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Title: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 23, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
Touhoumon started out as a Pokemon ROM hack with like god damn 7 different versions of it or something along those lines...

Emerald/FireRed/Crystal were the few versions that had been used to replace Pokemon with Touhou Characters. It's been a long while since anything Touhoumon related popped up besides the teaser website and picture which I can no longer find, a few months ago. The last few releases if i remember correctly were Touhoumon Puppet Play Enhanced 1.8, which is a hack over FireRed.

Anyway, recently the completion and release of a new Touhoumon game is over the horizon...

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45DEP4-1QI
Main Site: http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/

A few things have been changed since being a ROM Pokemon hack. It however is still played as one-
They have their own custom battle engine, which however, does not stray away that much from the original pokemon battles.
Graphics are staying true to their old originals, but with touchups to make the thing look spectacular. Sprites and Trainer battles are all following the Pokemon X/Y Style.
In the original Touhoumon hacks, most Girls could side evolve by means of an item, to transform into a form that focused more on a certain stat. ie ZYoumu/AYuugi/SYukari. In TPDP, it's the same thing but without use of an item; Girls can transform into different 'Styles' that are 'Attack', 'Defense', 'Speed', 'Assist', and their 'Normal' forms.
There still are the Typings and Resistances/Weaknesses, from what I can translate(?)

Something something I can't read japanese very well yet. Every Touhou from the first game on PC-98 to Double Dealing Character will be inside, even those from side stories such as Rinnosuke/Akyuu/Watatsuki Sisters.

NOW WITH COMPETITIVE ONLINE BATTLING OH YES JUST LIKE POKEMON 1V1 MY TEAM NOOBS
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2humon Puppets Location things thanks to the people in the thread of course

Route to Human Village
Common: Daiyousei, Chen, Nazrin
Very Rare: Sukana

Human Village
Common: Keine, Sekibanki, Kosuzu
Rare(?): Kokoro, Akyuu

Route to Forest of Magic:
Common: Rumia, Wriggle and Mystia.
Rare: Tokiko, Rika.

Forest of Magic:
Common: Sunny, Luna and Star.
Very Rare: Alice.

Route to Myouren Temple:
Common: Kotohime, Kyouko, Benben and Yatsuhashi.
Rare: Nue.

Myouren Temple:
Common: Ichirin, Nazrin and Kyouko
Rare: Murasa and Shou

Myouren Temple Cemetery:
Common: Kogasa, Yoshika and Youmu.
Rare: Yuyuko.
Super Rare: Mima

Cave to Divine Mausoleum:
Common: Futo, Tojiko and Seiga.
Rare: Miko.

Route to Bamboo Forest:
Common: Kurumi, Mystia and Mamizou.
Uncommon: Seija
Rare: Elly.

Bamboo Forest:
Common: Reisen, Tewi and Kagerou.
Rare: Mokou.

Bamboo Forest Cut Area:
Common: Tewi, Reisen, Gyokuto (Rei?sen)
Rare: Yorihime
Super Rare: Toyohime

Eientei:
Common: Reisen and Tewi.
Rare: Eirin.
Very Rare: Kaguya.


Route to Misty Lake:
Common: Orange, Daiyousei, Rumia, Mystia
Uncommon: Tokiko
Super Rare: Rinnosuke

Misty Lake:
Common: Cirno, Wakasagihime and Daiyousei.
Rare: Meiling and Nue.

SDM:
Common: Sakuya, Koakuma and Patchouli.
Rare: Remilia
Very Rare: Flandre

Kappa Valley
Nitori - common
Wakasagihime - common
Iku - less common
Komachi - kinda rare

Caves of Kappa Valley
Hina - common
Kisume - common
Rumia - common
Nitori - less common

Way up Youkai Mountain
Aya - common
Shizuha - common
Minoriko - common
Hatate - rare

Caves of Youkai Mountain
Hina - less common
Kisume - common
Momiji - less common
Yamame - common

Area surrounding Lake Suwa
Hatate - common
Aya - less common
Sanae - common
Kanako - rare
Suwako - super rare

Path down Mount Youkai
Hatate - common
Aya - common
Momiji - common
Tenshi - slightly less common
Kasen - Very Rare

Mayohiga
Chen - common
Ran - rare

Northern Forest of Magic (from Kappa Valley)
Sunny - common
Star - common
Luna - common
Ellen  - less common
Marisa - rare

Northern Forest of Magic - southern area
Yuki - common
Mai - common
Rikako - common
Alice - less common
Marisa - rare

Muenzuka - first area
Medicine - common
Komachi - common
Nazrin - less common
Eiki - rare


Muenzuka - second area
Rinnosuke - common
Renko - less common
Mari - less common
Eiki - less rare
Yukari - rare
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: commandercool on December 23, 2014, 03:33:43 PM
Oh wow, I hadn't heard of this until now. That's exciting. I played the Emerald one and loved it. Looking forward to this now.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: FlamingRok on December 23, 2014, 05:01:40 PM
Oh boy, I get to look forward to memorizing a new typing chart.

No but in actuality, I'm looking forward to this game, as I enjoyed the FireRed one immensely.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on December 23, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
DO WANT, DO WANT, DO WANT, DO WANT, DO FREAKING WANT, OH GOD SO GODDAMMM WANT.........
If it get an english patch i'm gonna play the living daylight out of it till i pass out!  :V

I wonder what kind of plot does it have...... if they somehow managed to insert the plotlines of the original touhou games i'll need medical attention  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on December 23, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
I wonder what kind of plot does it have...... if they somehow managed to insert the plotlines of the original touhou games i'll need medical attention  :D
Or the unfinished Gensokyo Scenario. I was really bummed when I found that "The scenario stops here" message in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 24, 2014, 03:48:43 AM
I actually made a topic on this a while back with some info on story and a few other things. The game apparently is translated as Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance.

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17310.msg1123430.html#msg1123430 (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17310.msg1123430.html#msg1123430)

Edit: Also you can try the demo on the website too.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 24, 2014, 04:25:22 AM
I actually made a topic on this a while back with some info on story and a few other things. The game apparently is translated as Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance.

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17310.msg1123430.html#msg1123430 (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17310.msg1123430.html#msg1123430)

Edit: Also you can try the demo on the website too.


I didn't want to necrobump :^)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 24, 2014, 04:39:29 AM

I didn't want to necrobump :^)

Oh my bad, I saw the trailer today but didn't even think about updating it. Oh well the link is there incase things need to get linked like the story and what not.

Seeing the new trailer I'm so happy DDC cast made it in, Wakasagihime, Sekibanki, Kagerou and Raikou! That right there is almost a whole team, I can't pick to use out of the 100!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Third Eye Lem on December 24, 2014, 08:20:31 AM
This looks promising, though I can't help but "YO DAWG" it up when you see Touhous fighting with other Touhous. :V

I gotta say, I love the spritework in this game. I also like the battle screen, it feels fresh yet familiar at the same time. I do have a few questions though...

- Will it use the same typing chart as 1.8?
- Will we be able to choose a male or female character, or at least different characters?
- Will we be able to trade Puppets online?
- Will there still be HMs?

Either way, I look forward to playing this game once it's been translated. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 24, 2014, 09:11:31 AM
- Will it use the same typing chart as 1.8?
- Will we be able to choose a male or female character, or at least different characters?
- Will there still be HMs?

There appear to be two different player characters in the trailer and HMs seem to be replaced by key-items such as a blow-up raft. (you can see that one in the trailer just before the one minute mark)
Typechart will be the one from 1.8 versions.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on December 24, 2014, 02:11:08 PM
Seems pretty cool.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 24, 2014, 03:04:53 PM
Typechart will be the one from 1.8 versions.

Faith (Dragon)
Heart (Bug)
Reason (Psychic)
Illusion (Normal)
Dark (Dark)
Native (Grass)
Water (Water)
Wind (Electric)
Earth (Ground)
Miasma (Poison)
Beast (Rock)
Fire (Fire)
Flying (Flying)
Steel (Steel)
Ghost (Ghost)
Ice (Ice)
Dream (Fighting)

Yeah
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: qazmlpok on December 24, 2014, 04:57:04 PM
DO WANT, DO WANT, DO WANT, DO WANT, DO FREAKING WANT, OH GOD SO GODDAMMM WANT.........
If it get an english patch i'm gonna play the living daylight out of it till i pass out!  :V

I wonder what kind of plot does it have...... if they somehow managed to insert the plotlines of the original touhou games i'll need medical attention  :D

Well, a few people started working on translating the trial. I didn't stick around to see if they ever got anywhere, but there is certainly interest. I'd honestly say that a patch is a bit of a given.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45DEP4-1QI&feature=player_detailpage#t=128
Wait, why are some of the puppet names written in English?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 24, 2014, 07:24:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45DEP4-1QI&feature=player_detailpage#t=128
Wait, why are some of the puppet names written in English?

It could have been the staff nicknaming them in English or someway to show who that character was, it's doubtful but I wonder if the Kana for their names are not used so they were made into English? (really really doubt that though.)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ZXNova on December 24, 2014, 10:36:00 PM
Faith (Dragon)
Heart (Bug)
Reason (Psychic)
Illusion (Normal)
Dark (Dark)
Native (Grass)
Water (Water)
Wind (Electric)
Earth (Ground)
Miasma (Poison)
Beast (Rock)
Fire (Fire)
Flying (Flying)
Steel (Steel)
Ghost (Ghost)
Ice (Ice)
Dream (Fighting)

Yeah

This is incorrect. When the people of Shoddy Touhoumon Purple were translating the demo of TPDP, we also translated the typings of the game, and many of them are not the same. Here are the types in TPDP.

無 < No one seems to agree on a translation for this, so for now we're calling it Mu until full release. Most of us want to call it Void, however.
夢 (Dream) Not the same dream type in TPP 1.8, it's a move that every puppet starts with a level 5 that isn't super effective or resisted by anything.
炎 (Fire)
水 (Water)
自然 (Nature)
大地 (Earth)
鋼鉄 (Steel)
風 (Wind) This acts as the new flying type
雷 (Lightning, Electric)
光 (Light)
闇 (Dark) More earthy, youkai darkness.
冥 (Nether) The more ghostly, dead-like darkness.
毒 (Poison)
闘 (武) (Warrior) The Fighting type, sounds cooler.
幻 (Illusion) This isn't the same illusion in 1.8
音 (Sound) As strange as a typing as this sounds, it works very well for this game.

Here is our translation page: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=303.0 To get some more info.

Also our main topic as well: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=167a2ac70c614a6f3c834a4543c18d15&board=12.0

Here's the type chart as well: http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/elements.html

E: Accidently quoted my edit instead of modifying it, can someone delete that please?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on December 25, 2014, 12:02:22 AM
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無 < No one seems to agree on a translation for this, so for now we're calling it Mu until full release. Most of us want to call it Void, however.

I would suggest None. But Void sounds good.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Third Eye Lem on December 25, 2014, 06:48:55 AM
I agree, Void seems to suit certain characters/moves.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 25, 2014, 07:01:15 AM
Yeah from what other have talked about it would seem that "Nothing" seems close but for the edit of actual text in game "Void" (as long as it means the same thing in Japanese, I don't translate so I wouldn't know) then I'm good for void. None might work but I don't think it really conveys the same meaning as nothing or void can do.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on December 25, 2014, 01:28:21 PM
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Yeah from what other have talked about it would seem that "Nothing" seems close but for the edit of actual text in game "Void" (as long as it means the same thing in Japanese, I don't translate so I wouldn't know) then I'm good for void.

I am not a translator, but that word doesn't exactly translate to void. If people agree to use that, I would be okay with it.

The word 無 translates to nothing. It doesn't exactly mean void, since void is generally defined by the word 空. The previous word generally means nothing or none. Void usually implies a vacuum in space and that is used by the latter word.
When talking about typing, the word 無 would closest translate to typeless or no type.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on December 25, 2014, 01:41:50 PM
As long as you notify it somewhere, I think it's okay to strech the language a little so it doesn't sound weird. I find "Void" to sound way cooler than "Nothing" or "None".

Although, thinking about it, a lot of words could replace "nothingness" to an extent, like "Blank" or "Nil".

Translating things is hard. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: BT on December 26, 2014, 10:23:25 PM
I like this. Will play intensively with english patch.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Kirin no Sora on December 27, 2014, 04:19:05 AM
This is incorrect. When the people of Shoddy Touhoumon Purple were translating the demo of TPDP, we also translated the typings of the game, and many of them are not the same. Here are the types in TPDP.

無 < No one seems to agree on a translation for this, so for now we're calling it Mu until full release. Most of us want to call it Void, however.
夢 (Dream) Not the same dream type in TPP 1.8, it's a move that every puppet starts with a level 5 that isn't super effective or resisted by anything.
炎 (Fire)
水 (Water)
自然 (Nature)
大地 (Earth)
鋼鉄 (Steel)
風 (Wind) This acts as the new flying type
雷 (Lightning, Electric)
光 (Light)
闇 (Dark) More earthy, youkai darkness.
冥 (Nether) The more ghostly, dead-like darkness.
毒 (Poison)
闘 (武) (Warrior) The Fighting type, sounds cooler.
幻 (Illusion) This isn't the same illusion in 1.8
音 (Sound) As strange as a typing as this sounds, it works very well for this game.

Here is our translation page: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=303.0 To get some more info.

Also our main topic as well: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=167a2ac70c614a6f3c834a4543c18d15&board=12.0

Here's the type chart as well: http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/elements.html

I am not a translator, but that word doesn't exactly translate to void. If people agree to use that, I would be okay with it.

The word 無 translates to nothing. It doesn't exactly mean void, since void is generally defined by the word 空. The previous word generally means nothing or none. Void usually implies a vacuum in space and that is used by the latter word.
When talking about typing, the word 無 would closest translate to typeless or no type.

As long as you notify it somewhere, I think it's okay to strech the language a little so it doesn't sound weird. I find "Void" to sound way cooler than "Nothing" or "None".

Although, thinking about it, a lot of words could replace "nothingness" to an extent, like "Blank" or "Nil".

Translating things is hard. :V

I looked at the type chart and noted something. Does X mean that 無 and 幻 are super effective to each other, or that they have no effect towards each other? Because if its the latter, then it kind of mimics the relationship between Normal(or Fighting) and Ghost types in the Pokemon games. What do attacks done with the 無 element actually look like, though?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 27, 2014, 07:42:01 AM
Warning I'm still on the Japanese demo, not even sure if there is a full English patch for the demo.

In the demo these are the only two 無 elements are these two attacks.
(http://puu.sh/dL2bC/54250a555e.png)

In therms of looks... well one does a power up and the other looks like a simple shot that spreads and converges on the enemy.
(http://puu.sh/dL28b/55017478cf.png)

I don't even know what the power up attack even does.
(http://puu.sh/dL2a1/13f6cbe82c.png)

They don't look special, so I guess Normal would be the equivalent.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on December 27, 2014, 11:32:01 AM

I don't even know what the power up attack even does.
(http://puu.sh/dL2a1/13f6cbe82c.png)

They don't look special, so I guess Normal would be the equivalent.

It powers up your "spread def".
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on December 27, 2014, 12:11:10 PM
Quote
I looked at the type chart and noted something. Does X mean that 無 and 幻 are super effective to each other, or that they have no effect towards each other? Because if its the latter, then it kind of mimics the relationship between Normal(or Fighting) and Ghost types in the Pokemon games. What do attacks done with the 無 element actually look like, though?

It means they have no effect towards each other. If I were to guess, 無 attacks would be like normal attacks in Pokemon. It will probably be stuff like Punch, Kick, Slap, Book Smash, etc. Not actually Martial Arts moves, that would fall under "Fighting" type. But generic attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Kirin no Sora on December 27, 2014, 01:59:31 PM
If that's the case, then 無 is clearly the Normal type equivalent in this game.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 27, 2014, 03:54:20 PM
It powers up your "spread def".

So is it safe to assume that only work on the type of attack? Like how pokemon has physical and special attacks, this game has spread and focus right?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on December 27, 2014, 04:00:48 PM
So is it safe to assume that only work on the type of attack? Like how pokemon has physical and special attacks, this game has spread and focus right?

Yes.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 28, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Oh hell yes! I just found out today about a 2.02 demo on the website. Lots of changes in this version, the intro uses the trailer they had for the game.

A few NPC's are in a different place (like Maribel and Renko), if you talk to the guy with glasses before the forest you can PICK YOUR STARTER OUT OF ALL POSSIBLE PUPPETS!! I had no idea who to pick but I ended up with Wakasagihime (which the english name doesn't fit so she's wakasagi for now.), Genji the turtle is in the pond next to the Hakurei shrine. NEW BATTLE MUSIC! (for the wild puppets battles, I like it was more!) Currently still playing but this is all I have for now.

Here's the link: look for the link with the 2.02 for all you non moonspeakers out there.

http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.html (http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.html)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 28, 2014, 09:01:34 PM
That's it! Mai for starter!!!
EDIT: Wow! Mai is good. I easily beat Marisa with just attacking.
Daiyousei, Nazrin, Chen and Sukuna are on the first route. Daiyousei keeps appearing everytime I go to the grass.
EDIT2: Mai just one-shotted Chen.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on December 28, 2014, 11:02:39 PM
So the full version of this game is out then? Not a demo or anything?
In either case I'll probably wait until the translation patch to start playing.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Savory on December 28, 2014, 11:13:28 PM
Yeah I'd probably wait for an English patch if anyone is working on that.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sahgren on December 28, 2014, 11:32:00 PM
The website says the game will come out tomorrow, on the 2nd day of C87. Irregardless, I'm also going to be waiting for an English patch. If for no other reason than so I'll know what the non-damaging abilities do without keeping a wiki page open.

I tried the 2.02 demo. Picked Shiki and lost to Marisa getting 2 lucky crits.  :colonveeplusalpha:    At least I can take solace in her having A+ IV ranking for every stat.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 28, 2014, 11:47:33 PM
There's a huge Suika blocking the path to the mountains. I don't know what to do.
EDIT:
Puppets capturable in Human Village:
Kosuzu, Kokoro, Sekibanki, Keine and Akyuu.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 29, 2014, 01:14:40 AM
Yeah I'm a bit stick myself. It could be the end of the demo but I've beaten team (9) but no idea where to go from there. Talked with everyone I could think.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 01:26:49 AM
Which level is your starter? Mai is level 18 now. I'm going to try to level her up to level 20 and check if that is the maximum level.
Also, where did you got that Wakasagihime animation?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 29, 2014, 01:31:46 AM
Which level is your starter? Mai is level 18 now. I'm going to try to level her up to level 20 and check if that is the maximum level.
Also, where did you got that Wakasagihime animation?

About 16 till I had to go do other stuff. If its like 1.01 then yes 20 is max... But you could fight reimu too in that sooo I'm missing something.

Made it myself, took the frames and cleaned the background and animated it. I'm wanting to do it for all of them but just hope I don't miss on any frames.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 01:35:00 AM
About 16 till I had to go do other stuff. If its like 1.01 then yes 20 is max... But you could fight reimu too in that sooo I'm missing something.

Made it myself, took the frames and cleaned the background and animated it. I'm wanting to do it for all of them but just hope I don't miss on any frames.

That's what I want to try.

Ok. I really want to make a Chen one. Which program did you use?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 29, 2014, 01:37:08 AM
Well I have Photoshop cs2 when it was free... But trying to figure out how to animate it was a pain. I could make Chen for ys if you want?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 01:42:30 AM
You will? She's just so damn cute!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 29, 2014, 01:48:09 AM
Yep I post later tonight. I'll also do her attack and damage ones too.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 01:53:20 AM
Okay! Will be looking forward to see it!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 29, 2014, 08:02:50 AM
Here we go. The normal animation. I seen what I messed on my first one and managed to fix the issues. The pixles do get somewhat warped due to resizing it to fit with the forum avatar size. I'm gonna rip all the sprites from the game at their default size for people to see and use. Maybe make a forum size group for people to use here too. This will take a while lol.

(http://puu.sh/dNyUX/fec04d9078.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 05:18:19 PM
Wow, thx!!
I'm setting it as an avatar and I'll thank you in my signature!!
I tried to do a Mai one.
But...
http://i.imgur.com/YsmE7Jc.gif (http://i.imgur.com/YsmE7Jc.gif)
I failed. It's way too big... and has some few missing pixels...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: qazmlpok on December 29, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Are you guys cropping from screenshots/videos?

Try this instead. Filenames aren't useful, sadly. It's also just from the demo.

https://www.mediafire.com/?o2u6jtozudbvdby
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 29, 2014, 07:42:27 PM
Oh this is very useful, but I guess this dose save me the trouble of doing it myself.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 08:20:26 PM
That Mima sprite is different.
From which version of the demo are these?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: qazmlpok on December 29, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
I think I downloaded the first patch and not the later one(s). I guess they changed the sprites at some point.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 10:26:53 PM
Succesfully made a Mai one, even though it's small :ohdear::
(http://puu.sh/dOZ0v/2faab1f474.gif)
Also, what do we have here?
(http://puu.sh/dP7MN/781dbc7ac9.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 29, 2014, 11:34:56 PM
*gasp* Where did you find her?! I'm stuck in the village and no idea where to go!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 29, 2014, 11:36:03 PM
Full version.
Left road of the village, also fought Reimu and Tokiko.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sahgren on December 30, 2014, 03:09:13 AM
Apparently the game sold out at C87 (https://twitter.com/gn_gekidan/status/549422225061720065). Google Translate is kinda messy, but previous tweets seem to say that there'll eventually be a downloadable version for purchase for everyone who didn't manage to secure a copy.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 30, 2014, 03:19:56 AM
Translation of the full version, updates will be posted here ( from what i know ) http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=354.0
Oh, by the way, Colticide, could you make a Satori or Shinmyoumaru Sakuna  animated sprite for me?

Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: SirSlarty on December 30, 2014, 03:30:04 AM
If we're requesting sprite animation rips, I'd like one of Yuki, please!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 30, 2014, 04:18:08 AM
Translation of the full version, updates will be posted here ( from what i know ) http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=354.0
Oh, by the way, Colticide, could you make a Satori animated sprite for me?

I translation already!? Yes! Yes give me some time, I'll try to get these done tonight.

If we're requesting sprite animation rips, I'd like one of Yuki, please!

Yep I'll work on that one today as well.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 30, 2014, 04:19:36 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 30, 2014, 06:22:07 AM
I'll take a Miko and Reisen one if you don't mind please also I'll wait for an English translation to play. I just can't contain the excitement from a legit Touhoumon game since I did play some Touhoumon games.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 30, 2014, 06:26:34 AM
So you can pick one out of ALL Touhoumon as a starter?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 30, 2014, 06:26:46 AM
OK.
https://mega.co.nz/#fm/eoMlUSIB (https://mega.co.nz/#fm/eoMlUSIB)
For those who want to make puppet gifs.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunarWingCloud on December 30, 2014, 08:12:39 AM
Touhoumon is still expanding? Jesus. Why am I surprised by this? One of the most devoted, craziest fandoms taking one of the biggest franchises in gaming, and making its own version of it. And it's still popping up. Damn.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 30, 2014, 08:13:44 AM
mima pls
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on December 30, 2014, 09:52:19 AM
Touhoumon is still expanding? Jesus. Why am I surprised by this? One of the most devoted, craziest fandoms taking one of the biggest franchises in gaming, and making its own version of it. And it's still popping up. Damn.

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/57049838.jpg)

The very reason i got interested in Touhou was LeoModesto's Touhoumon Nuzlocke run..... i still have it in my favourites and now i'll re-re-re-read it again because it's so freaking awesome! It also introduced me to the awesome world of Touhou's music when he started to make animations of some of his battles instead of mere comics....
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 30, 2014, 10:30:15 AM
God I'm tired lol. I also made Mai too since it looked like you were having trouble. Pick em up everyone.

(http://puu.sh/dQmlf/f41b7ed0de.gif)(http://puu.sh/dQmmH/824a0a0b5b.gif)(http://puu.sh/dQmo1/bb61a538ea.gif)(http://puu.sh/dQmpH/4edd15476b.gif)(http://puu.sh/dQmr5/ef88028757.gif)(http://puu.sh/dQms7/212d134561.gif)(http://puu.sh/dQmtd/8724952cbd.gif)

Sukuna and Yuki look so cool, and love how it's HM Miko, when she attacks she gets sparkles all over her too.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on December 30, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Woah, good job! Sukuna is really cute! Miko..... i am still convinced she is an homage to Vocaloids and/or japanese idols, switch a mic for her sword in that sprite and she is ready for the show  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Validon98 on December 30, 2014, 02:46:46 PM
I'm going to wait a bit until at least the gameplay elements have been translated (although based off of what I've seen in the thread, progress seems to be coming along pretty nicely), so in the meanwhile I made my own animated Mystia based on some dumped sprites I found on there. ^^;
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Tyraxx on December 30, 2014, 02:50:13 PM
I really would love to translate the game while I'm playing it.
Since after one has played it, the enthusiasm is gone.

So I was wondering if anyone could teach me how to replace the in-game text...?
Otherwise I'd need to do the translation in a txt-file, though that would be really ugly and inconvenient.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 30, 2014, 05:02:28 PM
Sakuna looks so cute! I also love how Reisen, Satori and Mima look! Miko is badass!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 30, 2014, 09:00:36 PM
And that's why I love Miko for bad assery <3 Also REISEN EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! <3 - takes the gifs and run including Sukuna- Thank you so much.~ Uwahahahaha....
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 30, 2014, 10:00:57 PM
Oh! There's even more!!
(http://puu.sh/dREa1/7d5e574227.png)
Kogasa!!!
(http://puu.sh/dREeT/8058e756dc.png)
And Yoshika!!

Also laughed on how I captured Kurumi, she was burned...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Vento on December 30, 2014, 10:12:45 PM
damn i was gonna use miko but someone else already did ;_;
i'll go rip her sparkles........

OK.
https://mega.co.nz/#fm/eoMlUSIB (https://mega.co.nz/#fm/eoMlUSIB)
For those who want to make puppet gifs.
link leads to nowhere lol
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 30, 2014, 10:19:10 PM
link leads to nowhere lol
Lol.
Here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!ysVkiTJC!XNG-j8Vr0W0BuBRk8MWDYZ_GvZcWxUvK9r3zBkW8kvs (https://mega.co.nz/#!ysVkiTJC!XNG-j8Vr0W0BuBRk8MWDYZ_GvZcWxUvK9r3zBkW8kvs)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 30, 2014, 10:57:22 PM
damn i was gonna use miko but someone else already did ;_;
i'll go rip her sparkles........

Oh man this was harder then I thought, she only has two frames of the sparkles. The file with the rips are also way smaller then the ones I ripped and they also don't have the sparkles with them.
Here ya go, in case you didn't get to it.
(http://puu.sh/dRNcb/64272e074d.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Vento on December 30, 2014, 11:01:04 PM
Oh man this was harder then I thought, she only has two frames of the sparkles. The file with the rips are also way smaller then the ones I ripped and they also don't have the sparkles with them.
Here ya go, in case you didn't get to it.
(http://puu.sh/dRNcb/64272e074d.gif)
lel just did my new avatar , thanks anyway! saving that as well :^)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 30, 2014, 11:02:45 PM
lel just did my new avatar , thanks anyway! saving that as well :^)

Her cape changed colors? Or was that your doing?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: SirSlarty on December 30, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Yay, Yuki!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Vyrien on December 30, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
Requesting seiga because don't have PS on my lappy <3
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Vento on December 30, 2014, 11:24:00 PM
Her cape changed colors? Or was that your doing?
yeah i manually went to edit it so it'd switch between her HM cape colours and changed the eyebrows a bit lol
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 30, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
And that's why your an artist, I was double checking myself and was wondering if I missed something. (Did mess up on my original Miko sprite but for some reason I can't re edit it in photoshop, so I'm gonna have to re rip it. Wish I had fireworks, then I wouldn't have this problem.)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Axel Ryman on December 31, 2014, 02:17:51 AM
I would like a Youmu one pretty please. I am bad at photoshop. And paint. Especially paint.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 02:36:39 AM
Here is Seiga! I made the standing and attacking animations incase you didn't like the standing one. Personally I like her better in the attacking.
(http://puu.sh/dSkZN/8e971582af.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSl1R/6782bffa12.gif)

I would like a Youmu one pretty please. I am bad at photoshop. And paint. Especially paint.

Give me a bit and I'll start working on it and get it up tonight. Sorry for taking so long.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: nyttyn on December 31, 2014, 02:56:35 AM
While you're making them, would it be too much trouble to ask for a tenshi? Her sprite is just 2gud.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 03:31:47 AM
Not at all, it just takes some time. I have to restart every time for a character that isn't caught early on. Then either rip or resize a sprite on the list.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 04:11:29 AM
More info for capturable puppets.
Route to forest of Magic:
Common: Rumia, Wriggle and Mystia.
Rare: Tokiko.
Very Rare: Rika.
Forest of Magic:
Common: Sunny, Luna and Star.
Very Rare: Alice.
Route to Myouren Temple:
Common: Kotohime, Kyouko, Benben and Yatsuhashi.
Rare: Nue.
Myouren Temple:
Common:
Ichirin, Nazrin and Kyouko
Rare:
Murasa and Shou
Myouren Temple Cemetery:
Common: Kogasa, Yoshika and Youmu.
Rare: Yuyuko.
Cave to Divine Mausoleum:
Common: Futo, Tojiko and Seiga.
Very Rare: Miko.
Route to Bamboo Forest:
Common: Kurumi, Mystia and Mamizou.
Rare: Elly.
Bamboo Forest:
Common: Reisen, Tewi and Kagerou.
Rare: Mokou.
Eientei:
Common: Reisen and Tewi.
Rare: Eirin.
Very Rare: Kaguya.
Route to Misty Lake:
Common: Orange, Daiyousei and Rumia.
Rare: Tokiko.
Misty Lake:
Common: Cirno, Wakasagihime and Daiyousei.
Rare: Meiling and Nue.
SDM:
Common: Remilia, Koakuma and Patchouli.
Rare: Sakuya.
That's all my progress for now.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 04:31:25 AM
More info for capturable puppets.

Myouren Temple Cemetery:
Common: Kogasa, Yoshika and Youmu.
Rare: Yuyuko.

Mima, but seemingly super rare.

Cave to Divine Mausoleum:
Common: Futo, Tojiko and Seiga.
Very Rare: Miko.
Route to Bamboo Forest:
Common: Kurumi, Mystia and Mamizou.
Rare: Elly.

Seija, not too rare

SDM:
Common: Remilia, Koakuma and Patchouli.
Rare: Sakuya.

