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Title: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 04, 2009, 07:58:06 PM
Since threads are supposed to lock at 1000 posts (read: A mod will likely lock the last one soon), I'll just make the next one. Post your Touhou accomplishments here.

Link to the last one:

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=10.0
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 04, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
First reply, whee.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3779

Brilliant Dragon Bullet timeout.  I got this thanks to a small amount of favorable chance, i.e. I got unfathomably lucky several times and will probably never pull it off again.  I just love this card though.  It's really hard, but fun once you practice the pattern a bit.

Edit:  http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3780

...Damn.  I'm on a roll today.  Maybe I should give Scarlet Gensokyo another try...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 04, 2009, 10:53:22 PM
Since I was out, I didn't have time to theorize:
New request: Yumemi's Shinki-esque wall spam during her boss attack.
Going to try today. I do believe you want to know the best method of dealing with the pattern when (boss) Yumemi is close to the bottom of the screen when doing this? There's also only one attack that I can think of that fits your description.

PoDD game theory! I do believe I found a way to guarantee an auto-hit on the AI. Even at Lunatic. Testing...

...and videos are up. Of special note are Stage 3, and maybe Stage 6. I almost make it through (almost, but really, nowhere near finishing) the circles of doom in Stage 5. Still one bomb is better than two bombs or one bomb and one death. And I couldn't perfect the Stage 4 mid-bosses; forgot about when they appeared.

All videos contain High-Quality. Use that extension to enable. Though, I seriously don't notice anything different between the two when viewing my videos.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 04, 2009, 11:20:05 PM
PoDD game theory! I do believe I found a way to guarantee an auto-hit on the AI. Even at Lunatic. Testing...

WUT.

Please be real please be real please be real.

And yeah, I mean when she fires the attack like Shinki's opener, except more BS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 05, 2009, 12:18:23 AM
Just beat EoSD on easy for the first time.

Only PCB to go :)

Also yesterday i got to Kanako on Normal mode on MoF
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 05, 2009, 12:34:27 AM
And yeah, I mean when she fires the attack like Shinki's opener, except more BS.
In short:
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/lolwal10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=224&u=12803292)
You would need ridiculous control over your character to survive it without being hit.

The best solution is to prevent the (Yumemi) Boss Attack from using it. Methods of prevention include countering by point score, or using a Level 4 Spell Attack to counter.

The auto-hit I've formulated is too conditional to be used. It requires a certain number of bullets and fireballs to appear on the screen, as well as the AI not charging an attack, as well as having certain Stage Enemies appearing at a certain moment. And with that many conditions, it's impractical to use it.

In short, it's sending a "Fireball Swarm" when the Stage Enemies cross the screen horizontally, so that the AI will use their normal shots to attempt to take out the enemies, completely ignoring (tested, they do ignore it) the Fireballs. This causes the guaranteed hit because their AI is locked into trying to detonate the Stage enemies, and does not stop this until the Stage Enemies are off the screen. From experience, it should be quite obvious what happens when you don't use a Level 1 Attack against a "Fireball Swarm".

Regardless, another (near-)guaranteed auto-hit would be Yumemi's Crosses. Particularly during Boss Attack. For some reason, the AI just cannot deal with them. The AI will more often than not run into the Crosses, or points where the Crosses are about to materialize. AI used was Match Mode's, which I think is sufficient enough.

And after I eat breakfast (which is a bit late I think), I'll start on PoDD Lunatic with Yumemi, and see what happens.

First (Match Mode) Mirror Yumemi Match lasted just under 2 minutes. Second one lasted about 4. Quite short if you ask me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 05, 2009, 12:51:26 AM
Hmm. Yumemi didn't seem to serve me that well when I used her. Maybe it's the fact that She's the fastest character in the game in a game where you can't focus. The two characters I've gotten the farthest with are Reimu (stage 9) and Kana (stage 8 ).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 05, 2009, 03:59:53 AM
EoSD on Normal, this time with default lives. ReimuA. Finished 0/1.

I'm finally done with this. I started attempting this like 5 months ago. I think I hadn't even cleared IN Easy at the time.

I got better from playing the other games. I never died with bombs in stock, though I died very stupidly quite a few times anyway. I hadn't played this game for some time though, so I failed stuff I usually found easy, but now that I can bomb it doesn't matter.

I still have no idea how to do Red Magic though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 05, 2009, 04:03:38 AM
Holy crap holy crap holy crap holy crap.

I DID IT! EoSD Lunatic, Defualt lives cleared! Done with Reimu A!

Went into stage 6 with 5/0, left with 2/2. This confirms my theory that I needed two full lives and no more to clear Remelia. I am uploading the replay for this, just so people can watch the replay of stage 4. That was ridiculous there.

Also, notable captures include Thousand Needle Mountain and Vampire Illusion. It didn't wall me, which was incredibly lucky.

YES! FINALLY! Now on to the next one!

Edit: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3782 I need to figure out how to change that so it looks cool instead of just being an obvious link.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 05, 2009, 04:08:25 AM
Stay underneath Remilia at all times. Other than that, predict how to dodge the bubbles and generally don't die.

There's not much to it. Be shooting, be praying.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: saiyoucho on July 05, 2009, 04:25:07 AM
I ran a pretty fun match in SWR on Lunatic vs cpu a few days ago. =P
Reimu vs Marisa, and I still wonder how I pulled off some of those things.

http://moonsoul.net/wp/touhou/replays/swr/%5b090702%5dSai%5bLunatic%5d_reimu_marisa.rep

I also made it to Kanako on my first try yesterday at MoF.
That was pretty unexpected, since I wasn't really planning on trying to beat the game.

http://moonsoul.net/wp/touhou/replays/mof/%5b090704%5dSai_ReimuB_Stage6_Boss_th10_02.rpy
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 05, 2009, 12:16:09 PM
Holy crap holy crap holy crap holy crap.

I DID IT! EoSD Lunatic, Defualt lives cleared! Done with Reimu A!

Went into stage 6 with 5/0, left with 2/2. This confirms my theory that I needed two full lives and no more to clear Remelia. I am uploading the replay for this, just so people can watch the replay of stage 4. That was ridiculous there.

Also, notable captures include Thousand Needle Mountain and Vampire Illusion. It didn't wall me, which was incredibly lucky.

YES! FINALLY! Now on to the next one!

Edit: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3782 I need to figure out how to change that so it looks cool instead of just being an obvious link.

Big congrats, dude! Working towards that myself... haven't gotten to stage six with more than two lives yet, though. >.<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 05, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
I need to figure out how to change that so it looks cool instead of just being an obvious link.
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[url=http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3782]I need to figure out how to change that so it looks cool instead of just being an obvious link.[/url]I need to figure out how to change that so it looks cool instead of just being an obvious link. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3782)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: stargroup on July 05, 2009, 07:34:05 PM
haha Mk. II

I'm trying to 100% FFV right now, and this is my second playthrough.


also check this out MoF Perfect Stage 2 Lunatic True Pacifist

I would post a replay but it de-synced. if anyone wants it let me know and I'll just do it again
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 06, 2009, 02:02:59 AM
Ah ha...AH HA... AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAAHAHAAHASHDFASLKDFJASKDFJADSKLFCJASDKFLJADSKLFJASDKLFJKLFJASDKLFYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5999/remilianodeaths.png)

I've finally done it...I BEAT REMILIA ON LUNATIC WITHOUT DYING!!! :D My four bombs were used on Eternal Meek, Thousand Needle Mountain (orz), Vampire illusion, and Scarlet Meister (I've worked out how to beat Scarlet Meister on one bomb pretty consistently with Marisa A). I could have sworn I was dead when I entered Scarlet Gensokyo with no bombs (since I had entered it with a bomb before this run and failed still), but I captured it! The scarlet devil is dead! At long last!

...Oh yeah, and I perfected China just before this, but it's completely overshadowed by this. Isn't it sad China? ;_; That run was less spectacular anyway as I died twice on the stage due to idiot mistakes.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 06, 2009, 02:21:18 AM
I am confused.  If you beat the stage without dying and passed the 40m mark, shouldn't you have 5 extra lives instead of 4?  Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.  But regardless, awesome job!  Someday I'll capture goddamn Scarlet Gensokyo...someday...  :'(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 06, 2009, 02:30:43 AM
Since it's the final level, the game doesn't give you extra lives from points gained after the boss' defeat. If you look at my score and my end bonus, you'll see my score was about 35 million upon Remliia's defeat.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 06, 2009, 02:33:17 AM
er... I feel so bad posting this now... :p

i finished PoFV on easy on my first try. that's gotta be the easiest game on easy mode eh?

now i'm only missing PCB on easy... but i can't beat Youmu yet so it might take a while... I hope not.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 06, 2009, 02:36:46 AM
Since it's the final level, the game doesn't give you extra lives from points gained after the boss' defeat. If you look at my score and my end bonus, you'll see my score was about 35 million upon Remliia's defeat.

Ah.  I see.:-[  I've never actually gotten to the point where I hit a life-gaining score after beating her, since I usually end up just timing out Scarlet Gensokyo until I gameover.  It makes sense though.  Sorry if I sounded like I was doubting you, the picture just looked kinda off.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on July 06, 2009, 02:43:02 AM
Donut's reminding me to clean up some things that have been overdue.  While I'm far from beating Remi with four bombs, I've finally nailed my first Meister cap.  Going for Gensokyo now.  Fuck it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 06, 2009, 04:28:52 AM
Remember: If you can beat Scarlet Meister without ending it with a bomb, any damage you deal to Remilia before she activates the spell card is free damage on her. I don't think I've ever captured Scarlet Gensokyo without this (though I'm sure I still would have by now if it didn't exist).

EDIT:

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7100/roomcleaningstop.png)

There~ Perfect EoSD stage 3 lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 06, 2009, 08:13:59 AM
Mah apologies for teh double post, but TADA!

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3786

EoSD extra no bombs clear. Just to see the look on Sodium's face.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: [K]KoaMeow on July 06, 2009, 11:45:45 AM
IN Hard with Yukari Solo and MoF Normal with MarisaB.

God. That was freaking awesome.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 06, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
which reminds me... what game has the easiest Hard mode?
I know IN has the easiest easy and I think MoF has the easiest Normal mode..
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on July 06, 2009, 06:29:37 PM
Greatest accomplishment- No deaths phantasm run, Reimu-B. I would actually be able to do this consistently if I didn't refuse to use the safe spot in BoLaD or mess up during the begining. I was having such a good run, I decided that I might as well try to go for a no deaths run, and by the time Yukari did her final spellcard, I had 3 bombs and I wussed out, bombing on both the 3rd and 4th waves. If I captured her last spell, then I would have broken a billion.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 06, 2009, 09:52:34 PM
First attempt at PCB Lunatic with marisa B ended at Hell God Sword. I'm calling this an accomplishment because I haven't tried PCB Lunatic in months, and I've never seriously used Marisa B... but now I know why. Is it just me, or is she terrible?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 06, 2009, 11:15:07 PM
To celebrate confidential related news, I played through LLS lunatic (I've beaten it so many times my scores no longer reach the high score board every time). It was a pretty average run, I died with bombs in stock a couple times, but one thing was special: I beat stage 5 Yuka's final phase...kinda. See, I never bombed it, but a bomb I used for safety on Master Spark knocked out the first wave wall and I easily captured it from there. It sorta counts. :O

Also, confirming that stage 6 Yuka's final phase is static.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 07, 2009, 01:12:14 AM
I died with bombs in stock a couple times, but one thing was special: I beat stage 5 Yuka's final phase...kinda. See, I never bombed it, but a bomb I used for safety on Master Spark knocked out the first wave wall and I easily captured it from there. It sorta counts. :O
Well, you beat me to it. And here, I had just found the spot I should be dodging from.

Also, confirming that stage 6 Yuka's final phase is static.
For some reason, I don't seem to find this being the case. If it is however, then it would make things a hell of a lot easier for me. I might make several runs and see if the pattern "flowers" the same way each time. That'll take a few hours of straight playing though.

I survived "The Books" (without bombing). Wonder if there's an actual strategy I can use to survive it without bombing twice in most cases (using ReimuB and all).

I also found a strategy to consistently (like... 60% at the moment until I get used to it) to survive Kanako's opener on Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 07, 2009, 01:15:20 AM
Oh, do tell. I still don't know how to dodge that first wave, but I noticed in a replay that the sides aren't walled off immediately.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 07, 2009, 01:37:53 AM
I was still disgusted at that crappy IN 1cc I did (it was... really bad) so I decided to make a nicer one. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3791):V  Managed to finish with 3 extra lives and 2.7 bil score (I was going for 2.5).  Notable captures include Asteroid Belt and Life Spring Infinity.  It still could have been been better though; I died several times with bombs, sucked at Hourai Jewel, and those 3rd/4th night spells were robbed from me, ROBBED I SAY!  I still need a lot of practice on Tewi and midboss Eirin as well.  Those two just eat up the bombs/lives like crazy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 07, 2009, 02:26:32 AM
I just nearly finished PCB for the first time... TWICE

I hate Youmu and Yuyuko.

I HATE THEM!

And today I died on the last spell card from Kanako on normal... I think I'm closer to beating MoF on normal than PCB on easy.. It's the last game reamaining for me on easy :/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 07, 2009, 03:24:01 AM
This would normally be a rage moment, but...

1 bomb short of a Perfect Marisa Battle for LLS Lunatic (this was also at Max Rank due to the sheer amount of spam that actually occurred). Where did I bomb? The streaming attack (stars, not snowballs)  >_>

It's a 7 death, 23 bomb Lunatic 1cc. 4 bombs were used for (very horrible; in terms of score gain) scoring.

Crashed and burnt myself on Stages 5 and 6. I had 8 lives at the start of Stage 5.

Yuka's Final Phase (Stage 5)...

err... let me get a few screenshots showing the best method that I can see. And no, I didn't follow it because I didn't realize it until now. Isn't it sad?  ;_;

EDIT: screw it. I'm going to video it instead.

Yuka's Final Phase (Stage 6) is indeed static after seeing it so many times now.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on July 07, 2009, 06:32:29 AM
Old thread already hit 1,000? Jeez, I blame Donut, Baity, and Azinth  :V

/me patiently waits for UFO's release
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 07, 2009, 06:46:46 AM
So you know how a few of you were mocking me lightly? How back in November when I 1cc'd MS lunatic I stated I had beaten every lunatic you guys said "what about HRtP and PoDD? :V :V :V" Well, HRtP lunatic was beaten a while ago, and I finally got this mustache twiringly EVIL idea...what if I beat the impossible? What if I beat PoDD lunatic? It was only a pipe dream, but suddenly I began learning the ins and outs, and finally...AT LONG LAST...

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5089/poddlunatic1cc.png)

I REPEAT.

PC-98 ALL CLEAR
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Herasy on July 07, 2009, 08:28:21 AM
Cleared MoF Normal again with Reimu B, but the best part about it isn't that I captured Aya's Survival Spell card Illusionary Dominance (Which was still pretty awesome mind you) no no no! It would be that I captured Mountain of Faith! Take that Kanako! Strange that I did this well since I haven't really been practicing my Danmaku at all lately.

Best Normal run ever.  ;D

Oh and congrats Donut for finally completing the impossible, hopefully you will brag about it less than you cried about not having done it.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 07, 2009, 08:57:44 AM
um. what.

Well, I guess I no longer can consider PoDD Lunatic as genuinely impossible for a human to beat.

Congratulations, donut.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: _Zac_ on July 07, 2009, 09:58:24 AM
My greatest accomplisment so far is getting 62,752,950 points in Embodiment of Scarlet Devil on normal difficulty, but I still havn't beaten the game on normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 07, 2009, 12:42:54 PM
'nut does ridiculous things (pun avoided).

Alright, here's what I got from mass experimentation during random LLS runs:

-Yuka's Final Phases are indeed static. Rank does not affect them. Still learning more spots for Yuka's Final Phase (Stage 6), although I can clear it now with MarisaA if I really wanted to (because of Cheap Lasers). Still difficult regardless.
-The most optimal solution to LLS Stage 4 Mid-Boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDNi_sOcKiU) (HQ Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDNi_sOcKiU&fmt=18); though, I don't see a difference). Yes, the spray is aimed at your position continuously, not as I had previously thought.
-(Partial) Safespot above Elly during the "Tile Spam" Phase? Not that it's really needed...

Guess that's it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on July 07, 2009, 12:53:31 PM
Well, I guess I no longer can consider PoDD Lunatic as genuinely impossible for a human to beat.
You know TranceHime did it before Donut right?

But anyways, CONGRATULATIONS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 07, 2009, 10:30:12 PM
Perfect China fight... would have been a perfect stage but I died stupidly at one point. Still, not bad at all.

Almost got a perfect Stage 2 of PCB also. Chen's last card is the only problem, but it's not terrible. I'm not really sure why people dislike her.

Alice also isn't that bad... almost had a perfect run of her, screwed up Hanged Hourai Dolls.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on July 07, 2009, 11:40:05 PM
So. Damn. Close.

(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3699/clip12.png)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3801 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3801) (note: desyncs with English patch)

Going to continue trying, because I know I can surpass him.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 08, 2009, 01:01:12 AM
Just finished PCB on Easy! Was the last game to be finished on easy for me :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 08, 2009, 01:25:03 AM
I REPEAT.

PC-98 ALL CLEAR

Damn.  That is... quite impressive to say the least.  Even if you weren't the first to do it, anyone who can beat that hellish game on lunatic is deserving of the PC-98 master title. 

So then... SG lunatic is next on your list right?  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 08, 2009, 01:26:58 AM
PoFV is next, for other than the fighting games (which due to my ineptitude in the genre have no desire to play above normal on) it is the only lunatic not yet beaten. SG lunatic can go rot in hell. ^_^
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 08, 2009, 01:51:43 AM
I just installed the vsync patch for EoSD, and decided to try MarisaA on Normal. I usually use ReimuA, but it was already cleared, and Marisa would make it easier to see the effects of the patch.

But holy crap, I cleared it 4/2, even if I lost bombs in stock because a stupid offscreen knife surprised me. My other clear ended with 0/1.

This patch is awesome. Once, I deathbombed AFTER hearing the death sound! Before, every time I deathbombed I had pressed the button before getting hit.

I even captured Eternal Meek, and found it quite easy. I always thought it was total bullshit before, even on Normal.

Now going to try PCB...

Edit : Tried Normal. Stupid death on stage 2, so I decided to try a No-Focus No-Bombs run (and not break borders intentionnally, but I always tend to ram into bullets anyway).
The run was going really well, until I hit Youmu, where I died twice to her penultimate spell and once to her last spell. Reached Yuyuko's second last spell, where my estimation of the bubbles hitbox was completely off.

I might not have succeeded, but this gave me a lot of confidence (I had a better score than my cleared run), and I believe Hard is within my reach.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 08, 2009, 10:55:32 PM
Perfect Stage 2 of Cherry Blossom (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3815)

That took far, far too long. So many stupid deaths on the stage for no good reason. Still, Chen is pretty easy. Why do I hear so much hate about her?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 09, 2009, 12:47:53 AM
In a flurry of pure luck, I managed to survive the ultimate BS wall of PCB stage 6 with Marisa A. I feel like I need to record my reactions to my various accomplishments (my PoDD lunatic victory noise like I was in deep grief, with deep voiced breathing, but happy).

Also, I think I've FINALLY figured out the trick to PCB stage 4 after Lily. The enemies that fire the death walls don't fire immediately upon entering the screen. Watch carefully, and destroy the enemies that are already firing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 09, 2009, 01:11:09 AM
The post-lily waves come in a specific pattern.  It's two blue aimed waves from each side(stream up), two purple aimed waves from each side(stand still), (stop shooting)blue aimed wall, red aimed wall, (start shooting)red aimed rice pellets, and then repeat.  That's the strategy that Kefit used in his stage 4 video on youtube.  The reason I was able to perfect the stage is because I pretty much copied his strategy >_>.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 09, 2009, 08:02:57 AM
I just defeated Lyrica's opener on max rank. :O Though this attack is one of the few in the game that slows my computer down (I believe the only other is ghost knives), I am fairly certain it did not assist me in the critical dodges!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 09, 2009, 12:25:31 PM
(First) PoFV Lunatic 1cc with Yuka. Replay didn't save due to game crash. Though, it really isn't too hard to pull it off again.

Who would've thought that disabling the BGM and playing something else on top of it would work, even though my right hand was suffering from fatigue?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 09, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
I AM BAAAACK (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3820)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on July 09, 2009, 05:13:14 PM
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i293/Arcengal/resbutterflycapture.jpg)

I've only just stopped shaking...
My favourite card in the entire series. 12 attempts in PCB, upwards of 340 in IN.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on July 09, 2009, 05:30:23 PM
Just finished PCB on Easy! Was the last game to be finished on easy for me :)
Go to normal now I believe in you.  ;D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 09, 2009, 05:55:42 PM
Got to Stage 5 SA Hard. Farthest I've ever gotten, woohoo~

I died to the ridiculously easy streaming part a bit after midboss Orin, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 09, 2009, 06:29:16 PM
Got to Stage 5 SA Hard. Farthest I've ever gotten, woohoo~

I died to the ridiculously easy streaming part a bit after midboss Orin, though.

You serious?

You can timeout last card in EoSD Lunatic but can't finish SA on Hard? :O
is it REALLY that hard? :p
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 09, 2009, 06:31:24 PM
Yes I know, how surprising :O
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 09, 2009, 06:33:37 PM
Well, your overall power in SA, compared to almost every other game is pretty much BS, so that's understansable.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 09, 2009, 06:44:46 PM
Phantasm clear, with ReimuA, on my second try.

Which also means I've beaten Yukari on my first try, because I hadn't even reached her before.

It was supposed to be a pretty crappy run though. At least one death in the stage, every single one of Ran's attacks failed, failed Yukari's first spellcard while I had a border, failed her second spell because I stupidly rammed in a bullet, etc.

I was way better than usual though for her non-spells. Only two bombs IIRC, both completely unnecessary, and one made me fail "Butterfly in the Zen Temple" before it could even start  >:(

Somehow, I reached BoLaD with 3/2 or something ridiculous like that, and this time I didn't lose three lives on it, only one because I reached the 30 seconds mark and I can't dodge all that crap.

As for Danmaku Boundary or whatever it's called, I bombed the first wave because I got stuck in the middle, dodged the second and third wave, tried to use the safespot in the fourth, was completely off, and died, and died in the fifth because I forgot which way I had to go.

I died with bombs in stock at least 4 times too (2nd spell, 4th spell, 2x last spell, probably Border of Human and Youkai too).

All hail the vsync patch.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 09, 2009, 07:21:28 PM
Theorizing Alice's attacks. I think I've got most of them now, and should be able to perfect that stage. Difficult parts at the moment include post Alice stage and Me being a moron and forgetting the static parts.

Static Parts - As far as I can tell, every single one of her non-cards is static, changing only on her position. I've confirmed this for her mid-boss and pre-mid boss attacks, as well as her second boss non-card. Not sure about her opener, though.

Benevolent Dolls - wow, I use to think this card was stupid. I can't tell how static it is, but it's pretty much the same thing every time, Parts of it are random, though.

Chalk White - Easy.

Spring Kyoto - Not sure, again. This could be static. The circle shape is static, but I'm not sure about the direction they go off in. It seems pretty much the same every time.

Hanged Hourai - Easiest with minimal movement staying in the center. Sometimes the dodging gets tight, but it's always doable.

So ya, I think the hardest part of stage 3 PCB is the stage itself. Boss Alice doesn't seem so bad anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on July 09, 2009, 07:33:06 PM
My little sister 1cc'ed EoSD Easy.

She's 10.  And started playing in April.

I'm so proud of her... :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on July 09, 2009, 07:56:20 PM
I captured Keine's General Headquarter Crisis 7 times... in 10 tries. After watching a lot of replays i see some people cheesing it by going to the right/left corner of the screen. Not only does that look quite wimpy but it also takes forever to do that. I wonder why people do that anyway, its probably one of her easier spellcards though i wouldn't stake too much there.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 09, 2009, 10:18:09 PM
two days ago i 1ccd PCB easy
yesterday I got to Kanako 4 times on MoF normal
today i got to Yuyuko on PCB normal :s

i suck :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 09, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
It didn't crash this time! Hooray (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3822)! It's (feels like it's) getting easier the more times I do it. And I slightly (oh so very slightly) beat my first 1cc score.

C'mon 'nut! If I can do it, so can you!

As an aside note, credits to anybody who can survive LLS Stage 5 pre-boss waves on Lunatic (I don't think rank affects it?).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 09, 2009, 10:32:47 PM
Durrr... http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3823

So, out of curiosity... does it still count as a perfect stage run if I failed Keine's last spell right at the end?  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on July 09, 2009, 10:42:45 PM
Spring Kyoto - Not sure, again. This could be static. The circle shape is static, but I'm not sure about the direction they go off in. It seems pretty much the same every time.

Not quite.  I believe the card is actually aimed, but that the tight dodging causes you to tend toward the same movements every time, making a faux-static pattern.  I noticed this when I failed a no death/no bomb run of Stage 3 on Kyoto Dolls because I got greedy and started the card by shotgunning Alice because I thought it was static.  I ended up dying because something in the pattern changed and threw off my somewhat memorized dodging.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/1-1.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/2.jpg

The above pictures are images of two different runs of Kyoto Dolls, viewed through Camtasia to get them at as close to the exact same moment as possible.  Image 1 began with shotgunning, image 2 began with me cowering at the bottom of the screen.  Note that the difference from one to the other is the angle of the bullets relative to Alice.  It's the same pattern, but fired off in a slightly (but noticeably) different direction.

So the card isn't static.  Assuming it is indeed aimed (as opposed to random), this won't really matter and you can pretend it's static for 95% of runs.  It's when you assume it's static and change up your strategy because you -think- you know what you're doing when you get yourself into trouble.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on July 09, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
Spring Kyoto - Not sure, again. This could be static. The circle shape is static, but I'm not sure about the direction they go off in. It seems pretty much the same every time.

Not quite.  I believe the card is actually aimed, but that the tight dodging causes you to tend toward the same movements every time, making a faux-static pattern.

Yeah, it's aimed. Over time, I began adopting the same movements I used from previous runs, and soon enough, it became pretty trivial. Think something along the lines of SA Stage 4's streaming section.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 09, 2009, 11:09:45 PM
Cool times, and thanks guys. Glad to have the confirmed.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 09, 2009, 11:14:21 PM
Damn... I think I've hit a bit of a wall. EoSD Lunatic 1cc seems to be going nowhere fast... I keep making really stupid mistakes on Cirno and Meiling and not having enough lives to finish the rest. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 10, 2009, 12:00:11 AM
I could get used to this.

How do you survive the "Balls of Death" (3rd Phase)? I clip even using the other two shot types, and it takes far too long to get through because you need to be on the side for about 70% of the time.
Found it out myself. Uploading~
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/rawr10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=230&u=12803292)

Survived with the Spread Type. Now an awesome challenge for me is to survive without double-tap nonsense.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 10, 2009, 12:08:42 AM
I could get used to this.

How do you survive the "Balls of Death" (3rd Phase)? I clip even using the other two shot types, and it takes far too long to get through because you need to be on the side for about 70% of the time.
Found it out myself. Uploading~
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/rawr10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=230&u=12803292)

Survived with the Spread Type. Now an awesome challenge for me is to survive without double-tap nonsense.

Good luck. The reason I loathe Evil Eye Sigma's fight (though I've now accepted the tank himself to be fucking awesome) is because I beat him without knowing about the rapid fire. It took about 20 days of straight playing, and most of those never passed his second phase (keep in mind I was also less skilled back then).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: saiyoucho on July 10, 2009, 03:18:01 AM
I just beat MoF in a 1cc on Easy. xD
Dunno if you could call that an accomplishment, but I've never played it on easy.

I almost managed to make a perfect run of it, but after Sanae butchered me like usual, I just gave up on that and just beat it instead.

Though I gotta say that I really don't like that ending. =_=
Here's the replay if anyone wants it:
http://moonsoul.net/wp/touhou/replays/mof/%5b090710%5dSai_ReimuA_1CC_Clear_Easy_th10_10.rpy
Just rename it and stash it in the replay folder.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on July 10, 2009, 05:09:21 AM
All IN last words unlocked. Shazam.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 10, 2009, 06:06:38 AM
Forgot to mention for a while:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPDhZ_5lG4w

The SoEW Extra Clear, with "Movement Type" as it would be called. It's not that bad with double-tap. Hell, I would say that the entire game was designed with reliance on double-tap in mind. I don't see a way that it should be possible to clear off the stage portion of Extra (with minimal deaths, or reaching Max Power) without double-tapping, particularly when the wave of "blobs" start filling your screen.

Also, that's SoEW Extra cleared with all 3 shot types. Now what shot type should I use for the "added handicap" of no double-tapping? I'm leaning towards "Defense Type" (or even "Movement Type"; won't hurt if I try), after failing several times with "Attack Type" because I wasn't moving fast enough.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 10, 2009, 06:33:17 AM
In all aspects of the game, I think Reimu B is the best one.

Also, if I get really masochistic I should try 1ccing SoEW lunatic without the double tap. I managed it for hard mode, so I could probably do it for lunatic as well. Still, it's not exactly something I've ever gone back to once I discovered rapid fire and discovered that ZUN stated to do it in the manual.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 10, 2009, 07:37:21 AM
In all aspects of the game, I think Reimu B is the best one.
Fair enough.

...I think I just found out how to perfect IN Tewi on Lunatic.

Oh wow, that's interesting.

Also, I appear to be out of practice for Reisen.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on July 10, 2009, 08:12:32 AM
I managed a surprising no-focus cap of Sumizome Perfect Blossom -Seal- just now.

I think it was also an no-focus Easy 1cc (despite my absolutely horrible deathbombing skills), but I can't for the life of me remember if I've [actually focused] during the other stages.

Replay to come once I've reviewed the damn thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 10, 2009, 06:08:37 PM
All Youmu's cards captured in one run. Only parts messed up were her openers, which I refuse to misdirect.

I think if I ever perfect Stage 3, I'll try stage 5 next.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 10, 2009, 06:38:18 PM
Oh jesus lol. The first time I try PCB after the VSync patch I beat Ran 4/3.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 10, 2009, 09:34:45 PM
EES isn't that bad, even after taking away double-tap now.

Hell, I even almost managed to clear without bombing on EES (after a no double-tap run of the stage, reaching 6/1 and over 8 million points.)

The stage is still a different story, especially with the "Defense Type"

EDIT: I just noticed how easy EES is. Without double-tapping, it's just an endurance test.

EDIT 2: Done. No double-tapping, "Movement Type", SoEW Extra Clear. Uploading for 'nut~

EDIT 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIznDu6TEs8
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 11, 2009, 12:12:16 AM
I felt like crying after watching that. It's been over a year since I did that same feat, but the scars still remain...

New challenge Baity: Do that WINDOWED. THEN you will feel my pain. D:

/me Starts singing "NOOOOOOOOOOOBOOOOODY KNOWS THE TROUBLE I'VE SEEN..."
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 11, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
I felt like crying after watching that. It's been over a year since I did that same feat, but the scars still remain...

New challenge Baity: Do that WINDOWED. THEN you will feel my pain. D:

/me Starts singing "NOOOOOOOOOOOBOOOOODY KNOWS THE TROUBLE I'VE SEEN..."
Yes, I'm one of the horrible people who use Unregistered HyperCam 2. It does the job fine for me, and I really can't be bothered changing. Anyway:
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/untitl36.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=232&u=12803292)
That's the score before the "boss kill" score was added (3 million if I recall).

EDIT: That should also be sufficient proof.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 11, 2009, 12:58:11 AM
Okay, now do it when you were a hard mode player who still had troubles with normal mode! >:(

;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 11, 2009, 02:06:44 AM
2cc'd PCB Lunatic after a bunch of tries.

Man, what a kick in the balls this was. Although, I think comparing each stage's increase in difficulty from Hard is really noticeable. I perfected 1 and lost no lives to 2. Stage 3, 4 and 5 were death, but I found Youmu and 6 to be quite easy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on July 11, 2009, 02:10:21 AM
There. Just 1LC'd Orin on normal without trying at all. = I don't see why she's considered hard. Utsuho is much much harder.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 11, 2009, 02:26:49 AM
It's because Orinrin Land doesn't begin until lunatic. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on July 11, 2009, 07:59:14 AM
Orin is kind of like Youmu. At Normal she is very easy. At Hard she adopts some pretty dangerous attacks but at Lunatic she will slaugther you with hellish spellcards and attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 11, 2009, 10:52:43 AM
Grrr... died with Scarlet Gensokyo at around 1/5 health to go. So close...

It wasn't even much of a good run (probably partially to do with having some alcohol in my system but whatever), I managed to die twice on stage three. <_< But I managed to pretty consistently use all my bombs so I guess I just managed to survive, plus there were some unexpected captures like ZA WARUDO. Died with bombs in stock twice at Remilia, though... if I'd avoided that the clear would have been mine for sure. Will try again later, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 11, 2009, 06:50:14 PM
GODrake is back. PCB Stage 5 Lunatic.

<333 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3931)

Should Youtube y/y?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 11, 2009, 06:57:51 PM
Please do. I'm not sure how impressive you can make PCB stage 5, but I wanna see it and am too lazy to download your replay.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 11, 2009, 06:59:41 PM
HAHAHAHAHA HELLL YESSSSSSSS EOSD LUNATIC 1CC'D WOO BOOYAH etc. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3930)

Mannnnnn... that was intense. My heart is still pounding from that. Hehe... I remember months and months ago, I was having a similar amount of trouble but with Normal and with max lives. Oh how the tables have turned, EoSD! Having said that, I still got raped by Scarlet Gensokyo as usual, but I'd stockpiled enough lives for that for once. Pretty pleased with Stage 4, IIRC I captured high or max rank Rage Trilithon High Level, Silver Dragon and Emerald Megalith (still not great at estimating ranks, bleh). Not much else to say... but it feels good to be a lunatic at last. ;D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on July 12, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
HAHAHAHAHA HELLL YESSSSSSSS EOSD LUNATIC 1CC'D WOO BOOYAH etc. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3930)

Congrats :)

EoSD Lunatic is annoying as all hell.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 12, 2009, 12:27:22 AM
Oh? This mean you still believe Remilia is bullshit? :P I challenge you to beat it no deaths. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 12, 2009, 01:17:32 AM
Oh? This mean you still believe Remilia is bullshit? :P I challenge you to beat it no deaths. :D

...@_@ That sounds nightmare-inducing. I have trouble with three lives! And I've gotta get me some more Lunatic 1ccs before I start going after these crazy goals. I'm thinking PCB next...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 12, 2009, 02:17:07 AM
Oh? This mean you still believe Remilia is bullshit? :P I challenge you to beat it no deaths. :D

...@_@ That sounds nightmare-inducing. I have trouble with three lives! And I've gotta get me some more Lunatic 1ccs before I start going after these crazy goals. I'm thinking PCB next...

YOU'RE ON!!

...

But you will probably get it first, since I lose my Touhou tomorrow ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on July 12, 2009, 02:20:50 AM
YOU'RE ON!!

...

But you will probably get it first, since I lose my Touhou tomorrow ;_;
Donut already has beaten Remilia no deaths. =V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 12, 2009, 02:22:30 AM
I'm referring actually to the beating of PCB lunatic.

Sapzdude is my rival.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 12, 2009, 02:48:24 AM
I'm thinking PCB next...

YOU'RE ON!!

Ohoho, it's on now! You may have beaten me the first round but I'm ready for you this time, school just finished yesterday. 8)

Although I may fall victim of terminal laziness somewhere along the line...

But you will probably get it first, since I lose my Touhou tomorrow ;_;

Damn, how long are you losing your Touhou for? This needs to be a fair duel!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 12, 2009, 03:37:12 AM
Probably will be Touhouless until August 23rd ;_; I can't go that long.

Technically, I could play on my laptop. But the slow down is terrible. Like, I'm running most things on 30 FPS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 12, 2009, 04:13:26 AM
GWAAAAAAAAAAAH!! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3938)

IN 4b.  0 bombs, all cards but the last spell captured, and 1 death to Marisa's second nonspell.  A perfect run would be nice, but that second nonspell of hers is so goddamn horrible that I just can't bring myself to try any more for now (why does no one ever complain about this attack?  I find it several times harder than Asteroid Belt.  Maybe it's because I don't use the Border team...).  Failing the last spell was a shame, but after getting through all her other cards without screwing up I just didn't care.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 12, 2009, 04:19:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGTwRxWugYM&hd=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGTwRxWugYM&fmt=22)

There you go. PCB Stage 5 Lunatic TAS in all it's awesome.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 12, 2009, 05:52:56 AM
I failed QED. Which means I reached it. Yay. I had even died TWICE to Cranberry Trap. I probably would have captured it with anyone else. Why the hell do those homing amulets ALWAYS target the familiars!? First capture of Laevatein too, now that I know what to do. I also captured Kagome Kagome and Counter Clock, and 1 bombed And Then Will There Be None? (I got walled in on the sides, and bullets were about to appear on me). I also lost 9 bombs in stock apparently (screw you again Cranberry Trap).

Just now, I FINALLY managed to capture Royal Flare. It's much easier now that I know I have to go on the sides. Now I might be able to 1-bomb Patchouli, because Silent Selene is not too hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 12, 2009, 07:14:28 AM
Just added Suwako to the list of extra bosses I've beaten without bombing. I don't really care for it though, because I value no death runs much more, and those are sadly much harder to pull off.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 12, 2009, 08:05:21 AM
209 attempts! First clear. Yes, I run around while trying to get a higher bonus on my first clear as well, is that such a problem? This is why I haven't 1cc'd EoSD or SA Hard yet; I have a habit of trying to score.

"Imperishable Shooting" (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3941)

EDIT: The more I think about "Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana", the harder it gets... Interesting. I've cleared it before, but for some reason, I seem to be having more trouble now than before.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on July 12, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
Finally...
I managed to 1cc PCB on Normal.
What's really weird, is that I captured not one of Yuyuko's spell cards expect Reflowering 30% (her third was an almost-capture).
I really fucked up on Youmu and Yuyuko, but through the first four stages, I only used ONE bomb and lost no lives.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on July 12, 2009, 09:31:48 AM
/me 's hands are quaking

Just managed a PoFV Normal 1cc with Tewi.  Not only did I just barely manage to win on my last life, I just barely managed to beat out my computer's screensaver timer (since apparently controller work =/= keyboard or mouse movements).

Fuck you Reisen, Medicine, and Sikieiki.

Replay to come after I wake up tomorrow (if at all).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on July 12, 2009, 10:37:44 AM
Oh? This mean you still believe Remilia is bullshit? :P I challenge you to beat it no deaths. :D

I'd thoroughly enjoy doing so if I could get that damn vsync patch to work its magic on Vista.

/me lolexcuses
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 12, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
I don't really care for it though, because I value no death runs much more, and those are sadly much harder to pull off.

Oh cool, I was wondering about that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 12, 2009, 06:05:04 PM
Cleared EoSD Extra with ReimuA. I managed to capture Silent Selene, Royal Flare, Laevatein, Four of a kind, Kagome Kagome, and And Then Will There Be None? (the second part is easy).

I didn't die in the stage (that's an auto-restart for me, and it happens quite often) and reached Flandre 4/1. 1 bomb for Cranberry Trap, then I didn't die until Maze of Love (I hate this card. I can't dodge clockwise and tried staying at the bottom of the screen for the second wave). 2 bombs for Starbow Break, 1 for Catadioptric, got hit by the laser in Counter Clock, and 1 stupid death and two bombs for QED, one of them activated while Flandre was exploding. So I finished 1/1.

This was my goal when I started playing Touhou, which explains why I've spent so much time on EoSD, while I still haven't tried MoF Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 12, 2009, 06:26:03 PM
Cleared EoSD Extra with ReimuA.

This was my goal when I started playing Touhou, which explains why I've spent so much time on EoSD, while I still haven't tried MoF Normal.

Congrats! EoSD Extra was my goal too when I started... I remember it taking me the best part of a month of solid practice. Pretty impressive beating it with Reimu A too, I don't think I've managed that yet. Out of interest, why'd you go with that shot type rather than something higher power like Reimu B or Marisa A?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: CK Crash on July 12, 2009, 07:06:38 PM
Finally cleared PCB Extra. Next is Phantasm and EoSD Extra. For some reason I find the Extra stages much easier than 1CCing on Normal >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 12, 2009, 08:01:05 PM
Cleared EoSD Extra with ReimuA.

This was my goal when I started playing Touhou, which explains why I've spent so much time on EoSD, while I still haven't tried MoF Normal.

Congrats! EoSD Extra was my goal too when I started... I remember it taking me the best part of a month of solid practice. Pretty impressive beating it with Reimu A too, I don't think I've managed that yet. Out of interest, why'd you go with that shot type rather than something higher power like Reimu B or Marisa A?

Because I do everything with Reimu A first. It's some kind of obsession. Either because I always used her when I began, or simply because it's the first shot type listed. I'm not even better with her. I finished EoSD Normal 0/1 with Reimu A and 4/2 with Marisa A (I had the vsync patch though). I tried clearing it with Reimu B too, but completely sucked with her. But that was a month ago.

It's also great practice. It takes so much time to clear a spellcard after all. I don't have too much problem with Cranberry Trap anymore, though I still have to bomb it with Reimu A. I'm also much better at Maze of Love now, though I still can't dodge clockwise.

Finally cleared PCB Extra. Next is Phantasm and EoSD Extra. For some reason I find the Extra stages much easier than 1CCing on Normal >_>

It's like that for me too, at least for EoSD. You shouldn't have too much trouble with Phantasm. Sure, her stage is like 10 times harder, but personnally I think Yukari is easier than Ran, even with Danmaku Bounded Field. Her second and fourth spell are just so much easier than Ran's version. Also, it's actually pretty easy to get 800 point items in Phantasm.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 12, 2009, 08:14:28 PM
Oh? This mean you still believe Remilia is bullshit? :P I challenge you to beat it no deaths. :D

I'd thoroughly enjoy doing so if I could get that damn vsync patch to work its magic on Vista.

/me lolexcuses

!

This...means the vsynch patch doesn't work on Vista? This...could be problematic. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 12, 2009, 08:56:59 PM
Oh? This mean you still believe Remilia is bullshit? :P I challenge you to beat it no deaths. :D

I'd thoroughly enjoy doing so if I could get that damn vsync patch to work its magic on Vista.

/me lolexcuses

!

This...means the vsynch patch doesn't work on Vista? This...could be problematic. D:

I have Vista and it works. I don't know what makes it work or not, but it CAN work on Vista. I don't know if it changes anything, but I always leave my computer with Japanese unicode (or non-unicode, I forgot). And it's a laptop. Try running it as administrator, or deactivating those constant security prompts. I don't know enough about computers to really help you more than that though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 12, 2009, 08:58:08 PM
it does work under Vista
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 12, 2009, 10:44:03 PM
I'm on Vista, and I used to have problems running vsync. I was on a Japanese locale and all of the usual recommended stuff, but it still didn't work. Turns out it was because my Touhou games were on a different hard drive to the one my main OS was installed on. I guess it's kind of a long shot, but that or something similar could be it if you have that kind of setup...?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Doomsday on July 12, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
just got up to Yuyuko's first spell on hard before continuing in PCB.
nearly there...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on July 12, 2009, 11:37:02 PM
I'm running Japanese Locale, I renamed the files and all that stuff, and all I ever get is bawww.

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/bjwdestroyer/baw.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 13, 2009, 12:32:48 AM
Phar said it before. You need the rename your game file to 東方紅魔郷

I renamed my file to th06e and got this error too.

EDIT : MoF Normal cleared. With ReimuA (heh). First try (I got a lot of practice from clearing Extra stages).

Didn't die until Sanae. I hate Sea Opening. Then I got cocky and tried to force my way through a wall of bullets (though I did micrododge those lines of bullets she throws twice). Died once to Kanako, on the knife spellcard thing.
I captured Mountain of Faith too. In fact, that's her only spellcard I captured. It was BY FAR the easiest of her spellcard for me. No stupid misdirecting bullets around, and creating walls because I don't know how, just good old dodging skills and unfocusing at random.

I also went for points. I wanted that 150 millions points life, so I bombed whenever my faith started going down (this game encourages bomb-spam, so bomb-spam I did). It didn't go as expected though. I got it when I had max lives. And I finished with 400 million points anyway (5 lives in stock).

Here's the replay in case anyone's interested. Pretty obvious I don't know what the hell I'm doing, especially in stage 5.

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3948)

EDIT 2 : Lol WTF. The replay says I'm playing at 0 or 5 FPS, then jumps to 128 FPS. This is probably because the game was flashing all the time. I'm playing fullscreen and didn't close the folder with all the games' shortcuts, so it must have kept on trying to get in front of the game's window.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on July 13, 2009, 03:14:57 AM
Phar said it before. You need the rename your game file to 東方紅魔郷

I did rename them :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 13, 2009, 03:19:55 AM
Phar said it before. You need the rename your game file to 東方紅魔郷

I did rename them :P

Hmmm. 東方紅魔郷 or 東方紅魔郷.exe (it's the first)? Did you copy the three files (vpatch.exe, vpatch.ini and th06 something)? There's a file the patch can't find. Post an image of your game folder if you can't find what's wrong. 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on July 13, 2009, 04:53:05 AM
It took a long time, but I've finally captured Rez Butterfly (on Easy).  Now for attempting it on Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 13, 2009, 05:43:07 PM
Hell yes! I finally managed to capture VoWG! (in b4 do it on Lunatic <_<)

Aaaand that makes all spell cards in MoF from Easy to Hard captured. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on July 13, 2009, 06:23:11 PM
Now do it on Lunatic
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 13, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
NEVER! >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on July 13, 2009, 08:05:47 PM
Got to Catadioptric on basically a sightread of EoSD extra. I could probably beat it within a couple days. : I KNOW the trick to Maze of Love but I can't seem to pull it off.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 13, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
I can now put "Good at danmaku games" on my resume! <3

1cc MoF Hard! Only one left in SA!

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3957 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3957)

Although, no particularly awesome parts during.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 13, 2009, 09:07:06 PM
Got to Catadioptric on basically a sightread of EoSD extra. I could probably beat it within a couple days. : I KNOW the trick to Maze of Love but I can't seem to pull it off.

I know the feeling... my first ever capture of Maze of Love was something like six months after my first clear of EoSD Extra. <__<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 13, 2009, 09:47:37 PM
Got to Catadioptric on basically a sightread of EoSD extra. I could probably beat it within a couple days. :\ I KNOW the trick to Maze of Love but I can't seem to pull it off.

I know the feeling... my first ever capture of Maze of Love was something like six months after my first clear of EoSD Extra. <__<

Really? I could capture it if I could dodge clockwise. It's much harder for me than going counter-clockwise for some reason. I can dodge the first wave quite often. Much easier than trying to micrododge the waves IMO.

As for Catadioptric, I tried middle, right corner, up a bit, stay right, then back to middle. Repeat. I failed because I didn't manage to go back in the middle and got stuck on the right wall.

If we're talking about EoSD Extra, what about Starbow Break? I don't know what to do with this spellcard. The bullets accelerate at random, and sometimes the gaps are really small.
And I'm NOT using the safespot. I want my capture to be fair (although I don't think you can do enough damage to capture it anyway).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 13, 2009, 11:23:03 PM
Got to Catadioptric on basically a sightread of EoSD extra. I could probably beat it within a couple days. :\ I KNOW the trick to Maze of Love but I can't seem to pull it off.

I know the feeling... my first ever capture of Maze of Love was something like six months after my first clear of EoSD Extra. <__<

Really? I could capture it if I could dodge clockwise. It's much harder for me than going counter-clockwise for some reason. I can dodge the first wave quite often. Much easier than trying to micrododge the waves IMO.

As for Catadioptric, I tried middle, right corner, up a bit, stay right, then back to middle. Repeat. I failed because I didn't manage to go back in the middle and got stuck on the right wall.

If we're talking about EoSD Extra, what about Starbow Break? I don't know what to do with this spellcard. The bullets accelerate at random, and sometimes the gaps are really small.
And I'm NOT using the safespot. I want my capture to be fair (although I don't think you can do enough damage to capture it anyway).

Wellll what happened with Maze of Love was that I failed it miserably the first few times and then I decided I may as well just keep sticking to the bottom using a bomb or two than risk death without any warning and then that just developed into a bad habit. <_<

For Catadioptric, that sounds about right... not a lot else you can do except for watch out for the slow little trailing bullets.

Starbow Break, there doesn't really seem to be any pattern (as far as I can tell, at any rate, but I'm not really an expert on these things). Just try and stick to areas with the least desnity of bullets coming at you and try to move out of their way ASAP, I guess. Also, there's a safespot? ...It's not something painfully obvious like above Flandre, is it? @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 13, 2009, 11:35:12 PM
That safespot is unsafe and you have to wait a long time even if you reach it for the card to time out.

However, I can help you by telling you why that safespot exists. From what I've heard (from people more competent than me), the bullet's horizontal coordinates never change. Meaning, bullets spawn on a certain line every time. At the top left of the screen is a very small area where none of these bullets ever either rise to or are on that horizontal plane. This means that while the bullets falling are random, there are similar openings. Learn where those are and trust your hitbox.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on July 13, 2009, 11:44:38 PM
Fuck year, new world record (MoF Extra ReimuA).

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3959 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3959)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 13, 2009, 11:48:39 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

Just beat MoF on Normal for the first time! o/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 14, 2009, 12:34:45 AM
Fuck year, new world record (MoF Extra ReimuA).

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3959 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3959)
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

Just beat MoF on Normal for the first time! \o/

Congrats to both of you!

That safespot is unsafe and you have to wait a long time even if you reach it for the card to time out.

However, I can help you by telling you why that safespot exists. From what I've heard (from people more competent than me), the bullet's horizontal coordinates never change. Meaning, bullets spawn on a certain line every time. At the top left of the screen is a very small area where none of these bullets ever either rise to or are on that horizontal plane. This means that while the bullets falling are random, there are similar openings. Learn where those are and trust your hitbox.

Hrm, I see... I may have to try that sometime if I'm feeling adventurous. Still, I don't really like safe spots, so I doubt I'd use it even if I managed to find it; same goes for Utusho's third card, BoLaD etc. They're pretty fun cards and the point of the game is to dodge bullets after all... doesn't seem a lot of point playing if you're just going to hide. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 14, 2009, 01:03:22 AM
SA Normal 1cc. ReimuA.

Every Extra stage unlocked in the Windows games. For normal, I still have to beat PoFV and SWR.

It was the first time I reached Orin, and I couldn't understand what to do on any single one of her attacks. Constantly walled by the ghost wheels, shooting zombie fairies in her first spellcard, NOT shooting zombie fairies in her last spellcard, can't read her non-spells worth a damn, etc.

