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Title: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 01, 2015, 05:11:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Mvtrn.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because then you will be feeding the mighty Juggler-empire lead by the Dark Lord YamaP and his army of really good artists.)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to even lowlier dragons to ridiculously powerful beasts like Awoken Anubis (above).  They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

Real talk though, the real reason to get into this game is because everyone else here is playing it and has been playing non-stop for the past 2 years :V , and probably won't stop for a long time thanks to the constant updates to the game and its mechanics, balance changes that never directly nerf anything and are mostly focused on increasing the viability of older monsters, and of course the endless addition of new monsters and collabs that are dished out on a regular basis.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here:

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a god).  Great starters include any of the Chinese gods, Ares, Bastet, Isis, Idunn & Idunna, Lu Bu, Zhuge Liang, Odin, Kali, Shiva, Sonia, and many others.  Feel free to ask!

If you need more help or just want to discuss the game, we also have a P&D channel on the MotK IRC network in here. Just type your name and go.
For those using IRC clients other than webchat, the channel is #puzzleandlibrarians on irc.ppirc.net.


List of friends + Main Leaders:
Edible: 328,945,274 (Ronia*, Bastet)
hyorinryu: 357.646.299 (Sakuya, Perseus)
Suikama: 348.941.282 (Isis*, Nut*/Ronia/Athena/Whatever)
triangles: 322.456.235 (LMeta*, Santa Sakuya)
Chaore: 344,844,286 (Verdandi, Shiva)
Yukarin: 394.177.213 (Haku*, LKali*)
Jq1790: 396,049,294 (Athena, B/G Karin)
Pesco: 328 276 294 (Rodin, Ronia)
Dibble: 314,673,283 (Isis, GOdin)
Matsuri: 358,689,277 (Awoken Parvati*, Pandora)
Fast Fanatic: 359,184,275 (TAMADRAPurin*, Beelzebub*)
Sacchi Hikaru: 385,394,297 (Horus, GZL)
rdj: 338,277,280 (AA Lucifer, Athena)
Chirei: 326,404,383 (Leilan*, Skuld*)
commandercool: 312,728,337 (Reine*, Gabriel*)
Aoshi: 398,822,333 (LMeta, I&I)
Conqueror: 331,616,320 (DQXQ, I&I)
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268 (Athena, LMeta*)
Dorakyura: 347,957,300 (Nepthys)
Bio: 336,681,244 (Sakuya, Athena)
En: 351,629,319 (Lu Bu*, Haku)
moekou: 329,066,242 (Osiris*, Pandora)
Espadas: 301,335,377 (Ronia, B/G Karin)

(Asterisk next to leaders means "hypermax" - +297, max skill)

Topic Archive
Thread I (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Thread II (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Thread III (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
Thread IV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15728.0.html)
Thread V (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16090.0.html)
Thread VI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16209.0.html)
Thread VII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16326.0.html)
Thread VIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16604.0.html)
Thread IX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16767.0.html)
Thread X (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17002.0.html)
Thread XI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17175.0.html)
Thread XII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17337.0.html)
Thread XIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17483.0.html)
Thread XIV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17582.0.html)
Thread XV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17678.0.html)
Thread XVI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17748.0.html)
Thread XVII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17904.0.html)
Thread XVIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=18079.0)
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Thread XX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18335.0.html)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 01, 2015, 05:24:43 PM
Holy shit we're on thread 21 already? We burn through these things fast.

Oh yeah and my Horus Team officially cannot do satan descended because I suck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 01, 2015, 05:51:35 PM
You forgot my ID in the list: 301.335.377 (Ronia, B/G Karin, GOdin and soon Kirin)

Speaking about Awoken Anubis and "ridiculously powerful", what is the highest burst multiplier that he can reach now? 1200x?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 01, 2015, 05:57:51 PM
You forgot my ID in the list: 301.335.377 (Ronia, B/G Karin, GOdin and soon Kirin)

Speaking about Awoken Anubis and "ridiculously powerful", what is the highest burst multiplier that he can reach now? 1200x?
Let's see...10*10*2*2*3(for some sort of 3x booster?)  Yup!  1200X!  Anubis destroyer of worlds.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 01, 2015, 06:01:35 PM
Got my 350-day stones this morning (for a total of seven free stones, ha). Thought about doing a pull, but I'd rather have 50 or so more +eggs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 01, 2015, 06:02:26 PM
I am sure somebody is going to do numbers so large with that multiplier the game itself can't handle it and ends up crashing. That or your phone just goes "nope, i'm done with numbers" and explodes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 01, 2015, 06:14:14 PM
They seriously are going to need to fix the numbers anyway. You can barely read them *now* as it is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 01, 2015, 06:21:05 PM
Awoken Mothafuckin' Anubis does not play.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 01, 2015, 06:32:55 PM
Awoken Mothafuckin' Anubis is not played.

fix't
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 01, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
I think I forgot to point this out in the topic, but since people have made mention of DKali's mini-shiva, did you also notice that he's riding Vritra as well?

fix't

You just wait, mister.  One True God will not be denied.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 01, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
They seriously are going to need to fix the numbers anyway. You can barely read them *now* as it is.

Big numbers you say?

Think about this: double A.Anubis team attacking with 1200x, then you have to add the fact that is a 10+ combo ...... against a Light boss :V

KISS YOUR PHONE GOODBYE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 01, 2015, 08:43:42 PM
I think I've asked this before, but does anyone have any success stories of farming (like consistently, we've all had occasional lucky runs) in Mechdragon's Massive Fortress for +eggs? I just did four runs to break up my farming, and got the same consistent 1.5 eggs per run I've always gotten. I don't know why people like this dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 01, 2015, 08:45:53 PM
I like it because it also provides me with fodder for snowglobes/new puzzlemon to level them up at the same time as egg farming.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 01, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
How many eggs did you get? And which floor do you use?

It's not even great for monster food in my opinion because the drops are so low-level. Spoiled by alt dungeons I guess. And Door Of Light And Shadow usually drops a handful of metal kings in a day of farming, so it doesn't quite give no experience.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 01, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
I'm too afraid of alt dungeons so that's out for me, I do whatever floor matches the color I'm gunning for at the moment.  I did really well today (I didn't keep track, but probably 2.x cause I had one round with 4 eggs) but then again I am pretty bad at this game and don't optimize so eh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 01, 2015, 09:53:57 PM
I haven't gone all spreadsheet hero on it but I tend to get decent rates, not as good as alt dungeons but This did happen to me.

(http://i.imgur.com/8X8gPVrl.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 01, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
The reason I prefer mechdragons is because you have a decent drop rate combined with decent feed (not incredible, but okay) for much better rank EXP than Forbidden Tower offers. Also much less tedious. I basically run Mechdragons in between running alts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 01, 2015, 10:37:03 PM
oh yeah godfest yolos

mermaid
gamble mage

pls


oh well karin isnt even in this godfest so whatever
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Sapz on June 01, 2015, 10:43:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/l4tXaQX.jpg)

...I don't think Haku understands how clothes work. Looking forward to this nonetheless, but I now have the dilemma of choosing between devil Haku sub and Awoken Haku lead. D:

Anywho, godfest rolls:

1. Chaos Dragon Knight
2. Ruka

rem pls ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 01, 2015, 10:56:00 PM
Just because I feel like it: have a chronological collection of all of the pictures we all chose to feature for each thread to date! I thought it'd be kind of neat to see a brief history of what we were hyped about over the time we've been playing.

Thread 1: April 25, 2013 - Bastet
(http://i.imgur.com/zdl4PRq.jpg)

Thread 2: June 29, 2013 - Idunn&Idunna
(http://i.imgur.com/h23FHSj.png)

Thread 3: August 18, 2013 - Karin
(http://i.imgur.com/gXK3QXT.jpg)

Thread 4: October 16, 2013 - Ame no Uzume
(http://i.imgur.com/QBSJzGl.jpg)

Thread 5: December 30, 2013 - Isis
(http://i.imgur.com/2yHbFTK.jpgp)

Thread 6:  January 24, 2014 - Chiyome
(http://i.imgur.com/ITL7aLT.jpg)

Thread 7: February 15, 2014 - Sakuya
(http://i.imgur.com/kIVCXKg.jpg?1?9126)

Thread 8: March 19, 2014 - Lu Bu
(http://i.imgur.com/ELEOQes.jpg)

Thread 9: April 22, 2014 - Meimei
(http://i.imgur.com/JJ9JQax.jpg)

Thread 10: June 15, 2014 - Vegeta
(http://i.imgur.com/vOa2kRB.png)

Thread 11: July 29, 2014 - Batman (broken image, I'm pretty sure this was the one though)
(http://i.imgur.com/Fngbp7N.jpg)

Thread 12: September 6, 2014 - Mephistopheles
(http://i.imgur.com/Use33Qj.jpg)

Thread 13: October 6, 2014 - Kali
(http://i.imgur.com/reuw1rh.jpg)

Thread 14: November 3, 2014 - Hathor
(http://i.imgur.com/cdv1t6u.png)

Thread 15: November 24, 2014 - Skuld
(http://i.imgur.com/p5GEiBO.jpg)

Thread 16: December 17, 2014 - Verdandi
(http://i.imgur.com/UXW5fXU.jpg)

Thread 17: January 21, 2015 - Reine
(http://i.imgur.com/psocBVF.png)

Thread 18: February 26, 2015 - Mario and Luigi
(http://i.imgur.com/ZbhR9lz.jpg)

Thread 19: March 24, 2015 - Awoken Bastet
(http://i.imgur.com/IzPHrIa.jpg)

Thread 20: April 21, 2015 - Extreme King Metal Tamadra
(http://i.imgur.com/vx7QZfE.jpg)

Thread 21: June 1, 2015 - Awoken Anubis
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Mvtrn.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 01, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
no one was hyped for urd

rip urd 2k15

Another more interesting thing I thought I'd throw in, a thread lasts roughly a month!

The longest lived thread was the first one, lasting approximately two and a half months.

The shortest lived thread was the 14th thread, lasting a mere 21 days! Sorry Hathor, but you were too close to the new world order to survive any longer than that.

also mei hype didn't start at the beginning of may, fail
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 01, 2015, 11:22:57 PM
I think i had changing pictures when i did thread 6, but i couldn't remember which tbh ;; also yeah it was shockfist bats
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 01, 2015, 11:27:17 PM
oh yeah Reine hypermaxed

so now I have 3 hypermaxed and enough +eggs for a 4th (unfortunately they're spread around and I cant fuse them together because I'd go over 99 in some areas)

the hypermax Isis team dream is real

(I just need karin :<)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 01, 2015, 11:27:43 PM
I remember thread 7 changed quite a few times, not sure about the others though.

"Kirin is literally the best god edition" my how times have changed  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 01, 2015, 11:30:18 PM
oh yeah Reine hypermaxed

Oh shiiiiit Reine buddies.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 01, 2015, 11:33:41 PM
I remember thread 7 changed quite a few times, not sure about the others though.

"Kirin is literally the best god edition" my how times have changed  :V
If there's one good thing about gungho, it's that they update their game a LOT
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 01, 2015, 11:46:35 PM
[18:41:28] <~rdj522> Chaore I must shake you down for bun magic
[18:41:42] <jq1790> Uh-oh, what're you doing now?
[18:42:02] <~rdj522> Something that's actually really easy, I'm just looking for a thing and may not see a spawn.
[18:44:40] <Chaore> rdj: you shall be blessed
[18:44:52] <Chaore> but only if you chant 'all hail our lord and savior mei' in thread

ALL HAIL OUR LORD AND SAVIOR MEI never mind bun magic is fake, Lucifer4lyfe >:(

(http://i.imgur.com/rGF9Owel.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rGF9Owe.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 02, 2015, 12:02:50 AM
your blaphsmephy has cursed you

may only seals come your way
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 02, 2015, 12:12:11 AM
Awoken Isis' shield is only 15%

dammit trance y u lie to me :((((


also gungho pls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 02, 2015, 12:24:20 AM
Awoken Isis' shield is only 15%

dammit trance y u lie to me :((((


also gungho pls

It's a shield on top of a bind resist, on a 3-turn cooldown.

I mean, I think 15% is pretty fair when you think about all of that, especially since using it also gives you bonus damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 02, 2015, 12:37:22 AM
i wanted the throne though

i wanted to feel like i was number one

;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 02, 2015, 01:20:06 AM
It's a shield on top of a bind resist, on a 3-turn cooldown.

I mean, I think 15% is pretty fair when you think about all of that, especially since using it also gives you bonus damage.

It's weaker than Armor Break, of all things, and everyone and their mother uses Baggi in JP which is 30% for five turns. Isis shield definitely needs a buff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 02, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
what I'm most butthurt about is gungho seems to always feel the need to shaft Isis in some way

meanwhile OH RA CAN HIT 100x WITH ONE ACTIVE THAT'S TOTALLY FINE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 02:10:39 AM
There is always the option of

you know

using someone else
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Bio on June 02, 2015, 02:14:26 AM
that would be unfaithful
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 02, 2015, 02:18:02 AM
that's like telling chirei to main not!leilan or me to main not!horus or ffanatic to main not!beelzebub or cmdcool to main not!gabriel

it's sheer blasphemy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 02, 2015, 02:22:57 AM
that's like telling me to main not!tyrannos
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 02, 2015, 02:24:02 AM
what I'm most butthurt about is gungho seems to always feel the need to shaft Isis in some way

meanwhile OH RA CAN HIT 100x WITH ONE ACTIVE THAT'S TOTALLY FINE

tbh she's got even more ease of use than before, and has a homefield advantage in being able to mass blue incredibly easily -and- use the five elements gods

she's still very strong imo they just kinda piledrived the more traditional style she had
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 02, 2015, 02:26:28 AM
that's like telling me to main not!tyrannos

I WILL MAKE THIS GUY WORK SOMEDAY

HE WILL BE BETTER THAN EVERY REM MONSTER OUT THERE YOU GUYS SHALL SEEEEEEEEEEEE

(as soon as gungho decides to give him a new active and actually-good ult even though R/B was already a pretty good start)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 02, 2015, 02:51:07 AM
oh yes she's great now and it's basically trivial to hit for millions of damage now compared to like Bastet who has to match a 7 combo on top of making as many green TPAs as possible

but i wanted her to be the clear best leader in the game for once best girl deserves to be the best

oh well
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 02, 2015, 03:26:14 AM
So!  Karin/Skuld BFFs, totally canon.

I forgot to screencap it, so I'll just have to repeat this when the real dungeon pops back up, but...

Guess who just joined the Beelzebub crew!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 02, 2015, 03:31:22 AM
holy shit ult tengu

this would have been the ultimate sub for me...

like over a year ago >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2015, 03:39:47 AM
(as soon as gungho decides to give him a new active and actually-good ult even though R/B was already a pretty good start)

well he costs 15 so I just used him for Xuanzang. :derp:

meanwhile OH RA CAN HIT 100x WITH ONE ACTIVE THAT'S TOTALLY FINE

you need to match all 5 goddamn colors, Suikama pls.

Isis is way easier, only need to match ANY 3. It's not even a specific 3 like the Chinese Gods. It's any 3.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 03:50:13 AM
that's like telling chirei to main not!leilan or me to main not!horus or ffanatic to main not!beelzebub or cmdcool to main not!gabriel

it's sheer blasphemy

it's sheer stubbornness

(and furthermore half of the people you mentioned there have more than one main they use on a near daily basis)

I mean like shit I love Venus to pieces and she's still my favorite PAD character but I can't deny that her awoken form is pretty lackluster compared to the others just because light rows is such a painfully specific and heavily REM category

so I use her as a sub and she pulls her weight that way while maining a decent assortment of leads for handling different things

being adaptable is not a bad thing. Rigidly sticking to a tunnel vision viewpoint and complaining when your one focus doesn't work in every last situation ever is the opposite of that.


And for real, "feeling like you're number one" is moot when we have people here who have shown that even leaders who are looked down upon at this point of the game for being suboptimal (for example, Chirei with R/G Leilan or rdj with Lucifer) can do incredible stuff with the right strategies and capable hands.

And let's be real-- if a 12.25x leader can handle pretty much every dungeon with the right strategy, so can a 20.25x lead.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 02, 2015, 04:46:11 AM
to be fair, Venus is getting a 2-row, unbindable 2x-light-enhance in the way of Pompompurin's ult.

Venus herself has three rows so I doubt she really needs anything beyond Apollo and some Wu Kong action.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2015, 04:50:29 AM
to be fair, Venus is getting a 2-row, unbindable 2x-light-enhance in the way of Pompompurin's ult.

Venus herself has three rows so I doubt she really needs anything beyond Apollo and some Wu Kong action.

i think Matsy's point was that Light row teams are all Awoken Venus is ever going to be a staple on, and she has little applications in other Light teams.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 04:58:49 AM
Not quite. What I mean is that she needs a very painfully specific setup to be even remotely effective as a leader in today's meta wherein most of her needed subs are REM-only. If not, she's stuck with a mere and petty 6.25x damage ceiling. She's not even CLOSE to being as useful or versatile as the other four awoken Greek gods because they pigeonholed her into doing doing light rows, which is a tremendously narrow field because most of the ideal light units use TPAs over rows.

What I DO use her for, however, is as a sub, especially for my combo/matching teams-- especially LKali. Using her active not only enhances my light orbs, but ensures that I can fit in as many TPAs as possible while still pulling off Kali's x36 combo, which is obviously way, way better than what Venus can do with 6.25 and rows (I've even run Venus as a lead with an LKali friend and still managed to do over a million damage with Kali alone using just 10x (this was pre-ult LKali)).

She's not my leader material, but she definitely has a niche on a lot of my teams. She may even have a role in my future Anubis team, despite not being dark.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 02, 2015, 07:20:47 AM
>chirei got verdandi
Oh goddd damnnnb the saaaaallttt ;www; plsss whyyyyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2015, 07:39:20 AM
>chirei got verdandi
Oh goddd damnnnb the saaaaallttt ;www; plsss whyyyyyy

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGdEV1zUQAABbcK.png)

look who i got after my 4th dmeta from the rank 150 gacha pull
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 02, 2015, 11:11:00 AM
Datamined by one of the PDX mods on EU after 7.8.1:

-New Batman BGM is in
-PADAcademy stuff is in

NA and other regions soon to follow; we're about to get hit hard guys.

EDIT: NEW SB2 STUFF ALSO IN EU

EDIT MK-II: Typhon and co. also in EU data
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2015, 12:14:17 PM
Datamined by one of the PDX mods on EU after 7.8.1:

based unknown_pc o/

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 02, 2015, 12:17:17 PM
-New Batman BGM is in

fuck

Quote
-PADAcademy stuff is in

fuck

Quote
EDIT: NEW SB2 STUFF ALSO IN EU

fuuuuuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 02, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
More stuff from Unknown_PC:

New Batman Music files(.rar)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0n1s5jbmqo52iqk/bgm_eu_781_new_bat.rar?dl=0

New Batman Assets

(http://i.imgur.com/Gl7ehLx.jpg)

(holy shit am I posting new updates ahead of JP for once? what a strange fuckin' world)

fuuuuuck

sums up about how i feel, yes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2015, 12:40:44 PM
EU also has Awoken Shiver

unfortunately it is literally impossible to get him in EU
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 02, 2015, 12:52:09 PM
EU also has Awoken Shiver

unfortunately it is literally impossible to get him in EU

Do you mean the data is in there but his uevo isn't active?  That's pretty normal
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2015, 12:57:12 PM
Do you mean the data is in there but his uevo isn't active?  That's pretty normal

EU does not have Grimoires Descended! yet so even if his uevo was active you couldn't get him
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 02, 2015, 01:17:03 PM
EU does not have Grimoires Descended! yet so even if his uevo was active you couldn't get him

Huh.  I wonder how far behind their descends a-

>cauchemar debuted on may 28

Oh my god.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 01:23:01 PM
If EU has all that, then we probably will see it in a couple weeks too. Now I REALLY feel stupid for blowing stones on PCGF.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 01:38:57 PM
 HOLY SHIT NEVER MIND HUGE UPDATE INCOMING. INTERFACE UPDATES, BEST FRIENDS UPDATES, FUSION/EVO UPDATES, CONDITIONAL DUNGEON UPDATES, AND ULT GOEMON COMING (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=326)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 02, 2015, 01:40:59 PM
HOLY SHIT NEVER MIND HUGE UPDATE INCOMING. INTERFACE UPDATES, BEST FRIENDS UPDATES, FUSION/EVO UPDATES, CONDITIONAL DUNGEON UPDATES, AND ULT GOEMON COMING (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=326)

All this stuff is being pushed in anticipation for Batman etc, since I think the "haste" actives require a new update and such.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2015, 01:41:15 PM
HOLY SHIT NEVER MIND HUGE UPDATE INCOMING. INTERFACE UPDATES, BEST FRIENDS UPDATES, FUSION/EVO UPDATES, CONDITIONAL DUNGEON UPDATES, AND ULT GOEMON COMING (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=326)

yes that is in fact the 7.8.1 update, NA/EU are getting all the missed stuff at once and are now only 1 month behind JP in client updates
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 02, 2015, 01:45:48 PM
-PADAcademy stuff is in
oh

Now I REALLY feel stupid for blowing stones on PCGF.
basically this

although i did do it again and got pandora so eh

yes that is in fact the 7.8.1 update, NA/EU are getting all the missed stuff at once and are now only 1 month behind JP in client updates
i hope they can actually stay this way now, because iirc they got pretty close to catching up before as well but then they got lazy or something and fell way behind
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 02:11:09 PM
Yeah, I'm super pleased with actually being somewhat caught up for once. Hopefully we can stay on track at a steady month behind from here on. I won't complain about that.

(Though now they really need to get going on descends. Sonia Gran was in fucking January and it's fucking JUNE here now.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 02, 2015, 02:14:31 PM
4 month -> 6 month descend gap

Hilarious.  At least we're not pad EU, I guess ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 02, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
That is indeed quite the silly delay but oh man oh man the subtypes working for restrictions and streamlining the ult evo stuff :*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 02:45:52 PM
4 month -> 6 month descend gap

Hilarious.  At least we're not pad EU, I guess ;_;

They have the excuse of starting a year later than us, so naturally they'd be still getting biweeklies and descends at the pace they were released originally.

NA has no such excuse; we've been more or less stagnant for most of this year up until the few jumps we've made in the past few weeks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 02, 2015, 02:50:53 PM
No Ra? Oh well. Rest of that stuff sounds cool, and we wouldn't be able to use him anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 04:31:03 PM
We're so stupid far behind on descends they would have to rush all the old ones just to get us Sphinx and you and I know that will never happen :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 02, 2015, 04:33:34 PM
We're so stupid far behind on descends they would have to rush all the old ones just to get us Sphinx and you and I know that will never happen :v

It's far more likely that we get sphinx early.

Speaking of Sphinx, I need to set aside some food for him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 02, 2015, 04:49:44 PM
Got my Sphinx food, my Ra pre-awoken, and three Shynpys ready to go. Ra's only +130 though, so if I had to have more time to keep working on him (and get another Shynpy, I think?) it wouldn't bother me too much.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 02, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
I blew all my woodpys on parvati, since a.bastet's skill isn't really great.  +297 bastet is happening, but not gonna max skill her unless a skillup for her rolls around.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 02, 2015, 05:08:46 PM
I blew all my woodpys on parvati, since a.bastet's skill isn't really great.  +297 bastet is happening, but not gonna max skill her unless a skillup for her rolls around.

okay okay

don't do that, because a. bastet's skill is actually good. Time extension is actually really useful, especially for time debuffs- and more importantly, it's quick, which is pretty vital for bastet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 02, 2015, 05:14:28 PM
It's good, don't get me wrong, it's just not something I'd spend pys on while I still have better things to spend pys on

I only need one more for parvati, after that we'll see.

(My potential a.bastet team has 6 Extend Time awakenings on it anyway, 8 if I throw Wee Jas into the optional slot)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 02, 2015, 05:18:07 PM
A. Bastet's AS is activate my leader skill which is very very important and you really do need that 5cd for intense dungeons like lv8+ dungeons.
Time extend is super useful for getting out of blind boards with a quick swipe and then still have extra seconds to make something decent (5-6c) quick.
All-Out attack is still extremely situational and is pretty much moot nowadays when you're doing TPAs all the time, only exception is the Py floors when NA gets the one-time challenge dungeons.

But since you're probably using that parvati on your bastet team, I do agree it's of higher priority to max skill parvati, but do considering maxing bastet when you have spare wood pys :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 02, 2015, 05:25:44 PM
I need one more py to finish off Parvati, which I can easily get next time Challenge Descended 3 comes out. Ra, I'm going to need more shynpy for. Hopefully I can score some there as well.

EDIT:
[15:37:29] <Matsuri> ...amazing.
[15:37:33] <Matsuri> I just beat Mephisto.
[15:37:40] <Matsuri> A no-RCV dungeon.
[15:37:45] <Matsuri> With Parvati.


She strikes again. A shame this wasn't the actual dungeon, so I didn't get a stone for it. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 02, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
Mephistopheles is one of the few dungeons I've never beaten. I should give it a go with Verdandi later. I think I only tried it once months ago because I'm kind of scared of it, but I don't remember there being anything one Dandi build or another can't handle.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 02, 2015, 08:53:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VMwr9adl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/VMwr9ad.jpg)

Still no sweet shooting. Is wanting five of you to level-99-ult-evo-skillup the one I already have so much to ask ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 03, 2015, 12:44:25 AM
holy sweet jesus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alhWTNUTYlQ)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 03, 2015, 12:47:21 AM
Disclaimer/notes about the Best Friend System since it's coming soon and some people are probably thinking about it/don't know all the details!

-You only get one selection, unless a reset is announced, much like the Present Egg Machine.
-By proxy due to the above, you may have multiple Best Friends.

-You and another person do not have to add each other to recieve the full effects on both ends. If you both add each other, someone's will be wasted. Try to form an agreement beforehand if you can to avoid this situation.

-If a Best Friend ditches, quits, goes on hiatus, deletes you, or any other event that would prevent you from seeing them log in for extended periods of time, then too bad - that selection was just wasted. Choose carefully!

Benefits:

-100 Pal Points when you use them instead of 10.
-You can see their super secret third team slot.
-You may use any of their three leaders infinitely as long as they've logged in at least once for that day.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 03, 2015, 01:10:37 AM
Okay Awoken Isis' damage is fine, lol 2 million damage PER ISIS (https://youtu.be/UzeO6rnYoGY?t=5m47s)

best girl lets go
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 03, 2015, 01:11:02 AM
Disclaimer/notes about the Best Friend System since it's coming soon and some people are probably thinking about it/don't know all the details!

Also on the reset- YamaP originally announced this due to jp community having trouble choosing people, in short, due to the community's confusion about the system.

We have no idea how Gungho NA will handle the same situation, or when it will happen. There is a fair chance that we will not be promised a reset anytime soon.

Please be careful with your choices!

by which i mean submit to your rabbit overlord
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 03, 2015, 01:19:56 AM
does anyone know if there's a change that super Goemon will even get a skillup

cause if not then i'mma just dump all my red pys on him. got no one else to use them on cept maybe hino who isn't a leader and i want something to set stupid wood types on fire
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 03, 2015, 01:23:57 AM
does anyone know if there's a change that super Goemon will even get a skillup

Hera-ur's uevo did, so there's definitely a chance.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 03, 2015, 02:34:06 AM
One last hurrah to TEC before it gets relocated and dethroned as the hardest EC in NA.

(http://i.imgur.com/SoW3Ybb.png) (http://i.imgur.com/20KxzJt.png) (http://i.imgur.com/OEnRjoj.png)

The team wasn't even max leveled or awakened. too fuggin op
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 03, 2015, 03:06:24 AM
bluh I guess I'll give it one last shot

might as well give skuld a spin

also Awoken Isis' damage is real (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUc8c20gVbw) (35-50 million burst :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 03, 2015, 03:38:12 AM
i lost to satan

again

for the like 12032039th time

forget it

just forget it


seriously i swear endless satan has twice as much hp or something I JUST CANT KILL HIM but normal satan is ez
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 03, 2015, 03:52:10 AM
i lost to satan

again

for the like 12032039th time

forget it

just forget it


seriously i swear endless satan has twice as much hp or something I JUST CANT KILL HIM but normal satan is ez

Same exact Satan. The only difference is that this isn't No RCV.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 03, 2015, 04:02:41 AM
KR's update was postponed. (http://pad.neocyon.com/W/notice/view.aspx?id=398) I'm assuming it's to do with Android again.

If it affects NA's update schedule as well, I'm hoping people will actually be patient this time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 03, 2015, 04:04:09 AM
Same exact Satan. The only difference is that this isn't No RCV.
oh i hadn't thought of that :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 03, 2015, 04:28:41 AM
It's good, don't get me wrong, it's just not something I'd spend pys on while I still have better things to spend pys on

use your woodpy on a.parvati and stuff, but like Thaws said. it's worth to max-skill A.Bastet with pys. You can eliminate time-drop debuffs by using A.Bastet's active and since it's only on a 5cd, it's so nice.

-You and another person do not have to add each other to recieve the full effects on both ends. If you both add each other, someone's will be wasted. Try to form an agreement beforehand if you can to avoid this situation.

to clarify on this if someone best friends you, you cannot select them to be your best friend. it is impossible.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 03, 2015, 04:43:58 AM
Disclaimer/notes about the Best Friend System since it's coming soon and some people are probably thinking about it/don't know all the details!

-You only get one selection, unless a reset is announced, much like the Present Egg Machine.
-By proxy due to the above, you may have multiple Best Friends.

-You and another person do not have to add each other to recieve the full effects on both ends. If you both add each other, someone's will be wasted. Try to form an agreement beforehand if you can to avoid this situation.

-If a Best Friend ditches, quits, goes on hiatus, deletes you, or any other event that would prevent you from seeing them log in for extended periods of time, then too bad - that selection was just wasted. Choose carefully!

Benefits:

-100 Pal Points when you use them instead of 10.
-You can see their super secret third team slot.
-You may use any of their three leaders infinitely as long as they've logged in at least once for that day.

My ideal best friend does not seem to exist in the world, so for now I got nothing. I may consider a hypermax I&I (although I don't think we have one in NA?) or Metatron from MOTK just so my selection doesn't go to waste never being used.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 03, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGjaw-LUgAAnv2T.png)

:*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 03, 2015, 09:35:49 AM
Grats trance, wish i could do the same buuuut my only Haku will always be SUBmissive to Ronia  :V

Does A.Venus have any other available role apart from Wukong - LMeta sub or Sandalphon - Zeus Mercury Descent lead?

It seems in the last GF i dropped half of the best subs for Wukong (DQXQ, Venus, Fuma Kotaro).... too bad i lack the monkey himself! (just like i've got a very good Isis team, but i lack Isis >_>)

I'm asking because i absolutely love A.Venus, so i'm desperately looking for a way to use her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Tomion on June 03, 2015, 09:52:02 AM
so I was wondering - see, I live in israel, where it is region blocked.
anyone knows if it'll be added at some point? kinda sad I cant play it :c (I know I'm asking quite a futile question since prolly nobody knows but worth a shot)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 03, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
=Does A.Venus have any other available role apart from Wukong - LMeta sub or Sandalphon - Zeus Mercury Descent lead?

It seems in the last GF i dropped half of the best subs for Wukong (DQXQ, Venus, Fuma Kotaro).... too bad i lack the monkey himself! (just like i've got a very good Isis team, but i lack Isis >_>)

I'm asking because i absolutely love A.Venus, so i'm desperately looking for a way to use her.

A. Venus' true value lies in her active, honestly, and it shines the most on light-based combo/matching teams, like Kirin/Ra/Kali/DQXQ.

Like for real, the three light rows are nice and all, but light in general... doesn't use rows all that much in lieu of TPAs.

For example, my LKali team:
LKali/A. Venus/Izanagi/Fuma Kotaro/BOdin/LKali friend

Every last one of these units has one or more TPAs, which provides a hell of a lot more damage than a row does. LKali has two, Venus has one, Izanagi has one, Kotaro has one, BOdin has three (but not light-based). A row of light would add up to... a 40% damage boost, I think? Venus has 3 rows and Kotaro has 1. Meanwhile a single TPA adds 1.5x damage, and two TPA awakenings provides 2.25x. What I do when I want to do insane damage is pop LKali, then Kotaro to get rid of wood, then Izanagi to multiply all of my damage (aside from Venus because she is no longer God) by two, and then A. Venus to ENHANCE light orbs (which you have a lot of thanks to Kotaro, and use her CTW to arrange the entire board into TPAs, since every color uses them. 

That's where her true beauty lies, I feel.

so I was wondering - see, I live in israel, where it is region blocked.
anyone knows if it'll be added at some point? kinda sad I cant play it :c (I know I'm asking quite a futile question since prolly nobody knows but worth a shot)

I have no idea, but if you have an Android device, I suggest trying qooapp (http://appinvasion.com/threads/english-version-of-qooapp-is-now-available.179694/) and downloading it through that. I couldn't play JP PAD until I did-- and the NA version is on there too, which is what the majority of us here play. Worth a shot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 03, 2015, 10:42:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/KoMaHKJ.jpg)

Red jewels skill up her now but nah, not bothering, threw 4 pys at her without a second thought.
But then I have no leilan friends so I can't bring her out for a test run. rip (The best I can do is make a green TPA team with her leading though :v)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 03, 2015, 11:54:23 AM
you can add me as bestfriend if you have at least a max skilled Kali
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 03, 2015, 12:22:33 PM
Star Vault is back tomorrow. It's the first event of the day though, which means it's fairly likely to be during work hours. Maybe I'll actually take a lunch break so I can play if mine us during work.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Zoriri on June 03, 2015, 02:15:49 PM
Hello everyone. I've been playing this game for a little over a year and have been lurking on these threads for about as long. My friend code is 390,992,295, my in-game name is Zoriri, and my main leaders are I&I and Set.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 03, 2015, 02:24:41 PM
Welcome to the gears of madness.  Your stewardess for this flight will be Chirei.  Please make note of the exits to the left and right of the thread.  These exits have been bolted shut for your safety.  In the event of an emergency, please be advised that this thread has no brakes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 03, 2015, 03:14:59 PM
btw the only pets allowed on this thread are One True God and One True Dog.

Set will have to be in a proper cage.

Friend request will be sent promptly...
Except your friend list is capped.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 03, 2015, 04:39:24 PM
so I was wondering - see, I live in israel, where it is region blocked.
anyone knows if it'll be added at some point? kinda sad I cant play it :c (I know I'm asking quite a futile question since prolly nobody knows but worth a shot)

It might be possible for someone here to get you set up with an NA APK. I don't know the specifics of how apks work, but it's typically how you get past region blocking I think?

Welcome to the gears of madness.  Your stewardess for this flight will be Chirei.  Please make note of the exits to the left and right of the thread.  These exits have been bolted shut for your safety.  In the event of an emergency, please be advised that this thread has no brakes.

I serve nobody but myself, I am a free man
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 03, 2015, 06:42:00 PM
Hello everyone. I've been playing this game for a little over a year and have been lurking on these threads for about as long. My friend code is 390,992,295, my in-game name is Zoriri, and my main leaders are I&I and Set.

A hypermax Lkali has added you.

Yukarin in japanese
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 03, 2015, 08:11:39 PM
Don't be like me.
Don't scare your own pants into the laundry machine.

Skill up Amaterasu. (http://imgur.com/7VyNTOq)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 03, 2015, 09:47:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/T0g9iCT.png) 

Stay down, you bind-happy asshole.

No-stoned. My revenge for dumping ~7 stones on this shit in the past is complete.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 03, 2015, 10:16:39 PM
Parvati too strongk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 04, 2015, 12:20:20 AM
Alas, I could not join the Sandalphon-crushers club today.  I screwed up against Raphael and had to use Force on him to not die, so I didn't have it for when I got to Sandy himself.  Despite a long struggle(well, if 9 turns counts as long), I could not survive long enough to get it back up in time.  Despite trying my hardest to nuke him from where he was, he lived and once the Birdcage fell it was all over.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 12:34:15 AM
Devil Chaaalleeeengeeeeee

lmao corpse wyrm is super easy with ronias

man, satan's dungeon is really easy now thanks to power creep

beelz isn't hard at all either

mephisto is okay but i died to cerebus a bunch of times because SKYFALL ORBTROLLS EEVERY TIME

no stam left to try sorcess THANKS CEREBUS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 04, 2015, 12:46:55 AM
After a long drawn out battle with my own mobile, i finally got PAD JP to work!!

And now begin The Pain: rerolling..... wait what? Gold egg on my FIRST roll? IZANAGI?!?!

I'm leaning toward keeping him:

1) no tears of blood due to rerolling
2) great sub in late-game
3) decent LS for starting

am i missing anything?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 01:56:18 AM
Well, it looks like in theory Verdandi can crush Mephistopheles no problem, but in practice I kept losing to him and I'm not really sure why. Three times I went for my big burst on him with a board change and GZL active, big combo with at least two sets of green prongs, and all three times it just didn't really hurt him. He kept dropping to around 25%. I swear that should be doing more, but either I don't understand Verdandi's damage range or I somehow messed up the combo all three times without noticing. If this was the real dungeon I'd be inclined to keep trying, but I won't get a stone for this and there's no way I'd ever trade 200 stamina for any orb at this point, so I guess I'm done but I know I can do this no problem in the future. Would be EZ mode if I had an Awoken Ceres friend to burn off Mephistopheles' bind, but none are up. Oh well.

Edit: Ah fuck, my Star Vault is at noon tomorrow. That is not how you get my money, PAD.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 04, 2015, 02:09:19 AM
After a long drawn out battle with my own mobile, i finally got PAD JP to work!!

And now begin The Pain: rerolling..... wait what? Gold egg on my FIRST roll? IZANAGI?!?!

I'm leaning toward keeping him:

1) no tears of blood due to rerolling
2) great sub in late-game
3) decent LS for starting

am i missing anything?

That's the thing though, he's a great late-game sub. His LS is awful for a starter because he only boosts God-types, which you won't be able to fit more than one of on your team for a very long time.

I suggest rerolling.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 04, 2015, 02:25:46 AM
I swear that should be doing more, but either I don't understand Verdandi's damage range or I somehow messed up the combo all three times without noticing.

Were you at full health? Norns get +15% more damage on the muliplier (+0.15) depending on whether you're almost dead, above half, or full. If you were getting banged up a lot, you'd go from 10.89x to 9x, which is somewhat noticeable. This is why i'm glad I can run dual blodins on Skuld, as it removes this problem sometimes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 03:51:34 AM
Were you at full health? Norns get +15% more damage on the muliplier (+0.15) depending on whether you're almost dead, above half, or full. If you were getting banged up a lot, you'd go from 10.89x to 9x, which is somewhat noticeable. This is why i'm glad I can run dual blodins on Skuld, as it removes this problem sometimes.

I was never at full health. At highest I think I was like ten HP above half, at lowest I was at a few hundred HP. That's definitely part of it I'm sure. The one time I came closest to finishing him being at full almost certainly would have made the difference, but I figured my best bet was always to try to chip him down as close to 75% as possible before bursting him, which meant sponging a lot of hits in the process. In theory I might even be able to push him past that, tank the god bind (especially if I bring Susano instead of Cu Chu, but I'm still one Tamadra away from him being finished so I held him back), and then very cleanly one-shot him from like half. My recovery is pretty bad though and I'd need to use hearts that were already on the board (plus Odin's autoheal and active), so it would be tricky.

My best combo was, at least I thought, an eight combo with three green two-prongs, and I can't imagine it's possible for him to survive that with GZL up, even from full and with my attack bonus at just x9. Either I botched the combo and somehow didn't actually match as many prongs as I thought, or I forgot to activate GZL and didn't realize it. I was pretty shocked to see him survive that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 04, 2015, 03:55:32 AM
*7 Million North America Downloads Event Pt. 1*
[Duration]: 6/5 (Fri), 12:00 AM - 6/12 (Fri), 11:59 PM (PDT)

We did it! We reached 7 million downloads! Many thanks for all of your support. To celebrate this occasion, we?re having two-part event! Fabulous!

It?s some of the best yet, with new everything! Stay tuned as more details are announced!

■① Daily Login Bonuses
6/5 - 6/12 - 1 free TAMADRA
*Bonuses will be distributed as late as 3:59 AM (PDT) the following day.

■② Road to Victory!
What can be more epic than a colossal struggle with the Gods?! Zeus Stratios smites all challengers with the Wrath of God!

6/12 - 6/13 - Ultimate God Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*

■③ Taking Care of Business
Everyday! Make the most of this event?s special 2.5x skill-up bonus to get some levels on your monsters!

6/5 - 6/7 - Dark Night Sword
6/12 - 6/14 - Red Sprite

■④Special Event Content
An ancient power has awoken.

6/12 - 6/14 - ?????????????
[rdj edit: PDX is saying this is Sonia Gran]

■⑤ Taken from the Vine
Time to pluck some fruits from the Heavenly Garden! We have a new gift dungeon for you!

6/5 - 6/9 - Gift from the Heavenly Garden
*Please note that ?Gift from the Heavenly Garden? has a stamina cost of 30. If you do not meet the stamina requirements this dungeon will not appear in the Dungeon menu.

■⑥Special Event Dungeon Schedule
The Spirit Jewels are active from 6/5 to 6/21!
See here for details: http://on.fb.me/1swdWlb
6/5 - Wadatsumi Descended!
6/6 - Grimoires Descended!
6/6 - Gaia Descended!
6/7 - Takeminakata Descended!
6/7 - Draggie!
6/8 - Heracles Descended!
6/9 - Noah Descended!
6/10 - Zeus Vulcan Descended!
6/11 - Hera-Beorc Descended!
6/12 - Cauchemar Descended!

