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Title: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: cuc on August 13, 2015, 02:57:08 PM
UPDATE May 31, 2016: See here (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18774.msg1261495.html#msg1261495).

UPDATE:You can preorder the book at Amazon, and it WILL ship overseas (Link (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4048694294/))

The ebook version is now available for preorder at Kadokawa's ebook store. (Link (http://bookwalker.jp/de92db4b88-8f9b-437b-86a0-c5b494a284e2/%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E5%A4%96%E4%BE%86%E9%9F%8B%E7%B7%A8-Strange-Creators-of-Outer-World-%E5%A3%B1/))

The ebook version DOES NOT contain contents of the music CD. It will become downloadable at 0 AM Sep 30 in Japan.

This particular book is region-locked, so if you are not in Japan, you will need some sort of VPN proxy to access the purchase page. For payment, a VISA or MasterCard credit card from any country should be enough.

Like most Japanese ebooks, you will need to download and read the book through Kadokawa's client app, which serves as DRM.


Dengeki Moeoh, a magazine under the auspices of Kadokawa Group, has announced (http://moeoh.dengeki.com/archives/4192) that they are publishing an official Touhou Project magazine. The first issue, 『東方外來韋編 Strange Creators of Outer World. 壱』, will be available on Sep 30, 2015.

(http://i.imgur.com/3ypALiT.jpg)
The official site (http://tohogairai.dengeki.com/) of the Touhou magazine currently has a teaser page up. According to the page, the magazine is made with the full support and oversight of ZUN. It will feature interviews and introductions of doujin creators in all fields of Touhou fandom (beginning with ZUN himself, of course), newbie-friendly information on the Touhou universe, a new serialization by ZUN (EDIT: confirmed to be Touhou Kourindou), and a music arrangement CD by guest musicians.


Here are some pictures of PR materials spotted by a fan (source: 1 (https://twitter.com/synno_takana/status/631756572763381760), 2 (https://twitter.com/synno_takana/status/631750138055147520)), showing more artwork by Masakichi:
(http://i.imgur.com/e9Cj3Rs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EmGnfi1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c5lLLvb.jpg)

Explanation of the title:
東方外來韋編 likely should be pronounced Touhou Gairai Ihen.

壱 is a formal document way of writing "ONE", marking this as the first issue.

外来 gairai is a common word meaning "of external origin, exogeneous" (e.g. imported goods, non-native person, foreign substance), written here using 來, the older form of the character "rai" instead of the modern standard 来.

Gensokyoans call books from the outside world 外来本 gairai hon, which we have been translating as "imported books".

韋編 ihen here is used as an overeducated old school scholar-ish way of saying "books". First of all, before paper was invented, ancient Chinese books were written on strips (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_and_wooden_slips) of bamboo or wood, bound together by leather cords. These leather bindings are called 韋編 wei bian. The word is connected to a story about the love of learning, 韋編三絕 "the leather bindings wore out three times" (http://www.silkqin.com/01mywk/themes/conf.htm):
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"In his old age Confucius loved to study the Book of Changes [...]. He studied this book so much that the leather thongs binding the wooden strips wore out three times."

Hence the main title can be roughly translated as Eastern Tomes of External Origins.
Title: Re: First issue of the official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: cuc on August 13, 2015, 03:05:28 PM
I guess this should be the big 2015 bomb (or one of the bombs) ZUN has been teasing for the better half of this year. Unlike many previous "introduction to Touhou" publications - like the infamous Eastern and Bright Nature Deity appendix, he is clearly heavily involved with the magazine.

On the other hand, the title suggests the main purpose of the magazine is to act as a platform for showcasing fan talents, with the outside world as a metaphor for the Touhou fandom. This is consistent with what he has been doing with the Touhou brand in recent years - exploring ways to support doujin creators.

As for the new serialization, an easy guess is that it stars Sumireko, having adventures inside and outside Gensokyo.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: PK on August 13, 2015, 03:32:48 PM
First of all: Yay!
...
Does this mean FS and/or WaHH are coming to an end?

"Creators of outer world"...maybe some other Gensokyo-like place is involved, or they plan to create another one because it's becoming too small to host everyone? Would be great i believe, although it likely refers to something else.

Title: Re: First issue of the official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Quwanti on August 13, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
As for the new serialization, an easy guess is that it stars Sumireko, having adventures inside and outside Gensokyo.
That would be really great, actually. Really hoping for that one.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Suspicious person on August 13, 2015, 04:42:11 PM
Ooooh ~ so we're getting a Touhouzine  this time ? Neat ! I'm curious about how it'll introduce Gensokyo to the newbies : all-in or little by little, since there'll supposedly be other issues beside this ? At any rate, it's gonna be refreshing read  :3

As for the new serialization, an easy guess is that it stars Sumireko, having adventures inside and outside Gensokyo.
That'd be pretty nice. If this is going to be for the newcomers too, maybe it won't be something too hard to digest, but something simple yet enjoyable like, dunno, maybe something like a 4koma  series or something ? At any rate, this might not introduce new characters (I hope it does, though)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Plubio on August 13, 2015, 04:57:45 PM
This sounds so nice, damn.
I'm looking forward the contents of this magazine, and the new Touhou manga/novel as well. Glad to see Masakichi again, I love his art.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Validon98 on August 13, 2015, 04:58:01 PM
"Creators of outer world"...maybe some other Gensokyo-like place is involved, or they plan to create another one because it's becoming too small to host everyone? Would be great i believe, although it likely refers to something else.

I think it's referring to the Outside World more than anything, especially since it seems to have focus on the fandom aspects of the series.

