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Title: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on April 27, 2009, 06:06:04 PM
Sometimes, even though you believe you are playing quite well, there is one particular enemy against who everything seems to go wrong. The most ridiculous attacks bedazzle you, the simplest spellcards never get captured and "FFS, WHY ISN'T MY BLOODY BUTTON BOMB WORKING?!?!?!"
This is where you can rage about and/or beg for tips from those who can take down the beast that haunts you.


And since I'm starting, RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE @ Youmu in PCB. It's amazing, she kills me twice as much as Yuyuko and is being the greatest obstacle to my first good ending (Damn, I might end up killing Kaguya first if things stay like that). She's even worse than Stage 4, which seems to have terrible curse properties (with the bombs simply refusing to be used). I've been practising PCB stage 5 but sometimes I can barely make it through (Hell, you start the practice with max lives!). Curiously enough, I'm sort of getting the hang of most of her spells but, oh gods, her normal attack barrage... Those green and yellow balls are my absolute doom. It's a shame Marisa only gets two Sparks per life...
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Arcengal on April 27, 2009, 07:16:41 PM
Orin Nah, probably Kaguya. Imperishable Night is a fun game, but when you're trying to break your high score and 300 million points is based on 5 spells that you can ALWAYS beat in spell practice but you ALWAYS mess up during runs...

Bleh.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
Satori hates me and everything I stand for. There's two reasons I'm never trying SA lunatic again: I want a better computer before I even consider it and I'm sick of Satori smacking life after life from my stock.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zengeku on April 27, 2009, 08:02:40 PM
I get your feelings with Youmu. Its the same way with me. Except for me its the entirity of PCB that destroys me. The symptoms match at least. The simple spellcards get failed, the bomb button never works and in my case it feels as if the entire control scheme and movement speed are working against me. To top it off it feels as if its only PCB its happening in.

So discounting PCB i would say that my current arch-nemesis is Koishi. She always destroys me at Subterranean Rose and i'm pretty sure its difficulty is nothing compared to other stuff i have done. That spell as well as Super Ego and Embers of Love are keeping me away from victory. How i hate that phase of beating extra bosses. The "learning how spells work" phase. It isn't as necessary during a regular game as you can usually just bomb past a spellcard you don't understand and return to grind it out later when you feel like it.

I don't hate Koishi for it though. If i did that i would be a monster and a sore loser.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on April 27, 2009, 08:19:41 PM
You people are complaining but at least you have finished SA. I never got past Orin (and usually don't even get that far XD)
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Drake on April 27, 2009, 08:43:21 PM
I don't really have any particular troubles with any particular boss. Koishi, I guess.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on April 27, 2009, 08:51:26 PM
I don't really have any particular troubles with any particular boss.

Showoff  ;D
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Drake on April 27, 2009, 08:56:44 PM
I mean I don't specifically have troubles with one boss more than another.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: SP on April 27, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
I am comically terrible at Imperishable Shooting.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Azinth on April 27, 2009, 09:18:51 PM
Chen.  Some of the most rage-inducing danmaku I've ever had the displeasure of playing.  I've had to start over my runs so many times because of those mind-rape spell cards of hers, that whenever I hear that god-forsaken theme song I just want to punch something.  Even though her last spell has kinda grown on me.

I was also going to mention Marie from SSG, but after today, my grievances against her have been forgiven ;D.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Arcengal on April 27, 2009, 09:29:07 PM
Nah, I'm changing mine following my attempts to play StB.

Remilia.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Doomsday on April 27, 2009, 09:46:19 PM
Orin.....fuck you Orin........
oh, and fuck you Yugi
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on April 27, 2009, 09:46:29 PM
SoEW Marisa
LLS Marisa
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Gpop on April 27, 2009, 09:47:37 PM
I don't hate a boss. I hate myself for sucking so much.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on April 27, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
Chen.  Some of the most rage-inducing danmaku I've ever had the displeasure of playing.

What's that Lassie? Immortal Sage Rumbling is just bullshit?!?!


I don't hate a boss. I hate myself for sucking so much.

Well, yeah, that's sort of the point (with some exceptions (Orin)), but that doesn't change the boss' condition as your arch-nemesis.
"So, Sakuya... we meet again...**pshoom**"

Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 10:45:54 PM
Oh, Chen too. Stupid little cat is way too difficult for stage 2, and it's very easy to screw up. Plus not only is Kimontonkou a really nasty and random spell card, but I always forget how to say it. :(
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Azinth on April 27, 2009, 10:50:54 PM
Yeah, I personally find Kimontonkou and Pheonix Spread Wings to be almost just as hard as anything Alice throws at you in stage 3.  Nothing like having a 1/4 capture rate for stage 2 spells...