■⑦Awesome Daily Bonuses
Pal Egg Event:
6/5 - 6/21 - Rare Evo Materials

Dungeon Bonus:
5x chance for +Eggs to appear in Technical Dungeons [extends until 6/22 (Tues), 12:00 PM PDT]
2x King appearance rates for the Metal and Jewel Dragons
Fusion Bonus:
2.5x Skill Up rate
Drop Bonus:
2x Drops for the Daily Special Dungeons
2x Coins for the Weekend Dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 04:02:47 AM
>no stones
>pad academy coming

gungho why
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 04, 2015, 04:08:15 AM
>no stones
>pad academy coming

gungho why

Shut up I need tamadras >:(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 04:11:05 AM
seriously

every

fucking

time

SATAN LIVES WITH ONE FUCKING HP

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 04:43:15 AM
at least Sorceress was easy enough, done with devil challenges now (screw rushes until I get awoken)

also I just realized I have both Pandora and Hanzo lol

And chibi haku that sorta counts too right
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 04, 2015, 05:05:37 AM
After a long drawn out battle with my own mobile, i finally got PAD JP to work!!

And now begin The Pain: rerolling..... wait what? Gold egg on my FIRST roll? IZANAGI?!?!

I'm leaning toward keeping him:

1) no tears of blood due to rerolling
2) great sub in late-game
3) decent LS for starting

am i missing anything?

Lots of uevos and awokens nowadays make gods lose their god type. For example, my Bastet team went from almost full god last year to almost no god types nowadays.
God enhance best use seems to be in rainbow teams but izanagi is inferior to muse in many ways.
Imo he's not the great end game sub he used to be, but then again unless there's one character you really really want, first roll isn't that critical, jp hands out stones like candy lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 04, 2015, 06:01:23 AM
After a long drawn out battle with my own mobile, i finally got PAD JP to work!!

And now begin The Pain: rerolling..... wait what? Gold egg on my FIRST roll? IZANAGI?!?!

I'm leaning toward keeping him:

1) no tears of blood due to rerolling
2) great sub in late-game
3) decent LS for starting

am i missing anything?

If you have the patience, reroll. Izanagi's only niche nowadays is a God enhance with SBR and now that kind of thing just isn't needed anymore, and his primary weapon x2.0 god enhance got outclassed by Muse who also is B/G and covers God rainbow teams such as A.Ra. Even then, Muse's LS is unconditional and Izanagi's is HP conditional.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 04, 2015, 07:47:18 AM
Small report before bed, apparently iOS NA can update to 7.8.1 right now... no news on android yet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 04, 2015, 08:07:23 AM
Small report before bed, apparently iOS NA can update to 7.8.1 right now... no news on android yet.

Can confirm, already downloaded although servers are still down.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 04, 2015, 10:15:47 AM
>no stones
>pad academy coming

gungho why

This is only part 1. I'm sure stones will come in part 2.

Meanwhile, this maintenance is running dangerously close to my Star Vault time. I'm not going to be happy if it cuts into it. >:(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 04, 2015, 11:57:07 AM
ANDROID 7.8.1 IS IN THE PLAY STORE

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GO

GO

GO
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 12:08:05 PM
rip my dreams of clearing TEC in time

whatever ulti goemon here i come
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 04, 2015, 12:10:36 PM
It's not letting me update :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 04, 2015, 12:17:28 PM
rip my dreams of clearing TEC in time

(http://i.imgur.com/NrdBrYg.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 12:19:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/NrdBrYg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBA6ev5HMe4
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 12:21:12 PM
Hmm, 2.5x skillups announced just hours after I few a stack of gold super kings to Apollo. The first one still mattered because it level capped him, but the rest were a waste. Think I gotta stop using those now snd get my final one skillup with a Cyclops, because wasting super kings isn't fun.

Even though I spent a ton of gold and a few stones on Tamadra village last week I'm still okay with more free Tamadras. I can make my white Metatron I guess. I've got one white snow globe left, so that takes care of a lot of it. She might be handy to have around.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 04, 2015, 01:05:35 PM
Oh hey what was the final consensus on the 3DS game?  Is it worth picking up?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 04, 2015, 01:34:45 PM
Oh hey what was the final consensus on the 3DS game?  Is it worth picking up?
I am inclined to vote a resounding yes.  Some of the changed things are quite neat.  Dont underestimate MarioPAD though due to it being a Mario game; if you do, later on it WILL run you over.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 01:41:43 PM
Maintenance still ongoing, and group D is getting dangerously close to getting screwed out of their Star Vault. As it is if maintenance ends in time for mine at noon it'll still cost me most of a stone since I'm stamina capped right now and was banking on one King Of The Gods run to get me to a point where I wouldn't rank up with most of a bar left.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 02:07:14 PM
Thanks Gungho


So Japan apparently gives Isis an A rank in both sub and leader

Meanwhile new Kirin & Haku gets B in leader and C in sub RIP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 04, 2015, 02:29:56 PM
Maintenance still ongoing, and group D is getting dangerously close to getting screwed out of their Star Vault. As it is if maintenance ends in time for mine at noon it'll still cost me most of a stone since I'm stamina capped right now and was banking on one King Of The Gods run to get me to a point where I wouldn't rank up with most of a bar left.

Two minutes and I'm screwed out of it. Fucking hell.

Thanks Gungho


So Japan apparently gives Isis an A rank in both sub and leader

Meanwhile new Kirin & Haku gets B in leader and C in sub RIP

Once again, B leaders are "viable leaders" that are great but still need good sub support because they can't stand alone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 04, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
....that awful moment when, after getting worried about missing Star Vault and relieved that your group will have it much later, you finally realize that it will open up EXACTLY in the only 2 hours you WON'T be able to play.....  :colonveeplusalpha:


oh and i decided to reroll in PAD JP (can't believe i forgot that Gods aren't exactly low-cost or common at lower levels) so add to that the usual soul-crushing rerolling.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 03:00:18 PM
Don't bother rerolling. It's a waste of time, especially if you know how to play already and especially on JP where freebies are even more plentiful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 04:08:15 PM
Well, game over man. Now two groups' Star Vaults are shot. I don't normally demand compensation on my free games, but honestly I think it is warranted here. I would like some compensation for my extremely rare, valuable limited event that the game has just barred me arbitrarily (in the sense that some people just randonly got fucked by when their rotation in, not that the maintenance is arbitrary) from playing.

To say nothing of all the stamina going to waste, please move the Star Vault times of anyone who got screwed to tomorrow. I don't want to sound like a shrieking Facebook goon, but I'm not super happy about this and it seems like an easy fix.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 04, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
So Japan apparently gives Isis an A rank in both sub and leader

Meanwhile new Kirin & Haku gets B in leader and C in sub RIP

Tier lists fucking suck. Seriously, if we continue going on about that, I'm going to piledrive someone.

And it's not going to be your waifu.

Well, game over man. Now two groups' Star Vaults are shot. I don't normally demand compensation on my free games, but honestly I think it is warranted here. I would like some compensation for my extremely rare, valuable limited event that the game has just barred me arbitrarily (in the sense that some people just randonly got fucked by when their rotation in, not that the maintenance is arbitrary) from playing.

Yeah, that's.... really shitty they didn't account for that, but they may have and upc hasn't noticed the change yet since the game is down.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 04:35:01 PM
Update live? At least I still get something.

Edit: Never mind, the dungeon just isn't there. I will assume the time has been changed then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 04, 2015, 04:49:06 PM
Servers are up on iOS, can confirm that changes have been added.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 04, 2015, 04:52:40 PM
ONE TRUE DOG ULT IS LIVE BUT I DON'T HAVE A DUB-AMELIT
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 04, 2015, 04:57:07 PM
ONE TRUE DOG ULT IS LIVE BUT I DON'T HAVE A DUB-AMELIT

suf-fer-ring
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 04, 2015, 05:17:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4jqV5pU.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 05:21:32 PM
No Star Vault, wasted a ton of stamina, and got 2/3 blue Trifruits. Not doing great today, PAD.

You can redeem yourself tomorrow with your 2.5x skillups coinciding with the skillup rotation. White Kali, black Kali, Verdandi, and Urd, I want skillups on them all. I demand at least four special god skillups tomorrow.

(http://i.imgur.com/4jqV5pU.jpg)

YAAAAAAAAY!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 04, 2015, 05:26:15 PM
The TRUEST of dogs.

You may be the only person in the US with a hypermax uevo tamadrapurin :V

ps fuck yeah bff pal points ty <3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 04, 2015, 05:34:06 PM
No Star Vault

Check again; PDX is reporting it's been rescheduled. Group D is now in five and a half hours (from the time of this post) when it was three hours ago originally, at least.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 04, 2015, 05:42:51 PM
Check again; PDX is reporting it's been rescheduled. Group D is now in five and a half hours (from the time of this post) when it was three hours ago originally, at least.

Just saw that, super cool. Thanks Gungho NA, you guys are usually pretty cool, this is all I ask for.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dr Rawr on June 04, 2015, 05:55:07 PM
i wasnt awake at 10:30am for the dungeon

also id is 323,743,297 im using dancing flame amaterasu ohkami didnt realize i never put this up
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 04, 2015, 05:58:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/kRPNczj.jpg)
EXTREME EC y u do dis to me
27th floor!!! So close!

Kinda my fault I could've made 3 TPA green combos just I missed just one step and only made 2 TPA + 1 normal green combo.

JUST WATCH XEC.
I'M GONNA CLEAR YOU SOMEDAY.
AND I WILL DO IT WITHOUT MEI OR VERDANDI!!!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 04, 2015, 06:07:06 PM
i wasnt awake at 10:30am for the dungeon

also id is 323,743,297 im using dancing flame amaterasu ohkami didnt realize i never put this up
It got rescheduled due to extended maintenance, so you might be in luck?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 04, 2015, 06:45:15 PM
One True Dog has done it. (http://imgur.com/eQLjSE1)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 04, 2015, 07:12:02 PM
In tandem with TamaPurin ult and such, the legendary Dream Labyrinth will be returning to NA. This will be fun as a first go for me. (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/1078398518855406/?type=1)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 04, 2015, 07:47:16 PM
Time to run Dream Labyrinth for two weeks straight
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 04, 2015, 07:59:41 PM
Don't forget that we have a free fruit dragon incoming! May you get the one you want without too much hassle.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 04, 2015, 08:02:17 PM
I want the one that gives me a skillup and an awakening simultaneously.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 04, 2015, 11:42:43 PM
oh boy i only need a light fruit dragon and then i'll have them all

and then i can run hello kitty without wasting any skillups :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 04, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
Don't forget that we have a free fruit dragon incoming! May you get the one you want without too much hassle.

WHAT IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THEM ALL

Also hello kitty collab means all my stamina is going to waste skilling up these guys fuck

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SAY THIS IN MY LIFE BUT COME TO ME HELLO KITTY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 05, 2015, 01:36:00 AM
hey chirei have you cleared extreme endless yet :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 05, 2015, 01:39:49 AM
hey chirei have you cleared extreme endless yet :V

lol no there's no way i can beat that as i am now

I poked at it a few times "blind" and it's about as tense as I expected it to be. I don't expect to get any further than F29 with optimal spawns and drops at best.

meanwhile boom

(http://i.imgur.com/Kq2C5Qc.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 05, 2015, 01:50:31 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/JLruGN1.png)

well, i got him. now to max-skill him.

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Return of the #OneTrueDog
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 05, 2015, 05:18:13 AM
... I need to clear regular old TEC again? Pssh.

Not really feeling doing that with Beelzebub again. Maybe I'll stack a bunch of time extends and see how far I get with Ascooby Doobis.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 05, 2015, 09:17:14 AM
Three tries to get it to spawn, but Grape Dragon get.  I must be spoiled since I'm disappointed it didnt come evolved like the other time(s?) that dungeon came about, haha. Oh well, least I have it now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 05, 2015, 09:39:42 AM
Three tries to get it to spawn, but Grape Dragon get.  I must be spoiled since I'm disappointed it didnt come evolved like the other time(s?) that dungeon came about, haha. Oh well, least I have it now.

JP stopped giving out evolved froot dragons a while back so I guess NA/EU and such are following suit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 05, 2015, 10:42:42 AM
Question for the JP players: after splitting my soul for an Horcrux rerolling, i finally got Leilan. BUT, to get her i had to use 15 stones (don't know why i get a mail with 10 stones in it, is it a special JP event?)

Since i'll probably stay NO-IAP with the jp account, should i create a second Horcrux or the rate of gifted stones in jp is so good that it's better to go on with Leilan?  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 05, 2015, 10:57:10 AM
Question for the JP players: after splitting my soul for an Horcrux rerolling, i finally got Leilan. BUT, to get her i had to use 15 stones (don't know why i get a mail with 10 stones in it, is it a special JP event?)

10 stones was compensation for cancellation of a new dungeon mode

Also you get freebies left right and center. Ask Chirei for Leilan tips.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 05, 2015, 12:20:16 PM
Alright, lets see how those 2.5x special god skillups pan out.

Urd: 1/2 (I don't really care about Urd right now, so the use of this is limited).

Verdandi: 1/3

White Kali: 1/4

Black Kali: 1/7

So that's a total of 4/16, or exactly what skillup rates should be under these conditions. I'll happily take it, that is what I demanded. Hopefully I can get at least one more on the Kalis today running Friday Dungeon.

Edit: Oof, up to 3/9 black Kalis from two Friday Dungeon runs. That's great, but I'm still dropping way more Devilits than Angelits and at this rate I'll be done with them in no time and back to where I started. But I guess that'll be where I started but up a skillmax black Kali, so that'll be cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 05, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dxRPXyw.png)

Yep. Liu Bei is pulling his goddamn weight

Not shown: Fatty showing up on Wave 6
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 05, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
Fuck yes, max skilled Perseus.

Now I just need to max skill Liu Bei an-

...

Oh right, I max skilled him already. :V

Now my Awoken Bastet team is almost complete.  I just need Awoken Bastet herself and then Awoken Meimei, unless I can think of a better setup than ABastet/AParvati/Perseus/Liu Bei/AMeimei.  Verdandi would work really well, but no norns have I.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 05, 2015, 03:33:29 PM
What goes on Urd team? Awoken Kagutsuchi seems to, and I've got him. Flamme would, but I don't have her, or the red crest knight. Disco Hera I guess? Maybe Echidna even?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 05, 2015, 03:50:14 PM
If you have Claymore, I believe she also would work for Urd, especially once skilled up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 05, 2015, 04:04:04 PM
Hmm, no I don't. I don't have any weapons. Although now that you mention it I do remember people talking about that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 05, 2015, 06:33:04 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/d6wvmsh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/d6wvmsh)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 05, 2015, 06:50:15 PM
Yup, you got two things I use a lot (Metatron and Athena) and I don't imagine you'll abruptly disappear like randos sometimes do.

Plus I scoured the internet for hypermax Sun Quans again and found zero again. I could wait for some of those to come online, but that might be never, so this way my selection isn't wasted just waiting.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 05, 2015, 06:56:05 PM
I was kinda bummed out of using 15 stones right off the bat so i thought "put aside the savefile, let try ONE more attempt to get something good, if not i'll go with Leilan"

First roll: Delgado  :wat:

Second roll: Osiris  :o :o :o

Sorry Leilan, as much as i love you chinese gods, i'll have to leave you aside. An Egyptian 2 AND the Armored Knight that work with him in the first 2 rolls outside of a GF? HELL YEAH!

And this will also force me to better my combo skills  :blush:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 05, 2015, 06:57:45 PM
Sandalphon is at skill 5 now. Apocalypse got one skill up; Satan got one as well.

Not really sure how to feel about not even being halfway to a maxed Sandy Cheeks. I'll get there eventually, though.

I got a best friend invite from five different peeps now? Plus, my invite to Edible.

Coincidentally, one person revealed that he had both a hypermax Purin and a hypermax Sakuya; both being things I could use handily. I may not be the only person in NA with a hypermax Purin anymore, but I was probably the first!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 05, 2015, 07:16:51 PM
As far as I know I'm onecof two hypermax Gabriels in NA, and I wasn't far behind the first. I suspect that's not actually true, I'm guessing a few more exist but don't get advertised because they're sub-only.

Even if I fuse him the moment I finish the update download I probably won't be anywhere near the first hypermax Awoken Ra. Those are probably going to be everywhere.

If Misato's new uvo is even decent I'll probably work on her when I finish Ra. My roommate and I will both probably hypermax her if her new form is leadable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 06, 2015, 04:01:57 AM
So I watched a bunch of Awoken Isis vids

AndroReine is used in almost every single one of them. Pretty much the staple core of the team and somehow the REM blessed me with both of them. Obviously gungho finally decided to reward me for my years loyalty and devotion to the best girl :V

As for the other two subs it's a bit more of a toss up. One of them has to be Dark, so either Karin, Bodin, or Unevoed Amon. Although you can also tech in a non water for utility depending on the dungeon. Like one guy used Vegeto to nuke the fatty dragon and someone else used Bonia just so that they would have enough HP to tank DQ Hera's premptive :V.

Final sub is more up in the air, but the most common picks are Merlin, Hermes, or PadZ Sieg. Sieg in particular is an interesting choice since he has good awakenings, is a double orb changer, and also grants a 50% damage shield which can be useful for stopping DQ Hera's ridiculous preemptive. Hopefully we get him here...

I haven't seen anyone do Challenge 10 yet, but for everything else her burst is fine. AndroReine combo deals around 7-10+ million so it's enough to one hit any final boss, and you can pick your other two subs to best handle the other bosses.

The real main thing she needed to be in the best leader tier though is if only she got that 30% shield. Then her tankiness would be ridiculous which would allow her to stall vs any boss for the AndroReine combo to come up. In that respect Awoken Lakshi is better since she has around the same damage but also ridiculous tanking stats. Oh well tradeoff for being ez modo I guess.


So as for me, although I have Andro and Reine, I don't any any of the others.

The obvious pick would just to go with Wada and Sieg since they cover the right colors, and with Wada I have 100% skill lock resist.

However then I realized I have another really good sub that would let me hit 100%, D.Kali! :V

Although I lose out on damage by missing out on a row and not being water, I gain a shitton of utility with time+, skill boosts, and a fullboard active.

Final sub I should probably just use Nut cause she's hypermaxed anyways so :V. Hopefully gungho makes her ulti evo Water/Dark so then if I ever get a Karin I can go Awoken Karin.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 06, 2015, 04:44:20 AM
oh boy the game gave me 5 angelits today-

oh

no skill up.


thanks gungho
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 06, 2015, 05:00:51 AM
Yup, you got two things I use a lot (Metatron and Athena) and I don't imagine you'll abruptly disappear like randos sometimes do.

Plus I scoured the internet for hypermax Sun Quans again and found zero again. I could wait for some of those to come online, but that might be never, so this way my selection isn't wasted just waiting.

ill try hypermaxing mine then. i just got sun quan last pcgf and i intend using him on my kali team
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 06, 2015, 05:05:40 AM
GODDAMMIT WHY DOES SKY PRISON GET HARDER THE BETTER MY TEAM IS.  FFS HOW DO I FARM TWINLITS ARRRGGGG


*plays dwarf fortress to cool off*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 06, 2015, 05:09:17 AM
GODDAMMIT WHY DOES SKY PRISON GET HARDER THE BETTER MY TEAM IS.  FFS HOW DO I FARM TWINLITS ARRRGGGG


*plays dwarf fortress to cool off*

i thought that game was full of lava, how are you gonna cool off like that
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 06, 2015, 05:20:30 AM
GODDAMMIT WHY DOES SKY PRISON GET HARDER THE BETTER MY TEAM IS.  FFS HOW DO I FARM TWINLITS ARRRGGGG


*plays dwarf fortress to cool off*
agreed

every other weekday dungeon is super easy now, even tuesday with it's preemptive spam and 7 million HP boss

but goddamn friday, unless you can trivially hit over 600k armor, the first floor will always be a ridiculous balancing act of trying to hit just hard enough but not too hard
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 06, 2015, 05:28:55 AM
losing is fun
Are you using a full sweep team, a sweep F1 stall F3 team, or a stall team? 
My team uses a ton of skill boosts, so I don't have to stall floor 1.

I am trying to decide who to Bestfriend. The main benefit seems to have certain leads permanently available. I have more than enough farming leader friends, so I just need someone who exclusively uses deprecated descend leads, such as Satan, Lucifer, Astaroth, etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 06, 2015, 05:39:21 AM
Or, be like me. Have enough HP to facetank a Dublit hit or two in the same turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 06, 2015, 05:40:56 AM
I'm using a full sweep team, but I keep getting screwed on the last floor.

LMeta
Rose
King Shynee
Lilith
Ecchi
LMeta

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 06, 2015, 06:12:50 AM
Guys, I have an addiction to Kouryu.

It's too fun. (http://imgur.com/ojNDaSj)
Can't stop.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 06, 2015, 06:24:49 AM
ill try hypermaxing mine then. i just got sun quan last pcgf and i intend using him on my kali team

Are you making him U/G? That's typically how Kali does it, and if that's the case those aren't that uncommon. I have a hypermax U/G Sun Quan. It's the U/W ones that are impossibly rare. And I understand why, the green one is a fantastic sub and the white one needs blue healer subs to work. I mean, I made mine green for a reason. But after all of the people worried when U/W Sun Quan was revealed about how he was going to make Metatron obsolete I'm a little disappointed that nobody has adopted him.

But if you do mean U/W, I want to know what your Kali team looks like and also put him up in your second slot ASAP.

GODDAMMIT WHY DOES SKY PRISON GET HARDER THE BETTER MY TEAM IS.  FFS HOW DO I FARM TWINLITS ARRRGGGG


*plays dwarf fortress to cool off*

Consider trying a semi-stall team. ~2/4/2 should be enough to tank everything you need to tank while still killing the last floor as long as you bring a delay for the third floor that you can stall back up for the 'Lits. I just use my normal team and the only thing that threatens me is the second floor if everything is synced on turn two, and that's rare (less than 10% in my experience).

Edit: 6/8 Devilits today. Thanks PAD. :wat:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 06, 2015, 06:44:06 AM
Now my Awoken Bastet team is almost complete.  I just need Awoken Bastet herself and then Awoken Meimei, unless I can think of a better setup than ABastet/AParvati/Perseus/Liu Bei/AMeimei.  Verdandi would work really well, but no norns have I.

We run basically the same Awoken Bastet team build and I can tell you that it is incredibly potent. Awoken Meimei  would be even better since her board change makes everybody's cooldowns go down by 1 and for slow changers like Liu Bei that is a godsend

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 06, 2015, 06:53:04 AM
My only issue with that setup is Meimei's active is kind of wasteful (and potentially useless if you get a trivial amount of green).  Wish I could fit Michael in there somehow, but I wouldn't want to swap out anything else for him.  He's got the perfect Meimei fix button.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 06, 2015, 06:58:34 AM
My only issue with that setup is Meimei's active is kind of wasteful (and potentially useless if you get a trivial amount of green).  Wish I could fit Michael in there somehow, but I wouldn't want to swap out anything else for him.  He's got the perfect Meimei fix button.

Hmm yeah that is true. But Liu Bei also gets rid of Dark. Ideally though you do want Mike to go with Meimei, but you'd have to forgo one of your other subs.

Pray for a Verdandi then and copy my team? :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 06, 2015, 02:52:40 PM
DID SOMEBODY SAY TWINLITS??
I'm using a full sweep team, but I keep getting screwed on the last floor.

LMeta
Rose
King Shynee
Lilith
Ecchi
LMeta
This is my team, what I do is (assuming I didn't skyfall combo past Stage 1 before Lilith is ready oops) is take my sweet time in Stage 3 to set up the board for 7 combos/one light mass attack, using whatever colors got bound to clear things up and recharge Lilith as the babytama isn't going to kill you.  This requires 16-18 light/heart orbs as so:
(http://i.imgur.com/YiBvodA.png)
I made them heart orbs just to be easier to see the other colors can be whatever but at least one dark match is good don't make them all the green sub color it doesn't really matter though, pop Lilith when you're done and nuke those suckers.  It's probably overkill but this is what I was doing back before the LMeta ult hit, my team was significantly weaker/underleveled and I had very real concerns with living through Stage 3 pre-emptive.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 06, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
Quote
(assuming I didn't skyfall combo past Stage 1 before Lilith is ready oops
Swallowtail unskilled is the same turns as Lilith max skilled, plus it has one skill boost. 
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 06, 2015, 04:17:32 PM
Ooh. I wonder if you could tear through Twinlits with Dark Fagan because of Swallowtail. At a 16x multiplier and dual doubledongers I doubt you need much more than Fagans and utility.

Draggie? Hadar? Dragon Haku? Chaos Devil Dragon?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 06, 2015, 04:45:34 PM
Eventually I'm going to have a twinlits team consisting of:

LFagan
Swallowtail
Swallowtail
Echidna
High Light Ninja or Tornado Holy Dragon
LFagan

Needs at most one turn of stall (on wave 2); assuming both Fagans and the Echidna are max skill that's five turns to take down two somewhat weakened twinlits.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 06, 2015, 05:42:08 PM
wangren obtained

....the game gave me four fucking red pirates though now that i have -two- maxed chiyome.

(good thing I have a third :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 06, 2015, 08:41:53 PM
I just s-ranked Dark Knight Sword and didn't get a Tamadra for it. Does anyone know why that is?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 06, 2015, 08:51:57 PM
Do it on Expert, not Master.

Unless you've already gotten the tama on a previous run of it in which case that would be why.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 06, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Did you do a phone transfer? Cause when I did, all my S ranks were erased but I don't get another tama for getting them back
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 06, 2015, 10:16:11 PM
Expert is the only one up right now.

I did do a phone transfer, but I still had a previous, non-s high score already. I guess maybe it got reset down to a previous amount. I don't know.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 07, 2015, 04:11:54 AM
Anybody have Awoken Haku gameplay?

Im seriously considering switching to awoken haku but the skill change uggh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 07, 2015, 04:49:52 AM
leads: zaerog inf Lv95 5/8 awakes
zaerog inf Lv69 8/8 awakes

subs: awoken haku Lv34 0/8 awakes
diza Lv87 3/3 awakes
hanzo Lv18 0/5 awakes (used wrong hanzo LOL)
chibi haku Lv70 1/3 awakes

(http://i.imgur.com/sQ71bTE.jpg) x36.00 5 darks

(http://i.imgur.com/uNYFepz.jpg) x16.00 3 darks
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 07, 2015, 06:32:06 AM
My only issue with that setup is Meimei's active is kind of wasteful (and potentially useless if you get a trivial amount of green).  Wish I could fit Michael in there somehow, but I wouldn't want to swap out anything else for him.  He's got the perfect Meimei fix button.

I wish I had a meimei but I've been using leilan in her place for a few days now and her active is really useful.
The cd reduce means you'd be even less likely to not have wild cats available.
7 star is also more reliable than I imagined. I rarely get less than 8 green orbs and 2 TPA gets you really good damage already. I'd still prefer elize or liubei for dealing the killing blow on bosses but it's good enough for midbosses and having a board flusher is still handy even though bastet resists poison.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 07, 2015, 09:19:20 AM
The angel/death invades are time-based. :colonveeplusalpha:

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 07, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
After 2 day of using Osiris (my very first time using a combo god) i can write down my first impressions:

1) holy smokes, the lack of Time Extent is HARD! I got spoiled with Ronia  :blush:
2) my combo skill suck  :V

I can reliably get 5 combos every turn but the last one to activate the multiplier not so much.....

I also belately realized that in my US account i already had a truckload of good Osiris subs and the guy himself (if only i could pass my dupes to the jp account)


On a different note, i finally cleared Beelzebub in the Devil Challenge  :toot:  still don't know how to tackle Satan or Mephisto though....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 07, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
Hey fanatic is your ceres hyper?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 07, 2015, 03:54:36 PM
Light Sprite coming up.

Do I want to kill myself trying to get Wukong skillups?  I have one, but don't use him, and the only DQXQ I have is mini.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 07, 2015, 04:04:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TD3v0Qq.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HzBgMLU.jpg)

Easiest jewel I ever earned.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 07, 2015, 04:05:26 PM
blue sprite where are you

im sorry for not running you the first time :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 07, 2015, 04:16:40 PM
Light Sprite coming up.

Do I want to kill myself trying to get Wukong skillups?  I have one, but don't use him, and the only DQXQ I have is mini.

Oh FUCK, already?
'
I may just have to ditch my spare chasers then. Awoken Mei doesn't need them, after all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 07, 2015, 04:34:00 PM
Hey fanatic is your ceres hyper?
Only max skilled. If it was +297, Beelzebub would be working with 4000 more HP but I'm still working on Persephone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 07, 2015, 05:32:06 PM
lol oops i spent all this time thinking up a rainbow team for awoken isis

but then i realized they changed dungeons to sub atts count too so i can just use my normal team


I still want Phoenix Rider though he looks legit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 07, 2015, 05:33:31 PM
Is the Saint Seiya REM worth rolling for?

Sagittarius Seiyas's LS is very good (i guess he is a gold right? >_>) and Dokho looks great as a sub for Osiris but i think that's it, at least for what might actually be useful to me....

EDIT: Suikama, please never change  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 07, 2015, 05:42:05 PM
Is the Saint Seiya REM worth rolling for?

Sagittarius Seiyas's LS is very good (i guess he is a gold right? >_>) and Dokho looks great as a sub for Osiris but i think that's it, at least for what might actually be useful to me....

EDIT: Suikama, please never change  :D

Saint Seiya rem unfortunately ended last night.

Overall- Depends on what you wanted from it. For osiris, not really much you want tbh. The golds got buffed at the end to be pretty damn good again though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 07, 2015, 06:54:19 PM
Oh FUCK, already?
'
I may just have to ditch my spare chasers then. Awoken Mei doesn't need them, after all.

What is your meimei skillup situation looking like?  I seem to recall you were going to awoken evo a few and ult evo the others, or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 07, 2015, 07:03:40 PM
What is your meimei skillup situation looking like?  I seem to recall you were going to awoken evo a few and ult evo the others, or something.

G/L is max skilled, G/D is sl1, and the rest are all going to awoken.

I already fed the chasers tbh, G/D mei is minimal priority at best.

...I'm still rather short on space though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 07, 2015, 07:06:32 PM
Buying box space > rolling REM ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 07, 2015, 07:19:30 PM
Buying box space > rolling REM ;_;

you'll never make me buy box space again ;;

If I just slam out what evos I can for a while I can be fine until I evolve all these fairies.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 07, 2015, 10:57:49 PM
Beelzebub: "You're going down!!!!!!"
[18:39] <Chirei> NO
[18:39] <Chirei> FUCK YOU
[18:40] <Chirei> YOU'RE THE ONE GOING DOWN TODAY

(http://i.imgur.com/K5Hih3D.png)(http://i.imgur.com/9WjYKcu.png)(http://i.imgur.com/bqh6F0w.png)(http://i.imgur.com/Zfx4AK6.png)(http://i.imgur.com/l1Cb3nn.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 07, 2015, 11:44:39 PM
ccool, my sun quan will be u/g. I have no interest (yet) in putting him as a lead haha
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 08, 2015, 01:14:31 AM
3 full stamina bars worth of coin dungeon runs

not even a single bubpy seen

chirei pls ;-;


oh well at least I got plus eggs from it

only 41 left to hypermax andromeda
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 08, 2015, 01:46:22 AM
I saw a ton of Bubpys last week (well three, but I didn't do that many alt runs) but none of them dropped. Beyzul is stiiiiiill one skillup away from max and I just want him done so I can never go within a thousand miles of Legendary Seaway ever again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 08, 2015, 03:05:43 AM
the chaore dream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2P3KuUhdvs)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 08, 2015, 03:14:57 AM
the chaore dream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2P3KuUhdvs)

She's a meiniac, meiniac on the floor
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 08, 2015, 03:27:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/HZjnBKX.png)

rofl-fuckin-mao zaerog infinity
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 08, 2015, 04:39:48 AM
the chaore dream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2P3KuUhdvs)

not much of a dream if it's in my reach

BV

i don't actually like that team that much though, rather run zuo or mei system mei
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 08, 2015, 05:14:31 AM
... huh. I have a Bastet and Meimei, but I also have mobs like Green Zhuge Liang, Susano, and Green Wee Jas.

Maybe I should try this whole Awoken Bastet crazy thang.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 08, 2015, 07:18:39 AM
Got the last Princess Punt I needed for shenanigans once we get her uvo's active skill buff. Proceeded to get defeated by the Hello Kitty REM with three dupes (Cinnamoroll, My Melody, Keroppi). orz

Is a Kuromi too much to ask for, game :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 08, 2015, 10:03:05 AM
Heracles Descended (Jewel of Light + Heracles skill-up)

Hello Kitty Collab (Fruit dragons skill-up + I&I skill-up)

Light Faerie (DQXQ skill-up)

Dark Night Sword x2 drop (CDK skill-up)

GUNGHO PLS :qq:


EDIT: this was last night holy crap it was already morning, 1 hour before the event ended..... GO TO HELL!  :]

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-06-08-06-48-51_zpsgpxb3uu6.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 08, 2015, 02:50:53 PM
Sorry for the double post but i've got to understand this: WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K HAPPENED TO THE FLOOR 2 OF HERACLES DESCENDED?!!?!?!?

I've never had problems before but i've just wasted 200 F***ING STAMINA and i've been killed every single time by Fafnir!!

Ronia, DL Vamp Duke, ADQ Hera-Ur, Demon Hadar, King Baddie, Ronia (all max lvl, all max awoken except Vamp/Baddie, about 430 +eggs)
I even tried putting Hera-Ur as leader to increase damage and i wasn't comboing bad since i got 6+ most of the times....

What the heck am i doing wrong?  ???

EDIT: finally downed him with an 8 combo in the 3rd turn.... either i got lucky in the past with huge combos without noticing or something is different
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 08, 2015, 03:45:25 PM
Sorry for the double post but i've got to understand this: WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K HAPPENED TO THE FLOOR 2 OF HERACLES DESCENDED?!!?!?!?

I've never had problems before but i've just wasted 200 F***ING STAMINA and i've been killed every single time by Fafnir!!

Ronia, DL Vamp Duke, ADQ Hera-Ur, Demon Hadar, King Baddie, Ronia (all max lvl, all max awoken except Vamp/Baddie, about 430 +eggs)
I even tried putting Hera-Ur as leader to increase damage and i wasn't comboing bad since i got 6+ most of the times....

What the heck am i doing wrong?  ???

I could kill Mythical Fafnir with my vanilla Leilan team, pre-Liu Bei shenanigans, so I'm not sure what you could be doing wrong. He's not hard unless you're blue.

3 full stamina bars worth of coin dungeon runs

not even a single bubpy seen

chirei pls ;-;

what did i even do dude, i'm not even farming bubpy right now, you can have them all

(http://i.imgur.com/8gvhwvW.png)

See?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 08, 2015, 04:08:30 PM
Maybe that's the problem; maybe you hunted em all down.  Chirei for extinctionist?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 08, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
We're way overdue for a descend challenge or something so everyone can load back up on piis. I'm tired of orb challenges, they just clog up my mailbox.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 08, 2015, 05:46:39 PM
mmh, this was easier than expected
(http://i.imgur.com/Lxfy668.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 08, 2015, 08:14:59 PM
Does Light Sprite expert have an increased +egg rate?
also the obligatory "which difficulty to run for shiron" question

Dorakyura, that team needs a Tametatrondra on it!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 08, 2015, 08:27:46 PM
Does Light Sprite expert have an increased +egg rate?
also the obligatory "which difficulty to run for shiron" question

It shouldn't have an increased +rate for any reason I know of, although survey dungeons seem to have have very good base rates.

As for what difficulty to run, I think the traditional way is Master during x0, Expert during x1.5 or x2.

Although if you just want Shirons unless you have multiple copies of the same thing to skillup, or it's exceptionally important to you, or you have a small stamina bar I'd be inclined to say don't even bother running it at all outside of double drops. That should get you mostly if not fully maxed out with minimal effort, and you can clean up in coin dungeons later if you need to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 08, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
Maybe that's the problem; maybe you hunted em all down.  Chirei for extinctionist?

Nah, he just knows that he's getting them because he doesn't want them. The piis can be mean, or they don't want to get eatan. One of those things.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 08, 2015, 08:40:00 PM
He is the Pii Whisperer
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 08, 2015, 10:24:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZjEyz9Ul.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ZjEyz9U.jpg)

Not too bad. Only problem spot was three synced big kittyslimes which meant I needed to MS one of them, but pretty easy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 08, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
See?
why


screw this, back to plus egg farming

its the only thing in this game that wont hurt me ;-;


speaking of which holy shit goemon makes this dungeon super fast

challenge mode with a team of rodins & goemons = press buttons receive +eggs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 08, 2015, 11:40:20 PM
Oh so Reco uses Sharon with Awoken Isis so you can get a guaranteed row in combo with Karin's active. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNXMO-lfX_w) And you still have 100% skill lock resist and another low cd active

Luckily I have her too :V

...I just need Karin.... this is gonna hurt even more than muse isnt it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 08, 2015, 11:53:15 PM
Oh so Reco uses Sharon with Awoken Isis so you can get a guaranteed row in combo with Karin's active. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNXMO-lfX_w) And you still have 100% skill lock resist and another low cd active

Luckily I have her too :V

...I just need Karin.... this is gonna hurt even more than muse isnt it
Karin shows up in 3x more than the Knights soo...MAYBE not?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 09, 2015, 02:45:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/OmhkdzU.jpg)

I guess I can't say I wasn't expecting a wave 1 invade.

awoken bastet pulling through again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 09, 2015, 03:43:23 AM
Man, this game can not give me a decent distribution of +eggs. I started from scratch on Ra, so I wasn't taking any previous imbalance into working on him. He's +215 right now, and he's already almost capped on attack. Last time it was recovery. I don't understand it. Do math gooder, PAD. It slows down my Star Vault runs by a lot if I have to sort the eggs during the time limit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 09, 2015, 04:28:50 AM
Ah yes the ur yandere of Japanese mythology showing her true colors (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/608122715354972160/photo/1)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 09, 2015, 05:34:37 AM
Ah yes the ur yandere of Japanese mythology showing her true colors (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/608122715354972160/photo/1)

OH MY GOD DIZA YESSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 09, 2015, 05:50:54 AM
Is that Mishaguji-sama in her sleeve?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 09, 2015, 05:54:52 AM
Red "Dante aka Akihiko" Odin (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/608148631288320001/photo/1)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 09, 2015, 06:18:15 AM
Chirei tries it for the first time: Dream Labyrinth

[01:54] <Chirei> uhhh
[01:54] <Chirei> something's wrong
[01:55] <Chirei> i just went into hello kitty collab with verd srank team
[01:55] <Chirei> i thought the first wave was supposed to be some weird disembodied cat head slimes
[01:55] <Chirei> but instead these 2 weird looking girls walked up to me and asked me if i wanted an apple
[01:55] <Chaore> chirei plz
[01:55] <trance|work> Chirei pls
[01:55] <Chirei> what do i do i just ate
[01:56] <Chaore> kill them.

(http://i.imgur.com/87TzkO3.png) (http://i.imgur.com/m5EDdSd.png)

now i feel bad for having beaten up two random girls trying to offer me food
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 09, 2015, 08:06:03 AM
Red "Dante aka Akihiko" Odin (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/608148631288320001/photo/1)

Speer? Musket? Eyepatch?
Is he out to hunt down some whales?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 09, 2015, 09:36:41 AM
Heads up - 3 compensation stones on 6/9 for extended maintenance and rejiggering of starvault that day. The fuck are all these losers talking about NA never getting free shit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 09, 2015, 12:38:57 PM
Speer? Musket? Eyepatch?
Is he out to hunt down some whales?

You are wrong, the whales will hunt him  :V

But seriously, first thought after seeing the image: "Captain Ahab!"

And DIza is awesome too! Damn me and my weakness to yanderes..... ::)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 09, 2015, 12:42:15 PM
GIVE ULT DIZA AND RODIN :*

Also I finally managed to skillmax Liu Bei that took entirely too long :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 09, 2015, 01:13:24 PM
Oh wow, compensation stones. Worst case scenario the delay lost me close to two stones (part of one for overflowing stamina, part of one for ranking up at the wrong time during Star Vault because I didn't have enough lead time). This more than covers that, and they moved the dungeon. Great. Super cool. Thank you, PAD.

What're we guessing for Izanami? I'm hoping for a skillboost, a prong, and a few stats. Could see bind immunity instead.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 09, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
Yay for compensation stones  :D

Btw, someone on PDX noted how similar the new DIza is to SEIGA KAKU!

TOUHOU COLLAB PLS!

Urgh, that would be the one collab to utterly kill my wallet....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 09, 2015, 01:27:18 PM
TOUHOU COLLAB PLS!

The only reason why I would switch to a green main team and abandon Nephthys.


Also, Matsuri, you could add Chibi LMeta as my second leader on the start page, I guess I will keep her there, for now (she is also max leveled hurray, have to find skillups, though...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 09, 2015, 02:37:29 PM
The only reason why I would switch to a green main team and abandon Nephthys.

Patchouli would make an HELL of a rainbow leader  :derp:

MFW after about 30 minutes of S-ranking Light Faerie and being so close to killing the boss my phone shut down and when i restart PAD i'm on floor 1.... -__-
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 09, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
But Patchouli is already in the ECO collab ...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 09, 2015, 04:50:20 PM
But Patchouli is already in the ECO collab ...

Check the highest rated comment in the ECO Dumpty Alma page of PDX  :D


Evo Unite is up..... i finally have mathematical proof that this game have hidden routines that check what you need and what would troll you the most.

3 runs:
Floor 1: need Fruit, zero Seed --> got 2 Plants and 1 Flower
Floor 2: need Mystic, Light, Dark --> got 2 Reds and 1 Blue
Floor 3: couldn't get trolled here since i need them all, although...... need Dub-Myth, Dub-Dark --> got Red, Green, Light
Floor 4: this one almost reached EPIC levels..... need all of them bar Light --> got 3 Light  :trollface:
Floor 5: at least i got all 3 Rainbows

Feels like i ran 3 Keeper of Rainbow at 35 stam cost instead of 30  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 09, 2015, 05:11:23 PM
I'm anti-superstition as a rule, but do we think maybe there's a chance not all materials have equal droprates?