Still, this is probably the last thing I ever expected for the series, but it'll be nice to have another source of lore, not to mention it sounds like it could very easily introduce people unfamiliar to the series to it without being too crazy.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Clarste on August 13, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
The "Strange Creators of the Outer World" are obviously us, the Touhou fandom of the Outside World. I don't think there's any other possible interpretation.
Title: Re: First issue of the official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Shizzo on August 13, 2015, 08:31:52 PM
like the infamous Eastern and Bright Nature Deity appendix, he is clearly heavily involved with the magazine.

Oh?  I haven't read EaBND at all so I've no idea what the appendix could have that would be considered infamous.  Got curious - What's it about?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Kilgamayan on August 13, 2015, 11:26:43 PM
That's quite the Sanae to have on promo material for official content.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Kaizaki on August 13, 2015, 11:29:25 PM
This sounds great. A set similar to Bougetsushou may be too much for newcomers... Still, one can dream.
Title: Re: First issue of the official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Drake on August 14, 2015, 12:21:01 AM
Oh?  I haven't read EaBND at all so I've no idea what the appendix could have that would be considered infamous.  Got curious - What's it about?
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13761.msg976751.html#msg976751

One of EaBND's volumes had an appendix section with character introductions and whatnot. These were sections that looked like this (http://blog.livedoor.jp/benjosan/archives/1237037.html), but with various errors in portraits, names and text, described in the link above.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: cuc on August 14, 2015, 12:40:39 AM
I forgot to mention that "Outer World" could be a reference to the groundbreaking game "Another World" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_World_%28video_game%29), alternatively titled "Out of This World" in the U.S., and "Outer World" in Japan.

Another thing is that in today's Japanese vernacular, the loanword クリエータ "creator" is used exclusively to refer to artistic creatives.

EDIT:
On a completely unrelated note, Pori☆Pori Club (a web show ZUN is a "regular guest" in) had a public event in June 14, where each panelist presented one or two games they wanted to recommend. ZUN's recommendation was STARWHAL (http://store.steampowered.com/app/263020/).

This game is now part of the "beat the average" bonus in the weekly Humble Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly). Keep in mind it is a local multiplayer game without an online mode.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: UTW on August 14, 2015, 04:37:06 AM
Does this mean FS and/or WaHH are coming to an end?


I'd say it's likely, but you could make a case for either. WaHH has been going a long time and I've read constant speculation of Febri being in trouble with cancellation imminent. Accordingly, WaHH would either have to go with it or be moved to another Ichijinsha magazine, like Comic Rex, as speculated. Though I don't know how accurate those rumors were.

However, it would be easier on ZUN if the monthly serialization, FS, was dropped. I'd say WaHH is closer to resolution than FS, though. And frankly, I wonder if people don't just want to see her secrets laid out already and are getting a bit tired of it (simply basing this on how popular Kasen was before, but not so much anymore, even after ULiL), but I know ZUN only abides by his wishes.

Frankly, I never thought WaHH was going to last this long, since I thought it was just going to be a limited 20-something chapter series like SSiB. But both WAHH and FS have taken up the world-building mantle of the Three Fairies manga where it's just a bunch of short stories about Gensokyo. There can be room for both, but since FS gave us something never really seen before (life in the Human Village, Human-Youkai relations and politics, etc.), I'd rather that one be kept. I think there's still more to be done with it.

In the end, it depends a lot on if this magazine is a monthly or bi-monthly thing, but I would bet on bi-monthly. Though I would like FS to be kept, I just have a feeling it won't be based on ZUN's current workload. But for all we know, it'll be WAHH to go, or both.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: PK on August 14, 2015, 09:11:06 AM

I think it's referring to the Outside World more than anything, especially since it seems to have focus on the fandom aspects of the series.
The "Strange Creators of the Outer World" are obviously us, the Touhou fandom of the Outside World. I don't think there's any other possible interpretation.
Well, yes, i got that. It wasn't clear, but I was talking more about a possible double-meaning, since it'd be a bit weird if the title didn't have anything to do with the stories we are gonna get.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: HalfGrand on August 14, 2015, 04:11:14 PM
Now *this* is an interesting development in the Touhou "brand". I remember ZUN has always been talking about in interviews how he wanted to help other people in the doujin scene and this is a good platform for doing just that. I will defiantly be interested in how this turns out (especially the world building stuff).

Yesterday, shooting games... Today, a magazine... Tomorrow... An anime?

Also, dose this mean that ZUN thought it would be fun to get involved in magazine printing? I remember ZUN saying that he likes to get into things if he thinks they will be fun to make... like his games.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: cuc on August 28, 2015, 03:20:49 PM
In today's Nikenme Radio stream (source: Tohomemory (http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/45237775.html)), Okonogi and ZUN indicated that ZUN is checking over the magazine's manuscript with great care, giving directions about how sentences are better phrased. ZUN said the process recalls BAiJR, and the magazine will be the same old thing (as they have always done), nothing groundbreaking.

Of course, the implication is that the magazine is being produced by Okonogi, ZUN's long-time editor responsible for BAiJR, PMiSS, CiLR, SoPm and WaHH. It looks like from now on, all new official Touhou publications will come out through Kadokawa, and the Ichijinsha era will eventually come to an end.

Another detail from the stream is that ZUN mentioned Touhou was first publicly exhibited in some form in 1995, which was not known before. He also said Touhou have three different 20th anniversaries, which fans have interpreted to mean anniversaries for three different milestone moments of the first Touhou game - for example, the start of development, the end of development, and the first time it was publicly shown.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: cuc on August 29, 2015, 02:47:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/eRqvOe2.jpg)

Someone (https://twitter.com/mu_tachibana/status/637533039115939840) has found an ad spread in today's issue of Dengeki Moeoh. The spread has confirmed that the Touhou magazine will contain an in-depth interview about Touhou 15, and a "new serialization": "Touhou Kourindou" (Provisional Title), with illustrations by Genji Asai.

