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Title: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 16, 2011, 04:20:02 AM
Complain about video games here. Complain about the past here. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,9176.0.html)

Oh my god, I haven't been this pissed off at Touhou since Eirin exactly a year ago. Purple Omen is terrible. It is terrible. Apollo 13 levels of terrible, and it doesn't have the decency to get easier after the first wave either. If it weren't for this freaking spell card, I'd have perfected Byakuren twice over already. Screw it. Screw it to Avici. >:(

Also Devil's Recitation is a troll. I've died three times on perfects up to that point that were literally one second away from a capture.

Still...I've made a lot of progress today. Which is a good thing. I think I sunk five hours into this total, holy shit. o_o Thank god this is the last time I'll ever have to drive myself bonkers like this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 16, 2011, 06:41:57 PM
Fuck EoSD Extra.
Fuck Marisa B and her on-off lasers.
Fuck the stupid wall-happy luck-based death fairy that everyone else calls "loleasy" but still manages to make me waste a fucking bomb almost every time.
Fuck Silent Selene and its incredible randomness that makes me never capture the card.
Fuck Patchouli and her random movement on said card.
Fuck the Royal Flare safespot that requires EXPERT TIMING for the second wave.
Fuck the books and their horrible tiny bullets that I can't see.
I HATE THIS STAGE.
edit: Fuck Lunatic mode too. Why is the jump from Hard to Lunatic so bloody immense? And if anyone says "because it's Lunatic" I will fucking kill them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: theshirn on December 16, 2011, 06:45:38 PM
An apt title for a rage thread.

I am so unbelievably bad at Touhou these days.  I can barely beat Remilia on a practice run.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 16, 2011, 06:58:48 PM
edit: Fuck Lunatic mode too. Why is the jump from Hard to Lunatic so bloody immense? And if anyone says "because it's Lunatic" I will fucking kill them.
Because it's lunatic.   :dealwithit:
Also, higher bullet speed, density and spread as well as a larger dose of required luck.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 16, 2011, 07:06:06 PM
Also, higher bullet speed, density and spread as well as a larger dose of required luck skill.

Fixed. 8)

This is only for the really advanced stuff, but you also need to be better at reasoning out weaknesses in attack patterns. Things you could get away with not knowing in hard mode will rip you apart in lunatic if you don't learn their intricacies.

Disclaimer: This stances holds despite my madness-induced rants about Purple Omen being the epitome of luckshit  that are sure to come later today.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 16, 2011, 07:24:21 PM
EoSD does have more luck on lunatic though, see Vampire Illusion, Stage 6 Sakuya's nonspell and Scarlet Gensoyko compared to their hard counterparts.
Yes, more skill is required, but that's a given.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 16, 2011, 07:29:24 PM
EoSD does have more luck on lunatic though, see Vampire Illusion, Stage 6 Sakuya's nonspell and Scarlet Gensoyko compared to their hard counterparts.
Yes, more skill is required, but that's a given.

Aah, but therein lies my point. There are actually very few situations in any of these where you are truly screwed. Take it from somebody who's played the stage over 500 times - With enough creativity and absolute knowledge of the inner workings of the cards, nothing is impossible.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on December 16, 2011, 07:42:09 PM
My rage (on myself) is gonna pierce the heavens! >:( Failed one of the most "successfull" attempts on TD hard no bombs by completely screwing easiest Miko stuff. I've even saved the replay so you can share my pain http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17449
I'm trying to pull it for weeks and always manage to fuck up somewhere. But i dont fucking care! Some more practice and i'll do this! 8)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on December 16, 2011, 09:17:04 PM
EoSD does have more luck on lunatic though, see Vampire Illusion, Stage 6 Sakuya's nonspell and Scarlet Gensoyko compared to their hard counterparts.
Yes, more skill is required, but that's a given.
Aah, but therein lies my point. There are actually very few situations in any of these where you are truly screwed. Take it from somebody who's played the stage over 500 times - With enough creativity and absolute knowledge of the inner workings of the cards, nothing is impossible.
Can't agree more. Stuff like Vampire Illusion walls are almost always dodgeable one way or another.
*also coming from someone who has played that stage > 400 times but still can't perfect it.
*Scarlet Gensokyo walls, which happens rarely, is, on the other hand, practically impossible.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 16, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Because it's lunatic.   :dealwithit:
Also, higher bullet speed, density and spread as well as a larger dose of required luck.

alslkjfsldfgnkjwer I knew someone was going to do that

I'm in a better mood though so I laughed instead of raged.
I don't even know why I'm playing Lunatic when I can barely beat Hard. It's not fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 16, 2011, 11:40:22 PM
Alright. I'm quite sure now that the only thing preventing me from 1ccing UFO is the fact that I'm using SanaeA. It's because of her that my spell history for Nirvana's Path is better than all of of Byakuren's other spells. I couldn't even beat Byakuren with continues. :fail:
EDIT: Fuck it. Doing this would require me to get so used to handling Sanae (hehehe...) that I'd experience similar bullshit when switching back to Reimu.
Thank god this is the last time I'll ever have to drive myself bonkers like this.
Until the next game comes out. >=D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on December 17, 2011, 07:43:12 AM
FUCK SUWAKO'S LAST CARD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHGLLGKJGLKGHGLKJHGLGHLGKJHGLKJH

Why must you utterly ruin a no-focus run when I enter you with one life at 5.00 power? That run was fantastic all the way until I got there, at which point I lost...despite not getting hit with bombs in stock. GAH. FUCK.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Magepigeon on December 17, 2011, 05:03:24 PM
Whoever Kokkuri-san is, I'm going to find them and rip their contract to shreds. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17470)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on December 17, 2011, 06:39:26 PM
Did.
This.
Really.
Just.
Happen.
TWICE? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17474)
IN A ROW? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17475)

I think I'm going to calm down somewhere...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 17, 2011, 08:24:34 PM
so, yeah.
Apparently ExKanako's first spell isn't perfectly ordered like I thought.
Each line of bullets isn't perfectly lined up.
I dodged 2, then the 3rd bullet of the line hit me.
So now my capture history on it is 22/23 with ReimuB.
JUST LET ME GET THE PERFECT ALREADY
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on December 17, 2011, 08:34:04 PM
sick and tired of so much annoyances at home that is driving my performance to rock bottom! Can't even perfect stage 1 and 2 of EoSD on lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 17, 2011, 11:23:31 PM
GOD DAMMIT WHY DO I SUCK SO BAD AT SUWAKO'S SURVIVAL CARDS
THAT'S LIKE 4 PERFECTS FAILED THERE AND THAT MANY ON THE REST OF HER
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: mikeKOSA on December 18, 2011, 04:30:45 AM
Fuck Kaguya and her last spells.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 18, 2011, 07:48:29 PM
Alright. I'm quite sure now that the only thing preventing me from 1ccing UFO is the fact that I'm using SanaeA. It's because of her that my spell history for Nirvana's Path is better than all of of Byakuren's other spells. I couldn't even beat Byakuren with continues. :fail:

The most surefire way to clear UFO Lunatic is probably to use SanaeB. Her bomb is awesome because it allows you to effortlessly stroll around picking up UFO's while using it unlike ReimuA who slows you down. SanaeB also handles the stages and PSM easier.

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.Until the next game comes out. >=D

That sure as hell depends on whether or not ZUN keeps straying off the path of righteousness.  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on December 18, 2011, 07:51:48 PM
EoSD Lunatic: 1cc failed at Scarlet Gensokyo, again. Grrr... got too nervous and wasted my last bombs there ("bullet incoming!!!!" *bomb* "Another bullet!" *bomb*). I'll be back, Remilia. You Sakuya might as well prepare tea and cookies already.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: SuperParadox on December 18, 2011, 08:28:27 PM
EoSD, Why are you stuck on 90 fps? Its fine and everything, I should take the challange. But y'know, haven't played you in awhile.... It would be nice if you didin't do that.

Playing EoSD extra in 90FPS and what happens? One tiny bullet, lots of space between it and other bullets, run right into it, ragequit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 18, 2011, 08:29:21 PM
The most surefire way to clear UFO Lunatic is probably to use SanaeB. Her bomb is awesome because it allows you to effortlessly stroll around picking up UFO's while using it unlike ReimuA who slows you down. SanaeB also handles the stages and PSM easier.
Yeah I used her to clear Hard way back when I was doing that. I'm gonna use ReimuA for this though because I don't want to feel like I chickened out. :V
That sure as hell depends on whether or not ZUN keeps straying off the path of righteousness.  :D
I think there's good hope. He made three good games in row before TD, so maybe that was just a fluke. (Hopefully :ohdear:)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 18, 2011, 08:40:05 PM
Yeah I used her to clear Hard way back when I was doing that. I'm gonna use ReimuA for this though because I don't want to feel like I chickened out. :VI think there's good hope. He made three good games in row before TD, so maybe that was just a fluke. (Hopefully :ohdear:)

Yeah or maybe those three in a row was a fluke-streak. Hopefully that isn't the case though. As for SanaeB, she isn't a cheating type, just the only one who doesn't have a stupid handicap. Or rather, its not that many things she makes easier. There is that portion at the end of UFO Stage 5 and the orb spam in Stage 3, that's basically it. As for PSM, the safespot is somewhat easy to use though it does require you to stay awake and make sure to position yourself right.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 18, 2011, 10:01:53 PM
Yeah or maybe those three in a row was a fluke-streak. Hopefully that isn't the case though. As for SanaeB, she isn't a cheating type, just the only one who doesn't have a stupid handicap. Or rather, its not that many things she makes easier. There is that portion at the end of UFO Stage 5 and the orb spam in Stage 3, that's basically it. As for PSM, the safespot is somewhat easy to use though it does require you to stay awake and make sure to position yourself right.

It's been ages since I last played as Sanae B (only played once actually), but with the wide range she covers can she actually not shoot UFOs? If not, I'd actually think she's somewhat impractical to use in parts if you want to time the explosion of an UFO while shooting enemies I think. I really wouldn't refer to her as broken for that reason; she's got advantages and disadvantages, just like most chars. She just happens to have an ability that lets you bypass some parts that would otherwise require proper use of UFOs in exchange for a lower damage output I'd assume.

Which reminds me, is the title an FFXI reference?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 18, 2011, 10:24:50 PM
Her UFO capabilities are just fine afaik. Most of the damage probably comes from the characters main shot and not the options, i think - refer to that thread thingy for details.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 19, 2011, 01:57:17 AM
Yes I think the title is a FFXI reference. Possibly playing on the fact that FFXI being an online game induced a good deal of rage in FF fans. (Though I gave up on the series after playing FFVII for about a week.)
And I don't think SanaeB has difficulty with UFOs. You never really need to worry about using them to survive since Sanae nukes the enemies during stages herself.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 19, 2011, 02:44:29 AM
I have a feeling I'll be posting here a lot...
First, HOW DID I FAIL ExKANAKO'S FIRST SPELL (again)
Second, Suwako is taunting me by giving me my fastest capture of Jade of the Horrid River, followed by a lucky dodge on Snake Eats the Croaking Frog before giving me a much denser barrage than usual on Froggy Braves the Elements.  I died.  Then I go on to practice the survivals, fail Red Frog as usual, then fail Suwa War to something I couldn't even see (streaming down, death, all sun 'ring' bullets were still there), ragequit because my best run yet turned much worse than my current best.

Third, I failed the fairies right before Kanako.
4th, I had my first failure at Long Arm and Long Leg.
I think I'll be failing at least once on every spell...I really hope I'm wrong about that for Mishaguji-sama though, I don't know if I could bear to get both survivals in the same run as everything before them twice.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Formless God on December 19, 2011, 04:51:46 AM
I don't even know which thread to post this in :getdown:

Did a non-serious run in UFO Extra, 3DNB, with all three deaths on Green. In other words, if I hadn't forgotten how to do that spell, it would've been a stage my first extra stage perfect.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 19, 2011, 07:08:10 AM
wegixngawkeufngxqkwkigILUDEN CWHFREINCFG !%@#%^!#@%^!$@#%^$

WHY did ZUN think it was a good idea to put something so LUCK BASED that late into the Suwako battle?  I mean, my last 2DNB run both deaths were my fault on favorable RNG, but THIS time I lost the perfect due to WALL at 20 seconds left and WALL at 2 seconds left due to a 'sun' coming pretty much straight down the middle.
So NOW I'm pretty pissed off at this design, but to know that I've at least got the stage mostly down is at least a good thing.

EDIT: Anyone who's perfected Suwako, about how many attempts were foiled by the survival cards?  So far I've had 4 or 5 runs end there of about 15 total at Suwako.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 19, 2011, 08:15:25 AM
Mmm, I'd say more of them were foiled by her first survival card, but Suwa War is indeed a real pain. My suggestion is to stay at the top for as long as possible. As far as I know, as long as you stay up there no suns will spawn where you are, so you only have to move down once they explicitly become aimed at you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 19, 2011, 08:41:57 AM
Yes I think the title is a FFXI reference. Possibly playing on the fact that FFXI being an online game induced a good deal of rage in FF fans. (Though I gave up on the series after playing FFVII for about a week.)

That's because those guys are fools, FFXI made up half of my adolescence, massive time sink, but I most certainly had a lot of fun. King Behemoth at 10AM after Fafnir around 5AM, those were the times.

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And I don't think SanaeB has difficulty with UFOs. You never really need to worry about using them to survive since Sanae nukes the enemies during stages herself.

Ah, true, that makes sense, of course, needing UFOs is a result of not being able to clear large amount of enemies in time, after all.

Guess I should check out the Shot-type thread sometime soon, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zap on December 19, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
Let it be known that I am not very skilled in Touhou, so the most I can hope for is a 1CC on Normal. With that said...

#(&^^#(&*^%#*(&#()*%#&^*!!!  >:(

I get so close to finally beating EoSD on Normal, SO CLOSE! I had one of the most successful runs up to about late stage 4, and even then I was doing decent. But I ran out of lives at Remila's 2nd to Final spell card!!! Argh!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 19, 2011, 08:59:15 AM
Yes I think the title is a FFXI reference. Possibly playing on the fact that FFXI being an online game induced a good deal of rage in FF fans. (Though I gave up on the series after playing FFVII for about a week.)

VII is stupid easy. Play FFX and don't do any grinding and be happy.[/quote]
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 19, 2011, 06:13:30 PM
I think I'm just sick of both PCB and EoSD...I can't find any fun in them. The only thing left for me to do in PCB is to beat Yukari with MarisaB which I should probably go and do but I just don't feel like it. In EoSD I should go and defeat Flandre with the same shot-type without the use of the Starbow Break safespot but the stage is frustrating me so much that I don't want to right now. PCB Hard is too difficult. EoSD Lunatic is beyond my standards. I don't want to try out any special challenges like a no-death/pacifist/perfect run of any stage.
I can't wait for IN to arrive, seriously. I need more variety.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 19, 2011, 06:40:38 PM
VII is stupid easy. Play FFX and don't do any grinding and be happy.
FFIX is the better game, play that at Level 1 and get the Excalibur II and be happier.
FFX has those stupid unskippable cutscenes of DOOM.

Mmm, I'd say more of them were foiled by her first survival card, but Suwa War is indeed a real pain. My suggestion is to stay at the top for as long as possible. As far as I know, as long as you stay up there no suns will spawn where you are, so you only have to move down once they explicitly become aimed at you.
I'm consistently getting to at least Froggy Braves the Elements, and I'm getting better at the first survival, but I still only get each of the survivals about 1/4 of the time with ReimuB.  That's the strategy I used for Suwa War anyway, but I still got trapped twice due to the worst luck I've seen on it (and nearly 4 times, but I got out of it the first 2 times).  I kept going and got Mishaguji-sama, so I'll probably perfect the stage after I get both survivals...whenever that is.

EDIT: Which is NOT now.
3 stage portion errors, followed by Long Arm and Long Leg by finding out the lasers have hitboxes about a pixel bigger then the sprite.

DOUBLE EDIT:
I think I'll be failing at least once on every spell...I really hope I'm wrong about that for Mishaguji-sama though, I don't know if I could bear to get both survivals in the same run as everything before them twice.
CHOKE ON MISHAGUJI-SAMA
Now I'm really pissed because I actually got both survivals in the same run and didn't fail the stage at all this run and it had my best score after the stage and that Moriya's Iron Ring capture was epic and I died twice to the last spell in really stupid clips and  I can do this because now I've captured all pairs of spells in the same run I just have never captured her last 3 in a row before.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 20, 2011, 01:10:55 AM
I think I'm just sick of both PCB and EoSD...I can't find any fun in them. The only thing left for me to do in PCB is to beat Yukari with MarisaB which I should probably go and do but I just don't feel like it. In EoSD I should go and defeat Flandre with the same shot-type without the use of the Starbow Break safespot but the stage is frustrating me so much that I don't want to right now. PCB Hard is too difficult. EoSD Lunatic is beyond my standards. I don't want to try out any special challenges like a no-death/pacifist/perfect run of any stage.
I can't wait for IN to arrive, seriously. I need more variety.
In all seriousness, you should play the post PoFV games (MoF, SA, UFO). They are zillions of times better.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 20, 2011, 01:53:20 AM
I'm really looking forward to playing SA because it's one of my favourite games. However I've decided to get the games in order and I'm sticking with that.
The only exceptions to this rule are going to be the "mid-games" such as SWR and STB, and PoFV. The latter just isn't really my style and I want to get good at the main shooters before I go on to the others.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 20, 2011, 03:10:54 AM
In all seriousness, you should play the post PoFV games (MoF, SA, UFO). They are zillions of times better.
MoF is my favorite, followed by IN.
Imperishable Night also lasts the longest due to spell practice if you decide to get a 222/222 history.
Ten Desires...not so much because I captured some 110 of the 127 spells in 5 or less tries, and only 4 took 10+ (Mamizou's overdrive, Mamizou's final, Yoshika's final, and Seiga's overdrive)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on December 20, 2011, 06:19:54 AM
Marine Benefit Extra Boss's survival with the walls.

Why am I still gapping away all of the bullets when I'm telling myself not to...?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: SuperParadox on December 20, 2011, 07:57:14 AM
EoSD stage 6, Normal, No focus. I got perfect untill the last spell card and got game over.

PCB Hard going for a no bomb no death run. Oh no Alice showed up on the screen! Better bomb even though she hardly started to attack. Wat.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: LeviLamprey on December 20, 2011, 02:29:18 PM
Glimmer, what Zil said.
EoSD and PCB lose value after short times of play and the motivation to retry is SOOOO low.
I seem to spiral on these.
I make a derpdeath at Letty or Chen, and by the time I'm done I'm colliding with pre-Chiruno Kedama.
.\/.
Also
FUCK EXTRA KEINE
AND FUCK KANAKO'S HAXXINESS
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 20, 2011, 05:02:21 PM
Well FUCK.
So yesterday my computer randomly turned off for some reason while I had the main menu for PCB up on the screen. Yesterday I went to watch a replay and noticed that the spell card history for every card in the run said 0/0 but I didn't think much of it. Just now I opened the game to play stage 5 Hard and suddenly realised that the stages hadn't been unlocked; I could only play stage 1 in practice. I went back to the title screen and saw that Extra and Phantasm were locked again. And then I went to my spell history and, surprise surprise, everything was gone. The only things that survived this were my replays which is relieving, but it's so annoying that I have to go and beat Normal with every character, capture the 60 cards to face Yukari, do everything again from scratch. I had to do this once before when I screwed up something in the game files - I was trying to install the English patch and ended up deleting the BGM and a couple of other things leading me to having to install the game again. I managed to get back to where I had left off but to do it again? This is just unfair.
I just don't know what happened.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 20, 2011, 06:31:57 PM
Well, so much for that idea.

That idea being a UFO 90 FPS normal clear, because I *finally* 1cced to Flying Fantastica and died to the first phase.  Screw that, I'm never beating UFO on a higher FPS, it isn't worth it due to THAT monstrosity at the end.  Stupid bombs not clearing bullets...Maybe if the bomb cleared bullets I could do it, but since they don't I'm giving up on that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on December 20, 2011, 08:38:53 PM
So I just had a 1D Koishi.

Up to Genetics.

I lost four lives on Genetics.

And it was my first time getting to her survival. Of course, I proceeded to die on the third phase. Wheeee.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Arcengal on December 20, 2011, 11:49:53 PM
Hmm, I haven't beat Yukari for a while, let's play that.

...

(clear 1/2 with 5 spells captured)

Okay what the fuck. I nearly perfected this fight like 3 times. I've been playing too much TD.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Paper Conan on December 21, 2011, 05:55:10 AM
>Doesn't play Touhou in three months
>Proceeds to Sanae A UFO Lunatic
....
>Lose only 2 lives up to stage 5
>Proceed to get raped by Shou

I'm not that mad.... really.
 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: RegalStar on December 21, 2011, 07:18:33 AM
SanaeA Normal UFO 1cc attempt. Finally I understood the rage that is losing your last live when Byakuren's exploding.

(On the other hand, I really should stop being so cocky in stage 5 after getting a near perfect on it with SanaeB)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 22, 2011, 07:41:52 AM
Game over to Legendary Flying Saucer. I died twice to the butterfly spell, with bombs in stock. At least it has become apparant that I can do this if I don't play like an idiot. Lost three bombs and a life to Aura of Light. :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 22, 2011, 07:59:06 AM
SanaeA Normal UFO 1cc attempt. Finally I understood the rage that is losing your last live when Byakuren's exploding.

(On the other hand, I really should stop being so cocky in stage 5 after getting a near perfect on it with SanaeB)
I have never once double KOed the whole game.  I've died as the boss is exploding a couple times, only once at the very end (90 FPS SA normal) and always with a life in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 22, 2011, 10:57:48 AM
Lost three bombs and a life to Aura of Light. :fail:

Three bombs and a life is a lot. It shouldn't take more than a bomb to kill the attack, what happened.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 22, 2011, 11:34:20 AM
Two of the bombs were lost with the first life. The third was used after I came back because I put myself in a box. The run was ugly in as many ways as you can imagine; the fact that it made it all the way to LFS is proof that I can win this. I hit a fairy right at the end of Nue in stage 4, again with one or two bombs in stock, thus missing the extra life. That alone could be said to have cost me the run, or any one of the other abysmal failures throughout.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 22, 2011, 11:51:40 AM
Two of the bombs were lost with the first life. The third was used after I came back because I put myself in a box. The run was ugly in as many ways as you can imagine; the fact that it made it all the way to LFS is proof that I can win this. I hit a fairy right at the end of Nue in stage 4, again with one or two bombs in stock, thus missing the extra life. That alone could be said to have cost me the run, or any one of the other abysmal failures throughout.

If you made it there, you can definitely win, absolutely positively. In the end, how far you get depends on how many mistakes you make, every little thing can add up, but at the same time one mistake can help you relax and ease off the tension, at least that's how it is with me, which is why I find it hard to calculate the overall success of a run if I include all mistakes, since mistakes aren't necessarily a bad thing if they allow me to step up my game by becoming less tense.

Granted, I found UFO to be more than unique with LFS. I don't really know if it's just the first game where I actually noticed it, but Byakuren is terrible with all the invincibility and damage reduction she gets during her last two Spellcards. If you die, you're invincible for roughly 6-7 seconds, but during that timeframe, Byakuren also takes damage like she's covered in steel plates. Same with the 1 second of invincibility after a Bomb (though it's less noticable there).

As a result, I found that living through LFS is not guaranteed with more resources - taking other last Spellcards into consideration, I'd definitely put the way LFS works into the same category as VoWG. If you can do it, you'll live, but if you can't, no resources on earth will help you (see me getting there with two Extra Lives and still getting my ass kicked despite not dying with Bombs in stock. Granted, I did terribly there, so I kind of deserved it, but you usually expect to win if you get to the last Spellcard with so many resources).

Due to that, I always thought it was kind of tough to have so much depend on how well you can handle that one Spellcard, but that's probably the purpose of last Spellcards anyway.

Either way, keep it up, you can definitely do it!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on December 22, 2011, 11:52:58 AM
So I decided on doing Yukrai today.

A few runs later...

Deaths... so... stupid...

I want to slam my head into something right about now. Like, badly. Clipdeaths to TWO NON-SPELLS, Ran Yakumo and the first goddamn wave of the survival card do NOT cut it.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 22, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
ok...
I know I haven't played the stage in a couple days...
so I get that I'll fail the stage a few times (green all direction spam once before a successful run to Suwako)...
and I get that means I'm out of practice at her first spell, causing me to mess it up and have to dodge through the spam...
but that doesn't mean I should die to Moriya's Iron Ring by moving into a stationary bullet.
and then I can't even get to Kanako, except once more where I died to the same green spam in the stage from a bullet behind a point item.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 23, 2011, 12:04:45 AM
Rakumo Ran has just done something absolutely unforgivable. For 30 minutes straight has she exposed my mind to an untold level of completely unavoidable killbull. The final photo of 8-7 in Shoot the Bullet, you know - the gay inferior version of Double Spoiler which is a greater game by virtue of being easier and with less retardedass bullshit.

Ran's 8-5... ughh. Why the heck is it impossible to move through that wall! I know I can just move around the circle and dodge the bullets as I go but what If i by some mere chance doesn't the fuck feel like it?@!

Fuck Christmas, its 1AM right now and I am pissed as fuck.

(Please someone reply to this and they will get the secret behind this post)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 23, 2011, 12:11:07 AM
Rakumo Ran has just done something absolutely unforgivable. For 30 minutes straight has she exposed my mind to an untold level of completely unavoidable killbull. The final photo of 8-7 in Shoot the Bullet, you know - the gay inferior version of Double Spoiler which is a greater game by virtue of being easier and with less retardedass bullshit.

Ran's 8-5... ughh. Why the heck is it impossible to move through that wall! I know I can just move around the circle and dodge the bullets as I go but what If i by some mere chance doesn't the fuck feel like it?@!

Fuck Christmas, its 1AM right now and I am pissed as fuck.

(Please someone reply to this and they will get the secret behind this post)

Alright...

RAN WANTS ALL YO YENS. o/\o
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 23, 2011, 12:11:43 AM
Quote
(Please someone reply to this and they will get the secret behind this post)

Since I'm about to go to bed, why not. I liked 9.5, music never got old, too, despite taking more than 9000 photos for my first 9-6 clear, that's what you get for refusing to take photos from far away.

Regardless, are you playing Ultra again? Thought 8-5 was bad enough as it is, Aya's waaaay too fast for that. Now tell me what made you post this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 23, 2011, 12:57:39 AM
Regardless, are you playing Ultra again? Thought 8-5 was bad enough as it is

A bit yes and its fucking impossible. I have no clue why I am playing this fuckness. As for the backstory about how that post came to be;  While listening to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ltRbaFwuKY), a friend and me was playing Double Spoiler on each our laptops clearing high level scenes I got some manly tears about 8-5 out of my dude, that I really needed to make a parody of because I'm a troll like that.

I had no issues at all with 8-5. I died a few times but its not really that bad. As for 8-7, that attack my bitch. Seriously speaking, is there any smart trick you can do on the final phase other than stream and get lucky that Ran doesn't spawn stuff on your hitbox?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 23, 2011, 04:27:51 AM
Some 20-30 tries at MoF extra today, 4 got to Suwako.  I failed once each to her first 4 spells on those runs.
This is really getting on my nerves now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 23, 2011, 05:08:01 AM
Some 20-30 tries at MoF extra today, 4 got to Suwako.  I failed once each to her first 4 spells on those runs.
This is really getting on my nerves now.
If you're trying to perfect the stage (this applies especially with extras), my advice is to just try casualy a few times each day. Otherwise you end up sinking hours into it, often doing worse each time, and getting too much rage out of it. Suwako in particular, everything's easy until those suvivals right at the end.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 23, 2011, 05:13:13 AM
If you're trying to perfect the stage (this applies especially with extras), my advice is to just try casualy a few times each day. Otherwise you end up sinking hours into it, often doing worse each time, and getting too much rage out of it. Suwako in particular, everything's easy until those suvivals right at the end.
I'm doing better though, but I still can't get past that 4th spell today.  The couple days of no tries caused me to lose my touch on the stage, which now thankfully I've gotten back.

Anyway, it's messing up the easy stuff that gets on my nerves, my last 2 mistakes were to the opener and Jade of the Horrid River, which are the 2 hardest parts pre-Froggy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on December 23, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
This has been... the most hilariously sad run I've had of anything, ever. Just... wow (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17619).

For those of who you don't wish to facepalm to the replay, have a description:

Bomb Ran's non-spell even though I was going to get it. Bomb the barrage of fairies near the end. Get that last part down, something that has yet to happen. Get to Yuraki with 4 lives (and 0 bombs), something which has yet to happen.

Break a border on the first spell. Capture all the others. Break a border on her easiest non-spell (the one with two blue rings) just because I could. Die on Mesh of Light and Darkness due to laser misplacement, just before getting a bomb, which is "whatever".

Break a border and bomb her hardest non-spell (the one with green a blue waves). I should have 4L/2B now.

Now... for the fun part.

Finish Spiriting Away the very instance Yukari spawns on my hitbox. She gets her hitbox back. Death. Waste 2 bombs. Get a bomb, 3L/3B.

Got mislead in regards to the sound of the lasers changing in Zen Temple, making me go next to the edge of the screen before time, waiting for the red lasers to despawn. They do, a microsecond after hitting me. 2L/2B.

Attempt a border break on the following non-spell (with fast and slow green waves) just when the border is over and the bombs don't work. I die out of confusion. 1L/2B.

Bomb DBDB.

Bomb her streaming non-spell because I was pissed at the time and messed it up, even though I was going to make it anyway.

Pretty sure I got a bomb or two along the way. Whatever, lose any bombs I had to Shikigami Ran from an unseen blue butterfly two seconds before I capture it. 0L/2B.

Proceed to die on the first wave of the survival card because I fucking suck at it and, as can be understood, was pissed as all hell.

What?

I was supposed to get Yukari that time, but I guess she manipulated the border of fortune and misfortune or something because how I could not clear her up to now is beyond me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on December 24, 2011, 05:50:49 PM
DID THIS REALLY JUST HAPPEN?

THIS MEANS WAR, BYAKUREN. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17633)

(Failed a perfect fight on her last spell. With 0:00 seconds left. And this after I choked on the same card twice in a row.)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on December 24, 2011, 06:28:46 PM
I do not care Xmas eve dinner stop making me go back and forth and ruining my gameplay on PCB!!!!

Ragequit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiUzycgw8qM)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on December 24, 2011, 08:43:25 PM
Did I really just lose a perfect Miko to her last spellcard?

Just...fuck. And after one of the best dodges I've ever done, in the spellcard right before. You know, the one with actual difficulty in it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 25, 2011, 07:43:39 AM
I hate TD. It will be easy to 1cc, but I can hardly stand playing it. I was afraid of UFO before, but this is the true nightmare.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Lepetit89 on December 25, 2011, 10:28:31 AM
I hate TD. It will be easy to 1cc, but I can hardly stand playing it. I was afraid of UFO before, but this is the true nightmare.

I warned you! At least you can play, if I had to rage about something, it would be that I totally want to play TD because it's still rather new to me, only burned through Normal, Hard and Extra once each. Looking forward to it, but I can't play until January 2nd!

Either way, your avatar is mighty cute.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 25, 2011, 10:41:12 AM
I hate TD. It will be easy to 1cc, but I can hardly stand playing it. I was afraid of UFO before, but this is the true nightmare.

I get how you feel but you just gotta bite the bullet and keep going if you want all the 1cc's by your anniversary.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on December 25, 2011, 01:48:12 PM
Damnit, fuck you, Miko.

-1 choke to second spellcard
-4 chokes to third spellcard
-2 chokes to fourth spellcard
-5 chokes to nonspells
-1 choke to last spellcard
-0 chokes to first and sixth cards

Is it just me, or is there something horribly wrong with this picture?

The good news is that I actually did it, I actually perfected her after more tries than it took to perfect Utsuho. (yeah, seriously.) And then I realized I can't even find the replay to upload to prove that I did it. GAAAAAH.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 26, 2011, 03:24:07 AM
I get how you feel but you just gotta bite the bullet and keep going if you want all the 1cc's by your anniversary.
Yeah, I'm gonna try to finish it off tonight if I can, and then stay away from the game for a good long time. I'm kinda looking forward to those PC-98 games. At least they're interesting in a sadistic arcade game sort of way.
Either way, your avatar is mighty cute.
:D
I figured I should do something Christmas-like, so Acchan in winter clothing was what I decided on. :3 (Though it really has nothing to do with Christmas)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: GuppyForce on December 27, 2011, 01:56:06 PM
My laptop has overheated (or randomly blackscreened) at least 5 times today, and 2 or 3 of those times were is good (by my standards) Mamizou runs. What the hell.

And the most recent time it had an ice pack underneath -.-

Not to mention today is the first time in months it has done this shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 27, 2011, 03:31:54 PM
Why the hell is Ten Desires lunatic so impossible.
I could do Mountain of Faith perfectly fine, even EoSD I could dodge most of the stuff.
but Ten Desires I just die die die die trance stage for survival trance boss for survival bomb all of Kyouko's nonspells because screw them.

I'd also like to know why the hell I can wait more time to push X and deathbomb but not deathbomb when I push X faster.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on December 27, 2011, 04:06:01 PM
If you could do MoF and EoSD well then you should certainly be able to do TD easily as well. You're probably just lacking practice.
For Kyouko's non-spells, they aren't too bad. The first one is really evil unless you hide outside of the echo wall. Remain under Kyouko as long as you can and then head outside the borders and dodge the best you can. As for the 2nd, keep a close eye on the bullets coming from the bottom of the screen. Those are by far the most dangerous ones. If there are other things that are seriously troubling you, go to the help thread and enquire there.

Also, you shouldn't be insta-bombing things in a game with as few resources as this one. Instead, keep practicing it until you can do it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on December 27, 2011, 06:19:03 PM
^ seconded
It's actually okay to bomb 1 or 2 of Kyouko's attacks. Just don't autobomb everything, or else you run out of resources quickly.
The thing is though, unlock all the stage practice and practice the hell out of them.
You need to do most of the stages within ND1B if you are having that much trouble with the bosses.
Plus, you need resources, which means planning out your stage route to trance as many life/bomb fairies as possible.
Sometimes this means bombing Kogasa for extra fairies for example, or bomb instead of trancing in the middle of stage 4.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 27, 2011, 08:32:38 PM
Bombing Kyouku actually helps with the trance path in stage 3, the way I did it at least. Tojiko's another good one to bomb if you need more trance before the huge spam at the end of stage 5.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on December 28, 2011, 06:40:56 AM
Okay seriously Marine Benefit, what the hell, was that stage 1 midboss card on Hard playtested? Like, at all?

Really, my capture rate on that thing is 1/19, and let me repeat for emphasis: this is a STAGE 1 MIDBOSS CARD. And the one capture was total luck, too. Is it just me, or is there something seriously wrong with that?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 28, 2011, 07:02:36 AM
Just remember why I started avoiding MoF ultra mode.
Because going in, 6-7 of your 8 lives are called, 4 by Kanako, 1 by midboss Sanae and 1 by Aya, and probably one by endboss Sanae though she's technically no-deathable, but that postpones the death to Stage 6 beginning.  Oh, and the 8th life is called by Stage 4.
SO, to clear (which I know I can) I need to successfully no death Stage 3.

But seriously, MoF ultra is BS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 28, 2011, 06:53:20 PM
"Hooray, I got Imperishable Night! Let's start the game right away!" *chooses Border Team*
"This looks pretty cool. Okay, there are a lot of point items, I should probably go to get them." *runs to the top and focuses*
*WRIGGLE KICK*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 28, 2011, 08:03:26 PM
*WRIGGLE KICK*
Closest I've come to that is a Kogasa kick in Ten Desires, on hard.  Because who knew she recentered going into her spell?
I always PoC before Wriggle on the right side of the screen, since she enters mid-left it prevents it from ever happening.

FIFTEEN HUNDRED PICTURES ON DS 9-7, STILL HAVEN'T WON.  THIS IS STUPID.
DS 9-7 is pure stupidity as far as I can tell. You only need three pictures, so just keep trying until you win.
great advice(sarcasm), though the part I bolded is true.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 29, 2011, 02:52:58 AM
Closest I've come to that is a Kogasa kick in Ten Desires, on hard.  Because who knew she recentered going into her spell?
I always PoC before Wriggle on the right side of the screen, since she enters mid-left it prevents it from ever happening.

I forgot about Wriggle Kick until I was at the top of the screen and by then it was too late to go back so I died. It was embarrassing.


Also Flaw of Forgiving Shrine.
Stop killing me twice in my runs and then being piss easy in spell practice.
seriously
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 29, 2011, 03:10:59 AM
There is a cheese strat for FoFS, sit in the top left corner and stay overtop the familiars.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 29, 2011, 04:01:40 AM
I've captured it like that before, but never afterwards. I always seem to get randomly killed by a stray bullet.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 29, 2011, 05:04:50 AM
I've captured it like that before, but never afterwards. I always seem to get randomly killed by a stray bullet.
The trick is to stay on the left wall the entire time, and adjust your vertical position to be on top of the familiars.
Works with everyone except solo Youmu, Sakuya and Marisa.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: GuppyForce on December 30, 2011, 02:23:56 PM
My laptop has overheated (or randomly blackscreened) at least 5 times today, and 2 or 3 of those times were is good (by my standards) Mamizou runs. What the hell.

And the most recent time it had an ice pack underneath -.-

Not to mention today is the first time in months it has done this shit.
And now it overheats despite it being 7cm hovering over the ground when you play Touhou for maybe 5-10 minutes (or watch videos for an hour). The fan's probably broken.

Most recently, all sound and music stopped working for it, both with and without earphones plugged in.

This sucks
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on December 30, 2011, 03:22:12 PM
Mima. That is all.
(Time to start memorizing :derp:)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 30, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
I was trying to beat Lunatic in IN with Reimu Solo, thinking that you had to do it to unlock SFN. Then I looked back and realised I had been combining two different ways - the way to unlock Blazing Star (beat Hard or Lunatic with Reimu Solo) and SFN (beat Lunatic, continue or character doesn't matter). So I just wasted time and got annoyed about Reimu over nothing.
On the bright side I can use Remilia Solo for Lunatic now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 30, 2011, 06:49:35 PM
I was trying to beat Lunatic in IN with Reimu Solo, thinking that you had to do it to unlock SFN. Then I looked back and realised I had been combining two different ways - the way to unlock Blazing Star (beat Hard or Lunatic with Reimu Solo) and SFN (beat Lunatic, continue or character doesn't matter). So I just wasted time and got annoyed about Reimu over nothing.
On the bright side I can use Remilia Solo for Lunatic now.
I wouldn't suggest using a solo character for lunatic, although Remilia is probably one of the better choices for that.  Personally I'd use Border Team if you're confident in stages and Ghost Team if you're not.  Youmu's bomb cuts through spellcards pretty well, and Yuyuko's bomb is deadly point blank.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on December 30, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
Haha yeah, I forgot you didn't have to use a solo character. I'll probably use the Netherworld Team because I got my first 1cc with them and I find them easier to use than the Border Team.
edit:
asklfjsdlrthgklerht
01 seconds
01 SECONDS FOR HOURAI ELIXIR
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
edit: Just lost another at 11 seconds. And now I keep dying to the first and red phases.
no motivation argh
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 30, 2011, 10:28:52 PM
Haha yeah, I forgot you didn't have to use a solo character. I'll probably use the Netherworld Team because I got my first 1cc with them and I find them easier to use than the Border Team.
edit:
asklfjsdlrthgklerht
01 seconds
01 SECONDS FOR HOURAI ELIXIR
Yay another Ghost Team user, there aren't enough of those.
You can fail at 00 seconds left, be glad it hasn't happened yet.  Just keep trying, you've made quick progress getting to this point, you can do it!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on December 31, 2011, 03:55:47 PM
SERIOUSLY, YUKARI?!

THIS MEANS FUCKING WAR. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/index.php?u=Esupanitix&g=--&p=&t=--&d=--&ch=0)

It's generally toward the end of the replay. Basically, I come so close to capturing Border of Life and Death. SO FUCKING CLOSE. But I either die or bomb, can't remember which.

AND THEN. AND THEN. I LOSE BOTH OF MY SPARE LIVES ON DANMAKU BOUNDED FIELD IN AN ATTEMPT TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE IT. FUCK. I STILL BEAT IT BUT THIS WAS WORSE THAN MY REIMU-B RUN. MOTHER OF FUCK. If you can't tell, I'M FUCKING MAD.

I'M GONNA KILL YOU YUKARI I DON'T CARE IF YOU CAN'T KILL A SPIRIT I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL YOOOOOOOUUUUUU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on December 31, 2011, 04:50:08 PM
FUUUUUUUUUCK

FUCK YOU SHOU, FUCK YOU 7-1, FUCK YOU DOUBLE SPOILER, FUCK YOU AYA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

EDIT: I apologize for my overuse of capslock, but to tell the truth that stupid fucking cat that ISN'T CHEN IS DRIVING ME FUCKING NUTS!

CURVY LASERS~ CURVY FUCKING LASERS WITH TRAJECTORIES THAT I CAN'T FUCKING TELL BECAUSE THEY CURVE SO UNPREDICTABLY WITH NO GOD DAMN PATTERN~ OH HOW FUN THEY ARE TO DODGE

HOW FUCKING FUN. I've had an easier time trying to beat KOISHI ON FUCKING ULTRA! WITHOUT DYING OR BOMBING!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 31, 2011, 08:54:19 PM
I'd think said cat that is not Chen would be Orin, not Shou.

Also, I get a really good no focus run of EoSD extra, no deaths on the stage...capture Flandre's first 2 spells...and proceed to die to Four of a Kind.  Not a big deal, right?  Then I die again.  Run over.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on December 31, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
Protip: Try to go for score while doing a survival run for the sake of lives.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on December 31, 2011, 11:16:27 PM
Protip: Try to go for score while doing a survival run for the sake of lives.
Doesn't apply for the extra stage, there are 2 extra lives: Patchy's and the last fairy at the end of the stage drops the other.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on December 31, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
So I've been trying to time out Phoenix Tail from the top of the screen because I'm about as bright as Cirno.

How has this been going, you ask?

(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/mokoucap.jpg)

Enough said, really.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on December 31, 2011, 11:46:11 PM
So I've been trying to time out Phoenix Tail from the top of the screen because I'm about as bright as Cirno.

How has this been going, you ask?


Enough said, really.

Out of curiosity why are you in such an awkward position? xD

anyway, Derpiest day ever, couldn't even do hard mode in TD, perhaps that rust is building up again! Thats 3 days straight without Touhou.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 01, 2012, 01:21:46 AM
Out of curiosity why are you in such an awkward position? xD
Because if I'm at the top of the screen my history will be faded out. I was only there to take the screencap.

The worst part is that it seems like it's actually possible, since I've gotten down as far as 18 seconds remaining once. So my competitive nature will not let this rest until it's done, no matter how pointless.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 01, 2012, 01:30:55 AM
Shouldn't it be easier than timing it out at the bottom? Seems like the bullets travel further before reaching you.
EDIT: Hehe... nevermind. It's actually much different.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 01, 2012, 02:20:48 AM
FUCK YOU FLANDRE YOU AND YOUR STUPID GOD DAMN MAZE OF LOVE, THE CLOCKWISE PHASE ALWAYS FUCKING KILLS MY LAST GOD DAMN LIFE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 01, 2012, 09:14:47 AM
I can barely get past Stage 4 on TD Hard now without suffering from too many dumb deaths when I can usually get to Stage 6 without too much trouble
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 01, 2012, 03:50:42 PM
0/174 now. In one attempt, I get to 17 seconds left when my computer suddenly decides it would be the perfect time for a massive lag spike.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Raikaria on January 01, 2012, 05:58:14 PM
TD Stage 6.

7 bombs
3 lives
Almost another bomb.

I seem to forget the bomb button exists, as I keep dying. I ended up using two bombs, and game overing on the knife nonspell with 6 bombs in stock. I really suck against Miko, to be fair, but I would have only needed bombs for her final two spells beyond that. ~_~
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 01, 2012, 06:53:14 PM
Youmu, your Last Word is weird. All the shiny cherry petals make it so I can't see where I'm going and something I didn't notice hits me because it was camoflaged. Also I can't get used to the freaking slowdown on this thing. And why do my family always think it's the right time to ask me a question when Youmu has barely any health left? Sheesh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 01, 2012, 07:53:50 PM
NO NO FUCK FUCK NO FUCK NO NO FUCK NO FUCK FUCK NO FUCK NO NO FUCK NO NO NO FUCK NO NO. THIS MEANS WAR, BYAKUREN. THIS MEANS FUCKING WAR.

I HATE YOU BYAKUREN I FUCKING HATE YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE. I WAS DOING SO WELL, MY HEART WAS POUNDING AND I WAS THINKING THAT I WAS GOING TO WIN, BUT NOPE. CHUCK FUCKING TESTA. YOU FUCKING KILLED ME ON FLYING FANTASTICA WHEN YOU HAD A SLIVER OF HEALTH LEFT.

Wanna know how much I hate Touhou 12 compared to the other games, just for its STUPID FUCKING UFO GIMMICK FOR LIVES AND BOMBS?! IT JUST PISSES ME OFF HOW MY OCD WILL TEAR THE FUCK OUT OF MY SANITY IF I DO ONE SINGLE FUCKING UFO WRONG BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT I'LL HAVE "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT IF I NEED A BOMB/LIFE LATER?!" RUNNING THROUGH MY GOD DAMN HEAD ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE FUCKING FIFTH STAGE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY NEED A FUCKING HIGH STOCK OF BOMBS AND LIVES. SHOU RIVALS ORIN FOR THE HARDEST FUCKING STAGE 5 BOSS IN THE SERIES (AND DON'T GET ME FUCKING STARTED WITH THOSE FUCKING CURVING LASERS SHE HAS FOR EVERY FUCKING NONSPELL AND CARD IN DOUBLE SPOILER). HELL, IT'S NOT JUST ORIN. COMPARED TO THE PRISMRIVER SISTERS, MURASA IS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING CLUSTERFUCK! DURING THIS FUCKING RUN THAT MADE ME BLOW MY TOP OFF, I WENT FROM EIGHT SPARE LIVES TO BARELY TWO BECAUSE I HAD TO SNEEZE WHILE PLAYING. THIS GAME, COMPARED TO PCB, IN, AND ARGUABLY EVEN SUBTERRANEAN ANIMISM, IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING UNFORGIVING AND UNFORGIVABLE. IT'S AS IF ZUN DECIDED TO SHOVE ROTTEN EGGS, ONE GRAM OF SKUNK MUSK, AND CITRIC ACID (That stuff inside Oranges and lemons) INTO A MIXING BOWL AND BLEND THE FUCK OUT OF IT, THEN POUR IT INTO THE PLAYER'S EYES AND EXPECT THEM TO DODGE BULLETS, THE VOLATILE MIXTURE REPRESENTING THE DISTRACTING FUCKING UFOS AND OVERDOSE OF BULLETS. BY THE FUCKING WAY, THE STAGES I HATE MOST ARE 4 AND 5 BECAUSE I SWEAR THEY ARE PURPOSELY DESIGNED TO MAKE YOU SHIT BRICKS AND SWEAR AND LOSE ALL OF YOUR GOD DAMN LIVES AND BOMBS.
(http://myfacewhen.com/images/342.png)
HATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATE
That's fucking it Byakuren I'm going to come to your house and I'm going to beat the living god damn shit out of you until you cry and then I'm going to shove your head in a garbage disposal and then I'm going to nurse you back to health as soon as you're close to dying and I'm going to torture you in the worst ways possible before crucifying you and laughing maniacally as I pound each rusty iron nail into your hands and feet and I will sit there and watch you suffer as you have made me suffer, only difference being my anguish was mental, yours will be physical.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 01, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
^ Now that is what I call rage.

For what it's worth I've long since stopped playing UFO for pretty much exactly your reasons. Hell, I haven't even installed it on my new comp. So yeah, I feel your pain. All I can say is, try playing a Touhou that isn't made of pure evil, like Imperishable N...oh wait...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 01, 2012, 08:25:42 PM
Wanna know how much I hate Touhou 12 compared to the other games, just for its STUPID FUCKING UFO GIMMICK FOR LIVES AND BOMBS?!
 I HATE IT SO FUCKING MUCH THAT IT HAS STARTED A TUMOR IN MY HEAD THAT I HAVE NAMED UTSUHO BECAUSE FUCK NO I AM NOT NAMING ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ME AFTER A TOUHOU 12 CHARACTER. THE ONLY TOUHOU 12 CHARACTER I ENJOY IS MINAMITSU MURASA AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE SHE HAS THE MOST FUCKING AWESOME THEME SONG EVER. I FUCKING HATE THE UFO GIMMICK, I HATE SHOU TORAMARU.

Stop. You asked whether or not we wanted to hear why you hate it. Not which parts of it you hate. Reasons broski. Please. Or else your rage post just isn't that awesome. You need to either go total troll or manly tears. :)


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HATE HOW MOST OF THE SHOT TYPES ARE SHITTY AND PISS ME OFF WHEN I USE THEM

How most of the shot types are shitty, yeah try using the ones that aren't shitty. :trollface:

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OH GOD DON'T GET ME STARTED ON STAGES 4 AND 5, ALSO KNOWN AS BOMB FUCKING CENTRAL. I BLOW OUT HALF OF MY RESOURCES IN THAT STAGE ALONE.

'That stage'? Surely you mean 'those stages. :trollface:

- Well, okay. Here's some constructive advice because I feel that you are suffering from UFO hate much like I was some time ago. The only remedy is to keep practicing it and getting better. Sooner or later you'll improve enough to finally conquer the game and it will be very satisfying regardless of how you feel about it now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 01, 2012, 08:29:57 PM
Play 1 difficulty higher.  Rage at that for a while.  Go back down.  Marvel at how easy it is in comparison, until you reach the part you could reach on the higher difficulty, at which point you may commence the bombspam.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 01, 2012, 11:56:26 PM
I don't care if people discount me for pretty much acting like Touhou 12 doesn't exist, I just despise its methods of giving lives and bombs. It's not worth it to get 2/5 of a life and end up losing a bomb/full life in the process.
Stop. You asked whether or not we wanted to hear why you hate it. Not which parts of it you hate. Reasons broski. Please. Or else your rage post just isn't that awesome. You need to either go total troll or manly tears. :)

 
How most of the shot types are shitty, yeah try using the ones that aren't shitty. :trollface:

'That stage'? Surely you mean 'those stages. :trollface:

- Well, okay. Here's some constructive advice because I feel that you are suffering from UFO hate much like I was some time ago. The only remedy is to keep practicing it and getting better. Sooner or later you'll improve enough to finally conquer the game and it will be very satisfying regardless of how you feel about it now.


1. I was saying what I thought about the god damn game. The reason I play it is because I was giving the game MANY FUCKING CHANCES to redeem itself. You can tell when a game is irritatingly hard when you memorize the fucking STAGE THEMES, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

2. I said most of them are shitty. These would be Sanae's Homing Snakes, Marisa's Shortwave, SOMETIMES the fucking lasers, and of course Homing Reimu. The problem is that I'm best at dodging with Marisa (I don't know why, fast dodging is easy for me. I play DoDonPachi every now and then), and both Reimu and Sanae have their own problems. Reimu for one, is just... I don't know, the speed's just weird the way I see. Her needle type shot is awesome, but you need to be able to dodge easily. Sanae's Spread Frogs... Sanae's a little slippery to control, but her frogs go everywhere and are moderately strong, yet I still fucking suck with them. With Marisa, I can dodge like nothing. Problem is, I suck at aiming with Marisa for just why I like her: She's fast.

3. Yeah, I looked over my rage a little and inserted a bit more but didn't correct all of the grammar. Whoopsies on my part. Also, you forgot an apostrophe in that second quote.

4. Yeeeah, UFO was my second Touhou game. I've played it since what, 2010? Trust me, I may hate it but that doesn't mean that I don't play it like it's Minecraft.

Play 1 difficulty higher.  Rage at that for a while.  Go back down.  Marvel at how easy it is in comparison, until you reach the part you could reach on the higher difficulty, at which point you may commence the bombspam.

To tell the truth Hard Mode UFO is fucking hell for me because I have UFO plans for every level and OCD to accompany me. Lunatic... *shudder* EoSD ULTRA IS MORE DOABLE FOR ME.

And you know what guys, I'll give UFO a chance or two more (Probably because I'm as addicted to Touhou as I hate UFO) but I'll try as Marisa. I will grow a fucking pair and use those god damn lasers and I will like it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 02, 2012, 12:17:02 AM
One more thing, if you can't collect a UFO without getting your self killed, don't. Its probably better for you to only pick up UFO's if they are easy to get. Oh and memorizing songs due to practice is a natural thing. How much do you actually practice?

Also. If I read your post correctly, you are playing the game fairly much even if you don't like it. What I did back when I had a beef with the game was to seek 1cc's of other games instead. DoDonPachi as you mention is great fun. 1cc'd that? If not, then give UFO a break and work on DDP a bit instead. Other Cave games are also good. UFO isn't my favorite mechanic either no, in fact, it causes me to screw very simple things up. However, I stopped hating the system when I stopped going agressively for the UFO's and started looking at UFO like it was a Cave game in which anything beyond 5 lives is to be considered very generous. Playing with that mind set made the UFO system less irritating. As in, instead of the game handing out 1ups like candy, I get them as bonuses if I do something awesome that I can skip doing if it becomes to dangerous.

Also. Play SanaeB for christ sake. SanaeB is excellent for 1cc'ing since you can bomb, fly around the screen and pick up UFO's and summon it when the bomb clears away. Really effective.

Note that this post isn't some scolding or anything. You can think whatever you like about UFO obviously but if you are still playing it from time to time then you should keep my advice in mind. I have been through the same process after all.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 01:29:14 AM
Tried Laser-Type Marisa. Here is my current mindset.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFJHWILGHWEQILGHEGLEWHGLIEGTKWEHGIOLEWHTIKWH#$I#$Y#$@(TUY#$PIOT@#$HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPLIOGHEOILGHWERIOLGHWERIOLGERYGKHWRYHIWDRNGOIERYHG^Y##$&@#$(&@(^Y@#$IONJRWEGT#$(THLKIGWER(OT$#NGOWERYGTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Now, I've tried SanaeB repeatedly. Sometimes I just hate her. For some reason, most shot types everyone uses the fuck out of, I don't even want to touch because of how bad I am. Examples: Reimu A from SA. SHE'S TOO SLOW. Reimu C from SA. TOO FAST. Marisa A from SA. NO. Reimu B from PCB. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE.

I WILL try your method of ignoring the damn UFOs after 5 lives and 5 bombs but Shou will make me hate deciding to do that, likely. (Then again, a life is essentially three trump cards in one: One hit and two bombs, which may make this work out.)

Also, to be fair, I did do the same as you when I had a beef with this game (http://replays.gensokyou.org/index.php?u=Esupanitix&g=--&p=&t=--&d=--&ch=0). I've 1cc'd 6, 7, 8 (Fucking sucked at that run, that's why it's not on my channel), 10, and 13 all on Normal difficulty, and beat the Extra and Phantasm Stages of 7, But I will not move up to Hard until I beat Subterranean Animism (Orin and Utsuho FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU) and beat UFO (SHOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU). If I can't beat those, I'm not really a Normal Ace (Yes, I have multiple rankings for players based on most commonly played difficulty and how good they are at it) until I can do proficiently at all of the Windows games. Touhou 2 can go fuck itself because it doesn't allow focusing and can't be a real danmaku game because there isn't exactly much shit on screen to dodge. I'll play Hard and Lunatic every now and then just to see how proficient I am altogether.

About how much I actually practice, it depends on the game. This is gameplay time, not time I sit around in the menu.
EoSD   |    About 100 hours
PCB     |    Almost 57 hours (I got my copy to work again recently)
IN        |    654.05 hours.
MoF     |   20.31666666... hours.
SA        |   17.61666666... hours.
UFO     |   15.2 hours.
GFW    |    4.7 hours.
TD        |   25.2 hours.
Total    |   894.09 hours, or 53,645 minutes and 24 seconds approximately (rounding up those nonterminating decimals to .32 and .62).