In my experience (which includes plenty of confirmation bias I'm sure) it seems like skillup materials for rare special gods drop MUCH more often than materials for their more common counterparts.

Blue fruit is much more common than red and green from both Trifruits and the PEM. Devilit is way more common than Angit in Twinlits and PEM. The only thing they have in common is that they're tied to the "chase" special gods that fewer people have.

I'm not saying that this is true, but it is a pattern I've noticed and a tiny bit of a conspiracy theory that I have. Does this ring true to anyone else, or am I completely full of shit? Maybe I'll start recording my drops just to get a clearer (although still uselessly tiny) sample.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 09, 2015, 05:19:32 PM
I'm anti-superstition as a rule, but do we think maybe there's a chance not all materials have equal droprates?

Nothing says it isn't possible. I mean if you consider trifruits and a simple mathematical impossibility, it's impossible to completely evenly divide 100% into three equal percentages, so one of the fruits would have 33.4% drop rate, and there's technically nothing stopping them from entering individual drop rates for different units that way. Of course, this is assuming the drop rate works that way, and not say, it randomly first picks one of the three out of a roulette, and then checks to see what its drop rate is when the unit is selected. Either of these assumptions could be completely wrong though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 09, 2015, 05:25:51 PM
I've always assumed droprates were even just because so many people play PAD that we should be able to sniff out any abnormalities in drops, and I figured there would be a consensus if anything fishy was going on. But given that nobody has ever figured out the exact droprates for anything that isn't 100% I'm kind if starting to question that logic.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 09, 2015, 07:11:24 PM
Nothing says it isn't possible. I mean if you consider trifruits and a simple mathematical impossibility, it's impossible to completely evenly divide 100% into three equal percentages, so one of the fruits would have 33.4% drop rate, and there's technically nothing stopping them from entering individual drop rates for different units that way. Of course, this is assuming the drop rate works that way, and not say, it randomly first picks one of the three out of a roulette, and then checks to see what its drop rate is when the unit is selected. Either of these assumptions could be completely wrong though.

The second is basically confirmed- as in, one unit is chosen first, and then it's individual drop rate is chosen.

The first roll is obviously still possible of being different rates, but honestly it's more likely that people notice the rare fruits etc. more because they have less use for them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 09, 2015, 07:32:25 PM
The first roll is obviously still possible of being different rates, but honestly it's more likely that people notice the rare fruits etc. more because they have less use for them.

I agree, that is the most likely answer. But at the very least I can confirm that of my last 16 trifruits, 12 have been blue. And of my last 7 dublits, 5 were devilits.

That doesn't really mean anything, the most likely answer is coincidence, but I'm gonna start keeping track I guess. I mean, my PAD is on the same phone as my pad... notepad app.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 09, 2015, 08:55:58 PM
I have a theory about testing this.

1. Choose a pantheon to test with, preferably with a bunch of things you don't need.
2. Evo everything else in your box.
3. Un-Ult-Evo your test pantheon.
4. Run weekly dungeons and track your results
5. Sell the evo mats for 1 color without using any of the rest
6. Run weekly dungeons again
7. Repeat for various combinations of needed evo mats, including no evo mats needed.

My theory is that there really is a desire detector for things you *don't* have, which is why people get a million of Dark Mats when they need Light Mats.   Thus if you want to increase the drops of say, Dub-topalits, you need to have a bunch of them in your box.

This is undermined by the fact that GungHo can control the ratios behind the scenes, including standard gambling stuff like hidden hot and cold days, servers, hours, mats, etc.  There may even be a real AI running the show in the background, applying psychological heuristics to each player individually to increase purchasing. How many millions does this game make again?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 09, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
conspiracy theory

It turns out PAD is actually powered by Skynet all along.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 09, 2015, 09:19:03 PM
It turns out PAD is actually powered by Skynet all along.

You and Marisa here will regret not heeding my warnings!   :colbert:

(http://i.imgur.com/aJ5WVX4.jpg) (http://imgur.com/aJ5WVX4)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 09, 2015, 09:29:54 PM
Today has been a day of successes.
(http://i.imgur.com/nRKZFF9.png)(http://i.imgur.com/Dy3SQUi.png)(http://i.imgur.com/AdUz85H.png)

Liu Bei skillmaxed, Noah Mythical beaten for the first time, and Legendary Earth beaten for the first time. No Zaerog drop though. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 09, 2015, 09:33:58 PM
I think one time I did a joke run of Noah Mythical with
Noah/Sakuya/Leilan/Haku/Meimei/Noah

Sorry, Karin. Boat girl too strong.
I'll have to see if I can pull that off again.

No Apocalypse skill ups today. 2.5x is a liiiieee.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 09, 2015, 09:41:29 PM
For some reason I have an easy time buying this...

...standard gambling stuff like hidden hot and cold days, servers, hours, mats, etc....

But not any of this...

everything else

I guess because of the level of activity required to maintain scheduled hot times versus monitoring individual players' activity. It's not impossible by any means with an algorithm, but for some reason I find it to be very far-fetched. Seems too conspiracy to me, but what do I know?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 09, 2015, 09:50:25 PM
All of this is super conspiracy, seriously.

I've gone insanely ragey before at this game (as many can attest) and I've never gone this far, what :v

also
Today has been a day of successes.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h9GrxaL9_FM/VXdesei12pI/AAAAAAAABXg/ZAcvQaT_7dE/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

Thanks for the reminder I had something to do today.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 09, 2015, 10:04:06 PM
Today has been a day of successes.
(http://i.imgur.com/AdUz85H.png)

those 65 coins tho
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 09, 2015, 11:34:14 PM
Haku skill lock + no heart orbs = RIP stone


na pls

i need that ult


finally have ulti beelz though
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 10, 2015, 01:13:57 AM
i died to hello kitty

time to quit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 10, 2015, 01:21:58 AM
i died to hello kitty

time to quit

I just s-ranked it (Liu Bei/trash/trash/trash/trash/Verdandi) and it was surprisingly harrowing. The trash floors weren't too bad, but the boss was rougher than he would seem for all his shortcomings. I guess it was an oversight on my part that I brought two leaders with HP-dependent attack boosts, but I kept getting into situations where I was at almost no health (I barely had enough HP to tank his attack) and a board with a bunch of green on it that barely did any damage while I lucked out and had him give me a bunch of free heal orbs on the off turn. I think I got lucky getting as many hearts as I did or I'd have died for sure.

It's probably safe to do with a stall team, since the biggest damage comes on the triple silver slime floors, and they only hit hardest at low health which you can control. But as a ten floor dungeon I don't think I could be bothered to take the time with a 4/1.8/4 team. It would take forever.

But yeah, it's not super easy as s-ranks go just because the boss has just enough health and damage to be threatening.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 10, 2015, 02:17:24 AM
I've had better S-ranking plans than this before. (http://imgur.com/7n12wke)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 10, 2015, 02:24:40 AM
I've had better S-ranking plans than this before. (http://imgur.com/7n12wke)

If you're gonna s-rank a thing, may as well do it in style.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 10, 2015, 02:38:05 AM
I've had better S-ranking plans than this before. (http://imgur.com/7n12wke)

 :wat:

Jesus. Now I feel like even more of a chump for how many panic buttons I have to bring when I play rainbow teams.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 10, 2015, 03:09:42 AM
FULL HEALTH ONLY
FOUR/FIVE COLORS EVERY TURN
GET ONE SHOT KILLED BY MOBS YOU DON'T KILL
20x MULTIPLIER OR GO HOME

husband and wife team one-shot killed the boss, at least
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 10, 2015, 03:38:37 AM
husband and wife team one-shot killed the boss, at least

you mean father and daughter :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 10, 2015, 04:33:35 AM
I feel like Fagan teaching a Boisterous Dance to his daughter would be weird.

On the other hand, if Boisterous Dance is some type of mating ritual... [/awkward]

What is Kouryu's relation to Byakko/Genbu/Suzaku/Seiryu and Kirin, anyways? That's one of the few pantheons I'm not too familiar with.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 10, 2015, 04:45:34 AM
What is Kouryu's relation to Byakko/Genbu/Suzaku/Seiryu and Kirin, anyways? That's one of the few pantheons I'm not too familiar with.

In East Asian culture sometimes Kouryu/Huang Long is the 5th beast of the 4 cardinal guardians. Kouryu represents the "Center" and the "Earth," the Chinese "quintessence" and changing of seasons. However in Japanese mythology the 5th element is actually void or emptiness (空), so there is no animal for that. Hence they use the Japanese reading of Huanglong which is Kouryu.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 10, 2015, 06:32:46 AM
Dunno how to feel about DIza's ult. It's a straight upgrade for sure, but I wonder how viable of a leader she could be. That new LS (4x god and physical ATK with hp reduced "a little") could be great or horrible depending on how much that reduction is. Though having 3000 hp recovered every turn if you run her as leaders is nice.

ROdin's ult is fucking ridiculous and I'm going to start raising both of mine right away. Four fire rows, three skill boosts, and bind immunity. Holy shit. The Awoken Leilan compatibility is real.

I should invest in a goemon too...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 10, 2015, 06:36:56 AM
I should invest in a goemon too...

Yeah. basically rodin ult just superpowered Goemon farming teams.

In unrelated news, the next special descend dungeon --> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHHkEHTUYAA3q2S.png (UVO form)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 10, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
ROdin's ult is fucking ridiculous and I'm going to start raising both of mine right away. Four fire rows, three skill boosts, and bind immunity. Holy shit. The Awoken Leilan compatibility is real.

Holy sh*t indeed, those awakening are ungodly! I'm so freaking happy i just rolled him in the PCGF! :*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 10, 2015, 10:08:26 AM
by the way, here's something i should have done approximately 4 months ago.

(http://i.imgur.com/2lFLjUB.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 10, 2015, 11:52:24 AM
Question for JP players: when i reached rank 40 i received a message with some words highlighted in yellow.... i don't remember anything of the sort in NA. Anyone know what it said?

Update on Osiris training: urgh, i swear i would be friggin' perfect with a 5+ combo god, although my rate of activation IS improving.
The drought of good friend leads AND appropriate subs is quite problematic.... i literally reached Tomb of the Saint - Deep and Castle of Satan in the Abyss with Osiris - Delgado - Extreme Fatty (x3)  and my "highest levelled" is Osiris base form at an amazing lv28 :V

Thanks god for the jp event giving out Extreme Fatty like candy  :blush: although i DO have a truckload of Pengdras waiting to be evolved.....


EDIT: Welp, cleared COSITA too  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 10, 2015, 12:31:04 PM
Seems weird that Izanami's biggest buff seems to have been to her leader skill despite her popularity coming from being a good sub. Even if her leader skill is great suddenly I don't see her becoming a viable lead with no offensive awakenings and a defensive active.

Maybe she can pull off some kind of weird hybid team, but she really wanted skillboosts and/or an offensive awakening, especially if they want her to lead. Autoheal is only worth anything if you have a lot if them, and she does now especially if you run two of her, but I still think it's a bad awakening.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 10, 2015, 01:45:11 PM
Question for JP players: when i reached rank 40 i received a message with some words highlighted in yellow.... i don't remember anything of the sort in NA. Anyone know what it said?

Slot 1 of friend leaders is activated at rank 40
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 10, 2015, 03:06:51 PM
Gadius/Typhon/Zuoh/Ilm confirmed for brawlPAD KR's upcoming godfest.  We knew it was coming, but it's nice to have confirmation finally.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 10, 2015, 06:04:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/fbpKPp6l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/fbpKPp6.jpg)

it took much too long for this to happen but it has now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 10, 2015, 06:20:55 PM
Eat it loser
(http://i.imgur.com/diOdIMA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1OCUNKg.jpg)

Revenge is sweet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 10, 2015, 06:48:57 PM
Now if only I could do that...

;_;

I do not have the patience to deal with if I screw up too much thoughon Phoenix again, plus my max LS mult would still only be 15x as opposed to 25x,which obviously would hurt my chances.

IfI pull Minerva sometime Ill look into it again, but for now I will stick to HK collab.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 10, 2015, 06:51:11 PM
Vulcan makes me wish I had a water team worth a damn, tbh.

Trying to verdandi it sounds like absolute hell.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 10, 2015, 07:25:39 PM
Yeah I'm starting at my box and I have no idea how I'd tackle Zeus Volcano Asshole RIP in pieces me  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 10, 2015, 07:26:20 PM
That was actually my second try. I owe my win to my team's great resilience and durability over power. Doing it with wood was complete bullshit but I don't think I could have done it any other way.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 10, 2015, 07:49:38 PM
That was actually my second try. I owe my win to my team's great resilience and durability over power. Doing it with wood was complete bullshit but I don't think I could have done it any other way.

My only plan here is honestly 'pray my haku board with pandora has 9 water orbs.'

...that requires getting to vulcan with a horrifically underleveled team to boot.

This dungeon really just hard counters everything I have right now, and it's super annoying, because it's the best place to get this piece of crap bird that doesn't drop like 80% of the time anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 10, 2015, 08:00:16 PM
ROdin's ult is fucking ridiculous and I'm going to start raising both of mine right away. Four fire rows, three skill boosts, and bind immunity. Holy shit. The Awoken Leilan compatibility is real.

The Uriel/Wangren Dream Team is real with this ult.

Him, Uriel and Wangren already gives me 6 rows, plus amenouzume friend gives me 7, do I even need anymore? lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 10, 2015, 08:06:08 PM
Wow, yeah, that's horrifying. Didn't even occur to me. You technically probably don't need more rows.

So the team is what, Uriel/Yamato Takeru/Flamme/Wangren/Ame or Rodin? At least ideally? No damage boost or delay means some bosses are tricky, but that damage is nutballs. Wow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 10, 2015, 08:11:27 PM
Uriel/Wangren/Rodin is definitely in it, yeah, the last two slots are pretty tricky though. Femme or Gigas depending if I need more HP or more RCV for the dungeon in question, but the last slot could have dear old echidna in case the delay is that necessary.

Otherwise, Yamato Takeru would be the ideal last slot, yeah. With so much damage I don't think the damage boost is really required tbh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 10, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
The damage boost is pretty much there to kill things that resist you or to kill buff midbosses without needing to leader swap.

If you have the choice, I'd say go with Flamme pretty much all the time. You're going to need a ton of recovery to stall, and your team has waaaay less than mine naturally. Negative recovery is not good for you. Ame gives you a better recovery modifier than me in emergencies, but you have less healers.

I almost might be inclined to say that in your case Mitsuki could be preferable to Takeru even just to give you more hearts to work with. 2x+ recovery sounds like a lot, but you won't always have enough for hardcore stalling. I have multiple members with over a thousand recovery and I still need more sometimes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 10, 2015, 08:54:20 PM
You keep saying Flamme (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1591) instead of Femme and I wonder "how is fire skyfall boost going to help with recovery?" Maybe I just need more sleep. orz

Also this happened.

(http://i.imgur.com/lVLUd5Pl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/lVLUd5P.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 10, 2015, 09:17:59 PM
You keep saying Flamme (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1591) instead of Femme

Wuuuuutevuuuur.

Noted. :derp:

and I wonder "how is fire skyfall boost going to help with recovery?" Maybe I just need more sleep. orz

By increasing your combo count I guess? :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 10, 2015, 09:55:39 PM
It looks like tomorrow is going to be my chance to finally destroy Beorc.

I look forward to the victory.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 11, 2015, 03:21:00 AM
oh yeah i still haven't picked a best friend, whoops been missing out on some pal points

who wants to do the bf illuminati thing
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 11, 2015, 03:54:02 AM
oh yeah i still haven't picked a best friend, whoops been missing out on some pal points

who wants to do the bf illuminati thing

My BF selection has been exhausted already, as have most people on the pad IRC's, but there might be a few left.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 11, 2015, 03:55:06 AM
I would say pick me but I have nothing of use for Isis :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 11, 2015, 04:06:04 AM
Everyone should just BFF me because I got you all hooked on this fucking game :colbert:

Seriously though, new godfest girls are pretty great.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 11, 2015, 04:13:43 AM
I might be up for illuminati shenanigans, I'm not sure though, I'd kinda like to pick someone with takeru...

edit: nevermind isis let me down, she goes the depths below
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 11, 2015, 06:30:57 AM
Everyone should just BFF me because I got you all hooked on this fucking game :colbert:

Seriously though, new godfest girls are pretty great.

I'll keep this in mind. I really want someone with a plussed healer Kirin though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 11, 2015, 06:35:22 AM
I still haven't picked my best friend.

idk suikama you could use my horus with your isis I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 11, 2015, 07:15:09 AM
I'm not sure though, I'd kinda like to pick someone with takeru...

if you are fine with his basic form without skillups  :derp:

oh yeah i still haven't picked a best friend, whoops been missing out on some pal points

who wants to do the bf illuminati thing

You should bff me. Sisters should stick together, you know?  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 11, 2015, 08:43:34 AM
Urgh, while i have already selected my BF, i doubt any of my leads can be of use to you guys... and apart from Ronia (and a bit on Godin and Karin) +eggs are almost non-existent

But i offer myself anyway! (god, that came out wrong  :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 11, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
I still didn't use mine either whoops who likes hypermaxed LMeta and either LKali or Parvati next I still haven't decided :V

(preferably someone who isn't already swimming in bff's)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 11, 2015, 11:49:15 AM
Everyone should just BFF me because I got you all hooked on this fucking game :colbert:

Seriously though, new godfest girls are pretty great.
If anything this is a reason NOT to.  IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 11, 2015, 12:07:48 PM
Next Tuesday is my one year PAD anniversary. Edible did not, in fact, get me into PAD. I downloaded it because I was bored in the waiting room of a garage waiting for my tires to be rotated. My car was diagnosed with $2000 worth of jacked up suspension, and to this day I haven't addressed that problem at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 11, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
I invite people who play Lkali BFF me.

pls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 11, 2015, 12:29:28 PM
Edible did not, in fact, get me into PAD.

I actually only got into PAD off remembering a passing mention from rdj when I acquired a smartphone about a year later, and coincidentally he is the recipient of my single Best Friend request.

Also,

(preferably someone who isn't already swimming in bff's)

I already have five bffs don't pick me, people
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 11, 2015, 12:54:10 PM
I don't really need an Isis bf cuz my list is already flooded with her

It would actually be more helpful if someone ran another hypermaxed water leader like skuld or something so I always have an option for things like no dupe dungeons

Also my other leaders I can put up include:
Ronia, Goemon, Hino
Reine, Andromeda, Nut, Skuld, Neptune
Vedandi, Kushi, Meimei
Athena, Ammy, Wukong, Valkitty
Beelz, Pandora, Okuni, Luci

I already have five bffs don't pick me, people
chirei pls

u r like the rich pad billionare with all your ranks and your pys and your friends
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 11, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
chirei pls

u r like the rich pad billionare with all your ranks and your pys and your friends

but i'm poor as fuck in real life and that's why i non-iap, what is this being rich thing

...and I recently hyper'd my skuld, but adding any more bffs to my pile would further tip the scales towards imbalance  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 11, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
chirei pls

u r like the rich pad billionare with all your ranks and your pys and your friends

If I have 7 BFFs, what does that make me?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 11, 2015, 01:57:43 PM
If I have 7 BFFs, what does that make me?

Chirei's soulmate  :V

P.S. Never thought i would see the day when i was hoping to drop something just to use my hoarded pengdras/mats and not being forced to buy more space.... thanks god in a few hours i'll be able to run the low spirits dungeon so that i can evolve my..... Blue Dragon  :V
I've got to the point that i'm levelling Tunabowl that i incredibly dropped in the lowest level of difficulty. Actually, that would even help me since i'm running 3 Extreme Fatty that are Gods XDD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 11, 2015, 03:00:53 PM
Chirei's soulmate  :V

I have no soul
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 11, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
I have no soul

You have Alraune  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 11, 2015, 03:48:14 PM
Blergh.

I've been brainlessly making 6-matches for so long with Ronia that every combo I make seems to go to 6 sans skyfalls at this point.  I'm going to need to gear up to 7 for Bastet...

Edit: Speaking of brainless, accidentally went into Thursday Mythical somehow instead of HK collab with my Parvati team.  "Oh shit I might be in troub-" (obliterates plants)

Even got a red fruit, how nice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 11, 2015, 06:27:28 PM
fmmfl
(http://i.imgur.com/frfLV2H.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 11, 2015, 08:01:49 PM
Dropped a bunch of stamina on light sprite during 1.5x.  Zero fairies, zero shirons.

Yeah, fuck skilling up these guys. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 11, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
Blergh.

I've been brainlessly making 6-matches for so long with Ronia that every combo I make seems to go to 6 sans skyfalls at this point.  I'm going to need to gear up to 7 for Bastet...


Rather than aiming for 7, doing 6 is pretty reasonable as long as you're fitting in TPAs. You can strain your brain to do 7 combos only when against strong bosses, or when you only have 4 green orbs and you need to deal millions or something.

also kaede so gud pls giff ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 11, 2015, 10:14:36 PM
I don't really need an Isis bf cuz my list is already flooded with her

It would actually be more helpful if someone ran another hypermaxed water leader like skuld or something so I always have an option for things like no dupe dungeons

what the hell is having a viable water leader


...i could work on awoken lakshmi prolly, You have any plans for that Wukong?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 11, 2015, 10:17:31 PM
So I got something strange from the PEM this evening.

(http://i.imgur.com/S4A2RvQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 11, 2015, 10:21:45 PM
I need that for Shiva plz give

will trade Ascooby Doobis for it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 11, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
it a bird
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 11, 2015, 10:27:41 PM
It a birb that I feed to skill up other birb.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 11, 2015, 10:37:24 PM
So I got something strange from the PEM this evening.

(http://i.imgur.com/S4A2RvQ.jpg)

... ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 12, 2015, 12:54:48 AM
trapped with nothing better to do than to stone for stamina on trifruit

10 yellow dragon fruit & 7 red dragon fruit just to get 2 blue dragon fruit.  Unfortunately I left my tin foil hat at home.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 12, 2015, 01:18:54 AM
trapped with nothing better to do than to stone for stamina on trifruit

10 yellow dragon fruit & 7 red dragon fruit just to get 2 blue dragon fruit.  Unfortunately I left my tin foil hat at home.

I been keeping track, I'm at three consecutive green followed by three consecutive blue today.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 12, 2015, 02:10:58 AM
Wow Sarasvati you need to tone down that hate, it's just a bunch of high ruby dragons

(http://i.imgur.com/Ycof7Dr.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 12, 2015, 02:30:01 AM
new godfest with Gadius and friends confirmed

it's also got egypt 1, but no Chinese girls so ehh i dont really need it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 12, 2015, 02:31:34 AM
It earns precisely 1 yoloroll
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 12, 2015, 02:40:27 AM
#yolodupeisisthedream
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 12, 2015, 02:52:37 AM
It earns precisely 1 yoloroll
This is probably my plan as well. I'd roll the day with Parvati, but she's the only thing I really want from that day so there's really little reason for me to do so when I like a lot of the Egyptians and also would like I&I so...yeah, one roll day 1 should do it for me.

A shame Odins are at 1x though that day, but oh well, can't have everything.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 12, 2015, 03:35:27 AM
I will roll for any of the new dudes or Bastet.

With my luck, any gold will be a third Ra. :V

MEANWHILE...

[23:29:05] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> DIE
[23:29:07] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> STAY DEAD
[23:29:09] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> FUCK YOU BEORC
[23:29:14] <trance|work> did you mur-- yes you did.
[23:29:15] <trance|work> grats!
[23:29:22] Tomoshibi-Matsuri roars
[23:29:27] <trance|work> I think Beorc is the worst hera to fight
[23:29:29] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> My archnemesis is dead.
[23:29:34] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> Fucking Beorc.
[23:29:41] <trance|work> Even in Hera-Rush Beorc is literally the goddamn worst.
[23:29:41] <T-A-C> Legend or Mythical
[23:29:45] <trance|work> Photosynthesis can go DIAF
[23:29:45] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> Mythical
[23:30:00] <T-A-C> I still have to beat her on Legend
[23:30:13] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> The irony is that I still managed to kill her after stalling for-fucking-ever because I got skillbound by levia
[23:30:13] <T-A-C> and go redo Ur because she cheated me out of her drop
[23:30:25] <~rdj522> Okay, let's go beat up a bunch of super golds (and Zeus I guess) with Sailor Moon music in the background. Because yes.
[23:30:55] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> the scary bit was that I brought Kushi to counter skill bind AND Jupiter Genesis
[23:31:16] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> guess who got skillbound and then decided to get bound right as I was going for the final blow
[23:31:23] <Tomoshibi-Matsuri> This is my luck with Beorc.

(http://i.imgur.com/vR7xT2W.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 12, 2015, 03:55:50 AM
can confirm, beorc is by far the worst

also a 6 Ra team is actually pretty useful for fast farming :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 12, 2015, 04:03:41 AM

also a 6 Ra team is actually pretty useful for fast farming :V

awoken ra system :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 12, 2015, 04:21:10 AM
results of super gold farming as mentioned in the chatlog

(http://i.imgur.com/3Issfb8l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/3Issfb8.jpg)

soon...ish, depending on when the skill change gets here
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 12, 2015, 05:25:01 AM
okay cool i got the mats for bg sun quan finally

2 stones down the drain for stam refills tho
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 12, 2015, 06:21:28 AM
I rolled a lot today.

Two of those rolls let me do this:

(http://i.imgur.com/UVDul4x.jpg)

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 12, 2015, 06:27:01 AM
jp murder result: neptune, I&I, hatsume, andromeda 3, famiel, creuse, urd, green dragon knight

so in short: this hatsume can't possibly save this godfest this much

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3MFa8Q4lfQQ/VXp7aWbhc8I/AAAAAAAABaw/_mMSfx2SBOQ/w428-h685-no/15%2B-%2B1)

pro mlg andromeda strats

my blue basically got 12 million times more viable on this account almost instantly though
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 12, 2015, 09:48:23 AM
jp murder result: neptune, I&I, hatsume, andromeda 3, famiel, creuse, urd, green dragon knight


I&I, Sarasvati, Beast Rider, Shalon here
the blue carnival is real.

also a dupe green odin, damnit :V
It feels so long since I pulled a green pantheon god ;; Last one was like back in October or something, that's 8 months.
And I tell myself I main green. :V what a joke
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 12, 2015, 12:16:44 PM
Ah! Give! Give one JP Andro please!

And yeah, I main blue, but my laat blue pantheon god was Umiyama in December. And before that was Sun Quan and before that was Gabe, and that's just all of the blue pantheon gods I own.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 12, 2015, 01:27:54 PM
First time ever rolling in a JP GF:

- Gabriel
- Verdandi  :*
- Kano
- Tsubaki
- Light Wee Jas

Now to clear challenges like hell to get some more rolls  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on June 12, 2015, 01:35:55 PM
So, I just started this game about a week ago and I got Sakuya as my in my second roll who I'm using as my main now. Any advice for me in making a team around her work for early game?

I currently have a fire main one (Have other orbs but main damage is fire) but my water starter is starting to lag behind (Can't find that stupid leafy thing).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 12, 2015, 02:06:02 PM
So, I just started this game about a week ago and I got Sakuya as my in my second roll who I'm using as my main now. Any advice for me in making a team around her work for early game?

I currently have a fire main one (Have other orbs but main damage is fire) but my water starter is starting to lag behind (Can't find that stupid leafy thing).

I think for the most part, Sakuya's multiplier is already so absurd that you can afford to just use whatever as subs. Maybe use some subs that would increase bulk/add support with active skills? Seems to more or less hold for later-game Sakuya builds as well. hyorinryu would know more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 12, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
I think for the most part, Sakuya's multiplier is already so absurd that you can afford to just use whatever as subs. Maybe use some subs that would increase bulk/add support with active skills? Seems to more or less hold for later-game Sakuya builds as well. hyorinryu would know more.

I can't speak for Sakuya per se, but for Kali, who has much better damage output than Sakuya, that's not really true in late game. Maybe it is with the new Kali and her additional modifier for six combos, but at just x5, even with prongs she needs help to kill some tougher monsters.

Maybe the difference is that Sakuya just plans on tanking hits occasionally, but I don't think expecting to one-shot everything is reasonable. In the late game anyway, early on she's probably great for that.

Edit: That also may just be because I suck at combo gods. Still just awful at them. Maybe a better Kali player could just bash through bosses without help.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 12, 2015, 03:18:14 PM
I can't speak for Sakuya per se, but for Kali, who has much better damage output than Sakuya, that's not really true in late game. Maybe it is with the new Kali and her additional modifier for six combos, but at just x5, even with prongs she needs help to kill some tougher monsters.

super ult sakuya can do higher damage than lkali if you stack orb enhances
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 12, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
Lessee. Between double Sakuyas and a Light Valk, I have six orb enhances. Not only are all skyfall light orbs automatically +'d, but each TPA has a boost of 1.61x - a little bit higher than an actual TPA.
Basically, the entire team gets a TPA for free from having those three members alone, and actual double-dongers like LZL and LKali become triple-dongers.

I suppose some comparisons on "Sakuya might need to tank a hit" should be made, too.
Sakuya has proportionally more stats in the "survival" department; her 4000/380 HP/RCV is a little more rounded than LKali's 3000/630 stats. Needless to say, Sakuya singlehandedly contributes 5000 HP when +'d, so meeting certain thresholds is a lot easier.

Moreover, a lot of Sakuya's ideal homies have rather high RCV; Apollo has a startling 3350 HP and 490 RCV despite what people say about Physical types. Light Valkyrie is appreciated a lot more on Sakuya than LKali, so that's a hefty chunk of RCV. Because Sakuya needs to match green regardless, fielding Godin for his massive lance HP and auto-heal is viable. Or Awoken Ceres, for cleric things, too.

The big-name damage reductions in NA either Susano, Kushi, and DIzanami; while LKali can run that double DIzy setup, that requires, you know, two DIzy. The other options are totally Sakuya friendly and allow her to facetank even more than she normally could.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 12, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
Interesting. So what's the outcome then? Does she need help to one-shot bosses? Does she even plan to one-shot them?

I can't speak for actual Kali mains, but for me the plan is to sweep through any floors with fragile enemies, stall with my good recovery on weaker floors to set up the board and recharge, and one-shot tough bosses with Kali active+Sun Quan. I really can't see it working in a lot of descends without Sun Quan, Muse, or some other damage enhance. How does that compare and contrast with Sakuya?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 12, 2015, 04:41:44 PM
Interesting. So what's the outcome then? Does she need help to one-shot bosses? Does she even plan to one-shot them?

I can't speak for actual Kali mains, but for me the plan is to sweep through any floors with fragile enemies, stall with my good recovery on weaker floors to set up the board and recharge, and one-shot tough bosses with Kali active+Sun Quan. I really can't see it working in a lot of descends without Sun Quan, Muse, or some other damage enhance. How does that compare and contrast with Sakuya?

I dunno how people are doing it right now, but the most used team I see people using clear XEC is just lots of LKalis on a team. I am going to assume that she is somehow capable of dealing out crazy ass damage by default.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 12, 2015, 05:07:02 PM
Huh. I suppose Sakuya needs a red mob somewhere; LKali doesn't need a green mob so she doesn't appreciate Sakuya as much.

Makes sense. Duly noted.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 12, 2015, 05:45:43 PM
(http://imgur.com/GEN1gTN.jpg)

Here's a picture of me doing the most basic possible full activation of Kali. Six combos, all of her activation colors, including a single white two-prong. It's a little tricky to see how much damage that is exactly, but it seems to be in the ~2.5 million range.

My team isn't optimal in this configuration because I either need one more Kali or an Awoken Ra lead to max out on white, but that's fairly modest damage. Again, it's a basic activation and my combo count could be way higher, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect it to always be higher
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 12, 2015, 05:59:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Al3DrGY.jpg)
Likewise, have one of mine with six combos (to replicate the combo damage), x25 damage with only one light TPA.

Indeed, +297 Sakuya should be hitting for 300,000+ herself once her TPA ult comes in. Of greater interest is that LZL is doing super crazy damage by essentially having three TPAs, almost reaching a +297 LKaki at x36, despite having no +Atk eggs and "Healer" tier-attack.

Also ignore the HP pool; Izanagi is level 25 and Attackerasu is really sub-optimal.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 12, 2015, 06:05:35 PM
Here's a picture of me doing the most basic possible full activation of Kali. Six combos, all of her activation colors, including a single white two-prong.

it's a basic activation and my combo count could be way higher, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect it to always be higher

*sloooowly improving on his activation of Osiris without even bothering with 2prong....*
I feel like a scrub now  :smokedcheese:

Oh well, sooner or later i'll get there  :) (although i shudder thinking of those that mains A.Ra or Anubis, heck even A. Bastet.....)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 12, 2015, 06:22:54 PM
So what I'm seeing here is, neither of these teams are really capable of one-shotting buff (4-5 million hp) bosses outright without actives, at least reliably. What do you think? If those pengras were a boss about to kill you and you were comboing all-out rather than trying to duplicate my combo are you confident you could just kill it?

And of course, if our thesis is "Sakuya can afford to run all utility subs because her modifier provides enough damage", the thing we haven't talked about is her active. 36% gravity from two Sakuyas is notable. It takes a four million health boss down to a fairly manageable 2.56. You can only do that every so often, but it's not common to see multiple threatening floors in a row with more than a couple million health.

When it comes to REALLY scary bosses in the 5-6 million health range things start to look more grim, but those are often dark so far, so maybe it's not too bad.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 12, 2015, 08:22:47 PM
It just occurred to me that I may have to hyper Isis as a Skuld sub. At this rate, she's standing behind like 3 other dudes in line, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 12, 2015, 10:22:36 PM
friday dungeon pls

all i want are devilits

but i keep getting DIETOSKYFALLITS :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 12, 2015, 11:44:47 PM
all I want is dub-mythlits, but I keep getting orbstopmovinglits
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 13, 2015, 12:01:37 AM
Hmm. I think the comparison is, LKali has more sustained damage. At any given point, you're likely to have the combos available to trigger x36. The total orb power might not give you much Light attack, but you have so much doubledonger power and board conversions that you can get by.

Contrast with Sakuya, who needs to drop an active to hit x36. Sure, six orb enhances between 2x Sakuya+Valk means that everyone passively gets a TPA, but the shortest and most popular active skill is still Valk at 5 turns. Granted, this means that Sakuya's x36 turns will usually be very powerful.

Also of note is that the Light orbs generated by heartbreakers will not be enhanced unless you do so yourself. Athena is low enough on cd; LZL has healing attached that you make up for the hearts you just broke. Takeminakata adds a lot of bulk; Hera-Sowilo has a damage reduction to boot!

The last trump card that Sakuya has is that so many orb enhances will shine when your board is saturated with light orbs.  If given the chance to set up, Sakuya is a world destroying monster. (http://imgur.com/94j51ap) This doesn't happen very frequently unless you have an Apollo active, or the boss converts dark to light for you or something, though.

LKali? You have board conversions up the wazoo that ensure you're going to deal -some- damage. That's more than Sakuya can say, being very susceptible to orb trolling unless she fields her own LKali. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 01:10:09 AM
finally pandora ulted

oh why hello there sonia grand
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 13, 2015, 01:17:08 AM
Died to Ronia if not only because of that FUCKING combo drain. I hate those so goddamn much.

If I can just get past her.... I think I can do this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 13, 2015, 01:29:25 AM
friday dungeon pls

all i want are devilits either lits Kali pls

but i keep getting DIETOSKYFALLITS :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:

EDIT:  THIRTEEN FUCKING SKY COMBO WHAT IS THIS SHIT  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 01:34:53 AM
oh hey you can beat sonia grand with skuld?

well fuck it, aIsis wont be here for another like 4 months and they share pretty much the same subs so might as well dump all my exp into her

we skuldboys now lets go

>turn 1 wood dragon
>nothing i can do

fuck this


also fuck my friend list has like 1 skuld

okay whoever has a hypermaxed skuld or andromeda i'm BFing you right now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 13, 2015, 01:43:31 AM
Hands are still shaking. (http://imgur.com/ew6F8qh)

Man. I didn't expect myself to actually
use Sakuya as my "fuck this shit, this is being no-stoned" leader again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 01:56:16 AM
fucking bullshit again

followed a guide step by step

made it to ronia

turns out their method of beating ronia was "get lucky with a skyfall"

yeah thanks


I'm so glad I spent all those stones just to set this up
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 13, 2015, 02:06:37 AM
Sakuya game-plan

Wave 1: encountered green dragon
oops gotta heal
At least I have three turns to not get orb trolled
Wave 2: encounter blue dragon
oops I one-shot it
Wave 3: Shit it's Blue Sonia
Managed to combo it up to sustain myself until I could actually attack. Woot.
Wave 4: Shit it's Green Sonia
Dropped a Sakuya gravity just for safety. Didn't get orb-trolled, RUN IS STILL ALIVE
Wave 5: Shit it's Red Sonia
SHIT SHE BOUND LZL
I HAVE SIX HEAL ORBS ATTACKERASU GOGOGOGOGOGO
Wave 6: SHIT I'M AT THE BOSS
let's use Big Dog to weaken her down -does 35%-
can't proc Sakuya this board
-am crying-
Eats poison attack, heals it off, uses second Sakuya gravity to bring Sonia to a kill range

LIGHT ZHUGE LIAAAAAAAAAAANG
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 13, 2015, 02:14:45 AM
First try! I really want to see how i'd hold up against Wave 1 Graviton, though.

(http://i.imgur.com/mU4lcFY.png) (http://i.imgur.com/9nrzjmS.png) (http://i.imgur.com/aqkXyXp.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 02:26:13 AM
oh right Skuld actually has ridiculous RCV

fuck me all I needed to do was stall on Ronia argggggg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 13, 2015, 02:27:43 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/LaXaTl3l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/LaXaTl3.jpg)

crap crap crap crap crap

(http://i.imgur.com/LGxnSqVl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/LGxnSqV.jpg)

okay we're good now

(http://i.imgur.com/qjNSQRll.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/qjNSQRl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/8EGgInIl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/8EGgInI.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 13, 2015, 02:37:28 AM
okay whoever has a hypermaxed skuld or andromeda i'm BFing you right now

Do you need mine up again? I'll throw it up as many times as you like if you're saving your BF for someone else with better compatiability still.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 02:45:57 AM
well i'm all out of stamina anyways now <_<

I also went to padx and added every +297 skuld i could find so tomorrow hopefully i'll have a bunch more tries
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 13, 2015, 02:47:24 AM
well i'm all out of stamina anyways now <_<

I also went to padx and added every +297 skuld i could find so tomorrow hopefully i'll have a bunch more tries

Dang. Well feel free to poke me tomorrow somehow if that doesn't pan out, I always have hyper Skuld in slot 2.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 13, 2015, 02:48:27 AM
Went at it with double Beelzebub. Actually no-stoned!

I got hit by Zero Laser when she had 5%~ of her HP left.
Cyclone Devil Dragon resisted it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 13, 2015, 02:52:21 AM
Blue Carnival too stronk pls nerf

14 rolls 10 golds
3 on-fes: GrOdin, Isis, Tsubaki
6 blue-carnival: Beast Riders x2, Shalon, I&I, Sarasvati, Neptune
1 off-ges: Cerebus Rider

Considering I got like 6 non-dupes I should be happy but
the lack of green except green odin in the past months is killing me. :colonveeplusalpha:

Time to test out suikama's best girl's awoken form I guess
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 13, 2015, 04:28:08 AM
Oh shit, I didn't realize White Sonia was up today. I'd give it a shot, but I need my stamina to keep doing Twinlits. I got a skillup on both Kalis already, I'm actually feeling the 2.5x skillups this time around, so I don't want to waste a second of this opportunity.

I'll deal with Gran tomorrow. Shouldn't be too much trouble. The hardest part seems to be knocking her below half without killing her. My damage is a little hard to control at that level. Or maybe I should just bring my trusty Awoken Neptune buddy to be absolutely sure I can tank her forever. I can even take a Draggie-enhanced Divine Star with Neptune. That might be the way to do it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 05:32:26 AM
wtf

first time i made triple rows and killed green sonia in one hit


now i do double row + TPA and it failed to kill

and I only have 3 row awakenings but 7 TPAs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 13, 2015, 07:23:01 AM
wtf

first time i made triple rows and killed green sonia in one hit


now i do double row + TPA and it failed to kill

and I only have 3 row awakenings but 7 TPAs

Rows boost the whole team; TPAs only boost the monster with the TPAs, so actually even if you have 7 total TPAs they may not be distributed evenly?

In other news, I beat the desire sensor

(http://i.imgur.com/hbSLvHR.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 13, 2015, 07:30:22 AM
Considering I got like 6 non-dupes I should be happy but
the lack of green except green odin in the past months is killing me. :colonveeplusalpha:


(http://i.imgur.com/aZFCP0m.png)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

In other news, I beat the desire sensor

High five!

btw Suikama, it probably has to do with how the TPA bonus only applies to the 4 orbs you cleared, but not for the 6 orb combos aka it's not worth it to mix rows and TPAs in the same combo if your main bonus is TPAs.
Two rows only get you x1.6 on everyone, but x1.6x3.375 for Blue Odin only on for the 4 orb combo worth of damage
If you did 3 TPAs you'd have gotten x3.375(*3*1.25 because three 4 orb combos) on Blue Odin alone and I'm not sure what else you got but I think it's probably more beneficial that way.
In terms of numbers, on Blue Odin, the multiplier is (1.6*1.75*2+1.6*3.375*1.25) vs (3.375*3*1.25)
Consider you could've made 4 TPAs if you tried hard enough too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 13, 2015, 07:56:25 AM
Note for people regarding Kingly Triumph Gift Dungeon:

-When you go into a dungeon, PAL points are already distributed whether you beat it or not. A person trying to squeeze the most out of their stamina can just enter and exit Kingly Triumph to effectively exchange 1 Stamina for 5, 10, or 100 Pal Points depending on what kind of friend leader was used - but no other rewards. Use at your own discretion.