At least it's pretty easy until Satori. I died once or twice to her, a crapload of times against Orin, and twice to Utsuho I think (a non-spell and her last spell). I also got stuck in Heaven and Hell Metldown. I was near the left wall and I kept dodging vertically all the time, so I didn't do enough damage to capture it.   
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 14, 2009, 01:38:08 AM
same goes for Utusho's third card, BoLaD etc. They're pretty fun cards and the point of the game is to dodge bullets after all... doesn't seem a lot of point playing if you're just going to hide. :V
There's a difference. Starbow Break's safespot is pretty easy to get and is just a kill of the entire card (top left of the screen, underneath the 'n' in enemy). The safespots for BoLaD as well as Eternal Meek are so ridiculously hard to achieve that there's not much point in trying to get them anyways. Fixed Star, on the other hand, is not really a safespot. Most of the time, you're going through the spot anyways and either way you still have to dodge the other bullets. It's not so much of a safespot as a makes-things-not-hell-spot.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on July 14, 2009, 03:03:34 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Mountain of Faith normal is easier then Mountain of Faith Easy?

I'm talking about the spell card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on July 14, 2009, 03:38:58 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Mountain of Faith normal is easier then Mountain of Faith Easy?

I'm talking about the spell card.
No, just about everyone agrees with you here.  Now if only VoWG Lunatic was easier than VoWG Hard...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 14, 2009, 04:34:40 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Mountain of Faith normal is easier then Mountain of Faith Easy?

I'm talking about the spell card.

I'm 1/1 on Normal and around 0/5 on Easy. The best I've managed to do is 2 bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 14, 2009, 07:09:16 AM
The problem with MoF easy is that the amulets aren't ordered at all, leading you to suddenly get walled without warning.

As for me, I figured out Ill-starred Dive (Mystia's second spell card). This spell card kills me fairly regularly, but it's never been overt enough for me to learn it. It turns out that if you destroy the familiars every second wave, less red bullets (the hard part of the card) will spawn, making it much easier. Now if I can just capture Mystia's first spell card and her second non-spell in the same run I may finally perfect Mystia.

Also, first time capturing Asteroid Belt outside of spell practice. I had a breakthrough with the spell card just now, but I don't even know what that breakthrough is. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on July 14, 2009, 07:25:47 AM
IN Easy no-miss clear go!

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3962

See the rage topic for the bad side of this replay.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 14, 2009, 08:37:57 AM
Today is a bizarre day. After having to face Earth in a pot Normal 9 times to capture it, I capture it on my first hard run and on the second lunatic one. What.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 14, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
All PCB spell cards Easy to Hard captured! That just leaves SA, which will probably take a while due to the whole Satori-using-different-cards-for-each-shot-type thing...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 14, 2009, 02:04:02 PM
MoF normal is easier than MoF easy, but only the pattern.
MoF normal is faster than MoF easy...

So it's 50/50 for me.

I can't capture either, so... :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: CK Crash on July 14, 2009, 02:30:09 PM
PHANTASM STAGE GET

I completely screwed up Yukari's Arcanum, but what do you expect on my first time facing it?

Now I should get around to 1CCing SA on normal...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on July 14, 2009, 03:32:01 PM
I captured Mokou's last non-card. Now, it was with Alice, and Mokou was in front of me the whole time, so I only needed to last a couple of second, but it's still hard. =V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 14, 2009, 08:21:26 PM
After many many many attempts of each, Hard mode DBDB and Erratic Step captured. That just leaves ghost wheels, Nuclear Excursion, Giga Flare and... fifteen different Satori cards. <_<

EDIT: Righty, got all the non-Satori cards. Giga Flare and ghost wheels weren't too bad, but Nuclear Excursion... sweet Jesus. Took me at least thirty attempts. I can already tell how much fun trying to capture Uncontainable Nuclear Reaction will be... =_= Ah well, hopefully that's the hardest part over.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on July 14, 2009, 11:45:18 PM
Who's the strongest?

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/th002-1.jpg)

I'm the strongest, motherfucker.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 14, 2009, 11:53:02 PM
Gck...you're all trying to goad me into playing PoFV lunatic, aren't you? AREN'T YOU?!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 15, 2009, 12:36:40 AM
Gck...you're all trying to goad me into playing PoFV lunatic, aren't you? AREN'T YOU?!

Give in, Donut. GIVE IN. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on July 15, 2009, 01:21:52 AM
Don't do it, I don't want you to have another accomplishment to rub in my face. :>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 15, 2009, 02:55:10 AM
VoWG lunatic capture the third! :D Nothing is quite as awesome as not only capturing this card after the music synchs perfectly the whole battle, making some harrowing dodges in the final 20 seconds, hearing the spell card capture cue sound, AND getting an extend from the card bonus.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 15, 2009, 08:02:30 AM
Perfect Stage 5 (stage portion) of IN Lunatic (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3969). All Spell Cards captured, save for "Idling Wave", which I accidentally panic-bombed on because I thought I was walled.

Circles coming from many directions suck.

Also, it's not much of an achievement, but surviving against Reimu for PoFV Lunatic for 2:30 would be another milestone for me.

...damn, this makes me want to beat the MoF Hard ReimuA WR so badly now, just to see how long my score would hold up.

I mean, come on:
Fuck year, new world record (MoF Extra ReimuA).

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3959 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3959)
Quote from: score.royalflare.net
Phar
Score: 982,731,920
Date: 2009/07/14
Time: 01:11
Suddenly:
Quote from: score.royalflare.net
coa
Score: 983,104,110
Date: 2009/07/15
Time: 13:06
Really tempting me.

Reading through coa's various comments, it is advisable to not lose any faith (yes, even 10 or 100) during the stage.

Also, something about the two survival Spell Cards "Red Frog" and "Suwa War". He seems to complain about an "imperfect" bullet clear bonus (i.e. Faith-related) for "Suwa War" or something to that effect. I suck at translating sentences. Somebody else can try:

Quote from: coa
開幕が若干安かったり、少し赤蛙の誘導ミスったりと細かい所は色々ありますが、ほぼベストと言っていい内容で繋がってくれました。
高い時には大抵「風雨」とか「諏訪大戦」がキツいんですが、何とか凌ぐ事ができました。
?ってかよく諏訪大戦死ななかったなw
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on July 15, 2009, 11:19:22 AM
Reading through coa's various comments, it is advisable to not lose any faith (yes, even 10 or 100) during the stage.

Also, something about the two survival Spell Cards "Red Frog" and "Suwa War". He seems to complain about an "imperfect" bullet clear bonus (i.e. Faith-related) for "Suwa War" or something to that effect. I suck at translating sentences. Somebody else can try:

Quote from: coa
開幕が若干安かったり、少し赤蛙の誘導ミスったりと細かい所は色々ありますが、ほぼベストと言っていい内容で繋がってくれました。
高い時には大抵「風雨」とか「諏訪大戦」がキツいんですが、何とか凌ぐ事ができました。
?ってかよく諏訪大戦死ななかったなw

coa's competitive as heck, so this is not really surprising. He was pretty quick about it this time, though. For Extra, losing some 10-100 faith or even points during the stage isn't really that important (though it's obviously better not to), it's mostly not ending a card/non-card at just the right moment and/or with Suwako at exactly the right spot that can be lethal to your score. My run was pretty sub-optimal in that respect. coa says in his comment he often has a hard time during froggy braves the elements and suwa war. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one; I lost count of how often a near-perfect run was ended by either of those. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 15, 2009, 12:21:02 PM
coa's competitive as heck, so this is not really surprising. He was pretty quick about it this time, though. For Extra, losing some 10-100 faith or even points during the stage isn't really that important (though it's obviously better not to), it's mostly not ending a card/non-card at just the right moment and/or with Suwako at exactly the right spot that can be lethal to your score. My run was pretty sub-optimal in that respect. coa says in his comment he often has a hard time during froggy braves the elements and suwa war. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one; I lost count of how often a near-perfect run was ended by either of those. :V
Counting that you have an extra 100 Faith from the start of Mid-Boss Kanako (you lost a bit before this if I recall); you could easily add about 100-150k to your score. I emphasized on 10 a bit too much I would think. The exact value I haven't been bothered to calculate yet, but it should be somewhere around there.

Saw the bolded part, and noted it in your replay. Also, I've had first-hand experience with it myself for MoF ReimuA Hard. The only thing that I hate about ending Spells / normal attacks at the right time is just that; you have to get it at the right time. I know the windows, but they're pretty damn small, and require luck (since the boss could theoretically stay at the top of the screen as opposed to moving down a bit). Also, crossed out a part which is essential, since you (at this point) need to gather as much Faith as possible during Attack Phases.

I'll have to watch his new replay to see which parts he touched up on.

...reading through coa's comment more thoroughly, I can see it now. That's what I get for skimming over something that isn't my native language, and something that I haven't constantly practiced.

Also, I should say that both "Froggy Braves the Elements" and "Suwa War" can perform walls / boxes on you, due to the random factor of the Spell Card. Especially "Suwa War". Hate them so much.

I must also commend you on your method of scoring for "Red Frog". Definitely something new, and very possible if you plan it out right.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on July 15, 2009, 12:39:39 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Mountain of Faith normal is easier then Mountain of Faith Easy?

I'm talking about the spell card.

I'm 1/1 on Normal and around 0/5 on Easy. The best I've managed to do is 2 bombs.
XD I'm 1/7 on easy and 2/2 on normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 15, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
I'm 0/12 on easy and 0/5 on normal :s
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 15, 2009, 02:08:46 PM
I have 2/10 on Easy and 0/6 on Normal, but that's because I bomb the hell out of the previous spellcard and reach MoF with low power, while in Easy I can capture it consistently.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on July 15, 2009, 06:21:51 PM
Counting that you have an extra 100 Faith from the start of Mid-Boss Kanako (you lost a bit before this if I recall); you could easily add about 100-150k to your score. I emphasized on 10 a bit too much I would think. The exact value I haven't been bothered to calculate yet, but it should be somewhere around there.

Thing is, the faith you get from clearing Kanako's opener and her 1st (this one especially) and 3rd spells deviates in the hundreds, depending on luck. So in comparison, a loss (gain) of 100 faith during the stage isn't that significant anymore, because if you're lucky (unlucky), that faith is completely compensated (lost) in this phase anyway. And during Suwako, the deviations are even far greater.

Anyway, I watched coa's replay. Some notes:

- His stage run is nigh flawless. I don't think I've ever had that much faith/points at the start of the boss.
- He never seems to wait for Suwako to move to the center in the zig-zag non-cards, even though this seems like a pretty important faith source to me.
- He takes his time at Rings of Death (or whatever it's called). I'm still unsure on which ring it is most ideal to clear it, but waiting never seemed to give a significant faith advantage to me.
- He missed Suwako for a bit at the card with the homing green bullets (probably lost around 100k in points).
- He missed Suwako a lot during Froggy Braves the Elements. I'd estimate this cost him around 300k in points.
- The faith-loss at Red Frog he talked about seems fairly insignificant to me.
- At Suwa War, he has about 150k more than I had, despite starting Suwako with 300k more than me and having more faith throughout the battle.

I think with a truly perfect run you could maybe still reach 984 million, but you'd be pretty damn close to the theoretical limit (unless some completely new strategy is devised, of course, which seems unlikely at this point).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 15, 2009, 08:55:53 PM
Just captured Hourai Jewel in stage practice, though I have no idea how I did it since I still suck at it.  I guess I just managed to be in the right place at the right time for the entire duration of the card.  Unfortunately, in a fabulously derptastic moment, I forgot to save the replay.:P 

Also got Imperishable Shooting.  It only took 92 tries with the Ghost team and about 170 overall, which is relatively painless.  The card actually wasn't that bad after I found a better strategy for the fourth wave, which I'd always found nearly impossible until now.  Turns out I was just doing it wrong the whole time. 

And off-topic rant while I'm here:  Am I the only one who finds that IN has some of the stupidest and most unenjoyable spellcards/attacks ever?  Like, almost half of my least favorite Touhou moments can probably be found in this game.  Namely:  Hourai Jewel, Imperishable Shooting, Profound Field, Hourai Elixer, Fantasy Heaven, Blink, several of Eirin's cards, and a few nonspells (namely, Mystia's last, Eirin's second, and Marisa's second).  Fortunately I can forgive it because a.) Most of them are bonus attacks, and thus I don't have to see them unless I really want to and b.) aside from these horrible parts, the rest of the game is awesome.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 15, 2009, 08:59:08 PM
PCB Extra 2 lives lost.

Just a note, has anyone noticed Veronica's Youtube account closed?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 15, 2009, 09:00:50 PM
I did.. noticed it today actually :(

you can still watch mine if you want ;)

http://www.youtube.com/user/lmagus

=P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 15, 2009, 09:16:37 PM
I noticed it yesterday when I tried to watch her perfect Kanako battle.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 15, 2009, 09:45:16 PM
Just got even farther on Orin. Up to Needle Mountain.

But I think I'll try my hand at the VSync path even for SA. I've had at least four instances where I press the bomb button in advance and die anyways. As in, four out of seven extra lives. Which also potentially prevented me from another extra life.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 15, 2009, 09:51:59 PM
Is it just me, or is Reimu C by far the most impractical and/or useless shot type in SA? I've been going through Satori's cards in Hard mode and though none of the others seem really as good all around as Reimu A, they all seem to have at least some situations where they do really well - Reimu B has pretty powerful homing, Marisa A has high shotgunning power, Marisa B is good on those spellcards where you have to manoeuvre around bosses as well as being pretty good on stages, Marisa C takes down bosses pretty fast and has the safety bomb thing... but aside from having a pretty decent bomb, I can't find any redeeming feature about Reimu C. The speed boost gets me killed more often than it actually helps and having to reposition your options every time you unfocus gets annoying really fast.

Am I missing something here, or is it really that bad?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 15, 2009, 10:00:26 PM
She's good for TAS runs. Other than that I have no idea lol
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 15, 2009, 10:11:10 PM
Is it just me, or is Reimu C by far the most impractical and/or useless shot type in SA?

Well actually, she's probably the second best shottype in the game for survival-based play after ReimuA, if only because her really high-damage bomb.  Stand right ontop of the enemy for its duration and you can pretty much oneshot any attack in the game except Utsuho's first and last two cards.  Her focus shot also does decent damage, though not as good as ReimuA (so the hard-to-use shottype does worse damage than the easy-to-use one?  lol ZUN).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 15, 2009, 10:14:00 PM
@ReimuC:

Good for those short, quick dodges that you do when you're boxed. If you can manipulate the options well enough, you should be able to clear the stages quite easily. Also, ridiculous shotgun bomb.

Thing is, the faith you get from clearing Kanako's opener and her 1st (this one especially) and 3rd spells deviates in the hundreds, depending on luck. So in comparison, a loss (gain) of 100 faith during the stage isn't that significant anymore, because if you're lucky (unlucky), that faith is completely compensated (lost) in this phase anyway. And during Suwako, the deviations are even far greater.
The difference of 100 (several times over it seems) is significant, as seen with this progression from your (current) replay and coa's:
415660;417320;424160;431500;436000
415800;417560;424360;431750;436560

The gap slowly widens (i.e. he got better clear bonuses than you); with the final large jump being Kanako's 3rd Spell Card. I'm not sure whether that would be just luck, or there's something extra within, seeing that the "spiral" appears to be random on Kanako's 3rd Spell Card.

- His stage run is nigh flawless. I don't think I've ever had that much faith/points at the start of the boss.
- He never seems to wait for Suwako to move to the center in the zig-zag non-cards, even though this seems like a pretty important faith source to me.
- He takes his time at Rings of Death (or whatever it's called). I'm still unsure on which ring it is most ideal to clear it, but waiting never seemed to give a significant faith advantage to me.
- He missed Suwako for a bit at the card with the homing green bullets (probably lost around 100k in points).
- He missed Suwako a lot during Froggy Braves the Elements. I'd estimate this cost him around 300k in points.
- The faith-loss at Red Frog he talked about seems fairly insignificant to me.
- At Suwa War, he has about 150k more than I had, despite starting Suwako with 300k more than me and having more faith throughout the battle.
-Nigh-flawless Stage run indeed. He seems to wait a bit (longer) before deathbombing the two fairy "trio"'s. That should add about 100 Faith each time. You can see where I'm going with the small numbers.
-Not sure why he doesn't wait a bit on those phases. Maybe it's insignificant, or he forgot? I'll have to check both replays (gets boring holding ctrl down constantly, and rewatching again and again...) to see if there's an actual significant difference.
-For "Iron Rings", it's a compromise between Spell Card Bonus and Faith. I myself don't know which ring to end it on. If you're (still) unsure, then just count the number of rings which fire before he finishes. Each ring does give a rather large (a few hundred?) amount of Faith though...
-Missing during Spell Cards happens. Significant regardless.
-Faith-loss during "Red Frog" ranged in the few hundreds if I remember. It had something to do with the remaining bullets flying off-screen or something when it disperses.
-This last point means that he messed up during Suwako, probably during the points you raised where he missed.

Overall, it's entirely possible to beat his score again. You should focus on (even if it's luck-based or not) "maximizing" Faith before Suwako.

Let's go! HRtP Hard! Video!

...just pray that I don't die a few billion times.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 16, 2009, 12:30:33 AM
I beat HRtP hard Makai route on a random run last night. :V It was very close, but it was fun as hell. More people need to give HRtP a chance.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on July 16, 2009, 01:43:30 AM
The difference of 100 (several times over it seems) is significant, as seen with this progression from your (current) replay and coa's:
415660;417320;424160;431500;436000
415800;417560;424360;431750;436560

The gap slowly widens (i.e. he got better clear bonuses than you); with the final large jump being Kanako's 3rd Spell Card. I'm not sure whether that would be just luck, or there's something extra within, seeing that the "spiral" appears to be random on Kanako's 3rd Spell Card.

If anything, it proves a single 100 faith loss during the stage isn't that significant. There'd be a 460 difference instead of 560 in the end. Point being that, unless you aim for absolute perfection, the 100 wouldn't make a significant difference in the long run - you easily lose much more than that just due to slight imperfections in timing during the bosses.

The gap widens so much because he had pretty much perfect timing/luck on everything. Timing is essential on the 3rd card; you would ideally end it exactly when the stream hits the bottom. I was way too late here, hence the big difference. I also noticed coa directs the 2nd and 3rd waves a bit away from the edge, which is slightly more efficient as it seems you can catch a few extra bullets that go for the corners of the closer edge that way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 16, 2009, 08:29:55 AM
And off-topic rant while I'm here:  Am I the only one who finds that IN has some of the stupidest and most unenjoyable spellcards/attacks ever?  Like, almost half of my least favorite Touhou moments can probably be found in this game.  Namely:  Hourai Jewel, Imperishable Shooting, Profound Field, Hourai Elixer, Fantasy Heaven, Blink, several of Eirin's cards, and a few nonspells (namely, Mystia's last, Eirin's second, and Marisa's second).  Fortunately I can forgive it because a.) Most of them are bonus attacks, and thus I don't have to see them unless I really want to and b.) aside from these horrible parts, the rest of the game is awesome.
Hourai Jewel sucks. Like, it really sucks. REALLY REALLY SUCKS, and is quite easily my least-favourite card in the series (though Source of Rains is doing its best to compete with it). Basically it seems a lot of the patterns in IN seem to be a lot more dependent on the concept of having seen them before, sometimes up to even fairly ridiculous micromemorization (see: Keine, Hourai Jewel, etc), except for the early half of the Kaguya battle which just sucks. Horribly.

Imperishable Shooting is a lot of fun, though, even though it's too easy now :/

Quote from: Drake
Just a note, has anyone noticed Veronica's Youtube account closed?
Yeah, she said she was doing that. Not sure if she wants any public mention of why, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: N-Forza on July 16, 2009, 01:13:57 PM
I absolutely destroyed IN Easy with the Border Team. I didn't lose a life until stage 5 and had both my lives and my bombs maxed out at one point. I lost a bunch of lives on 6 because it was my first time playing through it and I got careless too, but it felt good to finally get to Kaguya.

And then I played Extra and managed to capture one of Keine's spellcards in one shot.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 16, 2009, 02:04:14 PM
I got to Aya on MoF Hard.
But after watching some 1cc Hard replays, I think I can do it.. I'll try really hard to finish it this weekend. I learnt a lot of things.

Edit: really helped. Just got to Sanae boss on Hard :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 16, 2009, 11:40:24 PM
1cc HRtP Hard both paths. Only Heaven / Makai recorded so far. *prays for good video data*

Sariel is quite easy still... perhaps something will happen when I go Lunatic?
For some reason, I have so much trouble against Konngara. No idea why.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 16, 2009, 11:44:23 PM
I liken Sariel and Konngara to extra and final bosses respectively. Konngara takes a lot of legitimate skill to defeat, while Sariel, while still hard, can be memorized and made much easier.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 17, 2009, 12:18:56 AM
I liken Sariel and Konngara to extra and final bosses respectively. Konngara takes a lot of legitimate skill to defeat, while Sariel, while still hard, can be memorized and made much easier.
Well, I'll never (truly) know until I go for Lunatic~. Sariel's difficulty does vary greatly by how often she shifts attack phases though.

Oh, yes, lol-death at Stage 1, among others. I didn't even bother to restart...  >_>
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/hrtp410.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=240&u=12803292)
Horrible run in terms of score. Then again, it's Heaven / Makai.
*waits for processing*

EDIT: Part 1 is up. Go watch my humiliation. Contains HQ, use that format, yadda yadda yadda...

...and Part 2 up.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 17, 2009, 08:26:14 AM
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6357/freaking1cc.png)

*spits to side*

I know what you're all thinking: You used the crowslut, who makes the AI bug out like crazy. To that I say: So what? It's not as though it's cheating. If you don't bug out the AI, it will completely dominate you.

See, there's something I realized during my two week venture to 1cc PoDD lunatic: The game may be hard as balls, but it's...honest. That may sound corny, but really. The AI will never go easy on you. At the same time, this means that it is always possible to beat it on your first try. Whether it's your first or your tenth try, your chances will be the same. PoFV has the AI from stage 6 on be extremely cruel, and will only lighten up once you die at least once. That sickens me; the game feels like it's patronizing you, so even if you win it feels like the game LET you win.

I know I can't call this a 1cc that has the amount of effort put into it a lunatic deserves (this was on my first try after I raged from failing a hard run with Reimu). However, it is nonetheless a 1cc that ZUN intended to be done. Maybe I'll come back one day and actually use a character that has to face the AI for real, but I wouldn't count on it. I recall someone saying that after a 1cc with Aya they felt very empty. I disagree: It feels GREAT to fuck up the AI that taunts you at every turn.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on July 17, 2009, 10:31:19 AM
Is it just me, or is Reimu C by far the most impractical and/or useless shot type in SA? I've been going through Satori's cards in Hard mode and though none of the others seem really as good all around as Reimu A, they all seem to have at least some situations where they do really well - Reimu B has pretty powerful homing, Marisa A has high shotgunning power, Marisa B is good on those spellcards where you have to manoeuvre around bosses as well as being pretty good on stages, Marisa C takes down bosses pretty fast and has the safety bomb thing... but aside from having a pretty decent bomb, I can't find any redeeming feature about Reimu C. The speed boost gets me killed more often than it actually helps and having to reposition your options every time you unfocus gets annoying really fast.

Am I missing something here, or is it really that bad?
Yes, you're missing that the bolded is inaccurate.  ReimuC has sheer power on its side both in its options and bombs; ReimuB/MarisaC have neither.  ReimuB is the worst shot type in the game, easily.

The boosted speed is a pointless and total liability though.

@donut and PoFV:  Which is why you play Match Mode instead.
Also, Medicine is easier to use than Aya and just as broken.
If you want a "legitimate" 1cc Lunatic, try it with Sikieiki.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on July 17, 2009, 01:39:14 PM
Oh, you forgot MarisaB's sheer shot gunning power with It's Wood Shot at 3-3.95 power. But that requires planning and a bomb to use normally, unless you can shotgun constantly for some reason(Hell's Tomahawk has you close enough to Okuu right?)

MarisaC is the second worst shot type because EVERYTHING it can do, ReimuA does better. Oh, and all Marisa shot types are inherently inferior to Reimu ones(minus ReimuB) because Marisa's hitbox is huge.

ReimuB sucks because it's homing with horrible homing. Yeah.

Oh yeah, I 1cc'd MoF LUNATIC WITH MARISABUGGED. OBVLEGITCLEAR

...Well, not really. I got to VoWG, and because that card is fun, I tried doing it legitly. It didn't work because MarisaB is a flaming pile of crap.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 17, 2009, 07:43:14 PM
Hmm, I see... good points about the SA shot types; I guess ReimuC just doesn't really fit my playing style. Objectively better she may be compared to, say, MarisaC, but I still find myself doing way better with her than with ReimuC. I'm no good at planning which way my options should be pointing, I perform much better when I'm able to unfocus and focus as often as I want with as few complications as possible.

MarisaC is the second worst shot type because EVERYTHING it can do, ReimuA does better. Oh, and all Marisa shot types are inherently inferior to Reimu ones(minus ReimuB) because Marisa's hitbox is huge.

While I'd agree that MarisaC is really inferior to ReimuA, I have to say I like MarisaC's bomb more. Though I'm unsure about actual damage, they both have similar screen-clearing effects, and while you don't get all the grazing opportunities with MarisaC, you get the awesome safety thing going on instead. You have to react quickly with ReimuA's bomb, but with MarisaC, you could go into a difficult spellcard, pull out the bomb straight away when things look bad, not get hit, get half the power back and get the spell card capture bonus anyway. Reimu A, you pull out a bomb in the same situation, you lose a whole power point and don't get the spell bonus. On top of that, MarisaC's bomb potentially keeps you safe for a hell of a lot longer.

...She's still not that great, though. <_<

ReimuB sucks because it's homing with horrible homing. Yeah.

I find Reimu B works a lot better when you treat it not so much as a homing type rather than a forward shot type, except that you sometimes do damage even when you should be missing, if you see what I mean.

And on another note, after many, many battles against Satori, I can finally say that I have beaten every spell card in every game on Easy, Normal and Hard mode. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Suikama on July 17, 2009, 08:24:11 PM
Had one of those wierd runs where you catpure everything hard and fail everything easy. Captured Catwalk, Needle Mountian, and Rekindling, all for the first time, while at the same time failing Spleen Eater and a bunch of easy nonspells.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zetzumarshen on July 17, 2009, 10:31:53 PM
967k something cherry points on a fail training run, I've done something nice.
I still can't figure later half stage 4 though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on July 17, 2009, 11:44:27 PM
IN captured Blazing Star and Profound Field -Phantasm. Foam. Shadow- almost back to back.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Heartbeam on July 18, 2009, 12:39:44 AM
967k something cherry points on a fail training run, I've done something nice.
I still can't figure later half stage 4 though.

I am very interested in knowing more about this.  Failure as in it didn't improve your old score, or you did improve it but not to the extent where you feel it would be worthy of submitting.  A different shot type?

Are you talking about border timings for stage four or are you trying to destroy all four spread fairies without bombing?  I want to know everything if it isn't an inconvenience for you to explain.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Garlyle on July 18, 2009, 02:00:08 AM
PoFV Extra Komachi (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4002)

I love her spirit scope now.  Yes it can suck, but you can chain spirits with it like woah.

Also, I swore I was gonna lose.  Last life on Siki, and BAM, extra life just before I die.  Then, final life, I swear I'm about a frame from dying... and the game ends.  No Siki popping up with "lol u lost" lecture.  It takes me several seconds to realise I won.

@_@

I totally love PoFV after that insanity and the CRAZY fight with Yuka that goes on here.

EDIT: EXTRA CLEAR (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4008)  and Reimu is bullshit


Also, I want to go on record as saying that PoFV Extra is not stupidly easy at all.  One of the easier Windows extras, yes [along with MoF and IN] but it still requires quite a few tries, and I swear more EX attacks go off in Extra than on Lunatic - which leads to utter bull against most of the bosses.  Lyrica fight was a beast... and let's not touch Reimu, Komachi, or Siki
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 18, 2009, 09:20:52 AM
Another "duh!" breakthrough: In IN stage 4, move to the side the triangle bullet spammers are to kill them faster. I perfected the second half of the stage again, captured Marisa's second non-spell, and captured 3/5 spell cards (derp mistake on Starlight Typhoon). I ended with no deaths and 2 bombs left. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 18, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
(Note: "unclaimed" until I can do it again because I accidentally OVERWROTE MY VIDEO DATA)

-"The Books" "capture"; not at Max Rank.
-"Emerald Megalith" capture at Max Rank [considering that I didn't bomb or die anywhere after Koakuma, I can say this with fair confidence...]

EDIT: Nice lag on the data. Why it does that, I would have no idea.

EDIT 2: Oh lol, now "Silver Dragon" pulls a box on me.

EDIT 3: It looks like I found the limits of my recording. I can only record PC-98 without lag appearing on the videos. So, unless it's something that won't overflow my screen with bullets, I can't record. Isn't it sad? ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 18, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
Just got to Kanako's next to last spellcard on MoF Hard...

Sucks that I only got to her with 1 life remaining and quickly lost it. I'm impressed I lasted so long on her.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on July 19, 2009, 02:06:09 AM
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i293/Arcengal/PCBlunaticRB.jpg)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i293/Arcengal/PCBlunaticCLEAR.jpg)

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4013

....

I'm still in shock.

I died with 3 bombs during Spring Kyoto Dolls (a card I once had a perfect capture record with), and then made the biggest fuck up EVER at the start of stage 6, screwing myself out of the 1000 item extra life. But I still freaking did it...

And I did it whilst capturing my favourite card in the entire series of games...

400 practice runs on IN's Flawless Nirvana...
Hours of visualisation whilst on the train, listening to the music...
2 failed attempts that ended at Res Butterfly and Deadly Dance respectively...
And I captured Deadly Dance L earlier tonight...

It was all worth for the rush I felt when that screen above came up. I just exploded with joy and I still feel like crying even now.

I'll probably try for EoSD next but not for a while. I just feel too good to do anything.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 19, 2009, 02:45:17 AM
hahaha congrats man!~:D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 19, 2009, 07:13:40 PM
Massive congrats on the PCB 1cc!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 20, 2009, 06:55:06 PM
Captured Hourai Jewel in Spell Practice.  307 attempts.

...Son of a BITCH.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 20, 2009, 09:27:05 PM
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3379/eosdstage5nodeaths.png)

EoSD stage 5 lunatic no deaths! \o/ Considering I've grinded this stage for an hour in the past, it's kinda silly this was my first try today. I managed to perfect the stage without the loophole(the hardest part of this due to the randomness of the first half), leaving me with three bombs on Sakuya. This is exactly enough to counter her three hard attacks (her opener, her second non-spell, and Killing Doll), meaning it's imperative to get through the stage perfectly to beat it no deaths. After bombing the opener as planned, I proceed to capture Jack the Ludo Bile and surprised myself by clearing Sakuya's second non-spell. That attack's terrifying, but is really fun when it doesn't BS you. Proceeded to capture ZA WARUDO and her third non-spell, and entered Killing Doll with two bombs. I didn't hesitate to bomb spam Sakuya and kill her the cheap way, because who knew when I'd ever have the chance to beat this no deaths again?

So yay. The only two stages in EoSD I haven't beaten no deaths are stage 4 and extra now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 20, 2009, 09:54:09 PM
Huzzah!

HRtP Lunatic 1cc! Hell / Jigoku.

First time making it to Stages 19 and 20 as well [for Lunatic], so I got overwhelmed. Still... Time for the other path I think~

EDIT:
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/hrtp1c10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=241&u=12803292)
Note the time, my concentration was already sluggy to begin with. And yes, windowed 'nut. Bombspam-survival for Kikuri. And Konngara to a certain degree.

...and the program I whited out was just an inactive one that I use to reduce my output lag. My computer is weird like that.

EDIT 2: Videos are up if you want to see me survive using what, about 15-16 lives?
I swear, it feels like cheating.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 21, 2009, 08:04:41 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4033

:D After months and months of off-on effort (I can never grind an extra stage, I just don't have the resolve), I have finally beaten IN extra no deaths!!! I still made a WTF mistake on Flying Phoenix, but I always had the margin of error for one slip up. At long last I can stop struggling with this stage and start playing it with characters that DON'T break the stage portion.

...Oh yeah, and I ran a random IN lunatic run, technically this is my second time ever clearing final b with default lives, but whatever. It wasn't near as good as the run I threw away by beating up Eirin instead of Kaguya was. I cleared that 1/2, didn't even bother to save the replay.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ghaleon on July 21, 2009, 07:25:11 PM
[img width=640 height=480]
So yay. The only two stages in EoSD I haven't beaten no deaths are stage 4 and extra now.

noice.

I almost beat phantasm no bombs no deaths just like 2 days ago.. darrr! 1 death.. one really really stupid death.

I'm curious though, is there a trick to beating the 4 (or was it 3?) semi-super fairies just before sakuya midboss? Seems like every time I try, I get completely walled in somewhere even though I'm not hugging the bottom or anything, and even after killing 2 fairies immediately after spawning. It's just like wtf for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on July 21, 2009, 10:47:58 PM
Quote
I'm curious though, is there a trick to beating the 4 (or was it 3?) semi-super fairies just before sakuya midboss? Seems like every time I try, I get completely walled in somewhere even though I'm not hugging the bottom or anything, and even after killing 2 fairies immediately after spawning. It's just like wtf for me.
I usually move to the lower left corner for the three fairy shots before them, and stream those so that when the second wallfairy shows up I'm already right under it.  You can take out the fourth one soon thereafter.

Luck is still involved to a degree, but with half the walls out it's not AS bad.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 21, 2009, 10:57:14 PM
Not sure if this counts, but got my 9-year old sister to play PoFV against me. She almost got me once, even (Yuka + input lag + Medicine's poison = SLOWEST FUCK EVER).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on July 22, 2009, 06:12:53 AM
Managed a 1cc of MoF hard last night with almost no effort (Reimu B). Stage 4 smashed my face in but I had so many lives it was irrelevant. Even capped Diet Peerless Wind God and Diet VoWG. Absolute BS death at the end of Extending Arm though, about 2 seconds after I had won.

Makes me wonder why it was so hard before.  ???
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on July 22, 2009, 07:24:41 AM
Went on a Last Word killing spree. Got Tree Ocean of Hourai, Fantasy Heaven, Total Purification, and The Phantom of the Grand Guignol in one night. Booyah.

Only two more to go!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on July 22, 2009, 05:50:03 PM
I did a perfect Aya battle on normal. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Garlyle on July 23, 2009, 12:44:44 AM
UWABAMI BREAKERS CLEAR 8D

Finally

Stage 3 (The stage, not the boss) sucks hardcore, but the final boss is ridiculously awesome and overall not too hard... excepting, of course, the spinning martinis, the occasional crapshoot of the shaken wine bottle card, and the final attack which easily matches up to VoWG.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 23, 2009, 07:22:26 AM
I actually TAS'ed PCB Extra. Jesus Christ that took forever.

Unfortunately, I thought it was pretty disappointing. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4050)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: _Zac_ on July 23, 2009, 04:53:22 PM
I finally beat (1cc) Embodiment of Scarlet Devil on normal. I now have to beat Flandre.

I got around 67 million points.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on July 23, 2009, 07:01:06 PM
Finished all last words and beat PCB Extra.

I was down to nothing on Ran's last spellcard... damn, that was the most intense dodging I have ever done.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 23, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4062

I went back to PCB for today and thought I'd try a no-focus run just for the lulz.  Well, it came earlier than I expected. :O  It's actually not that bad, and certainly easier than doing it without bombs.  ReimuB's unfocused shot/bomb does pretty decent damage if you know how to use them properly, and her speed made most of the dodging doable, with a few exceptions of course(wtf Alice and Lunasa).  I ended 2/0 and also beat my highscore, which was sort of a surprise.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 23, 2009, 10:26:22 PM
Well, with all the unfocused grazing you're doing your cherry probably shot through the roof.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 23, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
Oh god somebody stop me. ;_; I think EoSD stage 4 no deaths with Marisa A is actually feasible. Marisa A Patchouli no bombs is almost no doubt harder than Remilia no bombs, because 4/5 of her spell cards are utter wat. But I can get through the stage pretty consistently bombing only on the books, leaving me with 3 bombs for Patchy. This run I made it all the way to Lava Cromlech (her last spell card), but died from lol flame bullet hitbox. I also got pretty close to capturing Agni Radiance at max rank. :O

Also, how did I capture Sylphae Horn High Level before? I honestly don't know.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on July 23, 2009, 11:11:36 PM
YES I 1CC MOF normal. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on July 24, 2009, 03:05:28 AM
YES I 1CC MOF normal. :D

Oho! Congratulations. Quite a satisfactory feelling isn't it? I remember back when i did that. That was sure times... :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 24, 2009, 07:15:09 AM
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9241/nicellsrun.png)

Finally, a LLS run I ended with a satisfactory amount of lives! :D Amazing how even after dying 7 times I end 3/1. And with Reimu "what's damage output?" A no less. I seriously wonder what a 1LC of this game would look like though...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on July 24, 2009, 12:22:29 PM
YES I 1CC MOF normal. :D

Oho! Congratulations. Quite a satisfactory feelling isn't it? I remember back when i did that. That was sure times... :)
I even captured the last spell card (which isn't really hard) anyway time to move on to hard for me. 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 24, 2009, 01:21:40 PM
Not touhou, but I decided to re-evaluate SSG Lunatic and played a bit of Practise stage 5.

...I managed to 1-miss no-bomb Erich. I might upload this later, but I'd like to get an NMNB now, I fully believe it's entirely possible, none of his attacks are particularly bullshit except his streaming+laser one wherein the streaming toothpick lasers sometimes will reflect off of the master-spark-esque laser (which, incidentally, is what killed me in the end), and the grid attack of haet. His last attack, incidentally, is one of the most fun attacks ever and it's a pity it only lasts a couple seconds.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on July 24, 2009, 04:01:47 PM
YES I 1CC MOF normal. :D

Oho! Congratulations. Quite a satisfactory feelling isn't it? I remember back when i did that. That was sure times... :)
I even captured the last spell card (which isn't really hard) anyway time to move on to hard for me.

I don't think i did that back then. Its not really hard but i'd suggest you try and time it out. That used to be a lot of fun to me. Give it a shot why don't you?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 24, 2009, 05:16:25 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

1cc PCB Normal!

After almost a week without playing anything, I did it on my first try today..

How can one get better without practicing is beyond me hahahaha

I'm really happy.

Now i'll try either IN or SA =D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 24, 2009, 07:41:22 PM
Not touhou, but I decided to re-evaluate SSG Lunatic and played a bit of Practise stage 5.

...I managed to 1-miss no-bomb Erich. I might upload this later, but I'd like to get an NMNB now, I fully believe it's entirely possible, none of his attacks are particularly bullshit except his streaming+laser one wherein the streaming toothpick lasers sometimes will reflect off of the master-spark-esque laser (which, incidentally, is what killed me in the end), and the grid attack of haet. His last attack, incidentally, is one of the most fun attacks ever and it's a pity it only lasts a couple seconds.

To trivialize that attack, just misdirect the spark slightly to one side, stay close to it, and dodge the toothpicks by tapping away from the laser, toward it, and away again.  Works every time.  But yeah, Erich's not that bad of a boss (at least compared to the monsters that come before and after him), and his first/last attacks are indeed genius.

Oh, and on the subject of SSG, I was toying around with the Graphics options earlier and found a configuration that ended up eliminating about 90% of the input lag I had in the game, which makes me ridiculously happy.  No more retarded clipdeaths to Vivit and Marisa... feels good man.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on July 24, 2009, 09:06:15 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

1cc PCB Normal!

After almost a week without playing anything, I did it on my first try today..

How can one get better without practicing is beyond me hahahaha

I'm really happy.

Now i'll try either IN or SA =D
Go with In it's easier. :D

Oh yeah who did you 1CC it with?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sentinel on July 24, 2009, 09:53:47 PM
I managed a no-death run of IN extra, finally. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4076)

I hate all of Mokou's non-spellcard attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: shadowbringer on July 24, 2009, 10:08:34 PM
@donut: it would look like this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2802304413208178487 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5128279573266503059 (edited, wrong video, lol xD)

(with difficulty ranking management, the above becomes this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QECF8UDdCik  xD )
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 24, 2009, 11:30:32 PM
How funny. After a couple of RAGEDEATHs on Chen, I have my best stage 3 run so far. Karma-licious!
EDIT: Did I say stage 3? I meant Stage 3 and 4!
ANOTHER EDIT: Now It's a rather good stage 5
welp
YET ANOTHER EDIT: SakuyaB 1cc get. SUCK IT YUYUKO
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on July 24, 2009, 11:52:10 PM
I managed to get to stage 3 of SA lunatic on my second attempt.

Not so much of an achievement but I feel the need to salvage *something* from that horrible experience.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 25, 2009, 02:15:47 AM
To trivialize that attack, just misdirect the spark slightly to one side, stay close to it, and dodge the toothpicks by tapping away from the laser, toward it, and away again.  Works every time.  But yeah, Erich's not that bad of a boss (at least compared to the monsters that come before and after him), and his first/last attacks are indeed genius.
His first attack is also entirely too much fun. Screen movement+fast bullets = yes. Also thanks, that does trivialize it. Now it's just a matter of getting a good run in.

Also VIVIT's first theme is one of the best ZUN songs ever, seriously.

This game's Lunatic honestly wouldn't be that bad too, if it gave you about 2 more lives, didn't have anti-deathbombs (fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff) and didn't have a couple minor hateful things (like the multiple use of ships kamikaze'ing at you while other danmaku has been sprayed on the screen, see for instance the laser grid before the midboss in SSG Extra)

Quote from: Azinth
Oh, and on the subject of SSG, I was toying around with the Graphics options earlier and found a configuration that ended up eliminating about 90% of the input lag I had in the game, which makes me ridiculously happy.  No more retarded clipdeaths to Vivit and Marisa... feels good man.
How? I for one also hate clipdeaths on Marisa. Also deaths due to starting movement a millisecond too late due to input lag.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on July 25, 2009, 03:09:21 AM
Pulled out a 1cc of IN Hard with Alice Solo a few hours ago.  First try.

I think I'll practice some things and then try it again before posting a replay.  The run was pretty decent, but there were a lot of cards that I should have capped but didn't for various stupid reasons.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on July 25, 2009, 04:44:21 AM
As part of a silly summer project to 1cc all of the Windows Lunatics with each character (with IN probably limited to teams, since 1ccs with some of those solos are utterly unreasonable), got a re-1cc of EoSD with Reimu A on my first real run after not playing Touhou for a week ("real run" meaning I made it to Rumia without dying because I'm stupidly trying to grab every power item ever).

Because that run unlocked Extra for Reimu A for me, I decided to play Extra for the hell of it, having mostly a lulzy run (at least a death and a bomb before Flan, and neither one as a result of Patchy), reaching QED with 0/1, saying "screw the bomb, capture or bust", and recapping QED.

I'd gladly trade the second QED cap for a Scarlet Gensokyo cap though...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 25, 2009, 04:49:49 AM
How? I for one also hate clipdeaths on Marisa. Also deaths due to starting movement a millisecond too late due to input lag.

This might sound somewhat silly, but:

1.  Change the BitDepth to 8-bit
2.  Go to DrawMode and randomly cycle through the options for a bit, then change it to 60.

Yes, I'm serious.  You should feel an exceptional improvement in input afterword.  If you still feel some lag, go back and repeat step 2 some more.  You also need to do step 2 whenever you start up the game.  It's inconvenient, but a price I'm willing to pay for better control.  Keep in mind that the cause of the lag might be different for your machine than for mine, so YMMV.  I've no idea what causes the lag and why this fixes it, but I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on July 25, 2009, 05:03:25 AM
I'd gladly trade the second QED cap for a Scarlet Gensokyo cap though...

Scarlet Gensokyo capture.  No screenshot, unfortunately, but I did it, and that's all I care about.

1/33 history, probably closer to 1/30 when you subtract encounters with Scarlet Gensokyo -Hard-.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 25, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
Divine Treasure "Buddhist Diamond" (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4084) (Lunatic) capture, Reimu Solo.

*insert last video before I leave for university* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjbTgbZmMo8)  ;_;

...of course I'll still be playing at university (like I always had) but I won't be able to upload as much.

Fluke dodges boxing are flukes.

It certainly helps knowing that triangular bullets and lasers are small. It also helps knowing that you can "fly" through laser walls if you're fast enough. This will only work in the first 15 seconds or so though, since after that, the stars start to fill up your screen.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 25, 2009, 12:44:34 PM
*insert last video before I leave for university* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjbTgbZmMo8)  ;_;
ONE OF US!
ONE OF US!
In other news, FINALLY captured Phoenix Tail.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: N-Forza on July 25, 2009, 02:05:47 PM
I finally got around to 1cc'ing Easy Modo with everyone and decided to tackle a couple of Last Words for kicks. I managed to get Mystia's with Border Team with little problem, but Reisen's with Scarlet Team took a lot of trial and error, but after about 40 tries, booyah.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 25, 2009, 03:04:30 PM
@Azinth: any advice on dodging second-form VIVIT's screen-sweep vertical laser mesh attack? Very thankfully she only uses it once, so a bomb the moment you see the laser lines being drawn will work, but is there any way to like. Cap the damn thing at all?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on July 25, 2009, 04:17:06 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

1cc PCB Normal!

After almost a week without playing anything, I did it on my first try today..

How can one get better without practicing is beyond me hahahaha

I'm really happy.

Now i'll try either IN or SA =D
Go with In it's easier. :D

Oh yeah who did you 1CC it with?

I finished PCB with Reimu-A :D
I think IN is too hard :P

I'll practice it a bit today
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ghost333 on July 25, 2009, 05:02:19 PM
me messing around with MOF after owning kaguya with youmu on lunatic
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4085
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4086
perhaps sb with TAS can make those very beutifull (DRAKE?)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 25, 2009, 06:54:00 PM
@Azinth: any advice on dodging second-form VIVIT's screen-sweep vertical laser mesh attack? Very thankfully she only uses it once, so a bomb the moment you see the laser lines being drawn will work, but is there any way to like. Cap the damn thing at all?

Do you mean the second pattern she uses against you, right after the Erich lookalike opener?  For that, the lasers don't remain lethal for very long and usually disappear once the bullets come down, so you just find a safespot between the lasers and focus on the bullets after that.  (Psst, or you could just shotgun her as she sweeps across the screen and the phase will end before the attack even gets going)

And btw, did that input trick work for you?  I'm actually sort of curious as to whether or not it works for others or if I'm the only one.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 25, 2009, 09:20:14 PM
(Psst, or you could just shotgun her as she sweeps across the screen and the phase will end before the attack even gets going)
Derp. Forgot just how abuseable shotgun is in this game >_>

On a side note, what the FUCK is UP with VIVIT's first form flower attack? It's hellish speed micrododging with gaps blocked, exacerbated by the fact that I honestly think developing hitbox sense for VIVIT is completely fucking impossible, *AND* for some reason it takes 2 bombs to end, even IF I shotgun during the entirety of the attack. What the fuck?!? This is easily the hardest attack in the entire fight.

Quote from: Azinth
And btw, did that input trick work for you?  I'm actually sort of curious as to whether or not it works for others or if I'm the only one.
I can't run the game at >30fps, renders too slowly for me. Switching to 8-bit did, somehow noticeably fix input lag though. wtf.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 25, 2009, 09:37:42 PM
Capped "Divining Crop" on Lunatic. I watched Donut's replay and started stage practice.

I died only once until VoWG, and it was a stupid death on Yamato Torus.

Then I used 4 lives and 12 bombs on VoWG. Wow. It was awesome though, with the spell lasting 2 minutes and Kanako explosing at the end.

I was trembling the whole time, even though that run was completely meaningless. I can't stand any kind of pressure.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 25, 2009, 10:10:21 PM
Hmm? Which run? I don't recall any awesome MoF stage 6 replays I've done... I've pulled off a few no deaths runs of Kanako, but that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on July 25, 2009, 11:25:10 PM
Hmm? Which run? I don't recall any awesome MoF stage 6 replays I've done... I've pulled off a few no deaths runs of Kanako, but that's pretty much it.

It's a full game run that desynced on stage 4. The one where you died like 3 times on stage 2 and still got a 1cc somehow.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 25, 2009, 11:48:48 PM
Oh...that one. I made a much better one where I clear with 4 lives remaining FYI.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: DarkslimeZ on July 26, 2009, 12:46:48 AM
Cleared MoF extra stage. <3 I haven't even 1cc'd hard mode yet.

Pretty epic. The cards I died on amounted to her fourth card and her second survival card; otherwise i just bombed. I'm a lot prouder of this run than my other extra clears to date :O

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4091
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on July 26, 2009, 01:08:22 AM
Cleared Phantasm!

That second to last card is VERY rough. I came out of it with nothing left. Thought I was dead for sure. And then...

Two familiars, circling the screen, Yukari resting transparent in the background... I've seen this before! In IN...!

Capped it with ease, and finally saw the end of the stage.  ;D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sentinel on July 26, 2009, 02:44:56 AM
Yay, I made it to Yuyuko's very last spellcard with Reimu B on Lunatic, where I proceeded to die.  It's not really much of an accomplishment, but now I'm closer than ever to my first Lunatic 1CC, so yay, again.

HAHA YES FIRST LUNATIC 1CC GET (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4092)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 26, 2009, 05:16:14 AM
Interesting. I died while the bullets were fading on Orin's opener, got the star piece and got the star for her first card, too.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on July 26, 2009, 06:35:57 PM
I got to Gengetu in LLS Extra, which unfortunately is an achievement.  That meant that the b.s. in the stage wasn't as bad as usual and I finally figured out where NOT to stay in Mugetu's curtain of blue needle bullet things.

Is there any convenient way to get around the Bullets That Come From Nowhere that show up periodically?  I really want to have those bombs around.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 26, 2009, 06:46:35 PM
As far as I know, there's no special trick to dodge those (unless you mean the first one, in which case it's simple streaming).

But really, the stage isn't that difficult once you understand how everything works. I've managed to perfect it twice before, especially once I learned that grazewhoring the beginning to get another life WASN'T the right move.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on July 26, 2009, 07:30:45 PM
Quote
grazewhoring the beginning to get another life WASN'T the right move.
...wait, it's not?

*watches video*
So it looks like the bullet spirals in the stage can be gotten through by tapping against the lanes... and all the explosions at the end of the stage are aimed, so it's a matter of guessing learning where they occur.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 26, 2009, 07:40:52 PM
No, it's not. At least once you're good enough to beat the stage without that life in advance. See, Gengetu's third phase is extremely easy and exists for once reason only: To be a grazewhore's dream. It's very easy to get 10 million points just from grazing the attack, meaning that unless you did REALLY badly on the stage, you're guaranteed to reach 30 million and get the last extend. The enemies at the beginning drop power items, which you need to be able to kill the wall spamming enemies before they completely flood the screen with BS, so naturally with all this killing the enemies and getting the same points from Gengetu's third phase is the best option.

