Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: hyorinryu on August 18, 2010, 04:06:55 PM
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Current banlist
http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/6472439/
As you can imagine, I don't like it. Unbanning Dark Hole and banned Heavy Storm can't be good IMO. Then, there is the whole " I like frogs and they banned Substitoad" thing, but the consensus is that he was broken and should be banned thing.
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Ha ha, old chap! I wonder if the deck I used in like 8th grade is still useable.
Nope Raigeki is still banned.
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Ha ha, old chap! I wonder if the deck I used in like 8th grade is still useable.
Nope Raigeki is still banned.
They unbanned Dark Hole, that's bad enough.
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Dark Hole ruins my whole game plan though. The deck was built around Command Knight and killing all my monsters is not a good idea.
Not to say there wasn't a time I used Dark Hole frequently as well.
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Command Knight
Just throw in some tuners and synchros and you're set.
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Just throw in some tuners and synchros and you're set.
Some what and what?
Keep in mind i've not played sense Command Knight was a brand new card. I really need to find a way to play this akin to shoddy with pokemon.
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I really need to find a way to play this akin to shoddy with pokemon.
You heard of YVD by any chance?
Brain Control banned now? Aw, there goes that mind control deck idea I had.
And Solidarity is still COMPLETELY unrestricted? I swear, I build decks solely to abuse that thing.
EDIT: Cyber Dragon now unrestricted? Mwahahahahaha.
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YVD is actually...too manual. It can host YGO games, but there might be some moments where you have to check the rulings which is pretty inconvenient. I usually play YGO online through World Championship series on the DS.
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You heard of YVD by any chance?
Brain Control banned now? Aw, there goes that mind control deck idea I had.
And Solidarity is still COMPLETELY unrestricted? I swear, I build decks solely to abuse that thing.
EDIT: Cyber Dragon now unrestricted? Mwahahahahaha.
Solidarity decks haven't topped frequently enough. Meh card in my opinion.
YVD is actually...too manual. It can host YGO games, but there might be some moments where you have to check the rulings which is pretty inconvenient. I usually play YGO online through World Championship series on the DS.
Try Yugioh network, then.
I'm thinking of making one of those "YOU WA BAN" pictures with Subs, what do you guys think?
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I have a deck made entirely out of Light and Dark monsters for the purpose of summoning Chaos Emperor Dragon and Envoy Black Luster Soldier. I haven't played in years, good to see those two are banned making my deck useless. It's not like I ever played in tournaments anyway.
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Oh shit where did I put those Monster Reborns...
Why the hell did they keep Cold Wave though? That card is still broke as fuck.
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Oh shit where did I put those Monster Reborns...
Why the hell did they keep Cold Wave though? That card is still broke as fuck.
cuz' they're lame, as proven by frog rapage and them barely touching x-sabers.
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And Infernity. Launcher limited to one? That's it? For every Stygian Street Patrol in the grave, there's another launcher. Just search Mirage with Archfiend and then use Stygian to summon Mirage and there you go another synchro.
Poor subby :ohdear:
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Okay, I haven't played in years, but could anyone explain the sheer levels of monster power levels that could require an unbanning of DARK FUCKING HOLE?
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Okay, I haven't played in years, but could anyone explain the sheer levels of monster power levels that could require an unbanning of DARK FUCKING HOLE?
No, I don't think anyone can. I, honestly don't get it my self. Ah well, guess I'll get used to getting Dark Holed followed by Fail Troll shenanigans.
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Just who is this ban making happy?
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X-Sabers, Herald, Debris-Hime, maybe Fabled.
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If you're really worried about Dark Hole that much just pack a few Starlight Roads.
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If you're really worried about Dark Hole that much just pack a few Starlight Roads.
There's no guarentee that you'll have a road when they play it. I prefer Bribe and Aegis tbh.
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Starlight Road is still better though since it not only negates, but generates card advantage.
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Starlight Road is still better though since it not only negates, but generates card advantage.
True. But it seems too situational(that, and I just hate it.) Perhaps I'll change my mind when I see the new format.
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http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/6472439/
As you can imagine, I don't like it. Unbanning Dark Hole and banned Heavy Storm can't be good IMO. Then, there is the whole " I like frogs and they banned Substitoad" thing, but the consensus is that he was broken and should be banned thing.
>They should ban Ronintoadin, now. Remind me, what did Substitoad do to make itself broken?
Just who is this ban making happy?
Remember, Konami is an idiot when it comes to the banlist.
EDIT: Crap, I'm getting used to putting the > character at the beginning at all of my sentences.
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There are too many cards I don't know how what any of the notable new cards and effects do so I can't play this for lulz.
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I kinda hate YGO due to the whole Tuners and Synchro monsters and crap. It just... eugh.
In the meantime, happy to see Black Hole playable again for the first time in forever. 8D
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I kinda hate YGO due to the whole Tuners and Synchro monsters and crap. It just... eugh.
In the meantime, happy to see Black Hole playable again for the first time in forever. 8D
Really, I love the synchros and tuners. They are what fusions should have been. ADmittedly, they could be less splashable(I think we could do without stardust and Black Rose), but other than that, they're great.
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Synchros are really just like fusions without specific materials and Polymerization which makes things a whole lot convenient.
The proper timing can turn around an entire game.
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But I like my XYZ Dragon Cannon.
I'm sad I never had the cards to make a deck using it though because all I has was the resulting card...
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But I like my XYZ Dragon Cannon.
I'm sad I never had the cards to make a deck using it though because all I has was the resulting card...