With the 288 regenerated Stamina a day and 288 Best Friends, someone could technically bang out 28,800 PAL points a day just doing nothing but this, and that's only using the friends on their end. Of course, this is probably nigh impossible to set up since of the absurd amount of BFs required, but probably not a bad idea if you hadn't used your BFs today and need to send them their PAL points really fast before bed or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Aoshi-shi on June 13, 2015, 08:15:33 AM
yolo
(http://i.imgur.com/DfOP2F0.png)
shit

Also, anyone here not have a BFF yet? I haven't used mine yet. (Who LMeta/Athena here?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 13, 2015, 08:56:33 AM
I'm so tired of my goddamm Vamp NOT being max skilled.... half of the descent i've not cleared yet have some shit on floor 1 (or need Lu Bu >_>) next time Poring Tower comes around i'll spam it until my phone break....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 13, 2015, 09:03:43 AM
I GOT A VERDANDI FIRST ROLL

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

MY AWOKEN BASTET WILL LIVE WHEN HER ULT COMES OUT YES
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 13, 2015, 09:42:08 AM
Also, anyone here not have a BFF yet? I haven't used mine yet. (Who LMeta/Athena here?)

The people I can think off the top of my head with both of those are jq, Arashi(chibi LMeta), and triangles. I don't know for sure if they actually have BFFs already though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 13, 2015, 11:37:27 AM
Commandercool bff'd Moogs for having those exact leaders hypermaxed. See about him?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 13, 2015, 11:58:04 AM
Hah, she already got mine in the end because she has some less-than-common stuff that I sometimes like messing with.

Oh right, I did my one roll and Zuoh popped out.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 13, 2015, 01:53:39 PM
Luck's been looking in my direction these past couple of weeks.

(http://i.imgur.com/blIcLVH.png) (http://i.imgur.com/J9BSxNd.png) (http://i.imgur.com/iMhX9BC.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/U96BhC4.png) (http://i.imgur.com/yRpgHJU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/dvzIV0Y.png)

Awoken Leilan SLV4 = Pulled today
Max-skilled Cao Cao today
Max-skilled Sarasvati today
Maxed out Awoken Kagu, only plus
Pulled new 6* GFE Kaede today
B/D Karin = Pulled today
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aZFCP0m.png)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

High five!

btw Suikama, it probably has to do with how the TPA bonus only applies to the 4 orbs you cleared, but not for the 6 orb combos aka it's not worth it to mix rows and TPAs in the same combo if your main bonus is TPAs.
Two rows only get you x1.6 on everyone, but x1.6x3.375 for Blue Odin only on for the 4 orb combo worth of damage
If you did 3 TPAs you'd have gotten x3.375(*3*1.25 because three 4 orb combos) on Blue Odin alone and I'm not sure what else you got but I think it's probably more beneficial that way.
In terms of numbers, on Blue Odin, the multiplier is (1.6*1.75*2+1.6*3.375*1.25) vs (3.375*3*1.25)
Consider you could've made 4 TPAs if you tried hard enough too.
i dont have bodin though i only have weenie single TPAs and double TPA reine

anyways I went full rows instead with Andromeda and that did the trick

I don't think I'll be farming this dungeon though because Ronia was still really tricky with her combo shield

Also if Awoken Isis is even stronger than this but also with better tankiness then fuck yes BV


B/D Karin = Pulled today
fffffffffff

okay lets go

>cupid

FUCK
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 13, 2015, 02:32:52 PM
fffffffffff

okay lets go

>cupid

FUCK

i pulled 2 karins during my godfest

i'm just saving the 2nd one for awoken karin
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 13, 2015, 03:53:43 PM
Christ, I'm in Sonia Gran right now, and Red Sonia is terrible. This is a complicated balancing act of how many actives I can afford to pop. And I couldn't find an Awoken Neptune so I went in without, and that seems like it may have been a mistake. If I brought him I could just go all-out violent on Red Sonia, crush her without a second thought, and stall back up on Gran.

Also, I'm getting extremely slowdown periodically, especially during my combos. I've had two times now where the screen locked up during a combo and I had to finish it completely blind (although it did register my orb movements while the screen was frozen). If that happens again I lose, and that's not good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 13, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Have i ever told you guys just how much i HATE combo shields? And particularly Zhao Yun's?
Oh, and let not forget that this is at the very least my 11th consecutive descent run without a jewel invade.... 20% my oversized backside  <_<

At least i got a plussed skill-up for GZL.


Did 2 pulls in the NA.....

- Undine..... oh look, now i have the full set, yay....  :fail:

- VERDANDIIIII :* Lol i rolled her both in jp and in na!


Then i got a slight suspicion and went to check my NA box..............................
Game, what are you doing to me? Why do you want me to play Osiris in NA too? Game,  do you realize just how many good cards i have now for him?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 13, 2015, 04:16:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ema4lO2.png)

Ha ha nevermind, cleared it after all. I set my phone down for a while because the slowdown was so bad, but it turned out it was Google deciding to update whatever and whenever the fuck it felt like without telling me. Once that was done I could play normally, and things went surprisingly well.

Blew out Red Sonia with Sun Quan+Gabriel, blasted Gran down to ~20% with Ruka+Reine, and swept up with the leftover orbs. I could've lost for sure if I had gotten a couple more skyfalls on my first attack against Gran, since the only chance I had seemed to be deliberately leaving behind a lot of water orbs after my two rows. And it paid off, because I didn't get a couple more skyfalls. Seems farmable with Neptune probably, but I don't see myself doing that because it could potentially take forever.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 13, 2015, 04:30:07 PM
i dont have bodin though i only have weenie single TPAs and double TPA reine

anyways I went full rows instead with Andromeda and that did the trick

I don't think I'll be farming this dungeon though because Ronia was still really tricky with her combo shield

Also if Awoken Isis is even stronger than this but also with better tankiness then fuck yes BV

Anyways, as a general rule of thumb, don't do rows unless you got about 5.
7 TPA isn't a bad number at all, if your double TPAs have +99atk that's even better.
The thing with rows is that it also decreases your combo count naturally and that kinda nullifies the bonus multiplier if you only has like 3 row awakenings.


Did 2 pulls in the NA.....

- Undine..... oh look, now i have the full set, yay....  :fail:

- VERDANDIIIII :* Lol i rolled her both in jp and in na!


Then i got a slight suspicion and went to check my NA box..............................
Game, what are you doing to me? Why do you want me to play Osiris in NA too? Game,  do you realize just how many good cards i have now for him?


Grats! Today is Verdandi day! :toot:

Luck's been looking in my direction these past couple of weeks.

(http://i.imgur.com/blIcLVH.png) (http://i.imgur.com/J9BSxNd.png) (http://i.imgur.com/iMhX9BC.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/U96BhC4.png) (http://i.imgur.com/yRpgHJU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/dvzIV0Y.png)

trance op
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dr Rawr on June 13, 2015, 05:42:24 PM
I rolled a 6th ronia and it did not give a skill up
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 13, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
Yolorolled me a qtpie Famiel :3
Yes good a growing collection of water types pleases me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 13, 2015, 06:06:42 PM
One roll, got another white Kali. God dammit. That's... technically great I guess?

Edit: Did another roll for goofs, got Orochi. Whatevs. I don't have a particular use for him, but he's good.

Edit edit: I'm strongly considering feeding my +230 Ra to a Kali because Awoken Ra is looking a lot less attractive now (I do have extra Ras). I guess I better try him before I kill him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 13, 2015, 06:35:58 PM
I rolled a 6th ronia and it did not give a skill up

That is some serious dupe skills..... up to three i would have considered you lucky.... but 6 not anymore  :ohdear:


There is something i don't understand of A.Ceres i can't believe i've never noticed before: she have a Recover Bind awakening AND her active gives 3 turn of Bind recovery..... how does that work? If you use her active for 3 turns a row of heart orbs clear SIX turn of bind?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 13, 2015, 06:54:17 PM
Her active functions in its own, seven turn cd. That will always clear 3 turns of binds whether you have any heart orbs or not.

She can -also- clear 3 turns of binds by making a row heal. In a single turn, she can heal 6 turns of binds by using both together.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 13, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
Thanks for the explanation ;)

Time to farm skill-ups. Is it really worth it to farm HK collab for fruit dragons's? They don't seem to get much use in actual teams and i've got tons of gods that require Tamadras before them.

I'm kinda torn between farming Light Sprite for DQXQ skill-up and HK for I&I invade and the fruit dragons.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 13, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
A six turn heartmaker is no joke. Their awoken skill pool still fits on row teams, and any team appreciates skill boosts.

DQXQ skillups... are probably easier to get off Femme Dragon coin dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 13, 2015, 08:09:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YbhBFVl.jpg)

[16:03:19] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Grania is dead.
[16:03:44] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> It was a one stone but I insist it's a no-stone on handicap
[16:04:11] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I was riding in a car when Ronia killed me and my mom distracted me so I accidentally pressed yes when the continue popped up
[16:04:26] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Grania herself is so fucking easy though lol
[16:05:28] <Chirei> yeah she's not bad if you have a dedicated team
[16:05:38] <Chirei> and made it there with some actives or at least partially charged ones
[16:05:43] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> yeah my team is fuckin perfect for Grania
[16:05:47] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> it's just Ronia
[16:05:49] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> ughhhhhh
[16:06:01] <Chirei> yeah i had to blow both heartmakers on ronia
[16:06:04] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I am really really really bad at hitting the combo quota when running Parv
[16:06:30] <Chirei> i actually sort of just grinded her down
[16:06:33] <Chirei> i took six turns i think
[16:06:36] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> And the reason why I insist that this is a no-stone is because I had to survive for TWENTY FUCKING TURNS after stoning
[16:06:47] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> because I'd get her low and OOPS HEALED HER TO MAX
[16:06:50] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> repeat forever
[16:07:06] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> and since surviving that long is a feat in and of itself....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 13, 2015, 08:14:04 PM
Finally cleared Zhao Yun mythical with Verdandi. Putting Susano on over Odin makes a really noticeable difference in damage from the extra prong with high attack. And the enhance too I'm sure.

Regarding fruit dragons, they're very niche good, but I'm not sure I would skill them up without a specific team in mind. I love Ruka, but I would totally use Blueberry Dagon over her if it was a healer. Heartmakers are good, heartmakers with great awakenings are very good. But Blueberry Dagon is not a healer, which means I don't have a usr for it, which means personally I'm passing on Hello Kitty.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 13, 2015, 08:19:56 PM
Re: Matsy Gran clear
Well in essence it was a nostone ANYWAY(got one for the clear and all, yes?) so I say you're totally in the green on this.  Congrats! 

I need to hurry up and actually necome competent with Karin so I can get to work on some super hard stuff like this someday.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 13, 2015, 08:23:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8s1B0tE.jpg)

XEC cleared
Is... Is this what it feels to be OP!?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 13, 2015, 10:08:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8s1B0tE.jpg)

XEC cleared
Is... Is this what it feels to be OP!?

Considering who is in your 5th slot this is what it feels to be JP  :V
Joking aside, CONGRATS! You guys are amazing. Is there anything you still have to clear?  ::)

On different news, i just got one more roll in the JP godfest thanks to the stones of PADW (first time playing it, seems relaxing although i don't understand one word of the game... some translated guide would be a godsend).....

Suikama, sorry about this but....... it was Karin  :D

My very starter god in my NA account followed me into the JP one at the first available GF! What is the point of having 2 different accounts if i drop the same cards?  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2015, 10:27:21 PM
playing this game is like being trapped in an NTR doujin
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 14, 2015, 02:31:09 AM
Edit edit: I'm strongly considering feeding my +230 Ra to a Kali because Awoken Ra is looking a lot less attractive now (I do have extra Ras). I guess I better try him before I kill him.

6 awoken ra team = ez king carnival farming, push buttons win game

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 14, 2015, 05:08:31 AM
what in the actual hell? (http://imgur.com/1rgMxUK)

Pretty sure they're stealing all the skillups that could have gone to Lemon Dragon and Apocalypse. They went like 4/5 this week.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 14, 2015, 05:30:43 AM
6 awoken ra team = ez king carnival farming, push buttons win game

King Carnival is super easyballs though, and there aren't really any times when I would need to run it dozens of times an hour or anything. And there's no reason to use hypermax Ras for that.

That said, I've been practicing with Kali all day. My current team is one time extend short of what it will be with Ra, and has the same number of board changes. And honestly with all of those extends and some practice I can hit all five attributes fairly consistently. Certainly consistently enough that I feel like I would be able to sustain activations every turn with four Kali actives. Ultimate Kali does a lot of damage, but with Ra that would basically become "one-shot everything" damage. I'm not sure I would actually need a fifth Kali active, while I do need extra damage sometimes. I'll wait to try out Ra, and I imagine he'll probably be fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 14, 2015, 05:33:25 AM
lol i guess i should have tried isis but someone else beat me to the punch with my own team oh well (http://i.imgur.com/oBxfPo6.jpg) :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 14, 2015, 05:47:57 AM
lol i guess i should have tried isis but someone else beat me to the punch with my own team oh well (http://i.imgur.com/oBxfPo6.jpg) :V

you lost faith
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 14, 2015, 06:16:13 AM
i got impatient waiting for aIsis so I ran her team but with Andro lead :V

also considering
playing this game is like being trapped in an NTR doujin
its par for the course


in other news
Nordis
HP: 8,656,458
DEF: 980
Ability: Reduce light/wood damage taken by 50%

looks like FUN
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 14, 2015, 06:22:58 AM
in other news
Nordis
HP: 8,656,458
DEF: 980
Ability: Reduce light/wood damage taken by 50%

looks like FUN

The worst part is that in a normal dungeon, even taking into account his 24k hits, I could probably Luci him with good enough timing of actives. Unfortunately Awoken Hera-Is is 60 cost and DQ Hera is 50, so I'm not sure Luci strats would give me enough HP/RCV to really get that tanking ability. :V

Depending on what else is in the dungeon, though, I think Awoken Minerva could take him?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 14, 2015, 07:07:47 AM
in other news
Nordis
HP: 8,656,458
DEF: 980
Ability: Reduce light/wood damage taken by 50%

>Reduce Wood damage taken by 50%

fuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 14, 2015, 07:16:19 AM
playing this game is like being trapped in an NTR doujin

OH SNAP SUIKAMA! I'm having breakfast and you almost cost me a new keyboard!  XDD
And you jinxed me: i have many good light row subs in my NA account...... so i rolled Sun Wukong in JP  :V

what in the actual hell? (http://imgur.com/1rgMxUK)

Pretty sure they're stealing all the skillups that could have gone to Lemon Dragon and Apocalypse. They went like 4/5 this week.
Grats, although i'm so jealous right now..... so, sooo jealous....

Now let me finish this without choking and then we'll see how much i get NTR'd by my last 2 NA rolls..... :ohdear:


EDIT: My second Light Kali and Ganesha..... not bad although i can't help but notice that the gods i wanted the most in this godfest were Bastet, Isis, Parvati, Vishnu and maybe Lakshmi (never cared about the Norse beside I&I :V)..... and now they are exactly the ONLY ONES i miss of their respective pantheons  -__-
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 14, 2015, 08:38:58 AM
Pull #1: Anima
Pull #2: Ra #3

Lame. So I bought two more.

Pull #3: Exa-Hydra
Pull #4: GZL.

Better.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 14, 2015, 08:47:07 AM
Tried to pull twice to get Indra. Didn't happen.  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 14, 2015, 01:41:39 PM
Pull #1: Anima
Pull #2: Ra #3

Lame. So I bought two more.

Pull #3: Exa-Hydra
Pull #4: GZL.

Better.

Decided to stupidly tempt fate and throw money to the wind in hopes of Indian gods.

Pull #5: Dragon Samurai
Pull #6: GrimRock
Pull #7: Arcline

Now I remember why spending money on this game is stupid. Why do I forget so easily?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 14, 2015, 02:07:59 PM
ACTUALLY WHOA WAIT

(http://i.imgur.com/rHvWPfH.png)(http://i.imgur.com/n4k7N97.png)

IT'S LIKE THEY'RE SAYING "SORRY FOR ALL THE WORTHLESS PADZ SHIT YOU JUST PULLED"

(http://i.imgur.com/P4Nn1De.png)

GIMME THAT ASTERISK NO WAIT I'LL DO IT MYSELF

IT'S OVER IT'S FINALLY OVER YES
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 14, 2015, 02:18:56 PM
Fuck yes o/

Also my godfest rolls were a shotel and a blue dragon swordsman.

Fuckin'... yay.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 14, 2015, 02:45:21 PM
Holy.... congrats Matsuri!  :toot:

So wish i could have her...... have to resist temptation to buy stones to roll!


Btw, PADW too stronk! I asked for friendship there at random just to rack up medals and when i came back to PAD i had things like almost hypermaxed A.Bastet, Ult Lu Bu, Perfect Cell in friend list! O_O

Players that wouldn't even look at me accepted friendship just because i have a strong avatar in PADW  :derp: Oh well, not gonna complain, thanks to them i steamrolled King of the Underworld both in normal and challenge mode with good old Karin :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 14, 2015, 03:13:43 PM
Figured I'd try another REM roll today because I've got a streak going. Ice knight, oh well.

New challenge dungeons coming up. Bubpy is on the least plausible possible floor for me. That's cool though, because what I really needed was Shynpy and he's easy. Beyzul will have to wait even longer, but maybe that means one of the dozens of other Beyzuls I cram into him between each Bubpy will save me the effort.

And at the same time, Black Bowl Dragon comes out. Back when this was announced my best strategy for Kali seemed to involve two skillmax Izanamis. That has long since changed, a lot of times, but since we're on 2.5x skillups anyway I figure I might as well take a shot at skillmaxing two Izanamis just in case I ever need them.

Edit: Aaaaah shit, not only does Black Bowl Dragon not have blue in it (although I can farm it with Verdandi I'm sure) it also doesn't have leeks. I've been assuming this whole time I could skillmax my Susano while I farmed this. Oh well, they pop up other places, but still that would have been nice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 14, 2015, 04:14:01 PM
I think I might be able to do up to Lv7 this time around. The only really iffy bit is the Gold Keeper at the start...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 14, 2015, 07:53:19 PM
https://youtu.be/wjJ0zSwoM4E

For those still having doubts of A. Bastet's insane burst capability, here is Bastet no-stoning Nordis. (only Wave 9 and 10 recorded so I don't have to bore you with a long vid)
For those who don't know, wave 10 Nordis has 8.6mil hp and halves all green damage, so my team at around lv60 here bursted 17mil hp in 2 turns. (+values are at around 1300 in total though)
And yes, I'd have died if not for that skyfall at the end because I was unlucky enough to only have 7 green orbs. game pls.

Also featured: How to make TPAs when Liu Bei gives you 20 green orbs. (At 2:13)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 14, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
YES YES YES FINALLY

(http://i.imgur.com/tRbNYI5.png)

wait

wait WHAT

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I DON'T GET A STONE FOR THIS

oh hey don't mind me it's only my greatest accomplishment so far thanks for telling me I have to do XEC for the stone now gungho what the shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 15, 2015, 02:47:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/uJ4yeIr.jpg)

#JustVegitoThings

EDIT:

(http://i.imgur.com/50LKMHH.png)

here's awoken haku clearing challenge lv10
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 08:44:30 AM
So I found this nearly two-year article that I felt underlined some of the worries of the troubles overseas PAD is experiencing right now in 2015, especially with collabs. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/terokuittinen/2013/07/04/is-the-gungho-fever-about-to-break/)

Other interesting information I gathered elsewhere and some musings:

*Some information below is assuming only people from their respective region have downloaded, and says absolutely nothing about the active userbase of each region. Y'all know this isn't the case, so use common sense to iron out the values.

February 20, 2012 - Birth of JP PAD
November 8, 2012 - Birth of NA PAD

October 2013 - ~20m downloads for JP PAD, 1m+ downloads for NA PAD
May 2014 - 28m+ downloads for JP PAD, 4m+ downloads for NA PAD
August 2014 - 30m+ downloads for JP PAD, 4m+ downloads for NA PAD still

November 2014 - Advent of halved stamina timer for JP
December 2014 - Advent of halved stamina timer for NA

January 2015 - 32~33m downloads for JP PAD, 6m+ downloads for NA PAD
June 2015(Present Day) - 36m+ downloads for JP PAD, 7m+ downloads for NA PAD

Population of Japan as of now: 127.3 million people
% who've downloaded PAD ever: 28.28%

Population of the United States as of now: 325 million people
% who've downloaded PAD ever: 2.15%

This probably says a lot about the growth rate and popularity of PAD in each region, not even counting or guessing how many NA players have decided to download/defect to the JP client. On the other hand, I have met and even friended some Japanese people who play on the NA client simply because all their friends are from America, but I will assume these numbers are much less, maybe even negligible compared to the former.

The memories of early-day horror stories still fresh in my mind thanks to the PAD veterans here, I think the NA client has come a pretty darn long way from where it started, but could the game be already starting to stagnate in the inhospitable land of the West? Are cultural differences and business costs going to stop PAD from becoming as big as GH hoped over here? Let's hope that's not the case, friends. These are just numbers, after all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 15, 2015, 10:19:43 AM
I really hope your worries are unfounded Chirei, while playing in JP is awesome due to having ALL the content and the other perks, i very much prefer playing a game that i can understand without having to translate/check on padwiki every 2 minutes. Not to mention all my IAP-earned mons are in the NA  :derp:

Grats Matsuri! That is really low GH, really low....  :wat:
And congrats to Trance too for... well, basically owning the game  :V

btw trance, is Vegito really that OP? Reading around in other forums they speak of him like he's the Golden Hammer of PAD, the one team that you turn to when you simply want to steamroll something (just like you tagged  :D)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 15, 2015, 10:27:43 AM
btw trance, is Vegito really that OP? Reading around in other forums they speak of him like he's the Golden Hammer of PAD, the one team that you turn to when you simply want to steamroll something (just like you tagged  :D)

yes; if you run the team of all dragons, he is x25 for matching any 4 colors, including hearts. You can stack 2~3 red tpas and easily break most things in half. If you don't want to run all dragons, those who are not dragons are still x16, which is respectable enough. So basically his strength is he has the same ease of activation as DQXQ but is significantly more damaging. Vegito himself also has 2 TPA, 2 time extends, 2 skill boosts, and a row. His AS is a free delay and true damage skill which can one-hit almost every single high defense enemy in the game so far (except for Awoken Meimei in Challenge Dungeon 14 Lv10)

did i also mention he has the best weighted stat total in the entire game
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 10:45:49 AM
I really hope your worries are unfounded Chirei, while playing in JP is awesome due to having ALL the content and the other perks, i very much prefer playing a game that i can understand without having to translate/check on padwiki every 2 minutes. Not to mention all my IAP-earned mons are in the NA  :derp:

It's less of a worry for me and more a quick analysis of what I could see from the data gathered.

Sadly some people will argue all those points and tell people to defect to JP anyway, but what they don't realize is that they're ultimately killing the game by telling it to basically stay in JP, which i'm pretty sure is not their intent since they released PADZ/Mario worldwide and such. I actually don't really have a problem with people playing on JP - it's when they basically condemn the NA version for its shortcomings and just basically leave it to die for their immediate gain from playing the more updated client instead of thinking of the game in the long run.

Yes, it is just a silly game with dragons and the odd shirtless guy here and there, but if people claim to like the game as much as they do then they'd probably do better to stop killing it from the inside. I wonder how many people realize the fault of the game's progress elsewhere lies not just with the staff...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 15, 2015, 10:51:37 AM
Sadly some people will argue all those points and tell people to defect to JP anyway, but what they don't realize is that they're ultimately killing the game by telling it to basically stay in JP, which i'm pretty sure is not their intent since they released PADZ/Mario worldwide and such. I actually don't really have a problem with people playing on JP - it's when they basically condemn the NA version for its shortcomings and just basically leave it to die for their immediate gain from playing the more updated client instead of thinking of the game in the long run.

unfortunately it's a catch-22 situation.

NA may need more traffic and such to have a speed-up in how they operate (but I highly doubt it...) but as long as the NA player base keep complaining and keep whining about how JP has everything or whatever and keep defecting, NA won't be able to get the customer base support. But how can NA player base be satisfied if they keep leaving? I mean, at the same time, I've gotten yelled at by some of you by talking about JP perks back in the past, so recently I stop talking about it that often, except when it's related to upcoming content releases or showing some new content that NA will get in the future?

Maybe they don't realize that what they're doing is "killing" it, but I can hardly blame them to be honest. You guys are usually well-mannered and calm about these things but sometimes I still do get shit for talking about JP since as far as I can see Thaws and I are the only people here who main JP (the other people playing JP such as Chaore have them as alts to play while waiting for NA stamina I assume) so it's clear there is an issue, but somehow I don't think that customer base being small is the root cause.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
Maybe they don't realize that what they're doing is "killing" it, but I can hardly blame them to be honest. You guys are usually well-mannered and calm about these things but sometimes I still do get shit for talking about JP since as far as I can see Thaws and I are the only people here who main JP (the other people playing JP such as Chaore have them as alts to play while waiting for NA stamina I assume) so it's clear there is an issue, but somehow I don't think that customer base being small is the root cause.

Yeah, it's a difficult one to overcome for sure, and I think from the small conversations I've had with Antonio + his PF thread replies, the higher ups in NA seem aware of it as well. All we can really do here as players is just try to spread the love, and not in the way I typically see with all the defectors on reddit and such. Any small amount of help is help regardless.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 15, 2015, 11:01:13 AM
Yeah, it's a difficult one to overcome for sure, and I think from the small conversations I've had with Antonio + his PF thread replies, the higher ups in NA seem aware of it as well. All we can really do here as players is just try to spread the love, and not in the way I typically see with all the defectors on reddit and such. Any small amount of help is help regardless.

If there's one thing I agree on though, it's that people need to stop shitting on GungHo NA for things out of their control such as collaborations that NA don't get such as DBZ, and such, because they have very little or absolutely no control over it at all. No amount of NA fanbase will fix that short of some capital injection from elsewhere. However it is interesting that there's very little been said about the localization of dungeon and monster content. On reddit I am responsible for translating almost all of the new news which I can do within literally minutes. The actual implementation of localization strings shouldn't take even more than a week. While the ultimate evolutions and such come in about 1~2 months, the descend content takes more than 4 months and I feel that could be cut down to a lot less.

I know GungHo NA is capable of doing this since they managed to release versions 7.8.1 to the NA client. So what's the hold up?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 15, 2015, 11:11:00 AM

did i also mention he has the best weighted stat total in the entire game

Not even close.

(http://i.imgur.com/76xnhaz.jpg)

Try 80th best. :V


Also heads up, PAD says that Lv1-3 of challenge dungeons are water/light/dark. This is a lie, they are water/light/fire.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
I know GungHo NA is capable of doing this since they managed to release versions 7.8.1 to the NA client. So what's the hold up?

Now here's where I feel some convoluted business shenanigans are going on. I can't say if it's on the JP or NA side, but something tells me the former because they have the end say in content distribution across all regions, and no one needs me to say that the way they've been distributed according to income gain/userbase is whacked as hell. What kind of protocol they're operating on for this is beyond me, but I can sure as shit say this is a terrible way to do it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 15, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
Something is strange.  Vegito used to have over 900 weighted stats. 
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 15, 2015, 11:40:53 AM
Perhaps the calculations were wrong (or being read at hypermax stats?) (Either that or JP weighs stats differently.)

I just brought it up because I remember making a point of saying ROdin now has the best weighted stats on IRC yesterday. So something's off.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 15, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
Maybe PaDX is using an older version of his stats? They list two different versions of his skills and awakenings for some reason.  It's weird because I remember PaDX putting him first in the list, with over 900 weighted stats.  I had to click NA Only to get Bodin to the top.

(and hypermax adds 297 to the weighted stat total)

Trance, can you post his in-game card, so we can see the actual stats?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 15, 2015, 12:39:32 PM
Something is strange.  Vegito used to have over 900 weighted stats.

His stats on PDX is wrong, he should be 4310/2005/203.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 15, 2015, 01:54:39 PM
I just brought it up because I remember making a point of saying ROdin now has the best weighted stats on IRC yesterday. So something's off.

PDX is using Vegito's stats before he got his buff lol.

Vegito's hypermax stats are 5300/2500/500, I know because I have friends, I can show screenshots if you like :v

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHi9BpnVAAA3G9H.png)

What kind of protocol they're operating on for this is beyond me, but I can sure as shit say this is a terrible way to do it.

Which is why some actual explanations would be nice. As great as Antonio has been about the whole situation, he hasn't exactly stated outright that it's JP's fault that they don't have the go ahead. Perhaps he's not allowed to say this, which is pretty understandable, but some indication to point out and confirm this fact would be nice. Then we'd know for sure that this is Poor Business Decision Making.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 15, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
I kind of like this setup:

WKali/WKali/BKali/Sun Quan/WMetatron/Hathor. It's fairly durable, maybe enough to make up for losing a Kali active. It's slightly unclear to me if Hathor's rainbow thing buffs attack on everything or just white. It's everything, right?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 15, 2015, 04:15:03 PM
I kind of like this setup:

WKali/WKali/BKali/Sun Quan/WMetatron/Hathor. It's fairly durable, maybe enough to make up for losing a Kali active. It's slightly unclear to me if Hathor's rainbow thing buffs attack on everything or just white. It's everything, right?
LSs like Hathor's, Horus, LKali, etc are all-encompassing.  The only part that is light-only is the HP and RCV boost.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 15, 2015, 04:51:11 PM
Right, that's what I figured. The wording is a little ambiguous. And again, I was surprised how consistently I was able to hit all five attributes with her and her low-utility active and no time extend. I guess once you have enough extends from everything else you're good to go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 15, 2015, 05:22:14 PM
Feels like a pain, you're going to have to match for both leader skills, and that's going to weaken your burst.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 15, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
Partly this is just a matter of learning to combo better. Partly to get ready for Ra, since my ultimate vision of this team is Awoken Ra/Kali leads for huge modifier damage. It's also partly to force myself to clear the board more efficiently because if I don't when I play Kali I end up with a board of just green and heal before too long.

Do you think that's hurting my damage significantly? That's never occurred to me. If so, how would I go about keeping the board cleaned up while also maximizing damage?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 05:43:26 PM
how would I go about keeping the board cleaned up while also maximizing damage?

You just... match everything. I'm dead serious. There's really no point in not doing it anyway - I have to do it for Leilan as well, and her conditions are far more lax. The difference there is that anything I don't need I can just attempt to get rid of in clumps if doing normal combos is too hard. You get infinite time to think your moves out, so unless you're trying to do the 25K Horus Challenge or something, it shouldn't be an issue to think it out if you have like a dozen time extends.

I run with 0-1 time extends on any team I use, and this is more than enough to clear at least 24 orbs off the board(6+combo with TPA or more) every turn if I really think. Actual time extend teams should have zero trouble doing this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 15, 2015, 05:54:31 PM
Yeah, I'm proooobably not going to do that. I don't have the patience to spend that much time on every single move.

Maybe that's just a bad habit from playing a bulky tean that takes 50-100 turns to clear longer dungeons, but I'm inclined to say I'm probably never going to put THAT much time into most moves. Important ones maybe (which is probably a bad mindset, since that's worth less if I don't set up properly, but fortunately I have Kali's cheat active).

I'm all for practicing and getting better at combos, but I don't know if I can or want to clear the whole board every turn. And if my plan is to do that anyway, why am I worried about non-overlapping leader skill requirements?

For the record, my current team has six time extends, my ideal version has seven, as well as Ra's active for an additional on-demand boost.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 05:58:03 PM
Yeah, I'm proooobably not going to do that. I don't have the patience to spend that much time on every single move.

I take about a minute or two on average, and even then my matches are not quite as consistent as I make them out to be. When the board becomes "easy", I take far less time. In fact, you can see roughly how long it takes me to move in a serious situation like the one Super Evo Rush video I put up. The only time where I take like a minute or two to think out my move is during the trifruits part - and i've gotten a lot better since I made that video, I'd like to think. So no, I don't take eons to beat dungeons because I have to think - I literally just think faster and got better after doing it for so long - but I did have to start slow at first.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 15, 2015, 06:07:19 PM
Actually if 6+ combos with a two-prong is the standard, I'm doing about that right now by virtue of the extends. Without them I would never be able to do that, but with I'm getting 6-7 combos with a two-prong. Aside fron trying to match all colors every turn and trying to get a white prong I don't particularly optimize, but I do have reasonable numbers. Anything beyond that is basically just skyfalls.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 06:11:45 PM
Actually if 6+ combos with a two-prong is the standard, I'm doing about that right now by virtue of the extends. Without them I would never be able to do that, but with I'm getting 6-7 combos with a two-prong. Aside fron trying to match all colors every turn and trying to get a white prong I don't particularly optimize, but I do have reasonable numbers. Anything beyond that is basically just skyfalls.

That should be fairly well off for most things, I think. The thing you have to remember is that it's okay to go slow sometimes - eventually you get used to doing it and can eventually execute it/recognize the move in a much shorter time later. A high-combo move that might take someone five minutes to come up with might take me one minute, or something like that. Plus it's better to win 30 minutes later than not win at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 15, 2015, 06:14:23 PM
Plus it's better to win 30 minutes later than not win at all.
Do you even know who you're talking to? I think he has the patience part of PAD down. :P
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 15, 2015, 06:20:32 PM
Do you even know who you're talking to? I think he has the patience part of PAD down. :P

I can be patient, it took me like 700 turns to clear God Rush, and I've done it twice. Thst said, I'm cautious about spending five minutes on one important move (not that I don't do it, but it's rare) because the more I think it out the more nervous I get and the higher the chance is that I'll botch the execution.

I'm sure I'd get better at that with practice, but up to now I've had more success with a little less thought, a little more ibstinct, and overall safer combos. I am getting better at planning, but it's not easy, and quite often not successful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 15, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
the more I think it out the more nervous I get and the higher the chance is that I'll botch the execution.

This one's probably the hardest part bar none, and only because you don't have the giant safety net and bulk of stall teams. Unfortunately, the best anyone can do from here is just learn to try and overcome it in their own way. Once I realized that I've been practicing and pulling off similarly silly shit elsewhere, it becomes a lot less nerve-wracking when the real show comes on.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 15, 2015, 08:18:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VxAiWTq.jpg)

Piece o' cake.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 15, 2015, 08:22:39 PM
I've tried yoloing matches. Rarely does it end well.


I need to get on the ball. I haven't cleared anything cool lately.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 15, 2015, 08:58:25 PM
I just discovered that it's possible to get TWO invades in a single run..... got 2 Keepers of Light while doing the Blue Keeper dungeon.

Now game please explain how in the blazes i get 2 invades of the only keeper i don't need in JP and in 8 Kingdom-level runs in NA I&I skill-up didn't show up once.....  :colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 15, 2015, 09:04:18 PM
Now game commandercool please explain how in the blazes i get 2 invades of the only keeper i don't need in JP and in 8 Kingdom-level runs in NA I&I skill-up didn't show up once.....  :colbert:

RNG.:colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 16, 2015, 12:30:34 AM
Andromeda at +295... close enough :derp:

Now all that's left is skill-ups...

has anyone else done fairy skill ups? how painful is it exactly :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 16, 2015, 12:46:46 AM
has anyone else done fairy skill ups? how painful is it exactly :ohdear:

hi

they suck a lot tbh, single lits are assholish and the best place for flowers is open once a week.

if you just stock up on flowers and wait for the right times for dungeon of x they'll go alright, but it'l take time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 16, 2015, 12:47:14 AM
Andromeda at +295... close enough :derp:

Now all that's left is skill-ups...

has anyone else done fairy skill ups? how painful is it exactly :ohdear:

I have already used one Bubpy on Andromeda, two skillups left to go to max. Good luck.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 16, 2015, 01:41:51 AM
Time for me to move to the US and work for GungHo NA so I can fix all their shit right? (http://careers.gunghoonline.com/)

i kinda like my current job security though... damn, if these ads came out just a year later!! :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 16, 2015, 02:38:45 AM
I didn't think Hero skill ups were that bad. I just spammed dungeon of water and later thursday dungeon. I did it during 2.5x though, so Idk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 16, 2015, 02:43:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/yQBToMd.png)

next mission, plus egg farming!!!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 16, 2015, 02:56:01 AM
Hey, Chaore.

I tried using your Yamato Takeru since none of my 195 other friends have him apparently.

13 skill boosts is incredible.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 16, 2015, 03:00:20 AM
Hey, Chaore.

I tried using your Yamato Takeru since none of my 195 other friends have him apparently.

13 skill boosts is incredible.

all hail triple SB

everything you want up on turn 1 and it is beautiful
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 16, 2015, 03:04:51 AM
Double Yamato Takeru
Double Belial
Suzaku
Ronia

Belial is up in four turns and no lack of skill ups is going to stop me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 16, 2015, 03:39:35 AM
Belial is up in four turns and no lack of skill ups is going to stop me.

and then you use him once... then...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 16, 2015, 03:47:53 AM
Castle of Satan Pys are going somewhere.
Only need... 18 more between the two of them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 16, 2015, 04:11:08 AM
Castle of Satan Pys are going somewhere.
Only need... 18 more between the two of them.

hey... at least you aren't me; I still need... hmm. I still need 11 more Shynpy for ONE SINGLE MONSTER and 12 more Badpy for A DIFFERENT ONE

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 16, 2015, 04:28:09 AM
and then you use him once... then...

Having him up once can mean a lot.


...not particularly in that lineup, but still.

We'd fucking love to have him skilled up though but :fuckNA:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 16, 2015, 04:33:19 AM
RNG.:colbert:

Went to sleep after this.
Woke up at 3am by little brother going to work.
Tossed around in bed for half an hour unable to go back to sleep.
"To hell with this" and turned up PAD.
3 more runs of HK thanks to rank up, still no I&I.
Went to JP to stockpile a bit more keepers.
First run:
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-06-16-04-42-17_zpswe6xl7w2.png)

Not seen, i also encountered a green golem in the same run but it didn't drop.

commandercool, when you meet that guy you call RNG, tell him that he either have a weird sense of humor or is simply a ruddy bastard....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 16, 2015, 04:45:49 AM
Incoming unknown compensation for the dungeon misprint earlier today. (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/1086216664740258/?type=1)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 16, 2015, 05:43:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oPzNNSjl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/oPzNNSj.jpg)

You're gonna have to do better than that with your poison, Izanami. 9094 autoheal says hi.

(http://i.imgur.com/wN6qV8Il.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/wN6qV8I.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/RJxvZyql.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/RJxvZyq.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 16, 2015, 06:08:11 AM
0/10 gadius skillups during x2.5

his skill up monster is Keeper of Gold

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 16, 2015, 10:17:25 AM
The new Technical that will open up after Paradise of the Holy Beasts that will always reward a Py looks like an hilarious experience....

99 stam, no continue, 21 floors

Can we consider this a middle step between TEC and XEC?  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 16, 2015, 10:23:48 AM
The new Technical that will open up after Paradise of the Holy Beasts that will always reward a Py looks like an hilarious experience....

99 stam, no continue, 21 floors

the dungeon isnt finalized yet so it may not have 21 floors
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 16, 2015, 12:04:40 PM
Regardless of finalization or not, this is like when alts came out all over again. No one is going to be able to beat it when it comes out except the megawhales  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 16, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
Went to sleep after this.
Woke up at 3am by little brother going to work.
Tossed around in bed for half an hour unable to go back to sleep.
"To hell with this" and turned up PAD.
3 more runs of HK thanks to rank up, still no I&I.
Went to JP to stockpile a bit more keepers.
First run:
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-06-16-04-42-17_zpswe6xl7w2.png)

Not seen, i also encountered a green golem in the same run but it didn't drop.

commandercool, when you meet that guy you call RNG, tell him that he either have a weird sense of humor or is simply a ruddy bastard....

You know you're comparing a dungeon with an extremely high invade rate to a dungeon with a fairly low invade rate, right? None of this is statistically unlikely, even a little.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 16, 2015, 12:31:41 PM
You know you're comparing a dungeon with an extremely high invade rate to a dungeon with a fairly low invade rate, right? None of this is statistically unlikely, even a little.

Uhh, actually no, i didn't know dungeons can have different invade rates (apart from the colored frames in PADX). Then i guess i was somewhat unlucky with my NA runs of Keepers because i was invaded very rarely, to the point that like i said i had never even heard of a double invade in single run....  :blush:

Oh well, RNG is STILL a bastard tho  :colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 16, 2015, 12:34:39 PM
God dammit, so for the second time in three days I was just in the middle of a semi-important combo and my phone's screen locked up completely. I couldn't see orbs moving at all, so I died to fucking Corpse Knight. Unlike last time though, this time had no warning. My game was running fine and then it froze, rather than seeing a bunch of lesser slowdown first. I bet this is another one of Google, Youtube, or Gmail's five daily secret updates.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 16, 2015, 12:38:39 PM
Uhh, actually no, i didn't know dungeons can have different invade rates (apart from the colored frames in PADX). Then i guess i was somewhat unlucky with my NA runs of Keepers because i was invaded very rarely, to the point that like i said i had never even heard of a double invade in single run....  :blush:

Oh well, RNG is STILL a bastard tho  :colbert:

Yeah, Keepers have possibly the highest invade rates in the game. If they didn't, evolving light and dark monsters would be impossible for the entire early game, since invades are basically where those keepers come from. I think not getting an invade somewhere in a colored keeper dungeon is pretty rare. Hello Kitty on the other hand seems to be a normal invade as far as I know, which makes it what, like 10% on the highest difficulty?

Sure, RNG is a bitch. But seemingly not in this case.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 16, 2015, 01:27:59 PM
There we go, Isis vs Lv 10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5sW3huYgqo)

guess I should farm up some Dizas
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 16, 2015, 05:46:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/J06QZ03.jpg)

Past me is sobbing.