And as far as I know, the position of the explosions at the end are random (don't quote me on this though). However, because they're aimed, as long as you don't panic it's not that hard to dodge even if one's right next to you.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on July 26, 2009, 07:54:14 PM
Gengetu's third phase would be easier without that blue bar curtain :(

Okay, I see what you're talking about.
FTR, Marisa >> Reimu for this Extra, right?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 26, 2009, 08:51:29 PM
Marisa is broken in LLS. But yeah, either way she's better, even if you use the non-broken Marisa B.

And as for that "wall", it's aimed, so tap once and it will all miss.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 27, 2009, 08:22:23 AM
MAN that felt good. I beat Aya no deaths (though that's not a big deal with bomb spam, but bomb spam was only used on Peerless Wind God), captured Momizi twice in two consecutive runs, and demonstrated how random Aya's third non-card is by doing a no movement clear of it. :V I died once on the BS waves though, so it's not a no deaths run (just because I've DONE them once the whole way through doesn't mean it's not luck-based. :<).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on July 27, 2009, 11:22:26 AM
Remembered someone in the Stream chat saying they were trying to beat EoSD with Reimu A (Normal) as their first 1cc.

I tried it for laughs and died only once at Sakuya, capturing 23/26 cards, and got a PERFECT Remi fight. That felt real good, considering I struggled with her about a year ago trying to get MY first 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 27, 2009, 12:52:52 PM
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/untitl28.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=242&u=12803292)
Never thought I would do this during a Stage Practice Run, as opposed to Spell Practice.

Also, consistency in surviving midboss Eirin! [6A]

Of course, I panic bomb that somewhat ridiculous Spell Card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 27, 2009, 05:48:31 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4100
Ignore the fact that I forgot to check the cleared box.
EDIT: Today's a good day. I capture Charming Siege the first time I face it!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 27, 2009, 11:06:48 PM
"Spin the Cephalic Plate" timeout (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4102).

Confirming that Nitori does indeed "follow" you, albeit sometimes not very much.

...that would've been my first capture of a certain Spell Card too  ;_;

*runs*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 27, 2009, 11:12:13 PM
MAN that felt good. I beat Aya no deaths (though that's not a big deal with bomb spam, but bomb spam was only used on Peerless Wind God), captured Momizi twice in two consecutive runs, and demonstrated how random Aya's third non-card is by doing a no movement clear of it. :V I died once on the BS waves though, so it's not a no deaths run (just because I've DONE them once the whole way through doesn't mean it's not luck-based. :<).
Capping Momizi twice in two consecutive runs is still impressive as all hell.

I honestly think that pattern is the hardest thing in MoF, much harder than anything Sanae or Kanako will ever throw at you.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on July 27, 2009, 11:47:03 PM
Confirming that Nitori does indeed "follow" you, albeit sometimes not very much.

Mmm.. Every boss in the Windows series outside of EoSD and UFO follows you. Although, when they do follow you, it can either be a big leap or a little nudge. A handful of strategies that I use involve bosses making big leaps, so when they only nudge, disastrous results can occur :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on July 28, 2009, 12:03:30 AM
...Jesus Christ.  I timed out Wondrous Concerto Grosso (Prismrivers' Last Card) on lunatic.  Though I was pretty much just huddling in the corner like a scared bunny rabbit and praying to not get hit for the last 20 seconds or so; I never realized that the thing actually keeps getting faster and faster all the way up until it times out. 

Doing this gave me possibly the most masochistic challenge idea ever:  Perfect PCB stage 4.  Masochistic because the stage, while memorization based, is not exactly trivial to perfect by any means and of course really fucking long.  And the Prismrivers, while not that hard as far as stage 4 bosses go, have a handful of really bitchy attacks that can easily make the perfection of said long stage mean absolutely nothing.  Let's see how long it takes me to break.

Edit: Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4103)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 28, 2009, 01:47:20 AM
Huh. Didn't expect that. Tried EoSD Extra with Reimu A, and I messed up the stage portion pretty badly, getting to Flan with 3 lives and no bombs, but then I perfected her until And Then Will There Be None. What with the homing type and all I thought I'd do well on the stage and badly on the boss, not the other way round. At any rate, EoSD Extra clear with all shot types.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 28, 2009, 04:57:15 AM
HELL FUCKING CATYES

I went into Stage 4 SA with four lives. I was sure I wasn't going to even make it past Orin.
BUT I DID IT YEAH 1CC SA HARD (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4106)
THIS MEANS

GRADUATION TO LUNATIC YEEEEEAAAAAHHHH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGY3KPMDUv4)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on July 28, 2009, 07:35:33 AM
GRADUATION TO LUNATIC YEEEEEAAAAAHHHH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGY3KPMDUv4)

*plays Pomp and Circumstance



by the way i no death no bombed kanako marisab im obviously the best toohoo player evarz (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4107)

(I was bored.  In all seriousness, if you haven't truly witnessed MarisaB hax, watch the replay.  Enlighten yourself.  Oh, and typing out that mockery of the English language up there made me die a little inside.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 28, 2009, 03:14:47 PM
BUT I DID IT YEAH 1CC SA HARD (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4106)
THIS MEANS

GRADUATION TO LUNATIC YEEEEEAAAAAHHHH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGY3KPMDUv4)

Congrats! SA is a bitch to beat.

And HELL YES, finally got my MS Hard 1cc (with a life to spare, too). Jesus Christ that took SO MANY MORE TRIES than it should have done. The amount of random stupid deaths for different reasons while trying to get that was ridiculous.

Sooo that just leaves SoEW as the only single player danmaku Touhou game left for me to get my Hard 1cc on.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: RainfallYoshi on July 29, 2009, 06:26:17 AM
I... finally did it. The goal I've been working on ever since I started playing Touhou has finally been beaten.

I have defeated Flandre Scarlet. I couldn't even believe it either because I had 2 rather bullshitty deaths with full bomb stock while I was fighting her. One death was on Kagome Kagome where I just kinda ran into a bullet for no reason at all. Another was on Maze of Love, where I just didn't move and got a bullet to the face.

It was sloppy, it was horrible, I totally cheesed Starbow Break with the safe spot.

I don't care though, my goal was to beat EoSD Extra and I've finally done it. This is just huge for me.

I always said that I wanted EoSD to be the first Touhou I beat, and today it's come true.

Quite a brilliant moment in my Touhou career...

I think my next step will be MoF. I was originally thinking PCB or IN but after randomly listening to Native Faith I just really want to take on Suwako. I hear she's one of the easiest EX bosses too...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 29, 2009, 08:36:39 AM
Yesssssssssss! I finally captured Peta Flare! I admit, it's pretty fun as long as blue bullets don't come ramming you out of nowhere.

I also timed out Subterranean Sun for the first time, just to see what the pull is like...it's unreal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 29, 2009, 08:54:53 AM
Yesssssssssss! I finally captured Peta Flare! I admit, it's pretty fun as long as blue bullets don't come ramming you out of nowhere.

I also timed out Subterranean Sun for the first time, just to see what the pull is like...it's unreal.
The blue bullets are (usually) concealed behind the flares, but can be predicted easily.

The pull for "Subterranean Sun" is ridiculous for t<30, especially when the Spell Card is clearing.

Confession: I suffer from "crisscross tapping" syndrome. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4129) I can perfect it quite easily, it's just that I'm so susceptible to dying on "Source of Rains".

EDIT: ...I think I just figured out how to do Aya's ridiculous donuts.

EDIT 2:

The yellow dot is approximate (3 pixel error) casting point. Brown lines are references for this dot. The focus is the teal lines and bar at the bottom. Focus on the more dominant "Enemy" icon's relative position to these two zones.

Note that also, the closer Aya is to the bottom of the screen, the smaller the space is. The space will only reduce in width from the outside though.

I could work the exact zone shape, but that would be completely unnecessary...  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 29, 2009, 07:25:25 PM
I don't quite understand how this will help me not get clip deathed by that attack to no end...

EDIT: It didn't help me, but I managed to finally pull off MoF stage 4 lunatic no deaths.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 29, 2009, 09:21:51 PM
How silly of me not to add a replay.

Standard run (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4134).
It's a matter of staying in the zone.

It certainly help me clear it every time. Once you learn where the zones are (I should make another one removing the other "Enemy" icon), it's a matter of positioning and you're all set.

EDIT: 1-miss clear of a timeout. It was at the start too.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: wailofthebanshee on July 29, 2009, 09:26:12 PM
Capping Momizi twice in two consecutive runs is still impressive as all hell.

I honestly think that pattern is the hardest thing in MoF, much harder than anything Sanae or Kanako will ever throw at you.
Agreed on that. I also think Sanae is the second easiest second last boss in the series though (only second to reisen).

Well, as for me, I beat IN on hard but that's about it for anything that could be considered an accomplishment :V I've beat most of the others on normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 29, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Aya's 2nd Non-Spell Phase timeout + Peerless. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4135) Also, ignore me trying to reach that safespot; I don't know where it is for MoF. It does exist though, because I entered the spot before...

I swear there's a trick to doing Peerless a lot better. ~11% success disturbs me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 29, 2009, 10:23:18 PM
There's one trick to Peerless Wind God: Get in the corner and pray. It doesn't matter how good you are, this attack has an element of luck to it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on July 30, 2009, 12:52:12 AM
Perfect Stage 6 MoF Lunatic (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4136)

Notes:

-Freak dodging during "Yamato Torus". That is all.
-Theory that "VoWG" can be micro-memorized, but to do that for the entire duration is somewhat ridiculous.

Now to time it out.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Gambit on July 30, 2009, 04:40:29 PM
I defeated Yukari for the first time. Now all I have to do is beat Flandre and I will have cleared all Windows extras.   
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 30, 2009, 09:10:57 PM
Woo, captured Boundary of Life and Death!

...And ALMOST captured Danmaku Bounded Field. <_< I managed the first four waves easily enough without even using the safespot on the fourth wave, but I can't for the life of me beat the final wave, ever. Even after watching videos I have no clue really what to do, everything happens too fast for me to see what's actually going on and then I get raped for dodging in a random direction. Any tips?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on July 30, 2009, 09:40:58 PM
Stop dodging in a random direction and dodge in the direction you're supposed to.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on July 31, 2009, 02:21:33 PM
Stop dodging in a random direction and dodge in the direction you're supposed to.

Very informative advice, although I guess I walked into that one.

Anywho, just did another run and got my first captures of Double Death Butterfly and Danmaku Bounded Field, which means all Phantasm cards captured. Woo!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on July 31, 2009, 09:12:38 PM
-Theory that "VoWG" can be micro-memorized, but to do that for the entire duration is somewhat ridiculous.
No. There is a degree of randomness in how each wave is generated.

Micromem'ing it is silly anyway, just learn to parse the waves just before they're flung at you and you'll have no problem capping it most of the time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 01, 2009, 08:30:54 AM
-Theory that "VoWG" can be micro-memorized, but to do that for the entire duration is somewhat ridiculous.
No. There is a degree of randomness in how each wave is generated.

Micromem'ing it is silly anyway, just learn to parse the waves just before they're flung at you and you'll have no problem capping it most of the time.
"Instantaneous parsing" would've been a better term for what I was trying to describe now that I think about it. That's what I get for nearly falling asleep while I type (long day of trying to do this and that).

In other news... not really much of an achievement, but still:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4156

This run was done with no form of practice; I haven't touched (PCB) Lunatic in about 3 months, and that was just doing Stages 1 and 2. i.e. I haven't even tried Stages 3+ for Lunatic. Hard was nothing like it really. Haven't touched PCB save for Extra / Phantasm at a more recent date for that matter.

Alice was surprisingly easy, save for my horrible slamming into bullets, boxing myself at certain points, etc. . Random things which happen when I'm unfamiliar with the "environment", such as mass twitching (you'll see a lot of that if you dare watch).

I would watch it just for Stage 3.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 01, 2009, 09:47:35 AM
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2175/patchyhasbeenpicked.png)

It's fitting that the livestream is playing an Angry German Kid parody right now. Because that's what I'm feeling after the 40 minutes it took to do this. I finally pulled this off with Marisa B. Sure, Marisa A stage 4 no deaths would be better, but my condition was specifically to beat stage 4 without dying, Marisa A would just be a demonstration of skill.

The insulting thing though? I captured the books before this (count that as an accomplishment too, it's only my third time), then got killed by the EXACT last point I could have died on the stage with Marisa A. Had this not happened, I could have bomb spammed Patchy on Marisa A. But continuing, with the lowered rank...Marisa A Patchy is MUCH easier below max rank. I captured Agni Radiance and Lava Cromlech easily with the lowered rank, and I almost got Sylphae Horn High Level.

With this, the only stage I have left to beat no deaths in EoSD is extra. Sadly, I absolutely cannot grind extras; they're too long.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 01, 2009, 04:46:19 PM
Bah. Got VoWG to 1/6th of it's health. I would've finally beat MoF Lunatic if I didn't mess up putting all four options onto Kanako(drop to three power during Source of Rains, then get the power in the proper position). I only got 2 on Kanako, actually. Got it down to half before my first bomb(with all four options, it would be around 1/3 left, compared to just 2), then bombed again, then died.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 01, 2009, 07:37:11 PM
SoEW Hard 1cc, and by extension every one player danmaku Touhou Hard 1cc'd. Woo!

Now for the Lunatics... <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 01, 2009, 08:10:02 PM
Huzzah, got a Perfect ReimuB Patchy battle.  Though the fact that I died to the preboss fairy waves might have helped just a tiny bit.  Out of curiosity, how long does it take to get to max rank if you don't bomb or die at all?  Even with that death, Mercury Poison and Emerald Megalith were both moving pretty damn fast by the time I got to them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 01, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
Huzzah, got a Perfect ReimuB Patchy battle.  Though the fact that I died to the preboss fairy waves might have helped just a tiny bit.  Out of curiosity, how long does it take to get to max rank if you don't bomb or die at all?  Even with that death, Mercury Poison and Emerald Megalith were both moving pretty damn fast by the time I got to them.

Quote from: me
Finally pulled off a no deaths Patchy battle.

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8886/enough02.jpg)

Oh, and dying just before Patchy means you faced her much lower than max rank. To face her max rank, you pretty much can't die during the stage at all.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 01, 2009, 08:26:25 PM
pic of raeg

B-b-but I died/bombed during the stage.   And I'll probably never do this again in my entire life because her first/last cards are 90% luck.  I'm not a bad person I swear :-[
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 02, 2009, 12:21:48 AM
Just shut up and kiss me watch (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4162).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 02, 2009, 12:49:43 AM
No seriously, why is it always the day I do something amazing that you all decide to do something even more amazing? ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 02, 2009, 12:53:55 AM
No seriously, why is it always the day I do something amazing that you all decide to do something even more amazing? ;_;
My accomplishment is amazing now?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 02, 2009, 01:15:41 AM
It seems all the cool kids show off by perfecting PCB stage 3. I have no chance of ever pulling that off. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 02, 2009, 01:24:29 AM
In other news... not really much of an achievement, but still:

*sniffle*

My 1cc wasn't an achievement...?  :-[
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 02, 2009, 01:26:08 AM
Hell yes! Just managed a no deaths run of PCB Extra. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4164)

No seriously, why is it always the day I do something amazing that you all decide to do something even more amazing? ;_;

Well, here's something less amazing! :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 02, 2009, 01:52:08 AM
It seems all the cool kids show off by perfecting PCB stage 3. I have no chance of ever pulling that off. ;_;
I believe I spent something like 30 minutes learning how to spiral (which appears to start at random positions, so imagine the number of spawn deaths I had), 2+ hours grinding the stage portion because I kept getting walled. Another 1 hour or so was also devoted to dying to Non-Spells and restarting. And the occasional walling by "Maiden's Bunraku".

Wait, why am I saying this? You can do it! Or describe where you continually mess up and I'll see if I have the details on it to give you apart from "just dodge it".

*sniffle*

My 1cc wasn't an achievement...?  :-[
It's an achievement if you count it as one.

EDIT: That replay I put up isn't a 1cc; I end on Stage 5.

Ahh... so close to surviving Lunasa's 2nd Non-Spell Phase. Going to take a break from PCB I think. I just can't control myself properly in this, and it isn't because of input lag, because I have no such thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: triangles on August 02, 2009, 02:08:38 AM
I beat PoFV!
Sure it was on easy and I used a continue, but I finally beat a Touhou game hooray!

Baby steps, baby steps....

Everyone says IN is the easiest, but I always run out of time on the 5th/6th stages and game over  :-\
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 02, 2009, 02:34:55 AM
It seems all the cool kids show off by perfecting PCB stage 3. I have no chance of ever pulling that off. ;_;

Eh, PCB stage 3 is sort of overrated in difficulty to be honest.  A lot of the patterns in the stage are static, and can be made significantly easier by memorization/practice.  The biggest things you have to watch out for are the latter half of the stage, Alice's boss opener, and Benevolent Orleans Dolls, and even those get much easier with experience.  Don't sell yourself short; if you can perfect stage 5 then you certainly have what it takes to do stage 3.  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on August 02, 2009, 06:12:30 AM
Eh, PCB stage 3 is sort of overrated in difficulty to be honest.  A lot of the patterns in the stage are static, and can be made significantly easier by memorization/practice.  The biggest things you have to watch out for are the latter half of the stage, Alice's boss opener, and Benevolent Orleans Dolls, and even those get much easier with experience.  Don't sell yourself short; if you can perfect stage 5 then you certainly have what it takes to do stage 3.  ;)
Erm, not really. Yes, it's *true* the only things you have to watch out for are the part of the stage between Alice second midboss and Alice boss, Alice's boss opener, and Benevolent, but Alice's boss opener is extremely hard, Benevolent is bullshit, and the second half of the stage, between Alice second midboss and Alice boss is a shitstorm clusterfuck of pure bullshit. I have 2 runs that are perfect Alice battles but still haven't perfected this stage just because of that portion, which I think I survive without dying/bombing/breaking a border about once every 20 runs. Seriously.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: G_gglypuff on August 02, 2009, 06:25:31 AM
I have finally beaten Shuusou Gyoku! Yay!  :)
I have no idea what goes on after I beat Vivit though. She's saved, right? ... Right?
And what the hell are those machines doing near the shrine? I mean, there's a shrine gate and Marisa using Remilia's move.

Everyone says IN is the easiest, but I always run out of time on the 5th/6th stages and game over  :-\

I also don't get how they think that. To me, only SA is harder.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on August 02, 2009, 07:27:46 AM
Erm, not really. Yes, it's *true* the only things you have to watch out for are the part of the stage between Alice second midboss and Alice boss, Alice's boss opener, and Benevolent, but Alice's boss opener is extremely hard, Benevolent is bullshit, and the second half of the stage, between Alice second midboss and Alice boss is a shitstorm clusterfuck of pure bullshit.

And then, when the fabled run finally does show up (perfecting everything up to and including Benevolent), you still have to worry about the rest of the battle and your nerves. Screwing up Alice's last card isn't a particularly rare thing to do :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on August 02, 2009, 07:28:58 AM
YEESSS!!!

I cleared Perfect Cherry Blossom on my first run!!
... on Easy... with... two... continues...

The point of this thread is not to impress people, right? Right!?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 02, 2009, 08:46:53 AM
YEESSS!!!

I cleared Perfect Cherry Blossom on my first run!!
... on Easy... with... two... continues...

The point of this thread is not to impress people, right? Right!?

Of course it is, fool. People don't post in this thread until they can beat lunatic no focus with the worst shot type available. Get lost, n00b.

...I'm kidding. We all start off like that. Congrats, I hope you keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 02, 2009, 03:12:33 PM
Captured Soaring Bishamonten!
But the rest of the stage was incredibly crappy, so it probably was karma acting up.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 02, 2009, 10:12:23 PM
Went from being a tired, useless player with no confidence this morning to doubling my high score on MoF hard this evening.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 03, 2009, 12:28:47 AM
Perfect Stage 6 MoF Lunatic (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4136)
WIFSKFVHXCOHVLZVHZXVIZOXGJNZLXVZXHFZLDGLZXNHGZXHGNXLHXHXNGJLGZ
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 03, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
I can perfect the stage portion of MoF Stage 6 Lunatic, although it's pretty easy with MarisaC. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 03, 2009, 01:21:37 AM
If it weren't for the fact that I completely and totally suck at Kanako's opener, perfecting Kanako would actually be quite feasible to me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 03, 2009, 01:25:05 AM
It's the opener and VoWG.

Sure, just two of the HARDEST ATTACKS IN THE SERIES THAT HAVE OWNED ME SOME 120 TIMES RUNNING, THAT'S ALL, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S DIFFICULT or anything.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 03, 2009, 01:59:49 AM
FFFFFFFFFFFFF

I hate Kanako's second card, due to LOLCLIPDEATH with Marisa. It's easy as hell with Reimu, but I get clipped EVERY TIME when I use Marisa.

Oh, but I perfected putting 4 options on Kanako. =3 Just gotta stop dying at stupid places.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on August 03, 2009, 05:12:05 AM
It's the opener and VoWG.

Sure, just two of the HARDEST ATTACKS IN THE SERIES THAT HAVE OWNED ME SOME 120 TIMES RUNNING, THAT'S ALL, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S DIFFICULT or anything.

What's troubling with the opener for you? If you're having trouble understanding the pattern, play it on easy/medium/hard to see a slower incarnation so that your eyes can actually see the twisting of the bullets. If you already have that down, my only tip is to look above your hitbox. Know, from memory and a general "feel," just where your sprite is. If you've played Touhou long enough, this isn't something that's too hard to do. Once you get that down, just look an inch or two above your sprite, and dodge bullets based on their path in comparison to where you believe your sprite is located. Occasionally looking back and forth is fine, and sometimes necessary.

You'd be surprised how fast those 10 seconds go by once you master it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 03, 2009, 05:48:35 AM
It simply goes too fast for me to keep up with it. Too confusing, too much going on. X_X

Anyway, I just perfected Nitori. \o/ Still some mistakes on the stage though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on August 03, 2009, 08:06:21 AM
YEESSS!!!

I cleared Perfect Cherry Blossom on my first run!!
... on Easy... with... two... continues...

The point of this thread is not to impress people, right? Right!?

Of course it is, fool. People don't post in this thread until they can beat lunatic no focus with the worst shot type available. Get lost, n00b.

...I'm kidding. We all start off like that. Congrats, I hope you keep up the good work.
Thank you. This was the first time that I actually cleared a Touhou game of any kind, so the moment was breathtaking.

On a related note, I managed to clear Perfect Cherry Blossom on Easy again, but this time with Marisa B (the first time was with option A) and I only used one continue (progress!!).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 03, 2009, 01:20:07 PM
try IN or MoF on easy.

PCB is actually the hardest or second hardest game on easy mode..
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: triangles on August 03, 2009, 01:40:32 PM
I beat IN with Team Reimu on easy yesterday!
(had to use a continue but whatever)

Two down.... alot more to go  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on August 03, 2009, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: royalflare.net
☆983,372,440 (64.0)     0.07%     霊夢A     Extra     2009/08/03 15:21     Phar
◇983,104,110 (64.0)     0.07%     霊夢A     Extra     2009/07/15 13:06     coa

Eh. Could have been better, but I'll take it. :V

If my stage run hadn't been so abysmal and I hadn't ended Iron Rings at the worst possible timing, I would've flown past the 984 million. As I expected, the zigzag non-spells are really important faith sources, but especially timing-wise they're mostly luck-based, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 03, 2009, 04:59:55 PM
You sure like pushing coa to the brink, don't you?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: SP on August 03, 2009, 05:03:56 PM
Finally got my StB all clear.

What's with the Newspaper Extra 1 thing after the Ex stages?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: CK Crash on August 03, 2009, 05:48:40 PM
Finally got my StB all clear.

What's with the Newspaper Extra 1 thing after the Ex stages?

It was an extra space reserved for additional downloadable levels that was never utilized.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 03, 2009, 06:15:16 PM
Finally got my StB all clear.

One of these days, I'll actually get around to doing that, but StB is just a tad too much for me to care right now (I mostly blame Aya's speed more than the actual danmaku).



For now, I finally got around to capturing all of Satori's Recollection cards, which leaves Patchy's Elemental Signs and Border of Life and Death for Lunatic/Extra cards that I still need to capture.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 03, 2009, 09:58:27 PM
Erm, not really. Yes, it's *true* the only things you have to watch out for are the part of the stage between Alice second midboss and Alice boss, Alice's boss opener, and Benevolent, but Alice's boss opener is extremely hard, Benevolent is bullshit, and the second half of the stage, between Alice second midboss and Alice boss is a shitstorm clusterfuck of pure bullshit. I have 2 runs that are perfect Alice battles but still haven't perfected this stage just because of that portion, which I think I survive without dying/bombing/breaking a border about once every 20 runs. Seriously.

To be fair, that section only becomes bullshit with Marisa.  With Reimu it's hard but fair (I can capture it about 1/2 the time), and Cheesekuya all but trivializes it.  Though Marisa is probably the best at taking down Alice, so it sort of evens out.

And as for that comment about PCB st.3 in general, I worded it badly so just forget I said it.  It is of course an extremely hard stage to perfect.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on August 03, 2009, 10:19:19 PM
I beat IN with Team Reimu on easy yesterday!
(had to use a continue but whatever)

Two down.... alot more to go  :V
It only counts if you 1CC clear it. :O

Try again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 03, 2009, 10:35:57 PM
I beat IN Extra with the Border Team. Died twice to Fujiyama Volcano, though now at least I know what to do to capture it. Doesn't seem that hard now, though it'll still eat a bomb most of the time.
And I don't know how to get the safespot in Xu Fu's Dimension, so I just dodge it normally. It's not like it's really hard anyway.

I'm really lucky Mokou's last spell is so freaking lol-easy for a final spell. I reached it 0/1 and bombed for safety.

I'm currently trying SA Extra. I stopped screaming at the game because the stage is total bullshit (Sanae's first spell = RAGE, especially because it's all memorization for the freaking lasers), and now I'm stuck at Koishi's 4th spellcard, even though it's her 3rd spell backwards (I still look over my sprite instead of under it).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 03, 2009, 10:38:07 PM
oh hey guess what you can actually sit at the bottom center and have all the lasers miss you how about that
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 03, 2009, 11:10:11 PM
oh hey guess what you can actually sit at the bottom center and have all the lasers miss you how about that

I know. That's why it pisses me off so much, because if you don't know that you're completely fucked. I wasted a life on this stupid spell (auto-restart) for my first 15 runs or so before realizing this.

Or maybe you're not actually talking to me. I don't really care either way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 03, 2009, 11:45:30 PM
But that's only 15 runs. I figured it out the first time I got to the stage, but hell, my cap rate is 198/288 for some strange reason.

It's piss easy, man :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 04, 2009, 12:30:18 AM
But that's only 15 runs. I figured it out the first time I got to the stage, but hell, my cap rate is 198/288 for some strange reason.

It's piss easy, man :(

The card went from "Undodgeable Bullshit" to "Icicle Fall-esque" difficulty. I know I should be happy there's something easy in that stupid stage, but still.

And not only is it laughably easy, it's also really fucking boring. I like her second and third spellcards much more than her first. I also thought at first that her second spell was much easier than her first (well, it IS quite easy).

Now I need to do something that's actually worth talking about.
 
Why does the text box keep scrolling up and down all the time? (lol random)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 04, 2009, 01:40:27 AM
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6041/whoamg999graze.th.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/whoamg999graze.jpg/)

...Oh God, this means I can actually have fun with EoSD stage 6 again.  It's, *sniff*... it's such a wonderful feeling. ;_;

So now the only mammoth spellcard I've left to capture is... ugh...QED.  That is going to be quite painful, so I'm just going to put it off some more kthx
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 04, 2009, 02:35:10 AM
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6041/whoamg999graze.th.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/whoamg999graze.jpg/)

...Oh God, this means I can actually have fun with EoSD stage 6 again.  It's, *sniff*... it's such a wonderful feeling. ;_;

So now the only mammoth spellcard I've left to capture is... ugh...QED.  That is going to be quite painful, so I'm just going to put it off some more kthx

Sorry, but the only time that's allowed to happen is after you beat the stage no deaths. Because only a madmen would aim for a perfect run of this stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 04, 2009, 02:40:35 AM
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6041/whoamg999graze.th.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/whoamg999graze.jpg/)

...Oh God, this means I can actually have fun with EoSD stage 6 again.  It's, *sniff*... it's such a wonderful feeling. ;_;

So now the only mammoth spellcard I've left to capture is... ugh...QED.  That is going to be quite painful, so I'm just going to put it off some more kthx

Sorry, but the only time that's allowed to happen is after you beat the stage no deaths. Because only a madmen would aim for a perfect run of this stage.

Phar is a madman then, but everybody knew that already.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 04, 2009, 02:55:45 AM
Not sure if this is an actual accomplishment as such, but I just beat EoSD Extra the way it was meant to be beaten - with a shitload of alcohol going through my system. Would post the fail-filled replay except gensokyo.org isn't working, for some reason. Suffice to say I finished 0/0.

EDIT: Replay uploaded. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4178)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 04, 2009, 04:36:14 AM
While trying to find out how to beat the pre-boss waves in PCB Phantasm, I cleared it for a second time, even though I fooled around a lot. I bombed Zenki and Goki twice, died to Yukari's 2nd spell, and bombed things at random. For some reason, this is the Extra Stage I have the least trouble with. I must be weird or something.

Oh yeah, it took two tries to find out how to dodge the pre-boss waves. It should work pretty consistently (it requires some timing), but I'm too lazy to test it any further. Once I dodged it while going through one of the familiars, so it can't be that hard anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 04, 2009, 06:36:34 AM
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/th_th072009-08-0323-27-35-36.jpg) (http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/th072009-08-0323-27-35-36.jpg)

Border of Life and Death capture!  All that remains are Patchy's Elemental Signs, and I'll have captured every Lunatic/Extra Spell Card in the Windows era.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Pako on August 04, 2009, 10:29:23 AM
I defeated Koishi and Gengetu Yesterday, that means I have two extra stages left!

I also captured Mokou's last spell but that isn't a big achievement I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 04, 2009, 02:01:45 PM
I have no idea what possessed me to do this, but hey.

EoSD Extra no focus clear! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4179)

QED while not being able to focus is terrifying. Also lol Maze of Love and Starbow Break

EDIT: Just did another no focus clear, this time PCB Extra (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4183). Finished 4/1, the non-cards went a lot better than anticipated, and the no focus cap of Kokkuri-San's Contract was very nice. Also lol Ultimate Buddhist, Unilateral Contact, Izuna Gongen

Aaaand that's probably my last achievement for a while since I'm away for a few weeks with no Touhou. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 04, 2009, 04:27:46 PM
Captured "Tree-Ocean of Hourai", Kaguya's Last Word. It's not too hard, but it took me 5 attempts just to figure it out, and the round bullets are often hard to see because they like to cross those lines of aiming bullets. Too much colors.

Finally cleared FinalB on Normal. I had cleared FinalA about 6 months ago. Finished 6/0. I also managed to get enough time for every last spells, though I failed Wriggle's (lol), Marisa's, and every one Kaguya has except her last one.

Is it just me, or is Kaguya's 5th last spell the easiest (on Easy/Normal)? I capture it quite often, while I almost always screw up on the others. I know her first is really simple, but I still fail it all the time. And I can't dodge her 2nd or 4th at all.   
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 04, 2009, 05:39:41 PM
Finally!

Finished IN on Normal FinalB

I'm very happy about this.

I gave up on this game last week and today I did it on my second try... :)

Now onto EoSD or SA....

Many thanks to Generalguy for going out of his way to help me :)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4185
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: CK Crash on August 04, 2009, 06:40:20 PM
Finally beat SA on Normal (thanks to bombing Orin repeatedly). The downside: I hate SA Extra now. Where are my excessive 1-ups?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on August 04, 2009, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: royalflare.net
1     1.00a     ☆983,372,440 (64.0)     0.07%     霊夢A     Extra     2009/08/03 15:21     Phar
2     1.00a     ◇983,189,340 (64.0)     0.03%     霊夢A     Extra     2009/08/04 16:03     coa
3     1.00a     △982,767,840 (64.0)     0.13%     霊夢A     Extra     2009/08/04 19:35     Jack

Oh what. These people are pretty desperate about their scores. I have a feeling my high score is not going to last for another 24 hours :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 04, 2009, 07:48:00 PM
Aaaand that's probably my last achievement for a while since I'm away for a few weeks with no Touhou. ;_;

Okay, I was wrong, my last achievement for a while is IN Extra no focus cleared (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4187).

I almost got clipdeath'd during the non-cards so many times it's ridiculous, but then that was balanced out by the utter rape from Fujiyama Volcano. Also lol Xu Fu's Dimension, Honest Man's Death, Possessed by Phoenix, Hourai Doll, and Keine in general.

No idea what brought on the whole 'must no focus clear all the extras' thing, but it's surprisingly fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 04, 2009, 08:53:01 PM
So I decide to play MS normal to find something to rage about (Most likely Yuki and Mai).
BUT OH WAIT
WHAT IS THIS
ARE MY EYES DECEIVING ME
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff149/cassarenas/HOLYSHIT.png)
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
I 1cc'd MS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 04, 2009, 09:05:01 PM
Congrats, but you should play on default lives. At least, you should until you 1cc it on default lives (I play on max lives because I don't like getting a bad ending. :V)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 05, 2009, 12:28:57 AM
Somebody, slap me in the face.
Like, really hard.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff149/cassarenas/HOLYSHITMKII.png)
As hard as you can.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 05, 2009, 12:30:56 AM
Not to burst your bubble, but if that translation thread is correct, you had 86% slowdown there. ._. The fact that it gives your score as a bunch of question marks and the bonus text mentions your slowdown help support it more.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 05, 2009, 12:35:05 AM
Wait a moment.
86% slowdown?
Wat :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Herasy on August 05, 2009, 12:42:29 AM
Accomplishment get!
IN Normal 1CC clear, 0.08% slowdown
Take that you Hourai NEET!

Next round: SA Normal 1CC  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 05, 2009, 07:46:56 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4195

A failed PCB Reimu A no-focus 1cc attempt.  Despite failing at Resurrection Butterfly for reasons that could be easily prevented (next time I try this, I'm not hesitating for a moment to bomb Ghost Knives), I'm still happy with the result, getting some awesome highlights.  Particularly, I get a few good moments against the Prismrivers, capping both of Lunasa's opening noncards, and their final card.  I also apparently learned how to do the Deadly Dance.  And to give me an epic heart-pumping finish, rather than letting me lose my last life on Sumizome, the kind goddess Suwako smiled upon me, and I somehow deathbordered a bullet by dying, then triggering a border within the deathbomb window.  That at least gave me the chance to confront the epic final card.  Even if I failed against it, I didn't go down without a damn fight.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on August 05, 2009, 08:04:56 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4195

A failed PCB Reimu A no-focus 1cc attempt.  Despite failing at Resurrection Butterfly for reasons that could be easily prevented (next time I try this, I'm not hesitating for a moment to bomb Ghost Knives), I'm still happy with the result, getting some awesome highlights.  Particularly, I get a few good moments against the Prismrivers, capping both of Lunasa's opening noncards, and their final card.  I also apparently learned how to do the Deadly Dance.  And to give me an epic heart-pumping finish, rather than letting me lose my last life on Sumizome, the kind goddess Suwako smiled upon me, and I somehow deathbordered a bullet by dying, then triggering a border within the deathbomb window.  That at least gave me the chance to confront the epic final card.  Even if I failed against it, I didn't go down without a damn fight.

Suwako Border is incredible. No focus Lunasa's second opener is incredible.

Inspired me to do a no focus run of Stage 6, of which was basically a complete disaster. However, I did capture Resurrection Butterfly if that means anything  ???
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 05, 2009, 09:21:40 AM
PCB Stage 4 Lunatic (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4196).

I'm satisfied. "Pseudo Stradivarius" capture. Lunasa's 2nd non-spell isn't that hard actually. You just have to know the method.

...though, I'm intrigued by Krim's replay now, so I guess I'll go watch that after dinner.

...I'm getting closer to "VoWG" timeout. Best so far is dying at 49 seconds left on the timer.

Still a long way to go though. There are some... interesting waves that occur more frequently as the timer goes down.

The speed that I parse the waves is a bit too long though. By the time I decide my "next" action, the amulets have already moved down too far.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 05, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
I almost captured Kogasa's first endboss card on Lunatic. With 2 power(MarisaA).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 06, 2009, 12:39:16 AM
I captured Spell 21 in IN 6 times in a row.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alice Fact on August 06, 2009, 12:42:34 AM
At least, you should until you 1cc it on default lives (I play on max lives because I don't like getting a bad ending. :V)
what
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 06, 2009, 12:54:37 AM
What's wrong with playing on max lives if you're just playing for fun? Sure default is the only legitimate way, but it's the same thing if you complete LLS/MS with 3 lives in stock. And if you're confused, I have beaten all of my lunatics default lives at least once (and all but SA at least twice).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 06, 2009, 01:21:57 AM
What's wrong with playing on max lives if you're just playing for fun? Sure default is the only legitimate way, but it's the same thing if you complete LLS/MS with 3 lives in stock. And if you're confused, I have beaten all of my lunatics default lives at least once (and all but SA at least twice).

Well i would say that starting with max lives is equally as legitimate as starting with default lives if you have the additional lives in stock when you win. If you win that is.

But no matter how you look at it, playing with max lives is better cause then you don't have to worry about your lives that much compared to if it is a run with default lives. That's actually one of the main reasons i'm not too fond of playing full runs. I don't like to use bombs and i don't like to worry about my lives. Its more fun to just let loose and have fun and give all the spells your best in practice mode.

Still i play with default lives when i actually do a full run. There is more score to be had that way and its more cool to wind up with a crapload of lives at the end if you didn't start out with freaking 7 of them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 06, 2009, 02:44:53 AM
Actually, I tend to do better when I play on default lives. I value my resources more and use them wisely. However, since LLS gives you an automatic bad ending if you continue during stage 6, I play on max lives for the sake of caution.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 06, 2009, 04:53:00 AM
So here's basically how this run went down:

*Attempts lunatic 1cc of EoSD just for the hell of it*
*Dies on stage 1*

Me:  Aw hell... y'know, screw it, I don't feel like restarting so let's just keep going.

*Perfects stage 2*
*Dies 3 times on stage 3, all with bombs in stock*

Me: ...

*Gets through stage 4 with two deaths, one with bombs in stock, ends up at stage 5 with 1/2*
*Manages to 2LC stage 5 (I got MaxRank Killing Doll down to 1/5 life before dying).  Gets to stage 6 with 1/3*

Me:  Oh God, there's no way I'm going to pull this out, I'm fucked...

*Bombs the stage once(yeah...) and Midboss Sakuya twice.  Gets to Remi and dies to the first wave of her opener.*

Me: 0/3?  ...Well, that's pretty much it...

*Caps YDL/second nonspell*
*Caps Hell Mountain/third nonspell*
*Bombs Vamp Illusion/ caps fourth nonspell*
*Doublebombs Scarlet Meister, ends up at Gensokyo with 0/0*

So how did it turn out you ask?



(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9277/eosdawesome.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/eosdawesome.jpg/)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4199

tl;dr:  FUCKING EPIC END.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 06, 2009, 07:59:37 AM
I finally captured Scarlet Gensokyo without lowering Remilia's health from Scarlet Meister. For my 270~th try, I decided to try and make the music match in a way it used to back when I sucked and couldn't center myself on Remilia. It was fun, but it involved timing out Scarlet Meister (with bombs of course). One or two miracle dodges later, and I made a loli asplode.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: arcanesign on August 06, 2009, 03:26:28 PM
This one is a bit old, but I managed to clear spell card 144 (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Imperishable_Night:_Stage_6A_Spell_Cards#Spell_Card_144) in IN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3XfhLYv6dE

That was a fun card. I probably have the replays somewhere...

Edit: here's the replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4230
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 06, 2009, 09:25:07 PM
Ancient Duper Captured.

Took around 110 tries. Around 40 with Yukari, 50 with Youmu and 20 with Marisa. I would post a replay, but I'm too lazy to upload.

So that's 8/18 of the LWs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Suikama on August 06, 2009, 11:12:14 PM
Captured all of Patchouli's spellcards in the most retarded extra run ever http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4202
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 06, 2009, 11:59:13 PM
So I do a MoF lolrun with ReimuC. My thoughts: Nah, probably I'll game over on Nitori.
The result? 1cc. The lol part? The only two captured SpellCards were Illusory Dominance and Mountain of Faith. Wat.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alice Fact on August 07, 2009, 12:09:38 AM
on that note I have not figured out a practical use for normal Reimu.C shots (other than you aren't moving really slow), any advice?

edit: Azinth, just try a little harder for 200M and post the results on the board please; you would rock
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 07, 2009, 12:14:17 AM
on that note I have not figured out a practical use for normal Reimu.C shots (other than you aren't moving really slow), any advice?
Me neither, actually, since that run was filled as fuck with bombing (Which made my MoF capture even more amazing since I was at a brutal 1.45 power and no lives left).
All I can do well with her is shotgunning, and that makes her rubbish for extra (Unless there's something else that you can do).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 07, 2009, 12:23:40 AM
So I do a MoF lolrun with ReimuC. My thoughts: Nah, probably I'll game over on Nitori.
The result? 1cc. The lol part? The only two captured SpellCards were Illusory Dominance and Mountain of Faith. Wat.
I should do a "0 Spell Card" capture 1cc sometime.

If I didn't clipdeath so much on Kogasa, I would think that I'm starting to like UFO (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4203).

"Parasol Star" UFO S2, SC2 is a great Spell Card and all (now anyway...), but it's not exactly S2 level. Feels more S4/5.

...and "Umbrella Express" UFO S2, SC4. I would say that I survived for a fair long time. Of course, the bomb abuse didn't work so well, as was noted earlier. My fault for forgetting it in the first place.

@Phar:

I think you're at the point where luck is becoming a fairly very large factor in obtaining an even higher score now  :V

EDIT 2: ...you were right.

Quote from: score.royalflare
☆983,871,190 - coa

I haven't found any practical use for unfocused ReimuC either. I would say it would be great to destroy enemies to your side, but the damage is far too low for that purpose.

EDIT:

...I guess it's time I started to "properly" work on 1cc EoSD, PCB, IN and SA Lunatics.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 07, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
PoFV Extra cleared. Now I'm finally done with th- What do you mean I have to do it again!?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 07, 2009, 05:42:04 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4206 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4206)
IN Easy Marisa solo No focus No vertical.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 07, 2009, 07:09:40 PM
edit: Azinth, just try a little harder for 200M and post the results on the board please; you would rock

Ask and ye shall recieve. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=155.msg55149#msg55149)  :V

I was actually intending to do it eventually, but you convinced me to try again.  As for the run, there was an Eternal Meek capture, but that's about all as far as dodging goes.  The rest is just a showcase of me pressing the bomb button at all the right times.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Garlyle on August 08, 2009, 02:19:02 AM
I think I'm the first person to do this - or, at least, to have proof.
Story of Eastern Wind - Extra Clear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGyUfo3ifZ0)

EX-Cirno is a lot of fun.  Too bad I lag for 70% of the fight due to recording + crappy computer!  Anyway, the game still runs at full speed when FPS is dropped, so 95% of the time it's a handicap because movement and bullet paths look 'jumpy' and its harder to follow... but a couple of Cirno's attacks get modified because they're drawn based on frame count - not on time like every other damn thing in the game.  Of course, any advantage I get is negated by her final spellcard going from 'actually fairly simple' to 'Can't figure out shit what's going on!?'.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on August 08, 2009, 02:44:46 AM
I think I'm the first person to do this - or, at least, to have proof.
Story of Eastern Wind - Extra Clear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGyUfo3ifZ0)

EX-Cirno is a lot of fun.  Too bad I lag for 70% of the fight due to recording + crappy computer!  Anyway, the game still runs at full speed when FPS is dropped, so 95% of the time it's a handicap because movement and bullet paths look 'jumpy' and its harder to follow... but a couple of Cirno's attacks get modified because they're drawn based on frame count - not on time like every other damn thing in the game.  Of course, any advantage I get is negated by her final spellcard going from 'actually fairly simple' to 'Can't figure out shit what's going on!?'.

You are REALLY good at deathbombing.  EXCirno doesn't look like the hardest extra boss, but looks very fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 08, 2009, 07:59:45 AM
Quickie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6bCSSRroMc

(still processing, so quality will be a bit blegh until about 1 hour after this post or so).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 08, 2009, 08:19:57 AM
Repeating what I commented, I still don't quite see if you've found a simple and reproducible trick to it or not.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 08, 2009, 08:37:48 AM
Repeating what I commented, I still don't quite see if you've found a simple and reproducible trick to it or not.
From the start:

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 08, 2009, 08:40:49 AM
Okay, I'll try that someday.

For now, PLEASE tell me the right way to dodge the final part of the phantasm preboss waves. D: I've tried five times tonight and have failed every time. I've done it before, but I can't replicate any strategy I once had...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 08, 2009, 08:48:44 AM
Quickie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6bCSSRroMc

(still processing, so quality will be a bit blegh until about 1 hour after this post or so).
inb4typo

(editing post w/ Phantasm pre-boss.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 08, 2009, 08:56:24 AM
WTF. I did it this time. You know what I did? The same FUCKING thing I've been doing for the last 30 minutes! Why did it work THIS time?!

Truth be told, I'm terrible at phantasm. There's so many places I could improve, but this is one spot above all I want to master.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 08, 2009, 09:04:34 AM
WTF. I did it this time. You know what I did? The same FUCKING thing I've been doing for the last 30 minutes! Why did it work THIS time?!

Truth be told, I'm terrible at phantasm. There's so many places I could improve, but this is one spot above all I want to master.
(editing post w/ Phantasm pre-boss.)
Screw it new post.

Seeing as you got it, I don't think there's a need to tell any more. But for others, I use this (end part only):


EDIT for 'nut: Each "dodge" is about 1-2 character sprites in width, except for the last two which I just focus and move across.

Timing is important  :V

Also, I suck at PCB in general, so who are you to complain  >_>

...brb Phantasm.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 08, 2009, 09:13:27 AM
Er, I don't think that plan of mine is reliable, because I was cringing and waiting for the end. Thanks for those movements, but the real question is how far do I dodge in each of those?

In other news, lol I suck at Yukari. I cleared 0/2 this run. Clearly not my night...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 08, 2009, 09:52:10 AM
Thanks for those movements, but the real question is how far do I dodge in each of those?

You dodge when you hear the sound of them shooting. I doubt this really helps though, because it's like the easiest part of those waves. The one just before that is much harder.

Here's a replay for the hell of it, with lots of screwing around :
Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4209)

Make sure you're near the edge on the wave before the lines of four wave start to get spammed, so you don't get blocked by bullets (they'll end up in the upper corners this way).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 08, 2009, 10:22:52 AM
Quote
You dodge when you hear the sound of them shooting.

...

*tries*

...

YES!!!!! Thank you two so much for this! The dodging was still closer than I would have liked, but I still made it! I also survived the WTF spam before that without dying or bombing. I think I may have found the way to minimalize the bullets with Marisa A's short range.

So thanks again. Now I am satisfied and can go to bed at the lovely hour of 3:22 AM (the only good thing about Summer is that you get to stay up well into the night with no consequences).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: DgBarca on August 08, 2009, 03:11:28 PM
I have 1CC SA easy modo for the first time...4 death 1 bomb.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Iryan on August 08, 2009, 04:16:58 PM
Holy Cr?pe!

After a little break, I tried to do the hard mode I hadn't completed yet. My first SA Hard 1cc, and with 4 lives left! After only two restarts (because of stupid death on stage 1)!
What the hell?  :o

Anyways, that means all regular danmaku games (4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11) are done for on hard. But lunatic is so much more difficult... <.<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 08, 2009, 04:37:52 PM
There is a world of difference between Hard and Lunatic. OT, i just beat PCB on Hard with three lives in stock. Of course i bombed everything in sight. Not to graceful. My first clear ever and it just came like that. Not even that Hard at all. Vsync patch really did its wonders. If i could just get it to work with EoSD...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 08, 2009, 05:49:36 PM
Fantasy Heaven cleared. I hate Reimu's Last Word, it took over 300 tries. But now I know how to do it almost by heart.

The last seconds are just a simple "circle, circle, circle, go down then right" pattern. The 7th and 8th wave ares harder IMO, because Reimu likes to move around and you end up just outside the circle the orbs form, and amulets spawn on top of you

Captured again in 17 tries with the Magic Team. Reimu and her orbs don't have any hitbox, so it works with them too.
Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4216)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Danielu Yoshikoto on August 08, 2009, 05:59:09 PM
some old spellcard caps from IN...

Spell Card 144 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4215)
Spell Card 188 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4217)
Spell Card 207 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4218)
Spell Card 217 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4219)

wow... still have done 172 and 180 but they are not that spectacular...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: arcanesign on August 09, 2009, 04:35:10 AM
Beat Spellcard No.201: Everlasting "Phoenix's Tail":

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4229

Here's the replay to Spellcard No.144: Forbidden Arcanum "Hourai Elixir" that I posted before:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4230
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 09, 2009, 06:05:43 AM
Just did a 3cc of PoDD lunatic. Considering I haven't touched the game since 1ccing lunatic nearly a month ago, I'm amazed I cleared at all. No matter~ Now that I've beaten PoDD lunatic, I have no real drive to 1cc it again. Now it's just fun to play through casually.

...Did I just call a phantasmagoria game fun? o_O

Also, I tried Baity's method for passing the MS extra preboss waves, but it didn't work. I'm certain there's an easier way than that...

Also, slowdown for this run of MS extra came in at 38%. ;_; I've had it come in at 15% before, so something must be up. I so desperately want a new computer. :<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 09, 2009, 08:57:01 AM
Also, I tried Baity's method for passing the MS extra preboss waves, but it didn't work. I'm certain there's an easier way than that...

My method isn't fail-proof (then again, no methods are; methods just make an array of bullets easier to evade). The Pre-Boss is still quite difficult, even if you have a set method of going about it.

...I'll give you the four three best choices you have for this:


@'nut (or anybody who can do this): Is there any way of surviving the first half of MS Extra with Yuka without bombing (...or dying)?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 09, 2009, 09:18:41 AM
@'nut (or anybody who can do this): Is there any way of surviving the first half of MS Extra with Yuka without bombing (...or dying)?
  • Slow the game down to 50% speed
Works like a charm.
Now that I realize, I'd do better in the card section of I had Yuka's wider spread, since I'd be able to kill both lines of cards at the same time, and save bombs (Mainly used so I won't need to dodge stuff to get to the other side).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alice Fact on August 09, 2009, 10:22:08 AM
Vsync patch really did its wonders. If i could just get it to work with EoSD...
the original Japanese .exe needs to be named 東方紅魔郷.exe because it's special

@'nut (or anybody who can do this): Is there any way of surviving the first half of MS Extra with Yuka without bombing (...or dying)?
  • Slow the game down to 50% speed
Works like a charm.
and you are keeping your dirtbag scores out of the topic
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 09, 2009, 10:27:48 AM
Vsync patch really did its wonders. If i could just get it to work with EoSD...
the original Japanese .exe needs to be named 東方紅魔郷.exe because it's special

@'nut (or anybody who can do this): Is there any way of surviving the first half of MS Extra with Yuka without bombing (...or dying)?
  • Slow the game down to 50% speed
Works like a charm.
and you are keeping your dirtbag scores out of the topic
Exactly.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 09, 2009, 02:36:52 PM
Vsync patch really did its wonders. If i could just get it to work with EoSD...
the original Japanese .exe needs to be named 東方紅魔郷.exe because it's special
Well, i have tried that but for some reason it still pops up with a error box whenever i try and it says a bunch of random letters and some @ marks that makes no sense.