I know what you mean. I loved that series. On the bright side, you could probably get them all for a few cents a piece :D
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My XYZ Dragon Cannon card is pretty beat up though and i'd need the other varients as well to get it out faster and the like and I really need to save money.
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True. Big problem for me too. Doesn't help that Konami's an ass about pricing. I'm not forgiving them for Christia and solemn Warning.
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Christia
:ohdear: :ohdear:
And Fabled Raven goddammit
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:ohdear: :ohdear:
And Fabled Raven goddammit
This and lolpotofduality
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This and lolpotofduality
oh god $100 card :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:
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PoD was Super rare in the OCG, and solemn Warning was a common. Dark Armed Dragon was a regular rare too.
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True. Big problem for me too. Doesn't help that Konami's an ass about pricing. I'm not forgiving them for Christia and solemn Warning.
I remember my buddy somehow pulling a Christia (Archlord Christia, right?) from... like... his third pack. :|
He promptly sold it to people who WOULD pay outrageous prices about that.
So about that ban list: i haven't played regularly for a few months (Too much tourney mentality at my usual place, everyone's running metadecks and OTKs and crap), but I haven't heard anyone happy about this.
Speaking of OTKs: I think that's why Toad was banned.
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This card (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Goyo_Guardian) more or less killed off my willingness to take YGO remotely seriously.
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Meh, there are plenty of ways to handle Synchro monsters, easiest being good ol' CED (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Compulsory_Evacuation_Device)
The thing that makes Synchros balanced overall is the fact that you sacrifice card advantage for power. That power leads to eventaully regaining advantage but if you run a lot of one for one destruction cards, then you can handle them no problem (gadgets anyone?)
Also random people who don't know anything about the game always pull the best cards. Some little kid pulled Naturia Pineapple in a pack, traded it for 5 booster packs and pulled FREAKING ANOTHER ONE. :colonveeplusalpha:
Also I split a box between my brother and some other people. We all pulled shit but my brother's girlfriend pulled a Pot of Duality in the first pack she opened. :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:
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So yeah a local store had a 3 Pack of old booster packs I bought it for lulz. One of the packs was a Spanish pack. Everything I got was complete crap with the exception of my Spanish Tri Horned Dragon (I think it's tri horned Dragon)
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Meh, there are plenty of ways to handle Synchro monsters, easiest being good ol' CED (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Compulsory_Evacuation_Device)
For a second, I thought you meant the other CED. (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Emperor_Dragon)
But yeah, Evac. Device is a beautiful card for getting rid of annoyances (or pissing people off, as bounce-heavy water decks tend t'do :3 ).
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I remember my buddy somehow pulling a Christia (Archlord Christia, right?) from... like... his third pack. :|
He promptly sold it to people who WOULD pay outrageous prices about that.
So about that ban list: i haven't played regularly for a few months (Too much tourney mentality at my usual place, everyone's running metadecks and OTKs and crap), but I haven't heard anyone happy about this.
Speaking of OTKs: I think that's why Toad was banned.
Konami's has been screwing fairies over since the beginning, all the good one's have been secret rare(cept the ****blocking ritual.) Recently, some of them were made Championship prizes.
Oh. I know why toad is banned, frog varients completely raped the OCG(the Japanese tournament scene), it's just he was fun. Frogs are fun. People making OTKs out of him doesn't change that(I don't OTK, there's no fun in that, and I can't afford it.) Wouldn't be a big deal, but there's no other way to play yugioh other than competitively, as Traditional is a complete mess. Fortunately, my school decided that the banlist is shit, so we're keeping the old one (no one has bought anything post-Stardust Overdrive), and the format back then was wonderful, too bad The Shining Darkness turned it into a sackfest.
This card (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Goyo_Guardian) more or less killed off my willingness to take YGO remotely seriously.
I don't see what's so bad about Goyo (he was in one of my first packs getting back in to Yugioh)... errr I mean, he's overpowered, yes, but Black Rose Dragon is much worse IMO.
Meh, there are plenty of ways to handle Synchro monsters, easiest being good ol' CED (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Compulsory_Evacuation_Device)
The thing that makes Synchros balanced overall is the fact that you sacrifice card advantage for power. That power leads to eventaully regaining advantage but if you run a lot of one for one destruction cards, then you can handle them no problem (gadgets anyone?)
Personally, I favor Mole. Same thing happened to me(remembers fond memories of Ehren, Ultimate Elphin, and double Chalice.) I traded the Elphin for a secret Rai-Oh.
Also random people who don't know anything about the game always pull the best cards. Some little kid pulled Naturia Pineapple in a pack, traded it for 5 booster packs and pulled FREAKING ANOTHER ONE. :colonveeplusalpha:
Also I split a box between my brother and some other people. We all pulled shit but my brother's girlfriend pulled a Pot of Duality in the first pack she opened. :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:
I thought that would work at the SOVR, I had two other people open them for me.
One of them pulled Dark Rabbit.
:colonveeplusalpha:
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Wait so you have crap that can steal enemy monsters but Raigeki is banned?
Rules make no sense.
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Wait so you have crap that can steal enemy monsters but Raigeki is banned?
Rules make no sense.
Goyo is a synchro and has too attack in order to do it, making him vulnerable to any and everything that screws with battle and summoning.
Raigeki on the other hand, is a spell without a requirement, allowing you to nuke your opponent's field without any chance to counter it sans Bribe(metas don't run it), Solemn(can only have one), and road(whose usefulness acts as a measure of how lame the format is :P). At least with Dark Hole (whose unbanning is BS, btw,) you have to set up then and there to OTK, where as with Raigeki, you can play it and game them with your current set up.