BTW, try dodging Immortal Sage's Rumbling by moving to the sides of the screen.  Bullets are less dense there.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: AntKiller on April 27, 2009, 11:14:32 PM
All Reimu's.. since TH03...
I can't.. I just can't.. That bi***!
>.>
srsly, I see her and I totally freak out... haha
What?! Elly? Yuka? They are easy near Reimu's Rage!
Marisa on IN? pfft, easy...
but Reimu...

Quote from: Youmu
Reimu, kisama.. SORE DEMO NINGEN KA?!?!?!? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQt8fDU7tQY)
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on April 27, 2009, 11:27:55 PM
Chen.  Some of the most rage-inducing danmaku I've ever had the displeasure of playing.

What's that Lassie? Immortal Sage Rumbling is just bullshit?!?!

Oh, Chen too. Stupid little cat is way too difficult for stage 2, and it's very easy to screw up.

So, so glad I'm not alone.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Sodium on April 27, 2009, 11:31:17 PM
What's that Lassie? Immortal Sage Rumbling is just bullshit?!?!


Well, yeah, that's sort of the point (with some exceptions (Orin)), but that doesn't change the boss' condition as your arch-nemesis.
"So, Sakuya... we meet again...**pshoom**"
Hm, are you talking about Normal? If so, that's some pretty easy stuff. Now, Hard and Lunatic...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Chen, and PCB Alice. That's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on April 27, 2009, 11:51:02 PM
Hm, are you talking about Normal? If so, that's some pretty easy stuff. Now, Hard and Lunatic...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Chen, and PCB Alice. That's pretty much it.
QFAT.  (quoted for absolute truth)
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on April 27, 2009, 11:55:55 PM
Hm, are you talking about Normal?

There's no Rumbling on the other H and L. It's the one with the white small flake-thingies. I have a serious problem with those (none with the rest though).
But yeah, I'm still quite a noob struggling to get my first good ending. There's a high chance it'll be PCB, but I'll have to practise stage 5 a LOT
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 11:58:25 PM
Youmu's not so bad after you practice enough, except for rage inducing Hell God Sword and D: inducing Asura Sword.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on April 28, 2009, 12:04:09 AM
Youmu's not so bad after you practice enough, except for rage inducing Hell God Sword and D: inducing Asura Sword.

Swords are fine(ish), I just can't handle her balls XD
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 12:25:59 AM
Youmu's not so bad after you practice enough, except for rage inducing Hell God Sword and D: inducing Asura Sword.
Asura's really not that bad.  I mean, I capped it today.  It wasn't even ridiculous luck.

God's Flashing Slash is complete BS, though.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Mobius on April 28, 2009, 12:27:58 AM
Yuki & Mai have been ruining me lately. Weirdly, Yumeko barely bothers me. At least, not half as much as Sakuya... or Remilia... or anybody from EoSD except Rumia, Cirno, and China Meiling.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2009, 12:29:29 AM
Capturing something once doesn't mean much. I've captured really hard cards without much effort, then come back and be unable to capture for a long time.

Yuki & Mai have been ruining me lately. Weirdly, Yumeko barely bothers me. At least, not half as much as Sakuya... or Remilia... or anybody from EoSD except Rumia, Cirno, and China Meiling.

I suppose Yumeko could count considering how every run of MS basically boils down to how well you handle her, but she doesn't rape me any more than she does anybody else.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 02:09:51 AM
Capturing something once doesn't mean much. I've captured really hard cards without much effort, then come back and be unable to capture for a long time.
I accept your challenge.  I'll be back later.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: bjw on April 28, 2009, 02:19:59 AM
China and Patchy. I just don't get it :/
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Mizuki-chan on April 28, 2009, 02:25:09 AM
Sakuya from EoSD it's just her knifes that come back at you from every where. I have to waste my bombs to clear her. Then I face Remila and then die really fast.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: DarkslimeZ on April 28, 2009, 02:27:18 AM
My arch-nemeses are Patchoulli and Aya(MoF)(since I couldn't pick just one).

Patchoulli is a favorite character though, so it's hard to hate her. ;-;
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 03:21:00 AM
I accept your challenge.  I'll be back later.
Took me three tries to cap it again, man.  A few tries later, I capture both Youmu's midboss opener...and Components of Konpaku.

Yeah, I should really really really 1cc PCB Hard already.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: cleartailcat on April 28, 2009, 05:11:40 AM
cirno. on easy. everyone else is fine.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on April 28, 2009, 06:48:37 AM
I am comically terrible at Imperishable Shooting.
Same here, actually.