Flan, decently rare

I added some in italics.
I also kinda have to go back and get the ones I missed I guess. (Nue & Mokou)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 04:49:31 AM
I added some in italics.
I also kinda have to go back and get the ones I missed I guess. (Nue & Mokou)
I forgot, Seija. Even though I captured her.
Also, haven't progressed a lot in the SDM. Only to fight Patchouli.
On which part of the game are you? You can add some more info.
Anyways, info on characters you fight on the routes:
Route to Forest of Magic:
Reimu, Sekibanki (optional) and Tokiko (optional).
Route to Bamboo Forest:
Kagerou (only once you beated Marisa for the 2nd time).
Bamboo Forest:
Marisa (once you beated Mokou)
Eientei:
Tewi, Reisen and Mokou.
Keine's house:
Mokou (again, optional.)
Myouren Temple Cemetery:
Kogasa (optional) and Yoshika.
Misty Lake:
Meiling.
SDM:
Koakuma, Patchouli, Marisa (optional) I'm assuming you also fight Remi and Sakuya.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 05:17:33 AM
Something about Mima being super rare
nice time to grind
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 05:27:20 AM
Okay. Found Mima!!  :]
Kogasa crits...  :colonveeplusalpha:
Sometimes you gotta hate crits...
Also, capturing Koakuma was hard... she often uses an attack and escapes...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 05:46:44 AM
OK, go ahead and pick which ever one you all want. This is fun and also a learning experience, also figuring out how to speed run the demo by doing this lol.

(http://puu.sh/dSH7H/825b5d0417.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSH9b/a73ed46a07.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSHad/64996b560b.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSHbj/6fde24f904.gif)

How are you guys able to tell if something is rare or not?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 05:51:18 AM
How are you guys able to tell if something is rare or not?

Well, it depends on how often he/she/it appears. Alice for example. I only found her once in the forest of Magic. While the 30+ encounters were from the three fairies of light. Too bad I critted her so, no capture...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 05:55:05 AM
Well, it depends on how often he/she/it appears. Alice for example. I only found her once in the forest of Magic. While the 30+ encounters were from the three fairies of light. Too bad I critted her so, no capture...

T-T Y-you monster! Alice noo..

Anyway, once a list get compiled I might take the small menu sprites and make a rarity chart for easy access and easy to view.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 06:00:06 AM
T-T Y-you monster! Alice noo..

Anyway, once a list get compiled I might take the small menu sprites and make a rarity chart for easy access and easy to view.

I didn't want to!! I just wanted her... ;_; Stupid crits...
At least I met her in her house  :3
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 06:06:57 AM
I didn't want to!! I just wanted her... ;_; Stupid crits...
At least I met her in her house  :3

True, and any Alice fans dream come true. I have to say though I'm loving that Hemogurobin a1c made character art as well for this, the sprites are very well done but something the Touhoumon hacks have either none or really bad trainer art for the girls. Going for the pokemon x & y trainer approach really makes it for me in terms of visuals. And dat music too!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 06:09:29 AM
Her stand:
(http://puu.sh/dSJOf/0fab45dc51.png)
 :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 06:11:52 AM
ah....ahhhh where did you find that at!? Your gonna kill me you know that?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 06:16:04 AM
ah....ahhhh where did you find that at!? Your gonna kill me you know that?
Uploading archive. Wait a bit  ;)
My internet is slow...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 06:31:54 AM
So apparently i'm stuck at the Hakurei Shrine at the beginning of the game
No encounters spawn and I've talked to everyone already
Pretty sure there's supposed to be a event where i'm supposed to chase a 2humon or something

Edit: Talk to the glasses guy and choose your 2hu yes I did nothing happens and proceed to the grassy field for event or something
Yes nothing happens
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 06:41:12 AM
ah....ahhhh where did you find that at!? Your gonna kill me you know that?
Here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!usFnAD5b!ch6v5cMiK-CU1pDt_WeqIiX4vw7-5Tt5Vd-uBLF0opM (https://mega.co.nz/#!usFnAD5b!ch6v5cMiK-CU1pDt_WeqIiX4vw7-5Tt5Vd-uBLF0opM)

So apparently i'm stuck at the Hakurei Shrine at the beginning of the game
No encounters spawn and I've talked to everyone already
Pretty sure there's supposed to be a event where i'm supposed to chase a 2humon or something

Edit: Talk to the glasses guy and choose your 2hu yes I did nothing happens and proceed to the grassy field for event or something
Yes nothing happens

Go talk with every NPC, also with Renko and Maribel behind the shrine.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 06:50:45 AM
Here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!usFnAD5b!ch6v5cMiK-CU1pDt_WeqIiX4vw7-5Tt5Vd-uBLF0opM (https://mega.co.nz/#!usFnAD5b!ch6v5cMiK-CU1pDt_WeqIiX4vw7-5Tt5Vd-uBLF0opM)

You've killed me, I'm actually dead now and haunting my PC.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 06:55:49 AM
You've killed me, I'm actually dead now and haunting my PC.
;_; I'm so sorry!!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Axel Ryman on December 31, 2014, 07:21:32 AM
OK, go ahead and pick which ever one you all want. This is fun and also a learning experience, also figuring out how to speed run the demo by doing this lol.

(http://puu.sh/dSH7H/825b5d0417.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSH9b/a73ed46a07.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSHad/64996b560b.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSHbj/6fde24f904.gif)


-Steals Takes the Tenshi ones as well-

Stand images? Only thing missing is an English patch and I'll be good to go.


And now I kinda have an urge to speedrun th-NO NO NO I MUST FINISH LABY2 FIRST!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 07:30:54 AM
Go talk with every NPC, also with Renko and Maribel behind the shrine.

I've talked to everyone
Multiple times

Redownloaded the game
Restarted the game
Talked with every npc
Interacted with all things that can be interacted with
Chosen fave touhou
Went through entire grass area
Entire shrine
Entire starting area
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 09:19:34 AM
And Mari and Renko?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on December 31, 2014, 10:29:21 AM
I've talked to everyone
Multiple times

Redownloaded the game
Restarted the game
Talked with every npc
Interacted with all things that can be interacted with
Chosen fave touhou
Went through entire grass area
Entire shrine
Entire starting area

Update to 1.01 patch?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 10:29:44 AM
I've traveled
up Youkai Mountain and am hanging around at the Moriya Shrine now.
Really like the style of capturing things. It's effectively kinda similar since they can resist the seal if too healthy but just by virtue of it being different it's interesting.

Kappa Valley
Nitori - common
Iku - less common
Wakasagihime - common (forgot about her, thanks for the reminder)
Komachi - kinda rare

Caves of Kappa Valley
Hina - common
Kisume - common
Rumia - common
Nitori - less common

Way up Youkai Mountain
Aya - common
Shizuha - common
Minoriko - common
Hatate - rare

Caves of Youkai Mountain
Hina - less common
Kisume - common
Momiji - less common
Yamame - common

Area surrounding Lake Suwa
Hatate - common
Aya - less common
Sanae - common
Kanako - rare
Suwako - really rare

Path down Mount Youkai
Hatate - common
Aya - common
Momiji - common
Tenshi - slightly less common

Mayohiga
Chen - common
Ran - rare

Right now I'm looking to maybe find Suwako here and Suwako get, also catching more Kanako because I'm torn between putting her into my party or not. Why is this so difficult...
Hmm, isn't the area kinda obvious from the characters residing in there? :V I'll keep the spoiler tags anyway I guess.
If Yamame had slightly more evil eyes she would totally look like a comic villain that's about to obtain world domination.

Also, why not post the teams were using? That's always fun, right?

Yuuka (P) Elly (P) Kurumi (P) Yuyuko (D) Rika (S) Lily (A)
At least Rika or Lily are going to leave once I find a certain someone, Mugenkan crew and Yuyu are definitely staying.
Lily must be seriously annoying. Is hard to take down thanks to high Hp, decent defenses and non-preventable passive regen and super quick. Problem is that she needs such a low amount of experience that she gets ahead of everyone without even participating in battles.

Speaking of which, is there a way to turn off the shared experience? I kinda doubt it since even with it the relevant battles have a good level to match mine but the random trainers are all lagging behind heavily.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
And Mari and Renko?

yes

Update to 1.01 patch?

yes


edit: I fixed it by running it in Compatibility for Windows 7 mode
Strange........
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 12:34:18 PM
edit: I fixed it by running it in Compatibility for Windows 7 mode
Strange........

I thought that could have been the issue, I needed to make sure so I was looking for a video of someone playing the full game. It could be some files weren't getting read without it. I remember after deleting the 1.01 demo but somehow the .exe file stayed and replaced the 2.02 .exe, it would run but only to the loading screen with missing UI and whatnot. Whatever wasn't being read was not allowing you to progress is what I would assume.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 12:54:07 PM
Just in case you guys didn't know

Towards Human Village:
Daiyousei
Nazrin
Chen
EX. Rare: Shinmyoumaru Sukana

(http://i.imgur.com/4FOvdnh.png)

EDIT: Gimme all the 2humon locations I'll compile and paste them in the first post
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 01:39:16 PM
I'll keep adding the locations into my post as I go then.
The more people do it the more reliable the information is, after all.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Vyrien on December 31, 2014, 01:51:07 PM
Here is Seiga! I made the standing and attacking animations incase you didn't like the standing one. Personally I like her better in the attacking.
(http://puu.sh/dSkZN/8e971582af.gif)(http://puu.sh/dSl1R/6782bffa12.gif)


Thank you!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
Weird how you don't earn money from Trainer Battles

Or is this another bug or problem with Compatibility or something
I'm going to run out of Seal Talismans at this rate lol

Well that is if I don't sell any items
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 02:34:43 PM
Trainers don't give money but everything you defeat has a chance to drop stuff that seems to be just for selling.
They're kept in the leftmost tab of the inventory.
I got by easily with just selling the two cheapest things because I'm too paranoid to give away the more valuable stuff. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 02:59:48 PM
Trainers don't give money but everything you defeat has a chance to drop stuff that seems to be just for selling.
They're kept in the leftmost tab of the inventory.

I know but I mean
I wanted them to still give you money :v just like pokemon
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
It's common sense not to rob people of their money after you have your adorable, little companions beat them up, you know?

Alternatively it is common sense to do so in the world of Pokemon and since you are in Gensokyo nobody does it due to lack of common sense. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 31, 2014, 03:35:47 PM

Just in case you guys didn't know

Towards Human Village:
Daiyousei
Nazrin
Chen
EX. Rare: Shinmyoumaru Sukana

EDIT: Gimme all the 2humon locations I'll compile and paste them in the first post

So that's where Shinmyoumaru Sakuna is at... are the Touhoumon's like Pokemon where some Touhoumon's are clearly better than others? Also i would love to help locating all of the Touhoumon's locations but i don't want to spoil anything until the english patch is out. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45DEP4-1QI trailer of the full version, at 1:46 they show all the puppets in the game. As you can see EVERY single character that we know of exists in this game, even the Watatsuki Sisters and Kasen!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 03:48:44 PM
Sukana
Sakuna
Sukuna

It seems like every character is useful in their own right from what I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: nyttyn on December 31, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Thanks for the sprite Colticide! It's much appreciated~

Also, does anyone think they can help me? I'm trying to run the demo, and all my numbers look...super screwy.
(http://i.imgur.com/iXR17iK.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 31, 2014, 03:57:00 PM
Sukuna

It seems like every character is useful in their own right from what I've seen so far.

Oh, i assume Sakuna because she is so small, she has good evasion. And if we go by this logic then Yoshika is great defensivly.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 04:52:25 PM
Oh, i assume Sakuna because she is so small, she has good evasion. And if we go by this logic then Yoshika is great defensivly.

Sukuna when I used her in the demo is like a glass cannon, everything one shot her but she dealt good damage granted if you was fast enough.

Thanks for the sprite Colticide! It's much appreciated~

Also, does anyone think they can help me? I'm trying to run the demo, and all my numbers look...super screwy.
(http://i.imgur.com/iXR17iK.png)

Hmmm the only thing I could think of is do you have your region set to Japan. The other thing could be you might need to add Japanese to your computers language, I use to have that issue too with other games but are fixed now.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: nyttyn on December 31, 2014, 05:06:36 PM
Sukuna when I used her in the demo is like a glass cannon, everything one shot her but she dealt good damage granted if you was fast enough.

Hmmm the only thing I could think of is do you have your region set to Japan. The other thing could be you might need to add Japanese to your computers language, I use to have that issue too with other games but are fixed now.

According to the stat leaks, edit: sukuna's a focus tank and powerful at focus attacks, but her spread defense and attack are both lacking.

Turns out that's exactly it. Windows 8, for whatever reason, has 2 location settings, and apparently I changed the wrong one. Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 05:10:31 PM
Holy hell
Bamboo Forest of The Lost is tiring and confusing as hell

Below is the sequence
Down up down left left right up right up up down up
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 31, 2014, 05:21:24 PM
According to the stat leaks, edit: sukuna's a focus tank and powerful at focus attacks, but her spread defense and attack are both lacking.

Turns out that's exactly it. Windows 8, for whatever reason, has 2 location settings, and apparently I changed the wrong one. Thanks for the help!

Well, that actually makes sense for someone that size. But am i right about Yoshika in that she is great defensivly?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: nyttyn on December 31, 2014, 05:27:34 PM
Well, that actually makes sense for someone that size. But am i right about Yoshika in that she is great defensivly?

You can find all the stats here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rkQauSHiC_6k7VC9CHsx0wxQfOtdqqQHmqxIkoTX-Ys/pubhtml)

As for yoshika, she's definitely a meat tank. Focus only, though - while her HP and focus defense are high, her spread defense is abysmal.

Edit: Keep in mind some mons get abilities to make up for their lackluster stats. For example kogasa might only be 480 bst but she has initmidate which is a huge boon.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 31, 2014, 05:35:22 PM
I wonder if you can reset spent EVs

Anyway, my team will be these 2hus i'll cycle through them whenever I feel like it
-

Mima (Nether/Light) [Power] "Complete Darkness"
Yuuka (Nature/Electric) [Defense] "Aegis"
Yuugi (Warrior/Water) [Defense] "Arcanum"
Yorihime (Steel/Electric) [Speed] "Templar"
Yumeko (Steel) [Speed] "Archer"
Konngara (Steel/Fire) [Speed] "Sasaki"
Kasen (Warrior/Illusion) [Power] "Arcana"
Komachi (Water/Steel) [Power] "Reaper"
Elly (Steel/Earth) [Defense] "Collector"
Lily (Mu) [Assist] "Kamina"
Tenshi (Earth/Light) [Defense] "Rhapsody"
Byakuren (Warrior/Light) [Speed] "Jesus"
-

Once people and I can do the online battle thing lets make things happen ye ye ye
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 31, 2014, 06:44:17 PM
In the trailer i saw something about Kokoro, is she a switch type?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 06:58:56 PM
In the trailer i saw something about Kokoro, is she a switch type?
I think it's just to show the style mechanic in the game, all dolls can change style I'm sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 31, 2014, 07:11:40 PM
I can't take waiting for an english patch I must plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay regardless of language!!!! *ahem* Question what are the starters and types they are?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on December 31, 2014, 07:14:29 PM
I think it's just to show the style mechanic in the game, all dolls can change style I'm sure.

Oh, since the trailer showed Kokoro doing it i thought that Kokoro was the only one who could style change because of her emotion changing Hopeless Masquerade depending on the attack she used. Speaking of Kokoro i hope she is in Urban Legend in Limbo because i would love to see what Zun and Twilight Frontier can do with a Kokoro that has discovered herself and developed emotions of her own.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 07:20:55 PM
I can't take waiting for an english patch I must plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay regardless of language!!!! *ahem* Question what are the starters and types they are?
You can pick any character as your starter. any
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
God! It took me a lot to capture Koakuma. Either I had an overleveled puppet that OHKO'd her or she escaped using an attack that currently Nue has.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 31, 2014, 07:36:29 PM
You can pick any character as your starter. any
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKO!!!!!!!!! -starry eye-d-

But, I want Sukuna too but I can get her outside the human village soooooooooooooooooooo Miko it is!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
Sukuna hangs out in the area directly south of the Hakurei Shrine so you can get her right away too.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
Sukuna hangs out in the area directly south of the Hakurei Shrine so you can get her right away too.
She's a bit rare, but not too much.
Also:
Human Village:
Common: Keine, Sekibanki and Kosuzu.
Rare: Akyuu
Very Rare: Kokoro.
Also my team now:
Rika (S), Kagerou (P), Shou (P), Nue(D), Kogasa (A) and of course Mai (D).
Rika is my main!! She OHKO'd Remilia's first and second puppets.
Kogasa lowered stats.
Kagerou, I was planning to use her against Flan but, Rika did everything.
Same for Shou.
Mai almost killed Remi.
Nue did the rest.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 31, 2014, 08:27:16 PM
I'm still trying to get use to the typing changes. I never played the 1.8 type on the ROMs so I'm still stuck on Pokemon's.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 08:40:02 PM
I don't really have problems anymore with what is (in-)effective against what but rather the typings of my enemy. :V
Most are obvious because the type-chart is fitted to the cast but then there are special forms that change around things and suddenly something that was super effective is resisted by the same character.
But the entrance animation of the characters always gives away their main typing so that's something.
I really like the entrance animations, they look really good.
This whole game looks so good.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 08:41:32 PM
I've traveled
up Youkai Mountain and am hanging around at the Moriya Shrine now.
Really like the style of capturing things. It's effectively kinda similar since they can resist the seal if too healthy but just by virtue of it being different it's interesting.

Kappa Valley
Nitori - common
Iku - less common
Komachi - kinda rare

Also Wakasagihime, common.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2014, 08:52:03 PM
I don't really have problems anymore with what is (in-)effective against what but rather the typings of my enemy. :V
Most are obvious because the type-chart is fitted to the cast but then there are special forms that change around things and suddenly something that was super effective is resisted by the same character.
But the entrance animation of the characters always gives away their main typing so that's something.
I really like the entrance animations, they look really good.
This whole game looks so good.
The entrance animations are so awesome, I love Nue's.
It's true the whole game looks good.
You can fight almost all characters puppets. I've just fought Wakasagihime.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on December 31, 2014, 11:23:38 PM
Road west of Hakurei Shrine that leads to Underground & area east of the Human Village behind rock

Kogasa - common
Sekibanki - less common
Mimi-Chan & Ruukoto - common
Yumemi - rare
Chiyuri - rare


Cave to Underground - first two floors

Kisume - common
Parsee - common
Yamame - less common
Suika - rare
Yuugi - rare


I stopped exploring there for the moment because it looks too much like the direction I'm supposed to go and I want to look at other things first that I'm able to reach.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Wypatroszony on December 31, 2014, 11:51:54 PM
Also, does anyone think they can help me? I'm trying to run the demo, and all my numbers look...super screwy.
(http://i.imgur.com/iXR17iK.png)
Don't use AppLocale. I found out that a different locale emulator is more fruitful to use.
My issue on win xp was that there was basically no text at all, it was screwy like on your screnshot with AppLocale and was absolutely clean on a different locale emu (NTLEA was the emu of choice.)

ed: Oh it turned out to be a resolved issue, but I'll let the post stay for others to see and use anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: commandercool on January 01, 2015, 12:09:55 AM
You can pick any character as your starter. any

 :o

That is such a cool mechanic. Do I remember reading that Keine is available in the wild early-game? That means starter Mokou for me then.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 01, 2015, 12:15:19 AM
So is every location of Gensokyo in this like... the Palace of Earth Spirits and the Shining Needle Castle, Scarlet Devil Mansion, Misty Lake, Bamboo Forest of the Lost, etc in the game? Also, i wish everyone a happy new year!  :)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 01, 2015, 12:27:21 AM
I suppose you can travel anywhere in Gensokyo while progressing through the story.
The only thing out of those that would be difficult to reach would be the Shining Needle Castle. The other ones I've either already visited or are most likely available (Palace of Earth Spirits).

and happy new year to you too


Northern Forest of Magic (from Kappa Valley)

Sunny - common
Star - common
Luna - common
Ellen  - less common
Marisa - rare

Northern Forest of Magic - southern area
Yuki - common
Mai - common
Rikako - common
Alice - less common
Marisa - rare
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Kirin no Sora on January 01, 2015, 01:09:58 AM
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but...

The guy that lets you choose your starter... I do believe that that's ZUN...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 01, 2015, 01:16:07 AM
Well i still haven't played it... because it still isn't in english, i would love to join the translation progress, however... is the game's alphabet, kanji ( if it is, then i will never be able to help in the translation because of the 2000+ characters ), Hiragana or Katakana actually what's the difference of Hiragana and Katakana?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 01, 2015, 01:26:02 AM
Hiragana are mostly for grammar-purposes and used in simple writing to write out the Kanji-phonetics.
Katakana are generally for imported words/names.

The names of all the characters you catch/seal in the game are in either Kata- or Hiragana (exception being either Yuugenmagan or Singyoku, one of them is in letters).
Dialogue is standard Japanese, meaning Kanji & Katana for words/names, Hiragana for grammar; generally speaking.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 01, 2015, 01:40:11 AM
Hiragana are mostly for grammar-purposes and used in simple writing to write out the Kanji-phonetics.
Katakana are generally for imported words/names.
The names of all the characters you catch/seal in the game are in either Kata- or Hiragana (exception being either Yuugenmagan or Singyoku, one of them is in letters).

Dialogue is standard Japanese, meaning Kanji & Katana for words/names, Hiragana for grammar; generally speaking.

Oh, so Katakana is used for names from other contries like Alice or Marisa or words. Hiragana is used for phrasis for example: Today was new year's eve, and Kanji is used for Someone's Name. In a Fantasy Maiden Wars like example then it would be like this

Name of Character ( Kanji ): Phrase ( Hiragana or Katakana depending on the word )

But for character names that such as Alice or Marisa then it would be written in Katakana.
Am i right? Well i think i will join the story translation then, the files aren't encrypted and most of the game's story is inside text files so it's easy to change.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on January 01, 2015, 02:14:30 AM
Not really.

Kanji are words borrowed from Chinese.
Katakana is as you said, words borrowed from a foreign country.
Hiragana, you could say, is the Japanese Alphabet.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 01, 2015, 02:33:29 AM
Not really.

Kanji are words borrowed from Chinese.
Katakana is as you said, words borrowed from a foreign country.
Hiragana, you could say, is the Japanese Alphabet.

Oh so Hiragana is the main writting alphabet. Oh so i?m good for the translation then, i will start tomorow! And luckily the dialoge is in Hiragana and Katakana, i probably will only translate text of the story and not the names that are written in Kanji. Aside from that i might join in the translation of puppet names and abilities ( maybe, but story translation definatily ). For anyone that also wants to join the translation progress, a translation group is already working on it here:

http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?board=15.0

Everyone is welcome in the translation of the game.

gn_dat1- Contains everything the game needs that isn't listed in here: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=354.0 you can also check the overall progress in that thread.
gn_dat2- It's all music, we don't need to touch this.
gn_dat3- Contains data related to the puppets (skills, abilities, etc). I also think this one is the one with the story.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Savory on January 01, 2015, 02:34:53 AM
I still wanna wait for a translation patch. I can't play an RPG in full Japanese xD
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2015, 02:44:17 AM
Kogasa just trolled Sanae... I'm so proud of my little girl.
Mai and Nue solo'ed Kanako. They just escaped and escaped.
Also Colticide can you try making Nue's attack animation??
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 01, 2015, 05:28:25 AM
Yep I'll post it later. Actually I wonder if I should combine it with the standing or just leave the two frame cast.

Also on the demo again, is there a way to release dolls? I got s horrid sukuna and replaced her but now I can't get rid of her.

Also speaking of translation, I'm not sure how I feel about the title being translated to touhou pdp. If you look at the beginning kana its Fantasy and not Eastern.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 01, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
Do check the first post for the 2humon locations ye
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 01, 2015, 05:34:33 AM
Do check the first post for the 2humon locations ye

Was that towards me?

I just need to release a doll not find one.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 01, 2015, 06:11:24 AM
Was that towards me?

I just need to release a doll not find one.

it was for everyone in general in case they didn't remember that i'm updating the first post as a masterlist
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 01, 2015, 08:47:16 AM
Not sure if this is what you wanted but let me know if not and I'll change it.
(http://puu.sh/dVdKd/cf909835c1.gif)

Also sorry for sounding like a broken record but anyone know how to release dolls in the demo?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 01, 2015, 09:40:32 AM
Muenzuka - first area

Medicine - common
Komachi - common
Nazrin - less common
Eiki - rare


Suzuran Field - second area
Rinnosuke - common
Renko - less common
Mari - less common
Eiki - less rare
Yukari - rare

Also found something new in an older area
Path down Mount Youkai
Kasen - very rare
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on January 01, 2015, 12:02:34 PM
Holy hell
Bamboo Forest of The Lost is tiring and confusing as hell

Below is the sequence
Down up down left left right up right up up down up

I think that most people would be able to clear this without much problem if they have played pokemon before. :V

I need some help with Flandre events at SDM
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 01, 2015, 01:00:32 PM
Keep going,
the area changes around you as you go. You will lose your sense of orientation, just live with it.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 01, 2015, 01:33:48 PM
Suzuran Field - first area

Medicine - common
Komachi - common
Nazrin - less common
Eiki - rare


Suzuran Field - second area
Rinnosuke - common
Renko - less common
Mari - less common
Eiki - less rare
Yukari - rare

Also found something new in an older area
Path down Mount Youkai
Kasen - very rare

What you wrote as
Suzuran Field(has white flowers)
should actually be
Muenzuka (red flowers)
(looking from drops)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 01, 2015, 02:00:54 PM
That is correct,
there are red flowers in that area and I mixed it up, thanks.
.
Fixed it.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 01, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
So where exactly do I go after defeating Kanako and getting off the mountain via rock smash path
And visited Muenzuka and now in the forest of magic next to this giant tree past Marisa's house

Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 01, 2015, 03:42:51 PM
There are more smashable rocks between Human Village and Hakurei Shrine.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 01, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
I haven't played really far yet but

Quote
Route to Forest of Magic:
Common: Rumia, Wriggle and Mystia.
Rare: Tokiko, Rika.

you forgot
Super Rare: Mimi & Ruukuto (they're combined into one 2humon)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Iris Hunter on January 01, 2015, 06:02:37 PM
stuck in Forest of Magic...
what to do?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Smashy on January 01, 2015, 06:12:30 PM
stuck in Forest of Magic...
what to do?

This one had me stuck for a while, too.  Assuming you've been to Alice, head back to Rinnosuke and then back to Akyuu.  If you've done everything there Keine should be there and they'll let you through the south exit of the Human Village.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Iris Hunter on January 01, 2015, 06:24:14 PM
This one had me stuck for a while, too.  Assuming you've been to Alice, head back to Rinnosuke and then back to Akyuu.  If you've done everything there Keine should be there and they'll let you through the south exit of the Human Village.
yes,i found her...
thank you very much ^^
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2015, 08:07:06 PM
Not sure if this is what you wanted but let me know if not and I'll change it.
(http://puu.sh/dVdKd/cf909835c1.gif)

Also sorry for sounding like a broken record but anyone know how to release dolls in the demo?

It's okay. I just loved that attack animation.

Also, I don't know how to release some dolls in full version, does somebody know here?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 01, 2015, 08:29:53 PM
It's okay. I just loved that attack animation.

Also, I don't know how to release some dolls in full version, does somebody know here?

Hina, but post-game
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2015, 08:39:11 PM
Hina, but post-game
OK then, time to work as much as possible.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Iris Hunter on January 01, 2015, 08:41:30 PM
uh...i'm kinda dumb,ikr.but what to do?
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Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2015, 08:57:36 PM
uh...i'm kinda dumb,ikr.but what to do?
[attach=1]
You still can't go there.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 01, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
I've noticed that the files with the Dolls images in it show a EX Keine, how do you get her?

Also a few of the file numbers seem to skip near the end, not sure if means a future expansion or not.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2015, 09:04:33 PM
I've noticed that the files with the Dolls images in it show a EX Keine, how do you get her?

Also a few of the file numbers seem to skip near the end, not sure if means a future expansion or not.
I don't know, I only found normal Keine, I also noticed it.

Let's hope for an expansion!!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 01, 2015, 09:14:53 PM
Probably Ex Keine is another rare puppet in the game, it should be in the Bamboo Forest of the Lost.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2015, 09:24:15 PM
I defeated Kanako. Went down the mountain (captured Kasen, still haven't found Tenshi.) Where do I have to go now?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: nyttyn on January 01, 2015, 09:48:20 PM
Keine-EX is kind of like a Darmantain-Z type deal -  she has an ability that makes her change forms once she drops below 50% HP.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2015, 09:54:46 PM
Winter Caves (Misty Lake)
Common: Cirno and Letty
Rare: Yuki and Mai O_O
(http://puu.sh/dWq33/a5df85c85c.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 01, 2015, 10:37:43 PM
sort of spoiler-ish but then not really

(http://puu.sh/dWlPr/f4ae400f07.png)

CLUTCH PLAAAAYS
kinda sucks when the only 'mons you have over 40 are weak to remilia's gunghirs  :V also probably the first battle I had to keep referring to the type chart for.

also I went to make my own medi kokoro display pic since I couldn't decide between them and tojiko  :getdown:

Personally I'm having a pure waifu-only run in this game, although some of my friends are doing the catching-'em-all thing.



Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 01, 2015, 11:18:47 PM
also I went to make my own medi kokoro display pic since I couldn't decide between them and tojiko  :getdown:

Personally I'm having a pure waifu-only run in this game, although some of my friends are doing the catching-'em-all thing.

It's always tough to choose multiple characters to show off when you love them all.

Kinda the same for me but I only use the "waifu" ones but keep the rest in storage, I'm a collection whore.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 01, 2015, 11:25:46 PM
It's always tough to choose multiple characters to show off when you love them all.

Kinda the same for me but I only use the "waifu" ones but keep the rest in storage, I'm a collection whore.
This will probably be my downfall too.

Edit: Ok... I'm seriously stuck on the beginning I picked my starter or so I think and don't know what to do next.

Edit 2: Nevermind I just realized I missed two people to talk too Mari and Renko.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 01, 2015, 11:47:24 PM
This will probably be my downfall too.

Edit: Ok... I'm seriously stuck on the beginning I picked my starter or so I think and don't know what to do next.

