.forumotion.com/

http://www.mediafire.com/?sz53rvqphyypp
The Legend of Touhou, A Link to the Past (fan fiction).txt http://privatepaste.com/039b965024

(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/1289037104-vggame.jpg)
http://www.mediafire.com/?wz2juwmymyn
VGamer's Slideshow.fig

http://www.the-digimon-zone.4t.com/
http://forums.emuparadise.org/showthread.php?p=1416584
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/myposts/17431669/
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: dustyjo on November 06, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
there's nothing wrong with liking loli


but there is something wrong with being a total douche
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Serp on November 06, 2010, 09:55:36 AM
Ah, well, sometimes it's nice to have a douche every once in awhile to keep the forum fresh and dainty.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
/!\ OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG /!\

He did the challenge.  I post it nao.

I finally got my paper on US history involving Cirno written. Here it is:


How might US history have been different if Cirno had filled the role of various presidents, key political figures, or just other people doing real dumb things, throughout our history? Well let?s find out. On July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Ice Fairy Independence was ratified. When King George saw this, he was furious. ?How can something that doesn?t even exist get mentioned in such an important document, ESPECIALLY when it dares to threaten treason to the king of England?!? he shouted. He didn?t realize that such a thing as an ice fairy was real. But he was about to find out, in a strange way. The declaration called for ice fairies to rise up against the king. And they did. There never was a war. Rather, Cirno herself flew across the Atlantic Ocean to England. She then froze the king in a block of ice. He froze to death instantly. She quickly made her way back to the colonies in America to tell of this story, but in the process she had to go bathroom, and pooped out a huge iceberg. Upon impact in the ocean it sent a massive tsunami that washed a hundred miles inland killing half of the colonists. ?Woops, I guess that was dumb of me,? she said. This was her first act of stupidity. On April 30, 1789, she was elected president. How she got elected president, nobody knows. Her first act as president was to go around to all the people in the colonies and offer them free ice cr?me cones which she made herself using her powers. She really didn?t do anything important as president, so that?s why American history book writers made up George Washington so the great embarrassment she caused the country wouldn?t be written into history books. After John Adams became president she decided to go off and work on a plantation. Why she chose a life as a slave, nobody knows. This is the second of her great acts of stupidity. In fact it was on Thomas Jefferson?s plantation Monticello. You often hear about the relationship Jefferson had with Sally Hemings, but it was actually a threesome that also included Cirno herself. She later gave birth to a human and ice fairy hybrid. Jefferson was shocked by this strange creature and killed it. That?s why nobody ever found out until recently during an archaeological expedition at Monticello. As she is immortal, she has lived throughout all history in the US. She originally wrote the Emancipation Proclamation, not Lincoln. But it was so botched up that President Lincoln had to rewrite it from scratch. In fact this made her so angry she used her powers to freeze Lincoln. She ran the country up until the time ?Lincoln? was shot. Really, after she froze him, she hired a lookalike actor during public performances to stand in for President Lincoln. The truth was about to come out, so Cirno had this lookalike assassinated in Ford?s Theater to give a reason for a dead president, to end any possible speculation about the ?president?s? fate. She seemed to disappear for a time, from public view but then reappeared during the late 1920s. One day after eating some lunch she went to the New York Stock Exchange, to get some tickertape for a party she wanted to hold with some of her friends back in Gensokyo. She had found a way back to her world recently and was getting homesick. But as she tried to open up a tickertape machine to steal the tape, she accidentally dropped it. It landed on a wire powering the stock tracking machines, shorting them out. This malfunction was corrected after a couple hours of repair. Unfortunately the damage had been done. Many transactions weren?t accounted for in that time period, and the market crashed. That was her third great act of stupidity. This happened in October of 1929. On January 20, 1969, she was again elected president. However she needed an adviser to help in presidential matters, so she hired Richard Nixon. As she stayed in the Whitehouse doing presidential paperwork, she had Nixon often actually speak at gatherings where she was supposed to attend. People saw her so infrequently that many forgot about her and came to believe Nixon was president. She even had him hire thugs to break into the Watergate building to steal documents which included information on over 9000 dumb things she had done (though each of these was less stupid than her so far 3 great acts of stupidity). This break in wasn?t covered up very well though, and as a result there was a huge investigation. Just when they were about to discover her part in the break in plot, Nixon (as her trusted adviser) went around and planted evidence leading back to him. He ultimately was impeached, and then resigned before the trial could be completed. She herself left after that for fear her involvement would be discovered. Moving forward to the most modern time period, we can see how her stupidity played a role in the past decade. On January 20, 2001, George W. Bush was elected as president. However because he preferred to do nonpresidential stuff like going golfing, he hired Cirno to fill in for him when he was gone. She wasn?t very good at being a backup for him though. She completely missed obvious signs that Al Qaeda terrorists were itching for a fight. Due to her complete incompetence, on September 11, 2001, the largest terrorist attack ever on American soil was carried out. This was her fourth great act of stupidity. In 2003, the president decided it was time she tried her hands at some more military intelligence analysis. In her conclusion she decided that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. This is how the Iraq War really started. This was her fifth great act of stupidity. Throughout US history she blundered along, often making the country worse for it too. However when Barack Obama became president he finally had her captured and killed using a special technique that is needed to kill immortal fairies. Although some Republicans believe that she still, possibly through her spirit, is guiding the current president too, into doing things such as the economic stimulus and the healthcare reform law. However as a Touhou fan I can certainly feel her spirit whenever I play a Touhou game.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Helepolis on November 06, 2010, 10:22:23 AM
Any student or guy reading/writing scientific papers would laugh at this.

Quote from: Helepolis
Scientific papers are not a block of text.
- You have no section division. Where is the abstract, introduction, related literature, research approach/framework, results, conclusion/discussion?
- You have no scientific references nor APA styling for it.
- And the list goes on...
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Minch on November 06, 2010, 10:31:36 AM
God, throughout all of his posts, he sounds a lot like a douche bag. And that report has no form whatsoever. Is he going to be gone forever now?
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 10:32:22 AM
Of course.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 10:35:37 AM
This guy was fun to exercise my internet detective skills on.

Not that he didn't leave a paper trail a mile wide >__>
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: trancehime on November 06, 2010, 10:38:14 AM
The guy's silly.

:fail:
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 10:40:47 AM
Sadly I find that I often have problems with  Touhou games setting up stuff like netplay. I need a GOOD forum, with people who KNOW what they are doing so I can set up a net game.
If maybe you restricted my posting permissions to the technical support section then I could get help with Touhou games when needed, but not make myself into an idiot.

If you check hackforums.net you'll see that I've NEVER been banned from there. If you check that Warsow forum you'll see I've been reactivated, but never was dumb enough to get rebanned. My luck ran out because of just how strict your rules are. Yes I've been banned on other sites too, but NEVER after just one day (ok there was one, but I was literally trying to test the admins to see how much spam it would take to get a ban and I spammed the heck out of that forum, but it wasn't one I intended to revisit anyway).

Hey guise I was totally just kidding, I just wanted to know where the rules are.  So please now make a special forum group and setup all sorts of permissions just for me!
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 10:43:06 AM
He's asking for tech support in his appeals thread, this guy is amazing

My problem is unique as I've followed all advice and still it's a no go. I'm thinking it might be that the one computer is Windows 7 64bit system instead of WIndows XP 32bit system (Touhou 12.3 was meant for WinXP at 32bits). But to confirm that this is the problem I need someone else with Windows 7 64bit to test the game in question. To do that, I need to make a post asking for help. To do that I need forum posting access in the technical support section.