EDIT:

I timed out Fujiyama Volcano. Mokou's hardest spellcard. (Imo)
For those interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-PGuHSFBTc
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 09, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
I timed out Fujiyama Volcano. Mokou's hardest spellcard. (Imo)
For those interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-PGuHSFBTc
That's actually a really neat strategy.  I didn't realize that Mokou shot the red bullet rings each time she fired her cluster bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 09, 2009, 06:48:00 PM
I timed out Fujiyama Volcano. Mokou's hardest spellcard. (Imo)
For those interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-PGuHSFBTc
That's actually a really neat strategy.  I didn't realize that Mokou shot the red bullet rings each time she fired her cluster bombs.

Well, if its something you can use, it means i've done the deed of the day.

Another deed should be posted about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLP4atxx5YE

Apollo 13 Lunatic Timeout. I don't know why the hell i decided to time out this horrible spellcard but i did it. Ignore the spellcard history. It took about 20-30 attempts.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 09, 2009, 07:01:57 PM
Made it to Stage 5 Lunatic, died early because I'm stupid and never bomb when I should.

Also note: Use up all bombs before fighting Meiling. I captured everything but Typhoon.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 09, 2009, 07:24:51 PM
I rarely get the chance to play MS extra without slowdown (only the rare opportunity at school allows it), but I'm pretty sure I've handled the stage with Yuka fine. Perhaps I bombed a bit at the end, but to be honest I've never understood how the hell you're supposed to do it in the first place. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alice Fact on August 09, 2009, 08:34:22 PM
Well, i have tried that but for some reason it still pops up with a error box whenever i try and it says a bunch of random letters and some @ marks that makes no sense.
Screenshot your tEoSD directory
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 09, 2009, 09:04:06 PM
Another deed should be posted about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLP4atxx5YE

Apollo 13 Lunatic Timeout. I don't know why the hell i decided to time out this horrible spellcard but i did it. Ignore the spellcard history. It took about 20-30 attempts.
That one I knew about.  That's just luck where the skill ends.  I don't think it's that horrible if you know how to do it though.

Now, I've yet to see someone timeout Astronomical Entombing without trivializing it.  I challenged some people to try it about two years ago and mostly received grief for it~

---

On topic.  Two tries after posting in the RAGE thread I finally kicked Shinki to the curb.  After the cheeto lasers.  After Alice launched hyperspeed random bullets in a wall into me as her opening attack.  After getting killed by air mines from behind in Stage 4.  After somehow killing Mai in spite of her being behind Yuki.  After running into Shinki's sawblades once or twice while I had no idea how far left or right I could go because I couldn't see the red bullets over the red lasers atop the red background.  I continue to be baffled by how people like this game at all.

And then MS Extra immediately became my favorite Extra stage.  Short and to the point, with an interesting choice of BGM for the stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 09, 2009, 09:08:36 PM
I continue to say that if you really have problems seeing the red bullets on the red background, that's a problem with your eyes and not the game, because I can see them fine. >_>

Also, I've beaten Astronomical Entombing without destroying familiars plenty of times. With the border team, it's hardly even worth it to unfocus and spend five seconds to destroy a single familiar.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 09, 2009, 09:12:47 PM
Fixed previous post because "capture" means something completely different from "timeout", which was what I meant to say <.<

Although going along with the mistake I'm fairly close to capturing A. Entombing Lunatic with Alice solo.  It's one of the most entertaining things I've ever failed.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 09, 2009, 09:47:39 PM
I cleared Touhoumon Lunatic (first half at least).

I can sometimes clear Possessed by Phoenix in stage Practice, despite having a lot of trouble with the second wave (the aiming stuff). I can't tap properly, I go way too far.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 09, 2009, 09:52:49 PM
Thanks again for telling me how to do the preboss waves for phantasm. Because I just very nearly pulled off a no deaths clear. :O I bombed on the stage only once, for the WTF random part. I proceeded to perfect Yukari until her fifth non-spell where I burst a border, then blew two bombs on BoHaY. >_> I have to say that for all you people trivialize it, if you don't know how to do the loophole BoLaD is REALLY hard. I don't, and so my no deaths run came to an end on the final phase of it. >_< I'm almost tempted to ask how to do the loophole, but I don't want to ruin the card. Still...I was so close...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: DgBarca on August 09, 2009, 10:13:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1PvPacSa54&fmt=22
HD !
Hum that's old but I never said it
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 10, 2009, 01:23:48 AM
Thanks again for telling me how to do the preboss waves for phantasm. Because I just very nearly pulled off a no deaths clear. :O I bombed on the stage only once, for the WTF random part. I proceeded to perfect Yukari until her fifth non-spell where I burst a border, then blew two bombs on BoHaY. >_> I have to say that for all you people trivialize it, if you don't know how to do the loophole BoLaD is REALLY hard. I don't, and so my no deaths run came to an end on the final phase of it. >_< I'm almost tempted to ask how to do the loophole, but I don't want to ruin the card. Still...I was so close...

I don't do the loophole either, and I don't want to know how to do it, it removes all the fun in the spell. For now I do rather well until the yellow balls start coming, then I tend to get stuck behind bubbles. I also can dodge a bit over 5 seconds for the last phase (with butterflies), but my best performance is 3 bombs.

I need to practice the first spell. I'm paranoid because sometimes the lines of bullets aren't perfectly straight and I get clipped, so I move around a lot.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 10, 2009, 03:38:58 AM
So I finally got up to Gengetu!

Almost got through her second phase!

OHGODOHGODOHGOD!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sentinel on August 10, 2009, 04:40:57 AM
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9964/eosdwut.jpg)

I think I broke eosd ultra

On a sidenote, I received another life at around 1,920,000,000 while on Stage 6, Scarlet Gensokyo practically never runs out of time, and Cirno's last spell is stupid.  Also, I can just barely brute force my way through to the end of Remilia's 2nd spell on stage practice.  Getting slaughtered like this is more fun than it has any right to be.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 10, 2009, 04:43:43 AM
I just cheat my way through Ultra.

Also there's a max value you can get for score. It's like -4 billion or something.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 10, 2009, 05:45:33 AM
I finally captured Gengetu Spark! :D It's actually not that hard, but at the same time it's easy to screw up.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: homing curvy laser on August 10, 2009, 05:50:14 AM
Finally 1cc'd UFO demo! Oh god Ichirin is not as hard as I have thought previously. I only bombed once against her and died at the last milisecond of her fight. Hooray!

Ah yeah I also got to notsleepy Yuka recently! The best part about her Master Spark was the fact that I didn't notice it. And then when I knew it was coming I got hit by the weird laser-like things. And then I lost on Yuka's balls.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 10, 2009, 07:07:22 AM
I just did a no deaths, 2 bomb clear of PCB stage 3. :O I bombed once during the clusterfuck of a second half of the stage, and once on Spring Kyoto Dolls. D: Spring Kyoto Dolls has been giving me problems lately...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 10, 2009, 01:31:24 PM
I have mixed feeling about my last PCB Stage 4 run (Normal). Sure, I lost lives in very stupid ways, but I also got an overall better placement of Borders that allowed me to obtain 2 lives I normally wouldn't get. Also, I got a perfect Lily White battle (And shorter than normal, also) and a no deaths Prismriver battle. I guess that accounts for an accomplishment.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 10, 2009, 02:20:20 PM
I got to Raymoo in SSG Extra. I can also no deaths the stage part, but Marisa usually wrecks me.

Oh, and I survived a orange spam w/lasers by standing completely still. All luck, but that was hilarious.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 10, 2009, 07:04:48 PM
Well, i have tried that but for some reason it still pops up with a error box whenever i try and it says a bunch of random letters and some @ marks that makes no sense.
Screenshot your tEoSD directory

Well, i've never tried to do this before so i don't know if you'll be able to see the picture or not but i've screenshot my eosd directory and uploaded it here: http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq250/Touhou-freak/?action=view&current=desktop.jpg
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 10, 2009, 07:55:18 PM
Well, i have tried that but for some reason it still pops up with a error box whenever i try and it says a bunch of random letters and some @ marks that makes no sense.
Screenshot your tEoSD directory

Well, i've never tried to do this before so i don't know if you'll be able to see the picture or not but i've screenshot my eosd directory and uploaded it here: http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq250/Touhou-freak/?action=view&current=desktop.jpg

1- Why did you rename the japanese version instead of the english one? A precaution in case stuff goes wrong?
2- You click on vpatch to start the game (you probably know this, but just in case).
3- Try removing the .exe at the end of your file name and see if it works.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 10, 2009, 08:10:02 PM
Well, i have tried that but for some reason it still pops up with a error box whenever i try and it says a bunch of random letters and some @ marks that makes no sense.
Screenshot your tEoSD directory

Well, i've never tried to do this before so i don't know if you'll be able to see the picture or not but i've screenshot my eosd directory and uploaded it here: http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq250/Touhou-freak/?action=view&current=desktop.jpg

1- Why did you rename the japanese version instead of the english one? A precaution in case stuff goes wrong?
2- You click on vpatch to start the game (you probably know this, but just in case).
3- Try removing the .exe at the end of your file name and see if it works.

I've tried that but it doens't work...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 10, 2009, 11:21:11 PM
Comparing my folder to yours shows you have more files than I do, so you're probably not missing anything.

I'll take some wild guesses about what the problem could be :

1- Is the game updated to the latest version?
2- Are you sure your antivirus isn't blocking the program? (the little shields on there)

To test the theory that the patch should work if your folder is exactly like mine, rename the japanese game to "eosd" and the english one to "東方紅魔郷" without any extension and see if it somehow makes it work.

If nothing works, try configuring windows to be in japanese unicode (or non-unicode, I forgot). The patch might not be able to find 東方紅魔郷 because the computer stores it as O&@^"%$! or something.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 11, 2009, 01:29:00 AM
lol, Normal (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4243).
Easy's has nothing on it, so don't even bother  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 11, 2009, 04:20:21 AM
Finally captured Rorschach in Danmaku.  Almost made up for the most epic Koishi fail evar.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Herasy on August 11, 2009, 06:20:04 AM
SA Normal 1cc Cleared with Reimu A!

Thank god that's over! I got a game over twice on Utsuho's last card on my previous attempts, yet I managed to clear it with 3 lives to spare.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 11, 2009, 06:56:23 AM
HD Test. That old Perfect MoF S5 Lunatic of mine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrPdyUkyYyY).

I also passed the BS walls of UFO S3 on Lunatic! With SanaeB, so it may be questionable due to lol-splash. Unfortunately, since you need to basically swing around unfocused all over the screen, you won't be able to UFO-chain as much.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 11, 2009, 05:06:16 PM
If nothing works, try configuring windows to be in japanese unicode (or non-unicode, I forgot). The patch might not be able to find 東方紅魔郷 because the computer stores it as O&@^"%$! or something.

That did it. Thanks for the help. :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 11, 2009, 05:30:43 PM
If nothing works, try configuring windows to be in japanese unicode (or non-unicode, I forgot). The patch might not be able to find 東方紅魔郷 because the computer stores it as O&@^"%$! or something.

That did it. Thanks for the help. :)

No problem. I always keep windows on japanese, because I don't know what would be the point of changing it back. Up to now, the only problem I've encountered is that sometimes, on a french document, there'll be a lot of japanese characters everywhere, because of the accents.

If anyone knows about potential issues about this, please do tell, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 12, 2009, 02:21:58 AM
1cc'd IN Hard with Raymoo Solo to unlock Blazing Star. Finished 0/0 because Reimu makes all of Kaguya's cards last long enough for me to screw them up.

No replay because I didn't want to overwrite some other stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on August 12, 2009, 07:47:52 AM
First tried Fantasy Heaven. It took me 500+ tries to cap it the first time, and in the rush of finally winning I forgot a replay. So tonight, I play IN and get the idea that I could try a few times to cap it a second time so I can save a replay, and get it on the first shot.

Gotta love the last few waves. Makes almost anyone panic and run blindly. Ironically, that's what seems to make it possible.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: JoonK on August 12, 2009, 08:03:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcVJ20WQV7I

I captured MoF Normal, I was jumping for joy. That was about five months ago.

Today, I captured both Unseasonable Butterfly Storm and Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana. As the video says, I only got into Touhou a year ago. Butterfly is easy if you don't mind dodging vertically for a bit. Flawless Nirvana... considering I haven't even 1CCed PCB Normal, it was a huge achievement. I haven't touched PCB in a long time, I might pick it up again cause I felt so good about capping Nirvana. Lucky 200 I suppose  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 12, 2009, 08:12:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ocbbxHc2Q / http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4247
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4248

Yeah. It's strange how much easier it's getting. If you were on IRC, you would've seen me going on about it.

EDIT: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4249
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 12, 2009, 08:59:47 AM
So tonight's runs of MoF stage 6 went disasterously. In the many attempts I made to get one run I was satisfied with, I:

Died during the first streaming part (before the first big fairy)

Died to Kanako's opener an instant before I captured it

Ran into Kanako somehow after her first spell card.

DIED to her second non-spell (I mean WTF?)

Died to the first wave of VoWG, then died 3 times in quick succession.

So 10 minutes later, thoroughly disgusted, I decided no matter what, this would be the run I take.

So I capture VoWG.

Oh, whatever. >_> Fourth capture of that awesome spell card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: dustyjo on August 12, 2009, 11:53:09 AM
Finally 1cc'd PCB easy. THANK YOU VSYNC PATCH



also HOLY FUCK I GOT TO RAN

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4590/sexyfox.jpg)

not that I'll ever beat her, but still
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 12, 2009, 05:03:17 PM
^ It's not very hard to get to Ran (if you bomb constantly), but you should be able to beat it with enough practice. It's mostly memorisation.

Start with the stage and try to reach Ran with as many lives as possible. Bomb Chen if she pisses you off, she can be pretty hard.

Also, try to capture those 60 spellcards you need to unlock Phantasm if you clear Extra. You'll probably end up 1cc-ing Normal in that time, and you probably need some Hard and Lunatic spellcards (in stage 1 and 2 at least). I believe PCB helps your skill the most for Touhou in general.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 13, 2009, 07:51:45 AM
I was fighting an assortment of bosses to celebrate my birthday (I'm 17 now, you know?), and Kaguya decided to give me a gift. No, it's not an impossible request, but it's a no deaths run! :D

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4254

The funny thing is that control lag SAVED me. For obvious reasons, I pressed the bomb button on Life Spring Infinity, but the lag caused by the spell card capture (TIME POINT SPAM LOL) caused it to not register. This meant that I had the bomb to spare against Hourai Jewel, which I used to secure my victory~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: dustyjo on August 13, 2009, 12:48:39 PM
Holy living fuck I got to stage 3 of PCB WITHOUT bombing on everything OR continuing

AND I captured all but 3 cards (mostly on Chen because she's a bitch)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: DgBarca on August 13, 2009, 01:23:54 PM
Ran is owned !
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4256
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 13, 2009, 03:36:39 PM
1cc of PoDD Normal with Kotohime.  Yes, the game does pity you the more you lose to Yumemi someone, at least on lower difficulties.  She died on try 4 with both bombs in stock.

That leaves SoEW and HRtP for a clean sweep for Normal, and I'm pretending HRtP doesn't exist.  I've beaten SoEWind Normal already, so I'm fairly confident as soon as I stop getting randomly screwed over by the original game I can take it out.  And since PC-98 Hard mode doesn't seem to be much more difficult than Normal, I think I can sweep the Hard modes quickly - SA's the only Hard mode in the Windows series that I can't do at will.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kilgamayan on August 13, 2009, 03:50:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9DC213FD822F5718
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 13, 2009, 06:17:05 PM
1cc of PoDD Normal with Kotohime.  Yes, the game does pity you the more you lose to Yumemi someone, at least on lower difficulties.  She died on try 4 with both bombs in stock.

I really don't think so. The thing is that your chances are the same every time, and sometimes the AI will flub up and get hit twice in five seconds, even on lunatic. I've lost to Chiyuri (who is a complete nightmare on lunatic) over 10 times in a row, then proceeded to beat Yumemi on my first try.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 13, 2009, 08:54:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FPljwvxRBA

Also,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYCP_dBa3zY

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9DC213FD822F5718
Finally done, eh?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 13, 2009, 11:08:32 PM
And a 1cc of SoEW Normal with ReimuC.  Normal All Clear and moving up.

I think that was the worst experience I've ever had with Touhou that didn't have to do with me suddenly forgetting how to dodge bullets.  I'm not at all looking forward to doing it twice more with less firepower to unlock the Extra.  In the meantime, could someone hunt down the test players listed in the Credits and somehow rob them of their dignity?

Nice Credits music though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 13, 2009, 11:15:08 PM
I prefer the ending theme myself. Possibly my favorite song in the whole game.

Also, thanks for that video Baity. Now I know that that attack is just ridiculous for SoEW and to continue bombing it. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 13, 2009, 11:21:55 PM
The ending theme seems like it was supposed to be ironic more than anything tbh.

If the music was more refined I think the stage themes would be much more liked among PC-98 fans, because they're actually pretty good given what ZUN had to work with.
To contrast, the boss themes minus Complete Darkness are all horrible.  From the vids I've watched, that especially goes for EES's theme.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 13, 2009, 11:43:27 PM
Also, thanks for that video Baity. Now I know that that attack is just ridiculous for SoEW and to continue bombing it. :P
Methodical, really. Swinging around unfocused (see: MS Extra run for example) is my specialty. Mind you, I personally think I stuck around the "top" of the screen for a bit too long.

...why did ZUN make the Final Stage (5) theme so long?

brb SoEW Lunatic practicing. I want to make this look as good as possible before recording.

There might also be a slight chance that the raw video data will go up as high as 80GB (if not higher) during the entire recording session. I swapped recording programs for supreme quality. I can definitely reduce it, but I need to somehow make (program) think that my window is 640x400; and not 640x640. It anchors itself to the program opened.

Alternatively, I could say, record Stage 1, stop recording, pause the game, make video, delete video data, etc. And that will be my solution.

...of course, there's points where it'll lag. Maybe. SoEW doesn't have that many bullets, so it shouldn't lag like the time last night where I tried to record Yumeko Lunatic  >_>

Speaking of which, I might need a more powerful PC to do that. Or disable Vsync and record at 30 FPS  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: N-Forza on August 14, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
Finally beat PCB on Easy with Marisa A without continues, and with that I've cleared Easy with no continues with everyone. Next I'll try it on Normal with their other weapon types.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: 8lue Wizard on August 14, 2009, 01:44:33 PM
Let it be known, far and wide, that I have beaten an Extra stage (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4262)!

...now for Phantasm....
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: triangles on August 14, 2009, 06:37:12 PM
I beat IN on easy with no continues!
...ok so I used 7 lives to start, but I ended with some at the end.
Good Ending #1!
Victory is mine!

Now which game to tackle next....
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: SP on August 14, 2009, 07:15:23 PM
No-Vert random capture collection, including Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, a few other last words, and some nasty attacks in lunatic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hcRxmLzkA&fmt=22
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Rikter on August 14, 2009, 07:22:47 PM
I beat IN on Normal only using one continue. I'm happy with at least getting that done.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 14, 2009, 09:23:16 PM
No-Vert random capture collection, including Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, a few other last words, and some nasty attacks in lunatic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hcRxmLzkA&fmt=22
Ah yes, during that time, we did No-Vert for a lot of things.

Like this  <3
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4274
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Scooter1000 on August 15, 2009, 12:54:12 AM
I 1CC'd EoSD Normal for the first time, and just 10 minutes away from the release of UFO and 12.3.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 15, 2009, 12:58:34 AM
Almost forgot! Yesterday, I 1cc'd the UFO demo, at last.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 15, 2009, 08:54:03 AM
"PMBS" success rate now up to about 70-80%  :V

Also, just so everyone knows, I'll be doing a blind run of UFO Hard in about 1 week.

Certain circumstances are preventing me from playing UFO at the moment.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 15, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
UFO Extra Clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4280)

Spell Card Histories:

3/5
3/5
1/5

4/4
2/4
2/4
0/3 (I have no idea how to handle this one as of now.)
1/2
1/2
0/2 (I know how to do this one, but tend to make a dumb mistake since it takes a while to end.)
1/2
0/2 (This'll take a while.  It's very long, and I'm tempted to call it the hardest timeout card to date.)
1/1
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Rikter on August 15, 2009, 11:33:29 AM
I acctualy got through two spell cards I normaly bomb or lose a life to when I was trying to beat EoSD on normal without continues. But I kept losing lives to stupid mistakes.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Garlyle on August 15, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
Beat UFO.

Was NOT expecting -that- out of the final boss...

...Now to 1cc.  I LOVE MARISA-A, BTW
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on August 15, 2009, 02:54:37 PM
UFO Extra Clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4280)

Thanks for teaching me how to do her 2nd card :)

Extra Clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4285)

Ain't pretty. Forgot how many cards I captured, but all I know is that I fall apart in the end. Although, I figured out how to do the spell card with the blue UFOs and the lasers (seems to be static, and I even mess up in killing one UFO that I don't need to, of which nearly kills me out of stupidity). Also captured the card where she follows you on the screen, and it's way easier than it looks. Way, way, way easier.

I was thinking of recording this and uploading it to YT, but I think I'll hold off for now. Maybe when I wake up tomorrow, I'll shoot for a no deaths run (or a 1 death run to that time out card. That thing will be fun.) Still a bit out of shape with this whole danmaku business though... I should probably play some Stage 3 PCB to practice  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: exe3e on August 15, 2009, 03:45:16 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4287
UFO hard first clear(took 3 tries not counting redos due to death before stage 3), not gonna play Lunatic until I get a new computer and saving extra for future fun, probably gonna go play more hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 15, 2009, 04:00:42 PM
UFO Normal 1CC
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: DgBarca on August 15, 2009, 04:07:49 PM
UFO Normal 1CC
I can't do this...I got owned by stage 3 and stage 4...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 15, 2009, 04:21:03 PM
There, took out UFO Normal with MarisA.
I think I had something like seven lives going into Stage 6, and ended 0/0.  Now a correction:  Whatshername's third spell and her next-to-last spell are garbage, at least for non-ranged shots.

The Extra stage reminds me of what ZUN said about SA Lunatic:  "This difficulty is a joke.  Feel free to play while drinking."
The stage pretty much involved prayer to get through, but I cut through the boss's first four cards the first time I got to her (considering I was at 0.6/1 when I got to her...)  I shouldn't have died to her fifth card, but I got distracted by the pure awesomeness of the idea behind it.

Also, the sub-boss is a lot harder than she looks.  Her second and third cards are insane for the most bizarre reasons.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 15, 2009, 06:14:22 PM
Yay, got rid of most of the slowdown (there's still a tiny bit of input lag but it's playable at least), and then 1cced normal right after.  Checking out Extra now...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: SP on August 15, 2009, 06:20:54 PM
Just cleared extra myself.  I had a hard time with it, but had a blast.

Kogasa can go die in fire though  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 15, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Eh, almost 1cc'd UFO.
My accomplishment is that I got surprised how well I handled Murasa's battle. I went in blind, and got a perfect battle. Until the survival card, that is.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 15, 2009, 07:25:23 PM
Tried UFO, cleared it on easy. I had almost max lives on stage 6 but lost a few of them because of stupid deaths. Also, I had no idea how the UFOs worked at first, so I lost some life/bomb stars because I destroyed them too soon, or waited too much and they went away.

I believe UFO will be my favorite on the Easy difficulty. Decent challenge on some spellcards, and nearly impossible to ragequit because awesome music.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Rikter on August 15, 2009, 08:09:32 PM
I reached Kaguya in IN Normal. But I died and I couldn't use another continue...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 15, 2009, 09:46:12 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4298

Pulled off a normal 1cc at last. You know, there's something I've come to terms with: I'm a boring player. It doesn't matter how many different shot types there are, how varied they are, I always play best with the concentrated, high power, reasonably slow moving character. With the exception of SoEW (where the danmaku makes the concentrated type suck), LLS (where using said shot type is shameful), and partially IN (Yukari's close enough though), all my best shot types are boring ol' center shot. But hey, this was my first attempt with Reimu A, so that's something.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 15, 2009, 09:57:29 PM
Quote
With the exception of SoEW (where the danmaku makes the concentrated type suck)
?  I didn't have a problem, except with lolMima.

Also, the concentrated high-power shot is mathematically the best in PCB, MoF, and SA anyway.  Consider branching out to MarisA in UFO if you want to try something different, though - her focused speed is the same as Reimu's IIRC, and the piercing lasers are actually pretty helpful.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 15, 2009, 10:00:29 PM
That's the thing: I was playing Marisa A before this (Sanae A doesn't do enough damage), I thought she was for me, but Marisa's speed kept on slamming me into bullets. My relationship with Marisa just wasn't the same ever since she decided to steal another ability and stole Sakuya's impossible focus speed. Also, is it just me, or is Sanae's hitbox magnetically attracted to bullets?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 15, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
Quote
With the exception of SoEW (where the danmaku makes the concentrated type suck)
?  I didn't have a problem, except with lolMima.
At higher difficulties, you start to get walled by not killing certain enemies (well, I found this anyway). Also, I actually found the concentrated type too slow for my tastes.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 15, 2009, 10:07:57 PM
Quote
My relationship with Marisa just wasn't the same ever since she decided to steal another ability and stole Sakuya's impossible focus speed.
That's the thing, though - every character has Sakuya's impossible focus speed.

Quote
Also, is it just me, or is Sanae's hitbox magnetically attracted to bullets?
No, Hiziri's first spell card is the Embodiment of Violet Clipdeath.
I didn't have a problem with SanAe outside her low power, but it was well worth it in the stages.

Quote
At higher difficulties, you start to get walled by not killing certain enemies (well, I found this anyway).
Surely there's enough spread there to let you get by with streaming?  I hope...  I'm already seeing the implications of enemies dropping deathshots on Lunatic - the end of Stage 3's going to be a nightmare; I run into enemies enough as is.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 15, 2009, 10:10:18 PM
Surely there's enough spread there to let you get by with streaming?  I hope...  I'm already seeing the implications of enemies dropping deathshots on Lunatic - the end of Stage 3's going to be a nightmare; I run into enemies enough as is.
Not with enemies coming in from behind, falling walls of invulnerable enemies, and the issue of power gaining (I've never made it to Max Power for Lunatic).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 15, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
I heard that everyone's focus speed is the same, and I call BS. Reimu felt much more manageble than the other two. Or is it just her smaller hitbox?

ATTENTION ZUN: WHY DO WE NEED DIFFERENT SIZED HITBOXES? Everything was fine until IN. Even PCB had the size difference be negligible, but from IN on it's a liability to everyone else for no reason.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 15, 2009, 10:18:28 PM
I heard that everyone's focus speed is the same, and I call BS. Reimu felt much more manageble than the other two. Or is it just her smaller hitbox?

ATTENTION ZUN: WHY DO WE NEED DIFFERENT SIZED HITBOXES? Everything was fine until IN. Even PCB had the size difference be negligible, but from IN on it's a liability to everyone else for no reason.
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/untitl37.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=256&u=12803292)

(Image was scaled down a bit)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 15, 2009, 10:25:41 PM
...and after trying Hiziri in Stage Practice with MarisA, I captured all of her spells except the last one and the third one (which actually seems to look harder than it is).  So I think Hiziri is definitely doable with practice - it's just her third and fourth nonspells that frustrate me more than anything.  (Now I can't wait to see these attacks on higher difficulty levels.)

One other problem with MarisA - it's hard to see the shiny animated bullets through her shiny animated options.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: exe3e on August 16, 2009, 01:23:48 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4305
perfecting UFO stage 4 hard in my boredom, BTW there should be a no UFO special condition for this game.

EDIT:either it's just me or the replays that player Derp posted on the replay archive are unmarked tool assist. The way he copies the scoring strategy from other replays is pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on August 16, 2009, 01:31:36 AM
Another Extra Clear, this time I failed two cards (I think). This run happened to capture her time out card, so I'm 1/3 on it.

Very fun shit that thing is.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDmNnfx7H4Y
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 16, 2009, 02:13:46 AM
Captured Hiziri's last spell on lolnormal.  It's pretty hard. And fun. 

I also tried timing it out to see if it has an extra phase, and indeed it does.  The bullets all turn red and get a lot denser.  Though I'm not sure if it's actually harder than normal or if it just has the last phase suddenly appear like in PCB extra.  Haven't faced it enough times to really tell.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 16, 2009, 02:26:31 AM
Quote
[12:20]  * BaitySM[SoEW] died on the last phase
*snip*
[12:21] <BaitySM[SoEW]> i almost survived one wave of the BS star walls too  :o
*snip*
[12:22] <BaitySM[SoEW]> started 0/1; got a life, got an extra bomb
[12:22] <BaitySM[SoEW]> so i used 7 bombs total
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 16, 2009, 02:30:13 AM
I beat SoEW lunatic with with -1/2 a life left. :V My first time pulling it off, Mima hit me on the BS clipdeath wave of her final phase, I was dying, and just before I exploded and the game registered my game over, she died and froze gameplay, saving me. So try doing something like that next time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 16, 2009, 02:31:35 AM
UFO Stage 5 Lunatic Clear, SanaeB, after a continue (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4307)

As I mention in the upload comments, most of the Syou fight is an instabomb right now (maybe now that I have it unlocked in Practice I can start figuring out how to read her attacks), but I think I have a method here to clear the stage portions without bombs, using the proper streaming and UFO abuse.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 16, 2009, 03:15:54 AM
Aaaaaaand one more before I finally call it a night:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4309

The second half of UFO st. 3 lunatic without deaths/bombs/UFOs.  I have no idea how the hell I managed this.  I'm gonna have to review it to see if it can be replicated.  Ignore the hilariously bad Ichirin fights please.  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 16, 2009, 03:19:40 AM
Assuming it's the same thing that I did, it's memorizable.

In other news, Gift of the Gods! I've worked out how to do Stage 3 SoEW with only 1 bomb  :V
Whether this'll work in practice; I have no idea, and I'll be checking it now.

EDIT: Snazzy, it works.

EDIT 2: Would I rely on it? ...maybe. I'd rather bomb though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 16, 2009, 03:50:41 AM
Finally successfully continue spammed through UFO Lunatic.  I'm not sure what the bigger accomplishment is, having the ability to do it, or the patience to do it.  (Probably the patience, since a lot of it was heavy heavy bomb spam during the last few boss fights.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 16, 2009, 04:12:59 AM
How is Byakuren's last spell card? I'm very curious how it looks on lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 16, 2009, 04:38:47 AM
Last spell card really isn't that hard.  Looking over both it and the Normal version, they start out at the exact same density, only the Lunatic card moves faster and becomes slightly more dense than lower difficulty versions.  As far as a capture, it's not "final spell card" material.  Every final card other than Subterranean Sun out-spells this by far (and even Subterranean Sun may be a bit easier than Legendary Flying Saucer okay, it's not THAT easy, it just feels that way after you've bomb spammed your way through the game and gone through all of the -other- bullshit cards that the game has to offer). 

Feel free to see it for yourself. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4311)

I'm grabbing some dinner, then I'm going to look over how it looks when you time it out.  Since Subterranean Sun gains its real beef when you're timing it out, I have a suspicion that this'll do the same. 

Edit: Yeah, once the timer gets down to about 30 seconds, the card kicks into overdrive, hitting a peak of speed and density, and it gets pretty hard to read all the circles that are going on.  I'd put a replay, but I'm playing embarrassingly horribly right now, so I'm done with this for the night.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on August 16, 2009, 04:46:08 AM
Got to Syou's last card on my second run of UFO. I perfected the stage portion but I only had 3 lives through the whole thing because I got massacred by CAPTAIN MURASA. Syou isn't that hard, but her laser shit will take some getting used to, especially her first nonspell.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 16, 2009, 04:58:29 AM
Got to Syou's last card on my second run of UFO. I perfected the stage portion but I only had 3 lives through the whole thing because I got massacred by CAPTAIN MURASA. Syou isn't that hard, but her laser shit will take some getting used to, especially her first nonspell.
Sup' Kanako.
Also, captured Hiziri's last two spells. In easy, mind you. I still did it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 16, 2009, 05:30:13 AM
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/untitl38.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=258&u=12803292)
Videos are of "meh" quality. I only took Stages 4 and 5 because they were the most interesting. I also learnt a few things I never did before, particularly that of Marisa's attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ghaleon on August 16, 2009, 05:46:45 AM
UFO normal 1CC yay...I didn't take my chances with the final boss and just bomb spammed the heck out of her though lol.

UFO on normal seemed easier than SA on normal imo..or maybe I'm just better, I dunno. Alot of my deaths are caused by trying to grab ufos though, that's half the challenge right there.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 16, 2009, 06:59:15 AM
EDIT:either it's just me or the replays that player Derp posted on the replay archive are unmarked tool assist. The way he copies the scoring strategy from other replays is pretty hilarious.
This (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3951) replay has hints of Tool assistance on it. Of course, I would like more opinions on this myself.

First, streaming at the start, I've never seen anybody "microstream" the same distance consistently. You'll see where quite easily.

Something looked strange on Kanako's opener, but since it was bombed, I'll let it go.

"Yamato Torus"... somewhat believable.

"Heaven's Stream". I saw some extremely fine unfocused movement. I can solo it out if you want. This is what recording software is designed to do. This is the major suspect spot. Also, if that was an attempt to take it out as fast as you can while still capturing it, he's doing it wrong.

And "VoWG"... I'm not too sure myself, but the point where "Derp" died is a rather... easy wave to follow through unfocused, if you count "consistent" skill into it.

EDIT: As a whole, the replays sum up to be inconsistent levels of play.
The one with "VoWG" no focus, no death, no bombs timeout has a fair few freak dodges, which I just cannot believe.

Also:
Quote
Near-perfect scoring run of MoF stage 6 Lunatic. Only significant mistake is a deathbomb during noncard 3 that causes some of the point items released after capturing Yamato Torus to become power items.
...It's imperfect as all hell. Apart from the "what" moment of AP3 (which I believe, during a stage practice; most people would either bomb earlier, or die), the strat for scoring is well, outdated. Clearly, he hasn't seen my scoring strat for the stage  :V
He's missing another 4 point items on top of his current score.

EDIT 2: Number 3950 and 3951 were created within the span of about 25 minutes. Guess  :V

Here's a list of replays (http://replays.gensokyou.org/index.php?u=Derp&g=--&p=&t=--&d=--&ch=0).

Going to look into the other replays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXo2Pl07y5E

EDIT 3: lol-fixes
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 16, 2009, 07:41:37 AM
Huh...suddenly UFO just rose up a notch in my eyes.

After a LOT of grinding lunatic, I FINALLY managed to reach Ichirin and FINALLY passed her. Not only that, but I captured her first spell card! I can't really be proud of it due to lol 20 FPS whenever brofists were on the screen, but I was still shocked when it happened. I'm starting to see how you get through the dreaded walls thanks to replays, but it's still a very unreasonable part of the stage. I couldn't pass stage 4, but stage 4 is a LOT easier than stage 3, and I even captured CAPTAIN MOTHERFUCKIN' MURASA's first spell card once I realized the change. Perhaps lunatic is possible after all?

As for Kogasa, I think she is...OMG...actually the difficulty of a stage 2 boss now. I don't know if anything about her was tweaked or not, but I found her a LOT easier than when I fought her in the demo. I nearly captured her infamous first spell card, and captured her second. I still have absolutely no idea how to capture her third spell card though. :(

And as for Byakuren, I captured Flying Fantastica. It really isn't that tough once you realize what's going on and what you have to do.

Also, hey, has anyone noticed? ZUN did the unthinkable: He didn't have a death fairy in this game! ;_; And I took the time to cook up a name for her and everything...

Finally, I really should try extra for a third time. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 16, 2009, 08:12:38 AM
Whoops! Forgot to set my video to public, silly me. Ok, done.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ghaleon on August 16, 2009, 08:45:53 AM
not much of an achiement.. but I got to the extra stage boss wewt.. From what I heard so far, her music is very flandre-esque.

extra stage's midboss 2nd spellcard seemed impossible at first, but it's actually quite easy once you figure out how to look at it a certain way, kinda strange how it works out.

As for UFO in general, I've noticed some new concepts in it.

1: UFO in general seems to be very very demanding on reflex-speed compared to other Touhous. Seems there are alot of spells that involve not seeing the patch of a bullet until it's less than a quarter of a second from hitting you.
2: squiggly lasers are evil. I hate em.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Helix ⑨ on August 16, 2009, 11:11:32 AM
Just tried my first lunatic run (IN) and completed it with only 1 contine  :V Now I just need to complete extra stage, only about 4 spellcards left
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: exe3e on August 16, 2009, 11:21:16 AM
I think I'll skip looking at the first two replays by Derp because they are probably tool assisted too. What convinced me most in his replay of VoWG no-focus timeout is the bomb he used in the first non spell. In the stage he was taking gigantic risks to keep his score, but bombing that non spell turns much of the point item into power item, which a professional scorer would never do. His motive in doing that is probably because that attack can easily show that the replay was tool-assisted. He gave himself too little space in the first spell card and took too much unnecessary risk in the third.
The fourth replay I knew he cheated right away because nobody dodges the first non spell like he did, also the beginning of VoWG was just BS.

anyway this can be a little off topic, I guess as long as everybody is knows it's tool assisted there's no point t further prove it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 16, 2009, 11:48:12 AM
I didn't even bother to look until you pointed it out.

This statement seems to say it all:
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As a whole, the replays sum up to be inconsistent levels of play.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 16, 2009, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: donut
He didn't have a death fairy in [UFO]!
In a sense...~

I'm watching the replay and it seems like the only really tough wave of the final card came just as Hiziri lost her last HP.  Still, I agree that the major difficulty from that card seems like pressure (mmm, 0/0 going into it).  It's nice to see that her second card is still a gimme on Lunatic though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LtC on August 16, 2009, 12:35:02 PM
Cleared the extra on Sanae A.

The boss feels pretty uninspired and boring specially compared to the last 3 stages of the main game. The sixth boss on normal feels harder than extra boss, maybe it's just me. The main game itself feels pretty good though, specially compared to the other games, at least for now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 16, 2009, 01:41:49 PM
Woo, first Normal 1cc of UFO! Used Reimu A and finished with four spare lives, and got my first captures of the eye lasers, the survival card, Hiziri's weirdass curvy lasers, the Shinki limiting lasers and her second-to-last card. Died on the final card twice at the end, but still... a decent run, I think. On to Extra!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 16, 2009, 02:03:33 PM
Finally UFO Easy 1cc

Finished 0/0 hahaha

I reached stage 5 with 8 lives, and stage 6 with only 3...

Died once to her last spell...

That game is harder than SA. Moving to Normal now...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alper on August 16, 2009, 02:08:17 PM
So here's basically how this run went down:
(...)

This is hilariously similar to my PCB Lunatic 1cc, down to the Stage 1 death.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 16, 2009, 03:55:50 PM
Two Replays:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4329
UFO Normal 1cc, Great Magic "Devil's Recitation" Normal Capture.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4331
Flying Fantastica Normal Capture (Ignore the rest of the stage)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Derp on August 16, 2009, 06:25:04 PM
My replays are not tool-assisted; they are the result of 1000+ stage runs and 750 VoWG attempts spread over about 2 months. In the first 3 replays I uploaded I wasn't playing for score; I just wanted to get to VoWG as fast as possible, so I take risks (Often dying- I don't care, it's just a practice run) to make the rest of the stage go by faster and be less tedious.
Quote from: exe3e
What convinced me most in his replay of VoWG no-focus timeout is the bomb he used in the first non spell. In the stage he was taking gigantic risks to keep his score, but bombing that non spell turns much of the point item into power item, which a professional scorer would never do.

1. I actually find Kanako's opener harder and more tiring than the entire stage before it.
2. Like I said above, I wasn't going for score.
3. I'm not a "professional scorer".
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...also the beginning of VoWG was just BS.
I micromemorized that first wave and can pull that off 90% of the time. (Not sure if 10% error rate is due to randomization or  movement throwing off the red wave's aim.)

1. Pick up the items from the previous spell card and get to the bottom center of the screen.
2. Get as close to the center as you can using the E in the enemy marker for reference and focused diagonal movement for extra precision.
3. 3 "walls" of red amulets will come at you. 2 in front that overlap as they reach the bottom of the screen and 1 more spread out behind them.
4. Don't move, and the first 2 waves should narrowly miss you.
5. Tap to the left/right to dodge the third wave.

It's important to do the first 2 steps quickly because at least the red waves are aimed.
Quote from: BaitySM
...the strat for scoring is well, outdated. Clearly, he hasn't seen my scoring strat for the stage  :V
I've seen your replay, but you use ReimuA and don't collect some point items at max value. Don't think it's possible to get all of the items at max value without bombs.
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He's missing another 4 point items on top of his current score.
You're talking about the ones that became power items after Yamato Torus, right?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 16, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
Ah.. UFO Normal 1CC. Everything went great until the final boss were i lost a crapload of lives. Too bad but whatever. My first clears of anything tend to suck.

I think UFO has proven a lot of fun. Has anyone checked out Lunatic difficulty? Is it still bullshit or has it been toned down? I hope it is. Even if it isn't, Normal mode is still much fun.

Although there are some problems here and there. First of all: The Final boss' (omg, i don't remember name of a Touhou girl. Shoot me!) i think 3rd spellcard. The one with the lasers and the four aimed stars. That spell sucks!

I don't like most of Syous non-spells. Her music is damn amazing though.
Stage 4: Nothing wrong with that. The music in the stage portion is fine but it really took me aback.

Oh yes. I tried the extra stage. I made it to Nues third spell. The one with the curving lasers. That one is horrible.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 16, 2009, 06:46:08 PM
*sees Derps post*

I'm getting a flashback to a certain someone.

Its easy just to post that you spent over 1000 attempts at the stage and over 750 for VoWG. That doesn't make it the truth.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 16, 2009, 07:20:41 PM
Hell yeah, UFO Extra cleared! Got my first cap of the survival card too, which was pretty sweet. Finished 0/0, heh... the last card ended just as I used my last bomb and so it looked as if Nue got blown up by the Amulet Chaingun, which looked pretty awesome. ;D

Not a lot else to say other than that I HATEHATEHATE her 7th (I think) spell card, it seems like a weird mix of Genetics and Princess Tenko with fog added for extra insanity. @_@

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4332
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 16, 2009, 09:23:41 PM
My replays are not tool-assisted; they are the result of 1000+ stage runs and 750 VoWG attempts spread over about 2 months.
I'm going to need a screenshot of your Spell Card record.

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...also the beginning of VoWG was just BS.
Quote from: Derp
I micromemorized that first wave and can pull that off 90% of the time. (Not sure if 10% error rate is due to randomization or  movement throwing off the red wave's aim.)
Quote from: Derp
1. Pick up the items from the previous spell card and get to the bottom center of the screen.
2. Get as close to the center as you can using the E in the enemy marker for reference and focused diagonal movement for extra precision.
3. 3 "walls" of red amulets will come at you. 2 in front that overlap as they reach the bottom of the screen and 1 more spread out behind them.
4. Don't move, and the first 2 waves should narrowly miss you.
5. Tap to the left/right to dodge the third wave.
I'm willing to believe this to some degree. But why bother doing it, really?
If I cannot reproduce this (and believe me, I can reproduce almost any result possible), then there's something off with your method.
Here we go. Took 2 tries. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4346) Now I ask you, where / when did you realize that was possible?*

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I've seen your replay, but you use ReimuA and don't collect some point items at max value. Don't think it's possible to get all of the items at max value without bombs.
That's because the said run was a No Deaths No Bombs run. Now, If I wanted to use bombs...

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You're talking about the ones that became power items after Yamato Torus, right?
No, there's 20 there I believe. The other 4 are from the stage portion.

*Yes, I know what I'm asking. Nobody else answer this.

Playing at 7am has adverse affects on your reading ability.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 17, 2009, 01:25:07 AM
I'm not sure whether this should be an accomplishment or a rage, because it could go either way really.

So I managed to 1cc UFO Normal, a heck of a lot sooner than I would have expected. Thing is, I get some stupid hellish lag in a few portions (Unzan's eye laser/fist combo, Murasa's anchor spread mostly). So by the end of it I had a 35% slowdown rate. The suck, I'll have to redo it when I get my new laptop soon. I don't think it will be too bad, the slowdown is on 2 cards that aren't really bad anyways so...

At any rate, I'm highly pleased to have been able to 1cc UFO so soon, am I getting better at this or is UFO just easy?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 17, 2009, 01:53:51 AM
You know, it's weird. I play UFO at 1/2 frame rate, Unzan and anchor slow my game down to 20 FPS whenever they're on the screen, many other attacks slow to 50 FPS, and yet my slowdown only registered as <2%. I'm guessing 1/2 frame rate breaks the counter.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 17, 2009, 01:57:59 AM
You know, it's weird. I play UFO at 1/2 frame rate, Unzan and anchor slow my game down to 20 FPS whenever they're on the screen, many other attacks slow to 50 FPS, and yet my slowdown only registered as <2%. I'm guessing 1/2 frame rate breaks the counter.
The "In-game SC clear time V/S Real SC clear time" counter is also somewhat broken, since it keeps counting when you pause the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 17, 2009, 03:05:15 AM
Kay, so after that epiphany I had last night, I've managed to perfect UFO stage 3 lunatic's stage portion about three or four times now.  Really, this stage is just a bunch of streaming and isn't all that bad at all, and I'm kind of embarassed at how long it took me to figure it all out (clearly I haven't been watching Baity's replays enough :V).  The worst part about it is Ichirin's first boss card, which admittedly is still a pile of shit.  Perfecting it actually seems like a possibility now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 17, 2009, 03:07:35 AM
Then can you let me in on the secret? I can do the walling part by staying on the left side for a while, but I end up getting walled anyway. And I've seen replays, but the triple shotting fairies from hell end up killing me. What's their big secret?

On topic, I just beat Byakuren on normal capturing everything except her third spell card and fourth non-spell (nearly got the latter though).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 17, 2009, 03:07:50 AM
Kay, so after that epiphany I had last night, I've managed to perfect UFO stage 3 lunatic's stage portion about three or four times now.  Really, this stage is just a bunch of streaming and isn't all that bad at all, and I'm kind of embarassed at how long it took me to figure it all out (clearly I haven't been watching Baity's replays enough :V).  The worst part about it is Ichirin's first boss card, which admittedly is still a pile of shit.  Perfecting it actually seems like a possibility now.
Two THREE Words
REPLAY FUCKING WHERE?

Damit Donut. I beat Byakuren on normal capturing everything except her 2 last non-cards, and Flying Fantastica.

Uh, your run is better because you capped FF.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 17, 2009, 03:16:47 AM
Two THREE Words
REPLAY FUCKING WHERE?

Here you go:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4353

I'll clarify some parts just for the hell of it

-For the white-blue bullet clouds, the spawning points for the yin-yangs are static.  To make it easier, stand still while the enemies blow up so that the aimed white orbs bunch up.  That way you only have to worry about the blue bullets.

-I fucking hate Ichirin's midboss nonspell.  Anyone have any tips for it?  >_>

-The black-arrow fairies have semi-static spawnpoints, so as long as you're not at 1.00 power(which, yknow, is always a possibility) they're easy to kill fast enough.

-The last streaming bit... I'd have trouble explaining it, so just watch the replay.  The most important things are to a) know when the black-arrow fairies show up so you can get to the bottom right and kill them fast.  And, b) after the red wave preceding the second arrow-fairy, get to the bottom right and stream the final preboss wave slowly to the left.

Yep.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on August 17, 2009, 05:44:06 AM
-I fucking hate Ichirin's midboss nonspell.  Anyone have any tips for it?  >_>
The general grid pattern is static, just run the stage many times until you can parse the pattern just off of Ichirin's position on the screen and act accordingly.

Other than that, I can't see any other way of attacking it, it's quite hard for a stage 3 noncard.

I still have a better cap rate on it than most of Ichirin's boss spellcards, jesus christ those things are horrible. Random varying slowdown between 40fps and 60fps does *not* help at all either, it merely increases the amount of times I plowed into a bullet due to Sudden FPSJump.

On a side note, I think I have most of stage 5 Lunatic down by now, apart from the fact that Syou's first and second noncards can basically go to hell (story in Touhou Rage thread) and I'm starting to think this can basically be perfected given a little time.

Also I capped Kogasa's first spellcard a couple of times and almost managed to time it out once without dying (timing that thing out is silly, you get entirely too many of those oddly-moving boulders that will sometimes uppercut you from even THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 17, 2009, 07:23:35 AM
GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR.

HARD MODE OPEN FOR SPELL PRACTICE, god damn it. I have to say, this continue system is brilliant in a way: While it's a lot harder to get through, it really does a good job of helping you get better at the stage; after all, it's basically forcing you to be good enough to get through the stage on 2 lives.

Syou seems to be copying Orin in that she's much harder than Byakuren. Byakuren gets a huge jump in difficulty from normal, but she still has too many throwaway attacks to be harder than Syou. I was in dismay when I realized that bombs do a decreased amount of damage to Byakuren's fifth spell card BTW. D: Nonetheless, woot woot!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on August 17, 2009, 08:24:06 AM
... Finally.

After 2 days worth of torture, I managed to clear UFO on Easy with Marisa A. Still got a bad ending for a crapload of continues (all of which happened in Stage 6); I didn't even get to see the staff roll, thus missed the opportunity to hear 'Returning Home From the Sky ~ Sky Dream.'

Well... at least all stages are now open in Practice Mode; looks like I need to practice a lot more...

*Sigh* Will I ever be able to 1cc any Touhou game in any difficulty?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 17, 2009, 11:47:24 AM
UFO Normal 1cc achieved.

But oh my lord it was bad. I had 7 lives going into the Stage 6 boss and lost 3 of them before her second card, all with bombs in stock. Her second-last spellcard got me down to no lives in stock, and I was doing her last card (Flying Fantastica) blind. I managed to capture it blind (probably because of all the VoWG grinding) and I was shaking by the end of it.