I was eleven when I started this stuff, so I fooled around like a moron on Hard. It took me until I was almost 13 to get a brain and start pacing myself with Easy and Normal modes.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 02, 2012, 01:35:48 AM
I'm pretty sure laser-Marisa is one of the worst possible choices. The glowing options prevent you from seeing right in front of you, and the bomb paralyzes you completely. Trust Zengeku and just use SanaeB if you don't want to kill yourself with rage.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2012, 02:02:46 AM
Ahem.

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It's not worth it to get 2/5 of a life and end up losing a bomb/full life in the process.

Yes, exactly. It's not worth it. Just as it is not always worth it to grab every single UFO just because it's part of your chain. In fact, you would be amazed how much farther your resources can take you if you hold off on chaining entirely. Doesn't mean you can ignore it, not by a long shot, but you should plan out a general and flexible UFO route for resource gaining. Yes, this means memorizing what color UFOs come out from what enemies, but this really isn't any more painful than memorizing any other part of the stage.

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You can tell when a game is irritatingly hard when you memorize the fucking STAGE THEMES, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

I know this will sound condescending, but that's the kind of series Touhou is, and you need to get used to it if you want to get better. In fact, ideally you will use the stage themes to orient yourself as to what is coming up. There is not a single stage in the series that doesn't have a music cue to let you know when something is coming up.

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2. I said most of them are shitty. These would be Sanae's Homing Snakes, Marisa's Shortwave, SOMETIMES the fucking lasers, and of course Homing Reimu. The problem is that I'm best at dodging with Marisa (I don't know why, fast dodging is easy for me. I play DoDonPachi every now and then), and both Reimu and Sanae have their own problems. Reimu for one, is just... I don't know, the speed's just weird the way I see. Her needle type shot is awesome, but you need to be able to dodge easily. Sanae's Spread Frogs... Sanae's a little slippery to control, but her frogs go everywhere and are moderately strong, yet I still fucking suck with them. With Marisa, I can dodge like nothing. Problem is, I suck at aiming with Marisa for just why I like her: She's fast.

This is really up to your preference, but I can tell you from experience that Reimu's speed is more than adequate for dodging anything in the game. Not only that, but she has the benefit of a smaller hitbox - something that is really useful in UFO, due to the unforgiving hitboxes of the most commonly used bullets. If you're using Marisa, it may take some time to get used to her, but I guarantee you'll be seeing results of some kind if you stick with Reimu A (or even Reimu B).

Yes, UFO is difficult. Out of the main shooters, it is definitely the most difficult in terms of danmaku. However, it is far from impossible. Whether you like the UFO system or not, it is important to play by the rules of the game, while also mastering it. Watch replays. Study them, and see how they collect UFOs. If you play your spell cards right, you can have as much of a margin of error as 14 deaths, and gather enough bombs to cheese Byakuren entirely.

Of course, if you don't want to play UFO, then that's that. You shouldn't play a game that you don't like unless you've got some big mission. But, if you are willing to overcome this challenge, we will be at your service. o> Just know that you will need to be more specific with your problems than "AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH."
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 02:19:16 AM
Ahem.

1. Yes, exactly. It's not worth it. Just as it is not always worth it to grab every single UFO just because it's part of your chain. In fact, you would be amazed how much farther your resources can take you if you hold off on chaining entirely. Doesn't mean you can ignore it, not by a long shot, but you should plan out a general and flexible UFO route for resource gaining. Yes, this means memorizing what color UFOs come out from what enemies, but this really isn't any more painful than memorizing any other part of the stage.

2. I know this will sound condescending, but that's the kind of series Touhou is, and you need to get used to it if you want to get better. In fact, ideally you will use the stage themes to orient yourself as to what is coming up. There is not a single stage in the series that doesn't have a music cue to let you know when something is coming up.

3. This is really up to your preference, but I can tell you from experience that Reimu's speed is more than adequate for dodging anything in the game. Not only that, but she has the benefit of a smaller hitbox - something that is really useful in UFO, due to the unforgiving hitboxes of the most commonly used bullets. If you're using Marisa, it may take some time to get used to her, but I guarantee you'll be seeing results of some kind if you stick with Reimu A (or even Reimu B).

4. Yes, UFO is difficult. Out of the main shooters, it is definitely the most difficult in terms of danmaku. However, it is far from impossible. Whether you like the UFO system or not, it is important to play by the rules of the game, while also mastering it. Watch replays. Study them, and see how they collect UFOs. If you play your spell cards right, you can have as much of a margin of error as 14 deaths, and gather enough bombs to cheese Byakuren entirely.

Of course, if you don't want to play UFO, then that's that. You shouldn't play a game that you don't like unless you've got some big mission. But, if you are willing to overcome this challenge, we will be at your service. o>

1. I go nuts over resources because I'm a paranoid little bitch in these games. If I lose resources in Stages 1 or 2 (For some games, 3), I flip out and restart the game. For this game, I decided to set major resource limits. If I miss, say, two bombs or lose a life or two unfairly (As in clipping ftl), I will restart. However that rule is nulled once I hit Stage 4.

2. Yes, I know this. The problem with this game in particular I've memorized the themes so well that when I hear the songs outside of a Touhou game, I imagine every single god damn track of the MIDI file. And I swear to god if you even mention At the End of Spring (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeTleYgxvjA) to me, I will flip out and start raging like a rabid teddy bear. For some reason I STILL FUCKING ENJOY NAZRIN'S THEME.

3. Oh trust me, I use a controller, and I suck with a keyboard. My controller's really good for dodging but occasionally my thumb slips and makes the character run smack dab into the bullet anyway. Most of the reason I hate Reimu A and B in this game is because for A, I'm sick of the fucking needles (THOSE SHADES OF YELLOW AND ORANGE ARE BURNED INTO MY RETINAS), and for B, I just hate Homing Amulet Type Reimu. She's just never fun (ESPECIALLY in SA, where they go through the enemies, making me feel like they're not doing anything). Plus, when I'm trying to tell a UFO to fuck off and give me my resources, Reimu's attacking a fairy.

4. ...I never thought of that. I feel so stupid! I mean seriously what part of me denied looking at the damn replays?!

Thank you for the advice.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 02, 2012, 02:43:14 AM
Can I also point out that there's nothing wrong with bombing before stage 4? I'm pretty sure when I did Lunatic I bombed all of Kogasa and Ichirin's spells (not to mention all of the spells for the rest of the game as well). Kogasa's first spell in particular is demonic if you don't safespot it.
And as for using a controller, I've never tried it, and I know some people use them, but... they sound dubious to me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 02:54:14 AM
Can I also point out that there's nothing wrong with bombing before stage 4?
For Touhou 12, I don't bomb before stage 3. Stage 3 I can take because Ichirin's last spell is a fucking asshole.

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I'm pretty sure when I did Lunatic I bombed all of Kogasa and Ichirin's spells (not to mention all of the spells for the rest of the game as well).
I will just not accept that. If I can't go without bombing repeatedly before Stage 3/4 (Depending on game), I say fuck it.

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Kogasa's first spell in particular is demonic if you don't safespot it.
If midboss spell, I could do that even on Lunatic. If regular fight, yeah I just say fuck it on Lunatic.

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And as for using a controller, I've never tried it, and I know some people use them, but... they sound dubious to me.
It depends on the controller, really. Do NOT use an Xbox 360 controller for Touhou, it is the most shitty thing to use for Touhou because of the analog stick's uneven structure, being smooth in parts and stiff in others.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2012, 03:15:09 AM
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I will just not accept that. If I can't go without bombing repeatedly before Stage 3/4 (Depending on game), I say fuck it.

I was going to stay quiet about it, but I'm afraid I must insist that you desist that mindset. UFO is not the game to let pride control your actions. It is quite likely your frustrations stem from the conditions you just described. I've had utterly terrible runs that still reach Shou, and that's because I kept going forward despite everything. Now, stage 1 I can understand, but Kogasa is the hardest stage 2 boss in the series; it will take a lot more than swearing to get past her consistently without dying or bombing.

In general, you should make it a habit to never restart after stage 2. Many fine things have bad starts that are made up for later, and repeating the same two or three stages is terribly stressful. You'll have more fun and make more progress if you see every run through to the end.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 02, 2012, 03:28:47 AM
It depends on the controller Do NOT use an Xbox 360 controller for Touhou. It is the most shitty thing to use for Touhou because of the analog stick's uneven structure, being smooth in parts and stiff in others.
Well, my personal impression is that no matter how skilled a player is, using a controller has certain limitations. For example, while moving to the right, I can press the left arrow without even letting go of the right one to get a near instantaneous change in direction. (This can screw me up in PC-98 where holding both arrows makes you stop moving, but that's another matter). I'd think that the kind of control you get with a keyboard would be humanly impossible with a controller, what with managing all directions with one thumb, so you might want to give the keyboard another try. (Of course I'm just speculating, as I said I've never tried a controller ::))

Also I support what Donut said.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 02, 2012, 03:48:44 AM
I'm pretty sure laser-Marisa is one of the worst possible choices. The glowing options prevent you from seeing right in front of you, and the bomb paralyzes you completely. Trust Zengeku and just use SanaeB if you don't want to kill yourself with rage.
Time to play Devil's Advocate: my first UFO normal 1cc was with MarisaA.  It was an AWFUL run, but somehow I managed (2 bomb Flying Fantastica when I'd failed with 2 lives in stock before).  HOWEVER, I still suggest SanaeB because of my hard mode experiences.

I've used a controller before and a keyboard allows more precise movements and also faster turnarounds.  Also I kept moving diagonally when I meant to move straight.  and bombing is harder.  I can do IN hard in my sleep, but barely managed a 1cc on a controller.

On what donut said about lives in UFO, I cleared the game without bombing on a horrible run.  14 deaths, 2 lives to spare, and I could have gotten one more life.  Also, red UFOs give 2/4 of a life, and greens 1 1/3 of a bomb.

When I beat UFO hard I was happy to avoid a death before the end of Stage 2, and psyched if I didn't die until Ichirin.

Oh, and SA shot types?  ReimuA/ReimuC tie as my favorite.

If I haven't uploaded my UFO no bomb run to gensoyko.org I should do that, wither way I'm linking to it here.

no bombs normal: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17818
hard mode: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=16583
first normal 1cc: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17819  (don't do this)

EDIT: something about Ten Desires makes me start sucking.  I just double KOed the Stage  midboss but miraculously deathbombed, then double KOed Yuyuko's opener.  Try again, die to Yuyuko's opener.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 10:35:24 AM
I was going to stay quiet about it, but I'm afraid I must insist that you desist that mindset. UFO is not the game to let pride control your actions. It is quite likely your frustrations stem from the conditions you just described. I've had utterly terrible runs that still reach Shou, and that's because I kept going forward despite everything. Now, stage 1 I can understand, but Kogasa is the hardest stage 2 boss in the series; it will take a lot more than swearing to get past her consistently without dying or bombing.

In general, you should make it a habit to never restart after stage 2. Many fine things have bad starts that are made up for later, and repeating the same two or three stages is terribly stressful. You'll have more fun and make more progress if you see every run through to the end.

Yeah, I see where you're getting at. It wasn't until recently that I could perfect Kogasa on Normal. However, I've gone runs in UFO without dying until stage 4, and runs where I just refused to bomb. One of these was my Easy 1cc. I really... Basically, I upload my replays to YouTube if they're massive achievements like 1cc runs, Extra Clears, etc. and I don't want to look stupid. Given, I REALLY enjoy these games, but I don't want to look stupid (Then again, that big rage post earlier kinda throws that ideal out the window) by dying or bombing in an early stage. The only public exception is when I said fuck it while doing a run of EoSD when I died on Stage 3 FUCKING TWICE and in that run was my first Normal 1cc, and I still had a spare life left when I defeated Remilia. I bombed through Red Magic but clearly I don't give a shit.

1. Time to play Devil's Advocate: my first UFO normal 1cc was with MarisaA.  It was an AWFUL run, but somehow I managed (2 bomb Flying Fantastica when I'd failed with 2 lives in stock before).  HOWEVER, I still suggest SanaeB because of my hard mode experiences.

2. I've used a controller before and a keyboard allows more precise movements and also faster turnarounds.  Also I kept moving diagonally when I meant to move straight.  and bombing is harder.  I can do IN hard in my sleep, but barely managed a 1cc on a controller.

3. On what donut said about lives in UFO, I cleared the game without bombing on a horrible run.  14 deaths, 2 lives to spare, and I could have gotten one more life.  Also, red UFOs give 2/4 of a life, and greens 1 1/3 of a bomb.

When I beat UFO hard I was happy to avoid a death before the end of Stage 2, and psyched if I didn't die until Ichirin.

Oh, and SA shot types?  ReimuA/ReimuC tie as my favorite.

1. Yeah, I like Laser Type because it makes item collection and vertical enemy placement a breeze to rush through. I'm rather good with SanaeB, but to tell the truth I'm downright awful when it comes to leveling out my sanity as her. I've gotten full stocks of lives and bombs that I've gone nuts in Stage 5 over and blown the rest out in stage 6. I've gotten eight lives and bombs in Stage 4, ending out with absolutely no shit to defend myself on stage 6. See how much I suck at 4 and 5? Speaking of 5, I can't capture some cards and I just use the good ol' FiB (Fuck it Bomb, or "Fuck it, Bomb"). One example is that one card where the two lightsaber things spin around and position themselves on where you are at certain parts (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Undefined_Fantastic_Object/Spell_Cards/Stage_5#Spell_Card_71) and to tell the truth I fucking hate it. If I absolutely can't find a way, expect me in the Spell Card Help section.

2. I use a controller that's actually kinda special. it's firm and responsive to everything, and since I absolutely suck with a keyboard (I'm sooner to learn Calculus in the tenth grade than 1cc something with a keyboard), a controller's really good for me. I can do only seven-pixel dodges with a keyboard, but I've managed two to three pixel streaming with a controller.

3. Uh, no. I've played the game long enough to tell you that Red UFOs give off 2/5 of a life and 1/5 when killed on the spot, and Green UFOs give off 1 1/3 of a Bomb if they're filled, just 1/3 if they aren't. You were right about the greens, but I've had tons of dying and game overs because I thought I'd get a life after two red UFOs. And yes, I filled/cleared both of the UFOs.

Well, my personal impression is that no matter how skilled a player is, using a controller has certain limitations. For example, while moving to the right, I can press the left arrow without even letting go of the right one to get a near instantaneous change in direction. (This can screw me up in PC-98 where holding both arrows makes you stop moving, but that's another matter). I'd think that the kind of control you get with a keyboard would be humanly impossible with a controller, what with managing all directions with one thumb, so you might want to give the keyboard another try. (Of course I'm just speculating, as I said I've never tried a controller ::))

Also I support what Donut said.

I tried the fucking keyboard, and it pretty much disables me from grazing for score alone. I don't like using the keyboard much, but I'll keep trying.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 02, 2012, 10:47:50 AM
Each pink star is 1/4 of a life. Also, reds are the better choice of UFO in my opinion, as they give more total resources, and you can't lose lives without using them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 10:57:56 AM
...What? What the hell, I've always seen two Red UFOs drop not a full life, but 4/5 of it at the most.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 02, 2012, 12:01:42 PM
Er, yeah. They drop 1/4 pieces. I dunno why it's common to think that it's the same 1/5th life fragments as SA...
By the way, sometimes it can be worth it to bomb if you're going to summon a green UFO. Just make sure that it fills up and you'll still have more resources than you came in with and you'll have gotten past a seemingly-hard portion of a stage.

At any rate. Got to Grudge Bow's third phase. I hate you Nue. Stop killing me. Why am I suddenly now capable of capturing Danmaku Chimaera after so many failures? Why is Peaceful Dark Clouds so painful if the lasers decide to hate you? Why are Green UFOs so rage-inducing? Why is Kogasa essentially three consecutive tactical nuke bombs? (except I can occasionally capture Lightly Falling Large Raindrops)

Fuck you, 90FPS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 03:45:40 PM
FUCK YOU RAN FUCK YOU CHEN FUCK THE ENTIRE YAKUMO FAMILY FUCK YOU SAKUYA FUCK YOU REIMU FUCK YOU MARISA FUCK YOU CIRNO FUCK YOU LETTY FUCK YOU CHEN AGAIN FUCK YOU ALICE FUCK YOU LYRICA FUCK YOU LUNASA FUCK YOU MERLIN FUCK YOU LILY WHITE FUCK YOU YOUMU FUCK YOU YUYUKO FUCK YOU SHANGHAI FUCK YOU HOURAI FUCK YOU HITBOX WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO GOD DAMN BIG

HATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATE
WHATTHEFUCKISWRONGWITHYOUSAKUYAIJUSTWANTYOUTODOSOMETHINGCORRECTLYWHYDOYOUDOTHISTOMEWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I enjoy getting angry at video games :c
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 02, 2012, 04:46:38 PM
Each pink star is 1/4 of a life. Also, reds are the better choice of UFO in my opinion, as they give more total resources, and you can't lose lives without using them.
I have to point out that if you rly can't dodge shit (like I was when I 1cc'd normal), green UFOs are extremely useful.
6 green UFO = 8 bombs
6 red UFO = 3 lives = 6 bombs and 3 chances to dodge stuff, which, for a person who sucks, just equals 6 bombs in a boss fight.
Thus, imo it's a good strategy to stock up greens in stage 3 in preparation for Ichirin and the long stage 4 where you might need to bomb for red UFOs if you aren't that good. I also find the green-ufo route in stage 5 (gains 5 bombs or smthing) trivializes it. Also, of course, if you have enough lives, go all green UFOs in stage 6 to get 5-6 more bombs (actually, 4 bombs on lunatic, cuz the beginning part is too hard) for bombing through Byakuren.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
The odd thing about UFO is that most people find Stages 2 and 3 to be pricks when it comes to Stage 2 and Stage 3 difficulty averages. On the difficulty I currently do, I've practiced enough to be able to do a perfect run of the first three stages. Of course, there's a card at the end of stage 3 that really pisses me off (And as of late I haven't failed it at all. I guess I'm getting better at dodging the Lazors.

Difference between Lasers and Lazors: A laser is just that: A laser. However, a Lazor is a stretched bullet with a really uncertain hitbox unless you stay the fuck away from it.

But yeah, Kanon, anyone who's checked the gameplay page of Touhouwiki.net's UFO section knows the Red UFO rule. In my opinion, for Ichirin's fight, the only card that gives me trouble is the last one, and even then it doesn't happen much.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 02, 2012, 05:49:44 PM
On normal Stage 2 and Stage 3 aren't much worse than the average.
It's hard mode where they really get, well, hard.

My list of UFO auto-bombs on normal mode right now... Ichirin's last spell, Murasa's survival at about 20 seconds left so I can set up an infinitely repeating pattern for the rest, the last part of Stage 5, Stage 6 Nue's final wave, Byakuren's 3rd spell, 3rd nonspell and 4th nonspell.  In my no bombs run I died to all of these except S6 Nue and Byakuren's 3rd spell, and I died twice to Ichirin's last and Byakuren 4th nonspell.

Honestly, I'd save the 'fancy less bombing more dodging' clear for after you can consistently 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Lepetit89 on January 02, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Each pink star is 1/4 of a life. Also, reds are the better choice of UFO in my opinion, as they give more total resources, and you can't lose lives without using them.

I think that strongly depends on how well the player does at a given time in a stage. For one green UFO you get  1 1/3 bombs, one red UFO yields you 1/2 Extra Lives. Since it's hard to use that, I'm just going to use 6 summoned UFOs as a basis; that's 8 Bombs (green only) or 3 Extra Lives (red only). With the latter, you can, theoretically, get up to 9 Bombs. 6 actual Bombs, 3 times you can clear the screen by getting hit. After getting hit, you're invincible roughly as long as a Bomb lasts (at least with Reimu A). During most stages, that should be enough to survive any problematic part. During Boss fights, however, it becomes a matter of how well you can handle the pattern during which you got hit. If you can clear it after getting hit without being forced to use another Bomb, then that's pretty much one additional Bomb. If you can't, however, then the value of the Extra Live itself you gained by summoning the red UFO starts decreasing.

Furthermore, if you get hit prematurely without using all your Bombs, then the loss is much greater if you summoned a red UFO. Assuming you summoned two red UFOs, you effectively wasted two UFOs by getting hit with two Bombs in stock. If you summon two green UFOs, you're only in that situation if you actually crawled back from 0 Bombs to 2 Bombs with UFOs (though getting hit without using Bombs would just be bad in that situation). If you got the two Bombs on top of the two Bombs you started off with, losing an Extra Life without bombing won't be quite as bad as in the same situation after having summoned two red UFOs.

The overall gain from red UFOs and green UFOs is roughly the same, but the actual value depends a lot on the situation and on the player. If you never get hit with Bombs in stock, it hardly matters which ones you summon, but if you're prone to getting hit with Bombs in stock, green UFOs would probably be more helpful. Furthermore, green UFOs can help you immediately to survive longer since you get 1 1/3 Bombs out of them. With a red UFO, this would only be the case if you happened to be sitting at 2/4 or 3/4 and even then, you would just get hit where you were supposed to get hit anyway.

One last disadvantage would be the loss of Power that you have to deal with if you get hit. Effectively, the theoretical third Bomb gained from a red UFO comes at the price of 1.00 Power. Most of the time, it won't make much of a difference, but especially during patterns in Boss fights you have problems with, this can force you to use another Bomb since you spend more time dealing with the pattern, giving you more room for error. Again, that depends on the player.

However, I don't think it's too good an idea to keep only the gain from UFOs in mind. For my 1CC, I set up a route that would let me get a total of 8 Extra Lives and spent everything else on Bombs. Especially for weaker players that's a good option I think. Players who can deal with the patterns but like to play it safe, however, would see more benefit from red UFOs if they can deal with risky patterns. If you summon green UFOs, you pretty much want to avoid situations in which you're sitting there without Bombs, so I would recommend green UFOs to less skilled players and red ones to everyone else I think.

In the actual stages, however, you can't always pick which UFOs you want to summon. Sometimes, a certain UFO will just come screaming at you - summoning more UFOs is always a good idea since the UFO itself can, if summoned properly, itself equal two Bombs without even considering the items it drops.

The bottom line is, feel free to summon whichever UFO you prefer, but don't decrease the overall amount of UFOs summoned to summon maybe one more red UFO or one more green UFO - UFOs are also needed to clear otherwise difficult parts, never forget that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 02, 2012, 11:06:20 PM
FUCK YOU MAZE OF LOVE FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
I HATE YOU FLANDRE AND YOUR STUPID MAZE OF LOVE SPELL AND I HATE HOW I CAN'T EVEN BOMB THROUGH IT BUT I CAN'T RUN THROUGH IT EITHER BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO MAKE THE MAZE TOO FUCKING FAST TO GO THROUGH AND STILL FUCKING CAPTURE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 02, 2012, 11:48:32 PM
Shou, why you hate me :<
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 02, 2012, 11:52:29 PM
(rant on Maze of Love being impossible)
(predictable comment on how Maze of Love is trivial)

Also, Ran, clipdeathing me on your midboss spell like that is uncool, and completely ruined the for-fun run I was planning on doing.  Good job.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 03, 2012, 12:12:06 AM
> Enters Nightmare of Heiankyou with 3 lives, 1 bomb
> Exits with 2 lives, 1 bomb
"Okay, I can do this"
>Game overs at the end of the third phase of Grudge Bow

WHY YOU SO CRUEL?
On that note, Rainbow UFO capture. Also, Nue's last nonspell, the one with the red bubbles falling at mach 2? That is unbelievably fun at 90FPS. I am not kidding.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 03, 2012, 08:12:06 PM
FUCK. YOU. FLANDRE.

I GOT SO FUCKING CLOSE TO CAPTURING MAZE OF LOVE ON MY LAST LIFE (I tend to lose lives to the other spells) AND THEN WHEN FLANDRE HAD ONE FUCKING PIXEL OF HEALTH LEFT, I GOT CLIPPED ON A FUCKING BULLET.

FUCK.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 03, 2012, 10:11:51 PM
FUCK. YOU. FLANDRE.

I GOT SO FUCKING CLOSE TO CAPTURING MAZE OF LOVE ON MY LAST LIFE (I tend to lose lives to the other spells) AND THEN WHEN FLANDRE HAD ONE FUCKING PIXEL OF HEALTH LEFT, I GOT CLIPPED ON A FUCKING BULLET.

FUCK.
Where are you losing that many lives? On Cranberry Trap and Kagome Kagome you should have more than enough time to see if something's likely to kill you and bomb. Laevateinn and the nonspells (except maybe the second one) are easy. Four of a Kind, maybe, but you have 3 lives to work with here, and that's assuming a bad stage portion.

Of course, I'm one to talk, dying to ATTWBN with a stock of 0/3. :derp: Thankfully I've already capped it, twice even, so I don't care about that aspect, but damnit. Never underestimate an EX boss.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 03, 2012, 11:07:56 PM
Where are you losing that many lives? On Cranberry Trap and Kagome Kagome you should have more than enough time to see if something's likely to kill you and bomb. Laevateinn and the nonspells (except maybe the second one) are easy. Four of a Kind, maybe, but you have 3 lives to work with here, and that's assuming a bad stage portion.

Of course, I'm one to talk, dying to ATTWBN with a stock of 0/3. :derp: Thankfully I've already capped it, twice even, so I don't care about that aspect, but damnit. Never underestimate an EX boss.

I'm losing so many lives on the stage portion, namely Philosopher's Stone (Yes, unlike others, I actually find Royal Flare easy-ish), on Cranberry Trap due to always being huddled at the bottom like an ass, and Kagome Kagome is easy. Laevateinn is so-so for me, seeing that I'll get surprised by that laser that spins around Flandre, one time (Not the first) going the direction opposite the laser. Four of a Kind is odd for me. Sometimes it's easy as shit and sometimes it's a major pain in the ass. Basically, due to Flandre being an Extra Boss (And subsequently taking no damage when a bomb occurs), I am extremely reluctant to bomb for the simple fact that I feel it wastes time.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 03, 2012, 11:56:37 PM
I'm losing so many lives on the stage portion, namely Philosopher's Stone (Yes, unlike others, I actually find Royal Flare easy-ish), on Cranberry Trap due to always being huddled at the bottom like an ass, and Kagome Kagome is easy. Laevateinn is so-so for me, seeing that I'll get surprised by that laser that spins around Flandre, one time (Not the first) going the direction opposite the laser. Four of a Kind is odd for me. Sometimes it's easy as shit and sometimes it's a major pain in the ass. Basically, due to Flandre being an Extra Boss (And subsequently taking no damage when a bomb occurs), I am extremely reluctant to bomb for the simple fact that I feel it wastes time.

For me Philosopher's Stone is autobomb for any actual clear attempt.
Cranberry Trap should be close to 100% capture though.
I mean: shoot flan, go down through pink, stream blue down (and make sure you don't hit the bottom before all bullets fired), go up above all the blue bullets and shoot flan again.
Also, if you can't keep track / think you will die, by all means bomb! My strategy of getting through Maze of Love involves bombing as well. Not to mention if you bomb during Four of a Kind, you can take out all the clones, which makes killing Flandre easy as hell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 04, 2012, 12:02:26 AM
A death clears the screen, and Flandre takes barely any damage from it, you lose damage and potential 'wall' outs.
A bomb clears the screen, and Flandre takes no damage from it, you keep your damage and can still clear the screen more, and you don;t lose a life allows another mistake.
HOWEVER, it is ALWAYS better to bomb than to die in survival play, unless the next life would be eaten and turned into a bomb unless you have n-1 or more bombs where n is your starting bombs.
When I cleared Phantasm at 90 FPS I never once died with a bomb in stock, while other attempts lost 6+ bombs to stupid deaths and didn't get to BoLaD, my clear finished with a life and 4 bombs.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17836
That is my no focus clear of EoSD extra.  I got very lucky on the death fairy, but I usually get it anyway.  With the right shot type, Royal Flare is easy.  I can do Silent Selene consistently with focus.  Philosopher's Stone is auto-bomb, the rest of the stage is streaming with some other stuff, and that no focus run pretty much covers my Flandre strats.  Although a normal run usually won't bomb twice to Four of a Kind  :V  I also had bad luck with Flandre rushing me on Cranberry Trap.

EDIT: HOW THE HELL DO YOU PEOPLE SAY TEN DESIRES LUNATIC IS EASY IT'S NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE
It doesn't help that I can capture most of the spells effortlessly in spell practice nearly all the time but in actual runs I'm dying to Yuyuko's spells, or Kyouko.  I haven't even gotten a decent run to endboss Kyouko yet, let alone to Stage 3.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 04, 2012, 03:39:46 AM
Marine Benefit stage 6 is BULLSHIT.

I mean really, look at this image (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/mb.png) and tell me that's not bullshit. Those are not slow bullets, by the way. And they're random in the direction they move. AND that's after a death, so really, try imagining that with, oh, somewhere around twice the density.

Oh yeah, did I mention that's the second of two waves like that, both of which last about ten seconds? And that this is followed by a midboss nonspell that's easily among the top 3 hardest normal mode cards in the game?

Yeah, let's have three consecutive autobomb sections right before the final boss. BRILLIANT.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 04, 2012, 03:46:10 AM
I haven't played the game much but I didn't have any trouble with that section. Start off at the side of the screen from which the enemies are coming and stream them. I think that should work.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Arcengal on January 04, 2012, 08:56:48 AM
Play UFO Lunatic.
Scream.
Scream out all the hatred and malice towards everything you've ever hated.
Curse the bosses names in proxy of everyone and everything that's stopped you being where you wanted to be.
Despise the spell cards in proxy of everyone you've wanted to be with but wouldn't have you.
Scream more.
Probably cry, I've done that.

Then go play Normal. Feel as if everything is at 30fps. Win.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: theshirn on January 04, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
Ye gods I am so unbelievably out of practice.

It took around 15 tries to get to Koishi, at which point I had no lives and promptly managed to game over on Ancestors of all bloody things.

Followed by several more tries, finally reaching her with only one death on the post-Sanae fairies.  I then do fine up to Rorschach, then die once, once on Genetics and twice on Philosophy.  Capped Subterranean Rose to win, but oh ye gods I am so bad again :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 05, 2012, 12:35:39 AM
FUCK YOU KURODANI FUCK YOU PARSEE FUCK YOU YUUGI FUCK YOU SATORI FUCK YOU ORIN AND FUCK YOU UTSUHO

I FUCKING DESPISE TOUHOU 11. IT IS PAINFUL AS FUCK AND I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING 1CC IT ON GOD DAMN EASY MODE. I AM JUST TRYING TO CLEAR IT BECAUSE I'VE HATED IT FOR SO FUCKING LONG THAT I JUST WANT IT DONE AND OVER WITH SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH IT FOR ANOTHER TWO FUCKING YEARS
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 05, 2012, 01:13:35 AM
FUCKING GOD DAMN IT YUUKA WHY CAN'T YOU JUST SIMPLY DIE WHEN I'M RECORDING INSTEAD OF BEING AN ABSOLUTE FUCKTARD?!

I HATE YOU AND YOUR STUPID INANIMATE DREAM SONG. SLEEPING TERROR IS BETTER.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 05, 2012, 05:45:52 AM
SO I decide to go and re-perfect Shou to get a replay because I forgot to save the other.
I die to her last spell at the last second after perfecting the whole stage too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 05, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
FUCK YOU YUUKA I FUCKING HATE YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF GO GET SOME FUCKING EXERCISE YOU FUCKING SLOWPOKE AND HOW ABOUT STOP BEING A GOD DAMN SADIST DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THE SADISTIC ONES ARE THE FUCKING SICKOS I FUCKING HATE YOU AND EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU I DESPISE YOUR UGLY GREEN HAIR AND YOUR STUPID CONTRASTING PINK UMBRELLA GO FUCK YOURSELF YUUKA

Play UFO Lunatic.
Scream.
Scream out all the hatred and malice towards everything you've ever hated.
Curse the bosses names in proxy of everyone and everything that's stopped you being where you wanted to be.
Despise the spell cards in proxy of everyone you've wanted to be with but wouldn't have you.
Scream more.
Probably cry, I've done that.

Then go play Normal. Feel as if everything is at 30fps. Win.

Sounds good, I will try it since I can dodge on Lunatic levels. Brb guys 1ccing UFO Lunatic failing at UFO
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 05, 2012, 10:31:21 PM
Just gonna point out that you can stand over Yuuka's head for most of the battle. The clone part at least.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 05, 2012, 10:43:55 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17898
Died very much and bomb a lot . Failed lot of card and failed Keine's 3rd spell (I rarely failed this spell) . . .
I'm so terrible at touhou . . . .  llllOrz
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 05, 2012, 11:50:02 PM
Just gonna point out that you can stand over Yuuka's head for most of the battle. The clone part at least.

Except that I don't particularly enjoy dodging bullets that come from behind me.

Dear Reimu,
Please stop trying to have sex with Utsuho's sun bullets. It's getting annoying and Utsuho's given them hitboxes, her form of a restraining order.

Thank you,
Every Touhou 11 player ever.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 06, 2012, 02:32:20 AM
FUCK YOU UTSUHO I JUST WANNA BEAT YOUR FUCKING HEAD IN RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT YOU DID ON THAT LAST FUCKING CARD. THAT WAS UTTER FUCKING BULLSHIT AND YOU FUCKING KNOW IT.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17906)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 06, 2012, 03:54:41 AM
FUCK YOU UTSUHO I JUST WANNA BEAT YOUR FUCKING HEAD IN RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT YOU DID ON THAT LAST FUCKING CARD. THAT WAS UTTER FUCKING BULLSHIT AND YOU FUCKING KNOW IT.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17906)
but Hell's Artificial Sun is easy...
and if you meant Subterranean Sun, I nearly captured the hard version first try-would have except RNG throws wall at me and I decide to go through it.
This was in a 1cc attempt by the way, but I had 2 lives so whatever.

I go to try to capture Aya's 2nd spell on lunatic, I'm about to, and then...my brother comes over, distracts me, and I die.  Also die to the first set of Momiji bullets and dodge the rest.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 06, 2012, 04:06:57 AM
Forbidden Arcanum "Hourai Elixir" Lunatic
I can't capture this T_____________T I keep dying on the Mishaguji-sama part
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 06, 2012, 04:50:53 AM
Except that I don't particularly enjoy dodging bullets that come from behind me.

Dear Reimu,
Please stop trying to have sex with Utsuho's sun bullets. It's getting annoying and Utsuho's given them hitboxes, her form of a restraining order.

Thank you,
Every Touhou 11 player ever.
You probably don't know about me then. :V

Seriously, just keep a reasonable distance from the suns. For the first two cards, their hitboxes are the same size as their sprites, though they're smaller for the third (that makes you able to sit in between where they orbit and just dodge horizontally). In general though, when you see something that big coming at you, it should be natural to just want to get the hell out of its way.

Forbidden Arcanum "Hourai Elixir" Lunatic
I can't capture this T_____________T I keep dying on the Mishaguji-sama part
Stay slightly above the bottom of the screen, and position yourself just below where the bullets cross, that way they'll move right around you. I should still have a replay in that IN sticky that shows what it looks like.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 06, 2012, 05:11:54 AM
Forbidden Arcanum "Hourai Elixir" Lunatic
I can't capture this T_____________T I keep dying on the Mishaguji-sama part
Dodge the bullets in either lower corner, much easier there.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 06, 2012, 05:38:45 AM
Alternatively, I simply dodge a few characters right of the center. Works equally well imo.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 06, 2012, 05:45:44 AM

Stay slightly above the bottom of the screen, and position yourself just below where the bullets cross, that way they'll move right around you. I should still have a replay in that IN sticky that shows what it looks like.

Dodge the bullets in either lower corner, much easier there.

Alternatively, I simply dodge a few characters right of the center. Works equally well imo.

I'll try those Thanks :3

Anywho, I decided to have another go at EoSD Hard even though I haven't done so in a while. Patchouli took out 5 of my lives T_T
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 06, 2012, 05:54:12 AM
I'll try those Thanks :3

Anywho, I decided to have another go at EoSD Hard even though I haven't done so in a while. Patchouli took out 5 of my lives T_T
stage 4 is the hardest stage portion in EoSD (in my opinion) . Especially green books before Koakuma always kill me everytime when I trying to 1cc EoSD lunatic few months ago.
and also last stage part before Patchy is pretty hard ,too.
PS. Your avatar is really cute ~! <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 06, 2012, 06:24:11 AM
stage 4 is the hardest stage portion in EoSD (in my opinion) . Especially green books before Koakuma always kill me everytime when I trying to 1cc EoSD lunatic few months ago.
and also last stage part before Patchy is pretty hard ,too.
PS. Your avatar is really cute ~! <3 <3 <3


Re: Avatar
Thanks <3 It's soooo adorable

Re: Stage 4
I don't find it to be that bad, I didn't have trouble during the stage as it's all memorization. I bombed the books right before Koakuma. Ended the stage with only one death.  However, I kept messing up during both of Patchouli's NDL. Her Spell Cards, I kept running into stuff :<
Maybe I'll play Stage 4 on Lunatic. I also haven't done that in a while
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 06, 2012, 11:43:59 AM
but Hell's Artificial Sun is easy...
and if you meant Subterranean Sun, I nearly captured the hard version first try-would have except RNG throws wall at me and I decide to go through it.
This was in a 1cc attempt by the way, but I had 2 lives so whatever.

I go to try to capture Aya's 2nd spell on lunatic, I'm about to, and then...my brother comes over, distracts me, and I die.  Also die to the first set of Momiji bullets and dodge the rest.

Uh NO it isn't, at least for me. I do not work well AT ALL with gravity mechanics in a Shootemup game. I've ran into the RED ORB BULLETS because I'm too fucking stupid to realize that moving left or right means that you're technically going northwest/northeast, maybe north based on position, and that your movement itself isn't affected by gravity but your position draws you to the center gradually and the force gets stronger and stronger as it goes on.

I HATE IT.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 06, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
I gotta admit, I'm not a fan of Subterranean Sun either but since there isn't really any way to bypass the attack, you might as well learn how to do it.
What I usually do is to keep myself as close to the bottom of the screen as I can. Then I use horizontal movement to adjust my position so that the white bullets will pass by me so I don't have to do those risky diagonal moves.

If you can't seem to find a gap through the bullets, you'll have to either take a risk and dodge around them or bomb it. But really though, its not very hard by final spell standards. I'm hard pressed to think of even one except Miko's that's less difficult.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 06, 2012, 03:14:50 PM
hell's tokamak is really hot ,too. You need sunglasses for that spell in ultra mode ~! BD
Subterranean Sun -- Gravity is so stong . Sometimes I push down key constantly and then accidentally hug red bullets . :o

PS. Hello Zengeku.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 06, 2012, 05:09:14 PM
Uh NO it isn't, at least for me. I do not work well AT ALL with gravity mechanics in a Shootemup game. I've ran into the RED ORB BULLETS because I'm too fucking stupid to realize that moving left or right means that you're technically going northwest/northeast, maybe north based on position, and that your movement itself isn't affected by gravity but your position draws you to the center gradually and the force gets stronger and stronger as it goes on.

I HATE IT.
I don't like that spell either, but it's seriously not that hard.
I mean, down, left, down, right, .... repeat ad infinitum. For later phases, hold down longer.
It's not THAT complicated unless you stray really far from below Okuu.
The only thing that kills you easily is the white bullet wall, for which you simply let gravity pull you through after you've aligned to the right gap - and you can do this quite accurately because when you move down left of Okuu, you move 0.1 pixels right, and vice versa if you were on the right side of Okuu. The gravity drawing you back to the center actually helps towards dodging those tiny gaps.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 06, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
when you move down left of Okuu, you move 0.1 pixels right, and vice versa if you were on the right side of Okuu. The gravity drawing you back to the center actually helps towards dodging those tiny gaps.
Yes, exactly. It's becuase of that that I was able to no focus this spell, something which I expected to be completely beyond me. If end up moving too far to the left or right when aligning with a gap, you can back up and let gravity correct your position.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 06, 2012, 07:45:12 PM
Ok, really Nitori?  Really?  That's 3 times I've NDNB'd you to your last spell, and 3 times you've killed me on that.  So this time, after you kill me 10 seconds in, I decide to try to time out the rest for practice.
AND I GET IT.  The spell is a minute long, so I dodged enough for 2-3 captures in a row there.  The hell.
Why can't I just capture this, I'm only missing 6 spells in all of MoF, and this is one of them, and a further 1 is on hard mode.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 06, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
Well I finally have something to complain about as well.
I tried to timeout the DS version of PWG by taking 9 of the 10 required pictures to get it to the final phase, then going completely pacifist. It's 200 seconds long, and I got down to 17. :V
At least it's pretty fun.

EDIT: Forgot to mention it was because my keyboard betrayed me. That's why this is rage and not derp.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 06, 2012, 11:22:54 PM
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

I FUCKING HATE YOU TOUHOU 13 I FUCKING HATE YOU I FUCKING HATE HATE HATE YOU YOU SON OF A BITCH I'M GOING TO GO PUNCH AND STAB THE SHIT OUT OF ZUN AND THEN DOUSE ALL OF HIS WOUNDS IN BEER TO MAKE HIM FEEL HOW HIS KIDNEYS FEEL AND THEN I'M GOING TO SHOW HIS NEARLY-A-CORPSE FORM TO YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING FAMILY YOU STUPID FUCKING DANMAKU GAME ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS A FUCKING SCORING RUN BUT FUCKING NOPE NOPE FUCKING NOPE INSTEAD LET'S KILL JONATHAN AND MAKE HIM FEEL ABSOLUTELY AWFUL AFTER SLAVING AT THIS GAME FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE A GOD DAMN HOUR (This game takes about 30 minutes to play normally, imagine trying to time out every card that has a shitload of bullets flying at YOU) IF NOT FUCKING MORE I CAN'T EVEN DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS NOT DIE IN THE SECOND FUCKING STAGE WHEN THIS GAME WAS MY FIRST NORMAL 1CC PLAYTHROUGH I AM ABLE TO PERFECT RUN THROUGH UTSUHO'S FIGHT AND YET I CAN'T EVEN DO SOMETHING AS EASY AS MAKE A SCORING RUN OF A FUCKING EASY SHOOTEMUP GAME THAT NOBODY FUCKING LIKES BECAUSE THEY ALL THINK IT'S TOO GOD DAMN EASY WELL YOU KNOW WHAT I GAVE YOU A GOD DAMN CHANCE SO HOW ABOUT GIVING ME SOMETHING IN RETURN LIKE I DON'T KNOW A GOOD FUCKING CHANCE INSTEAD OF RUINING MY TIME BY STRESSING ME OUT WITH ALL OF THOSE FUCKING BULLETS THAT ARE JUST CHEAP AS FUCK I HAD A SHITLOAD OF BOMBS HELL I EVEN FUCKING DEATHBOMBED ON THAT LAST DEATH BUT NOPE INSTEAD YOU JUST DON'T REGISTER ME PRESSING X BECAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING SHITFACE GAME WHOSE ONLY JOB IS TO PISS PEOPLE OFF AND SLOW DOWN THEIR FUCKING COMPUTERS, OFTEN EVEN CRASHING THE DAMN THINGS

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE
IFUCKINGHATETHISGODDAMNGAMEANDISWEARIFIT'STHELASTTHINGIFUCKINGDOIAMGOINGTOFUCKINGKILLMONONOBENOFUTOANDMAKESURESHEDIESAHORRIBLEANDPAINFULDEATHTHATEVENTHEYOUKAIDOWNINHELLTHEPEOPLEUPINPANDAEMONEUMHELLEVENTHESTUPIDFUCKINGWORLDOFGENSOKYOWOULDCRINGEINFEARANDDESPAIR
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 07, 2012, 01:22:16 AM
rage

Considering all the raging posts you're making I would suggest taking a break from the games. Being that mad at something and then carrying on with it isn't going to help much (although admittedly it does help let off steam).
Although if someone told me I should take a break I probably wouldn't listen, but then that's just me..
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 07, 2012, 03:34:04 AM
I think he's exaggerating for comedy factor.
It's working.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 07, 2012, 04:35:02 AM
Partial yes, partial no.

I am exaggerating my anger somewhat so that it's more than "Fuck I suck at Touhou 13.", and more "FUCK YOU TOUHOU 13 GO DIE IN A GOD DAMN FIRE", mostly because I like to make people laugh. Hell, even I'm laughing at my posts. But seriously, if I were to take all of my anger from Touhou 11 (FUCK YOU SATORI-YUKARI SPELLS WHY CAN'T YOU BE AS EASY AS THE SATORI-PATCHOULI SPELLS) and put it in here, I'd probably fill a full page or with my nonsense and get banned because I icosaposted (Posted 20 times in a row), but ah, I just exaggerate it because it helps let off steam.

Considering all the raging posts you're making I would suggest taking a break from the games. Being that mad at something and then carrying on with it isn't going to help much (although admittedly it does help let off steam).
Although if someone told me I should take a break I probably wouldn't listen, but then that's just me..

Simple rebuttal: I'm fucking addicted and I need help.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 07, 2012, 05:59:16 AM
There is something horribly wrong with this picture. (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/framerate.png)

And it doesn't help that that shottype is the worst shottype I've ever played, even without the problem in the linked picture (which thus far has been exclusive to it). Curse my compulsion to 1CC with every shottype. Ah well, at least the worst is behind me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 07, 2012, 06:03:18 AM
OW OW MY FUCKING EYES FUCK FUCK OW

MY COMPUTER DECIDED TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF ITS VIDEO CARD FREAKOUTS AND IT NEARLY BLINDED ME WITH FLASHY FUCKING COLORS WHEN I WAS PLAYING TOUHOU 7

MY FUCKING EYES AND THAT PICTURE DOESN'T HELP A BIT.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 07, 2012, 05:20:01 PM
I have a great idea!  Let's go play PCB extra!
*dies a dozen times to the stage before Chen with ReimuB
Fine, let's make the stage easier so we can GET to Ran.
*switches to SakuyaA
*gets to Chen first try
*perfects Chen
*dies to the last set of streaming fairies
*dies to the stage another dozen times and Chen twice
*finally gets to Ran
*dies to her ridiculously easy first spell via 1 pixel clip
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 07, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
Oh god my fucking stomach... I just fucking played Touhou on Lunatic for the past four hours...

Games played were 6 and 8... UGH.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 07, 2012, 11:06:00 PM
SANAE'S FIRST SPELL ON LUNATIC
WHY DO YOU NOT LET ME SURVIVE EVEN 10 SECONDS
WORST DESIGNED MOST STUPID SPELLCARD EVER
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 07, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
MARISA KIRISAME ON LUNATIC
WHY DO YOU NOT LET ME GO WITHOUT BOMBING ON MORE THAN TWO SPELLS
I CAN CAPTURE FINAL MASTER SPARK WITHOUT FOCUSING OR SHOOTING AS LONG AS POSSIBLE BUT I CAN'T CAPTURE DOUBLE SPARK FOR SHIT
FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 08, 2012, 09:56:03 AM
I dunno if this is fuel for rage or fuel for crying but here goes this one:

Playing EoSD EXtra with Reimu A after clearing it with Riemu B and Marisa A.

Gets to Flandre just fine.

Dies a couple of times but it's because I can't do maze of love worth a damn.

Gets to Q.E.D. Ripples of 495 Years.

Gets game over as the finish dialogue comes up..............

*headdesk**Headdesk**headdesk*


*....then cries in rage and sadness....and pain from the headdesking.*

EDIT: I went ahead an uploaded the replay for others to view that kind of hurt and to answer questions of those who may as how it is posisble to die with the finish dialogue coming up.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=5162
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 08, 2012, 09:58:19 AM
Seriously Nue, why can I do the rest of your fight ok but get eaten alive at Terror of Heiankyou?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I CAN"T BEAT UFO EXTRA BECAUSE OF THAT DAMN THING!!!!!!

It just gets too muddle for my not so ok eyes and I die ba lot and most times don't even get to the 3rd phase.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 08, 2012, 01:57:19 PM
MARISA
WHY DO YOU HAVE STARS
WHY DO THEY MOVE EVERYWHERE
WHY DO THEY MOVE INTO THE EXACT SPACE I'M GOING TO GO
WHY ARE YOU HARDER THAN REIMU
ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on January 08, 2012, 04:21:52 PM
Disclaimer: this is not a usual run, usual runs end at Stage 5 or so.

Okay, so, what the hell? Seriously. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17969)

I mean, things start off okay, typical stage 1 run, Stage 2 I made two obvious mistakes, so obvious that pointing them out would be stupid. I... seemed to recover from them. Stage 3 is what starts pissing me off. especially since ALL of those deaths could(and should have been) counterbombed. And suddenly I get to stage 4 and am blindsided by a freaking dart. Sometimes I wonder why I bother trying to deathbomb things in any game that isnt TH7 or 8. -_- (nevermind that I know you need to be faster everywhere else)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 08, 2012, 06:02:56 PM
MARISA
WHY DO YOU HAVE STARS
WHY DO THEY MOVE EVERYWHERE
WHY DO THEY MOVE INTO THE EXACT SPACE I'M GOING TO GO
WHY ARE YOU HARDER THAN REIMU
ಠ_ಠ
Reimu is harder.
(going off of lunatic) My last run of Marisa captured 3 spells and NDNB timed out another.   Funnily enough i only messed up Event Horizon (2nd midboss one) which used to be the only one I could do.  I can't do either of their nonspells so those don't bug me as they're all one bomb each-and Reimu's spells are murderous.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 08, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
...I take back everything I said about MB SanaeB being the worst shottype ever. She has absolutely nothing on SanaeC.

(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/worst_shottype_ever.png)

See those wave things? Those are coming from the enemy fairies. There's one among the suns Sanae is shooting. See if you can find it. Oh wait, you can't.

And that's just in stage 1.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 08, 2012, 08:02:14 PM
Is that...Utsuho support?
I've never played MB, so I'm only speculating, although now I'm intrigued by it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 08, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
I don't have a fucking clue on how to get Marine Benefit to work.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 08, 2012, 08:45:14 PM
Is that...Utsuho support?
I've never played MB, so I'm only speculating, although now I'm intrigued by it.
Probably; the other ones are Kanako and Suwako (for Sanae A and B respectively).
Shot: Submarine Sun (loool)
Bomb: Green Flash

What's even worse, is that the focus shot periodically flashes a sun on your character, which means if the spell is full of ADD bullets (including those waves, glowy bullets, and all bubbles) you can only see them every other second. That blasted sun-on-character is only useful for shotgunning - and it does kill the boss quickly; however, there aren't that many places where you can do that safely. Maybe you can break all of the final boss's attacks due to insta-killing fairies, assuming you can dodge the bullets that are un-seeable once every second or so.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 08, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
Where did my skill at Touhou 7 Extra go?

WHERE THE FUCK DID MY SKILL AT TOUHOU 7'S FUCKING EXTRA STAGE GO?

I MEAN MOTHER OF FUCK IT'S NOT JUST TOUHOU 7'S EXTRA STAGE I'M LOSING MY TOUCH AT EVEN NORMAL MODE. FUCKING NORMAL MODE. YUYUKO IS ARGUABLY AN EASY FINAL BOSS IN THE SERIES, TOO. I FUCKING HATE EVERYTHING WHERE DID MY ABILITY AT SIMPLE DODGING GO WHERE THE FUCK DID IT FUCKING GO GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WHY IS THIS HAPPENING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

(To I Have no Name: This is not exaggeration. This is utter fucking misery and anger.)

A good idea of how this is worse than most other rage incidents: Before today, I haven't bitten my hand or punched my right thigh in two years. The last time was because I couldn't beat Cirno on Easy. I have what feels like a two-inch diameter bruise (Feels like a bruise but shows up as virtually nothing) on my thigh and my right hand looks like a topographic map of the western side of North America and Switzerland's demented lovechild. THAT IS HOW FUCKING ANGRY I GOT TODAY

ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY, CHEN? YOU MANAGED TO BECOME THE SECOND YOUKAI TO GET ME TO MUTILATE MYSELF.

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Brb, getting rubbing alcohol for my bite wounds.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 08, 2012, 11:03:31 PM
You'll get over it. You should try to control your anger a bit more. Sure it can be hard to accept when you fail epicly, happens sometimes for me and I seriously hate it, but its just something you need to learn to accept.

Until you get there, by all means keep posting. Your posts brings my old-school raging to shame. I think. Maybe. Perhabs you'll have to try harder.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 08, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
I used to be making a No Death run of Touhou 13 Stage 5 on Hard, but then I took an arrow to the knee (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17975)

LOLOLOLOLIMSOFUNNY No, I just wanted an excuse to make the joke.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 09, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
OH MY FUCKING GOD WHAT IN THE MOTHER OF FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU SUWAKO

I FUCKING HATE YOU I DESPISE YOU ON ALL LEVELS. YOUR NONSPELLS ARE ANNOYING AS SHIT BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THEY'RE MORE THAN JUST FUCKING STREAMING NOOOOOOO NEVER HAVE SOMETHING TYPICAL FOR A SPELL LET'S PISS THE PLAYER OFF BY HAVING OUR FUCKING AMULETS BOUNCE OFF OF THE GOD DAMN WALLS IN TWOS BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH DICKISH SUBJECTS OF GAME DESIGN THAT WE WILL GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO PISS OFF EVEN THE MOST REFINED OF PLAYERS

AND DON'T GET ME FUCKING STARTED ON KANAKO. THAT FUCKING NONSPELL. THAT FUCKING NONSPELL HAS CAUSED SO MANY FUCKING DEATHS. SO MANY GOD DAMN DEATHS. FUCK. SPRING LIKE SUIKA AND THE CEDARS ARE FINE BUT THAT THIRD SPELL OH GOD DON'T GET ME FUCKING STARTED I'VE ONLY CAPTURED IT TWICE OUT OF TWENTY-FIVE TIMES AND THOSE TWO TIMES WERE TODAY IT IS JUST SO FUCKING ANNOYING IF I WANTED INTERCHANGING BULLET PATTERNS LIKE THAT BULLSHIT I'D PLAY MUSHIHIMESAMA-FUTARI BECAUSE TO TELL THE TRUTH IT'S JUST AS BAD.

Dear Semi-Wall Death Fairy,
GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Red and Green Kedamas that like to shoot green needles everywhere,
I FUCKING HATE YOU GO DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Two Bows, Two Claps, and One Bow,
EHKLERNLGKNERWLIHERWKLGFNDIOGHERWKLGNEWIOHGRIKNGIEROHGFKREBVKIFRHGRKLGHR#IOGNERKGEIORHGERIONGEWSIOHGOIWEHGKLHGBRO
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear All-of-Suwako's-God-Damn-Nonspells,
DHNLBNDFIOGHNERWOIGEONBRDEHGEROHVOLIRWNGROENGERINGOREHGKILRNGIORHGLIKWDNBVHGNDEKNVGOFNHGKLRFGBOREHLGIHREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Long Arm and Long Leg,
ARM AND LEG IS RIGHT. YOU'VE COSTED ME AN ARM AND A LEG'S WORTH OF FUCKING LIVES AND I HATE YOU. SO FUCKING MUCH.
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Moriya's Iron Ring,
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Jade of the Horrid River,
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Sincerely,
Esupantix.

Dear Croaking Frog Eaten by the Snake,
You are not that bad. YOU JUST FUCKING LIKE TO WALL ME WHEN I FUCKING FEEL CONFIDENT AND VICE FUCKING VERSA.
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Seven Stones and Seven Trees,
You aren't bad at all. However you still piss me off because Reimu seems to have a fetish for BIG FLASHING BULLETS AND LASERS.
PEDOPHILE.
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Froggy Braves the Elements,
You are my favorite card to play. I have no complaints about you.
Sincerely,
Esupantix.

Dear The Red Frog in the Fourth Year of the Houei Era,
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Suwa War ~ Native Myth vs Central Myth,
I have not played you yet but I do not like what I have seen of you. You have been warned.
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.

Dear Mishaguji-Sama,
I have not played you yet and I have no hopes at all for what I have seen of you. Plus, you happen to exhibit a certain phase of Hourai Elixir that I FUCKING HATE. I FUCKING HATE THOSE FUCKING INTERSECTING GREEN NEEDLES. I WILL KILL YOU AND THEN FEED YOU TO THE FUCKING FRENCH AND HOPE THAT YOU HAVE A MISERABLE AND HORRIFYING DEATH.
Sincerely,
Esupanitix.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 09, 2012, 01:57:53 AM
First of all, if you can capture 2/4 of Kanako's patterns and bomb the other two, you're good. She drops more than a full bomb's worth of power items, and you can easily make up the difference from the fairies later.