You may not care, but I'm a diehard Touhou otaku and I want to play Touhou 12.3 online. Once I get it running I could spend the rest of my life playing against people online.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Minch on November 06, 2010, 10:45:59 AM
How amazing. We should've made him a special member. Cause he needs special needs. What a retard.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 10:47:12 AM
You may not care, but I'm a diehard Touhou otaku and I want to play Touhou 12.3 online. Once I get it running I could spend the rest of my life playing against people online.
Because we totally want to help him inflict himself on other people amirite :|
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 10:50:23 AM
More VideoGamer555 fun!
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/myposts/17431669/
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 10:54:26 AM
Oh he corrected us, apparently this is his myspace
http://www.myspace.com/benhut
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 10:57:15 AM
As for Gaiaonline I forgot I had an account. I actually see now it's an anime site, not a hentai site.
That totally makes everything different!
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Minch on November 06, 2010, 11:01:28 AM
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62 views and NOBODY KNOWS WHERE ON THE WHOLE G-DAMN INTERNET I CAN FIND A RIPPING TOOL FOR THIS GAME!? The internet is HUGE! Such a ripping tool for this game MUST EXIST. And out of 62 people ON A VIDEO GAME EMULATION FOURMS SITE who viewed my thread, NOT ONE OF THEM can tell me where to get such a ripping tool?! This is #@$#@$!$$@#% RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another great quote from Videogamer555555 whatever number he has.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 11:04:58 AM
And now we end the saga of VideoGamer, the misunderstood programmer.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7604.0.html

Enjoy.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Cadmas on November 06, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
Sent back to Gaia eh? A fate worst than death.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Minch on November 06, 2010, 11:14:53 AM
Let him stay there. He's going to be there one way or another.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Sapz on November 06, 2010, 12:28:08 PM
And now we end the saga of VideoGamer, the misunderstood programmer.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7604.0.html

Enjoy.
Oh sweet Jesus, that's quite a thing. @_@
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on November 06, 2010, 12:40:08 PM
ye gods.

the 2012 and Nostradamus thread.

I am laughing so hard my testicles hurt.  (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111133)
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 02:36:21 PM
 :o

SHI----------N
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: JT on November 06, 2010, 02:59:48 PM
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25 years old

(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9049/1276533883664.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 03:07:46 PM
And now we end the saga of VideoGamer, the misunderstood programmer.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7604.0.html

Enjoy.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/6rlbpe.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Seian Verian on November 06, 2010, 04:04:46 PM
I just came across this thread. All I can say is...

What the hell
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 06, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
Honestly?

This is more pathetic than funny.

Though maybe I have a bad taste in my mouth from another forum I used to go to, where they would ceaselessly and brutally taunt anyone with remotely unusual interests.

But anyway, this obviously isn't the place for him.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 04:14:36 PM
Oh man

We should unban people more often BV
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Bias Bus on November 06, 2010, 04:55:58 PM
I seriously couldn't stop laughing at all of this.

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25 years old

Then I saw this. What the fuck, man?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 05:18:08 PM
Honestly?

This is more pathetic than funny.

Though maybe I have a bad taste in my mouth from another forum I used to go to, where they would ceaselessly and brutally taunt anyone with remotely unusual interests.

But anyway, this obviously isn't the place for him.
Yes we're totally picking on him because he's different, not because he's a terrible poster as shown by the huge amount of links we dug up with him being a retard and getting banned.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 06, 2010, 05:22:20 PM
Yes we're totally picking on him because he's different, not because he's a terrible poster as shown by the huge amount of links we dug up with him being a retard and getting banned.

I never said that. At least I never meant to say that.

I don't have sympathy for him. My only thought was, and is, "wow, he really doesn't know how the world works. That's depressingly pathetic." And I also wondered what it would be like to not understand how the world works and to read all these comments, which reminded me of that forum I used to go to.

I'm not putting down you guys, and I think it's for the better that he's banned. I'm just saying that I find it more pathetic than funny.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 05:25:13 PM
Yes we're totally picking on him because he's different, not because he's a terrible poster as shown by the huge amount of links we dug up with him being a retard and getting banned.
I believe you need to :yukkuri:
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Minch on November 06, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
If he wasn't near his thirties then maybe, I would pity this guy. But come on, he's 25 and posting like an idiot, even after being warned and banned by countless other forums.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on November 06, 2010, 05:30:50 PM
do you believe, if I say some people may be autism?

no, not autistic, just plain ol' 4chan-ish LOLAUTISM
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
Autistic people are a lot easier to deal with and more fun to talk to than this idiot.
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Nobu on November 06, 2010, 05:38:24 PM
Geez, looks like I missed all the fireworks last night by going to sleep early. Then again, I don't regret getting a full night of sleep. Good riddance, I suppose.

This guy was fun to exercise my internet detective skills on.

Not that he didn't leave a paper trail a mile wide >__>

Remind me to never get on your bad side  :ohdear:
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 05:39:03 PM
CWC x Videogamer
Title: Re: Where can I post this? (Snowball Challenge Ahoy!)
Post by: Thata no Guykoro on November 06, 2010, 05:40:08 PM
So I got on and read this topic. Apparently I missed all the excitement. :V
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 05:41:42 PM
CWC x Videogamer
Nobody is stopping you from rushing to PSL right now.

I don't think that either of those deserves that much... credit, though.  :derp:
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: An Odd Sea Slug on November 06, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
do you believe, if I say some people may be autism?

no, not autistic, just plain ol' 4chan-ish LOLAUTISM

This isn't autism, this is a complete absence of any rational thought. I honestly suspect that the guy is Seniwac in disguise.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 05:44:32 PM
I honestly suspect that the guy is Seniwac in disguise.

HA!
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Pesco on November 06, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
I honestly suspect that the guy is Seniwac in disguise.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Thata no Guykoro on November 06, 2010, 05:55:02 PM
...Who's Seniwac?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 06, 2010, 05:56:48 PM
...Who's Seniwac?
Glad I'm not the only one. :V
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 05:58:17 PM
17:53 -!- UltimateTouhouFighter [~chatzilla@qq-C820E91.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #shrinemaiden
17:53 < UltimateTouhouFighter> Hello.
17:53 < UltimateTouhouFighter> Anybody on here?
17:53 < Warma> Yea
17:53 -!- UltimateTouhouFighter [~chatzilla@qq-C820E91.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [User has been permanently banned from PPIrC (bye)]

I don't think I've hit the /gline button any faster than this time.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 05:59:25 PM
...Who's Seniwac?

General all-around shitposter/stalker. Not really worth even have a laugh at.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: ?q on November 06, 2010, 06:01:07 PM
...Who's Seniwac?
Everyone's making me feel old today :(

I remember him through the Mafia games.  Midway through one game he decided to stop trying and start griefing.  He attempted to start the next game like that too but got the hook before that went too far.  I don't think he was any better elsewhere on the board.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Nobu on November 06, 2010, 06:02:35 PM
It's all hard to stomach, honestly. I don't disagree with the ejection at all, but I think i'm feeling closer along the lines that Squidtentacle is. Videogamer wasn't just executed, but he's been tied to a chariot to be dragged around town so others can take amusement from trumpeting his wretched existence. It's just not something I can be a part of and enjoy, it makes me feel dirty to be honest.  :X

Though as my sentiment appears to be the stark minority, and no one likes the moral high horse, i'll bow out of this debacle and let y'all have your fun.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Seventh Holy Scripture on November 06, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
this topic is so fabulous it was touched by a rainbow
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9063/81215428.jpg)

ruro was there in spirit
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:09:07 PM
It's all hard to stomach, honestly. I don't disagree with the ejection at all, but I think i'm feeling closer along the lines that Squidtentacle is. Videogamer wasn't just executed, but he's been tied to a chariot to be dragged around town so others can take amusement from trumpeting his wretched existence. It's just not something I can be a part of and enjoy, it makes me feel dirty to be honest.  :X
Maybe you missed the appeals thread, but whatever, I already had and finished this debate.

Quote
Though as my sentiment appears to be the stark minority, and no one likes the moral high horse, i'll bow out of this debacle and let y'all have your fun.
Given the fact he's been a severe pain for years, as well as having inflicted his brand of stupid on many websites prior to ours, I have a hard time feeling sorry.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 06:10:50 PM
If you ask me, his persistance reeks of  :trollface:

Wait, let me rephrase that.

