Author Topic: Red versus Blue - Day 8 - Game Over (Read 17250 times)

capt. h · « **Reply #60 on:** January 12, 2013, 03:35:45 AM »

Players have 1 hour, 24 minutes to submit today's orders.

capt. h · « **Reply #61 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:00:29 AM »

No more orders are being accepted for day 2. Day 3 discussion begins now. Day 3 results will be posted momentarily. Day 3 ends in 24 hours and midnight EST.

capt. h · « **Reply #62 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:05:37 AM »

All PMs have been sent out. It is now day 3. Day 3 ends in 23 hours, 54 minutes at midnight EST.

8 red
6 blue

I have no name · « **Reply #63 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:06:40 AM »

Quote from: I have no name on January 12, 2013, 03:12:16 AM

If everyone targets me, I'm
Spoiler:
TBD
and I target
Spoiler:
someone
that's enough information to set things up in such a way so that everyone is one color in 2 more days.

Then everyone wins, right?

Repeating this idea. Let's do it.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #64 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:08:24 AM »

A game is no fun without losers.

I have no name · « **Reply #65 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:10:51 AM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on January 12, 2013, 05:08:24 AM

A game is no fun without losers.

The objective is to win.
If everyone wins, you have a 100% chance of winning.
If anyone loses, that chance decreases.

Therefore, working together to have one side win is the best strategy as it gives you the highest chance of winning.

PX · « **Reply #66 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:11:10 AM »

Target myself

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #67 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:12:55 AM »

A game where everyone wins is boring.

I have no name · « **Reply #68 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:19:35 AM »

A game which relies on mostly luck is unfun.

That's why I started on a strategy.
You are going against a strategy that guarantees your win, and thus are not playing to your wincon. and that's not a good thing.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #69 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:23:42 AM »

How can you even call it a win if there is no loss?

I have no name · « **Reply #70 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:30:37 AM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on January 12, 2013, 05:23:42 AM

How can you even call it a win if there is no loss?

So does this mean Break the Safe can't be won?

Quote

The game is lost if and only if time runs out

It's not a true everyone wins or no one wins game, but we can make it so that everyone wins. Unless of course, you want there to be a loser, in which case that can be arranged too :V

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #71 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:33:53 AM »

people who want to break the game or arrange a global win are the worst and i refuse to cooperate with them

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #72 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:34:24 AM »

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #73 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:34:44 AM »

think of it this way, don't you want the satisfaction of having WRECKED the opposite faction

I have no name · « **Reply #74 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:40:04 AM »

Quote from: hopeless wasquerade on January 12, 2013, 05:34:44 AM

think of it this way, don't you want the satisfaction of having WRECKED the opposite faction

Completely annhilating the opposite faction is doing that :V

Prody · « **Reply #75 on:** January 12, 2013, 06:21:49 AM »

Red vs blue? More like people who want all winners vs people who play

I'm on the latter's side, by the way, everyone claim your positions

I have no name · « **Reply #76 on:** January 12, 2013, 06:37:00 AM »

Need I remind you that you try to win games, and I have outlined a foolproof method to win.

Shizumarashi Mayuzumi · « **Reply #77 on:** January 12, 2013, 06:45:32 AM »

I'm on people who play side. :3

I have no name · « **Reply #78 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:00:35 AM »

Well, my suggestion IS playing-just treating it as cooperative instead of competitive.

Oh, and "wanting all winners" is "wanting to win and the best way to do that is to have as many people win as possible, and everyone can win so that gives the best odds, i.e. 100%", and as it does involve playing the game,

Quote from: Prody on January 12, 2013, 06:21:49 AM

people who want all winners vs people who play

is completely missing the point and completely useless besides.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #79 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:01:34 AM »

IHNN is blue and mad because he's losing

I have no name · « **Reply #80 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:06:47 AM »

Quote from: me from D2 during a tie

Here's an idea.

You're taking me trying to lead this game to universal victory/being active as me being mad about losing?

Prody · « **Reply #81 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:09:49 AM »

Quote from: I have no name on January 12, 2013, 07:00:35 AM

is completely missing the point and completely useless besides.

is proving my point of the existence of two such sides

Quote from: I have no name on January 12, 2013, 07:06:47 AM

You're taking me trying to lead this game to universal victory/being active as me being mad about losing?

nobody's asking you! finding someone who supports you would be a better start, though

PX · « **Reply #82 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:12:52 AM »

I did suggest that everyone basically claim colors, then we finish this in a day. Nobody responded, so switch to plan B: Be on the winning side when this ends because people don't like talking

I have no name · « **Reply #83 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:16:53 AM »

Quote from: Prody on January 12, 2013, 07:09:49 AM

nobody's asking you

nobody's asking anyone.

Quote from: Prody on January 12, 2013, 07:09:49 AM

finding someone who supports you would be a better start, though

Hence "trying" and also "putting the idea out there".

Oh and discussion > no discussion so I did anyways :V

Quote from: PX on January 12, 2013, 07:12:52 AM

people don't like talking

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Though PX your plan has a small problem. Those on the losing side still get a shot in. That shot will have a very high chance of converting, putting us in idk, 8-6 reversed, giving those on the BLUE team 100% chance of being in the lead, and those on the RED team ~30%. I can't see anyone on the red team agreeing with that plan after 5 seconds of thought.

PX · « **Reply #84 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:22:27 AM »

You do realize that just because targeting yourself does nothing, doesn't mean you can't target yourself :V

Prody · « **Reply #85 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:48:14 AM »

Quote from: I have no name on January 12, 2013, 07:16:53 AM

Hence "trying" and also "putting the idea out there".

Calling people useless and criticizing how they want to play the game is the direct opposite. Getting the cooperation of everyone is very difficult, good effort trying but I can say you already screwed up for me.

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #86 on:** January 12, 2013, 01:33:18 PM »

I shall use my sword
Who is with me
Shit Dormio is in game

capt. h · « **Reply #87 on:** January 12, 2013, 02:34:21 PM »

Self targetting is technically the same as not submitting any order at all. Neglecting to submit orders is not encouraged. (See rule 2)

You have 14 hours, 18 minutes to submit orders before midnight EST and the start of day 4.

PX · « **Reply #88 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:21:58 PM »

Quote from: [Y]oukai {J}esus on January 12, 2013, 01:33:18 PM

I shall use my sword
Who is with me
Shit Dormio is in game

You sir, fail at haikus

I have no name · « **Reply #89 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:56:27 PM »

Quote from: Prody on January 12, 2013, 07:48:14 AM

Calling people useless and criticizing how they want to play the game

I called the particular line useless, not the person.
I have seen a good strategy that is objectively better for winning the game, of course I'm going to be critical of any other strategy. Of course, I view it as constructive criticism, but I see how it wouldn't come across that way.