Mythical beaten for the first time, revenge complete.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 16, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
The new Technical that will open up after Paradise of the Holy Beasts that will always reward a Py looks like an hilarious experience....

99 stam, no continue, 21 floors

Can we consider this a middle step between TEC and XEC?  :V

Tbh I can see it being harder than XEC because I mean my awoken bastet was making it through XEC pretty consistently and I can't see that py being so "easy" to get. (Still can't make it through a lv 10 so I consider XEC easier than that too)
We'll probably see lv10 materials appearing for 20 consecutive floors, not to mention the last floor with 5 pys will be a serious threat for non Ra and Vegito teams...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 16, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Update on skill-up farm-fest: finally got invaded in HK! Didn't get a skill-up but at least they appeared  :V Berry Dragon decided to show off and got maxskilled with 3 skill-up in a row. Miss 1 to max Grape, while that lazyass of Melon is still at skill lv. 4

Update on JP account: can't believe i'm saying this but... i need an healer girl  :fail: Got a few Godin as friends for zombie farming but without autohealer i'm stuck >.<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 17, 2015, 03:02:02 AM
We'll probably see lv10 materials appearing for 20 consecutive floors, not to mention the last floor with 5 pys will be a serious threat for non Ra and Vegito teams...

If you want some comfort, only 1 py will spawn on the last floor randomly out of 5.

On another note, the new Light Survey Carnival is OP OP OP

(http://i.imgur.com/6591deK.png)

can you believe 4 levels only took 300 stamina?!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 03:57:10 AM
So uh

I guess Norse skillups never fucking drop?

I've spent around 500 stamina on flower dragon dungeons and maybe 2 dropped.

This is fucking stupid. Why am I even bothering?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 17, 2015, 03:57:57 AM
Which Norse are you going for?

Reason being, they do drop from Threedia and Defoud's dungeon; while the stamina cost is extreme, they do drop -useful- things aside from Norse skill up fodder.

If I had a max skilled Defoud <3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 04:04:58 AM
So uh

I guess Norse skillups never fucking drop?

I've spent around 500 stamina on flower dragon dungeons and maybe 2 dropped.

This is fucking stupid. Why am I even bothering?

Norse seem like a shit deal. They don't have a fair skillup and they take way more skillups to max out than most things. I guess that's possibly partly because two skillmax Norse on the same team is amazing, but still, they deserve some more help. It's too bad they seem pretty unpopular or maybe they could get in some surveys. The unfair difficulty of skillmaxing them is why I'll accept non-hypermax I&Is as long as they have a lot of +eggs, and I&I even has the handicap of having an extra (also unfairly rare) skillup over the others.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 17, 2015, 04:07:33 AM
hey commandercool
do you want me to hypermax my I&I for you?

Even though I have to hypermax Sakuya as well
and Persephone
and LZL
and Fagan
and Ariel

Oh dear.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 04:39:22 AM
hey commandercool
do you want me to hypermax my I&I for you?

Even though I have to hypermax Sakuya as well
and Persephone
and LZL
and Fagan
and Ariel

Oh dear.

If you did I would use it, but I don't need another one. I have four or five regular ones (or at least, four or five regular +297s, a few of those may not be max skill) which is plenty for right now. I regularly use I&I, Metatron, Awoken Neptune, and Sun Quan friends, so between all of those it's fairly rare right now that I actually run out of I&Is when I need them. What I really need right now is more hypermax Awoken Neptunes and blue Metatrons (any blue Metatrons, I don't even have one anymore), and of course Sun Quans. So if you'd get a lot of use out of I&I yourself, go for it. If not, I'd say focus on something you would use a lot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 17, 2015, 10:12:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/i13ynJo.jpg)

this happened to me twice in the same hour :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 12:39:58 PM
I've gotten plenty of use out of 2.5x skilluos so far (three skillups on white Kali, four on black Kali, three of Verdandi, one on Urd, and some less important stuff) but I still have too much I want to do.

Turns out Black Bowl Dragon drops leeks after all, PDX waa just slow to update. So I need to farm that as much as possible, and get materials to evolve the leeks. I'm definitely going to spend thursday and friday doing their respective dungeons, so hopefully I can evolve any leeks I get today during that time.

Ordinarily I would try to clear a few more challenges, but I'm through 6 right now, which is the important one for me. I feel like I shouldn't do more because the stamina matters more for other things.

I'm also already engaged to spend Monday farming +eggs, since Ra is getting very close to finished. And I'll be saving up stamina on any day Star Vault appears on if it does.

So yeah, busy. Damn...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
Norse seem like a shit deal. They don't have a fair skillup and they take way more skillups to max out than most things. I guess that's possibly partly because two skillmax Norse on the same team is amazing, but still, they deserve some more help. It's too bad they seem pretty unpopular or maybe they could get in some surveys. The unfair difficulty of skillmaxing them is why I'll accept non-hypermax I&Is as long as they have a lot of +eggs, and I&I even has the handicap of having an extra (also unfairly rare) skillup over the others.

Basically yeah.

I'm starting to unironically consider woodpy for Freyja, but that's a desperate measure I hope it won't come down to. :(

(and watch as soon as I skillmax her, she'll get a superior awoken evo.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 01:14:59 PM
Basically yeah.

I'm starting to unironically consider woodpy for Freyja, but that's a desperate measure I hope it won't come down to. :(

(and watch as soon as I skillmax her, she'll get a superior awoken evo.)

I've dumped a ludicrous amount of resources (four Bubpys and thousands upon many thousands of stamina) into my Beyzul and he's STIIIIIIIILL not skillmax. I keep thinking that if I finish him he'll get a new form with a new skill, but if he does I've decided I'm okay with that. Because if that happene it means he'll get a new form, and I really want that.

So anyway, if you use her a lot, I say go for it. Spend that pii on her. I don't regret losing a shitload of piis to Beyzul, with his farmable skillup in a permanent dungeon, because doing that has allowed me to clear things I just wouldn't have been able to without them, even if he still isn't quite skillmax.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
The thing is I haven't used her at all, but she's the vital piece I need to punch up my AParv team to ABastet-tier damage, so she's a future investment.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 17, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
If you did I would use it, but I don't need another one. I have four or five regular ones (or at least, four or five regular +297s, a few of those may not be max skill) which is plenty for right now. I regularly use I&I, Metatron, Awoken Neptune, and Sun Quan friends, so between all of those it's fairly rare right now that I actually run out of I&Is when I need them. What I really need right now is more hypermax Awoken Neptunes and blue Metatrons (any blue Metatrons, I don't even have one anymore), and of course Sun Quans. So if you'd get a lot of use out of I&I yourself, go for it. If not, I'd say focus on something you would use a lot.

??? What do you mean rare skill up? I&I got the Groove Coaster Crabs. If anyone got screwed extra hard it was Loki.


(and watch as soon as I skillmax her, she'll get a superior awoken evo.)

Well Norse are due for it. Tbf, they should have gotten them by now. For some reason they decided to skip over them and JP1s for Egyptians and Chinese. Also, how would you feel about using Medjedra instead?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 02:34:39 PM
Less interested. Sure, Medjed can reduce damage and boost attack, but it's the attack boost I want in the first place and having 3 turns of that is far better, especially since he'd only boost himself and the Parvs. Freyja would boost everyone on the team.

If I wanted a one turn boost that only affected half of the team, I'd use GZL, I think.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 02:42:09 PM
So apparently I forgot/never knew how low the droprates are in bowl dragons. Got two trash drops on Mythical, neither of them leeks. On the plus side, I'm 1/1 on Izanami skillups so far.

??? What do you mean rare skill up? I&I got the Groove Coaster Crabs. If anyone got screwed extra hard it was Loki.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I don't think we've ever had it while I was playing, or maybe it was like the first two days. And technically I guess there are some in Clash Of Clans or something too, right? I was thinking of the Hello Kitty invade, but there are a few other, easier ones in equivalently ultra-rare collab dungeons.

Poor Loki, he's the only one I have and he's so hard to work with. If I ever get around to making that BMeta rows team he goes in anyway because of all the skillboosts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 17, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
Less interested. Sure, Medjed can reduce damage and boost attack, but it's the attack boost I want in the first place and having 3 turns of that is far better, especially since he'd only boost himself and the Parvs. Freyja would boost everyone on the team.

If I wanted a one turn boost that only affected half of the team, I'd use GZL, I think.

True. I just think Freyja seems so subpar there. If you're not using her rows, all she has is one skill boost. I don't think you need atk boosts like that with 25x + double prongs. If you're using Liu Bei, he does so much damage that Zhuge is probably the better option because  he has an extra skill boost, has prongs, and an extra skill bind resist.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 03:53:49 PM
Only she's not subpar. Three turns of consistent 37.5x damage for the whole team is better in the long run over one burst of 50x on only half of the team because the whole point of this is for the sake of being able to boost my damage on multiple floors, not just one enemy. I don't need overkill, just a reasonable boost to mean the difference between living and dying.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 17, 2015, 04:09:21 PM
True. I just think Freyja seems so subpar there. If you're not using her rows, all she has is one skill boost. I don't think you need atk boosts like that with 25x + double prongs. If you're using Liu Bei, he does so much damage that Zhuge is probably the better option because  he has an extra skill boost, has prongs, and an extra skill bind resist.

Freyja's also got about 1000 HP on GZL, which AParv needs badly for some things probably.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 05:11:57 PM
Right. If GZL was bulkier, he'd be a mainstay on the team, but since he's not, he's more a utility sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 06:00:21 PM
GZL can not be bulkier. He's king of the world as it is, more HP would be silly (watch his ultimate gain 2000 hp now). Is your GZL finished? I recommend taking him for a spin on that team if he is, you might not like him, but watching him and Liu Bei melt dudes is worth a try.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 17, 2015, 06:13:17 PM
Kinda funny hearing GZL being described as a "utility sub".

Meanwhile, here I am using LZL for exactly that...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 17, 2015, 06:39:13 PM
The thing about GZL in a team like Parvati is that HP is more valuable than additional burst, which A.Parv has in spades anyway.  Liu Bei + Parvati actives alone can oneshot almost anything in the game.  But in today's meta, anything with sub-2800 HP is a liability.  A.Parv has damage and RCV in spades, but none of it matters if you can't take a hit and many descend breakpoints exceed 20k health.

Ultimately, GZL has a permanent place on a team like Awoken Parvati if:

1) You're mostly just farming and don't care about HP

2) Your team is carrying a lot of plus eggs

3) You're packing a shield (Green has a lot of decent options here so this isn't uncommon)

Otherwise, yeah, "utility sub".
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 07:32:50 PM
More like not even started.

If Challenge Descended 3 has Zhao Yun on it, I'll surely focus on skilling him up there.

Of course, I can always drop someone else to put a shield in, but that someone can only be Skuld, who is bulky enough as she is. If GZL is on the team, surely I  cannot ditch the attackers, which Liu Bei and Mikey are.

Then there's the option of Susano who I think has an attacker ult? - - but it's way flimsier than his balanced ult. He's also not ready for use, either.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 08:22:37 PM
I use Susano's attacker form on my Verdandi team. Bonus points for using him on a prong team that aldo contains a GZL, but he's pretty great regardless. His balanced form would probably work if you need HP, but I think it lacks a skillboost?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 17, 2015, 08:33:05 PM
Basically yeah.

I'm starting to unironically consider woodpy for Freyja, but that's a desperate measure I hope it won't come down to. :(

(and watch as soon as I skillmax her, she'll get a superior awoken evo.)

That's a super real possibility though.

The norse are in a LOT of trouble right now, with rows being punched around a lot, 8/9 awakenings monsters making their big sell worthless, -and- they're leader skills are starting to age a lot.

Norse -should- be on Gungho's priority list to give an awoken, tbh.


...ofcourse then they'll just make them prongs and I sigh exasperatedly at needing -another- freyr if I want that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 17, 2015, 08:46:50 PM
JP Maintenance over.
1-19th floor of the new Py dungeon is basically stuff we've seen before, from high ninjas, to demons, to common lv10 bosses.
20th is randomly LKali or DKali.

Hp is 30million
Above 65% HP: Must use an attack that deals over 120k.
Pre-emptively use 999 turn status-shield+ 1 turn50% damage cut.
5~65% she uses attacks from like a set of 5 moves randomly which I'm too lazy to translate right now :v
Under 5% is u dide attack.

Basically, burst for 21mil on first turn or die.
or bring Ganesha. :v hahahahahaha rip

Discuss.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 17, 2015, 08:54:50 PM
scary stuff

2 Ultra Gravity, gg no re
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 17, 2015, 09:11:44 PM
2 Ultra Gravity, gg no re

http://pad.skyozora.com/stage/%E6%A5%B5%E9%99%90%E3%81%AE%E9%97%98%E6%8A%80%E5%A0%B4/%E5%8F%8C%E6%A5%B5%E3%81%AE%E5%A5%B3%E7%A5%9E

gl getting through everything before kalis :v
Lol@shield dragons being randomly 3 out of 5 so you can get seriously trolled there :V
dat tamadra floor too, randomly 3 out of 5 :v

You know, 21mil on DKali with Awoken Ra doesn't sound too impossible.
The rest of kali attacks are in the 9k~15k range but they do all sorts of annoying things like binds, skill binds, cd slowdown, board flush w/ no hearts, etc. And they also do two attacks at a time which I totally missed when I made the last post.
I was thinking why they only deal damage in the 9k~15k range.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 17, 2015, 09:18:10 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--ht_fJ6LFDo/VYHjYm3SaOI/AAAAAAAABeM/3D4h1RfUnog/w506-h810/15%2B-%2B1)

U N L I M I T E D P O W E R :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 17, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
Re: Turbo-InfiniKali

Remember that collab survey a while ago that had To Aru Majutsu No Index on it? I think we need that now.

Imagine Breaker
A 1x ATK attack is made on one enemy, and remove all buffs from that enemy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 17, 2015, 09:25:54 PM
gl getting through everything before kalis :v

Someone will do it. It will not be me, but I know someone will do it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 17, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
Someone will do it. It will not be me, but I know someone will do it.

reco did it a while ago on his 9th try and got badpy

u can still die to the pii since 1cd 3182 dmg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 17, 2015, 10:29:34 PM
Fuck it, I give up. I've dropped about 1000 stamina into this and have got 4 skillups to drop, not one of which skilled her up.

I'm just going to wait on Awoken Freyja. Chances are she'll be cooler anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 17, 2015, 11:02:42 PM
And that makes Byakko. (http://imgur.com/vD2NE5W)
Done with my first god, my first dog, LZL, and Beelzebub now.

Wonder who else I can run this with. Gotta drop my excess stamina on something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 18, 2015, 01:07:30 AM
oh hey a dungeon where you can farm Pys? Finall-

JP Maintenance over.
1-19th floor of the new Py dungeon is basically stuff we've seen before, from high ninjas, to demons, to common lv10 bosses.
20th is randomly LKali or DKali.

Hp is 30million
Above 65% HP: Must use an attack that deals over 120k.
Pre-emptively use 999 turn status-shield+ 1 turn50% damage cut.
5~65% she uses attacks from like a set of 5 moves randomly which I'm too lazy to translate right now :v
Under 5% is u dide attack.

Basically, burst for 21mil on first turn or die.
or bring Ganesha. :v hahahahahaha rip

Discuss.
oh

nevermind
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 18, 2015, 01:41:31 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/529xoqC.png) (http://i.imgur.com/e1jr6v1.png) (http://i.imgur.com/ec5OpHq.png)

stuff i should have done last year but didn't
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 18, 2015, 02:37:46 AM
oh shit black bowl dragon skills up DIza I need to get on that shit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 18, 2015, 03:35:28 AM
oh hey a dungeon where you can farm Pys? Finall-

oh

nevermind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywro2OP827E&feature=youtu.be&t=1049
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 18, 2015, 03:58:12 AM
what a fair and well balanced fight


on the other hand, in like a year from now it will probably be free py farming for someone :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 18, 2015, 05:14:06 AM
Double Sakuya gravity would bring that HP down to 64% instantly. Issue is getting double Sakuyas through all that when you could be using double Hathor.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 18, 2015, 05:48:21 AM
21 floors of FUN

As far as i'm concerned this post doesn't exist, i've never read it, and Absolute Virtue Pandemonium Warden that "dungeon" is glitched and doesn't appear on my screen.......

Alt. dungeons for life  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 18, 2015, 05:51:24 AM
Double Sakuya gravity would bring that HP down to 64% instantly. Issue is getting double Sakuyas through all that when you could be using double Hathor.

Why would you be using double Hathor when you can run double Sakuya with her fancy new super ult of x36 powah. And even without that x25 for 4 colors is still stronker than x20.25 for 5 colors. Like you can just run Indra to block high hits on either Hathor or Sakuya, and Sakuya is far bulkier than Hathor despite only losing 200~ish RCV per lead.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 18, 2015, 06:30:55 AM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150618_skill.html

LMeta: 2 turn bind heal -> 3 turn
Guan Yus: Now convert both poison and hearts to their respective color.

Nice LMeta buff.
Guan Yu legit anti-sea of poison utility
Where is my tinnin buff (ok I know they need to revive it but comeon it's their own ip they technically don't need to probably...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 18, 2015, 06:59:15 AM
People clearing the "free py" dungeon. (http://www.padpadblog.com/2015/06/blog-post_305.html?m=1)

I don't think I'm going to be able to replicate that Lucifer clear; among other things, you'd need to get either Parvati or Meimei on wave 15 (the other choices are Venus who spams binds, Shiva who basically kills you, or Kagutsuchi who basically kills you) in order to have skills up for Grisal on wave 16, and then rely on Neptune's poison resist to not get you killed so you have HP for wave 17, which can be Zeus-Dios and thus will kill you if you do get venom orbed.

Will probably just stick to alts if I need to; I've found that for the really annoying stages I can just Luci them to get them over with and then Athena or Minerva the last stage for fast clears.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 18, 2015, 07:01:34 AM
I thought Hathor leads get to run around with like twice the normal amount of HP and RCV?
People have been wanting gravities to get buffed or changed, but clearly the solution was to just increase enemy HP to the eight-digit range that normal damage won't work. :V

That's really convenient though that they placed the HP range at 65%, though. Even a Zeus gravity would put you in a safe range, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 18, 2015, 07:13:38 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHw82IyUcAAzQDJ.png)

here's the team I plan to use for the "free" Py dungeon once I skill max the rest of my subs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 18, 2015, 07:46:14 AM
NA Client Data Download just now...

-All PADAcademy Cards
-Kaguya
-Extreme King Metal TAMADRA
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 18, 2015, 07:54:06 AM
NA Client Data Download just now...

-All PADAcademy Cards
-Kaguya
-Extreme King Metal TAMADRA

The PAD Academy buffs are also being pushed to NA as well. NA's probably getting PAD Academy very soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 18, 2015, 12:18:48 PM
Apparently today was my one-year PADiversary. I thought it was Tuesday, but I guess it was today because the game gave me free stuff. Extremely modest free stuff, but hey, I finally skillmaxed my Apollo off the first one (you get two free gold super kings).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 18, 2015, 12:44:04 PM
You get the bonus on day 367, that's why. :v

Anyway I'm starting to consider a future Durga team. How does this sound:

Durga/Lumiel/Parvati/DIzanami/Beelzebub

All colors accounted for with water as the insignificant one since Parvati changes those away. And since ult Durga's LS can be triggered by any 4 of Dark/Wood/Fire/Water/Heart, she can still be used even if I change water away.

DIza is there for damage reduction since this team won't have amazing RCV in particular, and Beelzebub is there for the heavy hitting with Parvati-- and he can enhance dark to pair with Durga's active, which boosts everyone by 2x for a turn since everyone is God or Devil. Parvati can make up for the hp drain as well.

And of course, Lumiel is there because her active makes Durga colors.

In the end you have a bulky yet sustainable 25x burst team that can also do x50 twice and also go beyond even that with dark enhance. Fuckin' rad. 
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 18, 2015, 12:55:53 PM
KR is getting PAD Academy on Monday.

I no longer have any idea how this might interact with the batman collab redux...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 18, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
Christ, at this rate there's no way I'm skillmaxing two Izanamis before that dungeon expires. Too much to do is a good problem though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 18, 2015, 01:22:27 PM
KR is getting PAD Academy on Monday.

I no longer have any idea how this might interact with the batman collab redux...

As Chaore and I discussed in IRC earlier, we might have to update our versions to support Haste, because if it gets revamped with new stuff - that will probably in there, which means even more update speedup incoming? On top of that, it'll be a global release, and JP just got HxH announced, and since the game can only handle one extra egg machine at a time (PAL Evo Egg, Collab Machines, etc), there's no way they're getting it on Monday either.


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In other news, apparently UPC found even more data in our recent data download (possibly junk/placeholder data??) that y'all probably won't find anywhere else, and definitely not on the JP client since theirs already has almost all of this finalized. The following he managed to find:

>Divine Creator of Order, Vishnu

Suspected name for Vishnu's ult that doesn't even exist yet anywhere???

>Magic Hand Slayer Goddess, Durga

Durga's Ult?

Awoken Isis(inferred)

>Quick Guard: Changes 3 random Light/Dark Orbs to Heal Orbs; bind status is reduced by 2 turns

More random orbchange crap was going to be lumped in with AIsis. I will take the finalized version over this.

>Abyss of the Nile: 3x ATK when attacking with 3+ Att; 2x ATK when erasing 5+ linked Heal Orbs

Lakshmisis seems to have been the original intent???

Awoken Anubis(inferred)

>Underworld: Orb move time extended by 2 seconds for 1 turn; wood orbs change to Dark Orbs

Maybe too OP so they kept the counter instead???

>Jackal's Warning: ATK increases with 7+ combos up to 6.5x; 1.5x ATK for 1 Heal combo, 2x ATK for 2+

They actually tried to make Juggler Anubis a thing. Sad.

Awoken Bastet(inferred)

>Cat Scratch Fever: ATK increases with 5+ combos up to 6.5x; 1.5x ATK for Wood Att. when skills used

95x Bastet... smh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 18, 2015, 01:29:31 PM
rip x36 isis ;__;

lmao bastet
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 18, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
As Chaore and I discussed in IRC earlier, we might have to update our versions to support Haste, because if it gets revamped with new stuff - that will probably in there, which means even more update speedup incoming? On top of that, it'll be a global release, and JP just got HxH announced, and since the game can only handle one extra egg machine at a time (PAL Evo Egg, Collab Machines, etc), there's no way they're getting it on Monday either.

No, I mentioned that NA would have to update the versions to support Machine typing since it's been implied that the new Batman ults will be Machine typing, which NA has no support for yet.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 18, 2015, 01:56:40 PM
Awoken Bastet(inferred)

>Cat Scratch Fever: ATK increases with 5+ combos up to 6.5x; 1.5x ATK for Wood Att. when skills used

95x Bastet... smh

what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 18, 2015, 01:58:10 PM
No, I mentioned that NA would have to update the versions to support Machine typing since it's been implied that the new Batman ults will be Machine typing, which NA has no support for yet.

Right.  Either way, another speedy update will be required.  PadA and SB2 will buy GHJP some time to throw this stuff at the other regions.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 18, 2015, 02:05:58 PM
Right.  Either way, another speedy update will be required.  PadA and SB2 will buy GHJP some time to throw this stuff at the other regions.

I think that the update to a new client will be pretty much more timely than getting up to speed with descends, so I reckon global Batman Collab revival will come before the end of 2015.

what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Yeah, it's funny though that the LS listed there is literally the current Awoken Bastet LS but with a x6.5 cap instead of x4. And the G/D ult capped at x4.5 too to begin with.

smh One True Catte.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 18, 2015, 02:13:55 PM
I think that the update to a new client will be pretty much more timely than getting up to speed with descends, so I reckon global Batman Collab revival will come before the end of 2015.

There is also the ABastet/Sphinx issue inbound, so I expect that to pick up some speed as well.

Yeah, it's funny though that the LS listed there is literally the current Awoken Bastet LS but with a x6.5 cap instead of x4. And the G/D ult capped at x4.5 too to begin with.

smh One True Catte.

Even more curious - how do these translations look compared to what it currently says on JP? Not that I don't trust UPC or anything, but it would be nice to see how legit this data is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 18, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
There is also the ABastet/Sphinx issue inbound, so I expect that to pick up some speed as well.

I hope so. I'm days away from Ra being finished, so it would be nice if he didn't have to sit in my box unused for months.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 18, 2015, 03:36:34 PM
KR is getting PAD Academy on Monday.

FUCK
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 18, 2015, 07:37:09 PM
You get the bonus on day 367, that's why. :v

Anyway I'm starting to consider a future Durga team. How does this sound:

Durga/Lumiel/Parvati/DIzanami/Beelzebub

All colors accounted for with water as the insignificant one since Parvati changes those away. And since ult Durga's LS can be triggered by any 4 of Dark/Wood/Fire/Water/Heart, she can still be used even if I change water away.

DIza is there for damage reduction since this team won't have amazing RCV in particular, and Beelzebub is there for the heavy hitting with Parvati-- and he can enhance dark to pair with Durga's active, which boosts everyone by 2x for a turn since everyone is God or Devil. Parvati can make up for the hp drain as well.

And of course, Lumiel is there because her active makes Durga colors.

In the end you have a bulky yet sustainable 25x burst team that can also do x50 twice and also go beyond even that with dark enhance. Fuckin' rad.
I'd want to replace Lumiel with Persephone. Board changes aren't reliable  and I don't see a way to fix a bad board. Persephone's great. Great Burst and great recovery, which has been Durga's main problem. I'm also not that big a fan of Beelze in there. I don't think you'll be able to use the enhance that well, though idk who to replace him with.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 18, 2015, 08:01:46 PM
Persephone is fine, but she presents a similar issue- she takes away hearts, which can screw me over if I am missing a color. If anything, Lumiel guarantees a usable board that I can also use Parvati to make orbs with and heal while still dealing damage.

As far as Beelzebub goes, he's there more for his rad double TPA 2k+ atk. I could always swap him with Persephone if need be.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 18, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
If my experiences with Athena on Sakuya are accurate, even a board that presents only 4 light orbs will have Athena hitting for 500,000+ damage with barely any sort of enhances and 6~ combos. With Durga, you have two 2x damage enhances readily available, and while it doesn't have the +orb enhance power that Sakuya does, Durga herself has a higher ATK and a TPA to boot.

If Beelzebub could fit on a Sakuya team (lol) he'd be a monster, but he has Durga instead. As always, he's got a great toolkit to supplement most teams (orb enhance has a great effect in row teams, and TPAs let him do whatever), but just lacks the leader skill to do the super crazy damage that 2100+ ATK would imply.

Might I suggest... Starling? Converts light to water, which is okay, and heal to wood (which fuels Parvati TPAs!). You can even use Parvati to convert those water orbs back to heal if you need! High RCV as well!

Persephone is still a big deal for ~*~devils~*~ with that beefy RCV and overall stats.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 18, 2015, 09:05:05 PM
Starling is a maybe. Truth be told, this is the kind of team that doesn't *need* a lot of orb-changers, much less off-color ones when the main damage dealers are going to be Dark and Wood (Hypermax A.Parv hits like a damned truck and I have every intention of taking advantage of that.)-- the idea is to play her like a non-twinlit Chinagirl who can pull off their LS much more consistently than their standard and twinlit sisters. Durga has that freedom as well.

Water and Fire are the "these attributes are just there to fill in necessary colors" dump attributes who don't really need emphasis. Especially if Parvati changes water away, that means Starling will be doing zip in the damage department, kind of being a waste of a slot. Same goes for Skuld in my Parvati team, but she was never there for the sake of doing damage-- she's there for the sake of bulk and board changes.

That said, Starling is a good "get out of jail free" card, but Persephone would fuel the main team element far better, at a bit higher risk. She's still a stat stick, too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 19, 2015, 01:44:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/P4Xbogt.png)

It appears a birb found its way into my box.

Birb!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 19, 2015, 01:56:28 AM
There is also the ABastet/Sphinx issue inbound, so I expect that to pick up some speed as well.

Even more curious - how do these translations look compared to what it currently says on JP? Not that I don't trust UPC or anything, but it would be nice to see how legit this data is.

Current Data on JP:

Awoken Isis

LS Depths of the Nile
JP = ATK x3 for matching any 3 attributes (except Hearts), ATK x1.5 to Water attribute after using an active
NA = ATK x3 for matching 3+ attributes, ATK x2 after matching 5 linked Hearts

AS Quick Guard
JP = 15% Shield for 1 turn, heals 2 turns of bind
NA = Randomly changes 3 Light/Dark orbs to hearts, heals 2 turns of bind

Awoken Anubis

LS Jackal's Warning
JP = ATK x4/6/8/10 after reaching 9/10/11/12 combos, ATK x2 to Dark attribute after using an active
NA = ATK increases up to a maximum of x6.5 after reaching 7+ combos, ATK x1.5 with 1 hearts combo, ATK x2 with 2 hearts combo

AS Necro Bite
JP = Counter Damage x5 for 4 turns, change Wood orbs to Dark orbs
NA = Add 2 seconds of orb matching time for 1 turn, change Wood orbs to Dark orbs

Awoken Bastet

LS Cat Fever
JP = ATK x3/3.5/4 after reaching 5/6/7 combos, ATK x1.5 to Wood attribute after using an active
NA = ATK increases up to a maximum of x6.5 after reaching 5+ combos, ATK x1.5 to Wood attribute after using an active

EDIT:

JP Durga = Slaying Goddess of Demonic Palm, Durga
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 19, 2015, 02:34:57 AM
I have 30 pys

who do i use them on

Water: aIsis obviously. But I have plenty more for someone else. I guess Andromeda so I don't have to do fairies? Also aNep,
Fire: Either Hino or Goemon. Or I guess maybe Mamiya? Or Asuka lol
Wood: Only thing I have that isn't easily skilled up is potentially aMeimei. And even she can be skilled with Jewels
Light: Amaterasu, Valkitty, Wukong
Dark: Ult Beelz, Pandora, Chester, Gamble Mage and Joker lol

Or maybe I just keep holding on
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 19, 2015, 04:16:15 AM
It turns out i've been playing the game wrong once again. I have to feed skillups in the bathroom too for best results.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vp7RpC3.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 19, 2015, 04:52:49 AM
https://youtu.be/9-eAGMqs9Rk?t=27m15s

this guy is a guy who needs to stop showing off

https://twitter.com/bearpazubear/status/611561409705447425

this guy is a guy who probably will ragequit PAD for a while
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 19, 2015, 10:38:35 AM
Bet he really misses Isis' healing there!

Oh shit star vault tomorrow

Ty Jesus for it not being on a work day
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 19, 2015, 10:44:25 AM
Bet he really misses Isis' healing there!

hypermax Awoken Isis would only heal 2100 with Quick Cure.

The py does 3812 damage a turn.

He was going to die with or without the healing
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 19, 2015, 12:18:19 PM
Bet he really misses Isis' healing there!

Oh shit star vault tomorrow

Ty Jesus for it not being on a work day

Yaaay! It sucks a tiny bit that it overlaps Black Bowl  Dragon on double drops, but I can fix that by throwing one more stone at it, while I can't fix "happening during work" with stones.

If I get really lucky I can finish Ra tomorrow (he's +79/+99/+92 right now). Either way I gotta figure out who's next. Either Beyzul or Verdandi probably.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 19, 2015, 12:40:14 PM
https://twitter.com/bearpazubear/status/611561409705447425

this guy is a guy who probably will ragequit PAD for a while

Ragequit? If i was in his place my phone right now would lie somewhere in Antarctica.....

Crap, Star Vault while x2 Black Bowl! I fear i'll have to pass up the vault this time......

Oh and game, finishing about 4k short of the S rank was really mean.  :X
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 19, 2015, 02:29:41 PM
For anyone who still had any doubts about PadA, the REM has been confirmed in NA on 6/22 via time travel.

no escape
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 19, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
For anyone who still had any doubts about PadA, the REM has been confirmed in NA on 6/22 via time travel.

no escape

RNG PLEASE GIVE ME AN ISIS

thanks
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 19, 2015, 02:47:21 PM
I... Still don't know if I want to touch the REM. It'd just be a crapshoot for Andromeda. I know I shouldn't, but Imight end up doing it anyway. I don't have a ton of stones right now, maybe that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 19, 2015, 02:55:07 PM
RNG PLEASE GIVE ME AN ISIS

thanks

this is a bad idea.

no seriously, PAD Academy REM is fucking trash unless you have literally 0 of the Hero Gods.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 19, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
this is a bad idea.

no seriously, PAD Academy REM is fucking trash unless you have literally 0 of the Hero Gods.

I know this full well, but I will yoloroll anyway.  :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 19, 2015, 03:14:11 PM
I know this full well, but I will yoloroll anyway.  :fail:

well, as long as you know what you set yourself up for.

PAD Academy destroyed my soul; I slowed my progress down for 3 weeks because I was PAD-depressed... But I got over it and now I'm full steam ahead, I'll be able to hit rank 400 before my 367 day login bonus
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 19, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
I'll roll. Why not. But first my stones are going to star vault. Priorities.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 19, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
If I could cram every single stone I own into Star Vault I would. But the game won't let me, it gives them to me faster than I can spend them there, so I need other outlets. PADAcamdemy doesn't sound especially efficient, but I might give it a few shots and they won't hurt my Star Vault shenanigans the least bit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 19, 2015, 05:35:51 PM
For anyone who still had any doubts about PadA, the REM has been confirmed in NA on 6/22 via time travel.

FUCK
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 19, 2015, 06:05:50 PM
Not gonna lie, really wish i could get Isis and most of all Athena.
But considering the abysmal drop rate, and the fact that of everything else in the REM i only want Perseus and Wukong i'm probably not gonna roll on it..... maybe ONE roll for the hell of it but i doubt it....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 19, 2015, 06:13:19 PM
Athena is literally probably one of my most wanted green cards, tbh.

I've just already been burned from this mess, so six rolls, max.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 19, 2015, 06:20:16 PM
If anything, I just want more heroes. Any of the big pulls would be great, and even Chiyome is highly desirable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 19, 2015, 07:45:27 PM
Flarea-Ur used Eternal Thirst!
It doesn't affect Neptune...

Going at Hera-Ur with  Byakko has been more reliable than anything else I have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 19, 2015, 08:15:48 PM
If anything, I just want more heroes. Any of the big pulls would be great, and even Chiyome is highly desirable.

That's still banking on getting golds though. These things tend to be real silverfests.

That said, I'd be pretty happy with any of the golds except Lucifer. I already have Takeru x2, Wukong, and Perseus, but I think I'd happily pay five stones for more of them. I didn't think I wanted more Takeru, but the nightmare of skilling them up aside I might run Takeru/Takeru/Takeru/Takeru/Orichi/Rodin given the chance. And I guess I wouldn't even need skillups that badly...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 19, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
If anything, I just want more heroes. Any of the big pulls would be great, and even Chiyome is highly desirable.

Given I have no dupe heroes, I'd probably be fine with the same.

The prospect of Andro and Chester is also very nice.

chiyome or Schoolthena are my big scores here I think, thou.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 19, 2015, 09:09:27 PM
omg schoolgirl isis pls ;________________;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 20, 2015, 02:05:47 AM
your endless obsession is just jinxing you further and further
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 20, 2015, 03:14:03 AM
0/30 on angelits heyooooo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 20, 2015, 03:33:43 AM
Next NA stream announced. (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/1088283914533533/?type=1)

of note, this announcement was thrown up almost one whole fucking week in advance
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 20, 2015, 03:50:31 AM
My own speculation is that because Hanzo is in the banner...we're skipping Z&H for some reason and going to Kaguya-hime, since Hanzo shows up in the latter dungeon. That wouldn't make much sense though. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 20, 2015, 04:04:50 AM
The first time Z&H debuted was a big celebration for JP PAD what with the special background and all. They might be saving that for a big time in NA as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 20, 2015, 05:56:18 AM
i keep dying to friday dungeon floor 2 holy shit this is stupid

maybe i'll just say fuck it and feed my dark pys to dkali
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 20, 2015, 06:35:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/C93PY2G.png)

Finally one of those little shits dropped.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 20, 2015, 07:11:15 AM
Watching Anubis videos frustrates me. More often than not, it seems, there are boards where not even 8 combos are physically possible.

Makes me wonder what it would take to have an active that guarantees that 10 combos -can- be made.

"Creates 3 of R/G/B/L/D, 6 heal, 3 jammers, 3 poison, and 3 toxic orbs."

oh baby let the tradeoffs commence.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 20, 2015, 07:17:02 AM
FINALLY! All the fruit dragons skillmaxed! The last 2 skill-ups on Strawberry were torture, i was so frustrated i resorted to evolve the normal red drops.....
God, i ran that dungeon so much that Apple Drawn is one skill-up away from maxed, and he needs 16 skill-up!

Gungho, if you ever make an ultimate for them and you change their skills i swear i'll find a way to set your HQ on fire while staying at home  :X

Jp-side: game, you know i've been farming Breakers nonstop. I even somehow lucked out and beat on my only attempt the new legend difficult with an unevolved team..... all to get a golem.... A GOLEM! Am i asking you too much to drop one friggin golem?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 20, 2015, 07:35:54 AM
Jp-side: game, you know i've been farming Breakers nonstop. I even somehow lucked out and beat on my only attempt the new legend difficult with an unevolved team..... all to get a golem.... A GOLEM! Am i asking you too much to drop one friggin golem?

The point of Breakers is to get a Dark or a Machine Golem...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 20, 2015, 09:53:19 AM
The point of Breakers is to get a Dark or a Machine Golem...

I think you misunderstood me: i'm annoyed that i'm NOT dropping the dark or light golem. I've run Expert about 9 times and 1 time Legend, still zero golem drop  :V
I WANT the golem  :D

EDIT: finally got the dark one  :)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 20, 2015, 01:24:35 PM
EDIT: finally got the dark one  :)

I own the ultimate evolution of the Dark one, feel free to add me if u haven't already
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 20, 2015, 03:30:50 PM
Just had easily my worst Star Vault run ever. After 24 runs (and three stones) I have only 36 +eggs. Usually I get as many 4-5 + runs as complete duds, but not this time. The only attempt out of 24 that game me more than two eggs was my very last one. Oh well, still totally worth it for three stones.

Just need nine more HP eggs to finish Ra. Come oooon Sphinx, get here soon...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 20, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
Wait there's a challenge mode for the Py dungeon

why

how
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 20, 2015, 05:22:43 PM
Wait there's a challenge mode for the Py dungeon

why

how

Apparently Lucifer of all things, has already beaten it in JP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 20, 2015, 05:24:16 PM
Source on that. (https://twitter.com/tellu_poke/status/612061560169611265)

1) Awoken Anubis / DIzanami / Zaerog Infinity / Awoken Haku / Awoken Haku / D/B Batman?
2) Awoken Ra / Z&H / DKali / DIzanami / DIzanami / Muse
3) Student Council Lucifer / Z&H / Z&H / Z&H / Sagittarius Seiya / Heaven Neptune
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 20, 2015, 07:06:39 PM
aajsofasjfosefjieosjfo challenge 7 osiris lived with 1 hp whyyyy


all this fucking hypermaxing is still completely useless if you have bad luck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 20, 2015, 09:16:02 PM
1hp? Ouch. Best of luck Suikama!


<insert random curse> getting S rank in the black bowl dungeon is a real pita.... i'll have to wait for someone to put up Anubis as leader and hope that the goddamm skyfall doesn't screw me over in the combo average.

Btw, i have a few questions about the drops:

1) is Himi Udon worth keeping? AS + awakening seems good for no RCV dungeons / low RCV teams
2) should i try to hoard and evolve the Squid for skilling up Genie or it's easier to drop the Mugcorn in the gold bowl dungeon? (although i've never used the elementals  :V)
3) does Yatagarasu really appear only on Wednesday?

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 20, 2015, 09:58:45 PM
1) Yes, it used to be hard as fuck to get. Collect two more and keep a shrimp and a squid and an amberjack to make its future ult form, which has 4 heal awakenings, a light row, and two poison resist. And really nice stats.

2) Squid drop way more, but you still have to evolve them. I'd farm the mugs myself.

3) In every case I know of, yes. Why? I have no idea.



Anyway, finished Star Vault using the skillmax ROdin I BF'd today. 58 +eggs for 5 stones, not too bad. Would have been 4 if I hadn't majorly botched my rank up (ended up having 2 stamina left and 1000 exp to go and waiting would have been a waste of time orz).

It'll be even faster and better once I skillmax my own ROdins so I can farm it even faster.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 21, 2015, 03:26:39 AM
Christ, PAD seems to really hate me today. I dropped another stone to recoup more stamina for Black Bowl Dragon, and I'm up to 0/14 skillups in the last two days (edit: three days, although I didn't actually touch it yesterday) on Izanami. At this point I'd be ready to just give up on Black Bowl Dragon if not for the fact that I really would like to skillmax Susano, but I've gotten only a handful of leeks to drop and I'm 0/5 on those so far too. AND I got no skillups on either Kali after farming Twinlits all day yesterday, now that I think about it. My last two days have been real shit. I still made out pretty well from this whole event since I did great in the first chunk of it, but lately not so much at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 21, 2015, 03:43:29 AM
Ooh, there's an effortless, farmable version of "push button receive +eggs" for Star Vault

Fagan, max skilled Defoud, max skilled Tornado Holy Dragon...

never mind
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 21, 2015, 05:50:56 AM
I haven't done well at anything at all and frankly I am beginning to believe that 2.5x skillup is a fucking lie.

So I've given up and gone back to seaway farming.

Which has given me no blue pirates, no green pirates, and no motherfucking red tamadra. I have two ROdin to skill up, two Kushinada, and an UmiYama.


Ooh, there's an effortless, farmable version of "push button receive +eggs" for Star Vault

Fagan, max skilled Defoud, max skilled Tornado Holy Dragon...

never mind


See also: why I have two ROdin to skill up.