The old "Touhou Kourindou ~ Curiosities of Lotus Asia" stories ended serialization in 2007, and was collected in one volume in 2010. Recently, Marisa had introduced Kosuzu to Kourindou and its owner Rinnosuke, an action they must feel some regret for.
(http://i.imgur.com/42dAGyB.jpg)

Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: hungrybookworm on August 29, 2015, 03:15:44 PM
I was hoping for another prose thing so I'm very happy about this! Looking forward to Kourin being snarky around all the newer touhous. (Good thing this magazine comes out around the same time as comp ace so I can ship them together... though the bigger question is, are my Japanese skills ready for Rinnosuke's giant folklore heavy speeches...?)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: N-Forza on August 29, 2015, 03:41:00 PM
I am 110% down for this.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: Plubio on August 29, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Awww, I'm so excited towards this.
Will be waiting more information!

Thank you, cuc!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: Drake on August 30, 2015, 01:44:13 AM
Dude I saw this spread and didn't notice what the text said. Yes yes yes yes yes yes.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: cuc on September 02, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
Amazon Japan has a preorder page up. Information says 160 pages for 1200 yen.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4048694294/
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: Plubio on September 16, 2015, 10:00:36 AM
Some cover art sneak peeks coming from Twitter (https://twitter.com/chiba_sama/status/644082644964130816).
Looks like Genji Asai will draw the firts issue cover.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: Drake on September 16, 2015, 10:15:58 AM
hurgggg that looks good
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced, or: the Return of Rinnosuke
Post by: cuc on September 17, 2015, 10:05:42 AM
Some cover art sneak peeks coming from Twitter (https://twitter.com/chiba_sama/status/644082644964130816).
Looks like Genji Asai will draw the firts issue cover.
The tweet was made by an editor of the magazine when he was "doing color check for the cover."

Artwork for some preorder bonus stuff:
(http://i.imgur.com/rdnXfPF.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/wf8XLFW.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/GMq7ZMR.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/CR6YooA.jpg)


Somewhat related to the magazine, ZUN will have two stream appearances at Tokyo Game Show 2015.

During September 19's Indie Stream Fes 2015, the party for indie developers, PoriPori Club will again have (http://poriporiclub.blogspot.com/2015/09/tgs.html) a live talkshow (6:00~9:00 PM (JST)), and ZUN will be there.

On Sep 20, from 2:00 PM to 3:00 PM, ZUN will speak (http://poriporiclub.blogspot.com/2015/09/tgs.html) at Dengeki Online's official stream.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced (Ebook Available!)
Post by: cuc on September 18, 2015, 04:25:36 PM
The ebook version is now available for preorder at Kadokawa's ebook store. (Link (http://bookwalker.jp/de92db4b88-8f9b-437b-86a0-c5b494a284e2/%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E5%A4%96%E4%BE%86%E9%9F%8B%E7%B7%A8-Strange-Creators-of-Outer-World-%E5%A3%B1/))

The ebook version DOES NOT contain contents of the music CD. It will become downloadable at 0 AM Sep 30 in Japan.

This particular book is region-locked, so if you are not in Japan, you will need some sort of VPN proxy to access the purchase page. For payment, a VISA or MasterCard credit card from any country should be enough.

Like most Japanese ebooks, you will need to read the book through Kadokawa's client app, which serves as DRM.

Nowadays, you can actually buy the majority of Touhou manga paperbacks (SSiB, Inaba, WaHH and FS) as ebooks. It's just Febri and Comp Ace, the magazines that carry Touhou serializations are in hard copy only.

Thankfully, this new magazine is being published by the Dengeki/ASCII subsidiary, who seems to have fully embraced ebooks. The only issue with their publications is the region lock, which should be easy to bypass.

If you are considering buying the other ebooks now:
From what can be gleamed (https://note.mu/ciron460/n/n1d43b47125f5) from the internet, for the majority of ebooks, including those published by Ichijinsha (SSiB, Inaba, WaHH), eBookJapan (http://www.ebookjapan.jp/ebj/) tend to offer the highest image resolution and quality. That's for reference only, 'cause I haven't tested it.

However, ebooks published by Kadokawa are all based on their own Bookwalker sources. Buying them elsewhere does not offer any advantage. Kadokawa also often release their ebooks on Bookwalker first before other sites, although Forbidden Scrollery is a simultaneous release at all sites.


On the other side, ZUN had wrapped up (https://twitter.com/korindo/status/644517858802663424) the last editorial meeting for the magazine yesterday.

Here's him taking a look at a printed sample for the Touhou 15 in-depth interview.  (From Okonogi's twitter (https://twitter.com/_nyogi/status/644523730002022401))
(http://i.imgur.com/FwPKjs2.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced (Ebook Available!)
Post by: hungrybookworm on September 18, 2015, 06:19:28 PM
I got excited by the words 'ebook' but region lock and DRM, geh. I'm going to ship it with this month's comp ace anyway so unless the digital version is significantly cheaper I guess I'll just stare at my letterbox as always.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: the old guy on September 20, 2015, 07:10:51 AM
I want to point out that Reimu and Marisa are entwining their fingers on the cover:

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/969f0744f8064f7bffb148d10fad6d13/tumblr_nuyq5hH17u1rmn561o1_1280.png)

I wonder if this is ZUN's way of teasing the shippers.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: ZM on September 20, 2015, 07:14:50 AM
I want to point out that Reimu and Marisa are entwining their fingers on the cover:

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/969f0744f8064f7bffb148d10fad6d13/tumblr_nuyq5hH17u1rmn561o1_1280.png)

I wonder if this is ZUN's way of teasing the shippers.