By death fairy, I'm guessing you mean the ones with the circular pattern that have the two on the side shooting amulets. Stay in the center and bomb (the bomb is big enough to hit all three) and then sweep them with your shot.

Suwako's nonspells don't have bomb immunity. This is extremely important.

Two Claps and One Bow: During Suwako's boss conversation, fly directly above her, and don't fly back down until you see the red circle appear under her. When that red circle appears, the streams for this card aim at you (yes, before the card even begins). Without the streams, the card becomes hilariously easy.

Long Arm and Long Leg: Stay directly under Suwako. Gentle focused tapping is key.

Moriya's Iron Ring: Stay directly under Suwako as long as you can, move up quickly while grazing the rings, stay directly over Suwako for as long as you can, move down on the other side while grazing the rings, repeat.

Jade of the Horrid River: Stream slowly and bomb if you have to.

Red Frog: Misdirect the first frog off the screen. When the second frog appears, don't hesitate to bomb.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 09, 2012, 02:33:40 AM
First of all, if you can capture 2/4 of Kanako's patterns and bomb the other two, you're good. She drops more than a full bomb's worth of power items, and you can easily make up the difference from the fairies later.

By death fairy, I'm guessing you mean the ones with the circular pattern that have the two on the side shooting amulets. Stay in the center and bomb (the bomb is big enough to hit all three) and then sweep them with your shot.

Suwako's nonspells don't have bomb immunity. This is extremely important.

Two Claps and One Bow: During Suwako's boss conversation, fly directly above her, and don't fly back down until you see the red circle appear under her. When that red circle appears, the streams for this card aim at you (yes, before the card even begins). Without the streams, the card becomes hilariously easy.

Long Arm and Long Leg: Stay directly under Suwako. Gentle focused tapping is key.

Moriya's Iron Ring: Stay directly under Suwako as long as you can, move up quickly while grazing the rings, stay directly over Suwako for as long as you can, move down on the other side while grazing the rings, repeat.

Jade of the Horrid River: Stream slowly and bomb if you have to.

Red Frog: Misdirect the first frog off the screen. When the second frog appears, don't hesitate to bomb.

Okay I overreacted a bit. I usually bomb the first and last patterns.

By death fairy I meant the one that has the kedamas come in and shoot aimed bullets while you're dodging a bubble bullet and making walls for yourself to dodge through.

...REALLY?! THAT COULD HAVE BEEN REALLY USEFUL.

I know how to do Two Claps One Bow, but it likes to piss me off.

Long Arm and Long Leg, I was able to capture this easy with a controller, I fucking ahte it now.

Iron Ring is just luck with me.

Jade is a fucking horrible spell and I don't like bombing in Extra.

I just can't do it period. I just can't do the Red Frog one.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 09, 2012, 02:40:49 AM
(-a ton of rage on the easiest extra stage-)
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17624
A perfect run of the stage.
Use it as a reference wisely.
Repeating the link for good measure.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17624
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 09, 2012, 11:34:04 AM
*Saying that it's the easiest Extra Stage*

Uh, no it isn't. I got PCB's Extra AND Phantasm done before I could even get to Suwako consistently.

I had PCB's Extra and Phantasm Unlocked for about a month. 10's Extra Stage took until January for me to get good at getting to Suwako, thanks to allowing myself to be generous with bombs (Thank you Malkyrian).

Unfortunately I still like to die at Long Arm and Long Leg (SMALL GAPS FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU) and Snake Eats the Croaking Frog (I've done it before, I just hate how the blobs like to break and you have to move around Suwako. I am not used to moving full-circle around bosses, which is why I fucking hate Maze of Love).

About her survival card: I FUCKING HATE IT WITH A PASSION. I AM NOT GOOD AT MISDIRECTION, WHY DO YOU THINK I CAN'T PLAY PHANTASM CONSISTENTLY WITH SAKUYA B

Also, I just farted. IT SMELLS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 09, 2012, 11:44:40 AM
Right now, I can hardly wait for when you get to Mamizou.  :trollface:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 09, 2012, 11:46:04 AM
Right now, I can hardly wait for when you get to Mamizou.  :trollface:

I got there a while ago, she's getting better. Now, going to school now, see you guys in about eight hours.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 09, 2012, 07:35:17 PM
Uh, no it isn't.
I'm very biased on this by the way, due to said perfect run...but even still, I beat it with all characters and I beat both PCB extras with all characters.  With (I think MarisaC?) I derp-de-derped and had no lives for Froggy onwards.  Cleared anyway.  Suwako is the easiest because you have bombs (and 7 of the 8 nonspells are trivial), Ran is the second easiest to beat because you have lives (and most of the spells are easy)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 09, 2012, 09:50:13 PM
FUCKYOUMOKOUIFUCKINGWINYOULITTLEBITCHIDIDN'TEXACTLYDOGREATBUTISTILLFUCKINGWONFUCKYOUMOKOUI'MGONNASTARTPERFECTRUNNINGYOUANDYOU'REGONNAFUCKINGHATEMEYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHENGLKRNGIRGOREHGKIREFNGIOREGKLJDFHGIOERNGBKLRFEHGI*OERNGKLIRHGINFILNGOIEWNGKENGEIOVHNKLDHGTIONOD"NG"KDHG"IERNGORHGOEWIGHEOIRGIFUCKINGHATEYOUSUWAKOENWILNEOIGHREIOGREGILGNOEFRGHIFEN(O$GILEG(OERNVLKGIORENGKLENIORHWNLIGHEROPGBNEROJLIGDFHERLEGOBLOCKSNGWENINVDSGHIORWNILFR(OFUCKYEAHIDON'TNEEDYOURGODDAMNPILLSBHIRENBP(RGRKEVNPODEVNPIEWGBH
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 09, 2012, 10:02:15 PM
FUCK YOU MOKOU WHY DO WE NEED TO CAPTURE SEVEN FUCKING CARDS IN THE STAGE JUST TO SEE IMPERISHABLE FUCKING SHOOTING YOU FUCKING JERK I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

I

HATE

YOU

MOKOU

FUJIWARA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 09, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
-rage mentioning Mokou perfect-
Why 7 cards?
I HATE YOU MOKOU
7 cards is nothing if you're planning on getting all 10 of Mokou's.
Also, I think you're forgetting the rings of death.

Also, going to mention I've cleared this stage with all 4 teams AND all 8 solo characters, so you can rage once you decide to use solo Sakuya.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Raikaria on January 09, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
Dear Touhou 11 :

Why do you have to be so much harder than all the other games, includeing UFO, which is itself a step up from all the others? Why does Parsee have to be harder than most Stage 4 and 5 bosses [IMO, excludeing the Primsrivers, Youmu and maybe Shou because I've not got there yet]? Why does the bomb system have to be so unforgiving, and the bombs so useless?

Dear UFO:

Please stop making me die viva Clipdeaths, or walls.  It's simply not fun when you die against Kogasa's first spellcard due to being trapped between an umbrella, her danmaku and a destroyed-umbrealla orb. Walls tend to kill me a lot during Ichirin too. That or they slow me enoiugh for a brofist.

Also, a special RAGE to Kogasa's finla spellcard. That thing is just broken, and I wonder how drunk ZUN was when he decided that was appropriate for a Stage 2 Boss.

Dear Miko:

Stop runing my Ten Desires runs. I know I really shouldn't be dying near constantly to your second spellcard. I know your last spell is regarded as one of the easiest, barring Eirin's Astronomical Entombing. But when I go into your fight with 4 lives and 6 bombs, I generally expect myself to complete the fight, and not succumb to the difficulty spike, and your awful habit of walling me or making me misjudge hitboxes due to your glowy danmaku. You're the last thing stopping me getting a Normal-difficulty 1CC. I can perfect Stage 1,2,3 and 5 [Well, bombing on the mobs to get more bomb peices at the end, but that's different]. So stop being a pain and just die.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 09, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
RAGE
I like your post in this thread .  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on January 09, 2012, 10:32:22 PM
THIS TOPIC IS NOW ALL-CAPS THREAD.

(this happened two hours ago but...)

HOW DID I DIE TO MAMIZOU'S LAST. THIS IS UNFAIR.
i demand a rematch
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 09, 2012, 11:05:30 PM
1. Dear Touhou 11 :

Why do you have to be so much harder than all the other games, includeing UFO, which is itself a step up from all the others? Why does Parsee have to be harder than most Stage 4 and 5 bosses [IMO, excludeing the Primsrivers, Youmu and maybe Shou because I've not got there yet]? Why does the bomb system have to be so unforgiving, and the bombs so useless?

2. Dear UFO:

Please stop making me die viva Clipdeaths, or walls.  It's simply not fun when you die against Kogasa's first spellcard due to being trapped between an umbrella, her danmaku and a destroyed-umbrealla orb. Walls tend to kill me a lot during Ichirin too. That or they slow me enoiugh for a brofist.

Also, a special RAGE to Kogasa's finla spellcard. That thing is just broken, and I wonder how drunk ZUN was when he decided that was appropriate for a Stage 2 Boss.

3. Dear Miko:

Stop runing my Ten Desires runs. I know I really shouldn't be dying near constantly to your second spellcard. I know your last spell is regarded as one of the easiest, barring Eirin's Astronomical Entombing. But when I go into your fight with 4 lives and 6 bombs, I generally expect myself to complete the fight, and not succumb to the difficulty spike, and your awful habit of walling me or making me misjudge hitboxes due to your glowy danmaku. You're the last thing stopping me getting a Normal-difficulty 1CC. I can perfect Stage 1,2,3 and 5 [Well, bombing on the mobs to get more bomb peices at the end, but that's different]. So stop being a pain and just die.

1. This is very true. However, Parsee is not harder than most Stage 4 and 5 bosses. This is probably the "I started getting serious playing Subterranean Animism" mindset talking, however. You just need to figure out half of his her spells. Yes, the clone spell caught me off guard the first time, who DIDN'T it catch off guard the first time?

2. Yes. YES. YES. YES. However, Kogasa is not that bad. All she is is simple dodging, save for the god damn last card AND THAT FUCKING RAIN CARD WHICH IN MY OPINION IS MORE ANNOYING THAN THE LAST FUCKING CARD (FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU). Also, walls rarely killed me in Ichirin's stage because I GOT USED TO IT.

3. How is that boss hard for you? I'm sorry, but Miko wasn't that bad to me the first time. The only card I can think of that's stupid as fuck is Guze Cannon but that's because I can't dodge fast bullets focused for shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 09, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
Guze Cannon
that is my favourite Miko's spell ~! :> It's fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Raikaria on January 09, 2012, 11:16:41 PM
1. This is very true. However, Parsee is not harder than most Stage 4 and 5 bosses. This is probably the "I started getting serious playing Subterranean Animism" mindset talking, however. You just need to figure out half of his her spells. Yes, the clone spell caught me off guard the first time, who DIDN'T it catch off guard the first time?

2. Yes. YES. YES. YES. However, Kogasa is not that bad. All she is is simple dodging, save for the god damn last card AND THAT FUCKING RAIN CARD WHICH IN MY OPINION IS MORE ANNOYING THAN THE LAST FUCKING CARD (FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU). Also, walls rarely killed me in Ichirin's stage because I GOT USED TO IT.

3. How is that boss hard for you? I'm sorry, but Miko wasn't that bad to me the first time. The only card I can think of that's stupid as fuck is Guze Cannon but that's because I can't dodge fast bullets focused for shit.

1: I have faced most Stage 4 and 5 bosses, and can fight well against them. Parsee is a Game Over every time, and it's not even the clone card that's the major issue for me, I can usually handle it, maybe using a bomb, it's her 1st and 3rd. Especially Midnight Ritual. That spell is practically a survival spell, and is like moving through soup. I do really bad at moving through slow bullets. It's one of my weaknesses.

2: I have bad luck with Ichirin. And I find Kogasa's 2nd spell easy. I guess we're opposites.

3: I suck at Miko. The only card I'm consistant on is Summoning: Royal Clan Chaotic Dance. Well, I technically am consistant on her 1st and penultimate cards... consistantly failing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 10, 2012, 12:16:17 AM
1: I have faced most Stage 4 and 5 bosses, and can fight well against them. Parsee is a Game Over every time, and it's not even the clone card that's the major issue for me, I can usually handle it, maybe using a bomb, it's her 1st and 3rd. Especially Midnight Ritual. That spell is practically a survival spell, and is like moving through soup. I do really bad at moving through slow bullets. It's one of my weaknesses.

2: I have bad luck with Ichirin. And I find Kogasa's 2nd spell easy. I guess we're opposites.

3: I suck at Miko. The only card I'm consistant on is Summoning: Royal Clan Chaotic Dance. Well, I technically am consistant on her 1st and penultimate cards... consistantly failing.

1. Really, a bloody game over every time? No. I can perfect up to Stage 4 on Normal. Midnight Anathema Ritual is simple misdirection. Period. It is not like moving through soup, it is like moving out of the way of a stream of pink needles and through a cluster of blue fireballs.

2. ಠ__ಠ

3. About all of her cards.
Honor "Colors/Ranks of Twelve Levels" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_80)
This I can understand. It's an utter clusterfuck. Just stop getting fucking scared.

Hermit Sign "Taoist/Emperor of the Land of the Rising Sun" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_84)
Dodge through the walls once or twice at a time. Simple.

Summon "Royal Clan's Chaotic Dance" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_88)
Yeah, this is pretty easy too.

Secret Treasure "Armillary Sphere of Ikaruga-Dera"/"Prince Shotoku's Out-of-place Artifact" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_92)
PFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT.

Light Sign "Halo of the Guze Kannon"/"Guze Flash" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_96)
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE

Discernment "Laser of Seventeen Articles"/Divine Light "Honour the Avoidance of Defiance" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_100)
Like the first one, an utter clusterfuck. Just with lasers. STOP GETTING SCARED, YOU ***** (And it's not "BITCH", just so you know)

"Falling Stars on Divine Spirit Mausoleum"/"Newborn Divine Spirit" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_104)
This one's a pain for me. I hate it so much. I don't mind it, but to tell the truth it annoys me. Greatly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 10, 2012, 12:38:44 AM
Miko's normal spells, in (subjective) order of difficulty:
5th (hate me if you want to)
2nd (shiny.)
4th (run in circles)
1st (bullets fade before they become a serious threat-and they're slow)
7th (this is down here because of the transition phase-it's really easy to NDNB due to trancing the transition)
3rd (HOW is this easy??)
6th (Like the first, but with lasers restricting movement and the bullets.  Don't. Go. Away.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 10, 2012, 01:01:37 AM
3rd (HOW is this easy??)
I think because normal mode .  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 10, 2012, 01:16:00 AM
I think because normal mode .  :P

Except that Normal mode in TD is barely Easy Mode level.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 10, 2012, 01:21:55 AM
I think because normal mode .  :P
Even on normal I suck at that spell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 10, 2012, 04:21:22 AM
Okay, so let's walk through precisely what went through my head during my last run against Genetics of the Subconscious.

All right, this has been a bad run, but I can still salvage it here. Here we go, two lives left.

Whoa, that was close.

Doing pretty good at this.

Holy crap, I'm still in this.

Wait, is Koishi really about to die? Am I really about to capture Genetics?!

HOLY SHIT I DID IT I FINALLY CAPTURED GENETICS (pichuun) (last of my bullets onscreen hit Koishi) (BONUS FAILED)

...

FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 10, 2012, 05:32:34 AM
2 things here.
1.
Youmu, I've captured your last word before, but that doesn't mean you can keep killing me right after timeslow ends.  It's really not fun.
2.
This week's special challenge.
WHY LUNATIC I CAN'T EVEN BEAT THAT YET WHY CAN'T NORMAL BE ON THE LIST I COULD POTENTIALLY PERFECT THAT

EDIT:
So, annoyed at myself for not saving a replay of my perfect Eirin, I went to do it again.
I failed with 2 seconds left on Astronomical Entombing.  Come on, I got the bubbles and Apollo 13, why you so mean Eirin

Also, I'm getting really tired of EoSD freezing for a split second every time I get to Scarlet Meister, meaning it ignores my input-and I die.  This happened 3 times tonight.  Also, WHY IS THE ONLY ONE OF REMILIA'S LUNATIC SPELLS I CAN CAPTURE HER 3RD ONE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 10, 2012, 07:51:51 AM
Something is very wrong with this picture. (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/mbglitch.png)

(If you're wondering why this is in the rage thread, it's because I discovered this glitch after what I thought was a perfect stage 5 pacifist, which would have been an amazing achievement had it actually happened in a functioning game.)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Arcengal on January 10, 2012, 09:11:01 AM
I just Game Over'd on Ichirin in UFO.
On Hard.

So much for my dreams of a Lunatic 1cc, huh? I guess playing TD hurts my UFO skills a wee bit. That and playing other games that aren't Touhou. Still haven't cleared Futari no continues...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 10, 2012, 11:23:18 AM
Man, Aya is doing her best to be a dick to me. Playing against her with ReimuA really gives her an opportunity to be mean with her first card. That came completely unexpected since that attack is completely trivial to me normally. Then goes her second spell that I didn't manage to get one capture of over the course of 4 runs. I mean, wtf? I haven't played Touhou for a long while which might have something to do with it but I did play for around 20-30 minutes yesterday and I was better then.

Oh and I somehow managed to fuck up all four times at Terukuni. Something that I never fuck up at. It must be the foreign shot type curse. (Even if there is no reason why ReimuA would handicap me. Let's just say its a curse and it doesn't need to make sense.)

Oh and ReimuA is not powerful enough to make my stage strategy work as effectively.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 10, 2012, 11:43:08 AM
Something is very wrong with this picture. (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Malkyrian/mbglitch.png)

(If you're wondering why this is in the rage thread, it's because I discovered this glitch after what I thought was a perfect stage 5 pacifist, which would have been an amazing achievement had it actually happened in a functioning game.)

DAT ASS HITBOX

Man, Aya is doing her best to be a dick to me. Playing against her with ReimuA really gives her an opportunity to be mean with her first card. That came completely unexpected since that attack is completely trivial to me normally. Then goes her second spell that I didn't manage to get one capture of over the course of 4 runs. I mean, wtf? I haven't played Touhou for a long while which might have something to do with it but I did play for around 20-30 minutes yesterday and I was better then.

Oh and I somehow managed to fuck up all four times at Terukuni. Something that I never fuck up at. It must be the foreign shot type curse. (Even if there is no reason why ReimuA would handicap me. Let's just say its a curse and it doesn't need to make sense.)

Oh and ReimuA is not powerful enough to make my stage strategy work as effectively.

Try Reimu C. She's not too powerful but she deals near-constant damage due to high spread. If it weren't for her, I wouldn't have 1cc'd Mountain of Faith on Normal. I don't like Reimu B because the stages are the parts of the game that tend to be more pains in the ass than the bosses in MoF, obviously excluding Extra and Stage 6 from this rule.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Raikaria on January 10, 2012, 11:56:54 AM
Miko's normal spells, in (subjective) order of difficulty:
5th (hate me if you want to)
2nd (shiny.)
4th (run in circles)
1st (bullets fade before they become a serious threat-and they're slow)
7th (this is down here because of the transition phase-it's really easy to NDNB due to trancing the transition)
3rd (HOW is this easy??)
6th (Like the first, but with lasers restricting movement and the bullets.  Don't. Go. Away.

Oh her 3rd card, the first two waves are easy to dodge. 6 arrows is also ok to dodge. If you make the card last until they are fireing 7, it gets tricky, because you have to squeeze between the arrows, or move very far away. 8 arrows per segement probobly means you're going for a Timeout [Which I've suceeded in on spell practise. You squeeze between the arrows]

That said, I'm actually pretty good at sqeezeing between Arrow danmaku. It's how I handle Futo's 2nd and 3rd nonspells, I find them so much easier when I can stay focus, instead of going focus-> unfocus.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 10, 2012, 12:06:04 PM
I don't like Reimu B because the stages are the parts of the game that tend to be more pains in the ass than the bosses in MoF, obviously excluding Extra and Stage 6 from this rule.

I normally use ReimuB actually. The only shot type that can kill things reliably fast. Besides, on Lunatic the bosses are certainly the hardest part of the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 10, 2012, 04:27:02 PM
I normally use ReimuB actually. The only shot type that can kill things reliably fast. Besides, on Lunatic the bosses are certainly the hardest part of the game.
Agreed-I worked out stage paths for ReimuB after testing with ReimuA (who I got my first hard 1cc with) and 1cced it with ReimuB.  Later went and cleared with ReimuA though just because I got better at the bosses.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 10, 2012, 05:10:19 PM
WHY CAN EVERYONE EXCEPT ME AND GLIMMER SURVIVE THE EOSD EXTRA DEATH FAIRY

rrraaaasdlkjfhsadlghsadlkghfsdlkfh
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 10, 2012, 06:06:56 PM
WHY CAN EVERYONE EXCEPT ME AND GLIMMER SURVIVE THE EOSD EXTRA DEATH FAIRY

rrraaaasdlkjfhsadlghsadlkghfsdlkfh

I assume this is the one before the Patchouli midboss?

If so it's RNG based  and I know your pain. stupid walls.........
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 10, 2012, 06:43:07 PM
WHY CAN EVERYONE EXCEPT ME AND GLIMMER SURVIVE THE EOSD EXTRA DEATH FAIRY

rrraaaasdlkjfhsadlghsadlkghfsdlkfh
playing normally I always survive it.
Always.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 10, 2012, 09:18:02 PM
TREE OCEAN OF HOURAI YOU'RE MAKING ME CRY IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT FUCK YOU I HATE YOU SO MUCH
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 10, 2012, 09:27:41 PM
WHY CAN EVERYONE EXCEPT ME AND GLIMMER SURVIVE THE EOSD EXTRA DEATH FAIRY

rrraaaasdlkjfhsadlghsadlkghfsdlkfh

THANK YOU SOMEONE THAT AGREES WITH ME

BUT I ALSO HATE THE IN EXTRA DEATH FAIRY AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE MY BOMB STOCK ON IT

Also guys, should I upload my Extra replay to YouTube even though it fucking sucks?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 10, 2012, 09:39:09 PM
WHY CAN EVERYONE EXCEPT ME AND GLIMMER SURVIVE THE EOSD EXTRA DEATH FAIRY

rrraaaasdlkjfhsadlghsadlkghfsdlkfh
Learn it ~! :>
Patterns are very simple once you understand it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 10, 2012, 09:44:52 PM
I think the fairy they're talking about is randomized. The IN one is always the same though.

But neither of them deserve the title of "Death Fairy" as far as I'm concerned. The real Death Fairy is the one that tries to fly into you on midboss Nue.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 10, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
The real Death Fairy is the one that tries to fly into you on midboss Nue.
?

Eh?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 10, 2012, 09:50:45 PM
Eh?
Well it happened to me few times. It's not really hard to prevent when I remember that it exists. Also takes two lives when it hits you, which is fun on the last wave after you dodged all the bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 10, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
Learn it ~! :>
Patterns are very simple once you understand it.

No, they aren't. Once you learn a pattern, you know how to do it. That doesn't mean that it's simple. That means that you know how to do it. That's like saying if a shitload of bullets flied at you and you had the right pattern for dodging, that it'd be easy to dodge them.

Or, in olAlolilo language,

No it are not . :P Once you learn pattern , you know how to do it . That does not mean its simple ~! :> It means you know how to do it.  Thats like saying if lots of bullets flyed at you and you had the right pattern to dodging, that it' d be EASY MODO to dodge them ~! XD
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 10, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
Or, in olAlolilo language,

No it are not . :P Once you learn pattern , you know how to do it . That does not mean its simple ~! :> It means you know how to do it.  Thats like saying if lots of bullets flyed at you and you had the right pattern to dodging, that it' d be EASY MODO to dodge them ~! XD

Was there really any need for that?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 10, 2012, 10:11:17 PM
No, they aren't. Once you learn a pattern, you know how to do it. That doesn't mean that it's simple. That means that you know how to do it. That's like saying if a shitload of bullets flied at you and you had the right pattern for dodging, that it'd be easy to dodge them.

Or, in olAlolilo language,

No it are not . :P Once you learn pattern , you know how to do it . That does not mean its simple ~! :> It means you know how to do it.  Thats like saying if lots of bullets flyed at you and you had the right pattern to dodging, that it' d be EASY MODO to dodge them ~! XD
lol I love you so HARD ,Esupanitix.
PS. My English is so awesome ! isn't it ? >:D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 10, 2012, 10:13:15 PM
Was there really any need for that?

No, I just felt like letting out my urge to use bad english and use olAlolilo as an excuse.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 10, 2012, 10:34:29 PM
@Zil
Ah that Midboss Nue. For a while there, i thought you were talking about TD Extra. Heh. Yeah, nothing threatening about that stage.

Oh and now that I'm here. Bloody hell, Byakuren is being mean to me. Why can I not capture Superhuman any longer? Man, that sucks. I can accept things like LFO and Great Recitation because they are some hardass bitches but Superhuman? That just boils down to flying straight into slow bullets.

The bright side of it is that I'm seeing improved capture rates of Good Omen and her 2nd non-spell. I don't know how much practice is gonna be needed before I can call myself any kind of competent at LFO though. And for Great Recitation. I'd wish I could stop making stupid as fuck mistakes. Everytime I die, its something that could easily have been avoided but I just somehow fail to do most of the time.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 11, 2012, 02:57:04 AM
FUCKING KEINE KILLED ME THREE FUCKING TIMES ON NORMAL WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET TIME POINTS (I DON'T LIKE REIMU AT ALL, I'M AVOIDING STAGE 4-REIMU)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 11, 2012, 03:04:37 AM
I hug Nitori-midboss while PoC . :V
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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Matt on January 11, 2012, 04:04:29 AM
Screw Lyrica's general opening bullshit. The sisters are easy if you could just avoid the opening barrage...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ark on January 11, 2012, 07:08:39 AM
IN Lunatic no bomb attempts. First run of the day went ok, but then they kept getting worse and worse and worse, the last couple not even reaching stage 5.

Who the hell dies *twice* on Mystia's first spell? And then ram here while trying to PoC some items? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18033)

No points for a correct guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 11, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
UTSUHO YOU HAVE EIGHT HOURS TO PREPARE YOUR ANUS YOURSELF

GET READY
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Naut on January 11, 2012, 02:32:09 PM
Hngh, 1dnb up to Byakuren, 3dnb her fight (pathetic). My one death before her was on Ichirin's second boss card, Consecutive Hooks or whatever, really silly. Would've been nice to "perfect" up to Byakuren.  :ohdear:

Three deaths on Byakuren were on her second non, Milky Way and Superhuman. Last two deaths shouldn't've happened. Purple Mist was particularly shitty too and I still managed a cap, must've got overconfident. Fucks sake.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 11, 2012, 03:20:28 PM
Hngh, 1dnb up to Byakuren, 3dnb her fight (pathetic). My one death before her was on Ichirin's second boss card, Consecutive Hooks or whatever, really silly. Would've been nice to "perfect" up to Byakuren.  :ohdear:
Apparantly I need to start playing at 90fps. Then maybe someday I can rage about perfecting all of SA except for Yuugi's first spell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 11, 2012, 03:50:45 PM
ZUN creating more actually difficult games would also help. Seriously though Naut, you got a replay for that?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Naut on January 11, 2012, 03:53:19 PM
Apparantly I need to start playing at 90fps.

Get to it. Be the first to 1cc SA at 90fps.

ZUN creating more actually difficult games would also help. Seriously though Naut, you got a replay for that?

Yeah, on my home computer. Gimme a few hours to upload it, at uni right now. I had livestream open when I did it though, so you can watch it there (http://livestre.am/1e21H) in the meantime, if you want.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 11, 2012, 04:59:20 PM
Get to it. Be the first to 1cc SA at 90fps.
Been a while since I took on something truly challenging. Well, so be it. Hopefully I won't become too friendly with the rage thread here. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 11, 2012, 06:05:39 PM
Been a while since I took on something truly challenging. Well, so be it. Hopefully I won't become too friendly with the rage thread here. :V

Been meaning to ask. How do you get it to go 90 fps? If it's the vsync patch, I can't figure out how to work it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 11, 2012, 06:12:39 PM
Do mean you can't get the vpatch to work, or just the 90fps thing?
Assuming you have the patch working, you go to the vpatch.ini and you'll see "GameFPS = 60" Just change that 60 to a 90 and you're good. For SA and UFO I think you also have to go to the custom.exe and set the input latency to Fast instead of Automatic.

You can also use Fraps to boost the fps if you have that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 11, 2012, 06:18:49 PM
ATTN: Charming Siege from All Sides:

FUCK YOU.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 11, 2012, 07:23:53 PM
Do mean you can't get the vpatch to work, or just the 90fps thing?
Assuming you have the patch working, you go to the vpatch.ini and you'll see "GameFPS = 60" Just change that 60 to a 90 and you're good. For SA and UFO I think you also have to go to the custom.exe and set the input latency to Fast instead of Automatic.

You can also use Fraps to boost the fps if you have that.

It's the patch in general really but the other info helps too. DO you have a good link for it? I seem to have deleted mine after al the technical issues I had with it...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 11, 2012, 07:34:56 PM
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,197.0.html

Has all of them, I believe.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 11, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,197.0.html

Has all of them, I believe.

Thank you so much Zil. I wanna try some 90 fps runs of IN for my first shot at this (it's the first game I 1cc normal. first I beat EX stage on and the only one I have 1cc hard.)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 11, 2012, 07:57:54 PM
Naut, do you think that Reimu Homing is the best shot type all around or do you just use it because you don't give a shit about the UFOs?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 11, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
FUCK YOU BYAKUREN FUCK YOU SHOU FUCK YOU NAZRIN FUCK YOU MURASA

I ACTUALLY FUCKING MAXED OUT MY DAMN RESOURCES AND YOU FUCKING RUINED IT FOR ME

I FUCKING  HATE YOU ALL I ACTUALLY GOT SOMEWHERE WITH THE GAME BUT NOPE FUCKING NOPE YOU JUST HAD TO FUCKING SCREW IT UP FOR ME AGAIN I MIGHT HAVE CONSIDERED GIVING THE UFO CAST ONE MORE TRY TO LIKE IT BUT FUCKING NOPE INSTEAD LET'S FUCKING MAKE REIMU CLIP SIX TIMES ON ONE FUCKING CARD
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Arcengal on January 11, 2012, 09:25:11 PM
ATTN: Charming Siege from All Sides:

FUCK YOU.

This forum needs a "Like" button.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 11, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Damn straight. Then everyone would be playing forum poster for score!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 11, 2012, 09:29:45 PM
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(By the way, I TYPED all that. That's how much hate I have to exhibit.)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Naut on January 11, 2012, 09:31:18 PM
Naut, do you think that Reimu Homing is the best shot type all around or do you just use it because you don't give a shit about the UFOs?

I used her because she has to last the longest on all boss attacks.
Also hitbox.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 11, 2012, 09:42:15 PM
Well I tried her earlier. She lasts longer on boss attacks but helps my UFO problem (I always rush under a UFO to get it; I can dodge freely with Homing Reimu), so thank you for giving me an idea by accident.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 11, 2012, 11:35:56 PM
WHY CAN'T I DO THIS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18050)
Title: Touhou Rage Thread
Post by: Esper on January 11, 2012, 11:54:08 PM
Massive wall of profanity follows.

FR"PIGN@E$PIGHB"AEYPGHJ@elfp'werhg;lpfrhjgioprwhjoiewhiofhwenuifhswi9gfthwesi9hfe9hfr98eyfuiosh8904hgidh78ehouichc89ashfuiashenvh8dhtuierhvjuswne4i3cfhsdvfhs nb9hvoiasifvy98wevbhievhde8vhndxcu9hfv8c9hrfherdwhbvdfjuvhiwsudhvfqiwuechudqhgfv8iewghu9rebhiruwehg3wei7htg

WHY BYAKUREN WHY I WAS ACTUALLY DOING FUCKING GOOD AND YOU FUCKING FUCKED ME OVER I THOUGHT I'D ACTUALLY FUCKING WIN BUT NOPE FUCKING NOPE I DID GOOD AGAINST SHOU, DYING ONLY ONCE BUT FUCK NO LET'S NEVER LET JONATHAN BE HAPPY AT ALL WITH HOW HE LIVES AND HOW HE ACTS AND HOW HE'S AN OVERZEALOUS PRICK AT SCHOOL WITH NO FRIENDS AND TO TELL THE TRUTH THIS GAME SERIES IS THE ONLY THING HE HAS TO DEPEND ON FOR SATISFACTION BEING THE ONLY FUCKING REASON THAT HE EVEN TRIES AT SCHOOL JUST SO HE CAN KEEP HIS DAMN COMPUTER, NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE HE'S SO FUCKING OBSESSED WITH INTELLECT AND FANTASY THAT IT'S EITHER HE BELIEVES IN NO GODS OR HE WORSHIPS FUCKING KANAKO AND SUWAKO

FUCK. I FUCKING HATE YOU BYAKUREN. YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE BEYOND ALL REASON. I HAD FIVE FUCKING LIVES AND THREE BOMBS AND YOU MADE ME DIE ALL FIVE TIMES BY CLIPDEATHS, AND I USED ALL OF MY FUCKING BOMBS TRYING TO SAVE MYSELF FROM YOUR STUPID TWO NONSPELLS WHERE YOU FLING BULLET WALLS AT ME AND NOTHING MORE THAN THAT AND THE SECOND NONSPELL BEING THE ONE WHERE YOU FUCKING GO AROUND THE ENTIRE FUCKING ROOM AND MAKE ME WANT TO PUNCH THE SHIT OUT OF YOU FOR MAKING ME DODGE BACKWARDS

AND SHOU I FUCKING HATE YOU TOO YOU HAVE CAUSED MORE PAIN THAN BYAKUREN HAS BUT BYAKUREN CAUSES IT MORE OFTEN. I WANT TO FUCKING DOUSE YOU IN WATER AND TIE YOU TO THE GROUND AND DANGLE FUCKING CATNIP ABOVE YOU JUST TO TORMENT YOU FOR ANOTHER TEN THOUSAND FUCKING YEARS AND THEN STAB YOU SLOWLY AND GENTLY JUST TO CAUSE YOU PAIN, BARELY PENETRATING THE SKIN AND CUTTING AND CUTTING AT YOU SLOWLY UNTIL YOU FUCKING BLEED TO DEATH, TAKING ABSOLUTE PLEASURE FROM EVERY CRY OF PAIN YOU LET OUT AND SIMPLY LAUGHING AT YOU.

I WANT YOU FUCKING DEADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YES I'M A FUCKING SADIST DO YOU HAVE A FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THAT YUUKA I'M MORE OF A SADIST THAN YOU COULD EVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BE
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AND ABOUT YOU, BYAKUREN

I'M GOING TO FUCKING NEUTER YOU AND YOUR FUCKING PETS. THAT INCLUDES SHOU AND NAZRIN.

I HATE YOU TWO POST-NAZRIN BOSSES (Kogasa and Ichirin). YOU FUCKING KILLED ME AND I DECIDED NOT TO RAGEQUIT BECAUSE I WAS FUCKING TRYING TO 1CC THE DAMN GAME BUT FUCK IT. FUCK UFO. FUCK IT. JUST GONNA MOVE UP TO HARD WITHOUT BEATING IT.

tl;dr I just bloody hate UFO, I don't know WHY I still play it, I just kinda consider it as the Stage 6 of the Touhou project. SA is the Extra Stage to me because I despise how every difficulty is one higher than it should be.
Also: Edited the post so that it was all blocked out by the spoiler tag.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 12, 2012, 12:19:07 AM
Now, that's not a nice way to treat the UFO bosses. Remember, they hurt you because they love you. As for Shou, you can try all you want but you'll have to get through me first.  :V

Oh and I got a baseball bat so good luck!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 12, 2012, 12:32:10 AM
Why do you hate me so GFW Extra stage. No matter what techs I am told or what I witness and then try, this stage just F***ing hates me. I have yet to see Marisa even once except in videos of it...


Damn It!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 12:42:43 AM
I just tried to play MoF Hard, and here's my response:

"Exteeeending Aaaaarm (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mountain_of_Faith/Spell_Cards/Stage_3#Spell_Card_41)"
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread
Post by: T on January 12, 2012, 02:51:32 AM
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18054
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 03:00:17 AM
SanaeB doesn't help. I can only do good constantly with ReimuA because she diverts my attention FROM the UFOs to the actual game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread
Post by: XephyrEnigma on January 12, 2012, 03:03:15 AM
massive ragepost with unnecessary vulgar language

Okay, really. I understand this is a ragethread, but is all that really necessary?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: T on January 12, 2012, 03:32:26 AM
ReimuA
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18055
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 12, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
I am quite upset with some of the bosses in UFO!

As someone who's cosplaying Byakuren, that made me sad T_T It's like someone saying Orin, Okuu, and Koishi should die ;_;

On topic, I suck at gathering faith :<
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 12, 2012, 05:18:19 AM
NO. FUCK YOU RAN. THE ONE TIME, THE ONE FUCKING TIME I CAPTURE BULLSHIT SIEGE YOU OUTRIGHT FUCKING LIE TO ME DURING YOUR SURVIVAL. CIRCLE BULLETS DO NOT SUDDENLY GROW IN HITBOX SIZE. THAT IS NOT HOW IT FUCKING WORKS.

edit: And the worst part is that it wasn't even necessary, since I died on Descent of Izuna Gongen anyway. If it were just that I could actually accept it, since that death was actually my fault.

And speaking of my fault, that's the reason Charming Siege is such bullshit. I've had just as many if not more deaths to Red Oni Blue Oni, but I haven't really raged about that card. Almost every single death to that card could have been avoided if I hadn't moved too far or not enough or in the wrong way. With Charming Siege, if the RNG doesn't like you, your perfect run is over and there's not a single thing you can do about it. That's the fucking difference.

So once more for the record: FUCK YOU CHARMING SIEGE. YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Formless God on January 12, 2012, 05:29:57 AM
Jumped on the UFOwagon, made it to the end of Space Invaders, then I went full retard and tried to squeeze into their formation(!) and lost my last life with full bombs in stock. I'm surprised I made it that far after such a long break, though; guess all that rape in DOJ finally paid off.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 12, 2012, 09:37:53 AM
As someone who's cosplaying Byakuren, that made me sad T_T It's like someone saying Orin, Okuu, and Koishi should die ;_;

Who cares, everybody knows that Touhou characters cannot truly die because they have all them extra lives.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 12, 2012, 10:42:04 AM
ATTN: Charming Siege from All Sides:

FUCK YOU.
That is the only problem I have to perfect ex PCB ~! :V
(My best attempt is 1dnbnbb <
no scoring
> died once at that fuckin' card.  :getdown:)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Okay, really. I understand this is a ragethread, but is all that really necessary?

1. It costs less than an anger management class.
2. It works better.
3. Did you just get here?
4. This is kinda the point of the thread: Raging.

5. My answer to your question is yes; it is definitely necessary because I suck bollocks at these games and to tell the truth I'm am impatient person. Translation: I should really stop playing these games but I'm too addicted to them to give a shit.

NO. FUCK YOU RAN. THE ONE TIME, THE ONE FUCKING TIME I CAPTURE BULLSHIT SIEGE YOU OUTRIGHT FUCKING LIE TO ME DURING YOUR SURVIVAL. CIRCLE BULLETS DO NOT SUDDENLY GROW IN HITBOX SIZE. THAT IS NOT HOW IT FUCKING WORKS.

edit: And the worst part is that it wasn't even necessary, since I died on Descent of Izuna Gongen anyway. If it were just that I could actually accept it, since that death was actually my fault.

And speaking of my fault, that's the reason Charming Siege is such bullshit. I've had just as many if not more deaths to Red Oni Blue Oni, but I haven't really raged about that card. Almost every single death to that card could have been avoided if I hadn't moved too far or not enough or in the wrong way. With Charming Siege, if the RNG doesn't like you, your perfect run is over and there's not a single thing you can do about it. That's the fucking difference.

So once more for the record: FUCK YOU CHARMING SIEGE. YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE.

1. I hate Red Oni Blue Oni more than any of Ran's cards excluding Izuna Gongen and Charming Siege. Someone actually agrees with me.

2. Why are you trying to make a perfect run when an involved card is really fucking annoying and you can barely capture it at all?

As someone who's cosplaying Byakuren, that made me sad T_T It's like someone saying Orin, Okuu, and Koishi should die ;_;

On topic, I suck at gathering faith :<

They SHOULD. They're almost as irritating as the UFO cast.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread
Post by: ふねん1 on January 12, 2012, 03:01:04 PM
3. Did you just get here?
4. This is kinda the point of the thread: Raging.
- Just check his registration date dude. And take it from your fellow posters, he's been around for a while.
- He did say he knew this was a rage thread. His point was more that your posts here seem to be a bit over the top. Even I in my heyday didn't make posts that crazy. :V

5. My answer to your question is yes; it is definitely necessary because I suck bollocks at these games and to tell the truth I'm am impatient person. Translation: I should really stop playing these games but I'm too addicted to them to give a shit.
If you find playing Touhou games that destructive, then you should stop, because playing with this kind of attitude is not helping you at all. But if you say you're addicted, then I can venture that you're finding some fun out of this, in one form or another. If you really want to improve at Touhou and start conquering stuff, stop being so mindlessly angry at the games, realize that you're maybe reaching a limit to your current skill, and work to improve that limit. Be more constructive, basically.

1. I hate Red Oni Blue Oni more than any of Ran's cards excluding Izuna Gongen and Charming Siege. Someone actually agrees with me.
Rather than rage about a card being difficult, you could try to get help on how to do it. There are a plethora of videos out there showing someone capturing any given attack, and the people here will gladly help you out if you have a question. Once you know how an attack works and inevitably start capturing it more often, you'll think to yourself "why did I ever rage about this one? this is easier than I thought".

2. Why are you trying to make a perfect run when an involved card is really fucking annoying and you can barely capture it at all?
Though I can somewhat side with this. There are a few stages I just don't bother trying to perfect because there might be one or two attacks that are annoyingly hard to capture and not fun to learn at all. This doesn't apply to most stages however.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread
Post by: I have no name on January 12, 2012, 04:25:21 PM
2. Why are you trying to make a perfect run when an involved card is really fucking annoying and you can barely capture it at all?
This, for me, with Suwako.  I'll explain why I kept going for it even though I'm horribly inconsistent at Red Frog. (and also Suwa War)
1. Because I knew I could capture them, even if I'd never done them back to back
2. TO get better at Touhou in general
3. Because Native Faith is awesome.
4. Because I figured it would feel amazing when I finally got it (and it did)
4b: C Hoking on Mishaguji-sama was awful.
5.  :dragonforce: (lol this smiley's name is 'dragonforce' totally fitting because
yesterday I 4-starred Through the Fire and Flames on expert totally 1-handed
)

So now with Ran, for me Charming Siege is the only issue, aside from possibly the final phase of the survival.  Except I don't really have the motivation to attempt Ran right now  :getdown:

Also, dying to Stage 2.
In Mountain of Faith.
and then twice to Stage 3.
on 'only' hard, before almost no-deathing Stage 4 with a capture of Momiji and the first waterfalls, in addition to Aya's first and 3rd spells.
WHY do I get the hard stuff only when I mess up the easy stuff?
Also said run had like 4-5 stupid deaths with bombs in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 12, 2012, 06:17:40 PM
1. It costs less than an anger management class.
2. It works better.
3. Did you just get here?
4. This is kinda the point of the thread: Raging.

5. My answer to your question is yes; it is definitely necessary because I suck bollocks at these games and to tell the truth I'm am impatient person. Translation: I should really stop playing these games but I'm too addicted to them to give a shit.

Just want to pop in to say that it'd be great if you could seriously dial back the massive walls of capslock F-bombs. Yes, this is a rage thread. And yes, there are limits regarding posting content, even in a rage thread. This is why I spoilertagged your post. But even seeing a massive wall of black lines is kind of disruptive, too.

I realize it's a lot of fun to say "fuck" and all, but try expanding your vocabulary and ignoring capslock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 08:37:14 PM
- Just check his registration date dude. And take it from your fellow posters, he's been around for a while.

I meant "Did you just start reading this thread?".

Also,

YEAH FUCK YEAH BYAKUREN I FREAKING DID IT (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18077) SCREW YOU YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH-

...Apologies for that, Tengukami. Just wanted to get one last burst out there (And to tell the truth considering my reason it's worth saying that) I'm just incredibly elated at my eventual win (And the fact that I didn't bomb or die more than an overall total of 3 times during the last spell makes it better) against the biggest prick of a boss in the series.

I realize it's a lot of fun to say "fuck" and all, but try expanding your vocabulary and ignoring capslock.

Yeah, I suppose I'll dial it back. My pillows won't like it though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 08:41:58 PM
Effing Extra Stage, why do you do this to me?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: DelichiousApple on January 12, 2012, 08:44:26 PM
Nice, congrats on your UFO 1cc.  :derp:
Enjoy the Extra Stage, Nue is pretty fun~
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 12, 2012, 08:58:31 PM
Effing Extra Stage, why do you do this to me?


The stage or the boss....or both?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 09:00:19 PM

The stage or the boss....or both?

The stage, not so much. I can handle it but it likes to kill me.

The Midboss' last card is my latest reach. I died on it with two bombs in stock  :blush:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 12, 2012, 09:05:39 PM
The stage, not so much. I can handle it but it likes to kill me.

The Midboss' last card is my latest reach. I died on it with two bombs in stock  :blush:
Moving a lot in the first fairies is helpful. IT also helps you power to kill the red arrod bullet faires fast ad they will lead into a wave with a lot of power-drop fairies that are easy to kill.

The spiiny things with red glowing bullets. directional but try and kill them fast.;

MAss shot fairies. Have been told, and know now form experience, that it is wise to be on about the middle, (more to the side the fairies are going to when the mass insanity starts.)

Kogasa fist spell: mirco dodge like a son of a  b****.

Kogaga second spell: for me it's bomb foder cause I can't cap it to save my life.

Kogasa third spell: read carefully since the lag time between when the lasers stop and fire is super low. it helps a bit to start moving in the direction their spinning when they are about stop. give you a bit of a better read on it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on January 12, 2012, 09:27:09 PM
...Apologies for that, Tengukami. Just wanted to get one last burst out there (And to tell the truth considering my reason it's worth saying that) I'm just incredibly elated at my eventual win (And the fact that I didn't bomb or die more than an overall total of 3 times during the last spell makes it better) against the biggest prick of a boss in the series. Yeah, I suppose I'll dial it back. My pillows won't like it though.

Hey, no worries. And congrats on getting farther than I ever did in UFO!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 12, 2012, 09:58:27 PM
SA. Lunatic. 90fps. Killed by Okuu's second nonspell with 4/5 of a life.
2 deaths in stage two. That was bad.
No deaths in stage three. That was good.
Total disaster in stage four. :(
I could've won if I weren't a fool.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 10:21:12 PM
SA. Lunatic. 90fps. Killed by Okuu's second nonspell with 4/5 of a life.
2 deaths in stage two. That was bad.
No deaths in stage three. That was good.
Total disaster in stage four. :(
I could've won if I weren't a fool.

Which group do you play as? Satori-Patchouli's cards (Fighting Satori with MarisaB) are kinda easy, even for the standards that SA sets. If you play as Reimu A, I fucking hate Satori. She is an absolute jerk and I have only captured Double Black Death Butterfly once.

Hey, no worries. And congrats on getting farther than I ever did in UFO!

Thanks~!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 10:47:10 PM
(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12856/13164698.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 12, 2012, 10:47:46 PM
Me tired of TD hard no bombs trial...
Goes regular lunatic (without any lunatic clears to date)...
Gets raped by Kyouko and Yoshika...
Goes bomb'n'trance-fest style but still cant get to stage 4 without at least 1 death :wat:

Is it a good way to improve skill, or should i go back and concentrate on my main goal ???
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 12, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12856/13164698.jpg)

Yeah well, it might come as a shock but UFO actually kinda lives up to its difficulty names. You might wanna save this one for later. Its probably up there with some of the easy Lunatics. It's also quite a huge leap from Normal mode in the sense that it turns once harmless attacks into something that's actually pretty darn tough.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 12, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Yeah well, it might come as a shock but UFO actually kinda lives up to its difficulty names. You might wanna save this one for later. Its probably up there with some of the easy Lunatics. It's also quite a huge leap from Normal mode in the sense that it turns once harmless attacks into something that's actually pretty darn tough.

NAZRIN PENDULUM'S A BITCH
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 12, 2012, 11:48:47 PM
Well that one is actually a bit odd in the sense that it's a lot different from the Lunatic version, imo making it harder. You'll want to memorise a pattern to deal with this card. Once you get that down you shouldn't have too much trouble with it but if it proves to be too bothersome then just bomb it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 13, 2012, 12:18:49 AM
Which group do you play as? Satori-Patchouli's cards (Fighting Satori with MarisaB) are kinda easy, even for the standards that SA sets. If you play as Reimu A, I fucking hate Satori. She is an absolute jerk and I have only captured Double Black Death Butterfly once.
Playing as Marisa in SA is like piloting a battleship inside a china shop. And that's at 60fps.
And I no-deathed Satori anyway. The deaths were all in the stage. :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 13, 2012, 12:22:52 AM
Playing as Marisa in SA is like piloting a battleship inside a china shop. And that's at 60fps.

I disagree. As long as you have enough control, Marisa is easy to use. She's actually good for scoring runs if you think about it. She's fast which means she can go to the Point of Collection before Yuugi's sake even drop more point items fall off of the screen. She's also got a huge graze hitbox which is good for increasing the score multiplier.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 13, 2012, 12:32:01 AM
I believe the PoC is pretty pointless in SA becuase you just graze-collect everything, and I didn't think her graze hitbox was any bigger. :wat: Though Marisa does have the record scores on every difficulty except Lunatic (I think) so maybe you're right about scoring.
But have you done Lunatic as Marisa? The problem isn't so much her speed as it is her huge hitbox.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 13, 2012, 01:34:12 AM
(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12856/13164698.jpg)
Because it's brutal.  I was attempting it and MoF lunatic at the same time.  UFO hard came second, after twice as many tries.
Save UFO hard for later, probably for last hard mode.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 13, 2012, 01:46:49 AM
I believe the PoC is pretty pointless in SA becuase you just graze-collect everything, and I didn't think her graze hitbox was any bigger. :wat: Though Marisa does have the record scores on every difficulty except Lunatic (I think) so maybe you're right about scoring.
But have you done Lunatic as Marisa? The problem isn't so much her speed as it is her huge hitbox.

I can't even beat SA on Easy :c
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on January 13, 2012, 01:49:56 AM
Creating a replay of the stage portion of PCB Stage 4 for a friend.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7447212/thReplay/th07/th7_udMK01.rpy

Was gonna be a no-deaths one, but FINAL CARD STUPID DEATH D:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 13, 2012, 01:56:50 AM
Fuck Total Purification. This is worse than Tree-Ocean of Hourai by far.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 13, 2012, 04:13:44 AM
MoF ultra hard, perfect Stage 1.
Same run, worst ever Hina (4 bombs)

Next attempt, get to Nitori with full power for the first time ever!
use 6 bombs.
Die twice before Momiji, auto-fail run.

WHY do all my runs that do better than ever ALWAYS fail stupidly?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 13, 2012, 06:49:36 AM
WHY YOU HATE ME UFO
Kogasa - midboss card *clip*, 1st spell *wall*, 2nd nonspell *clip*, 2nd spell *hax out of no where*, 3rd spell *wall*

On a side note, I managed to capture Kogasa's first card once, and that's with SanaeB 3.xx power. Serious luck shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 13, 2012, 07:23:18 AM
Holy fuck, Yukari, why are you so slow in IN?
Doing IN Extra 120 FPS btw.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 13, 2012, 08:29:52 AM
I disagree. As long as you have enough control, Marisa is easy to use. She's actually good for scoring runs if you think about it. She's fast which means she can go to the Point of Collection before Yuugi's sake even drop more point items fall off of the screen. She's also got a huge graze hitbox which is good for increasing the score multiplier.

Nobody is better than others for score runs. All shot types are grouped individually. Also, I've read some of your posts complaining about clipdeath. I know you haven't probably played SA Lunatic seriously but let me just point this out to you. Compared to Marisa, Reimu doesn't know the concept of clipdeath.

She kinda has this interesting ability to get herself killed on easy and static patterns simply because said patterns are dense. You won't see any of this on Normal mode.

EDIT: Fuck my skills today. They don't work. At all! I even went as far as game over'ing on Route A1 in Fairy Wars on Hard. Does. Not. Fucking. Happen.
Except for today apparently. Off-days sucks balls. Especially when they happen when you are motivated to do something. Which is just about never recently especially since the latest Touhou game didn't deliver the package it should've done. But then I get to play Fairy Wars and realize, whoa ZUN you can make patterns? Why didn't I see that back then? And start playing it. So yeah. I suck today and thought I'd tell a tragic story. Boo hoo, ha ha, fuck. I'm leaving. Of to buy a mountain of Cola and a mountain of something edible and start playing something more relaxing while I ponder on an excuse for why I didn't go to school today.

PS: On the bright side, I did manage a Gold on Sapphire's midboss card in Stage 3. So I at least managed to pull something off today.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on January 13, 2012, 04:52:31 PM
MoF hard.

Perfect Minoriko.
1B Hina.
Perfect Nitori.
1DInfiniteB Aya (an "ok" run)

Then I die to the "death fairy" before midboss Sanae. This has literally NEVER happened before.

Then I bomb her stuff as usual.

Then I die a horrible horrible derp death right before the boss starts.
Then I die a horrible horrible derp death to pretty much her FIRST walling wave, by running into it.
Then I get clipped by her lasers. Yawn.

Then I'm completely infuriated in how I ruined the run and proceed to perfect what's left of her.

Then I get to Kanako.

And derp at the last second of the  first non-spell.

And derp to the slow green-red bullet spell.

And derp to the first wave of Yamato Torus.

GG.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHhhhh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on January 13, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
OMFG Always this needs to stop. Always use bombs. fuck sake, Byakuren you hoe.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 14, 2012, 12:24:05 AM
NUE STOP KILLING ME ON DANMAKU CHIMERA

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 14, 2012, 12:55:31 AM
UFO...why do you hate Marisa so? I get eaten alive by stage four every time I try with either Marisa and I can do them just fine with Reimu and Sanae so seriously.... wtf?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 14, 2012, 01:03:28 AM
UFO...why do you hate Marisa so? I get eaten alive by stage four every time I try with either Marisa and I can do them just fine with Reimu and Sanae so seriously.... wtf?

Shortwave Marisa or Laser Marisa? Shortwave Marisa sucks, she's fucking weak.

Laser Marisa, however, you just need to be good at dodging to be good at using her. I've 1cc'd UFO with her before.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 14, 2012, 01:12:28 AM
Shortwave Marisa or Laser Marisa? Shortwave Marisa sucks, she's fucking weak.

Laser Marisa, however, you just need to be good at dodging to be good at using her. I've 1cc'd UFO with her before.

Both. Shortwave is actually decent when shotgunning and the lasers make short work of Nazrin's last card. =)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 14, 2012, 01:19:55 AM
UFO...why do you hate Marisa so? I get eaten alive by stage four every time I try with either Marisa and I can do them just fine with Reimu and Sanae so seriously.... wtf?
The game is trying to tell you, "do not use Marisa."
I agree with it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 14, 2012, 01:43:17 AM
The game is trying to tell you, "do not use Marisa."
I agree with it.

while I find a LOT of your advice very helpful with situations Zil, I am gonna have to say "Nonsense!" on this one. My current goal is to beat all extra stages with some form of a Marisa shot type. (seeing as Marisa is my all time favorite Touhou character). =D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 01:59:55 AM
Marisa is stronger than Reimu and can kill enemies, bosses, mid-bosses, whatever, quicker. The only problem I experienced with her is her speed. But other than that, she is perfectly fine to use. I've 1cc'd UFO Normal Mode when I was a decent player with her.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 14, 2012, 02:03:18 AM
Marisa is stronger than Reimu and can kill enemies, bosses, mid-bosses, whatever, quicker. The only problem I experienced with her is her speed. But other than that, she is perfectly fine to use. I've 1cc'd UFO Normal Mode when I was a decent player with her.

yeah for that goal I have only 10-13 to do with her. the others are already done.....save for Yukari.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 14, 2012, 02:04:33 AM
And now for a WTF moment....