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However the same applies to an enemy with Raigeki. And there is tons of BS ways to stop everything now it seems.
Seriously though the game just seems to cramming more and more BS effects onto everything. Soon we'll have cards with 5 Paragraphs of effects on it.
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However the same applies to an enemy with Raigeki. And there is tons of BS ways to stop everything now it seems.
Seriously though the game just seems to cramming more and more BS effects onto everything. Soon we'll have cards with 5 Paragraphs of effects on it.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rainbow_Dragon
Also, you can predict a Goyo. The same can't be said for Raigeki.
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Konami's has been screwing fairies over since the beginning, all the good one's have been secret rare(cept the ****blocking ritual.) Recently, some of them were made Championship prizes.
Oh, do not get me started on fairies. I'm still ROYALLY pissed that the light/fairy deck didn't come out as an actual deck, or even REMOTELY obtainable-by-the-average-person rarities (Take a guess at what I run! :V)
Oh. I know why toad is banned, frog varients completely raped the OCG(the Japanese tournament scene), it's just he was fun. Frogs are fun. People making OTKs out of him doesn't change that(I don't OTK, there's no fun in that, and I can't afford it.)
This. OTKs and FTKs (along with the, pardon the term, tourney-induced idiocy and lack of original, fun decks) have pretty much killed the... the... /social/ part of the game. I like playing against my buddies in town, but... ...I don't do tourney. And everyone there - save for one - does. Getting thrashed in a single turn isn't fun.
Wouldn't be a big deal, but there's no other way to play yugioh other than competitively, as Traditional is a complete mess.
Yup.
Fortunately, my school decided that the banlist is shit, so we're keeping the old one (no one has bought anything post-Stardust Overdrive), and the format back then was wonderful, too bad The Shining Darkness turned it into a sackfest.
Your school is a bright group of people! And remind me which The Shining Darkness was? Was that, like, the second Blackwing pack that was REALLY heavy with those and Lightsworns?
(Speaking of Lightsworns, fuck the... oh... what was it.... Lightsworn/Dark-something-or-other hybrid decks that were big around back. To hell with those.)
Wow that was a rant.
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Oh, do not get me started on fairies. I'm still ROYALLY pissed that the light/fairy deck didn't come out as an actual deck, or even REMOTELY obtainable-by-the-average-person rarities (Take a guess at what I run! :V)
Vanilla Herald?Love that deck. :V
This. OTKs and FTKs (along with the, pardon the term, tourney-induced idiocy and lack of original, fun decks) have pretty much killed the... the... /social/ part of the game. I like playing against my buddies in town, but... ...I don't do tourney. And everyone there - save for one - does. Getting thrashed in a single turn isn't fun.
Your school is a bright group of people! And remind me which The Shining Darkness was? Was that, like, the second Blackwing pack that was REALLY heavy with those and Lightsworns?
Well it was mainly one guy, who ran Gadget Opression. Me, running Frogs, had no reason to object, and we already had a precedent with another friend running 3 Lumina and 3 Charge. No one's actually played yet, though, course it's only been one week. Shining Darkness was this (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/TSHD)one (the one with Ronin, who the frog loyalists blame for for Subs banning.) What pack are you talking about I don't remember any pack with both BW and LS support.
As for the deck you hate, I believe it's called Twilight(coincidence, I think not!)
(Speaking of Lightsworns, fuck the... oh... what was it.... Lightsworn/Dark-something-or-other hybrid decks that were big around back. To hell with those.)
Wow that was a rant.
To be honest (http://instantrimshot.com), I like Lightsworns. The only problem I have with them is how they can go derp, derp, double JD (I Solemn the first one only for the second one to rape my field.) and Wulf. Twilght, I also don't have a problem with, except for DAD and Gorz, who I think are BS.
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As for the deck you hate, I believe it's called Twilight(coincidence, I think not!)
To be honest (http://instantrimshot.com), I like Lightsworns. The only problem I have with them is how they can go derp, derp, double JD (I Solemn the first one only for the second one to rape my field.) and Wulf. Twilght, I also don't have a problem with, except for DAD and Gorz, who I think are BS.
TWILIGHT! That's the name!
And I don't mind, like, non-Twilight'd LS. They seem like a fun little mechanic which could also be pretty risky with the self-mill (looking at you, anything that prevents stuff from working in the graveyard - such as Necrovalley or that one card that removes stuff from play before it hits the graveyard whose name escapes me). But yeah, if I had the cash - or if they'd release a structure deck/didn't make most of the stuff absurdly hard to hunt down - I'd TOTALLY run LS.
Not Twilight. Piss on Twilight. :|
And about the set: I could very well be combining two of them and forgetting. I haven't been to a preview (or caught up on new packs) in a /while/.
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TWILIGHT! That's the name!
And I don't mind, like, non-Twilight'd LS. They seem like a fun little mechanic which could also be pretty risky with the self-mill (looking at you, anything that prevents stuff from working in the graveyard - such as Necrovalley or that one card that removes stuff from play before it hits the graveyard whose name escapes me). But yeah, if I had the cash - or if they'd release a structure deck/didn't make most of the stuff absurdly hard to hunt down - I'd TOTALLY run LS.
Not Twilight. Piss on Twilight. :|
And about the set: I could very well be combining two of them and forgetting. I haven't been to a preview (or caught up on new packs) in a /while/.
Why the twilight hate?
As for the sets, the LS stuff was:Light of Destruction(most of the stuff), Duelist Genesis(Charge of the Light Brigade), and Stardust Overdrive(janky support used by no one.)