I wonder if they're going to be in a threeway with Rinnosuke.
Also Alice btfo
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: cuc on September 20, 2015, 08:09:41 AM
ZUN's interview on the Dengeki Online stream has just ended.
(Some screencaps and info from Tohomemory (http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/45468780.html) and Vanishing Hermit (https://twitter.com/vanihami))

- ZUN: I don't make console games because it's too much trouble for me.
- ZUN: The magazine is in some way a celebration of the 20th anniversary.

- Okonogi showed a few sneak peeks of the magazine:
(http://i.imgur.com/PQtnIB8.png)

- As Okonogi booted up LoLK's music room, they began talking about the game's music.
- ZUN: Writing the Stage 4 theme was a pleasant experience. When I spend time thinking about how to write a song, the song tends to be bad. Writing whatever comes to my mind is pleasant.
- ZUN: Due to the lore, [LoLK] absolutely must be a hard game.
- ZUN: Stage 5 feels like a shooting game from the past.
- ZUN: Extra Stage is Stage 7, thus it is part of the main story.
- ZUN: This time for players, beating Easy is enough. I wouldn't force them to [play on harder difficulties.]

- ZUN: (Browsing twitter on his phone) I see a cosplay of Clownpiece from the American TouhouCon. America has a good fandom environment. I'd like to go there again.
- He recently received an invitation from an event in France. [cuc: Japan Expo 2015, perhaps?]

- ZUN: As for the moons of the Stage 5 boss, I couldn't beat them myself when I tried it.
- ZUN: The writing process for the Stage 5 boss theme was very freewheeling.

- ZUN's food and drink column will continue on Comp Ace.
- ZUN: (Looking at pictures of his son) My son is so cute. Okonogi: You already said that during the interview.

- ZUN: Making the [danmaku] is fun, but dodging them is a pain.
- ZUN: (About the spacey motif of LoLK music) I heart space.

- The next issue of the magazine will be released in spring 2016.
- ZUN: The character introductions [in the magazine] are not written by me. In the past when I wrote them myself, people found them difficult to understand.

During the final audience Q&A session:
Q: Why is Hecatia wearing the weird T-shirt?
ZUN: For the answer to this question, please read about it in Gairai Ihen.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: cuc on September 20, 2015, 08:17:05 AM
Another reminder to people:
You can preorder the book at Amazon, and it WILL ship overseas (Link (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4048694294/))

I want to point out that Reimu and Marisa are entwining their fingers on the cover:
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/969f0744f8064f7bffb148d10fad6d13/tumblr_nuyq5hH17u1rmn561o1_1280.png)
Artists: Alstroemeria Records, SOUND HOLIC, and Yuuhei Satellite
Kind of a boringly safe selection.

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I wonder if this is ZUN's way of teasing the shippers.
Lol, for the sake of your sanity, try not to read too much into Genji Asai's artwork. He slips all kind of weird crap into his Touhou illustrations.

More sneak peeks:
(http://i.imgur.com/WMoeUXw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Yw2Iec6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ITNDSGr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TPzD6F0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/SX8d5c7.png)

"Touhou Kourindou ~ Curiosities of Lotus Asia."
Chapter 1: The alone and aloof curio shop owner
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Quwanti on September 20, 2015, 11:57:07 AM
Artists: Alstroemeria Records, SOUND HOLIC, and Yuuhei Satellite
Kind of a boringly safe selection.
I wonder if ZUN will provide a new song on the CD, or is it arrangements only?

I like it that the first chapter seems to be about ULiL.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: cuc on September 20, 2015, 02:12:23 PM
Arrangements only, it seems.

Eh, there's another one (http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/45472057.html) from the stream which I wasn't sure about. ZUN said Hecatia's planets do "sink into her head".

That's more than the confirmation anyone would ever need about the planets.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 20, 2015, 03:10:31 PM
- ZUN: (Browsing twitter on his phone) I see a cosplay of Clownpiece from the American TouhouCon. America has a good fandom environment. I'd like to go there again.

!!!!!!!!!

Also, I'm 99% sure I know who this is. If I see her again today, I'll have to tell her.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: hungrybookworm on September 20, 2015, 03:23:22 PM
I wholeheartedly approve of the cover, more Sumireko and maji ikemen Kourin.

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- He recently received an invitation from an event in France. [cuc: Japan Expo 2015, perhaps?]
Goddamnit ZUN please come to Europe.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Anseriform on September 20, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
- ZUN: (Browsing twitter on his phone) I see a cosplay of Clownpiece from the American TouhouCon. America has a good fandom environment. I'd like to go there again.
- He recently received an invitation from an event in France. [cuc: Japan Expo 2015, perhaps?]
 

Does this mean ZUN got invited but didn't go (Japan Expo 2015 was in July) or is it an invitation for an upcoming event?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: kevin1127 on September 20, 2015, 07:00:32 PM
Oh wow, I was right
I always thought since ZUN made the music first and character danmaku stage second, if he made the music second, that would not be a good music

And great! New CoLA starts with Sumireko and...... an iPhone??? Okay.....
I feel like Sumireko is going to get more official appearance from now on
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Reu on September 21, 2015, 11:11:04 AM
Oh wow, I was right
I always thought since ZUN made the music first and character danmaku stage second, if he made the music second, that would not be a good music

And great! New CoLA starts with Sumireko and...... an iPhone??? Okay.....
I feel like Sumireko is going to get more official appearance from now on

Maybe, maybe not.

But it does make sense for her to appear here at least once simply because Rinnosuke needs some more tech to be confused about.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: HalfGrand on September 22, 2015, 06:19:10 PM
I'm wondering about the CoLA entry of this magazine and how it will fit in with ZUN's original CoLA from long ago.

Is it going to be more of a reboot of CoLA or a continuation of that series? If it is indeed a continuation then I thought it was finished.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: cuc on September 24, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Amazon has released the full image of the cover:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71Z0hG7xFBL.jpg)

The Dengeki Moeoh website has finally given us a full preview (http://moeoh.dengeki.com/archives/4323) of the magazine's contents.

- Special Feature 1: introduction to LoLK and interview with ZUN
- Special Feature 2: Introduction to ULiL and interview with game director Unabara
- The Play,Doujin! corner: interviews with the developers: Yuro (Cubetype), JYUNYA (Aqua Style), Zukki (Ryouiki Zero), Naocchi (programmer), and Mediascape
- Beginners' column about the world and characters of Touhou Project, with comments by ZUN
- The return of CoLA
- Comics by the following artists (I'm too lazy to transcribe, just note that they have Arata, the Inaba artist):
火鳥、相生青唯、葉庭、水炊き、水中花火、ととみねぎ、あらたとしひら
- Arrangement CD, and interviews with music circles

I'm wondering about the CoLA entry of this magazine and how it will fit in with ZUN's original CoLA from long ago.

Is it going to be more of a reboot of CoLA or a continuation of that series? If it is indeed a continuation then I thought it was finished.
Reboots are part of the CoLA experience ;) . The old CoLA was published on and off over 4 years in five different places, and witnessed the death of two magazines and one website. Depending on your criteria, you can say CoLA had already been rebooted more than once. That's also why ZUN jokes about himself being a "magazine crusher". That's not even mentioning how much ZUN's own life and thinking had changed during the writing of CoLA. The stories from different periods in the CoLA book are as different from each other as they will be from the new chapters.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Plubio on September 25, 2015, 11:29:54 AM
Thank you very much, cuc. The cover looks amazing, and I'm glad to see Arata again.
I'm waiting for this, I'm looking forward reading new CoLA.

Too bad I'll have to wait to October 5 to get my own copy.
Will be worth, though.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: UTW on September 25, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
The others seem to be Minato Hitori (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=minato_hitori+touhou&page=). Aioi Aoi (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=aioi_aoi+touhou&page=), Haniwa (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=haniwa_%28leaf_garden%29+touhou&page=), Mizutaki (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=mizumoto_tadashi+touhou&page=) (also the artist of the random illustrations seen at the end of FS chapters), Suichuu Hanabi (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=suichuu_hanabi+touhou&page=), and Totonemigi (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=toto_nemigi+touhou&page=).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: hungrybookworm on September 25, 2015, 02:01:01 PM
Minato Hitori? Of "Marisa gets haemorrhoids" and "Let's make udon soup out of Sakuya's used bathwater" fame? This'll be interesting, lol.

I hope they make a poster out of that cover someday, so I can stick it on my wall and all the poor souls visiting my flat will get a face full of reimari hand-holding when they walk inside.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: kevin1127 on September 30, 2015, 12:38:52 AM
First 15 pages
http://seiga.nicovideo.jp/watch/bk314457#playing

EDITED: OMG it looks like there are so much information on story and character of LoLK. The sad thing is I don't understand most of the meanings.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Plubio on September 30, 2015, 01:52:22 AM
God, it even mentions Imperishable Night, Eirin, Kaguya, Silent Sinner in Blue, Rei'sen and Yukari.
I need to translate this as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: hungrybookworm on September 30, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
I caved in and got the ebook version of this in the end. Bought it off Amazon's kindle store (because I didn't need a VPN) which turned out to be a terrible idea. It wouldn't synch with my PC Kindle app, and the cloud viewer didn't have a zoom button so I couldn't read any of the kanji blah blah grumble grumble. Used a VPN and grabbed a second copy off bookwalker. Accepts paypal. Zooms in beautifully. Recommended. (My money... *sob*)

Anyway the Kourindou story was entertaining and the LoLK interview's great. Packed full of info about the lolks and the overall story. I've skimmed everything else and the character profiles/location encyclopaedia seem pretty well researched. If you can read Japanese I think this is worth the purchase. For those of you who don't read Japanese... watch warmly for translations. (The DDC interview never got translated so will anyone do the LoLK interview I wonder...)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: N-Forza on September 30, 2015, 12:33:29 PM
If the DDC one is transcribed somewhere I might take a shot at it, but that's assuming I can find the time...
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: hungrybookworm on September 30, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
If the DDC one is transcribed somewhere I might take a shot at it, but that's assuming I can find the time...
It's right here on the wiki (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Febri/Double_Dealing_Character_interview_with_ZUN). If I trusted my Japanese more I'd have a crack at it myself. (There's something really intimidating about translating ZUN...) Maybe if it's still untranslated this time next year...
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: N-Forza on September 30, 2015, 02:35:40 PM
Perfect, I'll see about tackling it when I next have downtime.

Also, pertaining to the magazine, I scanned the interview real quick and found out that the American flag the fairies discovered may not have actually come from the moon.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Kaizaki on September 30, 2015, 05:48:26 PM
Urk. Must. Have. Patience. ><
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: kevin1127 on October 01, 2015, 02:31:30 AM
Here are some of the information from LoLK interview
(This is taken from a Chinese website and I translated it, so there may be errors)

