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Title: Book recommendations
Post by: Phoenix_lostarr on January 03, 2012, 05:47:48 PM
So, I got a Kindle for Christmas. Yay me~

Can anyone recommend any truly great books to get for it?

Decided against a discworld one, because you can't have one without them all and they're like ?5 each, so about ?300 for all of them D:
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: theshirn on January 03, 2012, 05:55:37 PM
Undecide that right now. >:(

At the very least grab Guards! Guards! and Men at Arms.

What are you looking for?  It's hard to recommend anything if we don't know what you're interested in.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Phoenix_lostarr on January 03, 2012, 06:08:55 PM
I do quite like science fiction and science fantasy, and I have an interest in victorian literature (English A-level :V)

My objection to Discworld is more that I'll end up buying more and more of them, and money could become an issue...  :ohdear:

But yeah, I'll pick up a few.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: theshirn on January 03, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
Well, if you're interested in fantasy, you could do a lot worse than picking up some Brandon Sanderson.  Grab the Mistborn trilogy.  It is good stuff.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Phoenix_lostarr on January 03, 2012, 06:30:35 PM
Oh, I also quite enjoy classic novels. 

Not sure exactly how broad that genre is, or even if I haven't just made it up. :V
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on January 03, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
I highly recommend Douglas Adams; the first three Hitchhiker's Guide books at the least, and maybe the rest of the series or Dirk Gently if you're not sufficiently satisfied.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Reddyne on January 03, 2012, 07:36:58 PM
Michael Crichton's got a couple good sci fi novels in Andromeda Strain and Jurassic Park. I'd tack on a few Stephen King novels, but I dunno if you're into the more horror-related stuff. I'd also recommend a historical fiction series, but that might be too different.

Man, I'm really not nearly as much of a reader like I used to be.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on January 03, 2012, 08:52:18 PM
Shame you're not looking for literary fiction, because I have loads of recommendations where that's concerned.

As far as fantasy goes, I very highly recommend The Mists of Avalon. Re-tells the King Arthur legend from the point of view of the women, and is stunningly written.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2012, 08:57:45 PM
Re-tells the King Arthur legend from the point of view of the women, and is stunningly written.
You mean Fate/Stay Ni*shot*
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Phoenix_lostarr on January 03, 2012, 09:20:39 PM
Hey, I'll read pretty much anything someone thinks is good, so long as it's not too expensive.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Phlegeth on January 03, 2012, 09:38:55 PM
All three things I could think of off the top of my head have already been said: Hitchhiker's, Mists of Avalon, and Mistborn.  They're all really good.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Moerin on January 03, 2012, 10:22:32 PM
Toss that technological whatsit in the trash and buy a real book

Um, hmmm... Ack, the stuff I'd suggest is already long, uh, suggested... Seeing how you mentioned both classic literature and sci-fi, I would have recommended Frankenstein, but chances are you've probably already read it.  Um, hmmm...
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Hello Purvis on January 03, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
Brandon Sanderson

Okay. It's time to put up or shut up with this guy.

A good friend of mine read his Infinity Blade book, a friend with very good tastes in reading, usually. And this book turned out to be awful on many, many levels.  Establish that this guy is usually better than that, because Infinite Blade was horrible trash.

Onto things that are unambiguously good: Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell, by Suzanna Clark.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on January 03, 2012, 11:41:30 PM
Hey, I'll read pretty much anything someone thinks is good, so long as it's not too expensive.

Oh ho ho. In that case, off the top of my head  ...

The Diving Pool (http://www.amazon.com/Diving-Pool-Three-Novellas/dp/0312426836/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633772&sr=1-1), Yoko Ogawa

Cities of the Red Night (http://www.amazon.com/Cities-Red-Night-William-Burroughs/dp/0312278462/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633793&sr=1-1), The Place of Dead Roads (http://www.amazon.com/Place-Dead-Roads-Novel/dp/0312278659/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633817&sr=1-1), and The Western Lands (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Lands-William-S-Burroughs/dp/0140094563/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633840&sr=1-1), William S. Burroughs

The Things They Carried (http://www.amazon.com/Things-They-Carried-Tim-OBrien/dp/0767902890), Tim O' Brien