BW stuff was: Crimson Crisis(Gale, Sirroco, Bora, Armor MAster), Raging BAttle( Shura, Whirlwind, Blizzard, BW with a shotgun), ANcient Prophecy(Vayu, other janky stuff) and The Shining Darkness(Breeze, otherwise janky stuff used by no one.)
btw, the LS got hit hard by the last list, so people don't care about them anymore. We all hate X-Sabers and maybe Infernity now.
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Why the twilight hate?
Because it's an awful book series! :V (I'll shut up.)
It's not so much a hate on the deck, but rather... Our group in town is very small, like, ten people max. And when Twilight topped something, they (most of them, anyway) immediately hopped online and netdecked it with few changes.
I guess I don't hate decks as I hate the lack of originality and sheer, tournament-mindedness anymore (luckily, that's gone down the past few months). Having two judges and several tourney-main players doesn't help.
tl;dr - I like originality opposed to everyone running the same thing. (Man I rant a lot about this game...)
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Because it's an awful book series! :V (I'll shut up.)
It's not so much a hate on the deck, but rather... Our group in town is very small, like, ten people max. And when Twilight topped something, they (most of them, anyway) immediately hopped online and netdecked it with few changes.
I guess I don't hate decks as I hate the lack of originality and sheer, tournament-mindedness anymore (luckily, that's gone down the past few months). Having two judges and several tourney-main players doesn't help.
tl;dr - I like originality opposed to everyone running the same thing. (Man I rant a lot about this game...)
I know what you mean. That's why my favorite archetypes are frogs and Fortune Ladies. They have tons of room for techs and originality. I really liked how you could make several different variants with frogs(Black Garden Frogs ftw.)
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I know what you mean. That's why my favorite archetypes are frogs and Fortune Ladies. They have tons of room for techs and originality. I really liked how you could make several different variants with frogs(Black Garden Frogs ftw.)
That. So, so much.
And how are Fortune Ladies? One of the aforementioned tourney-player-but-original-as-hell people was trying a deck with them and he never told me about how it ran. (I'm also a fan of Geminis and Psychics. And Gravekeepers are cool too.)
... we need, like, catch-up packs for the later-than-crap support coming out for some'a the archetypes (GK, Samurais are getting some new stuff next pack I think). And some archetypes (Hi, Toons!) just need support because they're cool as hell.
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That. So, so much.
And how are Fortune Ladies? One of the aforementioned tourney-player-but-original-as-hell people was trying a deck with them and he never told me about how it ran. (I'm also a fan of Geminis and Psychics. And Gravekeepers are cool too.)
... we need, like, catch-up packs for the later-than-crap support coming out for some'a the archetypes (GK, Samurais are getting some new stuff next pack I think). And some archetypes (Hi, Toons!) just need support because they're cool as hell.
Well, the varient I use of uses Future Vision to slow down the opponent. It's a Chaos build, kind of, teching in Chaos Sorc, Cydra and Rai-oh. It's Fortune Ladies, so it has nice draw power though Water and Fortune's Future. It's a control-oriented build, so it uses many traps.
I heard there was a more aggressive varient somewhere, but I don't know much about it. FL's tech room comes from their awesome draw power.
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I went to a Flea Market and one of the booths had cards for sale. I managed to pick up several things (Like a second Command Knight) so my Deck no longer sucks as much as it used to without Raigeki. Before it was only a very loosely defined deck for command knight Now I have a chance to get it onto the field reliably. Also got 3 CED's that Suikama mentioned unintentionally.
Also got A Buster Blader because I remembered when that was like the best monster I used in my deck and I traded like 20 Cards for 1
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rainbow_Dragon
Needs more paragraphs.
Also I watched someone play a match with a Toad deck it was confusing.
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I went to a Flea Market and one of the booths had cards for sale. I managed to pick up several things (Like a second Command Knight) so my Deck no longer sucks as much as it used to without Raigeki. Before it was only a very loosely defined deck for command knight Now I have a chance to get it onto the field reliably. Also got 3 CED's that Suikama mentioned unintentionally.
Also got A Buster Blader because I remembered when that was like the best monster I used in my deck and I traded like 20 Cards for 1
Needs more paragraphs.
Also I watched someone play a match with a Toad deck it was confusing.
Could you post your deck? We might be able to help you. I'm pretty sure everyone's polite.
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I could likely do that in a few minutes i'm trying to get it closer to 40 cards and within legal limits.
EDIT: I think I got it all legal now but I can see some huge issues with it. Some things I don't have 3 of due to a lack of the cards.
Monster Cards
Freed the Matchless General x1
Command Knight x2
Dark Blade x1
Warrior Dai Grepher x3
Field Commander Rahz x1
Marauding Captain x3
Obnoxious Celtic Gaurd x3
Blindly Loyal Goblin x1
Gearfried the Iron Knight x1
Copycat x1
Mask of Darkness x1
Man Eater Bug x1
Mataza the Zapper x1
Magic/Spell Cards
Reinforcement of the Army x1
The Warrior Returning Alive x2
Swords of Revealing Light x1
Horn of the Unicorn x1
Mystical Space Typhoon x1
Axe of Despair x1
Dark Core x1
Giant Trunade x1
Nobleman of Crossout x2
Magical Mallet x1
Fusion sword Marasame Blade x1
Trap Cards
Blast with Chain x1
Dust Tornado x1
Trap Jammer x1
Trap Hole x2
Compulsory Evacuation Device x2
Kozaky's Self-Destruct Button x1
Spell Sheild Type-8 x1
Fusion Deck
XYZ Dragon Cannon because theres no rule saying I can't have it just because :V
I know it's not very good but it looks like it's a start...