The "Shinki attack" was *AWESOME* though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Derp on August 17, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
Here, a screenshot of my spellcard history. I have a one death, no bombs, no focus timeout of VoWG (First of like 25-30, most of them not saved or overwritten.) from 7/06 if anybody would like to dissect that.
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I micromemorized that first wave and can pull that off 90% of the time. (Not sure if 10% error rate is due to randomization or  movement throwing off the red wave's aim.)
Quote from: BaitySM
I'm willing to believe this to some degree. But why bother doing it, really?
Because I can do it consistently, and it shaves off a second or two when trying to cap it. I wouldn't do it during a 1cc attempt, but there's not much to lose during a practice run.
Quote from: BaitySM
Now I ask you, where / when did you realize that was possible?*
I took my hands off my keyboard while VoWG was starting up to stretch them, and when I put them back without looking I put them on the wrong keys(Easily done because I use the pl;' keys for movement).
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No, there's 20 there I believe. The other 4 are from the stage portion.
You're going to have to point them out for me then, I checked and I can't find them.

Noticed someone flagged my replays as unmarked tool assisted. It would be appreciated if someone who knows the person in charge of the replay archive could forward my posts(most importantly, the screenshot) so he/she can make proper judgment.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 17, 2009, 12:05:29 PM
What's up with the massive difference in attempts between Mad Dance and Divining Crop?  ???

Mad Dance isn't a hard spellcard *at all*, so you shouldn't be dying/restarting to it anywhere near that much... (not an accusation of shenanigans, just curious as to why it's that big).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 17, 2009, 12:07:50 PM
...just for consistency; also for the same shot type, upload the screenshot(s) for Stage 6 Easy / Normal / Hard because "Play Count" (and "Play Time") counts all the difficulties together.

EDIT: Don't attach them, but hotlink them to save scrolling space too. If possible  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Derp on August 17, 2009, 12:18:12 PM
What's up with the massive difference in attempts between Mad Dance and Divining Crop?  ???

Mad Dance isn't a hard spellcard *at all*, so you shouldn't be dying/restarting to it anywhere near that much... (not an accusation of shenanigans, just curious as to why it's that big).
Probably because I usually restart if I fail Kanako's opener. 

@BaitySM:
I'll do that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Derp on August 17, 2009, 12:38:09 PM
Haven't played easy/normal/hard in a long time. Gibberish means I haven't done the card since I last patched.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 17, 2009, 01:59:32 PM
Touched Normal between English Patching and the Present Time once I see. Not sure if that's just a Stage Practice or not though.

...I'm still wondering how you can fail Kanako's opener so many times. It should be basic compared to quickly parsing "VoWG" waves and going through unfocused. It is also strange that you would restart over such an issue, whereas most people (such as myself) would just keep going and clear off the rest of the stage to take a shot at "VoWG"... or something else.

Also, during a discussion, it seems appropriate to suggest that you should give a few (practice) runs of other stages. Stage 6 MoF is ~50-70% memorization, along with a few other reasons I can't seem to put into words. Also, freak dodging seems to be very possible for Stage 6.

Quickly addressing this:
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You're going to have to point them out for me then, I checked and I can't find them.
It's not that obvious to find out. Which is why I love keeping it a "secret". Besides, I don't think that you should bother with it since you don't seem to do this on the "professional" level.

And the last thing that probably is making "everyone" disturbed is well... you (and your replays) appeared out of nowhere really.

Quoted for reference of a said statement:
Quote from: Derp
First of like 25-30, most of them not saved or overwritten.

669 attempts; 5 were captures but you certainly cannot assume that all 5 captures were at 100%...

Inventive! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4359) You might wall yourself with said method though. It's fairly unrefined (in terms of calculations) in my opinion.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: DgBarca on August 17, 2009, 02:20:56 PM
"Perfect" UFO gestion in Stage 1 (2.89 after nazrin) (http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3715/th040.png)
(Red/Multicolor/Red/Red/Green)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Garlyle on August 17, 2009, 04:44:35 PM
Man, UFO just feeds you lives.

Normal 1cc (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4362)

I max lives at some point on stage 3, 4, 5, -and- 6.  Not that 3-5 is unusual for me. What IS unusual was getting past Shou with 7 lives remaining and at 4.0 power - which makes stage 6 go from "Argh annoying what there wasn't a bullet there goddamn" to "lolezmodo" with MarisaA's piercing lasers.

Also, can someone point out a replay that shows how to do Syou's spinny green laser?  I just bomb it through.



Did you know?  You can actually go up to 8.75 lives, btw - excess fragments are stored beyond the 8 max...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: DgBarca on August 17, 2009, 04:50:26 PM
And you have 9 lives in pratice mode...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on August 17, 2009, 04:58:44 PM
Garlyle, apparently there's not a life cap.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Garlyle on August 17, 2009, 05:45:01 PM
Really?

...Actually that'd make sense o.o;

Still, anyone got a vid for UFO Stage 5 Greenlazer capture?  I'm sure there's some sorta trick...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 17, 2009, 05:58:05 PM
As far as I'm aware, the preferred methods of dealing with that card are:
1) Cap it with ReimuB
2) Bomb it with extreme prejudice
3) Time it out
4) Die, and then bomb it with extreme prejudice

----

However, and I just thought of this, theoretically you can place both of the lasers near each other around the bottom center, and just rotate with them under the boss.  That's how I -think- you're supposed to beat it, as you're only going to time it out if you circle around the boss.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ghaleon on August 17, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
UFO extra stage clear wewt.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4363

But man was that an ugly run lol.

I'd have to say this is by far far far the most difficult extra stage in Touhou, nothing comes close... Fortunately, the boss wasn't that hard.. Ok so she killed me alot, but I'm a noob at this game still!

Seriously though, my replay features some SERIOUS UFO wastage near the end, I had like 9 of them flying on the screen, I managed to collect like all of themw ithout actually spawning a single ufo cuz I kept grabbing 2 of one color than a different 3rd by accident over and over. AGHAGHAG

I also didn't bomb when I should have, and bombed after every bullet on screen already passed me. I don't know how I managed to clear it when I was playing like such a dumbass but couldn't for the hours I spent practicing before *boggle*.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 17, 2009, 08:24:23 PM
Extra in UFO is pretty messy. UFO's all over the place and even more bullets. Thats potentially a lot of combinations and strategies. Its probably the kind of thing it will take a lot of time for me to actually get done with even though i probably have more than skills enough to do it.

OT: I made an almost perfect Remilia battle today. I got screwed over by her third spell. Oh and it was done on Hard difficulty. You know, the one where Scarlet Meister is enjoyable.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: arcanesign on August 17, 2009, 08:36:18 PM
Finally beat Spellcard No.221 "Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana"

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4364

Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ujph27aRk

Why is this so much easier with Youmu? Irony... 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 17, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
Really?

...Actually that'd make sense o.o;

Still, anyone got a vid for UFO Stage 5 Greenlazer capture?  I'm sure there's some sorta trick...

Here ya go. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4368) I got a capture of the green laser card just now with Reimu A. Far as I can see, there's not really a trick to it so much as that you just need to go around the top really fast and stay under her for as long as possible - the lasers usually position themselves somewhere pretty near the bottom when you do this, which makes it easier. Hope the replay helps. :)


EDIT: Just pulled off a pretty sweet run of UFO Stage 6 on Normal. The idea was to get a Flying Fantastica capture; what ended up happening was, aside from a death at Nue and a death on Hiziri's fourth non-card, a perfect run, plus a successful timeout of Demon's Rehearsal since I was curious about the timeout extra phase (which was pretty mental @_@).

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4369

Aaaand that makes every UFO card on Easy and Normal captured. Woo!

On to Hard mode...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 18, 2009, 12:00:25 AM
I too joined in the "time out Devil's Recitation" craze. That be some whacked up shit yo. Amazingly I actually got pretty close to timing it out without dying.

Also on hard, I captured Byakuren's fourth non-spell card. It's not so much HARD as it is LONG, and the risks you take to make it less long are the real danger. In future runs I'll likely just bomb it for time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 18, 2009, 01:05:35 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4374

Now to actually try to string it all together for a perfect. I must say, I'm having fun doing Satori-Alice.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 18, 2009, 02:23:54 AM
UFO Normal 1cc!  My Windows Normal is restored to all.  Now if I'd ever get around to 1ccing the first three...which I won't...because PoDD hates me, SoEW...I just haven't played yet, and tHRtP hates me even more than PoDD.  Also, replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4377).

Of course, my reaction to trying Extra was UFO EXTRA WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

I need to learn the stage from scratch.  Also, Kogasa's second card fills me with unspeakable RAGE.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 18, 2009, 02:27:01 AM
Uh, wow.

I really didn't think that I've improved so much. I randomly decided to try out EoSD Hard and it was actually almost easy. I managed to beat Remilia only using 1 continue. I think a 1cc is easily in my grasp for EoSD Hard now.

When did this happen? I don't remember getting this good...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 18, 2009, 02:36:24 AM
Finished UFO easy 8 times, with 3 diff characters.
First time I have ever finished a touhou game without a homming character...

Reimu A, Reimu B and Sanae A
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 18, 2009, 06:30:55 AM
Finished UFO easy 8 times, with 3 diff characters.
First time I have ever finished a touhou game without a homming character...

Reimu A, Reimu B and Sanae A

Why 8 times? I doubt I'm going to 1cc easy more than once for every character. I'll be playing Normal instead. Do you count using a continue?

I captured Ichirin's last spell (on easy...) even though that attack kills my FPS, a trait shared with Murasa's multiple anchors spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 18, 2009, 08:18:24 AM
1cc'd UFO normal again, this time with Sanae B. I'm surprised, because I royally screwed up on stage 3, including having Ichirin body slam me. Somehow I completely owned the UFO system this time and got like 3 extra lives in stage 4, and I ended up beating Byakuren without dying to boot. And as for Syou's lasers...it's as I suspected. Spend over an hour trying to beat the hard mode of the attack (where it adds a second yellow laser to the opening), and normal becomes all but trivial.

Also, I figured out the correct way to use a bomb on Byakuren's fifth spell card: Instead of trying to damage Byakuren during the attack, instead use the bomb to clear away bullets to trivialize a wave. You do more damage when you're not bombing anyhow.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 18, 2009, 12:42:40 PM
Finished UFO easy 8 times, with 3 diff characters.
First time I have ever finished a touhou game without a homming character...

Reimu A, Reimu B and Sanae A

Why 8 times? I doubt I'm going to 1cc easy more than once for every character. I'll be playing Normal instead. Do you count using a continue?

I captured Ichirin's last spell (on easy...) even though that attack kills my FPS, a trait shared with Murasa's multiple anchors spellcard.

I play on easy when I'm too pissed off with Normal.

I've gotten to the 6th stage only twice. and only once to the last boss.

So I just start an easy game, and after my first clear, it became really easy to finish it.

and no, I mean only 1cc =)

It's still cool to capture all the spell cards on easy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Herasy on August 18, 2009, 01:19:27 PM
Yes! UFO 1cc Normal Clear! I suppose I should have expected Hiziri to pull out an extra card before the final since she skips a card in easy, but the card she used was actually fairly simple so I captured it.
Unfortunately I was a pile of goo by the end of the last card, I died twice to it and used all my bombs. I was literally begging for mercy at no lives and no bombs but I managed to hold out anyway.  :V

I may have gotten that completed faster than SA Normal, but UFO had to be the most stressful clear I have ever done.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 18, 2009, 01:40:12 PM
Well, I just got my first clear of UFO Hard, albeit a clear involving about 8 continues on stage 5. I can see Shou being a pretty big barrier to a Hard 1cc. <_< I managed to get to Stage 5 with no continues though, so that's something, I guess. Got raped by Hiziri's fourth non-card as usual, and got first attempt captures of Shinki lasers and the zig-zag thingybob, which was nice. And of course Legendary Flying Saucer is terrifying. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LtC on August 18, 2009, 03:39:52 PM
Managed to 1cc th12 normal without getting any extra lives from red ufos. Also managed to no-bomb, no-miss the sixth boss all the way to last attack on normal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZCjrZ6ewPs) when practicing before. Not sure if it's just me but now it feels like probably the easiest st6 boss now for some reason.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on August 18, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
Not sure if it's just me but now it feels like probably the easiest st6 boss now for some reason.

Try her on Lunatic and say that again, I dare you :V

Anyway, I cleared UFO Extra without deaths, bombs or (ab)using any UFOs.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4387 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4387)

Probably the easiest stage part to date, as far as Extra goes. I'd rank Nue herself above Suwako and slightly below Koishi for difficulty. ...Well, with MarisaA and probably ReimuA. I'd imagine characters without the firepower to destroy UFOs would have a much harder time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 18, 2009, 05:38:36 PM
Not sure if it's just me but now it feels like probably the easiest st6 boss now for some reason.

Try her on Lunatic and say that again, I dare you :V

Out of curiosity, for all the people who've fought her, exactly how does her lunatic version rank as far as final bosses go?  I haven't actually reached her on lunatic yet, but based on replays she actually looks pretty hard.  Kind of like Kaguya, it looks like she lacks any kind of rape-tastic 'hardest in the series' attack, but she doesn't seem to really have any trivial attacks either (except maybe her opener/second card).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 18, 2009, 05:54:10 PM
Not sure if it's just me but now it feels like probably the easiest st6 boss now for some reason.

Try her on Lunatic and say that again, I dare you :V

Anyway, I cleared UFO Extra without deaths, bombs or (ab)using any UFOs.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4387 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4387)

Probably the easiest stage part to date, as far as Extra goes. I'd rank Nue herself above Suwako and slightly below Koishi for difficulty. ...Well, with MarisaA and probably ReimuA. I'd imagine characters without the firepower to destroy UFOs would have a much harder time.

Out of curiosity, why didn't you catch any UFOs?

Excellent replay btw =)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: SP on August 18, 2009, 06:52:13 PM
Out of curiosity, for all the people who've fought her, exactly how does her lunatic version rank as far as final bosses go?  I haven't actually reached her on lunatic yet, but based on replays she actually looks pretty hard.  Kind of like Kaguya, it looks like she lacks any kind of rape-tastic 'hardest in the series' attack, but she doesn't seem to really have any trivial attacks either (except maybe her opener/second card).

Personally, I've found her to be one of the hardest.  Her last attack thankfully isn't all that bad compared to others (even though I still kind of suck on it) but everything else besides the opener is pretty tricky.  Second non-card, anyone?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on August 18, 2009, 06:53:29 PM
Not sure if it's just me but now it feels like probably the easiest st6 boss now for some reason.

Try her on Lunatic and say that again, I dare you :V

Out of curiosity, for all the people who've fought her, exactly how does her lunatic version rank as far as final bosses go?  I haven't actually reached her on lunatic yet, but based on replays she actually looks pretty hard.  Kind of like Kaguya, it looks like she lacks any kind of rape-tastic 'hardest in the series' attack, but she doesn't seem to really have any trivial attacks either (except maybe her opener/second card).

I dunno, I'm judging from replays and comments on this board as well, as I've yet to get past stage 5. Her opener seems doable, but especially her first card seems like an impenetrable wall of bullets to me.

Quote from: Imagus
Out of curiosity, why didn't you catch any UFOs?

No reason, really. Just the added challenge.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on August 18, 2009, 06:57:19 PM
Capped Resurrection butterfly -50% Reflowering.

Is this much of an accomplishment? I heard the Lunatic version is one of the hardest cards in the series, but I capped the one right below it with relative ease (My first Hard clear of PCB, too. 1 continue used.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 18, 2009, 07:06:40 PM
Capped Resurrection butterfly -50% Reflowering.

Is this much of an accomplishment? I heard the Lunatic version is one of the hardest cards in the series, but I capped the one right below it with relative ease (My first Hard clear of PCB, too. 1 continue used.)

Let's just put it this way.

I think 50% is a piece of cake but 80% difficult. Not IN Yuyuko Last Word difficult but still much more difficult than 50%.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on August 18, 2009, 07:23:06 PM
Oh, fun! I'm fairly certain I can get through Lunatic with continues now. I gotta go try this.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on August 18, 2009, 07:24:47 PM
1cc'd UFO normal yay
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Iryan on August 18, 2009, 07:43:02 PM
Capped Resurrection butterfly -50% Reflowering.

Is this much of an accomplishment? I heard the Lunatic version is one of the hardest cards in the series, but I capped the one right below it with relative ease (My first Hard clear of PCB, too. 1 continue used.)

Let's just put it this way.

I think 50% is a piece of cake but 80% difficult. Not IN Yuyuko Last Word difficult but still much more difficult than 50%.
Well, up to hard you can just go through the red butterfly waves before they unfold, which makes the card comparably easy.
This method ceases to work on lunatic. <.<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 18, 2009, 08:57:14 PM
Dunno if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7969892

Someone's already 1cc'd UFO lunatic. Perhaps it'd be good to study this video?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 18, 2009, 09:17:40 PM
Dunno if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7969892

Someone's already 1cc'd UFO lunatic. Perhaps it'd be good to study this video?

Replay here: http://score.royalflare.net/th12/replay12/th12_ud0061.rpy
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 18, 2009, 09:52:16 PM
Dunno if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7969892

Someone's already 1cc'd UFO lunatic. Perhaps it'd be good to study this video?

...HOLY SHIT. THAT IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS. @_@ AND HE FINISHED WITH SEVEN LIVES LEFT OVER AND CAPTURED THE SURVIVAL CARD AND SHINKI AND ZIG-ZAGS AND LEGENDARY FLYING SAUCER AND IT TOOK HIM LIKE TWO DAYS AND SERIOUSLY THAT'S INSANE HOW DO YOU DODGE ALL THAT I MEAN WHAT THE HELL? WHAT THE HELL?!



/brainmelt

...Jesus Christ. I actually needed to yell 'that's insane' a few times while watching that.

Well, that makes Hard look like a cakewalk, not that that's much of a consolation. I mean... that looks like a whole extra difficulty level above, say, EoSD or PCB Lunatic.

EDIT: Oh and I just got my third Normal 1cc which was with Reimu B (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4393) with only three deaths but I completely forgot about it since it stopped seeming even vaguely impressive after that video. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on August 19, 2009, 12:13:05 AM
Dunno if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7969892

Someone's already 1cc'd UFO lunatic. Perhaps it'd be good to study this video?
Very obvious TAS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Heartbeam on August 19, 2009, 12:27:06 AM
Here's a Lunatic 1CC that isn't as ridiculous as all the other runs I've seen thrown around.

http://doujinstg.cn/bbs/read.php?tid=1578 (http://doujinstg.cn/bbs/read.php?tid=1578)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 19, 2009, 12:31:31 AM
Dunno if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7969892

Someone's already 1cc'd UFO lunatic. Perhaps it'd be good to study this video?
Very obvious TAS.
...Come to think of it, yeah, that would explain quite a lot. <_< Damn, now I feel like an idiot.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 19, 2009, 12:36:34 AM
Here's a Lunatic 1CC that isn't as ridiculous as all the other runs I've seen thrown around.

http://doujinstg.cn/bbs/read.php?tid=1578 (http://doujinstg.cn/bbs/read.php?tid=1578)

can't download file without membership =(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 19, 2009, 01:58:47 AM
Dunno if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7969892

Someone's already 1cc'd UFO lunatic. Perhaps it'd be good to study this video?
Very obvious TAS.

You really think so? I just assumed those ridiculous dodges during Syou were a Japanese scorerunner being ridiculous.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Heartbeam on August 19, 2009, 02:19:26 AM
can't download file without membership =(

Replay uploaded. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4396)

If you want to register then from that page click on the link to the far right, below the banner.  You'll know it's the right one by looking at the address.  Type the information in order for the red asterisks as follows:

-Username
-Password
-Confirms Password
-Self-explanatory
-Answer the question below, answer is directly to the right after the colon.

Push the blue button!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 19, 2009, 02:59:00 AM
SWR Normal 1cc with Remilia. That's an accomplishment for me, because I'm very bad at fighting games and I rarely ever use Remilia.

I didn't lose a life for the first 7 stages, then lost 2 against Yukari's complete bullshit spellcards (mostly the "Nest of Fireflies" one).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sen on August 19, 2009, 03:56:21 AM
Uh...I 1cc'd UFO with SanaeA on Normal a few hours after torrenting it? :V

Byakuren is my favorite boss in the series and her theme is amazing. I'm trying to do it with MarisaA but STAGE 4 OH GOD WHY ARE THERE SO MANY THINGS IN MY WAY

I had no idea how much I relied on SanaeA's sideshots. ):
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 19, 2009, 10:07:08 AM
UFO Extra Clear

I found it completely impossible to capture the blue UFO spell with SanaeA so i decided to unlock the stage for MarisaA and kick its ass. And it worked. Capped it first time.

I was completely drained for resources afterwards though. That's what i get for dying twice to her timeout spell. I simply have no clue about how to capture that consistently. I also died once to the spell before that and once to the final spell. Finally an extra stage that didn't take me forever to beat. Now, all there is missing for me is to beat Koishi. But i don't really care about that stage. Its not very fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: arcanesign on August 19, 2009, 03:09:58 PM
Dunno if you guys have seen this, but:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7969892

Someone's already 1cc'd UFO lunatic. Perhaps it'd be good to study this video?
Very obvious TAS.

You really think so? I just assumed those ridiculous dodges during Syou were a Japanese scorerunner being ridiculous.

I was suspicious about this as well, but decided not to say anything.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 19, 2009, 05:10:43 PM
Hermit of an Endless Night timeout. Its imo the hardest spellcard the Stage 1 bosses have to offer. Not that its THAT difficult but i thought the replay looked cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l8PjCW4vWk
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 19, 2009, 09:04:40 PM
UFO Normal 1cc'd with all shot types. :V

A Hard 1cc still seems a long way off though, due to Shou and Hiziri's various kinds of laser-rape...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 19, 2009, 09:44:56 PM
HOLY FUCK AMAZING.

I just had one of those epiphanies I sometimes get where I suddenly realize how I can do something easily and how could I have been so stupid as to miss it? Through the arcane technique of "trying something different", I have finally figured out the post-midboss Ichirin walling section, and have perfected it twice (this is the lunatic version BTW).

An epiphany in progress is that while you cannot stream the triple shot spam fairies, you can stall it out by pseudo-streaming them until an opportunity to circle around the top arrives. This is in progress because I can't seem to get past the part where the enemies will occasionally shoot you down from the top anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 19, 2009, 10:02:48 PM
An epiphany in progress is that while you cannot stream the triple shot spam fairies, you can stall it out by pseudo-streaming them until an opportunity to circle around the top arrives. This is in progress because I can't seem to get past the part where the enemies will occasionally shoot you down from the top anyway.
Destroy them before they get to the top. Alternatively, you need to stall for longer.

Protip: They're very similar to the post-midboss spam found in SA Extra. If you time it right, you should be able to circle around the screen in a very similar manner, regardless of shot type.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 19, 2009, 10:10:27 PM
Funny. I've pulled off that all of three times, because I've only even attempted SA extra with Reimu A. :V So tough luck for me there, huh?

A problem though is that thanks to Unzan's BROFIST spam midboss card choking up my computer, it takes about 45 seconds to get past that midboss card, so I don't have the patience to do extensive testing and refining.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 19, 2009, 10:38:50 PM
An epiphany in progress is that while you cannot stream the triple shot spam fairies, you can stall it out by pseudo-streaming them until an opportunity to circle around the top arrives. This is in progress because I can't seem to get past the part where the enemies will occasionally shoot you down from the top anyway.

To avoid getting walled while circling, you need to be at the top of the screen before the fairies from the left spawn.  If you do that, you can stream them downwards while preparing for the next wave of fairies from the right.  If they start shooting at you before you change directions however, you'll get walled.

So basically, you stream the first wave from the right by starting at the bottom and streaming up.  Then get to the top before the left wave appears and then stream it downward in a circular motion.  Repeat.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 19, 2009, 11:25:11 PM
Just did a no focus Normal 1cc of EoSD. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4417)

Finished 0/3, but it was actually quite a good run overall, 14 spell cards captured. The lives left were so low because I completely fail at trying to dodge unfocused and remembering when to bomb at the same time (I only used 6 bombs during the entire run <_<).

Man, EoSD Normal used to give me so much trouble, and now it seems almost ridiculously easy for the most part. I guess Lunatic messed with my head. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: exe3e on August 20, 2009, 01:18:39 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4422
UFO hard cleared with no death
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 01:26:55 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4422
UFO hard cleared with no death

It's a good thing we've already been over the "oh you cheater oh crap you're the real deal" issue, or else I'd be calling bullshit.

On that note, here's a completely legitimate perfect of lunatic Ichirin:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4423

>_> I really want a new computer.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 20, 2009, 01:41:12 AM
I'm still ending up timing out Ichirin's third Spell Card for some reason. I just can't stay centered for long enough. Might consider stalling it out anyway, since it's better survival-wise.

Recently, I managed to round up a fairly decent amount of UFOs, for this:
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/untitl33.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=262&u=12803292)

Still would like to stop bombing for UFOs though. Maybe I should consider summoning them earlier a bit.

I would have max bombs if I didn't need to bomb for extra UFOs (which gives me a net of 1 star fragment each UFO summoning when bombing :V)

Still Trial. Maybe this evening, I'll have the full.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: exe3e on August 20, 2009, 01:46:24 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4422
UFO hard cleared with no death

It's a good thing we've already been over the "oh you cheater oh crap you're the real deal" issue, or else I'd be calling bullshit.

On that note, here's a completely legitimate perfect of lunatic Ichirin:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4423

>_> I really want a new computer.
Good job, Ichirin's card's are pretty BS in my opinion and I choose to bomb almost all of her cards when I planned my strategy because of their pure randomness.
I'm having the same frame drop problem. I'll probably get a new computer in one or two months then I'll start working on lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 01:54:34 AM
The thing is, even without slowdown Ichirin isn't anywhere near the WTF hax beast I once thought she was. The stage is the REAL terror (turns out I don't have the walls down as well as I thought. :(). Her first spell card is hateful due to the bullets being obscured by the brofists, but it's a random dodge card at heart. The second is unreasonable due to it being "follow this pattern or die", along with some dense random dodging and little time to react, but as I showed it's not impossible. And the third...her third is actually very easy for lunatic, and I have no doubts I would have captured it here with or without slowdown.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: exe3e on August 20, 2009, 02:04:15 AM
well I guess Ichirin's 3rd card might not be as BS as her other cards, I just don't want to get screwed by random lazers. I had the first three stages planned in a way that I'll almost never screw up stage 2 and 3. That's why it only took me a few tries to clear hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 02:26:11 AM
The trick to the third spell card: Don't move. I can't say the lasers are aimed away from you, but this spell card's trick is to trick you into trying to read the lasers, when in reality all you have to do is dodge them as they come and you'll find yourself dying a lot less. As for Unzan's incoming fists, keep in mind that these bullets have a safespot at the bottom where his knuckles don't meet. For the first two fist waves, you should misdirect them so you can move down and use this safespot, then move up on the third wave where Unzan's hitbox will soon run out of life.

Also, I think I may have figured out how to make Dipper Creeping Close (Murasa's survival card) as simple as possible on hard mode. That's something I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 20, 2009, 02:28:16 AM
I just capped QED twice in a row. :D Those were my second and third caps of it ever, so I guess I'm improving. A no death or even perfect run might not be far off if I can start capturing it consistently...

Pity the rest of the runs were terrible; the one I just did involved a death at Maze of Love, and then after the card was over, rather than collecting the powerups like a sane person, I tried to auto-collect under max power and got Flantackled, dying again. Oh well, that's what I get for playing past 3 am I guess :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 20, 2009, 03:07:15 AM
Captured Syou's laser spin and her final attack on Normal. Bet I'll mess up both on a 1cc attempt.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: c l e a r on August 20, 2009, 03:45:36 AM
ReimuA, 1cced all the way up Stage 5 and beat it.  Then I messed up while playing dodge ball with the mobs in the beginning.  The "Full" item not Nue dropped is useless, seriously.  She can at least drop a bomb for crying out loud.  The fairies she spams out already drops nice power already in case you actually died in the Stage.

I bombed Byakuren's opening, first time doing it, didn't know the trick.  Now I kind of do.  Died by clipdeath on Purple Clouds.  Second Non-card, easy.  Died on Lasers in Makai Butterfly, the laser is quite frequent.  Bombed the third non-card, Bombed Star Maelstrom.  Messed up again in the last non-card, game over.

After a few continues, I grew to hate the dodge ball part.  But Byakuren is quite easy, though I did not make it to her penultimate card.

Now to practice Stage 5 like mad.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: SP on August 20, 2009, 05:54:53 AM
Got through nearly all of IN Extra no-vert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOnsVi4ToLE&fmt=22 Stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsz3Qs0RVoI&fmt=22 Mokou

It's actually fairly easy, then becomes completely impossible  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 06:47:31 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4429

There. I beat Miss Irritating Flandre Ripoff. Amazing how that works, eh? I finally don't die or have to bomb spam (still had to use one though due to *GASP* ME being stupid) her Red UFO card, and suddenly I get through the majority of her fight without dying. Then cue a stupid death due to me never facing her survival card before, and me capturing her final spell card (which is the only spell card besides the Chimera one that's any fun).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 08:20:43 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4430

Okay, this is just insulting. I haven't done a full game run of SA lunatic ever since I finally pulled off my first 1cc of it through blood sweat and tears (anyone who paid attention on the last forum will remember my little...hate-hate affair with SA). After beating UFO extra, I got that "itch" that crazy raving lunatics sometimes get to do a cold run of a game's lunatic. This itch was for SA, something I never intended to do again until I had a better computer. Well, not only did I 1cc second try (first try was a laugh track of failures on stage 1), it was with less slowdown mysteriously!

But what's insulting is how FUCKING HORRIBLE this run was. Seriously, I clip deathed Parsee's opener, died to her SECOND SPELL CARD in the most retarded way possible, died 2 or 3 times on Yugi's stage (you can tell I wasn't serious about this by the fact that I didn't restart), and I still managed to clear Utsuho with 0 lives. This just feels like a mockery of all the genuine hard work I put into the first 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 20, 2009, 01:01:21 PM
...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

So close. SO CLOSE. ARGH. GODDAMNIT WHY DO I ALWAYS FUCK UP THE BLUE WALLS IN ATWTBN? ;_; Maaaaaaaaaaan that sucks.

Having said that... EoSD Extra 0 deaths 1 bomb clear. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4435) HELL YES.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 20, 2009, 05:24:38 PM
And the blue walls of all places! Damn, i think i know how you feel. Seriously, that sucks dude. Capping QED and bombing ATWTBN. That's just a slap to the face.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 06:21:51 PM
That must suck. The blue walls are easy though: Just circle around the outside of the screen and there will always be an opening.

As for me, this doesn't really count as an accomplishment, but...I...have a new computer. Anyone who's cared to notice will know the significance of this for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 20, 2009, 06:45:43 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4430

Okay, this is just insulting. I haven't done a full game run of SA lunatic ever since I finally pulled off my first 1cc of it through blood sweat and tears (anyone who paid attention on the last forum will remember my little...hate-hate affair with SA). After beating UFO extra, I got that "itch" that crazy raving lunatics sometimes get to do a cold run of a game's lunatic. This itch was for SA, something I never intended to do again until I had a better computer. Well, not only did I 1cc second try (first try was a laugh track of failures on stage 1), it was with less slowdown mysteriously!

But what's insulting is how FUCKING HORRIBLE this run was. Seriously, I clip deathed Parsee's opener, died to her SECOND SPELL CARD in the most retarded way possible, died 2 or 3 times on Yugi's stage (you can tell I wasn't serious about this by the fact that I didn't restart), and I still managed to clear Utsuho with 0 lives. This just feels like a mockery of all the genuine hard work I put into the first 1cc.

It desyncs at Utsuho...

Actually, I've never been able to view a full replay. They all desynch during Utsuho's fight.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 20, 2009, 06:53:14 PM
Quote
It desyncs at Utsuho...
Actually, I've never been able to view a full replay. They all desynch during Utsuho's fight.

Almost all full SA replays desync IIRC, try running it from stage 5 without fast forward.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 20, 2009, 07:19:05 PM
And the blue walls of all places! Damn, i think i know how you feel. Seriously, that sucks dude. Capping QED and bombing ATWTBN. That's just a slap to the face.

Indeed. ;_;

That must suck. The blue walls are easy though: Just circle around the outside of the screen and there will always be an opening.

Ah righty, I'll try that next time. Perfect run, here I come~


As for me, this doesn't really count as an accomplishment, but...I...have a new computer. Anyone who's cared to notice will know the significance of this for me.

Awesome. So we can be expecting a Lunatic UFO 1cc within a few days, then? :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 20, 2009, 08:41:34 PM
Yeah! Virtue of Wind God Lunatic Capture!! Now i can die in peace.

A spellcard which is fun to do, even when you fail it! That's rare. The history says 1/25 but i'm not that good. I did try at least 40 times with ReimuA a couple months back and another 20 with ReimuB some months bkac so i guess it makes it about 80-90 attempts.

Now for my next big endeavour. Trying to get some sleep with all that adrenaline in my blood mixed with just having drunk a lot of soda combined with the fact that there is a thunder storm outside my window. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 20, 2009, 09:03:18 PM
You know that SA Stage 6 Lunatic TAS I did a while ago with ReimuC? Yeah, I redid the part where I circle around SubSun. Very entertaining until the end where I bomb like twice from stupid errors.

Will be on Youtube sometime eventually. Can't give replay due to desync from other hax involved.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 20, 2009, 10:40:07 PM
As for me, this doesn't really count as an accomplishment, but...I...have a new computer. Anyone who's cared to notice will know the significance of this for me.
<3

Time for you to legitimately 1cc LLS and MS. LLS is easy enough  :V

Also, I found a way to bypass the crashing for SA when saving replays (stage practice only).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on August 20, 2009, 10:58:43 PM
I am returning from my self-imposed two-week internet exile for one reason and one reason only.

(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8738/shikiowned.png)

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 11:21:05 PM
The image doesn't load. :P

Also, I'd say hi but you're already gone. :<

/me cries

As for me, this doesn't really count as an accomplishment, but...I...have a new computer. Anyone who's cared to notice will know the significance of this for me.
<3

Time for you to legitimately 1cc LLS and MS. LLS is easy enough  :V

Also, I found a way to bypass the crashing for SA when saving replays (stage practice only).

I've already done LLS lunatic legitimately on a school computer. That's actually when I perfected Kurumi and Elly on max rank. :O

EDIT: Oh it does load.

CONGRATULATIONS!!! :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 20, 2009, 11:21:28 PM
You know that SA Stage 6 Lunatic TAS I did a while ago with ReimuC? Yeah, I redid the part where I circle around SubSun. Very entertaining until the end where I bomb like twice from stupid errors.

Will be on Youtube sometime eventually. Can't give replay due to desync from other hax involved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0qn_2puEuk&hd=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0qn_2puEuk&hd=1)

WHEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 20, 2009, 11:24:00 PM
I've already done LLS lunatic legitimately on a school computer. That's actually when I perfected Kurumi and Elly on max rank. :O
LLS has rank?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 20, 2009, 11:27:20 PM
I've already done LLS lunatic legitimately on a school computer. That's actually when I perfected Kurumi and Elly on max rank. :O
LLS has rank?

Kurumi's second phase on lunatic normally: A bit claustrophobic but doable.

Kurumi's second phase on max rank: OMG WTF BOMB BOMB BOMB

That's how I know rank exists in LLS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 20, 2009, 11:41:03 PM
LLS has a nasty rank system. See: Stage 4 enemies' snowballs being shot at you at a really, really fast rate as you progress through.

No-Focus SA S4 Lunatic coming up. It's not perfect, but still.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 21, 2009, 12:23:39 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4443

In a random run of Byakuren (I'm beginning to love her fight...except for her fourth non-spell), I ended up capturing every spell card on hard except for her fifth spell card. This was the first time I captured her first, third, and sixth spell cards. Pretty awesome IMO.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 21, 2009, 12:46:32 AM
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Byakuren's a fun final boss~
Gamer masochism at its finest.
To me, Stage 6 is all about getting enough bombs to bomb 3/4 of the entire Byakuren fight and then lucking out on the final spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Slaves on August 21, 2009, 12:48:59 AM
after trying(and failing) to 1cc UFO Normal, i randomly try MoF Normal on Reimu B.

now, keep in mind, i have never done any game besides UFO on Normal.

i got to Kanako's last spell and got it down to about half health. on my first try ever.

HOW THE HELL DID I DO THAT?!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 21, 2009, 01:56:18 AM
FINALLY defeated Koishi(1 bomb 0 lives left :V)
Died in stage once, then no death until Embers of Love(0 power=survival, got walled), then lost one life on Genetics(15 seconds left, RAGE) and entered Subterranean Rose with 3 lives.....lost first one due to backrape(ring was almost gone but the roses still pwnt me since I hugged the bottom) and pretty much purely bombed the last phase.
94 attempts on Sanae's first card, 52 on Koishi's first.....only Flandre was harder so far.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 21, 2009, 02:08:14 AM
FINALLY defeated Koishi(1 bomb 0 lives left :V)
Died in stage once, then no death until Embers of Love(0 power=survival, got walled), then lost one life on Genetics(15 seconds left, RAGE) and entered Subterranean Rose with 3 lives.....lost first one due to backrape(ring was almost gone but the roses still pwnt me since I hugged the bottom) and pretty much purely bombed the last phase.
94 attempts on Sanae's first card, 52 on Koishi's first.....only Flandre was harder so far.

Koishi is the hardest Extra boss, IMO. Big congrats. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 21, 2009, 02:12:00 AM
after trying(and failing) to 1cc UFO Normal, i randomly try MoF Normal on Reimu B.

now, keep in mind, i have never done any game besides UFO on Normal.

i got to Kanako's last spell and got it down to about half health. on my first try ever.

HOW THE HELL DID I DO THAT?!
You've obviously improved at touhou. =V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 21, 2009, 02:37:49 AM
and MoF is the easiest Normal game.

congrats :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 21, 2009, 02:54:26 AM
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Byakuren's a fun final boss~
Gamer masochism at its finest.
No, that's me :V :V :V

Anyway, where was I...?
Quote
No-Focus SA S4 Lunatic coming up. It's not perfect, but still.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFZO8ZjORNk

It's definitely possible to 2-3 bomb clear this. But...  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 21, 2009, 04:09:56 AM
SCIENCE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjWHgQTi6rw&fmt=18)

Yeah, yeah, it was a) horrible and b) needs a lot of work, but hey, looky, I'm'a gonna do Let's Plays of Touhou!  Wooooooo!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 21, 2009, 04:38:35 AM
I should so totally get a mic and start doing actual commentaries. This way, donut can find out my gender oh ho ho ho ho

In all seriousness; microphones... talking while simultaneously trying to focus on dodging bullets is a lot harder than it seems apparently. Yeah, I want to seriously try this out, and see how much I would suffer in the process.

Love your voice (not sure why), and... haven't seen you around in a while  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 21, 2009, 04:41:07 AM
My voice isn't quite as nerdy as most LPers sound (at least to myself), but I don't like it. Not gonna do any LPs even if I had the equipment to do so.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 21, 2009, 04:50:16 AM
I should so totally get a mic and start doing actual commentaries. This way, donut can find out my gender oh ho ho ho ho

In all seriousness; microphones... talking while simultaneously trying to focus on dodging bullets is a lot harder than it seems apparently. Yeah, I want to seriously try this out, and see how much I would suffer in the process.
It is definitely distracting; I'd recommend a difficulty lower than what you have trouble with (i.e. Lunatic.  In other words, DON'T DO WHAT I JUST DID).

Love your voice (not sure why), and... haven't seen you around in a while  :V
oh so you're a girl
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 21, 2009, 05:10:37 AM
Funnily enough, ever since I heard that trying to do commentary makes you worse at Touhou, I've taken to making quips to myself out loud while playing. It's not hard, but I guess consciously thinking about what you say would be distracting. All the more reason not to do a Touhou LP and stick to regular videos.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sen on August 21, 2009, 05:11:34 AM
Oh lol. I opened up MoF out of boredom and chose Extra after not playing MoF for months. It's been so long, I forgot all of Suwako's attacks except her final card.

Beat the stage with only one death (Suwako's second survival card) and all but two cards captured (the other was Kanako's third spellcard).

She's even easier than I remembered.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on August 21, 2009, 06:00:08 AM
YEEAAAHHHH!!!

Finally, I managed to 1cc Easy a real Touhou game! And it's the easiest game that I've tackled so far, Mountain of Faith. Although I died about 3 times on Kanako's "Mountain of Faith," everything up until that point was no problem at all.

Well, time to update my list:
PoDD - 1cc Easy
MS - 2cc Easy (just 1 minute ago)
TEoSD - 3cc Normal
PCB - 2cc Easy
PoFV - 1cc Easy
MoF - 1cc Easy
UFO - Easy Clear

I'll start playing IN and SA, now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: JoonK on August 21, 2009, 06:35:35 AM
I managed to finally complete UFO on Normal difficulty.

Of course this is after a huge amount of continues. But this is special because this is the first game I have beaten all by myself, no hints, not cleared score datas, just me and a worn out keyboard.

If you want to see the video, with commentary, its http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vJ1oME29KA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vJ1oME29KA). I don't think I'm crazy at Touhou or anything, believe me. But I am pretty proud of this achievement, however trivial it seems to you guys.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 21, 2009, 07:38:59 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4446

I decided on a complete whim (oh god not again) to play PCB lunatic with Reimu B for the first time ever. In my most sucktastic run ever, I clear 5/1. It would have been 6/1, but I sucked really badly at getting point items so I didn't even approach the 1100 point item extend. I guess this could be thought of as awesome...if you swing that way I mean. This also seems to mean I've beaten this game's lunatic with all 3 characters.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 21, 2009, 07:59:02 AM
Wow, new achievement somewhat from a poor player = I got 4 lives left after beating Byakuren!

on easy.

yeah, I think that is worthy of mention. because I usually get zero.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4447

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Thaws on August 21, 2009, 09:21:06 AM
1cc UFO Normal with ReimuA with 2 lives 0 bomb left!

Can't believe it, I did Stage 4 Practice on SanaeB for like 10 times and never did a perfect Murasa boss fight, and rarely not die on the stage while trying to get UFOs.
Now I decided to try using ReimuA to attemp 1cc, I entered Stage 4 with 6 lives 0 bombs, I went out of it with 8lives 0 bombs no death, then did a perfect Murasa battle.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on August 21, 2009, 03:51:20 PM
Finally 1cced Normal with Marisa A. 1 life, 2 bombs left.
FUCK YOU MURASA FOR EATING MY LIVES
FUCK YOU SYOU FOR EATING MY LIVES AS WELL
FUCK YOU BYAKUREN FOR NOT LETTING ME CAPTURE FLYING FANTASIA AGAIN (This time, she just had 2 % life left)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 21, 2009, 05:21:49 PM
...Oh man, oh Christ, oh HOLY SHIT YES HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ahem.

Almost a year ago, I beat EoSD Extra for the first time. Today, I finally beat it flawlessly. :D

EoSD Extra Perfect Clear! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4459)

Now excuse me while I go and have a heart attack. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: SP on August 21, 2009, 05:43:13 PM
...Oh man, oh Christ, oh HOLY SHIT YES HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ahem.

Almost a year ago, I beat EoSD Extra for the first time. Today, I finally beat it flawlessly. :D

EoSD Extra Perfect Clear! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4459)

Now excuse me while I go and have a heart attack. :V

You are awesome, congrats.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ClockworkDreams on August 21, 2009, 07:31:24 PM
Just a personal goal, but I managed to make a 1cc of UFO on normal within a week of it coming out!

Wow. Has it really only been a week?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 21, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
UFO 1cc Normal with Sanae B done.
Had almost max lives at start of stage 5, and finished with only 3 lives left....Shou's fight was pretty much shotgunning her and when she did anything, bomb.
Same for Byakuren.....
Anyways, time to get owned at Nue.

EDIT: First attempt, captured some of the spells and made it to Danmaku Chimera....not bad I guess, considering that even reaching Koishi took me 10 attempts.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 21, 2009, 10:01:34 PM
...Oh man, oh Christ, oh HOLY SHIT YES HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ahem.

Almost a year ago, I beat EoSD Extra for the first time. Today, I finally beat it flawlessly. :D

EoSD Extra Perfect Clear! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4459)

Now excuse me while I go and have a heart attack. :V
WOW.  HOLY CRAP AMAZING.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 21, 2009, 10:23:29 PM
...Oh man, oh Christ, oh HOLY SHIT YES HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ahem.

Almost a year ago, I beat EoSD Extra for the first time. Today, I finally beat it flawlessly. :D

EoSD Extra Perfect Clear! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4459)

Now excuse me while I go and have a heart attack. :V

Good job, really. I'm still trying to beat Flandre without dying (got to Q.E.D last try, but died rather quickly). Just beat a few lunatics and you'll have me Parseeing over your skills that are vastly superior to mine.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 21, 2009, 10:36:03 PM
Finally got to Nue...that Extra is going to take a very, very long time to learn.

Also, OHGOD THE UFOs ARE ATTACKING

Lost on her third card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 21, 2009, 10:38:36 PM
I was able to 1cc the UFO demo on Easy... Yes, you may laugh at my skill level since 1ccing a DEMO on easy mode is an accomplishment for me...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 22, 2009, 12:16:11 AM
You are awesome, congrats.
WOW.  HOLY CRAP AMAZING.
Good job, really. I'm still trying to beat Flandre without dying (got to Q.E.D last try, but died rather quickly). Just beat a few lunatics and you'll have me Parseeing over your skills that are vastly superior to mine.

Hehe, thanks for the congrats. :D Also, Donut, I'm still nowhere near your level; EoSD Extra is pretty much the only thing I'm that good at since I play it about five times as often as anything else. Also, currently uploading a video of the replay to YouTube; Drake's awesome guide is awesome, etc.

I was able to 1cc the UFO demo on Easy... Yes, you may laugh at my skill level since 1ccing a DEMO on easy mode is an accomplishment for me...

Congrats! :) It's nothing to laugh at, an achievement is an achievement and it shows you're improving, regardless of difficulty (also for what it's worth UFO has possibly the hardest first three levels in the entire series). Keep it up!

EDIT: Okay, videos are on YouTube. Flan's fight is still being processed so it's not in HD yet, please wait warmly, etc.

Part 1 (stage) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpzwlTv_Yj8), Part 2 (Flan) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssy7aEDj05o)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 22, 2009, 12:19:29 AM
Heck freaking yes.

Finally cleared EoSD Extra with MarisA (aka Touhou on Ice), getting through QED on my first attempt.  QED wasn't that terrible, although that was probably because MarisA was kind enough to cut Flandre's HP enough that there was only one difficult dodge to make before she died.

I spent half the time fighting Patchouli and Flandre thinking "wow, I haven't been clipped yet".  The other half of the time was spent thinking "wow, I totally just ran into that slow-moving bullet because I didn't have anywhere else to go".

Cut by above post:  I know, I know, I'm joining the rest of the civilized world with this one.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Tarquinius on August 22, 2009, 12:57:04 AM
I finally got to Hiziri on UFO normal. It took major bomb abuse to get past Shou, but hopefully now I can practice stage 5 to the point were I will only lose a life or two on it rather than about six.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 22, 2009, 03:23:55 AM
I managed to make it all the way to Shou before having to continue. I then proceeded to be utterly obliterated by her first spell card, but hey, I'm definitely getting better...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 22, 2009, 04:03:58 AM
YEESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH GOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got past Ichirin without dying once to her, and now I'm at Muramasa with six lives! I might actually have a shot at a 1cc! ...Although, stage 5 could be capable of taking all that down by itself .-. Then again, I might be able to...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on August 22, 2009, 09:11:45 AM
I'll close the night by saying that I (barely) 1cc'd UFO on Easy. It wasn't my intention to; I was just trying out Reimu B, and... that happened.

That's two games down (or four, counting the Phantasmagorias)...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 22, 2009, 11:59:26 AM
UFO Hard Unlocked and ready to practice.

Blind run went great up until Syou, where I died horribly due to the extreme unfamiliarity of the Spell Cards.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Tenbatsu! Myon Rabbie on August 22, 2009, 12:25:21 PM
MS Extra Stage clear.
First Extra, fuck year!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Phar on August 22, 2009, 02:22:13 PM
UFO Lunatic Stage 4 perfect run. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hEf5N6mDu8&fmt=22) (replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4472))

This run came together a lot quicker than expected. It took a while to get those non-spells down. But aside from boss movements, they're completely static - the individual waves are perfectly identical to each other. So it basically comes down to devising a path to walk and applying it every time. That last non-spell is still luck-based bullshit though - you constantly get screwed over by bullets bleeding in from the previous spellcard, and if Murasa ever moves too far downward, the waves will just be too dense to dodge.

As for the spellcards: the second one is fucking hard, but very doable and very fun. The rest is basically figuring out the trick to it, and can be captured consistently once you do (though I very nearly screwed up near the end of the survival card).

Anyway, this stage is fucking awesome. Seriously, this is probably the best stage since IN stage 4 powerful. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 22, 2009, 05:58:12 PM
I captured Danmaku Chimera :V
And then died 2 times on the green UFO.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on August 22, 2009, 07:53:46 PM
My first time reaching Nue, I brought her down to 3 lifebars left. :V

Totally blind, too. I have no idea where I pulled some of those dodges. I finally died to the spellcard where she charges you, obscuring some bullets in black mist.

Wish I would have saved the replay.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 22, 2009, 09:05:25 PM
Managed to reach Byakuren's Shinkin card in a 1cc attempt. So close... So very close...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 22, 2009, 09:31:20 PM
A timeout of Everlasting Phoenix Tail. An excellent card for practicing UFO patterns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEyS7zag-9g&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Helix ⑨ on August 22, 2009, 10:37:01 PM
A timeout of Everlasting Phoenix Tail. An excellent card for practicing UFO patterns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEyS7zag-9g&feature=channel_page
God I hate that pattern... You can't really see the top side of the hitbox of those flaming balls
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 23, 2009, 12:00:11 AM
...O_O I beat Shou with seven lives left. I captured everything except her third, which I managed to only use one deathbomb on, and her final, which I had no mobs left to use on XD I think I can 1cc UFO! So what if it's Easy mode? <.< >.> The Stage 6 should be easy with the number of lives I have left now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 23, 2009, 12:05:01 AM
...O_O I beat Shou with seven lives left. I captured everything except her third, which I managed to only use one deathbomb on, and her final, which I had no mobs left to use on XD I think I can 1cc UFO! So what if it's Easy mode? <.< >.> The Stage 6 should be easy with the number of lives I have left now.
I've entered Stage 5 with 8 lives and finished the game with 3 on Normal.....it's like the game is serving you an assload of lives just because it's harder than other touhous.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Slaves on August 23, 2009, 12:06:26 AM
oh yeah

1cc'd UFO Easy with Reimu A because i was bored

and i'm now kicking myself because when i get to stage 6 on Normal i won't be prepared for the Normal version of Byakuren's spellcards :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 23, 2009, 12:08:40 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I managed to 1cc it with 3 lives left! This is my first 1cc ever apart from EoSD Easy!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 23, 2009, 12:35:14 AM
HOLY SHIT I DEFEATED NUE

Captured everything up to Danmaku Chimera(clipped it once), almost captured her black cloud crap, second time ever at rainbow UFOs and handled it pretty well.....suddenly, SURVIVAL.
Took it surprisingly well(first time I've reached it), don't remember whether I've died there or not but got to her final with 1 bomb and 2 lives.
Then it was up to the last stage of it, 1 life, 1 bomb.....blew the bomb early, then when I've seen the lifebar I've remembered my fail on Subterranean Rose....I was pretty much almost screwed by her final shitstorm, I was like OH SHIT and somehow I've magically dodged it all and she exploded.

