Serp: I don't get why you thought Tenshi's vote was serious. First off, I got the impression Tenshi is a player who hasn't played Mafia before so to say that "he should know it's bad to bring in outside evidence" is baseless. Secondly, his reason has no relevance to the game.
I meant "should" in the sense that it would be best for him to know it, and therefore I was informing him. If I meant it in the sense that he was probably already aware of it, I would've voted against him instead. As for whether his reason has no relevance to the game, that would depend on the vote being intended as RVS, and if he is indeed new to the game, then he may not be aware of the RVS custom.
In your reasoning for voting Alice, besides the part about seeing Tenshi's supposed serious vote which is speculative, what you accuse Alice of can be said about anyone else, even those who had early random votes. I assume you picked Alice instead of anybody else because Alice has not posted since the game started.
Let me explain my reasoning a little more fully. As I see it, everyone has a duty to put a RVS post out there for others to analyze, for what little it's worth, as soon as they see that the game has started. But once Moonspeak put his arguably serious post out there, anyone posting after that is obligated to comment on it. But by making the first definitely serious post of the game, you put yourself at huge risk of being bandwagoned, especially when it's regarding a sticky issue like outside private information. And by making your RVS vote after what looks like a serious case, you draw suspicion for ignoring it. So, the solution for the player whose highest priority is to preserve himself is to simply not post at all.
I'm not seeing how you can accuse Alice of lurking or not when that was your first post as well and when the early game probably gives off a wait-and-see vibe for most everyone else.
Well, the difference is that I know that I didn't get a chance to read the thread since the game started until just then, and I strongly suspect that some others did, and just chose to back away slowly. And on that subject, just how is "wait-and-see" at all a townie reaction? A townie's job is to analyze what's there, in public, for others to review and either agree with or criticize. Avoiding that is anti-town behavior. I don't see how you could call purposefully avoiding commenting on something a townie move.
If you just wanted to prod Alice, you could have said that, but you're insinuating there's something else there when I see nothing at the moment.
The above case applies to everyone who saw Moonspeak's post and chose to avoid commenting on it. It applies to Alice especially because you'd expect him to show up and place his RVS vote sometime in the first 24 hours of the game, but so far he hasn't done so. I'm not at all happy that the thread just died for ten hours and I had to kick-start it to get some discussion going. When everyone decides to just "wait and see," nothing gets done. We're almost a full 24 hours into the game, and there's hardly any information to analyze out here. My vote's on Alice, but I'm irritated at
everyone who just decided to wait and see what other people would say about Moonspeak's vote.
Also, since you speculated about Tenshi's post, let me ask what do you think of it personally. I personally think it's RVS.
I think that Moonspeak was making a real observation and then voting on it. That means it can't really be considered random. More importantly, I believe it deserved comment, and once people start seriously commenting on each other, RVS is over.