I'd say PCB Alice, but after What The Hell runs against her I'm somewhat comfortable with her except for a couple of attacks (mainly her opener and Benevolent. Also the latter half of PCB stage 3).

So I'm going to go with:
- Midboss Chen/Ran's noncard
- Orin's boss opener
- Basically any attack where the colour differential between the bullets and the background is small enough such that I CAN'T SEE THE DAMN BULLETS. Basically my eyesight is not the best and I am comically bad at some attacks that everyone else finds trivial because my eyes fail to distinguish the bullets from the actual background :/
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 07:17:17 AM
I am comically terrible at Imperishable Shooting.
Hey, I die at least a couple times every time I decide to try again on the first wave.  Still haven't captured it yet.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: AM on April 28, 2009, 07:50:53 AM
Remilia. I always end up against red wall and get cornered. Hitbox patch helps a bit, but I still end up bombing half of her spellcards.

Most of Orin's spells are also total bullshit at harder levels.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Dragoshi on April 28, 2009, 07:54:32 AM
SoEW Marisa

This. This so goddamned much. (Oddly enough, though, LLS Marisa isn't TOO bad for me, but... eh.)
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Kefit on April 28, 2009, 08:00:27 AM
Mystia's final non-spellcard.

I mean seriously what the fuck.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on April 28, 2009, 08:34:25 AM
Ohhhh boy.

- Patchouli in EoSD. I must be the only player in history who has to bomb both Non-Directional Laser nonspells on pretty much EVERY run. It's annoying, because it's also one of the most entertaining fights in the game so I can't be THAT angry at it.
- The Prismrivers. Dear GOD, the Prismrivers.
- Marisa in IN. Why do they expect me to fit through gaps that freaking small on STAGE 4?
- Aya in MoF, but that happens with pretty much everyone.
- As has been mentioned by several people before, GODDAMN ORIN.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Mr_Bob on April 28, 2009, 08:58:25 AM
Sakuya's non-spell cards are Arch-Nemesis for me on Hard, especially when I've accumulated some rank.

Oh Sakuya ... now let's begin. Both of us sinners, let us dance the dance of death.
*Cut in Luna Dial*
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: LHCling on April 28, 2009, 09:01:34 AM
...what's wrong with Orin? She's quite easy (even at Hard Mode). Maybe that's just me though.

Regardless, Cirno @ Lunatic. That opening attack is... ... ...annoying. Guess I'll study it more.

Also, as a close second...
Mystia's final non-spellcard.

I mean seriously what the fuck.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 28, 2009, 02:21:46 PM
Mystia's final non-spellcard.

I mean seriously what the fuck.

You have no idea how much better this post makes me feel.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Prody on April 28, 2009, 02:48:24 PM
Definitely Cirno.

Because she always ruins my EoSD lunatic runs by casuing me to reset.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: ghost333 on April 28, 2009, 03:18:08 PM
So, so glad I'm not alone.
ADD ME too especially at her last spellcard.... i restarted a lot of times for losing a life there.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Adun on April 28, 2009, 04:56:32 PM
Let's see...
I have all these rages from Lunatic that fuck up my 1cc's.

EoSD: Sakuya in general (mostly Killing Doll), Remi's Scarlet Gensokyo and last non-spell (squeezing through fast moving red bubbles on Lunatic; I can't master that for some reason)

PCB: Gotta agree on Chen, everything Youmu

IN: Marisa's Asteroid Belt, Eirin's Apollo 13 (I fail at it)

MoF: Aya and Sanae (clipdeaths galore)

SA: Orin gave me trouble on Normal 1cc long ago, but not anymore. But I still dislike fighting her. Mostly Satori, but that depends on character type anywho.

UFO: Kogasa Tatara's 2nd spell card. Seriously. Her first spell can get ugly too if you are unlucky.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 08:12:33 PM
Aya.

AYA!

GODDAMN AYA!

In my first (and strongest!) 1cc of PoFV, I died once to Shikieiki, no times to Komachi...and THREE TIMES to Aya.  Complete BS.

MoF Aya...I just unlocked the rest of Lunatic for practice today.  Aya is complete and utter crap, and Peerless Wind God pisses me off almost as much as Eternal Meek.  No, more.  Eternal Meek is a stage 6 midboss, at least.  PWG is a freakin' Stage 4 survival card of complete crap.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Omnifish on April 28, 2009, 08:22:11 PM
Aya in MoF. I can beat Sanae and Kanako fairly reliably, but for some reason I always end up losing 2/3 lives to the tengu.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on April 28, 2009, 10:27:59 PM
I'm not that bad at Aya herself (BOMBS AWAY!!!) but GODS that stage is bloody BS!
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Generalguy on April 29, 2009, 05:06:52 AM
Icicle Fall - Easy. Before I knew the safespot (noob hugging the bottom), this spellcard killed me so damned much, because actually dodging those three waves of weird angled bullets is so much harder than anything else in stage 2. And yeah, it also made me feel like a total idiot.