Why the hell can't I ever cap Sakuya's last card......on ANY difficulty? (her second boss card on Normal or higher can be a biiiig pain too)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 02:08:51 AM
Are you talking about the EoSD one? Oh, if so, your talking about Maid Secret Skill "Killing Doll"  right?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 14, 2012, 02:13:29 AM
Are you talking about the EoSD one? Oh, if so, your talking about Maid Secret Skill "Killing Doll"  right?

Yes Killing Doll (Marionette on easy and Normal). and her second card (of which I can not remember the name).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 02:17:20 AM
List of Sakuya's Cards:
Conjuring "Misdirection"
Conjuring "Illusional Misdirection"
Illusion Existence "Clock Corpse"
Illusion Image "Luna Clock"
Maid Secret Skill "Marionette"
Illusion Ghost "Jack the Ludo Bile"
Illusion World "The World"
Maid Secret Skill "Killing Doll"

Tell me which one of these are hard and maybe I can help you. I cleared Sakuya with a maximum of 6 lives left before Remilia. But Flandre utterly kills me >.>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 14, 2012, 03:10:33 AM
You can screw up her second spell (ZA WARUDO!) by moving upscreen before she places the knives, since they appear a set distance from you.
Killing Doll is one of the hardest spells in the game.
while I find a LOT of your advice very helpful with situations Zil, I am gonna have to say "Nonsense!" on this one. My current goal is to beat all extra stages with some form of a Marisa shot type. (seeing as Marisa is my all time favorite Touhou character). =D
Well in that case it's understandable. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 14, 2012, 04:11:53 AM
Well in that case it's understandable. :D
MarisaA was my first UFO normal 1cc, on my first time ever using a Marisa.
That's the game telling you to use her.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 14, 2012, 05:17:14 AM
My first UFO 1cc was ReimuB, and I formulated my UFO Route on the fly. Stages 1 and 2 were lives, 3 was either lives or bombs, whichever you wanted, 4 was whatever you lost in stage 3, 5 was whatever you lost in stage 4, and Stage 6 is just HOARD HOARD HOARD HOARD HOARD HOARD
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 14, 2012, 06:07:31 AM
Fuck Parsee. Fuck Yugi. And above all else, fuck Yamame. I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 14, 2012, 07:07:40 AM
Earlier today, I decided to pass the time by playing UFO extra.

I lost.







Do you know how long it's been since I've legitimately lost? XD This is great!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 02:27:24 PM
I can't play UFO, MoF, SA, and PoFV anymore since my cousin deleted it for MUGEN and his files -.-.  Guess what I did, I deleted all of his files on my PC XD. Well, he is visiting this week and he's gonna go hog the PC. I'm not gonna chat with my other cousins so he can hog the PC...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 14, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
I can't play UFO, MoF, SA, and PoFV anymore since my cousin deleted it for MUGEN and his files -.-.  Guess what I did, I deleted all of his files on my PC XD. Well, he is visiting this week and he's gonna go hog the PC. I'm not gonna chat with my other cousins so he can hog the PC...
Like that's gonna get rid of the problem. It is your PC (or simply your immediate family's), right? Tell him he has no right to delete your stuff without your permission.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on January 14, 2012, 03:22:35 PM
Stage 4 and 5 UFO why do you hate me and partially stage 6 too. Some derpy death at stage 4, 7 lives down to 3 when i clear that stage -.-"
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 03:27:33 PM
It is my own PC and he never listens to me since he never listens to girls -_-. He says boys are "superior" in every way. Can't lock the door to my rooms since it's broken.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 14, 2012, 03:42:41 PM
It is my own PC and he never listens to me since he never listens to girls -_-. He says boys are "superior" in every way. Can't lock the door to my rooms since it's broken.
In that case some outside discipline would be needed to teach him otherwise (how effective that can be depends on how old he is though). If this is your own PC, does that mean others in your family also have one?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: DelichiousApple on January 14, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
Yuyu-sama, if it's your PC, then why don't you put a password so he can't access it?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 14, 2012, 04:47:46 PM
Yuyu-sama, if it's your PC, then why don't you put a password so he can't access it?
This was what I was getting to, pretty much. I needed to make sure the rest of her family didn't need the PC (where a password would hinder whatever they needed to do). But yeah, if you can, just set it up with a password and make sure the computer's not active whenever you're not using it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 04:49:17 PM
I did. But, I always forget to log out. Well too lazy. I just go to get a snack for example and he comes up to my room and next thing you know, " Let me finish!!!! " shit. Well, he's gonna blow up to tiny pieces of shit when he sees his precious MUGEN at my PC gone.  I should really learn to log out though -_-.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on January 14, 2012, 05:07:52 PM
I did. But, I always forget to log out. Well too lazy. I just go to get a snack for example and he comes up to my room and next thing you know, " Let me finish!!!! " shit. Well, he's gonna blow up to tiny pieces of shit when he sees his precious MUGEN at my PC gone.  I should really learn to log out though -_-.

Simply, tough luck to him then, tell him to GTFO. And get it on his own pc. Harsh, but hey no more issues, haha
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 05:09:20 PM
Never been that mean before at real life but worth a try xD.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 14, 2012, 06:08:44 PM
EHHHHH
How is it that an 8-year-old who can almost 1-credit her way to the Prismriver Sisters on Easy
Cannot beat TD!Yuyuko on Easy?!

How is it... that I can't beat TD!Yuyuko, but I can beat PCB!Yuyuko on normal?!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 14, 2012, 06:31:09 PM
TD Yuyuko? Well, she is technically trolling you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 14, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
> Enters "Falling Stars on the Divine Spirit Mausoleum" with 0.4 lives and 0.25 bombs and 3.00 trance

LET'S ROCK THIS

> Blue phase begins
> Miko is immune to Trance

FJSWDYAOSNFUAOSFBGIQOWNZUEODBVFAWKXZWEBVEKOEN
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 14, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
I died to Froggy Braves the Elements, costing me 150,000,000 points or so.
(also I need to find a better bombing path for the start of the stage)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 14, 2012, 08:42:59 PM
After some TD lunatic practice i decided to take a break and play some normal lol. First 3 stages went perfect and i thought i may do a perfect run of the whole game... But i derped to "Corpse Tongji" (aka Tongling Yoshika on harder modes) probably cause to falling asleep :X
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Matt on January 14, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
Managed to get to the prismriver sisters on PCB, then of course i get derped by Lyrica opening BS spellcard... Bombed my way through it and i still ended up dieing to all 3...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 15, 2012, 02:33:26 AM
Ow, my elbow. For some reason it's acting up, maybe I was leaning on it wrong. Why did it have to act up while in the middle of playing though? No fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 15, 2012, 03:22:48 AM
Just tried playing as Marisa in SA.

Do I need to say any more?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 15, 2012, 03:44:02 AM
Just tried playing as Marisa in SA.

Do I need to say any more?

God dammit guys she's not that fucking bad. I got to Utsuho with MarisaB just as easily (When I say "Just as easily" in this case, I mean just as eye-goringly irritating) as ReimuA. So what if she's got 16 more pixels of hitbox area? So fucking what? Sure on Lunatic it's fucking hell, but on Normal, where you SHOULD try new shot types, she's decent enough. Hell, I've fit through small gaps with her sometimes BETTER than Reimu A (Probably because I work better with speed, not ease).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 15, 2012, 04:07:37 AM
Given Malkyrian's posting history, I don't think he (she?) was playing on Normal. Granted, it's been ages since I've seen SA Hard, so I don't know how much of a factor Marisa's hitbox is there.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 15, 2012, 04:24:10 AM
I'm such a pro at Flying Fantastica (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18132)
I've yet to clear UFO on Normal :< Only Windows game in which I've failed to do so at this moment. I've cleared 4 games on Hard already. Yet again, UFO is a difficult game
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 15, 2012, 04:27:21 AM
I was killed by Subterranean Sun at full power. :qq:
I don't know how to express my anger right now, but at least it is quickly turning into misery.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 15, 2012, 04:30:28 AM
SA is the hardest Touhou game actually. You got a crow spamming giant nuclear balls at you. A damn miracle shrine maiden spamming unpredictable bullets. And a Girl who mindrapes you. Let's not forget that Vague Satori.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 15, 2012, 04:49:20 AM
I think UFO is harder, personally. At least on Lunatic. I'm not insane enough to play that at 90fps though. Not yet anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 15, 2012, 06:21:18 AM
I was killed by Subterranean Sun.
Ugh it happened again. And in my fury I did not save the replay. Again. :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 15, 2012, 06:43:17 AM
:qq: I fucking hate Rin so god damn much

All of her cards (Besides Blazing Wheel) Are pains in the ass in their own ways.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 15, 2012, 07:05:20 AM
(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12929/13240156.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 15, 2012, 02:21:39 PM
Nue is the new sister of Flandre
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 15, 2012, 09:03:40 PM
I just tried to 1cc Touhou 8 Normal with Yukari Solo. I enjoy doing this, but I game over'd on Astronomical Entombing like a moron.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 15, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
List of Sakuya's Cards:
Conjuring "Misdirection"
Conjuring "Illusional Misdirection"
Illusion Existence "Clock Corpse"
Illusion Image "Luna Clock"
Maid Secret Skill "Marionette"
Illusion Ghost "Jack the Ludo Bile"
Illusion World "The World"
Maid Secret Skill "Killing Doll"

Tell me which one of these are hard and maybe I can help you. I cleared Sakuya with a maximum of 6 lives left before Remilia. But Flandre utterly kills me >.>

Maid Secret Skill Marionette/Killing Doll. I can't cap this set of cards, even on easy (did once by dumb luck but I'd still love to know if there is some sort of key to it.)

As for Flan, I might be able to help you, I've beaten her with 3 different shot types (Marisa A and Reimu A and B).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 15, 2012, 10:03:11 PM
For Marionette I just go around the bullets then infront of Sakuya. 2 seconds later I go down a bit for the knives. As for killing doll, it's either your dodging skills or just pure luck.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 15, 2012, 11:23:08 PM
On pace to go beat that 777 million ReimuA run currently leading the tournament...and I have a random sun spawn on me at the very end of Suwa War.  THEN I derp Mishaguji-sama.  This wouldn't have been a problem except i capped Froggy Braves the Elements, unlike usual.  I did bomb Red Frog though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 16, 2012, 12:15:56 AM
Someone please agree with me when I say that Miko's nons are harder than her spells ._.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 16, 2012, 12:19:33 AM
Maid Secret Skill Marionette/Killing Doll. I can't cap this set of cards, even on easy (did once by dumb luck but I'd still love to know if there is some sort of key to it.)

Bear in mind that Killing Doll's red wave is aimed, so you can move left or right after she resumes time and have less bullets to dodge. Obviously this may be a problem after the first wave.


How do you do the end section of self-spawning bullets in Phantasm? It's really annoying me because I either die or use a bomb there and I can never get to Yukari with more than 3 lives because of it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 12:27:40 AM
I agree with you Chisou.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 16, 2012, 12:46:43 AM
Bear in mind that Killing Doll's red wave is aimed, so you can move left or right after she resumes time and have less bullets to dodge. Obviously this may be a problem after the first wave.


How do you do the end section of self-spawning bullets in Phantasm? It's really annoying me because I either die or use a bomb there and I can never get to Yukari with more than 3 lives because of it.


Ah I see, Does this work the same for easy and normal?

And as for your other with Phantasm, I can return the favor.

Start middle and go right when the first 3 sets of them that spawn in the middle fire off. Go up and get ready to stream the next few sets from the top left all the way around to the bottom left (at this point the big X spread of them should have fired.) Reposition yourself back up top again and get ready to move quickly left and right to avoid being hit by the two 4 spawns the the 9 that follows (four go left, four go right, nine go left. All this is really depednent on your poisitioning.) when the next couple of wave follwoing the begin to spawn, you want to be at the top righ to make the last 3 of the spwan easier. After the 9 shoots off get to the top right and stream the next few until you are about the upper left edge of the screen, right under the spawning circle for the fast waves, go left and right as each wave fire and do Not stop moving or you will die.


If it helps any, I can upload the one replay I have where I beat phantasm. it shows how I get through there with no bombs and deaths at that part. =D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 16, 2012, 12:47:00 AM
Someone please agree with me when I say that Miko's nons are harder than her spells ._.

Except for her 6th card, I agree with this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 12:49:54 AM
  :flowerpower:
Anyone else think Yuuka lunatic at PoFV with giant flowers and a lot of fairies is outright mindfuck?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 16, 2012, 03:40:07 AM
Someone please agree with me when I say that Miko's nons are harder than her spells ._.
Yup.
Anyone else think Yuuka lunatic at PoFV with giant flowers and a lot of fairies is outright mindfuck?
Basically everyone is without continual use of level 2 spells. Yuuka actually seems to be one of the easier opponents though, simply because she dies sooner for no reason.
How do you do the end section of self-spawning bullets in Phantasm? It's really annoying me because I either die or use a bomb there and I can never get to Yukari with more than 3 lives because of it.
Well, what Flandre said may be a good way to do it, but personally I can't make heads or tails of it. :]
I assume you mean the very last phase where they seem to appear all around you. Just stay at middle elevation (make sure the "glyphs" don't appear at the same height as you) and move horizontally. Start at one side and dash to the other when they fire. Reverse direction when the next set fires.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 16, 2012, 04:27:04 AM
Well, what Flandre said may be a good way to do it, but personally I can't make heads or tails of it. :]
I assume you mean the very last phase where they seem to appear all around you. Just stay at middle elevation (make sure the "glyphs" don't appear at the same height as you) and move horizontally. Start at one side and dash to the other when they fire. Reverse direction when the next set fires.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18157

THis may help clear things up if my instructions do not. Please excuse how bad I do at this but I won the fight by luck (and a f*** ton of bombing during her last card, still bites getting to Border of Life and Death with no lives.) =D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 16, 2012, 05:22:42 AM
How do you do the end section of self-spawning bullets in Phantasm? It's really annoying me because I either die or use a bomb there and I can never get to Yukari with more than 3 lives because of it.

Guys, here's how I did that part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QIWyalU_Xzw#t=190s).

If you don't want to watch, here's what I do: Follow the Extra pattern, but on what would normally be Extra's last wave, head to the lower right instead of the upper right, then go up when the self-spawning bullets fire. After that, it's all simple except for the last wave, where you just want to get to one side before they start firing, then start alternating between the left and right side as they shoot. This causes you to evade the bullets (No shit, Esu) due to their location being on where you just were, or "Why can't I kill this last fucker on Space Invaders" Syndrome, or WCIKTLFoSIS for short.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 16, 2012, 05:25:48 AM
Basically everyone is without continual use of level 2 spells. Yuuka actually seems to be one of the easier opponents though, simply because she dies sooner for no reason.
Yuuka is slow and cannot dodge as well due to that.
Would Marisa be the level 2 spam exception?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 16, 2012, 05:48:08 AM
hey Esupanitix , I have a situation you might be familiar with. I'm at Byakuren in normal with 7 lives and 1 bomb with, thankfully, Mairsa A. There is no possible way this could end badly. =D *hopes I'm right*

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ark on January 16, 2012, 11:40:17 AM
FUCK YOU TEWI.

I did 3 IN Lunatic no bomb attempts today. All 3 ended on Tewi.

WHY AM I SO BAD FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 16, 2012, 12:33:56 PM
hey Esupanitix , I have a situation you might be familiar with. I'm at Byakuren in normal with 7 lives and 1 bomb with, thankfully, Mairsa A. There is no possible way this could end badly. =D *hopes I'm right*

If you did win, fuck you good job.

If you lost, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you have all of my condolences.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 16, 2012, 08:14:53 PM
Someone please agree with me when I say that Miko's nons are harder than her spells ._.
+1 Especially second and third. Many of my runs were ruined by them. And overall Miko fight is too long (almost like a mini extra boss). I aim to 1CC TD on lunatic now, so this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB99lrfLRwE) is how i fight Miko :flamingv:

But now my rage is aimed to Seiga and Yoshika. Got to stage 4 without deaths, captured Guhun Yegui by some sheer magic (No magic. This card is actually easier on lunatic cause of walls flying offscreen faster) and then was fucked by that couple :fail: So now i'm building my route for this stage in practice.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
Yoshika makes the fight a beast. AFTER ALL she does all the main work. Seiga acts like an inexperienced lazy danmaku bitch who ain't even shooting a challenge. Damn right Yoshika deserves more love!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 16, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
If you did win, fuck you good job.

If you lost, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you have all of my condolences.

I won, but she ate 5 of them. and also had no bombs left at the end of Flying Fantastica. I was estatic cause I got out of Murasa losing only 1 life (on her time out of course....) through Shou with only 2 deaths (one to a nonspell and the second to her final card, but that last one was a derp on my part sinc eI normally cap it.)

I'm a red ufo whore when I play. =D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 09:14:48 PM
Flying Fantastica is really easy if you get the size of the cards hitboxes. The amulets have really small hitboxes ( Size of a small round bullet or is it medium. )
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 16, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
The pattern messes with your head.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 16, 2012, 09:35:02 PM
The pattern messes with your head.

How would it mess with your head? Are you talking about how it gets more dense as Byakuren loses HP?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 09:37:53 PM
I think so. The last part you should really watch out.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 16, 2012, 09:47:43 PM
How would it mess with your head? Are you talking about how it gets more dense as Byakuren loses HP?
Because it's extremely bizarre. You've rings of bullet moving in circles while the entire ring is itself in motion. They speed up while moving in the direction of the ring and slow down when moving against it (kind of like walking on a conveyor belt or something). They may also shrink or something as they go, or maybe that just in DS. If it didn't have those lines to give you an idea of where the amulets would go it would be even harder.*

*This is all from the Lunatic perspective. I don't know about the other difficulties.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on January 16, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
It's hard because they can close in on you at unexpected times because of how weird the pattern is. If you happen to be at the bottom of the screen when one of the denser waves close in on you while another wave is closing in at a slower pace (this is very common), you're usually screwed.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 09:50:55 PM
Hard Perspective is well, hard. Normal, well let's just say it's easy. But if you mess up, you're screwed.
 :flowerpower:   :yukkuri: :yukkuri: And you have to take it easy
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on January 16, 2012, 09:59:48 PM
Well It's i don't exactly know how to properly approach the weird pattern late card when it gets dense and awkward. =) ( most of the deaths coame from simple derp on places I don't ever die on her nonspell...and that 3rd spell.......)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 16, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
How would it mess with your head? Are you talking about how it gets more dense as Byakuren loses HP?

No, I'm talking about how the pattern works in general and how the amulets doesn't need to face the direction they are moving like in other amulet cards and how many of them there are. And because;

Because it's extremely bizarre. You've rings of bullet moving in circles while the entire ring is itself in motion. They speed up while moving in the direction of the ring and slow down when moving against it (kind of like walking on a conveyor belt or something). They may also shrink or something as they go, or maybe that just in DS. If it didn't have those lines to give you an idea of where the amulets would go it would be even harder.*

*This is all from the Lunatic perspective. I don't know about the other difficulties.

Also, I'm not sure if this is just me but the line doesn't help me at all. I just need to look at the bullets and try to predict where the gaps will be.

EDIT: I could pacify this thing. Capture it consistently. So why can't I dodge Superhuman? I either misread or hit the wrong keys. What is wrong with me? I feel like my skills are fading away... when playing UFO. In anything else they work just fine. I think I need to cry a bit. Before I start crying manly tears and talk about those 3 non-spells and 2 spellcards that serve no purpose but to needlessly prolong the fight with boring tedium. But I will spare you the details!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 16, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
You're all overthinking Flying Fantastica/LFO. Rather than focus on how it is constructed, there's two important things to keep in mind: Each blast is fired based on your position (and therefore micromemorizable), and, without bothering to figure out exactly how it works, it's clear to me that the bullets are designed to converge on the point it is aimed at. Keeping these two things in mind, you can construct movement patterns that make things a lot easier to dodge. Of course, it also requires some quick reaction times and even quicker movements. Which is why it's one of my favorites. :>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 16, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
You're all overthinking Flying Fantastica/LFO.

Yes.

Quote
Rather than focus on how it is constructed, there's two important things to keep in mind: Each blast is fired based on your position (and therefore micromemorizable), and, without bothering to figure out exactly how it works, it's clear to me that the bullets are designed to converge on the point it is aimed at. Keeping these two things in mind, you can construct movement patterns that make things a lot easier to dodge. Of course, it also requires some quick reaction times and even quicker movements. Which is why it's one of my favorites. :>

Yes. Thank you. Someone who doesn't fucking overthink these god damn cards. The fact that there are rings connecting the amulets makes me think of them as single bullets with multiple hitboxes.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 16, 2012, 11:34:46 PM
As if micromemorizing the card isn't overthinking it. :derp:
Alright, if you haven't memorized it, then it's confusing. If you have then I suppose it's easy.
But which is more likely to be the case when going for a first clear?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 17, 2012, 01:25:41 AM
But which is more likely to be the case when going for a first clear?

Obviously the ":derp: :derp: :derp: what do I do :derp:" situation.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 17, 2012, 01:41:01 AM
Obviously the ":derp: :derp: :derp: what do I do :derp:" situation.

That's when you start moving in circles randomly and hope you don't get hit.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 17, 2012, 01:48:41 AM
All of a sudden I'm dying left and right on Superhuman as well. I would say "at least I have the excuse of not being able to play for a month", if Superhuman were actually a hard card like the stuff around it. Don't worry Zengeku, you're not alone in your frustration.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 17, 2012, 11:23:22 AM
Don't worry Zengeku, you're not alone in your frustration.

Its the Byakuren curse!

Definition: Being able to get yourself up to a reasonably consistent 1DNB on all bosses in the game with occasional perfects but still having Byakuren be a brick wall.
Byakuren will make sure that when you read things right, your fingers will screw up. When you don't read things right, you just die anyway.

And what have you, now I've even started messing up the fucking Butterfly card. Fuck that one.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on January 17, 2012, 12:23:57 PM
This is the thread where we get mad at PCB Extra right
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/VgameT/pcbe1d.jpg)
Izuna Gongennnnnnnnnn
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 17, 2012, 11:24:31 PM
FUCK YOU KOGASA WHY DO YOU SUDDENLY BE A COMPLETE AND UTTER BITCH WITH YOUR STUPID FUCKING WALLING SPELLS AND HTGILOEHGIOLWRHGOIDEHGOIEQHFVGOISAHFGOLIWEHGOISEHGOLISDHGOIWERHGO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 18, 2012, 06:33:39 AM
This is the thread where we get mad at PCB Extra right

Izuna Gongennnnnnnnnn
Wrong spell to get pissed off at.
(not so) CHARMING SIEGE FROM ALL SIDES
WHY ARE YOU SO CHEAP WITH YOUR WALLS EVERY ATTEMPT
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on January 18, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
In my last 3 runs I actually captured Charming Siege all 3 times and failed Izuna Gongen all 3 times
but yeah it does suck, no denying that
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Raikaria on January 18, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
I died on Wound Sign: Pain Flwo for the first ever time.

How?

HIT AFTER HINA HAD DIED, as in, 1 second afterwards.

Dying while Spell Bonus is on the screen is weird ._.

*Boss Death Explosion*
...
*Pichuun!*
What ._.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 19, 2012, 08:41:16 PM
Fucking cold, can't play two seconds of Touhou without- *PICHUUN*

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 19, 2012, 09:00:40 PM
Fucking Charming Siege. Ran, you need to be the new Yukari!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 20, 2012, 03:18:17 AM
PCB extra.
Ran's 7th nonspell.
WHY YOU KILL ME IN A PERFECT
At least I found a better strategy for  a few spells abusing ReimuB's shotgunning-including a trivial strat for Princess Tenko.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 20, 2012, 05:23:46 AM
UFO lunatic. Finally reached Murasa without continuing. Why is it in the rage thread?
- accidentally ate a blinking UFO in stage 1 while a big red UFO was still on the screen
- died to Nazrin's last card
- died twice to Ichirin's opener (wtf)
- died to midboss Nue
- died immediately to the wave of pink bullets RIGHT AFTER Nue
- died to Murasa's first card (!!!)
Other necessary deaths added together, I spent 10 lives. This game is freaking brutal.

I'm fairly pleased with my improvised stage 3 circling though. Summoned 2 red UFO and used only 1 bomb.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 20, 2012, 11:17:51 PM
FUCK YOU LETTY. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO FUCKING SCREW ME OVER WHENEVER I'M FUCKING SICK?! EVEN ON NORMAL YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE PAIN IN THE ASS WHEN I FEEL AS IF I AM ABOUT TO LET LOOSE ENOUGH COUGHS TO EQUAL THE WIND STRENGTH OF A FUCKING TORNADO?!

OH AND IT'S NOT JUST FUCKING LETTY. KOGASA DECIDED TO KILL ME FIVE TIMES TODAY. ON NORMAL. IN ONE RUN. I CAN PERFECT RUN THROUGH STAGE ON UFO WITHOUT BOMBING OR DYING AND I STILL DIE TO THAT STUPID FUCKING FIRST CARD OF HERS JUST BECAUSE I'M USING THE NEEDLE REIMU THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE SHITTY ONE OF THE SERIES IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER SHOT TYPES.

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON WHAT FELT LIKE SEVENTEEN DIFFERENT ATTEMPTS AT TOUHOU 6 STAGE 6 JUST TRYING TO FUCKING PERFECT IT EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A FUCKING COLD THAT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THE SMALLEST ATTEMPT BY AN ANT TO BEND MY PINKY BACKWARDS WOULD SNAP IT.

FUCK.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 20, 2012, 11:40:29 PM
TAO Taidou on lunatic was easy. Oh look, overdrive unlocked! Let's try it...

Some time later: I'm tired of it, let's see history... 0/262  :fail: Fuck this shit :P
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 21, 2012, 12:54:56 AM
"I haven't tried Ten Desires lunatic in a while"
*fails twice because derp before Yuyuko
"Oh right, that's why: IT'S NOT FUN"

Oh, and you know how Ran has no hitbox during Princess Tenko?  APPARENTLY SHE DOES FOR A FEW SECONDS
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 21, 2012, 03:15:49 AM
Oh, and you know how Ran has no hitbox during Princess Tenko?  APPARENTLY SHE DOES FOR A FEW SECONDS

(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/2/1e3b2e07-e8f5-4650-a025-22092d83f597.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 21, 2012, 03:21:22 AM
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/2/1e3b2e07-e8f5-4650-a025-22092d83f597.jpg)
My thoughts exactly. No wonder i fail at that card
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ark on January 21, 2012, 09:24:03 AM
MoF Normal scorerunning.

Stage 4. Every goddamn time, something kills me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on January 21, 2012, 04:23:35 PM

Oh, and you know how Ran has no hitbox during Princess Tenko?  APPARENTLY SHE DOES FOR A FEW SECONDS

...How else would you be able to shoot her? It'd be a survival card if she didn't, silly. V:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 21, 2012, 05:13:27 PM
I think you're confusing "hitbox" with "hurtbox" here. I've never bothered to test it myself for obvious reasons, but I suspect he meant that Ran still keeps her hitbox a few seconds past the start of the card, after which she loses it and you become free to move on top of her for the remainder of the attack. And of course she can be hit by your shots anytime she's visible, which is a separate thing from her being able to hit you through direct contact.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 21, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
FUCKING KOGASA STOP BEING A DICK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 21, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
3 Lives going into Shou. Lost 2 at Vajra. Entered Byakuren on last life and 3 bombs. Died to Fragrance of Makai Butterfly without bombing.
Wat
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 21, 2012, 09:47:27 PM
MoF Lunatic no-bombs attempt. I manage to get to boss-Sanae with 4 lives after (finally) a pretty good run through the Great Filter.

I die on each of her spells except Moses' Miracle. Yes, including her last.

Goddammit. Naturally I didn't make it through the rest.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 21, 2012, 09:59:32 PM
FUCKING KOGASA STOP BEING A DICK
If it's extra, in her last card, there is a safespot below you ( Middle of the Screen )
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 21, 2012, 10:45:06 PM
If it's extra, in her last card, there is a safespot below you ( Middle of the Screen )
This is RNG based, and doesn't always work.
Also: for Kogasa, use moar froggy nukes.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 21, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
This is RNG based, and doesn't always work.
Also: for Kogasa, use moar froggy nukes.

Hmm, works for me, but Froggy nukes it is.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 21, 2012, 10:53:07 PM
Stupid captain, stop taking out my lives. I really need them for Shou and Byakuren
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 22, 2012, 02:35:26 AM
This is RNG based, and doesn't always work.
Also: for Kogasa, use moar froggy nukes.

Froggy nukes are cheap but UFO is cheap and I hate Kogasa

If it's extra, in her last card, there is a safespot below you ( Middle of the Screen )

Her last card in Extra is fine (In fact I wasn't talking about Extra, I was talking about Stage 2 on Hard), but it's mainly her first and second cards.

Her first card is annoying. It's essentially annoying fucking walls of hitboxes that I hate.

Her second card is more annoying. It's fast-flying and annoying fucking walls of hitboxes that I hate.

Her third card, I just don't find that hard. It's all perception for me.

Stupid captain, stop taking out my lives. I really need them for Shou and Byakuren

Which cards?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 22, 2012, 02:36:02 AM
BUTTER FINGERS WHY DO YOU MAKE ME DIE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on January 22, 2012, 02:51:19 AM
I think you're confusing "hitbox" with "hurtbox" here. I've never bothered to test it myself for obvious reasons, but I suspect he meant that Ran still keeps her hitbox a few seconds past the start of the card, after which she loses it and you become free to move on top of her for the remainder of the attack. And of course she can be hit by your shots anytime she's visible, which is a separate thing from her being able to hit you through direct contact.

Oh, so they're different then.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 22, 2012, 03:11:54 AM
So I managed to get an amazing no-bombs 1CC of Marine Benefit, where I perfect every boss except the stage 4 midboss and stage 6 boss both of which I 1-miss, and finish with 6 lives to spare.

...And then I realized I wasn't recording.  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 22, 2012, 12:10:44 PM
So I managed to get an amazing no-bombs 1CC of Marine Benefit, where I perfect every boss except the stage 4 midboss and stage 6 boss both of which I 1-miss, and finish with 6 lives to spare.

...And then I realized I wasn't recording.  >:(
Aww. That hurts, now you gotta do it again :) Btw, wich difficulty? Hard?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ark on January 22, 2012, 01:00:53 PM
SICK OF THESE DAMN 1-MISS RUNS AAAAARGHHH

FUCK YOU KANAKO
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 22, 2012, 02:53:19 PM
Quote
AW FUCK YOU CHEN! FUCK YOU!

Yeah, I hate her PCB First card ( EXTRA MODO  ) and when Ran Yakumo uses Shikigami,"Chen", I utterly die on Chen. I keep getting fucking Chenrolled!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 22, 2012, 07:06:11 PM
FDSFDLSGJLSGJEGHEWGLGDASDFDSFSDGSFRDG

I know I can clear UFO on Normal. I know I can capture St. Nikou's Air Scroll.

FDSJVGSDJGLSDVGBSDHOGBSAFSDFSDFDSGASF
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 22, 2012, 07:38:10 PM
FDSFDLSGJLSGJEGHEWGLGDASDFDSFSDGSFRDG

I know I can clear UFO on Normal. I know I can capture St. Nikou's Air Scroll.

FDSJVGSDJGLSDVGBSDHOGBSAFSDFSDFDSGASF

Here's a cake.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 23, 2012, 04:40:58 AM
FDSFDLSGJLSGJEGHEWGLGDASDFDSFSDGSFRDG

I know I can clear UFO on Normal. I know I can capture St. Nikou's Air Scroll.

FDSJVGSDJGLSDVGBSDHOGBSAFSDFSDFDSGASF

Read quote :< (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18297)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 23, 2012, 04:52:54 AM
Read quote :< (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18297)
That's just part of the process. I think everyone gets a game over to the last spell in UFO before they get the 1cc. It's Byakuren's idea of being a benevolent person. Now you're sure to get the clear soon. ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 23, 2012, 05:09:27 AM
That's just part of the process. I think everyone gets a game over to the last spell in UFO before they get the 1cc. It's Byakuren's idea of being a benevolent person. Now you're sure to get the clear soon. ;)
This.
Completely (2-3 on normal, 2 or 3 on hard).
Except I didn't fail it on easy or when I went through normal no focus, do those count  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 23, 2012, 05:24:03 AM
That's just part of the process. I think everyone gets a game over to the last spell in UFO before they get the 1cc. It's Byakuren's idea of being a benevolent person. Now you're sure to get the clear soon. ;)

Hehe, I've been through this a few times on Hard:
EoSD, IN, TD

It's just that UFO is the only windows game (out of the integer Touhou games) that I haven't cleared yet on Normal
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 23, 2012, 05:32:43 AM
Read quote :< (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18297)
that is double my highscore already  ~! ;__;
UFO is the hardest touhou game
(except PoDD)
in my opinion.
but once you use to it I'm sure it'll be very easy for you ~! ^_^
Good luck ! I'll cheer you up!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ark on January 23, 2012, 12:00:24 PM
MoF Normal ReimuA. 900 million points going into stage 6--enough for 1620M at the end.

What happens?

I die. Kanako's second card.

Why?!?? :C
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 23, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
Yeah, I hate her PCB First card ( EXTRA MODO  ) and when Ran Yakumo uses Shikigami,"Chen", I utterly die on Chen. I keep getting fucking Chenrolled!

Whenever I die on Shikigami "Chen", I died by one of the damn butterfly bullets :derp: never by getting hit by Chen. Chen's only in my area once every five seconds. It's not that hard, really.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 23, 2012, 05:20:34 PM
Dear Charming Siege . . . STOP RUIN MY SCORERUN !!!! D:<
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 23, 2012, 05:37:26 PM
FUCK YOU RAN I FUCKING HATE YOU AND YOUR STUPID PROTECTION OF ZENKI AND GOKI ALWAYS FUCKING CLIPPING ME AND MAKING ME HAVE TO FUCKING RESTART AND WHEIPOHEIOGYHWEOPGHWERIOGHOIEHBIWEOYHWEILFHOWIEGOIWERHJIORHJGIOFRHNGIOLFHOIGYHEDLJKHSDLHIOLDWEHGLIKDWHGOIDENHGLKWHGIOQWEHNFVGOLIDEHGOTDEWHnGPIOEDNfgOIEDHGowengOGH
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: cactu on January 23, 2012, 05:41:28 PM
FUCK YOU SA YOU AND YOUR NEW SHITTY NEW GAME ENGINE MAKING DODGING SO FUCKING DIFFICULT OH MY GOD YAMAMES OPENER IS SO MUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT I HAVE TO RESTART ALL THE TIME ON THAT SHIT AND WHEN I FINALLY FUCKING MAKE PAST IT OHOHOOO HERE COMES FUCKING LASER STAGE 3 GAY FUCKING BULLSHIT CLIPDEATH EVERY SINGLE TIME AND WHEN I FINALLY MAKE IT TO STAGE 4 I HAVE NO LIFES LEFT AND FFFFFFFUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK MORE LASERS AND I HAVE TO CONTINUE AND THIS CONTINUE SYSTEM SUCKS MOTHERFUCKING BALLS HOLY SHIT! STAGE 5 IS JUST AN IMPOSSIBLE WALL OF DEATH I CAN NEVER OVERCOME NEVER IN MY FUCKING LIIIIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on January 23, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
^Some epic rage, anyway, God damn those exam periods where no gaming is allowed not even one play, has made my skill suck, had to do multiple runs on stage one on MoF just to securely clear that stage. Load of balls.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 23, 2012, 10:24:03 PM
Since, I do not want to spam "Fuck [Character] " in my posts, I'll do it my quotes  :3
Quote
AW FUCK YOU CAPTAIN MOTHERFUCKING MINAMITSU MURASA! YOU KEEP FUCKING MY LIVES AND BOMBS WITH YOUR FUCKING DROPLETS AND FUCKING GAY ASS HORNY ANCHORS! AW FUCK IT! AND FUCK THAT NUE ORB! STOP SENDING FUCKING USELESS MOTHERFUCKING FAIRIES FROM YOUR FUCKING ORB SO I CAN REACH MURASA WITH LIVES! FUCK! JUST FUCK NO! NO! *Dies again* AW FUCK YOU UFO! FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Stupid Murasa. And Nue shoots Fairies that make it worse =.=/ I seriously hate the Anchors hitbox. And a survival card too? Aw, Fuck that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 23, 2012, 10:25:19 PM
FUCK YOU SA YOU AND YOUR NEW SHITTY NEW GAME ENGINE MAKING DODGING SO FUCKING DIFFICULT OH MY GOD YAMAMES OPENER IS SO MUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT I HAVE TO RESTART ALL THE TIME ON THAT SHIT AND WHEN I FINALLY FUCKING MAKE PAST IT OHOHOOO HERE COMES FUCKING LASER STAGE 3 GAY FUCKING BULLSHIT CLIPDEATH EVERY SINGLE TIME AND WHEN I FINALLY MAKE IT TO STAGE 4 I HAVE NO LIFES LEFT AND FFFFFFFUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK MORE LASERS AND I HAVE TO CONTINUE AND THIS CONTINUE SYSTEM SUCKS MOTHERFUCKING BALLS HOLY SHIT! STAGE 5 IS JUST AN IMPOSSIBLE WALL OF DEATH I CAN NEVER OVERCOME NEVER IN MY FUCKING LIIIIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Great Rage Bro. You feel mah pain when I started SA as abeginner. If you play on Lunatic Mode. I made it all the way to Okuu at easy mode. And died at her giant balls.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 23, 2012, 11:06:54 PM
Meh, pixel perfection (SA Stage 4+5) and 90 FPS doesn't mix very well. :(

I'll try it a bit more later. Right now, I'm probably too sleepy to dodge anything competently anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 23, 2012, 11:16:26 PM
Ended up not being able to get past Shou and dying 53454364325634 times on Stage 4 :<
Maybe I should've stopped trying to safespot Ichirin on her first non-card after dying that first time :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 23, 2012, 11:23:44 PM
Ended up not being able to get past Shou and dying 53454364325634 times on Stage 4 :<
Maybe I should've stopped trying to safespot Ichirin on her first non-card after dying that first time :V

There's a safespot? On what difficulty? But anyway, Murasa uses her "Mighty ass Anchor" to kill you. Like a Boss!  :flowerpower:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 23, 2012, 11:52:05 PM
There's a safespot? On what difficulty? But anyway, Murasa uses her "Mighty ass Anchor" to kill you. Like a Boss!  :flowerpower:

Place hitbox over her right eye, then graze. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18301)
(Just me testing stuff out on Stage 3)

I'm fine with Murasa anchors. It's me being reckless and trying to summon blues and rainbows while running into bullets XD
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 24, 2012, 12:06:26 AM
Place hitbox over her right eye, then graze. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18301)
(Just me testing stuff out on Stage 3)

I'm fine with Murasa anchors. It's me being reckless and trying to summon blues and rainbows while running into bullets XD

Lol. But Shou kicks us all. Shou kills ;O;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 24, 2012, 12:17:10 AM
Lol. But Shou kicks us all. Shou kills ;O;

Dat Vajra. I've yet to capture it :<
I normally can get past her and onto Byakuren, but I couldn't today T_T
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 24, 2012, 12:18:39 AM
Dat Vajra. I've yet to capture it :<
I normally can get past her and onto Byakuren, but I couldn't today T_T

Me too, but she throws unexpected twist.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Arcengal on January 24, 2012, 12:24:21 AM
I made it all the way to Okuu at easy mode. And died at her giant balls.

I laughed at this like a schoolboy. I feel silly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 24, 2012, 12:38:24 AM
I laughed at this like a schoolboy. I feel silly.

Well, I was a beginner then so yeah, right now I can almost 1cc SA. If it weren't for ORIN being a pain. But, if you took it the Negative way, WHAT THE FUCK!? THAT'S NASTY lol
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 24, 2012, 12:44:35 AM
her giant balls.
Utsuho's balls ? lol

For her spell I think hell's tokamak is pretty hard for me . :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 24, 2012, 12:48:13 AM
Utsuho's balls ? lol

For her spell I think hell's tokamak is pretty hard for me . :ohdear:

I did it the negative way now, eh!? lol!!!!!

Anyway, I can clear her a bit now. Normal mode is sorta hard and I hate her final spell. Fuck Gravity. It's like I'm gonna die at some Subterranean Sun Blackhole filled Chibi-Orins ( NO! I'm gonna be their tiny Marisa toy! ;O; )
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 24, 2012, 01:24:36 AM
FUCK KOISHI WHY IS YOUR FIRST FUCKING CARD SO GOD DAMN HARD

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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or4wh'loehgt;oerhgto;iwehgtoiwehgtiouweytoiwehgtioqawehjgtiowe
{Owrghwroighweoighqeioghweiuygiroygioerhgkiorghio;swerhtoidhg
prfghoehtgoiehgoierwhgoisdyhoihgoiwehqkjgdfoiqwehogihgoiwhgt
ghgoiwsehgoiehgioehroighdfgthseoighseoihgoiseghiosaeghioesghieg
gsoieshgsowiehioehgtoierwghiowerhgiowehgioewhgoiewhgoieswhgtesiwg
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 24, 2012, 01:27:56 AM
KOISHI WHY IS YOUR FIRST CARD SO HARD
Because you don't know how to do it.
It's really quite easy once you do.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 24, 2012, 01:58:48 AM
Because you don't know how to do it.
It's really quite easy once you do.

What's the first card again?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 24, 2012, 02:00:06 AM
FUCK KOISHI WHY IS YOUR FIRST FUCKING CARD SO GOD DAMN HARD

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

EHJTGPOLIERHGFOIHQWTHERQWIOHNTOIHRTIOENTGILTNEW"Holtp
or4wh'loehgt;oerhgto;iwehgtoiwehgtiouweytoiwehgtioqawehjgtiowe
{Owrghwroighweoighqeioghweiuygiroygioerhgkiorghio;swerhtoidhg
prfghoehtgoiehgoierwhgoisdyhoihgoiwehqkjgdfoiqwehogihgoiwhgt
ghgoiwsehgoiehgioehroighdfgthseoighseoihgoiseghiosaeghioesghieg
gsoieshgsowiehioehgtoierwghiowerhgiowehgioewhgoiewhgoieswhgtesiwg


It's one of the easiest cards out there. Say hi to Genetics for us!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 24, 2012, 02:01:10 AM
AW FUCK! FUCK FUCK FUCK! FUCK! WHY THE FUCK SATORI! WHY THE FUCK DO YOU FUCKING MIMIC SUIKA! I THOUGHT I COULD GET IT EASILY DONE BUT NO, YOU HAD TO FUCKING MIMIC THAT FUCKING LOLI'S STRENGHT AND MINDFUCKING BULLETS! GAH!

My experience through using Suika. I recommend you do not use her
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 24, 2012, 02:09:52 AM
What's the first card again?
Smybol "Ancestors Standing Beside Your Bed"
It's one of the easiest cards out there. Say hi to Genetics for us!
Only Danmaku Paranoia and 9 Syllable Stabs are easier in the stage.
Genetics isn't THAT bad...I've timed it out twice with 2 bombs used.
My experience through using Suika. I recommend you do not use her
ReimuB extra clear is next on my list : P
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 24, 2012, 02:54:40 AM
FUCK KOISHI WHY IS YOUR FIRST FUCKING CARD SO GOD DAMN HARD
lol wut
sit on 'y', sit on 'e', sit on 'y', add some streaming in the way, win.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 24, 2012, 08:48:51 PM
lol wut
sit on 'y', sit on 'e', sit on 'y', add some streaming in the way, win.

In English, please?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on January 24, 2012, 08:53:55 PM
Lasers come at two waves. They are static. You avoid the first wave by sitting in the bottom-middle of the screen. You avoid the second wave by standing right in front of her. Then you back off quickly, head to the right/left and stream for a second or two, charge to the right/left (same direction) to open a gap, stream back to the bottom-middle of the screen, avoid the first wave.

IIRC, the spell starts with the second wave of lasers...? I might be wrong.

By the way, if you don't want to risk going right in front of her, Kanon's suggestion works.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 24, 2012, 08:56:25 PM
Yeah it starts with the one where you move up close. Don't let this spell annoy you; the memorization has only just begun.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 24, 2012, 09:46:52 PM
Don't let this spell annoy you; the memorization has only just begun.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AND I THOUGHT HISTORY CLASS WAS BAD
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 24, 2012, 09:54:10 PM
Don't worry, if you are competent enough to clear Normal then you are competent enough to clear this one in your sleep.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on January 24, 2012, 10:16:39 PM
...Nah. Koishi is easy after a certain level of skill, but when you're below that level of skill, she's brutal. In fact, I'd go so far as name her as the hardest Extra boss from a Normal player's perspective.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 24, 2012, 10:42:42 PM
...Nah. Koishi is easy after a certain level of skill, but when you're below that level of skill, she's brutal. In fact, I'd go so far as name her as the hardest Extra boss from a Normal player's perspective.
I second this. I know Extra bosses tend to favor learning their tricks over pure dodging, but I think Koishi follows that idea even more closely than others, and she's certainly tougher because of it. It did take me a while to beat her for the first time, and this is from someone who started out with SA. Though I disagree that she's the toughest for a Normal player - GFW Marisa probably beats her there.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on January 24, 2012, 10:58:42 PM
Yeah, never did play GFW, so EX-Marisa was never in the equation to begin with.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 24, 2012, 11:20:17 PM
...Nah. Koishi is easy after a certain level of skill, but when you're below that level of skill, she's brutal. In fact, I'd go so far as name her as the hardest Extra boss from a Normal player's perspective.

Oh I'm not sure this was entirely clear, i just meant the spell.  ;)
No, Koishi actually proved to be the most troublesome Ex boss of them all back when I was clearing house with the extra bosses for the first time. Flandre and Suwako goes then. Koishi can certainly kick a normal mode player around because her tricks are a lot different from the usual stuff. I remember myself being confused about how to dodge the heart spells for example. Even the non-spells could intimidate me because of the way they look.

As Funen said, yeah GFW Marisa would probably be a lot harder but she was certainly not part of my equation back then.  :V

Also, question for all Normal players around here. Is Mamizou hard to defeat compared to other EX bosses in your opinion? I'm kinda curious since she comes off as one of the harder ones from the few runs I've done against her.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 24, 2012, 11:26:38 PM
Also, question for all Normal players around here. Is Mamizou hard to defeat compared to other EX bosses in your opinion? I'm kinda curious since she comes off as one of the harder ones from the few runs I've done against her.
My EX-boss difficulty order, including stage parts: (hardest to easiest)
Marisa
Nue (because I fail at the stage part)
Koishi/Mamizou (tie)
Flandre
Yukari
Mokou
Ran/Suwako (tie, but I'm biased because attempting perfect and perfect run)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 25, 2012, 02:07:00 AM
Also, question for all Normal players around here. Is Mamizou hard to defeat compared to other EX bosses in your opinion? I'm kinda curious since she comes off as one of the harder ones from the few runs I've done against her.

From what I HAVE played so far, my opinions of the bosses are, from top to bottom swimmingly easy to DAFUQ'S GOING ONNNNN :qq:

Ran Yakumo (7 Ex)
Yukari Yakumo (7 Ph)
Futatsuiwa Mamizou (13)
Suwako Moriya (10)
Houjuu Nue (12)
Fujiwara no Mokou (8 )
Flandre Scarlet (6)
Koishi Komeiji (11)

I put the numbers down so that you could glance at them quickly and tell what order it is
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on January 25, 2012, 02:39:32 AM
Also, question for all Normal players around here. Is Mamizou hard to defeat compared to other EX bosses in your opinion? I'm kinda curious since she comes off as one of the harder ones from the few runs I've done against her.
I'm only recently graduating from being a Normal player; I'd consider Hard to be about at my level in most games, so this might be cheating a bit, but yeah Mamizou is definitely the hardest EX-boss in my opinion. (Though I'm not counting Nue or Marisa in this, since I don't play UFO or GFW.) Against other EX-bosses (except for Flandre), it's a bad run if I die twice. Against Mamizou, it's a good run if I make it to the last card and fail to clear.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 25, 2012, 03:04:51 AM
It didn't take me that long to defeat Mamizou. 1 or 2 days I think.
However, I think it's probably one of the hard ones. Even at this level, I find quite a few of Mamizou's card hard.
Currently, I rank Nue and Mamizou as hardest because they have spellcards that are hard to dodge and can't be neutered by a bomb.
(Rainbow UFO, survival for Nue, Wild Carpet, last phase of Pom Pokolin for Mamizou)
It's also worth mentioning that they both have annoying stages, with very very annoying midbosses.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 25, 2012, 03:23:03 AM
I... wha?

I've seen videos of Mamizou (myself failing to Miko's final on my first and only try) and have got to say she looks waaaaay easy.
What's all this coming from now?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on January 25, 2012, 03:52:47 AM
Also, question for all Normal players around here. Is Mamizou hard to defeat compared to other EX bosses in your opinion? I'm kinda curious since she comes off as one of the harder ones from the few runs I've done against her.
I can't compare difficulty of ex stage bosses because all of them are easy. (to clear)  . . . -.-
but the hardest Exstage part in my opinion maybe UFO  . (if no UFO summoning )

PS. It took me 2-3 days to get first clear of ex TD because in August I have been playing touhou only 1-2 months. . .
PS. #2  : Sorry about my terrible English again.  ;P

Edit : Maybe Mamizou is hardest boss ~! because I hate some of her cards ~!  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 25, 2012, 04:31:24 AM
I... wha?

I've seen videos of Mamizou (myself failing to Miko's final on my first and only try) and have got to say she looks waaaaay easy.
What's all this coming from now?
I don't think you can really judge just by watching it. Her attacks are funky, lots of horizontal bullets and other stuff. I'd say she's one of the tougher ones, despite the general easiness if TD. Personally I think Alice is the hardest. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 25, 2012, 05:33:41 AM
From easiest to hardest...
Mokou, Yukari, Ran (these are all relatively equal)
Suwako
Mamizou
Flandre, Koishi
Nue
Marisa
(this is at 90fps by the way)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 25, 2012, 07:26:58 AM
note to self: don't play Touhou while people are talking to you.
I was playing SA extra with ReimuB, and had the following occur:
4 power first part of stage, 2nd time ever
perfect ExSanae, second ever
death to stage
1 bomb Koishi to Superego, die by ramming into a bullet, bomb twice
capture to Rorschach, get hit very early on the spell
1 bomb Embers of Love, get to Genetics with 2 lives and 2 power
1 bomb timeout-->double KO
1 bomb Philosophy of a Hated Person
die with full power to the third phase of Subterranean Rose
have 0 power for the final phase
dodge it and get distracted by 'where's the balloonist?' for the hundredth time
game over with ~5 second left to go

So my friend had me die twice, costing me the clear with ReimuB.
WHY does the world hate me???
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: GuppyForce on January 25, 2012, 07:49:49 AM
I died to Youkai Polygraph.

Twice.

Also, to the above question, definitely, though her difficulty is more from the fact that you get extremely few lives to face her with, and the fact that I suck at deathbombing in TD (But am pretty good in say, PCB)

From easiest to hardest:
Suwako (Takes time to learn, but is easy after that, bar red frog)
Nue (Learn her stage and she's easy, well for Sanae B at least)
Ran
Yukari
Mokou (She would be really hard without last spells)
Flandre
Koishi (Haven't defeated but really close)
Mamizou (Low lives make her pretty challenging, and her middle nonspells can cause unexpected deaths sometimes. Also, hard cards)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Piranha on January 25, 2012, 09:24:35 AM
I died at Eirins last spell at 01 seconds left
Yelled "NOOOOOOOO" even though it was 3 am in the morning :derp:
---

I only tried Mokou, Flandre and Ran, but I would say Ran is the easiest because I reached Charming Siege from All Sides on my third attempt on the extra that actually reached her(haven't been able to do it again, however)
Can't survive Cranberry Trap because I haven't memorized a path yet and I constantly die at Fire Bird -Flying Phoenix- .
I'm currently unlocking the other extras...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 25, 2012, 09:44:59 PM
One death away from perfecting TD normal. That Tao Taidou... That confusing curvy lazorz  :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 25, 2012, 10:25:02 PM
Fuck off Sanae.

Well, okay. Got to VoWG on a No-bombs attempt. I hate how I just lose lives to easy stuff whenever I try to do a challenge of something.
List of horrible deaths: - Nitori's final card, Sanae's 1st card, Sanae's 2nd card, Kanako's 2nd card, Kanako's 3rd card.
List of bad deaths: Aya's second card and once on Stage 5.
List of acceptable deaths: PWG and VoWG.

See the thing is, every run is seemingly plagued by some really stupid deaths which had kept me from achieving this run. Things that I normally can capture with ease still somehow get's me because I mess up. I swear that my hands has a mind of their own sometimes.  :(

However, I did get an ?ber sexy dodge of the post-momiji stuff that I normally skip by pacifying a bit of momiji. I'll consider that my great accomplishment of the day. That and finally seeing some improvement on DOOM but that's a completely unrelated matter. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 25, 2012, 10:41:59 PM
Fuck off Sanae.
Different game, same mentality.
Syllable Stabs? 1/3. I always capture this
Miracle Fruit? 0/1. I almost always capture this
Rice Shower? 0/1.  I BOMBED
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 25, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT FLYING FUCKING FANTASTICA (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18357)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6734/flyingfuckingfantastica.jpg)

LOOK AT THE HEALTH BAR

I'd try again if my hands aren't shaking
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 26, 2012, 01:36:16 AM
Dear GFW, can you fucking stop killing me right after I release the freeze button? Even after all this time, my fingers keep telling me that the ice isn't coming out in just one frame... I really want someone to prove me wrong here.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 27, 2012, 08:51:21 AM
Death to ExSanae's first spell.
Fail stage.
Death to ExSanae's 2nd spell.
Why do I suddenly suck so much at this part?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: fsvgm777 on January 27, 2012, 02:07:03 PM
PoFV Normal with Marisa:

Stages 1-6 went as expected (no deaths). I died once against Aya, which got nullified thanks to the 30m extend... before losing all my lives (I had 3 lives remaining) against Komachi... before she goes down on my last life in 52 (!) seconds. Unfortunately, the extend I got after the fight (my score went over 50 million points) wasn't enough to defeat Shikieiki without having to use a continue.

This probably could have been a 1cc, had I not messed up this badly against Komachi.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on January 27, 2012, 07:03:09 PM
One of them derpy days where i do shit fuck sake i keep running into fairies just trying to do stage 1, fuck you MoF
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on January 28, 2012, 03:19:22 AM
I made it to the last phase of Hourai Doll with the Netherworld team. Mokou started exploding and I let go of the keys in relief because in Imperishable Night the bullets don't hurt you when the boss does this.
Then I died. With two bombs in stock.
HOW IS THAT EVEN FUCKING POSSIBLE GDI ZUN.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 28, 2012, 03:35:29 AM
Oh, I never managed to get that far on Mokou :/

Indirect rage-

my 8 year old little sister failing to TD!Yuyuko

Hilarity on my part, vocal explosion on hers.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 28, 2012, 04:47:59 AM
HEY
HEY NUE
FUCK YOU
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on January 28, 2012, 06:16:00 AM
Played Marine Benefit for the first time today and what the fuck shrimp-loli's gimmick what the fuck
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 28, 2012, 06:25:53 AM
HEY JONATHAN YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY

WHAT

PEOPLE RUNNING INTO BULLETS THAT WERE TWO FULL HITBOXES AWAY FROM THEM

AHAHAHAHAHA YES IT IS, MY FRIEND, YES IT I-*PICHUUN*

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 28, 2012, 07:54:36 AM
MoF Ultra hard.
Nitori: 5 hits, 2 of which were incredibly cheap double KOs
Stage 4: AMAZING dodges through waterfalls, 3 deaths total (I need only 2)
Stage 5: derp-de-derp, 2 deaths (I need 1)
Stage 6: About as good as I could, got 2/3 of the way through VoWG with only 1 life going into it.  I can potentially 2-death it.  However, I need 5 lives for the stage and I had 3.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 28, 2012, 08:32:19 PM
Played Marine Benefit for the first time today and what the fuck shrimp-loli's gimmick what the fuck
Shrimp-loli is not as bad as mermaid loli :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 28, 2012, 08:41:30 PM
FUCK YOU RAN! FUCK YOUR CHARMING SIEGE. FUCK PRINCESS TENKO! FUCK YOUR SHIKIGAMI! FUCK! FUCK! FUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 28, 2012, 09:58:43 PM
Shrimp-loli is not as bad as mermaid loli :V
^ so true.
I've had multiple runs ruined by her :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 28, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
^ so true.
I've had multiple runs ruined by her :V

Where do you even get MB?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 28, 2012, 10:29:39 PM
http://nekofla.web.fc2.com/game/th_kaikeidou/top.html

It's free.