His persistance reeks of desperately trying to be a  :trollface: and failing.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 06:15:07 PM
If you ask me, his persistance reeks of  :trollface:

Wait, let me rephrase that.

His persistance reeks of desperately trying to be a  :trollface: and failing.
Man I wish there was an angle tag so I could make a ring of :trollface:
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
If you ask me, his persistance reeks of  :trollface:

Wait, let me rephrase that.

His persistance reeks of desperately trying to be a  :trollface: and failing.

Don't we have better things to do than make fun of a pitiful, lonely wannabe troll? I think now that we're the pathetic ones.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on November 06, 2010, 06:17:43 PM
I'd say every now and then a lulzcow does come along and fun happens. but whatever the case, I do hope it is the last time he comes back here.
lolproxies.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 06, 2010, 06:18:52 PM
Don't we have better things to do than make fun of a pitiful, lonely wannabe troll? I think now that we're the pathetic ones.

My sentiments exactly, to be brutally honest.

Anyway, I'm going the way of the Nobu and heading out of this. Have fun, I guess.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Nobu on November 06, 2010, 06:19:02 PM
Maybe you missed the appeals thread, but whatever, I already had and finished this debate.

Given the fact he's been a severe pain for years, as well as having inflicted his brand of stupid on many websites prior to ours, I have a hard time feeling sorry.

I don't see how the appeals thread changes anything. And don't misrep my stance as 'feeling sorry for him', either. I don't, really. What gets me is seeing the uglier side of people that comes out when they perceive it acceptable to treat someone as a non-entity.

It's this same human trait that results in bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations. A group judges someone as an acceptable target for any and all malice sent their way. Even in a minor and inocuous situation like this one, it depresses me.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:20:11 PM
I'd say every now and then a lulzcow does come along and fun happens. but whatever the case, I do hope it is the last time he comes back here.
lolproxies.

And when he jumps off a bridge we'd all be saying "how tragic!"

It's called empathy. Use some.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Thata no Guykoro on November 06, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
Everyone's making me feel old today :(

Just make sure to chase all those dang whippersnappers off your lawn.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 06:24:11 PM
It's this same human trait that results in bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations. A group judges someone as an acceptable target for any and all malice sent their way. Even in a minor and inocuous situation like this one, it depresses me.

Excuse me, what? A repeat offender, who somehow managed to get unbanned, again, proceeds to shit up these boards, and the lot of us laughing at him is now on par with "bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations"? Seriously? I know you consider yourself a kind-hearted soul and all, and this is you saying that you're sensitive to the situation, but throwing this accusation at all of us doesn't really strike me as a particularly kind or charitable interpretation of what's happened here. 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:26:58 PM
Excuse me, what? A repeat offender, who somehow managed to get unbanned, again, proceeds to shit up these boards, and the lot of us laughing at him is now on par with "bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations"? Seriously? I know you consider yourself a kind-hearted soul and all, and this is you saying that you're sensitive to the situation, but throwing this accusation at all of us doesn't really strike me as a particularly kind or charitable interpretation of what's happened here.

As far as I know, stupidity does not justify hatred or mockery.

Also, I don't think Nobu was comparing you hecklers to racists, so much as simply saying that your actions stem from the same human nature. 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 06:30:24 PM
As far as I know, stupidity does not justify hatred or mockery.

Also, I don't think Nobu was comparing those of you who jeer to racists, so much as simply saying that your actions stem from the same nature. 

Uh, I don't hate this guy, but his behavior brought mockery upon himself. And Nobu saying that our laughter comes from the same place that results in bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations is a hugely inaccurate false equivalence. But then I don't take kindly to being so blithely scolded from on high like that.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:34:14 PM
As far as I know, stupidity does not justify hatred or mockery.

Maybe, maybe not. Malicious intent with regards to bannings does, however. (http://www.warsow.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=1101616235#p1101616235)

EDIT: Yes, I know that's not us, so don't bother pointing it out. It doesn't matter that it's not specifically us as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:36:04 PM
Uh, I don't hate this guy, but his behavior brought mockery upon himself. And Nobu saying that our laughter comes from the same place that results in bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations is a hugely inaccurate false equivalence. But then I don't take kindly to being so blithely scolded from on high like that.

And you don't find any problem looking down on Videogamer?

Look, it's perfectly fine to ban him, he was a retard, yes. But do we really have to make a 5-Page thread solely devoted to humiliating and despising him? Enough's enough.

Also, @Kilgamaya[Z], that isn't even on MotK, what the hell do you care
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
EDIT: Yes, I know that's not us, so don't bother pointing it out. It doesn't matter that it's not specifically us as far as I'm concerned.

I care because it demonstrates he has zero respect for authority, and give the way he popped up on IRC, I expect we're no different to him.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 06:38:55 PM
And you don't find any problem looking down on Videogamer?

Do I have a problem with laughing at a guy who shat up these boards? Whose own behavior - not his gender, nor his skin color, nor anything but his own behavior - quite justifiably resulted in him being banned (hopefully) permanently? No, not really.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:40:08 PM
I care because it demonstrates he has zero respect for authority, and give the way he popped up on IRC, I expect we're no different to him.

So now you try to justify this with character judgement? Nobody's that superficial, even the stupid.

Do I have a problem with laughing at a guy who shat up these boards? Whose own behavior - not his gender, nor his skin color, nor anything but his own behavior - quite justifiably resulted in him being banned (hopefully) permanently? No, not really.

But you're making a point out of spiting him. And that's different from simply banning him, read above.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:40:30 PM
And you don't find any problem looking down on Videogamer?
Nope, because he treated us with absolute contempt, has been a pain and a bandodger for years now, and finally we got through his thick skull he's not welcome here.

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Look, it's perfectly fine to ban him, he was a retard, yes. But do we really have to make a 5-Page thread solely devoted to humiliating and despising him? Enough's enough.
I don't think you understand how long we've been dealing with him, and how many times he's been banned previous to this final "last time".  Hell, we fucking gave him another shot despite him bandodging 5 times, and it turned up to be the same stupid poster he was over a year ago.

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Also, @Kilgamaya[Z], that isn't even on MotK, what the hell do you care
Because he claimed he was a good poster and that we needed to give him one last chance, when it's obvious he's been doing the same shit for years all across the Internet and has yet to learn his lesson.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing a background check on a repeat offender, especially one that has more than enough convictions against him to get him banned several times.

Maybe if he was banned from one or two other sites you could blame the moderation for hating him, but he's been banned from over a dozen sites, for the same reasons each and every time.  Ignoring the rules and stickies and posting garbage anyways, getting called out by staff and then getting hostile with them and getting banned for it, then choosing to bandodge and either make threats or plead incessantly to be let back in and given "one more chance".
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:41:56 PM
TSO said it better than I could.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on November 06, 2010, 06:42:28 PM
I don't see a problem with people laughing at him over a background check since he pretty much deserved it as far as I can tell, but assigning him an impossible challenge just so everyone can find yet another reason to mock him is kind of a dick move. Why couldn't he just have been perma-banned without being exploited? That just kind of struck me as maliciously intended when I read this thread.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 06:42:51 PM
The only thing I would find that may have appeared questionable was the statement implying that he would have gotten banned even if he had successfully finished the snowball challenge.

What he got was in no way unjust, though. If you look at how much he has done, how often he has been told to stop it, how often he has refused to read the rules or abide by them, which, as we can beyond reasonable doubt conclude from his comments, was done consciously, well, you get my point.

What was done was revealing his actions to the public. The humiliation he did himself.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 06:43:09 PM
I don't see a problem with people laughing at him over a background check since he pretty much deserved it as far as I can tell, but assigning him an impossible challenge just so everyone can find yet another reason to mock him is kind of a dick move. Why couldn't he just have been perma-banned without being exploited? That just kind of struck me as malicious when I read this thread.
Did you miss the part where he whined about not wanting to do it?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:44:12 PM

I don't think you understand how long we've been dealing with him, and how many times he's been banned previous to this final "last time".  Hell, we fucking gave him another shot despite him bandodging 5 times, and it turned up to be the same stupid poster he was over a year ago.