1. ZUN thinks the appearance of Yukari in Marisa's ending is the beginning.
2. Lunar Capital is based on Takama-ga-hara(高天原). There are other people like Chang'e and Lord Tsukuyomi, some of them are even greater than Tsukuyomi and there are beings greater than divine spirits. But ZUN has no intention to make those beings appear.  (damn, people greater than lord of Lunar Capital)
3. Eirin's status in Lunar Capital is not very high.  (one of the founders and sages in Lunar Capital, not very high in status, what kind of people are higher than Eirin)
4. Kishin is stronger than those fairies outside, but she neither can't go nor see what's out there, so she didn't know how strong enemy is.
5. Clownpiece changed her clothes after she saw the flag on the moon.
6. The true power of Urban Legend is not creating something out of nothing, it's rewriting the history. ( i have no idea what this means)
7. The story is just venting. Neither moving to Gensokyo nor invading Lunar Capital is serious (typical Touhou incident once again)
8. If Lunar Capital were moving to Gensokyo seriously, people in Gensokyo would disappeared and they won't even notice it. (how godly is Lunar Ca....oh wait, Lunarians ARE gods)
9. Hecatia is a being beyond Gensokyo and Lunar Capital, of course is greater than Eiki. (4chan power-level-argumen-er intensifies)
10. There are many more stuffs about hell. Eiki is just a judge from an organization created by oni from hell. (plz don't kill me if i translated this sentence wrong) And Reimu's position is not human sided, her job is just to protect Gensokyo's balance, protect balance between humans and youkais, and protects the barrier.
11. Hecatia's different colors have different personality. (fandom intensifies)
12. ZUN thinks Hecatia changes her cloth color AS her hair color changes.
13. The words on her clothes were originally "I (heart) Hell" instead of "Welcome (heart) hell". But he thinks this is too far so he changes it.
14. Hecatia is supposed to be a serious character, but ZUN wants to make her "serious but with weird outfit".
15. Gensokyo is part of the Spirit World. Every worlds that we don't understand is part of the Spirit World.

EDITED: Grammar error :P
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: teefa85 on October 01, 2015, 03:03:04 AM
I'm not surprised by the Clownpiece thing.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Drake on October 01, 2015, 04:07:05 AM
1. ZUN thinks the appearance of Yukari in Marisa's ending is the beginning.
this is very good yes
2. Lunar Capital is based on Takama-ga-hara(高天原). There are other people like Chang'e and Lord Tsukuyomi, some of them are even greater than Tsukuyomi and there are beings greater than divine spirits. But ZUN has no intention to make those beings appear.  (damn, people greater than lord of Lunar Capital)
Entirely expected. Those greater than Tsukuyomi would just be some of the heavenly gods that existed before him.
3. Eirin's status in Lunar Capital is not very high.  (one of the founders and sages in Lunar Capital, not very high in status, what kind of people are higher than Eirin)
Same deal. Omoikane isn't one of the more major heavenly gods.
6. The true power of Urban Legend is not creating something out of nothing, it's rewriting the history. ( i have no idea what this means)
Very likely referring to how urban legends like "they never went to the moon" are the most powerful because if accepted they change history, i.e. the records of the past. An urban legend of a lady who stabs you with scissors isn't very powerful.
10. There are many more stuffs about hell. Eiki is just a judge from an organization created by oni from hell. (plz don't kill me if i translated this sentence wrong)
"Created by" is probably wrong, seeing as we already have information about where the Ministry came from.
15. Gensokyo is part of the Spirit World. Every worlds that we don't understand is part of the Spirit World.
If this is 異界, I think we're using the term Otherworld(s) right now. In other words, both the Dream World and Gensokyo are otherworlds.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: kevin1127 on October 01, 2015, 04:18:11 AM
"Created by" is probably wrong, seeing as we already have information about where the Ministry came from.
I thought so. I suck at translating. But you got the point, I think.
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If this is 異界, I think we're using the term Otherworld(s) right now. In other words, both the Dream World and Gensokyo are otherworlds.
I go by wiki translation of 異界, I don't know what is the official translation.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Drake on October 01, 2015, 05:42:24 AM
I think the problem in that regard is that the wiki is a bit inconsistent because what 異界 even means hasn't really been well-established as of LoLK, it was just mentioned as a thing that Hecatia has domain in and it's related to the Dream World. The term 異界 isn't easily translated and the intended meaning isn't clear either. I had previously figured that saying Otherworld/Spirit World was plainly equivalent to the Dream World, but if that answer is accurate then I would be mistaken. It's also the reason why people have used "Spirit World" to begin with; they figure it's just one thing. Is the relevant question in the preview version?

EDIT: Actually there's way more interesting information. I'm busy right now but I really want to try translating some of this soon.

EDIT: Okay so what he says in that answer is that 異界 isn't really one solid thing, it's a description. "Otherworld" or even "Other world" is probably a good enough translation judging by how he uses it here.
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いろいろあるよね。幻想郷も「異界」のイメージです。要は、我々が認識していない世界をひっくるめて「異界」と言っているので。月と地球「以外」ですね。
"There are many of them. Gensokyo also evokes the impression of 'otherworld'. In essence, worlds that we don't recognize we all lump into 'otherworlds'. Worlds that aren't the moon or the Earth, really."
(also there's a pun with saying 異界 "ikai" and 以外 "igai")
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Damien on October 01, 2015, 10:36:01 AM

2. Lunar Capital is based on Takama-ga-hara(高天原). There are other people like Chang'e and Lord Tsukuyomi, some of them are even greater than Tsukuyomi and there are beings greater than divine spirits. But ZUN has no intention to make those beings appear.  (damn, people greater than lord of Lunar Capital)
3. Eirin's status in Lunar Capital is not very high.  (one of the founders and sages in Lunar Capital, not very high in status, what kind of people are higher than Eirin)

Of course it is. There are two collective group of gods that higher than Chang'e, Tsukuyomi, and Eirin (Omoikane) :
First is the Kamiyonanayo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamiyonanayo), pairs of seven generation Gods that exist after the creation of the heaven and earth, which Izanagi and Izanami are part of. And above Kamiyonanayo itself is the Kotoamatsukami (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotoamatsukami), which is the collective name of Hitorigami (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitorigami) (First Gods that came into existence at the time of the creation of the universe). Amenominakanushi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenominakanushi) place the position as the first kami in the universe.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Shizzo on October 01, 2015, 06:03:42 PM
All of those tidbits about Hecatia <3 <3 That just hypes my expectations that she'll get on the spotlight somewhere in the future!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: PK on October 02, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
Of course it is. There are two collective group of gods that higher than Chang'e, Tsukuyomi, and Eirin (Omoikane) :
First is the Kamiyonanayo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamiyonanayo), pairs of seven generation Gods that exist after the creation of the heaven and earth, which Izanagi and Izanami are part of. And above Kamiyonanayo itself is the Kotoamatsukami (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotoamatsukami), which is the collective name of Hitorigami (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitorigami) (First Gods that came into existence at the time of the creation of the universe). Amenominakanushi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenominakanushi) place the position as the first kami in the universe.