Have you found merry and renko behind the shrine yet?  Some people have said talking to them is necessary but iunno anyway just try talking to everyone and then proceed to the path with ZUN, your journey begins when you see this tiny yukari run away
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 01, 2015, 11:50:00 PM
Have you found merry and renko behind the shrine yet?  Some people have said talking to them is necessary but iunno anyway just try talking to everyone and then proceed to the path with ZUN, your journey begins when you see this tiny yukari run away

I just figured that out and now fighting Mini Miko since I wanted her the most.

Edit: Also this game is so fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun.~ I just need to figure out stuff.

Edit 2: It seems that Mini Miko comes with a Light based attack boost because I two shotted Marisa using that and fired Danmaku at her, I feel dirty now for picking her but it's sooooooo fuuuuuuuuun.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 02, 2015, 12:26:01 AM
Underground after Village

Kasen
Suika
Parsee
Yuugi


Chireiden

Satori - common
Utsuho - less common
Rin - less common
Koishi - rare


Hell of Blazing Fires

Utsuho - common
Yuugi - common
Rin - less common
Kikuri - kinda rare
Kongara - rare (less rare on lower levels)


Path west of Human Village

Luize - less common
Lily - common
Daiyousei - common
Meira - less rare
Mamizou - rare


Suzuran Hill


Medicine - common
Reisen - less common
Eirin - less common


Road of Liminality (?)

Elly - common
Orange - common
Kurumi - common
Mugetsu - rare
Gengetsu - rare


Cave at the Road of Liminality

Kisume - common
Yamame - less common
Sara - common
Koishi - rare


Garden of the Sun

Wriggle - common
Lyrica - common
Merlin - common
Lunasa - less common
Yuuka - less common


Area north of Garden of Sun

Yatsuhashi - common
Benben - common
Seija - less common
Sekibanki - common
Raiko - rare


Eastern Misty Lake behind smashrocks
Lunasa - common
Merlin - common
Lyrica - common
Kana - less common


Common: Letty
I could've had her this early!? :getdown:  AND Lunasa too! damnit.
and I even surfed over the entire Misty Lake, or so I thought. How could I miss that...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Iris Hunter on January 02, 2015, 12:44:17 AM
i've beaten everyone in eientei
where's mokou'?
uh and also i am kinda lucky or some touhous listed as rares are common...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 02, 2015, 12:44:31 AM
I could've had her this early!? :getdown:  AND Lunasa too! damnit.
Lol, I was just roaming around the lake and found a cave, decided to enter beacause why not?
Finds Letty and Yuki. OH MY GOD!!
i've beaten everyone in eientei
where's mokou'?
uh and also i am kinda lucky or some touhous listed as rares are common...
Down Up Down Left Left Right Up Left. You'll find Mokou there.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 01:44:34 AM
I kinda find it weird that Mini Byakuren is not near the Myouren temple weird....
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 02, 2015, 03:11:39 AM
Focus- Attack Stat
Spread- Special Attack Stat

Am i right?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 02, 2015, 03:50:47 AM
Focus- Attack Stat
Spread- Special Attack Stat

Am i right?

Pretty much. The last stat is speed right?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 03:59:47 AM
Ack now I'm stuck in the Human Village and just beaten Cirno what do???

Edit: Nevermind time to play cat and mouse with Team 9 XD
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 02, 2015, 04:24:11 AM
Ack now I'm stuck in the Human Village and just beaten Cirno what do???

Edit: Nevermind time to play cat and mouse with Team 9 XD
I'm not sure if that's where the demo ends. Let me know how you get further cause I need to see more of the demo
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 04:27:11 AM
I'm not sure if that's where the demo ends. Let me know how you get further cause I need to see more of the demo
I'm actually playing the full version, also update Akyuu to common because they keep popping up everywhere in the Human Village grass... when I really wanna catch Kokoro also if anyone knows where Mini Byakuren is give me a heads up.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 02, 2015, 04:28:33 AM
I'm actually playing the full version.
I know but I'd still like to know since I'm sure I'll get stuck again.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 04:29:24 AM
I know but I'd still like to know since I'm sure I'll get stuck again.
Roger that I'll do my best to help out from what I remember the last demo ended up with the Reimu battle and that's it.

Edit: Speaking of that while I was posting a Mini Kokoro decides to say hello to me.

Notes 1: Just fought Reimu when I got premission to exit the village after beating up Rumia  who had a Mini Team 9 going on.... ugh she really torn my Miko and Chen up thank goodness I gave Sukuna some defense or she would of been dead when she had 7 HP left.

Reimu Team: Aya, Suika, and Reimu.

Edit 2: Add Lily White to the Route to Forest of Magic List
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on January 02, 2015, 07:05:42 AM
So I haven't really looked at the game yet, but is it possible to make a randomizer patch for it? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 02, 2015, 07:27:31 AM
Notes 1: Just fought Reimu when I got premission to exit the village after beating up Rumia  who had a Mini Team 9 going on.... ugh she really torn my Miko and Chen up thank goodness I gave Sukuna some defense or she would of been dead when she had 7 HP left.

Right after I beat up Rumia is where I get stuck, no idea where to go after that and not sure how to find Reimu.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 07:30:16 AM
Right after I beat up Rumia is where I get stuck, no idea where to go after that and not sure how to find Reimu.
Well Akyuu founded me and gave me something after that I went left to where the food cart was blocking the way and that was when I found Reimu she was "Sup Noob Imma fight you because you be a noob" while I was like "Wait what???"

In other words go left after you beat up Team 9 in the Human village and get whatever Akyuu rewards you with for beating them down then go left to where the food cart is now gone.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Iris Hunter on January 02, 2015, 11:15:12 AM
that crappy text problem made things hard(it even shows numbers as a crappy text wth),so i tried applocale,locale emulator,and changing my pc's locale.
why am i still getting this?
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 02, 2015, 01:01:23 PM
Behind Hakurei Shrine

Luna - common
Star - common
Sunny - common
Shingyoku - less common
Reimu - rare


So, the image/sprites/youknowwhat are already being extracted and stuff but what about the music?
Because I need those arranges of Yuuka's themes!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Iris Hunter on January 02, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
So, the image/sprites/youknowwhat are already being extracted and stuff but what about the music?
Because I need those arranges of Yuuka's themes!
musics files are extracted too
i found them and now i'm listening old distant hermit one
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 05:46:03 PM
Does anyone have any ides on how to beat Mokou at Eientei? My Miko can take out her Keine in one shot with her fire move and I have no trouble with her Futo, but when it comes to her Mokou she one shots EVERYBODY!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 02, 2015, 06:26:27 PM
If nothing else helps you could go and catch Eirin right in front of Eientei. She's Miasma/Water and decently robust.
Other than that more info on your team would be useful.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 02, 2015, 06:35:27 PM
So, the image/sprites/youknowwhat are already being extracted and stuff but what about the music?
Because I need those arranges of Yuuka's themes!

All the music is in OGG format, not sure when there will be MP3s of it though.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 07:11:42 PM
If nothing else helps you could go and catch Eirin right in front of Eientei. She's Miasma/Water and decently robust.
Other than that more info on your team would be useful.
Miko, Futo, Kokoro, Rika, Alice, and Sukuna.

I did catch an Eirin last night so Imma grind her good enough to get rid of that damn annoying one-shotting Mokou. To make things stupider my Miko is level 28.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 02, 2015, 07:22:04 PM
Well, that party is awefully vulnerable to fire :V
and that comes from me who tends to somehow never have fire-resistances.

I actually remember the levels I was at when I got there because my quick levelers already passed 30 and the others were close to it.
It's strange because I didn't grind one bit. I did spend some time sealing things though so maybe that's the reason.

Mokou does make quite a jump in level too compared to everything else. If anything then that's my only complaint, that the run-of-the-mill trainers are way too low leveled and that I still haven't found a way to shut off shared experience. Kurumi levels too fast and never gets any screentime because of that. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
Well, that party is awefully vulnerable to fire :V
and that comes from me who tends to somehow never have fire-resistances.

I actually remember the levels I was at when I got there because my quick levelers already passed 30 and the others were close to it.
It's strange because I didn't grind one bit. I did spend some time sealing things though so maybe that's the reason.

Mokou does make quite a jump in level too compared to everything else. If anything then that's my only complaint, that the run-of-the-mill trainers are way too low leveled and that I still haven't found a way to shut off shared experience. Kurumi levels too fast and never gets any screentime because of that. :V
Gawd damn it I got shitty luck on that one then thankfully- wait a minute I have Futo with a water field so wtf??? -sighs- Time to go grind my Eirin up and settle the score.

Edit: Also did anyone update their full version of Touhoumon to 1.03 yet?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 02, 2015, 08:13:38 PM
Started playing. Sort of? Spent most of my play time so far looking for a decent kokoro though.
Edit: Also did anyone update their full version of Touhoumon to 1.03 yet?
Is there a reason not to?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 02, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
For Mokou you can bring Eirin, Kogasa, Mai, Cirno, Letty or any water puppet. Common sense fire weak to water. Mai one-shotted Mokou, and she's Defense.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 08:38:55 PM
@shurcle: Just making sure everybody did.

Also I found a Mini Byakuren in the Myouren Temple grass I think she falls under Rare.

@KogasaxNue: I'm training up my Eirin right now to be able to do so.

Edit: Miko style change get, now to decide what I want.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 02, 2015, 08:55:20 PM
I've spent way too much time looking for a good spread attack kokoro.
Decided to start keeping track of the encounter rates at some point so I can see exactly how rare kokoro is.
So far... 6%... and all of them have at least 3 Es. I need to move on.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 10:08:49 PM
Keeping Speed Miko due to she tanked Mokou's attacks lol and thankfully powered during her Futo's attacks it was fun.

Edit: Question how to get to the other section of the Bamboo Forest?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 02, 2015, 10:53:30 PM
Question how to get to the other section of the Bamboo Forest?
I was about to ask this.
Also. Anybody found Raiko?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2015, 11:33:20 PM
Character limit for nicknaming a Puppet is 10 letters apparently.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 02, 2015, 11:40:06 PM
Apparently I'm lost in Muenzuka. I'm in front of a huge tree. Does this mean it's a dead-end?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Iris Hunter on January 02, 2015, 11:50:42 PM
i encountered aya,and fought with meiling.
what now?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 12:39:52 AM
How do you fullscreen? Also there is already a rough translation you can apply. Simple  " save image as " the name in black and to it's proper destinations. For graphical interfaces go here: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=357.0 granted not all of them are done, and it WILL take a bit of time to overwrite the corresponding file. VERY Rough translated script ( not all of it ) : http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=364.0.  Items: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=368.0. Abilities: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=360.0. Translated Doll Name:  http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=361.0.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 03, 2015, 01:02:02 AM
Really not sure why they translated it to touhou PDP, its actually fantasy PDP. I wonder if its so it can be identified easier. Also someone is getting me the game soon! I think sometime tomorrow. I have no idea on a starter!?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 03, 2015, 01:03:15 AM
How do you fullscreen? Also there is already a rough translation you can apply. Simple  " save image as " the name in black and to it's proper destinations. For graphical interfaces go here: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=357.0 granted not all of them are done, and it WILL take a bit of time to overwrite the corresponding file. VERY Rough translated script ( not all of it ) : http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=364.0.  Items: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=368.0. Abilities: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=360.0. Translated Doll Name:  http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=361.0.
How do you recompile the .arc files?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 01:29:20 AM
How do you recompile the .arc files?

Go here: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=354.0
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 03, 2015, 01:40:32 AM
The game just runs straight off the folder no problem? Unexpectedly low security.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 01:59:33 AM
The game just runs straight off the folder no problem? Unexpectedly low security.

Well it makes things easier ESPECIALLY when comparing Touhou Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance's security to the Touhou Fantasy Maiden Wars or Devil of Decline security. And it works without a problem, at least for me ( except the dialoge rough translation ).
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 02:51:27 AM
I completely forgot! The folks translating this didn't put the demo interface translations in a the translated interface threads... so they are in the demo translation thread over here ( they also work for the full version ).  http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=303.0 trust me over here are important interfaces that aren't in the graphical one for the full version but these also work for the full version!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on January 03, 2015, 03:16:12 AM
Cave to Makai

Hijiri - less common
Yuugenmagan - kinda rare
Yuuka - less common
Elis - rare
Sara - common
Sariel - rare
Reimu - less common
Marisa - less common
Mima - rare


Provincial Makai City
Rarity estimates are more vague for this one

Sara
Luize - common
Alice
Mai - less common
Yuki - less common
Yumeko - less rare
Shinki - rare


I have a completed list of characters now except for the moon people. Haven't found them yet, I guess they are in another hidden area in the Bamboo Forest or something. The Eientei residents haven't had any useful information.
Or Yukari sends you to the moon after you fight her but haven't done that yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 03, 2015, 03:57:46 AM
Um Yookie, Hijiri can be found in the Myouren temple grass also she's less common there too.

Also... THIS FLANDRE RUNNING AROUND CRAP IS MAKING MY HEAD SPIN. >____< I'm trying to grind to knock Remilia down just uuuuuuuuugh Flandre stop running around I already lost 100lbs running around in the mansion.

Current Party: Assist Eirin, Speed Tojiko, Speed Miko, Speed Futo, Power Reisen, and Power Rika.

Speedy Taoists for the win <3

Edit: SO HAPPY Speed Miko survived Remilia's Power Mini version of herself and one-shotted her YES TAKE THAT REMILIA, also she is the Name changing npc after you beat her.

Edit 2: Now to wonder where the heck do I go after beating Remilia and encountering Aya any information would be helpful.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Ranmilia on January 03, 2015, 08:20:16 AM
Just to fill it in, Raiko is a rare encounter on the route after Garden of the Sun, where Benben, Yatsuhashi and Seija are also found.  Toyohime and Yorihime are very rare in the area south of the Misty Lake where Orange and Rinnosuke can be encountered.  (Yes, that's a pretty random spot for them.  They might be somewhere around Eientei as well, I dunno.)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 08:36:29 AM
I have just finished my small contribution towards the translation progress of this game... what was that contribution? Why translating the file named StandName!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on January 03, 2015, 08:55:10 AM
I have just finished my small contribution towards the translation progress of this game... what was that contribution? Why translating the file named StandName!

I didn't know touhoumons have Stands......  :V

I want to thank and curse you all at the same time: thank for the effort in mapping out the game and the translation, curse because you makes me want to play the game but i want to wait until it's translated and do a blind nuzlocke of it!  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 09:05:44 AM
I didn't know touhoumons have Stands......  :V

I want to thank and curse you all at the same time: thank for the effort in mapping out the game and the translation, curse because you makes me want to play the game but i want to wait until it's translated and do a blind nuzlocke of it!  :D

Actually my only contribution so far was translating a csv file, which wasn't that hard honestly and i also don't play the game because i want to wait until the translation is finished.

I love the stands character images they are so cute  :3

Here's a few of them ( black background is a formating issue )
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 03, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
I didn't know touhoumons have Stands......  :V

I want to thank and curse you all at the same time: thank for the effort in mapping out the game and the translation, curse because you makes me want to play the game but i want to wait until it's translated and do a blind nuzlocke of it!  :D

Well we all know who Sakuya has as her stand. :D

Well looking the the forums the translation is on it looks to be going pretty quickly. I'm not even sure what I could help with but image editing, but all the important ones are already done.

Actually my only contribution so far was translating a csv file, which wasn't that hard honestly

I love the stands character images they are so cute  :3

Here's a few of them ( black background is a formating issue )

The best thing is that this shows EVERY character in a art style that isn't in Alphes, that and the sprites are great. I'm very much sensing RPG maker use, hell I really want to use these! (Plus dat music!)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 09:18:51 AM
Well we all know who Sakuya has as her stand. :D

Well looking the the forums the translation is on it looks to be going pretty quickly. I'm not even sure what I could help with but image editing, but all the important ones are already done.

The best thing is that this shows EVERY character in a art style that isn't in Alphes, that and the sprites are great. I'm very much sensing RPG maker use, hell I really want to use these! (Plus dat music!)

It's true the translation for the full version has started 5 days ago and they are already done with gn_dat1 and almost done with gn_dat3 ( remember gn_dat2 is music ) , granted they ported some resources they made for the demo version which is compatible with the full version which speed up things considerably. The art is very cute  :3 reminds me of Pokemon X and Y as well as Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire trainer artwork that shows up before you fight them!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 03, 2015, 09:31:24 AM
Well... I'd say these are closer but still its in an actual game and not just fanart.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/b46de0927059deed78cb5135f7b7bc4d/tumblr_n0pe88TZvx1rd8d28o5_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 09:35:11 AM
Well... I'd say these are closer but still its in an actual game and not just fanart.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/b46de0927059deed78cb5135f7b7bc4d/tumblr_n0pe88TZvx1rd8d28o5_1280.jpg)

Is this fanart or from the actual game?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 03, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
Is this fanart or from the actual game?

Just fanart, but it's got every character as well, Yukari is the campion in the set, they look cool as hell. A few forum members have them as avatars.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 09:58:46 AM
Just fanart, but it's got every character as well, Yukari is the campion in the set, they look cool as hell. A few forum members have them as avatars.

Oh okay.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 03, 2015, 11:14:44 AM
In the bamboo forest there's an alternate path (besides reaching eientei and or mokou's house) that leads to this shaded area that has reisen II and the two moon people (and also a TM/spellcard) but you need cut to access it (there are tree bushes in the way)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 03, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
Is this fanart or from the actual game?
It can be in the actual game with a little editing. :)

I keep forgetting I shouldn't send nue out to fight nazrin. It'll save me a couple trips to heal. Still obsessively cataloging doll encounter rates rather than making actual progress in the game. Not happy until I get a sample size of at least 50. I heard flandre is sitting somewhere between 1/100 or 1/200 encounters? That's going to be fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 03, 2015, 01:40:52 PM
It can be in the actual game with a little editing. :)

I keep forgetting I shouldn't send nue out to fight nazrin. It'll save me a couple trips to heal. Still obsessively cataloging doll encounter rates rather than making actual progress in the game. Not happy until I get a sample size of at least 50. I heard flandre is sitting somewhere between 1/100 or 1/200 encounters? That's going to be fun.

Personally I found her maybe at a 1/50 rate, I was in the basement for a long while :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 03, 2015, 08:38:55 PM
In the bamboo forest there's an alternate path (besides reaching eientei and or mokou's house) that leads to this shaded area that has reisen II and the two moon people (and also a TM/spellcard) but you need cut to access it (there are tree bushes in the way)
Do you know the way to the alternate path?

Also... I still need help finding out where to go next after beating Meiling and encountering Aya.

Question: Do I have to beat Flandre also?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 03, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
Finally getting started! But ... now I've no idea who to pick as a starter or to even use on my end game team, I try and come up with 6 but then I see a common weakness but then I want to use more then I can use... dammit why touhou! Why you make me have favorites!? At least in pokemon I can commonly pick 6 and don't care who else I use...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 03, 2015, 09:31:43 PM
Finally getting started! But ... now I've no idea who to pick as a starter or to even use on my end game team, I try and come up with 6 but then I see a common weakness but then I want to use more then I can use... dammit why touhou! Why you make me have favorites!? At least in pokemon I can commonly pick 6 and don't care who else I use...

That's the fun of clearing a game with the added difficulty of using 'mons you like! A few of my 2humons can get wiped by Reimu/Remilia but t-that's the fun of using your waifus, r-right

Do you know the way to the alternate path?

Also... I still need help finding out where to go next after beating Meiling and encountering Aya.

Question: Do I have to beat Flandre also?

down up down left left right up right up up down up = Eientei
down up down left left right up left = empty house (mokou's house, find her there post-game for a battle)
down up down left left right up right up down = trees (you need the Cut item from Eirin) = a TM and moon 2hus puppets in the grass

Asking around, no one has actually caught Flan yet and she's probably a post-game battle just like the other EX bosses (probably) so just clear Remi and get to Youkai Mountain
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Finally getting started! But ... now I've no idea who to pick as a starter or to even use on my end game team, I try and come up with 6 but then I see a common weakness but then I want to use more then I can use... dammit why touhou! Why you make me have favorites!? At least in pokemon I can commonly pick 6 and don't care who else I use...

I have a basic idea of who i will pick:

Speed Marisa or Defense Reimu
Defense Shinmyoumaru Sakuna or Assist or Defense Satori
Power Kokoro
Assist Eirin or Speed Futo
Power Orin or
Power Mokou or Power Utsuho or Speed Byakuren or Power Miko


Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 03, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
That's the fun of clearing a game with the added difficulty of using 'mons you like! A few of my 2humons can get wiped by Reimu/Remilia but t-that's the fun of using your waifus, r-right

down up down left left right up right up up down up = Eientei
down up down left left right up left = empty house (mokou's house, find her there post-game for a battle)
down up down left left right up right up down = trees (you need the Cut item from Eirin) = a TM and moon 2hus puppets in the grass

Asking around, no one has actually caught Flan yet and she's probably a post-game battle just like the other EX bosses (probably) so just clear Remi and get to Youkai Mountain
Thanks Pasu and how do I get to Youkai Mountain by the way that's my last dumb question and I'll be done.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 03, 2015, 10:11:44 PM
I have a basic idea of who i will pick:

Speed Marisa or Defense Reimu
Defense Shinmyoumaru Sakuna or Assist or Defense Satori
Power Kokoro
Assist Eirin or Speed Futo
Power Orin or
Power Mokou or Power Utsuho or Speed Byakuren or Power Miko

Do each doll have their prefered stat? Like how Absol is good at attack but has very poor defense. Or are the puppets pretty balanced to where it only matters on your IVs?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 03, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
Just a heads up the latest version is 1.05.~ Also... I might start training up a Byakuren for just in encase.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 11:00:49 PM
Do each doll have their prefered stat? Like how Absol is good at attack but has very poor defense. Or are the puppets pretty balanced to where it only matters on your IVs?

Actually i don't know but they probably do. By the way here are the Touhoumon's stats you can check it out here:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rkQauSHiC_6k7VC9CHsx0wxQfOtdqqQHmqxIkoTX-Ys/pubhtml

By the way, has someone made a type chart for this game? Also has anyone aplyed the graphical interface translations?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 03, 2015, 11:04:56 PM
Just a heads up the latest version is 1.05.~ Also... I might start training up a Byakuren for just in encase.

What are they updating so much for?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 03, 2015, 11:20:49 PM
What are they updating so much for?
Bugs most likely.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 03, 2015, 11:21:33 PM
What are they updating so much for?

Probably to bugfix i hope, also... i am getting a deja vu here, they might make do the same as Sanbondo...
In the 1.02 to 1.03 they they remove a file from 1.02.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 03, 2015, 11:38:15 PM
By the way, has someone made a type chart for this game? Also has anyone aplyed the graphical interface translations?
There are a few, but I just use one edited from the one given on the official site.
(http://puu.sh/e29hL/2051c7e607.png)
It works for the most part so I didn't feel like making it any better.
What are they updating so much for?
The changelog contains mostly bug and typo fixes.
One revision on nue.
Something about being able to see the edge of the map if you walk far enough.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: divinefrog on January 03, 2015, 11:57:00 PM
So, I read that there would be a legitimate direct download option, but when I go to the main website, as far as I can tell, then download section is still just patches. Does anyone know where I can buy it online, or if it's not available yet, will it be at some point?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 03, 2015, 11:59:45 PM
It's a miracle I found out where to go it was by going left then down from the Scarlet Devil mansion.

Hmmm... I'm getting a bad feeling Imma need some more back up for what's to come.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 04, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
Speaking of update patches... i can't for the life of me update the game to 1.02 or 1.03 or even 1.05! Is anyone also having this issue?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 04, 2015, 12:07:06 AM
Speaking of update patches... i can't for the life of me update the game to 1.02 or 1.03 or even 1.05! Is anyone also having this issue?
If you didn't install the game from disc or other means, you need to make sure "...AppData\Roaming\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞\gn_enbu.ini" exists and has a patch to where your game is. I think you need to have the unmodified .arc files there as well so they can actually be patched.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 04, 2015, 12:12:59 AM
If you didn't install the game from disc or other means, you need to make sure "...AppData\Roaming\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞\gn_enbu.ini" exists and has a patch to where your game is. I think you need to have the unmodified .arc files there as well so they can actually be patched.


Do i need to have the patch in that folder?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 04, 2015, 12:18:01 AM


Do i need to have the patch in that folder?
I believe the patch just checks the game is actually installed first and then lets you pick where you installed the game to patch it.
I just dropped the patch into the same folder as the game so I can't say for sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 04, 2015, 12:38:45 AM
It gives me an error telling me " failed to opem udm file "
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 04, 2015, 12:45:53 AM
I've never had that error before. The patcher goes straight to asking me where my game is installed as long as that file exists and says
"[InstallSettings]
InstallPath=yourinstallpathhere"
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on January 04, 2015, 01:26:49 AM
Quote
Do each doll have their prefered stat? Like how Absol is good at attack but has very poor defense. Or are the puppets pretty balanced to where it only matters on your IVs?

From looking at the stat chart, it seems like there are specialize stat for each doll. It is similar to Pok?mon in this, so you can't have something crazy like an Offensive Shuckle or something.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: BlackKnifeSakuya on January 04, 2015, 02:13:27 AM
Myouren Temple:
Common: Ichirin, Nazrin and Kyouko
Rare: Murasa, Hijiri
Very rare: Shou

(my opinion)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 03:00:43 AM
*giggles* Silly Kappas stop sending water based Puppets that my Speed Tojiko can just easily zap. I'm so happy though I got a mother effing boat!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 03:42:29 AM
*giggles* Silly Kappas stop sending water based Puppets that my Speed Tojiko can just easily zap. I'm so happy though I got a mother effing boat!
Lol. Shou, just do your job.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 04:20:39 AM
Lol. Shou, just do your job.
Also funny thing happened with me fighting Reimu she had her Defense Suika out and killed almost half of my party I threw out my Speed Futo and used the wind based Danmaku attack and killed her, but in turn her power Reimu killed my Futo when I had her spam the Wind Danamku and my reaction was "OH FUCK THIS" *sends out Power Rika and uses Thunder Danmaku and one shots her Power Reimu* who's the main character now?~  >:D
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 04:23:27 AM
Also funny thing with me fighting Reimu she had her Defense Suika out and killed almost half of my party I threw out my Speed Futo and used the wind based Danmaku attack and killed her, but in turn her power Reimu killed my Futo when I had her spam the Wind Danamku and my reaction was "OH FUCK THIS" *sends out Power Rika and uses Thunder Danmaku and one shots her Power Reimu* not the main character now?~  >:D
I also used Rika for the fight, except mine was speed.
Currently at hell. Konngara is way too weak for my puppets. Especially Eiki, which is my weakest puppet currently. I just can't put the f***ing seal before I one-shot her...
Kikuri (rare puppet, more rare than Konngara), on the other hand... joins at first try...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 04:38:17 AM
Defense Sukuna get after beating up Momiji. Wooo at this rate I'm really feeling it that I can burn through Youkai Mountain tonight!

Edit: Defense Sukuna is so cute and tiny.  :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 04:41:08 AM
Defense Sukuna get after beating up Momiji. Wooo at this rate I'm really feeling it that I can burn through Youkai Mountain tonight!
Levels? I can confirm if you can.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 04:59:05 AM
Levels? I can confirm if you can.

Speed Tojiko level 45, Speed Miko Level 44, Speed Futo Level 39, Power Rika Level 46, Assist Eirin Level 41, and Defense Sukuna Level 33.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Smashy on January 04, 2015, 04:59:29 AM
So can you actually fight
Flandre in the SDM basement
or does she just run around avoiding you all the time?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 05:02:50 AM
So can you actually fight
Flandre in the SDM basement
or does she just run around avoiding you all the time?
Some I think said nobody caught her yet, so we're assuming she's gonna be a post-game battle.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 05:15:10 AM
Speed Tojiko level 44, Speed Miko Level 43, Speed Futo Level 38, Power Rika Level 46, Assist Eirin Level 40, and Defense Sukuna Level 33.
Try leveling them to 50 (or maybe a bit higher) for Kanako and Sanae.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 05:16:51 AM
Try leveling them to 50 (or maybe a bit higher) for Kanako and Sanae.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of you as I kept editing my original post, thank you for the advice I thought I was gonna need to be a bit more higher.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 05:18:36 AM
Beat Medicine easily.
Konngara, it took me a while, but I captured her.
Also captured Luize, whom I'm going to level up to use later, because Makai lover...
EDIT: I understand Luize, I love you too but, can you stop appearing? I want Meira...
EDIT2: Seconds after modyfing the post. Meira appears :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 06:05:54 AM
Beaten Sanae by the skin of my teeth due to a lucky burn my Rika managed to get off on Speed Sanae before dying and me just stalling thankfully it was just a teensy bit of health she had left. I'm now heading toward who knows where...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: NekoNekoRex on January 04, 2015, 10:32:37 AM

(http://puu.sh/dNyUX/fec04d9078.gif)
@w@ I was wondering where all these adorable little sprites were coming from, and even better that there's a Chen one for the taking!

I thought this game was only a demo, but I think I'll look into playing it now if it's a full release, and see what of the patches I can get working on here.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 04, 2015, 05:14:44 PM
Well i can't find Zun so i can have my starter so here are a few screenshots which i think are relevant.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 06:44:50 PM
Beaten Sanae by the skin of my teeth due to a lucky burn my Rika managed to get off on Speed Sanae before dying and me just stalling thankfully it was just a teensy bit of health she had left. I'm now heading toward who knows where...
Go and beat Kanako.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Underground after Village
Suzuran Hill


Medicine - common
Reisen - less common
Eirin - less common
Daiyousei too. Less common.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
Go and beat Kanako.
Funny thing I know who I'm using against Kanako and it's Sukuna thanks to me exposing their Steel weakness on Sanae's own just gotta train her and plus I'm distracted by one of my favorite 3 games that I got from a steam sale before I go and see the Circus.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 08:15:02 PM
WOW! Yuuka's song is great! I loved it. She also changed the life of living in a huge mansion to live in a small and cute house.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 04, 2015, 08:37:14 PM
WOW! Yuuka's song is great! I loved it. She also changed the life of living in a huge mansion to live in a small and cute house.

You know the name of her song in the file? I really want to listen!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 08:48:45 PM
You know the name of her song in the file? I really want to listen!
it's nksB4. It's great!
Also Rika for queen of crits!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sahgren on January 04, 2015, 08:52:57 PM
Well i can't find Zun so i can have my starter so here are a few screenshots which i think are relevant.

It looks like you're using the 1.0X demo, which only allows you to have Reimu as a starter. The 2.02 demo (http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.html) and full release have Maribel and Renko in a different spot and ZUN added to the second screenshot.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 04, 2015, 09:27:37 PM
it's nksB4. It's great!
Also Rika for queen of crits!