Frankly, I don't care how long it has been. I still think it's malicious to make a thread simply to hate one person. Call it moral high ground or whatever you may, he still needs to be treated with SOME dignity.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 06:45:06 PM
make a thread simply to hate one person
Check who the OP is :V
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 06:45:35 PM
What thread are you-

Check who the OP is :V
Ninja.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:45:44 PM
Check who the OP is :V

Check the title.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 06:45:54 PM
Even in the Snowball Challenge, it was said that if his entry turned out to be a really great one, he'd be let back in. The mods here are incredibly charitable, and I think it's a bit unfair to take issue with laughing at a guy who's basically made an internet career out of spamming up forums and ban-dodging, including this one as well.

Also, I'd like to thank Ruro and TSO for unearthing his history of bad behavior. This is a pattern of behavior with him, and folks like him usually get away with it because no one knows about their past.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 06:46:15 PM
he still needs to be treated with SOME dignity.

Outside of identity, respect is earned, not given.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 06, 2010, 06:46:31 PM
I don't think you understand how long we've been dealing with him, and how many times he's been banned previous to this final "last time".  Hell, we fucking gave him another shot despite him bandodging 5 times, and it turned up to be the same stupid poster he was over a year ago.

*shrug*

I'd have said "Fuck, that guy was annoying as all hell. Glad we got rid of the whiny bitch." and left it at that. Not mounted a shrine to his ricockulousness.

But that's me. I don't wail on people I hate after I've gotten rid of them, I say "they're out of my life, fuck 'em" and get on with it.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 06:47:49 PM
ruro was there in spirit
<3

He left a paper trail of pure stupid in his wake everywhere he went. I just found the links and pasted them into IRC, and TSO posted them in the appeals thread for laugh riots to be had. It wasn't hard to find him, his style was terrible-- all he ever did was demand downloads. He basically did all the work for me. ~

Don't we have better things to do than make fun of a pitiful, lonely wannabe troll? I think now that we're the pathetic ones.
Oh, we'll move on from him, but this was DAMN fun to do last night. Anything we can do would be a better use of time than this (NaNoWriMo!) but it's not such a bad thing to take some time out of our busy schedules to list one by one in his face why no one can stand him.

We gave him a chance to redeem himself-- indeed, I went out of my way to make that a fair challenge, giving him three options when everyone else has had AT MOST two. And then he said this little gem:

No!!!!!!!!!!
I was given a challenge. It was to last 5 days. The admin can not remove the challenge before 5 days has passed.
Now he's ordering us around. Ahahahah oh god.

It's this same human trait that results in bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations. A group judges someone as an acceptable target for any and all malice sent their way. Even in a minor and inocuous situation like this one, it depresses me.
This is the one thing I will concede: I went searching for his paper trail more for our having fun at his expense than the slight hope that they might actually spark a catharsis and he might actually use all that damning evidence as the basis for some kind of personal growth. But when you put this into context and realize that he was trying to make a mockery of us and our community with his bandodging and wasteful posts, I find it depressing that you could even begin to "take his side", as it were. The whole point of the idiot challenge was for him to get one more chance to make us all laugh-- and I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean, one more chance for him to make us all have a hearty chuckle and see that no, he's not beyond hope yet of becoming a valuable member of the site. And he failed at that, too.

And on a personal note, if you find this entire episode depressing, that you would think of me and the rest of your friends that way is even more depressing. Because the staff is a bunch of sadists who will ban you and laugh at you for the hell of it when you did nothing wrong.

Oh, one last note: there was one last post that we deleted from his thread. It was an IP harvester site. Until the very end, he had no intention of ever cooperating and showing that yes, he could be redeemed. His very last action was one of malice.

The only thing I would find that may have appeared questionable was the statement implying that he would have gotten banned even if he had successfully finished the snowball challenge.
If he had taken his five days to come up with something quality, I don't think I would have perma'd him. But he did it in only a short while, and it showed. If you want to be redeemed, you're going to have to work for it, and to the bitter end he wasn't willing to do even that.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:48:27 PM
I don't see a problem with people laughing at him over a background check since he pretty much deserved it as far as I can tell, but assigning him an impossible challenge just so everyone can find yet another reason to mock him is kind of a dick move. Why couldn't he just have been perma-banned without being exploited? That just kind of struck me as maliciously intended when I read this thread.
He was going to be banned regardless, the snowball challenge was never to "give him one last shot", his fate was sealed the moment he posted this thread and started spamming WHY DID YOU CLOSE MY THREAD and then got into a fight with staffers when told to drop it or else.

EDIT: I guess I'm wrong, Ruro's the one who ran the snowball challenge so whatever, I wouldn't have objected if she felt he earned it back.  I wanted to ban him without challenge but I let Ruro do what she wanted.

Frankly, I don't care how long it has been. I still think it's malicious to make a thread simply to hate one person. Call it moral high ground or whatever you may, he still needs to be treated with SOME dignity.
As much dignity as he treated us?  We gave him so many second chances it makes my head spin.  The guy was PERMABANNED, and bandodged 5 times, that's more than enough reason to keep him away for a lifetime.  And against our better judgement, we allowed him one last chance that NOONE ELSE has ever gotten, period.  And he went back to the same old shit, and then started getting hostile with us.

Sorry buddy, he earned it in spades.  Treat others as you wish to be treated.

*shrug*

I'd have said "Fuck, that guy was annoying as all hell. Glad we got rid of the whiny bitch." and left it at that. Not mounted a shrine to his ricockulousness.

But that's me. I don't wail on people I hate after I've gotten rid of them, I say "they're out of my life, fuck 'em" and get on with it.
We tried that, and he kept on coming back, thinking he was somehow welcome.  Permabanning and banning every single rereg wasn't getting through to him, so public callout was the last option available.  Believe me, I wanted to just ban him and get over with, but I saw the merit in pointing out his stupidity in hopes he never feels the desire to come back.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Nobu on November 06, 2010, 06:49:45 PM
Uh, I don't hate this guy, but his behavior brought mockery upon himself. And Nobu saying that our laughter comes from the same place that results in bullying, racism, sexism, and any amount of human rights violations is a hugely inaccurate false equivalence. But then I don't take kindly to being so blithely scolded from on high like that.

I don't like mockery. I'm guilty of it sometimes too, but I still don't like it. And yes, I believe that mockery stems from the same basic trait of humans to judge someone as inferior to oneself, making it alright to treat them negatively. It's your choice to consider it 'scolding' if you wish, but that wasn't my intention.

If someone died, and I remarked that "it makes me sad to be reminded of the human trait that we're all moral", does that mean I'm scolding the dead? Or the people that mourn? >_o

Nope, because he treated us with absolute contempt, has been a pain and a bandodger for years now, and finally we got through his thick skull he's not welcome here.

Some people believe in 'an eye for an eye', others believe in 'turning the other cheek'. It's a difference in philosophy.

 Just like the whole "Respect is earned, not given." statement that gets thrown around so often. There is still a baseline level of respect that I personally believe should be given to everyone, though obviously not everyone agrees with where that level should be.



 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 06:52:38 PM
Some people believe in 'an eye for an eye', others believe in 'turning the other cheek'. It's a difference in philosophy.
The staff did that, but eventually ran out of cheeks.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:53:05 PM
I don't like mockery. I'm guilty of it sometimes too, but I still don't like it. And yes, I believe that mockery stems from the same basic trait of humans to judge someone as inferior to oneself, making it alright to treat them negatively. It's your choice to consider it 'scolding' if you wish, but that wasn't my intention.
I really don't think this was mockery in any sense.  The guy earned every single bit, this was merely laying out his amazing history of disrespect and staff pain and torment.

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Just like the whole "Respect is earned, not given." statement that gets thrown around so often. There is still a baseline level of respect that I personally believe should be given to everyone, though obviously not everyone agrees with where that level should be.
And I fully fully agree, I give everyone a level of respect and I don't care how badly someone's wronged me, but I'm having a VERY hard time digging any sort of sympathy up for him after the shit he's pulled.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:54:48 PM
Treat others as you wish to be treated.