How does Sagume's original deity rank compared to Omoikane? Is Sagume, a "very important" lunarian, supposed to be more important than Eirin, going by mythology?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Damien on October 02, 2015, 05:59:47 PM
How does Sagume's original deity rank compared to Omoikane? Is Sagume, a "very important" lunarian, supposed to be more important than Eirin, going by mythology?

Sagume seems below Eirin, since her original myth (http://eos.kokugakuin.ac.jp/modules/xwords/entry.php?entryID=42) is a servant of deity Amewakahiko (http://eos.kokugakuin.ac.jp/modules/xwords/entry.php?entryID=46) (Son of Amaterasu).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: HalfGrand on October 02, 2015, 07:57:16 PM
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ZUN thinks the appearance of Yukari in Marisa's ending is the beginning.

So just to clarify, the sequence where Marisa had a talk with Yukari in Marisa's Ending was actually before Marisa went to the moon? So instead of an ending for Marisa we get a prologue instead?

I would love to learn more about what kinds of things ZUN describes about the Touhouverse from this magazine.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Plubio on October 02, 2015, 08:46:11 PM
So just to clarify, the sequence where Marisa had a talk with Yukari in Marisa's Ending was actually before Marisa went to the moon? So instead of an ending for Marisa we get a prologue instead?

No; he means that Marisa's ending is the "beginning of a new story".
Marisa discusses with Yukari the recent Barrier affairs (ULiL and LoLK) and she mentions Sagume as well, Yukari saying she's an interesting person.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Sagus on October 03, 2015, 04:55:02 AM
1. ZUN thinks the appearance of Yukari in Marisa's ending is the beginning.
I got more hype from this than I probably should have.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: HalfGrand on October 03, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
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No; he means that Marisa's ending is the "beginning of a new story".

Ah I see, thanks.

I would love for there to be a brief summery of the ULiL interview. I bet there are some juicy tidbits in there about it's production that would be interesting.

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I got more hype from this than I probably should have.

A little bit of evidence that ZUN has no intention of retiring from Touhou yet? I'll drink to that!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: kevin1127 on October 06, 2015, 01:34:58 AM
Oh man, can't believe it takes many days for my shitty translation to be posted on 4chan, and now I am going to summarize new CoLA
I was thinking about briefly summarize FS 32 also, but it's irrelevant and probably better post it in misc thoughts thread after new WaHH spoiler is out.

No; he means that Marisa's ending is the "beginning of a new story".
Thanks for clarifying, some people misunderstood that apparently.
10. There are many more stuffs about hell. Eiki is just a judge from an organization created by oni from hell. (plz don't kill me if i translated this sentence wrong)
This part is really fucked up, I'm so sorry.


(As always, my translation is not good and there may be several errors)
1. It starts with Sumireko's perspective.
2. Reimu and Marisa told her not to go to forest, she did so anyway, and found Kourindou with a ton of junks that only appears in picture of the past (before she was born)
3. And then it changes to Rinnosuke's perspective.
4. Sumireko shows him her smartphone.
5. One of the reason why Sumireko likes Gensokyo: PEOPLE DON'T USE THEIR PHONES ALL THE TIME. 
"It's fine when people use phones for basic communications, but people nowadays use phones to chat, watch news, play games, and watch video. Finally interesting things happen all around the world, but people can't see those things with their eyes. People take pictures only for something that would start a discussion on social media website, they don't care what pictures did they take. There are so many supernatural things happening in the world."    (Rinnosuke: i cri eveyteim)
6. Sumireko promised that she will bring more items (read: junks) to Kourindou for selling.

7. I bet there are people who don't give a fuck at any of those things above but this one: Rinnosuke has an assistant.
There is no physical description nor the name of the assistant. Sumireko met him/her/it before she entered Kourindou
Rinnosuke said he hired that assistant to help him picking up items, and as a reward, Rinnosuke paid him/her/it meager salary and told him/her/it the name and use of the items. But he/she/it always picks up worthless items, so Rinnosuke had to go by himself anyway.
(which means either we have a new character, or it's an existing character, some guesses are Tokiko, Marisa, and Nazrin.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: teefa85 on October 06, 2015, 03:10:27 AM
Thank you for that aside on phones, Sumireko.  I've been saying the same thing since the day we took my grandfather out for his birthday and everyone watched a football game on their phones the entire dinner!

Now I wonder what sort of hijinks her various gifts to Rinnosuke will end up in!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: NuclearFalcon on October 06, 2015, 03:30:01 AM
When something involving Yukari is "only the beginning" then you KNOW something is up...

Wow, Hecatia trumping the Yama is just...  wow...

Also, if Clownpiece is wearing her outfit based on the flags that she saw on the moon then she should be dressed in pure white (which actually would still be fitting given purification from Junko).

http://gizmodo.com/5930450/all-the-american-flags-on-the-moon-are-now-white
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Drake on October 06, 2015, 03:57:22 AM
moon rabbits replaced the american flags with white flags once they heard humans use white flags to represent surrender
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: monhan on October 06, 2015, 04:40:45 AM
Now *this* is an interesting development in the Touhou "brand". I remember ZUN has always been talking about in interviews how he wanted to help other people in the doujin scene and this is a good platform for doing just that. I will defiantly be interested in how this turns out (especially the world building stuff).