Oh the pc98 one! I was thinking of her pofv one.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 04, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
It looks like you're using the 1.0X demo, which only allows you to have Reimu as a starter. The 2.02 demo (http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.html) and full release have Maribel and Renko in a different spot and ZUN added to the second screenshot.

No i am using the full version, alas i solved the problem with a little help form Touhou Puppet Play Forums.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 09:54:46 PM
Well, I can make some gifs but they are small...
(http://puu.sh/dOZ0v/2faab1f474.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4IXV/bec6c0ec96.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4GSR/74cbc2380b.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4Fqt/c4c4eb6ff0.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4DYp/1eed91c56d.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4Cjt/2485bf5acb.gif)
Of course I had to make my current team.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on January 04, 2015, 10:13:36 PM
Well, I can make some gifs but they are small...
(http://puu.sh/dOZ0v/2faab1f474.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4IXV/bec6c0ec96.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4GSR/74cbc2380b.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4Fqt/c4c4eb6ff0.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4DYp/1eed91c56d.gif)(http://puu.sh/e4Cjt/2485bf5acb.gif)
Of course I had to make my current team.

....the heck? Is just a "wind" effect or Eiki basically shakes her butt? O_o
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2015, 10:22:39 PM
....the heck? Is just a "wind" effect or Eiki basically shakes her butt? O_o
Lol the second.
EDIT:
Here's Yuuka:
(http://puu.sh/e4WT3/16df7b838b.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 04, 2015, 11:50:37 PM
....the heck? Is just a "wind" effect or Eiki basically shakes her butt? O_o

I'm fine with it, Eiki-sama just showing she has moves!

Lol the second.
EDIT:
Here's Yuuka:
(http://puu.sh/e4WT3/16df7b838b.gif)

What size are your gifs in? Also these small ones gives me an idea on "trainer" cards...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 05, 2015, 12:13:28 AM
What size are your gifs in? Also these small ones gives me an idea on "trainer" cards...
They're just as big as they show in their file.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 05, 2015, 05:36:30 AM
I should really update the first post!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 05, 2015, 11:04:43 AM
If you, for some reason, like to get perfect Individual Values for a doll,
you should save up on 魔力の欠片 (things that sell for 200 yen, its description does hint that it might have other uses).

I'll post more when I get more of these.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 05, 2015, 12:57:28 PM
Well now it feels like PDP might get a tier list. Found this on the Puppet play forums. Personally I only found about 2 or 3 puppets I had planned on using before seeing this.



"This is a list of puppets that seem really powerful, to the point where every team needs to dedicate their strategy to beating them, or which might have a very undesirable effect on the game by existing (Moody comes to mind). When/if stuff is being investigated, perhaps interesting to look here first. As moveset information is not fully available yet this should be taken as a tentative list, additional puppets are to be added and removed as more information becomes available and playtest data is gathered. In most cases, it seems that the 'ability' of the puppet is the thing that is most worrisome, there are a few really good ones.

Nimble

Nimble as an ability doubles a statistic. Doubling a statistic is the same as adding a whole lot of BST to your puppet, effectively 50 plus the value of the stat being doubled.

Power Sakuya

Nimble gives her effective 635 BST, but she can't carry items. She outspeeds almost anything, the exceptions being weather puppets, Yamame, and her own Speed variant, and has an excellent 135 base ATK (only 8 puppets have higher attack). Also has a good movepool, with several coverage options, and of course access to stat-enhancement to top it all off.

Power Yamame

Moody

Moody raises stats by +1 each turn. Since the stat being raised is random, it could be evasion. If it is evasion, Moody can cause a lot of trouble, becoming a truly unrivalled stalling ability. It is present on 5 puppets. Especially Suwako, Kokoro, and Komachi seem dangerous users.

Speed Suwako
Power Komachi
Defense Kokoro
Defense Kotohime
Assist Kosuzu

Up Tempo

The TPDP equivalent of Speed Boost, this ability instantly landed Blaziken into Ubers when added to it. Speed Boost was previously only attainable by the very fragile and otherwise quite useless Ninjask, which ended up being a popular lead anyway because of it. Anything with access to speed boost and especially also Backup Plan is automatically suspect. This ability is present on 6 puppets. Notice how 4 of these are power forms which have high damage output. These are dangerous in particular when they have access to attack boosts and/or backup plan:

Speed Miko
Power Rin
Power Kana
Power Cirno
Power Mystia
Assist Merlin

Boundary Blurrer / Power Mary

Present only on Power Mary, Boundary Blurrer doubles 4 statistics in all weather conditions, giving her a 675 effective BST in weather. If weather happens to be somewhat prevalent, Mary might be 'too good', her power is comparable to that of legends in Pokemon. Her Illusion typing gives her only 2 weaknesses, one of which is her own type.

Assist Satori

She is basically Wobbuffet. Assist Satori vs. Assist Satori will never end, and she can pretty much wall and lock a very high percentage of the puppets, generally getting a 2-1 trade.

Vanishing Act

If Evasion Clause is standardized, Vanishing Act might be criticized as well. Note that it is only present on four puppets, none of which are actually defensive by nature.

Power Remilia
Speed Remilia
Power Wriggle
Assist Wriggle


Divine Protection

Divine Protection is another interesting ability with a lot of potential. Many stat-boosting moves exist that also lower another stat because they would be unfair otherwise. This ability also synergises with Moody.There is only one user.

Speed Sanae


High Stats

While stats are less variable than they are in pokemon, the puppets do vary in stat total from about 450 (barring a few exceptions with abilities to counteract it) to 600.

Shinki

Both Power and Speed Shinki have a BST of 600, which is the third highest in the game. (Two puppets have a BST of 630, but they have a crippling ability that will probably prevent them from ever seeing much play in either case.). Furthermore, All-Weather and Dark Clothing are both interesting abilities.

Fast and powerful

Puppets have a rather unique combination of very high speed and very high attack. Most other puppets with 120+ attack are slow. Depending on the movesets available, they might cause overcentralization. A comparable pokemon would be Garchomp.

Speed Tojiko
Speed Gengetsu
Speed Yorihime"
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 05, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
Update 1.10 is out. (http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.html)

More changes in this one that in the other ones.


I really ought to start this game now that I'm done with ORAS until the next tournament...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 05, 2015, 01:11:40 PM
I've still yet to even update the installed game... Up to 1.05 was grammar errors, wonder if this is a balance patch?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 05, 2015, 01:42:58 PM
Since some skills and abilities are mentioned in the changelog, most likely.

It also looks like they found something else to patch (https://twitter.com/gn_gekidan/status/552097358977433600) right after that, so 1.11 incoming soon.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 05, 2015, 02:05:55 PM
Since some skills and abilities are mentioned in the changelog, most likely.

It also looks like they found something else to patch (https://twitter.com/gn_gekidan/status/552097358977433600) right after that, so 1.11 incoming soon.

It mentions something about communications? Not fully sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 05, 2015, 05:58:24 PM
HA! I win Kanako with what my Speed Tojiko one shots her Power Sanae and gets a status effect off on Speed Suwako before I was forced to switch out to Speed Miko who successfully stalls out her ground attack danmaku, also Kanako's speed Suwako has moody. Then her Power Kanako was a pain in the ass due to her AI's attacks switching to any of my Puppets weakness too bad her luck ran out when she faced my Speed Tojiko who was just spamming the Thunder Sword danmaku attack also healing items are on the credit list too.  :V

Anyone know where I can find a Yukari puppet, also can someone please tell [Y]oukai[J]esus to update the front page with the new information from the pages about some of the locations and Touhous that can be found please if you can?

Very uncommon moment with Cave of Kappa Valley is a Seiga
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 05, 2015, 07:19:12 PM
Anyone know where I can find a Yukari puppet, also can someone please tell [Y]oukai[J]esus to update the front page with the new information from the pages about some of the locations and Touhous that can be found please if you can?
Yukari is rare in Muenzuka 2nd part.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 05, 2015, 08:32:54 PM
Yukari is rare in Muenzuka 2nd part.
Roger, I'll go back there when I'm done looking for a Marisa.

Whew exploring the second Forest of Magic is a chore, I wish they had a map feature.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: pasu on January 05, 2015, 09:58:06 PM
Yukari is rare in Muenzuka 2nd part.

Muenzuka first part is actually the Road of Reconsidering, but I dunno if that's an easier way to differentiate the two...

Fighting Kanako is actually optional, but you do get a held item that increases exp gained by 1.5x (i think, according to my friends anyway)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 05, 2015, 10:10:12 PM
Muenzuka first part is actually the Road of Reconsidering, but I dunno if that's an easier way to differentiate the two...

Fighting Kanako is actually optional, but you do get a held item that increases exp gained by 1.5x (i think, according to my friends anyway)
Really? I thought it was obligatory due to the song.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 05, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
Bah Yukari hunting is a chore.... OOOOOOOOOOR NEVERMIND, now to go find out where the heck to go next.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 05, 2015, 10:34:42 PM
Colticide, could you please make a Yukari? I figured a Yukari animated gif would fit a name like UnidentifiedPhantasm :)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 05, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Bah Yukari hunting is a chore.... OOOOOOOOOOR NEVERMIND, now to go find out where the heck to go next.
There are some rocks in the route Hakurei Shrine - Human Village.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 05, 2015, 11:16:05 PM
There are some rocks in the route Hakurei Shrine - Human Village.
I've been there already.... OH I didn't check the other rocks.

Also I gotta say CUTENESS DIABETES:
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/ZoraSmile/8de13e937727e80009049b0835074746_zpsbb1affb1.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on January 06, 2015, 12:51:17 AM
I hate you aaalllllll..... Stop making me want to play ittttttt!!!!  :V
And that trainer card is so well done too.....

*Resolve: 65% remaining*
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 06, 2015, 02:56:21 AM
I hate you aaalllllll..... Stop making me want to play ittttttt!!!!  :V
And that trainer card is so well done too.....

*Resolve: 65% remaining*
Joooooooooooooin the darksiiiiiiiiiiiide.  

Also woo in the Palace of Spirits.

Edit: KOISHI GET OUT OF MY DREEEEEEEEEEEEAMS!!!!!

Edit 2: You hold Reimu hostage Medicine... I KICK YOUR ASS HARDCORE WITH YOUR PUPPETS WEAKNESS IN EVERY DIRECTION!!!! How about that? Huh I can't ok?~ *several hours of blood curdling screams later* How you like that I have homies that can make your little friends look like chumps now GET THE PARK OUT OF MY TOWN!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 06, 2015, 03:40:48 AM
I hate you aaalllllll..... Stop making me want to play ittttttt!!!!  :V
And that trainer card is so well done too.....

*Resolve: 65% remaining*

You know I was gonna say the same, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling the salt.

BTW I've been ruining my brain trying to think of an easy way to display puppet locations in a easy to use and visually appealing manner.

This is a test idea I have, I'd like to add a black border around it so the attention gets focused on what's there. This is just area 1 but I plan to have the rest in a column row format. Also to be added any that can be caught in say the same area but in the water I want to differentiate.

(http://puu.sh/e8kMJ/aaa860e725.png)

Any thoughts, suggestions, anything will help.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 06, 2015, 04:40:10 AM
You know I was gonna say the same, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling the salt.

BTW I've been ruining my brain trying to think of an easy way to display puppet locations in a easy to use and visually appealing manner.

This is a test idea I have, I'd like to add a black border around it so the attention gets focused on what's there. This is just area 1 but I plan to have the rest in a column row format. Also to be added any that can be caught in say the same area but in the water I want to differentiate.

(http://puu.sh/e8kMJ/aaa860e725.png)

Any thoughts, suggestions, anything will help.

Oh wow!! You should really keep doing it like this!!

Anyways, seems I'm reaching the end of the game. I'll pick Sariel or Shinki (help me decide plz!!) as starter and begin again. Now knowing that Mai can be gotten early in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 06, 2015, 04:47:16 AM
Oh wow!! You should really keep doing it like this!!

Anyways, seems I'm reaching the end of the game. I'll pick Sariel or Shinki (help me decide plz!!) as starter and begin again. Now knowing that Mai can be gotten early in the game.

There is an end game, things that happen after Makai! What they are... well I've yet to find out, all I know is I was told there is things after the "champion" fight.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 06, 2015, 04:59:47 AM
You know I was gonna say the same, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling the salt.

BTW I've been ruining my brain trying to think of an easy way to display puppet locations in a easy to use and visually appealing manner.

This is a test idea I have, I'd like to add a black border around it so the attention gets focused on what's there. This is just area 1 but I plan to have the rest in a column row format. Also to be added any that can be caught in say the same area but in the water I want to differentiate.

(http://puu.sh/e8kMJ/aaa860e725.png)

Any thoughts, suggestions, anything will help.
This is the best format yet.~ 

Ack now where to go... I've beaten Medicine.

Edit: Found it on my own nevermind.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 06, 2015, 05:06:43 AM
This is the best format yet.~

I'll post version two when I can come up with more then one improvements. Now all we need is the OP to be updated.

Can Puppets be fought in the water? Are there fishing rods? Are there more ways to catch puppets? Are these to many questions?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 06, 2015, 05:22:55 AM
I'll post version two when I can come up with more then one improvements. Now all we need is the OP to be updated.

Can Puppets be fought in the water? Are there fishing rods? Are there more ways to catch puppets? Are these to many questions?
No. No. No. No.
XD.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 06, 2015, 06:59:07 AM
OK version 2 is done, this is kinda what I was thinking on going with. TONS of borrowed stuff but a lot of editing surprisingly.

(http://puu.sh/e8FSR/088d48ab97.png)

EDIT: would help if I actually post the image.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 06, 2015, 07:41:48 AM
Looks good, but how will you handle map names with multiple sets of encounters like route 5?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 06, 2015, 07:48:26 AM
Looks good, but how will you handle map names with multiple sets of encounters like route 5?

(North Route)/(South Route)/Area 1/Area 2
etc?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 06, 2015, 07:51:37 AM
Looks good, but how will you handle map names with multiple sets of encounters like route 5?

It will be labeled in the route name. I'm just going off what's in the OP. It's tough doing this when I only have the demo, but hopefully I can get some help with organizing all the info. From what I saw some areas are like 1st and 2nd halves.

(North Route)/(South Route)/Area 1/Area 2
etc?

Pretty much lol.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on January 06, 2015, 09:27:00 AM
OK version 2 is done, this is kinda what I was thinking on going with. TONS of borrowed stuff but a lot of editing surprisingly.

(http://puu.sh/e8FSR/088d48ab97.png)

EDIT: would help if I actually post the image.

Cool looking and easy to understand, good job!  ;)

I think i should stop looking at these sprites, i keep noticing weird things.... why Sukuna looks so much like an HOBO?  :V :]
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 06, 2015, 09:37:34 AM
How playable is this if you don't know a lick of Japanese?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 06, 2015, 10:14:23 AM
How playable is this if you don't know a lick of Japanese?
If you have the patience to make up for it with guessing/checking and remember what each move/item does. Fairly playable.
Having played Pokemon before makes it much easier.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 06, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
Next question:

How do you even download this? I can't understand the site it's in Japanese. Clicking what I assume to be the download link takes me to Melonbooks and then I get lost.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 06, 2015, 10:31:28 AM
By the way, I won't bother with it for my first playthrough, but might as well ask it now, is the IV/EV system identical to Pok?mon? Like, down to IV inheritance and all that stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 06, 2015, 11:10:20 AM
By the way, I won't bother with it for my first playthrough, but might as well ask it now, is the IV/EV system identical to Pok?mon? Like, down to IV inheritance and all that stuff.
IVs at randomized and indicated by a rank from E- to S. S being the highest.
You get PP after each battle, these are basically your EVs but you get to pick which stat to distribute them later. You use them to learn skills and change your active ability as well.
I'm not sure what you mean by inheritance, but take a look at the reincarnation system. Its basically a simplified breeding system without the egg running from what I've seen so far.
Next question:

How do you even download this? I can't understand the site it's in Japanese. Clicking what I assume to be the download link takes me to Melonbooks and then I get lost.
You buy it from melonbooks for 2700 yen. About 22-23 USD.
I believe there was some problems with it so I'm not sure if they put it back up for purchase yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 06, 2015, 11:17:18 AM
You buy it from melonbooks for 2700 yen. About 22-23 USD.
I believe there was some problems with it so I'm not sure if they put it back up for purchase yet.
I know that; what I don't know is how to sign up and actually buy it. Everything is in Japanese so I can't figure it out.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 06, 2015, 12:06:48 PM
I know that; what I don't know is how to sign up and actually buy it. Everything is in Japanese so I can't figure it out.
I have only used the log in with pixiv account option so I can't help you there, sorry...
edit: the melonbook version isn't ready yet apparently. Please wait warmly.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 06, 2015, 12:16:17 PM
I know that; what I don't know is how to sign up and actually buy it. Everything is in Japanese so I can't figure it out.

This was a huge help for me when getting Labyrinth of Touhou.
http://imgur.com/a/qA3Dc (http://imgur.com/a/qA3Dc)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 06, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
This was a huge help for me when getting Labyrinth of Touhou.
http://imgur.com/a/qA3Dc (http://imgur.com/a/qA3Dc)
I thought about that, but I was afraid guest checkout wouldn't let you download the game if you you lose the link.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 06, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
You get PP after each battle, these are basically your EVs but you get to pick which stat to distribute them later. You use them to learn skills and change your active ability as well.
Woah woah woah, that is seriously great.

I'm not sure what you mean by inheritance, but take a look at the reincarnation system. Its basically a simplified breeding system without the egg running from what I've seen so far.
In Pok?mon, children inherit some IVs from their parents, so eventually there is a way to get a Pok?mon with near-perfect and perfect IVs.

That will only be important for versus mode, but I like to know beforehand.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 06, 2015, 12:38:04 PM
Woah woah woah, that is seriously great.
In Pok?mon, children inherit some IVs from their parents, so eventually there is a way to get a Pok?mon with near-perfect and perfect IVs.

That will only be important for versus mode, but I like to know beforehand.

Yeah there is inheritance, you use two puppets on the one you want to reincarnate and thier stats are used, you also use a item to make transferring easier. Rainbow something I think.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 06, 2015, 01:01:24 PM
Yeah there is inheritance, you use two puppets on the one you want to reincarnate and thier stats are used, you also use a item to make transferring easier. Rainbow something I think.
So it's the same thing. I guess I'll just play around with it when I get to it, thanks.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 06, 2015, 09:03:34 PM
Captured Sariel. Putting her in my team. Going to grind now.
Title: Re: Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Ryason55 on January 06, 2015, 10:33:18 PM
Looks like the artist for the game is recruiting people to make costumes for the puppets (or something):
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48031566
Title: Re: Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 06, 2015, 10:37:38 PM
Looks like the artist for the game is recruiting people to make costumes for the puppets (or something):
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48031566
OMFG THE HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE I would so wait for a such a patch for costumes to happen.

I'm curious to see everybody's trainer cards, just to see what the puppet art for each starter looks like.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Mew seeker on January 06, 2015, 10:57:50 PM
I did a little search and found a Japanese let's play of the game at Niconico Douga :
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25231047

I don't know if there is an English wiki for the game but meanwhile I found a Japanese one :
http://wikiwiki.jp/tensi-gj-ms/

If you, for some reason, like to get perfect Individual Values for a doll,
you should save up on 魔力の欠片 (things that sell for 200 yen, its description does hint that it might have other uses).

I'll post more when I get more of these.

I believe  魔力の欠片 could be translated as "magical (magic power) fragments".
Usually those are instead dropped by the Heartless but it seems  that in Gensokyo it's the dolls that drops them?  :V
Title: Re: Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 06, 2015, 11:15:14 PM
OMFG THE HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE I would so wait for a such a patch for costumes to happen.

I'm curious to see everybody's trainer cards, just to see what the puppet art for each starter looks like.

You can always have these:
https://mega.co.nz/#!usFnAD5b!ch6v5cMiK-CU1pDt_WeqIiX4vw7-5Tt5Vd-uBLF0opM (https://mega.co.nz/#!usFnAD5b!ch6v5cMiK-CU1pDt_WeqIiX4vw7-5Tt5Vd-uBLF0opM)

EDIT: Luize is such a good girl.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 07, 2015, 01:24:50 AM
Thank you and um... ack where to go next now I keep asking this from time to time, I've beaten Medicine for the second time.

Edit: Nevermind found it.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 07, 2015, 02:05:12 AM
Now that I've reached Makai. I should probably say that good options for starter should be:
Shinki, Yumeko, Yuka and Reimu (can be get very late in the game).
Mima, Byakuren (Way too rare).
Sariel (Can help you beat the first part of the game easily).
Elis (Hard to capture with overleveled puppets).

Yakumo Household (post-game)

Common: Chen and Ran.
Less common: Yukari.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 07, 2015, 03:49:11 AM
I'm so happy beaten Yuuka and caught a Raiko on the way now to sweep off a little of my to do list before advancing the plot.

Edit: Byakuren was a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIT salty after I beated up her followers Puppets then when she threw out her Speed Byakuren (Real one) I threw out my Speed Miko and yelled "BATTLE OF THE REGLIONS" and won best times ever. 

Edit 2: So was Marisa and Reimu those two were meeeeeeeeeean thankfully I had some battle revives on me.
Title: Re: Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 07, 2015, 08:04:23 AM
Looks like the artist for the game is recruiting people to make costumes for the puppets (or something):
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48031566

I wonder what this could mean? New forms? Is it just aesthetic? I need to know! Also damnit! I've been working on getting all the sprites animated and someone made a code to do it all in way less time, I'm happy but damn does it make me feel like... something. I need to work on something, maybe come up with a signature style trainer card.
Title: Re: Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Mew seeker on January 08, 2015, 12:05:25 AM
I wonder what this could mean? New forms? Is it just aesthetic? I need to know! Also damnit! I've been working on getting all the sprites animated and someone made a code to do it all in way less time, I'm happy but damn does it make me feel like... something. I need to work on something, maybe come up with a signature style trainer card.

Make a Kamina version of Iku?  :3
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 08, 2015, 05:37:09 AM
So after that post with the costume thing I did some searching and found something interesting. Touhou PDP is the second version of an already released game by the same group. When going through the file I ran into this image that looked really familiar, (http://puu.sh/ee2dT/5215b00fd0.png)

So I found this as a result. http://www.fo-lens.net/shisou2/ (http://www.fo-lens.net/shisou2/)
And sure enough when you go into the characters page you see the exact same image.

Also when you go into the system page you get the final nail in the coffin on this!
For those that can't see the site or something:
(http://www.fo-lens.net/shisou2/systemgazou.gif)

As you can see it's Touhoumon... or PDP way before. The battle system is the same and with the Aya changing clothes is similar to how the new function will work. I can't get a good translation of what the game is called but it's something close to Touhou 幻想紫創伝 (purple creation or something).

I for one am glad they made PDPm it looks so much better, but then again that looks like their first game too.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 08, 2015, 05:50:13 AM
That was an April Fool's joke. It says so on the page you linked. My impression is that they've been wanting to make this game for a while though, so they probably turned their early mock-ups into a joke.

Anyway, I've beaten the game twice now. By which I mean I renamed my save folder and started a brand new game from scratch. I noticed that Yorihime and Toyohime both have an incredibly limited movepool, so I'm wondering if that's something the devs used to balance characters. Momiji is awesome since she can guaranteed kill any character stronger and faster than her, but I don't know how that would play out against a human opponent who can more intelligently switch dolls.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 08, 2015, 06:26:14 AM
That was an April Fool's joke. It says so on the page you linked. My impression is that they've been wanting to make this game for a while though, so they probably turned their early mock-ups into a joke.

Anyway, I've beaten the game twice now. By which I mean I renamed my save folder and started a brand new game from scratch. I noticed that Yorihime and Toyohime both have an incredibly limited movepool, so I'm wondering if that's something the devs used to balance characters. Momiji is awesome since she can guaranteed kill any character stronger and faster than her, but I don't know how that would play out against a human opponent who can more intelligently switch dolls.

oh... well damn. I thought I was onto something since that Yukari picture is in both.

Twice already!? What kind of post game content is there?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raitaki on January 08, 2015, 07:10:59 AM
>Find a Rumia with S in Fo.Atk and decent speed
>Team severely lacking in Fo.Atkers, keep her
>Spend PP on raising Fo.Atk and Speed
>Lv30, found out her Power style focuses on Sp.Atk instead, and if I go Defense Rumia those 64 points in Spd are basically wasted

WHY
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 08, 2015, 07:51:40 AM
Twice already!? What kind of post game content is there?

Well, I can't tell if I'm missing anything, but there's a sidequest for Kasen where you have to gather things from around Gensokyo, a bonus dungeon with a bonus boss at the bottom, and you can fight most of the important characters again with new level 80 teams.

>Find a Rumia with S in Fo.Atk and decent speed
>Team severely lacking in Fo.Atkers, keep her
>Spend PP on raising Fo.Atk and Speed
>Lv30, found out her Power style focuses on Sp.Atk instead, and if I go Defense Rumia those 64 points in Spd are basically wasted

WHY

Which is why the second time around I never allocated any points into anything until the final boss, when I was sure what I was using them for. It's pretty much the most permanent decision you can make in this game, since even rebirth keeps it. Although I guess at that point catching a new one isn't much different.

Although the system isn't perfect. I recently rebirthed a Nitori to S ranks in almost every stat only to find out that I gave her the wrong color seal since she flipped to Spread Attack at level 30.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 08, 2015, 10:38:08 PM
So the puppet dex has this cost on the entries, what are those about?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 09, 2015, 12:01:16 AM
So the puppet dex has this cost on the entries, what are those about?

It interacts with a few skills (there's a nature skill where the power is based on the opponent's cost), but mostly it affects experience growth. High cost puppets take way more experience to grow, and give more experience when defeated as enemies. It's pretty noticeable when you have both an 80 cost and a 120 cost puppet in the same team: even if the 120 participates in every battle and the 80 in none, the 80 will still level up faster.

Also I think higher cost puppets have higher total stats. If you look at who has what cost, it's pretty obviously a "power level" with stage 1 bosses at 80 and EX bosses at 120.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 09, 2015, 04:58:24 AM
Anyone used Melonbooks DL before? I trying to buy the game but since I had help the last time I used it I'm at a screen where I've no idea what to put in. Can't find a reliable tutorial for this section of Melonbooks.

EDIT: got it working! Now the the hardest decision on my life. Which starter to pick...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 09, 2015, 07:33:46 AM
Where can you catch Raiko? She's the last party member I want to have.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 09, 2015, 07:35:55 AM
Just to fill it in, Raiko is a rare encounter on the route after Garden of the Sun, where Benben, Yatsuhashi and Seija are also found.  Toyohime and Yorihime are very rare in the area south of the Misty Lake where Orange and Rinnosuke can be encountered.  (Yes, that's a pretty random spot for them.  They might be somewhere around Eientei as well, I dunno.)

Here ya go.

EDIT: Well started with Alice, very much a hard hitting tank puppet. Love her ability which has a 30% to seal attack on her! Also... Sukuna what your problem?! I know your here so quit hiding! As of note for future I seen that Koakuma is like abra (kinda) when she attacks the battle ends, any idea how to catch her? If you need a turn to set up a seal and another to KO then she would have the advantage right?

EDIT: and not even two battles in Sukuna shows up. Guess bad mouthing rares really works on here.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Espadas on January 09, 2015, 10:39:26 AM

EDIT: and not even two battles in Sukuna shows up. Guess bad mouthing rares really works on here.  :V

You wouldn't believe how well that works in Puzzle and Dragons  :]
A few weeks ago i complained about my rolls in the REM machine. A few days later during the new godfest i rolled so many awesome rares that i think it was the game's equivalent of "SHUT THE F**K UP!"
If i remember correct i got something like 7 rares (and very powerful ones at that) out of 9 rolls..... :V

Whiner for Life?  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: metabound on January 09, 2015, 11:57:57 AM
oh god the cave behind hakurei shrine is so big....and the random encounter level is too high....it looks like i will hit lvl 100 soon
and in the reincarnation system, can we breed moves too like breeding in pokemon?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 09, 2015, 01:07:05 PM
oh god the cave behind hakurei shrine is so big....and the random encounter level is too high....it looks like i will hit lvl 100 soon
and in the reincarnation system, can we breed moves too like breeding in pokemon?

No, just stats. The movepools are kept very limited compared to Pokemon.

I started my third game recently and it seems the 1.10 patch buffed the levels of a lot of bosses. Makes the game more interesting.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: metabound on January 09, 2015, 01:56:15 PM
i see, how do i use it btw, there is 5 slot, first slot is the target, what is the next 4?
and yea the movepool is very limited, although the ability seems a bit op compared to pokemon
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 09, 2015, 02:31:46 PM
Patchouli sorta explains it to you. In Japanese.

The first slot obviously is for your doll which you want to reincarnate.
It resets basically everything. I think the only thing that doesn't get reset is the 'Encountered in place, at time'

The second and third slots(Inheritance)  are for when you want to pass on IVs from other dolls.
If you set one doll, two of the reincarnated doll's IVs will be based on this doll.
If you set two dolls, three of the reincarnated doll's IVs will be based on either one of the dolls, separately.

The fourth slot is for when you want to give a particular 印 to the reincarnated doll, which boosts a particular stat by 10%.
(印 has a lot of meanings, and I don't feel like finding a good translation for this, for now. 'Mark' might probably work, if it itself didn't have a lot of meanings)

The fifth slot is for when you want to either
fix all IVs from the reincarnating doll, or
pass on a particular IV from the reincarnating doll, or
when you want to inherit more IVs from the inheriting doll(s).

For the fifth slot, except for the first option, you'll have to get it from somewhere else.


Thankfully, in this game Skill Cards (TMs in pokemon) are not one-time usables, so try using it.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 09, 2015, 04:06:13 PM
Here ya go.
Thank you!
Hey, I just came to Hina's house, what does she do? She just swallowed my Nazrin... She had 51 lvl... Can I get her back?

EDIT: Nevermind, I restarted the game without saving. But I still wonder, what Hina does?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 09, 2015, 04:08:07 PM
Thank you!
Hey, I just came to Hina's house, what does she do? She just swallowed my Nazrin... She had 51 lvl... Can I get her back?

Oh no you should have asked first, Hina is your way of releasing puppets.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 09, 2015, 04:52:38 PM
Oh no you should have asked first, Hina is your way of releasing puppets.
What?! Glad I didn't save... Nazrin is my right hand when I can not use Mai.
Ah, I just cought Yuki. She's low level, but I'd like to keep her. Though there will be no place for Raiko... 
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 09, 2015, 04:57:16 PM
What?! Glad I didn't save... Nazrin is my right hand when I can not use Mai.
Ah, I just cought Yuki. She's low level, but I'd like to keep her. Though there will be no place for Raiko...