Think about what that actually means.

I really don't think this was mockery in any sense. 

mock?er?y [mok-uh-ree]
?noun, plural -er?ies.
1. ridicule, contempt, or derision.

I see ridicule. I see contempt. I see derision.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 06:55:39 PM
Think about what that actually means.
If I do this kind of shit to someone else, I fully expect and hope I get treated like an asshole in kind.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 06:56:07 PM
I don't like mockery. I'm guilty of it sometimes too, but I still don't like it. And yes, I believe that mockery stems from the same basic trait of humans to judge someone as inferior to oneself, making it alright to treat them negatively. It's your choice to consider it 'scolding' if you wish, but that wasn't my intention.

The false equivalence you made there, though, is between mocking someone for having a history of malicious behavior and finally getting their comeuppance, and mocking someone for their gender, skin color, ethnic heritage or whatever. There is a world of difference between the two, as I hope you know. So yeah, you'll have to forgive me if I took offense to that comparison.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Seventh Holy Scripture on November 06, 2010, 06:56:31 PM
He was going to be banned regardless, the snowball challenge was never to "give him one last shot", his fate was sealed the moment he posted this thread and started spamming WHY DID YOU CLOSE MY THREAD and then got into a fight with staffers when told to drop it or else.

To be charitable, I think there's a chance that if he had accepted the snowball challenge in good humor, made us giggle with the result and concurrently started following the forum rules, he could have passed - it's just that no one had the slightest expectation of him doing that after coming off a year-long ban and then a 24-hour probation for not reading the rules. Not even himself.

If the admin will insist on that, they might as well just ban me and get it over with, as I know that's what will happen anyway with this challenge.

We took him seriously when he said this, and he backpedaled minutes later. That was the real last straw. I suppose it's immature to have made him into a subject of public mockery afterwards, but if anyone earned it, he did.

And he doesn't even seem to be fazed in the appeals thread - if he doesn't mind having his sordid internet history dug up, why should we?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 06:57:43 PM
If I do this kind of shit to someone else, I fully expect and hope I get treated like an asshole in kind.

And my sentiments come from the belief that he did not hold much malicious thought towards us until the end.

Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 06:58:12 PM
EDIT: I guess I'm wrong, Ruro's the one who ran the snowball challenge so whatever, I wouldn't have objected if she felt he earned it back.  I wanted to ban him without challenge but I let Ruro do what she wanted.
He didn't earn it, no. I was still willing to give him a second chance, but trying to do a snowball challenge in such a short span of time is a really bad idea. Like I said, if he had taken his time and produced something of quality, he would have still been at the end of his rope, but he would have fulfilled the conditions of my challenge and been let back in.

In fact, the reason we didn't nip that appeals thread in the bud before I ever set off on my internet search was precisely because I didn't want to see my challenge go to waste. I worked too hard on that, to make it fair and viable. The only part I think I might have been going too far was the Metamorphosis crossover, but hey, wouldn't it have been a really good reason to let him back in if he had managed to pull off Card Captor Sakura meets Atlas Shrugged? Such a thing would have been spectacular. Too bad it can't be done in such a short time. Redemption isn't earned so conveniently and quickly.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Esifex on November 06, 2010, 06:58:45 PM
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up.



It's done. As a member of the community, he's failed. He's broken multiple rules, and he was punished for it. He tried to work his way around those rules, and was punished for it.

Sure, some of the mods are sadists. This is their community; they are the ones who have set the rules. They are the ones who decide how far is too far.

They were dicks about it. Sure. That's their perogative, though. Pursuing this further is going to lead to an unneccesary amount of drama between the remaining community - people we all think of as friends and compatriots, remember? I refuse to sit idly by and watch such bullshit tear this place up.

Could've been handled better. Sure.
He was a dumbass, a repeat offender, and a waste of everyones time. Sure.

He's gone now. It's done. Would everyone just please shut the fuck up about it, now? We get it.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 06, 2010, 06:59:17 PM
We tried that, and he kept on coming back, thinking he was somehow welcome.  Permabanning and banning every single rereg wasn't getting through to him, so public callout was the last option available.  Believe me, I wanted to just ban him and get over with, but I saw the merit in pointing out his stupidity in hopes he never feels the desire to come back.

Difference of opinion. I still wouldn't have gone to the lengths of making a public spectacle of it. I treat everyone, no matter how spiteful or stupid, with a baseline level of respect as a human being. For me, public taunting is below that baseline.

But, obviously, not everyone thinks that way. I'm simply stating my opinion. If I'm not supposed to state my opinion when it differs so drastically from the opinions of everyone else, then I'll just have to remember that.

EDIT: Goddamn post ninjas.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up.

Thank you. I was getting too caught up in it too.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 07:01:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 07:02:01 PM
And my sentiments come from the belief that he did not hold much malicious thought towards us until the end.
Conscious self-centered disregard for anybody else is the next best thing, and that he has enough of to fill the Mariana Trench.


Fakeedit: Seconding the sound effect.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 07:02:22 PM
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up.

He's gone now. It's done. Would everyone just please shut the fuck up about it, now? We get it.

Can do!
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Nobu on November 06, 2010, 07:03:50 PM
And on a personal note, if you find this entire episode depressing, that you would think of me and the rest of your friends that way is even more depressing. Because the staff is a bunch of sadists who will ban you and laugh at you for the hell of it when you did nothing wrong.

If I really thought that, I would have made more than the offhand comment. I didn't expect to have it blown up to this extent, but i'm not about leave until I feel like what I was trying to say is clear.

And feel better, my thoughts were more of a 'general thoughts on humanity' than anything specifically geared at you guys. :] After all, i'm no moral paragon, and I've definitely been guilty of the same stuff in here. But standing on the sidelines instead of getting caught up in the moment like I know you all did made me look at this differently than I might have otherwise.

I really don't think this was mockery in any sense.  The guy earned every single bit, this was merely laying out his amazing history of disrespect and staff pain and torment.

And it's honestly not that part which makes me recoil. Bringing VG's transgressions to the light was necessary and I have no problems with it. It's just scrolling through the responses to that afterward that made me feel queasy.

The false equivalence you made there, though, is between mocking someone for having a history of malicious behavior and finally getting their comeuppance, and mocking someone for their gender, skin color, ethnic heritage or whatever. There is a world of difference between the two, as I hope you know. So yeah, you'll have to forgive me if I took offense to that comparison.

False equivalence? Mocking, bullying, racism, sexism, murder, genocide. In one way or another all of these stem from basic human instincts and tendencies. And the feeling of hate. Being reminded of our capacity to hate (yes, even when I remind myself of the fact), even from people I look upon so highly(i.e. you guys), depresses me.

You can take the knee-jerk reaction and misrep my words into saying YOU GUYS ARE ALL JUST AS BAD AS THE NAZIS, I can't exactly stop you. That's your choice.

Everyone needs to shut the fuck up.



It's done. As a member of the community, he's failed. He's broken multiple rules, and he was punished for it. He tried to work his way around those rules, and was punished for it.

Sure, some of the mods are sadists. This is their community; they are the ones who have set the rules. They are the ones who decide how far is too far.

They were dicks about it. Sure. That's their perogative, though. Pursuing this further is going to lead to an unneccesary amount of drama between the remaining community - people we all think of as friends and compatriots, remember? I refuse to sit idly by and watch such bullshit tear this place up.

Heated discussion != drama, or at least the drama that would 'tear this place up'. Sometimes things aren't all happiness and rainbows, but there is value in these kinds of discussions as well.


Also, requesting permaban of Esifex for calling all the mods dicks >:D

Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
And my sentiments come from the belief that he did not hold much malicious thought towards us until the end.
Ahahahah hahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHA

No seriously, ahahahahhahahaha

He didn't hold malicious thought until the end?  The dude was banned for 2 weeks for shitposting before this version of the forums, and when his account got deleted due to the software reset, instead of actually you know, reading the huge notes all over the forums saying "accounts have been reset due to software upgrade, please rereg", he immediately posted HOW DARE THE MODS DELETE MY ACCOUNT AND GO BACK ON THEIR WORD and threw up a giant shitstorm.  This is what earned him his first perma.

