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Title: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 15, 2013, 03:13:09 AM
I feel like I sat down for something awesome - Far into the future, humanity has escaped the Earth, establishing giant colonies in space in a faraway corner of the galaxy - AVALON. A beautiful wonderland which offers its inhabitants to have free will, freedom to procreate, and then the freedom to consume and be human (apparently at this point, until you served in the army you are less than human, very Spartan like). The promised heaven is promised to soldiers of the Alliance, an army of insurmountable high tech mechs known as Machine Calibers fight against a superior force of aliens inhabiting this corner of space, and poses a significant and constant threat to the human communities here in Avalon. These soldiers fight to expand both human grounds and find a home planet for which they can settle down finally. The super high-tech human race that honed its rigid tech from war with the creatures of space called the Hideauze, took the fight to the aliens, only after fighting a losing battle, one escapee lost his grip while escaping with the remaining crew to safety via wormhole/warp-space technology (or for Starwars fans, a hyperdrive tunnel or some shit), and somehow ended up on Earth - after the 4th ice age.

There he meets a crew of salvagers on the now submerged Earth, a watery planet reminding me of the exact set up of sadly - Kevin Costner's Waterworld but with classy anime characters (hooray no fanservice and strongwomen at helm!) Ledo - pilot of the 'Yunboro' as named by the sea-planet inhabitants or Chamber (Machine Caliber) must choose between destroying lesser humans that emerged after his crash landing on the planet some half a year after his failed escape from the space attackers that pursued them.

Production value is equal if not higher than Shingeki no Kyoujin, has mechas, and what is most importantly - what I love most - Space the final frontier. What I like about this - it is not LETS GO BALLS OUT WITH MECHA AND SMASH SHIT UP WITH EVERYTHING.

the technology displayed from episode 1 onwards showcase some unique thinking. from what I see
- highly pinpointed laser weaponry, designed to penetrate specific points in targeted areas. *significant because every starship ever is PEW PEW PEW as much as you can.
- Floating technology - seemingly based on Mag Lev of the future.
- A giant race of space octopuses that resemble giant flowers with teeth, seemingly able to live in space, and is oblivious to radiation as well as direct contact with stars and the heat spewed from them (seeing as one seemed to be standing directly in front of one)
- Space-warp technology, reminds me of Macross Frontier.
- A Kevin Costner-ish after Earth. Inhabited by pirates and salvagers.

So anyone watching this??


EDIT
Thanks Maullar

Streaming - Now streaming on Crunchyroll (http://www.crunchyroll.com/gargantia-on-the-verdurous-planet)
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Quad City QBs on April 15, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
no fanservice

nope, not watching it

Actually, this sounds pretty cool. Starship Troopers meets time travel meets animu
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Jana on April 15, 2013, 05:38:59 AM
I watched the first two episodes with a friend and my brother today. I'll definitely follow it through the season; it's different enough from what I kind of watch to interest me!
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Solais on April 15, 2013, 06:47:33 PM
One of the animes of choice for this season. And this season is full of good stuff, a rarity that happens like once in two-three years.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Amraphenson on April 15, 2013, 07:01:20 PM
the outfits themselves
and dear god those tans
is enough fanservice for me.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Palewolf on April 15, 2013, 10:49:10 PM
I'm not exactly thrilled by mecha but i decided to give it a go because Urobuchi, it's quite interesting so far i would say.
Amy just opened quite the can of worms with that request i think.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on April 16, 2013, 12:03:52 AM
not the biggest mecha fan but I've been watching this with eagerness given that Urobuchi and Production IG are like peanut butter and chocolate for me.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Edible on April 16, 2013, 12:15:31 AM
Just saw the first ep of this.  Flat-out awesome.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 16, 2013, 03:37:16 AM
the outfits themselves
and dear god those tans
is enough fanservice for me.

Given these tanned girls are exposed at a water world under the sun... I bet their skin is all wrinkly and dry like leather anyway... I mean, have you ever seen smooth pirates? dunno if they smell like Davy Jones Locker down there

Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Quad City QBs on April 16, 2013, 04:48:59 AM
First episode was pretty cool! I still say it's more like Starship Troopers meets A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court meets Macross Frontier than it is like Star Trek, though.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 16, 2013, 05:47:31 PM
You are right, it is hardly as boring. (admittedly, it is, save for action heavy Deep Space 9 and Voyager)

In episode 2 I grow more and more liking Chamber, now this is some kick ass AI that far exceeds Jarvis. (from Ironman)
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Quad City QBs on April 16, 2013, 09:43:37 PM
Now streaming on Crunchyroll (http://www.crunchyroll.com/gargantia-on-the-verdurous-planet) if you wanna add a link to the OP.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Stuffman on April 17, 2013, 02:22:34 AM
Looks good so far. Nice character/set designs.