A team of ROdin/ROdin/Ronia/BOdin/MVD or HVD/ROdin in which the ROdins and Ronia are skillmax and the BOdin is at least SL3 means everyone is ready on turn 1.

The three ROdin can clear a floor before all the enemies even show up, and Ronia + MVD clears anything that isn't blue, which BOdin can finish off. Since you'll have an entirely red board for the boss, just flip an orb and they drop instantly.

Done right, this process takes all of 40 seconds. (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=um6ZdA42v3c)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 21, 2015, 06:01:34 AM
After the amazing 0/11 Gadius failure, things decided to turn up for me on the last day.

(http://i.imgur.com/6SeG6U3.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 21, 2015, 06:11:15 AM
i'd like to skillup izanagi but i cant even beat this dungeon half the time

im so bad

i cant even tell izanami apart from izanagi
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 21, 2015, 06:25:35 AM
please don't tell me you're trying to beat the dungeon with Isis
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 21, 2015, 06:26:02 AM
Wait there's a challenge mode for the Py dungeon

why

how

Well it's a technical dungeon, so it's gonna have a Challenge Mode :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 21, 2015, 06:27:13 AM
please don't tell me you're trying to beat the dungeon with Isis
Im not

Im tryin Athena but apparently she's weak as shit and cant kill the final boss ever

i also tried okuni and kushi but i cant hit 6 combos in a tricolor
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 21, 2015, 06:46:11 AM
Im tryin Athena but apparently she's weak as shit and cant kill the final boss ever

i also tried okuni and kushi but i cant hit 6 combos in a tricolor

match more tpas
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 21, 2015, 06:55:44 AM
when i match tpas i fail to 6 combo

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 21, 2015, 06:59:37 AM
when i match tpas i fail to 6 combo

i dunno though. it's still a tricolor. skyfall can at least help you with that.

so either you're unlucky as all hell or you need to get good
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 21, 2015, 07:06:33 AM
Im tryin Athena but apparently she's weak as shit and cant kill the final boss ever

when i match tpas i fail to 6 combo

(http://i.imgur.com/F0Iv9Wdl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/F0Iv9Wd.jpg)

Three TPAs, 8 combo. Seems to be doing fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 21, 2015, 07:57:38 AM
I agree with Suikama on this: FUCK - THIS - SHIT!

I've tried different teams and the only reliable one up until now has been dark-heavy Ronia/Beelz. And by "reliable" i mean that i had to friggin DUEL the boss down because i had to waste my only Ronia active after encountering 3 shrimps in 2 floors back-to-back.

S rank is still unattainable due to either me fumbling and not getting more than 5/6 combos or the skyfall being non-existent despite trying to cascade

The cherry on top is DIza's skill-up currently being 0/5


This is going to be a real piece of work....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 21, 2015, 08:13:06 AM
because i had to waste my only Ronia active after encountering 3 shrimps in 2 floors back-to-back.

do you even mass attack broe
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 21, 2015, 08:32:36 AM
do you even mass attack broe

Of course, but somehow i managed to NOT get 5 dark orbs in a tricolor 2 times  :X  The first was solved by Vamp but the second one i didn't want to risk going for mere 2-prongs since the shrimps were on lowest cooldown.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 21, 2015, 08:36:30 AM
Of course, but somehow i managed to NOT get 5 dark orbs in a tricolor 2 times  :X

ow

yeah, i never risk prongs on the shrimp unless i have enough damage to ensure a kill... which is not happening with green.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 21, 2015, 09:17:13 AM
FUCK YES, S RANK!

Ronia - Hadar - DQ Hera - D/D Haku - D/W Vamp - D/L Anubis

Had to use one stone on boss but at least this torture is out of the way.... Even got my first skill-up on DIza  :)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 21, 2015, 10:04:23 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/5gXXgDz.png) (http://i.imgur.com/WwAFW8X.png)

gg but U DIDE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 21, 2015, 10:47:33 AM
Hey. Byakko.

I would -really- appreciate it if you didn't make 4, and only 4, dark orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 21, 2015, 11:01:29 AM
Hey. Byakko.

I would -really- appreciate it if you didn't make 4, and only 4, dark orbs.

it's like those times verdandi only gives me 3 green orbs

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 21, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5gXXgDz.png) (http://i.imgur.com/WwAFW8X.png)

gg but U DIDE

My turn!

This is actually my second try. The first try was just extremely, extremely shitty luck because Gryps bound the only unit that had an available active. After I killed him, I had <1000 HP, and Pandora would have been ready the next turn for an easy sweep, but I just couldn't heal enough.

Stupid easy though when your luck ain't bad though.
(http://i.imgur.com/VTCN9a5.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/SMc3CxQ.png)

Better +egg rate than Star Vault, amirite?

Still gotta do Master difficulty, but I'm not worried.

Now to ponder what to even DO with this dude.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 21, 2015, 01:56:08 PM
Better +egg rate than Star Vault, amirite?

You might be onto something: just did 3 runs of Shadow Sprite - Expert for Fuma and Pandora skill-ups while on x2 drop.
Not a single skill-up dropped but i got SIX +eggs..... i'm basically running Star Vault at half stamina cost  :V

..... saying it like that makes me feel better about not dropping skill-ups  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 21, 2015, 02:22:07 PM
Regarding black bowl dagon, I had trouble with it at first with Verdandi because of thr relatively common shrimp/shrimp/mugcoffee floor. The lack of red in the dungeon meant I couldn't chip down their HP fast enlugh because I'm limited to eight attacks turn max, and I couldn't mass attack because chipping the coffee down to bind range is deadly. I died a few times to that trap, so I started bringing Echidna. Now I can make even fewer attacks a turn, but as long as I'm careful to keep her active charged she handles the shrimps AND the boss.

So my advice is bring Echidna. Unless you get careless charging her or extremely unlucky with your enemey spawns you shouldn't be able to die to much.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 21, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VTCN9a5.png)

egg drop in same position, +500 points

also i did get one plus egg... hmm
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 21, 2015, 03:54:00 PM
There's something magical about doing over 300k damage with just Liu Bei's sub-element.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 21, 2015, 04:02:36 PM
Ok game now it isn't funny anymore..... 5 expert runs with x2 drop and still ZERO drop between pirate and fairy? what the hell!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 21, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
I haven't done well at anything at all and frankly I am beginning to believe that 2.5x skillup is a fucking lie.

I don't think it's a lie, but it is kind of a trap. It's only 5% better than normal boosted skillups, which doesn't really matter that much. I keep thinking "I need to drop stones to get as much done in 2.5x skillups as possible", but that's dumb because 5% is negligible.

That said, I'm going to spend as much of my day as I need to evolving leeks so I can try to get more Susano skillups...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 21, 2015, 05:07:05 PM
Room for one more Gravis clear?

(http://i.imgur.com/8U7BtfGl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/8U7BtfG.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Vfoh5U5l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Vfoh5U5.jpg)

Kamui ate me for lunch the first time because of bad dark orb management, but the second time went a lot more smoothly. Goemon was probably overkill considering I already have a fullboard built in, but the extra HP was nice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 21, 2015, 08:48:09 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S7o0bGHI75I/VYcie_HMhgI/AAAAAAAABk0/IgTD66j5uMk/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

this team is highly illegal

this should not have worked.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 21, 2015, 08:57:21 PM
apple drawn has 12 skill ups no why im trying to skill up the fruits not this stupid thing
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 21, 2015, 11:47:29 PM
Oof, took me forever to evolve my six leeks, but I got two skillups out of them. Out of the last two, at that. Once I got to the fourth with no results I was getting pretty worried. I don't know if I could have survived more oppressive failure. But I didn't get failure, I got two skillups. Good. Every single skillup on Susano is very valuable because his cooldown is long, so this is great news.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 22, 2015, 12:11:23 AM
apple drawn has 12 skill ups no why im trying to skill up the fruits not this stupid thing

my own apple drawn sits at 15 skill-up... for your own sanity i hope you don't beat my record  :(

I'm going to stalk the last hour of 2x drop on the Sprites, XQ is one skill-up away from maxed *_* (and i want to hoard more Dark Fairies for Pandora)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 22, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
PAD academy is official on Facebook.

Be careful, it's a trap!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 22, 2015, 02:29:40 AM
PAD academy is official on Facebook.

Be careful, it's a trap!

Better watch your back at THIS school...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 22, 2015, 02:40:13 AM
Casual Sonia-Gran clear with the cat I made for the Awoken Bastet guide I write and maintain on the reddit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViK1NYZoKpM)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 22, 2015, 02:41:17 AM
fuck yes (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/612789973507379201)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 22, 2015, 02:47:36 AM
fuck yes (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/612789973507379201)

yes, she is so cute!! I'm so happy I have a dupe! I'll be making her right away !! :*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 22, 2015, 06:05:54 AM
Finally Grape and Berry max skilled, which were the ones I cared about the most. The others are 6, 6, and 4 but meh I've thrown enough stones at this damn dungeon already.

Also finally cleared challenge 7. Fucking wasted so much stamina to shitty floor 1s, then finally got not orbtrolled in the end for once >_>. I want to go after 8 for the bubpy but i need stones to sacrifice to schoolgirl satan ._.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 22, 2015, 06:35:12 AM
i threw 3 stones at it but challenge 8 cleared

1 for stamina, 1 for going full retard vs gabriel and thinking he had low hp like amon, and 1 because skuld gave me 5 water orbs THANKS


DARK BOWL DRAGON IS HARDER THAN CHALLENGE 8 WHY

MY TEAM DOES NOTHING

I NEVER GET SKYFALLS

WHY


someone please tell me the best team for this im too stupid to figure it out
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 22, 2015, 06:57:53 AM
DARK BOWL DRAGON IS HARDER THAN CHALLENGE 8 WHY

MY TEAM DOES NOTHING

I NEVER GET SKYFALLS

WHY

come on, don't be ridiculous. he can't be harder than challenge 8, right?

you make it sound like he's impossible. what are you actually trying to beat it with?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 22, 2015, 06:58:14 AM
I'm pretty sure I have no chance in hell of beating challenge 8 at this point in time, and Hagamar is simple in comparison. ???

Mass attack shrimp if more than one spawns; if they spawn with a mugcoffee then try to time those mass attacks so that you're not getting bound by it. Otherwise TPAs out the wazoo, orbchange at Hagamar unless it would completely saturate the board, use whatever boost you have, calm down, and make the 6 combo.

This is with Athena/GOdin/Verche/Rei Sirius/Izanagi/Athena.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 22, 2015, 07:01:06 AM
come on, don't be ridiculous. he can't be harder than challenge 8, right?

you make it sound like he's impossible. what are you actually trying to beat it with?
I tried Athena team, Genbu team, Okuni team, and Kushi team

I always die to kyubey

Like 3 times in a row I've made a huge combo only for it to somehow fuck up and heal him to full

I've never gotten a skyfall when I needed it why


Okay the Okuni team actually worked but I have like 1 Okuni on my list I cant farm with that

I should just use Isis already like fuck these guys
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 22, 2015, 07:04:14 AM
I should just use Isis already like fuck these guys

> No Wt

 :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 22, 2015, 07:06:21 AM
Pandora. Takeru. Bunch of crap I can't feed off x2.

I should've stopped at the takeru, but nope.

edit: (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6FFDC9KJCYU/VYe0VxSKoMI/AAAAAAAABl8/2rIg0B3ocRE/w506-h900/15%2B-%2B1)

eyyy i'm broke, but worth.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on June 22, 2015, 07:42:46 AM
> 3 chibi-Perseuses (in a row)
> Perseus
> chibi-Sun Wukong

I think it's time to resign from this so-called "PAD Academy"...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 22, 2015, 07:49:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2nlaRxzl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/2nlaRxz.jpg)

senpai I don't think you understand how buffs work

(http://i.imgur.com/I77M492l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/I77M492.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/IMi9QhZl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/IMi9QhZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 22, 2015, 07:56:43 AM
Hera-Ur tried to reprimand me. Something about a no-pets on campus thing.

Oops. (http://imgur.com/jFwqEGK)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 09:10:27 AM
First try:

(http://i.imgur.com/Ohbf2v3.png)

Oh fuck you game. Fuuuuck yooooou. You know what, just for that, I'm not doing any more. I'm turning this REM around and going home. Maybe you're even trying to give me a sign, but message not received.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 22, 2015, 09:13:47 AM
I... I did it

I finally did it

I BEAT TRUE ENDLESS CORRIDORS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Time to collect my stone and pull the...


this game never fails to disappoint


Also change my leaders to Isis + Andromeda

she's my new carry
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 22, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/17OZtrg.jpg)

I knew throwing money at this was a bad idea. Oh well.

Edit:

Got wrecked in the academy twice. First time on the first floor, I was against 2 1cd carbuncles with no wood orbs whatsoever. Second time, Senpai noticed me too much and heartscrewed me so I couldn't heal and had no skills because of the slow effect.

However!

(http://i.imgur.com/QHMqDiI.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 22, 2015, 01:01:39 PM
[08:34:16] <Edible> Ah yes, I have felt the suffering and it is good.
[08:34:24] <Edible> One gold egg, and it's my fourth pandora :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 22, 2015, 01:31:56 PM
all you need now is juggler :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 22, 2015, 01:38:01 PM
Or Typhon!

Anyway, felt lucky and decided to buy one more pull before giving up. And it was Perseus!

My Parv team just got that much better.

Edit: Oh shit he gets TWO skill bind resists? Oh man oh man oh maaaaan
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 22, 2015, 01:38:59 PM
Was only gonna do one, did two.

>chibiAmmy
>chibiROdin

I...uh...own a ROdin now...?  not sure how I should feel about this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 22, 2015, 01:40:22 PM
Feel good! He's a nice triple tpa hard hitter! (And you can use my ROdin for farming star vault too once I finish skilling him up.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 22, 2015, 01:43:10 PM
Oh riiight, he still gets to like 1500+, doesnt he?  Yeah, guess that can work.  now if only I had a team to put him on.  Still, I imagine the triple TPA is gonna make him run some stuff over once he's leveled and I have a place for him.  Plus it's not like I'm ever getting any fullsize Odins, haha.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 22, 2015, 01:48:00 PM
You guys are making very convincing points for me to NOT try the Academy REM..... one roll and stop seems a really good idea.

This morning on NA --> 7 runs for the last skill-up on DQXQ...... Fission Mailed  :colonveeplusalpha:

2 minutes ago on JP --> stupid touchscreen makes me utterly botch the combo on last boss of a technical...... skyfalls turn a 2-hit combo with 1x into a 11-hit combo with 14x (Karin/A.Bastet) that oneshot the boss O_O


P.S. Out of curiosity (and trollness  :V) Suikama, what would you do if my only roll was scholarship Isis?  :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 22, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
bbyAndromeda and bbyPersesus  ??? I had a total of zero Heroes before so oh well!  Might yoloroll again because why not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 02:32:51 PM
Oh riiight, he still gets to like 1500+, doesnt he?  Yeah, guess that can work.  now if only I had a team to put him on.  Still, I imagine the triple TPA is gonna make him run some stuff over once he's leveled and I have a place for him.  Plus it's not like I'm ever getting any fullsize Odins, haha.

I think he's a decent Urd sub, and if you're anything like me you'll have a mountain of Urds you need subs for at some point. Red prong guys seem kind of rare, so take them where you can I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 22, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
I think he's a decent Urd sub, and if you're anything like me you'll have a mountain of Urds you need subs for at some point. Red prong guys seem kind of rare, so take them where you can I guess.

nah red tpa is getting more love than red rows nowadays; last buff red rows got was Awoken Leilan, meanwhile...

Red Valk
Awoken Kagutsuchi
Awoken Shiva
R/G Cao Cao
Chibi Chiyome
Chibi Rodin
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 03:13:22 PM
nah red tpa is getting more love than red rows nowadays; last buff red rows got was Awoken Leilan, meanwhile...

Red Valk
Awoken Kagutsuchi
Awoken Shiva
R/G Cao Cao
Chibi Chiyome
Chibi Rodin

Well, Rodin ultimate was HUGE and recent. And that's still a tiny pool for prongs. Maybe they're pushing prongs more lately, but there's still a solid backlog of red row stuff that means rows have a lot more options. And a few of the things you mentioned also have a row, which makes them plenty good on row teams. Maybe eventually red prongs will be the thing, but I don't think we're there yet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 22, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
Well, Rodin ultimate was HUGE and recent. And that's still a tiny pool for prongs. Maybe they're pushing prongs more lately, but there's still a solid backlog of red row stuff that means rows have a lot more options. And a few of the things you mentioned also have a row, which makes them plenty good on row teams. Maybe eventually red prongs will be the thing, but I don't think we're there yet.

Awoken Shiva's already destroying C10 and is as having some of the best reward to effort ratios, so red prongs are looking pretty good right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dr Rawr on June 22, 2015, 04:03:59 PM
i got 2 mini isis and a mini red odin and mini chiyome
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Awoken Shiva's already destroying C10 and is as having some of the best reward to effort ratios, so red prongs are looking pretty good right now.

I'm not saying they're not good, they have some amazing tools. Just not a wide variety of them yet. I'm saying Lil' Rodin is a good thing to have since he's a piece to a team that seems great, but hard to build. I wish I just had Red Valkyrie, then I might be able to pull it off.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 22, 2015, 04:54:40 PM
CCool is essentially right here- Red Prong exists, but the pool is incredibly small and if you didn't roll mini-chiyome or Kagu its much much weaker.

Not to mention two of the important cards (leader and tri-prong) are both awoken forms.

It takes a good chunk of luck to run red prong, while Red row you can build incredibly easily.

As an overall, Red row is much stronger, but right now there's no 'mainstream lead' so people are thinking red rows are dead.

It'd switch around overwhelmingly fast if like Awoken Takeru happened.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 22, 2015, 04:57:32 PM
I want this guy in NA. And i want it for the art. Full stop.

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/MONS_2121_zpsb4uvkzpv.jpg)

And this guy can go jump off a cliff with my blessing.

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/r67KEYj_zpsnbrg9pvw.jpg)


On a completely unrelated matter, i'm really agonizing over evolving Shiva and Haku to their Awoken forms. They are both often used in my Ronia team..... but they are so powerful as awokenssssssssss (especially considering i have TWO Kagutsuchi unused in my box)  :qq:  Any advice beside "get dupes"?  :V
Karin isn't even into question.... Awoken as soon as possible *.*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
And this guy can go jump off a cliff with my blessing.

Hey now, I have no ill will toward that guy. I decided I wanted a car, he decided he wanted more PAD. I'm happy with my end of that arrangement, so I got no problem. I wonder if he has more fun than me when he plays this game? I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 22, 2015, 05:12:01 PM
I decided I wanted a car, he decided he wanted more PAD.

.....why Sakuya popped into my mind as soon as i read this line? Touhou's fandom is ruining me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 22, 2015, 05:14:10 PM
.....why Sakuya popped into my mind as soon as i read this line? Touhou's fandom is ruining me

Booooo.

BOOOOOOOOOO.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 22, 2015, 05:46:25 PM
So there's some false advertising going on ingame right now. I suggest people try to bring this to light to GH so people aren't decieved.

[13:37] <Chirei|scoole> so ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[13:37] <Chirei|scoole> someone's gonna have to answer at GH for this one somehow
[13:40] <Chirei|scoole> so this is just a sample red team I slapped together with hyorin's sister's hyper leilan as a friend lead, nothing strange here
(http://i.imgur.com/WGuPbf5.png)
[13:40] <Chirei|scoole> This is jq's chibi rodin *ingame* as of like five minutes ago (note the LS)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ra4tYOF.png)
[13:41] <Chirei|scoole> this is the same team with the *level 4* chibi rodin as a lead
(http://i.imgur.com/xjsHB8G.png)
[13:41] <Chirei|scoole> note the HP values
[13:41] <Chirei|scoole> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

rdj edit: [12:43:52] <~rdj522> Checking PDX, his leader skill is identical to the actual ROdin (i.e. 1.5x HP/2.5x ATK)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 22, 2015, 05:52:02 PM
Ahahahaha, this is glorious.  Thanks so much for looking into that!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 22, 2015, 07:08:49 PM
That just makes him all the better, though!

Meanwhile!
(http://i.imgur.com/9XfQeTk.jpg)

GREAAAAAT!

(http://i.imgur.com/cfKFzx3.jpg)

Now it is me. I am the senpai.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 22, 2015, 07:34:21 PM
Gdit, all I wanna do is set up a dumb stream and all I can get is the inbuilt twitch app.

rip me

edit: nevermind I am a golden god
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 22, 2015, 09:10:07 PM
Welp, decided to do 2 rolls in the Pad Academy just to not leave regrets behind:

chibi Yamato
chibi Wukong

bah....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 22, 2015, 11:06:13 PM
I have apparently earned the title of "sneaky" today by figuring out a way around Hera-Ur's slow effect:

(http://i.imgur.com/TwZw6mnl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TwZw6mn.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 23, 2015, 12:46:59 AM
DARK BOWL DRAGON IS HARDER THAN CHALLENGE 8 WHY
someone please tell me the best team for this im too stupid to figure it out

Late, but I personally went through your PADHerder and just randomly slapped together a team made of only stuff you could use. I was going to use Diza but I couldn't get a Dubmythlit to drop today, so I just used Alraune instead for health.

(http://i.imgur.com/eflyBSb.png) (http://i.imgur.com/UHk8nCX.png)

Not that hard. 0-stone on first attempt.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 23, 2015, 01:38:22 AM
I mean I can beat it no problem, but I can't consistently clear it for actual farming


PaD academy was easy however with a friend SS Isis <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 23, 2015, 02:01:13 AM
Well, Rodin ultimate was HUGE and recent. And that's still a tiny pool for prongs. Maybe they're pushing prongs more lately, but there's still a solid backlog of red row stuff that means rows have a lot more options. And a few of the things you mentioned also have a row, which makes them plenty good on row teams. Maybe eventually red prongs will be the thing, but I don't think we're there yet.

Rodin ultimate is huge, but for actual row teams he's a huge double-edged sword because his active is garbage for a row team such as Yamato Takeru. The only red row he's actually pretty good on is for Ult Goemon farming teams... But Rodin ult isn't gonna help in tackling descend content or Challenges.

Going back to this:

As an overall, Red row is much stronger, but right now there's no 'mainstream lead' so people are thinking red rows are dead.

It'd switch around overwhelmingly fast if like Awoken Takeru happened.

Yes, the main problem I have with red rows right now is that all the former red row leaders are pretty old, and running Awoken Leilan with rows is basically saying you have a high amount of skill to produce rows while matching the three necessary colors; this isn't terribly difficult with Lei's AS, but on natural boards or orb-changed boards it can be a bit harder. If Awoken Heroes happened at some point then red rows are probably going to be seeing some great use again.

As it is, the most I've seen of red rows currently is Ult Goemon Farming teams. >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 23, 2015, 02:19:09 AM
Someday, there might be a red row dragon team of RGY followed by Uriel, Ronia, Minerva, and Yamato Takeru. That day is not today.

Dragons are cool, though...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 23, 2015, 02:45:20 AM
Someday, there might be a red row dragon team of RGY followed by Uriel, Ronia, Minerva, and Yamato Takeru. That day is not today.

Dragons are cool, though...

RGY is okay.

GGY on the other hand...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 23, 2015, 02:57:58 AM
Green physical just got Meimei! ... except she's a doubledonger.

Who came up with that idea, even. Green physical?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 23, 2015, 03:02:55 AM
Green physical just got Meimei! ... except she's a doubledonger.


Awoken Meimei's used for the Physical typing?

*looks at her Attacker typing* :*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 23, 2015, 03:10:54 AM
Yes, the main problem I have with red rows right now is that all the former red row leaders are pretty old, and running Awoken Leilan with rows is basically saying you have a high amount of skill to produce rows while matching the three necessary colors; this isn't terribly difficult with Lei's AS, but on natural boards or orb-changed boards it can be a bit harder. If Awoken Heroes happened at some point then red rows are probably going to be seeing some great use again.

As it is, the most I've seen of red rows currently is Ult Goemon Farming teams. >_>

I mean that's essentially my point.

Red prong is flavor of the few months.

Red row is the overwhelming archetype of the color.

Red prong just needed a lot of catching up, so they decided to take care of that in a few fell swoops. A. Lei is pretty much a sign they've got something in the works for red row in the future.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 23, 2015, 03:19:47 AM
Rodin ultimate is huge, but for actual row teams he's a huge double-edged sword because his active is garbage for a row team such as Yamato Takeru. The only red row he's actually pretty good on is for Ult Goemon farming teams... But Rodin ult isn't gonna help in tackling descend content or Challenges.

I don't disagree with that at all. His active is incredibly situational at best, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a viable tool for red rows. Not one that's going to see play in every possible slot, but he's not nothing.

As for modern row leads... Uriel? I mean, if we're discounting the fact that the subs are hard to get, since that's certainly the case with red prongs, then a Uriel/Wangren team should work. It could even probably use Rodin as the partner lead, since my Gabriel team uses I&I and a lot of the time and their active is similarly dubious on a team that already runs Sun Quan. In fact, for some hardcore content Rodin's active might actually be good for grinding bosses. I use Awoken Neptune's active to chip down a lot of floors in God Rush.

Does anyone here have the tools to do Uriel/Takeru/Femme/Wangren/Freyr/Rodin? I want to see someone try that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 23, 2015, 03:35:37 AM
Does anyone here have the tools to do Uriel/Takeru/Femme/Wangren/Freyr/Rodin? I want to see someone try that.

(http://i.imgur.com/YmKE3m2.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7XJlpRm.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/AHsMDpz.png) (http://i.imgur.com/xSRRqhU.png)

Pick your poison
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 23, 2015, 08:04:24 AM
Somehow ended up with enough dark orbs on the board to allow me to get three fire rows, saving me from certain doom.

(http://i.imgur.com/i6QPWbpl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/i6QPWbp.jpg)

he's not getting anyone, sad to say, tiny Flamie kid :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 23, 2015, 08:47:23 AM
My rank 90 friend rolled the PAD academy machine twice even though I tried to tell him it was a silver egg trap.

1) yamato takeru
2) Discipline Committee Chair, Ira Gamagoori Athena

Whelp.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 23, 2015, 09:18:45 AM
My rank 90 friend rolled the PAD academy machine twice even though I tried to tell him it was a silver egg trap.

1) yamato takeru
2) Discipline Committee Chair, Ira Gamagoori Athena

Whelp.

7 star on second roll, wow.

I rolled some yesterday and got only chibi chiyome on the 4th roll.
gonna roll the rest of my stones today or tomorrow. Lets hope for more gold :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 23, 2015, 09:56:37 AM
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/613266602096656384

Quote
"Nobody really likes dungeons with type or attribute restrictions, so we've been looking into adding stat modifiers (such as HP x1.5, RCV x0.5) on specific types or attributes to dungeons. How's that?"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 23, 2015, 10:06:03 AM
I was looking at the Riders 2.0.... with all the Haste actives coming out lately doesn't a max skilled Phoenix Rider becomes almost the same as the infamous Baggi?

He can come really close to 100% uptime like Baggi and has better stats. I find a bit surprising that everyone and their grandma sing praises/drown in envy of Baggi but not so much about the Rider....


EDIT
"Nobody really likes dungeons with COST RESTRICTIONS, so we've been looking into adding stat modifiers (such as HP x1.5, RCV x0.5) on specific types or attributes to dungeons. How's that?"
After all these years they STILL get it wrong?!?!?  :matsuriscowl:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 23, 2015, 10:12:12 AM
I was looking at the Riders 2.0.... with all the Haste actives coming out lately doesn't a max skilled Phoenix Rider becomes almost the same as the infamous Baggi?

He can come really close to 100% uptime like Baggi and has better stats. I find a bit surprising that everyone and their grandma sing praises/drown in envy of Baggi but not so much about the Rider....


EDITAfter all these years they STILL get it wrong?!?!?  :matsuriscowl:

Phoenix Rider is really good. In all honesty, 100% uptime might be really overrated, it's probably not like you can't get strong enough to like, survive a full-power hit for a turn, we've been doing it for ages.

And yes, cost restriction is way way worse. Thank fuck they haven't released more of those lately.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 23, 2015, 10:14:14 AM
Phoenix Rider is really good. In all honesty, 100% uptime might be really overrated, it's probably not like you can't get strong enough to like, survive a full-power hit for a turn, we've been doing it for ages.

And unlike Baggi, Phoenix Rider just got a skill up...................................... in a JP-only collab :colonveeplusalpha:

God I want a Phoenix Rider.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 23, 2015, 10:26:49 AM
And unlike Baggi, Phoenix Rider just got a skill up...................................... in a JP-only collab :colonveeplusalpha:

God I want a Phoenix Rider.

Did they already say it will remain JP-only?  ???

Same reason as Dragonball et similia?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 23, 2015, 10:32:32 AM
Did they already say it will remain JP-only?  ???

Same reason as Dragonball et similia?

Duel Masters is basically dead in NA. :V

Even its spiritual successor Kaijudo also died.

Also AFAIK collabs which get released in NA are almost simultaneous with JP. NA got the revamped Hello Kitty collab about 1 or 2 weeks after Japan.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 23, 2015, 11:32:13 AM
And yes, cost restriction is way way worse. Thank fuck they haven't released more of those lately.

And I'm still building a team for Gaia  ::) I hope I get a second echidna soon...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 23, 2015, 02:12:27 PM
I AM A MORON.

First attempt at Academy Mythical. All goes well and i also got some nice skyfalls that would probably ensure an S rank. Then i have a complete IDIOT MOMENT and utterly botch the first Ronia active + enhance.
Of course the second one leave Hera with a sliver of life and i eat a boosted UR FEVER for the kill......  :X

And since by luck i had synced the clear with a rank up now i also have to wait to retry. Fuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 23, 2015, 02:47:50 PM
When Black Bowl Dragon started I could almost never get filler to drop (I'd usually get two trash mobs to drop on Mythical, sometimes just one). But now for some reason I'm consistently getting at least four drops, usually five. It's making collecting leeks a lot easier, so good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 23, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
Phoenix Rider is really good. In all honesty, 100% uptime might be really overrated, it's probably not like you can't get strong enough to like, survive a full-power hit for a turn, we've been doing it for ages.

And yes, cost restriction is way way worse. Thank fuck they haven't released more of those lately.

I thought most of the Baggi praise came from challenge 10, where things throw trucks at you every turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 23, 2015, 08:49:51 PM
The good news is I can clear alts reliably now.

The bad news is I ground out a stone and got a dupe perseus :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 23, 2015, 09:19:34 PM
I will help you: swap with my chibi wukong  :V

Urgh, i hope the next x2 skill-up comes soon..... between fairies, pad academy and black bowl my box is almost overflowing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 23, 2015, 09:31:57 PM
The good news is I can clear alts reliably now.

The bad news is I ground out a stone and got a dupe perseus :V

I'm assuming you're making a distinction between "Perseus" and "perseus"?

Urgh, i hope the next x2 skill-up comes soon..... between fairies, pad academy and black bowl my box is almost overflowing.

No kidding, my cup runneth over. And I'll already dreading having to grind out the Emelits to evolve all these new leeks...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 23, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
I'm assuming you're making a distinction between "Perseus" and "perseus"?

Yeah.  I got a dupe Perseus as well, but that's neither here nor there :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 23, 2015, 09:54:36 PM
oh fucking hell you can just stall out kyubey's combo shield :colonveeplusalpha:

also I have a 100% winrate with Isis so farstill best girl even with no blue orbs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 23, 2015, 10:00:32 PM
:hi5: alt dungeon buddy
(http://i.imgur.com/Ewyto93.png)
yes good alt dungeons can stay
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 23, 2015, 10:04:39 PM
oh fucking hell you can just stall out kyubey's combo shield :colonveeplusalpha:

Looking at the screen to see numbers is difficult, I know. :V

Meanwhile my academy farming team actually works pretty well when I'm not dumb. Could work slightly better if my Damascus were skilled up and awakened at all, but that'd take time I don't really have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 23, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
:hi5: alt dungeon buddy
(http://i.imgur.com/Ewyto93.png)
yes good alt dungeons can stay

oh shizzzzzz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 23, 2015, 11:13:39 PM
I'm too busy trying to obtain Golden Keepers. Needing them for both Apocalypse and LZL skill ups is true suffering.

Just behind Ronia and Urd skillups, of course.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 23, 2015, 11:23:12 PM
i have finally found the secret to this stupid dungeon

it is none other than grape dragon

resists dark, grants heals, gives no fucks
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 24, 2015, 01:35:02 AM
Hmm, I have enough Himi Udons to make their ultimate form now, but Amberjack is nowhere to be found. I don't reeeeally want to take up five slots in my box with weird food until I can find one but... Sure I do. I want Ultimate Udon just for novelty value so I guess I have no choice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 24, 2015, 01:48:34 AM
yes good alt dungeons can stay

GIVE ME THAT ALT DUNGEON ROTATIONNNNN

:colonveeplusalpha:

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 24, 2015, 05:43:51 AM
oh hey wtf i actually have all the subs for a legit Valkitty team (https://game8.jp/matome/19890)

but no Valkitty friends...

...

HEY EDIBLE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 24, 2015, 06:10:44 AM
Remember kids, always look at dungeon info before tackling a hard stage!  Just got what SHOULD have been a nostone clear of Zeus Mercury but due to my not knowing he used Protection of the Gods, I did not delay Hera-Is the floor before and she killed me at about 10-15%.  Being so close I stoned to get the finish and Merc was pretty simple sinc he kept feeding me ammo, but still.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 24, 2015, 06:19:31 AM
oh hey wtf i actually have all the subs for a legit Valkitty team (https://game8.jp/matome/19890)

but no Valkitty friends...

...

HEY EDIBLE

Why not just use Wukong?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 24, 2015, 06:58:53 AM
How in the &%$&? did i manage to die 3 times in a row against Kyubey with Ronia/Beelz?!?!?
What the fuck is wrong with me?

Yesterday was a wipe-fest in pad academy, today black bowl.... And always for some idiotic mistake, immediately followed by LOLTROLL just to ensure that i die in dungeons that i should own without problems!

example from my latest attempt: Ronia active for the kill ---> didn't notice that Kyubey was on the last turn of 5-combo shield ---> IDIOT --> 4 rows + 1 4-orb, 28 fresh tricolor orbs, zero skyfall combo, Kyubey back to almost full --> LOLTROLL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 24, 2015, 07:37:12 AM
Awoken Karin (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/613609003885555713/photo/1)

[16:15:35] <trance|work> https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/608156828166320130/g9hc4pj8_reasonably_small.jpg pii: "deal with it"
[16:18:54] <Chirei> what a coincidence that you happen to post that because this just happened http://i.imgur.com/Rf2jrp1.png

holy shit i wish i could get pii that often
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 24, 2015, 10:22:13 AM
Awoken Karin (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/613609003885555713/photo/1)

My future Awoken Lakshmi team is squealing in delight.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 24, 2015, 10:55:39 AM
While i'm quite happy that Karin DIDN'T get Devil (i main a devil team and even i am sick and tired of half the good cards getting devil) and the expected triple resist LS is simply wonderful there is something that i don't understand.....

why double poison resist? Wouldn't have been better only 1 poison resist and either another skill boost / water enhance / skill lock resist?
After all, her AS is already a 100% poison remover....

It just seems a bit random.... (the first person mentioning "water diluite poison so it makes sense" will lose half of my respect  :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 24, 2015, 11:06:35 AM
It's been a long grind. Glad to have made it this far. To 450 more!

(http://i.imgur.com/ujrrw50.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 24, 2015, 11:14:57 AM
Huh. I thought I beat goldos mythical.

(http://i.imgur.com/K5uAOJ0.jpg)

Fixed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 24, 2015, 04:20:13 PM
Take a closer look at Karin's stats; that high HP and low RCV means that Karin will be hit incredibly hard by any and all poison attacks.

Would be, rather. Dual Awoken Karins gives 80% resist, which can easily be topped off one way or another. Attacker typing and all means Neptune is a viable enhance with his row enhance in tow; Dragon typing means both Pirate Zaerog and Draggie function and are on-color.

If you roll with Neptune, you can do an incredibly silly combo with Zeus Mercury and Ruel; 24 water orbs, 3 wood orbs, 3 dark orbs. Maximum water carnage.

None of the mostly desirable heartbreakers have an on-color sub attribute; Physical Vampire might just work out (haha, work out) what with that extra skill and all.

Other options, should you not focus entirely on rows (because rows on a China girl are hard!) include Sachi bros, Uvo Starling, Skuld+Physical Vampire...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 24, 2015, 05:53:28 PM
I'm more weirded by the attacker subtype, if anything :v

God damn, those stats are good though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 24, 2015, 06:18:43 PM
I thought that nothing could top Trifruits in annoying people...... i thought wrong.
Pad Academy is hands down the dungeon i absolutely HATE the most (and this despite the boss music being really catchy).

I've cleared it a grand total of ONCE in about TEN attempts. Ronia/Ronia, Ronia/Lu Bu, Ronia/Beelz..... doesn't matter what team i bring, there is always SOMETHING fucking me up. The latest one was a clean run, and then the ?$%& game decided i didn't need to heal against Hera. Not even a full board refresh due to Ronia active gave me THREE goddamm heart orbs!

So now i can proudly say that i died with a Ronia/Ronia team because i couldn't heal enough.....


Sorry for the rant, had to vent for a bit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 24, 2015, 06:50:32 PM
I haven't tried PADAcademy yet because I've been busy grinding out Black Bowl, but I keep hearing horror stories. Maybe I'll give it a go later just to see what happens.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 24, 2015, 06:58:47 PM
It's really not bad unless you get heartscrewed. Be sure to conserve what you have for Ur-Senpai's first attack, because she delays all of your skills for 2 turns.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 24, 2015, 07:04:10 PM
I came here to complain about always getting heart screwed by Senpai. I guess it is in character
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 24, 2015, 08:47:35 PM
y'all don't know what heartscrewed is until you have to eat two Hera-Senpai attacks with Purin levels of RCV

Or... space my damage out such that she enhances on turn two, if I absolutely can't eat two hits.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 24, 2015, 09:21:54 PM
Great success cheesing it with a lkali team and ra.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 24, 2015, 09:33:08 PM
I just roll in with LMeta and the only time I died was when I left Chester at like 3% by accident once ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 24, 2015, 09:36:51 PM
oh my god awoken karinnnn :*

Compared to B/D Karin, she has more attack, another row, skill lock, and time+, which just screams screams perfect Isis sub.

the only issue is she isn't dark anymore, but that can be covered by Bodin, with which you'll have 10 water rows *-*

I still hope they make ult Nut B/D though. And give her some better awakenings too. Then bam perfect team *-*


I really really need to roll Karin now ._.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 24, 2015, 09:48:12 PM
If I ever get an andromeda or something for Lakshmi, I'm all over Awoken Karin tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 24, 2015, 11:16:05 PM
Oh shit, 2x skillups. Let's see how sad I am today.

Susano: 1/5
Izanami: 4/12
Himi Udon: 0/1

Sadness prognosis:  :D :D :D

Now I've got one skillmax Izanami and one with a single skillup. Pretty great. Susano is two from max, and I still have six unevolved leeks left. Thanks for not fucking me over game, I do appreciate it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 24, 2015, 11:28:00 PM
im doing it

its regret academy time

chibi perseus
Andromeda (lol)
chibi Andromeda (wow really)
...ANDROMEDA

LIKE

OKAY

SERIOUSLY

whatever i kind of want all the chibis lets go
ammy
Perseus
yamato
wukong
andro
wukong
wukong
ammy
ammy
rodin!
wuking
isis finally
yamato
ammy
ammy...
wukong
wukong holy shit why no pandoras
...wukong

wtf why no pandora whyyyyy

okay skillup time i guess
1/4 ammy
3/7 wukong huh not bad... he's almost max skilled now wtf i didnt ask for this
0/1 andro
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 24, 2015, 11:34:59 PM
im doing it

its regret academy time

chibi perseus
Andromeda (lol)
chibi Andromeda (wow really)
...ANDROMEDA

LIKE

OKAY

SERIOUSLY
Geez, wouldn't mind just one of those fullsize Andros, haha.  Of course I'd sooner let ccool take one if it worked like that, but alas.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 24, 2015, 11:42:31 PM
chibi perseus
Andromeda (lol)
chibi Andromeda (wow really)
...ANDROMEDA

 :wat:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 24, 2015, 11:48:29 PM
i wish at least one of those was a karin from the Christmas rem ._.


also i main chibi isis now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: triangles on June 24, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
She's really precious I can't judge.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 25, 2015, 12:21:48 AM
Lol prong

This will take forever but I'm gonna do it
http://imgur.com/RIQqd2n
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 25, 2015, 01:00:52 AM
Lol prong

This will take forever but I'm gonna do it
http://imgur.com/RIQqd2n

Christhammer. Yeah, that's... About the team. Jealouuuuus. ;)

Edit: Maybe Urd leads, at least for now?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 25, 2015, 01:08:42 AM
Hooooly sheet. Just went 2/7 on Apocalypse. Only need three more skillups on Apocalypse, and two more on LZL and I can be done with Golden Keepers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 25, 2015, 03:47:00 AM
bluh actually if both these andromedas were karins instead i'd be so set... One Karin awoken, the other B/D...

why gungho why

why do you always hurt me ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 25, 2015, 03:53:58 AM
Oh, an urgent x2 skill-up, great!