This was over a year ago, so no, he's been a complete pain in the ass since day one.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 07:07:27 PM
Also, requesting permaban of Esifex for calling all the mods dicks >:D
OH GOD HERE IT COMES

THE MOD APOCALYPSE

RUN FOR YOUR L*user was banned for this post*
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 07:09:06 PM
Ahahahah hahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHA

No seriously, ahahahahhahahaha

He didn't hold malicious thought until the end?  The dude was banned for 2 weeks for shitposting before this version of the forums, and when his account got deleted due to the software reset, instead of actually you know, reading the huge notes all over the forums saying "accounts have been reset due to software upgrade, please rereg", he immediately posted HOW DARE THE MODS DELETE MY ACCOUNT AND GO BACK ON THEIR WORD and threw up a giant shitstorm.  This is what earned him his first perma.

This was over a year ago, so no, he's been a complete pain in the ass since day one.

Do you think he was consciously spiting you, or was he just stupid and felt he was violated?

I dunno, I can't view that thread, but it seems that it was confusion and fear that drove him, not hate.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Esifex on November 06, 2010, 07:09:17 PM
Heated discussion != drama, or at least the drama that would 'tear this place up'. Sometimes things aren't all happiness and rainbows, but there is value in these kinds of discussions as well.

Take a look at this thread. Several people in it are a step and a half away from considering themselves being attacked, and when that happens, people defend themselves and their views jealously. Especially on the internet. I sit around and watch my friends' social groups get torn apart by miscommunication and little, tiny things, and I'm tired of watching it happen. MotK is the closest thing to a social group that I have, and I'm not gonna sit around when at the very least, I could try my damnedest to get people to calm down.

If you all really want to discuss and debate this, then at least lets all take a breather and come back to it tomorrow. When everyone has taken a step back and settled down a bit.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
Take a look at this thread. Several people in it are a step and a half away from considering themselves being attacked, and when that happens, people defend themselves and their views jealously. Especially on the internet. I sit around and watch my friends' social groups get torn apart by miscommunication and little, tiny things, and I'm tired of watching it happen. MotK is the closest thing to a social group that I have, and I'm not gonna sit around when at the very least, I could try my damnedest to get people to calm down.

If you all really want to discuss and debate this, then at least lets all take a breather and come back to it tomorrow. When everyone has taken a step back and settled down a bit.

That does make sense. Calm headed discussion is always better, and I like the questions being asked here.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 07:11:06 PM
Oh, this is still going? Well.

Do you think he was consciously spiting you, or was he just stupid and felt he was violated?

I dunno, I can't view that thread, but it seems that it was confusion and fear that drove him, not hate.

Go check the thread at the other forum I linked again. He had been banned on other forums in the past and has bandodged with malicious intent and come out publicly and admitted this malicious intent. Given how many times he has bandodged here, I don't think it's at all a stretch to assume the situations were very similar, if not exactly the same.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 06, 2010, 07:11:36 PM
Take a look at this thread. Several people in it are a step and a half away from considering themselves being attacked, and when that happens, people defend themselves and their views jealously. Especially on the internet. I sit around and watch my friends' social groups get torn apart by miscommunication and little, tiny things, and I'm tired of watching it happen. MotK is the closest thing to a social group that I have, and I'm not gonna sit around when at the very least, I could try my damnedest to get people to calm down.

If you all really want to discuss and debate this, then at least lets all take a breather and come back to it tomorrow. When everyone has taken a step back and settled down a bit.

I would like to say that I wholeheartedly agree with this, personally.

Regardless, though, it's done now. I think we can drop it.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 07:11:57 PM
get torn apart by miscommunication and little, tiny things
Too slow E-mouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NE7-dWdxb8&feature=related)
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 07:13:22 PM
This will drop down if you let it drop down. Locking a thread to stifle conversation doesn't sit well with me. I want to see if your collective commitment to peace is strong enough that we don't have to lock this thread.

Kilga will probably laugh at me for putting so much faith in the community. So prove me right.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ubiquitial on November 06, 2010, 07:14:05 PM
Oh, this is still going? Well.

Go check the thread at the other forum I linked again. He had been banned on other forums in the past and has bandodged with malicious intent and come out publicly and admitted this malicious intent. Given how many times he has bandodged here, I don't think it's at all a stretch to assume the situations were very similar, if not exactly the same.

Alright. I was wrong, he was a dick, then. But I won't concede the point that mocking him is still wrong. Don't stoop to his level.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 07:15:16 PM
Do you think he was consciously spiting you, or was he just stupid and felt he was violated?

I dunno, I can't view that thread, but it seems that it was confusion and fear that drove him, not hate.
Even if he wasn't actively trying to cause trouble, which is debatable, it is still nothing more than the difference between committing a murder and running over a dozen people with your car because you could neither be bothered to stay at the speed limit nor to hit the brakes even though the collision was obvious to you every single time.  :derp:

Edit: too many posts, too many posts, everywhere, too many posts.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 07:15:49 PM
That's fine, and you're certainly welcome to your opinion. Just do be aware that it's incredibly unlikely to change anything, as cold and callous as that sounds.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Nobu on November 06, 2010, 07:16:51 PM
Take a look at this thread. Several people in it are a step and a half away from considering themselves being attacked, and when that happens, people defend themselves and their views jealously.

I suppose. I've gotten into much worse spats with Ammy/TSO in the past, so in comparison this didn't seem nearly as bad. :V It's probably a testament to our cohesion that we still consider each other friends to this day.

Or they secretly hate me and just like to keep up appearances. :ohdear:

Too slow E-mouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NE7-dWdxb8&feature=related)

Hey you're banned stop posting :(

This will drop down if you let it drop down. Locking a thread to stifle conversation doesn't sit well with me. I want to see if your collective commitment to peace is strong enough that we don't have to lock this thread.

Peace? Ahahah, sure...

/me puts down the battle axe sheepishly.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 08:02:09 PM
I suppose. I've gotten into much worse spats with Ammy/TSO in the past, so in comparison this didn't seem nearly as bad. :V It's probably a testament to our cohesion that we still consider each other friends to this day.

Or they secretly hate me and just like to keep up appearances. :ohdear:
Oh god he figured out my secret :ohdear:
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 08:04:37 PM
I suppose. I've gotten into much worse spats with Ammy/TSO in the past, so in comparison this didn't seem nearly as bad. :V It's probably a testament to our cohesion that we still consider each other friends to this day.

Or they secretly hate me and just like to keep up appearances. :ohdear:

You know I don't hate you, and that I respect you a lot. Your words, though, that our motivation to laugh at this malicious dude comes from the same place as sexism and racism? Yeah, that was a tad over the top. That's all I was addressing. We're still good.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 08:06:45 PM
You know I don't hate you, and that I respect you a lot. Your words, though, that our motivation to laugh at this malicious dude comes from the same place as sexism and racism? Yeah, that was a tad over the top. That's all I was addressing. We're still good.
Maybe to you but I still hate him >:(
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Seian Verian on November 06, 2010, 08:07:05 PM
Okay. I'm a bit late to this part of the thread too <_<; Anyway...

Regarding the "Respect is earned, not given" I would like to say that I agree with this- To SOME degree. There IS a certain respect that you should give even strangers who as far as you know have done nothing to "earn" it. Would anyone here call going out of your way to mock someone you know absolutely nothing about anything but wrong? However, respect CAN be further earned... But in this case, it's the opposite. This guy has done everything to make it so that any respect that could be given to him would be unwarranted. He has shown both malice and stupidity, and absolutely nothing to redeem it.