I was shaking more than on my average dentist visit.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 23, 2009, 12:46:53 AM
At long last! This computer works perfectly! It can run any Touhou game without slowdown! I can finally do all the things I want to! :D

My first test was LLS extra. The final slowdown was a mere 0.18%. One thing I noticed on all the games I played though is that the games are...smoother. I can't really explain it, it's not as though the bullets are shooting faster or anything, but they...move smoother. It was kinda disorienting, which is why I happened to suck in all the test runs I did on various games. Still...~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 23, 2009, 01:10:15 AM
My first test was LLS extra. The final slowdown was a mere 0.18%. One thing I noticed on all the games I played though is that the games are...smoother. I can't really explain it, it's not as though the bullets are shooting faster or anything, but they...move smoother. It was kinda disorienting, which is why I happened to suck in all the test runs I did on various games. Still...~
I understand the feeling.
When I went from 1/2 frames to full frame rate, I was like "wow, are things supposed to be this smooth?".  It felt like it was different, and I wasn't sure if it actually was...

And then I played Yuyuko's GOAST KNIVES and wished for the slowdown again. :(

Murasa and Ichirin still slow it down in places, though...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 23, 2009, 02:03:25 AM
Say, is it just me, or is there control lag in MoF at full frame rate...? At 1/2 frame rate (where I had it on my old computer), my movements were completely smooth, but when I set it to full Reimu's movements seem slightly delayed. I'm not sure if this is just an illusion or not, but I'd like to ask if I've just been playing it "weird."
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on August 23, 2009, 02:46:32 AM
Anyway, this stage is fucking awesome. Seriously, this is probably the best stage since IN stage 4 powerful. :V
Really, because I find it to be worse than MoF stage 4 Lunatic.

Anyway, timed out Devil's Recitation Lunatic NDNB. Rest of the run went terribly and I gameover'd before even clearing Flying Fantastica, though. I'm really starting to hate almost all of stage 6 UFO Lunatic, a lot.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 23, 2009, 03:28:09 AM
Say, is it just me, or is there control lag in MoF at full frame rate...? At 1/2 frame rate (where I had it on my old computer), my movements were completely smooth, but when I set it to full Reimu's movements seem slightly delayed. I'm not sure if this is just an illusion or not, but I'd like to ask if I've just been playing it "weird."
I get output lag. Use Vsync regardless of either input or output lag.

In other news, this:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4483

EDIT: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4484
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 23, 2009, 05:35:04 AM
Captured Kanako's last two spellcards on Easy. The first one is not worth remembering it's name. It's so slow you inevitably have to navigate in a clusterfuck of bullets because they just won't get out the screen.
MoF easy is bleh. Way too slow, and almost impossible to unfocus without clipping some random crap.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 23, 2009, 07:25:24 AM
Just to prove I can do it again, LLS lunatic 1cc, now with a computer that can handle it...again! This was of course my best run ever, ending 3/2 (managed to beat Yuka's final phase with one death and no bombs...with Reimu A!). Sadly, I see that Vista doesn't appreciate my print screen ways, so I couldn't save an image as proof. :< Still, total slowdown was something like 0.52%, so I think that's proof enough that I'm good at the game~

Next up is MS lunatic, the one I REALLY need to work at and prove to myself I can do without slowdown. But that's for tomorrow. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 23, 2009, 08:21:32 AM
I successfully downloaded Applocale onto Vista! \o/ I can play EoSD without crippling controls again! I tell you, when I played EoSD without the vpatch because I hadn't installed Applocale, I realized just how unplayable the game was without it. There was NO precision at all.

And to be more on topic, in my celebratory run of EoSD stage 6 #273 (or something like that :V), I nearly captured Scarlet Meister. But I died on the last wave I needed to dodge, so I had to settle with another measly Scarlet Gensokyo capture. *kicks ground*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 23, 2009, 09:15:52 AM
UFO Extra, 2 deaths, no bombs. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4486)

Stupid mistakes on Kogasa's latter two spell cards, but otherwise a good run.  UFO Extra definitely isn't as hard as I gave it credit for on the first day, likely because on that first day I was sightreading everything and walked in with zero tricks up my detached sleeves.

The full stage no death/no bomb run is coming, even if I have to rage-vacation Touhou and come back to it in a few months like I did with MoF Stage 6.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 23, 2009, 10:27:15 AM
Did you people complain about lasers? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4487)

Or were you complaining about these ones? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4488)

Syou's First Spell Card is static by the way. Then again, a fair few are. And some can be memorized so that they're essentially static.

EDIT: 1cc Hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Iryan on August 23, 2009, 02:09:27 PM
Beat Nue today for the first time. The same run also yielded the first capture of her shadow charge attack.

Now I have to do it with a shottype that doesn't trivialize half of her spellcards.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on August 23, 2009, 04:53:42 PM
HOLY SHIT. I BEAT BYAKUREN ON HARD!
*shed's tears of joy*
I can now... have fun... with UFO again.

Edit: HOW DARE BAITY GET 1CC OF UFO ON HARD! Way to ruin my moment by out-achieving me...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 23, 2009, 06:52:32 PM
Not a huge accomplishment as such, but my first 1cc attempt of UFO Hard with SanaeB got me to the beginning of stage 6, which is the first time I've beaten Hard mode Shou on my first continue. Died very soon after that, but beat Hiziri straight after my first continue. A Hard 1cc might not be far off, especially considering that I did absolutely terribly on Stage 4 on that run.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 23, 2009, 07:03:01 PM
EoSD Normal: Got to Remilia a couple of times... Will I never beat this game!?
PCB Hard: Got to Prismriver's first non-spell =P
IN Hard: Got to Marisa's last spell
MoF Hard: Got tired of getting to Kanako and dying to her
SA Normal: Still can't get past 4th stage... It's the one I practice the least.
UFO Normal: Got to 6th stage twice.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 23, 2009, 08:01:31 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4494

UFO Extra Clear. It says "no" under "clear", but I cleared it. Dunno why it says that. I even downloaded the replay I uploaded and checked it, and yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on August 23, 2009, 10:52:27 PM
Yes, I suppose. After all, I've never seriously tried Lunatic before and know next to nothing about Lunatic Play.

The first time I played a Touhou game was 2 months ago. I've only cleared TEoSD on Normal, and PCB and UFO on Easy (Though I did 1cc PoFV Easy before). I need more practice in this, like in everything else, I guess.
the first time i played a Touhou game was 9 months ago. i've never cleared anything on Normal.

dohoho
I've only cleared TEoSD on Normal
It's been six months, and I still can't do this.
YEEEAAAAAH (The books are rage. Always.)
EoSD Normal: Got to Remilia a couple of times... Will I never beat this game!?

Quite a few of people seems to be having this problem.

* Goes to play TEoSD on Normal again

* Cleared it again

... That wasn't hard.

Though "Red Magic" is still... Grrrgh...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 23, 2009, 11:19:24 PM
Hahaha well everyone has a game they play better than others.

Today completes 2 months I've been introduced to Touhou.

I can get to Kanako on Hard pretty consistently, but i can't beat 3 games on normal yet.
EoSD, SA and UFO.

I die to very silly bullets... I still die on 3rd stage sometimes, 4th stage is guaranteed...

So yeah, i think EoSD Normal is harder than the previous games I've finished =P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 23, 2009, 11:46:05 PM
Did you people complain about lasers? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4487)

Or were you complaining about these ones? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4488)

Syou's First Spell Card is static by the way. Then again, a fair few are. And some can be memorized so that they're essentially static.

EDIT: 1cc Hard.

CURSE YOU!!!

Though I haven't even attempted a full run of UFO on this computer so yeah. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 24, 2009, 12:02:42 AM
So....has anyone managed to legitimately 1cc UFO-Lunatic yet?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on August 24, 2009, 04:57:24 AM
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5656/flanowned.png)

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1504/flanowned02.png)

Somehow, I managed to do these within five minutes of one another.

Suck it, UFO.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 24, 2009, 06:10:22 AM
So....has anyone managed to legitimately 1cc UFO-Lunatic yet?
Give me until this Saturday.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 24, 2009, 06:55:50 AM
Is this the true power of MS lunatic?

How very disappointing!

1cc'd MS lunatic 1/1 my second try (I've got to stop being so paranoid and playing on max lives, because even if I get enough lives for it to count as default, 4/1 makes me feel like I'm cheating >_>), and this was a run where I got sniped by a bullet that blends in with the stage 2 background. Other than that (which is a pretty big "that" mind you), this went beautifully. Turns out the lack of lag, ONCE AGAIN, actually makes it easier for me to dodge. To top off this run though...

I BEAT YUMEKO'S LASER PHASE.

I don't even know how I did it, but two direction changes later I beat the uber fast BS part. I seriously wish I had started recording videos by now so I could record that, because I still don't believe it.

Speaking of which, I got the full version of Fraps from an anonymous donor completely legal methods, so I guess I should start trying to record videos soon. I'm going to hold off on recording lunatic runs of LLS and MS until the English patches come out though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ebarrett on August 24, 2009, 08:06:30 AM
Beat SA's extra, which means all extras are finally cleared. Refusal to learn Ancestors Standing Beside Your Bed + chronic Sanae failures kept me from playing it for months - the first thirteen failed runs or so, back when I first beat SA's normal, featured a ridiculous 3/0/0 captures on Sanae's cards and a single run past Ancetors which ended at Polygraph.... numbers which immediately jumped to 7/3/3 vs Sanae after the first four runs today (her cards now feel almost completely trivial), and 100% against Ancestors since getting back to it because, really.

Rorchach can go to hell, by the way. The four times or so I played it, I died there with almost full energy... twice in two of the runs. Something about it makes me miss when I really, really don't expect. Apparently people complain a lot about Genetics of the Subconscious but 1. that card is just so much fun and 2. I'd probably be 2/2 against it if I didn't arrive at it both times with less than 2.xx energy.

Also, Subterranean Rose is more intimidating than the replays led me to believe, at least the first couple of times, specially the third phase (the first time I reached it, I got hit so hard by the roses I didn't even had a *late* deathbomb reaction). Great fun, though, and I got through it with only one deathbomb the second time. ("ok, so I am right where the previous run ended.... AND DOING THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE- *PEWNNNN*BOMB* phew")

* * *

Oh, and UFO's extra was cleared a few days ago in my third try, the blind run having ended in Danmaku Chimera which got me completely unprepared (after complete disaster at squiggly snaky lasers which is in fact the easiest part of the entire level) and the second run failing on the survival card's change from vertical to horizontal trickery (after realizing halfway through that I was screwed anyway because you don't get back any power during the Nue fight, so going for lives during the stage is stupid). The stage is so much fun, the same going for Kogasa's first two cards; wheel of fortune and most of the fight with Nue, less so.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 24, 2009, 11:38:01 AM
Expect Perfect Stage 5 from me very soon. Or, a 1-2 bomb clear since some of these dodges during the stage are UNBELIEVABLE, and I would rather bomb them away. Or just use SanaeB and take care of that mess.

"VoPB"UFO S5 SC4 at Lunatic (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4499), and random (hidden) notes.

Unfortunately, I misread basically every wave for AP2, and went screw this, bombed AP3 out of the way.

EDIT: What is wrong with Murasa's survival Spell Card? It looks alright to me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 24, 2009, 01:14:45 PM
Beat UFO extra.
Now I can watch a video of it to see how the **** you're supposed to do the survival card, rather than having 4 lives spare for it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 24, 2009, 01:40:22 PM
UFO Stage 6 Lunatic practice (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4504). I urge you to watch and see how easily I get walled on the stage. This is why I want to use MarisaB / SanaeB. This is why I would recommend them.

:V

Any help / brainstorming of Byakuren would be appreciated. Seeing as we're only a few weeks in or so, and "we're" this far in already.

EDIT: Getting closer I believe~ (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4505)
Hate clipdeaths though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on August 24, 2009, 01:59:06 PM
And now for something that isn't UFO.  First capture of Scarlet Gensokyo.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 24, 2009, 02:47:57 PM
And now for something that isn't UFO.  First capture of Scarlet Gensokyo.

Congrats!

And now, back to your regularly scheduled UFO News. :V

I just got to Hiziri's third spell card on Hard without continuing. A 1cc shouldn't take me too long now, especially if I ever actually manage to survive Stage 4 midboss Nue rather than die. It'd put me another two lives ahead, enough for the rest of Hiziri, methinks...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Tsym on August 24, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
Another diversion from UFO news.

I finally was able to get 10 million points in the first stage of EoSD on Hard.  Yay!  An actual run is still impossible for me though.  I just die to stupid things :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 24, 2009, 03:47:54 PM
With this, I advance to Level 9. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4506)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Rikter on August 24, 2009, 03:52:34 PM
I finally worked up enough intrest to play UFO again.


I died halfway through the first level on Normal and promptly lost intrest.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 24, 2009, 04:07:37 PM
I've, err, come to the conclusion that UFO Hard is more difficult than PCB Lunatic. I just tried PCB Lunatic for the first time in months and got to Yuyuko's 4th spell card on my first attempt without continuing. I haven't ever grinded PCB Lunatic either or practiced any of its stages, whereas I've been grinding UFO Hard for the best part of a week (minus some time for EoSD Extra obv), and yet on my first attempt I get further through Yuyuko than I've ever gotten with Hiziri. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 24, 2009, 04:13:38 PM
WTF.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i293/Arcengal/VoWGCLEARomg.jpg)

In my first attempt since UFO came out, BAM. WHAT THE HELL. Two INSANE dodges and boom.
I'm not complaining but....
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. It just came out of NOWHERE. It was supposed to be a WARM UP RUN. I'm still in shock...

*sigh*

At last that monkey is off my back.  :D

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4507
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 24, 2009, 04:40:00 PM
WTF.

In my first attempt since UFO came out, BAM. WHAT THE HELL. Two INSANE dodges and boom.
I'm not complaining but....
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. It just came out of NOWHERE. It was supposed to be a WARM UP RUN. I'm still in shock...

*sigh*

At last that monkey is off my back.  :D

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4507

Congrats, dude! That's pretty awesome. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
Defeated Kaguya on Hard.
Not a real 1cc though as I had 5 lives instead of 3(7 is overkill tbh), but I could pull a normal 1cc as 1 death less and the results would be the same.

Atleast that now I can practice 6B.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on August 24, 2009, 05:05:20 PM
I think most people would post this in the RAGE thread, but...
Got to Nue's survival card and actually survived the first half of the first part.
It isn't too bad and I might have survived it, but I had neither lives or bombs (fucking Multicolor UFO)
Compared to Philosophy of a Hated Person, it's way more fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 24, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
I HATE PATCHOULI
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on August 24, 2009, 06:21:19 PM
I HATE PATCHOULI
Ex-Midboss Patchouli?
OH YEAH. SHE'S A BITCH.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 24, 2009, 06:48:28 PM
no, i'm still at nornal / hard patchouli hahahahaha

i suck at stage 4 doesn't matter the dificulty.

i've had a 1 death run on easy, 1 death on stage 4 =/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on August 24, 2009, 07:24:37 PM
Flying Fantasia, kiss my ass!
BECAUSE I FINALLY CAPTURED YOU!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 24, 2009, 08:23:37 PM
I managed to capture all of Kogasa's cards in one attempt. Not really major, but still a first, and I'm happy about it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2009, 08:44:58 PM
Tried IN Lunatic.....almost captured Genealogy of the Sky-Born(clipped something just as she exploded), captured Game of Rising(both first attempt)
Unlocked Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, captured in 14 attempts. Go me. :V

Now if I could capture that stupid train card on NORMAL.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 24, 2009, 08:55:43 PM
HELLLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SCREW YOU AND SCREW YOUR LEGENDARY FLYING SAUCER, HIZIRI, UFO HARD 1CC'D (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4513)!

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan that was tense. I went into her final card 1/0 and died AND used my two bombs on the final phase and I STILL almost died again, third time lucky I guess. Seriously, Legendary Flying Saucer can go and screw itself, the final phase has killed me so often at crucial moments it's not even funny. I am not going to fight Hiziri again for at least a few more days. @_@

Aaaaand that brings me back to all the standard Touhou games 1cc'd on Hard mode, woo! :D

EDIT: Also, anyone have any clue what the reward message for Hard mode says? I'd like to know if there's anything else I can stick on my résumé. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kitten4u on August 24, 2009, 09:06:40 PM
Somehow managed to 1cc UFO easy with Marisa A.  I doubt I'll ever play that shot type again.  I can't deal with that screeching noise or the brightness of her options.  So that means I've cleared easy with 3 shot types now~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2009, 09:10:27 PM
Somehow managed to 1cc UFO easy with Marisa A.  I doubt I'll ever play that shot type again.  I can't deal with that screeching noise or the brightness of her options.  So that means I've cleared easy with 3 shot types now~
Congratulations, Marisa A made me ragequit on stage 4.
Nonstop item rain, bullets AND that laser.....and even the need to chase UFOs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 24, 2009, 09:20:04 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4515
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 24, 2009, 09:35:49 PM
Normal 1cc'd with SanaeB.  Extra is largely broken with her.  ReimuA is horrible.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 24, 2009, 10:41:51 PM
HELLLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SCREW YOU AND SCREW YOUR LEGENDARY FLYING SAUCER, HIZIRI, UFO HARD 1CC'D (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4513)!

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan that was tense. I went into her final card 1/0 and died AND used my two bombs on the final phase and I STILL almost died again, third time lucky I guess. Seriously, Legendary Flying Saucer can go and screw itself, the final phase has killed me so often at crucial moments it's not even funny. I am not going to fight Hiziri again for at least a few more days. @_@

Aaaaand that brings me back to all the standard Touhou games 1cc'd on Hard mode, woo! :D

EDIT: Also, anyone have any clue what the reward message for Hard mode says? I'd like to know if there's anything else I can stick on my r?sum?. :V

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

*cuts wrist again*

I guess I should "watch" these replays if I want a better idea of what to do, but whatever. Somehow this makes my MS lunatic 1cc insignificant...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 24, 2009, 11:09:00 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

*cuts wrist again*

I guess I should "watch" these replays if I want a better idea of what to do, but whatever. Somehow this makes my MS lunatic 1cc insignificant...

Pssh, a MS Lunatic 1cc is still damn impressive. I doubt I could do that; I had enough trouble with MS Hard. And you're welcome to watch the replay but to be honest I don't know how much it'd help - the Official Sapz Guide to UFO Hard? is basically:

1. Hoard lives on stages 1-5.
2. Hoard bombs on stage 6.
3. Bomb anything you have any semblance of trouble with.
4. Pray.
5. Swear violently whenever you die.
:V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 25, 2009, 12:30:10 AM
Finally managed to get UFO Extra stage portion down to no deaths, one bomb, and it was on Kogasa's third card with around 20% health left.  Ye gods, SanaeB is utterly broken.

...except that she's not; UFO is, and she's the equalizer.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on August 25, 2009, 01:16:00 AM
I beat Nue! :V

I capped the flashing UFO card and her last card this run, two cards I'm known to die, bomb, and die again on.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 25, 2009, 01:56:32 AM
1cc of SA Easy! Six lives left at the end! I did have some slowdown from at least the Orin battle onward, but it wasn't that bad, and I can't help my computer being completely evil <.<; Still, major accomplishment, especially with the number of lives I had left.

Here's the replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4520
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2009, 04:50:06 AM
I've decided I'm going to shy away from anything on UFO above normal until more people have beaten it and have good strategies.

With that, I've been making good use of my computer. In this playing session, I:

Beat IN stage 4a lunatic no deaths (not the first time, but still fun).

Died on the very last laser that could have killed me on SA stage 3. -_-

Captured Blazing Wheel and Uncontainable Nuclear Reaction without lag (I HATE Blazing Wheel and all other rhythm-based cards), also captured Peta Flare, yet somehow fucked up the Utsuho fight enough to clear with no lives left.

Accidentally timed out Small Demon's Revival no deaths or bombs. :V This spell card's not as bad as people make it out to be.





















EDIT: YES! I just beat Syou on hard with only one death (second spell card walled me D:)! I also captured her first spell card for the first time! And later I captured Byakuren's fifth spell card! Still no luck with Kogasa's first or third on lunatic though... ;_; I swear, it wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to go through the boring as hell stage portion to get to Kogasa.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2009, 07:37:35 AM
Okay sorry to double post, but editting your post twice in one day seems kinda stupid.

I noticed that Sanae B had stages 1 and 2 open for lunatic practice, so I decided for a change of pace to try my hand at Kogasa with her. And WTF I captured her first spell card like it was nothing?! What is this I don't even...

BTW, Sanae B seems very...weird. I know there was a thread on her, but I didn't follow it and don't feel like trudging through the whole thing, so can someone tell me how she works and why she's so great? Wasn't there something about her being a "no focus = more damage" shot type?

EDIT: ...Huh. I just captured Kogasa's first spell card with Reimu A this time. I guess the more important question is when did I learn this?

And besides that, Ichirin's second spell card captured on lunatic! \o/ It's not as bad as it seems. The real trick is to not get greedy with your damage output, or you will meet da fist.

Last and definitely least, third 1cc of normal: With Marisa B. Why is this least? Well, to avoid double posting in the rage thread, let's just pretend that the run ended with me reaching Syou with 7 lives in stock, and not when Syou killed me 5 times through various clip deaths (the worst being me not realizing that Marisa B's bomb invincibility wears off BEFORE the bomb does) and me clearing with only 2 lives.

And I turned the game up to full frame rate. Suddenly my play is a lot better. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 25, 2009, 09:02:03 AM
BTW, Sanae B seems very...weird. I know there was a thread on her, but I didn't follow it and don't feel like trudging through the whole thing, so can someone tell me how she works and why she's so great? Wasn't there something about her being a "no focus = more damage" shot type?
Simple. SanaeB has the shotgun + spread, as well as the second-best forward attack. The bomb also allows supergrazing (not to mention lol-shotgun + bomb).

It's about time I gave the secret. At 1.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 2 frogs, focusing gives you 1. At 2.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 4 frogs, focusing gives you 2. At 3.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 4 frogs(?), focusing gives you 3 frogs. At 4.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 4 frogs, focusing gives you 6 (4 front, 2 side / diagonal).

So unfocus hax only works at 3.00 Power or less, really.

And besides that, Ichirin's second spell card captured on lunatic! \o/ It's not as bad as it seems. The real trick is to not get greedy with your damage output, or you will meet da fist.
Turns out I need to be more aggressive, otherwise I time it out  :V

I did more S6 grinding (turned it down to Hard), and captured everything save for 2SCs. What were they? "Magic Butterfly"UFO S6 SC2 and "Legendary Flying Saucer"UFO S6 SC6. Normally, I can do "Magic Buttefly"...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2009, 09:30:13 AM
By frogs, do you mean the center shot, or the diagonal shots?

Anyway, for the final accomplishment tonight (I swear...), I finally rounded out Kogasa by capturing her third spell card! I have to say, that stargroup guy was pretty lame, but I have to thank him for causing me to look into Kogasa's third spell card and realize how fun it is. One of my favorite spell cards in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 25, 2009, 09:43:55 AM
Frogs. You know, the ones that come out when you fire? I don't think there's any need to clarify any further than that  :V

I see, edit for clarification for 4.00 Power.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2009, 09:51:11 AM
By center shot, I mean the multicolored bullets that come out regardless of what your power is. thinking about it though, you must be talking about the other bullets (when they're moving, it's hard to see if they're frogs).

And I think before I do another serious attempt at UFO hard I'm gonna 1cc the game with the rest of the shot types on normal to get a feel for all of them. It seems this game has done the best job balancing the shot types since PCB, making it so there ISN'T just one uber shot type and a bunch of progressively worse ones.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Helix ⑨ on August 25, 2009, 12:10:38 PM
I finally did it! Embodiment of the scarlet devil 1cc Normal! had a life and 3 bombs left on the very lsat pattern so I just spammed 5 bombs for safety :P
Extra stage is awesome! <3 (altough I haven't reached flandre yet :o)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 25, 2009, 12:49:26 PM
Syou Spell Card Showcase (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niSDRwkkQ8c)

EDIT: I'll get around to a Minamitsu showcase once I can do "Eternally Anchored Ghost Ship"UFO S4 SC3 without dying. Why can't I do it? (I'll label it "appropriately" too if you so wish)

Oh, and a Byakuren showcase once I capture "Legendary Flying Saucer"UFO S6 SC6. That'll take a while though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on August 25, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
I've, err, come to the conclusion that UFO Hard is more difficult than PCB Lunatic. I just tried PCB Lunatic for the first time in months and got to Yuyuko's 4th spell card on my first attempt without continuing. I haven't ever grinded PCB Lunatic either or practiced any of its stages, whereas I've been grinding UFO Hard for the best part of a week (minus some time for EoSD Extra obv), and yet on my first attempt I get further through Yuyuko than I've ever gotten with Hiziri. <_<

PCB is probably the 2nd easiest Touhou game, due to the amount of lives you get and the supernatural borders. Both SA and UFO on hard are harder than PCB on lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Kitten4u on August 25, 2009, 02:01:55 PM
Cleared UFO easy with all shot types~  I think I'm going to ditch ReimuA for SanaeB because she is amazing.  I'm going hold off on attempting normal until the English Patch comes out.

Now to go back to bagging my head against SA's extra. xx
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hawk on August 25, 2009, 03:25:33 PM
It's about time I gave the secret. At 1.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 2 frogs, focusing gives you 1. At 2.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 4 frogs, focusing gives you 2. At 3.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 4 frogs(?), focusing gives you 3 frogs. At 4.00 Power, unfocusing gives you 4 frogs, focusing gives you 6 (4 front, 2 side / diagonal).

I don't think this is the reason unfocused does more.  My argument is that, while you do get 4 frogs at 2.00 power, you can only shotgun with 2 of them hitting anyway, but it still does much more damage that hitting with the 2 focused frogs.  Here's my theory:

As with previous games, a character's normal shot (amulets, christmas trees, whatever the fuck Sanae uses...) are strongest at 1.00 power, and reduce in strength as you gain power.  However, in SA, there were exceptions to this rule: namely, Patch-Wood and Patch-Earth.  I believe Unfocused SanaeB (as well as MarisaB focused or unfocused) is also an exception, so the path goes like this (in order of unfocused then focused):

1.00 power

Powerful normal shot and 2 frogs hitting
Powerful normal shot and 1 frog hitting

2.00 power

Powerful normal shot and 2 frogs hitting
Weaker normal shot and 2 frogs hitting

3.00

Powerful normal shot and 3 frogs hitting
Even weaker normal shot and 3 frogs hitting

4.00

Powerful normal shot and 2 frogs hitting
Weakest normal shot and 6 frogs hitting

Now, based on this theory, I have to assume that frogs themselves get stronger, otherwise Unfocused 2.00 is the same as (or better than) Unfocused 4.00 power.  But this is just speculation.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 25, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
Sanae fires SoEW Reimu's basic shots, except more colourful. UFO is a huge PC 98 and Space Invaders reference. =3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hawk on August 25, 2009, 04:14:24 PM
Sanae fires SoEW Reimu's basic shots, except more colourful. UFO is a huge PC 98 and Space Invaders reference. =3

Are they still amulets, then?  If so, then we need a distinction...

Reimulets?
Sanamulets?

Rainbow Squares?




Ah!


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dragonmasterhawk/SanaeRavioli.png)
(http://www.tentazioni.co.uk/Ravioli.png)

Sanae shoots ravioli.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 25, 2009, 06:05:40 PM
Hey everyone! Have you guys tried to timeout Byakuren's Shinki spellcard? I don't know what to call it. I'm thinking of BoLaD Mark 2 cause Byakuren Rape Time is a little too much.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Rikter on August 25, 2009, 06:23:41 PM
I FINALY UNLOCKED AN EXTRA STAGE FOR THE FIRST TIME!!!!

Its UFO's on Sanae B.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on August 25, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
Brilliant Dragon Bullet Lunatic no-vert cap. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4530) Amazingly enough, only took 44 attempts (this requires a healthy dose of luck to cap in this fashion). Now to time it out...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2009, 06:44:38 PM
Hey everyone! Have you guys tried to timeout Byakuren's Shinki spellcard? I don't know what to call it. I'm thinking of BoLaD Mark 2 cause Byakuren Rape Time is a little too much.

Old. Very old. Also it's much easier than BoLaD time out or Gengetu Rape Time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 25, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
Old. Very old. Also it's much easier than BoLaD time out or Gengetu Rape Time.

This might be a bit of a stupid question, but what actually is Gengetu Rape Time? I assume it's some kind of difficult timeout phase but other than that I'm clueless.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxmaw-8UCn0

It's what happens when you time out Gengetu's last phase and she decides you take life for granted.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 25, 2009, 07:32:48 PM
@_@ I see... suddenly QED's timeout phase doesn't seem so insane after all.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hawk on August 25, 2009, 08:13:39 PM
Woo hoo!  1CC'd UFO Normal with MarisaB.  It's weird how it was so much harder than the rest.  But now Extra is unlocked for everyone.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Esoterica on August 25, 2009, 08:29:41 PM
It's weird how it was so much harder than the rest.
Well, until you consider how terrible her bomb is. v;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 25, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
AAAAUGH GENGETU SPARK

Managed to get to Gengetu's fifth phase.  Problems:

1) I thought I knew how the fourth phase (bouncy yellow diamonds) worked.  BOY WAS I WRONG.  Help?

2) Died 8 times...only bombed 11.  Need to work on that.

3) HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO THE FIFTH PHASE IT'S A WALL OF BLUE

I dodged it by sheer luck once, then got GENGETU SPAAAAAAAAAK'd in the face.  Help!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2009, 08:47:31 PM
It's actually not that hard. Stay in the center of the blast, quickly dodge in a horizontal direction and move back. I hope you know how to dodge the spark part.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 25, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
I dunno, it looks like there are way too many of the little blue things, but next time I get there I'll give it a go.

Awesome Nue run.  Two bombs on the stage (Kogasa's third card and an error on the grid part), one bomb on her third noncard (I hate that attack) and captured everything else until a clipdeath on Danmaku Chimera.  The darkness card is complete crap, though.  It makes Genetics look fair.  Game overed by standing on the first horizontal laser on the survival card.

Damn, at this rate I'll clear two Extras in the next couple weeks!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 25, 2009, 09:20:20 PM
I tried some no-bomb runs of IN lunatic for the lulz and because I was starting to get sick of UFO.  It was mostly just stage 1 restarts, but I had two runs where I got somewhere. 

The first time I crapped all over stages 2/3 and died at Ephemerality or something like that.  The second I got 3 lives raped out of me by Mystia (two to her penultimate card... yeah), but then somehow managed to get all the way to Marisa's last noncard (I perfected midboss Marisa too, which I've never done).

I almost want to look into this more, but I'm painfully inconsistent with Mystia and Marisa and the thought of actually going up against Kaguya without bombs kind of makes me die a little inside.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 25, 2009, 09:20:52 PM
Captured 9-1 and 10-1 in Shoot the Bullet, pushing me up to 69 scenes cleared.  I'm on a roll for getting past deliberately impossible attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 25, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
HOLY CRAP, VSYNC PATCH=MAGIC.

Tried EoSD, defeated Flandre(for the second time ever), almost with 2 lives left.....
Captured Starbow Break(safespotted it before), Catadioptric(never managed it before), Maze of Love with 1 bomb, then clipped QED like a total newb.
Still, a much nicer run than my first clear which took 130+ attempts :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on August 25, 2009, 10:36:24 PM
First tried Flandre with vsync patch! :V

...Kinda.

It was my first time ever getting past maze of love, so I was kinda lost from that point on, but I made it to QED, sweat dripping from my brow in the epicness of actually taking out the infamous Flandre in one try, a few miracle dodges later, I see light and rapidfire noises...!

And I die. At the same time Flandre did. I am not sure whether to call that a victory or not. I mean, I didn't see the results screen, but she had no more life to speak of...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 25, 2009, 10:59:03 PM
Speculation about Power.
I don't think that the base shot is getting weaker. I'm trying it at various powers, and don't see any difference. Perhaps the speed of the frog is inversely proportional to damage? So we could be having say, faster frogs doing a lesser amount of damage (at lowest; half the damage) than the slower frogs.

Hey everyone! Have you guys tried to timeout Byakuren's Shinki spellcard?
Yes I have.
This might be a bit of a stupid question, but what actually is Gengetu Rape Time? I assume it's some kind of difficult timeout phase but other than that I'm clueless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxmaw-8UCn0

It's what happens when you time out Gengetu's last phase and she decides you take life for granted.
Funny how I actually managed to properly dodge a few rings, isn't it?

Analysis of Syou's SCs in a bit. At worst, it'll be vague information. At best, it'll help  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Tarquinius on August 25, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
I just 1cced Perfect Cherry Blossom on normal with ReimuB, my first normal 1cc of any Touhou game. I did start with 4 lives instead of the default 3, though, and the only way I got past Resurrection Butterfly was with heavy bomb use. Still, I'm very happy, especially considering I haven't played PCB since UFO came out. Replay here (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4537).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hawk on August 25, 2009, 11:59:43 PM
I don't think that the base shot is getting weaker. I'm trying it at various powers, and don't see any difference. Perhaps the speed of the frog is inversely proportional to damage? So we could be having say, faster frogs doing a lesser amount of damage (at lowest; half the damage) than the slower frogs.

How are you able to accurately test the power of focused base shots?  If I wasn't clear (which is likely), I was hypothesizing that only the focused base shots get weaker, and the unfocused remain the same.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Yukkuri on August 26, 2009, 12:09:33 AM
I just 1cced Perfect Cherry Blossom on normal with ReimuB, my first normal 1cc of any Touhou game. I did start with 4 lives instead of the default 3, though, and the only way I got past Resurrection Butterfly was with heavy bomb use. Still, I'm very happy, especially considering I haven't played PCB since UFO came out. Replay here (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4537).
Great job.  Now your 2nd 1CC of normal will come faster.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 26, 2009, 02:36:49 AM
Well that was weird.

I froze the initial power value to 4.00 in UFO. If you die while shooting, you'll come up with only three options and one shot will be shooting out of nowhere from where you died. It will change according to focus/unfocus, too.

awesome
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 26, 2009, 02:53:11 AM
Well that was weird.

I froze the initial power value to 4.00 in UFO. If you die while shooting, you'll come up with only three options and one shot will be shooting out of nowhere from where you died. It will change according to focus/unfocus, too.

awesome
GODRAKE. YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 26, 2009, 03:12:40 AM
Superhuman "Byakuren Hijiri"UFO S6 SC5 is statically easy. I honestly don't see anything wrong. Took a while to work everything out but eh.

UFO Syou Analysis (quick summary)
SC1: Static. Learn the spots. The showcase I did used impromptu dodging between the second and third "parts".
SC2: Reading walls. Watch for the lasers.
SC3: Spinning lasers! Get a general "feel" for the way the lasers work. Watch for clipdeath at higher difficulties. Moving in smaller circles means you move "faster" around the screen.
SC4: Reading bullets. It's fairly predictable. Bottom of the screen is "safe" for every even numbered wave of lasers.

Non-spells / APs are just laser parsing. The third one has lasers aimed at / around your position. Most of it can be done with only minute movements.

How are you able to accurately test the power of focused base shots?  If I wasn't clear (which is likely), I was hypothesizing that only the focused base shots get weaker, and the unfocused remain the same.
I used a "blind spot" for 2.00 Power, and saw nothing different. However, I wouldn't say that my method of measuring the difference to be accurate; it's only giving me an approximation. At this point, I'm not too concerned about whether the frog speeds are affecting damage, or whether the actual base shot is changing damage.

However, it would strike me as being odd that unfocusing and focusing would be changing the base damage if that were to be true. MoF (as an example) had altering values of base damage at different Power levels, but unfocusing and focusing had no effect on the base damage at all.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 26, 2009, 03:26:03 AM
Does it count as beating something without dying if you had the resources to easily do so but chose not to for the fun of it? Because I perfected the stage portion of UFO stage 2 lunatic, bombed only on Kogasa's first spell card, and reached her last with a bomb to spare, but chose not to use it and died. I very easily could have used the bomb and ended without dying, so I feel inclined to say I beat it no deaths.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seiryuu on August 26, 2009, 03:38:11 AM
Something's just not right with Nue.

I got to her three times on ReimuA, and while I died on SC2 the first two times, I beat her on the third. How is that possible?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 26, 2009, 03:50:28 AM
UFO Extra, No Deaths/No Bombs (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4538)

Honestly don't know why I did this.  It's probably because I've given up on learning Lunatic and wanted to feel like I did something before dropping the game entirely.  Or maybe I just wanted an excuse to keep playing that awesome Frogger card.  Or maybe it's the socks.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 26, 2009, 03:53:25 AM
Wait, so people are seriously just giving up on UFO lunatic? That's not the spirit! I'm counting on you guys to NOT give up. D: D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 26, 2009, 04:15:58 AM
Or maybe it's the socks.
This is probably the only reason (apart from music, which I like actually) why I'm still touching Extra.

Wait, so people are seriously just giving up on UFO lunatic? That's not the spirit! I'm counting on you guys to NOT give up. D: D:
I'm counting on you guys to NOT give up. D: D:
They just need inspiration  :moogy:

Also, delays in Perfect Stage 5 Lunatic. Post-Mid-Boss fairy spam is ridiculous. Even with SanaeB.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 26, 2009, 04:43:11 AM
They just need inspiration  :moogy:

This.  I sat down and thought about it though, and, as bloody fucking clipdeath WHY CAN'T I CAPTURE ANYTHING IN THIS FUCKING GAME??? rageworthy it is, with the thought of going back to the same games that I've ground out endlessly for the last 9 months (even longer for you older veterans), I'd probably end up bored as hell going back to the same old routine stages.  Having something new to learn is a fresh start, a breath of fresh air, so maybe I'll give it another chance tomorrow.

But I won't be surprised if tomorrow, I regret saying that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 26, 2009, 06:28:02 AM
That was stupid. I did a TAS of UFO Stage 6 Lunatic. Most of it was pretty terrible as it was my first time, but holy youkai jesus Legendary Flying Saucer is amazing. And of course IT DESYNCEDKBADKJBADADSDSF
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: bjw on August 26, 2009, 06:30:03 AM
Or maybe it's the socks.

Those damn delicious socks.

As for UFO Lunatic, yeah, some of the difficulty has been tackled by various players, but my opinion of it still hasn't changed: I'm not having fun with this game. It's nice knowing stuff like Syou's 1st card being static, but even with this knowledge, I still can't bother myself into double clicking the UFO executable. UFO has it's moments, but overall, I am greatly underwhelmed.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ghaleon on August 26, 2009, 06:43:22 AM
Due to a recent post about hong meling, I decided to give lunatic EoSD a go for old times' sake. I was doing so-so..not good enough to 1cc it again, but I didn't expect to given how long it's been since I've played (I've totally forgotten the stages, so many deaths result in being in the wrong place before certain spawns, particularly for stage 4).

Anyway, I got to patchy. While I died on sylphae horn high level, I captured agni radience (I think that's what it was called), and forest blaze.. no suprise there. But I also captured emerald megalith. I R teh pawnz! It wasn't an anti-climatic cap either, I had to do some really close-call grazes. It felt like I earned it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on August 26, 2009, 07:14:35 AM
Wait, so people are seriously just giving up on UFO lunatic? That's not the spirit! I'm counting on you guys to NOT give up. D: D:
Honestly, I just don't find it fun is all. I just played a ton of IN Extra again, managed a pair of caps of Mokou's final noncard and then did a couple timeout runs for lulz, that ended...predictably. Despite this, I found the whole experience great fun.

This is in stark contrast to UFO Lunatic, my opinion of which is something along the lines of "not this shit again". Nice to know that Syou's first spellcard is static, that still means micromemorizing it, i.e. not my idea of fun at all. I've known that Kirby's Air Ride (stage 6 UFO spellcard #5) is static since my second playthrough of the stage, I still consider it pure bullshit simply because it's Hourai Jewel 2.0 - you might as well say that Hourai Jewel is statically easy and while you'd be right on the static part, I will quite vehemently disagree on the easy part.

So even though UFO does have its fun moments, they're scattered haphazardly in a sea of hate and rage and godawful danmaku design and basically one day I realized "wait all that playing UFO Lunatic is doing to me is making me wish to violently throw things across the room and curse under my breath", as opposed to normal Touhou, which does the latter, but notably, not the former. Cleansing of UFO from my harddrive with fire (after a backup of score.dat) ensued.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 26, 2009, 08:43:46 AM
Heh...yet you guys think SA is like the best game in the series (until UFO, SA was my least favorite of the Windows series shooters). I say that with enough practice, UFO lunatic is entirely doable. After all, if you can reach 7 lives by Ichirin on normal, you can theoretically do the same on lunatic. My only problem is that I can't unlock anything on lunatic above stage 3 to GET more practice. :V

Also, you at least realize that Byakuren's fifth spell card has one side that kills you and one that lets you live, right? I realize she's MUCH faster on lunatic than hard, but watching that TAS I noticed this my first time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ghaleon on August 26, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
Heh...yet you guys think SA is like the best game in the series

I know you weren't referring to me but I must profess my undying love for EoSD. Sure there are occasions where a normally simple spellcard screws you over due to just plain unfair randomness. But I really enjoy how easy the game is to memorize, whilst remaining challenging overall. I honestly think I would have 1cc'd pcb lunatic long ago if I just didn't find the stages so damn frusterating because I forgot that shoot too many bullets to dodge safely fairy #53 spawns right THERE and I wasn't in position to nail her ahead of time, thereby making me waste a bomb or something for the 10th time this run.

Plus remila's Scarlet gensokyo is probably the hardest end card in the serieis imo. It might not be the hardest to capture (though it might be), but it is the most resistant to bombs, in addition dying to it doens't really give you an IWIN on your next life, other final spellcards kinda do that. Remila just doesn't freakin DIE. Very climatic imo.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 26, 2009, 09:02:24 AM
Scarlet Gensokyo is the most resistant to bombs until you discover that you can knock out an entire wave by standing on Remilia before your bomb invincibility wears off. :V This knowledge single handedly led to my first 1cc of its lunatic.

Personally, I don't have a favorite Touhou. I like to think of them all as one big game, with parts that are slightly less awesome (UFO being the scrappy world next to SoEW, which the developers had to do a public apology for). If I had to choose one I enjoy playing the most in full runs though, it'd be LLS believe it or not. Even though it's one of the easiest lunatics to 1cc, it gives some genuine challenges yet remains fun with its atmospheric music and easy yet fun levels. Actually, if LLS didn't give you TEN LIVES even on default settings, it'd be one of the hardest Touhous to 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 26, 2009, 12:03:31 PM
you might as well say that Hourai Jewel is statically easy and while you'd be right on the static part, I will quite vehemently disagree on the easy part.
Isn't a card with any homing elements not static by definition?

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Or maybe I just wanted an excuse to keep playing that awesome Frogger card.
?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 26, 2009, 12:10:59 PM
you might as well say that Hourai Jewel is statically easy and while you'd be right on the static part, I will quite vehemently disagree on the easy part.
Isn't a card with any homing elements not static by definition?

True, it wouldn't technically be static, but if you take a card that is either purely homing, or static with homing elements, and you move in a static way in every run, then the card essentially becomes "static" in a manner of speaking.  The point he's making is that, you can memorize a path of exact movements through Hourai Jewel that'll get you through it every time.  It doesn't make it easy.

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Or maybe I just wanted an excuse to keep playing that awesome Frogger card.
?

Nue's survival card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 26, 2009, 12:38:14 PM
Have the Japanese Players 1cc'd UFO Lunatic legitimately yet?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 26, 2009, 01:59:07 PM
Have the Japanese Players 1cc'd UFO Lunatic legitimately yet?
Legitimately, there's a few. See attachment.

EDIT: ...Hell, looking at a certain one, I'm quite sure I can 1cc this like, right now. But hey, sleep first. And tomorrow's a busy day~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 26, 2009, 03:34:54 PM
...Wow. Okay, wow. That went so much better than my last attempt it's not even funny.

I just tried Phantasm no focus with Reimu A again; my last attempt failed miserably, embarassing deaths at Butterfly in the Zen Temple, getting a game over on Yukari's 7th non-card, etc. This time, I completed the stage dying only three times during the whole thing - once on Mesh of Light and Darkness, and twice on BoLaD (the reason for that is somewhat funny, actually; it took me so long to beat BoLaD with an unfocused Reimu A that I actually reached the time out phase without ever letting go of the shoot button).

Obviously I used a load of bombs/borders, but to be honest not as many as I would have expected I'd need; I was anticipating a skin-of-my-teeth clear like with EoSD/IN Extra. I also capped Shikigami Ran and Danmaku Bounded Field, which I'm very pleased with. :V

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4543

So, that makes 5 Extra stages no focus cleared (lol, SoEW). I have a feeling that Suwako, Koishi and Nue's stages will be much more difficult. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Rikter on August 26, 2009, 04:49:40 PM
Well I beat UFO Extra I need to get back and do EoSD now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 26, 2009, 06:26:48 PM
HELL YEAH, CAPTURED MAZE OF LOVE :V
And then died with 3 bombs on Catadioptric.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 26, 2009, 06:45:04 PM
HELL YEAH, CAPTURED MAZE OF LOVE :V
And then died with 3 bombs on Catadioptric.

Congrats! Maze of Love took me months to crack, haha. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 26, 2009, 07:05:21 PM
Or maybe it's the socks.
Oh man, the comparisons just keep coming, don't they?  Flansocks wants a word with you...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hawk on August 26, 2009, 07:20:39 PM
Beat UFO Extra with SanaeB again, but this time, I actually captured her final card.  I know people have been saying it's really easy for a final card, and I agree until the final phase, which is, to me, complete luck-garbage.

Anyone else find it odd that, in the game that wants to be much more random than its predecessors, its timeout is so statically easy?  There is some randomness to it, but not much.  I think it's the easiest of all the Extra timeouts.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 26, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
Nah, And Then Will There Be None is definitely the easiest. Even without a hitbox it can't touch me, and is the only one I can capture consistently.

And Nue's final spell card IS easy. I captured it the first time I ever saw it. I'm good at pure bullet reading cards and suck at cards that require you to follow a specific process or die (DIE RED UFO CARD DIE).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 26, 2009, 08:02:47 PM
Nah, And Then Will There Be None is definitely the easiest. Even without a hitbox it can't touch me, and is the only one I can capture consistently.

Ehh, I've always found Possessed By Phoenix to be the easiest. ATWTBN has some pretty fast, tight dodges involved; Possessed is pretty much just:
1. Move in a big circle while doing light bullet dodging.
2. Move slowly in a circle.
3. Move in a big circle.
4. Move in a big circle while doing light bullet dodging. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 26, 2009, 08:03:53 PM
Anyone else find it odd that, in the game that wants to be much more random than its predecessors, its timeout is so statically easy?  There is some randomness to it, but not much.  I think it's the easiest of all the Extra timeouts.

No.
No.
No.

Border of Humans and Youkai is *by far* the easiest survival card in extra stages, then ATWTBN. Suwa War or Philosophy are the hardest, but I find Nue's to be pretty hard as well.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 26, 2009, 08:10:20 PM
I find Border of Humans and Youkai somewhat hard.....

Possessed By Phoenix is by far the easiest.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 26, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
What's so great about Nue's survival card anyway? I have captured it but it wasn't really fun at all. Felt claustrophobic.

Maybe the battle is still worth it though. That bubble-non spell is fun i think. And i also need to capture the final spellcard. I always get hit by the last wave.

If for nothing else, i'll just drop by for the socks... oh and Kogasa is one of my favorite extra mid-bosses. Except for her third one.

I find Border of Humans and Youkai somewhat hard.....

Possessed By Phoenix is by far the easiest.

I'm currently trying to do Kokkuri-sans Contract. I always die at least once. Then again, i've only tried three times. At least i got Shikigami Chen. I don't know why i failed that so much in the past. Its so simple. Still, Possesed by Phoenix is actually very easy if you know how to do it. That means Border of Humans and Youkai can only be harder.

Why does extra bosses have to have these anyway? Well at least there's only one in Nue's battle. That automatically makes her superior to Koishi. :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 26, 2009, 08:44:03 PM
PbP is the only one I've captured as it's mostly just about moving around constantly and tapping in the second phase.... (no memorization, no claustrophobic dodging)

At first I've found Chen easier than Ran, but once you figure out that staying at the bottom makes you safe and that Ran is aimed, Chen suddenly becomes harder.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 26, 2009, 09:41:40 PM
PbP is a lot harder when you simply can't do the tapping right. No matter how much I try I can't tap at the right pace long enough to either avoid getting shot or hitting the top. When you have to do it the spiral method it suddenly gets to the same difficulty as the other survival cards.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 26, 2009, 09:42:26 PM
Finally defeated Flandre with 2 lives left.
Captured Cranberry Trap(finally started to make sense to me, now I can capture it semi-consistently), L?vatein, Four Of A Kind, Kagome, died on Maze of Love but finished it without bombing(had no bombs to begin with), bombed Starbow Break once, same for Catadioptric(when I bomb when she shoots the reflecting shots to the right, the left one gets cleared too and I can finish her without risk with ReimuB), captured Counter Clock, started ATWTBN with 4 lives and 1 bomb, QED with 3 lives and 2 bombs, stupidly clipped it with both bombs and finished it with 2.....could finish it with 3.

Still, it's an improvement :V

And I do PbP the spiral tapping way too....I don't find it too hard. Easier than other survivals for sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 26, 2009, 11:23:51 PM
PbP is a lot harder when you simply can't do the tapping right. No matter how much I try I can't tap at the right pace long enough to either avoid getting shot or hitting the top. When you have to do it the spiral method it suddenly gets to the same difficulty as the other survival cards.

Same thing, though I hit the bottom, not the top. Because of the way the familiars are placed, I believe it's MUCH easier to start from the top. The familiars don't spawn on the very bottom of the screen, so you can continue to tap slowly for some time, which should be long enough for that phase to end.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 26, 2009, 11:34:14 PM
Cheesing the second phase of PbP just requires using extremely small and easy taps.  Like, Secretly Inherited Art of Danmaku taps.  Just remember that the arrows have ridiculously small hitboxes and don't let them spook you.  It's also good to stay at the bottom and let some of the familiars spawn before you start tapping, so that you get more room to work with.  Just count until 5-7 of them appear and then start.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 26, 2009, 11:43:05 PM
I KNOW this. -_- The sad fact is that I suck at rhythm-based attacks plain and simple. Stuff like Blazing Wheel just destroys me. It's why I can do stuff like lunatic Touhou but can't even begin to touch stuff like Stepmania.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 27, 2009, 01:23:34 AM
Cheesing the second phase of PbP just requires using extremely small and easy taps.