Just download all 4 files and put them in the same folder and run th_kaikeidou.exe
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 28, 2012, 10:46:08 PM
Oh, why thank you
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 28, 2012, 11:17:46 PM
It's more like sadness than rage, but daaamn. Why can't i bear the tension when i'm close to victory and make stupid derps in easy places that ruin the whole run? :fail:
9735765th attempt on Ten Desires hard no bombs. Faced Armillary Sphere of Ikaruga-dera with 2 lives in stock. Died because of being nervous and placed Marisa in wrong spot. Than died to Guze flash wich is shame of no excuse. Than Honour the Avoidance of Defiance ended my misery. Maan i was so close! :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on January 28, 2012, 11:34:59 PM
Ended up ragequitting EoSD Hard at Stage 1
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 28, 2012, 11:39:24 PM
Ended up ragequitting EoSD Hard at Stage 1

I quit at Cirno
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on January 29, 2012, 12:24:40 AM
Why is supergrazing so hard? Yuugi's laser nonspell likes to spawn extra lasers that can hit you even when you are (or were) in the safespot.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 29, 2012, 12:39:12 AM
Why is supergrazing so hard? Yuugi's laser nonspell likes to spawn extra lasers that can hit you even when you are (or were) in the safespot.
You're not shooting while you do this, are you? Because from what I can tell killing the orbs does that to you. Not to mention that you should be keeping them alive to get the highest amount of lasers passing by the safespot anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on January 29, 2012, 12:43:01 AM
You're not shooting while you do this, are you? Because from what I can tell killing the orbs does that to you. Not to mention that you should be keeping them alive to get the highest amount of lasers passing by the safespot anyway.

No, it happens anyway, but not always. It might depend on how close Yuugi is to the side of the screen or something.

edit

Here are my plans (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18430) for stage 3, I have yet to decide what to do with the last non-spell, timing is off on Knockout. No ninja lasers in this replay.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 29, 2012, 02:14:17 AM
I think I remember one particular laser that you might be referring to, one that goes down the middle behind all the other lasers. I don't know what causes that, but I've never had an issue with it.

Your replay got me curious, so I checked out Stage 3 of UKT's record and learned something new. ReimuC's bomb may not be good overall for scoring since it cancels bullets right away, but for times when the bullets can't be cancelled, coupled with her special ability she can certainly cover more ground while supergrazing than ReimuA.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 29, 2012, 06:48:50 AM
So maybe clearing all extras with all shot types is stupid because I reached the Marisa types in SA.  Specifically MarisaA.
I guess I could do it, BUT NOT WITH PEOPLE DISTRACTING ME MAKING ME DIE AS I'M ABOUT TO CAPTURE ID AND THE FIRST SPELL AND ALSO THE 4TH NONSPELL AND ALSO THE POST SANAE PART OF THE STAGE I HATE YOU ALL
not really
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Alpha Werewolf on January 29, 2012, 09:09:31 AM
What is wrong with Yuyuko's Swallowtail Butterfly

How do you even DODGE that thing

And why doesn't it disappear when I break a border >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on January 29, 2012, 10:06:35 AM
I think I remember one particular laser that you might be referring to, one that goes down the middle behind all the other lasers. I don't know what causes that, but I've never had an issue with it.

Your replay got me curious, so I checked out Stage 3 of UKT's record and learned something new. ReimuC's bomb may not be good overall for scoring since it cancels bullets right away, but for times when the bullets can't be cancelled, coupled with her special ability she can certainly cover more ground while supergrazing than ReimuA.

It's actually not the laser itself that kills me, but the cautionary pause I make if it seems threatening, followed by being to slow to reach the safe spot again.

Even more on topic: got a run that was heading for over 1.1 billion, but I get so nervous when I know I got something going. Beat my previous high score anyway which is kinda neat :/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: LeviLamprey on January 29, 2012, 09:43:25 PM
I was placing PCB, trying for the 1cc AGAIN! (I mean seriously, I can 1cc EoSD on Normal, but not PCB on Easy lD)
I literally farmed Stages 1-3, because they're so easy, placing borders and such.
I go into Stage 4, more cautious, but I normally don't lose more than a life, if any, or maybe two if I'm really bad. I died four times to the stage :X
ALright, I think, I can still beat Lunasa really easily, she's no Merlin!
I LOST EVERY LIFE BY THE TIME I HAD BEATEN THEM
They aren't /that/ bad...
I then managed to get to Youmu before dying spectacularly to KARMIC PUNISHMENT
fuuuu
In other news, I died to Suwako's 2nd spell. Now, I can't beat her, but that spell is so EASY D:
And to ExKanako's first lD
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on January 29, 2012, 10:09:17 PM
I WAS SO CLOSE TO BEATING SHIKIEIKI

FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on January 30, 2012, 05:10:56 AM
Made it to 50 seconds in SFN. HOW do you dodge this shit, srsly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 30, 2012, 06:01:18 AM
It get easier after a certain point because there are too many bullets and some of them don't appear properly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 30, 2012, 07:20:37 PM
SA No-bombs game over at Stage 5.

This run was a bloody catastophe. It started off with a death at Yamame's first non-spell but I'll be damned if I'm gonna restart just because Yamame pulls a Shinki. Then in Stage 4 I die twice on the easy first half of the stage and against Satori I lose lives to all her spells. Including BoWaP. Then in Stage 5 i lost a life to Cat Walk and another one to the keyboard test right after it.

I knew that fucking Stage 5 was gonna be a pain but damn.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 30, 2012, 07:33:30 PM
*raises hand

What does it mean to "pull a Shinki?"
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 30, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
You know of that little glitch in MS where your character just explodes right at the start of Shinki? I find it similar to when Yamames opener shoves a wall in your face. At least as far as no-bombing runs are concerned.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 30, 2012, 07:46:01 PM
Oh, I have no idea how to configure the PC-98s, and I've never seen it, so I guess I wouldn't have known. What I would have known is that Yamame's opening is a crock of bull, but that's just me sucking at Touhou.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 30, 2012, 08:02:38 PM
And now I die twice to midboss Yuugi. I'll do you later SA. Its annoying and boring when the game you are trying to play doesn't become a hint of interesting before Stage 4. Especially when I keep dying at the easy parts that I shouldn't die to. I'll go for IN instead. Maybe.

I don't even know if I want to do SA. The only stages i enjoy playing is Stage 4. Oh and Orin+Utsuho is cool too but their stages are lame.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: AJS on January 30, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
I gave PCB Lunatic a shot again.  Had to use a continue halfway through the final battle (Some day, Yuyuko...some day...), but the highlight of my run was that I nearly captured Resurrection Butterfly....except I had one stupid death halfway through.  Other than that, I did fine.  If it wasn't for that one stupid death, I would've captured it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 30, 2012, 09:39:49 PM
So I'm a Normal Modo player who has beaten Yukari, Suwako, Ran, and have 1CC'd every single Touhou game from 6 - 12 (except Phantasmagoria).

How much of an achievement is 1-crediting to the Prismrivers in Lunatic mode? :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 30, 2012, 11:13:37 PM
It means you can probably 1cc Hard if you take it seriously.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 30, 2012, 11:37:34 PM
Oh, yeah, I didn't talk about my last Hard 1CC attempt.
It ended...

*memories returning*

...at Resurrection Butterfly?

AAAAAAAARRRRGGHHHHH
DID I SERIOUSLY BLOCK OUT MY MEMORY OF THAT


As for the rest of the Lunatic modes, they're fairly consistent.

Satori, Aya, Patchy...

Wow, I didn't realize that I was as capable as I was...
I've been treating Lunatic like some sort of plague that never is to be touched if you want to win...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 30, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Wow, I didn't realize that I was as capable as I was...
I've been treating Lunatic like some sort of plague that never is to be touched if you want to win...
Recently i've tried lunatic (TD) seriously just to improve my skills on hard. And it helped. Now i aim to 1CC it, but the best i did is Futo's first spell :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on January 30, 2012, 11:52:13 PM
Another good try at SA Lunatic that would have ended at 1.1 billion, but for some reason the focus key didn't register for about 10 seconds during subterranean sun which lead me to bleed out on resources. Strange, first time that happened.

Also... that hypnotizing laser happened during Yuugi's non card, would have easily been a 1.2 billion potential run otherwise.

And yet another run lost at stage 6, died twice pre Orin  :V
At least I'm getting better at grazing stage 1, had 350 more graze in this run going into Yamame.

Looks like I perfected Parsee in that last attempt  :colonveeplusalpha: Why am I so bad at supergrazing?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on January 31, 2012, 01:31:12 AM
Why do I keep trying MoF ultra hard mode?
Oh right: because I CAN beat it.
I just 2 bombed all the way to endboss Nitori before ending the stage with 5 power, 3 deaths to Stage 4, 2 to 5, and Stage 6 was a disaster.
Nitori...WHY MUST YOU BS ME TO DEATH
Aya...WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY DOUBLE KO ME TWICE
Sanae...WHY MUST YOU HAVE IMPOSSIBLE PATTERS
Kanako...**** VoWG

Oh, and Shikieiki can go die in a fire for not dying after 2:50 of dodging, costing me a no focus hard 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 31, 2012, 09:18:09 AM
asdfasogisdfasf
Why does everything about Reimu in 10D suck so much compared to Marisa?
> can't beat 10D Extra with Reimu at 60FPS
> had easier time with Marisa at 90FPS
what the hell?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 31, 2012, 01:31:34 PM
asdfasogisdfasf
Why does everything about Reimu in 10D suck so much compared to Marisa?
> can't beat 10D Extra with Reimu at 60FPS
> had easier time with Marisa at 90FPS
what the hell?
Reimu's only good because of her tiny hitbox and not slowing down while bombing. Homing amulets is a doubtable advantage. Otherwise Marisa is better.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on January 31, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
You crazy peoples don't obviously know you are talking about.

Reimu is good. Anyone else is shit. Period.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 31, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
what if we have a certain fondness for sanae's shot

yeah okay never mind
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on January 31, 2012, 06:23:09 PM
Why can't I seem to get the timing right for using deathbombs, no matter how hard I try. They only seem to work occasionally.  :wat:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on January 31, 2012, 07:33:56 PM
Why can't I seem to get the timing right for using deathbombs, no matter how hard I try. They only seem to work occasionally.  :wat:
You shouldn't be relying on deathbombs for all your bombing. Deathbombing outside of IN (and PCB Reimu I believe) is only on the order of a few tenths of a second at most, and that's way too short to rely on reflexes to get the job done. If something looks greatly threatening, use a bomb before the stuff even gets close (or as soon as possible if already surrounded by stuff), that way you don't risk getting hit by something you originally didn't see (or risk misreading precisely how fast something is traveling) before you can use a bomb at all.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on January 31, 2012, 07:42:06 PM
Aside from not really wanting to deathbomb unless I absolutely must, I guess I should be more aggressive with my bombs? It's mostly an issue with the times that I do need to get the bombs to fire off to save myself that they don't seem to want to work. Maybe I should be hitting my bomb button before the actual bullet collision, or something like that? ???
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on January 31, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
Well definately hit the button before you get hit! Physically reacting in time to bomb after you got hit is almost impossible outside PCB and IN. Most of the time I end up deathbombing it's because I started the action before the bullet reached me. There's really no need to save the bomb for the last second. The way I see it, if you end up deathbombing it's because you reacted too slowly. If you feel like you'll get hit, just bomb that shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Jaimers on January 31, 2012, 09:16:12 PM
Along with what has been said, try to make a "bomb route".
Look at what you have the most trouble with and plan your bombs. Something that you know that you have a very high percentage of failing with you should be extremely careful with and you shouldn't hesitate to bomb it.

EDIT: lol grammar
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on January 31, 2012, 09:42:19 PM
Oh, my, I'm absolutely loving those new bullets Miko uses.
I captured Halo of the Guze Kannon on my first try.
Spellcard practice? 0/17.

orz
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on January 31, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
Was ridiculously close to an EoSD Hard 1cc. It's a real shame that my run failed mostly due to horrible derps, since I had some great moments too, like an almost-capture of Scarlet Miester.  :o
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on January 31, 2012, 10:12:20 PM
Thanks for the advice, guy. I've pretty much got what I wanted to do done. :3

I do like pushing myself to attempting more spell captures, but bombing for safety is pretty important too. :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on January 31, 2012, 11:59:04 PM
Why can't I seem to get the timing right for using deathbombs, no matter how hard I try. They only seem to work occasionally.  :wat:
What Jaimers said. When you're in the place with a high chance of fail - keep your finger on bomb button and hit it on the slightest smell of danger.
Also, bomb moar! Or you'll be like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=osf1fa4UhP4#t=274s


Meanwhile
Damn! Why trying to perfect something easy like TD normal is so hard? Why i always tend to fuckup somewhere?  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 01, 2012, 01:51:50 AM
SATORIC (ReiMaru Stage 4 card set), WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT ANNOYING WHIRLWIND CARD

I'VE ONLY FACED IT ONCE BUT I FUCKING HATE THOSE GOD DAMN SPIRALS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on February 01, 2012, 04:25:14 AM
I just 1dnbnbb prismriver sisters on lunatic . . .
1deaths at easy stuff . . . like their last spell . . . WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 01, 2012, 07:55:10 AM
MoF ultra hard.
BS, second only to ultra extra(s) and ultra lunatic.
I finally took out all my frustrations on it by BEATING IT TO A BLOODY PULP WITH MARISAB
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 01, 2012, 09:29:49 AM
Got to Hard S4 in SA with full lives.

Got to Satori with full lives.

Lost three lives to her non-spells.





How does that even happen???

And it happens to be worse because I pull a nice run including a RAGE DBDB capture and some other things.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 01, 2012, 02:25:17 PM
I'll resort to using finnish, which is my original lanquance.


(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5429/eimeinaavituta.png) (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18498)
Vittu saatana.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Darkoda on February 01, 2012, 10:57:59 PM
Yuyuko. PCB. Still with all my lives, actually got past her first few cards without dying (a major accomplishment) Sure the last couple spellcards chip off some lives, but 3 should be enough to survive the tree right?

Just as I get my hopes up for finally 1cc'ing a touhou game, 30% Reflowering happens. I lose my last life at 5 seconds.

Why do you hate me so much Yuyuko?

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 01, 2012, 11:57:02 PM
I managed to summon 4 red UFOs during the extra stage, giving me 6 lives!
I then failed horribly because of the first 2 UFO spells and a BS clip to Nue's 5th, 7th, and also her final nonspell.
I didn't even get to the last 3 spells...
Oh, and I failed Nue's 3rd spell for the first time ever.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: LeviLamprey on February 02, 2012, 04:40:24 AM
FUCK
PCB HATES ME
When it isn't haxing me up as usual...
I was cruising through PCB and managed to no death all the bosses up to youmu's stage, and I had both lives back by the time I got to Stage 6. Died to Youmu's spell (WTF?) and then get to Yuyu.
I died three times, two deaths which I expected (Hirowaka, I went the wrong way and Sumizome I didn't notice a lone bullet). And then, I get to her last spell.
NO POSSIBLE WAY TO NOT 1CC
NONE AT ALL
I HAVE ENOUGH LIVES TO BOMB ENDLESSLY UNTIL IT STOPS
I go to my chat (I was on windowed, would you believe) and type in 'OH MY GOD YUYUKO'S LAST SPELL I'M GOING TO DO THIS WITH LIVES TO SPARE'
And then
The game glitches
Makes a trrrrrrr sound as it autoscrolls and sends me back to the title screen
I
HATE
PCB
SO
MUCH
MORE
THAN
I
USED
TO
GRAAAAAAAAAAHFUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on February 02, 2012, 07:35:06 AM
I got to Stage 6. Died to Youmu's spell
And that really happen to me now . . !@#!_@$(@#$!@)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: touhoumaniac on February 02, 2012, 10:09:10 AM
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/217/sdghf.jpg)
:flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on February 02, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
.. someday... Kinkaku-Ji Ultra, I'll get 'cha.

KINKAKU-JI WHY (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/kinkakujiwhy.png/)

Urgh, tried to rush it too much, defensive shot might've been better but then again... it'd completely overwhelm me in a matter of seconds anyway. just a few pixels to either right or left and it'd be over. *sigh*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on February 02, 2012, 10:06:54 PM
Fuck you Marisa, and fuck your STUPID FUCKING STARS. Why can't I just actually BEAT HARD MODE with Reimu Solo without you fucking me up all the time? In the run I did just now I didn't capture ANY OF YOUR FUCKING SPELLS, YOUR NONSPELLS, ANYTHING. I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO YOUR LAST FUCKING SPELL BECAUSE YOU KEEP MAKING ME DEATHBOMB AND DIE AND LOSE ALL MY TIME POINTS.
Mystia. STOP. JUST STOP WALLING ME WITH YOUR SECOND FUCKING NONSPELL AND YOUR FINAL CARD. IF I CAN ACTUALLY GET TO STAGE 3 WITH BOMBS I MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET TO KEINE WITHOUT LOSING LIVES.
And speaking of Keine, WHY ARE YOUR LAST CARDS SO HARD AND WHY CAN'T I DO THEM WHY DO I FREAK OUT AND BOMB EVERYFUCKINGTHING IN THIS GAME WHEN I'M NOT EVEN IN DANGER OF DYING.
FUCK YOU TEWI. WHY CAN'T YOU JUST GIVE ME THE LIFE YOU DROP WITHOUT KILLING ME DURING YOUR ACTUAL ATTACKS? Oh, maybe it's because I CAN'T EVEN GET TO YOU WITH TWO BOMBS BECAUSE STAGE 5 JUST DRAINS ME OF EVERYTHING.
And Reisen, your second card is bullshit. WHY DON'T MY BOMBS CLEAR BULLETS AND EVEN WHEN I DIE NOTHING LEAVES THE SCREEN AND YOU MAKE ME LOSE LIKE TWO LIVES ON THAT FUCKING CARD. AND WHAT IS WITH YOUR SECOND NONSPELL? WHAT'S IT BASED ON? IT JUST KEEPS FUCKING WALLING ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
Someone said they were surprised I thought I couldn't 1cc Hard with solo Reimu. This is the fucking reason. Happy?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ark on February 02, 2012, 10:10:21 PM
If you're just trying to unlock that Last Word, you can start with 7 lives, in case you aren't already.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on February 02, 2012, 10:11:39 PM
If you're just trying to unlock that Last Word, you can start with 7 lives, in case you aren't already.

That's the problem. I am. It's still going horribly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 02, 2012, 11:04:22 PM
Oh, maybe it's because I CAN'T EVEN GET TO YOU WITH TWO BOMBS BECAUSE STAGE 5 JUST DRAINS ME OF EVERYTHING.

Stage 5 really shouldn't drain you of anything. You were capable of much harder things so I can only assume that you are approaching a lot of things in needlessly risky manners. Why don't you give us a replay so we can help you? Having followed your progress I know that you are capable of doing this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 02, 2012, 11:46:25 PM
*sitting in his chair rocking back and forth in fetal position crying, his screen showing a Stage 3 game over with Sanae B on Hard (UFO); the High Score list is littered with Stage 3 Game overs*

IT'S NOT FAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERY STUPID THING HAPPEN TO ME I HAVE TWO FUCKING YEARS OF PRACTICE AT THIS GAME AND I STILL SUCK BOLLOCKS ON HARD I HATE YOU NAZRIN I HATE YOU KOGASA I HATE YOU ICHIRIN I HATE YOU UNZAN

UNZAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN I HATE YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWAHWEIOPGHGHIOLGNHWEROINGIOGJEDIKLHJGQWPIOGNEQIOLHQPIOLGHWIOHGIOGHIOGNHEILHNFEIOHGTRIHGTIOQEHGT

:qq:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 03, 2012, 02:12:36 AM
ICHIRIN GOD FUCKING DAMMIT STOP KILLING ME I CAN SEE YOUR GOD DAMN LASERS COMING I CAN DODGE YOUR FUCKING FISTS PERFECTLY EFFICIENTLY I HAVE SEEN YOUR STAGE MORE OFTEN THAN I'VE SEEN STAGE 1 IN THIS GOD DAMN HARD MODE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FACT THAT I'M USING THE FUCKING OVERPOWERED CHARACTER I WOULD BE FUCKING STILL AT KOGASA BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'D RATHER BE DODGING THAT FUCKING CUNT'S BULLETS BECAUSE AT LEAST THEY DON'T PULL CHEAP TRICKS LIKE CLIPPING WHEN I'M NOT EVEN TOUCHING THE FUCKING IMAGE OF THE OBLIGATORY BOSS BULLET/OPTION GRAPHIC. AND DON'T GET ME FUCKING STARTED ON THE GOD DAMN STAGE IT IS THE FUCKING WORST STAGE I'VE SEEN SO FAR WITH CHEAP FUCKING TRICKS. THOSE  FUCKING PORTIONS THAT YOU PRACTICALLY NEED A UFO TO CLEAR OUT ARE FUCKING HORRIBLE AND WHEN YOU ADD UP THE FACT THAT I HAVE A ZERO BOMB MENTALITY THAT ISN'T FUCKING GOOD. I CAN NOT DROP THE PERFECTIONIST MENTALITY BECAUSE I'M SO BENT ON BECOMING LIKE NAUT OR ZENGEKU THAT I'M LITERALLY SCREAMING AT, PUNCHING, SITTING ON, AND BITING MY RIGHT HAND JUST TO GET IT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT NEEDS TO STOP FUCKING UP AND HAVING A GOD DAMN TWITCHFEST LIKE IT'S GOT THE ENTIRE TOUHOU 7 CAST SUBMITTING THEMSELVES TO IT AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FUCKING RESPOND TO SIMPLE BULLET PATTERNS AND GOD FUCKING DAMMIT NAZRIN IF I HAVE TO GET ON YOU ABOUT YOUR LAST DAMN SPELLCARD ONE MORE TIME I'M GOING TO PLACE RAT TRAPS EVERYWHERE IN YOUR HOUSE AND KILL THAT FUCKING PET THAT'S SITTING IN THE BASKET HELD UP BY YOUR FUCKING TAIL.

AND KOGASA YOUR GOD DAMN RAIN SPELLCARD. DO RAINDROPS GO IN HEXAGRAM FORMATIONS? NO. FUCK NO. THEY GO DOWN. DOWN IN SINGLE LINE FORMATIONS. YOU FUCKING ASS. I CAN DODGE YOUR LAST CARD PERFECTLY FINE, IT'S JUST NORMAL MODE BUT WITH AMULET WALLS ADDED IN. REPOSITIONING. SO HARD.

And I'm sorry about the walls of text again but I really hate UFO Hard or higher. I only do it because it's the only hard mode that's really FUN to me (Yeah, that's real ironic, isn't it?).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 03, 2012, 02:16:12 AM
That's the problem. I am. It's still going horribly.
Pre-emptively bomb more, don't rely on deathbombing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 03, 2012, 02:17:49 AM
Pre-emptively bomb more, don't rely on deathbombing.

Funny story is, my UFO Easy run THRIVED on Deathbombing. It was like if you were to take the ability to swap a bomb for a life out of the equation, I would not even be able to 1cc it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 03, 2012, 02:57:05 AM
Funny story is, my UFO Easy run THRIVED on Deathbombing. It was like if you were to take the ability to swap a bomb for a life out of the equation, I would not even be able to 1cc it.

You should do Stage practice without summoning any greens and reds, to see if you can get through the stage without having to die for extra bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 03, 2012, 03:54:28 AM
Using bombs intelligently is part of being a good Touhou player. I think Jaimers said it earlier in this thread, you want to plan a bomb route. Know what's likely to kill you, and decide where you will spend your resources. For example, when I did that 90fps thing, every single bomb was planned. When you work out paths for the game (and believe me you'll want a path for stage 3), you should integrate bombs into it as well, because nobody can win with just rope and lamp oil reactively using bombs is not really how they're supposed to be used.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on February 03, 2012, 04:26:31 AM
Marisa's Extra stage survival.

I RAN INTO A FUCKING STAR. FROM THE BROKEN CIRCLE.

NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT STARS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 03, 2012, 08:38:35 AM
reactively using bombs is not really how they're supposed to be used.

To a certain extent, I'd say that they are. I usually play with the mentality of only bombing if the spells throws a wave at me that I can't seem to figure out how to dodge. I think that will benefit your skills more than relying on planned use of bombs. Then what if you could have captured that card without the bomb? You would've wasted it. The risk is of course to lose a life by getting hit by something unexpected but I think that'll still benefit your skills more than simply labelling a card an auto-bomb.

That being said, its certainly not a bad idea to keep mental notes about which parts might be smart to bomb if a certain tough situation arises.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 03, 2012, 09:07:21 AM
In general yeah, I'd only use them if I get walled or screw up or something, but I think if you're going to get very serious about a particular 1cc you'd want to plan all of them, and the UFOs as well in UFO. That's what I tend to end up doing anyway - the harder the game, the more planned bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 03, 2012, 08:08:20 PM
OH GOD DAMN IT

Enter Miko with 1/1

Lose the bomb at "Playtime's over!"
Lose the life at Armillary Sphere (which I thoroughly hate myself for)
Lose the other life at Guze Kannon

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That was a shitty-ass run anyway.
Death before Kyouko, death during Yoshika (no stranger to /spawning bullets on you/, eh?) Death before Seiga, death during Mononobe. Everything else was /just fine/

Oh, I guess I tranced too early during Stage 6 and ended up getting no extra resources, but still! >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 03, 2012, 08:53:55 PM
And I'm sorry about the walls of text again but I really hate UFO Hard or higher. I only do it because it's the only hard mode that's really FUN to me (Yeah, that's real ironic, isn't it?).

Please don't stop. These posts really makes my days better.  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 03, 2012, 09:01:45 PM
Oh god what the everlasting hell.

SA Hard. Standard "good i guess" 2D run, perfect Satori up to DBDB, use 1 bomb. Die on the laser spell, which is just "whatever" and I honestly was not going to bother mourning about that.

Then I run into a slow bullet in BoWaP.

And die right when invincibility wears off.

And die right when invincibility wears off.

And the spell ends.


I've already captured this with 0.00 power. This shit isn't even plausible.

My face still hurts. Why'd I have to facepalm so hard?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on February 04, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
Pre-emptively bomb more, don't rely on deathbombing.

I try not to rely on deathbombing as my reflexes suck. The thing is, I use my bombs too often because I panic in safe situations.

I'll get a replay up when I've gotten my motivation back.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: cactu on February 04, 2012, 01:59:00 AM
I cleared SA Lunatic no bombs but I accidentally used a bomb on stage three.
I was pretty mad.
Luckily I got the clear on the next attempt though.
What's worse though is that UFO is up next and I suck at it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 04, 2012, 02:08:09 AM
Being trying SA normal first day. Two of my 1CC attempts ended at Subterranean Sun  :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 04, 2012, 02:19:07 AM
FUCK NO KEYBOARD WHY NO NO NO FUCK FUCK NO FUCK NO FUCK

I HATE YOU KEYBOARD WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME I AM JUST TRYING TO UNLOCK NEEDLE REIMU FOR FIGHTING SUWAKO AND YOU ARE BEING UNPRODUCTIVE BY DECIDING TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT INPUTS THE RIGHT KEY ALWAYS BEING HELD SO THAT I DIE IN AYA'S STAGE AGAINST HER EASIEST DAMN CARD FIVE FUCKING TIMES

I AM NOT JOKING PEOPLE, MY KEYBOARD REALLY DID THIS. IT JUST SUDDENLY THOUGHT I WAS TELLING REIMU TO MOVE RIGHT BY NOT HOLDING ANY KEYS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 04, 2012, 02:33:41 AM
That happens to me in PoFV and GFW, though only to the left...
Damn infuriating though, yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 04, 2012, 04:13:20 AM
Attempted some sort of run where you enter a boss with no resources whatsoever on Ran.

Made it to FTYL.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 04, 2012, 11:56:05 AM
FFFFFFUUUUUUUU!!!!111 I failed TD lunatic 1CC by dying at the end of Newborn Divine Spirit. I've got hit, saw Miko exploding and than Marisa too. Maaan this is so frustrating >:(



Damn. Today isnt the best day for touhou. Failed one more attempt on SA normal dying on Subterranean Sun right after Utsuho explodes! HURR!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 05, 2012, 07:03:25 AM
Just watch the entire thing to get the full picture. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKV3SXfdz_g&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on February 06, 2012, 12:55:33 AM
Oh hey, since getting bored meant reinstalling UFO, I'm reminded of why I don't fucking play that game.

I don't care how bored I am of the games I play on a regular basis. UFO is not. fucking. worth. it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on February 06, 2012, 01:25:43 AM
FUCK YOU FLANDRE. FUCK YOU! I ALMOST 1CCED YOU TILL YOU GOT TO YOUR SECOND LAST SPELL! FUCK YOU PATCHY! FUCK YOU AND YOUR STONES! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 06, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
Forbidden Arcanum "Hourai Elixer" [Hard]

0 seconds on the clock.

Death.

WELP.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 06, 2012, 04:32:50 PM
First attempt at MoF normal no bombs. Made a lot of stupid derps all over the place and game overed at Kanako's 2nd nonspell :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 06, 2012, 09:14:37 PM
*rocking back and forth, circles under eyes, crying*

WHY COULDN'T YOU LET ME WIN WITH MARISA YUYUKO WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

NDLOGHDIOHGIONGIOERgionhgiohgioldngoiHGDHGISHGSDHGSPIHGIPSHGIPEHVPIOEHGPOIKEHGPIOEHGIPDHGP(OSHGPODHGPIOEHGOPEHGOPEHGOPEWSHGOPEHGOPDSWHGP(OEHGOIPEHGP(OEHWOG

I HATE YOU YUYUKO YOU FUCKING DICK WHY CAN'T YOU LET ME WIN FOR ONCE YOU ASSHOLE I FUCKING BOMBED I DID NOT SEE THAT BULLET HIT ME I FUCKING BOMBED A FULL FUCKING SECOND BEFORE IT HIT MEANJQWEIHQIOGQHEWPIOGHQWEPOGIHWQEPGHQWEPIGFHPGYPDWEHGQWPYHGP(WEYH PHIO HEWQQW HQP HWEIP: HWPI
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 06, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
I have no idea how I fucked up Devil's Recitation (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18611)

I can't believe I died to the bubble, of all things. Also don't know why I ran into that laser in Star Maelstrom.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on February 06, 2012, 09:46:18 PM
So I decide to try and clear Marine Benefit Extra with SanaeC. Hardest extra, worst shot in the game, let's go.

I make it to the final card. And I die as there's ONE OF THEM LEFT. WITH ALMOST NO HEALTH.

THIS IS WHY, MARINE BENEFIT, THIS IS WHY YOU FAILING TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY DEATHBOMBS FUCKING MATTERS.

WHY WOULD YOU FUCKING DO THIS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yukari-Chan on February 06, 2012, 10:44:09 PM
Tried the safespot at icicle Fall. But I wanna try it at lunatic. You figure the rest of the rage.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 06, 2012, 10:49:09 PM
Dear Miss Toyosatomimi no Miko

I humbly request the cessation of your use of "Falling Spirits on the Divine Spirit Mausoleum." It is not a particular favorite of mine to dodge and I find that it is the only thing holding me from Mamizou Futatsuiwa, whom I would quite enjoy fighting, I find. Your card is the last thing in the game, and seeing as I've captured every other card in your fight before, I do find no reason for your repeated desire to sweep me of my resources on a card that has turned out quite nonindicative of it's difficulty.

Yours, Taizen Chisou
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 06, 2012, 10:58:45 PM
Tried the safespot at icicle Fall. But I wanna try it at lunatic. You figure the rest of the rage.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 06, 2012, 11:09:02 PM
Wait, what?
I guess she stood right in front of Cirno on Diamond Blizzard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 06, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
*Game overs on 30% Reflowering again*

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Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on February 06, 2012, 11:39:48 PM
dat feel when you full perfect every stage and everything and get 1death at Sumizome . . . (PCB Normal (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18585))
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 06, 2012, 11:51:32 PM
Dear Miss Toyosatomimi no Miko

I humbly request the cessation of your use of "Falling Spirits on the Divine Spirit Mausoleum." It is not a particular favorite of mine to dodge and I find that it is the only thing holding me from Mamizou Futatsuiwa, whom I would quite enjoy fighting, I find. Your card is the last thing in the game, and seeing as I've captured every other card in your fight before, I do find no reason for your repeated desire to sweep me of my resources on a card that has turned out quite nonindicative of it's difficulty.

Yours, Taizen Chisou
Huh. I found Newborn Divine Spirit (aka Falling Spirits on the Divine Spirit Mausoleum on normal) one of the easiest Miko cards. You just have to misdirect falling spirits by moving almost no horisontal under Miko. And i found it better to be at the bottom when they aim at you all at once, so they fly away faster and wont be a problem. Same goes for the moment the final phase kicks in. You may also need to hold your fire to get to the bottom in time. But if you feel unable to capture it in 1CC - plan your route through the game to have enough resourses till it. Usually one bomb is enough to neuter the menace if you screw something ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 07, 2012, 12:47:04 AM
WHAT
THE FUCK
IS FANTASY HEAVEN
DOING

FUCK WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON IMPERISHABLE SHOOTING THE GAPS ARE OBVIOUS BUT THEY'RE JUST TIGHT AS FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on February 07, 2012, 03:41:10 AM
I 1cced Ten Desires on Lunatic for the first time. Then the game crashed to desktop after the ending so I lost the replay and the score. Awesome
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 07, 2012, 07:51:06 AM
FUCK WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON IMPERISHABLE SHOOTING THE GAPS ARE OBVIOUS BUT THEY'RE JUST TIGHT AS FUCK

Look forward to SA Lunatic.  :V



Oh jesus, I don't remember LLS looking that much like ass. Oh well... gameplay's still cool right? Nope, Either Next98 gives a monstrous amount of input lag or its just Marisa's speed that sucks. Oh and bland patterns much? Except for those cool few.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 07, 2012, 12:27:16 PM
Look forward to SA Lunatic.  :V


The best one too. Though playing as Marisa in it is painful.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 07, 2012, 05:13:15 PM
Oh buggers.

I had one of the derpiest EoSD Hard runs in a long, long time. In fact, I started Stage 5 with two lives. I was so upset that I decided to go into ~hardcore mode~ and go one derp away from a perfect Sakuya, entering Stage 6 with 3 lives and 3 bombs. I bomb, I derp, I capture, eventually I reach Scarlet Miester with 2 lives and 0 bombs. I die to the first follow-up wave which is just unfortunate. Then I proceed to die again at the very next opportunity, with, obviously, full bombs. I got so pissed that I used another bomb just to finish the card, and I'm up against her last with 2 bombs.

I have captured this card before.

I bomb twice when it wasn't needed.

I die when I get walled.

When will I ever get this bullshit 1cc?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 07, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
Frak.

Losing SA Lunatic to Parsee and PCB Lunatic to Mid-Alice's "Maiden Bunraku."
In my defense, I've only attained one extend in both runs.

I love how you get three extends virutally gratis in Stage 3.
Alice, 125 Points, 200 Points.
I had 120. >:(

Blind/First Time/what-have-you SA Hard run, get to BoWaP.

Holy shit, I might be able to do this.

Haha, nooooo
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 08, 2012, 02:02:32 AM
Hey guys, which do you prefer dodging, Release of the Id or Super-Ego?

I'll give you a hint what I prefer: I've never gotten past Super-Ego.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 08, 2012, 02:07:51 AM
Dude


Since when have backward bullets been easier than forward bullets

Id  07 / 09
Super-Ego  00 / 08
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 08, 2012, 02:20:19 AM
Id history: 11/17
Superego history: 6/14
Superego is harder.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 08, 2012, 02:37:12 AM
I thought I was the only one. Huh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on February 08, 2012, 02:57:58 AM
Another vote for Ego.
(http://i.imgur.com/rNR61.png)

It's confusing ~ ~  @_@

but this spell is worse !
(http://i.imgur.com/Uqecd.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on February 08, 2012, 03:03:48 AM
Release of Id - 37/87 (42.5%)
Super Ego - 24/76 (31.6%)

Super Ego is harder, although not considerably harder than Id, for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 08, 2012, 04:24:18 AM
Wow I find Release of the Id to be much harder. It's kinda clippy, while Super Ego is a cakewalk.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 08, 2012, 03:02:57 PM
Ego is harder than ID when you're new. You get a lot more control over the former as time passes.

15/19 is ID.
9/17 is Ego.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 08, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
The fuck man? Ego will always be harder simply because the pattern is coming from behind you. Unless you're like Zil and completely certifiable.

I remember once some board had this competition where we were supposed to time both Id and Ego out in one run. It was by far the second one that made me the most dizzy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: 3266442 on February 08, 2012, 10:53:51 PM
I used to be great at Id, but when I found a good strategy for Ego I've only captured Id once or twice. What happened?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 09, 2012, 02:12:26 AM
Doing so probably mis-aligned your faith in ZUN's hitboxes

TD Extra.

THIS IS EASIER THAN THAT WHY HAVEN'T I WON YET
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 09, 2012, 02:15:23 AM
TD Extra.

THIS IS EASIER THAN THAT WHY HAVEN'T I WON YET
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on February 09, 2012, 02:48:05 AM
Okay, so I have this tendency for when I think of an attack as a joke I almost completely forget what it even is. It's just background noise basically. Miko's last card was one such attack.

Was.

What made it stick out in my mind? The results of an attempt to no-vertical clear Ten Desires on Normal. After a ton of tries filled with failure, I finally manage to get that far. With 0/0 in stock and a joke attack left...I suddenly remember the nature of that joke attack.

Oh, fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 09, 2012, 03:21:48 AM
Okay, so I have this tendency for when I think of an attack as a joke I almost completely forget what it even is. It's just background noise basically. Miko's last card was one such attack.

Was.

What made it stick out in my mind? The results of an attempt to no-vertical clear Ten Desires on Normal. After a ton of tries filled with failure, I finally manage to get that far. With 0/0 in stock and a joke attack left...I suddenly remember the nature of that joke attack.

Oh, fuck.
Haha. I remember the same happened to me while trying to do easy no vertical. Except i've got to it with a life and two bombs, wich didnt helped. Btw, i thought TD normal no vertival is impossible cause of Seiga's midboss card (in addition to Futo's last one). Also, have you used Reimu and her spirit sucking ability? Also check out this (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=16510) replay. Maybe it will help you someway.
And if you saved replay of that run i would be like to take a look at it ;)



Meanwhile. Why? WHY? Why can i perfect MoF stage 4 normal in practice and then completely fail it during long run? :fail: Same goes for TD normal stage 6.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on February 09, 2012, 08:18:09 AM
Marine Benefits
OK seriously what's wrong with Sanae's extra stage. With this many lives, I still can't beat it!

First of all, the input lag makes certain precision movement practically impossible - the reason why I can't capture midboss third spell with any reliability, and also clip death in rainbow mist card despite wide gaps, and finally unable to death bomb!
I just want that the same tap register the same number of pixels, not sometimes 0, sometimes 1, sometimes 5!

1st card - if I can just *remember* what I'm supposed to do, and not derp...

2nd card - is the boss movement random? Her moving wildly across the screen is the #1 cause of death! (cuz it makes the card wayyyy longer to kill and I tend to surprise death if I move horizontally to catch up)

3rd card - how the hell do I dodge the blue wave, which moves at mach 5? Alternatively, any bombing strategy for Sanae A? Every time I bomb I seem to end up at the exact same wave, which means that unless I can dodge that, I'll have to die and then pointblank her with RGB options.

4th card - I can capture this
5th card - just keep circling around the screen ?!?! How does the boss move?? I hate it when I bomb circling around the top and then the boss trolls by returning quickly to the bottom while I'm still at the top! Resource eater!
6th card - clip! otherwise should be able to do

7th card (survival 1) - I'm waiting to capture this... but why do I keep making stupid mistakes
8th card (survival 2) - ?????? unable to anticipate deaths / bomb preemptively
9th card - ?????????????????? multiple deaths every time I reach this card.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 09, 2012, 09:32:09 AM
The fuck man? Ego will always be harder simply because the pattern is coming from behind you.
Not true, simply because it's not the EXACT same pattern. You have a hell of a lot of room to dodge Ego when you're at the very bottom of the screen. Hell, I could probably capture it consistently with no focus. When you're used to it enough, it coming from behind becomes a complete non-issue. On the other hand, ID stays about the same and the space you have to dodge is STILL small and quite clippy.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 09, 2012, 09:41:17 AM
Another thing about Super Ego is when you dodge through the hearts at the bottom you can basically just bump into the bottom of the screen and then start moving up again. With Id you're completely surrounded by bullets, so you have to be careful not to lurch too far in one direction. You have way more room to move in Ego.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 09, 2012, 02:21:18 PM
I HATE YOU SCARLET GENSOYKO I WAS ALL SET TO GO AND FINALLY CAPTURE YOU ON LUNATIC IN LIKE 10 TRIES BUT NO YOU DECIDE TO GO THROW A WALL AT ME BUT I STILL DEPLETE THE HEALTH BAR WITHOUT BOMBING, DYING, BREAKING A BORDER OR TRANCING OR ANYTHING STUPID LIKE THAT BUT NO I END UP WITH A DOUBLE KO.

This should be an accomplishment but all I can feel is rage.

AND NOW SCARLET MEISTER DOUBLE KOS ME TOO BUT THIS TIME I WAS AT 125 POWER IF I WAS AT FULL THAT'D HAVE BEEN A CAPTURE REMILIA YOU SUCK I HATE YOU

This should also be an accomplishment but all I can feel is rage.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Yamame on February 10, 2012, 02:06:42 AM
*captures Red UFO for the first time in 22 tries*

Awesome, this is going to be a good run!

*dies to next nonspell, which I don't think I've failed before*
*dies to Blue UFO*
*dies to Danmaku Chimaera, first fail since I captured it the first time*
*dies to Undefined Darkness*

7 bombs total lost in those four deaths. No comment.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 10, 2012, 01:36:19 PM
(Not my rage, but)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nMjvFNXm_c


Lol little sisters

OH GOD SA LUNATIC

WHY AM I HAVING FUN IF THIS IS MADNESS
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 10, 2012, 08:34:54 PM
*rocking back and forth crying*

I FUCKING HATE DOUBLE SPOILER

I'VE SPENT ALMOST A FUCKING YEAR ON 7-1

A FUCKING YEARRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 10, 2012, 08:36:40 PM
7-7 is worse. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 10, 2012, 08:52:19 PM
7-7 is worse. :V

NO IT IS NOT. THE LOCATIONS OF THE FUCKING LASER SWIRLS ARE A THOUSAND TIMES EASIER TO PREDICT THAN THE FUCKING CRISS-CROSS LASERS OF 7-1'S FINAL FUCKING PHAAAAASE

I FUCKING HATE YOU SHOU I WILL FUCKING CUT YOUR HEAD OFF AND SHOW IT TO NAZRIN BEFORE FORCE-FEEDING IT DOWN HER FUCKING GULLET SO THAT SHE'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT SHE ATE HER PARTNER/MASTER/BEST FRIEND'S HEAD FOR A YEAR BEFORE I FUCKING KILL HER AND I WILL LAUGH MANIACALLY AS SHE CRIES IN AGONY KNOWING THAT HER FRIEND/PARTNER/MASTER/WHATEVER IS GONE

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAAHAHSILOHSDHFIOHKILGHIOEHGWIFUCKINGLOVEDOUBLESPOILERAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHIOLHIWEHBGPILEWHGPOIEHGPIOWEHGWPEHGWEGIJWGIPEHPIOEGWH WQHIFGHEIPOGWEPGHEWGWGIOPWEQHGVOIWGHPOIWEHOIWHGWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'M SO INTENT ON TRYING TO DO THIS BECAUSE I WANT A FULL VIDEO OF STAGE 7 OF DOUBLE SPOILER SO THAT I'M NOT INCONSISTENT AT ALL WITH MY DOUBLE SPOILER STAGES I WANT EVERYTHING TO BE PERFECT BE ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY PERFECT
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 10, 2012, 09:06:33 PM
154 pre-clear photos @ 7-1.

287 pre-clear photos @ 7-7 and still no clear.

They're "predictable" but they move WAAAY too fast and catch me off-guard 99.999% of the time.

The only true bullfuckingshit part in 7-1 is the last part. I vaguely remember hitting the computer screen once or twice while dying there.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 10, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
NO IT IS NOT. THE LOCATIONS OF THE FUCKING LASER SWIRLS ARE A THOUSAND TIMES EASIER TO PREDICT THAN THE FUCKING CRISS-CROSS LASERS OF 7-1'S FINAL FUCKING PHAAAAASE

You don't even need to predict anything here. Just move out of the way of any laser that comes near you. It should certainly be something you can knock out with average reaction time.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Koishi Komeiji on February 10, 2012, 10:05:47 PM
I died at Reimu Hard CtC. Almost did a complete 1cc.

And it was the first spell card...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 10, 2012, 10:36:47 PM
It's not like rage more like wtf. Just tried TD hard ultra... Holy shit! This is harder than regular lunatic. Not only there are much more bullets, and they move faster, but the overall pacing is higher. The delays between enemies spawning and boss attacks phases are significantly shorter. I think it's totally doable, cause i havent seen any pattern that looks like totally impossible bullshit. (well there are some >_<) But as for now not even autobombs can help me. Took me 3 continues to "clear" this hell.

P.S.: Cant get rid of feeling that this is how this game should be made by ZUN

P.P.S.: Seiga/Yoshika fight is still easy :V well easy compared to the rest. They've got some amazing upgrades too.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 10, 2012, 10:46:16 PM
My Stage 7 DS clear order:
7-3
7-4
7-5
7-6
7-2
7-1
7-7
The only DS scene that is RAGE though is 9-7.

Quote from: Me in a different thread
? on: January 03, 2012, 05:53:34 pm ?
Quote from: nintendonut888 on January 03, 2012, 05:34:37 pm
It's pretty funny though, you have to admit.

No.  Not funny at all.

Quote from: Zil on January 03, 2012, 05:40:32 pm
Like Donut said, I couldn't even get mad at the thing, it's just so ridiculous it's funny. (Of course, if it took 1,000+ tries I might have been a bit more...upset.)

Well I'm pretty pissed at it right now, 1355 pictures with Aya, 260 with Hatate, no clear.

Quote from: Lepetit89 on January 03, 2012, 05:45:40 pm
With three photos, you can clear it with luck in a reasonable amount of time.

So 5+ hours is reasonable?

Quote from: Serela on January 03, 2012, 05:48:25 pm
While I rarely even say anything in these threads anymore, I think I shan't pass up the rare opportunity for me to

I got 9-7 in 15 pictures.

Lucky you.

EDIT: TAKE THAT SATORI!!! 1408 pictures with Aya and 325 with Hatate.  1733 pictures total.
One thing to add, if Satori is trying to use the danmaku that would scare/scar you the most, this is the StB scene to bring back, even it is stupid
Even though I haven't touched the scene since then, I'm still pissed at it.  Probably my biggest RAGE moment in anything ever actually.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 10, 2012, 11:24:54 PM
Fudge. Second try, reach Mamizou with I think 3.4 lives and 3.5 bombs or something. Got to Seventh Duel. Her nonspells get wacky after a while, it seems. Also, those birds :flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 11, 2012, 12:18:13 AM
154 pre-clear photos @ 7-1.

287 pre-clear photos @ 7-7 and still no clear.

They're "predictable" but they move WAAAY too fast and catch me off-guard 99.999% of the time.

The only true bullfuckingshit part in 7-1 is the last part. I vaguely remember hitting the computer screen once or twice while dying there.

554 Pre-Clear photos on 7-1.

I already understand enough about 7-7 to be able to clear it within the quota of 300 pre-clear shots.

7-1's last part's a load of shit. It's just ZUN deciding to give us the middle finger. Compared to 7-7, it's horrible.

You don't even need to predict anything here. Just move out of the way of any laser that comes near you. It should certainly be something you can knock out with average reaction time.

"move out of the way"? "Knock out with average reaction time", Zengeku? Really? Because you for one have the reaction time of a cat with an overstimulated brain, it's going to be easy as shit for you. Those lasers are the kind that have no predictability whatsoever, and when you pair that up with very fucking little chance of getting close enough to Shou to take one of the two required pictures to end the card's last phase, how am I going to do that, Zengeku? How the hell am I going to do that? I'd love to see a strategy that allows consistent clearing methods.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 11, 2012, 12:55:22 AM
Huh. I figured I see what this is all about so I went to check the scene in DS, only to find that half of my data has vanished completely. The only scenes I have now are the few I did as Hatate, though now it says they were done as Aya and I cannot play as Hatate.

Whatever. 7-1 isn't really that bad. Those lasers aren't very fast and you can read them ahead of time, so you don't need to react quickly. 7-7 is much harder. I remember having to go back and get that one later.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: strangedudemeh on February 11, 2012, 01:36:56 AM
Gah, that's getting old. No matter how many times I try PCB Extra, I fail. I tried to do it with all shottypes - I failed. I studied every replay I could find - I failed. No matter how hard did I try, I still fail. Even on spellcards that look easy I always die in most stupid way, and let's not even talk about stuff like Kokkuri-san's Contract. Yeah, I know, there's always a way to capture every spellcard, but I just can't. I'm always getting nervous and slip up. I already hate that cursed day when I decided to clear that Extra. And it's almost painful to launch PCB for me now.

Excuse me for that rant, just don't know what to do, really.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 11, 2012, 01:48:25 AM
Gah, that's getting old. No matter how many times I try PCB Extra, I fail. I tried to do it with all shottypes - I failed. I studied every replay I could find - I failed. No matter how hard did I try, I still fail. Even on spellcards that look easy I always die in most stupid way, and let's not even talk about stuff like Kokkuri-san's Contract. Yeah, I know, there's always a way to capture every spellcard, but I just can't. I'm always getting nervous and slip up. I already hate that cursed day when I decided to clear that Extra. And it's almost painful to launch PCB for me now.

Excuse me for that rant, just don't know what to do, really.

How about posting a replay so we can watch it and give you suggestions?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: strangedudemeh on February 11, 2012, 01:55:48 AM
Oh, here is it (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18743). That capture of Ultimate Buddhist was lucky.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 11, 2012, 02:24:57 AM
Oh, here is it (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18743). That capture of Ultimate Buddhist was lucky.
Just as a general thing, never let your borders end on their own. Break them at the last second to clear the screen and get extra cherry. Also when you bomb during a spell move up on top of the boss to convert bullets to cherry and buy yourself more time after the bomb wears off. And I don't know what your idea was on Red Oni Blue Oni. That would only take one bomb if you waited a bit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 11, 2012, 02:44:46 AM
Okay, let's play TD normal ultra. It must be as hard as a good touhou normal should be. And as i know it by heart, let's run the version without autodeathbombing and do it no bombs...

15 mins later... Game over on Futo. WTF was this i dont even :wat: Well, now Ten Desires defenitely looks like a good touhou normal. Probably as hard as MoF but without that much bombs and with just a few lives. Some places became unreasonably harder, some got broken. But i'm gonna do it anyway, cause now it's some real challenge that fits my skill. And it looks easier than to do regular hard no bombs, wich i did recently. But almost all old routes and tricks dont work anymore due to level pace significantly increased. You can now barely get 4 extends even with trance.

Damn. Just tried stage 6 in practice and i must say this not gonna happen (for me). It's impossible to survive Miko without bombs uless you came to her with zillion lives, wich cant be done. So i'd try to do at least a no death 1CC. :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Koishi Komeiji on February 11, 2012, 02:53:38 AM
Is this Raging enough for you:
Almost completed Yukari then died on the slowdown where bullets are slow.. Because, I feel pretty mad right now. :/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 11, 2012, 03:32:49 AM
Oh, here is it (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18743). That capture of Ultimate Buddhist was lucky.
Just as a general thing, never let your borders end on their own. Break them at the last second to clear the screen and get extra cherry. Also when you bomb during a spell move up on top of the boss to convert bullets to cherry and buy yourself more time after the bomb wears off. And I don't know what your idea was on Red Oni Blue Oni. That would only take one bomb if you waited a bit.

Yeah, break borders as a way to clear the screen.

Learn the order of the eight fairies early in the beginning of the stage to prevent them from firing in the first place. You need to learn when to run to the POC to collect point items. There was no need to bomb twice during Red Oni Blue Oni. Wait a bit. I think Chen is invincible for a short amount of time. (Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong.)

Wizard Fox Thoughts: Start from the edge so you don't get walled.

Youkai Laser: It's easier if you are closer to Ran.

Fourth non-card: Every other wave is aimed at you.

It seems you have a habit of only wanting to occupy the bottom half of the screen. Right after a Spell Card ends, run straight up to the POC then head back down.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on February 11, 2012, 05:38:40 AM
Huh. I figured I see what this is all about so I went to check the scene in DS, only to find that half of my data has vanished completely. The only scenes I have now are the few I did as Hatate, though now it says they were done as Aya and I cannot play as Hatate.

Whatever. 7-1 isn't really that bad. Those lasers aren't very fast and you can read them ahead of time, so you don't need to react quickly. 7-7 is much harder. I remember having to go back and get that one later.

I cleared 7-7 in 28 shots, dunno how. 7-1, on the other hand, took 156 shots.
But lol, I went to check it as well... and then sank 300 shots on 7-3, and then 500 shots on 12-4
Also, just went sweeping out uncleared scenes in level 1 to level 6 - those levels are now all cleared!
Now I remember why I loathe these photography games. Giant addicting time-wasters.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 11, 2012, 06:36:29 AM
*sees Stage 12-3*

...

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on February 11, 2012, 07:05:37 AM
^ Um... watching a video or replay may help.
Basically, take a photo as Byakuren moves off screen to the left. Take a photo when later on Byakuren moves off the right and appear on the left again. Those photos are necessary to make a path for you to not get walled. After that, it's some vertical streaming (albeit a difficult one).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 11, 2012, 11:32:45 AM
"move out of the way"? "Knock out with average reaction time", Zengeku? Really? Because you for one have the reaction time of a cat with an overstimulated brain, it's going to be easy as shit for you. Those lasers are the kind that have no predictability whatsoever, and when you pair that up with very fucking little chance of getting close enough to Shou to take one of the two required pictures to end the card's last phase, how am I going to do that, Zengeku? How the hell am I going to do that? I'd love to see a strategy that allows consistent clearing methods.

Well... Its not really that fast you know? But seriously then, have you tried to flip the camera with the x button. Its possible that you haven't. I didn't even realize that you could do so before reaching level 9. I don't know if it will help but i just made a replay for you. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18747

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: SusiKette on February 11, 2012, 11:47:56 AM
I think it's annoying that people say that IN is easiest game so far, and that EoSD is hardest... -_-

...I can't even beat IN on normal, but I can beat EoSD on normal with both characters and weapons. And then, if they say that EoSD is hard they should try MoF. It's propably hardest one I've played.
I just can't beat Kanako on normal because of that damn new continue system >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 11, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
What the hell was ZUN THINKING with Scarlet Meister.
The card itself is fine, very challenging but doable.
No, my issue is with THE BACKGROUND.
HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO SEE THOSE RED BULLETS ON A RED BACKGROUND FAST ENOUGH TO REACT MOST OF THE TIME
Add to this my 2 double KOs, 1 not at full power, and understand my frustration at this card.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Koishi Komeiji on February 11, 2012, 02:40:28 PM
What the hell was ZUN THINKING with Scarlet Meister.
The card itself is fine, very challenging but doable.
No, my issue is with THE BACKGROUND.
HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO SEE THOSE RED BULLETS ON A RED BACKGROUND FAST ENOUGH TO REACT MOST OF THE TIME
Add to this my 2 double KOs, 1 not at full power, and understand my frustration at this card.

Well, that would be ZUN's way of trolling you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 11, 2012, 02:52:23 PM
I think it's annoying that people say that IN is easiest game so far, and that EoSD is hardest... -_-

...I can't even beat IN on normal, but I can beat EoSD on normal with both characters and weapons. And then, if they say that EoSD is hard they should try MoF. It's propably hardest one I've played.
You're using bombs, right? 0_0
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 11, 2012, 03:55:17 PM
Well... Its not really that fast you know? But seriously then, have you tried to flip the camera with the x button. Its possible that you haven't. I didn't even realize that you could do so before reaching level 9. I don't know if it will help but i just made a replay for you. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18747

1. I have used X before, and I honestly use it a lot when I try to get pictures of this because I'm a fucking pussy when it comes to trying to get near Shou in that card.