So I, personally, even not having been touched by his actions personally, do not believe that someone like him deserves any ounce of respect. He's shown himself incapable of learning from his mistakes, and malicious whenever anything doesn't go his way. You can say that he's a human being, blahblahblah, but so were the worst and most vicious monsters to ever exist. The only thing that anyone can be judged by is their choices and their reasons for them... The only reasons I see for his choices are egomania, stupidity, and malice, and the choices themselves did nothing but add clutter and annoy.

Will you say that someone like this deserves any respect? If so, fine. I don't. And I sincerely doubt that my feelings, or that of anyone else, will be changed by anything short of him showing that he can be redeemed. And that's not going to happen, not here anyway, so what else is there to discuss exactly?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 08:10:18 PM
Maybe to you but I still hate him >:(
(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7224/canong.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 08:17:38 PM
Regarding the "Respect is earned, not given" I would like to say that I agree with this- To SOME degree. There IS a certain respect that you should give even strangers who as far as you know have done nothing to "earn" it. Would anyone here call going out of your way to mock someone you know absolutely nothing about anything but wrong?

Well, in a case like that, I'd say a person has "earned" respect by not yet demonstrating they're a total fuckstick in some capacity. If they keep not demonstrating this, fantastic! If they do start demonstrating this, then they cease earning that respect.

Respect being "given" in this case is meant more as a "it comes automatically regardless of circumstances".
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Esifex on November 06, 2010, 08:31:37 PM
I respect people on a number of facets.

To use the source of my labor-related rage, we'll go ahead and use my former assistant manager, Keith, as an example.

As a person, he's a pretty cool guy. He's a Star Trek fan like me (maybe more-so, but whatever), so we get along pretty alright in this regard.

As a father, he's earned a lot of my respect. His son from a prior marriage is 21 and off to the Army now, just like he was in the Army, so you COULD say he's leading by example... if it weren't for the fact that he lost custody of his son a long time ago. Even though, the impact he's had as a father was that profound.
He's also adopting the son of his new wife - again, another kid from another marriage.

Major props to him as a person, and a father.

As a manager, he's terrible. None of the people that work under him can get along with him, he's constantly looking for things to punish people for. He has a bloated sense of self-worth and let the power of his position get to his head. He assumes that because he pulls great sales that he's a good manager, when in truth that just makes him a good hood tech. His refusal to acknowledge this has led to him being passed over for getting his own store, and he still has trouble with end-of-day closing procedures.

I worked under him, as one of those people who couldn't get along with him. I had - and have, still - no respect for him as a manager. I still chat with him on STO, and if he were to invite me and my brother over to his place some weekend, I'd pack my shit up and head over.

Since this is the internet, we don't have personal interaction like that to help us break things up, so we have to assess and judge things in different categories. For example, a persons worth here can be measured by several things; their sense of humor, how well their tastes correspond with your own, the quality of their posts, the contribution they bring to the table.

VG555 has successfully managed to negate just about every measurement I have for an internet acquaintence. I daresay he's done the same for a lot of people he's encounted so far.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Ryuu on November 06, 2010, 09:10:40 PM
we'll go ahead and use my former assistant manager, Keith, as an example.

Did I ever tell y'all about the time mah buddy Keith tried to make fireworks?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: JT on November 06, 2010, 09:11:01 PM
Your words, though, that our motivation to laugh at this malicious dude comes from the same place as sexism and racism? Yeah, that was a tad over the top.

I think Nobu was talking about psychological dehumanization, in which case he's actually somewhat right. I don't think he was implying that picking on this guy is somehow morally equivalent with racism.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 09:16:51 PM
Schadenfreude.

I am usually not for it, but it is at least partially a genetic thing, some people are more for it than others, usually proportionally to how much the person in question has done to garner their discomfort with him, so yeah.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 06, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
I think Nobu was talking about psychological dehumanization, in which case he's actually somewhat right. I don't think he was implying that picking on this guy is somehow morally equivalent with racism.

Maybe not directly, but I personally don't see a reason to cite those specific things in favor of simply citing the base of "psychological dehumanization" unless one is trying to passive-aggressively backhandedly accuse someone of being on the same level as those things.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Esifex on November 06, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
HEY.

What the fuck did I say.

I'm watching you, lot.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Suikama on November 06, 2010, 09:47:24 PM
I'm watching you, lot.
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2262/4321.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 09:52:46 PM
Maybe not directly, but I personally don't see a reason to cite those specific things in favor of simply citing the base of "psychological dehumanization" unless one is trying to passive-aggressively backhandedly accuse someone of being on the same level as those things.
Maybe because those are some of the worse things that these emotions have caused, and thus are best for examplifiying why he doesn't like it. That is most likely the intent, and Nobu didn't realize that putting it that way would sound as insulting as it came of as.

Hanlon's razor, me heartie.
Title: Vgamer
Post by: Tengukami on November 06, 2010, 09:55:28 PM
Hell, I don't even get the 'dehumanizing' part. Maybe Vgamer is a swell guy in person. But his behavior and malicious intent here invites laughter. It's based on his actions as a human being, in other words; no one is stripping him of his humanity, or making fun of him for any reason other than his actions. That's why it's off base to compare this to those other things, and I wish he would understand why that's a bit insulting. Also, I prefer no apology at all to the 'sorry you took a kneejerk reaction and were offended' non-apology.
Title: Re: Vgamer
Post by: Nobu on November 06, 2010, 10:32:29 PM
Hell, I don't even get the 'dehumanizing' part. Maybe Vgamer is a swell guy in person. But his behavior and malicious intent here invites laughter. It's based on his actions as a human being, in other words; no one is stripping him of his humanity, or making fun of him for any reason other than his actions.
That's why it's off base to compare this to those other things, and I wish he would understand why that's a bit insulting. Also, I prefer no apology at all to the 'sorry you took a kneejerk reaction and were offended' non-apology.

When it comes down to it, the sum of human experiences and behaviors boil down to comparitively fewer base elements. Love. Hate. Anger. Fear. Joy. Sadness. Contempt.

Making fun of people is one thing, but I get bothered when I witness strong contempt being expressed by myself or others. I won't name names, except I will say that Ammy is not one of those people so he won't keep thinking i'm trying to come down on him personally. You certainly can't speak for everyone however, and contemptuous attitudes can be found everywhere, far beyond the scope of this thread. So do I think all people who express contempt for something are terrible people? No. Do I think that if you feel contempt for someone/something, that puts you on the same level as a bigot, racist, or murderer? No.

Does it make me sad to think about how we can feel such feelings of contempt, and think that this is the same feeling that leads to terrible atrocities? Yes. Did I get reminded of this when I skimmed through this thread earlier today? Yes. Do I feel like I need to apologize for making these thoughts known? No.

Though I will apologize if I wasn't clearer, because these things always seem to boil down to a miscommunication, especially between the two of us Ammy. :/
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Serp on November 06, 2010, 11:36:35 PM
I can understand how the sight of people being mocked and arguably dehumanized could make a person uncomfortable.  I don't think that our actions were immoral, though.  I think that everyone here has the wisdom to stop short of actually violating this guy's rights as a human being, and I don't believe that making fun of him is anything close to that line.  Or are you filled with that same sense of moral outrage when you see a politician or celebrity mocked just as badly if not worse on national TV?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Drake on November 06, 2010, 11:43:24 PM
guys this was supposed to be fun
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Serp on November 06, 2010, 11:45:32 PM
Hey, I don't know about you, but I find ethical debates fun too. :P
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 11:46:31 PM
I don't even see how this is dehumanizing or "contemptuous".  The guy was a liar and a bully and a stuck up ass.  He was directly hostile to anyone who dared to tell him he was doing something wrong and treated people like tools for his amusement and needs.  If you want to talk about dehumanizing, he was the one that was treating everyone with contempt and treating us like his personal slaves.

All that happened is he was exposed for what he did.  Dehumanizing would be to strip someone of their dignity and humanity for no fault of their own.  Knocking down the ego of an inflated ass is not stripping them of their humanity.  How having fun with someone who was a major pain in the ass is even remotely on the same level as a real racist or other severely prejudiced person is beyond me.