And I have to practice it on Normal. I usually cap it, but I forgot when I can start moving up so I only have to dodge one wave.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Arcengal on May 07, 2009, 08:25:06 PM
Non-directional laser.
Anyone's.

Oh, and Remilia, still.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Cyclone on May 07, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
Eh i mainly only play on normal, but uh:

Youmu
Marisa
Kaguya
Orin
All Extra Stage mid-bosses (Though I've pretty much figured out Sanae. Also strangely enough, Chen is harder than Ran for me)
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 07, 2009, 09:33:10 PM
Chen is harder than Ran.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Yukkuri on May 07, 2009, 09:53:16 PM
Chen is harder than Ran.
Not on extra stage. X_X
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Darkblizer on May 07, 2009, 11:30:55 PM
Ugh, Cirno on normal EoSD. Perfect freeze is so friggen random, I end up getting walled and smashed in the face with a ball. Or when they're white and they move in a random direction, I end up getting closed in on with no escape and die.

I also kinda hate 1st noncard and icicle fall but not as much as perfect freeze.

I swear, if Cirno wasn't in EoSD I would have 1cc'd it now. :(
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 08, 2009, 12:01:30 AM
Ugh, Cirno on normal EoSD. Perfect freeze is so friggen random, I end up getting walled and smashed in the face with a ball. Or when they're white and they move in a random direction, I end up getting closed in on with no escape and die.

I also kinda hate 1st noncard and icicle fall but not as much as perfect freeze.

I swear, if Cirno wasn't in EoSD I would have 1cc'd it now. :(

9 is the strongest, mate.

I actually find her hard spellcard (what's that, Frozen Columns? Or is that for PCB?) quite easier than Icicle Fall. I have a tough time with that one u.u
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on May 08, 2009, 04:28:18 AM
9 is the strongest, mate.

I actually find her hard spellcard (what's that, Frozen Columns? Or is that for PCB?) quite easier than Icicle Fall. I have a tough time with that one u.u
Hailstorm.  Frost Columns is her PCB card.  And I prefer Hailstorm too.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Azinth on May 08, 2009, 05:31:31 AM
After playing through SA again, I think I'm going to add Yamame to my shitlist.  Her opener is a big old pile of wtf, and her other attacks manage to pull a clipdeath on me every so often too.

For some reason, I always end up hating the stage 1/2 boss fights the most, as opposed to the later, more difficult ones.  Probably because by the end of a 1cc I've already fought those fights billions of times and have gotten sick of them.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on May 08, 2009, 06:36:18 PM
One word:
Ayayayaya...
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: homing curvy laser on May 10, 2009, 05:38:36 PM
Orin. I turn into a bullet magnet whenever dat cat appears. The fact that I tend to fail horribly on Satori doesn't help, either.
Patchu also tends to like beating me. Why is it that Marisa's Non-directional Laser is much easier than Patchy's ones?
Youmu made me do some awesome stuff (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=1015) in the past, but I think I can go past her now.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 10, 2009, 06:20:58 PM
Youmu made me do some awesome stuff (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=1015) in the past, but I think I can go past her now.

FFFFUUUUUUUUUU~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was most definitely NOT your lucky day u.u
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zengeku on May 17, 2009, 01:59:21 PM
I guess its not just Koishi now... Kanako too. VoWG Lunatic... the only spell of hers i can't capture.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Garlyle on May 17, 2009, 03:12:30 PM
LLS: Yuka.  Even when I know its coming, LAZORZ

MS: Yuki and Mai.  Actually, I often suck worse against Shinki, but I love fighting her so it doesn't matter to me.

EoSD: Nobody?  Oh, wait, Flandre, for the sake of Argh.  Also, Sakuya's Misdirection on Easy/Normal is, for some reason, much harder than on Hard/Lunatic

PCB: Ran.  I should honestly be able to beat her by now.  BUT NO.  Oh, and Youmu.  Why does everyone complain about Chen?  I hardly even notice that fight.

IN: Hourai Elixir can go !@#$ itself.  Nevermind Kaguya's last spells.  Everything else is fine... oh, maybe Keine being a pain, or Mokou's Fujiyama Volcano for always costing me SEVERAL bombs/lives

PoFV: SIKIEIKI ARGH I COULD BEAT LUNATIC BUT FOR YOU.  And Aya for bullcrap corner-locking due to walls of aimed bullets.

