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My first lunatic 1cc
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Lunatic_Reimu:

--- Quote from: Dreamleaf on April 20, 2019, 04:38:20 AM ---Thank you! I love how the better and more confident you get with the series the more it feels like the series opens up. Kind of feel like despite how much time I've dedicated to this series that I've still only just scratched the surface you know?

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Yes I definitely agree with you. The series will open up more to you, the more confident you get, the more you'll start feeling like certain goals are achievable and within your reach, which you wouldn't have thought possible before. When I experienced my first Lunatic run, it felt claustrophobic, not even comfortable being in the playing field, now it feels just like home :)

Ahh I understand that about feeling like you've barely scratched the surface. A lot of time and effort goes into clearing the games and hitting certain achievements (like No Bomb runs, Perfect Stage Practice, etc, and as noted, your first Lunatic 1cc :D), and with so many Touhou games, it could feel overwhelming. But keep at it, you sound like you've got quite a drive and motivation for it, so good things will come your way if you keep trying.

As a side note: Spend time reading pages in the Touhouwiki, like character profiles and locations. You will get more immersed with the games finding out more things about the characters and the stages you're traversing through ;) Backstory about these things is interesting and breathes more life into the series :)

Wishing you the best of luck with your future endeavours ;) Keep it up :)
Dreamleaf:

--- Quote from: Lunatic_Reimu on April 20, 2019, 11:21:37 AM ---Yes I definitely agree with you. The series will open up more to you, the more confident you get, the more you'll start feeling like certain goals are achievable and within your reach, which you wouldn't have thought possible before. When I experienced my first Lunatic run, it felt claustrophobic, not even comfortable being in the playing field, now it feels just like home :)

Ahh I understand that about feeling like you've barely scratched the surface. A lot of time and effort goes into clearing the games and hitting certain achievements (like No Bomb runs, Perfect Stage Practice, etc, and as noted, your first Lunatic 1cc :D), and with so many Touhou games, it could feel overwhelming. But keep at it, you sound like you've got quite a drive and motivation for it, so good things will come your way if you keep trying.

As a side note: Spend time reading pages in the Touhouwiki, like character profiles and locations. You will get more immersed with the games finding out more things about the characters and the stages you're traversing through ;) Backstory about these things is interesting and breathes more life into the series :)

Wishing you the best of luck with your future endeavours ;) Keep it up :)

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I spend a great deal of time reading up on the wiki as well as the Touhou TV tropes page. It really does add a lot more to the experience to try to take in the story, characters and lore more. I even bought the entire Forbidden Scrollery manga (minus the last volume which isn't out yet here) and am currently in the process of reading it  :D I'll pretty much just absorb any bit of info I can find on the series even if it's just simple interviews with ZUN or fun facts and tidbits on the music and whatnot.

Still cracks me up how quickly you can go from "this is impossible. I'll never do this" to "hey, maybe this isn't so bad" to "this is a walk in the park" with this series. It's why even when I'm being slaughtered horribly learning something new I always try to remind myself that it's never as bad as it looks.

I have like 50 different goals going with this series right now, and that certainly keeps me motivated. The real trick is trying to figure out which goals to focus on first since I have no doubt some of them will require more time and effort then anything I've currently done in the series yet.

And thanks again! I honestly don't see myself burning out with this series for a long, looong time :)
Raikaria:

--- Quote from: Dreamleaf on March 08, 2019, 03:08:57 AM ---After picking up my first bullet hell game in September and not even being able to beat PCB on easy with continues I just got my first lunatic 1cc in Phantasmagoria for a Flower View with Medicine Melancholy :') It definitely took some work and a whole lot of attempts, but it actually wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Got to say, I'm genuinely feeling pretty proud right about now.

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Lunatic PoFV is; as far as I am aware, one of the harder 1CC's on account of the fact that the AI's difficulty scales as you win more, which leads to Komachi/Eiki being absurdly hard to defeat in a 1CC.

Although I also heard Medicine kinda breaks the AI? I dunno.

How tough was it? How much did Komachi/Eiki hammer you? I'm not a big PofV player.
Lunatic_Reimu:

--- Quote from: Dreamleaf on April 22, 2019, 11:03:48 PM ---I spend a great deal of time reading up on the wiki as well as the Touhou TV tropes page. It really does add a lot more to the experience to try to take in the story, characters and lore more. I even bought the entire Forbidden Scrollery manga (minus the last volume which isn't out yet here) and am currently in the process of reading it  :D I'll pretty much just absorb any bit of info I can find on the series even if it's just simple interviews with ZUN or fun facts and tidbits on the music and whatnot.

Still cracks me up how quickly you can go from "this is impossible. I'll never do this" to "hey, maybe this isn't so bad" to "this is a walk in the park" with this series. It's why even when I'm being slaughtered horribly learning something new I always try to remind myself that it's never as bad as it looks.

I have like 50 different goals going with this series right now, and that certainly keeps me motivated. The real trick is trying to figure out which goals to focus on first since I have no doubt some of them will require more time and effort then anything I've currently done in the series yet.