And stop beating around the bush and just spit out who you're "morally outraged" at.  Getting kind of tired of your passive-aggressive snipes and vague accusations.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Furienify on November 06, 2010, 11:51:35 PM
I was slightly uncomfortable at first, too, because I also hate it when people act with contempt.

But, I think contempt is more of a one-sided thing, though this may make no sense to people. It lacks a certain justice to it. If a random member in good standing was picked on in this way, yes, that's definitely contempt and yes, it's an injustice.

Was Videogamer a member in good standing? No. Has he ever been? No. Was he on other websites? No. Has he done a single nice thing for the side? No, unless you count the lulz.

So in this case, I don't see this as contempt. It's just justice. He reaped what he sowed. Karma. Whatever you want to call it. It's a two-way thing. Contempt is not, it is very much one-sided, just like the many historical atrocities contributed to the emotion/feeling/phenomenon in general.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 06, 2010, 11:52:49 PM
And stop beating around the bush and just spit out who you're "morally outraged" at.  Getting kind of tired of your passive-aggressive snipes and vague accusations.
I think you in particular should be able to forgive somebody for unintendedly insulting somebodie's views and likening it to atrocities.   :V

I am still convinced that neither time was it done with malicious intent. Chill out and forgive, mang.  :yukkuri:
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Nat Tea on November 06, 2010, 11:54:02 PM
I've been watching this thread for god knows how long, but I still can't picture the entire story.

Do you think anyone can explain it to me in a summary?

preferably in a script stylized after Dragon Ball Z :smug:
[/tt]
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 06, 2010, 11:56:50 PM
I think you in particular should be able to forgive somebody for unintendedly insulting somebodie's views and likening it to atrocities.   :V
I'm not even talking about that, I'm more annoyed he keeps on insisting he felt vibes of "evil feelings" and is trying to shame people but not actually coming out and saying "ok I think you and you are terrible people" etc.

If you got a problem with someone, come out and say it and let it stand on its own merits, instead of dodging the issue and getting in passive-aggressive snipes.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: UncertainJakutten on November 06, 2010, 11:58:32 PM
@Serp: Well, I think the main difference in moral outrage between this situation and a politician/celebrity being lambasted, if there is any, would be that in this case, one knows the people doing the dehumanizing (I think I agree with it, but I'm not 100% certain. I mean, that this was a dehumanizing situation. Something bugs me about it, I just haven't entirely ferreted it out), whereas usually it's just Generic Asshole With An Opinion Number Forty Six talking about celebrities/politicians and digging up their past and such.

Also, you and you are terrible people. etc.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2010, 11:58:55 PM
This will drop down if you let it drop down. Locking a thread to stifle conversation doesn't sit well with me. I want to see if your collective commitment to peace is strong enough that we don't have to lock this thread.

Kilga will probably laugh at me for putting so much faith in the community. So prove me right.
Kilga, you can laugh at me now if you like.

Nice job sabotaging yourselves, all.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Reddyne on November 07, 2010, 12:03:40 AM
guys this was supposed to be fun
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: helvetica on November 07, 2010, 12:05:15 AM
@Serp: Well, I think the main difference in moral outrage between this situation and a politician/celebrity being lambasted, if there is any, would be that in this case, one knows the people doing the dehumanizing (I think I agree with it, but I'm not 100% certain. I mean, that this was a dehumanizing situation. Something bugs me about it, I just haven't entirely ferreted it out), whereas usually it's just Generic Asshole With An Opinion Number Forty Six talking about celebrities/politicians and digging up their past and such.
It's one thing to have someone innocent have garbage dug out about them and strewn across the floor.  That is definitely a terrible thing.  It's another to have someone who was an ass and treating everyone like shit suddenly have their behavior exposed for what it was when they got caught and tried to plead for yet another "last chance".

The guy was a troll and treated everyone like his personal slaves, and when he finally realized he was caught in a corner he tried to lie and claim it was just an honest mistake, an "honest" mistake he made over a thousand times prior.  I'm having a very very very hard time justifying sympathy for his plight.

It wasn't like we dug up his girlfriend and were laughing at how ugly she was, we pulled out examples from other forums and communities he shat up and how this was nowhere near the first, nor probably the last, site he "graced" with his particular variety of stupid.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: UncertainJakutten on November 07, 2010, 12:10:12 AM
Oh, I wasn't even touching this debate. I wouldn't know how to. I'm merely talking about Serp's point about comparative outrage from an outside perspective. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Yeah, I feel something was bad about this but there's no point crying over spilled milk. Things happen.

The you and you thing was a poor attempt at humor.

Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Seian Verian on November 07, 2010, 12:10:32 AM
Kilga, you can laugh at me now if you like.

Nice job sabotaging yourselves, all.

I wouldn't say that everyone who has posted in this thread since that comment has "sabotaged" themselves <_<; I've seen one, maybe three people at most, sound at all like they have any real hostility since then.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Iryan on November 07, 2010, 12:11:54 AM
I'm not even talking about that, I'm more annoyed he keeps on insisting he felt vibes of "evil feelings" and is trying to shame people but not actually coming out and saying "ok I think you and you are terrible people" etc.

If you got a problem with someone, come out and say it and let it stand on its own merits, instead of dodging the issue and getting in passive-aggressive snipes.
I agree that being clear about ones message would have been the better move in every way, and I understand that it must be annoying, seeing as it was still pretty obvious as to what comment made by whom he was referring to in particular.

Still, keeping the debate on just because of that, even though Nobu made it clear that it was the general existence of contempt in the nature of humanity that he was talking about, and him feeling compassionate towards VG, possibly unreasonably, exists in the nature of humanity just in the same way, seems unnecessary to me.

As I see it, things are sorted out. The rest is just forgiving somebody for making a little stupid mistake that, in the end, didn't cause much actual harm, if any.


On an unrelated note, somehow I am always writing "she" when referring to Nobu and then have to go back to correct it. No idea why.  :derp:
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 07, 2010, 12:14:51 AM
I've been watching this thread for god knows how long, but I still can't picture the entire story.

Do you think anyone can explain it to me in a summary?

preferably in a script stylized after Dragon Ball Z :smug:
[/tt]

From what I can gather:

LAST TIME, ON VIDEOGAMER Z:

Videogamer, a member banned from MotK for his rage against society and failure to be a worthwhile member of the community, was given a chance to redeem himself and was UNBANNED!

But little did the administrators know that he hadn't changed, and in an unexpected move CONTINUED HIS LEGACY OF INFERIORITY!

Finally, the admins had enough, and gave him ONE. LAST. CHANCE. to redeem himself: the great SNOWBALL CHALLENGE!! But Videogamer backed out, charging his laser for THREE WHOLE EPISODES until the admin's said "fuck it" and BANNED HIM AGAIN!

Now, as the rubble of his tirade clears, a new conflict happens...BETWEEN CPMC ITSELF!!!

On one side, the admins of MotK LAUGH  at Videogamer, morphing his last topic into a MONUMENT TO HIS ASSHOLISM!!!

On the other, some of the members DISAGREE, feeling that even Videogamer deserves a modicum of respect!!

The two sides have been fighting in relatively civil conflict when ESIFEX comes in as a medium for both sides!!! For a time, the fight is calmed...

OR SO IT SEEMS.

And now the two sides are at it again, spending THREE MORE EPISODES charging their attacks!

How long will this go on? Will Esifex step in again to calm the combat? Will MotK ITSELF be destroyed?! Why are we STILL HAVING THIS DISCUSSION?!

Find out next time on VIDEOGAMER Z!!!!

EDIT: Oh fucking hell. 8 replies?

LAST TIME:

WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD STILL BE GOING ON.

WE. WERE. WRONG.

Because apparently IT'S PRETTY MUCH OVER NOW!!!

FUCK
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 07, 2010, 12:16:04 AM
Squid, you win IM. And that's the last good thing to come out of this thread.

Edit: Ah, there, TSO's locked it.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Videogamer: Aspiring Programmer, Beggar, Idiot
Post by: Pesco on November 07, 2010, 12:16:34 AM
Cut: yeah was saying that.