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I'm going from memory on some of the effects because I'm too lazy to look 'em up, but it looks good so far.
I'll, if you don't mind of course, pass the list on to a buddy who had one helluva warrior deck way-back-before-he-jumped-to-Geminis-and/or-Koaki'meru.
(If you can have another Reinforcements of the Army, I'd recommend it, just because it's a very nice card.)
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It was moved to limited it seems.
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I could likely do that in a few minutes i'm trying to get it closer to 40 cards and within legal limits.
EDIT: I think I got it all legal now but I can see some huge issues with it. Some things I don't have 3 of due to a lack of the cards.
Monster Cards
Freed the Matchless General x1
Command Knight x2
Dark Blade x1
Warrior Dai Grepher x3
Field Commander Rahz x1
Marauding Captain x3
Obnoxious Celtic Gaurd x3
Blindly Loyal Goblin x1
Gearfried the Iron Knight x1
Copycat x1
Mask of Darkness x1
Man Eater Bug x1
Mataza the Zapper x1
Magic/Spell Cards
Reinforcement of the Army x1
The Warrior Returning Alive x2
Swords of Revealing Light x1
Horn of the Unicorn x1
Mystical Space Typhoon x1
Axe of Despair x1
Dark Core x1
Giant Trunade x1
Nobleman of Crossout x2
Magical Mallet x1
Fusion sword Marasame Blade x1
Trap Cards
Blast with Chain x1
Dust Tornado x1
Trap Jammer x1
Trap Hole x2
Compulsory Evacuation Device x2
Kozaky's Self-Destruct Button x1
Spell Sheild Type-8 x1
Fusion Deck
XYZ Dragon Cannon because theres no rule saying I can't have it just because :V
I know it's not very good but it looks like it's a start...
It's way too scattered tbh(I'm looking at this from a competitive standpoint). Other than Warriors, it's not specific enough for you to add decent support. You shouldn't use normal mons and equips unless you use their support. If you're willing to spend money, you could get that Gemini deck, (it has both vanilla and equip support.) Also, what banlist is this for?
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It was moved to limited it seems.
Well damn.
Yeah, that's kinda what I thought.
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It's way too scattered tbh(I'm looking at this from a competitive standpoint). Other than Warriors, it's not specific enough for you to add decent support. You shouldn't use normal mons and equips unless you use their support. If you're willing to spend money, you could get that Gemini deck, (it has both vanilla and equip support.) Also, what banlist is this for?
It's for advanced (Where it traditional i'd have thrown Raigeki in there) and as for beeing scattered and using vanilla cards i've always had to rely on getting my cards cheaply. What does this Gemini Deck even have and how would it help me make this better? Also whats it's cost around?
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Around 10-12 bucks and...
Here it is. (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Structure_Deck_17:_Warrior%27s_Strike)
To explain, though. It's got two nice warriors (Phoenix Gearfried and Evocator Chevalier), and some VERY nice spells and traps (Divine Sword Phoenix Blade, Sakuretsu Armor, Dark Bribe, etc).
And probably more stuff that I'm missing.
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That actually looks pretty good for what i'm trying to make. I'll have to try and find it at a store and buy it sometime.
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Not sure how lucky you'll been, since it's a wee bit old (I'm /wanting/ to say that the last deck released was the new Machina/Machiner/whatever they're called), but that's one of the few decks I ever really planned on picking up.
Good luck with findin' it, editing your deck, etc, etc!
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To help you decide and not waste money on cards you won't use, I'll suggest Yugioh Virtual Desktop, Duel Monsters Genesis, and Yugioh Network.
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Yeah in fact I should likely stick to playing on these and not buy stuff because no one in my area even plays as far as I know and i only got re interested due to this topic.
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To help you decide and not waste money on cards you won't use, I'll suggest Yugioh Virtual Desktop, Duel Monsters Genesis, and Yugioh Network.
Oh, cool, YGO has a version of Magic Workstation.
I may start playing again for the fish.
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To help you decide and not waste money on cards you won't use, I'll suggest Yugioh Virtual Desktop, Duel Monsters Genesis, and Yugioh Network.
I've tried YVD and... ehhhh... too manual; how're the other two?
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I've tried YVD and... ehhhh... too manual; how're the other two?
Yeah, I can't get YVD to work too. Duel Monsters Genesis lets you use anime cards, which you may or may not like. Network is a lot easier to use, although it has its occasional glitch.
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Lol Animu cardz.
They just make stuff up and go with it half the time although a few seemed okay.
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Lol Animu cardz.
They just make stuff up and go with it half the time although a few seemed okay.
I feel bad, because I don't really have anything to add to this comment...
I'll give Network a shot sometime, though. Thanks!
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Pikbak, you might like this (http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/6492128/), assuming Konami doesn't screw it up.
btw, for the You WA BAN group, is the banned thing added automatically, or do you have to make it yourself?
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Pikbak, you might like this (http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/6492128/), assuming Konami doesn't screw it up.
btw, for the You WA BAN group, is the banned thing added automatically, or do you have to make it yourself?
You make one yourself.
Also goddammit Fabled Raven why can't I get you ;_;
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You make one yourself.
Also goddammit Fabled Raven why can't I get you ;_;
Ok, that's what I thought. Now my only question is how do I find the Banned text then?
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Pikbak, you might like this (http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/6492128/), assuming Konami doesn't screw it up.
... ... Screw this up, Konami, and I am coming to Japan to stab you in the head. :| (Yes. The entire company; I will make it a head to stab if needed.)
Oh holy crap, it's an Agent deck! Konami! Bring this over in all its glory!
