東方封魔録 ～ the Story of Eastern Wonderland

[Sapz]

Welcome to the Story of Eastern Wonderland high score thread!



Rules:

• Make sure to use default starting settings - that's 3 lives and 3 bombs.
• Only submit scores that were made on one credit - no continues!
• Screenshots/videos required for first place scores!

Please use the following format to submit your scores:

Difficulty - Character/Shot Type
Name - Score - Stage - AutofireOn/Off - Screenshot/Video (if applicable)

Example:

Lunatic - ReimuA
Spaz - 5,000,000 - 4 - AutofireOn  - Screenshot

Now go get some scores!


Easy[monospace]
-ReimuA-
 1. KirbyComment   - 24,025,500 - C - AutofireOn  - Replay

-ReimuB-
 1. KirbyComment   - 22,909,640 - C - AutofireOn  - Replay
 2. Karisa         - 20,057,300 - C - AutofireOn  - Video
 3. S-TORA         - 15,894,040 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot
 4. kurzov         -  1,418,590 - 2

-ReimuC-
 1. KirbyComment   - 21,519,230 - C - AutofireOn  - Replay
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Normal[monospace]
-ReimuA-
 1. KirbyComment   - 21,477,840 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot1 - Screenshot2
 2. VgameT         - 14,664,180 - C -             - Image
 3. Prinny         - 12,075,650 - C - AutofireOff - Video

-ReimuB-
 1. KirbyComment   - 23,007,770 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot - Replay
 2. Karisa         - 20,227,690 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot
 3. SEO            - 15,554,980 - C - AutofireOff
 4. Koakkuri       - 13,658,720 - C -             - Picture
 5. Prinny         - 12,416,280 - C - AutofireOff - Screenshot

-ReimuC-
 1. KirbyComment   - 22,041,350 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot - Replay
 2. Prinny         - 11,058,560 - C - AutofireOff - Video
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Hard[monospace]
-ReimuA-
 1. Pearl          - 18,772,850 - C - AutoFireOn  - Screenshot
 2. Prinny         - 15,538,380 - C - AutofireOff - Video

-ReimuB-
 1. KirbyComment   - 30,898,850 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot1 - Screenshot2
 2. Karisa         - 29,790,260 - C - AutofireOn  - Video

-ReimuC-
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Lunatic[monospace]
-ReimuA-
 1. KirbyComment   - 42,942,800 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot - Replay
 2. Pearl          - 36,534,880 - C - AutoFireOn  - Screenshot
 3. Prinny         - 14,526,330 - C - AutofireOn  - Video
 4. Jaimers        - 13,790,890 - C -             - Replay

-ReimuB-
 1. KirbyComment   - 39,387,300 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot - Replay
 2. Karisa         - 21,334,210 - C - AutofireOff - Video
 3. ebarrett       - 11,936,570 - C -             - Screenshot

-ReimuC-
 1. KirbyComment   - 36,050,450 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot - Replay
 2. theshim        - 13,666,670 - C -             - Screenshot
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Extra[monospace]
-ReimuA-
 1. KirbyComment   - 42,603,800 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot - Replay
 2. Prinny         - 19,428.810 - C - AutofireOn  - Video
 3. Serela         - 12,117,690 - C

-ReimuB-
 1. KirbyComment   - 38,105,400 - C - AutofireOn  - Replay
 2. Karisa         - 37,058,770 - C - AutofireOn  - Video - Screenshot
 3. Pdee           - 31,419,820 - C -             - Replay
 4. Prinny         - 22,490,830 - C - AutofireOn  - Screenshot
 5. Serela         - 15,064,810 - C

-ReimuC-
 1. KirbyComment   - 33,862,900 - C - AutofireOn  - Replay
 2. Zigzagwolf     - 15,458,060 - C - AutofireOff - Screenshots/Video (NMNB)
 3. Zodiac         - 14,610,620 - C -             - Replay
 4. Jaimers        - 13,620,960 - C -             - Replay
 5. Serela         - 13,111,400 - C
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[Serela]

http://puu.sh/DOq <--- Image
Extra - ReimuA
NeoSere - 12,117,690 - Clear
Extra - ReimuB
NeoSere - 15,064,810 - Clear
Extra - ReimuC
NeoSere - 13,111,400 - Clear

[Jaimers]

Extra - Reimu C
Jaimers - 13,620,960 - C - Replay

Lunatic - Reimu A
Jaimers - 13,790,890 - ALL - Replay 

[ebarrett]

Lunatic - Reimu B
ebarrett - 11,936,570 - ALL

Image here.