I know what you mean, I want to use Raiko but I've already got too many favorites in my party right now.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 09, 2015, 05:58:50 PM
I wanna use Reimu, Yuyuko, Yukari, and Reisen, but I have too many advanced levels in my party and half of them consist of my favorites. Well minus Rika since she's my go to if  any opponent tries to expose a weakness of mine.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 09, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
Argh, I just caught Tenshi. I want her in team so badly, but I already have Nazrin... Curse you, game! This is just unfair.

EDIT: Gee, after deafiting Sanae I talked to Kanako. What an awful mistake it was... My team just wasn't heal properly... My poor team...
Question: Do you loose anything when your party is deafeted?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 09, 2015, 06:58:26 PM
I'm gonna need a thing that makes the choices for me till I get to end game (then it's competitive time!), but dear god I feel bad for Wriggle, 4x weak to steel! Not only does Alice know a steel move but so does Sukuna and Keine... in fact more then half of team (9) are weak to steel.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 09, 2015, 07:15:48 PM
hmmm,
I have a question...
How I can play in a network battle? I think, its in the center where you always see your "PC" dolls and you healed your dolls.
But, I even finish the game and still nothing.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 09, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
hmmm,
I have a question...
How I can play in a network battle? I think, its in the center where you always see your "PC" dolls and you healed your dolls.
But, I even finish the game and still nothing.

You can only do network battles after you beat the game. You have to go to Yukari's house (it just mysteriously appears as another page on your map), beat both Yukari and Ran, and then Yukari will open up "the gate to other worlds".
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 09, 2015, 10:10:20 PM
oh god the cave behind hakurei shrine is so big....and the random encounter level is too high....it looks like i will hit lvl 100 soon
and in the reincarnation system, can we breed moves too like breeding in pokemon?
You can get some item that prevents encounters in the underground village.

I'm currently trying to get my missing puppets. Shinki, Yumeko, SinGyoku (where the hell are these guys??), Kana (vague), Lyrica (vague), Yukari, Keine (vague), Toyohime, Shizuha (vague), Kyouko (vague), Suwako and Raiko
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 09, 2015, 10:18:50 PM
You can get some item that prevents encounters in the underground village.

I'm currently trying to get my missing puppets. Shinki, Yumeko, SinGyoku (where the hell are these guys??), Kana (vague), Lyrica (vague), Yukari, Keine (vague), Toyohime, Shizuha (vague), Kyouko (vague), Suwako and Raiko

Isn't SinGyoku behind the hakurei shrine? In the forest?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 09, 2015, 10:20:36 PM
Isn't SinGyoku behind the hakurei shrine? In the forest?
Really? RNG only decides to show me Sunny, Luna and Star...
Suddenly Keine is rare...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 09, 2015, 10:43:54 PM
I know there is something else in the woods.

Wait you dont have keine yet? not even from the village?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 09, 2015, 10:58:10 PM
Wait you dont have keine yet? not even from the village?
She didn't appear in 100+ encounters...
I have her now.
Now for Toyohime.
I almost got them all,just need Yumeko and Shinki.
Can somebody change Shinki to Extremely Super Rare??
Found Shinki!!
Low HP and still doesn't want to be captured.
Got Shinki after using 20+ seals  :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 10, 2015, 02:46:36 AM
Finally caught a somewhat decent flandre after 127 encounters.
To be honest, I found my first around the 66th encounter and a second around the 120th encounter. Maybe I need a bigger sample size?
Both were basically straight Es and Ds. This one only has an E- in focus attack and I don't think she even uses that.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 10, 2015, 07:59:34 PM
I just caught Koishi, she's awesome! Three A's, two B's and one C.  I made her Assist, so she's illusion/void now. But I already had Yukari... Can someone help me? (Yukari is E, two B's, two D's and S)

Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 11, 2015, 08:48:33 AM
Anyone know what the 'Mark' skills do? It says you can only know one but they doesn't explain what they actually DO.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 11, 2015, 09:02:41 AM
Anyone know what the 'Mark' skills do? It says you can only know one but they doesn't explain what they actually DO.

Are you talking about one of these? 一符・炎

1st Sign「Fire」    一符・炎    Fire    Spread    60    100    10    0    Normal attack. The user can only learn one Sign skill.

It seems that there is one for every type and this acts like the Hidden Power in Pokemon, so it's for type coverage.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 11, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
How to get past giant Suika?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 11, 2015, 11:08:46 AM
How to get past giant Suika?

What part are you at and what did you just get done with?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 11, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
Are you talking about one of these? 一符・炎

1st Sign「Fire」    一符・炎    Fire    Spread    60    100    10    0    Normal attack. The user can only learn one Sign skill.

It seems that there is one for every type and this acts like the Hidden Power in Pokemon, so it's for type coverage.

No; I don't think so. It's this:

(http://i.imgur.com/kwfh0Bi.png)

It says normal attack but it dosen't deal damage [It's black]. It also only lets me use Ambient after using it.

Unless while attempting to patch things I broke something.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 11, 2015, 11:45:47 AM
No; I don't think so. It's this:

(http://i.imgur.com/kwfh0Bi.png)

It says normal attack but it dosen't deal damage [It's black]. It also only lets me use Ambient after using it.

Unless while attempting to patch things I broke something.

Wow that is broken! Using partial patches can end up causing more problems. If you had it in the original Japanese I'd be able to better tell you, but the best I can say is it has the description of the 14 "sign" attacks, there is none of void that has that.

Like I said something is really broken, you can't even see the levels as well. I've got the Ability and skills list up when I play so I can always share what moves and what not you have for you.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 11, 2015, 12:18:23 PM
Wow that is broken! Using partial patches can end up causing more problems. If you had it in the original Japanese I'd be able to better tell you, but the best I can say is it has the description of the 14 "sign" attacks, there is none of void that has that.

Like I said something is really broken, you can't even see the levels as well. I've got the Ability and skills list up when I play so I can always share what moves and what not you have for you.

Yeah, they're just weak attacks for type coverage. Anyone can learn any of them, but only one at a time (it says "already learned" if you try to learn another). In one of the recent patches they fixed a bug with one of them, so that's probably what's messing up your patch.

It takes pretty exact circumstances to make them useful though. They're so weak that a good STAB attack will almost always be more powerful even if you're not hitting a weakness, as well as 120 Power TMs (Cold Rain, Inferno, etc). I think to use them properly you need a very specific plan, like "use this on Defense Toyohime because she's double-weak against it" or "I'm strong against all this person's attacks, but they're also strong against all my STAB attacks". I think it also works with the Strategist ability.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 11, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
I managed to fix the broken.

It's not even a sign attack. It's supposed to be +Special Attack :P. I don't even know how I managed THAT. At one point I managed to make everything just act like the basic void attacks everything starts with one of.

Also I managed to break my save while fixing it at some point. Oh well. I'll just explore all that the game has to offer, the EXP mechanics basically mean I can train/catch everything without too much trouble; while still going through the actual storyline with a 'faves' team. Because this is the sort of thing I need to use EVERYTHING. I want to know~

I'll probobly just RNG a starter. 1-130. As long as it's not a Chen or something in the areas I got up to [I ASSUME whereever Kyouko is is 'earlygame']; I'll use that.

Edit: And the Random Number God gives me 23... which *looks at sprite file*. Well. That couldn't have RNG'ed much better to my tastes [Elly]
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 11, 2015, 12:33:50 PM
First page isn't updated but it has a good list of what people have been seeing. I'm currently making a easy to use location guide as I play so that way we don't miss any. Like how the route to the forest of magic has Lily in it but the locations doesn't say it.
You could always go for a challenge cost 80 puppet or a OP cost 120 puppet.

I think it also works with the Strategist ability.

Does it ever! Going from 60 to 90 base power with 100 accuracy is nice! But like you said it has limited uses, if a "meta" game does show up with this then we may see sign attacks on movepool limited puppets or something similar to why pokemon uses them. (at least they made it easy to use and not a headache trying to get the right type like HP, looking at you HP Grass)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 11, 2015, 02:08:03 PM
First page isn't updated but it has a good list of what people have been seeing. I'm currently making a easy to use location guide as I play so that way we don't miss any. Like how the route to the forest of magic has Lily in it but the locations doesn't say it.
You could always go for a challenge cost 80 puppet or a OP cost 120 puppet.

Does it ever! Going from 60 to 90 base power with 100 accuracy is nice! But like you said it has limited uses, if a "meta" game does show up with this then we may see sign attacks on movepool limited puppets or something similar to why pokemon uses them. (at least they made it easy to use and not a headache trying to get the right type like HP, looking at you HP Grass)

But the 'challenge' of a Cost 80 is outweighed by their fast leveling, while a Cost 120 levels much, much slower.

Of course, there are some Cost 80's with awful stats [Defense Akyuu has the same BST as Base Yorihime], but those tend to have abilities which can make up for it [EG: Akyuu has Curiosity; Kozuzu has Moody]
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 11, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
What part are you at and what did you just get done with?
Well, I just deafeted Satori, Okuu and Medicine. Do I need to do something else?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 11, 2015, 04:45:19 PM
My 'Give everyone a chance' run has brought up some surprises.

- Tokiko is surprisingly useful. She's not strong or anything; but when the game is basically in Set mode all the time and you have what amounts to U-Turn + Regenerator, and you're pretty durable, you're a great scout, or someone who can finish off an enemy and let you switch in to their next one with a good matchup on the next one.  I kinda hope she gets some decent status moves or something. Also she appears to learn Steel-type Stealth Rock.
- If I didn't already have another Dark type [Rumia]; I'd probobly be using Mystia. Her movepool seems pretty good, and Good Manager seems alright.
- I don't get how Benben/Yatsuashi get so many nature moves
- Nue seems cool. Too bad her entore route is littered with Sound types who hit her SE. <_<
- Elly wrecks everything

Also, I thought of a dumb fun run someone could do for a challenge:

Starter Cirno; then use ALL THE FAIRIES. Cirno/Dai/Sunny/Luna/Star/Lilly. That happens to be a full set you can get earlygame.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
Well, I just deafeted Satori, Okuu and Medicine. Do I need to do something else?

Sorry for the vaugeness, I'm not that far so I'm using info gathered from other. It seems once Medicine is defeated a path that you didn't have access to before opens up, after that the person says they when to the area you find your starter and you fight Reimu and her level 60-68ish puppets. That's all I know for now.

Also, I thought of a dumb fun run someone could do for a challenge:

Starter Cirno; then use ALL THE FAIRIES. Cirno/Dai/Sunny/Luna/Star/Lilly. That happens to be a full set you can get earlygame.

Cirno is a great starter! If you get Power Cirno with Up Tempo she's great! For a cost 80 puppet her Fatk and her Spd are really close to some of the cost 110 or 120 puppets. If there are moves that never miss then you can even go for a Dardevil Cirno with a %50 atk boost. (Bad for the 20% accuracy)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 11, 2015, 05:41:29 PM
After defeating Medicine, you should go south, then west and go through the caves.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 11, 2015, 07:47:23 PM
Well, I've managed to accumulate 4 of the dream team. [Elly, Rumia, Rika and my newly acquired Seija]

Ironically I also found like a billion Ellies. Oh well.

2humon Puppets Location things thanks to the people in the thread of course

Route to Human Village
Common: Daiyousei, Chen, Nazrin
Very Rare: Sukana

Human Village
Common: Keine, Sekibanki, Kosuzu
Rare(?): Kokoro, Akyuu

Route to Forest of Magic:
Common: Rumia, Wriggle and Mystia.
Rare: Tokiko, Rika.

Forest of Magic:
Common: Sunny, Luna and Star.
Very Rare: Alice.

Route to Myouren Temple:
Common: Kotohime, Kyouko, Benben and Yatsuhashi.
Rare: Nue.

Myouren Temple:
Common: Ichirin, Nazrin and Kyouko
Rare: Murasa and Shou

Myouren Temple Cemetery:
Common: Kogasa, Yoshika and Youmu.
Rare: Yuyuko.
Super Rare: Mima

Cave to Divine Mausoleum:
Common: Futo, Tojiko and Seiga.
Rare: Miko.

Route to Bamboo Forest:
Common: Kurumi, Mystia and Mamizou.
Uncommon: Seija
Rare: Elly.

Wait, have I missed a lot of areas? I've gone Route 3; which had Benben/Nue ect; and then I entered Route 4; which has Mamizou and co. I've not found Myouren Temple. And I am tempted to have a Kogasa in one of my two slots left to fill.

Also on 'Route to Bamboo Forest' I've totally had my encounters more like this:
Common: Mamizou; Elly; Kurumi
Uncommon: Mystia
Extremely Rare: Seija [Like; it took over 100 encounters to find one]

Seriously. I was finding Ellies like candy. They are not rare.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 11, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
Ok, it seems there's a completely new route I didn't took because I'm an idiot. Sigh...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 11, 2015, 08:33:56 PM
Ok, it seems there's a completely new route I didn't took because I'm an idiot. Sigh...

You not an idiot, it happens. Like when I was in the forest of magic I skipped the paths that led to a different screen only to back track through and find they were just items...


Rarity is not really important until we get encounter rates, I've run into more Alice then I have Star Sapphire, its all percentage so you could get really lucky with just a 20% rate.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 11, 2015, 11:20:34 PM
The game is pretty mazelike overall. Myouren Temple is an entirely optional area that you can access before you get to Eientei, but don't need to go to until the very end of the game. The Forest of Magic is ridiculously huge, Youkai Mountain is filled with annoying caves, and the final dungeon is confusing to me even after I already know where to go.

Rarities to me feel like they're just Common and Rare, but Rare isn't so rare that you won't find a couple of them just by walking around normally. You probably won't get every puppet the first time through, but you should have a good idea where most of them are anyway.

Cost doesn't seem to matter that much, honestly. Kyouko and Keine were my MVPs my first game, and Murasa seemed about equal to Yorihime in usefulness my second. Kasen and Eirin both seem kind of bad to me too. More than stat totals, having good stats in the right places, as well as good types and abilities, seem more important.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 12, 2015, 12:08:56 AM
Cost doesn't seem to matter that much, honestly. Kyouko and Keine were my MVPs my first game, and Murasa seemed about equal to Yorihime in usefulness my second. Kasen and Eirin both seem kind of bad to me too. More than stat totals, having good stats in the right places, as well as good types and abilities, seem more important.

Yeah that's true, dispute crino being c:80 her power style gives her Fatk and Satk and SPD like a c:100/110
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Metaflare on January 12, 2015, 01:34:47 AM
every dungeon in this game is just an awful slog to get through

thankfully im (pretty sure, at least) at the end of the main game
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: divinefrog on January 12, 2015, 04:20:13 AM
Ahh, it's so hard to pick a stater >.< I just want to grab ZUN and go "GIVE ME EVERYTHING."

That said, I settled on Tenshi and she's pretty good. I wound up building her tanky and while she has a whole crapton of weaknesses she seems to weather pretty well in general situations.

I've been playing around with an "annoy all the people" team (Seija, Nue and  Tenshi are the core but I'm keeping open to new members) and I've found that Seija is a pretty great. Her ability Unjustness turns debuffs into buffs- including debuffs you get from openers and also from moves that have the "drawback" of decreasing stats. Nue is pretty powerful with an Electric type draining attack that more or less ruins most of Youkai Mountain and she seems to have pretty nice coverage. I've also had fun playing with Keine and her Were-Hakutaku form- but it's kind of hard to use right, especially when most foes clip her to half on the first turn and kill her on the second. That extra speed and power doesn't really seem to offset the fact that she's lost half her health.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 12, 2015, 04:34:56 AM
I've also had fun playing with Keine and her Were-Hakutaku form- but it's kind of hard to use right, especially when most foes clip her to half on the first turn and kill her on the second. That extra speed and power doesn't really seem to offset the fact that she's lost half her health.

As I said earlier, Keine was my MVP and a lot of that was due to Were-Hakutaku. The basic pattern is to take a hit that puts you below half, and then counterattack for massive damage. And if they don't die from the counter, then you go before them next turn and finish them off. However, she's incredibly squishy, so if you don't think you're going to go first and kill them, then you should probably switch her out. I also gave her the item that heals you a bit every turn, which often let her switch back to defensive mode if she was only slightly below half. And my Keine had enough defense to survive pretty much anything if she starts the turn above half.

I don't know what other people do for EVs, but I gave her maxed out F. Attack and split the rest between both defense stats so she could survive anything.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 12, 2015, 05:00:39 AM
For those who might not be in the know but There is a 1.13 update for the game found here: http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.html (http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.html)
Don't worry about not having the other patches, this one contains all of them and will patch them in for you.

In other news the translation patch is almost done, on when it will exactly hit, I have no idea, but it's all coming together nicely and hopefully will be out soon.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 12, 2015, 07:27:25 AM
New patch again? They're patching it like crazy! I hope this patch will finally work. I still play on 1.00. I tried changing language to Japanese, but it didn't help much...

Anyway, I went to Myohiga that apparently was right in front of me after going out of Hell. Chen gave me an item. I'll see what it does later.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 12, 2015, 07:39:14 AM
Well for me since I let the game install where it needed to, I just run the patcher and it works fine. If you installed it somewhere else then your gonna have to get your Focaslens folder in game folder, then running the patcher should work.

So I've been going through my current teams moves and actually using them effectively. Been using the PDP Wiki (http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Main_Page) to make a list of all of their moves up to level 24 before style change so I can plan out where I want to take them. That's when I noticed Akyuu, I'm in love with Akyuu! On normal, curiosity isn't useful at all, but seeing slow tempo made me all giddy! You always go last but you only take 0.9 damage, not only does this help her move Vision (Takes the move the opponent is going to use and multiplies its power by 1.5. If you do not go first.) but if you do need to attack first she has Overlay which is a priority move. (sadly Light so with some puppets it would work on like Absorbent Shou)

Oh and then assist Akyuu is Shedinja incarnate. I love this game!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 12, 2015, 03:30:30 PM
Yay! I'm in Garden of Sun. That means, that I'm going to catch Raiko soon!
Also, my Mai has 92 level. I think I'm prepared to fight Reimu.

EDIT: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I went through everything! Suzuran Hill, Garden of Sun, I catched my Raiko... And then the game crashed at the fight with trainer... Now I need to do it all over again.... sob sob....

EDIT2: Finally, after a lot of time I'm again where the game crashed. Nazrin deafeted Yuuka with like no problem. I hope it won't crash this time...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: shurcle on January 13, 2015, 12:15:39 AM
I'm somewhat confused about the progression about this game.
It seems youkai mountain is the natural progression after getting surf, but I wanted to check tree I could find for hidden loot.
There is an frozen cave in the middle of the misty lake(which is smaller than I expected) and a path down back into the forest of magic. I've managed to more or less explore through the entire area and went into the road of reconsideration(?). The levels suggest I'm suppose to go here first before the youkai mountain, but honestly I don't think I can trust doujin games to put much effort into balancing.

I've read the icy cave is postgame content but I kind of want to check it out sooner rather than later to find loot I may miss.

edit: seems its a dead end with a purple tree. Oh well. Got a yukari with basically full D stats so thats good.(?)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 13, 2015, 02:10:51 AM
Where are Yumemi, Chiyuri, Gengentsu and Mugetsu?
If somebody show me how to get thos dolls and make a trade, I will give a good doll :)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 13, 2015, 03:05:09 AM
I'm somewhat confused about the progression about this game.
It seems youkai mountain is the natural progression after getting surf, but I wanted to check tree I could find for hidden loot.
There is an frozen cave in the middle of the misty lake(which is smaller than I expected) and a path down back into the forest of magic. I've managed to more or less explore through the entire area and went into the road of reconsideration(?). The levels suggest I'm suppose to go here first before the youkai mountain, but honestly I don't think I can trust doujin games to put much effort into balancing.

I've read the icy cave is postgame content but I kind of want to check it out sooner rather than later to find loot I may miss.

edit: seems its a dead end with a purple tree. Oh well. Got a yukari with basically full D stats so thats good.(?)

The ice cave is blocked until after you beat the game. You're just not allowed to go any further (they remove a rock in your way). The rest of the Forest of Magic and Muenzuka are totally optional, but they're at about the right level for you to explore immediately after getting the boat.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 13, 2015, 03:55:39 AM
Anyone know what Terrains do?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 13, 2015, 05:48:14 AM
From the Japanese wiki :
青龍 : Ignores type advantages/disadvantages, except for 'No effect'.
朱雀 : HP healing instead deals damage, except for some skills and abilities.
白虎 : Skills will always hit, but cannot be a critical hit, except for some skills.
玄武 : Turn order based on dolls' speed will be reversed. (Priority and abilities like 'Slow Tempo' still works as normal)

Don't really know if it's correct. Don't even know if 青龍 + Assist Akyuu is something different.

EDIT : It was from the manual from the official site, so I think it will surely be correct.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on January 13, 2015, 06:32:52 AM
That would be hilarious if something like that works. But hey, I think it only lasts 5 turns...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 13, 2015, 07:34:16 AM
From the Japanese wiki :
青龍 : Ignores type advantages/disadvantages, except for 'No effect'.
朱雀 : HP healing instead deals damage, except for some skills and abilities.
白虎 : Skills will always hit, but cannot be a critical hit, except for some skills.
玄武 : Turn order based on dolls' speed will be reversed. (Priority and abilities like 'Slow Tempo' still works as normal)

Don't really know if it's correct. Don't even know if 青龍 + Assist Akyuu is something different.

EDIT : It was from the manual from the official site, so I think it will surely be correct.

Oh thank you very much!

Terrain (Seiryuu) 青龍 : Ignores type advantages/disadvantages, except for 'No effect'.
Terrain (Suzaku) 朱雀 : HP healing instead deals damage, except for some skills and abilities.
Terrain (Byakko) 白虎 : Skills will always hit, but cannot be a critical hit, except for some skills.
Terrain (Genbu) 玄武 : Turn order based on dolls' speed will be reversed. (Priority and abilities like 'Slow Tempo' still works as normal)

Ok added the English names to them so in case anyone is running with the wiki or something, having this really helps me out!

The Akyuu thing looks interesting, is anyone in the situation to test this out?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: utsuho on January 13, 2015, 12:43:01 PM
The Akyuu thing looks interesting, is anyone in the situation to test this out?

I just tried it out, and yes she does get a few (3) turns of invulnerability to attacks, which might be enough to do some damage with miasma (toxic) and squall (whirlwind)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 13, 2015, 04:01:58 PM
Okay, I deafeted Medicine, Yuuka and Tsukumo sisters. Now what? Giant Suika still doesn't want me to get through.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 13, 2015, 11:56:37 PM
Okay, I deafeted Medicine, Yuuka and Tsukumo sisters. Now what? Giant Suika still doesn't want me to get through.

Go talk to Byakuren. The clue for this is pretty vague: Yuuka tells you to talk to someone who "knows about other worlds". You're supposed to think Makai, I guess, but there are plenty of other worlds in Touhou so I just went around talking to everyone.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 14, 2015, 02:03:16 AM
ARRG! Seija just used something and ended the battle! I know Koakuma coming up does the same, any ideas how to stop them from running?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 14, 2015, 02:28:51 AM
ARRG! Seija just used something and ended the battle! I know Koakuma coming up does the same, any ideas how to stop them from running?

There are a number of abilities that stop puppets from running away, but I doubt you have any yet (you might have Assist Chen's Adverse Wind, I guess). Personally I just got lucky though. If you can defeat them in one hit then all you need is for their first turn not to run, and for the thread to hit.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 14, 2015, 03:15:09 AM
I thought that too but with how rare Seija is and how often she uses her move it get's hard to rely on luck.

I did however get a answer from a member of the Puppet Play forums as a answer!

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Seija's move is a Roar clone, so puppets with Iron Resolve (Kurumi and Elly are nearby and both get it) can block it. Koakuma however uses Changeling, which causes her to escape; you'll want something with Dark-absorption (Dark Clothing Defense Rumia and Negative Aura Murasa forms are the easiest to get) to stop it from working. If you're not nuzlocking though, both puppets are fairly common in the areas they appear so you're probably best off just throwing a seal turn 1 and one-shotting it on turn 2.

So now I'm off to get my Elly out of the box.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 14, 2015, 06:49:14 AM
Go talk to Byakuren. The clue for this is pretty vague: Yuuka tells you to talk to someone who "knows about other worlds". You're supposed to think Makai, I guess, but there are plenty of other worlds in Touhou so I just went around talking to everyone.
Oh, that makes sense. I didn't really read the dialogues. I don't understand Japanese. Thanks.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on January 14, 2015, 11:55:40 AM
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Go talk to Byakuren. The clue for this is pretty vague: Yuuka tells you to talk to someone who "knows about other worlds". You're supposed to think Makai, I guess, but there are plenty of other worlds in Touhou so I just went around talking to everyone.

Why in the world would the makers assume players will think of Makai? The most obvious person would be Yukari for knowing about the outside world. Other more obvious choices would be Kaguya or Eirin, who knows about the moon. Makai is a bit less obvious. But I guess given the context that Yuuka is saying this, you are supposed to think Makai?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 14, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
It's really bizarre. Even Akyuu says she doesn't know about other worlds. Marisa and Reimu respectively leaves for Meikai and Tenkai for similar reasons.
I was only able to guess it because the order somewhat follows the chronological order of the official games.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 14, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Why in the world would the makers assume players will think of Makai? The most obvious person would be Yukari for knowing about the outside world. Other more obvious choices would be Kaguya or Eirin, who knows about the moon. Makai is a bit less obvious. But I guess given the context that Yuuka is saying this, you are supposed to think Makai?

Don't forget that Kanako would also know about the Outside World, and even if you think Makai maybe you'd go talk to Alice instead?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 14, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
I'm in Makai now. Mai is level 100, Nazrin's pretty close to that too. I caught Shinki and Sariel.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 AM
I was noticed about one item that can give your puppet a 50% more experience when she win a battle.
But.... I don't know what I need to do (or if I was get already) an what is the traduction in japanese.
Somebody knows? :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 15, 2015, 01:30:08 AM
I was noticed about one item that can give your puppet a 50% more experience when she win a battle.
But.... I don't know what I need to do (or if I was get already) an what is the traduction in japanese.
Somebody knows? :ohdear:

I don't fully understand your question, but if your asking where to get the item that boosts your experience, Kanako gives it to you after you fight her (which you can do the first time you get to the Moriya Shrine). You can also get a better 100% boost version from Suwako after you beat the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 15, 2015, 01:52:54 AM
I don't fully understand your question, but if your asking where to get the item that boosts your experience, Kanako gives it to you after you fight her (which you can do the first time you get to the Moriya Shrine). You can also get a better 100% boost version from Suwako after you beat the game.
thanks  ....but.... I don't know which item is .
I can't understand japanese and I need to know the name of the item in the original language.
again, thanks anyway
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 15, 2015, 02:39:27 AM
thanks  ....but.... I don't know which item is .
I can't understand japanese and I need to know the name of the item in the original language.
again, thanks anyway

It's called 戦闘の教範.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 15, 2015, 03:25:46 AM
It's called 戦闘の教範.
Thanks, buddy. I was have already two of those ones XD
really Suwako have the item ? Anyway. I'll just make another  team. Because this one that I have, its pretty ineffective against the elite four. I don't know why the hell those puppets can make me a 1 hit K.O . My dolls make an effective hit and its not enought to K.O. by 1 Hit. dude!~
And, again, thank you ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Starxsword on January 15, 2015, 06:40:14 AM
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Don't forget that Kanako would also know about the Outside World, and even if you think Makai maybe you'd go talk to Alice instead?

Yeah, their choice and wording is bizarre. There is also Yumemi and Chiyuri, and Mugetsu and Gengetsu. But I don't know if they are characters in this game.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 15, 2015, 06:54:38 AM
Yeah, their choice and wording is bizarre. There is also Yumemi and Chiyuri, and Mugetsu and Gengetsu. But I don't know if they are characters in this game.

Everyone is in the game!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 15, 2015, 02:38:53 PM
I defeated Shinki with Mai only. That's hilarious. Yumeko gave me much more problem than her master.
Question: What now? I've heard that you get Gap Map from Yukari, but I don't now when. Do I have it? Or do I need to do something else? Are doors to the Great Mausoleum finally open?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 15, 2015, 02:56:45 PM
You can get the Sukimap(スキマップ) from Chen, who is in the abandoned village, east side of Youkai Mountain.
I, personally, am really amazed that you went through everything by, um, bicycle.

Unlike its Pokemon counterpart, this 'Fly' works even in caves and buildings.
With this, you can even do things like fight Yuki, gap back to Makai, then fight Yuki again for easy grinding.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: WillabyNeko on January 15, 2015, 11:57:39 PM
I've never had that error before. The patcher goes straight to asking me where my game is installed as long as that file exists and says
"[InstallSettings]
InstallPath=yourinstallpathhere"

Shurcle, i have the files and such all set, but i always get the the Error about the failure to locate the udm file, i'd appreciate it if I could have some help to fix this, i have it on version 1.02, and want to patch it to 1.13
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 16, 2015, 02:04:13 AM
Shurcle, i have the files and such all set, but i always get the the Error about the failure to locate the udm file, i'd appreciate it if I could have some help to fix this, i have it on version 1.02, and want to patch it to 1.13

Technically a legit copy of the game installs into a Focuslens folder, there should be no issue with it. That is unless you tried to use a partial patch. Best thing in that case is to take your save file and save it somewhere, then reinstall the game. I'd really advise against using partial patches, if you a question just either show us a picture of something or discribe it to us. I'm more then happy to help where I can.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 16, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Since I'm finally done with Hollow Ataraxia, I started the game.

It may seem redundant because everyone is so far in the game, but man, so much things done right compared to Pok?mon. The PP system is stellar compared to the usual EVs and learnset, and I'm not even half an hour in.
Also, catching seems less of a hassle.

Just to confirm, the first category of items (red) is only for selling purposes, right?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 16, 2015, 05:22:45 PM
Since I'm finally done with Hollow Ataraxia, I started the game.

It may seem redundant because everyone is so far in the game, but man, so much things done right compared to Pok?mon. The PP system is stellar compared to the usual EVs and learnset, and I'm not even half an hour in.
Also, catching seems less of a hassle.

Just to confirm, the first category of items (red) is only for selling purposes, right?

Don't worry, I'm not very far since I'm working on a visual location guide lol.