The God Of Small Things (http://www.amazon.com/God-Small-Things-Arundhati-Roy/dp/0060977493), Arundhati Roy

Two Girls Fat And Thin (http://www.amazon.com/Two-Girls-Thin-Mary-Gaitskill/dp/0684843129) and Bad Behavior (http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Behavior-Stories-Mary-Gaitskill/dp/1439148872/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633748&sr=1-1), Mary Gaitskill

Sputnik Sweetheart (http://www.amazon.com/Sputnik-Sweetheart-Haruki-Murakami/dp/0375726055/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633868&sr=1-1), After Dark (http://www.amazon.com/After-Vintage-International-Haruki-Murakami/dp/0307278735/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633887&sr=1-1), South of the Border, West of the Sun (http://www.amazon.com/South-Border-West-Sun-Novel/dp/0679767398/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633911&sr=1-1) and Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World (http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Boiled-Wonderland-End-World-International/dp/0679743464/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633934&sr=1-1), Haruki Murakami

The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea (http://www.amazon.com/Sailor-Who-Fell-Grace-Sea/dp/0679750150/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633952&sr=1-1), Yukio Mishima

One Hundred Years of Solitude (http://www.amazon.com/One-Hundred-Years-Solitude-P-S/dp/0060883286/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633972&sr=1-1), Gabriel Garcia Marquez

The Gangster We Are All Looking For (http://www.amazon.com/Gangster-We-Are-All-Looking/dp/0375700021/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325633993&sr=1-1), l? thi diem th?y

Midnight's Children (http://www.amazon.com/Midnights-Children-Novel-Salman-Rushdie/dp/0812976533/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325634012&sr=1-1), Salman Rushdie

The Garden State (http://www.amazon.com/Garden-State-Short-Stories/dp/0679725156/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325634044&sr=1-2), Gary Krist

The Bell Jar (http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Jar-Sylvia-Plath/dp/0061148512/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325634069&sr=1-1), Sylvia Plath
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: theshirn on January 03, 2012, 11:52:45 PM
Okay. It's time to put up or shut up with this guy.

A good friend of mine read his Infinity Blade book, a friend with very good tastes in reading, usually. And this book turned out to be awful on many, many levels.  Establish that this guy is usually better than that, because Infinite Blade was horrible trash.

Onto things that are unambiguously good: Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell, by Suzanna Clark.
I have not read this Infinity Blade novella nor do I know anything about it.  I will stand by my recommendation of Mistborn, as well as Elantris and others.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Reddyne on January 03, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
Suit yourself!

The entire Sharpe's series by Bernard Cornwell. It's about a soldier that starts as a lowly private at the start of the Napoleonic wars as he works his way up through the many battles that follows. I read like 10-12 books of the series.

Also by Stephen King, there's The Stand, It, The Shining, Carrie, and The Long Walk.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: I have no name on January 04, 2012, 12:05:15 AM
The Hunger Games.  Just got them, they're really good books.  I definitely suggest them.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Hello Purvis on January 04, 2012, 12:08:33 AM
I have not read this Infinity Blade novella nor do I know anything about it.  I will stand by my recommendation of Mistborn, as well as Elantris and others.

Why? What's good about it?

Are the characters believable or interesting? Is there any attempt to flesh them out beyond their roles? Is there a dearth of "lol penis" jokes? These are some of the many problems that Infinity blade had. Please establish this guy is worth reading.

Edit: In fact, have an article (http://www.brodzkybooks.com/mo-blades-mo-problems/) on why it's bad.  How much of this garbage happens in his earlier works?
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: theshirn on January 04, 2012, 12:55:01 AM
Why? What's good about it?

Are the characters believable or interesting? Is there any attempt to flesh them out beyond their roles? Is there a dearth of "lol penis" jokes? These are some of the many problems that Infinity blade had. Please establish this guy is worth reading.
The characters are fleshed out and solid, especially the core main characters.  A good chunk of backstory accompanies each one and it's borne out in the execution of the character.  The storyline deconstructs a good deal of modern accepted trends - examining a rebellion from within, as well as what comes after the good guys win (hint: more trouble).  I can't recall a penis joke off the top of my head, not one, and these usually stick in my memory because they irritate me.  Sanderson also does a superb job planning ahead - his works are internally consistent, his magic systems fully worked out ahead of time, and he drops just enough clever hints that at the moment things all come together there's a perfect moment of "OHHHHHHHH".