DIza: 0/3

Thanatos: 0/3

Hera-Ur: 0/3

Michael: 1/1

Yup, x2 indeed  :derp:
So after all the rage trying to reliably clear those 2 dungeons the only actual skill-up came from PEM....  :flamingv:

Oh and Suikama, thanks for showing that limiting myself to only 2 rolls in the Academy REM was a good idea.... dear god man, the more i scrolled down that list the more i felt sorry for you.... and the cherry on top is that despite all the chibis you got (and your own Andromeda System  :V), you still missed Chibiyome!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 25, 2015, 03:54:39 AM
i didnt even get pandora either >____>


at least i got chibi isis, or else there would be maximum salt...



also maybeee Sphinx + awoken egypts on Friday? gungho pls the faster we get those guys the faster we get to Awoken Isis...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 25, 2015, 04:02:13 AM
Lol prong

This will take forever but I'm gonna do it
http://imgur.com/RIQqd2n

rcv where did it go
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 25, 2015, 04:09:17 AM
i didnt even get pandora either >____>


at least i got chibi isis, or else there would be maximum salt...



also maybeee Sphinx + awoken egypts on Friday? gungho pls the faster we get those guys the faster we get to Awoken Isis...

Oh shit oh shit gotta hurry I need four more HP +eggs for Ra aaaaaah!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Moogs Parfait on June 25, 2015, 04:13:59 AM
Like Trifruits, you just don't get hit.

I really like glass cannon playstyles and gravitate to them.

But I have a secret plan for Twinlits I hope to show off soon!  It will be amazing
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 25, 2015, 04:19:46 AM
rcv where did it go

It's not too bad. If everything's ulted and max level, it's about 2.1k RCV without +eggs, which is pretty cool wihen you have 22k hp or so. I'd want to replace red Odin  with someone that has more RCV though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 25, 2015, 04:20:21 AM
also maybeee Sphinx + awoken egypts on Friday? gungho pls the faster we get those guys the faster we get to Awoken Isis...

The stream post's banner implied Kaguya-hime, but the "ancient" in the event notice could very well mean Sphinx. We'll have to see.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 25, 2015, 04:24:14 AM
they should really do two new descends per event now because we are so goddamn far behind on those...


other things are catching up but Zeus&Hera came out IN FEBRUARY


Also Japan is SPEEDING UP with like 8 new dungeons just this month
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 25, 2015, 04:29:51 AM
I've been experiencing unacceptable-tier slowdown in PADSchool. The first time I went in I assumed it was because my phone was being weird, but it's been consistent for all three of the different, spaced out runs I did. Anyone else seeing this or know what's causing it?

Edit: How rare is Yatagarasu? I guess I've never farmed a dungeon they appear in on Wednesday before, but I got three of them today. If they're that common then applicable cards are way easier to skill up than I thought. Not easy of course, they're still kind of a bitch, but not impossible. Did I get lucky?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 25, 2015, 05:19:33 AM
It's the background objects. Turn them off in the mid-dungeon menu.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 25, 2015, 05:48:10 AM
I've been experiencing unacceptable-tier slowdown in PADSchool. The first time I went in I assumed it was because my phone was being weird, but it's been consistent for all three of the different, spaced out runs I did. Anyone else seeing this or know what's causing it?

Edit: How rare is Yatagarasu? I guess I've never farmed a dungeon they appear in on Wednesday before, but I got three of them today. If they're that common then applicable cards are way easier to skill up than I thought. Not easy of course, they're still kind of a bitch, but not impossible. Did I get lucky?

I think they're about the same rate as other invades. I'd guess maybe 5-10%? I can't remember the numbers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 25, 2015, 07:12:32 AM
>Divine Creator of Order, Vishnu

Suspected name for Vishnu's ult that doesn't even exist yet anywhere???

he exists now, with that exact name

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/613965184223162368/photo/1
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 25, 2015, 07:15:22 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dwuHJzzR1dw/VYuqUsD710I/AAAAAAAABoI/9MpgN-M6ZnA/w428-h685-no/15%2B-%2B1)

eyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 25, 2015, 07:28:57 AM
eyyy

ayyyy lmao

:getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 25, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
Typhon and Gadius just got more op as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 25, 2015, 11:44:49 AM
Defoud was the last thing I needed to beat to finish Dragon Challenge.

(http://i.imgur.com/1qqgSbX.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/sffwWPr.jpg)

i guess i fixed that
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 25, 2015, 12:23:46 PM
It's the background objects. Turn them off in the mid-dungeon menu.

It didn't occur to me that could be the problem because they're so inconspicuous, but fair enough. I also didn't know that was one of the things you could do mid-dungeon. I don't know why my new phone is so much worse at rendering PAD than my old phone, but that'll come in handy I'm sure.

I think they're about the same rate as other invades. I'd guess maybe 5-10%? I can't remember the numbers.

Oh wow, so actually pretty rare. I got lucky, I would have guessed 20-30% from my small sample size. Never mind, not plausible skillups at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 25, 2015, 12:32:47 PM
I'm glad Apoc got a boost.  Now he needs an awoken evo.

Ult vishnu is crazytown good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 25, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
Final Judgement sits at 10 cd when maxed.

Pompurin Dance is at 11.

It's like they understand my needs perfectly.
What would Apoc's evo materials be, do you think? Fagan? Zaerogs? Number dragons? Diagoldos and Kanetsugu?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 25, 2015, 01:38:25 PM
If he gets one it'd just be a regular ult evo most likely, so ... probably just a gold keeper (hurr) / dragon fruit / mystic mask / dub amelit?  Since I bet he'd go light/dark.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 25, 2015, 03:22:57 PM
Thought I would run seaway to rank up so I could hit king carnival at max stam.
(http://i.imgur.com/tK433DL.jpg)

Fuck.  Not today I guess. :negative:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 25, 2015, 04:36:38 PM
> Ult Vishnu

Now I'm glad I skilled mine up even if it isn't complete yet.

My GZL team wants him so bad, he even has a skill-lock resist to give my gzl team a 100% resist lol

Heck him and Awoken Meimei can't come soon enough, my GZL team is bordering on optimal at this point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 25, 2015, 04:44:01 PM
> Ult Vishnu

Now I'm glad I skilled mine up even if it isn't complete yet.

My GZL team wants him so bad, he even has a skill-lock resist to give my gzl team a 100% resist lol

Heck him and Awoken Meimei can't come soon enough, my GZL team is bordering on optimal at this point.

At this point, I'd say forget leading with GZL and lead with Vishnu/Meimei instead.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 25, 2015, 04:55:41 PM
At this point, I'd say forget leading with GZL and lead with Vishnu/Meimei instead.

True enough, Vishnu/Awoken Meimei/GZL/Leeza/Liu Bei/Vishnu gives me almost as much of a multiplier without being destroyed by any forms of heals, also has 100% skill-lock resist, still makes use of GZL's active and has 7 skillboosts so I can pop Vishnu on turn 1 if I want to. It also has a 100% chance of enhanced wood orbs lol.

It is a little on the squishy side though, but then again, I suppose that holds true for GZL as well, especially with the 80% HP requirement lol.

(I could also do Meimei lead although I would need to sack something (probably leeza) for GOdin since he's my only really good G/L monster.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 25, 2015, 07:04:06 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AsMnJ8-nets/VYxQTS7Bi8I/AAAAAAAABpQ/60WuNhm194A/w428-h685-no/15%2B-%2B1)

EVEN MORE UNLIMITED POWER
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 25, 2015, 09:13:05 PM
Wow I sure do love trying to do defoud and dying on the first floor because I started with only one fucking green orb rip 99 stam I hardly fucking knew you
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 25, 2015, 11:10:56 PM
finally took sandalphone out after making dumb mistakes twice

'nother stone for the stone bucket
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 25, 2015, 11:26:32 PM
'nother stone for the stone bucket

STONES FOR THE REM GOD

REM FOR THE SALT THRONE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 25, 2015, 11:59:47 PM
shit its kaguya

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 26, 2015, 01:41:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/HwMPnPr.jpg)

what the hell is up with these random S-ranks on first tries
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 26, 2015, 02:00:28 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/HwMPnPr.jpg)

what the hell is up with these random S-ranks on first tries

awokenbastet.jpg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 26, 2015, 02:22:52 AM
awokenbastet.jpg

7.9 avg combo; awokenbastet.jpg = op
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 26, 2015, 02:25:01 AM
abrokenbastet.png
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 02:44:33 AM
Ha ha oops. I bought Plant Dragon Infestation from coin dungeons to evolve a few batches of a Leeks but without really thinking about it I went nuts and farmed thirty extra ones. I sincerely hope Susano is skillmax before I need almost any of those.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 26, 2015, 04:23:49 AM
At worst, drop them on the level maxed Pengdra you get from these coin dungeons. It's not so big a loss when you convert them all to 45,000 exp chunks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 04:41:32 AM
Yeah fair enough, I haven't done alts lately so I didn't realize we were on that rotation. That'll be handy. And Black Bowl ends soon, so I'll be back to not having a schedule next week. Plenty of time for alts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 26, 2015, 07:48:25 AM
1/10 Susano feeds. Now SL4.

Have I mentioned that I've had Susano since like my second month of playing? :persona:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 26, 2015, 08:56:28 AM
Chinese + Greco/Roman Godfest incoming...... i'm going broke over this  :V

WTF?!?!? In the PDX homepage there is BIKINITRON among the gods featured!!! Was she always there during GF and i simply removed her from my memory or does that mean this time she is at 3x rate?  :o


P.S. .....sometimes i really wonder if someone voodoo cursed me or this game truly have a troll feature implanted:

- "ok lets farm Black Bowl" ---> haha zero Beelze availables despite having 7+ in friend list ---> "ok i'll farm pad academy with Ronia/Ronia"

- floor 1: OHKO - floor 2, Water Fairy: OHKO with a godly 14-hit skyfall combo --->  "holy shit, this is probably my ONLY chance to S rank this goddamm bastard"

- floor 3: 3HKO with Haku active and 7+ combos - "oh man it's really happening! I'll use Ronia to OHKO Lucifer! Even if it cost me a stone on Hera this is going to be S Rank!"

- had to make a call with my phone, reopen the game screen after 10 minutes......  FLOOR 1 ---> "WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF?!?!?!?"

- cleared the dungeon but the skyfall was different so no S rank


..... i hate you game, i truly do.  :X
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 26, 2015, 09:21:13 AM

- had to make a call with my phone, reopen the game screen after 10 minutes......  FLOOR 1 ---> "WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF?!?!?!?"


this can happens when you leave the app in the middle of combo/skyfall.

also, Bikinitron was a mistake. Check pdx
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 26, 2015, 10:35:51 AM
this can happens when you leave the app in the middle of combo/skyfall.

also, Bikinitron was a mistake. Check pdx

If it was in the middle of something i could understand, it happened before when i got an unexpected call. But this time I was making the call, so i made sure to leave the app when it was waiting for my next move....

Checked pdx... hope crushed  :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 26, 2015, 11:12:24 AM
How to kill Kaguya, I wonder.
Going at it with Beelzebub x Beelzebub, or Beelzebub x Lu Bu seems possible. Use Neptune or Lilith (most likely Lilith here) to stop her from resurrecting; just have to burst her 75% HP in one go.

Or use a gravity. I might use a Hera gravity maybe, Lu Bu it up.

Oh. Hera gravity takes forever. Ain't no heal orbs to stall for that.

Attackerasu might be able to do it? No TPAs, so just throwing on the biggest stat sticks available and weathering it out...

Ugh but L/L Ammy hits so hard, what is she doing?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 12:25:27 PM
I've got my fingers crossed that Verdandi can do it. No prongs sucks, no skillboosts suck even more, but maaaaaybe I can pull it off. This is one of the rare times I regret not having finished a second Verdandi. Another source of hearts would probably be a lot more useful than Odin or Susano.

Speaking of Susano, I just went 0/15 on skillups on him from all the leeks I had saved up. For like 1/23 or something overall this morning.

😑
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 26, 2015, 01:18:24 PM
I've got my fingers crossed that Verdandi can do it. No prongs sucks, no skillboosts suck even more, but maaaaaybe I can pull it off. This is one of the rare times I regret not having finished a second Verdandi. Another source of hearts would probably be a lot more useful than Odin or Susano.

Speaking of Susano, I just went 0/15 on skillups on him from all the leeks I had saved up. For like 1/23 or something overall this morning.

😑

Verdandi is apparently one of the best to fight it out with. tbh you really just need something to "oneshot" Ama. If you have heartmakers I don't think Kaggers herself will be that much of a problem.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 26, 2015, 01:49:49 PM
Verdandi is apparently one of the best to fight it out with. tbh you really just need something to "oneshot" Ama. If you have heartmakers I don't think Kaggers herself will be that much of a problem.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIPd1CAUEAEZ9pc.png)

Grind Ama down to 50% and then kill her

EDIT: for clarification. kaguya herself is easy with verdandi since you have truckloads of HP. It helps if you have. an enhancer like GZL

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 03:00:05 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIPd1CAUEAEZ9pc.png)

Grind Ama down to 50% and then kill her

EDIT: for clarification. kaguya herself is easy with verdandi since you have truckloads of HP. It helps if you have. an enhancer like GZL

Hmm, it would be nice to have Perseus leveled and evolved right now. I don't have him ready, but I do have GZL.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 26, 2015, 03:07:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIPd1CAUEAEZ9pc.png)

Grind Ama down to 50% and then kill her

Doing so would require about 1.1 million damage burst - I don't know how many people are able to do this on 9x~10.89x consistently.

My recommendations is to take teams into EC and try to do 3-matches to check damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 26, 2015, 03:16:10 PM
I might be okay with my Parv team. Four heart makers and I can ditch ceres for Asgard or Odin or something.

Otherwise, maybe Parv x Verdandi or just break Sakuya out and sweep it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 26, 2015, 03:18:02 PM
i'm gonna blow everyone up or die trying

probably die trying
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 03:18:36 PM
I wish no-awakening Endless Corridors were available. Even with three-orb matches I still have to contend with the damage from all of my orb enhances. Still, your point is well taken, I'll do that.

Might have to bring Susano anyway then though, for another high-attack sub to be boosted by GZL. Maybe I can find somewhere to stall him up, his active would be extremely handy if I can charge it. I could even tank Ama's hard hit (although I'd still probably lose if it came to that).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 26, 2015, 04:10:52 PM
I wish no-awakening Endless Corridors were available. Even with three-orb matches I still have to contend with the damage from all of my orb enhances. Still, your point is well taken, I'll do that.

Might have to bring Susano anyway then though, for another high-attack sub to be boosted by GZL. Maybe I can find somewhere to stall him up, his active would be extremely handy if I can charge it. I could even tank Ama's hard hit (although I'd still probably lose if it came to that).

Use logic. Scale down however much excess damage you think you're doing. I know you're good enough at this point to do this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 04:23:56 PM
I still might not understand the underlying math clearly enough to do that. Assuming I just bring my normal Verdandi team, which I probably will, I have seven greem enhances. So does that mean each instance of green damage is just straight-up increased by 140% (assuming that all involved orbs were enhanced and nobody's bound)?

If that's the case, I can do that math. For some reason I have it in my head that orb enhance math is monstrously complicated, but I might just be wrong.

Edit: I just did a few test runs, and got around 2 million green damage out of each summoning circle. No prongs, yes GZL. I think both were seven combos, and neither was an especially good board (lot of hearts). There was also a fair amount of red damage that I didn't account for.

So if I did my math correctly on the orb enhances, that should be around 1.45 million from green, plus at least some red. Sounds pretty promising. Of course, I was also at full health both times and I probably won't be in the dungeon after chipping Ama for a few turns. Hmm...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 26, 2015, 04:37:54 PM
I still might not understand the underlying math clearly enough to do that. Assuming I just bring my normal Verdandi team, which I probably will, I have seven greem enhances. So does that mean each instance of green damage is just straight-up increased by 140% (assuming that all involved orbs were enhanced and nobody's bound)?

If that's the case, I can do that math. For some reason I have it in my head that orb enhance math is monstrously complicated, but I might just be wrong.

For the record, when math things like this come up, I only use rough approximations as opposed to rdj's down to the pixel math for Lucifer. You should have hopefully played enough game at this point to visualize a rough approximation of damage, I think.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 04:42:25 PM
For the record, when math things like this come up, I only use rough approximations as opposed to rdj's down to the pixel math for Lucifer. You should have hopefully played enough game at this point to visualize a rough approximation of damage, I think.

Yes for Gabe, not so much for anyone else. Too many variables, hard for me to visualuze. I've also been tinkering with my secondary and tertiary team a lot, so damage fluctuates a decent amount anyway. Damage estimation is a skill I do not have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 26, 2015, 05:47:28 PM
For the record, when math things like this come up, I only use rough approximations as opposed to rdj's down to the pixel math for Lucifer. You should have hopefully played enough game at this point to visualize a rough approximation of damage, I think.

Helpful? Yes. Necessary? Heck yes. (http://i.imgur.com/MfIEWYO.png) :fail:

Eventually I'll be able to do rough approximations with other teams myself, but I have more of a handle on Luci's damage than others.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on June 26, 2015, 06:16:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ioTjgC8.png)

JACKPOT  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 26, 2015, 07:09:05 PM
I still might not understand the underlying math clearly enough to do that. Assuming I just bring my normal Verdandi team, which I probably will, I have seven greem enhances. So does that mean each instance of green damage is just straight-up increased by 140% (assuming that all involved orbs were enhanced and nobody's bound)?

If that's the case, I can do that math. For some reason I have it in my head that orb enhance math is monstrously complicated, but I might just be wrong.

Edit: I just did a few test runs, and got around 2 million green damage out of each summoning circle. No prongs, yes GZL. I think both were seven combos, and neither was an especially good board (lot of hearts). There was also a fair amount of red damage that I didn't account for.

So if I did my math correctly on the orb enhances, that should be around 1.45 million from green, plus at least some red. Sounds pretty promising. Of course, I was also at full health both times and I probably won't be in the dungeon after chipping Ama for a few turns. Hmm...

Do note that Kaguya-Hime is no hearts, no awakenings. Your enhances are as worthless as my TPAs here. Only raw multipliers matter.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 07:36:59 PM
Do note that Kaguya-Hime is no hearts, no awakenings. Your enhances are as worthless as my TPAs here. Only raw multipliers matter.

Wait, what? Did you not actually read any of that conversation? That's literally what we were talking about. I mean, if not for those restrictions we wouldn't need to talk about this, everyone would be able to just blow her away without a second thought. And besides that, if I was factoring in awakenings I would have been a lot more worried about my TPAs on my prong team than my enhances.

And so on. At any rate, thanks for the concern, but I got it.😊
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 26, 2015, 07:52:49 PM
It's hard to keep track of a conversation when you only get a chance to look in every few hours at work, chill.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 26, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
Oh, I'm chill. Sorry, I genuinely didn't intend that to come off mean. I do appreciate the input. If I didn't know that then that would've saved me a lot of trouble I'm sure. But I do is all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 27, 2015, 01:12:23 AM
If you are worried about NOT doing enough damage, just match as many 3-color matches of your team's color in a single match at once.

GZL enhance + 4 green combo almost one-shot KaguyaHime for me on Mythical, and she does have a fair bit of HP with x3.1 multiplier
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 27, 2015, 02:16:33 AM
Aaaah my first Mythical run I got killed by TsukuTami. It was totally my dumb mistake too, I've been killing so many fried shrimp lately by splashing them with two-prong damage that I reflexively tried to do the same thing to the Tamadra even though I should've known full well it wouldn't work. This should work though, the skydragon gives me so much stall time that I can have Susano up no problem by the end. I can just tank a hits from Amaterasu if things go too wrong, and Kaguya really shouldn't be a problem. I just gotta not confuse myself and I should be good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 27, 2015, 02:58:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/x4lPqKr.jpg)

fffffffffffffffff
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 27, 2015, 03:01:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zhG3xJsl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/zhG3xJs.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/P4k1gaAl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/P4k1gaA.jpg)

:toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Yukarin on June 27, 2015, 03:42:50 AM
0 stone very possible with horus. bring a shield
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 27, 2015, 04:02:53 AM
Turns out, TAMADRApurin can handily deal 75% of 3 million HP using an Apocalypse board and no awoken skills (http://imgur.com/1gOhMdW)

sheesh  I didn't even need a Purin enhance
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 27, 2015, 04:16:10 AM
<Chirei> Video later once I find a replacement for sony vegas 10 orz

(http://i.imgur.com/5df2MLj.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 27, 2015, 04:28:35 AM
<Chirei> Video later once I find a replacement for sony vegas 10 orz

(http://i.imgur.com/5df2MLj.png)
>18 combo

Rude.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 27, 2015, 04:56:34 AM
Stream summary for those who missed it/didn't feel like watching:

-- The stream itself was handled a lot better!
-- 3 stones/3 tamas
-- next event is almost certainly Sphinx and Awoken Egyptians (they explicitly showed Sphinx and Horus/Bastet)
-- possibly some collab stuff in the works; Michael was about to say he was excited for something, but it seemed like someone from off camera cut him off (NDA issues?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 27, 2015, 05:01:01 AM
Stream summary for those who missed it/didn't feel like watching:

-- The stream itself was handled a lot better!
-- 3 stones/3 tamas
-- next event is almost certainly Sphinx and Awoken Egyptians (they explicitly showed Sphinx and Horus/Bastet)
-- possibly some collab stuff in the works; Michael was about to say he was excited for something, but it seemed like someone from off camera cut him off (NDA issues?)

Additional Stuff:

-Michael and Antonio will be appearing at AX, along with a now fully translated version of the PADChallenge App.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 27, 2015, 05:39:01 AM
-- possibly some collab stuff in the works; Michael was about to say he was excited for something, but it seemed like someone from off camera cut him off (NDA issues?)

my death nears

atleast i have my bank account free to myself now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on June 27, 2015, 07:43:21 AM
-- next event is almost certainly Sphinx and Awoken Egyptians (they explicitly showed Sphinx and Horus/Bastet)

In this case, I've been thinking of how to best remake my Horus team and this is the best I can come up with (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=2009.99.1.99.99.99.8..1423.99.1.0.0.0.8..1217.99.1.0.0.0.6..1422.99.1.0.0.0.6..984.99.1.0.0.0.3..2009.99.1.99.99.99.8).

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 27, 2015, 08:08:36 AM
In this case, I've been thinking of how to best remake my Horus team and this is the best I can come up with (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=2009.99.1.99.99.99.8..1423.99.1.0.0.0.8..1217.99.1.0.0.0.6..1422.99.1.0.0.0.6..984.99.1.0.0.0.3..2009.99.1.99.99.99.8).

Thoughts?

i don't know how updated your padherder is, but Godin is a really suboptimal sub for that team even given his bulkiness, because he does no damage. Preferably have an extra Red sub or something there. LMeta should only be used as a way to handle binds. Athena is OK. Gigas is also OK, but he's neither God nor Devil, so he has no bonus from Horus LS.

EDIT: Here's what I came up with

(http://i.imgur.com/TvHSw8t.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 27, 2015, 11:50:52 AM
Managed to get kaguya to drop on legend. Don't know if I want to try mythical again, this dungeon is such bullshit if you don't have precisely the right units.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 27, 2015, 01:56:17 PM
Managed to get kaguya to drop on legend. Don't know if I want to try mythical again, this dungeon is such bullshit if you don't have precisely the right units.

I dunno, considering that I almost no-stoned Mythical using Purin of all things (and only one low cd orb changer!) I feel pretty confident that I could actually get it done.

Maybe I should use Athena instead of LZL in this case; higher attack and HP means I probably would have downed Hanzo in time. The 8000 heal is nice but it still takes too long.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 27, 2015, 03:00:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ajitjNG.png)

Guya get. No-stoned with my normal Verdandi team (Verdandi/Cuchu/Liu Bei/GZL/Susano/Verdandi). I won't goof, that was legitimately difficult. Took me three tries.

The goblin/Tamiyodra floor is a real crapshoot because you need to have a good board going in and probably won't have most skills up by then. If my Sasuke was done I would've used him over Cu Chu to prevent that, but he isn't.

The Hanzo floor is honestly surprisingly tough because his defense is actually huge and he has a lot of health. Even for a guy who effectively attacks every four turns he killed me once and nearly killed me the second time. I probably just should've accepted that the correct thing to do was pop actives on him, but I had it in my head that he was "easy", so I refused to do it stupidly.

Ama was actually not a problem at all. I accidentally hit her to JUST under her full heal (which is going to happen a lot by virtue of the lack of hearts inflating every combo count unpredictably), but I just used Verdandi+Cu Chu+GZL and cleanly one-shot her from full health. I keep forgetting the value of throwing the book, orb-wise. I always try to go for most distinct matches even when the correct choice is just "change most of the board to x color, get like three big matches, and win". Doesn't hold true in every case certainly, but it did this time.

Kaguya was pretty easy, but there were two turns (should have been one but I fucked up and forgot to pop Susano the turn he became active) where I would've lost if she used gravity. But the odds of that were low and she didn't, so I didn't.

Anyway, I don't think I could farm this with this team. Now that I've learned the way to get past a couple of floors that I let kill me before I could come closer, but the third floor is too scary, especially if everything comes up on low cooldowns. Last time in everything was 1/1/1, which is terrifying. Luckily I had a great board and was able to just blow away both gerblins, but if I didn't have much green on board I would've been boned for sure. Tough dungeon, would be made a little easier by a slightly higher stable attack modifier (Chinese? Probably not since high HP matters a lot too) and a few fast orbchangers that don't need hearts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 28, 2015, 01:21:25 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/QKnnFdw.png)

Hypermax A.Bastet yay.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 28, 2015, 08:04:18 AM
Congrats trance! So jelly right now  :3

You know, i've reached the point where i find it almost funny: 0/18 on Hera-Ur. If this keeps up i might actually be the only player in NA that doesn't get a single skill-up on her despite 1 week of farming the descent specifically designed to do so  :V

And the funny part is that i might as well don't give a single fuck about it since her AS, even max skilled, is just 1 turn shorter than Ronia and her only use is against the final boss.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 28, 2015, 09:41:13 AM
Took my new hypermax cat out for a spin doing True Dragon Realm. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D12t4-HnQio)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 28, 2015, 11:44:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/VO9lN50.jpg)

Pretty sure that's the last non-kaguya mythical I needed to have beaten them all with AParv. So gonna use her on Dragon Challenge coming up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 28, 2015, 12:16:02 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UqUvCU6.jpg)

Good, 10th team slot obtained. Don't need to worry about team slots now!!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 28, 2015, 12:22:19 PM
Kamui Survey apparently on the 29th. Grape skillups there as well if you still require them.

If this keeps up i might actually be the only player in NA that doesn't get a single skill-up on her despite 1 week of farming the descent specifically designed to do so  :V

I haven't skilled her up at all! ...Because I don't actually care.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 28, 2015, 12:41:20 PM
I haven't skilled her up either.... Because I don't have dancing queen Hera-Ur ;v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 28, 2015, 02:11:32 PM
Apparently there are interesting comments from the artists in a certain PAD Artbook that was released...

Itou Youichi


Abyssal Darkdragon Vritra (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1927) - the black balls are made of the accumulated hate of the players towards him over the years.

Divine Flower Suzaku, Leilan (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1262) - I regret drawing her...

Shinnosuke Hino

Valkyrie Femme (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1728) - the youngest, but strongest Valkyrie!

Valkyrie Elize (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1730) - the only one with butterfly wings.

Valkyrie Claire (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1731) - apparently works as an assassin...

Valkyrie Reine (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1729) - has OCD and is a neat freak!

Thor (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1347) - Oops...

Murase Rintaro(?)

Perseus (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1734) - Andromeda was originally supposed to be in the background for his Ultimate Evolution!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 28, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
Note to self: Buy PAD art books
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 29, 2015, 12:04:08 AM
Note to self:  That's enough PADAcademy rolling.

Third card:  Dupe Perseus.

/me sighs, saves any other stones he gets for the coming Godfest

At least a certain milestone is coming verrrry soon so I'll have a bit of banked ones no matter what!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 29, 2015, 01:29:26 AM
jesus what a weekend

so my internet went out (among another things) and i missed out on two days of stamina and whatever dungeons were happening

also turns out when i bought stones for the school rem, gungho charged me twice

oh boyyyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 29, 2015, 01:51:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pbLvsVo.png) (http://i.imgur.com/IbYpdJn.png) (http://i.imgur.com/15m4PwA.png)

blind mythical run done with a.bastet, legend run done with sarasvati

refreshing change of pace after the past 2 descends were LV1 format.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 29, 2015, 03:37:27 AM
A few days ago I accidentally farmed what I thought was way too many Dragon Plants to evolve my leek collection. Well, turns out it wasn't too many. I just used the last pair and Susano still isn't skillmax. I'm not sure how many leeks I've fed him, but I'd guess it's in the ~35 area. I can't evolve any more leeks I get today, so I won't know when it's safe to stop. Would be a shame to let him go unfinished after all that work.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 29, 2015, 04:02:17 AM
gungho what did you do to journey to the west wtf
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 29, 2015, 12:47:05 PM
>wake up exactly at 7AM

>way too much time before school

>maybe i should eat something

>...

>naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

(http://i.imgur.com/gKIHPAl.png) (http://i.imgur.com/lPeXBrg.png) (http://i.imgur.com/PZMrL4a.png)

Turns out ACeres actually makes it so easy for me that I can basically farm this now - but I have to average 6+ combos with TPAs on certain floors.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 29, 2015, 02:20:44 PM
Wow, pretty impressive. I still haven't really worked out if I can no-stone it with Gabe yet and I don't think I can because Threedia. Good stuff.

Edit: Also, good job on keeping up those combos that early in the morning. I can't even average five combos right after I get up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 29, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
Wow, pretty impressive. I still haven't really worked out if I can no-stone it with Gabe yet and I don't think I can because Threedia. Good stuff.

Wangren and Threedia are the "uh-oh" zones for this. Soul Cure makes Threedia easier, but both of them have titanic health and have to be taken down in like five turns. Effectively a skill barrier before this works as farmable. After that I'm home free. I actually got DFagan this run and I just sat there eating Extreme Dark Dragon Waves like it was nothing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 29, 2015, 02:56:39 PM
Recorded a run of the new Descend in Japan using Zaerog Infinity team. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYMeEcOsnls)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 29, 2015, 03:00:47 PM
Edit: Also, good job on keeping up those combos that early in the morning. I can't even average five combos right after I get up.

Not shown: I was actually being lazy and doing 4-5's on DFagan and Zaerog because I was kinda bluhh still. Though Zaerog is reduced to an almost non-threat and the former was reducing my movement time down to a piddling 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 29, 2015, 05:51:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TnaZCEQ.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 29, 2015, 07:21:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TnaZCEQ.png)
But, but, you can't activate Ra with that team!  (I kid, I kid)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 29, 2015, 07:43:03 PM
A few hours ago i probably came the closest i've ever been to literally throw my phone to the ground....

I was already in a bad mood due to a shitty day at work and literally wasting over 100 stam because i didn't have the time to finish Kanetsugu Mythical (that i started this morning hoping to rank up) during the entire day.
I finally finish it and then i decided to clear a bit of Dragon Challenge, specifically Threedia and Diagoldos.

Long story short: i got fucked up BOTH times because my phone independently decided i stopped touching the screen while comboing. Of course this happened exactly 2 times in the last 24h, against 2 final bosses.

So i just wasted around 250 stamina, and in 3 hours i'll have Tamadra Retreat.....


To the demented touchscreen, bad luck, random voodoo curse, whatever the hell caused this week-long streak of rage (Verche starting well with 0/7 and yes, i'm STILL at zero skillup on Hera-Ur, reaching an hilarious 0/21): sincerely, FUCK YOU AND FUCK OFF PLEASE.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 29, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/SVUvqcRl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/SVUvqcR.jpg)

Kanetsugu.

Kanetsugu please.

Stop.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 29, 2015, 11:53:24 PM
My little side project is done.

IN Lunatic 1LC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgRppec4Sqo)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 30, 2015, 01:15:15 AM
My little side project is done.

IN Lunatic 1LC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgRppec4Sqo)
This is glorious.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: O4rfish on June 30, 2015, 01:52:06 AM
>"didn't do as much with it as I could have"
>18 combo lethality

also Kaguya's music was nice
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 30, 2015, 02:17:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3qMnFL0.jpg)

yep. this challenge dungeon can go right the fuck off. glad I'm done with it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 30, 2015, 02:23:07 AM
wait how the fuck did i beat dialgos before this is impossible without stupid luck

sonia grand was so easy in comparison holy shit i cleared it again in my sleep
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 30, 2015, 02:26:10 AM
wait how the fuck did i beat dialgos before this is impossible without stupid luck

diagoldos is only hard for you because of blue shieldras wave

 :matsuriscowl:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 30, 2015, 02:32:25 AM
for some reason every time I've gotten past them, I've gotten extremely terrible orbs during the final boss and either couldn't stall or couldnt burst
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 30, 2015, 04:17:49 AM
>"didn't do as much with it as I could have"
>18 combo lethality

Not like I knew those 11 extra skyfalls were going to happen!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on June 30, 2015, 05:06:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8qrauDg.jpg)

THERE.  YOU'RE MINE.  Freaking dubrubylit was annoying as heeeeeck to get a hold of since I was a dunce and forgot to really grind out Friday.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 30, 2015, 06:09:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EUGr9uB.png)

pull 2 GFEs of a GFE i've never owned before in 1 godfest within the first 10 pulls

and also i have a lakshmi

:getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on June 30, 2015, 07:32:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EUGr9uB.png)

pull 2 GFEs of a GFE i've never owned before in 1 godfest within the first 10 pulls

and also i have a lakshmi

:getdown:

Wait... did you seriously just changed your avie to GZL and then proceed to pull him in the godfes?
Quote from 2014 October
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 30, 2015, 08:10:38 AM
hey let's buy a 30 pack because paycheck

I had five stones before so let's go go go
1) Duplicate Suzaku! I'm okay with this.
2) Chiyome! I can run my Yamato Takeru team much more effectively.
3) gold egg Ifrit. Okay. Could be better.
4) duplicate Gryps Rider. I'll uvo this and max level it out for the skillup.
5) duplicate Neptune. Might use to uvo skillup my first Neptune.
6) Dragon Rider! If I skill him up, he might go on Purin's team. Or even Attackerasu or Ariel. LFagan?
7) gold egg Verche. :V

7/7 gold egg rate, though.

Edit: so why do the Sachi bros only need three skillups? I was hoping to get more mileage out of Twin Dragons but U&Y are already skill level 3/4 now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Calamity on June 30, 2015, 10:18:25 AM
Does anyone here have experience running an ult dmeta team? How  often is she used and what subs should I look for? I googled teams for her and only really old stuff comes up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on June 30, 2015, 10:34:17 AM
Does anyone here have experience running an ult dmeta team? How  often is she used and what subs should I look for? I googled teams for her and only really old stuff comes up.

i used to use her to run stuff now i only run her to farm twinlits

:ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 30, 2015, 11:04:48 AM
Decided to yoloroll for Minerva or Typhon or Gadius.

>Angel


...yeah that was dumb. But it is what it is. I'm not whaling anymore. I've realized how utterly foolish it is to throw money at this game and I regret dumping as much into it as I have. So I'm out. It just doesn't feel rewarding to use money to win at a game of skill and I've been feeling way better about myself throughout this year of avoiding it and I've improved substantially skillwise as well, and I've always ended up irritated at myself for breaking my no-spending rule I made at the beginning of the year. So no more.

(This, of course, goes out the window if we get FF collab. Priorities.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 30, 2015, 04:08:02 PM
(This, of course, goes out the window if we get FF collab. Priorities.)
*take screenshot* Now we have proof.....  :matsurismirk:
Although i totally agree with you on the FF collab (and i would add the DB collab as exception too)

First 2 rolls on NA:

- Rei Sirius (remember kids, active Gala DON'T affect GF rates!  ::))
- Vampire.......  :fail: (didn't even get a skillup out of it)

EDIT: yolorolled 1 in JP for day 1 (keeping the rest for day 2)  --> Dark Dragon Swordsman (see note about Rei Sirius  :colonveeplusalpha:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 30, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Figured I hadn't treated myself enough lately, bought 30 stones, used two pulls.

1) Zuoh (!)
2) Rei Sirius (dupe)

Unsure if I'm throwing any at day 2; might throw one at the academy REM before it goes away, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 30, 2015, 05:36:32 PM
Um how do you guys use U&Y bros? I accidentally skillmaxed them without getting any red pirates.

I'm thinking D/L Fagan would be a great sub; he provides massive HP and ATK with doubledongers to boot. He also covers those two weird colors.

Because the bros don't have any time extensions, I'm also considering Wee Jas as both a cleric, time extender, and delay in one package.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 30, 2015, 06:29:16 PM
I've been thinking about that for a while too. Ultimately I think I don't use them because I'd rather have a mountain of Kalis. The lack of extends is scary. I have tons of great subs for them and I could probably just dump all of my hypermax guys on the team with them for a ton of bonus stats and healer synergy, but... Eh.

I might finish them eventually just to give them a try, but for now they're low priority. Maybe that's a mistake.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on June 30, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Um how do you guys use U&Y bros?

(http://i.imgur.com/DL89seI.png)

<rdj> for some reason that didn't work when hotlinked
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 30, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
U&Y is a killer Skuld sub, it's true.

I think I'm the only person here who has a go-to U&Y team maybe.  The goal is basically to stack blue TPA and orb changes while also meeting the four-color criteria.  I run either:

U&Y/U&Y/Blodin/Blodin/Reine/U&Y

or something like

U&Y/Blodin/Blodin/DMeta/LMeta/U&Y or whatever, if I'm worried about binds.

He has a surprising array of useful subs, including several farmables like Blue Vamp, Midgard, and Hera-Elsa, but his best stuff is all REM unsurprisingly (like a lot of blue healer stuff which I don't have; blue healer U&Y is stupidly strong).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on June 30, 2015, 08:54:39 PM
I could do something along the lines of UY/Reine/Sun Quan/Susano/BKali/UY.

Orochi could go on for more blue prongs, Muse for being worse than Sun Quan, Lmeta or Wee Jas for bind mitigation, Dmeta for a faster shield, or even Godin for more bluk if I just assume damage is good enough. Almost too many sub options, damn.

I might even consider Bodin friend lead to get tons of health. Not sure when I would bother to run that team over Ra, but I might finish my UY just because fuck it, most of the subs are things I use already on other teams.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on June 30, 2015, 09:11:24 PM
I think I'm the only person here who has a go-to U&Y team maybe.  The goal is basically to stack blue TPA and orb changes while also meeting the four-color criteria.  I run either:

I actually have a team sitting around of like U&Y/Reine/Elize/Orochi/Flex

I just don't use it because fuck four-color leads.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on June 30, 2015, 10:16:33 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping U&Y gets a durga-esque ult that's 4-or-hearts.  Would be much more usable then; it would also open up his sub pool tremendously.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: hyorinryu on June 30, 2015, 10:31:37 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping U&Y gets a durga-esque ult that's 4-or-hearts.  Would be much more usable then; it would also open up his sub pool tremendously.

I dunno. I think additional tankiness would be better. Tbh, I haven't seen too many people use Durga since she got her ult.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 30, 2015, 10:43:45 PM
Durga seems like she's in an odd spot. Her attack is highest, but she doesn't have enough offensive awoken skills to fully capitalize on it - Kirin compensates by having a higher multiplier and all them orb enhances.

That active skill is sweet, but Durga's RCV is really on the low end to make up your HP.

What does she need? A stronger multiplier? A more durable leader skills? Quadruple TPAs? It just doesn't seem like an -easy- leader skill is what she needs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on June 30, 2015, 11:03:04 PM
The active is where Durga shines. However, you could totes make her a Kali sub if you have her and have x2 God/Devil on x36, so! (Or Awoken Ra.)

That's kind of why I scrapped my idea of making her a lead when Kali's kind of amazing right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 30, 2015, 11:16:39 PM
Kali dumps on all of them anyways :V Best leader skill, best awakenings, best active, best art :V

meanwhile apparently x16 isnt enough to kill fucking moltdras, especially when you get 3 ON ONE TURN TIMERS

RIP 99 stamina >___>


oh yeah i'd iap for karin except my credit card got locked because they thought my academy iap was suspicious

it's probably for the best anyways fuck you gunghoooo

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Aoshi-shi on June 30, 2015, 11:32:51 PM
Blew all my stones for today's Fest:

1. Kurone
2. Lemon Dragon (Evo'd, so that's alright I guess)
3. Sylph
4. Venus (!!)
5. Dragon Samurai
6. Siren
7. Sakuya (!!!!)

Not the Chinagirl I was after but I'll take it! I'm not really sure how to play with her, so I guess I should look up some team building guides and such.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on June 30, 2015, 11:39:10 PM
Ok i'm probably done with the NA part of this godfest. Last rolls were a rollercoaster and Meimei unfortunately is still a dream:

- CERES!!  :*
- Dark Golem  :colonveeplusalpha:
- BLUE ODIN!!!!! ODIN TRIO COMPLETE!  :toot:

and then there was the last roll......

I - I really don't know how to say it without crushing the soul of a certain someone in this thread so i'll simply give 2 hints:

1) she's a dupe

2) SUIKAMA
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on June 30, 2015, 11:45:31 PM
seriously fuck this game :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on July 01, 2015, 12:22:05 AM
Goodbye wallet, hello Verdandi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 12:26:25 AM
It JUST occurred to me that I can just drop a stone or two to clear Dragon Rush in the challenge. I should probably do that, I think two snowglobes is worth a stone or two to me (especially since I'll get a stone back for clearing everything). One should be enough to get me past Threedia. I hope?

Blew all my stones for today's Fest:

1. Kurone
2. Lemon Dragon (Evo'd, so that's alright I guess)
3. Sylph
4. Venus (!!)
5. Dragon Samurai
6. Siren
7. Sakuya (!!!!)

Not the Chinagirl I was after but I'll take it! I'm not really sure how to play with her, so I guess I should look up some team building guides and such.

Huh, you got both of the on-gala pantheon gods. Neat. I almost want to roll for Venus, but I've been wasting too many stones on REMs lately anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 01, 2015, 12:32:30 AM
uh you cant continue in challenges lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 12:41:42 AM
uh you cant continue in challenges lol

Oh nooooooo :o nevermind. It's never come up before. I kind of forget you can continue at all, usually. Disregard.