MoF: The Entire Game.  I don't get along with MoF.  Specifically?  That Waterfall.  Not even Aya, but the freaking stage itself.

SA: Orin.  Orin Orin ORIN D:< I COULD BEAT THE GAME BUT FOR YOU.  Oh, and Parsee's opener is a bit bull.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on May 17, 2009, 04:55:51 PM
Mokou's Fujiyama Volcano for always costing me SEVERAL bombs/lives
I used to have that problem.  I can send a replay of me clearing it, if you want.  Once I figured out how to do it, I started capping it around 2/3 of the time.  (The other 1/3 is because I suck.)

Oh, and Parsee's opener is a bit bull.
Wha?  My friend has horrible issues with Parsee's midboss opener too, but I've yet to find either that or her boss opener remotely difficult, even on Lunatic.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Garlyle on May 18, 2009, 03:57:17 AM
Quote
Wha?  My friend has horrible issues with Parsee's midboss opener too, but I've yet to find either that or her boss opener remotely difficult, even on Lunatic.

Mostly the boss opener, due to how far down it reaches before stopping.

Quote
I used to have that problem.  I can send a replay of me clearing it, if you want.  Once I figured out how to do it, I started capping it around 2/3 of the time.  (The other 1/3 is because I suck.)

Please do T.T I can capture almost every one of Mokou's cards... except that.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: RainfallYoshi on May 18, 2009, 04:40:10 AM
(My first post after awhile of lurking, rawr!)

It's hard to pin-point one for all of Touhou... I'll just go by game. I play on Normal.

EoSD: Sakuya. Gawd she is a pain. Her mid-boss section is just hell on me. I always end up bombing quite a bit on her spell cards too. Especially Clock Corpse and Marionette.

PCB: The Prismriver Sisters. I always end up stuck against the wall with notes smacking me in the face. It's mostly their non-spell attack patterns that screw with me.

IN: Eirin. Seriously, she's so much harder than Kaguya. All of her spell cards give me issues.

Now that I think about it though, I think Sakuya takes the cake for my arch-nemesis. She really just knows how to send a knife right into my face.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: trancehime on May 18, 2009, 06:37:30 AM
PoFV against a human player + that human player is using Reimu = you auto-lose

goddamnit Reimu is a bitch and a half even on Normal, somehow, I can defeat her on Lunatic, but it is /really/ difficult. I mean ohshit.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 18, 2009, 06:45:44 AM

Now that I think about it though, I think Sakuya takes the cake for my arch-nemesis. She really just knows how to send a knife right into my face.


That's her favourite sport, it would seem.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: theshirn on May 18, 2009, 03:53:15 PM
Please do T.T I can capture almost every one of Mokou's cards... except that.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3301

Enjoy.  Maybe I'll put up a SA Stage 2 Lunatic run later.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zengeku on May 18, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
Oh, you are supposed to pick a Nemesis for all the games hmm? Well, why not.

1-5: Don't really play these much at all but Yumeko's a real bitch.
6: Flandre. Mostly due to laziness i think.
7: Yuyuko. Her "anything from start to finish" breaks my heart.
8: Nothing really but if it had to be its got to be last words.
9: Shikieiki. The few times i have tried fighting her i always have to use continues. I don't know what goes wrong. Guess its phantasmagoria.
10: Kanako. VoWG. Its awesome and horrible simultaneously!!
11: Koishi. Most of the stuff i can think of is not allowed here but she can go somewhere where dark and very scary and evil. She can come back when she have gotten rid of the heart-missiles. And maybe the pointless filler spells such as Danmaku Paranoia and Youkai Polygraph.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 18, 2009, 10:41:52 PM

Oh, you are supposed to pick a Nemesis for all the games hmm? Well, why not.


That was some guy's idea since he is too indecisive to choose between man or womane all the bosses. As OP I can assure you, a single boss is more than fine since for being only one it must have a particularly dense portion of your boundless hate caring love
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zengeku on May 20, 2009, 10:49:46 PM
That was some guy's idea since he is too indecisive to choose between man or womane all the bosses. As OP I can assure you, a single boss is more than fine since for being only one it must have a particularly dense portion of your boundless hate caring love

While its caring love for most, in the case of the nemesis bosses its more of a feeling of friendly rivalry.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: RainfallYoshi on May 21, 2009, 05:02:20 AM
Ok, I have a new arch-nemesis and her name is Patchcouli 'effing Knowledge.