I will say that he has some slight problems with pacing (which seems to have gotten a little out of control since he assumed the mantle of the last Wheel of Time books and The Way of Kings) but I still find his stories to be interesting, his characters richly written and his worlds and magics explored.  He's not perfect, but no author is, and his books are genuinely enjoyable to read.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: andrewv42 on January 04, 2012, 01:24:32 AM
If you can get it, I recommend Middlemarch by George Elliot. It's an unending 600+ page thrill ride, from start to finish, that I can assure you.

ghehe
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Hello Purvis on January 04, 2012, 03:18:39 AM
The characters are fleshed out and solid, especially the core main characters.  A good chunk of backstory accompanies each one and it's borne out in the execution of the character.  The storyline deconstructs a good deal of modern accepted trends - examining a rebellion from within, as well as what comes after the good guys win (hint: more trouble).  I can't recall a penis joke off the top of my head, not one, and these usually stick in my memory because they irritate me.  Sanderson also does a superb job planning ahead - his works are internally consistent, his magic systems fully worked out ahead of time, and he drops just enough clever hints that at the moment things all come together there's a perfect moment of "OHHHHHHHH".

I will say that he has some slight problems with pacing (which seems to have gotten a little out of control since he assumed the mantle of the last Wheel of Time books and The Way of Kings) but I still find his stories to be interesting, his characters richly written and his worlds and magics explored.  He's not perfect, but no author is, and his books are genuinely enjoyable to read.

This is what I was looking for, thanks Shim!
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Mеа on January 04, 2012, 07:19:37 AM
I highly recommend Enders Game. Especially if you're interested in Sci-Fi, you'll appreciate it a whole lot more. If you liked it, then read Enders Shadow afterwards, it's basically the same story told from a different point of view. The main character of Enders Game is Ender, and Enders Shadow's is Bean, but the author does a really good job of 'filtering' the story through the lenses of the eyes of the main characters. The two characters notice different things, react to the same situations differently, etc. He calls it a 'Parallel Novel', and it fits perfectly.
Enders Game is more action packed, but if you're into more of the conceptual stuff, then go read the sequels too.

Also, Touhou is what pushed me to read it but... read And Then There Were None. Yeah, I know, but its a really good suspense/paranoia/mystery book. My 2nd favorite, in fact.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Fetch()tirade on January 04, 2012, 07:44:51 AM
Enders Game

I approve of this post. I loved that book and its related works (the sequels Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind, as well as the parallel works). You don't have to read all of them, just try the first one and see if it's to your tastes.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Nietz on January 04, 2012, 08:01:26 AM
I do quite like science fiction and science fantasy, and I have an interest in victorian literature (English A-level :V)
I would recommend the Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson. It's historical fiction set in (and documenting) the beginning of the modern era, but it reads a lot like science fiction.

I approve of this post. I loved that book and its related works (the sequels Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind, as well as the parallel works). You don't have to read all of them, just try the first one and see if it's to your tastes.
I would say Ender's Game itself has a very different tone that its sequels. They are all great reads though. I am just a little wary of some of the morality Card tries to push in it.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Paul Debrion on January 04, 2012, 08:49:09 AM
Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco
It's an anti-conspiracy theory story of sorts. Instead of being about some kind of "Dan Brown"-like conspiracy theory, it's a story about people who make such conspiracy theories (Templars and Freemasons oh my!) and it portrays such conspiracy theories in a very negative, twisted, and tragic way. It's really interesting even though it suffers from annoyingly awkward wording and obscure vocabulary at times, though I've heard this is partly due to flaws in the Italian to English translation.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 04, 2012, 08:59:04 AM
1. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (probably will stink as a movie)
2. The Last King of Scotland (probably as good as the movie)
3. Memoirs of a Geisha (the book too)
4. Troy (the book, not the movie)
5. any selection of Lovecraftian horror (thank god for the lack of movies)
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Hello Purvis on January 04, 2012, 09:08:51 AM
Ender's Game disappointed me, because the resolution I imagined for it was so much better than what happened. This is what happens when you read 1984 right before it =[
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 04, 2012, 12:01:49 PM
5. any selection of Lovecraftian horror (thank god for the lack of movies)

Cthulhu approves.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 04, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
My standard two recommendations are Watership Down by Richard Adams and Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Angelfire on January 04, 2012, 12:43:40 PM
The first three Maximum Ride books. Don't bother with the ones after Saving the World and Other Extreme Sports, they all suck.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Kinzo the Astro Curious on January 04, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
Why hasn't the Red Dwarf Omnibus been suggested yet?

