Author Topic: Let's Discuss Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Happiest Anime Ever (Read 104935 times)

Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin · « **Reply #60 on:** April 30, 2011, 07:24:10 AM »

Now that I understand the full ramifications of the "deconstruction" bit, I think I just might be able to get into Madoka. From a distance, though, I don't think I could actually watch it.

Tengukami · « **Reply #61 on:** April 30, 2011, 12:03:09 PM »

To be honest, I would scroll past the OP every time. I just thought it was a wholly forgettable, generic anime opening.

lumber_of_the_beast · « **Reply #62 on:** April 30, 2011, 04:26:01 PM »

So, I think I'm actually going to get around to watching it now.

Which fansub group do you guys like? I was gonna go with yesy, but they've yet to release subs of episodes 11 and 12, so... :V

Tengukami · « **Reply #63 on:** April 30, 2011, 04:41:27 PM »

I went with Chihiro and gg myself.

JT · « **Reply #64 on:** April 30, 2011, 04:49:10 PM »

Quote from: JT on April 30, 2011, 05:08:18 AM

I actually just started downloading the first few episodes of this. I never really paid any attention to it while it was airing. I figured it was just some generic ~~pedo~~ magical girl thing like Nanoha, but one of my friends was like "NO SERIOUSLY BRO DUDE IT'S COOL WATCH IT SERIOUSLY BRO IT'S GOOD" and now I've finally caved. So... I guess we'll see what happens.

OK, so I just watched the first 3 episodes. Here's how it went:

"Am I really about to sit here and watch a fucking magical girl show? [Friend] is probably trolling the shit out of me."
(OP starts up)
"baaaarrrf"

3 episodes later:

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So yeah, my preconceived notions about this show were pretty wrong. If my friend WAS trolling me, then the joke's on him because I'm actually enjoying it. I especially like the trippy witch barrier sequences.

Tengukami · « **Reply #65 on:** April 30, 2011, 04:52:03 PM »

I was totally the same way. I watched the first episode and was like, "Pfft, dropped. Right after I get some insulin." But then after much convincing, I marathoned the series and was completely turned around.

lumber_of_the_beast · « **Reply #66 on:** April 30, 2011, 05:41:09 PM »

hah hah, oh wow

ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #67 on:** April 30, 2011, 05:41:44 PM »

Madoka is a trap, really. But the best trap you've ever fallen for, in my opinion. :3

Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin · « **Reply #68 on:** April 30, 2011, 10:36:44 PM »

Quote from: lumber_of_the_beast on April 30, 2011, 05:41:09 PM

hah hah, oh wow

That made me burst out laughing.

ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #69 on:** April 30, 2011, 10:45:34 PM »

Quote from: lumber_of_the_beast on April 30, 2011, 05:41:09 PM

hah hah, oh wow

Want.

DX7.EP · « **Reply #70 on:** April 30, 2011, 10:53:43 PM »

Quote from: lumber_of_the_beast on April 30, 2011, 05:41:09 PM

hah hah, oh wow

Hope there was a guaranteed contract of taste with these!

This was hilarious. My interest in Madoka just jumped up a bit more.

Firestorm29 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:15:43 PM »

I got done watching this a few days ago. I'm just outright shocked how it went, it just kept on making twists I never saw coming.

ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #72 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:58:28 PM »

That, my friend, is the essence of Madoka. Plot twists that leave you upside down and backwards.

JT · « **Reply #73 on:** May 01, 2011, 05:08:45 PM »

"...What the hell are you watching?"
"Oh this? It's a cartoon for psychotic pedophiles. Want to watch it with me?"
"OK."

So yeah, just finished this last night. Some impressions:

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ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #74 on:** May 01, 2011, 05:17:51 PM »

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Moerin · « **Reply #75 on:** May 01, 2011, 05:27:55 PM »

Quote from: JT on May 01, 2011, 05:08:45 PM

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Actually, is it just me, or is Kyubey basically the Anti-Spiral? Only the protagonists just kind of reluctantly go along for the ride with him instead of just being like "FUCK YEAH WE'RE GONNA KICK YOUR ASS SUCKA"

Oh thank god I'm not the only one who sees it. From the moment

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I thought the two were basically the same thing.

...Also Mami is older than Madoka, and Madoka is apparently 14, so... Probably doesn't make it that much better, but still. >.>

Jana · « **Reply #76 on:** May 01, 2011, 05:46:41 PM »

I think you told it to me best, JT.

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If I drew a picture of a hot anime girl and told you she was a chicken, does that mean you're into chickens?

Don't worry about finding characters attractive for whatever reason. I like Mami a lot too.

JT · « **Reply #77 on:** May 01, 2011, 06:27:30 PM »

Thanks. I know, I just like to kid. :derp:

Iryan · « **Reply #78 on:** May 01, 2011, 06:35:24 PM »

Quote from: JT on May 01, 2011, 05:08:45 PM

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Faust much?