So... much... rage...
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: untitled servent on May 21, 2009, 03:01:47 PM
Almost anyone level 4 and up is the bane of my existence due to my failure at touhou. Specifically Sakuya as I always run into the side of her knives or she freezes time while I'm grazing a knife and decides to flip it into my hit, Youmu for the existence of that ball opener, and that random fairy sub boss on PCB level 3.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: SONIC BHOCOLATE STRIKER on May 21, 2009, 06:17:57 PM
Youmu.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zengeku on May 21, 2009, 07:08:39 PM
Youmu is moe... except in PCB where she is an asshole. Thank you so much for slowing time. That will surely help me getting past a wall. Let alone that slow-down gag messes up my movement speed to beyond the point of redemption. I can be in the middle of some tricky movement and then when she un-slow the time i'll be flying all over the place as i don't see it coming. I know the background is supposed to hint you to when she is unslowing the time but it doesn't really help me much.

And those openers don't help much too. I know you can do some trick in order to make it easier but it still sucks.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: SONIC BHOCOLATE STRIKER on May 22, 2009, 11:52:31 PM
Youmu is moe... except in PCB where she is an asshole. Thank you so much for slowing time. That will surely help me getting past a wall. Let alone that slow-down gag messes up my movement speed to beyond the point of redemption. I can be in the middle of some tricky movement and then when she un-slow the time i'll be flying all over the place as i don't see it coming. I know the background is supposed to hint you to when she is unslowing the time but it doesn't really help me much.

And those openers don't help much too. I know you can do some trick in order to make it easier but it still sucks.
THIS.

Also, now I know why people above the surface don't like Satori. <_< Especially when I use Marisa/Nitori, which is worse.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 23, 2009, 02:11:48 PM
Letty.

She had been nipping the bud of my score runs.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zengeku on May 24, 2009, 07:37:03 PM
THIS.

Also, now I know why people above the surface don't like Satori. <_< Especially when I use Marisa/Nitori, which is worse.

Depending on the difficulty i would say that Marisa x Nitori against Satori isn't that bad. Except for Extending Arm. I have always hated that card. I am much better at it now yes but its still not fun one bit. If i had to pick a bad Satori match it would be Marisa x Alice vs Satori. The 1st recollection spell just seems so unfair.

Letty.

She had been nipping the bud of my score runs.

Just what seems to be the problem with Letty? If you would be able to make a score run you should also be well capable of utterly destroying Letty. If it weren't for Rumia and Wriggle she would be the easiest stage 1 boss overall. She have nothing compared to Yamame and Nazrin. I would mention Minoriko too but she is only hard when she decides to play bullshit with you.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 25, 2009, 02:38:42 AM
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Just what seems to be the problem with Letty? If you would be able to make a score run you should also be well capable of utterly destroying Letty. If it weren't for Rumia and Wriggle she would be the easiest stage 1 boss overall. She have nothing compared to Yamame and Nazrin. I would mention Minoriko too but she is only hard when she decides to play bullshit with you.

Often, Letty's normal attacks pushed me to bottom of the screen. It was random, so sometimes i haven't had an escape route. Also, in my strategy, i had to withstood 5 wave of those normal attacks, without focusing. And it was stage 1, somehow my concentration was at its worst at stage 1(my bad). PCB lack of movement precision were also a huge contributing factor.

Yamame's first normal attack was also stupid, but it can be captured 100% eventually because it was always the same pattern (and no PCB button lag). Minoriko's last spell can be bombed for minimum score decrease, if she decides to play dirty. Wriggle is fun, and so does Rumia. I haven't fought many times with Nazrin.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 25, 2009, 10:10:04 AM
Depending on the difficulty i would say that Marisa x Nitori against Satori isn't that bad. Except for Extending Arm. I have always hated that card. I am much better at it now yes but its still not fun one bit. If i had to pick a bad Satori match it would be Marisa x Alice vs Satori. The 1st recollection spell just seems so unfair.
I still think the worst one is Yukari recollection. Always sends shivers down my spine. But yeah, Nitori who is kinda trivial in her own game becomes really tough when used by Satori.

Just what seems to be the problem with Letty? If you would be able to make a score run you should also be well capable of utterly destroying Letty. If it weren't for Rumia and Wriggle she would be the easiest stage 1 boss overall. She have nothing compared to Yamame and Nazrin. I would mention Minoriko too but she is only hard when she decides to play bullshit with you.

I dunno. Letty is really easy on normal but on H/L I always feel her last card becomes kinda tough. But yeah, if you're going for a score run why the hell are you troubled by the first boss?
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Pako on May 25, 2009, 06:27:25 PM
My first archnemesis is Ran, BECAUSE SHE TOOK ME A DAMN 170 TRIES.
Yukari took me 130 less tries.