Thats the only fiction I have ever read all the way through (tend to keep my reading to textbooks and webpages lol) and I loved every minute of it.

Thinking of reading the book this video is based off sometime Steven Baxter's Voyage (http://youtu.be/rrbvM5HuQRE) But I don't know anything about it yet aside from its based on an alternate set of events after Apollo and a long trip to Mars. If the Orbiter forum made a video about it though, its probably worth a look.

I like Space.  :V
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Menorah Jams, Pham on January 04, 2012, 04:29:02 PM
Mr. Midshipman Hornblower - I know it's not SF but it's definitely awesome if you want to Read Literature without needing a Cliff Notes guide.

Reamde, Ready Player One, Cryptonomicon, The Diamond Age, Red Storm Rising. 

So long free time!
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Zil on January 04, 2012, 06:05:19 PM
Dude. Anything by Jack Vance or Gene Wolfe. I love Science Fantasy and those guys are masters. My all time favorite is Gene Wolfe's "Shadow of the Torturer" and its sequels. So that's what I reccomend. :D Or if you want something shorter Jack Vance's books tend to be short and sweet. "To Live Forever," "The Dying Earth," "The Men Return," etc.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 04, 2012, 06:49:59 PM
if you don't like Anne Rice and her endlessly long vampire porn that predates Meyer, then you probably won't like Interview with a Vampire, but it is classier than Meyer at least, so that is worthy of reading if you are Remilia fan, I read those to work on my fiction and writing style so it is very good, was engaged up till book 6 or something called Blood and Gold of the Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice.

Alma Katsu is a writer I been reading from recently, similiar style, but not too bright.

There is a unique writer of modern day dark fiction, Maekatsu or something, can't quite remember, I would recommend a few titles by this guy when I have time.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Hello Purvis on January 04, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
The Diamond Age

Diamond Age is at once an awesome and terrible book. The first half sets up an intricate and highly fascinating setting with largely cool characters. The second half is devoted to systematically ripping it all down and destroying anything and everything that made it interesting. I got about forty pages from the end of the book, with is 600-800 pages long, saw
the female lead, who am I pretty sure is a virgin, get gang-raped in the space of two lines. Then she shrugs it off like it never happened because she's a TUFF COOKIE. Seriously, if you're just skimming, it's entirely possible to miss it. I've literally had to remind people who finished the book that it even happened that, yes, she got gang-raped.
Also, as the book goes on, it gets more laden with Inscrutable Orientals bullshit and how they are fundamentally different.  So do tread carefully in that one,

I've personally vowed that if I ever meet Neal Stephenson I'm going to punch him in the face for it.  In fact, Neal Stephenson tends to have a real problem with not knowing how to end his books, so you have a tendency toward wonderful settings and rising actions, then wet fart conclusions. 

But, he did a fine job with Zodiac. It's kinda more for a modern thriller, but it's a pretty good one.  So I'd recommend Zodiac. Also, I'd recommend William Gibson's Pattern Recognition, it's also pretty neat. Though as a warning it was written as a 9/11 catharsis.  I would not recommend anything else by Gibson at this time.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: NegaZero on January 07, 2012, 06:24:05 AM
My recommendations are:

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick
Faust, First Part by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Doctor Faustus by Christopher Marlow
1984 by George Orwell
The Divine Comedy (or at least Inferno) by Dante Alighieri
Dracula by Bram Stoker
The Odyssey and The Iliad, both by Homer
The Hot Zone by Richard Preston
Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
The Last Lecture by Randy Pausch
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku

The Hunger Games.  Just got them, they're really good books.  I definitely suggest them.
Seconding this suggestion.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Kinzo the Astro Curious on January 07, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku

Ahh Michio Kaku. The scientific tv shows favirote fruitcake.