Edit: Shit, and I was like seconds away from going in, too. Good thing you said that and good thing I read it right away. I mean, I guess it's possibly I would've won, but... Not really.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 01, 2015, 01:32:31 AM
http://pad.gungho.jp/maintenance/pad/pua59k0000003eli.html

someone in kanagawa prefecture got arrested for selling application which edits BIN file and communicates with GungHo servers to cheat the system into giving people free shit

dont do this guys
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 01, 2015, 03:15:00 AM
Hm, I need to make Tengu huge to tackle Defoud and the rush, but I'm too impatient with Canopus' fodder drops. There must be a dungeon with pengdra and king dragons in it somewhere I can try!

...
...

(http://i.imgur.com/clUYIGJl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/clUYIGJ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/tFS5Emzl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/tFS5Emz.jpg)

Unsure if that was actually better exp-wise, but at least that's one part of the challenge down.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 01, 2015, 04:19:17 AM
diagolos down

the secret to pad

1. get lucky

2. dont get unlucky

3. use isis everyone else sux
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 01, 2015, 04:52:04 AM
It JUST occurred to me that I can just drop a stone or two to clear Dragon Rush in the challenge. I should probably do that, I think two snowglobes is worth a stone or two to me (especially since I'll get a stone back for clearing everything). One should be enough to get me past Threedia. I hope?

(http://i.imgur.com/tVaNRnT.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on July 01, 2015, 05:31:55 AM
Greek 2.0 confirmed for next set of Ultimates, just secondary ults, so I'm assuming they'll get silly awakenings :v

tri skill boost hermes plz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 01, 2015, 05:50:49 AM
Please be good :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on July 01, 2015, 06:15:53 AM
This purple challenge dungeon is bringing back those horrifying memories of throwing my head against devil rush with moonstet again and again.
5 tries at lv9 and still trying. I keep trying to kill Drall in one hit and he keeps surviving in one hit. I read other people's clears and they usually stall on it which I have no idea how they do it when drall gives you like 10 red orbs every turn turning all your hearts away.

This would be so much simpler if Nordis didn't bind dark so I can bring Elize. I got to Nordis once but couldn't deal enough damage because Elize is binded. I bring Verdandi instead and I can't kill Drall. halp

Also tried lv10 out of frustration, reached wave 4/5, Thief was 1 turn away from being up so I couldn't just press liu bei and kill Athena because 25k pre-empt goemon and so I dide. damnnnitttttt
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 01, 2015, 06:40:43 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIzygP9UAAA2CNg.png)

pulled blodin and sumire back to back in the bathroom

top lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 01, 2015, 07:06:01 AM
Pulled for day 2 with stones I scrounged up.

>dupe Cursed Dragon, no skillup

Yay, two completely worthless rolls. Guess there's no reward in pulling without wasting copious amounts of money.

... And now to scramble around and rebuild before the inevitable star vault.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 01, 2015, 07:20:45 AM
I just yolo'd a 6*!!!! ...sort of.

(http://i.imgur.com/f3mfQFt.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 01, 2015, 07:34:11 AM
That's who I was trying to get ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 01, 2015, 07:35:42 AM
That's who I was trying to get ;_;

ill gladly trade you peppy death goddess lady for gurren lagann dragon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on July 01, 2015, 08:53:39 AM
I just yolo'd a 6*!!!! ...sort of.

(http://i.imgur.com/f3mfQFt.png)

The leader of love (and death), you evolved her right away?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 01, 2015, 09:24:55 AM
Sometimes they drop in their evolved form. Happened to me once.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 01, 2015, 09:28:27 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/616167270125932544

New version of latent awakenings.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on July 01, 2015, 10:41:42 AM
Decided to yoloroll with just 8 stones:

Got a Sun Wukong, not long after I rolled a sun wukong from the PAD Academy REM.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on July 01, 2015, 11:40:33 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/616167270125932544

New version of latent awakenings.
Wait so how is this gonna work, assuming info was given?  (For those of us who don't read moonrunes)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 01, 2015, 12:20:36 PM
Wait so how is this gonna work, assuming info was given?  (For those of us who don't read moonrunes)

No info yet, will arrive Mid-July and TARGET implementation date is end of July.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 12:33:13 PM
Oh no, evo mats rotation incoming. I'm not ready yet! I need one more Verdandi, two more white Kali, and one more black Kali skillup  At least I can do Orochi, but I don't really give a that much of a shit about Orochi and I can't use green masks for much, so my incentive is low.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 01, 2015, 02:46:00 PM
time extends? who needs those anyway

(http://i.imgur.com/eMRVMiG.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 02:51:19 PM
time extends? who needs those anyway

I do... 😓
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 01, 2015, 05:52:38 PM
Good news: I know I can beat Defoud with the Luci setup I have going.

Bad news: rip 99 stamina because of a flubbed match that was entirely my fault. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on July 01, 2015, 06:22:55 PM
Bluhh.  Getting Verdandi kinda has me spoiled for choice.

Awoken Bastet potential subs now include:

A. Parvati (excellent active/awakenings/stats, very hard sell to swap her out)
G/R Liu Bei (triple TPA chainsaw murderer, blow-your-house-down active)
Perseus (Hero active is too good, but maybe a little less synergy on teams with multiple G/R?)
A. Meimei (excellent active/awakening/stats, she's just... not in PAD US yet)
Michael (would need to skill/level him up, but holy shit his active works well with Meimei's; awakenings kinda suck though)
GZL (Worth using if running Liu Bei/Meimei/Michael, maybe?  Otherwise...)
Green Wee Jas (a lot of stuff doesn't resist delay these days, double Extend Time is great, but not really worth using unless I can skill him up)
Verdandi (It's Verdandi)

Few others like Sasuke/Artemis/Kano etc, but not really worth considering.

Prior to landing Verdandi I was going to go with Bastet/Liu Bei/Parvati/Meimei/Perseus/Bastet, which seems fantastic on paper, but Verdandi's just so good... hrlhfglh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 06:33:51 PM
I run Verdandi/Liu Bei/Cu Chu/GZL/Susano/Verdandi. I'd say you have to run Liu Bei obviously, but aside from that it's not so clear. I might avoid Meimei and more Verdandis because two board changes are a lot of board changes already.

I haven't been able to get Verdandi to output truly great damage, so unless your skillz are significantly sharper than mine (entirely possible) you may want a damage enhance. GZL sounds like the best one you've got to me, so you probably want to pack him. And if that's the case, you'll want more attackers. Michael or Sasuke would both be pretty decent, probably. I'd lean Sasuke because he has a prong.

So as someone who uses Verdandi as my tertiary team, I would run this with your stuff: Verdandi/Liu Bei/GZL/Sasuke/Parvati/Verdandi.

Edit: Never mind, I read it real bad  DISREGARD.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on July 01, 2015, 08:47:51 PM
Bluhh.  Getting Verdandi kinda has me spoiled for choice.

Awoken Bastet potential subs now include:

A. Parvati (excellent active/awakenings/stats, very hard sell to swap her out)
G/R Liu Bei (triple TPA chainsaw murderer, blow-your-house-down active)
Perseus (Hero active is too good, but maybe a little less synergy on teams with multiple G/R?)
A. Meimei (excellent active/awakening/stats, she's just... not in PAD US yet)
Michael (would need to skill/level him up, but holy shit his active works well with Meimei's; awakenings kinda suck though)
GZL (Worth using if running Liu Bei/Meimei/Michael, maybe?  Otherwise...)
Green Wee Jas (a lot of stuff doesn't resist delay these days, double Extend Time is great, but not really worth using unless I can skill him up)
Verdandi (It's Verdandi)

Few others like Sasuke/Artemis/Kano etc, but not really worth considering.

Prior to landing Verdandi I was going to go with Bastet/Liu Bei/Parvati/Meimei/Perseus/Bastet, which seems fantastic on paper, but Verdandi's just so good... hrlhfglh.

Sasuke's definitely worth considering since he's a 5cd orb changer. I'd say swap Parvati or Sasuke depending on the dungeon, only one 5cd orb changer should be enough anyways.

GZL and Wee Jas are kinda too slow, you don't need the enhance from GZL for almost every case (if you do need enhance, Shotel is infinitely better but you gotta pull her first welp), Wee Jas can be situationally good though, just keep that in mind.

If you use Meimei then do Michael, if you use Verdandi then use Perseus seems to be the more logical choice, definitely go Perseus if you need SBR for something.

Liu Bei is a given.

In general, I'd say use Bastet/ (Parvati/Sasuke), (Meimei/Verdandi), (Perseus,Michael), Liu Bei / Bastet

Do you have any shield choices like kushi or susanoo (or even Indra)? You'd definitely need something like that for some dungeons.
I don't believe there's a template party for bastet and gungho's newer dungeon designs really force you to think outside the box sometimes,  so just keep your options in mind and change accordingly.

Are you aware trance wrote a comprehensive guide on A. Bastet on reddit?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on July 01, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
Used all my stones in the JP Godfest.....

- Mystic Flame Knight
- Shaitan
- Naga
- GrimRock
- LKali
- Toyceratops

....it WAS a godfest right? You could have fooled me.... This is by far my worst GF streak and no, getting LKali doesn't makes up for the rest.

No game, not even getting a Jewel of Light AND a Jewel of Wood with 2 Pal rolls makes up for it.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on July 01, 2015, 08:59:04 PM
Guides are for suckers :V

I don't have any even remotely viable shield options - no kushi, no indra, no susanoo, no ganesha, etc.  I don't even have an Asgard leveled up, though I suppose it wouldn't be difficult.  My go-to option for something that requires a specific HP breakpoint is sadly going to be "welp, time for another team".

In short, my fucking kingdom for a Thief.  ;_;  Evasion pls.

I actually do remember Trance writing that guide but I don't think I ever saw it.  Got a link?

getting LKali doesn't makes up for the rest

Sure it does!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
Isn't Medjed borderline viable as a shield? His awakenings are non-zero and he reduces by 50%, so that should just about always do it. Lack of a skillboost and shitty descend cooldown suck, but he should get the job done.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on July 01, 2015, 09:23:02 PM
Sure it does!

nope.avi

Let me wallow in selfpity for a bit, those were 30 stones for ONE good card..... then the fact that the card in question is Kali will kick in and makes me feel better  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 01, 2015, 10:08:03 PM
Isn't Medjed borderline viable as a shield? His awakenings are non-zero and he reduces by 50%, so that should just about always do it. Lack of a skillboost and shitty descend cooldown suck, but he should get the job done.

I use him and he is definitely kicking his fair share of asses. The funny part is that he works on Verdandi or Bastet because they're both Balanced now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on July 01, 2015, 10:20:00 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-elxfY5yqkr8/VZRnF8oIFBI/AAAAAAAABtY/IX9RBVNSud8/w428-h685-no/15%2B-%2B1)

jp really likes giving me 6* gfes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 01, 2015, 10:22:29 PM
Time to eat. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU4dEFQuDKc)

(http://i.imgur.com/qFHd8SAl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/qFHd8SA.jpg)

I was actually really scared there because after that inferno, I had few enough hearts + got few enough combos that Photon Breath would have been death. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on July 01, 2015, 10:26:03 PM
In short, my fucking kingdom for a Thief.  ;_;  Evasion pls.

I actually do remember Trance writing that guide but I don't think I ever saw it.  Got a link?

Thief gud. too bad he's Devil AND Dark which makes him a bind target magnet, but they only give him 50% bind resist.
http://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/wiki/guides/leaders/awokenbastet <-link
Medjed is a bit slow without skilling up, and skilling up descend bosses DO take some effort, Asgard is bulky which is nice.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-elxfY5yqkr8/VZRnF8oIFBI/AAAAAAAABtY/IX9RBVNSud8/w428-h685-no/15%2B-%2B1)

jp really likes giving me 6* gfes

Just when I thought trance's rolls were op enough already.
What's with you people and your op gfe rolls D:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 10:33:47 PM
I think I already know the answer to this, but just to check: Does color absorb only matter for attack damage, or does it also include active damage. What I'm asking specifically is, can Ra kill white Shieldras with his active?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on July 01, 2015, 10:58:18 PM
Solar Lazer explicitly ignores element and defense, so it'll blow up light shieldras.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 01, 2015, 11:03:32 PM
Okay, so "ignores element" equates "non-elemental"? Fair enough. But by that I gather that an explicitly colored source of non-attacking damage would get absorbed?

It didn't end up mattering, I was thinking for some reason that the second floor of Cauchemar was two small white Shieldras and a big one, but it's a demon instead. I just killed him and stalled up on the little ones and cleared the dungeon without any particular trouble. But good to know anyway for later. Thanks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on July 01, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Hell yes Finally no-stoned lv9. I hate Nordis.

(http://i.imgur.com/fJJpSr2.jpg)

Took 7 tries, I could've gotten way more than +30 eggs with those stamina.

It was the luckiest run, I had 12 green when I activated Verdandi, 16 greens when I activated Liu bei, then 12 greens when I used Sasuke.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on July 02, 2015, 12:51:57 AM
Hell yes Finally no-stoned lv9. I hate Nordis.

(http://i.imgur.com/fJJpSr2.jpg)

Took 7 tries, I could've gotten way more than +30 eggs with those stamina.

It was the luckiest run, I had 12 green when I activated Verdandi, 16 greens when I activated Liu bei, then 12 greens when I used Sasuke.
Looking at your screen, is that one of those weirdo levelup dungeons?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on July 02, 2015, 01:17:11 AM
Looking at your screen, is that one of those weirdo levelup dungeons?

Yup, the latest challenge dungeon in JP is legend mode, aka weirdo levelup system.

Lv9 pits you against stuff like Dark Fagan, Drall from Diagoldos, and of course Nordis with his immense 8.5mil hp (17mil for green/light teams).
Lv10 have you face off Satan with your team at lv1 straight off wave 1. Then Straitos, Beelzebub, Athena, and Awoken Goemon. This lineup would've made it the easiest lv10 ever if not for legend mode :v

Basically, it's annoying and you have no idea how much your team will deal or how much you can heal because your stats are all over the place.
Part of the reason lv9 took me so many tries is I basically found out how many TPAs I need to kill this or kill that by trial and error.

Time for lv10! welp
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 02, 2015, 03:47:48 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-elxfY5yqkr8/VZRnF8oIFBI/AAAAAAAABtY/IX9RBVNSud8/w428-h685-no/15%2B-%2B1)

jp really likes giving me 6* gfes

Can i fucking strangle you okay thanks

Also I streamed yesterday

I was running the new technical Pii dungeon for a while (http://www.twitch.tv/trancehime/v/6801084?t=28m55s)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 02, 2015, 04:14:31 AM
Things I didn't expect to have to do, but was glad for the opportunity:

(http://i.imgur.com/zyMgLmXl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/zyMgLmX.jpg)

Sadly I was really bad at the game and somehow failed to match hearts after a future Chomp. With my luck I'm going to get Niflheim or Yggdrasill next time I attempt and just flush that stamina down the drain. orz.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 02, 2015, 04:31:45 AM
Not gonna lie, but one of the biggest reasons I'm raising awoken Ra once he gets here is that he utterly trivializes Fatty. I could do rushes without having to worry :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 02, 2015, 04:33:56 AM
Not gonna lie, but one of the biggest reasons I'm raising awoken Ra once he gets here is that he utterly trivializes Fatty. I could do rushes without having to worry :ohdear:

push button, kill fatty! also if the wave after him has no pre-emptive your 3s time extend carries over which is a plus... I don't think this is the case in any dungeon where fatty exists though (either the wave after him has a pre-emptive or he IS the boss wave)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 02, 2015, 04:36:30 AM
Not gonna lie, but one of the biggest reasons I'm raising awoken Ra once he gets here is that he utterly trivializes Fatty. I could do rushes without having to worry :ohdear:

Yeah, if we had Z&H here I'd be able to throw Abyss Neptune or something into the team and still have two gravities to punch stuff with (this would actually make Threedia a little easier since as it stands, I have to combo away ~100k after dropping all actives). Since we don't, though, I need to watch my hearts and apparently make them with a counterintuitive active when needed. :V

I just don't want to get walled by wave 1 when I have enough stamina next time (at least with Yggdrasill, being able to use Neptune would be a huge help there too).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on July 02, 2015, 05:48:59 AM
Maaan, I'm terrible at phone!PAD.  Just spent SEVENTY SIX turns to down Cauchemar.  On Legend of all things.

Jerk didn't even have the decency to drop for me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on July 02, 2015, 07:04:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/4Hpl815.png)(http://i.imgur.com/a8BwJuL.png)

Whoa. Despite lv9 being the worst trauma ever, lv10 was much less stressful. Only took 2 tries to no-stone clear!
While starting from lv1 is almost the stupidest thing ever, at least it's less stupid than wave 1 DQ Hera.

This is the first set of challenge dungeon where I no-stoned and finished all levels :D!!

Also I'm proud of that puzzle on Athena :v it'd look even better if I had 15 greens, or if I had just 12 green and the top-middle 6 orbs were all light?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 02, 2015, 09:46:08 AM
https://www.facebook.com/notes/puzzle-dragons-north-america-gungho/shinrabansho-choco-collab-returns/1095418677153390?id=484776928217571

waffles return
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 02, 2015, 10:01:48 AM
Data downloaded for all SB2 stuff and Fire Cat Dragon.

Time to DO OR DIDE, Chaore.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 02, 2015, 10:20:02 AM
DISREGARD EVERYTHING STILL UP ASTAROTH
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 02, 2015, 10:20:36 AM
For those unfamiliar with the REM golds:

Sacred Dragon King Saiga, Another - The only version of Saiga anyone should care about. Two TPAs, unbindable, double-orb changer to Athena colors (Got the buff so now is 12->7 CD) and is a God type. Borderline-OP stats for his very low cost.

War Princess Asmodeus, Another - Literally makes a Durga/DKali board. Has excellent RCV and very good awakenings if you plan to run her in a Durga team (since Durga herself has no SBR). TPA helps too.

Fire Hammer Kiriko, Another - Magical girl! Seems she was made with Gadius in mind. If you don't have him, she makes a pretty good R/L Norn-type lead. Since she has a row and a TPA, you can build a pretty flexible Mono-red team with her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 02, 2015, 10:36:05 AM
Dunno if I'll roll. The silver eggs seem meh at best and it's probably not worth the risk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 02, 2015, 10:41:01 AM
Dunno if I'll roll. The silver eggs seem meh at best and it's probably not worth the risk.

the silver eggs are pretty meh, except maybe SSG Apollo as some ghetto-ass low-cost Leader.

as a general thing, don't really bother with collab REMs unless you IAP or unless you hate yourself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 02, 2015, 10:46:26 AM
I promised myself that the only thing that could make me IAP now is FF collab, where I'll shamelessly go nuts. Otherwise it just ain't worth wasting money that could be spent more productively.

Also holy shit this dungeon gives so much exp. I'll be ranking up like crazy while collecting kaguyas, which drop fully evo'd on her own floor.  It's like the game is apologizing for the 1/35ish I ran on Astaroth last time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 02, 2015, 12:06:56 PM
alright you big cheater LET'S GO

(http://i.imgur.com/b6D9DZf.png) (http://i.imgur.com/cf8CGsd.png) (http://i.imgur.com/knzsFbQ.png)

That's every single rush 0-stoned until Yamato Rush comes around. Shame about stalling on Beorc and Sowilo killing my combo score though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Dorakyura on July 02, 2015, 12:29:44 PM
That's every single rush 0-stoned until Yamato Rush comes around. Shame about stalling on Beorc and Sowilo killing my combo score though.

Now go S-Rank them :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 02, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Now go S-Rank them :V

im too scrub for that, i gotta stall in places for setups
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 02, 2015, 12:35:56 PM
As if everypne but me didn't know this already, as a reminder, don't PAD right out of a dead sleep. I jyst wasted 99 stamina within moments of waking up with a Hera Rush team I thought of in a dream that made no sense and was founded on the assumption that Awoken Neptune has three skillboosts. I didn't even bother to check.😑

Actually my last 24 hours have been kind of a bust. Died on Cauchemar a few times (although I did eventually clear him which was at least something), ranked up and failed to use enough stamina before going to bed so it was overflowing by morning, then this.

I got two choices. Either retreat, or charge in to Hera Rush again later with a slightly less stupid plan to try to save face. Hmm...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 02, 2015, 12:40:04 PM
a dream that made no sense and was founded on the assumption that Awoken Neptune has three skillboosts.

i want what you're smoking because this sounds like a fun version of pad
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 02, 2015, 01:32:13 PM
what do you mean threedia only attacks once before hitting for 20k

goddammit :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on July 02, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
Why the hell the JP client refuse to let me run Friday Dungeon Expert?

It gives me a yellow message that i've never seen..... i've tried some normal and technical and they run fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on July 02, 2015, 03:02:44 PM
Why the hell the JP client refuse to let me run Friday Dungeon Expert?

It gives me a yellow message that i've never seen..... i've tried some normal and technical and they run fine.

Screenshot the error?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on July 02, 2015, 03:15:05 PM
Screenshot the error?

Now i got in -_-

If it happens again i'll take the shot
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 02, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UiU5wZh.jpg)

There, validation for recent upfucks. Two down.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on July 02, 2015, 04:19:04 PM
Based on when you posted,
Now i got in -_-

If it happens again i'll take the shot

I'm pretty sure you tried to get into the dungeon before it was actually "on"; that can happen when your phone's time doesn't match Japan's.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on July 02, 2015, 05:34:01 PM
mercy, rem gods, how did i know this would happen

...it ends before otterkon too so i can't do the party game of 'pull until the rabbit cries'
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 02, 2015, 07:36:40 PM
GET BORED YEAH

(http://i.imgur.com/0FeWRHW.png) (http://i.imgur.com/ybm7Nhq.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Espadas on July 02, 2015, 10:34:51 PM
Where can i find the current skill-up rotation for JP? Can't read moonrunes  :blush:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Thaws on July 02, 2015, 11:01:37 PM
Where can i find the current skill-up rotation for JP? Can't read moonrunes  :blush:

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150616_youbi_skill.html
Twinlits: I think those are Illum and Zuoh
Trifruits: Sonias
Golden Keeper: Apocalypse
Masks: LZL/GZL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 02, 2015, 11:11:31 PM
wtf since when could you skill up GZL with green ancient masks
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on July 02, 2015, 11:32:07 PM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150616_youbi_skill.html
Twinlits: I think those are Illum and Zuoh
Trifruits: Sonias
Golden Keeper: Apocalypse
Masks: LZL/GZL
>GZL

/me tilts head in confusion

I guess if I ever decide to skill him that'll be useful, huh?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 02, 2015, 11:52:23 PM
Oh wow, when do we get that here? GZL skillups aren't imperative, but they are useful. Plus it gives me a use for green masks if I ever decide to farm for Orochi skillups.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 03, 2015, 10:26:02 AM
wtf since when could you skill up GZL with green ancient masks

It started right around the time Japan got the Cat Dragon dungeons since you could now skill up Nut and Osiris by doing Water and Earth Cat Dragons respectively (the devi-nya monsters, similar to the ladybugs)

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 03, 2015, 10:33:05 AM
Well, that certainly is a lot easier that waiting for and farming Zhao Yun for mini GZLs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 03, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
Since NA apparently got the data for Fire Cat Dragon, you can expect this skill rotation to come within this year. Maybe late July or August?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 03, 2015, 10:55:22 AM
Perhaps. Since Fire Cat's in, it'll likely be our next biweekly after Cold Steel (though why this dungeon is lasting so long is beyond me; Kamui's like really damned obsolete at this point unless you're super new and even then it's a stretch), and assuming the next logical step would be blue or green, end of next month sounds about right.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 03, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
Perhaps. Since Fire Cat's in, it'll likely be our next biweekly after Cold Steel (though why this dungeon is lasting so long is beyond me; Kamui's like really damned obsolete at this point unless you're super new and even then it's a stretch), and assuming the next logical step would be blue or green, end of next month sounds about right.

Survey Dungeons in JP normally last 2 weeks as well. And Kamui's not bad on teams such as Sarasvati.

If anything, it's just dumb why Kamui only got his survey dungeon now as opposed to way back earlier.

EDIT: Here's the order:

Red --> Green --> Blue --> Light --> Dark Cat Dragons.

Since JP just finished our cat dragons biweekly.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 03, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
Oh wow, I also didn't realize until just mow that Twinlits don't (or didn't, anyway) rotate any more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 03, 2015, 05:34:34 PM
They'll probably skill up Ilm and Zuoh next.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 03, 2015, 09:19:40 PM
oh hey andromeda can melt friday dungeon riiight?

>green dublits on floor 2

this fucking piece of shit game
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on July 03, 2015, 09:26:11 PM
oh hey andromeda can melt friday dungeon riiight?

>green dublits on floor 2

this fucking piece of shit game

with enough blue elements and two mass attacks, dublits are fine regardless of color

i don't even melt weak ones with pandora/takeru, just mass
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 03, 2015, 09:30:05 PM
i blew all my orbs on one turn and had none for the second, not even enough for a 3 match >___>

and then second try i die floor 1 GREAT ALL OF TODAY'S STAMINA GONE TO A GOOD CAUSE ITS NOT LIKE I NEED 20 DUBLITS OR ANYTHING
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on July 03, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
i blew all my orbs on one turn and had none for the second, not even enough for a 3 match >___>

and then second try i die floor 1 GREAT ALL OF TODAY'S STAMINA GONE TO A GOOD CAUSE ITS NOT LIKE I NEED 20 DUBLITS OR ANYTHING

i was about to ask how but

...are you using the same team that's on padherder?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 03, 2015, 10:51:51 PM
I have Isis in there for bind clears

The time I died to floor 1 though was because I said fuck it gonna dump in all my quick orb changers and I'm gonna blast everything to FUCK NOT ENOUGH SKILL BOOSTS


Meanwhile Isis still works fine as long as there's no floor 1 skyfalls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 03, 2015, 11:59:47 PM
If my pandora team can steamroll twinlits then your Andromeda team could do likewise.

The trick is:

Use a team with at least 10 water attributes with as many orb changers as possible (fast orb changers like Sieg/Reine/Kamui/Hatsume are great here)

match a row on floor 1, clearing everything.

Next floor, match 5 orbs for mass attacks twice, clears everything. Don't waste resources trying to break their defenses, it's not worth it.

Floor 3, try to do mass attacks consistently. 5 turns is more than enough; use Andromeda to unbind if needed.

Floor 4, just fuckin unload on them. An orb/type/attribute enhancer is great here.


My Twinlit team is Pandora/Haku/Hanzo/Vamp/DMeta, and it is foolproof. I have tested it dozens upon dozens of times.

Looking at your padherder, make yours Andromeda/Skuld/Reine/Nut or Kamui or Siegfried/Hera-Is or Wadatsumi. It's uh, really quite a bit better than my team since you have three hypermaxes there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 04, 2015, 12:12:26 AM
oh 10 water atts huh

I guess Kamui + Neptune gets me there

I only get two orb changes early on though so I still have a chance of orbtroll but I guess it looks stable
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2015, 12:16:45 AM
It is stable, but now that I think of it you need to run Kamui over Nut to have all 10 water elements. I forgot Nut doesn't have a subatt yet.

And yeah, you just need to survive 3 turns before both Andros are up, and two of those turns are ones you have changers on. Trust me when I say the chances of orbtrolling is very, very low. Use exactly six orbs on floor one, and two rounds of five on floor two. That's generally very doable as long as you're sure to combo as much as you can to get skyfalls and remove any risk of orbtrolling.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 12:22:38 AM
For what it's worth, I haven't seen a 2/2/2 second floor in Twinlits in many runs. There was a time when it seemed to be a ~10% chance, but it's probably been thirty or forty runs since I saw it. I don't know if that matters for your team at all, but it's the one thing that stops mine (well, aside from TREMENDOUS orbtrolling on a magnitude I've never seen where there are less than six combined blue orbs and hearts on floor one).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2015, 12:29:04 AM
I always seem to get 2/2/2 or 2/2/3, so being able to match 5 orbs consecutively is a must for me. Thankfully, I can handle that quite easily.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 12:44:07 AM
I had one day at the beginning of that last 2.5x skillup period where my second white Kali and my black Kali both got a ton of skillups (started at level one, ended at four and five respectively) and neither has budged an inch since. Damn goddesses, get your skillups so I can leave this dungeon forever and never look back. If I find myself in a position to max them both out at the same time with extra piis at some point I'll probably do it, I'm beyond bored of this. I could finish the black one right now, but then all of the devilits I drop while trying to finish the white one would be wasted, so I better not. And all my current Shynpys are earmarked for Ra.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2015, 12:54:37 AM
I'm two skillups away from maxing my LKali. It has been a long, slow process, but it shall be worth it when Awoken Ra comes out.

Strangely though, I'm much more inclined to hypermax Kali before Ra though, simply because she benefits more from having ATK due to her double TPAs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
Yeah, she would be strictly better, but I made the call to go with Ra because other people can use him too. If I did Kali she'd end up buried in my team where only I can use her. And hopefully my damage is stupid enough that the sub-optimal use of attack eggs doesn't matter that much.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2015, 01:27:36 AM
The other reason why I chose Kali is because she works great as a leader AND a sub while Ra is situational as a sub (read: Fatty). I'll probably egg him up or something after Kali but yeah >_o
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 04, 2015, 01:35:25 AM
Time to mop up the rest of the challenge for the stone later.

(http://i.imgur.com/hPxMEtFl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hPxMEtF.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/pjAaMoJl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/pjAaMoJ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/pu21Jqkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/pu21Jqk.jpg)

Wonder what I can use this extra Zaerog for...maybe one of the ults?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 04, 2015, 01:37:49 AM
rdj wins the most tenacious and patient player award
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2015, 01:44:32 AM
Last night I made a Hera Rush video with Awoken Bastet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0ckZSqutVE)

Time to mop up the rest of the challenge for the stone later.


Wonder what I can use this extra Zaerog for...maybe one of the ults?

congratulations
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 04, 2015, 01:55:59 AM
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YOU ARE SUPER PLAYER LEGEND PLUS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 02:31:22 AM
The other reason why I chose Kali is because she works great as a leader AND a sub while Ra is situational as a sub (read: Fatty). I'll probably egg him up or something after Kali but yeah >_o

What it comes down to for me is that almost all of my current hypermax stuff is hidden, so nobody can see it. I want to show off as much as I want to actually get utility out of my +eggs. :derp: :derp: :derp:

But yeah, can't see ever really using Ra as a sub. On the other hand, can't see ever using Kali as a leader again once I have him, so maybe it doesn't matter (aside from the obviously inefficient use of attack eggs)?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2015, 02:32:30 AM
But yeah, can't see ever really using Ra as a sub. On the other hand, can't see ever using Kali as a leader again once I have him, so maybe it doesn't matter (aside from the obviously inefficient use of attack eggs)?

LKali belongs as a sub in many color-match leads, whereas A.Ra only sees himself as a sub in King Carnival farming teams where you need at least 4 A.Ra.

It's more logically sound to plus egg LKali first before A.Ra, but either should be OK.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 04, 2015, 02:55:01 AM
Alright the strat works woo! :toot:


on the other hand angelits keep dropping of course
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 03:02:05 AM
LKali belongs as a sub in many color-match leads, whereas A.Ra only sees himself as a sub in King Carnival farming teams where you need at least 4 A.Ra.

It's more logically sound to plus egg LKali first before A.Ra, but either should be OK.

Right, I got that, but once you have Awoken Ra why use any other rainbow team? Kali could sub on any other rainbow, but I think I'm good on rainbow leads forever now. (Note: I mean that rhetorically, but like, barely.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2015, 04:18:47 AM
Right, I got that, but once you have Awoken Ra why use any other rainbow team? Kali could sub on any other rainbow, but I think I'm good on rainbow leads forever now. (Note: I mean that rhetorically, but like, barely.)

I could use Kirin for dungeons where I need gravity more than a true damage nuke
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 04:24:10 AM
Is Ra's active a big consideration when choosing him? A vast majority of my interest is in his leader skill. If that's the case then fair enough, can't argue that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on July 04, 2015, 04:43:52 AM
Got a few evos done that I'd been putting off this week so I feel sort of accomplished.

>Chiyome:  Base form -> ult
>SQ -> first evo(I don't wanna hunt blue fruuuuuuits...but BG's the only form worth making in my case so hunt I must.)
>Berserker Z -> evo'd

Alllllmost got Kagutsuchi evo'd the first time as well but I didn't grab enough flame keepers on Tuesday, though I can rectify this through Vermillionyt's stage so it's prob not a huge deal.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 04, 2015, 04:59:47 AM
Is Ra's active a big consideration when choosing him? A vast majority of my interest is in his leader skill. If that's the case then fair enough, can't argue that.

Like it was brought up before, gravities can push an enemy past a certain HP threshold -before- you attack, which is really significant for things like Sonia Gran and Kaguya, or nailing an enemy with a dark sub-attribute when they're still above 50%.

Also, LKali and DKali's 30 million HP. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2015, 05:02:09 AM
Is Ra's active a big consideration when choosing him? A vast majority of my interest is in his leader skill. If that's the case then fair enough, can't argue that.

I own both A.Ra and UUVO Kirin so yeah
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 04, 2015, 07:11:52 AM
rdj wins the most tenacious and patient player award

Looks like I have to regift it. (https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/3c2xzy/misc_it_only_took_two_weeks_but_i_did_it/)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2015, 07:12:35 AM
I can still see myself using LKali as a leader even after getting A.Ra if not only because she's easier to use for a higher multiplier. Do note that unless you're using an active, A.Ra's multiplier is 25x for 5 colors when Kali's is 25x for 4, and then 36x for a mere two combos more. Ra's multiplier is higher if you use an active, of course, but your damage will be far less consistent. She's also more compatible with subs like Sandalphon and Sun Quan (like for real, 72x for two turns with damage reduction or delay? That's pretty amazing).

In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2015, 07:44:59 AM
In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.

I think no one should really consider using A.Ra unless they had multiple LKalis anyway, otherwise it's too inconsistent.

I stopped using LKali because her damage output was too low for me in places where I needed it (x36 with only 1 light combo or 1 light tpa is very meh) and I stopped using A.Ra because I don't have a DKali to complement my 2 LKali subs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 04, 2015, 08:15:45 AM
I think people forget that, while LKali has that amazing active, doubledonger, and x36, her active is still just a board conversion; there will destroy definitely be times when you get just one TPA of light orbs.

Not that Kirin won't have the same issue, but she's far more compatible with Apollo (who makes metric tons of light orbs), Valkyrie, and such. Dark > Light and Heal > Light is a far better gig than Wood > Light - LKali doesn't share any typings with Fuma that would enhance them both.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2015, 08:20:03 AM
I think people forget that, while LKali has that amazing active, doubledonger, and x36, her active is still just a board conversion; there will destroy definitely be times when you get just one TPA of light orbs.

Not that Kirin won't have the same issue, but she's far more compatible with Apollo (who makes metric tons of light orbs), Valkyrie, and such. Dark > Light and Heal > Light is a far better gig than Wood > Light - LKali doesn't share any typings with Fuma that would enhance them both.

Kirin also has a bajillion Light Orb Enhance and her subs typically also have Light Orb Enhance and they add up rapidly, so in some cases Kirin actually outdamages LKali
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 04, 2015, 11:38:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/OifJyJ9.jpg)
Zheng Fei is pretty easy when you can use most of your team.

Not that I have an idea what this team is supposed to do but you know.

"Yes, let's go through the dungeon without actually using Neptune's enhance."

Actually I think the only active skill I used was Susano because Karin hits like a truck for no reason.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 12:49:47 PM
Hmm, good call on using gravity to bust sturdy on new bosses. Although two Sakuyas is enough to crack Kaguya but not Sonia, right? While that does make a lot of sense, I could see the huge variability in different multiplier levels on a Ra team being similarly useful much of the time. You could try to aim for a x25 or even a x12 and hopefull just crack sturdy with attack damage. Not always the right solution, and slightly uncontrollable, but it is an option.

I can still see myself using LKali as a leader even after getting A.Ra if not only because she's easier to use for a higher multiplier. Do note that unless you're using an active, A.Ra's multiplier is 25x for 5 colors when Kali's is 25x for 4, and then 36x for a mere two combos more. Ra's multiplier is higher if you use an active, of course, but your damage will be far less consistent. She's also more compatible with subs like Sandalphon and Sun Quan (like for real, 72x for two turns with damage reduction or delay? That's pretty amazing).

In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.

Fair points,, but you do have complete control over when Ra's leader skill is great or not. It's not like you'll often be in situations where you need the extra x2 but can't get it on demand.

Kali is more reliable of course, that's just math. My current Kali team has four Kali actives though, and I almost never find myself in situations where they're all off cooldown. My Ra team has the same number, and I imagine I'll have to use them slightly more to make sure I always have green as well, but I usually go out of my way to match green every turn with Kali just to see how much harder it is than four colors (often not much).

And of course I recognize that not everybody owns the optimal number and assortment of Kalis. I lucked into mine, and I wouldn't run Ra if I didn't have them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on July 04, 2015, 02:46:24 PM
Looks like I have to regift it. (https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/3c2xzy/misc_it_only_took_two_weeks_but_i_did_it/)
I...I don't even...  That's, uh...  what does one say to that?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 04, 2015, 02:55:56 PM
I...I don't even...  That's, uh...  what does one say to that?

there's being tenacious and then there's being dumb, they are not mutual
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2015, 03:18:58 PM
I think people forget that, while LKali has that amazing active, doubledonger, and x36, her active is still just a board conversion; there will destroy definitely be times when you get just one TPA of light orbs.

Not that Kirin won't have the same issue, but she's far more compatible with Apollo (who makes metric tons of light orbs), Valkyrie, and such. Dark > Light and Heal > Light is a far better gig than Wood > Light - LKali doesn't share any typings with Fuma that would enhance them both.

Coming from you, I'm kind of shocked. There is am enhance that boosts them both - -  it's just by type, but by attribute. It's Purin!



Anyway, Zhang Fei down. Stupid easy stone when the conditional requirements were loosened.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 04, 2015, 03:54:08 PM
Purin is all rows, tho. Chubby dog doesn't get Kirin's godboost, either. :c

I'll gladly take Purin's other awoken skills over Izanagi or Thor, though
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 04, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Yeah, man, I feel kind of bad about stomping Zhang Fei that bad. I'm conflicted about the change to restricted dungeons. I guess they're never that fun, so it's cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Suikama on July 04, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
I can still see myself using LKali as a leader even after getting A.Ra if not only because she's easier to use for a higher multiplier. Do note that unless you're using an active, A.Ra's multiplier is 25x for 5 colors when Kali's is 25x for 4, and then 36x for a mere two combos more. Ra's multiplier is higher if you use an active, of course, but your damage will be far less consistent. She's also more compatible with subs like Sandalphon and Sun Quan (like for real, 72x for two turns with damage reduction or delay? That's pretty amazing).

In other words, A.Ra's stronger for sure, but Kali's probably the most reliable 4-color lead in the game right now in terms of activation and damage.
Unless you have AIsis, which then allows you to hav an active up every turn BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Jq1790 on July 04, 2015, 04:17:40 PM
Yeah, man, I feel kind of bad about stomping Zhang Fei that bad. I'm conflicted about the change to restricted dungeons. I guess they're never that fun, so it's cool.
As annoying as the type conditionals were, I still also have a weird feeling about the loose requirements.  I mean, it's less anmoyimg, but it makes me feel like "why bother when the pools become this large now?" Oh well, Ill still tale advantage of em, hypcritical as it makes me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2015, 08:13:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/TOV9kyz.png)

just testin some LKali damage

i think she's p ok
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 04, 2015, 11:41:46 PM
But Regulus... I miss that guy.

I have 237 stamina from inactivity and only 12000 exp to rank up. What dungeon do I run ahhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Edible on July 05, 2015, 02:07:30 AM
King carnival?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 05, 2015, 03:18:39 AM
So I put together my potential future Awoken Anubis team. (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=2013.99.1.99.99.99.8..1736.99.1.99.99.99.7..2180.99.1.99.99.99.5..990.99.1.99.99.99.4..2076.99.1.99.99.99.8..2013.99.1.99.99.99.8)

It's got three orb changers, one board changer, a damage reducer, and a CTW.

9 seconds to match every turn.
100% skill bind immune.
3500 hp regained every turn.
Unbindable leaders, and potential for bind removal so long as Pandora is not bound (unlikely)
Lots of RCV but kinda low HP, could be made far more durable with two DIzanami instead of one.

Other potential subs include Ronia and Zaerog Infinity once we get him. Awoken Hades, too.

Good y/n?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 05, 2015, 03:52:31 AM
9 seconds to match every turn.

8 seconds. The default is 4.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 05, 2015, 04:03:11 AM
Oh. Okay, 8 seconds then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 05, 2015, 04:15:09 AM
8 seconds. The default is 4.

It is? Shit, I was sure it was five. Maybe somebody's been spreading misinformation, I think I've always heard five.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Chaore on July 05, 2015, 04:18:46 AM
not only has vulcan been a massive fucker to me all day, i accidentally continued and lost a stone to it

technical update when
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 05, 2015, 04:32:22 AM
It is? Shit, I was sure it was five. Maybe somebody's been spreading misinformation, I think I've always heard five.

An easy way to check is to manually count it out via your game.

This also means that if DFagan or Diza pop up and you're playing the hard life, your movement timer is dropped to just two seconds, the current lowest possible.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: commandercool on July 05, 2015, 04:39:41 AM
An easy way to check is to manually count it out via your game.

This also means that if DFagan or Diza pop up and you're playing the hard life, your movement timer is dropped to just two seconds, the current lowest possible.

Yes, sorry, I meant that somebody had misinformed me. I believe you. But for some reason I had that idea in my head and I'm sure I'm not the only person I've heard say that (well, and Matsuri just now).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 05, 2015, 04:47:58 AM
New thread being made, please say the "be patient" phrase from Touhou correctly because I forgot whether it was watch or wait.