Yes red is for selling. However you do get items with the kanji for magic, don't sell those. I can't pull up the kanji right now (work and phone) but its the same one used in Marisa's name. That's what I look for.

Also I'd suggest you make a list of your puppets attacks and mark which ones your using so you remember what they do. The wiki has info on what they have.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 16, 2015, 06:16:52 PM
I managed to make it to Mokou in a Nuzlocke run and then the level spike caught me, I got stuck with 2 puppets left and died to Marisa, left unable to even go to a PC :V

Benben is surprisingly awesome by the way. Bulky; decent typing; Drain Seed + Lullaby... she was my fallback when things went wrong. [Aaand then Mokou came out after she beat her Futo and killed her from 3/4rs despite her being tanky]

I had the mental image of my Benben having a Yuuka-sort of attitude; singing her enemies to sleep before she watched their life get sucked out of them...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: BT on January 16, 2015, 06:47:02 PM
Yo. Where can I follow the progress on the translation patch?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sahgren on January 16, 2015, 07:05:28 PM
Yo. Where can I follow the progress on the translation patch?

Here. (http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=efc3dcc486408ee2cb0d6d7246af6485&board=15.0) Updates are posted on a "When It's Done" basis.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 16, 2015, 07:33:51 PM
Does anyone have a completed save file? I'd like to finish as much of the guide as possible since I'm stuck to needing to progress to get the info I need.

That is unless people want to help? All I need are a picture of the location name that pops up, battle background of area, then puppets found in area.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 16, 2015, 09:32:23 PM
I don't want anymore a lot of dolls. Actually, I have a lot of repeated dolls and I want to give some ones to Hina. Somebody says Hina can delete your dolls if you give it to her.
One problem... : Where is Hina?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 16, 2015, 10:24:16 PM
I don't want anymore a lot of dolls. Actually, I have a lot of repeated dolls and I want to give some ones to Hina. Somebody says Hina can delete your dolls if you give it to her.
One problem... : Where is Hina?
Youkai Mountain.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 16, 2015, 11:17:47 PM
Well; OHKO'ing the first Reimu encounter's Reimu feels pretty good.

[Kokoro's Water Dance into a starter Chiyuri zapping her. This is another attempt at a Nuzlocke. And yes; I had a first encounter Kokoro.]
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 17, 2015, 02:47:11 AM
Youkai Mountain.
Dude... The Youkai Mountain uts so damn big. Well....
I was finish 2 times again the elite four.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 17, 2015, 03:14:18 AM
Just to confirm, the first category of items (red) is only for selling purposes, right?

Not quite. For some reason Repels go in there too, and one of the sell items is actually used to reincarnate puppets in the post-game. It's the one that sells for 200 and has a longer name in Japanese (assuming you can't read it). "Magical Fragments" or something like that if you have it translated.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 17, 2015, 03:26:36 AM
Not quite. For some reason Repels go in there too, and one of the sell items is actually used to reincarnate puppets in the post-game. It's the one that sells for 200 and has a longer name in Japanese (assuming you can't read it). "Magical Fragments" or something like that if you have it translated.
Ohhhhhh..... That was the reason that why I never have any fragment :derp: I alwas sell all my stuff before defeat all trainers and raising my dolls....
dude. It could have been much T_T
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 17, 2015, 06:58:46 AM
Does anyone have a completed save file? I'd like to finish as much of the guide as possible since I'm stuck to needing to progress to get the info I need.

That is unless people want to help? All I need are a picture of the location name that pops up, battle background of area, then puppets found in area.
I can give you my saves after I get Gap Map, So you will be able to fly where you want.

I always sell that red stuff, but never a whole stack, in case somthing in it is important.

EDIT: Okay, it seems I had Gap Map the whole time.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 17, 2015, 12:17:40 PM
I can give you my saves after I get Gap Map, So you will be able to fly where you want.

I always sell that red stuff, but never a whole stack, in case somthing in it is important.

EDIT: Okay, it seems I had Gap Map the whole time.

Thank you! This really helps! I do hope that once its done it turns out the way I think it does, the test image I posted had good responses.

When I do post it please let me know if I missed any puppets on anywhere, I'll quickly get the new version out at that time.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 17, 2015, 02:45:09 PM
God damnit, Iku! Your just being unfair! First you consume like 10 best seals an when I finally seal you just can't get hit! I'm keeping you in my team. My team sucks, I need to shuffle it. (only puppets that don't suck are Nazrin and Mai)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 17, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
God damnit, Iku! Your just being unfair! First you consume like 10 best seals an when I finally seal you just can't get hit! I'm keeping you in my team. My team sucks, I need to shuffle it. (only puppets that don't suck are Nazrin and Mai)

I feel so bad for my puppets, the only one I've used so far has been Alice (starter). She's so good against everything I've faced so far, not so mention that since she is slow I have terrain Genbu to switch that up. (Thank you btw for the save I really appreciate it, work will go much faster.)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Mew seeker on January 17, 2015, 03:11:31 PM
Don't forget that Kanako would also know about the Outside World, and even if you think Makai maybe you'd go talk to Alice instead?

I have not seen the game's dialogue and thus cannot comment on it.
That being said, Byakuren was sealed for a while in Makai which probably explain how she stole Shinki's spellcard so it make some sense that if you want to know about Makai that you go talk to her.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 17, 2015, 03:45:38 PM
I have not seen the game's dialogue and thus cannot comment on it.
That being said, Byakuren was sealed for a while in Makai which probably explain how she stole Shinki's spellcard so it make some sense that if you want to know about Makai that you go talk to her.
Its not probably....  :V  Because, she might be unconscious while she was sealed in the makai. I mean, that's what I think
I can't challenge her one more time. Anyway, I'm not sure if the door in the cave behind the Myouren Shrine its available to open, or I need a special key for do that. But i'm more interested to get Yumemi, Chiyuri, Mugetsu and Gengetsu. :derp: I can't found they yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 17, 2015, 03:51:31 PM
By the way, after defeating Yuuka, Kanako will still bid the player good luck on returning to the outside world.
Alice comments that Koumakan wasn't the cause of the incident after all, and that she doesn't have any other ideas. She is lagging behind the times.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 17, 2015, 06:10:16 PM
What the hell, my computer just messed up with resolution of the game, so when I run it it was tiny and now quality is shitty
Can I fix it somehow?

Well, maybe not shitty, but worse than before.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 17, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
What the hell, my computer just messed up with resolution of the game, so when I run it it was tiny and now quality is shitty
Can I fix it somehow?

Well, maybe not shitty, but worse than before.

try double clicking the game window in the center that increases its size.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 17, 2015, 07:15:33 PM
try double clicking the game window in the center that increases its size.
Thanks! Now it's good quality again.

Miko, let me catch you please. I'm trying 10 minutes and I only get Seiga, Futo and Tojiko.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 17, 2015, 08:09:20 PM
God damnit, Iku! Your just being unfair! First you consume like 10 best seals an when I finally seal you just can't get hit! I'm keeping you in my team. My team sucks, I need to shuffle it. (only puppets that don't suck are Nazrin and Mai)
Should I Repeat that time when I used 20+ seals against Shinki?? -.-
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 17, 2015, 10:15:49 PM
*Is still Nuzlockeing*

*Myouren Temple Graveyard*

*First Encounter Yuyuko*

Not bad.

*Gets to Akyuu PC*

*S in HP and Spread Attack*
*+ Spread Attack nature*

WHAT IS THIS LUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 18, 2015, 01:17:27 AM
I have not seen the game's dialogue and thus cannot comment on it.
That being said, Byakuren was sealed for a while in Makai which probably explain how she stole Shinki's spellcard so it make some sense that if you want to know about Makai that you go talk to her.

I didn't say it made no sense, I said that it was competing with a variety of options that make exactly as much sense.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on January 18, 2015, 04:35:05 AM
But i'm more interested to get Yumemi, Chiyuri, Mugetsu and Gengetsu. :derp: I can't found they yet.

Try Route 2 for the first 2 and Route 8 for the other 2.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 19, 2015, 04:41:40 AM
Try Route 2 for the first 2 and Route 8 for the other 2.
Thanks, buddy. I was found Yumemi and Chiyuri. But, actually, I dont have any idea about wich route its one, I don't have translate already the game. Only Kana, Gengetsu and Mugetsu to complete my dex
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on January 19, 2015, 11:29:06 AM
Thanks, buddy. I was found Yumemi and Chiyuri. But, actually, I dont have any idea about wich route its one, I don't have translate already the game. Only Kana, Gengetsu and Mugetsu to complete my dex

Kana can be found to the right of Misty Lake past those rocks, Gengetsu and Mugetsu can be found at the path from fighting Medicine to Yuuka's house.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 19, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Kana can be found to the right of Misty Lake past those rocks, Gengetsu and Mugetsu can be found at the path from fighting Medicine to Yuuka's house.
I COULD HAVE MUGETSU SO EARLY?!
I assume they're super rare or something? I encountered only Kurumi's and Elly's here. Eventually Orange.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Solomander on January 19, 2015, 05:29:37 PM
Where do i find a Shinki doll?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 19, 2015, 05:50:06 PM
So how exactly does catching work? You just throw the circle thingy, beat the foe and catch it?

I didn't fiddle around with it, but I'm too much curious.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 19, 2015, 05:57:47 PM
So how exactly does catching work? You just throw the circle thingy, beat the foe and catch it?

I didn't fiddle around with it, but I'm too much curious.

Yep exactly like that. The better the seal the less likely it will fail and stay active longer.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 19, 2015, 06:03:38 PM
Oh, that's an interesting mechanic. So it has a chance to fail even if you KO the doll, I'll be careful with that.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 19, 2015, 06:08:54 PM
Oh, that's an interesting mechanic. So it has a chance to fail even if you KO the doll, I'll be careful with that.

Thanks!

Sorry I should clarify you ok the doll when the seal is active its 100%. Its when you first use a seal when  you have a chance to fail. Then the seal could run out early if the doll is too healthy or strong.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 19, 2015, 06:16:01 PM
Sorry I should clarify you ok the doll when the seal is active its 100%. Its when you first use a seal when  you have a chance to fail. Then the seal could run out early if the doll is too healthy or strong.
I should learn to read more carefully, thanks again.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 19, 2015, 06:25:52 PM
Yumemi has Subsitute learnt innately
n i c e

I really should update the first post
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 19, 2015, 06:29:40 PM
Yumemi has Subsitute learnt innately
n i c e

I really should update the first post

Please! I'm using it for the visual location guide.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Picochilla on January 19, 2015, 07:15:27 PM
Imma not good in japanese reading. So i have 2 questions:

1. Wich one is actually the right download Link for this game?
2. Any english patches out already? i actually doubt that, but i have no ideo how to play a touhou based pokemon-game when i cant read japanese ^^"
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 19, 2015, 07:56:22 PM
Imma not good in japanese reading. So i have 2 questions:

1. Wich one is actually the right download Link for this game?
2. Any english patches out already? i actually doubt that, but i have no ideo how to play a touhou based pokemon-game when i cant read japanese ^^"

There are no complete english patches. However you can apply a partial patch which i miself don't recommend.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 19, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
Flandre, can you show yourself please? Your the only from EoSD I'm missing.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 19, 2015, 11:39:59 PM
thanks, guys. I was complete my dex finally.
Then....... I was end the game? Now, its time to challenge real people XD
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 20, 2015, 08:55:54 AM
Now that I know how to hack encounters, I decided to make a challenge.
Do a fairy-only run. Only Star, Luna, Sunny, Cirno, Daiyousei and Lily White are usable. They are doing great so far.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 20, 2015, 10:08:04 AM
Now that I know how to hack encounters, I decided to make a challenge.
Do a fairy-only run. Only Star, Luna, Sunny, Cirno, Daiyousei and Lily White are usable. They are doing great so far.

Hack encounters? I'm very curious about this.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 20, 2015, 10:52:13 AM
Hack encounters? I'm very curious about this.
It's simple. Changing a Nazrin/Chen/Daiyousei/Sukuna to any character in the game. Just Cheat Engine.
Nazrin is 98
Daiyousei is 38
Sukuna is 122
Chen is 47
change any of those numbers with cheat engine to 70 and activite it.
If you're still in the encounter, escape. Next encounter will be Lunarchild (Luna is 70).
My english is not good. I don't know if you understand.  :blush:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 20, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
It's simple. Changing a Nazrin/Chen/Daiyousei/Sukuna to any character in the game. Just Cheat Engine.
Nazrin is 98
Daiyousei is 38
Sukuna is 122
Chen is 47
change any of those numbers with cheat engine to 70 and activite it.
If you're still in the encounter, escape. Next encounter will be Lunarchild (Luna is 70).
My english is not good. I don't know if you understand.  :blush:

I understand, no worries. :D I was just think if there was a way to find what each area had for puppets.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 20, 2015, 11:09:42 AM
Ok. I'm about to go to the Bamboo Forest. Just need to grind a bit more
(http://puu.sh/eM7vF/5fe1af6b48.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 20, 2015, 11:26:51 AM
Ok. I'm about to go to the Bamboo Forest. Just need to grind a bit more
(http://puu.sh/eM7vF/5fe1af6b48.png)

I don't know the other puppets too well, but power Cirno can just wreck! C80 with the power and speed of a C100 or C110 is nice.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 20, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
I don't know the other puppets too well, but power Cirno can just wreck! C80 with the power and speed of a C100 or C110 is nice.
I feel Lily White a bit weak.
Star is a good healer. She just weak to many elements.
Luna is fine. Good attacks. Not too many weakness.
Sunny is strong but, dark types... are a trouble and a strength. She's pretty much like Cirno but with fire.
Daiyousei, I don't know a lot about her.
I may easily defeat Mokou with Cirno+Star.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 20, 2015, 04:17:38 PM
Dude I just fought the most epic battle in history.

I was in ice caves and Cirno attacked me. She had two 99 level Cirnos (one assist and one power). I didn't stand a chance against her, as my puppets were underleveled - only Mai and Nazrin are on higher level (and Nazrin is weak to water, so I couldn't use her). Luckily, Mokou I caught before has "Hate Reincarnate" ability, which makes her do damage to opponent upon being KO'd. And that's how I defeated Cirno - I revived Mai and Mokou alternately, so her ability was able to kill Cirno's puppets. Luckily her Power Cirno used skill against Mai that does damage to user, so right before I ran out of revives Cirno died.

Fun fact: Mokou is level 32 (at least she was. After Cirno fight she got like 5 freaking level ups)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 20, 2015, 05:54:54 PM
Dude I just fought the most epic battle in history.

I was in ice caves and Cirno attacked me. She had two 99 level Cirnos (one assist and one power). I didn't stand a chance against her, as my puppets were underleveled - only Mai and Nazrin are on higher level (and Nazrin is weak to water, so I couldn't use her). Luckily, Mokou I caught before has "Hate Reincarnate" ability, which makes her do damage to opponent upon being KO'd. And that's how I defeated Cirno - I revived Mai and Mokou alternately, so her ability was able to kill Cirno's puppets. Luckily her Power Cirno used skill against Mai that does damage to user, so right before I ran out of revives Cirno died.

Fun fact: Mokou is level 32 (at least she was. After Cirno fight she got like 5 freaking level ups)

You haven't seen the Letty fight?
Cirno wasn't a big problem with Daiyousei.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 20, 2015, 06:18:07 PM
You haven't seen the Letty fight?
Cirno wasn't a big problem with Daiyousei.
Nope, I was too busy running the hell away and healing my poor puppets (Everyone died with only exeption being Mai. Mokou died blasting Cirno to death)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 20, 2015, 07:52:48 PM
Okay, just finished Bamboo Forest.

I don't have any real problem with understanding attacks, since I can just test them if I don't get the text right away, but I am really struggling with items, especially held items. Is there a list somewhere, or should I just ask here?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 20, 2015, 08:14:33 PM
Okay, just finished Bamboo Forest.

I don't have any real problem with understanding attacks, since I can just test them if I don't get the text right away, but I am really struggling with items, especially held items. Is there a list somewhere, or should I just ask here?
Yep, hold items are pretty problematic. It seems that one I gave once to Mai poisoned her when she got hit or something... At least it looked like it. I really doubt that Marisa can poison me.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 20, 2015, 08:36:28 PM
Okay, just finished Bamboo Forest.

I don't have any real problem with understanding attacks, since I can just test them if I don't get the text right away, but I am really struggling with items, especially held items. Is there a list somewhere, or should I just ask here?

As of right now there is no item list, not even on the wiki. I'm not even sure where to begin with held items either...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 20, 2015, 08:50:49 PM
There are so many items I don't really know what to say.

The ones in 装飾1(Accessories 1) are 'Berry' items that can be used only once per battle. They have many assorted effects.
They do come back after battle, so you can actually heal a doll's status effects at no cost, by giving the right 'berry', then just sending it out to battle.
But the game tells you this on a sign in front of a cave you can reach only after defeating Medicine.

治癒の符 heals all status effects. (Rather, that's what the description says, so I don't really know if it's true. But I'm sure it's true)


The ones in 装飾2(Accessories 2) are normal hold items.They have many assorted effects.

必殺の極意 boosts damage of  super-effective attacks.
兵糧丸 heals the holder by a little bit at the end of the turn. Sadly, battles can end before the turn ends, so one-shotting every wild doll will result in no healing.
双眼鏡 boosts accuracy by a bit.
The 髪飾り series boosts a particular type's damage by 20%, which can be useful.

On the items menu, you can press Shift, then select yes to sort the items, which tends to group together items with similar effects

The only thing I'd look out for would be 戦闘の教範(Training Manual), in 装飾2. A doll that holds this item will receive 50% more exp.
Kanako gives you this, and you can get one more in the cave behind Hakurei Shrine, but by the time you get the second one you've almost beaten the game.

Almost every item has a pokemon counterpart. Which would be helpful if you played pokemon. But some of them come from newer generations.

If you need them, I can tell you what every Accessory does. Although I'd rather not. It might collide with current translation efforts.

By the way, Power Aya one of the dolls which is just wrong. Wastes too much time.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 20, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
@Sungho : This much is already plenty helpful, thanks a lot!

Yep, hold items are pretty problematic. It seems that one I gave once to Mai poisoned her when she got hit or something... At least it looked like it. I really doubt that Marisa can poison me.
It sounds like a Poison Orb. In Pok?mon, this item poisons the Pok?mon that hold it, it's useful for activating Poison Heal.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 21, 2015, 04:18:17 AM
Dude I just fought the most epic battle in history.

I was in ice caves and Cirno attacked me. She had two 99 level Cirnos (one assist and one power). I didn't stand a chance against her, as my puppets were underleveled - only Mai and Nazrin are on higher level (and Nazrin is weak to water, so I couldn't use her). Luckily, Mokou I caught before has "Hate Reincarnate" ability, which makes her do damage to opponent upon being KO'd. And that's how I defeated Cirno - I revived Mai and Mokou alternately, so her ability was able to kill Cirno's puppets. Luckily her Power Cirno used skill against Mai that does damage to user, so right before I ran out of revives Cirno died.

Fun fact: Mokou is level 32 (at least she was. After Cirno fight she got like 5 freaking level ups)

I beat her (and many oth r bosses) with a level 40-ish Momiji. Fact: Momiji will always win a duel.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 21, 2015, 05:14:46 AM
I beat her (and many oth r bosses) with a level 40-ish Momiji. Fact: Momiji will always win a duel.

What? How!?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 21, 2015, 08:09:07 AM
What? How!?

As Speed Momiji anyway, she has Fair and Square which lets her survive at one HP, another move that makes the enemy's HP equal to hers (ie: 1), and then she can do a priority attack next turn to finish it off. Well, honestly it only works on enemies that are faster than her and kill her in one hit, but those are the ones you need the most help with.

You have to heal her to full before she can do it again though.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 21, 2015, 09:32:39 AM
As Speed Momiji anyway, she has Fair and Square which lets her survive at one HP, another move that makes the enemy's HP equal to hers (ie: 1), and then she can do a priority attack next turn to finish it off. Well, honestly it only works on enemies that are faster than her and kill her in one hit, but those are the ones you need the most help with.

You have to heal her to full before she can do it again though.
So F.E.A.R Level 1 Aron is back in Touhoumon? This sounds fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 21, 2015, 12:15:02 PM
So F.E.A.R Level 1 Aron is back in Touhoumon? This sounds fun.

Now it makes sense, oddly enough there are q lot of puppets with this tactic.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 21, 2015, 03:06:19 PM
So F.E.A.R Level 1 Aron is back in Touhoumon? This sounds fun.

I hadn't though about this being a preexisting strategy in Pokemon, although I guess that's not surprising. Momiji is pretty much built entirely around it though: even the random battle Momijis will do the first part. However, she doesn't learn a priority move until quite high level. Also, you can get around the Illusion type's immunity to Void by using Gale Form instead of Fair and Square and holding a Black Choker.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on January 23, 2015, 01:53:16 AM
I don't know How I can meet Keine. I was defeated the elite 4 already  3 times. And still not in her school. Somebody knows something to get her Skill Card?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 23, 2015, 11:14:02 AM
I don't know How I can meet Keine. I was defeated the elite 4 already  3 times. And still not in her school. Somebody knows something to get her Skill Card?

You're supposed to be able to talk to her immediately after you fight Marisa on the way back from Eientei (after you beat Mokou, before you go to SDM). I think it's the first Skill Card you're supposed to get, since it comes with a little explanation, and Marisa reminds you to go talk to her to get your reward for helping her out. If you're not seeing her, you either have a bug in your game or you're mistaking which building is supposed to be her school.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ThatOneShrroth on January 24, 2015, 04:58:55 PM
So, I kind of didn't know how to save until it was too late, and I lost my set of five Touhoumon I'd caught, among them a Sukuna. The others are fairly common, but I'd only found one Sukuna, and lady luck is being mean now.  I read a page back that you can mess with the encounters by searching for the dex number and altering it, but when I search for a number (say I encounter a Chen), plug that number in, and search for it, I get about 4,000 results. Would someone be kind enough to explain the process a bit more to me? I'd like to get my midget back. ;w;
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Picochilla on January 25, 2015, 06:48:32 PM
And so... i can't patch the game somehow: http://imgur.com/SCnyYUj

The english error Message says "cannot upen udm File" so i tried to use Local Japanese and the error message seems to be different. Just no idea what it says...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 25, 2015, 06:59:40 PM
And so... i can't patch the game somehow: http://imgur.com/SCnyYUj

The english error Message says "cannot upen udm File" so i tried to use Local Japanese and the error message seems to be different. Just no idea what it says...
I have same problem.

I defeated Yukari. She was easier than Three Fairies of light. Now she opened the path for me. Where does it go? I'm pretty afraid to go there.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 25, 2015, 07:01:28 PM
And so... i can't patch the game somehow: http://imgur.com/SCnyYUj

The english error Message says "cannot upen udm File" so i tried to use Local Japanese and the error message seems to be different. Just no idea what it says...

Where do you have your game installed in? The patcher doesn't work if the game isn't installed in the right place.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 25, 2015, 07:31:10 PM
Piracy is a huge No-No for this forum, we have rules and guidelines on the forum set in place for that. I suggest you read that first.

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8185.0.html (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8185.0.html)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Picochilla on January 25, 2015, 07:33:45 PM
If thats so then a mod should plz delete those posts related to this now. :/
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 25, 2015, 07:36:35 PM
I have same problem.

I defeated Yukari. She was easier than Three Fairies of light. Now she opened the path for me. Where does it go? I'm pretty afraid to go there.
Network battles.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 25, 2015, 07:39:22 PM
Network battles.

I can't remember if network battles are still iffy to use or to get working. I know almost nothing about ports and stuff so I hope there will be a easy to use way to network battle.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 25, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Network battles.
Oh. Ok. Then I'll continue catching puppets. I have only 12 (I think?) that I haven't caught yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 26, 2015, 12:42:10 AM
I have read somewhere that an build of the english patch is coming soon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhukrx233tE Read the description for info on it!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Spotty Len on January 26, 2015, 10:07:21 AM
Seems awfully early, even for a English Menu patch.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 26, 2015, 12:08:46 PM
Seems awfully early, even for a English Menu patch.

Well from what i understood, the graphical interfaces are all translated. All that's left is dialogue, skills, and a few other things.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 26, 2015, 03:40:48 PM
Where's Kana? I've never seen her. Also, are Chiyuri and Yumemi before cave to Makai? I've never met them here.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sungho on January 26, 2015, 04:00:09 PM
You can find Kana in the grass in front of the Abandoned Mansion, east of Misty Lake. You'll need to be able to break rocks to get there.
Quite rare, though.

You can find Chiyuri and Yumemi in Route 2, north of the road that connects Hakurei Shrine and the Human Village.
You'll also need to be able to break rocks to get there.
Yumemi is slightly rare.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 26, 2015, 04:18:04 PM
It sounds like a Poison Orb. In Pok?mon, this item poisons the Pok?mon that hold it, it's useful for activating Poison Heal.

Yamame has poison heal
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 26, 2015, 07:06:52 PM
And so I completed Touhoudex/Journal/Book. What now?  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 27, 2015, 12:09:59 AM
Fairy run failed vs. Remi.
Started random character run some days ago.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Fulisha of Light on January 28, 2015, 01:20:36 AM
Are shiny Touhoumon in this game? I've been searching for one, but I haven't had any luck so far.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 28, 2015, 01:23:53 AM
Are shiny Touhoumon in this game? I've been searching for one, but I haven't had any luck so far.

Right now no. But Hemp is gonna be adding costumes and possible shiny ones in the game. The example he gave was Kyouko in her punk outfit then ones with black hair and blue clothes.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Fulisha of Light on January 28, 2015, 02:24:21 AM
Right now no. But Hemp is gonna be adding costumes and possible shiny ones in the game. The example he gave was Kyouko in her punk outfit then ones with black hair and blue clothes.

Well I searched for nothing  :( do you got a link to the example?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 28, 2015, 02:59:40 AM
More info here: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48031566 (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48031566)

(http://i3.pixiv.net/img-original/img/2015/01/06/21/48/43/48031566_p0.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Fulisha of Light on January 28, 2015, 03:27:46 AM
More info here: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48031566 (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48031566)

(http://i3.pixiv.net/img-original/img/2015/01/06/21/48/43/48031566_p0.png)

Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 28, 2015, 03:32:39 AM
Thanks  :D

No problem! I can't wait too see what all gets included and how it works.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 28, 2015, 07:38:21 AM
How to get trough Ice Cave? I'm completely lost in here.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: HotGarbage on January 31, 2015, 02:51:21 AM
Seems awfully early, even for a English Menu patch.
Actually this particular game managed to pick up some impressive momentum very early. Here's a (two week old) breakdown of what has and has not been done: http://derxwnakapsyla.tumblr.com/post/108042240645/touhou-puppet-dance-performance-translation

From what I've read the current hurdle is hex editing certain text, which is a massive pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on January 31, 2015, 02:02:12 PM
I always get surprised by how complicated some games really are on the inside.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on January 31, 2015, 02:51:29 PM
Does anyone know if it is possible to farm up enough money to buy the item from Tewi or is it just a prank?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 31, 2015, 08:02:08 PM
Does anyone know if it is possible to farm up enough money to buy the item from Tewi or is it just a prank?

Wait, where's Tewi? I don't remember anything like that at all. How much money does she want?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on January 31, 2015, 11:32:56 PM
I am hyped for the completion of this game's translation :) i actually will do a let's play of it in my channel. If i can... i will open a poll to decide who will become my starter and also for other members of the team ( i was about to spell pokemon over there )
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on February 01, 2015, 03:05:33 AM
Wait, where's Tewi? I don't remember anything like that at all. How much money does she want?

Bamboo forest: down
Tewi asked for 10,000,000.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 05, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
I'm replaying the game with IN puppets only. Right now I got Udonge (starter) and Keine. This will be fun~
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on February 05, 2015, 11:54:28 PM
This is my current team before going for Shinki! Also there are the random characters picked. Will train Yorihime a bit more.
(http://puu.sh/fwFLl/c176c5c805.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on February 06, 2015, 03:19:36 AM
I beat Shinki with my team at around 80, how are you even that high? :V
(no they're not all slow levelers)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 06, 2015, 03:10:15 PM
I beat Shinki with one 2hu :V (yes, she was hundred)
And I'm wondering, why my computer instead of making the game run in Japanese it runs in some strange and stupid mess of characters. Anyone know how to prevent it? (I tried running it in Japanese locale program, but then game just shows the black screen sometimes flashing blue square at the bottom of the screen). I have Win 8.1, if that's important.
Example:
(http://i.imgur.com/r9qObrr.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on February 06, 2015, 04:03:54 PM
I run 8.1 but I have my region set to Japan and I run it normally without applocal. You may need to go into your language settings and download a Japanese language pack to have it display Japanese.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 06, 2015, 04:17:51 PM
I run 8.1 but I have my region set to Japan and I run it normally without applocal. You may need to go into your language settings and download a Japanese language pack to have it display Japanese.
I'll try it.

Reisen is pretty good, but she's sucks against sound poppets. Like every illusion puppet.
I also caught Mystia and I'm on the way to Bamboo Forest now, where I'll catch rest of my team (Mokou, Kaguya and Eirin).
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on February 06, 2015, 07:04:38 PM
I beat Shinki with my team at around 80, how are you even that high? :V
(no they're not all slow levelers)
Don't know. Merlin did level up fast. Koishi has the item from Kanako... Hatate was my starter. I simply don't know how I reached such high levels before Shinki...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 06, 2015, 09:28:55 PM
Don't know. Merlin did level up fast. Koishi has the item from Kanako... Hatate was my starter. I simply don't know how I reached such high levels before Shinki...
My Mai also got level 100 before Shinki. I didn't skip wild battles until late in game and I used her a lot. My Nazrin was also pretty high-leveled. Other 2hus were pretty new and had much lower level than this two (I constantly changed my team)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Sparen on February 07, 2015, 12:31:44 AM
I'm more worried about over leveling my party...

I entered Chireiden recently and every time I get a new party member that I want, they're always 20ish levels below my weakest party member (who is 8 or so levels below the strongest). And then I grind, and suddenly, I'm over leveled.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 07, 2015, 10:06:03 AM
Okay I hate Kanako.
Her Speed Suwako can one shot half of my party. I really wanted her level-boosting item, my poor Toyohime is underleveled comparing to rest of my party...

Edit: I attemted second time and it wasn't all that hard. I just le stupidly die my party instead of doing something to kill that damn Suwako...