I don't know what you're using to play, but extremely small taps sure as hell aren't easy. Sometimes the character moves twice farther than I wanted it to, and at other times the character barely moves at all and gets hit from behind in streaming parts. I tried pressing the key with my index, and it wasn't much better. It's so damn inconsistent it's completely useless.

I don't want to fight with my keyboard while I'm playing. Going from top-left to bottom-right works almost every time anyway.

EDIT: My W key just came off and I had to place it back. Seems like my keyboard is pretty crappy actually. Maybe I could use it as an excuse for my crappy runs...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 27, 2009, 01:51:35 AM
Quote
the final phase [of Nue's last spell], which is, to me, complete luck-garbage.
Thank you.
Nue's last spell is an embarrassment in at least three different ways.

Possessed by Phoenix is the easiest Extra timeout, although Nue's spell comes close if you learn how to go through the chimera walls.  Even if you can't do the taps right like me you can still circle around the screen and get through every one of the phases.

I actually think the blue wall spirits at the beginning and the red cage are the worst parts of ATWTBN.

I don't have the patience to micromemorize Boundary of Humans and Youkai :v
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 27, 2009, 05:39:00 AM
Hah! Finally perfected Reisen. I've beaten her without bombs or deaths before, but I've never captured Tele-Mesmerism in the same run. Seriously, what was ZUN thinking when he designed this fight. This is the only time in the series when a stage 5 boss is easier than the stage 2 boss.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 27, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
Hah! Finally perfected Reisen. I've beaten her without bombs or deaths before, but I've never captured Tele-Mesmerism in the same run. Seriously, what was ZUN thinking when he designed this fight. This is the only time in the series when a stage 5 boss is easier than the stage 2 boss.

That's only because of that non-spell Mystia has... retarded. Then there is Spell 21. Aside from that, all Mystias stuff is incredibly easy and i think Reisen have something that tops her. Reisens "Mind Stopper" for example. That's much tougher than anything Mystia have imo. (Maybe there is something i'm missing.)

Aside from Mind Stopper, anything Reisen has is pretty simple (Aside of Tele-Mesmerism of course). I don't know about her non-spells though as i've only done her in Spell Practice at least on the Lunatic difficulty.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 27, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
3 of 5 of her spellcards are pretty pathetic even on lunatic, and one of the harder 2 is a last spell.
Her opener isn't much different on Lunatic, her second one is kind of luck based, and the third one isn't too hard either.
So yeah, useless rabbit, only good for her sex appeal :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Tsym on August 27, 2009, 03:02:01 PM
In the midst of my EoSD rage period where I couldn't advance past Stage 2 with the normal 3 lives + 2 extra from score, I had a semi-brilliant run where I lost 4 lives in the first two Stages, but I was able to survive until Stage 4 with lives from Score until I screwed up :P.  Oh well.  It's still pretty far for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on August 27, 2009, 04:14:19 PM
FINISHED UFO EXTRA! FINALLY!
Better yet, I captured the Frogger card for the first time!
All in all, 8 of 13 cards captured (Kogasa 1st & 3rd, Nue 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 9th)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alper on August 27, 2009, 04:26:14 PM
SA Hard with MarisaA. Much easier than thought, I could handle it with ease even after dying in dumb places about 5 times. Panicked on Hell's Tokamak, Subterranean Sun and Utsuho's third noncard though.

Wide shot is such a blessing. UFO Hard and Extra are still annoying, though. What's the trick to Kogasa's lasers?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 27, 2009, 04:35:56 PM
Timed out Catwalk on Hard difficulty. I didn't have the stage unlocked on Lunatic so i couldn't try for it on that difficulty. Not that i'd have much sucess anyway.

Here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-Pf_IGFUc
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on August 27, 2009, 04:38:54 PM
What's the trick to Kogasa's lasers?
Just don't panic. It's like Danmaku Paranoia: Move as few as possible.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 27, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
The lasers are the easy part.
Guerilla Typhoon and the bean bullet walling crap are much harder....
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 27, 2009, 05:09:17 PM
What's the trick to Kogasa's lasers?

Mental agility/prediction *or* moving inside a gap as the lasers slow down.


As for me:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4554

MoF Normal Reimu B no vertical. I was convinced I was going to do it no-deaths halfway through stage 5, then I died to Thaumaturgy and realised later that three of Kanako's attacks are impossible no-vertical.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 27, 2009, 05:15:58 PM
What's the trick to Kogasa's lasers?
Just don't panic. It's like Danmaku Paranoia: Move as few as possible.
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA

OH GOD JUST WAIT LIKE HALF AN HOUR OR WHATEVER
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on August 27, 2009, 05:45:18 PM
The lasers are the easy part.
Guerilla Typhoon and the bean bullet walling crap are much harder....
Guerilla Typhoon is at least fun. I play it most of the time unfocused.
What's the trick to Kogasa's lasers?
Just don't panic. It's like Danmaku Paranoia: Move as few as possible.
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA

OH GOD JUST WAIT LIKE HALF AN HOUR OR WHATEVER
Call me stupid, but I don't get the joke. Is it because the lasers don't land at you most of the time?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alper on August 27, 2009, 05:54:58 PM
Oh okay, so I dodge it.

I thought left and right lasers moved a certain amount clockwise/counterclockwise on every flash and there was an easy tapping trick to it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 27, 2009, 06:11:43 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4555 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4555)

This is what I meant.

GODRAKE AHOY

SPINNING LASERS OF DEATH

THOU HAST BEEN RAPED
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 27, 2009, 07:04:41 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4555 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4555)

This is what I meant.

GODRAKE AHOY

SPINNING LASERS OF DEATH

THOU HAST BEEN RAPED
SPELL BONUS FAILED
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 27, 2009, 07:08:37 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4555 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4555)

This is what I meant.

GODRAKE AHOY

SPINNING LASERS OF DEATH

THOU HAST BEEN RAPED
You are MY SAVIOR
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Ghaleon on August 27, 2009, 07:16:06 PM
I find moving along with the lasers as they slow down really helps...It kinda just gets unconscious reflex based on the last 2 or 3 though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 27, 2009, 09:23:03 PM
Holy shit I made it through the stage portion of UFO stage 3 lunatic without dying. Granted I died about 4 times to Ichirin, but whatever. Baby steps.

More importantly:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4557

Syou on hard mode beaten with no deaths and one bomb. This was also the first time I ever captured spinning lasers.

I also reached an epiphany that allowed me to beat the stage portion of stage 4 without deaths on hard: There are UFOs. They give out resources, and should be collected whenever possible. However, using a resource such as a bomb to pick up UFOs will make you lose resources you already have. These resources can only be restocked by collecting MORE UFOs, which if you use MORE resources to get THOSE, you...will simply run out resources. With this in mind I beat the stage portion of stage 4 with only one bomb while still getting a bunch of UFOs.

Damn it, why can't I play this good ALL the time? :(

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 27, 2009, 09:46:34 PM
Using a bomb to chain together 3 green UFOs and filling it up will give you a net bonus of 1 star fragment. I would personally use the UFOs to clear bullets though. Even better when you can chain 2 together with 1 bomb.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seiryuu on August 28, 2009, 12:02:44 AM
OMFG WAT DID ZUN DO WITH NUE THIS IS ONLY FIRST TIME ON MARISA

This replay says all. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4560)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 28, 2009, 12:13:48 AM
Quoting myself:

As for me:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4554

MoF Normal Reimu B no vertical.

I guess this isn't as impressive as it could be. I'll attempt to do it without dying.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 12:23:04 AM
I... kind of want to rage since I missed my goal, but in reality I'm still pretty amazed with how it went, so yeah. :D

I just attempted PCB Extra no focus, cleared with only a single death on Unilateral Contact (goddamn I hate that card). Bombs were used and abused, as were borders, but I'm still pretty happy with it. Izuna Gongen was pretty tense since I had no bombs or borders for the last phase or two, and ReimuWeAk makes the phases drag on for twice as long as they should do. Also, I get the feeling I'm actually getting worse at Kokkuri-San's Contract, the more often I play it. :V

Anywho, replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4561).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Slaves on August 28, 2009, 12:45:31 AM
beat Shou on Normal finally.

she's really not as bad as you all make it seem, honestly.

most of her attacks are just meant to scare you shitless, but after you dodge a couple of bullets it clears up.

capped her last card on my first time getting to it. :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 28, 2009, 02:28:53 AM
...YES! Almost got through PCB Easy! I don't care if it's not a 1cc, it's pretty close, and definitely WAY better than I've done before.

Here's the replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4563
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 28, 2009, 02:29:56 AM
All of Byakuren's Spell Cards captured at least once. Expect a showcase. Though, since I have a Pharmaceutics practical, I'll let it process during then.

/grammar bash.

EDIT: also, expect delays since I'm now running late for classes, and still haven't hit the upload button.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 03:30:21 AM
Well, I decided to continuespam my way through MoF Lunatic since I'd never done it before. Cue Stage 6, after a few continues all failing before Source of Rains, I get my first taste of VoWG Lunatic at full power and two lives to spare.

I use every single bomb I have and clear the Stage with 0 lives and 0 power.

HOLY SHIT. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 03:44:14 AM
Congrats, again. You'll be putting my dirt-speckled name to shame in no time. :(

On a similar note, I FINALLY beat UFO stage 3 lunatic without continuing! :D Not only that, but I just beat stage 4, unlocking it for lunatic practice!

Now I can see what stage 5 is like on lunatic! :D ... D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on August 28, 2009, 03:44:45 AM
Well.. after that "Tea addict" (no offense) posted a no focus phantasm run, I decided to try it out myself. I'm pretty sure I ended with 3 lives in stock or so- we did almost equally well.
Yea, I really should upload that onto my youtube account, along with my No-deaths run of Yukari, No-deaths run of Mokou, and I should probably try to pacifist Yukari too.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 04:02:41 AM
"Tea addict" (no offense)

None taken. Tea is the drink of the gods! Congrats, too.

Congrats, again. You'll be putting my dirt-speckled name to shame in no time. :(

Pssh nah, clearing a single spell card using two lives and about ten bombs isn't all that impressive. :D Thanks, though.

Now I can see what stage 5 is like on lunatic! :D ... D:

That sounds... fun. I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's probably 'holy christ bomb bomb bomb'-inducing, if Hard is any indication. @_@

Also, having just seen VoWG Lunatic, I went back and had another go at VoWG Hard. I capped it on my first attempt (I've only ever capped this once before after hours of attempts). It's nice to see some tangible improvement over how I used to play; I can now read the walls of bullets fast enough to micrododge through the walls that overlap whereas before I had to pretty much just dodge the main waves and pray.

Can't read them fast enough for Lunatic yet though, obviously. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 04:06:41 AM
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/931/syowned.png)

._.

This was my second try at the stage and first time reaching Syou. I even beat her opener. The rest was hardcore bomb spam, but still... ._.

Now I'm scared shitless at the thought of Byakuren. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 04:08:44 AM
LUNATIC LEGENDARY FLYING SAUCER.

Have fun! :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 04:18:39 AM
Wh...wha? I just game over'd on Byakuren's second non-spell. o_O How the hell do you predict where these lasers are going to be?!

Any help whilst I'm off emasculating myself would be appreciated. I'd rather not ragequit and have to work to get this far again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 04:23:14 AM
Wh...wha? I just game over'd on Byakuren's second non-spell. o_O How the hell do you predict where these lasers are going to be?!

I think they're aimed at you, except that some are delayed; you get a bunch at once and then some more later aimed at you after you dodge away from the first lot. I could be wrong, though. What works for me is to misdirect to one side and move over to the other, then repeat back to the other side. Having said that I have no idea really about the Lunatic version, so hey. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 04:28:12 AM
Just captured Byakuren's first spell card somehow. :O Having no bombs can do wonders for your dodging ability sometimes.

EDIT: WTF I made it to Legendary Flying Saucer. o_O I died quickly on it though.

EDIT: Aaaauuuugh. Got to it again with no lives or bombs. Made it to the last phase. Why is this phase so hard? D:

Also, I'm confirming that the lasers in the second non-spell are NOT aimed. During death invincibility I stood still and the lasers were aimed in my general position, but not at me.

EDIT: Made it AGAIN. I've discovered how to get enough bombs to get me to her third spell card without dying in the stage, but it's not enough. :( Captured her Shinki spell card though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 28, 2009, 05:19:56 AM
Managed to get all the way to Yuyuko's final (not including Resurrection Butterfly) and got finished off while she had about an eight of her health bar left... Kinda rage too, but still, this is a major improvement over... Not long ago, when I barely cleared Easy with ALL continues used >.< And now I'm nearly 1ccing it...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 05:23:35 AM
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5352/ufolunaticunlock.png)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! :D Lunatic unlocked for stage practice! Due to me capturing Superhuman ~ Byakuren Hiziri, I reached Legendary Flying Saucer with a life to spare. I just barely managed this. I don't get why people think Superhuman is hard; I find it to be possibly her easiest spell card.

I don't even care that I got the bad ending, or that the game didn't give me the dignity of the credits. I'm just glad the past 80 minutes haven't been a waste.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on August 28, 2009, 05:26:27 AM
I wish I was good as you. I'd love to have all practice stages unlocked just to play them, but I can't even beat Byrakuren on Hard. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 05:30:31 AM
Meh, don't feel bad about it. Note that I only got this far through timing my bombs correctly and praying not to clip on Byakuren's last spell card.

Now I think it's time to take a well deserved break...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 28, 2009, 05:51:11 AM
Watch my showcase when it comes.

Syou's 2nd non-spell is 50% Pseudo-static (lasers) and 50% randomly aimed bullets. Have fun  :V
Why else do you think it's taking me so long to perfect S5? Personally, I would just bomb-pass it.

Byakuren analysis coming up while video is processing (still working on it). Also, analyzing the non-spells of the one that I haven't covered yet.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6wbOitTHGM
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 28, 2009, 07:03:27 AM
YES!!! I finally did it! PCB Easy 1cc! This means that I've 1cc'd all the Windows games except MoF and PoFV. The former will probably be a nightmare, the latter I don't even plan on playing to be honest...

Anyway, replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4565
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Von Stein on August 28, 2009, 07:32:52 AM
Just to celebrate.

I managed to 1cc SoEW on Normal  with ReimuB.

Which puts my current, unimpressive list on 1cc's to

SoEW
Easy - ReimuA+C
Normal - ReimuB

LLS
Normal-All

Whee.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengeku on August 28, 2009, 08:03:29 AM
YES!!! I finally did it! PCB Easy 1cc! This means that I've 1cc'd all the Windows games except MoF and PoFV. The former will probably be a nightmare, the latter I don't even plan on playing to be honest...

Anyway, replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4565

PCB Easy is harder than MoF Easy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 08:40:47 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4566

Not as impressive as the rest of my achievements tonight, but nonetheless one I've been trying to do for a while: IN stage 2 no bombs or deaths. I failed Mystia's last spell, but whatever, I'm satisfied with this run. Mystia's quite a normal stage 2 boss (even a bit tougher than I gave her credit for for a long time), but she's one of the hardest to perfect due to her second non-spell.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 28, 2009, 10:41:24 AM
Posting to say that I had a practice run where I captured all of Byakuren's Spell Cards, except for the last one where I clipped about 70% into it.

Let's analyze. AP is attack phase, and is much faster than writing non-spell and NS just looks plain weird. Essentially a paste from my notes. Actually, I'm paraphrasing from them because it helps me to remember then, as opposed to just copy-pasting.

UFO Byakuren Analysis (general information, not a summary; Hard / Lunatic)

AP1: ...I trust you all know how to do this. If not then it's a matter of finding the "opening", then moving through it. Not sure if you can move through it with 100% focus though. I'd rather not take the risk. Besides, letting go of focus then reapplying periodically wouldn't hurt, right?

SC1: Really fine positioning that requires you to utilize several skills. One of them is to use diagonal dodging at the bottom of the screen. Another is to read and "avoid" the diamond bullets (hate them more than "animated bullets"). Following the "flow" of the animated bullets for the first few waves certainly helps. Sometimes though, Byakuren will just throw a wall that requires pixel perfect placement. Picture, 2 animated bullets aligned side-by-side, circumferences touching, and try positioning yourself between that.

AP2: Streaming. Even at Lunatic, it's streaming. Stream or be boxed really. You might need to do an unfocus "leap" upon hearing the 5th set of lasers being fired (Lunatic only). Watch for clipdeaths on the aimed waves, watch for boxing yourself, etc. I have a success rate on this of about 80% per wave after practicing on it so much already.

SC2: Micromemorize. Prior to what I previously thought about the butterfly waves being aimed, it's just the other two options making stupid walls against me for staying in the middle too long. I'm calling it static now, and that's a definite. If you need to know when and where to move away from the center, then watch the showcase. If you want me to time it out to demonstrate, then that's fine too. And so is a cat.

AP3: ...is this static? Either way it's a matter of reading lines of bullets. I've found it better (should you start to feel pressured) to move to the right side a bit.

SC3: For Hard, staying at the lower half should suffice. Read lasers, stream stars. Left-Right and stuff. Or be a bit more daring and use vertical only from shotgun-distance. For Lunatic, it's more advisable to be closer, since the stars start firing at a much higher rate, which leads to boxing a lot quicker than you think. "Shotgunning" diverts the stars away much more easily. You could pure-vertical this as well, but you'd have to be pretty close 95% of the time.

AP4: Static with aimed streams of large bullets. Learn it. Also, Byakuren has no collision box, so you could stand on top directly with no consequence. I wouldn't do that at the bottom of the screen though, considering the aimed streams and other things. Inb4 that Japanese guy who had it running at 45 FPS and was able to pull it off and survive.

SC4: Impromptu dodging for the most part when the Spell Card starts to pick up. Attempting to time this thing out won't be worth your time. From 25 seconds, it'll pick up to "full speed" and at 15 seconds, omnidirectional (that is, rings), random bullets will start to be fired.

SC5: Static. Bottom left is safest if you're going to attempt this "defensively". Note that when Byakuren is at the bottom left (and heading to top left) the "charging" effect may interfere with your dodging, so you may want to move a bit closer to the center before this happens.

SC6: Parsing amulets, what more can I say? Avoid getting boxed at the bottom. Using SanaeB's bomb (or any long bomb) may cause you more harm, since it prolongs the attack, which is an attack that intensifies over time.

While I'm at it, if you can control S6's stage portion well enough *coughsanaebcough* then you can chain together quite a number of UFOs. There's also another trick, which is taking 3 blue UFOs, summoning a UFO, destroying it, and using the flashing UFO (along with the other 2 obtained from the waves of Space Invader fairies) to summon an "additional" UFO.

Stage 4 and 6 "Mid-Bosses" (i.e.
Nue
) are static as well.

EDIT-X: typos.

Oh, and I found a MS summary of each character.

It went something like:

Reimu

Attack Power: E
Speed: E
Attack Range: A
Bomb Duration: B
Bomb Power: E
Main Shot: 5-way Spread
Option Shot: Homing (really low damage)


Marisa

Attack Power: A
Speed: C
Attack Range: D
Bomb Duration: D
Bomb Power: A
Main Shot: Converged 6-way (this is basically just columns)
Option Shot: Magic Missiles (high damage; high delay)


Mima

Attack Power: A
Speed: A
Attack Range: E
Bomb Duration: E
Bomb Power: B
Main Shot: 4-way Spread
Option Shot: Energy Balls (fast)


Yuka

Attack Power: D
Speed: E
Attack Range: A
Bomb Duration: A
Bomb Power: B
Main Shot: 5-way Spread
Option Shot: Flower spread (4-way *2)

You can clearly see the imbalance  :V

...goodness. That's a bit too long of a post I think.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 28, 2009, 12:40:17 PM

Also, having just seen VoWG Lunatic, I went back and had another go at VoWG Hard. I capped it on my first attempt (I've only ever capped this once before after hours of attempts).

Congrats on that... I wish I could SURVIVE this card with less than 2 lives...

It's the only thing keeping me from 1CCing the game on hard :(

23 tries and still haven't beaten VoWG
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 02:04:48 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! :D Lunatic unlocked for stage practice! Due to me capturing Superhuman ~ Byakuren Hiziri, I reached Legendary Flying Saucer with a life to spare. I just barely managed this. I don't get why people think Superhuman is hard; I find it to be possibly her easiest spell card.

I don't even care that I got the bad ending, or that the game didn't give me the dignity of the credits. I'm just glad the past 80 minutes haven't been a waste.

Congrats! I doubt I'll manage that for a while yet, Hard was difficult enough for me. :V

YES!!! I finally did it! PCB Easy 1cc! This means that I've 1cc'd all the Windows games except MoF and PoFV. The former will probably be a nightmare, the latter I don't even plan on playing to be honest...

Just to celebrate.

I managed to 1cc SoEW on Normal with ReimuB.

Congrats on the 1cc's! As Zengeku mentioned, PCB is easily one of the hardest Easy modes to 1cc; it's very close to its own Normal mode in difficulty. SoEW 1cc is pretty sweet too, IMO one of the harder Normal 1cc's due to the crazy bullet hitbox sizes, no focus, lack of deathbomb, etc.


Congrats on that... I wish I could SURVIVE this card with less than 2 lives...

It's the only thing keeping me from 1CCing the game on hard :(

23 tries and still haven't beaten VoWG

Maybe try practicing/timing out MoF Normal? I find that the dodging for VoWG Hard (even Lunatic for a little while, though it's faster) stays very similar to that of MoF Normal until you get about 60% through the card. The last 40% is the difficult part, but still... get the first bit down and you can cut down on a lot of bombs/deaths. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 28, 2009, 02:13:18 PM
I've been practicing VoWG on Hard myself.....either it's a clipfest or I can get down to last 40% without bombing and then it's just continuous walling.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 28, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
I've been practicing VoWG on Hard myself.....either it's a clipfest or I can get down to last 40% without bombing and then it's just continuous walling.

THIS

It's like, unless I learn how to pass through the amulets at the bottom of the screen, I'll never beat her.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 28, 2009, 02:48:37 PM
Apparently VoWG requires you to watch a much larger portion of the screen so you can read the gaps :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 03:21:45 PM
Holy crap, what? I just went through VoWG Lunatic dying once and using no bombs. It's not a capture yet, but still... a few months ago I would have been amazed if I had managed that on VoWG Hard. Improvement is nice indeed. :D

Apparently VoWG requires you to watch a much larger portion of the screen so you can read the gaps :V

Wellll, that's one way of doing it. I suck at looking at large areas of the screen, though, so I find it easier to just stick to the bottom under Kanako and move through the individual amulets in a wave if you get walled by overlaps. I'm still not amazing at it, but getting the hang of it bit by bit, and it lets me end the card faster, so yeah. :V

EDIT: Also is it just me or does PCB really, really overuse those arrow bullets? I'm starting to develop a hatred of them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 28, 2009, 03:53:20 PM
ALMOST captured VoWG on Hard. Like 1/10 left and she shits a quadruple wall at my loli.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 28, 2009, 04:04:32 PM
Captured Star Maelstrom. At long last.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 04:44:45 PM
I've come to the conclusion that 1ccing PCB Lunatic is much easier with Reimu A than Reimu B. :V I just tried it now, and I performed pretty terribly, dying with bombs in stock about five times, usually with two or three of them, and I still managed to reach Yuyuko. Having a bomb that actually does something is nice.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 28, 2009, 04:45:59 PM
VoWG Hard is a damage race between you and Kanako. Go in at 5 power, sit in the middle and move as little as possible. When the walls eventually start, she'll have hardly any health left over and you'll win easily.

Oh yeah, and you have to watch everything from Kanako down to have a decent dodge for the walls.

Edit: Just did a test. I actually screwed up and died but even with the lack of DPS, I only had to dodge 3 of *those* walls before Kanako went boom.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 28, 2009, 04:53:47 PM
I've come to the conclusion that 1ccing PCB Lunatic is much easier with Reimu A than Reimu B. :V I just tried it now, and I performed pretty terribly, dying with bombs in stock about five times, usually with two or three of them, and I still managed to reach Yuyuko. Having a bomb that actually does something is nice.
Why not SakuyaA....is she too cheap? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 05:00:17 PM
I've come to the conclusion that 1ccing PCB Lunatic is much easier with Reimu A than Reimu B. :V I just tried it now, and I performed pretty terribly, dying with bombs in stock about five times, usually with two or three of them, and I still managed to reach Yuyuko. Having a bomb that actually does something is nice.
Why not SakuyaA....is she too cheap? :V

Nah, not too cheap, just I actually find it easier with Reimu most of the time. Sure, Sakuya has powerful homing and craploads of bombs, but she has a fatbox, her focus speed is too fast for me to control effectively, and her deathbomb time is much less forgiving than Reimu's so I tend to never actually use most of my bombs. In theory I could probably do better with Sakuya but in practice I usually forget to bomb until it's too late and/or crash into things. I might give it a go with her later, though, who knows, I might not mess up and manage my 1cc. :V

EDIT: Oh, and she sucks at getting borders.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 28, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
Ok what the hell. Just last week I was having so much trouble 1cc'ing UFO Normal. Now I go in fresh and tired and 1cc it like cake, left 3/2. Why was that so easy.



On a serious note, SakuyaA is really just the newbie's best friend. Homing shots means that you go through entire stages without much pattern recognition at all and you don't have to linger underneath the enemy. Her crap damage output means that you have to stay on some cards for longer than you should if you were playing another character, even MarisaB. Four bombs. This is four. Bombs. You can go through the entire 6 stages just bombspamming when needed and get a 1cc easily. This is why people don't like her. She can beat stuff, but it really won't prepare you for Hard or Lunatic. Her focus speed is abnormally fast. If you so much as tap during a thick pattern you will die. You can't maneuver very well at all. As in, it's pretty much impossible to use her on Lunatic without extraordinary difficulty. She also has the biggest hitbox of the three, coupled with the speed it's loldeth.

beetn
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 28, 2009, 05:15:31 PM
Quote
her focus speed is too fast for me to control effectively
WAIT
You perfect EoSD Extra with MarisaA and now Sakuya is too fast? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Heartbeam on August 28, 2009, 05:15:37 PM
biggest hitbox

I don't mean to doubt you because I myself haven't looked into it beyond standard runs, but have you tested and verified this?

I agree with the use of homing shots for a 1cc attempt if you don't know a single thing about the workings of the stage, otherwise I'd take Reimu B over A.  Just like SA's Marisa B it only takes a little planning for the bomb to do wonders.  A properly timed bomb on Benevolent Orl?ans Dolls will take out two separate waves and place you in the clear to shotgun Alice for the next several seconds, more than enough to finish the spell.  I really don't think boss movements are such an issue in PCB, and Reimu A's firepower is terribly astounding.  And her bomb.  It does *something*, and that's all it does.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on August 28, 2009, 05:22:05 PM
I've come to the conclusion that 1ccing PCB Lunatic is much easier with Reimu A than Reimu B. :V I just tried it now, and I performed pretty terribly, dying with bombs in stock about five times, usually with two or three of them, and I still managed to reach Yuyuko. Having a bomb that actually does something is nice.

Protip:  If you want to offensively bomb with ReimuB, get under the enemy and use an unfocused bomb , and shoot her unfocused close up while doing so.  It's usually enough to end most attacks before they become a problem.

But yeah, homing is really not that good in PCB, since boss movement is always either static or controllable (based on your position).  This means that with practice the forward fire characters can do everything the homing characters can do but better.  The only things homing really helps with are stages 3 and 6, and those can be cheesed with a well-placed bomb.

Overall, the three best characters in PCB are definitely SakuyaB, ReimuB, and MarisaA.  If you're going for high level play I'd recommend picking one of them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 05:45:49 PM
Quote
her focus speed is too fast for me to control effectively
WAIT
You perfect EoSD Extra with MarisaA and now Sakuya is too fast? :V

Sakuya is faster than Marisa when focused, and also PCB Lunatic has much, much denser bullet patterns than EoSD Extra. The difficulty in EoSD Extra is not so much dense walls of bullets so much as that shit flies at you really fast from different angles, like Catadioptric or QED. :V

Having said that though, I just attempted PCB Lunatic with Sakuya A, and despite wasting something like fifteen-twenty bombs since I didn't deathbomb in time, I still managed to reach Yuyuko's third spell card before getting a game over.

Hmm. Still undecided which one out of Reimu A, Reimu B or Sakuya A to keep attempting with. In all honesty usually I use none of those three and stick with Marisa A, but I don't think I'm quite good enough yet to net a Lunatic 1cc with only two bombs per life.

EDIT: I decided I may as well give it a try with Marisa A, so I did that. I lost lots of bombs to not deathbombing, I reached Yuyuko, and then I game over'd.

...Goddamnit, am I going to have to go through this with every shot type before I actually get anywhere? <_<

EDIT, again: I just tried with Sakuya B, and failed at midboss Youmu after dying with four bombs in stock four times in a row. I am not going to try this with Marisa B. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on August 28, 2009, 07:53:14 PM
HUZZAH! After around a bajillion restarts (more like 10) due to clip-deaths during the stage, I managed to beat Yukari without shooting! Judging from my performance (I had 3 lives left when I beat her) I could probably remain pacifist for the entire stage and do it!

Thus, I have beaten Phantasm normally about 150 times, I have restarted about 1200 times, I've beaten Yukari without dying 3 times, and I beat her without shooting once.

Maybe I should try to beat the entire stage without shooting-it's certainly possible....
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 07:59:27 PM
HUZZAH! After around a bajillion restarts (more like 10) due to clip-deaths during the stage, I managed to beat Yukari without shooting! Judging from my performance (I had 3 lives left when I beat her) I could probably remain pacifist for the entire stage and do it!

Thus, I have beaten Phantasm normally about 150 times, I have restarted about 1200 times, I've beaten Yukari without dying 3 times, and I beat her without shooting once.

Maybe I should try to beat the entire stage without shooting-it's certainly possible....

Congrats! That's pretty impressive. Huh, maybe I should try one at some point... they sound pretty fun. Need to get that PCB Lunatic 1cc first, though. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 28, 2009, 08:23:47 PM
...YES!!!!!!!! I just 1cc'd MoF... With four lives left! Stage 4 no deaths, captured everything of Aya's, did awesome on stage 5... Used tons of bombs against Kanako <.< >.> Still, pretty awesome. Take that Kanako! Go to hell Kanako's final spell! <.<;

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4575
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 09:32:23 PM
...YES!!!!!!!! I just 1cc'd MoF... With four lives left! Stage 4 no deaths, captured everything of Aya's, did awesome on stage 5... Used tons of bombs against Kanako <.< >.> Still, pretty awesome. Take that Kanako! Go to hell Kanako's final spell! <.<;

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4575

Congrats!

And, finally, after much arsing around with different shot types, I managed to 1cc PCB Lunatic (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4577), HELL YEAHHH. It's not a very impressive clear, mind; I panic bombed a hell of a lot of different cards, particularly Resurrection Butterfly 80% which I am useless at, but I still finished 1/3, so I'm still pleased with it. That makes two Lunatics down, and, err... seven to go. ;_;

Those can wait, though - next on my list is capping VoWG Lunatic. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 28, 2009, 09:35:33 PM
Which shot type? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 09:38:32 PM
Congrats, though due to my hatred of Sakuya A and how it takes very little skill to 1cc with her I hope you try again with another shot type someday.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 28, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
Which shot type? :V

Sakuya A. ;_;

Congrats, though due to my hatred of Sakuya A and how it takes very little skill to 1cc with her I hope you try again with another shot type someday.

I probably will, to be honest... watching the replay it's pretty unimpressive. Considering how close I got with Reimu A and B, I'll probably try again with one of those. :V

Also, err, is it just me, or are the Prismrivers' first two non-cards usually their most difficult attacks? They last so long... @_@

EDIT: Okay okay I just watched most of the replay and I'm not really happy with it any more, far too much bomb spam going on. PCB Lunatic with Reimu B is back on the top of the list.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on August 28, 2009, 10:08:21 PM
Which shot type? :V

Sakuya A. ;_;

Congrats, though due to my hatred of Sakuya A and how it takes very little skill to 1cc with her I hope you try again with another shot type someday.

I probably will, to be honest... watching the replay it's pretty unimpressive. Considering how close I got with Reimu A and B, I'll probably try again with one of those. :V

Also, err, is it just me, or are the Prismrivers' first two non-cards usually their most difficult attacks? They last so long... @_@

EDIT: Okay okay I just watched most of the replay and I'm not really happy with it any more, far too much bomb spam going on. PCB Lunatic with Reimu B is back on the top of the list.

Playing as Reimu-B, the only parts that I have trouble with in the Prismiver battle are the first 2 non-cards and their final spellcard. The first is dodge-able every now and then, but the 2nd one always makes me use a bomb! Same goes with their final spellcard-it's so random!

By the way, I'm willing to bet money that you could 1cc lunatic as Reimu-B if you were more aggressive with the point of collection. You could have 400 or so more point items that run- 2 more lives.
Also, before you go and try to 1cc lunatic as Reimu, watch Bjw's perfect stage 5 run and learn how to misdirect Youmu's noncards.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 28, 2009, 10:21:10 PM
SA Extra, reached "Philosophy of a Hated Person"

I'm not too far from a clear. I died on her first spell because I had forgotten what to do, but for once I didn't completely suck at Super Ego and Release of the ID.

The one I had the most trouble with is Genetics of the Subcounscious. It's just so long, but at least now I kinda know how to do it
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 28, 2009, 10:34:12 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4578

A replay for anyone who wants to see what lunatic Byakuren looks like. Other than me by chance capturing curvy lasers for the first time, this was pretty lackluster. It demonstrates well how hard Byakuren's second spell card becomes on lunatic though. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 28, 2009, 10:40:03 PM
Even with my lives haxed to constantly set at max, Lunatic Byakuren still scares me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 28, 2009, 11:20:21 PM
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/th00111.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=267&u=12803292)
One of the many effects of summoning a UFO during a Spell Card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Helix ⑨ on August 28, 2009, 11:29:52 PM
I did it! finally! after weeeeeeeks of practice, I finally took that bitch down.
(http://i31.tinypic.com/j5hx20.jpg)
The stage itself didn't go well at all, think I got hit somewhere and ofcourse on the death fairy. mid boss went ok 2 out of 3 captured. Did pretty good on the 2nd half of the last boss fight.


Also my first score over a billion :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 12:01:35 AM
I did it! finally! after weeeeeeeks of practice, I finally took that bitch down.

The stage itself didn't go well at all, think I got hit somewhere and ofcourse on the death fairy. mid boss went ok 2 out of 3 captured. Did pretty good on the 2nd half of the last boss fight.

Also my first score over a billion :P

Congrats on the Extra clear! And nice work on the score... I don't think I've ever actually reached a billion, hehe.

By the way, I'm willing to bet money that you could 1cc lunatic as Reimu-B if you were more aggressive with the point of collection. You could have 400 or so more point items that run- 2 more lives.
Also, before you go and try to 1cc lunatic as Reimu, watch Bjw's perfect stage 5 run and learn how to misdirect Youmu's noncards.

Yeah, I really need to get better at point collection... most of the time I don't even reach 800 points. And I'll check out that vid, but erm... too late. :P

Reimu B PCB Lunatic 1cc'd! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4579) Thank God that's over. I am much more pleased with this run than I was with the Sakuya A run, I had to work much harder. I finished at 1/0 rather than 1/3 this time but I actually died less, since I didn't hit 800 points. I managed to not die at all until Lily White, which was is the furthest I've ever gotten without dying, and I also got my first captures of the evil, evil cards that are Mortality -Demon World- and Sumizome Perfect Blossom -Bloom-. Still had to use three bombs at Resurrection Butterfly, but all things considered it's far better than my previous run. Pretty proud of this one. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 29, 2009, 12:04:45 AM
Holy crap I captured Satori's Double Death Butterfly. This is like the third time I've done this in over 70 playthroughs. You know, I've come to appreciate SA more ever since my computer hasn't slowed it down (Orin is a LOT easier when her micrododging isn't made harder by choppy gameplay and random speed changes), but I still hate SA stage 4 and everything it stands for.

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Congrats on the Extra clear! And nice work on the score... I don't think I've ever actually reached a billion, hehe.

Wut. Even I've reached 1.5 billion, and I'm the one who scores so badly my lunatic scores are lower than a normal player's normal playthroughs.

And congrats again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 12:14:27 AM
Thanks, and congrats on the DDB capture. It was pretty hellish on Hard, I can't imagine the Lunatic version. Also, I just realised that after that run, the only cards I haven't capped in PCB are two Prismriver cards, two Youmu cards and Resurrection Butterfly 80%... I think capping those might be another new goal for me.

And about the scoring, firstly, I haven't done Lunatic runs of most of the games yet, and secondly I have never, ever even attempted to play for score, for some reason. So, what did you reach 1.5 billion on if you're as bad at scoring as you say you are? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 29, 2009, 12:20:09 AM
The following is what I do on IN extra:

Collect point items whenever I have an opportunity (which is all the time)

Capture as many spell cards as I can.

That's it. That's all you need to do to pass a billion in extra.

As for the main game, it's not impossible to pass a billion in stage 6 alone if you capture enough spell cards.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 29, 2009, 12:21:32 AM
Actually, DDBB Lunatic is easier than Hard because of the hyperwhatever effect.

Kefit get over here I can't remember the name.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 12:27:05 AM
The following is what I do on IN extra:

Collect point items whenever I have an opportunity (which is all the time)

Capture as many spell cards as I can.

That's it. That's all you need to do to pass a billion in extra.

As for the main game, it's not impossible to pass a billion in stage 6 alone if you capture enough spell cards.

...Huh. Wait a minute. *launches IN*

Oh.

...Okay so it turns out I've passed a billion with Ghost team on normal, Yukari solo on normal, Border team on hard, and three seperate teams for Extra. So, uh, ignore what I said earlier, I have the memory span of a mentally handicapped goldfish, I guess. :V

I've still never reached 1.5 billion, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 29, 2009, 12:58:41 AM
Well, I've only reached 1.5 billion in 2 runs out of MANY attempts.

Also, I finally managed Byakuren's second non-spell. It turns out it IS just that: Streaming pseudo-aimed lasers and praying that you dodge the bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 29, 2009, 01:20:04 AM
1 billion is very easy to get in IN. I mean, I got over 1 billion with Remilia Solo on Easy, where reaching the time threshold is almost impossible on some levels.

I got 1,7 billion with Marisa Solo recently (on easy). I had managed to capture all of Kaguya's Last Spells. If you don't count easy, I've got 1,51 billion on Normal with Border Team.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Tarquinius on August 29, 2009, 01:21:53 AM
I just did abnormally well against normal difficulty Shou, who I've been having problems with. Two deaths (one stupid death on her first card, one clipdeath on her last card) and one bomb (I hate her damn Vajra card).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 29, 2009, 01:43:36 AM
Actually, what is so bad about SakuyaA?

Some people tell me that SakuyaB is much better, some that SakuyaA is cheap.....

ReimuB isn't bad, but I like my bombs better when they do damage. :)

Does she just suck or is SakuyaA pig bottom like MarisaBugged?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 01:56:29 AM
Actually, what is so bad about SakuyaA?

Some people tell me that SakuyaB is much better, some that SakuyaA is cheap.....

ReimuB isn't bad, but I like my bombs better when they do damage. :)

Does she just suck or is SakuyaA pig bottom like MarisaBugged?

I wouldn't call her broken or anything like MarisaBugged, but her two main advantages are that she has homing which is actually powerful, and that she has four bombs per life, on top of which the bombs do can do pretty high damage to bosses, so you can essentially bomb-spam through a lot of the more difficult attacks in the game, which is why some people consider her cheap. Definitely the easiest to get a 1cc with... a 1cc with her is generally considered less skillful than with a shot type like Reimu B or Marisa A, which make you work for your 1cc.

SakuyaB's shot is a lot more powerful than SakuyaA if you know how to aim it properly, but it takes more skill to use. SakuyaB's bomb... actually I'm not really sure at all how you're supposed to use it, to be honest. From the few times I have used SakuyaB, I'm guessing the idea is that you use it defensively to clear out bullets and get time to shotgun enemies while it lasts (which is a really long time). I could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 29, 2009, 02:01:18 AM
get time to shotgun enemies while it lasts (which is a really long time).
No, the reduction in damage is incredibly strong, making this point moot. Basically, all this bomb has is defensive uses. Hey, it works for me :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?q on August 29, 2009, 02:18:53 AM
SakuyaB is designed for defensive bomb spam.
I don't remember if her power is any good or not, but at least it's better than SakuyA's if memory serves.
Her bombs mostly look pretty and allow you to pseudo-ubergraze.

SakuyA takes the element of "aiming" out of the game (hits all stage enemies unfocused, locks onto bosses focused) and gives you four decentish bombs per life entirely in exchange for meh damage and a horrible Cherry rate.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on August 29, 2009, 02:27:59 AM
The following is what I do on IN extra:

Collect point items whenever I have an opportunity (which is all the time)

Capture as many spell cards as I can.

That's it. That's all you need to do to pass a billion in extra.

As for the main game, it's not impossible to pass a billion in stage 6 alone if you capture enough spell cards.

I cannot believe some people have trouble getting a billion on Imperishable Night's extra. My no-deaths clears net me a score of 1.84billion...

Anyway- after getting raped by MoF on lunatic... I have concluded that PCB is:
A: The easiest Touhou game.
B: The second easiest Touhou game-easiest being MoF.
C: I am just not doing something right....
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 03:39:23 AM
Finally managed to cap Hell God Sword, as well as Worldly Attachment Lunatic. That's all Youmu cards capped, which just leaves the two Prismriver cards and Resurrection Butterfly. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Von Stein on August 29, 2009, 04:23:24 AM
My personal list of 1cc's grows.

SoEW
Easy - Reimu A and B
Normal - Reimu B

PoDD
Easy - All (Forgot about those the last time. ^_^;; But it is only easy so...)

LLS
Normal - All

IN
Normal - Youmu solo


----------

Note to self...I hate familiars...

And congrats to all the people having *actual* accomplishments here. ^_^;;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 29, 2009, 06:47:49 AM
Wow. In this random play of PCB stage 6, I "captured" the ultimate bullet spam (first time without any slowdown to boot), and captured everything after Butterfly Delusion, meaning I beat the two hardest attacks in the stage at once (fairy spam and Resurrection Butterfly). Now if only I didn't completely screw up and die on each of Yuyuko's first three spell cards I'd have saved the replay. :P

Also, I managed to defeat lunatic Syou with only one death, due to me capturing her first two spell cards.

And I realized why lunatic Byakuren is SO hard:

4 non-spells

6 spell cards

One of these non-spells are trivial, and another isn't that difficult (her third). None of her spell cards are trivial (though I suppose if I can learn the correct movements Magical Butterfly may very well become trivial someday), one of these 6 is bomb resistant, and another is bomb immune. The bomb resistant one can still be reasonably easily beaten with one bomb. Her last spell card by nature has deaths sneak up on you due to how hard it is to read the openings and judge if you can make an opening.

So assuming you trivialize those two non-spells, use only one bomb on her fifth spell card, and for the sake of convenience ignoring her final spell card, you have 7 attacks that are not trivial and can easily kill you. Each life has two bombs. This is 3 lives this boss will likely choke from you, and that's not factoring in her clip-death happy final spell card, whose last phase makes VoWG look like openings are as plentiful as bullets and can kill you any number of times.

So tl;dr: ARGH.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hyper Dunk on August 29, 2009, 06:58:18 AM
Just 1cc'd PoFV on lunatic with Aya. Perhaps I should move to Extra now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on August 29, 2009, 07:08:32 AM
* 1cc'd SA on Easy in his very first run of the full game

Wait, what?

...6 lives remaining. Oh, it must've been the game giving out too many lives.


PoDD - 1cc Easy
LLS - 2cc Easy (oh god, better change this soon)
MS - 2cc Easy 
TEoSD - 3cc Normal
PCB - 2cc Easy
PoFV - 1cc Easy
MoF - 1cc Easy
SA - 1cc Easy
UFO - 1cc Easy
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Helix ⑨ on August 29, 2009, 09:27:40 AM
Think I'm gonna try to 1cc IN on lunatic next then, and get imba-many points! Then PCB extra after that. But yeah, getting alot of points in extra is easy, enemies drop shitloads of point items and your graze count will be insane no matter how bad you are.

Ooh and I just capture appolo 13 (hard) and unlocked Heaven Spider's Butterfly-capturing web. Now THAT is a cool spell!
And w00t just captured appolo 13 on lunatic aswell during a full run, I thought it was supposed to be but hard
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 29, 2009, 01:35:11 PM
Ok, so since SakuyaA is cheap and requires no skill, I've tried Extra and Phantasm with ReimuB.....
Extra - 2 lives left.
Phantasm.......finished with 4 lives, better than any SakuyaA run I've had :V

4 misses, 2 of these in stage.....never really bothered to learn the stage patterns.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 29, 2009, 05:34:16 PM
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/th00111.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=267&u=12803292)
One of the many effects of summoning a UFO during a Spell Card.

What are we supposed to be looking at? The fact that you're outside the lasers?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 29, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
I love how sanae looks when she's flying... makes me want to desperately press left/right all the damn time >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 07:15:51 PM
I just capped Pseudo Stradivarius, which makes all Prismriver cards capped and brings me to 140/141. That just leaves Resurrection Butterfly 80%... @_@

EDIT: Huh, just cleared it only being hit once. Maybe this won't take as long as I thought. Then again, I said that about VoWG Lunatic. Also lol, on that run I capped all five of Yuyuko's first five cards and I STILL failed everything else badly enough to finish at 2/3.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 29, 2009, 07:47:40 PM
I just capped Pseudo Stradivarius, which makes all Prismriver cards capped and brings me to 140/141. That just leaves Resurrection Butterfly 80%... @_@

Do what I did: Politely ask Yuyuko if she could please let you capture her spell card once. Worked for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 08:11:40 PM
Do what I did: Politely ask Yuyuko if she could please let you capture her spell card once. Worked for me.

Huh, well, I'll give it try, although I fully expect her answer to be something along the lines of 'lol, no'. Also what the hell I just got hit by the very first wave of red butterflies and then I dodged the whole rest of the card. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 29, 2009, 09:00:03 PM
Finally 1cc'd EoSD Normal.

Oh well... Only SA and UFO to go on Normal.

Though I bet I'll 1cc MoF Hard before these two.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 29, 2009, 10:35:04 PM
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/firestormiv/kanakoexploding.jpg)

MoF Hard Cleared! Too bad Stage 4 desynched.

VoGW went so well. After 4 bombs, I dodged between amulets at the bottom of the screen about 5 times in a row, with at least one of those only by sheer luck (I lost track of my sprite in a wall of amulets).

That means : I DIDN'T DIE TO VOGW

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4591)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
Finally 1cc'd EoSD Normal.

Congrats. Remi's final card is pretty tough, eh?

I DIDN'T DIE TO VOGW

That's impressive. I don't think I've ever cleared Virtue of Gind Wod.

But in all seriousness, congrats! :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 29, 2009, 10:45:19 PM
Too bad Stage 4 desynched.
This is normal. To avert the issue, play it from S3 (speed it up if you want to skip) and it'll run just fine.

Yeah, you expected me to say
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UFO 1cc Lunatic
didn't you?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 29, 2009, 11:02:09 PM
Too bad Stage 4 desynched.
This is normal. To avert the issue, play it from S3 (speed it up if you want to skip) and it'll run just fine.

Ah right. Now I MIGHT be able to record it, if the game decides not to lag during the recording.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 29, 2009, 11:19:13 PM
HELL YEAHHH RESURRECTION BUTTERFLY 80% CAPTURED!

Finally, phew. And that brings me to 141/141 PCB spell cards captured. Booyah. :D

Now for something less stressful, like, err, VoWG Lunatic. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 29, 2009, 11:41:19 PM
Practicing for now, 1cc can come later. Besides, it's more impressive if I can capture more in a run.

UFO Lunatic Stage 2 NDNB (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4592)

Actually, I'm finding Kogasa rather fun now. Starting to hate Nazrin, and Ichirin can go die in a fire.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 29, 2009, 11:55:50 PM
I reached Fujiyama Volcano.
I captured Xu Fu's.
I CAPTURED FLYING PHOENIX.
But I did horribly at Flaw of Forgiving Shrine, Honest Man's Death and Phoenix Tail.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 12:49:50 AM
Wellll, it's not quite VoWG, but I managed to get my first capture of Source of Rains Lunatic. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 30, 2009, 12:54:05 AM
Wellll, it's not quite VoWG, but I managed to get my first capture of Source of Rains Lunatic. :V
I hate that card.  Capped it, but it's still stupid and I still hate it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 30, 2009, 01:04:37 AM
How the hell are you supposed to damage Kanako anyways?
I always enter with 1-2 power at most, I've managed to survive until 20 seconds left and then clipped something.....I never do enough damage :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 01:08:53 AM
How the hell are you supposed to damage Kanako anyways?
I always enter with 1-2 power at most, I've managed to survive until 20 seconds left and then clipped something.....I never do enough damage :V

You damage her excruciatingly slowly while you fly backwards and forwards across the screen really fast. Which is why, as theshim says, it's a stupid asshole of a spell card. :V

EDIT: Kickass. After having so many attempts at Stage 6 Lunatic, I went and had another try at Stage 6 Hard (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4594). It wasn't quite a perfect run, but no deaths and I captured all five spell cards, so that's pretty cool. Hm... I wonder if I could time out VoWG hard...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 30, 2009, 01:11:07 AM
It's easy(in concept), but it's stupid too, so you'll die more then you should by really awkward walls or just clipdeath. I just bomb it anyways, as it lets me 4OptionMarisaC VoWG for massive damage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 30, 2009, 01:26:04 AM
How the hell are you supposed to damage Kanako anyways?
I always enter with 1-2 power at most, I've managed to survive until 20 seconds left and then clipped something.....I never do enough damage :V

You damage her excruciatingly slowly while you fly backwards and forwards across the screen really fast. Which is why, as theshim says, it's a stupid asshole of a spell card. :V

I dodged her crap for 70 seconds and she still had like 1/3 life.....
 :-\
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 30, 2009, 01:29:13 AM
Actually, if you do it "right", then it shouldn't take that long at all. Though, that does come with greater risks.

Also, I feel that the waves for "VoWG" Lunatic have slowed down considerably for me, hence the random capture after only 1 try today  :V

To get you started, you start at the middle, and a little bit to the right. Move right slowly, making sure that the Enemy marker's center is to your left (i.e. you are still on the right side of it. Once you pass the 2nd stream on the (extreme) side, you make the circle, and repeat, remembering to watch for the circular waves of triangular bullets.

