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[OkashiiKisei]

I actually preferred FE8 due to the possibilities of training and the wider range of classes and customization, and storage was way easier to manage, having less risk of dumping valuable stuff. I could never beat FE7 due to me screwing up my character levels and being unable to train after that. FE7 was longer though, and its story was more compelling.

* Moerin checks thread and sees no-one's called main villain yet.

So... Yeah~  Calling main villain, if that's okay~

...If not, uh, one of the main characters, I dunno.

If Moerin's the main villain (and thus the Dark Druid) I wanna be the final boss Demon King/Great Dragon that he tries to summon at the end of the game. Calling it now, if that isn't a problem. :3

Otherwise, I would want be the complete monster villain that is part of the elite team of the main villain and who everyone despises. Every Fire Emblem has one. :V My class would be a high level Druid. 'Cuz dark magic rocks.

[Hello Purvis]

I want to be in the credits.

I want to be the only person in the credits.

[trancehime]

@General Okashii - Well you are going to be nothing like your broken-ass-shit Ijiyatsu self, that's for sure. If you're even the final monster dude, that is. If we even HAVE one. Importance is storyline first, then we can deal with the role giving later.

@Purvis - Don't pull an MDickie pls

[Hello Purvis]

It'll be different because I'm awesome.

Also I called dibs.

[OkashiiKisei]

@General Okashii - Well you are going to be nothing like your broken-ass-shit Ijiyatsu self, that's for sure. If you're even the final monster dude, that is. If we even HAVE one. Importance is storyline first, then we can deal with the role giving later.

Well, yes, I assumed the characters will mainly have the skills of their class, and not their Iji-character (otherwise the game would start resemble Disgaea instead of Fire Emblem :V). I figured only the personalities and physical appearances would be carried over from Iji. The bosses need to be beatable of course.

If everyone had their abilities the character power levels would be like this:

TSO, Okashii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moerin, Letty, Slaves, Mode >>>> Ruro, Mats and other mods >>>>>>>> Zengar, GPop, Rou, Skye and other player/broken characters >>>>>>> Balanced characters >>>>> Mooks

That wouldn't be a very balanced game :ohdear:

(Maybe I should slightly nerf my Iji character...)

[Fightest]

Also I called dibs.

I'm going to be semantic and remind you that you did not actually call dibs. Thus ergo therefore apropos neener neener. I am Zoolord Poopsmell

[purvis]Shocking! [/purvis]

[Pesco]

Take that power level crap elsewhere. In RPG, I'm the boss :smug:

[OkashiiKisei]

Take that power level crap elsewhere. In RPG, I'm the boss :smug:

Well, it was just a general example. A means to exemplify how unbalanced the game would be if everyone had their abilities. It isn't really thought out either. Just made on a whim.

And yes, you are the boss here, Pesco.

[Dead Princess Sakana]

I won't make any promises yet, but if anything I could try to help with plot and writing (more writing than plot-design, since inspiration is my weak point >_> )

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

If everyone had their abilities the character power levels would be like this:

TSO, Okashii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moerin, Letty, Slaves, Mode >>>> Ruro, Mats and other mods >>>>>>>> Zengar, GPop, Rou, Skye and other player/broken characters >>>>>>> Balanced characters >>>>> Mooks

That wouldn't be a very balanced game :ohdear:

Purvis probably has the highest power level considering that his ability is "Manipulation of manipulation" (which is pretty much Yukari level in terms of vagueness and potential when you consider how everybody but Skye's abilities are called "manipulation")

Good thing he's only in the credits!

[OkashiiKisei]

Purvis probably has the highest power level considering that his ability is "Manipulation of manipulation" (which is pretty much Yukari level in terms of vagueness and potential when you consider how everybody but Skye's abilities are called "manipulation")

Good thing he's only in the credits!

Hmm? Last time I checked he had 'manipulation of psychology' or something like that. Last minute character change?

And well, since my character can copy everyone's abilities and a percentage of their powerlevel (including Purvis's), she'd never be far away from the top. Sure, he starts out as the most pathetic character of them all (not even having a human form at the start), but once she has everyone's powers she puts even Meta Knight to shame in sheer brokenness. Also note she can screw around with everyone's bodies from the inside. And my character doesn't have the word 'manipulation' in her ability.