I'm wondering where the conflict of this show is going to come from though, since it looks like any enemy that would be non-trivial for Ledo would obliterate the rest of the cast.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Edible on April 17, 2013, 02:36:01 AM
Looks good so far. Nice character/set designs.

I'm wondering where the conflict of this show is going to come from though, since it looks like any enemy that would be non-trivial for Ledo would obliterate the rest of the cast.

With any luck it will be more of a character drama than a battle anime.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: qMyon on April 17, 2013, 11:06:35 AM
Watched the first couple of episodes, and it looks good! Putting this one on my watch-list. Lots of stuff to see this season.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 22, 2013, 06:46:32 PM
At this point I must insist on a colliding of  images from The Last Samurai - 'Do the soldiers in your country not kill?' The alien would have asked. I am afraid this 3rd episode does make it seem more and more like Star Trek, if only the clash of technology here, but also the way they forced him to fight.

Man,  I just hope he doesn't go out there convincing his commanders to make peace with the Hideauze in the last few episodes because as far as I am concerned, this is very dumb. The people on Gargantia should know better.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Stuffman on April 22, 2013, 11:34:09 PM
That was awful. My expectations for this series are greatly diminished.

There are plenty of ways they could've gone after last episode. They could've had the civilians be terrified of Ledo after seeing what he's capable of. They could've had the pirates show a sympathetic side. But nah, let's sacrifice hundreds of our crewman's lives in a battle in which the enemy fully intends to kill us instead of having Ledo vaporize them in half a second. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Edible on April 22, 2013, 11:36:07 PM
The writing went to shit in the third episode, not sure what they were thinking.

I'm going to chalk it off as a one-off since the first two episodes were so great (and the animation quality did not diminish), but... yeesh.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Stuffman on April 22, 2013, 11:42:29 PM
I'm going to chalk it off as a one-off since the first two episodes were so great (and the animation quality did not diminish), but... yeesh.

I'll give it another few episodes before I drop it, but basically my primary concern has been confirmed, they don't know how to write around Ledo being so OP.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Edible on April 22, 2013, 11:48:51 PM
I'll give it another few episodes before I drop it, but basically my primary concern has been confirmed, they don't know how to write around Ledo being so OP.

For what it's worth, ep 3 was written by someone else.  It may have been intended as filler.  At least that's what I'm hoping.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Jana on April 23, 2013, 02:40:48 AM
It seemed a little too major of an event to be filler. I'm guessing the "conflict" is going to mostly be Ledo getting over his soldier-y-ness and coping with the hippy side of Gargantia for a few episodes.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 23, 2013, 04:02:23 AM
I am afraid where all things are concerned they cannot hope to write Ledo off as being someone like... Klaatu or something, they cannot make him NOT have feelings because lol Japanese and honor and stuff, I dunno, it just seems like it had to go what was essentially typical of shows like these.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: qMyon on April 23, 2013, 01:06:28 PM
Hmm, according to Wikipedia, Gen Urobuchi (Madoka, Fate/Zero, Psycho-Pass) will be the writer for the first (probably includes the second) and the last episodes, with other episodes by others. Probably explains the writing drop-off.

If they really do make him write just the first and the last episodes, though, it could be a pretty big problem.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Edible on April 23, 2013, 01:57:01 PM
After careful consideration I have determined the following phrase is accurate for episode 3 of this show.

"Team Lesbian's blasting off agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain"
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 23, 2013, 04:54:23 PM
Right, he sets the pace for the most amazingly animated show of the season and then the others drop the ball.
way to go.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on April 23, 2013, 05:51:20 PM
It seemed a little too major of an event to be filler. I'm guessing the "conflict" is going to mostly be Ledo getting over his soldier-y-ness and coping with the hippy side of Gargantia for a few episodes.
Well, Urobuchi said he was writing this series for the youth who are facing the prospects of Japan's corporate culture, so this interpretation makes plenty of sense.

Quote from: Gen Urobuchi
"From the moment this anime was in its planning stages, one of the themes I set for it was to incorporate a message for our young people in their late teens and early twenties?in other words, those are just about to enter society, or those who have just entered society and feel lost at sea. I made a point to keep this theme in mind as I composed the story, so it has a different flavor from the many other works I've created in the past. I hope that this work will act as encouragement for all of those who are being forced to struggle hard in the harsh climate of our frozen job market."

Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Stuffman on April 23, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So I guess in that case, the show really will be about Ledo trying to adapt to a daily life when the only skill he has is blowing shit up. Hopefully the writers don't blow it and the show stays watchable.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 25, 2013, 01:04:57 PM
then we are back to being Star Trek then, because I can count a few episodes where an inhuman space borg or something gets converted into something quite, but not really human. with much the hypocrisy added into the mix, I am afraid I wasn't looking for that, but as long as this show stays on a good course, it will be watchable I guess, bearable at least.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Jana on April 28, 2013, 11:44:17 PM
This week's episode was nice. Using spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet.

Ledo and Bevel interacting is too cute.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 29, 2013, 01:25:48 AM
Well this is well written for an episode about human interactions, I like the discovery of the human emotion thing... when it is well done like this.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Edible on April 29, 2013, 02:18:29 AM
That was significantly less atrocious.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Jana on April 29, 2013, 04:17:15 AM
I thought the meeting would go
Ledo saying that someone like Bevel would have been culled and Bevel crying, but Bevel is a good and mature kid. I really liked that last half.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on April 29, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
The more I slow down each episode and listened to the background music as I go along, I can't help but make the relation between my Star Trek assessment and Gargantia, both have these seemingly ominous ochestral music at the back and frankly even the battle music sounds alike, and with episode 4 when they were talking about usefulness and relevance of a man's value when it is not at war... it really reminds me of those shows.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Amraphenson on May 05, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
Even Ledo fears them.
Nice episode.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on May 07, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
the best beach episode ever animated. shoot yourself if you don't agree.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Drake on May 07, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
I concur, best beach episode ever.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on May 08, 2013, 04:23:49 AM
When is the ED song ever coming out in full? I love it so much I repeat it over and over again.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Amraphenson on May 12, 2013, 10:25:31 PM
dat booty.
maybe it's just a squid
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on May 13, 2013, 01:08:34 AM
Fan theory time:

1. The Hideauze are actually super squid evolved in an alternate time line (remember time = space) where perhaps humans were not the pinnacle of the food chain.
2. This particular one on the earth may be an ancestor? (because it is 99.27% accurate to be Hideauze)
3. This one hitched a ride from the space portal opening that led Ledo to the earth.
4. The Hideauze armada is on its way here, sensing a distress perhaps from this particular one's death after Ledo is done with it.
5. Ledo's army commando is likely to come first and attempt to assimilate the rest of the Gargantians. Perhaps they may even declare the planet theirs and Ledo will be left to struggle and choose a side to pledge his allegiance to.
6. GASP! The Hideauze are the good guys!
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Amraphenson on June 03, 2013, 06:05:00 AM
Well fuck.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Jana on June 03, 2013, 06:11:45 AM
Who called it? (Spoilers like MAD) (http://i.imgur.com/oomH3pF.jpg)
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Drake on June 03, 2013, 10:12:03 AM
That was a really good exploration of what everyone had already imagined would be the clincher. Dayum.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Fetch()tirade on June 03, 2013, 02:32:19 PM
REMOVE HIDEAUZE (http://i.imgur.com/rOmvo2t.jpg)

Now we wait to figure out which side Ledo picks.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: wailofthebanshee on June 03, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
HUMANITY FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on June 04, 2013, 05:08:44 PM
I have a sudden impulse to become Hideauze.
seriously look at the pros:

1. massive space squid able to travel to space without so much as wearing a suit
2. bio luminescence
3. strength able to sink ships and even crush some kinda future alloy made of super metal combinations or some shit
4. lives near the fucking sun
5. can easily outlive anything

I may look like a fucking squid but hell yeah I am a super space squid
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: wailofthebanshee on June 05, 2013, 05:54:30 PM
There's also no guarantee (yet, at least) if you'd actually retain any kind of intelligence and instead become part of some kind of hivemind.
In other words, HUMANITY FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Amraphenson on June 09, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Woah.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Bardiche on June 09, 2013, 10:37:21 PM
Pinion is such an ass.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: Drake on June 10, 2013, 09:29:35 AM
There's also no guarantee (yet, at least) if you'd actually retain any kind of intelligence and instead become part of some kind of hivemind.
QUESTION ANSWERED


Man these developments are huge. Mind explosions errywhere.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: wailofthebanshee on June 10, 2013, 03:31:47 PM
Did Kugel just brainwash a bunch of people into worshipping his machine caliber or what was the deal with those cultists at the end.
Although it could also be that they genuinely think that thing is a god.
Title: Re: Suisei no Gargantia - Star Trek - the anime?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on June 10, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
This show must be secretly directed and produced by M Night Shaymalan