And mine second archnemesis is: Koishi because she is the last extra boss I have to beat, Subterranean Rose is the biggest trouble maker in this case.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: dustyjo on May 29, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
Kanako.

The game doesn't seem all that hard up until that point, then suddenly HOLY BALLS.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 30, 2009, 01:44:33 AM
Recently my arch nemesis is more Youmu than Satori. Youmu's gotten much softer since I became serious about perfecting her and learning how to do most of her fight, but HELL GOD SWORD is terrible. It has ruined so many perfect runs it's worth making Youmu my arch nemesis.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Thyried on June 03, 2009, 02:32:53 PM
Aya. Or Momiji. Or even the whole stage 4 of MoF. Even with MarisaB, I always end up losing most of my life at stage 4.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 03, 2009, 03:48:48 PM
Satori!!! :rage:

3 deaths on BoWaP! 3!

The first death was on the first round of bullets, even.

EDIT: GOD DAMN IT SATORI STOP IT!!

I can get to her with 5 lives, and then I'm down to 1 after she's done. Satori, I will murder you.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Gambit on June 03, 2009, 04:20:22 PM
I've finally decided that Sikieiki is my arch-nemesis because she just will not freaking lose.
Meiling gets an honorable mention. 
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Nimono on June 03, 2009, 04:57:39 PM
LLS: Yuka.  Even when I know its coming, LAZORZ
AGREED. This ALWAYS happens to me, and it ALWAYS ruins my runs, even more than Hax-Reimu and Hax-Marisa do. :< Forget Double-Spark, I can't get to that because of Yuka's "IT'S A TRAP!" Master Spark that I see coming. (Maybe Yuka's a miniature Death Star, considering she shoots that expected-yet-not laser.)

Also, Sakuya's Misdirection on Easy/Normal is, for some reason, much harder than on Hard/Lunatic

Same here, though I don't play it above Normal...or below. Seriously, Misdirection is just a big SDKJGFDHJSGF NDHJSFG for me. I heard from one person that you're safe if you stay below Sakuya during it. Well, no matter what, I HAVE TO BOMB THE CARD OR GET HIT. Oh wait, what bombs? I always waste them on her NONCARD RIGHT BEFORE IT. She ALWAYS hits me with the second wave. ALWAYS. Ugh. >_< It's why I can't beat the game AT ALL. Forget a 1cc- Remilia, Sakuya, and Stage 4 beat me up just enough to force me to lose all my CONTINUES, meaning yes, I have NEVER beaten EoSD before. Ever. Ugh...

As for everything else:

PCB: Prismrivers and Stage 4. Period. This stage is the absolute TOUGHEST for me. Forget Stage 5, Youmu, and Yuyuko- they're easy for me compared to Stage 4 and Prismriver Sisters. Seriously. I hate their last two spellcards, but to be honest, those are the EASIEST parts... Oh, this is on both Easy and Normal, by the way. (I never play higher than Normal, sad as it is.)

Fun fact: I almost had a 1cc of Easy once, but Yuyuko killed my last life. Grr.

IN: Reimu. Reimu, Reimu, Reimu. Marisa's easy for me, Reimu's ALWAYS the hax one. Well, at least... She USED to be incredibly difficult for me. Until I realized that Reimu's orbs were familiars and thus could be completely avoided by Focusing. Now I just worry about her spellcards. And her card spam. Still...

PoFV: MEDICINE FREAKING MELANCHOLY. I hate her SO much. When I see her stage, I'm like "HJDFGVHJDSG  NO! NOT MEDICINE! ANYONE BUT MEDICINE!!" I HATE her poison clouds.

Also, Shikieiki. Stupid Hax Yama. She ALWAYS outlasts me for at least ONE match. Maybe even TWO.

Never played anything past PoFV, as my laptop is too stupid to run SA and UFO, so I'm assuming it can't run MoF, either. I seriously need a better one so I can play those games.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on June 13, 2009, 08:15:32 PM
For misdirection:
Yeah, I used to have a though time on that, but it got better when I stopped panicking. I think the important thing is NOT trying to go and hit her, pick a spot and STAY there, on either side of the screen cause it's where she likes to spend time. When she's going around like crazy and firing red knives MAKE YOUR BEST EFFORT TO NOT MOVE, as doing so will get you trapped and killed. When she stops and fires the blue ones THEN you move to dodge them, since those are actually quite aimed at your sorry face. Get it out quickly and sit on your happy place again. Repeat until the timer runs out or either of you die.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 13, 2009, 08:18:26 PM
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AGREED. This ALWAYS happens to me, and it ALWAYS ruins my runs, even more than Hax-Reimu and Hax-Marisa do. :< Forget Double-Spark, I can't get to that because of Yuka's "IT'S A TRAP!" Master Spark that I see coming. (Maybe Yuka's a miniature Death Star, considering she shoots that expected-yet-not laser.)

Okay, seriously. I see this everywhere, and I will never understand it. Master Spark is very easy to see coming. Once she moves on to her second attack pattern, it alternates between that and master spark. Not only that, but she stops moving, turns invincible, and gives you three whole seconds to get out of the way. It's entirely understandable to get hit the first couple times, but after that there's really no excuse.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 14, 2009, 06:34:00 AM
Reimu in IaMP. I honestly cannot beat arcade mode because of her. She's just way too good at zoning for my Meiling to get close.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Ghaleon on June 14, 2009, 08:59:31 AM
Remila is being a major bish right now. I've died 4 times now on lunatic 1cc attempts on scarlet gensokyo. 2 of those 4 times I manage to beat her after continuing without using a single bomb or life.. ARRRRRGHAGHHAHGHAGHAHG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Time Traveler on June 14, 2009, 09:04:29 AM
Youmu in PCB, Marisa in IN, Aya in MoF, Yuugi AND Orin in SA.
EoSD is the only game where I can reliably do non-shittily on all the bosses.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on June 14, 2009, 10:15:18 PM
Reimu in IaMP. I honestly cannot beat arcade mode because of her. She's just way too good at zoning for my Meiling to get close.

As much as I would hate to admit it, Meiling is really underpowered in IaMP u.u
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Sodium on June 14, 2009, 10:27:08 PM
Remila is being a major bish right now. I've died 4 times now on lunatic 1cc attempts on scarlet gensokyo. 2 of those 4 times I manage to beat her after continuing without using a single bomb or life.. ARRRRRGHAGHHAHGHAGHAHG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rank.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Alice Fact on June 14, 2009, 11:32:20 PM
No tips, just stopping to say "grr, Kaguya's Last Spells, where's my concentration when I actually need it".
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 15, 2009, 11:49:01 AM
As much as I would hate to admit it, Meiling is really underpowered in IaMP u.u

I'm so glad to know that I'm not the only one who thinks Meiling shouldn't be a joke character. :'(
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on June 15, 2009, 11:28:43 PM
I'm so glad to know that I'm not the only one who thinks Meiling shouldn't be a joke character. :'(

She's a meelee character in IaMP! She SHOULD be good! Challenging, but good! Youmu does an AMAZING job at that (supported by some amazing missiles, let's admit) so I don't see any reason why China shouldn't. Also: Someone THAT colourful DESERVED better playability regardless of ANYTHING ELSE.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Zengeku on June 17, 2009, 06:49:25 PM
I can do this http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3589
So why can't i beat Koishi?  ???
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: mark2000 on June 30, 2009, 07:40:00 AM
I'd pick Youmu from PCB. I've honestly had an easier time with all of the series' last bosses compared to her.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Vile Lasagna on July 01, 2009, 01:29:27 AM
I'd pick Youmu from PCB. I've honestly had an easier time with all of the series' last bosses compared to her.

You need more Orin in your life, then XD
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Yukkuri on July 01, 2009, 01:35:23 AM
Maybe all of the stage 5 bosses except maybe Sanae
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Easy Mode on July 01, 2009, 01:36:30 AM
Elly from LLS. I always lose about two lives just on her stupid tiles.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: mark2000 on July 01, 2009, 09:01:27 AM


You need more Orin in your life, then XD

Perhaps...XD

I was suppose to move on to th11 after 1CCing th10 in normal mode but when I found out that I'm so rusty that I can't even 1CC any of the previous games anymore, I decided to do a retro journey for the moment. >_<
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Tenbatsu! Myon Rabbie on July 03, 2009, 09:53:15 AM
Ellen, PC-98 Alice, Remilia, The Prismrivers
D:
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: hyorinryu on July 03, 2009, 02:18:03 PM
Most definately Utsho. Nuclear Fusion(that's her first noncard), Heaven and Hell Meltdown, and her last one can all just die. 
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Milkyway64 on July 03, 2009, 07:41:06 PM
Reisen U. Inaba. Bane of all my hard mode runs so far.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: Arcengal on July 04, 2009, 06:45:27 AM
Void all my previous answers plz.

Kaguya.
Kaguya.
Kaguya.

Easily my worst fight in the entire series.
Title: Re: Your Touhou Arch-Nemesis
Post by: MSN-02 Zeong on July 04, 2009, 06:53:02 AM
Sikieiki, even though I love her.