Yup, I need to nerf her.

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Oi, enough talk of powers that have nothing to do with this project here.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

It was changed :V Check the information topic

Okashii is a Commando. Too bad they're not in FE7.

[Rikter]

Yes an FE7 Base... Also Anathe and Tylt would make perfect Pegesus Knights if thats what Sana ends up as.

Also we should improve the EXP given from Staves in this.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

I want to be a Monk (or a Cleric, if Monks aren't allowed to be lolis).

Base stats: Level 1, 17/5/4/6/5/2/5
Growths: 55/45/50/50/15/35/50

[Rikter]

Playable Non-Promotes have up to 280% worth of stat growth

Looks like an Oifeys Archetype. Which brings the point should we have a Jeigan Archetype?

[Sana]

About the plot, here's a summary of what we're considering(from IRC):
-Begins lighthearted, becomes srs bsns as time goes on
-Setting is medieval aka, swords, castles, etc.
-No Ijipowers or anything, just forum users FE style
-A fighting tournament set up as the "tutorial" mode of the game, with no perma-deaths, hosted by two countries
-The two nations are manipulated into war with each other by a third country(big bad with aims for world conquest)

I might've missed something so feel free to correct me :S

[communist unity (comm-unity)]

Finally got around to not being lazy and did some basic stats for me  :derp:

(F) Mage - Level 1
Base: 18/4/5/7/6/2/4
Growths: 50/40/60/45/55/15/35

Hopefully this isn't hideously broken or craptastic, but I don't -think- it is, anyways. (I could be wrong)

[Rikter]

I looked into several utilities today. Nightmare seems like it can do most of what we need i'll just need to play with it when I have some more time.

I'll post some results of a test I did with it tomorrow.

[trancehime]

I can help with Nightmare editing if need be, but I'll be more focused on management/administration and the story aspects

[Hello Purvis]

Hmm? Last time I checked he had 'manipulation of psychology' or something like that. Last minute character change?

Hi, derail.

Actually, it's a last minute correction. I have no clue where the psychology thing came from. Valentia mentioned it to me a few weeks back.



Back on topic: Dibs are intact.

[Seian Verian]

Okay. So, as discussed on IRC, here are my stats.

Base:

Level: 1 HP: 23 Str: 9  Skl: 5  Spd: 7 Lck: 1 Def: 2  Res: 4

Growths:

HP: 65%  Str: 45%   Skl : 50%  Spd :  55%  Lck: 5% Def :  40%  Res: 40%

Promotion bonuses for custom class:

HP: +2 Str: +1  Skl: +3 Spd: +1 Lck: +0 Def: +2  Res: +1

Said custom class is gonna use swords, and promote to use Dragonstones, if things go according to plan. Don't worry, Dragonstone won't have insane stat bonuses xP

Details such as caps and class name still to be worked out.

[theshirn]

whoa whoa whoa

Promoted unit with Dragonstones = VERY bad idea, even without stat boosts.

[Seian Verian]

whoa whoa whoa

Promoted unit with Dragonstones = VERY bad idea, even without stat boosts.

Why? If the innate stats of a typical Dragonstone are too high, those can be edited, can't they? Mostly, I just want it because changing into a dragon is awesome, I don't really need it to be that high powered...

[trancehime]

whoa whoa whoa

Promoted unit with Dragonstones = VERY bad idea, even without stat boosts.

The idea was to have a really early mamkute or a dragonman

My shitty self insert, it's up to us what we're going to do with it

Troubadour
Lv1 (obtainment stats/others can be worked out)
HP 14/STR 3/SKL 5/SPD 7/LCK 7/DEF 2/RES 5
[Lv3 stats]
HP 15/STR 4/SKL 6/SPD 8/LCK 8/DEF 2/RES 6
60%/40%/40%/60%/60%/10%/30%
Standard Troubadour --> Valkyrie caps/promo bonuses

[Spidere]

Well, I could help with the plot, maybe sort it out, or write. I'd be willing to work in collaboration with Sakana on that.

And I call mage kni-

Wait, those aren't in 7, are they?  :3

Err...Monk or Mage for me.