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Ok, that's what I thought. Now my only question is how do I find the Banned text then?
ahahah oh god your avatar is amazing
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ahahah oh god your avatar is amazing
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On-topic: That deck may actually get me to start playing regularly again.
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... ... Screw this up, Konami, and I am coming to Japan to stab you in the head. :| (Yes. The entire company; I will make it a head to stab if needed.)
Oh holy crap, it's an Agent deck! Konami! Bring this over in all its glory!
I hope they put Solemn in it. That and Warning. It just fits. Reprint Christia, Meltiel, eg. That might make up for all the fairy screwing they've been doing. What I would really like is if they made an A Legendary Ocean Card for Sactuary in the Sky.
ahahah oh god your avatar is amazing
Thanks. Here's (http://www.photofunia.com/effects/burning_photo/)Here's the template I used.
I just got one of those new tins.
How'd I do?
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Make a Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan deck :3
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I hope they put Solemn in it. That and Warning. It just fits.
What I would really like is if they made an A Legendary Ocean Card for Sactuary in the Sky.
Warning? (Sorry, haven't been around the community in a few months sooo I'm totally lost with new stuff...)
And by ALO for fairies... do you mean level reduction or some other, really awesome effect?
Make a Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan deck :3
This man knows what he's talkin' about.
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Make a Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan deck :3
I've always wanted to, but I'm not sure how well it would work. If I made it now, it would be some weird Phantom of Chaos synchro thing that techs Black Garden(because it sounds awesome.) I'm currently waiting for support. In the mean time, she makes a nice bookmarks(as all shinies so :3)
Warning? (Sorry, haven't been around the community in a few months sooo I'm totally lost with new stuff...)
And by ALO for fairies... do you mean level reduction or some other, really awesome effect?
This man knows what he's talkin' about.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Solemn_Warning
Would make up for them bumping it from a common to an Ultra rare. As for ALO for faires, I mean awesome effect, or at least one that's relevent. I would like a use besides "crap" who enables Meltiel lulz.
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Solemn_Warning
Would make up for them bumping it from a common to an Ultra rare. As for ALO for faires, I mean awesome effect, or at least one that's relevent. I would like a use besides "crap" who enables Meltiel lulz.
It was a common in the Japanese pack? Damnit, Konami! Stop screwing fairies (and fairy-looking things) over!
But holy crap that is awesome.
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Not only that but it's hella hard to get. I've pulled so many freaking Draco Esquites and other Ultras but not a single Warning...
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Not only that but it's hella hard to get. I've pulled so many freaking Draco Esquites and other Ultras but not a single Warning...
Gah, hated trying to get lesser-printed ultras/etc.
My buddy was like that with... Minefield Driller, I think it was; had everything else in the pack but that damn monster.
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I just buy singles now. It's cheaper :V
Onlyl exceptions are tins and SE packs, as I'm guarenteed to get something good and playing the lottery is fun.
*Looks at Goyo he got a pack*
*remembers stolen Ehren that was also gotten in a pack*
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I just buy singles now. It's cheaper :V
You are a smart, smart man. (Unless it's one of those insanely jacked-up-because-of-the-meta cards that run for a few hundred or so. To hell with paying that kind'a price for somethin' yer likely only gonna use during this format)
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You are a smart, smart man. (Unless it's one of those insanely jacked-up-because-of-the-meta cards that run for a few hundred or so. To hell with paying that kind'a price for somethin' yer likely only gonna use during this format)
I'm afraid to pay more than $5 for a card.
Exceptions include:
Black Rose
and that's about it.
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Oh yeah, the new banlist.
I have to say, my friends and I were quite impressed with Dark Hole and cutting Heavy and Brain Control (dammit!)
Oh, and I can make fun of them again. They didn't touch Machina Fortress. 8)
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Man my friend is good at trading.
Four Naturia Pineapples, three Fabled Ravens, and two Solemn warnings oh man :getdown:
Now we have pretty much every card in Duelist Revolution :V :V :V
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I'm afraid to pay more than $5 for a card.
Exceptions include:
Black Rose
and that's about it.
I don't mind going slightly higher, but I tend not to because, like Suikama, my buddy is good at trading/is very generous when it comes to handing crap my way. (Also, holy crap, what did he trade for those?)
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And Lazario wins YCS :]
Oh man Debris Dragon in an X-saber deck why did I never think of this before.
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So tried to use google to find out if they ever made Tourney legal versions of those "god Cards" from the anime. Google gave me this http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_tell_if_yugioh_god_cards_are_real
On a side note it looks like they did but they look pretty useless.
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So tried to use google to find out if they ever made Tourney legal versions of those "god Cards" from the anime. Google gave me this http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_tell_if_yugioh_god_cards_are_real
On a side note it looks like they did but they look pretty useless.
Yeah, they were pretty disappointing. Obelisk can be useful, you could probably build a deck around him(Obelisk Garden sounds pro), but Ra, not so much. They completely took away everthing that made him awesome. Dump and SS? Nope, can't be SSed. Ok, that could be broken, it doesn't even get the attack points of what you used to summon it, and next to no protection( they could at least have: your opponent may not use book of Moon on this.) It's other effect can also only be used when it's summoned, so you can't go for Phantom plays either. Just one big disappointment. I hope Slifer doesn't suck as much.
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Are they making a tourney legal Slifer/Osiris?
Also, new Divine Beasts are coming out next...? pack. Loki, Odin, and Thor. All super-crazy-broken synchros.
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Are they making a tourney legal Slifer/Osiris?
Also, new Divine Beasts are coming out next...? pack. Loki, Odin, and Thor. All super-crazy-broken synchros.