2. Thank you.

EDIT

HALLEFUCKINGLUJAH
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Koishi Komeiji on February 11, 2012, 04:09:42 PM
I can't believe I died at the easiest touhou game on history, "Ten Desires". Stupid Futo.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Koishi Komeiji on February 11, 2012, 04:36:06 PM
*captures Red UFO for the first time in 22 tries*

Awesome, this is going to be a good run!

*dies to next nonspell, which I don't think I've failed before*
*dies to Blue UFO*
*dies to Danmaku Chimaera, first fail since I captured it the first time*
*dies to Undefined Darkness*

7 bombs total lost in those four deaths. No comment.

You beginner? Well, all I can say is, "Practice makes Perfect" or so on :3!


Anyway, I've been testing out a MusicReplace thing at MoF, and the music makes you distracted so I die. Fuck Sanae's First Card. I keep dieing on it at Normal-Modo!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 11, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
FACK

Enter Mamizou with 3.6 lives 2.25 bombs
Die to First Duel
Die to Second Duel
Die to Third Nonspell
Lose to Amphibian Transformation
I only used one bomb the whole way ;-;

...
FUCK I FORGOT TO CHANGE THE HIGHSCORE NAME
MY LITTLE SISTER HAS FIRST PLACE NOW
(Even if it's only 90 million ;-; )
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on February 11, 2012, 07:34:13 PM
SHIIIIIT!

Hating on Scarlet Fucking Meister -Lunatic....Need to survive then bomb! So close to that 1cc! Go ReimuB! Go!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on February 11, 2012, 09:52:19 PM
Now I remember why I couldn't will myself to reinstall Ten Desires before now. Somehow it's even less fun than I remember. It's not even that hard, and me being unable to 1cc it anymore is obviously on me (because I keep forgetting where shit is), but there's just nothing... motivating about any of the patterns. I don't get that drive to really try hard during anything like I do from the other games.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 11, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
Lost three lives to Yuugi, and I failed to get past Satori

...ON NORMAL

/me goes off to play something easier
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 11, 2012, 11:26:47 PM
Here's what Shou Toramaru said to me in stage 7-3 in a nutshell:

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/226/9/9/hq_no_you_can__t_poster_by_rinkuchani-d46ibpy.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 12, 2012, 12:39:08 AM
Lost three lives to Yuugi, and I failed to get past Satori

...ON NORMAL
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on February 12, 2012, 12:39:43 AM
mamizou why do you exist
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 12, 2012, 12:51:43 AM
Unzan why do you exist

Fixed.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 12, 2012, 06:27:20 AM
Now I remember why I couldn't will myself to reinstall Ten Desires before now. Somehow it's even less fun than I remember. It's not even that hard, and me being unable to 1cc it anymore is obviously on me (because I keep forgetting where shit is), but there's just nothing... motivating about any of the patterns. I don't get that drive to really try hard during anything like I do from the other games.
This is pretty much the only reason I don't have a TD lunatic 1cc.
Well, aside from a couple of late-game patterns THAT I NEVER REACH because I don't care until Stage 5.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 12, 2012, 07:52:19 AM
Here's what Shou Toramaru said to me in stage 7-3 in a nutshell:

She telegraphs whenever she bum rushes you. Make sure not to stand in front of her when that happens and don't stand right behind her either and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on February 12, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
*sigh* Still Kinkaku-Ji Ultra. Again, close. Should just stop using defensive pictures in the last phase: there is just one chance, after that I won't be able to make it out of the defensive. Anything else just delays my demise. At least I make it to the dark-blue phase quite a lot by now.
Doesn't change the fact that my "pictures taken" count is atrocious. I will reveal it whenever (or: IF) I beat it, don't worry. Will be good for a laugh I suppose. :V

Might actually end my expedition into StB Ultra with Kinkaku-Ji, at least for now. Thanks to the 3 different speed levels I'm having a hard time in the normal games (there's still the UFO hard 1cc and just about every lunatic 1cc except for PCB [which was a pretty pathetic "LOL Border abuse LOL" 1cc] on my to-do list). Pity that I probably won't see what they made of Extra but... whatever really. I've hit a wall.
This is as far as I'm willing and able to go. Anymore would probably destroy any kind of motivation and skill I might've had while I try to do the same pattern over and over again. This level of difficulty (some might call it BS... I'm inclined to agree in some cases) is far beyond me. Heck, it was since level 6 and I still dragged myself along.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Jq1790 on February 12, 2012, 11:17:10 PM
Decided to finally try playing Mystic Square...  My last Normal play went thusly:
-Died to some random thing towards the end of the second boss.
-Died once or twice to Alice.
-Game Over'd for the first time in S4 somewhere, I forget where.
-Lost another life to...Yuki, I think it was.
-Blew a ton of bombs in S5 trying not to get knifed, etc.  Also barely missed the third point extend and died somewhere in the boss fight.
-Got completely destroyed by Shinki, losing all 7 lives I had.  (4 for this continue by the time I reached her, then for the final continue I had the 3.)
-During said Shinki battle, died twice almost right in a row to her cheeto lasers of death before finally figuring them out right when the attack was about to end.
-Barely got into the phase where she was shooting purple orbs when one crashed into me, taking my last life.

Ugh.  And somehow I've beaten Phantasm?  Is it the lack of hitbox, maybe?  (Is there a hitbox patch out there for this game?)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: strangedudemeh on February 12, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
Meh... I've entered UFO Stage 5 with max lives, left with 2. Byakuren of course ate them all. I don't understand how such an easy-looking boss like Shou can be so fiendish. =/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 13, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
[tso]Hey kids this is an example of way too much, don't do this[/tso]

*sobbing, rocking back and forth, moping about how talentless he is, sitting at a game over screen of UFO Stage 3, Hard Difficulty*

I FUCKING HATE YOU UFO GO FUCK YOURSELF NOBODY LIKES YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT I FUCKING HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

THIRTY FUCKING TIMES I HAVE SEEN EVERY SINGLE ATTACK THAT ICHIRIN FUCKING HAS GOD DAMMIT I FUCKING HATE UFO

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE SEEN BUSY ROD OR ANY OF NAZRIN'S OTHER SHITTY CARD SETS GOD DAMMIT I FUCKING HATE UFO

GOD
DAMMIT
I
FUCKING
HATE
UFO

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HAVE PLAYED UFO ON HARD SO MANY FUCKING TIMES AND I RARELY EVER FUCKING GET TO STAGE 3 BECAUSE I CAN'T STAND DYING ON STAGE 1 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FUCK YOU UFO I NEVER FUCKING WANT TO SEE OR HEAR YOU EVER AGAIN I PRACTICALLY HATE YOUR MUSIC SELECTION, ESPECIALLY STAGE 1 BECAUSE THEY ALL REMIND ME OF EVERY FUCKING TIME THAT MY MASOCHISM HAS COME TO ITS GOD DAMN LIMITS GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU UFO YOU DESERVE YOUR OWN GOD DAMN SEAT IN HELL AND WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON ZUN I'M GOING TO CUT EVERY SQUARE INCH OF HIS BODY AND DOUSE HIM IN VODKA TO MAKE HIM KNOW HOW HIS KIDNEYS AND LIVER FEEL

...Heh...
AHAHAHLIASHGHEAQIGHEIGHIWPHGPWHAHAAHAHAHAAHJHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHPHAHHSAHSHAIHSHAIPHIAHIHIPOGHEIGHIEGHEWIGHWEIHGWHEOIGWEHGTHWSEHTG
NO NOT THE NICE MEN IN CLEAN WHITE SUITS
NOOOOOO
NO DON'T TAKE ME AWAY
NO
NOOOOO IEGHIOEGOIHEWIOGHWEIGNDOHGTIDEHGIOWEHGT ON NN OO NON NON ONO NO
NOT THE KUCKOO BIN MY MOTHER'S STILL PAYING FOR THE LAST VISIT NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
DON'T TAKE ME AWAY PLEASE NO

ICHIRIN WHEN I GET MY GOD DAMN HANDS ON YOU I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIE A HORRIBLE PAINFUL DEATH AND THAT YOU WATCH YOUR BEST FRIEND AKA MISTER FUCKING STUPID BROFIST SHRIVEL INTO NOTHING IN THE MOST PAINFUL WAY I CAN MAKE HIM AND THEN KILL YOU SLOWLY BY STABBING SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY WITH A RUSTY KNIFE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 13, 2012, 10:46:28 PM

NOBODY LIKES YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT


I guess I'm a nobody :<

Why don't you just continue 5363463623 times so you can unlock every stage for practice?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 13, 2012, 11:06:36 PM
I guess I'm a nobody :<

Why don't you just continue 5363463623 times so you can unlock every stage for practice?

If I can't get past Ichirin with four lives and two bombs

WHAT THE FUCK MAKES YOU THINK I CAN WITH TWO LIVES AND TWO BOMBS

[tso]^^^^ this right here will get you probated or worse[/tso]
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 13, 2012, 11:15:56 PM
If I can't get past Ichirin with four lives and two bombs
Couldn't you just mash the bomb button and beat her? She's only got 6 attacks total, and you have 8 bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 14, 2012, 01:43:17 AM
AAARGH

Died to Aya's Macro Circles Nonspell on Lunatic mode with 149 million points >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: strangedudemeh on February 14, 2012, 02:14:23 AM
I guess I should really stop trying to beat UFO Normal, because while Ran was pretty nasty for me, her spellcards was kinda easy to figure out in the end. Spellcards in UFO on other hand are made of pure, high-level cheapness. Fourth stage boss nonspells is like the bane of my existence - no matter how I try to dodge this small stuff, it always hits me with 100% chance. And unlike PCB Extra, this is not even fun - if you failed once, you're basically forced to repeat entire thing from the start. And let's not even talk about Shou... Basically, my battle with her goes like this: "Hey, what did just hit me, hey I wanted to bomb that but was killed where charging it, oh, some stuff flying on me, let's dodge, oh nope I got laser'd". And what completely kills me is that it's not even hard - it's just cheap. Well... I think I just should forget that UFO exists, I believe that will be the best choice.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 14, 2012, 02:17:11 AM
Couldn't you just mash the bomb button and beat her? She's only got 6 attacks total, and you have 8 bombs.

I have a Lucifer-Base Mentality, or "I don't like playing like a shmuck that 1ccs his games by bombing nonstop".
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 14, 2012, 02:22:47 AM
"NO
DISREGARD THAT I STILL HAVE POWER
I CAN DODGE THIS!"

*pichu~n*

"AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH"

*Stock MoF Bomb Noise*

*Spin the Cephalic Plate begins*

"NO
DISREGARD THAT I STILL HAVE POWER
I CAN DODGE THIS"

et al.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 14, 2012, 02:30:03 AM
(http://g.images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/14550830.jpg)

SERIOUSLY NAZRIN WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS YOUR LUNATIC FINISHING CARD EASIER THAN YOUR HARD FINISHING

I CAPTURED PENDULUM GUARD ON MY FIRST TRY WHILE NAZRIN PENDULUM GAVE ME HELL

WHAT THE FUCK NAZRIN

WHAT THE FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 14, 2012, 02:35:19 AM
If I can't get past Ichirin with four lives and two bombs

WHAT THE FUCK MAKES YOU THINK I CAN WITH TWO LIVES AND TWO BOMBS

That didn't stop me from continuing 13+ times in SA Hard to unlock all six stages for Practice Mode
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 14, 2012, 02:47:10 AM
I have a Lucifer-Base Mentality, or "I don't like playing like a shmuck that 1ccs his games by bombing nonstop".
But just to unlock it for practice it would be a good idea. You're trying to take too big of a step and it's preventing you from progressing. Use bombs now and then when you're better go and do a no bombs run.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Jq1790 on February 14, 2012, 06:58:49 AM
Managed to make it to Stage 6 in LLS, go into the Yuka battle with, I think, 1L/2B.  Despite the (relatively) low resources, I STILL make it as far as her red-healthbar-phase before she finally kills me.  That'd probably go into the other thread...if I didn't have a bomb and could swear I hit the button before impact.  Yuka, I'm gonna ENJOY my victory even more after this...  You WILL be defeated, most likely within the week. 

I guess I SHOULDN'T rage about this though, since I made it this far in two days.  Much better than how long it took me to get my PCB 1cc, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: helvetica on February 14, 2012, 05:42:49 PM
Friendly heads up.  I know this is a vent thread and all but going over the top with caps and oversized fonts and tags and stuff is kind of excessive.  And yelling at other people offering advice is definitely never cool.

Now back to your regularly scheduled rage.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Goldom on February 14, 2012, 10:55:41 PM
I feel like TD Extra should be so easy to clear, but I just fail over and over and over. Look at this nonsense, I've got all this down in practice, but then I just smash into everything when I try to put it together.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on February 15, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
[attach=1]
how
i mean imo it's her hardest spell, but that's not saying much :V
seriously how did i go from 3/9 to 3/22


e-
carnivorous canine transformation
[attach=2]
 >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 15, 2012, 03:22:09 AM
Sadface

My card history for Nine Syllable Stabs is 30 / 60
Miracle Fruit is about 40 / 58
Divine Whatevers is some 20 / 55

Subterranean Rose is 00 / 02 and Philosophy is 00 / 03
I was wrong about my Superego history, turned out to be 00 / 12.
Id is 05 / 14.
Embers of Love is 02 / 04.
Youkai Polygraph I think is 02 / 04 now.

Genetics of the Subconscious has 0 captures, and Rorschach in Danmaku has one.

Ancestors has three captures.


I have never captured Danmaku Paranoia because why are there cards that require faith in hitboxes
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 15, 2012, 05:07:01 AM
I have never captured Danmaku Paranoia because why are there cards that require faith in hitboxes
It's actually just streaming. You could probably do it blindfolded if you got the speed down, and the kunai are irrelevent.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 15, 2012, 05:09:29 AM
It's actually just streaming. You could probably do it blindfolded if you got the speed down, and the kunai are irrelevent.

Pretty much. Ignore the kunai and you won't have to be paranoid about the card :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 15, 2012, 02:15:15 PM
I am currently so furious at myslef that it's hard to type. So I'll post an image instead.

This is from SFN Ultra.

(http://i.imgur.com/yrZXI.png) (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18854)
(Click the image for replay)

I made a movement to bottom-left unfocused after the moment on the screen, in order to dodge the red balls. I died.

FUCKING SHIT ME FUCK DO I HAVE TO SUCK ON THE FUCKING EASY RED WAVES AND ALMOST DIE DUE TO A FUCKING BUBBLE AND TRY TO EVADE IT AND MISREAD MY MOVEMENTS AND HIT A FUCKING BULLET WHEN THE SCREEN IS LEAST DENSE WHY DO I HAVE TO FUCKING LOSE THE GIST OF THE PATTERN AT THAT POINT.


FUCKIG ASL?JFDLASJDLFASFKJASDJ?FJSAL?DFKJSDJVFJSDLFHAS?HLASJLCD FUCK.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Piranha on February 18, 2012, 11:07:44 AM
Died on 01 SECONDS LEFT on And Then There Will Be None :getdown:
This was the first time facing that card,btw.

On one hand, this feels like an achievement, but DAMN IT, SO CLOSE! >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 18, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
*rocking back and forth crying, with the high score screen for MarisaA Normal SA littered with a bunch of scores that ended on Stage 5*

AND THIS WAS THE LEAST TROUBLESOME STAGE THAT'S ACTUALLY HARD AND IN THE STORYLINE TOO IN MY REIMUA CLEAR GOD DAMMIT

[/rage]

And before I have the urge to stab ZUN in the Kidn- wait that's already there. And before I have the urge to drown Ori- WAAAIT. That's also present.

Anyway I'm just pissed off. I've made yet ANOTHER FUCKING LACERATION IN MY HAND

SEE WHAT YOU DO TO ME ORIN

SEE WHAT YOU DO

AAAAANYWAY BEING SERIOUS

Marisa always has the fucking easiest Stage 4 fights and Reimu's Stage 4 fights are pains in the ass.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 18, 2012, 06:53:39 PM
k.
So I just got to ultra hard VoWG with 4 lives in stock.
and still failed, despite having come very close with only 3 in stock.
I HATE YOU

no, but seriously, by all means I should have had it.  But suddenly I couldn't dodge anything.  This defeat...stings a lot more than it should.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18908
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 19, 2012, 02:34:31 AM
DAMMIT KOMACHI

WHY DON'T YOU FIRE PROJECTILES IN UNL

(Reason for raging: I use Yukari, Ride the Waves, Face the Ocean is my specialty attack)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 19, 2012, 03:39:01 AM
SA Hard
Lost a life to BoWaP because I prematurely moved away from the safespot. Lost my last life at Vengeful Cannibal Spirit, a card I have no trouble capturing.

Mad Enhancement: A+++++
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 19, 2012, 06:46:50 AM
SA Hard
Lost a life to BoWaP because I prematurely moved away from the safespot.

FAG- Oh wait. SA HARD. I thought it was Normal/Easy, then I remembered BoWaP on Hard and remembered that I just safespot the damn card because it's too fucking hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 19, 2012, 08:56:58 AM
SA Hard
Lost a life to BoWaP because I prematurely moved away from the safespot. Lost my last life at Vengeful Cannibal Spirit, a card I have no trouble capturing.

Mad Enhancement: A+++++

I guess I should also include that I was one away from an extend
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Alpha Werewolf on February 20, 2012, 05:49:49 AM
ARGH
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/yonilinder1/YES.jpg)

The worst part is that I timed it out around attempt #30, because it takes so bloody long for Reimu to stop being invincible that i thought it was a survival card.

Well, no, the worst part is that I only figured out the blue bullets were also aimed directly at me around attempt #65.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 20, 2012, 06:14:39 AM
ARGH
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/yonilinder1/YES.jpg)

The worst part is that I timed it out around attempt #30, because it takes so bloody long for Reimu to stop being invincible that i thought it was a survival card.

Well, no, the worst part is that I only figured out the blue bullets were also aimed directly at me around attempt #65.

>Calls 77 attempts a problem

LOLNO BUDDY IF YOU THINK THAT'S BAD JUST SEE THIS BULLSHIT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLIFc2jJUrs)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chuckolator on February 20, 2012, 06:48:55 AM
Perfect Nue up until Green UFO, 4/4 lives lost (with 0/8 bombs used) by Rainbow UFO. Undefined Darkness can go to hell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 20, 2012, 06:52:53 AM
Am I seriously the only person that has a problem with Danmaku Chimera?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Alpha Werewolf on February 20, 2012, 07:18:51 AM
Well, yeah, 77 isn't that bad, but consider that I haven't even started playing anything on Hard yet.

I think my absolute worst amount apart for that 77 is around 30 for 1 capture, on one of Reisen's harder spells (but not her last spell; That was around 15-20, I think, which is natural since it's purely about dodging and getting lucky).
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on February 20, 2012, 07:24:23 AM
Am I seriously the only person that has a problem with Danmaku Chimera?

Move in a square, repeat. I guess you could have issues moving precisely but it's a pretty simple card, so yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 20, 2012, 09:05:53 AM
Am I seriously the only person that has a problem with Danmaku Chimera?

When I first encountered it I had a few issues with it too. Its a pretty easy card though. You'll probably learn how to do it sooner or later.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 20, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
Playing Fairy Wars Lunatic for Gold medals is fucking hard man. What makes me 'angry' is the stages. Even though they are better than almost any Touhou stage in the series they become tedious and drawn out. Oh well... and dodging the Lunatic Rain is nutsy hard. A lot of bullets that quickly form walls on you if you don't make it through them fast enough. And they are super dense as well.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on February 21, 2012, 04:21:18 AM
>timing out Red Magic

>gets clipped at 11 seconds left

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 21, 2012, 09:57:01 PM
Well, I'm playing Stage 8 now...

Here's how everything went.

8-1 was okay, I didn't die too much and it wasn't too unfair to register irritation; It was tolerable. 8-2 was mildly painful but I soon figured it out. 8-3 was incredibly easy, I actually did it before I started stage 6. But then 8-4. FUCKING 8-4.

My face looks like someone decided to start whaling on my face with their palm and my right hand looks like a cartographic map of an island mined of all of its natural resources. Funny thing is, I never wanted to hit or bite myself in the first place. I think I'm seriously starting to develop MPD, because I'm hearing many different voices, all negativity towards me. We've got people laughing at me because I'm so horrible (Imagine the "Eeh?! Easy mode?! How lame!" girls making fun of you), army generals scolding me, and my own subconscious calling me every negative adjective in the book. I think I even called myself a dog because I looked like, smelled like, was as smart as, and acted like a dog.

I hate Stage 8.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 21, 2012, 10:03:53 PM
I hate Stage 8.
Just wait till you reach stage 9. ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 21, 2012, 10:24:48 PM
I've played Stage 9. It's mildly tolerable because at least I don't have to stare at red for an hour.

Also, how do you think I handled not exploding on that previous post?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 21, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
Some people have said that they don't like Stage 8. Thats until they reach Level 9 which sucks. Satori and Koishi only has one scene each that came off to me as enjoyable.

Oh and you did well Esu-chan.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 21, 2012, 11:07:39 PM
How to make StB and DS much less irritating:

Disable music. Most irritation comes from not dying, but listening to the same song over and over again.

ARGH I DIED THAT MEANS I HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS TRACK FOR ANOTHER TEN SECONDS
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Arcengal on February 21, 2012, 11:44:50 PM
It's called "Infinite Nightmare" for a reason.

And 8-4 isn't that hard. Just get used to specific patterns of luring Utsuho through and charge accordingly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 22, 2012, 12:06:34 AM
It's called "Infinite Nightmare" for a reason.

And 8-4 isn't that hard. Just get used to specific patterns of luring Utsuho through and charge accordingly.

IT'S NOT THAT IT'S THE FUCKING BULLETS SHE LEAVES BEHIND

Sorry, sorry. Just a bit shattered, I've already gotten halfway to my pre-clear photo count as 7-1. IN ONE DAY.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 22, 2012, 12:29:53 AM
*playing 9-5*

That's all? PFFT!

*tries to snap photo and Satori runs away* HEY!

*gets her up to ceiling* HA!

*snaps photo, and she clips to the bottom of the screen* HEY! FUCK YOU!

*timeout at three good photos* ...

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 22, 2012, 01:51:17 AM
She actually goes to the bottom of the screen? That's kind of hilarious, really.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 22, 2012, 02:34:25 AM
She actually goes to the bottom of the screen? That's kind of hilarious, really.

...MUST. MAKE. COMMENTARY MONTAGE.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 22, 2012, 10:35:43 AM
Yeah, she does.

And I don't recall having problems with Stage 8... at all. Stage 9 is the one full of bull. >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on February 22, 2012, 10:59:15 AM
Kinkaku-ji sucks
also, failed pictures where you have like half the boss's body in the shot suck
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Lepetit89 on February 22, 2012, 11:16:48 AM
How to make StB and DS much less irritating:

Disable music. Most irritation comes from not dying, but listening to the same song over and over again.

ARGH I DIED THAT MEANS I HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS TRACK FOR ANOTHER TEN SECONDS

Really? Actually, I was amazed at the longevity of the tracks. For instance, StB's 9-6 took me almost 10000 photos to clear, several days of Retrospective Kyouto non-stop, still not tired of it, never was, never will!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 22, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
Really? Actually, I was amazed at the longevity of the tracks. For instance, StB's 9-6 took me almost 10000 photos to clear, several days of Retrospective Kyouto non-stop, still not tired of it, never was, never will!
[/quote

Then I guess it's just for people that mainly despise the main soundtrack.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 22, 2012, 11:32:01 AM
The soundtrack is pretty weak in the original StB compared to the rest of the series. DS is better but it can still get pretty monotonous. You should just listen to something better while having the game BGM turned off.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 22, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
The soundtrack is pretty weak in the original StB compared to the rest of the series. DS is better but it can still get pretty monotonous. You should just listen to something better while having the game BGM turned off.

I like having the BGM turned off as much as I like good music. I just naturally hate some of the songs in DS. StB has a much better soundtrack in my opinion.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 22, 2012, 05:40:09 PM
Fuck UFO Stage 5... really. It blows. So what happens when you go through it only to suck big time at the boss dying to unacceptable things in unacceptable ways? You try again and get another horrible fight which creates some nasty irritation.

I'm not satisfied with my runs. Not at fucking all. A run against a boss is trash if I die more than twice and if those twice are against RTG or VoPB then its trash either way because I lost against the two things that I consider to be the most challenging bits. If I don't get those then it becomes a failed fight and I don't want to go through that god awful stage again so I'm left with no choice but to accept that pitiful performance.

Shou and Byakuren are those bosses that I'm least consistent at. And both their stages are mindless grinds. ZUN, you make that fucking boss practice option you find in most of Cave's ports. It can't be that hard to do.

EDIT: Ah the frustration has lifted again. 2 miss no bombs. They were both hilariously dumb so they didn't come off as too frustrating.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 22, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
shou

did this thing

when she runs into you

right after vajra



fuck you, shou

edit: hello post right above me complaining about the same stage :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 22, 2012, 11:14:59 PM
oh gdi

Capture every card in MoF Easy in one run, except for the last two cards

00 / 02
00 / 02

mocking me

Also, both card failures involved death

I probably could have broken 1 billion  :qq:
846 million points
lost two lives
jesus do you know how much closer those two extends could have brought me
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 23, 2012, 08:41:57 PM
Iwafune Ascending to Heaven [Lunatic]

400+ attempts at no-focus Reimu timeout.

Got to T-11/T-10 seconds like 4 or 5 times.

Why is clearing waves consistently so goddamn impossible? >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 23, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
*rocking back and forth in his chair*

FUCK YOU WRIGGLE FUCK YOU MYSTIA WHY DO YOU ALWAYS END UP MAKING ME USE A FUCKING BOMB OR LIFE ON HARD IF I DON'T USE THE  BORDER TEAM
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Thanuris on February 23, 2012, 09:53:09 PM
Reach Murasa with all my extends and two bombs, 2 dumb deaths and one bomb on a easy card, still good for a 1cc, UFO crashes...

God damn it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 23, 2012, 11:30:01 PM
Decided to play PCB Lunatic, can't get past stage 2.

T_T
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 23, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
hahahaha lunatic prismrivers
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on February 24, 2012, 12:01:24 AM
I died while grazing Yuyuko's Ghost Butterfly because I try to graze inside butterflies . (without any practice this trick before )
and it's in full run . What I'm doing!?!  :getdown:  :colonveeplusalpha:
and . . . . PoC after Yuyuko's 1st spell "I hug Yuyuko"
qwasdqsda I need sleep .
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 24, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

FUCK YOU IKARUGA FUCK YOU YOU MAKE TOUHOU LOOK ELEMENTARY IN FUCKING COMPARISON AND IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU THAT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TOUCH MUSHIHIME-SAMA FUTARI BECAUSE THE LAST THING I NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE AN ANGER-INDUCED HEART ATTACK ON ULTRA MODE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 24, 2012, 10:52:53 PM
Ummmmm

Quote
Touhou Rage Thread

?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on February 25, 2012, 01:17:03 AM
ATTN: Perfect Cherry Blossom

The X key is not the "look pretty" button.

Thank you for your attention.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 25, 2012, 08:54:35 AM
Hi Subterranean Animism. That death when grazing Parsee's second non-card was not supposed to happen.  I know how to capture Knock Out in Three Steps, not clip that bullet as it comes to me. I want to know how I died when streaming the bullets right before Orin's second fight in Stage 4. As well as how I clipped that bullet in Satori's second non-card.

Only decent thing was that Terrifying Hypnotism wasn't that bad this time around.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 25, 2012, 09:37:30 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

FUCK YOU IKARUGA FUCK YOU YOU MAKE TOUHOU LOOK ELEMENTARY IN FUCKING COMPARISON AND IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU THAT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TOUCH MUSHIHIME-SAMA FUTARI BECAUSE THE LAST THING I NEED TO DO IS TO HAVE AN ANGER-INDUCED HEART ATTACK ON ULTRA MODE

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10393.0.html. Broski, use this one. And go play Mushihimesama Futari. Its a lot better than Ikaruga.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 25, 2012, 10:04:01 AM
Started trying No Bombs MoF Extra to find out that I can... cap her first survival card... rather consistently. And... die to her second survival card at 1 to 3 seconds left... rather consistently. :U
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on February 25, 2012, 02:05:46 PM
Darn it, did I really have to derp twice on Kanako's first spellcard? Four extra lives upon entering the final fight and that's how I use them?  ::)
 Made it to VoWG on my last life regardless but if I've had those two lives... might've been my third lunatic 1cc.  No deaths or unplanned bombs until Aya, that's something I suppose.

Well, EoSD, now you have a friend with the whole "defeat at last spellcard"-mechanic you already put me through quite a few times. Hope you like each other.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 25, 2012, 02:35:44 PM
Hey, qno2, I'm sure you can make it! You can get to the Last Spell card after all.

For me, it's recently been like a defeat to the first Spell Card of the game. Yeah, IN Ultra, I'd really like to perfect the first stage on a 1CC attempt, and probably to do a perfect off it and some other stages just for the fun, but seeing how it took fifty seven tries from me to capture the FIRST SPELL CARD of the game, I think I'm leaving this for some people who actually know how to play Touhou.

(http://i.imgur.com/8YpOk.png) (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19024)
(click the image for a replay)

If this is the first thing I'm put against, hell no I wanna see what Kaguya would do to me on a 1CC attempt. Just... no. How the hell did you 1CC this, Jaimers?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 25, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
You'd just bomb it, I imagine. Doesn't Ultra kind of effect everything randomly, so not every spell will be as hard as that one?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on February 25, 2012, 02:44:17 PM
gno?  :V Oh you.

Just making it to the last spellcard doesn't mean a whole lot, at least from the standpoint of 'motivation'. I have the same in EoSD lunatic, made it to Scarlet Gensokyo about 8 times, and still haven't finished it (though I generally never practiced at all before those runs so I could've done better I suppose). There are a few things I noticed in this run anyway that I'd like to practice a bit more before trying again.

Quote from: Seppo Hovi
If this is the first thing I'm put against, hell no I wanna see what Kaguya would do to me on a 1CC attempt. Just... no.
Did you think about SFN Ultra no-focus with Youmu? Seems about right if that's the first spellcard of the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 25, 2012, 02:50:32 PM
Looks like the patch was updated or something, cause it wasn't like that in the patch I downloaded.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 25, 2012, 03:04:26 PM
Looks like the patch was updated or something, cause it wasn't like that in the patch I downloaded.
Yeah, I assume you are using the old ultra patch then, since I think I'm using the new one. IIRC people have called the old ultra patches really insane and rather impossible to clear, so... yeah.

You'd just bomb it, I imagine. Doesn't Ultra kind of effect everything randomly, so not every spell will be as hard as that one?
Well, yeah. I went and captured every spell card of the stage 1 (http://i.imgur.com/2iTsb.png), the only things that took more than seven tries were the Last Spell on lunatic (35 tries) and that spell I already mentioned. However, there still is a good ton of seriously insane stuff that keeps killing me, a lot more insane stuff that the first card is.

For example, Marisa has several cards I just plainly plan to bomb away (everything but the last card) and one card (Starlight Typhoon), that certainly just comes to me and says "Problem?", while killing you. It's almost like UFO ultra tier. Almost.

And, uhh, yeah. Some stuff seems to be a lot easier, such as Marisa's final noncard for example. Or maybe some stage portions. And scoring since I can cancel more bullets :V

Sorry about the mistake with your name's spelling qno, I promise it won't happen again. I put some tought into timing out SFN ultra on Youmu solo without focus, and I actually captured SFN ultra on Youmu solo without focus. The capture took about twenty tries, which alone weren't too bad. However, I can say that the run with the capture was pure lucking out. Since I can't do unfocusedly as precice dodges I'd like to do in between the blue and violet butterflies, or I can't place myself as precicely as I'd want to, it's really hard to dodge anything. My original Youmu solo NF timeout of SFN was, well, lucky aswell, but it needed a huge amount less micrododging than the first 30 seconds of ultra alone do need. I also tried the "dodge through walls"-tactique I had made for the original version long ago and practiced it a bit, but it was really a lot more harder, since the holes in the butterfly walls are seriously too small for me to see coming, so it's about luck there aswell.

I don't know, I could try it, but it's currently not doable with my skill level. Maybe in a few years, meanwhile I'll do some other silly stuff with the ultra patch.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on February 25, 2012, 03:25:50 PM
No problem, no problem. It actually happened quite a lot over the years so it's more like a "some things never change, well whatever  :V".

I'm still waiting for the day that you'll actually get sick of SFN but I suppose it will never happen at this point, considering how committed you are.  ;)  Guess that's just like me putting off Kinkaku-Ji Ultra for now. It feels so good to have patterns that, gasp, change: even TD seemed like the best game ever after that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 25, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
God dammit Jonathan why did you hit CTRL instead of Shift? That was the dumbest death you've ever done that registered into a 1cc/scoring run.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on February 25, 2012, 07:44:20 PM
If this is the first thing I'm put against, hell no I wanna see what Kaguya would do to me on a 1CC attempt. Just... no. How the hell did you 1CC this, Jaimers?
It's not the same version as lord Jaimers did 1cc . This is the most recent version . :V
I think you have to bomb it.  :3 ( I don't know which is harder  :wat:)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Chuckolator on February 25, 2012, 09:17:51 PM
Trying LLS Lunatic for the very first time. Get to close to Kurumi when she spawns and she shoots a random bullet at me before the conversation begins. I brush it off, then eventually get a game over on Yuuka I with a few pixels to go. Would have been nice to see stage 6 on my first try, at least. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 25, 2012, 10:24:29 PM
I really hate IN (Solo Youmu) Too many dumb deaths. Ended up losing to Kaguya's third non-card because I didn't see that blue rice bullet
(http://i.imgur.com/QsN6T.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 25, 2012, 10:45:14 PM
I really hate IN (Solo Youmu) Too many dumb deaths. Ended up losing to Kaguya's third non-card because I didn't see that blue rice bullet
(http://i.imgur.com/QsN6T.jpg)

Really? Because Solo Youmu is the easiest character for me to use.

And for the record, I'm playing on Normal as well.

I'm not trying to sound condescending or elitist, I'm just saying here. I think personally that Youmu Solo is the easiest character to use in IN.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

FUCK YOU KANAKO I FUCKING HATE YOU WHY ARE YOU SO STUPIDLY HARD ON LUNATIC FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 25, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
Really? Because Solo Youmu is the easiest character for me to use.

And for the record, I'm playing on Normal as well.

I can normally clear it but it's one of those times where my runs go shitty. IN is my least favorite game :<
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 25, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
I fucking hate my Superior Inferiority Complex. It makes all of my Touhou runs go shitty because I can't stand idiotic levels of failure, nor can I stand the fact that all of my friends, THE PEOPLE WHOM I INTRODUCED THIS GAME SERIES TO, are all better than me. I HATE IT.

Now to get to an actual game,

Dear Embodiment of Scarlet Devil,
You are completely fine.
Sincerely, Esupanitix

Dear Perfect Cherry Blossom,
I love you.
Sincerely, Esupanitix

Dear Imperishable Night,
You're okay. I can accept that you exist.
Sincerely, Esupanitix

Dear Subterranean Animism,
You are irritating, but I can stand you because you have good music.
Sincerely, Esupanitix.

Dear Ten Desires,
You are completely fine but your soundtrack sucks bollocks.
Sincerely, Esupanitix.

Dear Mountain of Faith,
FUCK YOU.
Sincerely, Esupanitix.

Dear Undefined Fantastic Object,
YOU ARE IRRITATING AS SHIT, IRRITATING TO THE POINT THAT EVEN YOUR INCREDIBLY GOOD SOUNDTRACK (Which I loathe simply for trauma reasons) DOES NOT MAKE UP FOR IT. GO DIE IN A GOD DAMN FIRE AND I WOULD BE MAKING THREATS TO ZUN TO DISEMBOWEL HIM AND DOUSE HIM IN WHISKEY AND ALL THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW BUT I WANT TO BE ON THESE FORUMS NEXT WEEK.
Sincerely, Esupanitix.

P.S.
FUCK YOU.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on February 25, 2012, 11:32:40 PM
Dear Undefined Fantastic Object,
FUCK YOU.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 25, 2012, 11:48:43 PM
I fucking hate my Superior Inferiority Complex. It makes all of my Touhou runs go shitty because I can't stand idiotic levels of failure, nor can I stand the fact that all of my friends, THE PEOPLE WHOM I INTRODUCED THIS GAME SERIES TO, are all better than me. I HATE IT.

Who doesn't hate idiotic levels of failure? And has your friends 1cc'd IN Hard? If they have, then use that as your motivation to become better than them. If you aren't the best among your friends, then make sure that you become so.

There is no need to disembowel the good old ZUN because of UFO. I can tolerate giving him a slap across his face for that thing with Sinkable Vortex leaving bullets behind into the next non-spell though.  :V


Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on February 26, 2012, 12:40:48 AM
Dear Undefined Fantastic Object,
YOU ARE IRRITATING AS SHIT, IRRITATING TO THE POINT THAT EVEN YOUR INCREDIBLY GOOD SOUNDTRACK (Which I loathe simply for trauma reasons) DOES NOT MAKE UP FOR IT. GO DIE IN A GOD DAMN FIRE AND I WOULD BE MAKING THREATS TO ZUN TO DISEMBOWEL HIM AND DOUSE HIM IN WHISKEY AND ALL THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW BUT I WANT TO BE ON THESE FORUMS NEXT WEEK.
Sincerely, Esupanitix.

P.S.
FUCK YOU.
Completely agreed. Started my first real UFO 1CC attempt after giving up on Mamizou and Shou takes all my lives, eats them, then shits them out as more lasers to throw.
;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 12:51:57 AM
Sinkable Vortex

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE

Who doesn't hate idiotic levels of failure? And has your friends 1cc'd IN Hard? If they have, then use that as your motivation to become better than them. If you aren't the best among your friends, then make sure that you become so.

There is no need to disembowel the good old ZUN because of UFO. I can tolerate giving him a slap across his face for that thing with Sinkable Vortex leaving bullets behind into the next non-spell though.  :V

No, they haven't, but I consider you an acquaintance and as long as you exist I'm going to try to get as good as you even if it means one of my Algebra tests will fall below a 100%.

If you haven't noticed by now, I'm criminally insane.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zodiac on February 26, 2012, 01:49:50 AM
Just try to 1cc UFO lunatic and gameover at stage 6 again . . . (Byakuren's 1st spell)
because 4 deaths with bombs in stock at stage 5 . . . .
THIS TOOK ME ALMOST 2 MONTHS NOW !! ;____;
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 03:13:09 AM
Just try to 1cc UFO lunatic and gameover at stage 6 again

STOP CALLING YOURSELF A NOVICE, YOU'RE BETTER THAN SOMEONE WHO'S PLAYED FOR TWO YEARS.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 03:15:17 AM
am i a novice for restarting mof lunatic stage 1 30 times


i will never beat aya ;_;

 LAST TIME >>>>

Me: OH SHIT 149,999,000 POINTS LET'S JUST SHOOT AT AYA FOR 0.05 SECONDS
Aya: *macro circles nonspell*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 03:18:12 AM
am i a novice for restarting mof lunatic stage 1 30 times

LEARN
TO FUCKING
BOMB.

PLEASE. IT WILL HELP YOU SO MUCH IN THE LONG RUN.

Now being serious, yes. If you're doing it to unlock stages, just use the Replay Glitch. When you watch a stage on replay, you unlock that character/stage combination.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on February 26, 2012, 03:27:01 AM
So does learning how to perfect the stage (well, maybe except for Minoriko's final). While I don't have a good gauge of Chisou's skill level, saving as many resources as possible in the early portions of any game seems like a pretty basic approach to clearing a mode, and is definitely something worth striving for.

EDIT: Dammit, ninja'd by Esu's edit. Now I just feel weird saying all this. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 03:32:24 AM
EDIT: Dammit, ninja'd by Esu's edit. Now I just feel weird saying all this. :V

 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on February 26, 2012, 03:35:09 AM
Quote
am i a novice for restarting mof lunatic stage 1 30 times

no

A lot of my restarts in IN Extra are from dying on the first wave of fairies...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 03:43:57 AM
Flowchart of Taizen's MoF Runs

(Q) Question (Yes/No)

1: Did you die on the first wave? (2/3)
2: RESTART
3: Did you fail to reach Shizuha with 2.85 power? (2/4)
4: Did you capture Falling Leaves of Madness? (5/8)
5: Did you perfect the remaining portion of the stage? (6/8)
6: Did you perfect Minoriko's entire first life? (7/8)
7: Did you capture Minoriko's final? (Yeah right / 8)
8: RESTART
9: Did you seriously perfect Stage 1? (10/8)
10: Good, that means you'll die to the Spinbitch Section. Go to 2.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on February 26, 2012, 04:10:07 AM
I'd recommend just going for it, even if you don't perfect (even if you die, in fact.) It's more efficient if you get practice for more stuff. Restarting is really tempting but unless you're going for The Run you shouldn't do it. Especially if you're worried about S2 deaths as well.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on February 26, 2012, 04:27:50 AM
I'd recommend just going for it, even if you don't perfect (even if you die, in fact.) It's more efficient if you get practice for more stuff. Restarting is really tempting but unless you're going for The Run you shouldn't do it. Especially if you're worried about S2 deaths as well.

Plus, if you haven't unlocked the other stages in Stage Practice yet, go as far as you can through the game, no matter how many continues you need. That way, you can practice the later stages without having to worry about what's coming next.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 04:33:22 AM
The last creditfeeding spree I had in PCB ended at 02s in Resurrection Butterfly 80%.

I was pissed.

I'm too into scoring points to use continues though :ohdear:
My highscore in PCB Lunatic is 148m, which was probably before the Prismriver Sisters or so.
I hate how you can't save your score AND continue like in TD :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 05:26:21 AM
How I play Touhou, flowchart edition.

0) Start game.

STAGE 1.

1) Did you select the right character? (Yes/no)
Yes -> Go to 2).
No -> Go to 0).

2) Did you die/bomb? [Doesn't count for UFO Stage 1 if above Normal Difficulty] (Yes/No)
Yes -> Go to 0)
No -> Go to 3)

3) If playing IN, did you meet the Time Point quota? (Yes/No/I raped it/I'm not playing IN)
Yes -> Go to 4)
No -> Go to 0)
I raped it -> Good for you, go to 4) you little nerd.
I'm not playing IN -> Go to 4)

STAGE 2.

4) How good are you doing so far? Are you able to show off? (Good, I can go a little crazy/Am I going to game over?/HELL YEAH LET'S STOP FOCUSING)
Good, I can go a little crazy -> Stop taking natural safety precautions
Am I going to game over? -> Keep an eye on your hitbox and have your index finger ready.
HELL YEAH LET'S STOP FOCUSING -> Calm down, you're not    HS参謀.
Either way, go to 5).

5) How are you doing against the stage? Messing up yet? (A little/Where the hell did my lives go?/No/I'M PLAYING UFO ON HARD, TAKE A GUESS WHAT'S HAPPENING)
A little -> Just move on
Where the hell did my lives go? -> Go to 0).
No -> Good, more resources for later.
I'M PLAYING UFO ON HARD, TAKE A GUESS WHAT'S HAPPENING -> Dying? Anyway, just go on. You can't play UFO for shit on Hard, anyway.
Unless directed otherwise, go to 6).

6) Beat the Stage 2 boss, and how many resources do you have left? (As many as I can have/I lost a [Life/Bomb]/I don't have anything.)
As many as I can have -> The flowchart is now null.
I lost a [Life/Bomb] -> If the game is hard, the flowchart is now null. If not, go to 0)
I don't have anything -> EEEEHHHHH? EASY MODE?! HOW LAME!! (Go to 0).)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on February 26, 2012, 06:01:12 AM
UFO's my favorite Touhou game.  :derp:

I hate the part with the books in EoSD Extra, either when I'm trying to dodge them or bomb them for points. If I'm not using Master Spark, I'm going to miss all but like 3 of the books when I bomb, and I can't do the very last wave consistently if I try dodging it.

Oh yeah, and Silent Selene/Royal Flare supergrazing? Fuck you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 26, 2012, 09:09:38 AM
No, they haven't, but I consider you an acquaintance and as long as you exist I'm going to try to get as good as you even if it means one of my Algebra tests will fall below a 100%.

Yeah but come on, that's not exactly the same thing is it? Its not like you introduced me to the series or something. You signed up here in June 2011. That's around the time I finally got motivated to 1cc UFO Lunatic. But by all means keep at it. You'll become good sooner or later, don't worry. In the meantime, please keep writing off your frustrations in this thread. They tend to be quite hilarious.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on February 26, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
Yuugi keeps handing me extra lasers when I'm trying to graze the second non-spell. Seriously, not just one slightly annoying laser, but multiple, completely blocking the path to the next safespot. And it keeps happening.

edit

IT KEEPS HAPPENING!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 03:49:40 PM
HEY

HEY KOGASA

KOGASA

KOGASA HEY

HEY KOGASA

FUCK YOU.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on February 26, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
Hey all, it's been a while. (level design projects are killing me). here goes:

I don't know if I raged more or cried more.

Was Playing IN going for my first Lunatic 1cc.

*gets to Kaguya with 3 lives left*

Me: Ok. I can possibly do this (note I have never seen any of Kaguya's Lunatic cards except Brilliant Dragon Bullet before this.)

*a wild Kaguya appears*

*Wild Kaguya used Hourai Jewel. It's Super Effective*

me: "well f**k...."
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 03:58:37 PM
> Perfect Lunatic Stage 1 (complete with 20m before Minoriko)
> About to hit Spinbitch Section
> AUTOMATIC UPDATES


WHY MUST THIS HAPPEN ON EVERY COMPUTER THAT ISN'T MINE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Paper Conan on February 26, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
Hisoutensoku. Cirno Story Mode. Lunatic.

Why don't we all just rename the last stage to Alice rape-time? :derp:
Her spellcards are nightmare-fueling...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 04:05:59 PM
HEY MINORIKO
HEY
HEEEEEEY
MIIIIIINOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

I hate MoF for the same reason I hate UFO; It gets so much harder between Normal and Hard than it does between Easy and Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 26, 2012, 04:16:02 PM
*Wild Kaguya used Hourai Jewel. It's Super Effective*

me: "well f**k...."
Yup. Unless you're a cheater and practice that before you've 1cced, you'll probably have to bombspam it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 04:28:51 PM
AHAIHASIOHAQIIAHGSDEHGESWHGEHGOIERHGIOEHGERHGOISWEHGBPIFRHIHGIOPHWSRIOGHWSGSWOHSOIHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHIOAHAIOHAOHZ

OH HINA THAT'S SO FUCKING FUNNY

SAME WITH YOU, NITORI, YOUR JOKES ARE THE FUCKING BEST, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT KILL ME ON DILUVIAL MARE BECAUSE I FUCKING CLIPPED ONE OF YOUR AIMED BULLETS AND DON'T EVEN GET ME FUCKING STARTED ON EXTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENDIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I COULD SPEND ALL FUCKING DAY ON THAT FUCKING PILE OF SHIT
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
oyyyyyy

Stage 1: no deaths
Stage 2: no deaths
Stage 3: no deaths
Nitori: three deaths
Stage 4: one death
Aya: two deaths



oh yeah also lunatic mode

someone watch this replay and tell me i can't do this
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19060
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on February 26, 2012, 04:48:00 PM
oh yeah also lunatic mode

someone watch this replay and tell me i can't do this
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19060

Sorry, you can totally do this. Practice some routes for the other stages too. Learn Nitori's first spell card and don't mess up her non-spells (or bomb them right away). Should be enough to get you to Kanako at least.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 05:00:48 PM
Trauma in the Glittering Depths? I know how to do it, it's just the execution that I fail at -_-'

If it's worth mentioning, spell card histories:
Stage 1, 24/35, 4/17, 4/13
Stage 2, 1/9, 4/6, 1/6, 0/6
Stage 3, 0/6, 0/4, 0/3, 0/3
Stage 4, 0/2, 0/1, 0/1, 0/1

That was my first time getting that far :V

I might as well use Stage Practice for once or something
you tend to forget it exists :]
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on February 26, 2012, 05:06:50 PM
I might as well use Stage Practice for once or something
you tend to forget it exists :]

Ha! Yes, it does happen, but it's really helpful.

I also recommend saving replays of your failures. Watch them, and you might see something you didn't see before, in terms of where you went wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ふねん1 on February 26, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
So I manage to perfect TD Stage 6 Lunatic past Miko's sixth card for the first time ever.

Then I die on her final, before I even reach the last phase.

What the fuck is wrong with me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 05:11:09 PM
Ha! Yes, it does happen, but it's really helpful.

I also recommend saving replays of your failures. Watch them, and you might see something you didn't see before, in terms of where you went wrong.

>going backwards into bullets that are leaving the screen

In semi-related news, 1d Stage 3 MoF Lunatic.
The death was on a nonspell, of course :I

AND I ALSO CAPTURED TRAUMA IN THE GLIMMERING DEPTHS

too bad it was stage practice
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 26, 2012, 05:12:29 PM
Failed a no death run of TD normal ultra. Well that wasnt gonna happen cause i played carelessly and wasted a lot of precious bombs wich i really needed on some of Miko's patterns that became bullshit. But overall it went good with only 1 death on  "Royal Clan's Chaotic Dance". Maybe i should improve it with Marisa sometime, but as for now i'm gonna upload a video of "How Ten Desires normal should been made" with annotations along the way.

In semi-related news, 1d Stage 3 MoF Lunatic.
The death was on a nonspell, of course :I
AND I ALSO CAPTURED TRAUMA IN THE GLIMMERING DEPTHS
Congratz, dude! You're doing really good. I never touched MoF lunatic seriously, but agree with those sayin' it can be easily done if you dont fear to bomb ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 05:27:18 PM
>going backwards into bullets that are leaving the screen

In semi-related news, 1d Stage 3 MoF Lunatic.
The death was on a nonspell, of course :I

AND I ALSO CAPTURED TRAUMA IN THE GLIMMERING DEPTHS

too bad it was stage practice

HOLY SHIT CALM DOWN
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 26, 2012, 05:41:59 PM
HOLY SHIT CALM DOWN


no

i will not calm down
do you realize how badly i do on that card god damn
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 26, 2012, 05:43:42 PM
someone watch this replay and tell me i can't do this
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19060
You can totally do this. Many of the places where you died or bombed could've been easily avoided if you'd had the right approach, so yeah. Also I think replay desynched so I couldn't see what you did in stage 4, unless you actually just killed yourself two seconds in like that.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on February 26, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
HOLY SHIT CALM DOWN

Oh the (http://i39.tinypic.com/33ohdnc.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 06:35:58 PM
Oh the (http://i39.tinypic.com/33ohdnc.jpg)

Lol'd
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

WHY

I WAS TWO SECONDS FROM TIMING OUT WORLDLY ATTACHMENT ON LUNATIC (Although unintentionally, that's a really good achievement)

FUCK YOU YOUMU FUCK YOU I FUCKING HATE YOU

Funny thing is, I'm best at dodging dense/fast patterns on PCB than any other game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on February 27, 2012, 12:20:30 AM
Yup. Unless you're a cheater and practice that before you've 1cced, you'll probably have to bombspam it.

Well I had a.....less than desirable situation heading into Lunatic Hourai Jewel. No live and no bombs..... =)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Makai Butterfly on February 27, 2012, 10:36:03 AM
Really, Mokou?  REALLY?  Three deaths on your first (and easiest) Phoenix spell?

I guess that's what I get for finally acing the spin-around-the-death-fairy graze farming capture.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 27, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
Pffff~ Playing MoF normal on 90 fps is exhausting.  :getdown: The best i've got is Kanako's last nonspell. Oh and i totally cant keep my faith in this insanity, so i faced Kanako while still havent got last extend orz. I've got to Mountain of Faith with all extends achieved, but no lives left and died to very first bullets lol.
Though i've got much better at stage 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjboNc3O0MQ) after some practice.

Oh, and Zil was right. After going back to 60 fps everything seems so slow, i feel like cheating :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 27, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
I got 10 characters that explain my rage.
UFO MarisaB


Yeah.  worst shot type+worst Touhou game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 27, 2012, 06:27:07 PM
What could be more fitting than gave over'ing in my first MoF Normal 90fps 1cc attempt on Kanako's mighty CLIP PORRIDGE spell?

Flippin' clip porridge.

MMX inspired me to do this if it wasn't blatantly obvious.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 27, 2012, 06:35:36 PM
Hehe, I've been playing MoF Lunatic at 90fps. Best I got was midway through Sanae. >=(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 27, 2012, 06:36:19 PM
I recently tried 90FPS PCB Extra.

Got to Kokurri-san :I
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 27, 2012, 06:43:26 PM
What could be more fitting than gave over'ing in my first MoF Normal 90fps 1cc attempt on Kanako's mighty CLIP PORRIDGE spell?

Flippin' clip porridge.

MMX inspired me to do this if it wasn't blatantly obvious.
But that was fun, wasn't it? :) Oh man. Kanako on 90 fps is a bitch even on normal. I bombspam almost every of her attacks, but it doesnt help much. And her last spell on 90 fps is Naut label :V Also, playing as Reimu A doesnt help much surviving bosses.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 27, 2012, 06:47:39 PM
First spell is easy even at 2000fps. okay slight exaggeration
I THINK you can successfully stream her second non-spell. I think.
I imagine her last non-spell is streamable as well... it IS a streamable non-spell.
I've yet to see Mountain of Faith so I don't know how hard it is. :V

Of course it's fun. ::)

Oh, more notes about that run. Everything was done "blind" as far as 90fps is considered.
Perfect Stage 1.
Perfect Stage 2.
1D2B Nitori, perfect stage 3. Bomb #1 was on the second spell (got trapped in the second wave), bomb #2 was on extending aaarrrrmmmmmm, death was when I got my hitbox back after the bomb and did not notice I was sitting on a laser. :V
STUFF Stage 4. iirc I had a dumb death during the first wall pattern, a bomb during the second wall pattern, two bombs during Momiji, a bomb on each of Aya's spell but her last (I was actually going to capture her second, it was more a panic bomb than anything else, and I got Illusionary Dominance down to T-3 seconds), in which I ran into a small circular bullet + was hit when regaining my hitbox because I thought I'd finish the card before that happened... 2D. Bleh.
A bunch of deaths on Stage 5. I don't even remember.
Stage 6 was full of bombs cause I had 0 lives. Bombed first non-spell once, second non-spell once, died on second spell. GG.

Could have potentially 1cc'd on my first attempt (MAYBE) had I not lost those lives to Nitori / Aya (the stupid deaths) and Stage 5 in general was bleh.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 27, 2012, 07:05:42 PM
"Mountain of Faith" at 90fps is comparable to VoWG at 60. It's not quite the same pattern, but I'd put it on almost the same difficulty level. Unless you're really confident I'd say make sure you've got some resources for it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 27, 2012, 07:06:00 PM
heheh, all this 90 FPS Mountain of Faith stuff has inspired me to go capture it at 90 FPS.
So I did.  In 1 try.
Why the rage?  because I double-KOed her 4th spell.

(Also I 1cced MoF normal 90 FPS for the 3rd time about an hour ago, fun times, ended 0/4 but died twice to Mountain of Faith because I figured I could capture it and then finish it without dying again)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 27, 2012, 07:28:41 PM
I tried Mountain of Faith via spell practice and can attest that it is NOT as bad as VoWG. Yeah, you need to read the waves fast, but they don't overlap so it's not nearly as bad.

Almost captured her first nonspell and second-last spell during this practice run. And the second non-spell IS streamable... maybe. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 27, 2012, 07:37:16 PM
Oh, you guys make me sad :( This (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19086) is currently my best attempt on 90 fps stage 6 in practice. I dunno what to do on last spell except hug the bottom and bomb, cause not only the walls move faster but Reimu is harder to control. Unfocused dodging is scary :ohdear: So i have to come to Kanako with at least 5 lives to have a chance to 1CC it, or just practice it until my reaction will fit the pace. Also i hate how Kanako's last nonspell comes out on 90 fps, actually 2nd and 3rd phases wich i prefer to bomb.