And thanks again! I honestly don't see myself burning out with this series for a long, looong time :)

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Glad to hear that, sounds like you?ve got it down right. It truly will get you more immersed in the Touhou universe in general, and even make the locations more meaningful knowing some backstory about the places you are traversing through :) It really is a wonderful universe that ZUN created, and deserves the appreciation and recognition, even on small things like music comments and fun facts as you are saying :)

Indeed, at first a spell card or stage portion might seem overwhelming, but keep at it, you?ll eventually start seeing your openings and how to deal with that particular attack/stage. That?s what?s wonderful about Touhou, no need for guides or help. All you gotta do is just keep trying and eventually it?ll come to you (and you?ll feel stupid for taking so long to realize how simple it was to get through that part haha).

Goals are always nice and healthy, and they will keep you determined to keep pushing with the series. Yes, start with what seems accessible to you at first, don?t go ?Perfect Lunatic? or ?Pacifist? instantly. Your skill level will increase the more you play and the more games/spell cards you face, so something which seems inaccessible now will be much more within your reach the more time you spend in the Touhou world :)

Thank you as well, it?s nice seeing others that share the same motivation/dedication and love for the series :) Keep going! ;)
Dreamleaf:

--- Quote from: Lunatic_Reimu on April 24, 2019, 12:27:06 PM ---Glad to hear that, sounds like you?ve got it down right. It truly will get you more immersed in the Touhou universe in general, and even make the locations more meaningful knowing some backstory about the places you are traversing through :) It really is a wonderful universe that ZUN created, and deserves the appreciation and recognition, even on small things like music comments and fun facts as you are saying :)

Indeed, at first a spell card or stage portion might seem overwhelming, but keep at it, you?ll eventually start seeing your openings and how to deal with that particular attack/stage. That?s what?s wonderful about Touhou, no need for guides or help. All you gotta do is just keep trying and eventually it?ll come to you (and you?ll feel stupid for taking so long to realize how simple it was to get through that part haha).

Goals are always nice and healthy, and they will keep you determined to keep pushing with the series. Yes, start with what seems accessible to you at first, don?t go ?Perfect Lunatic? or ?Pacifist? instantly. Your skill level will increase the more you play and the more games/spell cards you face, so something which seems inaccessible now will be much more within your reach the more time you spend in the Touhou world :)

Thank you as well, it?s nice seeing others that share the same motivation/dedication and love for the series :) Keep going! ;)

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I find taking time to learn about the characters, setting and whatnot can actually help a bit too even in terms of gameplay. The more you learn about characters the more you understand their mentality and views, which in turn can help you understand the mentality behind the attacks in gameplay. This works both ways too as playing the game can also help you understand the characters and lore a little bit better. It's like fighting against Alice where you see how methodical and controlled her attacks are, and it's kind of what you'd expect from someone who enjoys a more tactical and challenging kind of battle. I really like that all aspects of the series is designed to work in unison with each other and it helps build upon some of the key underlying philosophies that appear to be present in all aspects of the series.

It's hilarious having walked into this series blind and having tried to learn it just by playing. Some of the mistakes I made back then would seem utterly ridiculous to me now. I played for 2 weeks before I even realized there was a focus mode :derp: I remember feeling like it was impossible for me to even tap on a key without flying halfway across the screen and slamming my face into a bullet. I remember spending like an hour and a half on a spellcard that seemed like just a massive clusterfuck of random bullets that needed some ridiculous level of skill to dodge just to suddenly realize that the attack was really just a really funky looking stream which I then proceeded immediately to easily beat. Those joys of learning really does make the growth fun though.

Touhou is the kind of game where sometimes you don't even know what you don't know. It's pretty god damn satisfying when you're playing around and you discover some simple elegant solution to a problem you were previously having. I knew going into this series that practice would be important but one thing I completely underestimated with this series was also how important my own perspective would be. How I approach attacks, how I learn, the goals I set and the reason I play and so on. The better I got at the game the more all those viewpoints changed. I originally walked into the series wanting to be able to say I was able to beat a touhou game in lunatic. I thought it would be the most stressful thing to achieve, and yet there are moments now when I'm playing in lunatic mode and I couldn't even care less whether I get the 1cc or not, I just want to throw myself into an ocean of bullets and the weirdest part is how blissful I feel while I dance in that ocean. There are moments playing this game in lunatic where I feel far more calm and centered then I ever do normally just in day to day life.

I still do like to set goals but I view them more like milestones and as a tool that helps keep me focused rather than being the main reason why I play. As satisfying as accomplishing some really hard challenge is, ultimately it's secondary to the joy that comes from simply playing Touhou you know? This is why I can't see myself burning out with this series. I can honestly say I've truly come to love playing it and even if I were to reach every goal I currently have set I think I'd still want to keep playing. Hell, even if I was the best player in the world and had some of the most brag worthy accomplishments possible I'm pretty sure I'd still want to keep playing and trying to find new ways to push myself even further past my limits. There might be things pretty far out of my current reach atm (pacifist and perfect lunatic runs are certainly on that list) but I'm okay with that since that just means I have no shortage of more to learn!

(Sorry that got more rambly than I intended  :))
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