Not really, the only one remotely close to overpowered is Odin, and maybe Loki. All decent decks nowadays run many different ways of removal(you can thank stardust dragon for that .) For all the resources I'm putting in to the synchro, I would rather go for Trish or have Goyo and some other monster on the field.
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Still Odin's anti-target effect is pretty ballin', other than the fact that it doesn't protect him from Brionac :V
Anyways if you want a broken card, look no futher than GRANNEL (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_Emperor_Grannel_Infinity)
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>> I will openly admit that I didn't read the effect text on the three new gods, just because I got ADD'd at the time. But, they're the 'big guys' of this set and those tend to be broken. So I put 2+2 together and got 29.6!
Oh hey, Grannel looks like somethin' out of Gurren La- Oh my god!
That effect! Why! Thank you for redefining my definition of 'broken.'
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Still Odin's anti-target effect is pretty ballin', other than the fact that it doesn't protect him from Brionac :V
Anyways if you want a broken card, look no futher than GRANNEL (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_Emperor_Grannel_Infinity)
I forgot his anti-target effect, he might be good, but being able to be Brioed sends him down a bit.
As for Machine Emporers, they don't miss the timing, so lolScraps.
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Black Rose Dragon/Dark Hole
Grannel
Limiter Removal
Game :/
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Black Rose Dragon/Dark Hole
Grannel
Limiter Removal
Game :/
... i really hope Grannel and Dark Hole are /never/ usable in the same format/banlist...
I mean, Black Rose is a pain in the ass, but that at least takes some WORK to get out...
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Well, we may not have to worry about it, but the OCG may not be so lucky.
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So yeah A local store has like 14 of those Warrior Structure decks at like 7 dollars once I actually have some spending money i'll need to pick one up.
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That's pretty nice.
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It appears that the Polar Gods have been nerfed.
http://shriek.twoday.net/
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It appears that the Polar Gods have been nerfed.
http://shriek.twoday.net/
That was to be expected. Odin's effect was broke in the anime.
*checks link*
The fact that generic tuners are not allowed anymore disappoints me.
Also, the Attribute and Type change was disappointing, but not that much.
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Generic tuners aren't allowed for the Polar Gods or in general?
(Also a bit sad to see the type/attribute changed, but eh.)
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Not for the Polar Gods. The restriction isn't be too bad (heck, actually I embrace it, synchros are too splashable IMO,) the the fact that the resurrections require you remove a tuner "Polar Star Spirit" makes this lame. First, I the requirement was necessary (except for Odin, I can him causing trouble,) the it's just too specific. "Polar"(6 members) would have been perfect, Polar star spirit,(2 members) eh..no. But they had to specify that it be a tuner(1 member.)
It's so lame. too much work/risk for so little gain. Why would i off three monsters to summon this beatstick that's scared of Bottomless,D-Prision, and Compulsory, cards everyone and their mom is running. Even when it dies, I still run the risk of getting crow'ed/solemned/Warning'd, all of which see common play. If I really wanted to sack three monsters, I could go for Trish, so even if they crap on it, there's a better chance that I won't lose advantage.
The attribute thing doesn't bother me. They didn't deserve it anyway. Compare the Ragnarok duel to any duel with God cards. Gods cards completely raped everything, the person barely had to lift a finger. Now look at the ragnarok and how 5D have an out to it nearly every turn(even if they come back from battle, it still takes way coolness,) forcing Ragnakrok to protect it every 5 seconds.
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Stall Deck vs Lightsworns is the best matchup ever
Watch them squrm as they drop two JDs, thinking they won, only to be stopped by Waboku and Threatning roar several times in a row resulting in a deck out :smug:
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Honestly... wow. I have a deck somewhere, but no clue if anything in it is banned or w/e. I haved even touched the thing in a few years, and i think my best card was St. Joan with ATK/DEF of 2800/2500 or sumthin like that.
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Stall Deck vs Lightsworns is the best matchup ever
Watch them squrm as they drop two JDs, thinking they won, only to be stopped by Waboku and Threatning roar several times in a row resulting in a deck out :smug:
Is it a coincidence that you reminded me of this wonderful piece of art right here? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnUhXJ1h6I) :V
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So yeah I actually was able to pick up Warriors Strike and some other 3 pack of things and another card that gave me a Kuraz the Light Monarch today. I think I could make a better deck if I just had more of the generic cards from Warriors Strike.
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The light monarch is pretty bad, since it essentially gives back the cards it destroys.
It also can't attack first turn giving your opponent a chance to retaliate with the cards you just gave them.
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Kuraz isn't that bad. You can try to make a drawing engine with him, though since they banned Premature Burial...
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You're better off just going straight for card advantage with Caius or Raiza :V
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True. Though I'm talking about SS loops(they don't work with Caius or Raiza.)
Do you think Kuraz was the start of a new crappy batch of monarchs?
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Well considering how Delg is totally useless... :V
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Well considering how Delg is totally useless... :V
That's what they call it now... :/
That name is ugly. At least the art is cool.
In other news...5Ds is getting a new theme and it's going to be by Masaaki Endoh again. :toot:
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FUCKING SIX SAMURAI
HOW DO THEY WORK
OH GOD
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With all the new support for Six Samurais, they're bound to be the next meta!
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This reminds me despite the fact I slowly get more cards for a Deck I haven't actually made it yet. A few weeks ago I managed to get Glifford the Legend at a local Flea Market. Also is Gearfried the Swordmaster even worth it? It looks like incuding Gearfried the Iron Knight would be detrimental to the deck I want to make.
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With all the new support for Six Samurais, they're bound to be the next meta!