Figured out more of Syou's 1st SC. It's not 100% static, but more like... 70-80%. The other %age is aimed.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 01:43:26 AM
Huh, cool. I just managed to time out VoWG Hard down to 64 seconds without getting hit. Having said that I died about four times during that last minute, but still. I might actually be able to do this.

EDIT: Aaaaand then going back to the game I forget to save the replay. Goddamnit.

EDIT again: Just had another single death on VoWG Lunatic. I think I'm getting the hang of all the crazy dodges between amulets... a capture may come soon. :V

Also, is it just me or is the difficulty for Kanako's second non-card completely messed up? It seems that Lunatic < Hard < Normal, at least for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 30, 2009, 02:04:08 AM
Unless I clip it, it's simple streaming on Hard.....but Unremembered Crop can go die :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 02:09:15 AM
Unless I clip it, it's simple streaming on Hard.....but Unremembered Crop can go die :V

Well yeah, but it's even simpler streaming on Lunatic. On Hard you at least have to move around a bit, I mean I clip that every so often too, but Lunatic is just a simple, short 'right, left, right left' dodge. I don't think I've actually ever messed up the Lunatic version. On Normal I usually end up needing to move backwards and forwards across almost the whole length of the screen. Who knows, maybe I'm just doing it wrong, but it seems strange that a tactic that works for Lunatic wouldn't work on Normal. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 30, 2009, 02:11:51 AM
For Hard, all you need to do is move up a bit, problem solved. Normal's you can take by "rhythmic" movements (i.e. counting before you swap directions).

Still, Lunatic < Hard < Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 03:32:10 AM
OH YES
OHHH YES
FINALLY

Oh man that felt awesome that is the best spell card ever. VoWG Lunatic captured! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4595)

Most of the run wasn't amazing; my deaths were one to Divine Crop and two to that asshole of a fourth non-card, but that doesn't matter because I captured VoWG Lunatic. :D

Man, Resurrection Butterfly 80% and VoWG Lunatic on the same day, that's kickass. But then again, hours and hours of playing for only two spell cards. Huh. :V I wonder what I should do next... I don't really feel like trying to get another 1cc yet. That'll be tomorrow, though, I'm pretty drained after that and it's way too late to be starting anything else now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 30, 2009, 03:43:22 AM
OH YES
OHHH YES
FINALLY

Oh man that felt awesome that is the best spell card ever. VoWG Lunatic captured! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4595)

Most of the run wasn't amazing; my deaths were one to Divine Crop and two to that asshole of a fourth non-card, but that doesn't matter because I captured VoWG Lunatic. :D

Man, Resurrection Butterfly 80% and VoWG Lunatic on the same day, that's kickass. But then again, hours and hours of playing for only two spell cards. Huh. :V I wonder what I should do next... I don't really feel like trying to get another 1cc yet. That'll be tomorrow, though, I'm pretty drained after that and it's way too late to be starting anything else now.
ASDFASDFASDFGHDFIGSDJFGNHIFGMRERIMEIKNKGBDM



good job
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 30, 2009, 04:46:25 AM
Just made it through UFO lunatic stage 4's stage portion without dying. Never mind how many deaths I had against Murasa. Her third non-spell is absolutely ridiculous, even if it is static. It's even worse than Tewi's static first phase that is still concentrated death. I did manage to capture her third spell card though.

Also, Unzan's brofists need the help of someone to just show its hitbox so we can finally figure out how the god damn thing is supposed to look. I clip the top of the fist all the time on Ichirin's second spell card, yet this practice run in hard (as I thought, it's MUCH easier after playing lunatic as much as I have) I was entirely inside one of the brofist's knuckles. o_O

Also, confirming that midboss Nue's attacks aren't static. Maybe instead they're aimed at your position...








EDIT: I'm proving to myself more and more that UFO lunatic is possible. I just managed UFO stage 5 lunatic's stage portion without dying. Then I died three times on Syou, but anywaaaaay. Basically, this game is EoSD on a level up in difficulty: Random, difficult yet doable stages, and extremely hard bosses that make all the stages pale in comparison.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 30, 2009, 07:35:33 AM
So, I remembered that I never played PCB with Reimu. Ok, I say to myself, let's try.
And I 1cc the fucker like it was nothing.
Notably, I capture all of Youmu's Spellcards without problem.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 30, 2009, 08:10:18 AM
Just managed a run of Byakuren where I made it to her fourth non-spell before dying on lunatic. I seem to have finally gotten down her second non-spell, but it's still tough. Also I didn't upload the replay because I still died 3 times on Legendary Flying Object. >_>

Speaking of which, first try on hard Byakuren in a while, I captured LFO hard. How predictable.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Iryan on August 30, 2009, 10:47:33 AM
Got to stage 14 of thrtp, hell route, on lunatic before the first continue. Well, Kikuri would've wiped the floor with me anyways.  :V

I also beat stage 18 without bombing or dieing. Success!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on August 30, 2009, 11:07:47 AM
Captured Nue's last card on my second extra clear.

I still don't see how people can find Nightmare in (Kyoto) fun. It's a ****ing nightmare for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 30, 2009, 01:24:54 PM
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/firestormiv/kanakoexploding.jpg)

MoF Hard Cleared! Too bad Stage 4 desynched.

VoGW went so well. After 4 bombs, I dodged between amulets at the bottom of the screen about 5 times in a row, with at least one of those only by sheer luck (I lost track of my sprite in a wall of amulets).

That means : I DIDN'T DIE TO VOGW

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4591)

Heeeey congratulations!

I got to VoWG 4 times yesterday and still didn't manage to beat her =(
I even got to it once with TWO LIVES and 4.0 =(

I guess I just suck too much at it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 01:53:04 PM
I got to VoWG 4 times yesterday and still didn't manage to beat her =(
I even got to it once with TWO LIVES and 4.0 =(

I guess I just suck too much at it.

Have you tried just practicing that stage in stage practice repeatedly? Doing that without the whole rest of the game beforehand might help you to get the hang of it, understand how it works, learn to predict where the waves will come from, etc. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 30, 2009, 01:59:02 PM
Yes I have... I've beaten Kanako with two lives while practicing...

But I get really anxious when I'm playing for real :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 02:04:22 PM
Yes I have... I've beaten Kanako with two lives while practicing...

But I get really anxious when I'm playing for real :P

Ah, fair enough, I know the feeling... tbh I'll probably be in the same situation when I try and 1cc Lunatic. Highly doubt I'll even come close to a capture. Still... practice does help, a lot. Have you tried going for a capture of it yet? That might help you be more confident about it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 30, 2009, 02:32:16 PM
I'm at VoWG right now..

2 lives 3.5 power... but im shaking far too much to even touch the game...

If i make it, I'll clear with over 400 million score, which is pretty good for a first 1cc...

Man I'll go drink some water and come back later =P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 02:38:03 PM
I'm at VoWG right now..

2 lives 3.5 power... but im shaking far too much to even touch the game...

If i make it, I'll clear with over 400 million score, which is pretty good for a first 1cc...

Man I'll go drink some water and come back later =P

Good luck. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 30, 2009, 02:43:35 PM
Died as usual: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4604

This was the hardest VoWG I've faced so far...

Whatever :/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 03:17:26 PM
Died as usual: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4604

This was the hardest VoWG I've faced so far...

Whatever :/

Watching your replay, I have a few tips. Firstly, you died on the stage; you might as well bomb spam through the stage section, you get a ton of power-ups from all the enemies so you're unlikely to get low on power. Very nice score, by the way, I've never come close to that. Secondly, there's a much easier way of beating Kanako's 2nd non-card; just move up a bit, and then stream in very small increments right, left, right, left. The fourth non-card, you might as well bomb, it's pretty risky to try and whittle down its health and you want as many lives as possible for VoWG.

Now, for VoWG, from what I can see most of your problems with the card aren't to do with finding the gaps, you can do that well enough; the reason you keep needing to bomb is that you seem very unwilling to move unfocused and because of that you never manage to get around the waves quickly enough. An idea you might want to try out is to practice VoWG in stage practice without using focus at all so you get a feel for how to do the quick dodges. I'll try and make a replay demonstrating all the stuff I mentioned, it should explain much better than me just telling you.

Also, have you considered switching to Reimu B? She'd end VoWG (and everything else) much faster. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 30, 2009, 03:26:38 PM
I have, but playing with any character other than ReimuA makes the game completely different.

If you see the replay through the other stages, i depend completely on the homming shots to do most of my work while I'm busy dodging and collecting items not to get my faith mark down.

That death was really unnecessary... :(

I dont usually have trouble with the 4th non-card, but going with anything less than 4.0 makes it too long... I died because I didn't move at all.. That was weird.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on August 30, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
Fairly consistently 1ccing PCB Hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 04:25:49 PM
I'll try and make a replay demonstrating all the stuff I mentioned, it should explain much better than me just telling you.

Replay done. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4606) :V Done with Reimu A, also my first time getting a perfect battle against Kanako Hard. Used a bomb during the stage, but still.

Edit to avoid double post: I did a random very very bad (i.e. three continues and still failed) Lunatic run of IN to unlock some more cards for spell practice, and so:
Genealogy of the Sky-Born: 1/2
Game of Rising: 1/3
Omoikane's Brain: 1/3
Apollo 13: 1/7

And then... Earth in a Pot: 1/59.

Is there any good method for beating that or is it really just the clusterfuck that it looks like? I only managed to beat it by repeatedly destroying a load of familiars on each wave and getting lucky.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Lybydose on August 30, 2009, 08:43:58 PM
And then... Earth in a Pot: 1/59.

Is there any good method for beating that or is it really just the clusterfuck that it looks like? I only managed to beat it by repeatedly destroying a load of familiars on each wave and getting lucky.

Really easy if you're using Magic Team, Nether Team, Youmu solo, or Marisa solo.  Just kill lots of familiars on one side to give yourself a huge area to move into.  I have far more trouble with Omoikane's Brain
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 30, 2009, 09:04:51 PM
Well...that was disappointing.

PCB Hard 1cc, including a capture of Resurrection Butterfly!  Vsync patch = magic.  PCB is disturbingly easy with it (at least on Hard, yeah, yeah, go play Lunatic, I can still capture Asura Sword and Ghost Clifford with the input lag so go away Donut, nobody likes you).

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4609), if anyone cares.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 30, 2009, 09:14:46 PM
Quote
"Earth in a Pot"
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4610
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hyper Dunk on August 30, 2009, 09:15:28 PM
Beat Suwako's extra stage. Wasn't that great of of run, since I haven't been past Frog Is Eaten by Snake due to the Croak, before this. But I'll work on making it better later.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on August 30, 2009, 09:20:51 PM
Died as usual: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4604

This was the hardest VoWG I've faced so far...

Whatever :/

You did quite a bit better than me on non-VoWG Kanako. I'll give you a few pointers, as I need to bombspam all the time too.

1- Try not to bomb before the waves start overlapping, as the first few waves are easy. By the time I used my first bomb, I had done more damage than you did before you game over'd. Of course, bomb anyway if you manage to trap yourself. You'll know when they'll start to overlap, as the pause between the "spawning bullets" sounds will be much shorter.

2- Dodge unfocused about 90% of the time. Before the waves overlap, you only need to focus to stop moving. It's much easier to avoid incoming walls this way. If you want, practice on Normal, moving unfocused as much as possible so you know how to do it. Focus if you want to micrododge the amulets, though.

3- Hope you get lucky. The last few waves are a clusterfuck of bullets that are impossible to read properly if you're not used to the level of density of lunatic spellcards. Well, that's actually the case for all the waves, but the first ones don't need to be read in advance.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 30, 2009, 09:30:04 PM
Well...that was disappointing.

PCB Hard 1cc, including a capture of Resurrection Butterfly!  Vsync patch = magic.  PCB is disturbingly easy with it (at least on Hard, yeah, yeah, go play Lunatic, I can still capture Asura Sword and Ghost Clifford with the input lag so go away Donut, nobody likes you).

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4609), if anyone cares.

Congrats! Vsync patch is indeed pretty sweet. What's disappointing about it, though?

Beat Suwako's extra stage. Wasn't that great of of run, since I haven't been past Frog Is Eaten by Snake due to the Croak, before this. But I'll work on making it better later.

Congrats on the clear. :D

Quote
"Earth in a Pot"
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4610

...@_@ That is extremely cunning, sneaky and underhanded. It's also brilliant, so thanks for that. :D That should make it easier.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 30, 2009, 09:31:28 PM
Quote
"Earth in a Pot"
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4610

...@_@ That is extremely cunning, sneaky and underhanded. It's also brilliant, so thanks for that. :D That should make it easier.
That's what the scorerunners use for maximum graze for Time Points. It's a fact that you need to outwit Eirin.

EDIT: I can't help but notice how good my deathbomb reflex actually is. Maybe it's because I know when I'm going to get hit. Still  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Lybydose on August 30, 2009, 10:17:57 PM
I've pretty much gone insane and decided to try the extra stages on TURBO MODE.  In other words, I'm using vpatch.ini to set the FPS to 90, making everything 50% faster.

Mokou's final non-spell is....interesting.  I managed to finish the run with 1 life left and somehow capture enough to reach Imperishable Shooting, which I immediately clipdeathed of course.

Suwako is pretty much destroying me though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hyper Dunk on August 30, 2009, 10:22:04 PM

Congrats on the clear. :D

Thank you. I'll work on Mokou next, but I still need to practice, Possessed by Phoenix, some more.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 30, 2009, 10:40:28 PM
Quote
Congrats! Vsync patch is indeed pretty sweet. What's disappointing about it, though?
PCB is disappointingly easy without the OHLOL INPUT LAG YOU DIE NOW LOLOLOL.  With it I'd have died at least three times between Chen and Alice.

...like I usually did.  Now the Hard 1cc was a breeze.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 30, 2009, 11:27:00 PM
I just pulled off LFO lunatic with one death. o_O Shame the rest of the run was shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sodium on August 30, 2009, 11:35:49 PM
So how's Legendary Flying Object Lunatic Compared to VoWG Lunatic anyways?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Krimmydoodle on August 31, 2009, 12:06:52 AM
It's kinda hard to say.  Those of us who can read VoWG have learned to do so through a few hundred runs.  Since that kind of time hasn't been devoted to LFO yet, it'd be a rather unfair comparison to make.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 31, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
Huh, sweet. I just attempted to 1cc MoF Lunatic seriously for the first time. I didn't succeed but it was still pretty encouraging; seems my weak spot is actually Stage 3. I died once to Stage 2, three times to Stage 3, twice to Aya and then I got raped by the faries at the beginning of Stage 5 since I had 0 lives and 0 power. After I continued, though, I beat Stage 5 and Stage 6 and had two lives to spare by the end of it. I'm thinking I can get this 1cc very soon, as long as I stop getting clipped by Nitori. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 31, 2009, 12:13:43 AM
Until its last phase, it's easier than VoWG. While it thrives on confusing you with bullets that constantly change their trajectory from all sides, it's generally doable to read and anticipate how to move. Then the last phase comes and it becomes a clusterfuck that's all but impossible to anticipate. Worse, bombs have never hurt more than in LFO. Not only does she gain the token bomb invincibility, but the bombs only take out bullets they touch, and even then it does it in five second~ intervals, so there's a chance it won't take out anything at all when it comes time to dodge again. Worst of all, Byakuren remains invincible for two seconds after your bomb invincibility wears off, handicapping you more. Lastly, unlock in VoWG, you can't take out bullets while invincible; you'll just pass through them.

So yeah, it's hard. :V In a ranking of final boss final attacks, I'd place it above Hourai Jewel, and about equal to or even a bit harder than Resurrection Butterfly (since that's a timeout attack and therefore bombs technically are effective).

But like Krim says, it's hard to say at this point. I have less trouble on Scarlet Gensokyo, but I've faced that attack 270 times and in the grand scheme of things would definitely place it near the top in final boss spell card difficulty. LFO's patterns seem to be mostly selected from a set of preset patterns, so in time I may figure out how to read the last phase correctly.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 31, 2009, 01:04:52 AM
Got tired of VoWG and decided to try some PCB

Got to Yuyuko with 2 lives and died pretty quickly.

I had no idea I was good enough to get to Yuyuko on my second ever try of PCB Hard o_o

Stage 4 is hell, I still hate the Prismrivers and Youmu is still a bitch =(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 31, 2009, 01:17:55 AM
Now THAT's the kind of run I like to see! UFO stage 4 lunatic, one death on the stage, one death on Murasa (her god damned third non-spell). Didn't save the replay because, uh...hell, why DIDN'T I save it? ???
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 31, 2009, 01:54:33 AM
Had a pretty cool run on Nue - captured 8 cards and finished with 3 lives and over 200k points. SanaeB, but still.....
Failed first 2 Kogasa's cards, Undefined Darkness, her survival and the final one....not bad I guess, considering that I couldn't capture the green and rainbow UFOs before.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seiryuu on August 31, 2009, 01:54:54 AM
I have no idea why, but it seems that Nue is weak against Marisa.

Like MarisA, I managed to beat her on my first go with MarisB.

WTH?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 31, 2009, 02:54:55 AM
*pant* I... *pant* Did it... *more panting for several seconds* ...I got to Orin's final spell on Normal...

*pant* Here's the... *pant* replay... http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4614

*collapses*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 31, 2009, 04:35:08 AM
Just did an awesome playthrough of IN stage 4b. No deaths, perfected the stage portion, and captured every spell card except for Event Horizon (random luck placed the stars in a way so that my method for this card became impossible. I didn't upload the replay THIS time because...! I decided that when I finally get around to recording videos, this will be my test video to see how it looks.

I should probably do something if I'm going to talk like this... ;^_^
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Thaws on August 31, 2009, 05:17:14 AM
Yeeeaaahhh!

UFO Extra clear with ReimuA with 1 life 0 bomb left.
Entered Nue with 3 lives 2 bombs, Captured most cards except Guerrilla Typhoon, Blue UFO, Rainbow UFO, and Nue's last spell.
Got my first capture of Nightmare of Heiankyou finally as well. >_>
Thought I was going to die while being cornered on the bottom-left during Undefined Darkness and bombed right after getting the Spellcard Bonus. lol.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 31, 2009, 06:22:30 AM
Quote
"LFO" Lunatic

I swear it looks like it can be micromemorized or something. It's appears to be harder than "VoWG"MoF S6 SC5, as it requires reading from all sorts of directions, and amulets themselves fly in much weirder directions, etc. Also, those yellow ones are impossible for me to see; I can survive on red alone (yes, you heard me right) for a rather long time before I clip myself by doing something stupid or by walling.

I'm still working on consistent survival by the way, so like the others, it's hard to compare it to other Spell Cards at this point.

Beware, ridiculous on-the-fly dodging is apparent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6wbOitTHGM#t=2m24s).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 31, 2009, 06:38:35 AM
I still can't manage Magical Butterfly lunatic even after watching that video. No matter what I do, I either get sandwiched between the butterfly bullets or trapped and forced to eat laser. To the uninformed, this attack becomes leaps and bounds harder on lunatic than it does on normal or even hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 31, 2009, 07:17:34 AM
Count the number of lasers fired and adjust yourself accordingly. There are special spots though.

After the 5th laser, prepare to aim the 6th laser directly down the middle. Move to the side a bit afterwards; everything will miss if you did it right.

For the ridiculous part after the 7th laser (you'll know which one I'm talking about) it's either:

or
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/untitl35.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=269&u=12803292)

If the Spell Card isn't down by now (3.xx Power with SanaeB seems to have done it; ReimuA is much better forward long-distance so this should be fine), then it should still be smooth sailing for like, the next 4-5 seconds.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 31, 2009, 08:02:33 AM
Count the number of lasers fired and adjust yourself accordingly. There are special spots though.

After the 5th laser, prepare to aim the 6th laser directly down the middle. Move to the side a bit afterwards; everything will miss if you did it right.

...

*tries*

...

How did we survive so long without someone with a degree in spell card theory? <3 Add that to the achievement pile. I didn't capture the spell card, but the part I keep dying on is the sixth laser.

So, I was randomly playing stage 3 as usual (ironically, because it's my least favorite stage, it's the one I play the most), I was doing the second half like normal, when something clicked. I suddenly realized how to do the spinning around the enemies, how to destroy the purple wall spawners and compensate for the extra bullets. And now I have perfected the second half of stage 3 twice. In one of those runs, I also succeeded in dying only once the entirety of the stage. I shouldn't have to say it, but I will anyway:

KING KRAKEN PUNCH.

My god, ZUN was supposed to nerf this like he did Shackles a Criminal Can't Remove. Maybe not THAT much, but at least TONE IT DOWN. This attack joins Omoikane's Brain and Genetics of the Subconscious as some of the worst designed and unfun danmaku in the history of Touhou.

But I've also gotten down Consecutive Hooks pretty well. My analysis of the brofist hitbox is as follows: Don't stay near the bottom during the second spell card, you WILL get clipped by the bottom of the fist. The only things that kill me now are stray bullets that I run into unfocused.

Finally, I did it at last: I beat LFO without dying (only one bomb used as well). Sadly, I can't have it both ways; I either do good on the rest of the fight and suck royally at LFO, or I do good at LFO to balance out doing terribly on the rest of the fight. The best I've managed is 3 deaths.

One last thing: I'd appreciate it if you'd analyze the best way to dodge the large bullets that fall upon your position in Devil's Recitation.

EDIT: AUGH. LFO LUNATIC ALMOST CAPTURED. It had a sliver of life left. Perhaps this is doable?

EDIT 2: Cool beans, another VoWG lunatic capture. Those are always nice.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on August 31, 2009, 10:29:24 AM
One last thing: I'd appreciate it if you'd analyze the best way to dodge the large bullets that fall upon your position in Devil's Recitation.
Which large bullets? The ones that fall randomly upon your position (reddish outline), or the aimed (or static; haven't checked) ones that form zig-zags (bluish outline)? If it's the former, then you'll just need to have a quick mind. If it's the latter, then I wouldn't bother trying to misdirect them or do something extreme with them. Though, you may just want to misdirect the evil bubble bullets away from the center.

EDIT: AUGH. LFO LUNATIC ALMOST CAPTURED. It had a sliver of life left. Perhaps this is doable?
Omnidirectional reading is hard, no? Hey, at least you didn't smack yourself as the Spell Card was dissipating during a normal run  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 31, 2009, 12:20:35 PM
HOLY SHIT THAT WAS CLOSE. @_@

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o142/Sapzdude/MoFLunatic.jpg)

And that brings me to three. MoF Lunatic 1cc'd! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4618)

The run went mostly well except for Aya's 2nd non-card which I died twice to, and VoWG for obvious reasons. Lots of bombing going on as per usual, but hey, a clear's a clear. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Helix ⑨ on August 31, 2009, 02:04:57 PM
Just captured Unreasonable Butterfly Storm in IN, I heard somewhere it was a pretty insane spell card, didn't take me that much tries but I felt proud when I did it anyway  :V

Here's how I did it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOh0bPY6w8s&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 31, 2009, 02:19:38 PM
HOLY SHIT THAT WAS CLOSE. @_@

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o142/Sapzdude/MoFLunatic.jpg)

And that brings me to three. MoF Lunatic 1cc'd! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4618)

The run went mostly well except for Aya's 2nd non-card which I died twice to, and VoWG for obvious reasons. Lots of bombing going on as per usual, but hey, a clear's a clear. :D

Congrats man!!

I watched your replay and you really don't like going to the POC do you? hahaha

Your VoWG was pretty good too :)

Hopefully I'll beat it on Hard today to move on to PCB and EoSD...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Matsuri on August 31, 2009, 03:19:26 PM
Just captured Unreasonable Butterfly Storm in IN, I heard somewhere it was a pretty insane spell card, didn't take me that much tries but I felt proud when I did it anyway  :V

Here's how I did it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOh0bPY6w8s&feature=channel_page

There's an easier way to do that one-- you don't have to do any horizontal movement at all! That spell card really messed me up until I realized I you can do the whole card somewhat easily if you stay in the dead center of the screen and move up and down. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wNkTnICqRc&fmt=18#t=2m39s)

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Helix ⑨ on August 31, 2009, 03:23:57 PM
Just captured Unreasonable Butterfly Storm in IN, I heard somewhere it was a pretty insane spell card, didn't take me that much tries but I felt proud when I did it anyway  :V

Here's how I did it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOh0bPY6w8s&feature=channel_page

There's an easier way to do that one-- you don't have to do any horizontal movement at all! That spell card really messed me up until I realized I you can do the whole card somewhat easily if you stay in the dead center of the screen and move up and down. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wNkTnICqRc&fmt=18#t=2m39s)
omg  :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Matsuri on August 31, 2009, 03:39:19 PM
The butterfly wings can really throw one off. Those bullets aren't as big as they seem.  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 31, 2009, 03:46:54 PM
Unseasonable Butterfly Storm.....took me 291 attempts. Then I've figured out that I can just go up and down and got it within 20.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Matsuri on August 31, 2009, 04:08:59 PM
At least it's not as bad as Fantasy Heaven. That took me over 300 tries.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Bananamatic on August 31, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
I still didn't unlock that one.

Is 14 attempts for Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana good? :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on August 31, 2009, 04:36:24 PM
EDIT: I'm proving to myself more and more that UFO lunatic is possible. I just managed UFO stage 5 lunatic's stage portion without dying. Then I died three times on Syou, but anywaaaaay. Basically, this game is EoSD on a level up in difficulty: Random, difficult yet doable stages, and extremely hard bosses that make all the stages pale in comparison.
I may need to feast upon your brain sometime. Before I quit with UFO I would routinely find the STAGES harder than the BOSSES (exempting Byakuren, of course). In fact I have a no-bomb 1-miss run of Syou here somewhere. At least I hope I saved and didn't delete that replay...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Matsuri on August 31, 2009, 05:43:46 PM
I still didn't unlock that one.

Is 14 attempts for Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana good? :V

Seeing that it took me over 100 tries, yeah. However, someone on YouTube taught me a neat trick to beating that card without moving (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXC1fgIqIyU&fmt=22#t=3m30s). Which ironically only took me like 4-5 tries. (Don't pay attention to the history on that card, I use multiple score.dat files, so the number for that one is off. However, my capture of Fantasy Heaven is on that video there at the very end, and it actually took me more tries than the history shows since I experimented with different characters too. :p
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 31, 2009, 05:46:21 PM
Another last word down! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4624)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Matsuri on August 31, 2009, 05:49:52 PM
Another last word down! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4624)

That one's fun! I like using Marisa to take out all of the familiars, and just time out the lasers. :p
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on August 31, 2009, 06:35:51 PM
NUE CLEAR!

Went in 4/2...finished 0/0.  Yeah.  Everything was fine until Danmaku Chimera.  Why am I so bad at that card?

Also, replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4625).  And yes, it's a clear, whether it says so or not.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on August 31, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
Congrats man!!

I watched your replay and you really don't like going to the POC do you? hahaha

Your VoWG was pretty good too :)

Hopefully I'll beat it on Hard today to move on to PCB and EoSD...

Thanks. :D

Yeah, I really suck at getting points... I need to work on that. I'm lucky if I actually reach the 150mil mark in MoF, I usually concentrate completely on survival rather than points, which ironically means I usually get less lives. And I understand where you're coming from about VoWG now, heh... it suddenly becomes much more difficult when you have a 1cc riding on it.

Anyway, good luck with your Hard 1cc. :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on August 31, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
And I understand where you're coming from about VoWG now, heh... it suddenly becomes much more difficult when you have a 1cc riding on it.

Yes it does. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4626)

But nevermind me... I definitely have issues with it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on August 31, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
I just did Resurrection Butterfly without dying at all, and only bombing it once. Now, if only I could do the rest of the Yuyuko battle without dying 4+ times... =/ *has been doing practice runs of PCB Stage 6*

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Tarquinius on August 31, 2009, 11:51:35 PM
Just got to Kanako for the first time in MoF normal. I died on her second spellcard, but at least I now have stage 5 for practice, although I clipdeathed there mostly. Replay here. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4629)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 01, 2009, 12:30:38 AM
I just perfected MoF stage 1.

I'm pretty sure I've done this before, but then again who knows? This is one of those stages that makes you not want to touch it. Minoriko's second non-spell confused the hell out of me for a long time for some reason.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on September 01, 2009, 12:38:14 AM
...I can't believe it! I tried playing PCB Extra, (not sure why I was insane enough to try it) and I actually reached Ran! ...Her first nonspell is strangely easy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2009, 12:58:16 AM
Somehow 1cced MoF Easy with ReimuA when I wasn't expecting it! :P
I wasn't really trying hard in anything except for Stage 6 so it really came as a surprise. :o
(And just for the record I've 1cced Easy before with ReimuC but nothing better than that :V)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Matsuri on September 01, 2009, 01:04:15 AM
...I can't believe it! I tried playing PCB Extra, (not sure why I was insane enough to try it) and I actually reached Ran! ...Her first nonspell is strangely easy.

Her first spell is super easy too when you know the trick to it. Just slooooowly tap left or right as she attacks and you won't get hit by that mess of bullets-- and it's a free extend before the fun begins!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 01, 2009, 01:24:02 AM
FINALLY capped Peerless Wind God Lunatic. It wasn't even a very good capture, I wasn't trying that hard, just I randomly happened to not get clusterfucked down the right hand side of the screen as much as usual and I got a cap without even really expecting it. :V Well, whatever. That took me more attempts than VoWG Lunatic. Now I just have some Sanae cards and Suwako's survival cards left until I've capped everything... really not looking forward to Red Frog. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: lmagus on September 01, 2009, 02:51:42 AM
I love playing against Sanae.

I love practicing her cards... they're so nice! =P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on September 01, 2009, 02:59:50 AM
FINALLY capped Peerless Wind God Lunatic. It wasn't even a very good capture, I wasn't trying that hard, just I randomly happened to not get clusterfucked down the right hand side of the screen as much as usual and I got a cap without even really expecting it. :V Well, whatever. That took me more attempts than VoWG Lunatic. Now I just have some Sanae cards and Suwako's survival cards left until I've capped everything... really not looking forward to Red Frog. <_<
That's pretty much how captures of PBSG tend to go.  And Red Frog is nothing...Suwa War is where it's at.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 01, 2009, 05:28:36 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4631

Nearly 50 tries later, I managed to beat UFO stage 3 lunatic without dying. But I was SO CLOSE to capturing King Kraken Punch. ;_;

I'mma gonna keep from playing full runs of hard and lunatic until the English patch comes out.

Rumor has it it's going to be out much sooner than any previous patch

EDIT: Also, a bit earlier than that I finally captured Ghost Wheels without slowdown. Not only that, but it was at 0.00 power. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on September 01, 2009, 05:53:40 AM
PCB NORMAL 1CC WITH TWO LIVES LEFT!!!!!!!!!!! No words can describe how excited I am right now! YES! YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4632 It doesn't say "Cleared" but it is. And I'm happy :3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Matsuri on September 01, 2009, 06:04:06 AM
PCB NORMAL 1CC WITH TWO LIVES LEFT!!!!!!!!!!! No words can describe how excited I am right now! YES! YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4632 It doesn't say "Cleared" but it is. And I'm happy :3

Good job! Now aim for a Phantasm Clear!  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hawk on September 01, 2009, 07:58:21 AM
Got to Kaguya on Lunatic.

...what?

Why is IN so easy?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 01, 2009, 08:10:33 AM
You know what? I think LFO IS micromemorizable! I got it down to a sliver of life, AGAIN, after being caught in a literally undodgeable cluster of bullets that walled me from all sides AGAIN. Definitely the most dangerous parts of the attack are when the phases change, because bullets from the last phase interfere with the bullets of the next phase, making things that much harder to dodge (this is most definitely intentional though, because by the time those bullets clear, it's time for the next phase to begin).

Also, Superhuman is officially trivial to me. Once you realize actually following Byakuren is useless, you can end the attack by just standing in one place.

Plus, I think I finally saw the light on how to dodge the final WTF SKILL part of Magic Butterfly. I still failed it, but if I can master that dodge...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 01, 2009, 12:12:27 PM
UFO S5 Hard (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4634). Because this shows how SanaeB trivializes the stage. I could reproduce similar results for Lunatic, but the pre-boss waves are much, much more dangerous at that difficulty.

I swear, I will 1cc after tomorrow's early morning lecture. I can do this. I've prepared enough I believe. I just need to bomb the end SCs because they clip like crazy.

EDIT: Yep, definitely not 1cc material tonight. Spelling mistakes are horrendous.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on September 01, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
Finally, I have defeated UFO normal.

... why do I have this strange compulsion to do it again?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 01, 2009, 03:29:01 PM
Finally, I have defeated UFO normal.

... why do I have this strange compulsion to do it again?

Because the Shinki lasers are totally sweet. :V

Also, just got my first capture of Rorschach, woo (and about three near-misses of Genetics and Philosophy <_<).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 01, 2009, 07:15:09 PM
Finally, I have defeated UFO normal.

... why do I have this strange compulsion to do it again?

Because you desire to be better. You know you can do better. You cannot resist...

Also to be more on topic I 1cc'd China's scenario in 12.3 on easy last night (you can see why I wasn't rushing to post that). I can't wait for the translation patch so I can read the ending, because it looks adorable. I can see that China's dream seems to be inspired by manga from the pictures.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: BoLaD on September 01, 2009, 09:19:43 PM
HELL YEA! 1CC MOUNTAIN OF FAITH LUNATIC! 3 LUNATICS DOWN!

Now, excuse me while I watch UFO videos to learn how to play as Sanae-B, as I am not willing to experience the mental trauma of failing to 1cc UFO on hard with Reimu-A.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on September 01, 2009, 09:23:01 PM
Finally captured Nue's stupid, stupid survival card. Still lost the game (Green UFO smashed me earlier), but I'm now back to the status quo of capturing every extra card in the series except the insanity that is Suwa War.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Milkyway64 on September 02, 2009, 02:13:04 AM
Finally captured Nue's stupid, stupid survival card. Still lost the game (Green UFO smashed me earlier), but I'm now back to the status quo of capturing every extra card in the series except the insanity that is Suwa War.

Goddammit, I lost The Game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 02, 2009, 02:37:41 AM
Finally captured Red Frog, which leaves Suwa War as the only MoF card I have yet to capture. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Azinth on September 02, 2009, 02:53:52 AM
Oh God lol.  So, I finally got past stage 4 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4641) of IN no-bombs, making it to stage 5. 

I really should have made it to stage 6 though, but I died to Invisible Full Moon in the most hilarious way ever.  In fact, all of stage 5 is a hideous failure, and everybody should download the replay just so they can laugh at it.

It should also be noted that I no-bomb/no-deathed Mystia in this run.  It's okay though, I made up for it by dying to the streaming fuzzies in the beginning of the stage.  It wouldn't be a real run if I didn't die on stage 2 now would it?  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on September 02, 2009, 03:06:15 AM
O LOOK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AQmCxRwlm8&fmt=18)

Let's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGt6hktE9zM&fmt=18)
Play (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGZFjno5jA&fmt=18)
Imperishable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcBz8NerU5I&fmt=18)
Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZkBTUVwkKk&fmt=18)

Processing Videos May Have Lesser Quality, Wait A Bit, I Guess, This Is Only Here So I Have Six Lines For The Six Stages (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXdI0ZPDEA&fmt=18)

Also, this was poorly done.  Volume is funky because I forgot to mess around with it beforehand, so I may be hard to hear, and it's only Normal, but overall it is a decent product and a good learning experience so as not to screw up next time damn it Shim you moron.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 02, 2009, 03:55:17 AM
UFO Lunatic 1cc.

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4642).
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/th00210.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=271&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 02, 2009, 04:00:30 AM
UFO Lunatic 1cc.

Replay, screenshots to come.

@_@ Massive congrats, that's awesome. Sweet Jesus, with two lives to spare?!

Also,
O LOOK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AQmCxRwlm8&fmt=18)

Let's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGt6hktE9zM&fmt=18)
Play (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGZFjno5jA&fmt=18)
Imperishable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcBz8NerU5I&fmt=18)
Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZkBTUVwkKk&fmt=18)

Processing Videos May Have Lesser Quality, Wait A Bit, I Guess, This Is Only Here So I Have Six Lines For The Six Stages (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXdI0ZPDEA&fmt=18)

Also, this was poorly done.  Volume is funky because I forgot to mess around with it beforehand, so I may be hard to hear, and it's only Normal, but overall it is a decent product and a good learning experience so as not to screw up next time damn it Shim you moron.

This is great! YOU MUST MAKE ONE FOR MOUNTAIN OF FAITH LUNATIC. I want to hear your reactions to Peerless Bullshit God. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on September 02, 2009, 04:09:43 AM
UFO Lunatic 1cc.

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4642).
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/th00210.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=271&u=12803292)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFBAITYISAGODFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on September 02, 2009, 04:13:35 AM
UFO Lunatic 1cc.

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4642).

... Wait until Donut see this.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 02, 2009, 04:15:26 AM
UFO Lunatic 1cc.

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4642).
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/th00210.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=271&u=12803292)
BAITY FUCKING DELIVERS
Good job.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 02, 2009, 04:37:35 AM
One more screenshot. To show the pain and suffering hardships I endured.
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/th00410.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=272&u=12803292)
Yeah, slowdown's a bit higher than "usual", probably because I was continually swapping between IRC and the game itself. Which also caused a bug to occur, though it doesn't affect the replay whatsoever.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 02, 2009, 05:19:22 AM
Hey guys, I just-

UFO Lunatic 1cc.

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4642).
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/th00210.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=271&u=12803292)

O_O

*has a heart attack*

X_X

*is revived*

...A-anyway, I just captured Magic Butterfly! Twice in a row! That last dodge is tough, but I think I've got it. And also...

*stares at Baity*

Also...also I think I just figured out how to make Byakuren's first spell card as easy as possible! The smaller bullets travel in streams, and if you visualize it like that, it's much easier to dodge everything!

And I beat LFO without...=_=...dying again. I got WTF walled, and until I figure that out, I'm not capturing this card, but one bomb will take that out and I can kill it without dying from there.

So good for me! Good...for...me...

...

OTL ALL HAIL OUR NEW GOD. BAITY TRULY BELIEVES HE/SHE IS OF THE CHOSEN ONES.

*downloads replay and watches*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 02, 2009, 05:29:09 AM
Also...also I think I just figured out how to make Byakuren's first spell card as easy as possible! The smaller bullets travel in streams, and if you visualize it like that, it's much easier to dodge everything!
I figured this out 3-4 days ago. Adding to this, the Seizure BulletsTM also travel in a similar manner, but in "reverse direction". I would still bomb it because it's so easy to clipdeath against. In an average run, you need to be able to quickly read the oncoming bullets, and position yourself precisely in a short time frame. And use some vertical dodging if you're unlucky  :V

OTL ALL HAIL OUR NEW GOD. BAITY TRULY BELIEVES HE/SHE IS OF THE CHOSEN ONES.

*downloads replay and watches*
Just a note, there are some spectacular things in that replay, yet at the same time, some really, really stupid deaths. Everybody's calling me a God now  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 02, 2009, 05:37:55 AM
O LOOK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AQmCxRwlm8&fmt=18)

Let's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGt6hktE9zM&fmt=18)
Play (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGZFjno5jA&fmt=18)
Imperishable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcBz8NerU5I&fmt=18)
Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZkBTUVwkKk&fmt=18)

Processing Videos May Have Lesser Quality, Wait A Bit, I Guess, This Is Only Here So I Have Six Lines For The Six Stages (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXdI0ZPDEA&fmt=18)

Also, this was poorly done.  Volume is funky because I forgot to mess around with it beforehand, so I may be hard to hear, and it's only Normal, but overall it is a decent product and a good learning experience so as not to screw up next time damn it Shim you moron.

I'm actually capping video (for no good reason) of my first "real" (i.e. default lives for a change, lol) 1cc  (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4647)that I managed this evening right now. Mine's only IN Easy though. ... guess I've got to start somewhere?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 02, 2009, 05:59:44 AM
@_@

I'm...a bit disappointed actually. I was too amazed by the tactics (and how many of these are impossible for Reimu A D:) and stuff to count the total deaths, but it seems that UFO lunatic forces you to be a slave to the UFO system. :(

Still, good job. <3

NOW DO PoD-*clip-death*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on September 02, 2009, 06:00:28 AM
So what's the order of Lunatics these days?

Is it UFO > SA > EoSD > IN > PCB > MoF?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 02, 2009, 06:16:59 AM
@_@

I'm...a bit disappointed actually. I was too amazed by the tactics (and how many of these are impossible for Reimu A D:) and stuff to count the total deaths, but it seems that UFO lunatic forces you to be a slave to the UFO system. :(

Still, good job. <3

It's a "rough" 1cc. There's a reason why the Japanese do think that SanaeB was the most powerful overall.

I also used my bombs in spots where I believe I would clipdeath, hence giving me the largest return (of lives, and the large number of successful deathbombs). Hell, if you don't count stupid deaths / bombs, I can reach 5 spare lives easily (Tablet Theory* says that this will never happen though). I'll probably go around all the shot types and 1cc those in time as well. Probably in this order.

ReimuA, ReimuB, SanaeA, MarisaB, MarisaA.

Quickly adding as well, I believe that I did a demostration run for S5 and 6 and how to UFO chain properly with minimal bomb usage. Only 1-2 bombs for S6 is needed to be able to chain as good as SanaeB. S5 is the same thing; 1-2 bombs is enough if you exclude bombing Nazrin away for additional UFOs.

Some form of EDIT: Yeah, 1 bomb is all you need against the waves of fairies for maximum bomb gathering.
And...
I'm...a bit disappointed actually.
So about capturing Ichirin's first Boss Spell Card...

NOW DO PoD-
no. Well, not yet anyways. At least let me finish off this session. Then I might give it another go.

So what's the order of Lunatics these days?

Is it UFO > SA > EoSD > IN > PCB > MoF?
Sounds about right. Though, UFO is technically "easier" since you can bomb your way through parts you have trouble on with most shot types (4 of 6).

*NOT what you think it is; it's an insider.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on September 02, 2009, 07:17:32 AM
It's hardly a 1cc, but I managed to reach stage 6 on PCB Hard.

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4648
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Arcengal on September 02, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
One question Baity.

At 2/2 going into LFO, were you not even *slightly* tempted at going for the capture?  ;) Both of your bombs seemed to be timed to get yourself into a better shotgunning position rather than to keep you alive.

I'd probably have given in and tried it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 02, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
ABOUT FREAKING TIME

Suwa War captured, and by extension every spell card in Mountain of Faith capped. Hell yes. :D

The reason I post the replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4652), though, is not so much the Suwa War capture and more the hilarious fail that went on during most of the rest of the run. It was bad to the point that I managed to get killed by Suwako during the point between Red Frog and Suwa War (which had me worried it wouldn't count the Suwa War cap <_<).

Incidentally, over the course of the Suwa War attempts, Moriya's Iron Ring has become one of my favourite cards in the series, but only when you do it wrong. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 02, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
One question Baity.

At 2/2 going into LFO, were you not even *slightly* tempted at going for the capture?  ;) Both of your bombs seemed to be timed to get yourself into a better shotgunning position rather than to keep you alive.

I'd probably have given in and tried it.
Survival comes before capture for a first 1cc. If you look at Stage 5, you'll see that I don't even want to attempt to go for a capture of any SC unless I had no bombs (because Lunatic is that much more overwhelming than Hard). I believe all most of the 1cc's so far shown on royalflare bomb Syou's 1st, 3rd and 4th SCs. And they usually bomb Mid-Boss Nazrin away. For extra UFOs.Oh God that SC is BS.

Also, both bombs were at points where I felt I was "cornered". I believe the first bomb wasn't necessary (i.e. everything would've missed), but the second one is looking like I would've been hit otherwise.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 02, 2009, 11:55:09 PM
Greatest Treasure almost equals Catwalk in difficulty on lunatic. =_= The fact that you benefit from bombing it only makes it worse. I captured it once out of sheer luck.

On that note: LFO LUNATIC CAPTURE! :D~

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4654

The deaths in this run were retarded (especially on Devil's Recitation, I thought the bomb would end it and moved up to the PoC), but the fact that even then there were only three deaths shows that I've come a fair ways. And before you ask, no I don't have any idea how I made those dodges at the end. That one wave at the end is the one that always kills me, and it was sheer luck that I avoided it this time.

Also, Baity. Any good tips on how to consistently beat midboss Nues? I'm pretty sure the attacks are static and aimed at your position, but the third and fourth waves for both just seem to kill me or let me live at the whims of fate.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 03, 2009, 12:13:33 AM
On that note: LFO LUNATIC CAPTURE! :D~

Congrats, that's kickass. I still haven't capped the Hard version. <_< I should probably get to work on that.

Time to continuespam my way through SA Lunatic, I think.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on September 03, 2009, 12:20:59 AM
I can't believe it. I actually did it... MoF, stage 4, Normal, NO DEATHS!

Behold: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4656
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 03, 2009, 12:38:07 AM
Greatest Treasure almost equals Catwalk in difficulty on lunatic. =_= The fact that you benefit from bombing it only makes it worse. I captured it once out of sheer luck.
My History is sitting on something like 5/50? More? Less? Not as BS as "Catwalk"SA S5 SC1, but still.

A better comparison would be "CoK"[?]PCB S5 SC5 without slowdown, larger bullets, and a bullets being spawned from the side.

Also, Baity. Any good tips on how to consistently beat midboss Nues? I'm pretty sure the attacks are static and aimed at your position, but the third and fourth waves for both just seem to kill me or let me live at the whims of fate.
Ehh... no. Personally, I would use 1-2 bombs during the "Red" waves for max power. I think it's static and / or aimed. I try to follow a middle, middle -> left, middle, middle -> right scheme (normally... you probably won't ever see me follow this in a 1cc for some reason; probably irrationality).
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4657
Not sure if this would show it though  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on September 03, 2009, 12:42:47 AM
A better comparison would be "CoK"[?]PCB S5 SC5 without slowdown, larger bullets, and a bullets being spawned from the side.
Nah, because Components of Konpaku is easy.  (Comparatively.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 03, 2009, 01:38:07 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4654
Wait, you got Byakuren's 2nd non-spell?  :V

Also, the way you're doing Byakuren's 4th non-spell is off a bit from the "optimal" path. I'll demonstrate it once I come back in like 5 hours or so.

A better comparison would be "CoK"[?]PCB S5 SC5 without slowdown, larger bullets, and a bullets being spawned from the side.
Nah, because Components of Konpaku is easy.  (Comparatively.)
Hence the additions.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Hawk on September 03, 2009, 02:02:29 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4658

FUCK YEAH.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 03, 2009, 02:27:15 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4658

FUCK YEAH.

Congrats on the 1cc!

Aaaaand I finally managed to continuespam my way through SA Lunatic. Many of those spell cards were terrifying... I highly doubt a 1cc of that is coming anytime soon.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Seian Verian on September 03, 2009, 02:44:08 AM
YES! YES YES YES YES YES!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Stage 6 no deaths run! YES!!!!

Replay of awesomeness: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4659

EDIT: YES! MoF Normal 1cc! http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4660
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Drake on September 03, 2009, 04:00:33 AM
Er, almost beat UFO Extra. Damned last card is mostly easy, just the last phase...

Also, UNL Lunatic 1cc with Meiling. Why was this so hard.

(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1769/fishm.png)

Seriously what the shit.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 03, 2009, 07:06:01 AM
Just managed to defeat Byakuren with only two deaths. :O I swear, Devil's recitation would be a million times better if they gave you just a LITTLE more room to work with. The bullet reading under pressure is really fun, but it's hampered when you end up being slammed by the restricting walls. In the original Shinki attack, those wall were just there to keep you in the middle, not even the laser was an actual threat.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Fightest on September 03, 2009, 07:15:00 AM
I got my first 1cc of EoSD Normal the other day with ReimuB. I was mighty chuffed, considering the times before that I barely got to Remi only to get nuked by a choice of Curse of Vlad Tepes, Scarlet Shoot and/or Red Magic.

Now to figure out how the heck I managed to 1cc PCB Normal, then on to MoF.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: LHCling on September 03, 2009, 07:25:40 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4654
Wait, you got Byakuren's 2nd non-spell?  :V

Also, the way you're doing Byakuren's 4th non-spell is off a bit from the "optimal" path. I'll demonstrate it once I come back in like 5 hours or so.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4663

Man, I feel so weird. Also, I clipped, so I repeated it a few times for you.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Generalguy on September 03, 2009, 07:37:29 AM
Timed out Fujiyama Volcano. Then I captured it no-vertical. Not in a row though (duh).

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Nine West on September 03, 2009, 07:47:45 AM
HOLY CRAP

PoDD 1cc Normal.

My very first 1cc Normal! Many thanks to Yumemi <3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 03, 2009, 09:58:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcqz6fZcZj0&fmt=18

Behold, my first Youtube video! IN stage 4b lunatic no deaths.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 03, 2009, 03:44:35 PM
Captured Lunatic Ten Evil Stars and Hell's Tokamak. :V

Huh. After all those runs to cap Suwa War, I reckon I could do a no-focus or no deaths run of MoF Extra.

EDIT:...Okay, well, Long Arm and Long Leg no focus is sort of... impossible? >_<

EDIT 2: MoF Extra No Focus clear (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4664)! Jesus Christ that was close... Suwako was obviously not designed with no focus runs in mind. <_< The stage section went well. Suwako, not so much... to be honest most of the deaths were needless clipdeaths. I died on her second non-card, third non-card, twice to Seven Stones and Seven Trees, and once to Froggy Braves The Elements. I went into Red Frog with 3 power, bombed that twice. Went into Suwa War with 1 power, and wasted the bomb at about 30 seconds remaining, but somehow managed to survive the whole rest of the attack, and then I captured her final card. It was terrifying. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: theshirn on September 03, 2009, 07:46:45 PM
GRAAAAAAAHHH!!!

Finally, on the 97th attempt, I have achieved one of my ultimate Touhou goals:

VIRTUE OF WIND GOD CAPTURED! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4666)

And I was still playing like crap the previous four or five attempts, and the rest of this run is crap, and then BAM!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA OH DAMN DOES IT FEEL AWESOME
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: Sapz on September 03, 2009, 07:55:48 PM
GRAAAAAAAHHH!!!

Finally, on the 97th attempt, I have achieved one of my ultimate Touhou goals:

VIRTUE OF WIND GOD CAPTURED! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4666)

And I was still playing like crap the previous four or five attempts, and the rest of this run is crap, and then BAM!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA OH DAMN DOES IT FEEL AWESOME

Congrats, man! That's awesome. :D

Now time it out.

/me runs
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments Mk. II
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 03, 2009, 08:02:42 PM
GRAAAAAAAHHH!!!

Finally, on the 97th attempt, I have achieved one of my ultimate Touhou goals:

VIRTUE OF WIND GOD CAPTURED! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4666)

And I was still playing like crap the previous four or five attempts, and the rest of this run is crap, and then BAM!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA OH DAMN DOES IT FEEL AWESOME

Hmm hmm, you've been at it for a long time, haven't you? Good job.

But NOW what are you going to pour your efforts into? :P I know! Scarlet Meister! Get crackin'.