Also besides fun, playing on 90 fps is a matter of endurance and nonstop concentration wich i'm pretty bad at. I can go through 4 stages without deaths and then start my fail routine on stage 5 due to high tension fatigue.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 27, 2012, 08:01:16 PM
You.. you're bad at endurance when the game is shorter overall? :S

Practice. My deaths on Mountain of Faith for the limited one try I had so far were from running into nearby amulets rather than being trapped by walls. With two of those deaths, it was a simple 2D (and 1 bomb? maybe? i don't remember). Practice will definitely help fix that clumsy movement problem, I'd say.

Second part of that non-spell is tapping the left/right button slightly faster than in Normal/Hard/whatever.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on February 27, 2012, 09:08:24 PM
You.. you're bad at endurance when the game is shorter overall? :S

Practice. My deaths on Mountain of Faith for the limited one try I had so far were from running into nearby amulets rather than being trapped by walls. With two of those deaths, it was a simple 2D (and 1 bomb? maybe? i don't remember). Practice will definitely help fix that clumsy movement problem, I'd say.

Second part of that non-spell is tapping the left/right button slightly faster than in Normal/Hard/whatever.
The game is shorter, but it gives me almost no time to relax unlike original normal. Practiced it more, but still cant get through 90 fps Mountain of Faith with less than 3 deaths (and lots of bombs). It's not the problem with lunatic bullet speeds, but with Reimu going too fast. I just cant release a focus button, and when i do - i immediately ram into some amulet. Also i cant get used to reduced afterdeath(bomb) invulnerability time so sometimes i die right after recollecting the power by being late to get back into the rhythm.

As for "tapping" faster - it again makes Reimu go straight into the knife, so just two bombs and fuck it! >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 27, 2012, 09:23:40 PM
You can tell the invisiblity phase is about over after, like, slightly less than two VoWG "waves". That's how I do it regularly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 12:07:15 AM
I tried Mountain of Faith via spell practice
Wait what how?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 28, 2012, 12:23:56 AM
Wait what how?

I think he means stage practice :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on February 28, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
Ugh, Meiling, why must you kill me twice or three times in all my Lunatic attempts?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 28, 2012, 12:28:52 AM
Ugh, Meiling, why must you kill me twice or three times in all my Lunatic attempts?

Wait till you get to Patchy :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 28, 2012, 12:31:01 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAS OH GOD I'M SO VERY GOOD AT THESE GAMES THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN LOSING RELENTLESSLY FOR THE PAST TWO FUCKING YEARS THAT'S SO FUNNY ZUN BEST JOKE EVER I FUCKING LOVE YOU MAN YOU MAKE THE BEST GAMES EVER THAT TOTALLY DON'T PISS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OFF AND MAKE THEM SLAP THEMSELVES AND NEARLY STAB THEMSELVES IN THE CHEEK WITH A SWITCHBLADE KNIFE OUT OF FRUSTRATION (NO I'M NOT TAKING A FUCKING BREAK NOT UNTIL I CAN GET A GOOD LUNATIC AVERAGE ON EVERY GAME IN THE SERIES FROM SIX TO THIRTEEN) AND PUNCH THEMSELVES IN THE KNEES AND NEARLY PUNCH THEIR GOD DAMN CAT (CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNN) AND YELL AT THEIR PETS AND YELL AT THEIR BEST FRIEND INEXPLICABLY BECAUSE PUNCHING A GOD DAMN PILLOW DOESN'T FUCKING WORK FOR ME (SERIOUSLY IT FUCKING DOESN'T I'VE TRIED THOUSANDS OF TIMES AND MY HAND STILL LOOKS LIKE A CARTOGRAPH MAP TO PROVE MY POINT)

FUCK YOU HOURAI ELIXIR
FUCK YOU 90FPS PCB EXTRA
FUCK YOU EIRIN
FUCK YOU KAGUYA
FUCK YOU RAN
FUCK YOU CHEN (ESPECIALLY YOU YOU STUPID FUCKING CAT)

FUCK EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CHARACTER IN THE SERIES THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE YAKUMO FAMILY, THE FUCKING MOON (Yes that means that I still love Tewi like she's my daughter, she's an earth rabbit), HAS A ノ (No; "of") BETWEEN THEIR SURNAME AND FIRST NAME,

AND ESPECIALLY

FUCK
YOU
UFO

Reisen, you're okay. I don't hate YOU.
Shou, go fuck yourself.
Chen, do what Shou does.
Orin, do what Chen and Shou do.
Eirin, drink your god damn elixir and see just how miserable you make me.
Kaguya, YOU try to fulfil your five fucking requests.
Marisa, nobody cares about your fucking lasers that you stole from a certain Sunflower Youkai that I happen to love like nobody's business.
Reimu, stop stealing your fucking fight mechanics from Yukari and do something fucking original.
Murasa, I don't like your boss fight but your awesome music is enough to make me palate you slightly. Go fuck yourself with your own fucking anchors and you'll see how I feel.
Ran, why do you even fucking exist? Is it just so that fans don't bitch at ZUN because "AHHHH PCB'S TOO FUCKING SHORT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"?
Chen, SERIOUSLY. GO FUCK YOURSELF. I HATE YOU MORE THAN THE OTHER TWO CATS BECAUSE AT LEAST THEY AREN'T AT THE START OF A FUCKING EXTRA STAGE WHERE I HAVE TO SEE YOUR GOD DAMN OPENER TWELVE FUCKING TIMES IN A ROW BEFORE GETTING THE COMMON SENSE TO BOMB IT AND THEN I HAVE TO SEE YOUR FUCKING RED ONI BLUE ONI BULLSHIT I FUCKING HATE YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF I HATE YOU I HOPE YOU DIE IN A FIRE sorry sorry
Yukari, you're awesome. I don't mind your onslaught of bullet hell because your music makes up for it. Go fuck yourself.
Mokou, I hate aristocrats and that's enough to make me hate you, your god damn pyromania doesn't fucking help your cause.
Futo, I FUCKING HATE ARISTOCRATS. GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN FUCKING DISHES AND YOUR BOAT FIRE TOO
Futatsuiwa, go fuck yourself. I fucking hate how you barely give us more than four lives before your easy fucking fight with no forgiveness for fuckups.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I apologize if this wall of text has offended you with its oversaturated use of the word "fuck" in all capital letters. I hope that at the very least that my anger made you laugh. Now that my anger is all done, time to get jiggy with my homework
AFTER A FEW MORE HOURS OF TOUHOU
:V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on February 28, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
Wait till you get to Patchy :V

Heh, I have. For some reason her second nonspell keeps getting me even though I know how to do it. And her cards are just horrible. The last one (Reimu A) is the only one I can capture if I don't panic.

Sakuya, on the other hand, is just hell through and through. A typical run includes 2 bombs (or a death and 1 bomb) on her first nonspell, usually a capture of her first card (although she keeps walling me with the bubbles) 1-2 bombs or a death on her second nonspell, 1 bomb or death on The World, capture of her second nonspell and 1 bomb/death to Killing Doll.

Remilia is less of a pain than Sakuya to me :/
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 28, 2012, 01:00:43 AM
You've... you've gotten to Remilia on Lunatic? :ohdear:

Taizen Chisou
World's Slowest Advancing Touhou Player

2009: Easy was a challenge
2010: First 1CC
2011: First Extra clears
2012: Can almost beat Hard Mode

This is, this is like meta-rage right here
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 28, 2012, 01:26:53 AM
Taizen Chisou
World's Slowest Advancing Touhou Player

Wrong!
2009: Rumia on Easy was a bitch.
2010: "Who's Patchouli?"
2011: First and only Easy 1cc
2012: All games 1cc'd on Normal
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on February 28, 2012, 01:27:09 AM
You've... you've gotten to Remilia on Lunatic? :ohdear:
Presumably via continues.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on February 28, 2012, 01:44:53 AM
Failed grazing Xu Fu's Dimension. Raged a bit and went on MoF Lunatic.

*pi-chun on the first bullet*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 28, 2012, 09:32:05 AM
Wrong!
2009: Rumia on Easy was a bitch.
2010: "Who's Patchouli?"
2011: First and only Easy 1cc
2012: All games 1cc'd on Normal

Are you really that old? Almost as old as me then.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 28, 2012, 10:36:26 AM
Yeah, I meant stage practice, heh. @ last page

I got to Remilia on Lunatic pretty quickly. Took no more than 4-5 tries iirc. Speaking of which, I might want to get that Lunatic 1cc soon. ::)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 28, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
Are you really that old? Almost as old as me then.  :V

Yep, and I never really played seriously until the summer solstice of 2011 because that's when I could run any of the (Currently 12 plus three) games at a steady 60 FPS with a brand new computer (Early birthday presents are fun.). It was also the day that I officially changed my internet-wide nickname from WeegeevsWeegee (Memes memes) and MoisChanvsTamama (If you've watched Keroro Gunsou, you know what I'm talking about) to Esupanitix, and I'm damn proud I did.

I've been playing since 2009 and to tell the truth I can tell you my first reaction when I got midboss kicked (Which was my first time playing Touhou for that matter); GOD DAMMIT RUMIA I'M GOING TO TEAR YOUR LEGS OFF AND STICK THEM IN A BUCKET OF GRAVY SO THAT I CAN PUNCH YOU WITH THEM. Yeah, I have a slight bit of autism, so I can never get my point across when I speak, even though I can speak quickly and clearly.

Back to the rage thread, fuck you UFO and have a good day.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Skyler on February 28, 2012, 05:15:29 PM
Presumably via continues.

I've gotten to her with no continues. Only once, though. EoSD Lunatic intimidates me which is why I haven't had many attempts at the 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on February 28, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1f1zW.png)

Yuugi is such a troll with those extra lasers.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on February 28, 2012, 07:44:01 PM
What do you mean with extra lasers?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 28, 2012, 07:46:39 PM
Those nonspells are theoretically static. I'm not entirely sure that's true though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on February 28, 2012, 08:15:54 PM
Those nonspells are theoretically static. I'm not entirely sure that's true though.

My theory is that when you don't shoot down the familiars, which usually is the case when grazing this attack, you reach the max bullet limit and fewer blue lasers spawn. However, when Yuugi moves too far to either side, lots of red lasers are not even spawned because they are off screen, and thus more blue lasers can spawn instead, which can be really problematic if they are blocking the path to the next safespot.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 28, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
FUCK YOU EIRIN FUCK YOU KAGUYA I like you Reisen FUCK YOU TEWI FUCK YOU MARISA FUCK YOU REIMU FUCK YOU KEINE FUCK YOU MYSTIA FUCK YOU WRIGGLE FUCK YOU MOKOU

I HATE ALL OF YOU
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on February 28, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
FUCK YOU EIRIN FUCK YOU KAGUYA I like you Reisen FUCK YOU TEWI FUCK YOU MARISA FUCK YOU REIMU FUCK YOU KEINE FUCK YOU MYSTIA FUCK YOU WRIGGLE FUCK YOU MOKOU

I HATE ALL OF YOU

....bad run?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on February 28, 2012, 08:41:39 PM
Obviously a bad run featuring all main bosses and the extra boss. :V

And also bosses from two mirror stages.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on February 28, 2012, 08:47:13 PM
I dunno, I've been tripped up by both Eirin and Kaguya before :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on February 28, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
I dunno, I've been tripped up by both Eirin and Kaguya before :D

*looks at Apollo 13 and Hourai Jewel on Lunatic*

Although Marisa and Youmu make Astronomical Entombing a joke, even on lunatic. =)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Makai Butterfly on February 28, 2012, 09:41:49 PM
WHY MOKOU WHY!?  Was it really necessary to just barely nick me with a stray bullet on Hollow Giant "Woo" and ruin a perfect stage run?  Do you enjoy watching my score drop as I miss the deathbomb by what must be a fraction of a fraction of a second?  Are you happy that I missed my high score by less than 4 million points?  And to top it all off, I just had to hit the first set of semi-stationary bullets on Imperishable Shooting. AGAIN!?

 :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 28, 2012, 09:47:10 PM
KOGASA I FUCKING HATE YOU YOU ASSHOLE FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK I HATE YOU I HATE YOU YOU STUPID UMBRELLA YOUKAI GO THE FUCK AWAY I DON'T LIKE YOU NOBODY LIKES YOU AND ANYBODY THAT DOES LIKE YOU ONLY LIKES YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE PSYCHOTIC MASOCHISTS THAT AREN'T ME
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 28, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

FUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMU

I FUCKING HATE YOU EVEN AT 60 FPS LET ALONE 90 FUCKING FRAMES A SECOND

IT'S CHARACTERS LIKE YOU THAT MAKE ME ABUSE MY FACE WITH MY PALMS AND FISTS I FUCKING HATE YOU GO DIE OH WAIT YOU'RE ALREADY DEAD BUT YOU'RE ALSO ALIVE PICK A FUCKING SIDE YOU DICK

I DIED FIVE FUCKING TIMES TO HER FIRST NONSPELL

FIVE FUCKING TIMES

FIVE TIMES.


Esupanitix
Failing like a boss at shooting games since 2009
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on February 28, 2012, 10:39:38 PM
Misdirect it next time, and bomb the next wave if you have to. Also, chill. You can't stop yourself from feeling angry initially but feeding into it by making angry posts and going berserk on yourself doesn't help anything. If you're getting this mad, just stop playing and come back later.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 28, 2012, 10:41:40 PM
Misdirect it next time, and bomb the next wave if you have to. Also, chill. You can't stop yourself from feeling angry initially but feeding into it by making angry posts and going berserk on yourself doesn't help anything. If you're getting this mad, just stop playing and come back later.

I'd love to, but there's little more in the world that I enjoy playing that doesn't piss me off at the roots that also quells my masochism. In fact, part of the reason I started playing this was because I was getting bored to the point of nearly breaking the skin on my arm just to entertain my masochism for a while. I really have nothing more than this that's actually fun to play, I'm sorry. As fun as this is, it pisses me off, but I have no other sources.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vibri on February 28, 2012, 11:02:37 PM
If you're masochistic, getting destroyed all the time should be something to celebrate. Throwing a tantrum, whether in real life or online, accomplishes nothing. If you're mad, just drop it. Failures happen 100% of the time when you play these kinds of games. It shouldn't still be a surprise at this point, and you should also already know it doesn't matter.
Also if you're injuring yourself before, during, and after each play session you should take some time for self reflection and figure out what's making you do it. It's probably not whatever problem you've chosen to identify yourself with.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 29, 2012, 12:19:58 AM
If you're masochistic, getting destroyed all the time should be something to celebrate. Throwing a tantrum, whether in real life or online, accomplishes nothing. If you're mad, just drop it. Failures happen 100% of the time when you play these kinds of games. It shouldn't still be a surprise at this point, and you should also already know it doesn't matter.
Also if you're injuring yourself before, during, and after each play session you should take some time for self reflection and figure out what's making you do it. It's probably not whatever problem you've chosen to identify yourself with.

Thank you. I looked into it, apparently it's got something to do with
school. Not trying to sound mopey, but point is I'm made fun of for my musical taste. I hate everything that's produced nowadays by mainstream artists (To be frank, they suck), so I have the Lil Wayne fanboys, Eminem fans, Rebecca Black fans, and Justin Bieber fangirls making fun of and pushing me around at every turn. My musical tastes are songs without lyrics because "A picture tells a thousand words", or demonstration is a better interpretation of meaning than speaking. Also, I just think it sounds thousands of times better than "I woke up this morning dick rock hard" (Which by the way is an actual line from one of Lil Wayne's songs. Another reason why I hate him in particular: He just writes while he's drunk and "sings" it).

Only scroll over the above if you want to hear massive BAWWWWWWW and bitching about most of today's music.

To keep the flow of the thread, I hope Nazrin dies a painful death.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on February 29, 2012, 12:54:27 AM
FUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMUFUCKYOUYOUMU

I know this is the Rage Thread and all, but Vibri isn't the first person to suggest you oughta consider some kind of deep-breathing exercises or something. The barrage of fuck-yous, the capslock, the double posting, the big ol' font sizes - can you please scale this back? There's rage, and then there's cartoonish steam blowing out of your ears and your eyes popping out explosive verbal blasts.

I know staff have talked to you before about this, a couple times now. Next time you get that angry, sincerely - lay down, breathe in through your nose and out for your mouth for like 5 minutes. I'm not saying "don't have fun" or "don't be angry in the Rage thread". I just think you could take this down a few notches.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 29, 2012, 01:05:32 AM
Alright alright, cooling it. I might exaggerate my anger A LITTLE so that it's entertaining, but I'm getting your point now. I can see how it would get annoying.

There's rage, and then there's cartoonish steam blowing out of your ears and your eyes popping out explosive verbal blasts.

This made me fall out of my chair laughing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on February 29, 2012, 01:49:23 AM
Dear Youmu,

Why do you do this to me? I'm not even playing Perfect Cherry Blossom and yet you still want to kill every life I have, as long as you're involved in the game as a boss character.

Why do you do this to me? I just want to 1cc Concealed the Conclusion on Normal.

Edit: Sorry, forgot that I posted last!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on February 29, 2012, 04:00:29 AM
DAMNIT REISEN

Why are you like 50,000 planned bombs at 90FPS

even freaking Youmu wasn't this bad

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on February 29, 2012, 07:20:55 AM
Four lives in a row to Shikieiki! Four lives in a row!

EDIT: It happened again!

A third time!!! And only 5mil away from the 90mil extend.

AND NOW FIVE LIVES IN A ROW!
Last life I went almost a minute without getting hit, then game over in less than three seconds. Of course the glitch denied me the bonus spell charge and left me defenseless with 1 hp left. Fuck this game. I already kicked it's ass with Medicine anyway. Fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 29, 2012, 03:34:18 PM
<@SeppoHovi> Oh dear
<@SeppoHovi> My PCB Ultra replays desynched for some reason
<@SeppoHovi> So I had to record a live run of Phantasm.
<@SeppoHovi> It was horrible, I was jumpy and all.
<@SeppoHovi> I was feeling very calm, maybe even tired, before I started this. Now I'm totally on my nerves, really jumpy.
<@SeppoHovi> Didn't really improve my playing. :V


Why.. Why must I be so tense when knowing someone is/will be watching whatever I do. I suck a lot at school, I suck really much when I stream, I suck when I'm trying to teach someone to play, but to top all this off, I even suck when I'm ALONE in my room, recording a live run. Sheesh, me, grow some balls.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on February 29, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
<@SeppoHovi> Oh dear
<@SeppoHovi> My PCB Ultra replays desynched for some reason
<@SeppoHovi> So I had to record a live run of Phantasm.
<@SeppoHovi> It was horrible, I was jumpy and all.
<@SeppoHovi> I was feeling very calm, maybe even tired, before I started this. Now I'm totally on my nerves, really jumpy.
<@SeppoHovi> Didn't really improve my playing. :V
[/size]

Why.. Why must I be so tense when knowing someone is/will be watching whatever I do. I suck a lot at school, I suck really much when I stream, I suck when I'm trying to teach someone to play, but to top all this off, I even suck when I'm ALONE in my room, recording a live run. Sheesh, me, grow some balls.

I know this feeling all too well. its funny how it works.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 01, 2012, 02:19:21 AM
*rocking back and forth, crying and laughing at the same time, black circles around his eyes as if he's gone insane*

I've got a test in Algebra tomorrow but I DON'T FUCKING CARE AS LONG AS I 1CC UFO ON HARD TONIGHT AND TONIGHT ONLY FUCK STUDYING I KNOW ALGEBRA LIKE A 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL KNOWS JUSTIN BIEBER TRIVIA

I don't even fucking care if I play as the cheapest fucking character in the game, as long as I 1cc it on Hard. That's all I even wanted in the first place. And then I can move up to Lunatic. And then I can start 90FPS 1ccing shit. And then 120FPS 1ccing the same shit.

I'd be able to go without going insane when I play UFO if it weren't for the fact that I've memorized all of the themes from the game over theme to Ichirin/Unzan's battle theme IN MIDI FORM. If it weren't for that, and the fact that I've grown to hate the UFO soundfont (Unless it's used right like it was used for Murasa's fight and Nue's fight), I'd be able to take losing an extra life fragment easily. I restart upon losing a life fragment early in the game because I don't want to have to go through the entire fucking game just because I missed ONE LIFE FRAGMENT in Nazrin or Kogasa's stage (AND YES, THAT'S HAPPENED ONCE. I WAS ON FLYING FUCKING FANTASTICA AND I DIED WITH 3/4 OF A LIFE AND NO BOMBS AT THE LAST FUCKING PIXEL OF HEALTH).

So yeah, fuck you UFO, and fuck you ZUN for making it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on March 01, 2012, 02:20:03 AM
lol let's 2d all of pre-Mamizou
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on March 01, 2012, 02:44:41 AM
PCB stage 4 has a reputation of being a ridiculously hard stage. This, to me, is utterly incomprehensible. It is bloody freaking BORING.

I timed out one attack from the Prismrivers, and I am so glad I did it on my first try because I will not have to suffer through that snoozefest for quite a long time to come. And why is it so fucking LONG? And then the Prismrivers don't show up for like 15 seconds. Way to go, ZUN, add insult to injury.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 02:50:44 AM
I DON'T FUCKING CARE AS LONG AS I 1CC UFO ON HARD TONIGHT
Have some advice.
DON'T
Seriously, UFO hard took me ~30-40 tries that reached midboss Nazrin (and only about a third of my tries did) to clear.  If you get it then good for you, but you're going to go insane, not get any sleep and fail your test.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 01, 2012, 08:18:49 AM
fail your test.

Mah, algebra is easy. He should just keep trying.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on March 01, 2012, 10:26:16 AM
This, to me, is utterly incomprehensible. It is bloody freaking BORING.
Yeah that's always been my impression as well. One of the worst stages in Touhou in my opinion. It doesn't help when you don't like the bgm.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 01, 2012, 11:28:52 AM
PCB stage 4 has a reputation of being a ridiculously hard stage. This, to me, is utterly incomprehensible. It is bloody freaking BORING.

This is how I feel about basically any stage in the series but I agree, especially Stage 4 in PCB is painful. Its like sitting through Byakuren's Stage four times in a row. I think the reason why people think this is because its one of those stages that can throw a large amount of bullets at you if you are doing it wrong. And because most people doesn't have the stages properly memorized.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on March 01, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
Finally gathered the courage to pull off the Okuu opener supergrazing in a real run, only to get shoryuken'd after the first wave  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 01, 2012, 05:09:39 PM
I've just tried the easiest thing ever - TD normal 90 fps. And failed at the last second of Miko's lastspell :fail: There are also a lot of usless derps along the way. Gotta try again right now.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Marisa Kirisame on March 01, 2012, 05:38:53 PM
*tries for perfect Mokou run.*

Rings of Death..... enough said.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 01, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
Oh hey, here's a bright idea.

I suck at Shou's lasers so much I ought to practice them at Normal 90fps!

~half an hour later~

THIS WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA I MEAN WHAT JUST WHAT

I THINK I MIGHT BE SCARRED FOR LIFE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MewMewHeart on March 01, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Confession... I HAVE A CURSE OF DYING OF ON STAGE 4 OF EACH TOUHOU SERIES!!!

Exception: PoFV due to Komachi and Eki. But, the Touhou fighters I can beat. :matsuriscowl:

But... yeah... TD... Stage 4 IT'S CLUSTER HELL EVERYWHERE BAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! >:(

I usually play Normal mode for all Touhou bullet hell stages.  :o
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 01, 2012, 08:04:43 PM
Confession... I HAVE A CURSE OF DYING OF ON STAGE 4 OF EACH TOUHOU SERIES!!!

Exception: PoFV due to Komachi and Eki. But, the Touhou fighters I can beat. :matsuriscowl:

But... yeah... TD... Stage 4 IT'S CLUSTER HELL EVERYWHERE BAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! >:(

I usually play Normal mode for all Touhou bullet hell stages.  :o
TD stage 4 is probably the easiest stage 4 of all windows touhous, especially on normal. Where exactly do you experiencing problems? Big fairies before midboss? Just kill'em asap. Waves of rushing fairies after midboss? Stay unfocused in the middle (especially if you're playing with Reimu) or prepare full trance if you feel unconfident.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 01, 2012, 09:29:29 PM
*rocking back and forth, crying*

Minoriko, why do you do this to me? Why? I'm just trying to win but you keep killing me on your second nonspell. Please just let me win for once.

oh fuck it FUCK YOU MINORIKO I FUCKING HATE YOU AND YOUR STUPID HARVEST I DON'T CARE IF IT MEANS I'LL NEVER EAT GOOD FOOD AGAIN I FUCKING HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

WHY AM I TRYING TO WIN ON LUNATIC ALREADY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY I FUCKING HATE THIS GOD DAMN GAME I FUCKING HATE ITOGHRIOGHIROGHIORGJHWEIOGHSIWEOHGIOWSGNOSWEGOWERSHGTIOLESHOIERWHGIOWHJGIOREHGIOWENGOISWEHGIOLSDHGTIOH

Rage session over.

I just fucking hate you, Minoriko. I've TRIED methods to relieve anger, including a certain other's methods, but like punching pillows, writing angry letters and sometimes not sending them, and going into the bathroom and screaming my head off, SEVEN FUCKING WORDS.

IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. AT. FUCKING. ALL.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 01, 2012, 09:37:47 PM
Is this Lunatic Minoriko or Hard Minoriko we're talking about? She does go a step above trivial on Hard but after a few attempts you should get used to it. The only big 'fuck you' moments from then on should be bad laser placements @ her last spell. Lunatic. Yeah, slightly harder than hard. :U

Also god damn, I now read Shou's lasers much better but I STILL die to them. What the hell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 01, 2012, 09:42:07 PM
Is this Lunatic Minoriko or Hard Minoriko we're talking about? She does go a step above trivial on Hard but after a few attempts you should get used to it. The only big 'fuck you' moments from then on should be bad laser placements @ her last spell. Lunatic. Yeah, slightly harder than hard. :U

1. Lunatic. Fucking. Minoriko.

2. "Lunatic. Yeah, slightly harder than hard. :v"
SLIGHTLY HARDER? Really? This is comparing slow walls with a streaming trail that's easy to synchronize dodge patterns with to something with CAVE-SPEED WALLS AND "RIGHT FUCKING NOW"-SPEED STREAMING AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME.

It's mainly her second nonspell. I can actually do her second spell like nobody's business on Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 01, 2012, 09:51:17 PM
I was actually being sarcastic. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on March 01, 2012, 09:52:46 PM
You may not be doing it right, since it's certainly easier than her first nonspell as well as her second spell. You want to quickly move right so that you stay on the same lane. You can ignore the aimed bullets because you're always moving, the walls of the lane can also be ignored if you've got you're speed right, and the only stuff you need to worry about the slow bullets drifting left. Move back to the left after each wave to prepare for the next one.

And if all else fails just bomb it. You'll get the power back in stage 2.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Piranha on March 01, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
Just game over'd on Q.E.D :colonveeplusalpha:

That was by far my best run yet, I perfected everything up to Maze of Love(which I'm getting FINALLY used to) because I started 4/0 into the fight and tried to survive as long as possible...
But that was SO FUCKING CLOSE!!!

Give me 3 more tries, and I have the Extra clear!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 01, 2012, 10:04:59 PM
And if all else fails just bomb it. You'll get the power back in stage 2.

BUT THAT'S SO HUMILIATING
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 01, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
BUT THAT'S SO HUMILIATING
MoF was designed to bomb a lot (unless you're like superplayer who gonna perfect as much as possible). Bomb moar and you'll get further, bombs are almost free in this game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 01, 2012, 10:16:10 PM
Not to mention, bombing is far less humiliating than dying with bombs in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 01, 2012, 10:27:02 PM
Not to mention, bombing is far less humiliating than dying with bombs in stock.

But that happens more often than preemptively bombing. At least with dying with bombs in stock, you're not pussying out of a dense bullet situation.



Also, if you want to know why I get bent out of shape like this, it's because my own personal motto is "There is no such thing as a flawed system". Whenever I lose a life stupidly, I'll just start slapping myself for the next two minutes, yelling my own motto at myself in a ludicrously stupid attempt at correcting myself. My personal motto is a fancy way of saying that everyone and everything is perfect, which I've seen can backfire as much as it can lead to success.

For instance, I've spent the past ten minutes failing ludicrously at trying to get to Remilia without dying or bombing, and believe it or not the fairies are much worse than Eternal Meek. Guess why my face is as red as the moon.

My face hurts.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 01, 2012, 10:29:37 PM
But that happens more often than preemptively bombing. At least with dying with bombs in stock, you're not pussying out of a dense bullet situation.

So, you'd prefer to continue dying early on in the game, lest you be a "pussy", then actually use the game resources and get further? OK.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 01, 2012, 10:32:11 PM
Clear first, perfect after.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 01, 2012, 10:35:22 PM
So, you'd prefer to continue dying early on in the game, lest you be a "pussy", then actually use the game resources and get further? OK.
1. *than
2. Let me correct myself. I make videos of most of my 1cc runs. Do you think it looks that good that I'm bombing like mad against Hina? Minoriko? Shizuha? Nitori?

Thought so.

Clear first, perfect after.

I don't WANT to perfect it. I want it to look good for when I record it and upload it to YouTube. As long as I don't look immensely stupid in my videos. I could care less what people think of me on here, but a lot of my friends watch my videos, a few being Cave experts and massive elitists. In other words, bombing in stage 1 is worth making someone a laughingstock. Bombing in stage 2 is debatable, and stage 3 and onward is acceptable as long as it isn't excessive.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MewMewHeart on March 01, 2012, 10:43:02 PM
TD stage 4 is probably the easiest stage 4 of all windows touhous, especially on normal. Where exactly do you experiencing problems? Big fairies before midboss? Just kill'em asap. Waves of rushing fairies after midboss? Stay unfocused in the middle (especially if you're playing with Reimu) or prepare full trance if you feel unconfident.

Mid-boss Seiga... WITH HER GIANT ASS ORBS OF DOOM THAT LEAD ME TO CLIP DEATH!!!!  :getdown:

Then one time I caught half of her spell cards until the last one I had a derp moment.

I'll see if I can practice stage 4 until I learn to break the curse that hinders me from going to stage 5 of a Touhou bullet hell game, except for PoFV... grr... I HAAAAATE YOU KOMACHI AND EIKI I HAAAAAAAAATE YOU AND YOUR OP CRAAAAAAAAAAP!!!! Especially, Komachi and your fullscreen focus coins of death.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 01, 2012, 10:49:53 PM
1. *than

Seriously?

2. Let me correct myself. I make videos of most of my 1cc runs. Do you think it looks that good that I'm bombing like mad against Hina? Minoriko? Shizuha? Nitori?

A 1cc is a 1cc. If you're so concerned with "how it looks" to use bombs, you're going to end up setting yourself up for a whole lot of unnecessary frustration and hold yourself back. You're not going to 1cc without using bombs in the early stages right off the bat. You seem to expect to be able to jump right in and start recording your perfect run. This is why you're raging  - you have set up unrealistic expectations for yourself, and naturally you fail to reach them.

If it's really so important to you to impress "game elitists", start by using the game resources and then get better. You're not going to get very far without them.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 01, 2012, 10:55:33 PM
Mid-boss Seiga... WITH HER GIANT ASS ORBS OF DOOM THAT LEAD ME TO CLIP DEATH!!!!  :getdown:

Then one time I caught half of her spell cards until the last one I had a derp moment.
Those orbs have actually a hitbox equal to their inner white circle. You can completely ignore the black glow. As for midboss card, it's one of the easiest thing ever. Really. You just need to misdirect orbs to the side and then go to the bottom right below Seiga and slide through the walls upwards. It works on every difficulty including lunatic ultra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk72J8MbbU8) The only thing you need to bother is a newborn orb coming after each wave. Dont smash yourself in it when exiting the walls.

And last Seiga/Yoshika's card Tao Taidou is easy on any difficulty too (except overdrive >_<) On normal and even hard you can end it very fast by standing right under Seiga and moving as little as possible, evading only those lasers and orbs wich are coming your way. This needs some confidence to pull though, so go try it in spell practice. Another longer but more safe method is misdirecting balls from side to side (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xhb4QAiB760#t=1074s), while avoiding lasers.

I don't WANT to perfect it. I want it to look good for when I record it and upload it to YouTube. As long as I don't look immensely stupid in my videos. I could care less what people think of me on here, but a lot of my friends watch my videos, a few being Cave experts and massive elitists. In other words, bombing in stage 1 is worth making someone a laughingstock. Bombing in stage 2 is debatable, and stage 3 and onward is acceptable as long as it isn't excessive.
This actually makes sence, but only if you already can perfect first stages on regular base. But if not - this means the difficulty you've choosen is to high for your current skill level. You'd better 1CC it "by any means" wich involves using resourses for survival. That will highly increase your self-confidence and remove most of the fears and rages within this game, so you can aim for a "nice looking" run after. And since MoF gives you whole lotta bombs there's no shame at all to bomb on stage 1 lunatic if it causes problems to you ;)

P.S.: and dont afraid to look "stupid" in the videos. Lunatic 1CC is lunatic 1CC and everyone will respect you for this no matter of performance you've shown.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 01, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
It's not that I want to impress them, it's that I don't want to be a laughingstock.

I don't WANT to perfect it. I want it to look good for when I record it and upload it to YouTube. As long as I don't look immensely stupid in my videos. I could care less what people think of me on here, but a lot of my friends watch my videos, a few being Cave experts and massive elitists. In other words, bombing in stage 1 is worth making someone a laughingstock. Bombing in stage 2 is debatable, and stage 3 and onward is acceptable as long as it isn't excessive.

But fine, I'll try your method even though it won't make me much better because it's just bombing like a madman. Woo, I can hit X repeatedly. Clap clap clap. Kazoo. Confetti.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on March 01, 2012, 11:02:56 PM
But I still bomb Rice God's Promise (or whatever it is) :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 01, 2012, 11:05:12 PM
I don't WANT to perfect it. I want it to look good for when I record it and upload it to YouTube. As long as I don't look immensely stupid in my videos. I could care less what people think of me on here, but a lot of my friends watch my videos, a few being Cave experts and massive elitists. In other words, bombing in stage 1 is worth making someone a laughingstock. Bombing in stage 2 is debatable, and stage 3 and onward is acceptable as long as it isn't excessive.

For some reason I have difficulty imagining you having friends who are Cave experts, let alone more than one of them. Secondly, why would there be anything with dropping a bomb at Stage 1 if its something difficult that you are bombing? I have no problems bombing Yamame's opener for example.


Also, if you want to know why I get bent out of shape like this, it's because my own personal motto is "There is no such thing as a flawed system". Whenever I lose a life stupidly, I'll just start slapping myself for the next two minutes, yelling my own motto at myself in a ludicrously stupid attempt at correcting myself. My personal motto is a fancy way of saying that everyone and everything is perfect, which I've seen can backfire as much as it can lead to success.

That sounds like the most self-destructive motto I've ever heard. Nothing and nobody is perfect. You are bound to become frustrated because you aren't able to live up to your own motto and its not gonna change with practice because you are never ever gonna be perfect. Instead, you should stick with something like a motto like "Everyone can become awesome" or something along those lines. And never ever forget that being awesome is a relative thing. You might be lulled into the illusion that you are awesome when you can 1cc SA Lunatic without difficulty but then UFO happens and then you learn that you aren't. Or you spend 2 years whining about here and that is the path I don't want you to take.

PS: Oh and Minoriko's final, don't think too badly of it if you have to bomb it. Bombing it looks hella better than dying to it by standing still on top a laser like an idiot.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 01, 2012, 11:13:59 PM
PS: Oh and Minoriko's final, don't think too badly of it if you have to bomb it. Bombing it looks hella better than dying to it by standing still on top a laser like an idiot.

Yes. Exactly this, in pretty much any situation. Espu, if you're so concerned with possible ridicule, compare:

"Wow, I can't believe you bombed that card."

with

"Wow, I can't believe you died with bombs in stock."

The first is forgivable; even expected. The second is just plain stupid.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on March 01, 2012, 11:22:47 PM
Even though it's not the same game, my PCB 90 FPS Phantasm run bombs nearly every single spellcard and almost every nonspell gets a border break, and then still sometimes a bomb.

However, I never once die with a bomb in stock and clear with a life to spare.  Previous attempts had more captures, but died with bombs in stock several times.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 01, 2012, 11:29:26 PM
Even though it's not the same game, my PCB 90 FPS Phantasm run bombs nearly every single spellcard and almost every nonspell gets a border break, and then still sometimes a bomb.

However, I never once die with a bomb in stock and clear with a life to spare.  Previous attempts had more captures, but died with bombs in stock several times.
Yeah. Pretty much how i've cleared TD lunatic. Bombing and trancing every shit that looks menacing, cause i knew otherwise it would be impossible to clear with my skill.
Or in other words - it makes no sence to continuously rush yourself into "well looking play" while not being able to clear the game. That would be more reason for "laughingstock" if your video will end on stage 4 :p
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 02, 2012, 12:10:00 AM
Yes. Exactly this, in pretty much any situation. Espu, if you're so concerned with possible ridicule, compare:

"Wow, I can't believe you bombed that card."

with

"Wow, I can't believe you died with bombs in stock."

The first is forgivable; even expected. The second is just plain stupid.

Fuck. Might as well TRY IT.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on March 02, 2012, 01:54:01 AM
Let me correct myself. I make videos of most of my 1cc runs. Do you think it looks that good that I'm bombing like mad against Hina? Minoriko? Shizuha? Nitori?
If can offer my opinion, whenever I see someone die with bombs in stock in a video I think to myself, "oops, looks like he screwed up," while I think tactically using bombs makes the person look like they're playing intelligently and planning ahead. I was playing MoF a while ago and I bombed Minoriko's last spell every single time. Getting killed by a spell that likes to randomly screw you over when you could have bombed at no cost is just stupid. And, dare I say, even if you do capture it by the skin of your teeth, it still looks kind of dumb if you should've bombed and you didn't, despite capturing the card.

Also, you shouldn't be playing a game just to impress people. You should play for fun, and if you pull off some cool stuff then you can show it off to people, but driving yourself crazy just so your replays look cool is terrible.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Erppo on March 02, 2012, 01:55:26 AM
Is it finally the time to mention that you actually should be bombing the stage 1 nonspells for optimal play.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on March 02, 2012, 01:56:47 AM
Hey. Hush. You know what I do? I bomb because the sounds that lay when you capture a card / start a card because I'm so unnerved. You think that doesn't look bad?

Oh, whoops, ninja'd.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 02, 2012, 02:05:56 AM
Hey. Hush. You know what I do? I bomb because the sounds that lay when you capture a card / start a card because I'm so unnerved. You think that doesn't look bad?

Oh, whoops, ninja'd.

 
This happens to the best of us. I've "traded spellcards " a couple of times myself.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 02, 2012, 02:21:10 AM
Is it finally the time to mention that you actually should be bombing the stage 1 nonspells for optimal play.

(http://myfacewhen.com/images/269.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on March 02, 2012, 07:12:11 AM
If can offer my opinion, whenever I see someone die with bombs in stock in a video I think to myself, "oops, looks like he screwed up," while I think tactically using bombs makes the person look like they're playing intelligently and planning ahead. I was playing MoF a while ago and I bombed Minoriko's last spell every single time. Getting killed by a spell that likes to randomly screw you over when you could have bombed at no cost is just stupid. And, dare I say, even if you do capture it by the skin of your teeth, it still looks kind of dumb if you should've bombed and you didn't, despite capturing the card.

Also, you shouldn't be playing a game just to impress people. You should play for fun, and if you pull off some cool stuff then you can show it off to people, but driving yourself crazy just so your replays look cool is terrible.

This post made me feel good about myself, best advice ever!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on March 02, 2012, 07:47:42 AM
Quote
In other words, bombing in stage 1 is worth making someone a laughingstock.

Are you telling me that LYX and coa are laughingstocks?

:getdown:

But yeah, bombing on Shizuha's and Minoriko's nonspells will increase your faith.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on March 02, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
I think this may be the first time I ever say these words on anything Touhou-related and mean it:

I give up. This is impossible.

I am now formally convinced that no-vertical SA Extra cannot be done. I just had a run where I got ridiculously lucky on Youkai Polygraph (seriously, try going straight through a wall TWICE in one run), did just about EVERYTHING else just right, and still didn't make it to Subterranean Rose.

This is just fucking depressing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 02, 2012, 09:15:30 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I FUCKING HATE YOU SHOU WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME

If you want to know what the fuck I'm ranting and raving about (And I redacted most of what I planned to type down), I've been continuing on UFO Stage 5 Hard for, and I'm not even exaggerating here, SINCE I GOT HOME FROM SCHOOL, which was an hour and a half, just subtract the fifteen-or-so minutes that took for me to ram through Stage 3 and 4 (Thank you resource management tips).

I fucking hate Shou with a passion. I can take Ichirin, her spells are hard as shit but at least they're manageable. Shou is paired with an annoying-as-fuck stage (Doable but resource collection is a bitch), and same applies for, say, Murasa, but Murasa's cards are at least FUN and ALL OF THEM ARE DOABLE (VAJRA, I'M FUCKING LOOKING AT YOU YOU SON OF A BITCH).

Let me state why I hate every boss from stage 1 to stage 5 in UFO

Stage 1 ~ Nazrin
Nazrin is fine, just her last card on Hard is a fucking dick.

Stage 2 ~ Kogasa
I hate these cards. The only one I like is her last card because it's ironically the easiest of her cards.

Stage 3 ~ Ichirin and Unzan
(http://myfacewhen.com/images/3.png)

Stage 4 ~ Murasa
FUCK YEAH SINKING VORTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

Stage 5 ~ Shou Toramaru
(http://myfacewhen.com/images/367.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 02, 2012, 09:18:16 PM
So I got vsynch working for EoSD, let's finally get that first Lunatic 1cc!

*death to Hailstorm*

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS, CIRNO?

*death to the second spell because a bullet turned stationary just as I was moving into it, anticipating it to go the fuck away*

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS, CIRNO?

*death to stage 3*

Just... just move on.

*death to Meiling's 'hard' card at close-to-or-max rank when I was doing well*

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS, MEILING?

*death to a laser on Stage 4 because I ran into it before it went away*

I-I-I WHAT THE HELL.

*death to

oh no oh no there is no way i'm reenacting the horror patchouli has caused me

i think i'm still crying
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MewMewHeart on March 02, 2012, 09:29:49 PM
Stage 3 ~ Ichirin and Unzan
(http://myfacewhen.com/images/3.png)

Ironically, those two are the exact same reason why I have NEVER reached Stage 4 in UFO on normal.  :matsuriscowl:

ALL BECAUSE OF THOSE DAM BRO FISTS!!!  :V

Seriously, TOO MUCH FIST to the face!!!!  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on March 02, 2012, 09:39:10 PM
I think this may be the first time I ever say these words on anything Touhou-related and mean it:

I give up. This is impossible.

I am now formally convinced that no-vertical SA Extra cannot be done. I just had a run where I got ridiculously lucky on Youkai Polygraph (seriously, try going straight through a wall TWICE in one run), did just about EVERYTHING else just right, and still didn't make it to Subterranean Rose.

This is just fucking depressing.

I think Baity beat SA extra no vert, but it might have been some other player. Try doing it no horizontal, that is pretty impossible  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 02, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
Going to post this anyway because SHOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU.

THREE DEATHS. WITH FULL BOMBS. ON HER SECOND NONSPELL.

SHOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on March 02, 2012, 10:26:33 PM
You can probably do some Easies with no horizontal. At least, with PCB you can.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 02, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
I think this may be the first time I ever say these words on anything Touhou-related and mean it:

I give up. This is impossible.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on March 02, 2012, 10:32:51 PM
You can probably do some Easies with no horizontal. At least, with PCB you can.  :V

MoF Easy was done by Nereid or maybe Funen, I've gotten to Okuu in SA. It's probably possible but it has been like a year since I last tried.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on March 02, 2012, 10:37:59 PM
I think Baity beat SA extra no vert, but it might have been some other player. Try doing it no horizontal, that is pretty impossible  :V
If so it's not on his channel and not on the uploader.  I know he said he was going to try but I don't think he ever got it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 02, 2012, 10:39:20 PM
I remember a video about No-Vert Koishi and how it was bullshit due to her survival card.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: ARF on March 02, 2012, 10:42:54 PM
Yeah it's possible it ended at the last survival or Subterreanean Rose, I can't remember.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 02, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
Quote
no vertical
Quote
Subterranean Rose
Excuse me, wat? :wat:

Speaking of easy. Did i mentioned that Haku had cleared TD (http://replays.gensokyou.org/index.php?u=Haku&g=13&p=&t=0&d=1&c=1&ch=0) both no vertical and no horisontal?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 03, 2012, 01:31:41 AM
no horizontal

...What
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on March 03, 2012, 06:34:11 AM
>reach Byakuren with all my lives for the first time ever
>pause for a snack
>th12.exe has crashed

Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Piranha on March 03, 2012, 11:47:36 AM
Hey Reimu, FUCK YOU AND YOUR FUCKING YIN YANG ORBS!
Oh, and Tewi, FUCK YOU TOO, YOU LITTLE BITCH.

Just wanted to get this out of my system. :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 03, 2012, 05:16:01 PM
>reach Byakuren with all my lives for the first time ever
>pause for a snack
>th12.exe has crashed

Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

...Now that is unfair.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on March 03, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
Let's try EoSD Hard!

> lol patchouli

Let's try PCB Hard!

> hahaha yuyuko

Let's try IN Hard!

> reisen says no

Let's try MoF Hard!

> suddenly kanako

Let's try SA Hard!

> definitely satori

Let's try UFO Hard!

> kogasa. just, kogasa

Let's try TD Hard!

> ahahahaha stage 1
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on March 03, 2012, 05:29:28 PM
Here's a replay for Esu - http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19186 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19186)

Oh Kogasa... >.>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 03, 2012, 06:34:34 PM
Let's try TD Hard!

> ahahahaha stage 1
I'd said "Hello, Yoshika!" :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MewMewHeart on March 03, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
I'd said "Hello, Yoshika!" :V

I have NEVER captured Yoshika's first spell card in my entire TD runs!  :getdown:

Do I win a derp cookie?  :V

But, seriously... those kunai bullets be clustering like hell.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 03, 2012, 06:52:29 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH NAZRIN THAT'S SO FUNNY OF YOU

OH KOGASA YOU'RE JUST BRINGING ON THE LAUGHS TODAY

JHPOITGHNEIOGHEOIHWOIHaHAHAHAHIAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAAAHAAHAHAHAHHAHHHAAHAA ICHIRIN THAT'S SO FUCKING FUNNY THE WAY YOUR BUDDY THROWS HIS FAISTS aROUND

FUCKING GOD DAMMIT FUCK IT FUCK TRYING TO BE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT MURASA'S A FUCKING TWAT AND SHOU IS HELLISH

And yes, I am using the "not hesitant to bomb" strategy. Guess what happened: I ran out of bombs and lives.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 03, 2012, 09:01:38 PM
Stupid little particles of Orin first nonspell! Y U NO leave the screen when Zombie Fairy has already started?! >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 03, 2012, 09:41:05 PM
Today my hand looks like an isotopic viewpoint map of Youkai Mountain.

Fuck you Sakuya. Fuck you.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Makai Butterfly on March 03, 2012, 10:05:02 PM
Self: Hmmm, I've never really tried out UFO Lunatic and given it an honest shot.  Let's try that.

<loads UFO Lunatic: Sanae B>
<STAGE 1>

Me: This isn't so bad.  Sure, there's a lot of bullet spam, but it's pretty (*pichuuuun*) .... yeah, spoke too soon.  Anyway, let's keep going.  Hello Nazrin!

<somehow survives everything Nazrin throws out until the pendulum spell>

Nazrin: *trollface* Like my crystals?

Me: NAZRIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNN! *sob*

<STAGE 2>

Me: Well, that was ridiculous.  Oh hai Kogasa!  Nice tongue you've got there.

Kogasa: EAT MINDBENDING PATTERNS THAT LOOK EASIER ON REPLAYS THAN WHILE PLAYING!

...

<closes UFO>
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on March 03, 2012, 10:46:45 PM
Why does everybody in IN hate me so much? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19187)

I don't recall Marisa nor Reisen being this much of a pain in the ass, especially on Normal
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Random on March 04, 2012, 12:00:21 AM
>trying to time out SFN (with Yuyuko, nonetheless)
>105 attempts later, 23 seconds left
>red bullet hides in blue bullets and hits me

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO  :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 04, 2012, 12:15:20 AM
Tonight is a night of "Special Olympics" challenge. Trying to perfect SA stage 5 on normal... Over 100 attempts and still manage to fuckup somewhere. Oh man, there are quite a lot of tough places in this stage, each alone is a challenge to perfect:
 - still derp to "popcorn section" in every second try. >:(
 - still fail Cat Walk sometimes
 -  still cant surely capture 3rd nonspell, Needle Mountain and Orin's last spell (forgot it's name) :fail:

It's like i've perfected every piece separately many times but still cant "assemble" them togeter in one perfect run. (http://club.foto.ru/images/smiles/icon_killyourself.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 04, 2012, 12:52:35 AM
Tonight is a night of "Special Olympics" challenge. Trying to perfect SA stage 5 on normal... Over 100 attempts and still manage to fuckup somewhere. Oh man, there are quite a lot of tough places in this stage, each alone is a challenge to perfect:
 - still derp to "popcorn section" in every second try. >:(
 - still fail Cat Walk sometimes
 -  still cant surely capture 3rd nonspell, Needle Mountain and Orin's last spell (forgot it's name) :fail:

It's like i've perfected every piece separately many times but still cant "assemble" them togeter in one perfect run. (http://club.foto.ru/images/smiles/icon_killyourself.gif)

Stop trying.

Please, just get better at Lunatic then go back to perfecting a hellish stage that tosses a UFO boss out of the water in difficulty.

NOW FOR ME

My mother's freaking stupid. She's laughing at how bad I am at UFO Hard when she's barely able to beat Nazrin on Easy. Kinda scary if you ask me. And yes, my mother plays Touhou every now and then. If she's not stupid, then damn hypocritical.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Goldom on March 04, 2012, 06:34:58 AM
So I tried to get through Shou's final spell on Normal in practice without bombing to, you know, practice.

I died EVERY round it fired. Game over. In practice mode. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 04, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
Entering Esupanitix mode...

Holy crap... 98724714834th try on perfecting SA stage 5:

- I captured Cat Walk that's good,

- i somehow sucessfully streamed the infamous popcorn section without clipping into some random bullet, that's awesome,

- i managed to dodge the awful streaming section after that, wich rarely happens. Holy shit!

- Hello, Orin! Let's capture first nonspell, Zombie Fairy and FUCKING DERP TO THE EASIEST SECOND NONSPELL WHATHEFUCK!!! >:(

But you know what's the most raging part of that run? I'VE FUCKING CAPTURED THE REST OF HER FREAKING ATTACKS! Holy bananas, that never happened before in the same run. I captured Spleen Eater, her last hardest nonspell, FUCKING TROLL WHEELS OF NEEDLE MOUNTAIN! and Rekindling of Dead Ashes...
Maaan... I was like perfected the fucking stage at last, except THAT MOTHERFUCKING EASIEST THING! And to sun my feelings:

I HATE YOU ORIN! GO BURN IN HELL! Oh wait, you're already in hell. No matter. I'LL PIERCE YOUR STUPID FAIRIES WITH MY HAKUREI NEEDLES AND STICK THEM IN YOUR ASS, MOTHERFUCKER!

Exiting Esupanitix mode.

Oh well. If my words hurt someone, please excuse me. I promise not to output my rage in this fashion anymore :colbert: But man.. seriously... I fell like i've just lost all my motivation for the rest of the day :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 04, 2012, 06:10:44 PM
I'm just going to leave this here, and point you to the comment in the box. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19198)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 04, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
>reach Byakuren with all my lives for the first time ever
>pause for a snack
>th12.exe has crashed

Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Of all the things mentioned in this thread so far, this would make me rage the hardest. Not being able to beat a particular spellcard, boss or game - that I can chalk up to my own lack of ability and practice. Finally have an amazing run right up to the final boss, only to have the game crash? At least one piece of furniture would get broken.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 04, 2012, 06:34:53 PM
Of all the things mentioned in this thread so far, this would make me rage the hardest. Not being able to beat a particular spellcard, boss or game - that I can chalk up to my own lack of ability and practice. Finally have an amazing run right up to the final boss, only to have the game crash? At least one piece of furniture would get broken.

This should be nominated for most infuriating touhou ragecause.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 04, 2012, 06:48:02 PM
Entering Esupanitix mode...

Holy crap... 98724714834th try on perfecting SA stage 5:

- I captured Cat Walk that's good,

- i somehow sucessfully streamed the infamous popcorn section without clipping into some random bullet, that's awesome,

- i managed to dodge the awful streaming section after that, wich rarely happens. Holy shit!

- Hello, Orin! Let's capture first nonspell, Zombie Fairy and FUCKING DERP TO THE EASIEST SECOND NONSPELL WHATHEFUCK!!! >:(

But you know what's the most raging part of that run? I'VE FUCKING CAPTURED THE REST OF HER FREAKING ATTACKS! Holy bananas, that never happened before in the same run. I captured Spleen Eater, her last hardest nonspell, FUCKING TROLL WHEELS OF NEEDLE MOUNTAIN! and Rekindling of Dead Ashes...
Maaan... I was like perfected the fucking stage at last, except THAT MOTHERFUCKING EASIEST THING! And to sun my feelings:

I HATE YOU ORIN! GO BURN IN HELL! Oh wait, you're already in hell. No matter. I'LL PIERCE YOUR STUPID FAIRIES WITH MY HAKUREI NEEDLES AND STICK THEM IN YOUR ASS, MOTHERFUCKER!

Exiting Esupanitix mode.

Oh well. If my words hurt someone, please excuse me. I promise not to output my rage in this fashion anymore :colbert: But man.. seriously... I fell like i've just lost all my motivation for the rest of the day :qq:

I hate you. For one, there are many problems with what you are saying.

I do not try to make perfect runs all the time, and I would have stopped at 20 attempts when it comes to Rin's stage.
I do not say "Whathefuck" because "whathefuck" is not a word. Say it with me. "What the fuck". "What the fuck".
If I'm doing good against ORIN, for instance, but lose to like one or two things, I do not get mad. If I do bad against the entire boss, I get pissed off. Majorly.
I don't say "Motherfucker"
The font's not big enough
I do not threaten bosses with abilities or weapons owned by specific characters (If I did, I would be yelling at Remilia, threatening her with lasers)
You can't "sun" something.
The rage is way too fucking mellow
I make sure that my I's don't have dots
I type in actual numbers when I go for high counts instead of banging my forehead against the number pad on my keyboard.
"raging" is not an adjective that works in context for a partition of an event.
"last hardest nonspell" makes no sense.
I don't pause in the middle of a medium-large bold text line to type regular text and go back to the visual yelling.

So yeah, if you're going to imitate me, imitate me right. Use correct grammar and actual words that aren't phrases without spaces like "whathefuck", and make sure your standalone "I"s aren't dotted.

On a better note, fuck Ultra Aya.

In case anyone else can't tell, he said "Entering Esupanitix Mode..." as if trying to imitate me and I was calling him out on how stupid it was.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on March 04, 2012, 07:11:07 PM
Well, most of Shou was panicbombing anyways. :V
On another note, doesn't running the games through vpatch make them crash more?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 04, 2012, 07:13:16 PM
On another note, doesn't running the games through vpatch make them crash more?

Not that I recall. I use Vpatch all the time and I haven't had a crash since I started.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 04, 2012, 07:42:08 PM
In case anyone else can't tell, he said "Entering Esupanitix Mode..." as if trying to imitate me and I was calling him out on how stupid it was.
Wow, you sound like someone who needs an ass kicking.  ::)

1. How do you manage to type proper grammar if you are blind with rage? Doesn't bad grammar indicate RAGE TYPING?
2. Using large fonts and get some moderator to make you stop might be your style but really too smart.
3. Whathefuck/ what the fuck why do you care?

I'll just assume that you weren't entirely serious. Heh. And since people are talking about Ultra. Let me just throw in my complaints.



Fuck Shizuha for that spell. Is it even possible? Even if it is, it's that lovely kind of pixel perfection difficulty. Rest of the stage is a lot better made.
Fuck Hina for not only having a 2nd spell that is seemingly random with respects to whether you can dodge it or not and the final which is completely outrageous.