It's like X-Saber, Blackwings, and Infernity had a massive orgy and this is thier baby
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How do they compare to Scraps and Fabled, haven't played for a while, but they seemed pretty OP.
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This reminds me despite the fact I slowly get more cards for a Deck I haven't actually made it yet. A few weeks ago I managed to get Glifford the Legend at a local Flea Market. Also is Gearfried the Swordmaster even worth it? It looks like incuding Gearfried the Iron Knight would be detrimental to the deck I want to make.
None of them are useful.
Checked the True/Legendary Six Samurai cards. They seem insane. Have they ever tried to make a good archetype that isn't based on swarming or Synchro-ing?
I don't know how they compare to Scraps and Fableds, though. Might make a test dck on Trade Cards Online.
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None of them are useful.
Checked the True/Legendary Six Samurai cards. They seem insane. Have they ever tried to make a good archetype that isn't based on swarming or Synchro-ing?
I don't know how they compare to Scraps and Fableds, though. Might make a test dck on Trade Cards Online.
Do OTK decks count? :V
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None of them are useful.
Checked the True/Legendary Six Samurai cards. They seem insane. Have they ever tried to make a good archetype that isn't based on swarming or Synchro-ing?
I don't know how they compare to Scraps and Fableds, though. Might make a test dck on Trade Cards Online.
There's Herald, though I became bored with it, it was basically and OTK deck, the only difference being able to see your opponent squirm when you win. tbh, archetypes as whole bore me. Most of the decks I play aren't archetype based, or if they are, they have tons of room for tech. Only exception is Morphtronics, because DIAL ON!!!!
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Best counter for Herald is TURRET WARRIOR :smug:
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Gravekeepers just won YCS ahahahahahahahaha
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Ever since 'toad was banned, frogs have become boring to me, and nothing has filled its shoes. I tried fortune ladies, but they just aren't the same. This is what I'm going to try for the current format.
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Just something I've always wanted to do.
Deck(42 cards)
Monsters(16)
3|Abpf|Battle Fader
3|Stbl|Swift Scarecrow
3|Sovr|Zero Gardna
3|Drev|Wattlemur
1|Pp01|Marshmallon
1|Dlg1|Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
2|Lodt|Golden Ladybug
1|Psv|Gravity Bind
Spells(5)
1|Ast|Level Limit - Area B
1|Lob|Swords of Revealing Light
1|Sdj|Scapegoat
2|Mrl|Mystical Space Typhoon
Traps(19)
3|Fet|Threatening Roar
2|Mfc|Thunder of Ruler
3|Sdp|Waboku
1|Mrd|Mirror Force
1|Mrd|Solemn Judgment
3|Gx04|Dark Bribe
2|Dcr|Skill Drain
1|Dpct|Starlight Road
3|Drev|Solemn Warning
1|Lon|Torrential Tribute
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2|Pgd|Book of Moon
2|Mfc|Neko Mane King
2|Drev|Effect Veiler
1|Lod|Royal Oppression
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All that stall and no Final Countdown??
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All that stall and no Final Countdown??
It wouldn't as amusing if it had Final Countdown in it. This is purely for the lulz.
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Hey, Mystia what do you think of the structure deck (http://shriek.twoday.net/)? Tethys is going the fairy allure.
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Common Krisyta? Something makes me think they're gonna do some douchebaggery here and cut that one out :V
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Have they done that before? Anyways, we still haven't dragunities.
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Have they done that before? Anyways, we still haven't dragunities.
Solemn Judgment was a common in at least two structure decks >___>
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I think they should put WArning in as a Common to make up for what they did. Think those two will be in the 3 pack sets?
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Warning was SUPPOSED to be a common, so I doubt they'll change it back anytime soon.
Also I'm more concerned about freaking Pot of duality. 150$ for a card that you need in threes? No thanks. It's not needed in every deck sure, but it makes it a pain to make those decks that do need it.
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Warning was SUPPOSED to be a common, so I doubt they'll change it back anytime soon.
Also I'm more concerned about freaking Pot of duality. 150$ for a card that you need in threes? No thanks. It's not needed in every deck sure, but it makes it a pain to make those decks that do need it.
I think it will be released in one of the 3-pack sets, or maybe a Gold Series set, along Warning, and some old crap no one wants.and then banned
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PoD is hardly gamebreaking :V It just increases consistency of decks that don't really special summon.
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PoD is hardly gamebreaking :V It just increases consistency of decks that don't really special summon.
Which is pretty much everything. One could argue something similar for Pot of Greed.
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I guess, but it's not nearly as versitile and it actually has drawbacks, not to mention your opponent gets to see what card you get so if you pull a Mirror Force or Honest they'll be ready, or they could even mind crush you. Plus it's not even that great of a topdeck since any traps you get with it will be known to the opponent, and any powerful monsters you get can't be special summoned. Normally draw cards are used to speed up decks, but the no SS and one PoD per turn limitations slow things down to balance out the card.
Obviously it's a good card, but it's not game breaking like PoG.
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I guess, but it's not nearly as versitile and it actually has drawbacks, not to mention your opponent gets to see what card you get so if you pull a Mirror Force or Honest they'll be ready, or they could even mind crush you. Plus it's not even that great of a topdeck since any traps you get with it will be known to the opponent, and any powerful monsters you get can't be special summoned. Normally draw cards are used to speed up decks, but the no SS and one PoD per turn limitations slow things down to balance out the card.
Obviously it's a good card, but it's not game breaking like PoG.
I guess. Personally, I don't find PoG that bad. It's only as good as what it can draw. I think it would be okay at 1. I would rather have it Dark Hole, at least.