[theshirn]

Lunatic - Reimu C
theshim - 13,666,670 - ALL

I'm pretty certain it was ReimuC, anyway.  Been a long time.  No, I haven't touched it since.

[chirpy13]

Such a lonely thread...

Normal - ReimuA
Chirpy13 - 12,135,820 - C - Replay

Pretty horrible run between the magic stones and Mima... Lots of needless deaths.  It's still my high score though, so I guess I'm gonna go with it.

[Vibri]

Normal - ReimuA
VgameT - 14,664,180 - C - Image

I died 4 times on Mima :<  I feel like just because of that, this score could be improved, but this game is kind of not fun to play so I won't.

[Pdeesanbo]

Extra - Reimu B
Pdee - 31,419,820 - C - Replay

Sloppy use of bombs and poor suicides. I can see possibly getting around 40mil with good luck on this stage.

[Koakkuri]

Let's chip in.

Normal - ReimuB

Koakkuri - 13,658,720 - C - Picture

I'm suddenly drawing some (masochistic?) enjoyment out of this game, so I may end up with more scores later.

[Naut]

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[Zil]

Whaddaya know, I have the highscore. (and I didn't even clear)

Lunatic - Reimu A
Zil - 14,086,670 - 5 - Image
Zil - 14,764,640 - 4 - Image
I actually have a recording of this, since I figured the score in the top spot should have a replay. I don't feel like uploading it to Youtube, but I'll do it if anyone cares. Also, Marisa used a move I've never seen before. :I

Lunatic - Reimu A
Zil - 15,965,730 - C - Replay
If I weren't a doofus I probably could have got 18 million or more.

Lunatic - Reimu B
Zil - 14,482,220 - 5 - Image

[Zodiac]

Extra - ReimuC
Zodiac - 14,610,620 - C - Replay
Not really neat at stage part. :\

[Sapz]

(Small) update checkpoint.

[Zil]

Extra - Reimu A
Zil - 18,610,320 - C - Screenshot

Extra - Reimu B
Zil - 22,948,620 - C - Screenshot

So I guess those purple bird things are pretty much the whole stage. I'll try to figure out how to optimize the item collecting. Beyond that it seems like mostly luck.

[Shimatora]

Easy - Reimu B
S-TORA - 11,816,580 - C - Screenshot

That'll do for now.

[Zil]

Easy - Reimu A
Zil - 13,438,440 - C - Screenshot

Wasted lives and bombs. I forgot that both Mima and the midboss drop extra lives. I'm not sure how relevant the clear bonus is either. Finished with 4 extra lives and only gained about a million. It might be best to suicide all but one life for the point items that (sometimes) get dropped.

[Shimatora]

Easy - Reimu B
S-TORA - 13,018,700 - C - Screenshot

The best run I got out of today. Pushing higher tomorrow. (or today now, heh.)

Nice score Zil! I'll see what I can do to beat it!

[Karisa]

I'm not sure how relevant the clear bonus is either. Finished with 4 extra lives and only gained about a million. It might be best to suicide all but one life for the point items that (sometimes) get dropped.

I think SoEW's end-of-game non-Extra clear bonus is a static 1 million. Even if it isn't, you get no point items at all in that stage (other than possibly some from dying), so the clear bonus wouldn't be significant regardless.

I have almost no idea on how to score in SoEW, anyway. The unreliably obtainable (due to random enemy spawn points and drops, and no way to auto-collect) 51200(x?)-value items make way too much of a difference. Though I think planning bombs for point items like in LLS still scores higher than not dying to keep the power item value high, especially since that there are 9 lives (2 + extends at 1m, 2m, 3m, 5m, 8m, stage 4 2nd midboss, Mima) to make use of and you can't hold more than 5 at once. Except perhaps in Extra, where you only get 1 extra bomb by dying, and you actually do get a variable clear bonus, which doesn't seem to be explained on the wiki (it doesn't match the formula used for the stage 1-4 clear bonuses).

[chirpy13]

Easy - ReimuA
Chirpy13 - 14,075,400 - C - Screenshot

I don't remember this game very well.  Lots of really dumb deaths, ramming into enemies and things.