Really, just PM me what you need done, and I could get right to work on an organized script.

[theshirn]

The idea was to have a really early mamkute or a dragonman

My shitty self insert, it's up to us what we're going to do with it

Troubadour
Lv1 (obtainment stats/others can be worked out)
HP 14/STR 3/SKL 5/SPD 7/LCK 7/DEF 2/RES 5
[Lv3 stats]
HP 15/STR 4/SKL 6/SPD 8/LCK 8/DEF 2/RES 6
60%/40%/40%/60%/60%/10%/30%
Standard Troubadour --> Valkyrie caps/promo bonuses

1) I'm not sure if this is the case for FE7 Dragonstones, but I think at least some of the boosts are innate to the item (see: Uberspear) and may not be easily accessible/editable.
2) Everyone wants to be a dragon all the time, do we REALLY need to bring that into here?
3) A promoted dragon unit would operate outside the triangle with no downsides, lolbalance?

I also note that your self insert looks suspiciously like Priscilla. :V

[Dead Princess Sakana]

About the plot, here's a summary of what we're considering(from IRC):
-Begins lighthearted, becomes srs bsns as time goes on
-Setting is medieval aka, swords, castles, etc.
-No Ijipowers or anything, just forum users FE style
-A fighting tournament set up as the "tutorial" mode of the game, with no perma-deaths, hosted by two countries
-The two nations are manipulated into war with each other by a third country(big bad with aims for world conquest)

I might've missed something so feel free to correct me :S

Any ideas for the countries names yet? Should they be MotK-inspired as well or original?

Also, it would probably be a good idea if the starting characters and overall main characters (both good and evil) were to be decided on before any story-writing takes place.

[Seian Verian]

3) A promoted dragon unit would operate outside the triangle with no downsides, lolbalance?

If the stats of the item can be edited, it could potentially be severely weakened so that even swords might be more powerful and accurate. Though that seems like overkill, since I don't see why avoiding the weapon triangle would be such a huge deal anyway. Um, yeah, it affects damage taken by one point, and accuracy by fifteen, but that's not really an insane amount. Lances will still remain more accurate than axes too, while axes will gain a little bit more power and accuracy back as well, opposed to if the character were using swords.

If switching back to a sword is an issue, then, well... I think Rikter mentioned it locking the unit out of using anything else if they can use Dragonstones when he was messing around with Nightmare. I would be willing to go with that happening on promotion.

[trancehime]

1) I'm not sure if this is the case for FE7 Dragonstones, but I think at least some of the boosts are innate to the item (see: Uberspear) and may not be easily accessible/editable.
2) Everyone wants to be a dragon all the time, do we REALLY need to bring that into here?
3) A promoted dragon unit would operate outside the triangle with no downsides, lolbalance?

I also note that your self insert looks suspiciously like Priscilla. :V

1) These can be easily fixed via the FE7 Nightmare Modules
2) Nah, it's just ShiningDrake, and we can circumvent that if we have to
3) Dragonstones, again, can be edited/hacked to suit balance needs. Either that or we make enemies ridiculously tough - I know some hacks with early chapter enemies sporting 40+ HP and 15+ stats all across the board.

@comment:
Priscilla's growths - 45/40/50/40/65/15/50
Priscilla's Lv3 bases - 16/6/6/8/7/3/6
Mine - 60/40/40/60/60/10/30
Mine (Lv3) - 15/4/6/8/8/2/6

Early bases are fairly similar, but the growths are vastly different - mine's going to hit the speed cap very fast if you're not unlucky, is more evasive, but has less raw durability than Priscilla (higher HP, but less DEF, it is Mage-level), hard as it is to believe. Also, lower STR and SKL. Shitty self-insert does have the added bonus of being able to double fairly late and has a decent LUK stat, average of 27~ 29/30.

Of course this can be adjusted depending on how we balance enemies

Well, I could help with the plot, maybe sort it out, or write. I'd be willing to work in collaboration with Sakana on that.

Really, just PM me what you need done, and I could get right to work on an organized script.

If you really want to contribute, please set #EasyFE on irc.dejatoons.net to Autojoin. This is a collaborative effort and as much as I appreciate more helping hands, we need to get to a consensus on this.