You have no idea.

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Kyubey is an evil little prick, and the true antagonist of the story. I don't really understand how people can see any kind of moral ambiguity in his character.

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:V

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I guess I'm a pedophile now.

I do not think you know what that word means. :derp:
Since you are attracted to her because of the things about her that are not childlike, your statement is the opposite of true. :]

ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #79 on:** May 01, 2011, 06:38:14 PM »

Anyone notice that

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:V

Read about it in some other forum. :derp:

JT · « **Reply #80 on:** May 01, 2011, 07:01:15 PM »

Quote from: Iryan on May 01, 2011, 06:35:24 PM

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For one, if he cannot experience emotions, he cannot understand the suffering the girls go through and thus would not see it as anything too bad. Also, heat death of the universe would be pretty bad for anyone, so preventing that is, on the cosmic scale, a good thing.
He is the villain, but he is not evil, no matter how much I want to punch the little fucker.
:V

It's like I said, though. He must have some concept of fear and suffering, because he resists death. Besides, by that logic, couldn't we just as easily say Jame Gumb isn't evil, since he's a psychopath who doesn't think of his victims as people?

Jana · « **Reply #81 on:** May 01, 2011, 07:12:15 PM »

Animals can feel pain and pleasure and know to avoid death, but I wouldn't say that they're capable of real emotions the way humans are. I definitely see your point though.

Iryan · « **Reply #82 on:** May 01, 2011, 07:17:21 PM »

Quote from: JT on May 01, 2011, 07:01:15 PM

It's like I said, though. He must have some concept of fear and suffering, because he resists death. Besides, by that logic, couldn't we just as easily say Jame Gumb isn't evil, since he's a psychopath who doesn't think of his victims as people?

We can get into a semantic argument about the precise definition of "evil", but I don't think this is what you intend.

Besides, the main point still stands. It is one of the classic moral dilemmas.

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JT · « **Reply #83 on:** May 01, 2011, 08:01:44 PM »

Quote from: Iryan on May 01, 2011, 07:17:21 PM

We can get into a semantic argument about the precise definition of "evil", but I don't think this is what you intend.

Semantic? All I'm suggesting is that a lack of a capacity for guilt doesn't necessarily absolve someone of accountability for their actions. I don't really see where semantics comes into that.

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Besides, the main point still stands. It is one of the classic moral dilemmas.
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Suffering of the few innocent vs death for the masses.

Even then, though, I can't sympathize with his actions because it's a false dichotomy.

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Iryan · « **Reply #84 on:** May 01, 2011, 08:19:56 PM »

Quote from: JT on May 01, 2011, 08:01:44 PM

Semantic? All I'm suggesting is that a lack of a capacity for guilt doesn't necessarily absolve someone of accountability for their actions. I don't really see where semantics comes into that.

Is it "evil" if you do something that you perceive as good even if it is bad? If you think you save somebodie's life but instead you kill somebody, was that act evil?
And it is not the lack for a capability of guilt, it is the lack for a capability to see what is wrong with your action.

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You do not see how it is semantics? Whether or not

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Some definitions would fit, some would not.

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Even then, though, I can't sympathize with his actions because it's a false dichotomy.
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Is the threat of heat death really so imminent that they must resort to such an inhumane solution immediately? Why not wait and search for an alternative? We know for a fact that there's a shitzillion years left until energy really starts getting scarce. What's the big rush?

He supposedly knows alot more than we know, and the perceived distance of the event might be because of his actions in the first place. Not to mention that how close real life science applies to the setting of the anime is questionable, considering

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as well as, you know, the existence of magic. :derp:

Drake · « **Reply #85 on:** May 01, 2011, 09:58:56 PM »

Quote from: nekorandomnessqueen on May 01, 2011, 06:38:14 PM

Anyone notice that
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The first girl Madoka saves is Orinko, from the prequel manga Orinko Magica?
:V

Read about it in some other forum. :derp:

It isn't Oriko. They just went "lol green hair = IT'S ORIKO" but no it isn't. You can compare the two yourself.

ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #86 on:** May 02, 2011, 12:22:41 AM »

Quote from: Drake on May 01, 2011, 09:58:56 PM

It isn't Oriko. They just went "lol green hair = IT'S ORIKO" but no it isn't. You can compare the two yourself.

Oh, you're right.

Lexicat · « **Reply #87 on:** May 02, 2011, 01:19:10 AM »

being meguca is suffering.

Wisp · « **Reply #88 on:** May 02, 2011, 01:27:23 AM »

Quote from: Lady Lambdadelta on May 02, 2011, 01:19:10 AM

being meguca is suffering.

DO NOT THROW SOULS
Btw, Madoka + Inception <3

ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #89 on:** May 02, 2011, 01:31:44 AM »

Quote from: Soot Sprite on May 02, 2011, 01:27:23 AM

Madoka + Inception <3

...Now I actually want to see Inception. :derp: