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Title: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Pesco on April 01, 2011, 08:57:12 AM
You bums with blue names are a boring bunch that do nothing. Maybe we'll get a fiery new challenger that'll shake things up out of this.

183
642
507

Name the touhou and the full reasoning. Correct answer to both parts promotes you up to IM. Partial correct answers let's you move up 1 rank. If the winner already holds IM, they may nominate someone to promote. Post your answers here, spamming guesses will be penalised.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Yukarin on April 01, 2011, 09:06:32 AM
Hmm, a magic square.

I'd say Cirno, but I'm not quite sure why.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Whatthe on April 01, 2011, 09:16:08 AM
I remember this! Never did get an answer...well, time to sniff around the old thread for clues! (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8380.msg548439.html#msg548439)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 01, 2011, 09:19:47 AM
No shit bro! That's why I'm re-using it ::)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: trancehime on April 01, 2011, 09:36:58 AM
I wonder if there's a particular reason why Teitei decided it'd be a good idea to take the same magic square and flip it upside down

I should try looking at it as if it were a matrix and see what things I get from it
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Yukarin on April 01, 2011, 09:43:28 AM
Magic square. Horizontally, diagonally, or vertically, it adds up to 12.

There are 3 rows and columns. Each row and column adds 12, so if we add the answer of the three rows, that's 36. If we add the two digits of that, that is 9. Not to mention that 36 is divisible by 9.

3 rows again. Each row adds up to 12. We add the two digits and the answer is 3. Ditto for the other two rows. Add that and it becomes 9. Also that 3 is the square root of 9.

I'll think of more theories as to why Cirno's the answer but yeah. Goddamit, I wish I wasn't spouting out random nonsense.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 01, 2011, 09:46:54 AM
Okay, so the sum is 12.
Clearly this is referring to Touhou 12.
Which character is currently running rampant on these forums from Touhou 12?
Kogasa Tatara.
It just so happens that Pesco is also using this character for his avatar.
Coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Rin Kagamine on April 01, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: Caedo on April 01, 2011, 09:46:54 AM
Okay, so the sum is 12.
Clearly this is referring to Touhou 12.
Which character is currently running rampant on these forums from Touhou 12?
Kogasa Tatara.
It just so happens that Pesco is also using this character for his avatar.
Coincidence? I think not.
Don't be hatin' cause you missed the Kogasa boat!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 01, 2011, 09:53:44 AM
I-it's not like I cried myself to sleep when I couldn't join you guys or anything.
I mean, w-why would I even want to be a part of that?
T-the only reason I-I even looked at it was because I was pitying all of you.
W-what? Don't give me that look!
Y-y-you're misunderstanding!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Sophilia on April 01, 2011, 10:17:37 AM
Here's my half-assed go at it.

The sum is 12.
There are 8 ways to make it.
8 x 12 = 96.
96 can be factored into 2^5 x 3.
2^5 x 3...The fifth power of two, and also three...
So I guess Mima.  L5 boss of SoEW, and in PoDD.
This also factors into why the riddle has the form it does - Mima is in Mystic Square as well.
(and then she was KILL BY YUKARI)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Helix ⑨ on April 01, 2011, 11:11:08 AM
It is Cirno

Rows, columns and diagonals add up to 12. Furthermore we know that cirno cannot count and that 9 is the only number not present. This topic was posted in Cirno's forum and fairy wars was part of the 12th touhou generation (12.8).

1   8   3    -> 1 playable character, 8 characters (cirno, marisa, 3 fairies, 3 midbosses), 3 main routes
6   4   2    -> ....
5   0   7    -> 5 difficulties (easy, normal, hard, lunatic, extra), 7 routes (A1,2,B1,2,C1,2,Extra)

I'm too lazy (read: stupid) to think of more hidden secrets -> more proof dat this is an idiot's doing.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Whatthe on April 01, 2011, 12:00:22 PM
Okay, I've got a theory. First, the old stuff I'm building on:

Quote from: Creator of Doll.S on February 08, 2011, 10:23:39 AM
The answer is 12. No matter which direction, everything adds up to 12.
Quote from: Sectimonious on February 10, 2011, 08:06:36 PM
I'll go further with Doll's theory: each line, when added up, equals twelve. The digital root of twelve is three. There are a number of eight lines, including diagonals, so [other stuff I'm not using in my theory]

The three numbers we've got here are 12, 3 and 8. TH12.3 and TH12.8 had one game between them, TH12.5 Double Spoiler. Replacing the numbers in the square with Double Spoiler's bosses by stage produces this:

1 (Minoriko & Shizuha)   8 (Rin & Utsuho)   3 (Yamame & Kogasa & Kisume)
6 (Yuugi & Suika)   4 (Nitori & Momiji)   2 (Parsee & Hina)
5 (Ichirin & Murasa)   0   7 (Shou & Nazrin)

This arrangement is almost balanced, but not quite. There's no Stage 0, and Stage 3 has one more boss than the others. But if Unzan is counted separately from Ichirin, then Stage 5 also has one boss too many, conveniently leaving us with two out-of-place bosses to move to "Stage 0."

Out of the three Stage 3 bosses, Kogasa is clearly the one out of place. The odd boss out of Stage 5 could be any of the three, but it doesn't even matter?a combination of Kogasa (umbrella) and either Ichirin (hood), Unzan (cloud) or Murasa (water) would, more or less, indicate rain. And who in Touhou is most associated with rain?

Quote from: Touhou Wiki - Marisa Kirisame
The characters for Kirisame literally mean "drizzle" or "misty rain".
Quote from: Touhou Wiki - Marisa Kirisame
Speaking of rain, "drizzle" is Marisa's associated weather in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

Marisa Kirisame!

And there are other things possibly pointing to her:

Now, I am aware that Pesco said (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8380.msg550680.html#msg550680) in the old thread that the answer is simpler than Sect's Merlin theory (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8380.msg550656.html#msg550656) (which was less complicated than this Marisa theory). And since I know that, there are two possibilities:

:dwialpha:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on April 01, 2011, 12:03:24 PM
Treat the numbers as games, and replace them with the initials of said games.
Then we get

HIP
ELS
MMP

(Mountain of Faith was used for 0, because it's 10.)

HIP = Part of the human body. Big hips imply big breasts.
ELS = Encyclopedia of Life Sciences - Covering everything that is NOT an unusual phenomena
MMP = Perhaps a shortened form of 'mmph', more drunken onomatopoeia.

Reading down:
HEM = To sew something together - say, a skirt.
ILM = Institute of Leadership and Management - suggesting, for example, a high ranking member of the race
PSP = The Playstation Portable - A handheld with a strap you can place around your wrist so that it won't even drop.

Reading the diagonals:
HLP = Hard Light Productions - Get hit hard, and you'll see the light of stars dancing around your eyes.
PLM = Mount Palomar in California - used to detect earthquakes, which can be theoretically produced by a character stepping on the ground with great physical strength.

So we're looking for a character who has big breasts, is related to unusual phenonmena, gets horribly drunk, wears a skirt, ranks highly in their race, doesn't even drop, punches things, and has immense physical strength.

Sounds like Yuugi, don't you think?

And yes, I did pretty much make this up as I went along. :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 01, 2011, 12:04:15 PM
Alternative theory:
Clearly all this MATHEMATICS could only be solved by the likes of Yukari Yakumo.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on April 01, 2011, 12:12:22 PM
Working off Dormio's idea. Not sure if this came up in the old thread, cba'd reading through it.

It's a magic square, which first of all means it's mathematical. The main character associated with mathematics (based on an interview in BAiJR) is Ran. Conveniently, she's also versed in black magic.

Those are the only two answers I'm wiling to give for this because it's so freaking open I could write theses on the subject.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 01, 2011, 12:27:35 PM
My guess?

The puzzle doesn't have any correct answer.  Pesco just put down a set of numbers and wants to see everyone run wild with their insane theories on how those numbers can relate to any given character.  He will then pick his favorite one and think "sure, why not?", declaring that to be the correct answer and granting IM to the one with the best imagination.

Or if I were to venture a real guess, then Alice, because the purpose of the puzzle is to make us dance like puppets as we play Pesco's little game.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 01, 2011, 01:04:13 PM
lolz

I don't even need to look past the first line of your answers to know you're wrong.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 01, 2011, 01:09:58 PM
Uh, so it's not the mathemagicians, nor the umbrella.
...
It's so obvious now! This riddle is based purely on luck!!!
Tewi Inaba.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Iryan on April 01, 2011, 01:13:51 PM
Let me go off on an entirely different tangent:

183
642
507

When read as a single number, we get 183642507

The integer factorization of 183642507 is:

183642507 = 3 * 3 * 37 * 223 * 2473

3, 37, 223 and 2473 are ALL "lucky numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_number)".

183642507 is thusly made up of lucky primes. Who is the prime character associated with good luck?

Tewi!

Actually the answer is Tewi because this is just an elaborate prank - there is no prize to win to begin with!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 01, 2011, 01:23:34 PM
Easy.
Magic Square -> Mystic Square ->Shinki.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on April 01, 2011, 01:29:17 PM
Each row, column, and diagonal of the square adds up to twelve. There are three rows, three columns, and three diagonals. 12 / 3 = 4.

4 is the number in the center of this square, meaning it is the most significant number in this square.

4 can be read as "shi", which can be also read as "death". A dead person is a ghost. Mima is a ghost.

Mima appeared in 4 of the 5 PC-98 games.

We're never going to figure out the true answer to this puzzle. Mima will never return in a Touhou game.

Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Gpop on April 01, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
Anwer is TEWI INABA

Why?

Well first off, think OUTSIDE the box :P

It's April 1st no?

There is no hint, there is no lead in that box

IT'S ALL A TRICK

APRIL FOOLS

That's what it is.

PS: I just went on and skipped every post because the first thing I noticed was the April 1st :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 01, 2011, 02:21:10 PM
The answer is Satori, since there is no mathematical or logical solution and the only possible way you'd get the answer is by reading Pesco's mind.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: theshirn on April 01, 2011, 02:24:23 PM
Sara.

It's a magic square, you derps.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Suikama on April 01, 2011, 02:39:31 PM
It's Sana

Sana the touhou
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Yukarin on April 01, 2011, 03:23:02 PM
Oh god so much math.

Nonononononono.


Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 01, 2011, 03:56:01 PM
Pescau has authorized me to give you a hint:

Economics.

Use it well.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Tengukami on April 01, 2011, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: Purvissimo on April 01, 2011, 03:56:01 PM
Pescau has authorized me to give you a hint:

Economics.

Use it well.

Oh. Nazrin then?
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 01, 2011, 04:11:25 PM
Then it's Reimu. Because there's a zero in the magic square, and Reimu is poor.

:justasplanned:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Esifex on April 01, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
This is how Suwako does Sudoku
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Yukarin on April 01, 2011, 04:23:35 PM
Keine? Since Economics is somewhat a branch of history.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Iryan on April 01, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
Economy, huh?

Who cares about the economa? The Tea Party!

Who regularly holds Tea Parties in good ends? Reimu!

Now, to analyze these numbers with Reimu in mind:

183
642
507

Usually you have the numbers from 1 to 9 in such a square, but this one has the numbers from 0 to 8 instead. The 9 got replaced by a zero, but why is that?
Assuming the 9 represents Cirno, we have to look for an absence of her. Which games do not feature Cirno?
THRtP, SoEW, PoDD, LLS, MS, IamP, IN, MoF, SWR, SA, UFO, DS
We see, all of these games also feature Reimu! Coincidence? I think not.

Going further, as has been noticed, the numbers in each line add up to twelve. However, this does not refer to UFO, oh no! The actual twelveth touhou game was Mountain of Faith! Once again, Reimu is playable in this game! The evidence just keeps piling up, guys! It is totally Reimu!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 01, 2011, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: KogaZengar Tatara on April 01, 2011, 01:23:34 PM
Easy.
Magic Square -> Mystic Square ->Shinki.
Quote from: Purvissimo on April 01, 2011, 03:56:01 PM
Pescau has authorized me to give you a hint:

Economics.

Use it well.
The heroines (And Mima) beat up Shinki because of a travel agency.
:justasplanned::justasplanned::justasplanned:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Gpop on April 01, 2011, 04:42:32 PM
Komachi.

If I remember correctly, how you lived your life is the currency she gets from you to cross over the river or something. And the magic box doesn't have a 9 in it, the game she debut in.

EDIT:
Quote from: PMiSS
It is said that the ferriage can be paid out of one's own assets - but not the personal assets collected over one's life, but rather the money spent by close relations in behalf of the deceased.

From PMiSS itself :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Shadoweh on April 01, 2011, 04:48:14 PM
Oh god this game how do you even play Sudoku
Economics? As in how all the numbers are perfectly balanced? That and references to both 12 and Mystic Square make me want to say Byakuren. But I don't speak Pescanese so that's the closest I expect I'll get.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 01, 2011, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: Purvissimo on April 01, 2011, 03:56:01 PM
Pescau has authorized me to give you a hint:

Economics.

Use it well.

Stop lying.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 01, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
Quote
Read the clue at least 3 layers beyond what's given.
The answer is Cirno.

1   8   3
6   4   2
5   0   7

You're going three layers beyond what's given. Meaning you subtract by three. Twelve is the answer given in the square.

12 - 3 = 9
Cirno is a (9). As a bonus the magic square also features every number up to 8. 9 is the next number in line.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Drake on April 01, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
goddamn people it is not cirno what is wrong with you


Also for anyone curious, the magic square using 1 to 9 contains nine numbers and so is a 3x3 square. The numbers summed together make 45, which divided by 3 makes 15 for each row.

6 1 8
7 5 3
2 9 4

This is said square.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 01, 2011, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Drake on April 01, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
goddamn people it is not cirno what is wrong with you

but it makes sense
a stupid answer for a stupid question

:trollface:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: theshirn on April 01, 2011, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: Drake on April 01, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
goddamn people it is not cirno what is wrong with you
stop beating me to posting things like this

Flansocks.  No explanation given.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 01, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
It's Alice because there's twelve colors on a color wheel, and she's the rainbow puppeteer.

This question is too ambiguous. :colbert:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 01, 2011, 05:28:52 PM
<headcrabs> well the numbers add up to 36 naturally
<headcrabs> but that probably doesn't mean anything

36 is a perfect square.
Sakuya, bitches.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Reddyne on April 01, 2011, 05:39:08 PM
Hieda no Akyu. There are nine numbers, each of which refer to her previous incarnations: Hieda no Are (0), Aichi (1), Ani (2), Ami (3), Ayo (4), Ago (5), Amu (6), Anana (7), Aya (8hurr). The only number not present is for Hieda no Akyu (9durp).
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Iryan on April 01, 2011, 05:42:11 PM
183
642
507

Game 1, New Character 8 Symbol 3 -> 矜羯羅
Game 6, New Character 4 Symbol 2 -> 紅 美鈴
Game 5, New Character 0 (meaning all preexisting characters' names) -> 博麗　靈夢 霧雨　魔理沙 魅魔 幽香

羅美魔, read ラメイマ, "rameima"

This is, of course, an anagram of "Amare mi", Italian for "Love me!".

Which person told humanity to love him through loving everyone else? Jesus!

But, in the Latin alphabet, "Jesus" begins with an 'I'!

"I am the strongest!" is a quote from Cirno.

Thus, the correct answer is...

Cirno

Quote from: Drake on April 01, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
goddamn people it is not cirno what is wrong with you
How does it feel to get proven wrong like that?  :smug:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 01, 2011, 05:42:26 PM
Quote from: Reddyne on April 01, 2011, 05:39:08 PM
Aya (8).
8)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Yakitori on April 01, 2011, 06:17:50 PM
Jeez you guys, the answer is obviously Mai! She's from Mystic Square and an inspiration for Cirno, who we all know is a 9-ball. It's so easy!  :3
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: E-Nazrin on April 01, 2011, 07:05:10 PM
Considering that the square was rotated since it was previously asked, I'm guessing it can be assumed that order doesn't matter (much).

... rotated... spun? Only a few people spin, and Ran has nine tails...? No, not likely.

Hm... there's another idea, but I'd have to look up some graphics...
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Gpop on April 01, 2011, 07:35:23 PM
Alright tried this

Crossed out the odd numbers to get a cross

   8
6 4 2
   0

(0 is neither odd nor even, so therefore it's not crossed out since I said I crossed out odds, not keep in evens)

So therefore

YUMEMI!

I'm getting pathetic x.x
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Yakitori on April 01, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Gpop on April 01, 2011, 07:35:23 PM
I'm getting pathetic x.x

You're only pathetic if you say Sara, because that has been done twice already. :derp:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Byaaakuren on April 01, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
Quote from: Gpop on April 01, 2011, 07:35:23 PM

   8
6 4 2
   0

(0 is neither odd nor even, so therefore it's not crossed out since I said I crossed out odds, not keep in evens)



Except that zero is an even number (it's divisible by 2)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Prody on April 01, 2011, 08:14:26 PM
Based on what I've gathered...

I'm guessing I have to figure out a number pattern from these 3 sets of numbers, which can be either vertically or horizontally, and continue with that pattern to form more numbers. Then the part comes with all the linking numbers with names of touhous.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 01, 2011, 08:31:03 PM
1   8   3
6   4   2
5   0   7

So we all know every which way and their mother, when you add all this up, it turns into 12. Now, How many characters are the 12th touhou game? 12. Who's the 12th character? Myouren. Why? He was supposed to be the final boss. The FINAL boss. As in, the last character you would have met.

But this could also mean it's Nue. She is technically the 12th character you "meet" in the game. First three being the Playable's, Nazrin Kogasa etc etc. Byakuren is the 10th person you "meet", this is including Unzan. She is the final boss. Now where do you learn about Nue? After beating the whole game on clear. But when do you get Byakurens Profile? After you beat her in any way. Her dead brother, Myouren, is mentioned in there, so technically that makes him the 11th character you meet. Then you meet Nue. It's as simple as that, really.

So basically my answer is Nue, though chances are I'm waaaay off.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: JT on April 01, 2011, 09:02:29 PM
Duh guys. It's obviously Kedama.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Prody on April 01, 2011, 09:08:56 PM
Random guessing maths time!

1   8   3
6   4   2
5   0   7

11   18   13
6    4     2
5    0     7

Formula: (1st row number - 2nd row number * nth column)
11 - 6 * 1 = 5
18 - 4 * 2 = 10
13 - 2 * 3 = 7

Looking at the numbers in a Japanese way... Kotohime?

The action of adding ten... Rumia?
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kasu on April 01, 2011, 10:41:31 PM
The answer is obviously Kogasa since its April Fools Day and its an attempt to surprise us.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 01, 2011, 10:43:13 PM
April Fools day is already over in my time zone and you guys are still failing spectacularly.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Suikama on April 01, 2011, 10:48:58 PM
 :yukkuri:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 01, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Quote from: Kogasa Tatakumo on April 01, 2011, 09:06:32 AM
Hmm, a magic square.

A magic square you say? Then it is clearly representative of Sara!

You know, because her theme is Magic Square.

It could happen. :<
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: JT on April 01, 2011, 10:53:07 PM
Is it Jigglypuff?
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Iryan on April 01, 2011, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: Inaba Tewi on April 01, 2011, 10:43:13 PM
April Fools day is already over in my time zone and you guys are still failing spectacularly.
Hey, my deductions are all 100% perfectly valid and infallible. Yes, all 3 of them.

It is not my fault that you yourself had the wrong answer in mind from the start.  :trollface:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 01, 2011, 10:55:24 PM
I did like your Marisa answer.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kasu on April 01, 2011, 10:55:39 PM
I'm pretty sure this has already been pitched, but I'm gonna take another crack at it and say Byakuren because all of the numbers add up to 12 when added in a row, up and down, and on a diagonal.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: JT on April 01, 2011, 10:58:39 PM
No wait, I've got it. It's Saddam Hussein, right? Saddam Hussein always did like numbers, especially when arranged in the shape of a square.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 01, 2011, 11:07:07 PM
Ran Yakumo.

Because of her spell card "Banquet of 12 General Gods"
 :derp:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: JT on April 01, 2011, 11:09:25 PM
Is the answer "Touhou 12, Unidentified Fantastic Object?" You did say "name the Touhou," not "name the character."
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Berzul on April 01, 2011, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: JT on April 01, 2011, 11:09:25 PM
Is the answer "Touhou 12, Unidentified Fantastic Object?" You did say "name the Touhou," not "name the character."
It also can be 12.3 12.5 and 12.8 ... for some reason. Like 12.3 cus digital root of 12 is 3. 12.5 Because.... let's just stay With Touhou Hisoutensoku
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 01, 2011, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: JT on April 01, 2011, 11:09:25 PM
Is the answer "Touhou 12, Unidentified Fantastic Object?" You did say "name the Touhou," not "name the character."
Mystic Square
duh
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: JT on April 01, 2011, 11:17:02 PM
I thought of that, but figured there must be some significance to the fact that the numbers add up to 12.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 01, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
That tewi's making you overthink it! :D
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 01, 2011, 11:37:19 PM
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/TheTouhou.jpg
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Suikama on April 01, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
it better not be mima
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Whatthe on April 01, 2011, 11:41:27 PM
I found some kinda symbol:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/332wj1l_th.png) (http://i56.tinypic.com/332wj1l.png)

Notably, both (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8380.msg548439.html#msg548439) versions (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8819.msg591189.html#msg591189) of the magic square produce the exact same symbol?the symbol itself is the same when rotated 180 degrees. This symbol could be seen as the beginnings of a spider web, and a certain spider youkai is shown rotated 180 degrees on the cover of Subterranean Animism's demo CD...

Yamame Kurodani!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: wooterz on April 01, 2011, 11:48:13 PM
it's obviously genji
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 01, 2011, 11:53:19 PM
IT'S PIKACHU
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 02, 2011, 12:05:04 AM
Draw a line from 0 to 8. On both of the magic squares. It doesn't matter which one you use.

You should have a pattern. The pattern is symmetrical. You can make the same pattern by only talking half of the picture and flipping it both horizontally and vertically.

Koishi's theme is symmetrical.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 02, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Quote
[02:12:42] <Pesco> @8ball should I give a clue?
[02:12:44] <%Keine> Pesco: One would be wise to think so.

Your clue is: Fuck you
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Suikama on April 02, 2011, 12:11:54 AM
it's yuka
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 02, 2011, 12:12:20 AM
no it's sanae

because she's a slut

:smug:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Whatthe on April 02, 2011, 12:30:33 AM
Flandre Scarlet!

Because of her trademark "kyuu."
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: JT on April 02, 2011, 12:37:09 AM
It's Kevin Bacon.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Conqueror on April 02, 2011, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: Inaba Tewi on April 02, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Your clue is: Fuck you

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6352/6ad9845090b9a595236cdf8.th.png) (http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6352/6ad9845090b9a595236cdf8.png)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 12:59:01 AM
Quote from: Conqueror on April 02, 2011, 12:38:51 AM
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6352/6ad9845090b9a595236cdf8.th.png) (http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6352/6ad9845090b9a595236cdf8.png)
pfffffffhahahah

The answer is... Sango?
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Hanzo K. on April 02, 2011, 01:00:47 AM
Sango....Sango's a dolphin...dolphins eat fish....tuna's fish...


...It's Sakana!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Suikama on April 02, 2011, 01:02:33 AM
Quote from: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 12:59:01 AM
pfffffffhahahah

The answer is... Sango?
Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 02, 2011, 01:16:55 AM
Quote from: Inaba Tewi on April 02, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Your clue is: Fuck you

I already told them that, remember?
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: E-Nazrin on April 02, 2011, 01:21:38 AM
Magic Square of 12...

... or, 'magic square' minus one?

No, a mathematical magic square is of indefinite size, not only 3. So this is specifically a '3' magic square. Minus one, would be a magic square of two...?

Wikipedia's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_square) cultural notes seem to point toward Saturn or turtles as another possibility...

Since I can't think of anything Touhou that would really point toward Saturn, the asteroid belt, or Mars (possible Saturn-1s), I'm gonna guess Reimu as a vague 'Genji-1'.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 01:23:22 AM
Quote from: Pok?mon Master Suikama on April 02, 2011, 01:02:33 AM
Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚
Well f-
Quote from: Inaba Tewi on April 02, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Fuck you
thanks pesco for stealing my thunder
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Polaris on April 02, 2011, 03:40:42 AM
Uncreative theory: Remilia Scarlet, because she has a spell card named "Bloody Magic Square". (I don't know how the blood fits yet though :V)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 02, 2011, 03:55:48 AM
Quote from: 폴라리스 on April 02, 2011, 03:40:42 AM
Uncreative theory: Remilia Scarlet, because she has a spell card named "Bloody Magic Square". (I don't know how the blood fits yet though :V)

it's bloody because our guesses/answers are making pesco cry tears of blood.

 :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Whatthe on April 02, 2011, 04:21:13 AM
Quote from: Kogasatthe Tataratshisgame on April 02, 2011, 12:30:33 AM
Flandre Scarlet!

Because of her trademark "kyuu."
  • The magic square contains every digit but 9, the japanese word for which is "kyuu"
  • "Kyuu" could be derived from the clue "Fuck you"
Thought of a couple more reasons it could be Flandre:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on April 02, 2011, 04:52:06 AM
Quote from: cranialCrustacean on April 02, 2011, 03:55:48 AM
it's bloody because our guesses/answers are making pesco cry tears of blood.

 :V
Bloody Tears... the answer is Simon Belmont!

...wait, Simon isn't a Touhou. DAMN IT
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 02, 2011, 06:45:31 AM
Quote from: Conqueror on April 02, 2011, 12:38:51 AM
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6352/6ad9845090b9a595236cdf8.th.png) (http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6352/6ad9845090b9a595236cdf8.png)

The answer has been found. Now what's the reasoning.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 02, 2011, 06:53:58 AM
Quote from: Inaba Tewi on April 02, 2011, 06:45:31 AM
The answer has been found. Now what's the reasoning.

The twelve steps for the creation of the philosopher's stone? (which is also one of her spell cards)
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 02, 2011, 06:57:33 AM
Quote from: cranialCrustacean on April 02, 2011, 06:53:58 AM
The twelve steps for the creation of the philosopher's stone? (which is also one of her spell cards)

Afaik making the philosopher's stone only required human lives.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 02, 2011, 07:00:29 AM
The square had 9 replaced with 0. Nine is 九 kyuu, while zero can be seen as "nothing" 無 mu. Mu and kyuu, you see where this is going :3
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Pesco on April 02, 2011, 07:01:12 AM
0 did not replace 9. Needs rewording.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 07:05:07 AM
ITT: Being smart to gain a title with the word "Idiot" in it.

Also, I'm going to assume its... um... The square had ... fuck I dont know just give me the title for being kippy :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on April 02, 2011, 07:06:49 AM
is it because patchouli is referred to as the wizard of the week?

5 (the five elements) + 7 (all days in the week) = 12
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 02, 2011, 07:06:54 AM
I'll leave that to someone else, wouldn't have any use for the IM anyway if that was the right direction. :V

(To explain though: "Replace" was meant in the sense that I saw a square with numbers 1 through 9 as the "standard", so use of 0 through 8 is unusual and in comparison to standard 0 replaces 9. Not that the square is the same as the 1-9 version only with 9->0, that wouldn't work after all. Yay fishy logic :V)

Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 07:09:27 AM
The lack of of a nine means that there's 0 nines, which 0 means Mu and nine means Kyuu. So there, having no nines in the magic square means that there's Mu Kyuu. And the fact that patchy is related to magic.

So, amidoingitrite?
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Esifex on April 02, 2011, 07:10:19 AM
Quote from: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 07:09:27 AM
So, amidoingitrite?

No, you're not. You'd doing badly. You're bad, and you should feel bad. Hang your head in shame.


I really don't know actually but that sounds like a valid theory
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Jana on April 02, 2011, 07:14:03 AM
More like Patchouli is the only one smart enough to figure this out. :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 07:23:53 AM
Quote from: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 07:05:07 AM
ITT: Being smart to gain a title with the word "Idiot" in it.

This post still stands. It's gotta be the answer. I divided by zero to get this and anything else.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Pesco on April 02, 2011, 07:39:59 AM
Okay guessing games over.

Correct answer - Conqueror
Correct reasoning - Kips

You both get IP each.

Now the people who got the wrong answers, get demoted 1 level per wrong answer. Does nothing to regular members.
Caedo
Roukan
Iryan

Special effort award to Whatthe for the Marisa answer which I liked a lot. IP granted here as well.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 02, 2011, 07:42:29 AM
I see corruption and shady deals going on between Pescar and Shadoweh.
Also, ffffffffffffff.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Conqueror on April 02, 2011, 07:44:41 AM
Wait what. I don't even know any Japanese.  :V

Er, thanks I suppose.  :blush:
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 07:45:35 AM
Holy fuck
I get to be a pretty blue princess
yussssh

Thanks Pesco. Oh and Whatthe got it too? Well, I kinda liked his answer too. also, I suck at logic puzzles. bad. I was kinda going out on a limb there :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Rin Kagamine on April 02, 2011, 08:07:45 AM
There y'all go, enjoy
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Iryan on April 02, 2011, 08:27:35 AM
oh ma gawd eye lost eedeeot madded

...

...eh, whatever. Still blue. :V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Helepolis on April 02, 2011, 08:33:24 AM
ACHTUNG IRYAN, you got degraded.

:V
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on April 02, 2011, 08:51:11 AM
Quote
demoted
wait what

WHAT

WHAAAAAAAAT

;_;
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Reddyne on April 02, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Kasu on April 02, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
No way I would've gotten that at all.

Congrats Kip, What, and Conqueror!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
Not exactly congrats because now I might lose it due to having to write something about a series i dont know mere hours after getting it and well now there's shit in my cheerios.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Kasu on April 02, 2011, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: Kips McKipzerson on April 02, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
Not exactly congrats because now I might lose it due to having to write something about a series i dont know mere hours after getting it and well now there's shit in my cheerios.
Kekeke.
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Prody on April 02, 2011, 03:39:59 PM
This was pretty... interesting. Red Herrings are the way to go!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Gpop on April 02, 2011, 04:32:02 PM
MAIDENS DOWN!

REQUESTING ADDITIONAL BACKUPS!

WHAAAT? I CALLED MAIDENS! NOT PRINCESSES!

Wait, you say all of these would make up for two maidens? WE'LL SEE WHEN WE PUT THEM IN THE FRONT LINES!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Yukarin on April 02, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
CAEDO IS NOT IP ANYMORE?

And to think he was my favorite IP
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Whatthe on April 02, 2011, 09:58:12 PM
AW YEAH I'M AN IP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP)

Thanks, Pesco! Congrats, Conqueror & Kip!
Title: Re: Tricky IM/IP contest OVER!
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 02, 2011, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: Kogasa Tatakumo on April 02, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
CAEDO IS NOT IP ANYMORE?

And to think he was my favorite IP
I'll find a way to get it back once the ShadowehxKips action dies down.
I need my blue. :)