And I haven't even touched upon the later stages...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 04, 2012, 07:54:35 PM
In case anyone else can't tell, he said "Entering Esupanitix Mode..." as if trying to imitate me and I was calling him out on how stupid it was.
Oh sorry, man. That wasn't an effort of acurate imitating of your rage. I did my best, but i can't reach your level ;)
And I haven't even touched upon the later stages...
You'll be "surprised" by how Nitori's patterns and VoWG look on ultra :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 04, 2012, 08:34:40 PM
Wow, you sound like someone who needs an ass kicking.  ::)

1. How do you manage to type proper grammar if you are blind with rage? Doesn't bad grammar indicate RAGE TYPING?
2. Using large fonts and get some moderator to make you stop might be your style but really too smart.
3. Whathefuck/ what the fuck why do you care?

I'll just assume that you weren't entirely serious.

1. I manage to type with proper grammar because as angry as I get, a grammar mistake on my part makes me furious to the point where it's only been topped once or twice by the games. One time being my wonderful Normal UFO run turning to shit right on Byakuren's fight and dying right at the last pixel of health of Flying Fantastica, and the other being my reactions to UFO Hard and how much the difficulty spikes over Normal compared to other Normal-to-Hard increases in the series. Also to be frank, I never get angry to the point of being blind with rage, I only have my eyes pop out of my forehead, steam come out of my ears, and the word rage is visible in my eyes.
2. I was saying that if he were trying to imitate someone's raging, he should use the right font size (24pt to 36pt) and bold/italic frequency
3. Because what the fuck, when condensed together, is whatthefuck, not whathefuck. I hate it when people conjoin words to the point where, say, someone would condense "danmaku universe" down to "danmakuniverse"; double letters get condensed to one and it pisses me off for no reason.

I wasn't entirely serious, but I just felt I should criticize an amateur imitation. It was good until he started going offroad.

Yeah, I'm sorry about the absolute mauling on your grammar, I didn't remember at that point that you were from Russia.

Fuck Shizuha for that spell. Is it even possible? Even if it is, it's that lovely kind of pixel perfection difficulty. Rest of the stage is a lot better made.
Fuck Hina for not only having a 2nd spell that is seemingly random with respects to whether you can dodge it or not and the final which is completely outrageous.

And I haven't even touched upon the later stages...

Zengeku, calm the fuck down. You have automatic bombs, and you're playing Mountain of Faith.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 04, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry about the absolute mauling on your grammar, I didn't remember at that point that you were from Russia.

Russian grammar, by the by, is like 1000 times harder than English grammar. Russians tend to be better at English grammar than many native speakers.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 04, 2012, 09:01:56 PM
Russian grammar, by the by, is like 1000 times harder than English grammar. Russians tend to be better at English grammar than many native speakers.

Didn't know that. But still, it was the fact that he wasn't from a normally english-speaking country that made me apologize.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: chirpy13 on March 04, 2012, 09:19:07 PM
I'm just going to leave this here, and point you to the comment in the box. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19198)
Both of those stage 1 bombs were pretty unnecessary.  Parsee has no hitbox on her midboss spell, and those bullets move pretty slow.  Don't screw around and just go for the speedkill.  She should die on the second wave.  Parsee's first boss spell and in general, remember that ReimuA can teleport.  Incredibly useful skill if you're careful with it.  Last spell, you want to direct her shots to the bottom, not the sides/top.  The blue bullets will float upwards, so you can pretty much sit at the bottom and not worry about them too much aside from the occasional one that goes horizontally.  Stage 3 pre-midboss, bah more unnecessary bombs.  The first was because you PoC'd when you couldn't get yourself back out.  Should have just streamed the bullets to save save your power - knowing your own abilities is very important, so try to avoid putting yourself into situations you can't handle (practice mode aside).  The second was just what.  There was barely anything on the screen then.  For Yuugi bubbles, try to move unfocused a lot more.  It's pretty hard to focus dodge a lot of those bubbles.  Those fairies with the purple amulets at the end of stage 4 are aimed, so you can just sit on one side and tap once for each wave, no dodging required.  For the last fairy, if you're not consistent with it then you'll probably want to bomb that so you don't end up collecting the powerups and then bombing back to 3.00.  Especially if you go into that fairy at 4.00, since you'll always net a break-even in power.  Memo Satori's nonspells.  Memo her first spell (it's left, right, repeat as far as which side of the lasers you want to be on when they stop).  Practice her last spell more to get consistent at it, go into the safespot if you end up bombing on a real run, since it'll save you from burning more resources.  Stop shooting when you need to change direction for the stage 5 big Kedemas before Orin/midboss Orin.  For Orin spell 1, it helps a ton if you lead the fairies to the top of the screen at the start.  You can just sit under Orin and the suicide bullets from the fairies will be mostly spread out by the time they reach the bottom of the screen.  Second nonspell is MUCH easier from the top.  You also want to be careful not to blow up those spirit things, since they can cause all sorts of problems.  Second spell is pretty much right, though I'll also point out that ReimuA can cheese it with teleports (keep in mind that doesn't apply to Hard/Lunatic when you get there).  Second last spell has the wheels aimed at you, so you want to micrododge roughly a wheel radius to the side each time.  It is quite tough though.  Last spell can be cheesed by sitting on top of Orin (she has no hitbox for it) and then bombing when the fairies get close.  Do clockwise circles around the screen if you're trying to cap of course.  Stage 6 pre-Orin can be cheesed with teleports if you aren't good with redirecting it.  Okuu's first spell follows the same principle as Orin's second last, but harder.  I also notice you going for graze when you bomb and sitting between the blue lasers in stage 4, and while that sort of thing is good from a scoring perspective, you should be focusing more on the clear than anything.  You should mostly just be grazing for the autocollect.

I made a replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19202) if watching helps more than reading :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 04, 2012, 09:42:47 PM
Both of those stage 1 bombs were pretty unnecessary.  Parsee has no hitbox on her midboss spell, and those bullets move pretty slow.  Don't screw around and just go for the speedkill.  She should die on the second wave.  Parsee's first boss spell and in general, remember that ReimuA can teleport.  Incredibly useful skill if you're careful with it.  Last spell, you want to direct her shots to the bottom, not the sides/top.  The blue bullets will float upwards, so you can pretty much sit at the bottom and not worry about them too much aside from the occasional one that goes horizontally.  Stage 3 pre-midboss, bah more unnecessary bombs.  The first was because you PoC'd when you couldn't get yourself back out.  Should have just streamed the bullets to save save your power - knowing your own abilities is very important, so try to avoid putting yourself into situations you can't handle (practice mode aside).  The second was just what.  There was barely anything on the screen then.  For Yuugi bubbles, try to move unfocused a lot more.  It's pretty hard to focus dodge a lot of those bubbles.  Those fairies with the purple amulets at the end of stage 4 are aimed, so you can just sit on one side and tap once for each wave, no dodging required.  For the last fairy, if you're not consistent with it then you'll probably want to bomb that so you don't end up collecting the powerups and then bombing back to 3.00.  Especially if you go into that fairy at 4.00, since you'll always net a break-even in power.  Memo Satori's nonspells.  Memo her first spell (it's left, right, repeat as far as which side of the lasers you want to be on when they stop).  Practice her last spell more to get consistent at it, go into the safespot if you end up bombing on a real run, since it'll save you from burning more resources.  Stop shooting when you need to change direction for the stage 5 big Kedemas before Orin/midboss Orin.  For Orin spell 1, it helps a ton if you lead the fairies to the top of the screen at the start.  You can just sit under Orin and the suicide bullets from the fairies will be mostly spread out by the time they reach the bottom of the screen.  Second nonspell is MUCH easier from the top.  You also want to be careful not to blow up those spirit things, since they can cause all sorts of problems.  Second spell is pretty much right, though I'll also point out that ReimuA can cheese it with teleports (keep in mind that doesn't apply to Hard/Lunatic when you get there).  Second last spell has the wheels aimed at you, so you want to micrododge roughly a wheel radius to the side each time.  It is quite tough though.  Last spell can be cheesed by sitting on top of Orin (she has no hitbox for it) and then bombing when the fairies get close.  Do clockwise circles around the screen if you're trying to cap of course.  Stage 6 pre-Orin can be cheesed with teleports if you aren't good with redirecting it.  Okuu's first spell follows the same principle as Orin's second last, but harder.  I also notice you going for graze when you bomb and sitting between the blue lasers in stage 4, and while that sort of thing is good from a scoring perspective, you should be focusing more on the clear than anything.  You should mostly just be grazing for the autocollect.

I made a replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19202) if watching helps more than reading :V

Okay, I appreciate all of that, but let me just say all those earlier mistakes aren't very common, particularly Stages 4 and 5 are where I typically have trouble. And I'm completely aware of my unnecessary bombing, as for grazing, that's just a habit of mine, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Sapz on March 04, 2012, 09:57:27 PM
This thread is becoming very silly. Back in my day, we raged calmly and sedately, like gentlemen! Enough of the pedantry and arguing, let's get some classy rage in here. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 04, 2012, 10:03:31 PM
This thread is becoming very silly. Back in my day, we raged calmly and sedately, like gentlemen! Enough of the pedantry and arguing, let's get some classy rage in here. :V
(http://hm.pox.fi/random/le_fu.jpg) :D
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: chirpy13 on March 04, 2012, 10:04:58 PM
This thread is becoming very silly. Back in my day, we raged calmly and sedately, like gentlemen! Enough of the pedantry and arguing, let's get some classy rage in here. :V
I played a Psikyo game and got hit by an instalaser.  It was quite infuriating, I do say.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 04, 2012, 10:08:24 PM
Because I was feeling like all I wanted to do is fly around and shoot things without any real challenge, yesterday I fired up MoF and chose Marisa B in Easy Mode.

It was pretty awesome at first, but my own arrogance got the better of me during my fight with Sanae.

Lesson learned: "flow" doesn't just mean not stressing about the situation; it also means not getting cocky when things are going well.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 04, 2012, 10:10:52 PM
Both of those stage 1 bombs were pretty unnecessary.  Parsee has no hitbox on her midboss spell, and those bullets move pretty slow.  Don't screw around and just go for the speedkill.  She should die on the second wave.  Parsee's first boss spell and in general, remember that ReimuA can teleport.  Incredibly useful skill if you're careful with it.  Last spell, you want to direct her shots to the bottom, not the sides/top.  The blue bullets will float upwards, so you can pretty much sit at the bottom and not worry about them too much aside from the occasional one that goes horizontally.  Stage 3 pre-midboss, bah more unnecessary bombs.  The first was because you PoC'd when you couldn't get yourself back out.  Should have just streamed the bullets to save save your power - knowing your own abilities is very important, so try to avoid putting yourself into situations you can't handle (practice mode aside).  The second was just what.  There was barely anything on the screen then.  For Yuugi bubbles, try to move unfocused a lot more.  It's pretty hard to focus dodge a lot of those bubbles.  Those fairies with the purple amulets at the end of stage 4 are aimed, so you can just sit on one side and tap once for each wave, no dodging required.  For the last fairy, if you're not consistent with it then you'll probably want to bomb that so you don't end up collecting the powerups and then bombing back to 3.00.  Especially if you go into that fairy at 4.00, since you'll always net a break-even in power.  Memo Satori's nonspells.  Memo her first spell (it's left, right, repeat as far as which side of the lasers you want to be on when they stop).  Practice her last spell more to get consistent at it, go into the safespot if you end up bombing on a real run, since it'll save you from burning more resources.  Stop shooting when you need to change direction for the stage 5 big Kedemas before Orin/midboss Orin.  For Orin spell 1, it helps a ton if you lead the fairies to the top of the screen at the start.  You can just sit under Orin and the suicide bullets from the fairies will be mostly spread out by the time they reach the bottom of the screen.  Second nonspell is MUCH easier from the top.  You also want to be careful not to blow up those spirit things, since they can cause all sorts of problems.  Second spell is pretty much right, though I'll also point out that ReimuA can cheese it with teleports (keep in mind that doesn't apply to Hard/Lunatic when you get there).  Second last spell has the wheels aimed at you, so you want to micrododge roughly a wheel radius to the side each time.  It is quite tough though.  Last spell can be cheesed by sitting on top of Orin (she has no hitbox for it) and then bombing when the fairies get close.  Do clockwise circles around the screen if you're trying to cap of course.  Stage 6 pre-Orin can be cheesed with teleports if you aren't good with redirecting it.  Okuu's first spell follows the same principle as Orin's second last, but harder.  I also notice you going for graze when you bomb and sitting between the blue lasers in stage 4, and while that sort of thing is good from a scoring perspective, you should be focusing more on the clear than anything.  You should mostly just be grazing for the autocollect.

I made a replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19202) if watching helps more than reading :V

USE. PARAGRAPHS.

I do say, this is quite infuriating. During a scuffle with Lady Yuyuko on the Ultra setting, I ended up suffering a final casualty to Swallowtail Butterfly and dare I say I enjoyed that casualty.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: chirpy13 on March 04, 2012, 10:19:21 PM
USE. PARAGRAPHS.
I did.  One big paragraph.  But yeah, looking back on it, that was a pretty huge wall...
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Puffy on March 04, 2012, 10:21:07 PM
Was doing SA normal 4+5...was trying to no death it, but i can't remember it, because i remember the lunatic version so i was expecting "a bit more bullets" but thats not the case, so i died somehow by miss anticipating walls of bullets and lack of concentration.

But then thought...Fuck this, XephyrEnigma didn't want help and i was gonna give it (will do anyway if you want), but then that'll be the wrong topic since there's one dedicated for help. Time wasted well.

On the good side, Fuck yea 1cc'd crimzon clover! and type-z cheeses the whole game.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 04, 2012, 10:46:22 PM
Was doing SA normal 4+5...was trying to no death it, but i can't remember it, because i remember the lunatic version so i was expecting "a bit more bullets" but thats not the case, so i died somehow by miss anticipating walls of bullets and lack of concentration.

But then thought...Fuck this, XephyrEnigma didn't want help and i was gonna give it (will do anyway if you want), but then that'll be the wrong topic since there's one dedicated for help. Time wasted well.

On the good side, Fuck yea 1cc'd crimzon clover! and type-z cheeses the whole game.

Where'd you figure that? I never said I didnt want help, but I already have a Stage 5 replay from someone else. Sorry for wasting your time though.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on March 05, 2012, 04:32:20 AM
Dear Byakuren,
I hate you. I hate everything about you. Your stage, your theme, your design, and your existence all just plain suck. Just go and die die die die die so horribly all they recover of you is a trail of mangled, bloody intestines.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Byaaakuren on March 05, 2012, 06:22:11 AM
Dear Byakuren,
I hate you. I hate everything about you. Your stage, your theme, your design, and your existence all just plain suck. Just go and die die die die die so horribly all they recover of you is a trail of mangled, bloody intestines.

Byaaa... :<

On topic, IN sucks
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 05, 2012, 09:21:46 AM
Zengeku, calm the fuck down. You have automatic bombs, and you're playing Mountain of Faith.

Well that doesn't mean that I enjoy things that doesn't even give me a chance does it? I can only guess that their idea behind ultra MoF and SA was that now that the player's got a crapload of bombs, might as well make him need them thus effectively making it demanding that you expend resources to make it through instead of providing something that's just a really hard but possible version of the original.

The Ultra Patch makes some other things really cool too so its not like its all bad. It's just sad when they decide to roll with some pattern DFK's 2nd loop would be proud of. Except without the hypers.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 05, 2012, 11:10:04 AM
Well that doesn't mean that I enjoy things that doesn't even give me a chance does it? I can only guess that their idea behind ultra MoF and SA was that now that the player's got a crapload of bombs, might as well make him need them thus effectively making it demanding that you expend resources to make it through instead of providing something that's just a really hard but possible version of the original.

The Ultra Patch makes some other things really cool too so its not like its all bad. It's just sad when they decide to roll with some pattern DFK's 2nd loop would be proud of. Except without the hypers.
I suppose ultra patches have almost no intentional attempts on pattern playability. I think they just automatically change some values wich affect on how dense and fast shit will flow. :derp: This makes some patterns go complete bullshit, some become broken and trivial and some really harder, but doable.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Vanhaomena on March 05, 2012, 01:30:26 PM
Well that doesn't mean that I enjoy things that doesn't even give me a chance does it? I can only guess that their idea behind ultra MoF and SA was that now that the player's got a crapload of bombs, might as well make him need them thus effectively making it demanding that you expend resources to make it through instead of providing something that's just a really hard but possible version of the original.

The Ultra Patch makes some other things really cool too so its not like its all bad. It's just sad when they decide to roll with some pattern DFK's 2nd loop would be proud of. Except without the hypers.

I'm waiting warmly for your comments on Nitori's and Sanae's noncards and VoWG.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 05, 2012, 03:43:58 PM
I just tried out Nitori and VoWG today and by the gods is Nitori ever broken.

It's almost like, what the hell? Just box me in and then slam unavoidable garbage in my face. The next two are equally retarded. Her spells I haven't been able to capture but I'm not ready to judge them yet. Though the first and second seems entirely unpassable too.

VoWG. It sucks very fucking much. I died FOUR times going through barely dodging anything.

What I'm wondering here is; Even if he just altered some value-thingies in the coding to make things harder, then how come PCB turned out a lot more plausible. Maybe the patcher should've held a bit back. I also assume that it would have been possible to adjust each section of the game individually so it only gets boosted to the point where it is still humanly possible just very hard.

I probably shouldn't be bitching too much about this patch since its entirely optional for me to use it or not but really, it does something's really well so the guy behind it should actually finish his patch instead of just lazily make everything harder by throwing a few switches. That's almost an insult to the source material.

There I've done my raging. I'm pretty calm right now though so... it's not really raging.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 05, 2012, 03:58:47 PM
200 attempts on timing out Endless Evening Cherry Blossoms lunatic. The best i've got is 1 second left! :qq:

Cmon, BT, Malkyrian and other timeout obsessed players. Try it out.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Seppo Hovi on March 05, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
So I entered FinalB of IN on Yuyuko solo, playing on easy with only 70M behind the WR. Everything went to hell.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19218

Shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 05, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
OH THAT'S SO FUNNY IT'S HILARIOUS MURASA. IT'S FUCKING HILARIOUS. I DECIDE TO TAKE A PEE BREAK AND GET KILLED ON YOUR FIRST CARD WHEN I UNPAUSE. FUNNY THING IS I WAS HAVING THE BEST RUN I COULD HAVE THIS TIME.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FUCKING FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIRRRRRRRR


AHAIHOIAHIOAHHSAOHAHAHAPHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA THAT'S SO FUCKING FUNNY UFO THAT'S SO FUCKING FUNNY WHY DO YOU HAVE TO PLAY THIS BULLSHIT WITH ME I WAS PLAYING ON EASY MODE JUST TO BLOW SHIT UP AND HOPEFULLY RECOVER MY SELF ESTEEM FROM MY STUPID FAILURE AT HARD MODE AND YOU KILLED ME AT FUCKING KOGASA WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

ZUN THERE ARE SO MANY FUCKING THINGS I WANT TO DO TO YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD GET ME PERMABANNED IF I WERE TO EVEN SAY THEM

Esupanitix
Threatening ZUN with stabbing his kidneys and filling them with vodka since 2011
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 05, 2012, 10:59:29 PM
So what happened to the rest of your lives? Also, if any game is ass backwards out of the entire series, it'd have to be SA, considering the whole missing out on fragments for dying on patterns.

Edit: Before I forget, yes, I know that particular game is a bit more demanding in that you're expected to have some familiarity with it's patterns and spellcards, but for those who are a bit more prone to mistakes or overconfidence, the idea of losing out on life fragments for dying during bosses seems a little unfair, as opposed to UFO, which can be obnoxious at first, but once you get used to when you should and shouldn't collect UFOs, the system is a lot more flexible which brings me to a little tip for you, try to stock up on a few bombs before you get to Murasa.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 05, 2012, 11:05:12 PM
So what happened to the rest of your lives?

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg24/scaled.php?server=24&filename=1242776000145.png&res=medium)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MewMewHeart on March 05, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
ZUN THERE ARE SO MANY FUCKING THINGS I WANT TO DO TO YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD GET ME PERMABANNED IF I WERE TO EVEN SAY THEM

Esupanitix
Threatening ZUN with stabbing his kidneys and filling them with vodka since 2011
Um... then we won't have any more Touhou games if that happened.  :derp:

Just saying...

(http://www.automopedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dont-tase-me-bro-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 05, 2012, 11:16:08 PM
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg24/scaled.php?server=24&filename=1242776000145.png&res=medium)
Alright, let me just start by saying, I know exactly how this feels, but you can't let one death make everything go to shit like that. It's UFO, for every life you lose you can get three more down the road if you're careful. Just relax and stay calm.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 05, 2012, 11:21:28 PM
So what happened to the rest of your lives? Also, if any game is ass backwards out of the entire series, it'd have to be SA, considering the whole missing out on fragments for dying on patterns.

Which is why I use Reimu B. Thank you, autocollect!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 05, 2012, 11:23:56 PM
It's UFO, for every life you lose you can get three more down the road if you're careful.

This is a load of shit.

Even if I'm CAREFUL, six red UFOs is two stages AT LEAST
I die more than once a stage and I go for bombs that I never end up using because I'm trying to LEARN HOW TO CAPTURE SOMETHING, not FUCK IT UP LIKE EVERY OTHER TIME
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 05, 2012, 11:33:26 PM
This is a load of shit.

Even if I'm CAREFUL, six red UFOs is two stages AT LEAST
I die more than once a stage and I go for bombs that I never end up using because I'm trying to LEARN HOW TO CAPTURE SOMETHING, not FUCK IT UP LIKE EVERY OTHER TIME
First of all, you can get at minimum three red UFOs in a stage, so getting lives back isn't a whole lot of trouble. Second, focus on clearing stages in normal runs, learning spellcards is what practice mode is for. It's like kyouma told me, you've got to know your limits. Bombs are for getting yourself out of tight situations, rather than dying like an idiot.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on March 05, 2012, 11:42:53 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

First TD Hard attempt (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19225)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 05, 2012, 11:52:38 PM
I die more than once a stage

You are not done figuring stuff out obviously. Or you are simply not bombing things that are about to kill you. How well do you handle Stage 5? I can understand fucking up Stage 4 since its all about random dodging and pretty difficult too but almost everything else in the game is based on fixed patterns that can be dealt with through the same approach every time.

For the future, save your replays and upload them here. I don't care if they suck, upload them so I can offer you some constructive advice that you can actually use.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 05, 2012, 11:55:44 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

First TD Hard attempt (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=19225)
I'm curious, but dont have time to watch it now. Gimme some details on this run please (at least where you've gameovered). But overall advice - bomb moar cause the game gives you lot of bombs but just a few lives ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on March 05, 2012, 11:57:48 PM
I'm just gonna say that you're probably better off going for lives rather than bombs, Esupanitix. I know expending a life doesn't nuke the boss like a bomb would, but if there are spells that you really can't handle like that then you can try to plan it out so that you get bombs when you need them anyway. Not to mention dying with bombs in stock is a kick in the balls; dying with extra lives in stock is... dying with extra lives in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 06, 2012, 12:00:25 AM
practice mode
Bombs are for getting yourself out of tight situations, rather than dying like an idiot.
save your replays

This is all around good advice - use practice mode, bomb rather than die, and save replays of your failures - others can offer advice, and you can also learn from your replays by watching them yourself.

Also, chasing bombs in UFO is ... what? Don't do this. The game will give you plenty of bombs by default; go for lives instead.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 06, 2012, 12:19:08 AM
This is all around good advice - use practice mode, bomb rather than die, and save replays of your failures - others can offer advice, and you can also learn from your replays by watching them yourself.

Also, chasing bombs in UFO is ... what? Don't do this. The game will give you plenty of bombs by default; go for lives instead.

Chasing bombs? I'm not saying go exclusively for bombs, but if you know something is coming up that you can't handle, an extra bomb will help you with that, not to mention dying with two bombs or less is a waste.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on March 06, 2012, 12:45:58 AM
@MMX

I got to Guse Flash :I

My last life... a 0/8 bomb in stock :qq:

I guess worth mentioning is how bad I am at trance routes :<
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Elysia on March 06, 2012, 01:14:14 AM
Damnit ZUN, why did you put a 60 cards captured requirement on Phantasm? Does the phrase "on a new computer" mean nothing to you? Can't I just go straight to 90FPS Yukari?

I just played through Easy on PCB. Do you have any idea how boring that was?

...AND I'M STILL 16 CARDS SHORT.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 06, 2012, 02:18:01 AM
Chasing bombs? I'm not saying go exclusively for bombs, but if you know something is coming up that you can't handle, an extra bomb will help you with that, not to mention dying with two bombs or less is a waste.

By chasing bombs I meant prioritizing green UFOs over red ones, my mistake; I agreed entirely with using bombs instead of dying.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 06, 2012, 02:33:54 AM
@Chisou Taizen
My remarks on your replay:

1. Wasted bomb on Yuyuko, it's not worth it, cause i see you can surely dodge all her spells.

2. Haven't used trance on first charged fairies of stage 2 wich is actually mandatory to do.

3. Then used trance on Midboss Kyouko and failed to refill it before final wave of fairies (wich you killed not fast enough). Remember a good trance route for stage 2 on hard and lunatic: Collect full trance before first wave of bomb/life-pieced fairies (that's easy) and thance them. Learn to capture Kyouko's midboss spell. It's nothing difficult, but if you're having problems - just bomb it. Recollect your trance before final wave of fairies with stuff and kill them fast so all of them will appear. You may use trance right after the first one. This will give you at least one more extra bomb on Kyouko boss fight wich you're pretty bad at >_< She actually have only two relative hard attacks - 2nd nonspell and 2nd spell, the rest is easy and must be captured. Tip on her last spell. Dont go up from bottom while misdirecting a bubble! The lower it spawns - the more bullets it takes back. Just alternate from one side to another and you'll be fine.

4. First big fairies of stage 3 shoot circles aimed at your position. So if you cant dodge them while flying all over the place - just stream them all from right side to left (where next little fairies spawn).

5. Kogasa must be killed as fast as possible for extra fairies after her to appear. You did it almost perfectly.

6. I hate Heal by Desire. And you failed at it pretty epically. Jsyk, it's much easier to time out than to capture. Just focus on killing familiars instead of Yoshika, preventing them from flooding screen with bullets. That's what i did on my no-bombs run and it worked pretty well. Good job on the rest of Yoshika fight ;)

7. Wtf were you doing at the start of stage 4? You'd better to get your full trance before midboss appears, and dont rush for bomb/life pieces covered by dense fairies's fire. Look for a proper way to do that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xhb4QAiB760#t=811s) (It's even easier with Reimu).

8. Once you're out of bombs but with full trance keep in mind that you can should use it in case of danger like Seiga/Yoshika last nonspell. Dying with full trance is one of the most unforgivable mistakes in this game. :fail: And remember, you can deathtrance too.

9. Practice their last spell Tao Taidou! I mean seriously, this is mandatory capture. It might look scary, but it's probably the easiest one of their cards. Look how i did it in my run.

10. When first big fairies of stage 5 appear - focus on killing them asap, so they wont flood the screen with bullets and such a silly death wont happen.

11. Good use of trance on fairies before Tojiko. But i advice to hold it as long as possible (until bomb/life pieces almost vanish) so you can do more damage safely.

12. Last part of the stage is very important. You can earn a lot of bombs if do it the proper way. First two rings of ghosts give you almost enough spirits for a full trance. You can complete it by some from the third ring, but at this moment it's better to go to the lower left corner and do it exactly like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pwc0W75Kg-c#t=754s). It's normal, but the route is the same. Carefully stream the bullets from last ring by ascending from the corner and kill first fairies consequentially. When you see first bomb piece almost vanished - use trance and kill the last fairies in a way shown - three on the left, three on the right, center one. You may also watch my lunatic run (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18922) where i did the same.

13. Iwafune Ascending to Heaven is Futo's hardest spell. But it could be done with only one bomb if you start by chasing her to the left, dealing as much damage as possible.

14. Derp on her third nonspell is really shameful. :ohdear:

15. Collecting bombs on stage 6 could be done better. And better get your full trance before Miko fight, so if you screw on one of her first attacks you can use it instead of bomb.

16. 3rd spell with ghosts and arrows. Do more damage to Miko, so it wont last that long. Also you'd better used your trance at that point, saving a bomb, instantly completing another one and almost neutering knives nonspell danger (though you captured it wich is good)

17. Game over on Guse Flash with a bomb in stock... Nuff said.

Overall conclusion: those silly derps cost you 1CC, while you were pretty close (but not as close as me, dying after Newborn Divine Spirit on lunatic :qq:). Also do a better work on collecting purple spirits under trance and you'll surely get 18-pieces extend.
Oh and pactice moar! Both stages and spellcards. Good luck ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 06, 2012, 02:45:49 AM
*still foaming at the mouth, collapsed on the table with his eyes rolled backwards into his head, reciting a satanic paragraph backwards*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 06, 2012, 02:53:13 AM
*still foaming at the mouth, collapsed on the table with his eyes rolled backwards into his head, reciting a satanic paragraph backwards*

They're not the best but if this is UFO we're talking Old clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17181), Recent clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18354). Look these over.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 06, 2012, 02:56:08 AM
Doesn't do much to help, I have a healthy and flexible UFO route.

The only reason I'm overreacting is because I CAN'T FUCKING DODGE FOR SHIT. THAT IS THE REASON I FAIL SO MUCH AT THIS GAME. I KNOW THIS GAME WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE A DOCUMENTARY ON EVERYTHING I HATE ABOUT IT

I WANT TO FUCKING DO HARD, LUNATIC, AND EXTRA JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT FUCKING GAME OUT OF MY SIGHT WITHOUT ME HAVING A GUILTED CONSCIENCE
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 06, 2012, 03:05:41 AM
Doesn't do much to help, I have a healthy and flexible UFO route.
Regardless of that, I still think you should look these over.

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The only reason I'm overreacting is because I CAN'T FUCKING DODGE FOR SHIT. THAT IS THE REASON I FAIL SO MUCH AT THIS GAME. I KNOW THIS GAME WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE A DOCUMENTARY ON EVERYTHING I HATE ABOUT IT
Another good reason to look the replays over, I'm really not trying to force them on you, but if you know the game well enough, and you know your playstyle as you should, then our advice should've helped you to clear the game already.

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I WANT TO FUCKING DO HARD, LUNATIC, AND EXTRA JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT FUCKING GAME OUT OF MY SIGHT WITHOUT ME HAVING A GUILTED CONSCIENCE

Easy there bro. Take it in steps. Focus on... well, Hard I guess, cause you didnt mention normal. Obviously start from normal first until you clear it if you havent, but, yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on March 06, 2012, 03:34:31 AM
@MMX

Wow, brutal honesty much? :getdown:

I did say that that was my first try~

It took me five tries to 1CC Normal m-

what the hell if I get hard mode in two tries there will be problems
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MMX on March 06, 2012, 03:53:15 AM
@MMX

Wow, brutal honesty much? :getdown:

I did say that that was my first try~

It took me five tries to 1CC Normal m-

what the hell if I get hard mode in two tries there will be problems
Oh lol. If it was your first try (i didnt noticed you mentioned it) than you're pretty good ;) But by following my advices you can do much better, so as i said good luck!
And dont forget that on hard/lunatic enemies drop more spirits than on easy/normal, so you can refill your trance more often.

P.S.: And it took me 4 tries to clear TD normal and about  2 months (i dunno how much tries) to clear TD hard. However, that was first time me trying something except touhou normal or extra. And that was second game i've played after EosD :)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on March 06, 2012, 06:22:18 AM
HA HA FUCK YOU ZUN FOR NOT MAKING A DO YOU REALLY WANT TO OVERWRITE THIS REPLAY WARNING OPTION LIKE ANY OTHER NORMAL GAME
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on March 06, 2012, 06:26:38 AM
Ummm...what did you overwrite in which game?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: pineyappled on March 06, 2012, 06:44:22 AM
My first PCB normal clear. In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have placed that first, but asdffffffffffffff;lkjas;d
Overwritten with a horrifyingly derped stage four run.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 06, 2012, 08:27:28 AM
I HATE YOU, BADLY-TIMED STOPPED BULLETS

I HATE YOU, PERFECT FREEZE

I HATE YOU, CIRNO
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 06, 2012, 09:16:43 AM
The only reason I'm overreacting is because I CAN'T FUCKING DODGE FOR SHIT. THAT IS THE REASON I FAIL SO MUCH AT THIS GAME. I KNOW THIS GAME WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE A DOCUMENTARY ON EVERYTHING I HATE ABOUT IT

Doesn't really sound like you know anything about the game to be honest. What is it even that you hate? Things that you can't dodge? In fact, yeah make that documentary.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Piranha on March 06, 2012, 10:18:49 AM
The only reason I'm overreacting is because I CAN'T FUCKING DODGE FOR SHIT. THAT IS THE REASON I FAIL SO MUCH AT THIS GAME. I KNOW THIS GAME WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE A DOCUMENTARY ON EVERYTHING I HATE ABOUT IT

If it's general dodging you have problems with, try the photography games, PoFV or Extra stages. All this helped me GREATLY increase my skill level.

Edit: I forgot your Rage over Shou in DS for a moment :V, so you have already tried that, it seems.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Scarlet Bellflower on March 06, 2012, 10:29:06 AM
The fact that I only have a chance on Easy really rustles my jimmies, especially when I get killed by Kappa "Giant Cucumber".
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 06, 2012, 11:14:38 AM
try the photography games, PoFV or Extra stages.

*FOOOOOAM*
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on March 06, 2012, 12:41:49 PM
Okay, this just isn't acceptable anymore. I tried to cope with it but assuming that this just gets worse I'll have to get a new one. Keyboard, it's not too bad if you assume that I really want to go into a certain direction, it's annoying but at least you're doing something. But completely locking up  (= no movement at all despite pressing a direction button) twice during the same bossfight while I actually want you to do something - just no. This is just making me paranoid at this point, I don't want this BS to screw me over in an actual 1cc-attempt.

Regarding the actual game: Why am I so bad at Aya's last spellcard? I always hear that it's her easiest but I've had more successful captures of "Peerless Wind God" than of "Terukuni Throughout the World". Heck, I'm more consistent with the waterfall portions and Momiji than that thing. Guess my timing is horrible.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Makai Butterfly on March 06, 2012, 02:39:52 PM
Regarding the actual game: Why am I so bad at Aya's last spellcard? I always hear that it's her easiest but I've had more successful captures of "Peerless Wind God" than of "Terukuni Throughout the World". Heck, I'm more consistent with the waterfall portions and Momiji than that thing. Guess my timing is horrible.  :V

Yeah, her last spell is a test in multitasking.  The best advice I have is to always keep yourself horizontally safe so that if you need to slide between the arrowhead streams that you won't run into one of the white dot bullets by accident.  Just move a bit vertically to pass one of the white dot waves before doing any horizontal stuff.  It's still a tricky spell, though.  As for Peerless Wind God, once you get over the "OMG CAN'T DISPEL ATTACK HALP!" mentality that usually happens the first few times and just dodge, it's not a bad card.

My rage of the day so far is Sanae Clipdeath Kochiya.  I hate that I have such a history of clipdeath on her that I almost auto-bomb some cards and nonspells during an actual run just to avoid the possibility.  I wish she'd get over her star fixation and give that back to Marisa.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on March 06, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
Yeah, her last spell is a test in multitasking.  The best advice I have is to always keep yourself horizontally safe so that if you need to slide between the arrowhead streams that you won't run into one of the white dot bullets by accident.  Just move a bit vertically to pass one of the white dot waves before doing any horizontal stuff.  It's still a tricky spell, though.
Would've been surprised if there's anything else. Yeah, that's what I'm doing, it's my timing that sucks. Horizontal dash - into a yellow arrowhead! Guess that calls for extended training...

... so embarassing. How I long for those days in which I felt moderately competent. Maybe I should go for another timeout so I can hide all my derp like I did before.  :V
As for Peerless Wind God, once you get over the "OMG CAN'T DISPEL ATTACK HALP!" mentality that usually happens the first few times and just dodge, it's not a bad card.
And hella fun. More of this please and not ...

Sanae Clipdeath Kochiya
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: I have no name on March 06, 2012, 03:46:37 PM
Would've been surprised if there's anything else. Yeah, that's what I'm doing, it's my timing that sucks. Horizontal dash - into a yellow arrowhead! Guess that calls for extended training...
I kept doing that, then I started moving down and sideways through the walls.  I very rarely get hit by the arrows on this card any more.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Sen on March 06, 2012, 04:17:08 PM
My first PCB normal clear. In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have placed that first, but asdffffffffffffff;lkjas;d
Overwritten with a horrifyingly derped stage four run.

Did you put it on Gensokyo.org's replay sharer? If so, just redownload it!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: qno2 on March 06, 2012, 04:32:22 PM
I kept doing that, then I started moving down and sideways through the walls.  I very rarely get hit by the arrows on this card any more.

I tried that just now: hey, got it on the first try. Thanks!  ;)  And all the rage dissipates, it's a beautiful thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Makai Butterfly on March 06, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
AHHHHHHHHH.... *sobs*

Two 1LC attempts in a row at IN Normal ended on Stage 6 at the opening set of fairies and then the point-whore fairies after them.  Kaguya, was it really necessary to spread all of those fairies out on opposite ends every time so I would have to weave through all the bullets over and over and over?  Screw IN.  I've been neglecting all the other games to get better at it and I'm tired of it.  Even the themes that I used to like sound annoying now, especially Marisa's theme because I am constantly singing along with it using the bawdy lyrics from the "Every Love-Colored Master Spark" video and end up derping while unfocused and trying to kill familiars. The first run I only captured Kaguya's "Cowrie Shell" spell but managed to pull off 4/5 last spells, screwing up on the Dawn one.  Then, last run, I limped to the finish after derping on the fairies twice and ended up capturing all five of Kaguya's "request" spells and then failing all but one of the last spells.  It's always one but not the other.  Screw it.  I'll come back to it in a week.

Maybe PCB will be more forgiving. (HA!)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: chirpy13 on March 06, 2012, 10:09:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/RDTs8.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 06, 2012, 10:56:11 PM
Why do all of the bosses in Mountain of Faith want to kill me?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 06, 2012, 11:00:34 PM
FUCK YOU HINA FUCK YOU NITORI FUCK YOU AYA FUCK YOU SANAE FUCK YOU KANAKO

FUCK LUNATIC FUCK MOUNTAIN OF FAITH'S IDIOTIC BOMB SYSTEM FUCK THE DAMN AMULET FAIRY IN STAGE 2 THAT MAKES ME WASTE ALL OF MY BOMBS BECAUSE I'M A GREEDY LITTLE BITCH WHEN IT COMES TO FAITH FARMING

FUCK REIMU B'S LACK OF SPREADING FUCK REIMU C'S LACK OF CONCENTRATED POWER FUCK REIMU A'S ANNOYING TENDENCY TO FIRE AT THE WRONG FUCKING FAIRY FUCK MARISA A FOR BEING STUPID FUCK MARISA B FOR THE DAMN LEVEL 3 GLITCH AND FUCK MARISA C FOR THE INCONSISTENT OPTION PLACEMENT THAT DRIVES ME FUCKING INSANE

Dear Shizuha "Wallmaster" Aki, Minoriko "Streambitch" Aki, Hina "Spinbitch" Kagiyama, Nitori "Cephalic Plate" Kawashiro, Aya "Stupid at the Speed of Light" Shameimaru, Sanae "Walltard" Kochiya, and Kanako "Fuck you" Yasaka,

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080918004818/uncyclopedia/images/b/b9/Kill_yourself.gif)

Signed, Esupanitix

On a lighter note, nothing! :D

What has everyone told you about doing this crap, stop it.

Now, mind showing us a replay of this run so we can help? (Well, maybe I can't but Zengeku and others surely can)
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 06, 2012, 11:02:30 PM
I have a habit about not saving replays of failure, sorry.

Next time I fail, I will. Sorry about the previous post.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 06, 2012, 11:05:53 PM
I have a habit about not saving replays of failure, sorry.

Next time I fail, I will. Sorry about the previous post.

You should be saving and uploading replays a little more often, and if you really want to save it, throw it in a different folder for archiving or something.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 06, 2012, 11:07:37 PM
Why do all of the bosses in Mountain of Faith want to kill me?

Because they are designed well obviously.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 06, 2012, 11:12:08 PM
Because they are designed well obviously.  :V

>Designed well
>Spinbitch kills me two times on one spellcard because a fire bullet was inside a fire bullet

>Designed well
>Minoriko's nonspells
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on March 07, 2012, 12:04:56 AM
The only thing wrong with Minoriko is spawning lasers on top of you. Her nonspells are amazingly well designed. :I
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Paper Conan on March 07, 2012, 04:22:26 AM
I got my keyboard to work again, and I honestly thought fighting Sanae, Lunatic, in MoF was a good idea. It was not.
Let's just say that even though I did decently good, I don't think I've ever heard myself scream/shout/yell so loudly before.

It was a fun experience, even though I wanted to ZA WARUDO my computer to death.
Ahh, touhou never does change, does it? <3
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: MTSranger on March 07, 2012, 07:04:55 AM
OMG UFO
Why do you give me such pains?!?!?!
Stage 1 - random deaths everywhere, sooooo many restarts (WHAT? I'm supposed to ND1B this)
Stage 2 - oh HAI Kogasa, just randomly clip me in your midboss spell and 2nd nonspell. Please! This is SO awesome!
Stage 3 - oh HAI surprise walls that can't be killed by anyone other than ReimuA Woohoo! Then, Ichirin just ruins everything by causing a death in the OPENER.
Stage 4 - die at midboss Nue. Seriously WHY? Of all times you could kill me, why do it in an actual run! I practiced you hundreds of times, and increased my capture rate to almost 90%, then you kill me in that 10% chance!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 07, 2012, 08:28:15 AM
>Designed well
>Spinbitch kills me two times on one spellcard because a fire bullet was inside a fire bullet

>Designed well
>Minoriko's nonspells

Cute. You seem to believe that you not being able to consistently capture the attacks makes them poorly designed huh? There is nothing wrong with either of the attacks that you mentioned. They are actually pretty easy by STG standards so get tougher and deal with it. I know you can do it.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 07, 2012, 11:07:27 AM
I was in the zone.

I was getting out of impossible situations during the entirety of Stage 3.

I perfected Cirno despite facing two waves of her opener, having Hailstorm change rank (and effectively double in speed) DURING THE CARD, getting out of luckfuckishly bad situations in Perfect Freeze, the like.

I was doing well on Meiling too.

Perfect opportunity to die on her finale, twice.


WHY? WHY DO I FIND A WAY TO RUIN RUNS EVEN WHEN I DO GOOD? I WAS DOING GOOD. I EVEN DERPED ON KOAKUMA LATER ON. AND ON THE FREE FAIRIES BEFORE PATCHOULI. WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

AAAAAAH IT'S LIKE THIS LUNATIC 1CC WILL NEVER HAPPEN OR SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THAT.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 11:43:45 AM
Cute. You seem to believe that you not being able to consistently capture the attacks makes them poorly designed huh? There is nothing wrong with either of the attacks that you mentioned. They are actually pretty easy by STG standards so get tougher and deal with it. I know you can do it.

I can understand you defending Minoriko's nonspells, I was just pissed off at that one, but I refuse to believe that Old Lady Ohgane's Fire was well designed when it has flourescent bullets on top of each other.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 07, 2012, 11:53:21 AM
I can understand you defending Minoriko's nonspells, I was just pissed off at that one, but I refuse to believe that Old Lady Ohgane's Fire was well designed when it has flourescent bullets on top of each other.

You'll need to back that up with a replay. I have never seen a situation that I couldn't handle or couldn't have been handled with proper playing. Perhabs sometimes It'll pull something unexpected but that's the sort of thing you need to be able to spot and then act accordingly.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 07, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
I can understand you defending Minoriko's nonspells, I was just pissed off at that one, but I refuse to believe that Old Lady Ohgane's Fire was well designed when it has flourescent bullets on top of each other.
There are plenty of worse attacks in the series, and even that game alone. Hell go look at Virtue of wind God on Ultra lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 07, 2012, 12:17:20 PM
I can understand you defending Minoriko's nonspells, I was just pissed off at that one, but I refuse to believe that Old Lady Ohgane's Fire was well designed when it has flourescent bullets on top of each other.

You have to be joking. This spellcard is mostly streaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-16EEv4u_ew&t=2m20s). This looks pretty mild, especially for Lunatic. Am I missing something here?

Your issue isn't with game design; it's with additive blend. And you're far from the first person to complain about that. Seems like ZUN isn't getting rid of AB anytime soon, though, so get used to it, I guess.

Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on March 07, 2012, 12:21:45 PM
It's not streaming at all, though it is fairly simple. One of the five spells I actually captured at 90fps. You should dodge at the places where the walls don't overlap, so you can't complain about a bullet hiding under another one.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 07, 2012, 12:30:44 PM
It's not streaming at all, though it is fairly simple.

Watching the video, the player moves away from the overlapping walls as they advance from the side, and a path opens up. Whatever you want to call it, yes, it's pretty simple alright.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: HyperGumba on March 07, 2012, 05:24:24 PM
Why?

Why does this stupid cat keep coming back?

Why did Orin take 5 of my seven lifes I've been collecting throughout five stages - just in her own boss battle?

Why did I die 3 times on Utsuho's Artificial Sun card three times, wasting my last life on the very last bit of the hell-raven's health?

Why does Normal SA Stage 5 have to be so freakin' hard to beat?  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: chirpy13 on March 07, 2012, 08:01:12 PM
Florescent bullets in general piss me off.  Hina's isn't so bad since the spell's pretty easy, but for the most part glowing bullets are a really dumb idea due to the distracting nature of them.  UFO stage 5 (including Naz's and some Shou's spells), Ichirin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_N4dXcrhO8#t=18s), Byakuren (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U9HmQntcMY#t=2m8s), and Miko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itt0BNGd1nk#t=2m12s) are good examples of what I mean here.  It just creates artificial difficulty that could easily be avoided by using similarly sized bullets that either aren't animated (http://i.imgur.com/vkAvn.png), or have a simple, non-distracting animation (http://i.imgur.com/ul0Tm.png).  It's even worse when it's in UFO, which is already a very difficult game.  On the plus side, I can't think of a single instance where ZUN's made a bad background.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 09:06:18 PM
There are plenty of worse attacks in the series, and even that game alone. Hell go look at Virtue of wind God on Ultra lunatic.

That's not in the game. That's a patched version of Mountain of Faith. Get it right.

I know there are worse attacks in the series but at least most are fair and hard FOR A GOOD REASON. Attacks that have flourescent fire bullets everywhere (MONONOBE HAS AN ATTACK LIKE THIS) piss me off because I can't track their movement too well when they're clumpy.

Your issue isn't with game design; it's with additive blend. And you're far from the first person to complain about that. Seems like ZUN isn't getting rid of AB anytime soon, though, so get used to it, I guess.

Still gonna complain about it.

Proof that it's the fire bullets that piss me off: I like Virtue of Wind God, it's fun to dodge and I can see where the amulets are going.
Illusionary Dominance, the bullets are weird as shit but at least you can see which bullets are which and where they go.
Spinning of the Cephalic Plates, at least the hitboxes aren't much different from squares in the needle bullets, and it's just streaming and dodging. (Minoriko's spell is bullshit because it has hard bullets to dodge AND streaming), and the bullets you "stream" are slow and clumpy which means if you do it right, you could start on the left side of the screen and capture while moving only right, up, and down.

Now for earlier games

Do I even need to talk about Merlin's first nonspells?
Sakuya why do you exist
Yuuka that was a jerk move why the massive lasers

Now for ACTUAL RAGE

FUCK YOU MIDBOSS NUE I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A NO UFO RUN AND YOU FUCKED IT UP I WAS SO FUCKING CLOSE I WAS SO FUCKING CLOSE I EVEN HIT THE FUCKING BOMB BUTTON -BEFORE- I GOT HIT
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 07, 2012, 09:21:02 PM
Esu, I was just wondering... what do you think about Midboss Nazrin's Greatest Treasure card?  :V

Florescent bullets in general piss me off.  Hina's isn't so bad since the spell's pretty easy, but for the most part glowing bullets are a really dumb idea due to the distracting nature of them. 

They are pretty though. Can be annoying at times but always pretty bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 09:26:11 PM
Esu, I was just wondering... what do you think about Midboss Nazrin's Greatest Treasure card?  :V

They are pretty though. Can be annoying at times but always pretty bullets.

About UFO's danmaku, I actually genuinely love that game's bullets. I only complain so much because WHY DO WE NEED TO CHASE UFOS FOR RESOURCES AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I think Greatest Treasure is fun to dodge. Spontaneous to a degree where I've been clipped a few times recently, but fun.

I adore all of Shou's spells except for the lightsabers of death because I keep getting clipped while running away from the laser walls, which is undeniably cheap. Her second nonspell can go fuck itself on Hard because it brings back memories of Double Spoiler 7-1's first phase :qq:

But yeah, the flourescent bullets are pretty but they love to clip me.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 07, 2012, 09:26:20 PM
Esu, I was just wondering... what do you think about Midboss Nazrin's Greatest Treasure card?  :V

They are pretty though. Can be annoying at times but always pretty bullets.
OR the entirety of Shou for that matter :V
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 09:31:08 PM
OR the entirety of Shou for that matter :V

Lol 9 second time differences
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 07, 2012, 09:44:38 PM
>Greatest Treasure

hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 09:50:23 PM
>Greatest Treasure

hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate

Hard/Lunatic version or all of them?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 07, 2012, 09:53:27 PM
Hard/Lunatic version or all of them?

At least on Normal it isnt as hard as Demon of Purification.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zil on March 07, 2012, 09:54:26 PM
Bomb it for extra UFOs.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 09:57:16 PM
At least on Normal it isnt as hard as Demon of Purification.

>Implying that Demon of Purification is incredibly hard
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 07, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
I hate it in general. Random glowing bullets in random directions. Examples are Shou's first/last cards and Futo's third, although Futo is crap easy anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: XephyrEnigma on March 07, 2012, 10:21:14 PM
>Implying that Demon of Purification is incredibly hard

>Implying you've even seen Radiant Treasure Gun aka same spell on Lunatic V:

I didnt say it was INCREDIBLY hard, mind you. just harder.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 07, 2012, 10:23:06 PM
Both of them are hate.

Random lasers don't help.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 10:36:29 PM
Both of them are hate.

Random lasers don't help.

>Random
>You can huddle at bottom on both versions and live no matter what because there are two laser sets that loop once they've both been played
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: BT on March 07, 2012, 10:45:41 PM
I meant random in the sense that they have no reason to be there. ^_^

Isn't the whole card static?
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 07, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
They are pretty though. Can be annoying at times but always pretty bullets.

That's pretty much where I'm at. Considering that Touhou's main draw, in terms of gameplay, are the patterns, I like pretty bullets. If I wanted to dodge monotone waves of pink bullets I'd play DDP.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 07, 2012, 10:53:58 PM
That game has blue, purple and i think green bullets too you know?  :V

Also, not really fair comparison given that it's from 1997. Compare DDP graphics to SoEW.
If you want to compare then look at things like Deathsmiles and DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu. Those games have really great aesthetics. This is not to spark some debate about Cave vs. Touhou again don't worry. I just wanted to point out that the Cave games are quite the eye candy nowadays.

If you were actually talking about current-gen games then just disregard this.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 07, 2012, 10:58:21 PM
That game has blue, purple and i think green bullets too you know?  :V

Oh, I know, just making a half-assed joke. The main point is if Touhou's gameplay draw is the patterns, then I expect the bullets to be pretty to look at. I don't want flat, ordinary, oh-look-it's-these-bullets-again bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Zengeku on March 07, 2012, 10:59:51 PM
I get you. Touhou's patterns are pretty appealing. At least the late generation ones.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Esper on March 07, 2012, 11:43:01 PM
If I wanted to dodge monotone waves of pink bullets I'd play DDP.

Sometimes I do play that (I don't has the moneys to buy Fukkatsu or Mushihimesama Futari, so I'm stuck with what games my cousin got me for my birthday, which would be Touhou games 6-12.8, and I somehow got my grandfather out of Paypal Paranoia and got him to buy 13 for me, which I regret partially), and I still hate it for how monotonous it is.

EDIT:

OH GOD IT'S SO FUNNY AND WHEN I SAY FUNNY I MEAN FUN-NY TO LOSE AT SUBTERRANEAN ANIMISM'S EXTRA STAGE REPEATEDLY

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HAD TO RESTART FROM DYING ON THE BIG FAIRY SECTION BECAUSE I'M SUCH A POWER-GRABBING WHORE? IF THERE WERE A COUNTER FOR EVERY SINGLE PLOTTED EVENT IN A STAGE, I'D BE WAY UP INTO THE THOUSANDS AREA FOR REIMU A.

OH OH THEN THERE'S THE AMOUNT OF FUCKING TIMES I'VE DIED TO THE EIGHT-DIRECTION KUNAI FAIRIES BECAUSE I KEEP FUCKING GETTING CLIPPED WHILE TRANSITIONING TO THE NEXT FAIRY BECAUSE LIKE BEFORE I'M A POWER-GRABBING WHORE.

LET'S NOT FORGET THE THIRD CARD FROM SANAE THAT I -REFUSE- TO SAFESPOT BECAUSE I CAN NEVER REMEMBER WHERE THAT SAFESPOT IS (Exact location). I CAPTURE IT ABOUT AS OFTEN AS THE AVERAGE TOUHOU PLAYER CAPTURES MERLIN'S FIRST NONSPELL ON THEIR CURRENT DIFFICULTY AVERAGE, I COULD TELL YOU THIS:

(http://puu.sh/jSdO)

Read the above for whining about SA's Extra Stage

Honestly, I hate the Extra Stages of everything past Mountain of Faith. UFO's Extra Stage is annoying, SA's is unfair as fuck compared to the others (Ancestors Standing Beside Your Bed is KOISHI'S FIRST CARD), and TD is a bitch, playing the "LOLOLOLOL NO RESOURCES GAIZ" card.

I think ZUN should go back to the fun, less "KOISHI WILL EAT YOUR SOUL wwwwwwww" Extra Stages. I liked EoSD because it had its own little brand of gameplay without any god damn gimmicks and that played well in the extra stage, same with PCB though its gimmick was little to nothing, practically made the game easier, And IN doesn't pull dick moves with its gimmicks. The most it ever does is make it so that you can't gain time points. Big whoop, they were just gimmicks that altered scoring. Same with MoF, nothing GAMEPLAY-INTENSIVE and I could say the same with SA, though its extra stage is still a dick move by ZUN.

Now for the two gimmick games that hate you.

UFO has the UFO system, which means that unless you want to go into a hard Extra Boss with less resources than what you get in TD, you have to chase UFOs though dense bullets, then dance like a fucktard against that retarded umbrella, then more fairies (I FUCKING HATE FAIRIES except for Cirno), then an annoying lion snake thing in the form of a teenage goth girl with six wings that will blow the fuck out of your shit anyway.

TD has not only the fact that its arrow bullets are dicks when in clumps (WHERE ARE THE HITBOXES), it's like trying to go into a stack of needles to find one shred of hay, but THEN, THEN we get to the fact that YOSHIKA LOVES BLOCKING AND ASSISTING SEIGA NYANNYAN KAKU WITH ATTACKS IN ANNOYING FUCKING WAYS KNOWN AS SLOW FUCKING BULLETS. I'll admit, for this game I will understand WHY ZUN made it so that every time you gained a life off of spirits, you would need more for the next and so on and so forth, but CAP THE FUCKING DEMAND NUMBERS DO YOU KNOW HOW STUPID IT IS TO MAKE SOMEONE GO AFTER SIXTEEN SPIRITS FOR ONE LIFE (Lunatic players for this game may agree with me on this.)? Another problem: Why does Yoshika have the ability to absorb her own fucking spirits to recover life? Is that just ZUN trying to be a jerk?

Rant over. I'd like to enjoy my 85 minutes before I have to go to bed in a good enough way that I can fully get over failing like an absolute fucktard.
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Tengukami on March 08, 2012, 03:08:53 PM
Last. :smug:
Title: Re: Touhou Rage Thread XI Online
Post by: Sapz on March 08, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
Post-last. 8)