He can make some good points now and then, but some of his ideas fire so far off into fantasy its untrue lol
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Athrel on January 07, 2012, 07:09:56 PM
The Pendragon series is a pretty good set of fantasy/sci-fi novels. (Note: has nothing to do with king Arthur)
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: NegaZero on January 07, 2012, 07:34:30 PM
Ahh Michio Kaku. The scientific tv shows favirote fruitcake.

He can make some good points now and then, but some of his ideas fire so far off into fantasy its untrue lol

True, true. Most of what he says makes absolutely no sense (even with his "explanations"), it's just fun to think about.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on January 07, 2012, 07:50:02 PM
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov

This is indeed a great book, but also a very misunderstood one. Despite what the term "lolita" means today - a young seductress - the book Lolita is actually about a deeply deluded and disturbed man who believes the young girl he wants also lusts for him, when nothing could be further from the truth. This is not a spoiler; it's the story Nabakov intended that somehow got lost on critics and readers over the years. Keep in mind that Humbert Humbert is completely wrong about Lolita's feelings for him, and the book will be a much richer and more enjoyable read.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: HakureiSM on January 08, 2012, 12:31:13 AM

P much. It's the story of a mad pedophile, no less. It's a great read.

Someone mentioned Crichton, which forces me to mention Sphere.
It's sci-fi, but it's so damn worth it.
Title: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on January 08, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Just got IQ84, the latest novel by Haruki Murakami, and I can't recommend it highly enough. I haven't read it, but it's Murakami. The worst he does is "pretty good". I think if he tried to write a terrible novel, it would still end up better than anything on the shelves right now.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on January 08, 2012, 05:54:42 PM
If you're into the harder types of science fiction, I'd recommend the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars). It's a pretty thorough look at what the colonization and development of a settlement/society on the planet would look like, while still having pretty engaging characters in the meantime.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Paper Conan on January 08, 2012, 09:43:11 PM
The Hunger Games.  Just got them, they're really good books.  I definitely suggest them.
:3

Thirded.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 09, 2012, 10:49:32 PM
Ammy, out of curiousity, have you read Haruki Murakami's Underground? If you've talked about it before, I can't recall. If you have, would you recommend it? Why or why not?
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on January 09, 2012, 10:54:16 PM
Ammy, out of curiousity, have you read Haruki Murakami's Underground? If you've talked about it before, I can't recall. If you have, would you recommend it? Why or why not?

I would recommend it. It's entirely interviews - in the first half, interviews with victims of the sarin gas attack; in the second half, former and current members of the Aum cult. It might be a good idea to start with some basic reading of what happened on the day in question first, but once you have, he creates a really human picture of the event, in the words of the people who were there. It's very stark, raw and excellent journalism.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 09, 2012, 10:57:28 PM
Wonderful. I'll pick it up on my next trip to the library.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Phoenix_lostarr on January 20, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
Bumping to say that I'm thinking of getting a Lovecraft book or two... oh, and some Charles Dickens.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: theshirn on January 20, 2012, 03:26:25 PM
... oh, and some Charles Dickens.
excuse me while I rip my brains out through my eyes
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Phoenix_lostarr on January 20, 2012, 03:49:08 PM
Hard Times is required reading for my English course... it was just hypothetical that I@d get any more.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on January 21, 2012, 04:41:29 AM
Hard Times is required reading for my English course... it was just hypothetical that I@d get any more.

Dickens isn't one of my favorites, but A Tale Of Two Cities is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: noire on February 11, 2012, 11:12:36 PM
I find the work of the Japanese writer, Haruki  Murakami very compelling.

I have read several of his novels and am now reading his short stories. A lot of his writing raises more questions than gives answers and I am often left in a state of anxiety about how that story will 'really' end. A lot is left unsaid and the reader is left to draw her own conclusions.

A very good read if you don't mind being a little or a lot, unsatisfied when you're finished.

Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: noodles on February 13, 2012, 12:32:30 AM
Eifelheim by Michael Flynn. Give it a chance and it will not disappoint.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Amraphenson on February 13, 2012, 02:33:17 AM
Jim Butcher has some good stuff; I like Dresden more than his other series though.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: theshirn on February 13, 2012, 02:30:23 PM
Jim Butcher has some good stuff; I like Dresden more than his other series though.
Codex Alera is author-admitted going for a more classic fantasy feel, but it's still very character-centric like his Dresden books.  But it works better with Dresden, I have to agree.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 13, 2012, 04:13:11 PM
Just got IQ84, the latest novel by Haruki Murakami, and I can't recommend it highly enough. I haven't read it, but it's Murakami. The worst he does is "pretty good". I think if he tried to write a terrible novel, it would still end up better than anything on the shelves right now.

He always write stuff that seemed overly pretentious imo.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on February 13, 2012, 04:25:01 PM
He always write stuff that seemed overly pretentious imo.

You're joking, right? The male protagonist of every Murakami novel is always some totally average guy - he likes beer, likes baseball, enjoys casual affairs, but isn't remarkable in any particular way. Moreover, Murakami uses a very precise, clear, ground-level language to tell his stories. I think there are fewer less pretentious writers than Murakami. He's the genuine article.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 13, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
In my opinion following the description above, I would prefer Khaled Hosseini. You may have heard of Kite Runner.

I guess it depends, it is a matter of preference, I just don't sit well with Murakami.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Unassuming Squid on February 13, 2012, 04:52:08 PM
I cannot stress enough my support for getting the works of H.P. Lovecraft. Possibly my favorite author ever.

Edgar Allan Poe is also great if you haven't read much of his stuff.

Other than them, I don't have a lot of recommendations. I haven't read much of anything lately, but off the top of my head I can recommend:

The Divine Comedy. Inferno especially. My mother actually translated it in a very readable and enjoyable format for ebook just last year. The title for that is Dante's Inferno: A Wanderer in Hell, published by Double Dragon. I'd really, really recommend it, and not just because my mom did it.

Sheppard Lee, Written by Himself
The Hermaphrodite
War of the Worlds
The Picture of Dorian Gray
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
The Island of Dr. Moreau
Beowulf
Title: Book reccomendations
Post by: Tengukami on February 13, 2012, 05:24:27 PM
A-F, is it possible you're thinking of Ryu Murakami; not Haruki? I'm not saying you MUST like Haruki, just that he's never pretended to be anything.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Zil on February 13, 2012, 06:02:44 PM
I've never read anything by either of these Murakamis, so I don't mean to say this about either of them, but I think that the "just plain normal" thing can come across as quite pretentious in some cases, like when Stephen King does it.

Now I guess I'll take the time to regurgitate what I said earlier: Vance and Wolfe are cool if you're into sci-fi/fantasy. I'll also support what's been said about Lolita. It's not my usual genre, but I found it interesting. It's also one of those books that all of the "well read" people claim to have read.
Title: Book reccomendations
Post by: Tengukami on February 13, 2012, 06:18:34 PM
I think "pretentious" might be one of the most abused words in the English language. It means to pretend to be what you're not in order to impress others. Haruki is an ordinary guy with an ordinary background, writing with ordinary language about protags who are also ordinary guys. Whether you like his writing or hate it, it is categorically not pretensious. Sorry to be a pedant about it, but it's sort of a pet peeve of mine when people misuse this word.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Zil on February 13, 2012, 07:26:41 PM
I was thinking that if it's done in an unfitting or unnecessary way it could be called pretentious. Sometimes the writer is assuming multiple writing styles at different times like a movie changes background music. I guess there's some sense in it if you want to give a different "feel" at some points, but sometimes it's like "okay, time for an obligatory change of pace!" Maybe saying "stereotypical" would have been better, or even... "cliche." (These words give me headaches.)

Maybe I'll just call anything I don't like "phony" and not think about it. :D
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 14, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Hmm, I never read Ryu's work so I am sure it has to be Haruki.
However, let put that aside, I just don't enjoy his works as much, and leave it at that.

now : Zadie Smith, anyone?
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on February 14, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
Ryu Murakami is one of those enfant terrible writers. His novel 69, a memoir about his college days, was a very funny and touching book, giving incredible insight to Japan in the late 60s, when student protests were at their peak. However, he's since then descended into the realm of shock fiction, as evidenced in Coin Locker Babies and awarding the Best New Writer prize to Hitomi Kanehara for her first novel, Snakes and Earrings. That book reads like an interesting rough draft of a manuscript, but that's just it - it's a mess, telling more than showing, crammed with pointless sex and violence, and ends abruptly and nonsensically. It's no wonder Ryu loved it.