[Zil]

Easy - Reimu B
Zil - 14,649,900 - C - Screenshot

Better use of bombs this time, and better item collecting. Type B's homing is helpful, though A's speed in naturally helpful for grabbing items. Not sure which is best, though I'm leaning toward A. Some other things:

- I killed myself a bunch of times against Mima, and the clear bonus still came out to be around 1 million. I think it's probably good to suicide for items.
- Further, I think you drop more power if you're at full power when you die, so suicides would be best at low power levels in that case.
- Marisa dropped a big power item this time. I don't know where it came from, though it happened while I was bombing. Maybe one of her options dropped it. It might be possible to milk the battle for power items then, using suicides + bombspam.
- I -think- the end of stage bonus takes number of point items collected into consideration, though it's unlikely that the last stage does. (There are no point items in that stage aside from potential suicide items.) So it's probably better to mass-suicide in an earlier stage. (i.e. against Marisa.)

Edit after seeing Karisa's post: Okay then, yeah. No reason not to suicide early. Then stage 5 gives you tons of power items, so it's probably good to be at full power there. Just how does power item value work? Is it like EoSD? I haven't checked the wiki yet, actually.

Second edit: Yeah it's like EoSD. That might make suicides tricky. Maybe not worth it even, since collecting items on Easy isn't so hard without bombing. I'll have to try a run without deaths everywhere.

[Karisa]

OK, assuming I counted correctly and you collect no large power items other than the one from the death, a death costs 434920-486080 for 43-47 power items collected below 12800 (it takes the large item plus 6 small items to reach full power again, then the 7th is still worth 10, the 8th 20, and so on, and yes 11500 is skipped), plus a bit more from the stage clear bonus if not on stage 5. So I think you'd need to gain at least 500,000 or so from 3 additional bombs for an intentional death to be worth it before the end. (Multiply all of these values by the difficulty multiplier if not playing Easy or Normal.)

Regardless, it seems it's still worth suiciding for point items during Mima's final phase, after she's dropped all her power items, since at that point it won't cost you anything unless you game over. It may also be worth suiciding at the very beginning for a free large power item, if you don't need the life later.

By the way, unlike the other Touhou games, this game actually gives you a bonus for reducing the number of starting lives (instead of just a penalty for increasing it)... which, for once, makes me disappointed that the Touhou scoring standard is to only accept scores that use default resources.

As for Marisa dropping large power items: It's happened to me a few times. I think they may appear after destroying a certain number of her familiars (similar to how some large power items in LLS, MS, and early-game EoSD appear after defeating enough enemies instead of always from the same enemy), but that's just a guess.

[Zil]

Easy - Reimu A
Zil - 15,363,150 - C - Screenshot

Easy - Reimu B
Zil - 15,767,600 - C - Screenshot

Normal - Reimu B
Zil - 14,827,340 - C - Screenshot

Yeah, I don't think it's worth it on the low difficulties. It's easy enough to get the items that you don't need to suicide for bombs. You get quite a bit anyway. That's what I did for these runs, with two suicides right at the beginning for point and power items, as well as maxing out the bomb stock. Then I suicide down to the last life against Mima after getting her power items.

And yeah, I've never seen Marisa drop more than one power item, though maybe, if you're careful to shoot her as little as possible and just destroy as many familiars as possible, you might get a few more. I doubt that's any significant source of points, but if you were super patient, and could dodge everything flawlessly, I wonder just how many might be possible. Unless the fight just ends after a while, then you couldn't do that.

[Shimatora]

Easy - Reimu A
Zil - 15,363,150 - C - Screenshot

Easy - Reimu B
Zil - 15,767,600 - C - Screenshot

Normal - Reimu B
Zil - 14,827,340 - C - Screenshot

Yeah, I don't think it's worth it on the low difficulties. It's easy enough to get the items that you don't need to suicide for bombs. You get quite a bit anyway. That's what I did for these runs, with two suicides right at the beginning for point and power items, as well as maxing out the bomb stock. Then I suicide down to the last life against Mima after getting her power items.

And yeah, I've never seen Marisa drop more than one power item, though maybe, if you're careful to shoot her as little as possible and just destroy as many familiars as possible, you might get a few more. I doubt that's any significant source of points, but if you were super patient, and could dodge everything flawlessly, I wonder just how many might be possible. Unless the fight just ends after a while, then you couldn't do that.