Edit2: Mystia is the best! She has nice attacks, level-ups pretty fast, is fast herself and has nice type combo. You can also catch her pretty early in game.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on February 09, 2015, 07:46:47 PM
Keine still not in the human village.
What I'm gona do to challenge Mokou?
I was talking with Eirin an Kaguya. If I'll understand the japanese :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on February 09, 2015, 08:08:09 PM
Is it me or Keine puppet becomes extremely rare once Reisen appears there??
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on February 09, 2015, 08:24:56 PM
Like Reisen herself or the puppet?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 09, 2015, 08:58:07 PM
Is it me or Keine puppet becomes extremely rare once Reisen appears there??
Same with me. She just didn't wanted to show up :<

(If you mean Reisen in Human Village as a NPC)
 
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: HotGarbage on February 10, 2015, 12:52:28 AM
Just a heads up: a partial (functional) patch for version 1.18 was let loose a few days ago (https://mega.co.nz/#!Ogt1UbJB!MwJhoUIBMyNrxHs15pH3aF9Q1V9LLEJDtSUrnmssPQ4). With this most all gameplay-related assets are translated, while flavor text (story, etc) will have to wait for the full translation. Needless to say this makes the game a good deal more enjoyable!
The easiest way to get this working would be to rename your old .dat folder and move the downloaded .dat into the Touhou Puppet Dance Performance folder. Don't delete the old one- you need it for future patching.

I'm more worried about over leveling my party...

I entered Chireiden recently and every time I get a new party member that I want, they're always 20ish levels below my weakest party member (who is 8 or so levels below the strongest). And then I grind, and suddenly, I'm over leveled.
Yeah, overleveling is a problem. Because of the built-in experience share system every time you get a new member up to speed you end up overleveled, and this compounds with each new addition.
Also it's worth mentioning that 80 cost puppets are fairly ridiculous: for the experience it takes to bring a 120 cost puppet to lvl 50 you could have an 80 cost puppet nearing 62, and many of them are very potent in spite of the overall lower BST (cough cough Power Kana). If you want to see the exp data for yourself check out this link (http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/User:Sachlyric#Cost_and_EXP).

Once the full translation hits I'll probably start a new run myself and switch out all main members when raising new ones. I'll also probably avoid 80 cost puppets to keep the challenge right.

Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Validon98 on February 10, 2015, 04:09:01 AM
The patch doesn't seem to work if you've patched to version 1.19. I just get an error when I start the game.

EDIT: Figured out how to get it to keep a backup of 1.18, so I just swapped out the .exe and it works properly now. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: BT on February 13, 2015, 06:16:12 PM
Someone wanna send me a screenshot of their game directory? The update patches won't patch and I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on February 14, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Yeah, overleveling is a problem. Because of the built-in experience share system every time you get a new member up to speed you end up overleveled, and this compounds with each new addition.
Also it's worth mentioning that 80 cost puppets are fairly ridiculous: for the experience it takes to bring a 120 cost puppet to lvl 50 you could have an 80 cost puppet nearing 62, and many of them are very potent in spite of the overall lower BST (cough cough Power Kana). If you want to see the exp data for yourself check out this link (http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/User:Sachlyric#Cost_and_EXP).

Once the full translation hits I'll probably start a new run myself and switch out all main members when raising new ones. I'll also probably avoid 80 cost puppets to keep the challenge right.

However, for the exact same reason it's never necessary to raise new puppets at all: just leave 'em in the back row while you go on with the game and they'll catch up soon enough. Stopping to raise them is the sole source of your problem. I was even bringing level 1 reincarnated puppets to the post-game bonus bosses.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 17, 2015, 07:01:28 PM
Is this even possible?! (I'm doing a random run now. I also resolved my problem with correct display of kanji!)

(http://i.imgur.com/eQXi33j.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on February 18, 2015, 02:38:27 AM
Breed her! Her IVs are great!

Also how did you fix your issue?

(I really need to play again and finish that location guide...)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 18, 2015, 08:42:30 AM
Breed her! Her IVs are great!

Also how did you fix your issue?

(I really need to play again and finish that location guide...)
Oh, that was easy. I changed my unicode to Japanese and reinstalled the game. I play mostly Japanese games, so I'm fine with that. ALso thanks to that, pathes finally worked and I have version 1.19 now. Now I'm waiting for English patch.

Edit: Okay Reimu's cheating. Her freaking Aya ALWAYS hits me five times. That's bullshit!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on February 18, 2015, 01:18:58 PM
One of Aya's abilities makes multi-hit attacks always hit five times.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 18, 2015, 01:49:03 PM
One of Aya's abilities makes multi-hit attacks always hit five times.
Really? I hate you even more now, Aya. (I definitely need to use her in one of my future runs~)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on February 23, 2015, 12:11:31 PM
While there are plenty of ways to deal with Aya, the one I found most amusing is that item that causes damage to the attacker every time the holder is hit with a weak attack. It generally causes more damage to Aya than she does to you.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 23, 2015, 12:20:35 PM
While there are plenty of ways to deal with Aya, the one I found most amusing is that item that causes damage to the attacker every time the holder is hit with a weak attack. It generally causes more damage to Aya than she does to you.
I saw someone using this trick in speedrun of this game. You can buy it in human village, yes? Though I don't now how this item is called (I still have Japanese version).

Anyway, I caught 19 Sanae's until I found the one that I wanted to keep in my party. And the one I have on my team now was caught with the last seal I had. Now this is what they call luck.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on February 23, 2015, 12:58:56 PM
Anyway, I caught 19 Sanae's until I found the one that I wanted to keep in my party. And the one I have on my team now was caught with the last seal I had. Now this is what they call luck.

You could just save/load every time you caught one that you do not want until you are happy. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 24, 2015, 10:29:56 AM
You could just save/load every time you caught one that you do not want until you are happy. :V
I... I didn't think about that...
Whatever.
I started the game once again using Suwako, Sukuna and Team 9 without Cirno (sob sob). And the weaklings actually are better than Sukuna :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on February 24, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
This is my new team for this new random run.
(http://puu.sh/gb3aq/3a672987ca.png)
Ok no. These are characters I always wanted to use, but never had the chance to.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on February 28, 2015, 08:35:53 PM
This is my new team for this new random run.
(http://puu.sh/gb3aq/3a672987ca.png)
Ok no. These are characters I always wanted to use, but never had the chance to.
How did you get them all on so low levels? Is there something I don't know?

And... What "Rolling Thunder" does? It's untranslated on wiki and it has very high PP cost (Raiko learns that automatically when chosen)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on February 28, 2015, 09:58:19 PM
How did you get them all on so low levels? Is there something I don't know?

And... What "Rolling Thunder" does? It's untranslated on wiki and it has very high PP cost (Raiko learns that automatically when chosen)
Encounter hacking using Cheat Engine. Except Koakuma, she was my starter.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Mew seeker on March 01, 2015, 01:14:26 AM
And... What "Rolling Thunder" does? It's untranslated on wiki and it has very high PP cost (Raiko learns that automatically when chosen)

Do you have a picture/text of the description? That would be a good start.  :3
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: HotGarbage on March 01, 2015, 03:12:29 AM
However, for the exact same reason it's never necessary to raise new puppets at all: just leave 'em in the back row while you go on with the game and they'll catch up soon enough. Stopping to raise them is the sole source of your problem. I was even bringing level 1 reincarnated puppets to the post-game bonus bosses.
You're absolutely right! I guess I just applied my previous Pokemon experience to this new system without thinking. However, sometimes I get excited about a new member and want to use it ASAP. In which case I will have to switch out main members, but it's not that big of a deal.

This is my new team for this new random run.
(http://puu.sh/gb3aq/3a672987ca.png)
Ok no. These are characters I always wanted to use, but never had the chance to.
Some of those choices are pretty interesting. What's your impression of your team so far?

And... What "Rolling Thunder" does? It's untranslated on wiki and it has very high PP cost (Raiko learns that automatically when chosen)
It goes first and causes the opponent to flinch. In addition it causes no damage and has 1SP...


Oh, and for those who haven't heard an official release of the partial translation (http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=446.0) (for 1.19) was posted around two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on March 01, 2015, 09:07:50 AM
Oh, so it all it does? How useless... (Then why the hell is it so expensive?)
I wanted to do "Musical Team" my brother asked me to, but Remilia is brutal...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Thata no Guykoro on March 27, 2015, 05:25:52 AM
So I've just picked this up at the 1.10 version, and I'm trying to patch it up to 1.20 after downloading from the official site; but all that ever happens when I run the patcher in the main folder is it runs through 1.10 -> 1.11 and on up to 1.20 without ever actually changing anything (when I close the patcher, it's at the 1.10 version still). Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on March 29, 2015, 05:04:14 AM
1.30 is out, looks like a very big update. :o

That costume change, just a bit disappointed that some of the sprites I thought they would have didn't make it in. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on March 29, 2015, 11:47:13 AM
1.30 is out, looks like a very big update. :o

That costume change, just a bit disappointed that some of the sprites I thought they would have didn't make it in. :(
I downloaded it.
Suwako and Sukuna are so pretty!
Mai also look awesome.
Miko made me laugh.
Mokou is pretty good idea.
I was hoping for Yuuka to be in her second classic design, but "sleeping terror" is fine by me.
Murasa is awesome!
Tenshi is just... well...
Sekibanki wtf.
Yuyuko is very pretty.

Best patch ever.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on March 29, 2015, 11:52:33 AM
I downloaded it.
Suwako and Sukuna are so pretty!
Mai also look awesome.
Miko made me laugh.
Mokou is pretty good idea.
I was hoping for Yuuka to be in her second classic design, but "sleeping terror" is fine by me.
Murasa is awesome!
Tenshi is just... well...
Sekibanki wtf.
Yuyuko is very pretty.

Best patch ever.

I want my miko suika and princess wriggle (if i ever wanted to use her).
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on March 29, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
I'm still on 1.13.

What did 1.20 and 1.30 do in quick summary?

Also I download the patches from the main site and get 'udm cannot open file' error.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on March 30, 2015, 05:16:04 AM
I'm still on 1.13.

What did 1.20 and 1.30 do in quick summary?

Also I download the patches from the main site and get 'udm cannot open file' error.
1.20 was only bug fixes I think, while 1.30 ads - as mentioned before - costumes. In right bottom corner of the human village there is a house that was inaccessible in previous versions.
Other things are just small fixes, like changing price of something.

Anyway, I was continuing my old save with my second team (Yuuka, Kyouko, Murasa, Seija, Flandre, Tenshi). Right now I'm about to enter cave to Makai. Reimu gave me less problem than Marisa before her :V Sound puppet just wrecks her.

Ok now I'm confused. I started the game again, and at the bottom of the starter choose there was something named "Touhou300". Curious, I picked it. It doesn't have an overworld sprite, but in combat seems to be ExKeine. What is going on? Lil' portrait near my character shows human male trainer... seriously, wtf
Here (http://imgur.com/jHBIRVl,CiDL6PL,9bDAeMR,Isw4fbl#0) are some screens.

Other than that, I tried challanging Makai league with Yuuka team. Freakin' Marisa stole level up boosting item from poor Tenshi. I restarted the game, now I need to go through the cave again. Yeah, I know, I should save. Whatever.

Where are you, Lily White? I'm trying to catch her for 40 minutes! Where are you, Lily White? *sob, sob*
I'm now 100% sure you cannot catch Lily in the starting location. At least in version 1.30.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on April 01, 2015, 11:48:13 PM
Well I'm finally back to play this game again after being absent for quite a while (thanks ff14 *grr*), friend told me about the costume update and showed me the ones he has, loving Murasa's! How ever being on 1.13 I've tried to get the 1.20 update from the site, I sadly can't seem to download it as it fails each time it almost finishes. If anyone knows where I can get that patch I can get myself updated to 1.31.

From my guide notes Lilly White in on the Route to the magic forest, so the route left of the village with most of team (9) in the area, lilly is uncommon there I believe, that's where I got mine.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on April 02, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
;_;
I'm having some problems when I try to update from 1.10 to 1.20...
It just fails after a bit...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on April 02, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Yuuka team defeated Shinki~
Opposite to my last team, Shinki put a really good fight this time. Flan finally showed me, that she can be useful, Tenshi, Seija and Murasa did pretty good and Kyouko finished Shinki~ That was a stressfull fight, especially near the end. I used my last revive on Kyouko and she was one hit from being dead. But she still did it~
Funnily enough, Yuuka did not put much effort into this fight (I sacrificed her to revive Kyouko), while she was walking with me in the credits.
I'm taking a break from that team, as I still don't know too much about post-game.

I also have a question. What do status effects do? I know that burn and poison hurt you, pralyze makes you always move second, dark lowers your damage, but what others do? I mean weak and fear.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: monhan on April 03, 2015, 08:43:56 AM
I also have a question. What do status effects do? I know that burn and poison hurt you, pralyze makes you always move second, dark lowers your damage, but what others do? I mean weak and fear.

Poison/Deadly Poison (毒/猛毒) : Takes damage each turn. Poison-type dolls won't be inflicted, unless using certain abilities. Stacks with other status effects.

Burn/Major Burn (火傷/大火傷) : Takes damage each turn. Fire-type dolls won't be inflicted, unless using certain abilities. Stacks with other status effects.
Note : The stronger version of those two will deal more damage, however it will not stack with other ailments.

Paralysis (麻痺) : Severely decreases the doll's agility. Lightning-type dolls won't be inflicted, unless using certain abilities. Stacks with other status effects.

Blind (暗闇) : Severely decreases the doll's focused shot attack power. Stacks with other status effects.

Fear (恐怖) : Severely decreases the doll's spread shot attack power. Stacks with other status effects.
Note: There are 2 types of attacks in the game, focused(集弾) and spread(散弾), each with their own attack and defense stats. Focused-type attacks are colored red and Spread-type attacks are colored blue.

Weak (衰弱) : Cannot recover health from healing skills.  Stacks with other status effects.
Note: Buffed in ver.1.30. Any healing, regenerative abilities or equipment effects are nullified. Even the skill "Continue(コンティニュー)" won't work.

Stop (停止) : Cannot act, but there are certain skills that are still usable. Disappears after 2-4 turns. Will not stack with other status effects.

By the way, your previous problem with "Touhou300", that is a glitch/bug in the game. The developers suggest player not to pick that as the starting doll since it may cause unknown effects to the game.


Well I'm finally back to play this game again after being absent for quite a while (thanks ff14 *grr*), friend told me about the costume update and showed me the ones he has, loving Murasa's! How ever being on 1.13 I've tried to get the 1.20 update from the site, I sadly can't seem to download it as it fails each time it almost finishes. If anyone knows where I can get that patch I can get myself updated to 1.31.

From my guide notes Lilly White in on the Route to the magic forest, so the route left of the village with most of team ⑨ in the area, lilly is uncommon there I believe, that's where I got mine.
Hmm, though it's best to get the patches from their websites, I guess this won't hurt.
http://www.mediafire.com/?bthgprpn9m05u
Still trying to upload the 1.10 to 1.20 patch, so wait for a while.
Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/download/y2xr13aaoc9b6km/演舞製品版パッチ1.10以降→1.20.zip

There's a lot of Lily White on Road 6, but that would already be too far  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on April 03, 2015, 10:33:12 AM
Poison/Deadly Poison (毒/猛毒) : Takes damage each turn. Poison-type dolls won't be inflicted, unless using certain abilities. Stacks with other status effects.

Burn/Major Burn (火傷/大火傷) : Takes damage each turn. Fire-type dolls won't be inflicted, unless using certain abilities. Stacks with other status effects.
Note : The stronger version of those two will deal more damage, however it will not stack with other ailments.

Paralysis (麻痺) : Severely decreases the doll's agility. Lightning-type dolls won't be inflicted, unless using certain abilities. Stacks with other status effects.

Blind (暗闇) : Severely decreases the doll's focused shot attack power. Stacks with other status effects.

Fear (恐怖) : Severely decreases the doll's spread shot attack power. Stacks with other status effects.
Note: There are 2 types of attacks in the game, focused(集弾) and spread(散弾), each with their own attack and defense stats. Focused-type attacks are colored red and Spread-type attacks are colored blue.

Weak (衰弱) : Cannot recover health from healing skills.  Stacks with other status effects.
Note: Buffed in ver.1.30. Any healing, regenerative abilities or equipment effects are nullified. Even the skill "Continue(コンティニュー)" won't work.

Stop (停止) : Cannot act, but there are certain skills that are still usable. Disappears after 2-4 turns. Will not stack with other status effects.

By the way, your previous problem with "Touhou300", that is a glitch/bug in the game. The developers suggest player not to pick that as the starting doll since it may cause unknown effects to the game.
Ah, thank you! That helps a lot.

So it seems Toho300 is some sort of MissingNo. of this game.

I don't know why I didn't use any warrior type puppet before. They wreck trainers (unless they have puppet with resistance, of course) and random encounters. Go, Ichirin!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on April 03, 2015, 05:21:52 PM

Hmm, though it's best to get the patches from their websites, I guess this won't hurt.
http://www.mediafire.com/?bthgprpn9m05u
Still trying to upload the 1.10 to 1.20 patch, so wait for a while.
Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/download/y2xr13aaoc9b6km/演舞製品版パッチ1.10以降→1.20.zip

There's a lot of Lily White on Road 6, but that would already be too far  :V

Thank you very much, I did try through their website but I was able to get the 1.20 to 1.31 patch but the 1.10 to 1.20 patch fails each time I almost finish the download.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on April 03, 2015, 06:53:14 PM
I don't know why I didn't use any warrior type puppet before. They wreck trainers (unless they have puppet with resistance, of course) and random encounters. Go, Ichirin!
Ichirin felt so OP at the first part of the game. Then, I switched the OPness to Mai in my first run.

I got the patch to work. Just needed to reinstall.
I literally died when I saw this:
Tenshi:
(http://puu.sh/h0ui3/ef6c94c7c4.png)
Yorihime:
(http://puu.sh/h0usD/2935514130.png)
Hatate:
(http://puu.sh/h0utD/e5838b3e95.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on April 04, 2015, 02:50:26 AM
A lot of these new costumes look great! Some not so much for myself (Parsee for example, I understand what they did... but I don't like how it looks on her.) I did notice it says something 1 for the name, I would assume that there are more to come.

(Since Mai was mentioned her costume with the hood looks great!)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on April 04, 2015, 03:49:53 AM
I'm currently uploading an album with lots of puppet palettes on it and more are on the way. I'll link the album once it finishes uploading.
EDIT:http://imgur.com/a/r4Xuk#0 (http://imgur.com/a/r4Xuk#0)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on April 04, 2015, 09:03:56 AM
I'm currently uploading an album with lots of puppet palettes on it and more are on the way. I'll link the album once it finishes uploading.
EDIT:http://imgur.com/a/r4Xuk#0 (http://imgur.com/a/r4Xuk#0)
Where is Miko the fabulous owl?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: monhan on April 04, 2015, 09:42:55 AM
Has anyone managed to make an all S-rank doll?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: utsuho on April 04, 2015, 11:00:01 AM
Has anyone managed to make an all S-rank doll?
Yeah it's pretty easy to make pure S-rank dolls, there's a reincarnation guide here http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=374.0
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on April 04, 2015, 11:56:55 AM
I just fought Seiga. Best battle in the game lol

She had 6 Power Yoshika's. Every one of them used suicide move.

Which mean I can use reincarnation now! Yay! If only I knew what I can use it to...

Ok, I used it to buff Sariel. Effect is quite good, I think:

(http://i.imgur.com/IBKavPH.png)

Not as good as S-rank only, but good enough for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on April 04, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
Where is Miko the fabulous owl?
There's a limit of 150 images. And I still don't have all images... But I will upload them soon!
Okay! Here they are!
http://imgur.com/a/r1bEg (http://imgur.com/a/r1bEg)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Shadnick on April 07, 2015, 01:10:17 AM
After more than 170 hours of game, I got 9999999 at money , and I was go to the bamboo forest to talk Tewi and make her request.
Ducking Tewi, she trick me again DX
Anyway. Somebody knows about the official tournament that they going to make at this month?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on April 07, 2015, 12:06:52 PM
After more than 170 hours of game, I got 9999999 at money , and I was go to the bamboo forest to talk Tewi and make her request.
Ducking Tewi, she trick me again DX
Anyway. Somebody knows about the official tournament that they going to make at this month?

I figured that Tewi's request would be 1 above the max amount of money we could get, about the tournament, only know there's some irc channel, 63 rule and something about hamachi. Not going to enter since my team probably sucks vs other players. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: monhan on April 07, 2015, 01:03:20 PM
The details can be seen here
http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/43472918.html

Important things to remember:
Date is April 18th 18:45(Japan time, +9 GMT)
There are 63 basic rules, details not yet unveiled.
You have full freedom to customize your party between each match.
If the match got interrupted by connection problem, then you can have a rematch. But if it happens a second time, the results will be determined from the recorded replays.
As such, replays must be enabled by both contenders.

Here are the requirements to participate in this tournament. Not fulfilling it beforehand will result in disqualification:
Updated the game to the latest version, if there are any updates, before April 17th 19:00.
Enabled replay save
Have an account in IRC channel, or use IRC client. By the way, channel is #幻想人形演舞
Can use Hamachi (only if you can't use IRC)


Yeah it's pretty easy to make pure S-rank dolls, there's a reincarnation guide here http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=374.0
I'm sorry for not responding earlier. Thank you for the tips.
I've just finished the main game a few days ago, and just tried my hands on reincarnation by looking at the guide in the JP wiki, but this certainly could help.
Even though it was just a blind run, getting 5 As and 1 S isn't so bad.
Now I've reincarnated half of my team to full S ranks.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Fishin on April 09, 2015, 05:55:48 AM
How's the difficulty?  About on par with a regular Pokemon game, or harder?

Letting you choose your starter from pretty much anything is almost a little cruel, I'm still trying to decide between Utsuho or Miko but I keep bouncing around and wondering if I'd have more fun with another one instead.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yookie on April 09, 2015, 09:21:57 AM
Difficulty seems similar to the normal Pokemon games until you get to the end of the story where you're a little underleveled if you didn't do extra grinding (at least it was like this for me) and the final fights mostly consist of your opponent having a hyper offensive super-fast team that tears you to shreds without you being able to retaliate :v

About your starter dilemma: You could pick
Utsuho
since you get
Miko   
relatively early and have them both this way.
                                                                                                                                                 
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Fishin on April 10, 2015, 06:53:25 AM
Ended up grabbing Miko after I made that, should have looked at the list on the first page earlier I guess. 

This is significantly harder than Pokemon though, it's like Red/Blue if there was a bunch of trainers on the first route with one that has two lv6 Pokemon at the end and then the one optional rival battle on route 24 or w/e was made mandatory before you could enter Viridian Forest.  Though I do like how there doesn't seem to be any real penalty for losing.  Most of the systems seem like nice minor improvements over Pokemon, too (the option to switch between abilities is great, I know that'll save me some headaches in the future).
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: DarkAtma on April 13, 2015, 02:45:44 PM
Where is the 1.18 or 1.19 patch? (The ones that work with the English translation

I have found the-1.10  , 1.20, 1.31 and 2.02 but not the ones specified that work with the english patch
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on April 13, 2015, 03:37:16 PM
Where is the 1.18 or 1.19 patch? (The ones that work with the English translation

I have found the-1.10  , 1.20, 1.31 and 2.02 but not the ones specified that work with the english patch

On Focas Lens' website there's only 1.10 to 1.20 patch. I still have 1.10 to 1.19 patch though, so I can upload it for you (and other people who want english patch too).

Here it is. (http://www.mediafire.com/download/xo6t14d2y7ayo4z/%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E%E8%A3%BD%E5%93%81%E7%89%88%E3%83%91%E3%83%83%E3%83%811.10%E4%BB%A5%E9%99%8D%E2%86%921.19.zip)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: DarkAtma on April 13, 2015, 03:50:29 PM
So I must update from 1.00->1.10, 1.10->1.19 correct?

I hope other updates Arent THAT BIG like to make me play on japanese, but it cant be that bad i guess, i just have to look at the move power/accuracy and i guess i can win 70% of the time playing blind

The official site takes me here where i found the patches but not the 1.19 one

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=1ce491c7c7bffdbd&id=1CE491C7C7BFFDBD!2998
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on April 13, 2015, 04:32:08 PM
So I must update from 1.00->1.10, 1.10->1.19 correct?

I hope other updates Arent THAT BIG like to make me play on japanese, but it cant be that bad i guess, i just have to look at the move power/accuracy and i guess i can win 70% of the time playing blind

The official site takes me here where i found the patches but not the 1.19 one

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=1ce491c7c7bffdbd&id=1CE491C7C7BFFDBD!2998
Yes.

I don't think that other than costumes (which is just a cosmetic change) and small bugfixes there where any big game-changing fixes.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: DarkAtma on April 13, 2015, 05:54:35 PM
Okay started with Meiling (didnt knew you could start with anybody, i guess legendaries are excluded)

How do i fix the gibberish numbers? i cant see any number, just....odd messed text,I guess red moves are physical and blue are magical?

It looks like this
EDIT:Nevermind managed to fix it by setting region to japanese

Sweet i can distribute my EV Freely,change ability freely, and choose if i want to learn moves or not
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Fishin on April 22, 2015, 01:24:05 AM
Oh nuts, I didn't actually realize that Style Changes were permanent.  Didn't actually do anything I want to take back, luckily, but I was thinking I'd be able to switch between Miko's forms, both of which look to be excellent in pretty different ways (great attack and good speed with Speed Boost, or wtfhigh attack and great speed with Defeatist).

This'll also make it a bit harder to pick forms for Futo and Sanae considering I was originally planning on using both and I already have a Fire type planned, I guess I'll probably ditch one.

Sweet i can distribute my EV Freely,change ability freely, and choose if i want to learn moves or not

Yeah, there are a lot of nice little improvements on the default Pokemon formula like that.  One of the many benefits of using their own engine instead of a ROM hack, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: JotaDe on May 11, 2015, 09:03:45 AM
Hi there.

I would really want to play a new  Touhoumon, but I dont want it to be in Japanese, cause I dont understand it -.- Can anyone tell me how is the English translation of this game going?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on May 11, 2015, 09:52:17 PM
Hi there.

I would really want to play a new  Touhoumon, but I dont want it to be in Japanese, cause I dont understand it -.- Can anyone tell me how is the English translation of this game going?
You can check updates for English patch here:
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=354.0

NEWS!!
They'll be releasing the soundtrack of the game!!
(http://projectshion.xxxxxxxx.jp/ATG1/img/jake.png)
http://projectshion.xxxxxxxx.jp/ATG1/
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on May 12, 2015, 05:45:09 AM
NEWS!!
They'll be releasing the soundtrack of the game!!
(http://projectshion.xxxxxxxx.jp/ATG1/img/jake.png)
http://projectshion.xxxxxxxx.jp/ATG1/

That's cool! Yuuka's theme~
My brother asked me if there will be a DLC adding ULiL and LoLK characters.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on May 13, 2015, 03:55:22 AM
That's cool! Yuuka's theme~
My brother asked me if there will be a DLC adding ULiL and LoLK characters.
I don't know. But here's hoping Usami!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Tomion on May 13, 2015, 04:51:10 AM
Alt. Custome for Gangsta Byakuren plz?

Also, I think my D sukuna has destroyed every P. Suika in the game. Funny every time.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: utsuho on May 13, 2015, 09:46:51 AM
With playism releasing touhou fangames now, what are the chances of them picking this up.
Title: Re: Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Ryason55 on May 13, 2015, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: KogasaxNue
NEWS!!
They'll be releasing the soundtrack of the game!!
They released the soundtrack at Reitaisai a few days ago. It'll appear in online stores later, though.


In addition to the CD, they were also selling can badges of all 118 puppets in the game:
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=50230910

You didn't really have a choice of which ones you got though. You could get a random one (starter) for 100 Yen, 6 random ones (full team) for 500 Yen... or ALL of them (gotta catch 'em all!) for 10000 Yen. This was probably so that people couldn't just pick favourites and leave behind the least popular characters.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on May 14, 2015, 06:56:13 AM
That's cool! Yuuka's theme~
My brother asked me if there will be a DLC adding ULiL and LoLK characters.

It's possible, looking at the Icon file which has all the menu sprites for puppets it has a huge amount of space not used, updating that and adding in the few new battle sprites don't seem like a hard thing to do later on.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Tomion on May 14, 2015, 07:07:08 AM
Hopefully they'll update with new characters.

On another note - I got a decent team but still didn't netplay once :< possibly cuz I couldn't figure it out.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MQJinx on May 16, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
I'm trying to figure out what to do to initiate a network battle, however I get this error message.
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/88f06b2bb5ed8f66892fcf7b4dbe7d54/tumblr_nof6x4DrlP1s9ezb9o1_1280.png)

Anyone have any idea how to solve this issue?

EDIT: I put in my puppets and I get this error message in:
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/a7553190b8dcb306f3c25d8e4ee665fc/tumblr_nofb3p7Hiw1s9ezb9o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Mew seeker on May 16, 2015, 07:24:52 PM
First one is something like :
"63 basic rule :
there is not enough dolls!"

Second one is  something like :
"63 basic rule :
there is a doll (s?) with a skill that can't be used!"

You evil gamesharker!  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MQJinx on May 17, 2015, 02:01:05 AM
Well I made my team be accepted, and now I'm getting these messages:

When I click on the first option below the team this message pops up:
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/7f19531a848cdfade52c8ef7a00d05dc/tumblr_noh1f0jlPu1s9ezb9o1_500.png)

When I click on the option directly above the BGM selection this message pops up:
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/e4a69afb3a6ace35964589feebc6b818/tumblr_noh1f0jlPu1s9ezb9o2_500.png)

Where do I go from here?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Mew seeker on May 17, 2015, 04:53:39 PM
Let's see... it's something like :
"Port 10800 is being on stand by" or something like that?

And then :

"There is no reply!"
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: HotGarbage on May 17, 2015, 11:31:19 PM
Hi there.

I would really want to play a new  Touhoumon, but I dont want it to be in Japanese, cause I dont understand it -.- Can anyone tell me how is the English translation of this game going?
As of two weeks ago 280 out of 400 trainers were translated, which I believe is the primary hurdle now? It'll come eventually. I've got endless respect for those doing this though- it's no joke even without hex editing.

NEWS!!
They'll be releasing the soundtrack of the game!!
(http://projectshion.xxxxxxxx.jp/ATG1/img/jake.png)
http://projectshion.xxxxxxxx.jp/ATG1/
Nice! The OST of this game really is ace.