The Gangster We Are All Looking For, by l? thi diem th?y, is one I recently re-read, and it's incredible. Very poignant book about growing up as a Vietnamese refugee in California.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: pineyappled on February 15, 2012, 04:32:24 AM
I'm reading Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky. It's great so far, but I'm not sure what translation it is, so good luck with that. \o/
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Nietz on February 18, 2012, 02:48:51 PM
You're joking, right? The male protagonist of every Murakami novel is always some totally average guy - he likes beer, likes baseball, enjoys casual affairs, but isn't remarkable in any particular way.
And also usually much more keen on Western music and literature than the average Japanese.
...which is to say, his male protagonists are always a disguised version of himself. Which for me does make seem kind of pretentious that they always seem to get in these casual affairs so effortlessly. It doesn't always bothers me too much, but that part in Dance, dance, dance were the protagonist was all "Yeah, I could totally have slept with that girl, but it wouldn't have been fair to her." actually got me a little pissed at his smugness.

I really do like most of his works, though. Romantic woes aside, his early works do paint a sincere picture of youth and everyday-folk uncertain of their place in the Japanese society. Hard-boiled Wonderland is a great mixture of fantasy and SF and Wind-up Bird Chronicle touched on subjects that most Japanese are uncomfortable approaching these days.
I just think that, as of Kafka and After Dark there's been too much of empty symbolism in his work. As if based on reader and critic's response he decided that being symbolic is his "thing", and has to include symbolic or deep-sounding stuff even when there's no need for it story or artistically-wise.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Tengukami on February 18, 2012, 04:01:35 PM
And also usually much more keen on Western music and literature than the average Japanese.
...which is to say, his male protagonists are always a disguised version of himself. Which for me does make seem kind of pretentious that they always seem to get in these casual affairs so effortlessly. It doesn't always bothers me too much, but that part in Dance, dance, dance were the protagonist was all "Yeah, I could totally have slept with that girl, but it wouldn't have been fair to her." actually got me a little pissed at his smugness.

Dance, Dance, Dance was, in my opinion, a substandard work. I see what you're saying about his self-insert protags ending up with casual affairs, but it's not outside the realm of reality. And let's also consider that the women he gets paired with are often substantially more interesting and more talented than he is. He just sort of goes along for the ride, which I think is pretty self-deprecating, actually. Speaking of which, his male protags often engage in shameful and caddish behavior with irreversible consequences that he often regrets. As opposed to the "guy rescues helpless woman from terrible situation" gimmick that he could be using.

I really do like most of his works, though. Romantic woes aside, his early works do paint a sincere picture of youth and everyday-folk uncertain of their place in the Japanese society. Hard-boiled Wonderland is a great mixture of fantasy and SF and Wind-up Bird Chronicle touched on subjects that most Japanese are uncomfortable approaching these days.
I just think that, as of Kafka and After Dark there's been too much of empty symbolism in his work. As if based on reader and critic's response he decided that being symbolic is his "thing", and has to include symbolic or deep-sounding stuff even when there's no need for it story or artistically-wise.

I was kind of "Buh?" about Kafka On The Shore, and After Dark seemed to be reaching towards something that it never quite got. I'm about 250 pages into 1Q84, though, and can attest that he's got it back. It's an incredible story. I think it might even replace Wind-Up Bird Chronicles as his considered masterpiece.

Full disclosure: my favorite works by him are works that most people don't care for, e.g., Sputnik SweetheartSouth Of The Border West Of The Sun, and his short story collections.
Title: Re: Book recommendations
Post by: Nekomata-chan on February 18, 2012, 09:12:47 PM
Alexandre Dumas' Count of Monte Cristo is quite an interesting classic. Having read it myself not too long ago, I recommend it thoroughly. It's set in Revolutionary France, and before I knew this, I had the impression that it would be a vampire novel. Completely surprised there.