I consistently get 2 or 3 from Marisa, but that's about it.

[Zil]

Hard - Reimu A
Zil - 18,305,260 - C - Screenshot

So I guess I'd never actually played Hard mode before. I was expecting suicide bullets, but apparently that's just a Lunatic thing. The difference in difficulty between this and Normal is still pretty dramatic though. Some parts were even more difficult than the Lunatic version, I think. The bosses start getting really cheap.

I consistently get 2 or 3 from Marisa, but that's about it.

I didn't get any in this run. I think it may just be a random chance, like with the bomb items. Or maybe it depends on power level. I don't think I ever got one while at full power, actually.

[Karisa]

So I guess I'd never actually played Hard mode before. I was expecting suicide bullets, but apparently that's just a Lunatic thing. The difference in difficulty between this and Normal is still pretty dramatic though. Some parts were even more difficult than the Lunatic version, I think. The bosses start getting really cheap.

As far as I can tell, SoEW Hard and Lunatic are identical other than the revenge bullets and scoring (meaning there's actually no change in the bosses). If Hard seemed more difficult than Lunatic somewhere, it was likely due to rank being higher from easier stage portions.

Easy - ReimuB
Karisa - 16,912,020 - C - Replay

Also a scoring video because I don't think there are any for this game yet. See the video description for my comments. How do my strategies compare with yours, Zil?

[Zil]

That's pretty much what I've been doing, for the most part. I didn't know bombing the stage 3 midboss gave you extra enemies like that. It's true for the stage 4 midboss as well, so I think it's worth bombing that one too. Also, for those bouncing orb things in stage 3, it may actually be easier to collect the items without bombing. With ReimuB at least, you can safely sit high enough to collect items at max value, and just move left and right. Rather than dying instantly from a bomb, the enemies have some time to get closer to you before they die, so the items are less spread out. For the ones afterward that drop only power items, I think standing to one side helps them drop the items in a column. Lastly, I think you should also bomb those green blobs between the stage 4 midboss appearances, once they start making it hard to stay at the top. Assuming you have bombs to spare at that point, that is.

Oh, and I think you're right about Hard and Lunatic having the same patterns. The bosses probably seemed harder because of the rank, yeah.

I'd like to get a recording up as well, but it seems that's become impossible with this game. The settings that work with recording make all of the games play terribly, except PoDD which is improved somehow.

Edit:

Easy - Reimu B
Zil - 17,327,840 - C - Screenshot

Still full of mistakes. Maybe 18 million can be done with good execution and luck.

More editing:

Normal - Reimu A
Zil - 17,050,910 - C - Screenshot

You cannot image how many times I died in stage 4. Literally no suicides against Mima. I lost the one she gave me normally and didn't have any more to lose.

[Zil]

Easy - Reimu B
Zil - 17,327,840 - C - Screenshot

Normal - Reimu A
Zil - 17,050,910 - C - Screenshot

Extra - Reimu B
Zil - 30,493,200 - C - Screenshot

Extra - Reimu B
Zil - 33,763,870 - C - Screenshot (Turbo button was used!)

I moved the Normal and Easy scores from the previous post to this one so they're less likely to be overlooked. Submitting two scores for Extra because I'm not sure how the rapid fire thing is going to be sorted out. I decided to use it because I noticed that the high score on niconico was using some kind of rapid fire as well. I'm only about 100k away from that score (a third of a point item), by the way, so I think I'll probably beat it soon, and upload a recording. I've also learned how the clear bonus works (I think), in case anyone's interested. Still best to suicide for items, I think, provided you actually get point items and not power items.

[Karisa]

It seems the Extra clear bonus was already added to the wiki (by Arcorann) sometime after I said it wasn't. Except that part about clear time doesn't seem accurate, or at least it isn't limited to the range 0 to 10000. It was 11110 for Jaimers in this video.

[Zil]

Extra - Reimu B (Turbo)
Zil - 34,257,150 - C - Replay

Possibly the world record? And yeah, that can go above 10,000. Mine was 13,010 in this run.

[Karisa]

Lunatic - ReimuB
Karisa - 21,334,210 - C - Replay

What? I don't care for this game? Well, I saw that the SoEW Lunatic score in that MotK Touhou Hall of Records thread was actually lower than some old 1cc attempt of mine that failed on stage 4, so I felt like I had to submit an improvement. I guess I really am a compulsive scorer or something.