Also I love Patchy's alternate
(http://i.imgur.com/DngnVpw.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MQJinx on May 19, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/5bcc053478dcd5161347cb6c9407daf0/tumblr_nolw6c9JZz1s9ezb9o1_540.png)
Anyone have any idea what this means? I received this message when trying to battle a random by copying the IP address.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Fishin on May 20, 2015, 08:21:48 AM
Says "server could not be found".
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 12:01:58 AM
So I'm a little unclear on how playable the game is in English right now. If I buy it, to what degree will I be able to enjoy it? Is there at least a basic gameplay translation patch that I can get my hands on? I keep seeing references to one, but I can't seem to actually find one that works with any update patch that's still available.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Phasm on June 22, 2015, 01:20:53 AM
The translation is finished. Here you go ^~^

http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?board=15.0

Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 01:30:08 AM
Oh cool. I guess I just confused myself digging through old threads. I'll buy it now then.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: HotGarbage on June 24, 2015, 04:54:56 PM
The translation is finished. Here you go ^~^

http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?board=15.0

It's not completely done. The thread you posted details the project's current state. Of course this is quite a step forward.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: commandercool on July 03, 2015, 07:51:27 PM
Loving the game so far. It was obviously made by Pokemon fans, they address basically every major complaint longtime players of the franchise tend to have. I wish NPCs would switch out of bad matchups, but they're still a million times smarter than in any of the Nintendo games, so good enough.

I just got Rock Smash (I loooooove that HMs are finally items, I could never figure out why that concept was scrapped). I just need to find Satori to finish my team, so far I've got Keine, Mokou, Patchouli, Nitori, and Yamame, and Mamizou as filler until Satori pops up.

Is there a map item somewhere that I missed somehow? The lack of a map is kind of aggravating given how relatively complex the town layout is. If I overlooked it I should go back and find it.

It's not completely done. The thread you posted details the project's current state. Of course this is quite a step forward.

Yeah, it's completely playable but it's not done. Weirdly it's mostly battle text that remains untranslated, which makes decoding the new type chart a lot trickier than it should be.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on August 18, 2015, 12:40:34 AM
Don't know if any of you knew this but...
http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/sidestory.html (http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/sidestory.html)
There's a sidestory on the works... ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on October 03, 2015, 04:00:38 AM
Hello everyone been a while since I was last on here. About that sidestory thing, it seems to be about Yuki and Mai and is a free game you can download on the site. It's a bit short but free is free heh.

In other news dispite there being an english patch for the game window 10 has decided it hates everything about touhou and ruins everything, so I still am working on the Japanese version. And as a bit of an update a few screen shots have popped up showing new battles, I believe a new area and... Sumireko as well, which means her and the cast of LoLK are getting a update for the game woo! Finally can get my Doremy, Hecetia and Sugume!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on October 04, 2015, 08:05:49 AM
In other news dispite there being an english patch for the game window 10 has decided it hates everything about touhou and ruins everything, so I still am working on the Japanese version. And as a bit of an update a few screen shots have popped up showing new battles, I believe a new area and... Sumireko as well, which means her and the cast of LoLK are getting a update for the game woo! Finally can get my Doremy, Hecetia and Sugume!
Sumireko?! Yes yes yes! It's time to do Touhoumon again!
I hope she and Junko don't appear too late in the game!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Tsukiyomi on October 17, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
Oh man my body and wallet is so ready for some new Touhoumon goodness. Windows 10 issues will NOT keep me from enjoying it.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on October 18, 2015, 02:24:54 PM
I can't fully confirm but I believe it will be a free patch to update the game with some endgame content and add characters. But like I said can't fully confirm it.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Ryin on November 06, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
Is there a compiled list of all puppet locations? I quickly went through the entire thread and only found people's individual posts.
I found this (http://wikiwiki.jp/tensi-gj-ms/?%BF%CD%B7%C1%CA%AC%C9%DB%C9%BD-%BE%EC%BD%EA%CA%CC), though.
I also requested an account in the wiki to make a page with that information.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Derxwna Kapsyla on November 16, 2015, 09:32:57 AM
I didn't even realize this thread was here but uh, I think when we finish the translation we'll make a separate, dedicated thread for it. We're still working on it, though translating is done we're in the middle of editing and polishing everything, Our main exe rigger is backloaded with school and i'm extremely depressed and unmotivated too lazy to work in their place right now, not to mention my personal save file is being used to chronicle the wiki.

We're trying to get a release out before the newest build coming at C89, and that's really all I can say on that front.

As for the questions I've seen (just from reading the last page), our sources have reported the following information about the C89 build.

Some of these confirmed additions to the C89 build affect the translation project on a near fundamental level, but we will continue to try our hardest in delivering a quality product!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on November 16, 2015, 01:44:15 PM
  • Puppets will now follow you around, probably based on whos leading in your party
Oh my God that is going to be so adorable I can't wait

Sumireko hype
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on November 22, 2015, 07:49:27 PM
Love how much better this game is then pokemon mechanically.  Liking what changes I see from the list. Any update to patch the translation for Windows 10?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Ryin on November 23, 2015, 03:54:37 PM
Love how much better this game is then pokemon mechanically. 
I kept saying "This is like Pokemon, but better." when I played the game. The PP system is wonderful, breeding is much more pleasant to do. I didn't think enough about meta but I think type weakness/strength is better handled in this game?
Also: I hope Kokoro's thing is more than a Battle Tower. If they put a Battle Frontier in the game I'll be eternally happy.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: commandercool on November 23, 2015, 04:40:42 PM
The type chart is actually the one major part of this game that I think is inferior to Pokemon.

All types have more or less the same number of weaknesses and resistances in Touhoumon, with an occasional immunity thrown in. While that is more balanced in the strictest sense, balance is not necessarily a good thing in that case.

In Pokemon there are "offensive" types (fire, ice) with a lot of weaknesses or common weaknesses but that are super effective against a lot of things, "defensive" types (steel, poison) with a lot of resistances and immunities but that aren't super effective against much, and a lot of middle ground or quirky types like dark or electric with specific roles. What that basically means is that sweeping and walling can lean more heavily on typing because a Pokemon with a good defensive typing will have lots of resistances and vice versa.

In Touhoumon everything has just a few resistances and much more unreliable coverage, which means a lot of neutral hits. That makes battles more homogeneous. Most things die in 2-3 hits in most situations. The game seems to centralize setup sweepers and bulky attackers because walling and fragile sweepers can't easily deal with the overly-balanced type chart. It's certainly not a game-breaking problem, and depending on your preference you might not even consider it a problem at all, but I didn't care for it myself.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Ryin on November 23, 2015, 05:22:31 PM
I agree that the type chart by itself is more "balanced" in the sense it's bland. But what I find interesting about how they handled type matchups is how defensive style puppets usually have a type combination to give them fewer weaknesses, while offensive style puppets have more coverage and weaknesses.

But, like I said, I didn't think or read enough about the meta to actually know how things play out. I like the sound of a slower meta centralized over setup weepers and bulky puppets rather than what Pokemon currently is, though. I'm kind of burnt out on competitive Pokemon, and Pokemon in general.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Derxwna Kapsyla on November 26, 2015, 06:46:34 PM
happy turkey day folks
have a fun link
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19088.0.html
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 02, 2015, 11:07:22 PM
Here something some of you may have seen.
https://twitter.com/gn_gekidan/status/670216637883158529 (https://twitter.com/gn_gekidan/status/670216637883158529)
A twitter post showing a Sagume puppet :D
We're so close to get the expansion!!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yuuhi on December 03, 2015, 11:12:35 PM
With a new patch coming, I still have to play the 1.34 version for quite a while I think (With translation progress being halted and all because of the inc patch)

It doesn't stop me from enjoying the game though and I'm having fun streaming it as well (Only started a while ago, so no endgame on my part and running mostly blind). There's only one struggle: Finding good builds for my team and specifically when it comes to reinforcing stats. I've got a few of my puppets figured out, but there's still others that I have second guesses with.

So here's my team atm with the stat reinforcements that I'm planning, starting with the 3 I've already finished building:


These 2 were easy enough for me to make a build for. But for the other ones I'm still trying to find the right build. I haven't allocated any stats on them yet except for one and I might need a few suggestions before I finalize them:


I'll always have Flan, Chen and Akyuu (One of the two, interchanging when I feel like it) in my team no matter what so I needed them to be perfect. The other 3 puppets will be situational and will be whatever have good IV stats until I can use Reincarnation. So it's mainly my Defense Akyuu I'm pondering about. I'm also going to try to catch a good Alice, Remilia, Marisa, Nitori and Youmu and put them in my team. I might need some help for their builds too. I don't want to make any mistakes since you can't go back on your decisions until Reincarnation, so any suggestions would be welcome.

Also, I want to know if going for Speed Flandre instead of Power is a good idea or not. I'm leaving her on Normal for now until I know for sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Third Eye Lem on December 05, 2015, 08:34:52 PM
Here something some of you may have seen.
https://twitter.com/gn_gekidan/status/670216637883158529 (https://twitter.com/gn_gekidan/status/670216637883158529)
A twitter post showing a Sagume puppet :D
We're so close to get the expansion!!
Very close, in fact. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1449323111)

EDIT: Unrelated but dammit Rika why is your sprite so adorable ;u;
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 13, 2015, 11:26:06 AM
Reincarnation is hard

I wonder if anyone knows the cheat engine address for rainbow stone thing because i cant seem to find it kappa
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on December 13, 2015, 11:31:34 AM
I wonder if anyone knows the cheat engine address for rainbow stone thing because i cant seem to find it kappa

It's not a matter of finding it, you get it from Kasen after doing her sidequest. She asks you to collect 4 items throughout the world.

1) Under the cherry tree in Muenzuka
2) Beat Suwako in the middle of Lake Moriya and then talk to all the frogs in the frog pond (near Kasen's house) until you get it
3) In the tunnel beneath the Myourenji graveyard
4) Beat Shinmyoumaru in Reimu's bedroom and then check the well behind the shrine
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 13, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
It's not a matter of finding it, you get it from Kasen after doing her sidequest. She asks you to collect 4 items throughout the world.

1) Under the cherry tree in Muenzuka
2) Beat Suwako in the middle of Lake Moriya and then talk to all the frogs in the frog pond (near Kasen's house) until you get it
3) In the tunnel beneath the Myourenji graveyard
4) Beat Shinmyoumaru in Reimu's bedroom and then check the well behind the shrine

Find as in the code address because you only get 1 kek
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on December 13, 2015, 12:08:31 PM
Oh, I misread that. But why would you need more than 1 anyway? It doesn't get used up or anything.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 13, 2015, 01:17:36 PM
Oh, I misread that. But why would you need more than 1 anyway? It doesn't get used up or anything.

gotta max out all muh items 255 kappa
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ZXNova on December 15, 2015, 06:22:52 AM
The quest is really easy to do, and once you get the four prerequisite items, you could just save in front of Kasen, get the item, go back, check the cheat engine, and rinse and repeat and then you can max out your rainbow stones to 255. Though, I don't see why you would because you'll only ever need is 1.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 15, 2015, 08:08:52 PM
Very close, in fact. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1449323111)
Extremely close, in fact. :D
(http://puu.sh/lWMHd/ae99fc778d.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLpy/6994978c90.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLEV/8ae83fd6ce.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLP3/51de1f3092.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLTp/4fa8a8efd7.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWMjo/01891d8b44.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWMzu/32bb9dc75d.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWMDl/07bf60ad2e.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Third Eye Lem on December 19, 2015, 04:45:44 AM
Extremely close, in fact. :D
Egads those images look adorable :3c

You know what's NOT adorable though? Climbing up Youkai Mountain, getting your butt handed to you by Sanae, then trying to look up her Puppets on the wiki...Only to find out the site is down.

...
Oh. There's a redirect link on the forums. SUCCESS!

Still doesn't make it any less painful though...I need to grind up my Futo Puppet to stand a chance. :/
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: ditt93 on December 19, 2015, 12:53:49 PM
A trial version is released for download. :]
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Monothemeerp on December 19, 2015, 05:39:32 PM
Extremely close, in fact. :D
(http://puu.sh/lWMHd/ae99fc778d.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLpy/6994978c90.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLEV/8ae83fd6ce.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLP3/51de1f3092.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWLTp/4fa8a8efd7.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWMjo/01891d8b44.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWMzu/32bb9dc75d.png)
(http://puu.sh/lWMDl/07bf60ad2e.png)
Wait where'd you get those from

(And in general where did everyone get the TPDP portraits from?)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 19, 2015, 06:06:29 PM
checked hemo's senpai pixiv, every single art is over there. :3

EDIT: Also trying the demo right now, Ringo feels kinda smaller than many of the puppets...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on December 20, 2015, 05:46:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/v3tFZJe.png)

Look at her.
Look at her and tell me she's not the cutest creature in the world.
JUST LOOK AT HER.

Sumimi <3
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: RegalStar on December 21, 2015, 03:28:59 AM
This game needs level difference balanced experience gain. Badly.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Monothemeerp on December 21, 2015, 06:16:59 AM
This game needs level difference balanced experience gain. Badly.
At some point Cirno was like, 20 levels ahead of everyone so I just kept her in the lead cuz why the hell not and she got Lv. 100 in the one battle right before
Makai
. Was pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on December 21, 2015, 06:56:06 AM
Yup, you can pretty much solo the game with your starter. I even defeated the last boss with Mai (my first starter) only, and no other puppet even saw the fight.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Monothemeerp on December 21, 2015, 05:03:26 PM
Funnily enough Cirno was the last puppet I caught and my starter ended up being my worst one, pfft.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on December 22, 2015, 11:28:36 AM
Cost determines how much experience you need to level up. An 80 cost puppet (fairies and stage 1 bosses and whatnot) will level up more than twice as fast as a 120 cost puppet (some final bosses or anyone implied to be exceptionally strong). For the purposes of just clearing the story, level matters way more than base stats, so the 120 cost ones are just kind of worse, in that sense.

Cirno is 80, and Mai is 90, so they make the game significantly easier than if you had picked, say, Suika.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Colticide on December 22, 2015, 01:55:22 PM
Uggh I need to see if the patch will work for windows 10 yet. Been holding off on playing.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on December 22, 2015, 06:53:35 PM
Uggh I need to see if the patch will work for windows 10 yet. Been holding off on playing.
It does! I have Win 10.

(http://i.imgur.com/ii8qqxq.png)

When you ran out of ideas for puppet names

EDIT: Holy Hakurei balls, Doremy is a dream type puppet?! That is so cool!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: RegalStar on December 23, 2015, 09:03:03 PM
Cost determines how much experience you need to level up. An 80 cost puppet (fairies and stage 1 bosses and whatnot) will level up more than twice as fast as a 120 cost puppet (some final bosses or anyone implied to be exceptionally strong). For the purposes of just clearing the story, level matters way more than base stats, so the 120 cost ones are just kind of worse, in that sense.

Cirno is 80, and Mai is 90, so they make the game significantly easier than if you had picked, say, Suika.

It appears that this is toned down in the append. 80 and 120 cost puppets now need 0.85x/1.15x the experience of 100 cost puppets instead of 0.7x/1.3x.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Third Eye Lem on December 26, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
The war against Speed Sanae continues...Turns out she has the Puppet equivalent of Scrappy, so I can't use a Wind-type to wall off her Jewelry Storm attack. She also has Wind Wave, but I have no idea what other attacks she has available. Does anyone have any advice on how to beat this little pest?

EDIT: Nevermind level 44 Speed Futo was enough to wreck her I am happy now :D
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: RegalStar on December 31, 2015, 04:44:12 PM
Full version of the append is up on melonbooks now.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2015, 05:20:44 PM
Does the translation patch still work for the append version? I'm assuming it probably doesn't, but if it does I'm gonna go buy that right away.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: RegalStar on December 31, 2015, 05:22:55 PM
I haven't actually tried it but I'm 100% sure that it doesn't.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on December 31, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
Changes in Puppet Locations so far are:

Route 1:
Lily White - Common
Hidden Puppet: Seija in a barrel.

Human Village:
Hidden Puppet: Kisume in a well.

Myouren Temple Cemetery:
Hidden Puppet: Kisume again in a well... again...

Route 3:
Raiko - Super Rare (?)
Hidden Puppet: Wriggle in a barrel.

Senkai:
Yoshika - Common
Tojiko - Common
Futo -  Less Common
Miko - Rare

Route 2:
Sumireko - Rare
Hidden Puppet: Rinnosuke in a pot next to Korindou.

Route 4:
Hidden Puppet: Nitori in a pot.

Cut Area of Bamboo Forest:
Seiran - Less Common
Ringo - Less Common
Gyokuto has been renamed to Reisen.

Dream World (only one chance of going):
Doremy - Common
Clownpiece - Common
Junko - Rare
Hecatia - Super Rare

Moon Capital (if someone spots you, you'll be sent back to the dream world, also if Doremy suddenly appears and says if your time is up):
Seiran - Common
Reisen - Common
Sagume - Rare (uses Whirlwind).
Ringo - Less Common
Toyohime - Super Rare
Yorihime - Super Rare (you guys won't believe how long it took me to find her... ;_;)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 01, 2016, 03:05:20 PM
Dream World (only one chance of going):
Doremy - Common
Clownpiece - Common
Junko - Rare
Hecatia - Super Rare

Moon Capital (if someone spots you, you'll be sent back to the dream world, also if Doremy suddenly appears and says if your time is up):
Seiran - Common
Reisen - Common
Sagume - Rare (uses Whirlwind).
Ringo - Less Common
Toyohime - Super Rare
Yorihime - Super Rare (you guys won't believe how long it took me to find her... ;_;)

So you can go to Dream World/Lunar Capital from Bamboo Forests Cut Area? And you get only one chance, so if you mess up, you can't get LoLK guys..? (Unless they appear somewhere later, of course) Hanging around Lunar Capital behind the back of lunarians sounds fun!
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2016, 07:41:27 PM
So you can go to Dream World/Lunar Capital from Bamboo Forests Cut Area? And you get only one chance, so if you mess up, you can't get LoLK guys..? (Unless they appear somewhere later, of course) Hanging around Lunar Capital behind the back of lunarians sounds fun!
Well... so far I've got one chance of going... There could be more... Or the cast could be found somewhere else...

Basically, if you leave the dream world. You can't come back.
Also, If you go to the Lunar Capital, you can steal their sake xD
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 01, 2016, 07:50:23 PM
You can buy more dream pills from Reisen. You'll also need them for something else in the post-game.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 01, 2016, 08:55:40 PM
You can buy more dream pills from Reisen. You'll also need them for something else in the post-game.
I see then. I'll edit my other post. Thanks for the info then!

Genbu Ravine Cave:
Seiga - ???

Kappa Village:
Hidden Puppet: Suika in a barrel (can't remember)

Tengu Village:
Hidden Puppet: 3 Hatates in 3 barrels.

Youkai Mountain 2nd Part Cave:
Sara - Rare

Mayohiga:
Hidden Puppet: Chen in a pot.

Road of Liminality (?):
Mystia - Common
Nitori - Rare
Luize - Common
Yuuka - Super Rare
Kokoro - Super Rare
Hidden Puppet: Suika and Yuugi in 2 barrels.

Sanzu River:
Komachi - Common
Eiki - Less Common
Mima - Rare
Rin - Super Rare

Post Game Areas:
Heaven:

Tenshi - Common
Iku - Common
Suika - Less Common
Ichirin - Rare
Raiko - Rare
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: jester147 on January 03, 2016, 09:02:18 AM
Hello there, I will help some postgame things if you have reached there but be wary of major spoilers.

Just ignore this post and the black box if you still not in the post game.

Kasen's item locations are the same, except one item in the mausoleum, it's not there. Rather, go to route 1 via Human Village, go out a little bit and you should see a breakable rock, break it, go inside, there may be some puppet battles, they're very underleveled if this is your first time there, go in, and you find Kana. Her dolls are all of the Poltergeists, forgot their levels and style. After you fought her, you get the item. There's a note near there, but don't know what it does.

Dream World, yes they use Dream Pills, yes they're buyable from Reisen in Human Village. There are two Dream Worlds. One in Bamboo Forest, and one in Sanzu River, the Sanzu River is just before Youkai Mountain, via Genbu Ravine, just left of the rest area. Bamboo Forest takes you to Lunar Capital, which I consider to be Safari Zone until there's further info about it. Sanzu River takes you to Hecatia's Hell, which have a tower, and you fight series of battles with Clownpiece as your final opponent. She has two Clownpieces, Junko, and Hecatia. After that she will come outside and can do something to you, that which I don't know.

In Human Village go to Akyuu's House, there's a maid waiting for you, talk to Akyuu, and you then trigger a rematch with all of the Team 9 Members. After that Medicine can be encountered in the Suzuran Field. There's also some Puppet Liberation Front remnants in Route 5 and Route 6, significance unknown.

Some questions:
where is Yuuka, and the Shining Needle Castle?
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 03, 2016, 05:05:32 PM
In Human Village go to Akyuu's House, there's a maid waiting for you, talk to Akyuu, and you then trigger a rematch with all of the Team 9 Members. After that Medicine can be encountered in the Suzuran Field. There's also some Puppet Liberation Front remnants in Route 5 and Route 6, significance unknown.

Some questions:
where is Yuuka, and the Shining Needle Castle?

First of all, in order to trigger the Team 9 rematch, you'll need to have cleared the Flandre quest and have gotten the book from the Lily doll in the Netherworld. Just to make this clearer.

As for your question, Aya can take you to the Shining Needle Castle from the Puppet center on the east side of youkai mountain, after you fight Medicine. Yuuka is involved in a later step of the process (after you get all the books, which lets you finally visit the place where you started behind the shrine). This is all part of a storyline leading up to the postgame final boss (which unlocks boxes 21-51, containing all your puppets imported from the first game). For reference, here's a list of the books:

1) Mamizou gives one to Kosuzu when introducing the books.
2) Miko boss fight
3) Talk to Koakuma any time after beating Remilia the first time
4) After beating the Three Fairies in Tengu Village
5) Prize from the tournament in the Old Capital of the Underworld
6) Lying around in Yuuka's house in the Sunflower Field
7) ??? (I don't remember, but I don't think it's missable)
8) Dropped by Lily doll in the Netherworld (after fighting Yuyuko)
9) Prize for clearing the Shining Needle Castel
10) Reward for gathering all 9 other books
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 03, 2016, 05:16:58 PM
Oh yeah, for reference, this game has a New Game+ feature. If you have a clear save file and try to start a new game, it will automatically put all the puppets currently in your party into your new game's box, reincarnated into level 5. And if your old starter isn't in your party and you choose a new one, you get them too in box 1 too, except not reincarnated (have fun going through the game with a level 100 starter). Your old boxes 21 through 51 are unlocked in the postgame (without the items they were carrying), but any earlier boxes will be deleted, except for your starter. The only way not to start a New Game+ is to delete your save file first.

Starting the New Game+ also unlock events that would otherwise only appear if you imported data from the first game (
since they involve you being an interdimensional traveler who's replaying through the same events in a different world
). I've never played without an imported save though, so I couldn't tell you what the precise differences are.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 03, 2016, 09:22:25 PM
More Post-Game Areas Encounters:

Netherworld:
Youmu - Common
Yuyuko - Common
Lyrica - Less Common
Lunasa - Less Common
Merlin - Less Common
Lily White - Rare

LLS Dream World:
Kurumi - Common
Elly - Common
Yuuka - Rare
Mugetsu - Rare
Gengetsu - Rare

Also, thanks for the info... Even at that time I already went to fight Clownpiece... But then I really didn't do the rest...

Goddamn, the Mugetsu and Gengetsu battle... Their Mugetsu kept recovering itself... It was so annoying, so I decided to change the weather soo my Junko could do more damage and finally kill it... Then, their Remilia was almost OHKO'd by my Junko, then they OHKO'd my Junko, but then I remembered, my Junko has the ability to hit back if a skill with 70 or more damage kills her... so then I KO'd Remilia with it... What a ridiculous way to win...

Also got a question is the wedding dress unlocked for other puppets than just your starter?? My Doremy seems to like me quite a lot but it's not unlocked... :/
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 03, 2016, 10:32:06 PM
Also got a question is the wedding dress unlocked for other puppets than just your starter?? My Doremy seems to like me quite a lot but it's not unlocked... :/

Yes. I don't know how long it takes, but it happens eventually.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: jester147 on January 04, 2016, 01:43:22 AM
Here's some matter regarding old save bonus.

Your puppets returned. Box 21 is your team and starter, while box 22 and beyond is what you have in your boxes. They're when the game detects the data, so say if you play Yume no Kakera and then you play the first one and save, it will not carry over, basic data reading. See what Clarste said about when they're available. That's actually new game+. What I'm trying to say is you get them in the postgame. Exact moment is
after you beat Mugetsu and Gengetsu in Mugenkan.

Also Yume no Kakera has altered the learnset for the puppets. Some puppets now can't learn the skills that you can learn in the old game. If you have the puppet with the old moves then the move is labeled ! in front of the name. They're still usable ingame, but you can't use them on netplay, because that would be illegal.

That's it for doll carryover.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yuuhi on January 04, 2016, 06:00:17 AM
I'll definitely be going for New Game+ once there's an English patch for it, to see if there's been any changes in the game. I haven't gone through post-game yet though, so I better get there and make sure that all the puppets I want for my team will have S stats and the right Emblem before I do so. It'll save me a lot of streaming time since I don't have to go through the pain of catching puppets with decent stats again. However, I will still only use the puppets once I'm at the point where I'm able to catch them in the wild. And from the trailer, we're finally able to interact with Flan? Can't wait for that (Just hoping that her character will be okay. I've seen quite a few games where she's just batshit sadistic and I hated that)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: jester147 on January 04, 2016, 06:32:34 AM
Well she's not sadistic, she just want to play :)
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 04, 2016, 02:18:58 PM
Goddamn, the Mugetsu and Gengetsu battle... Their Mugetsu kept recovering itself... It was so annoying, so I decided to change the weather soo my Junko could do more damage and finally kill it... Then, their Remilia was almost OHKO'd by my Junko, then they OHKO'd my Junko, but then I remembered, my Junko has the ability to hit back if a skill with 70 or more damage kills her... so then I KO'd Remilia with it... What a ridiculous way to win...
Haha, I had a very similiar situation with Cirno in first games post game. Her last pupped OHKO'd most of my team, but then I used my Mokou (who was lvl 17, btw) against it and she had same ability as Junko. So Cirno OHKO'd her - I used someone else - I revived Mokou - I chose Mokou - she died again - eventually, she KO'd Cirno.

I almost ran out of revives this way
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 04, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
Given that the shop in Kasen's forest doesn't sell the high end items anymore, does anyone know where to get those? The Black Choker, Rebellion Tome, etc.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 04, 2016, 06:16:20 PM
Ok I just gotten the expansion myself, but I'm stuck on how to install it without it screwing up my old data.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Koog on January 04, 2016, 08:14:01 PM
Going through some old areas I forgot to check:

Ice-side of Makai (?):
Yuki - Common
Mai - Common
Elis - Rare
YuugenMagan - Rare
Sariel - Rare
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Raikaria on January 04, 2016, 08:30:20 PM
Yup, you can pretty much solo the game with your starter. I even defeated the last boss with Mai (my first starter) only, and no other puppet even saw the fight.

In fact with the massive level spikes at bosses it's probobly the best course of action.

Especially Mokou. Because powerful fire moves when hardly anything in the game actually resists fire at that point [And isn't a starter] let alone is strong enough to take down a Mokou that's a massive level spike... at least they kept it base form despite being the level to style change.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: LunaWillow on January 05, 2016, 02:51:18 PM
In fact with the massive level spikes at bosses it's probobly the best course of action.

Especially Mokou. Because powerful fire moves when hardly anything in the game actually resists fire at that point [And isn't a starter] let alone is strong enough to take down a Mokou that's a massive level spike... at least they kept it base form despite being the level to style change.
Yeah, Mokou is a rather huge level spike from what came exacly before her. All of the bunnies in the Forest had puppets on levels 18-22 (Reisen and Tewi included!) and she suddenly throws 30 at you. In one playthrough when I chose a starter with higher cost who hadn't had a style change yet she utterly destroyed me.

I also noticed that some types may be generally favored from the others. For example, Reimu can be a huge obstacle if you don't have anything effective aganist her, but if you have a sound puppet she suddenly becomes a cake walk. There aren't that many bosses super effective aganist water, too. Or at least I don't remember there being. Maybe one or two puppets, but water generally doeasn't get too much resistance.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yuuhi on January 05, 2016, 04:07:08 PM
Funny thing with Mokou about my blind playthrough was that she was no problem at all for me once my starter Flandre was 30 and style changed to Speed. She just one-shotted every single one of Mokou's puppets and did the same thing with Marisa's puppets right after that. Remilia was more of a level spike for me than Mokou was, but funny enough my Assist Akyuu was all that I needed in the end to defeat her last puppet. So in the end, her Sakuya puppet was the hardest for me since my team was a bit susceptible to Steel and Illusion at that time.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Clarste on January 05, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
Sadly, Remilia's been greatly weakened in the expansion, capping out at level 33. Only three levels higher than Mokou! It seems they wanted to make the main storyline fairly speedbump-free.

The battle frontier in the post-postgame is pretty tough though, at least for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Yuuhi on January 05, 2016, 06:59:14 PM
For real? I didn't really mind that speed bump. If something needed to be more balanced, it's everything after that. By the time I managed to get to Utsuho, her puppets were severely underleveled compared to mine. As a matter of fact, before the encounter with Reimu and Marisa right before going to Makai, everything was underleveled.
Title: Does someone plays Touhou Puppet Dance Performance? I really wanna battle someon
Post by: gaboflandre on January 24, 2016, 02:24:12 AM
I just unlocked Online and i really want to test it out, does someone play Touhou Puppet Dance Performance, Please Reply me if you play it.
 :( :( :( :( :( :( :ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: jester147 on January 25, 2016, 06:52:04 AM
Why are you so desperate? Netplay isn't that hard. Just ask someone's IP and port and you can play. If you want to host, you need to port forward your router. If you can't port forward, use hamachi.

There's a group where you can play with a number of people, but forgot what it is...
Title: Re: Touhou Puppet Dance Performance (Touhoumon)
Post by: Marron on February 05, 2016, 11:11:17 PM
Ah that game. Well, I wanted to play it. I installed it, I patched the game, did all that thing correctly. The game worked perfectly at the time. I haven't had touched it for a while. Then I really wanted to play it today, but to really play the game. And no, 4 minutes later, my pc goes all black while I'm playing, the computer goes crazy, everything has crashed. And it always do that, now.
So I probably won't play that game. Maybe I'll watch some video on youtube.