Yesterday, shooting games... Today, a magazine... Tomorrow... An anime?

Also, dose this mean that ZUN thought it would be fun to get involved in magazine printing? I remember ZUN saying that he likes to get into things if he thinks they will be fun to make... like his games.

Your wish may very well be true. Take a look at this, it's just in yesterday:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/45613750.html

Remember the Touhou x Anime Tenchou animation from Ufotable 5 years ago? They're going to publish it now.
At the live stream of Machi★Asobi, Koyama from Animate along with Ufotable, announced the collaboration anime is undergoing packaging for distribution.
Package Cover Art (https://twitter.com/ZAIDAN_K/status/651057558359142400?s=07)

It's also scheduled to air in Japan cinemas on next Sunday, October 11th starting at 3:00 PM in Japan.

EDIT: Futaba thread (http://dec.2chan.net/55/res/5557434.htm) for those interested


This is actually rather sudden, since it originally shouldn't be allowed for public distribution. I wonder what led into this, and whether ZUN knows, since I haven't found any respond from him.
Does this warrant a new thread, or should it just be kept here in case this is bogus?

moon rabbits replaced the american flags with white flags once they heard humans use white flags to represent surrender
Wait, seriously?  :V
On the magazine, I expected it to be full of funny and interesting details. Glad it is true.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Drake on October 06, 2015, 05:01:13 AM
Oh my GOD I have been waiting for this FOREVER (read: since the initial screening). Instant hype!



Wait, seriously?  :V
Nah, but it's a believable in-universe explanation, isn't it? Precedent and all.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Gpop on October 06, 2015, 05:07:55 AM
Your wish may very well be true. Take a look at this, it's just in yesterday:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/45613750.html

Remember the Touhou x Anime Tenchou animation from Ufotable 5 years ago?
They're going to publish it now. At the live stream of Machi★Asobi, Koyama from Animate along with Ufotable, announced the collaboration anime is undergoing packaging for distribution.
Package Cover Art (https://twitter.com/ZAIDAN_K/status/651057558359142400?s=07)

It's also scheduled to air on Cinema on next Sunday, October 11th starting at 3:00 PM in Japan.
OH MY GOD this better be real. I'm the same with Drake, ever since they announced it way back then I've been always been hoping with a slither of hope that they'll release it eventually. Oh god yes.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: kevin1127 on October 06, 2015, 05:19:46 AM
Remember the Touhou x Anime Tenchou animation from Ufotable 5 years ago? They're going to publish it now.
At the live stream of Machi★Asobi, Koyama from Animate along with Ufotable, announced the collaboration anime is undergoing packaging for distribution.
Package Cover Art (https://twitter.com/ZAIDAN_K/status/651057558359142400?s=07)

Is this official anime, ZUN didn't even mention this
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: monhan on October 06, 2015, 05:26:39 AM
Is this official anime, ZUN didn't even mention this

No, it's not. According to this tweet (https://twitter.com/korindo/status/25473377880) 5 years ago, ZUN considers the anime as Animate Doujin product, and he had no bearing in its creation. The original airing itself was kept within limited events under ZUN's wish, and no leak was obtainable. Ever since then, it's never mentioned again and is kept within Ufotable's property.
Thus this isn't an official anime, but it's as official as we can get now since the studio IS Ufotable.

That's why I find the sudden announcement, frankly, suspicious. I sure hope this won't turn into trouble and ends well, since I've always wanted to see it as well.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Drake on October 06, 2015, 05:35:21 AM
It isn't official in the least. This was an OVA produced by ufotable back in 2010 for the 10th anniversary of the anime retailer Animate's mascot, Meito Anizawa. Westerners might recognize him best as having cameos in the Lucky Star anime. For the anniversary there were a bunch of high-quality goodies/events that were made, including two OVAs produced by ufotable, one of them being this Touhou crossover. However, it was only screened specially for a select group and then vanished into the void for various reasons (ZUN's reluctance to having an anime aired, the potential for commercialization, etc), so not very many people saw it. It was pretty highly publicized at the time so it was a great disappointment to Touhou fans for it to remain unaired. The commercialization aspect in particular is one thing that has since changed, as ZUN now seems fairly adjusted to dealing with Touhou-related business propositions, so maybe that's part of why it's resurfacing. Besides the 15th anniversary coming up.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: monhan on October 06, 2015, 06:00:22 AM
The commercialization aspect in particular is one thing that has since changed, as ZUN now seems fairly adjusted to dealing with Touhou-related business propositions, so maybe that's part of why it's resurfacing. Besides the 15th anniversary coming up.

That might be the case. Still waiting for more details to come regarding this announcement.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Fulisha of Light on October 06, 2015, 08:53:21 AM
7. I bet there are people who don't give a fuck at any of those things above but this one: Rinnosuke has an assistant.

Really hope it's a new character. c:
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Sagus on October 06, 2015, 02:40:56 PM
Hah, so Sumireko is going to be ZUN's soapbox this time? Kinda like Kanako was in SoPM.

I mean why else would a teen girl go on a rant about the evils of cellphones otherwise :V
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on October 06, 2015, 03:17:22 PM
Remember the Touhou x Anime Tenchou animation from Ufotable 5 years ago? They're going to publish it now.
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :getdown:
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Suspicious person on October 06, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
Remember the Touhou x Anime Tenchou animation from Ufotable 5 years ago? They're going to publish it now.
Whaaaaaaaa  :o ? I'd watch this !
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project magazine announced
Post by: Flandre5carlet on October 06, 2015, 05:10:38 PM
Remember the Touhou x Anime Tenchou animation from Ufotable 5 years ago? They're going to publish it now.
Not that hyped about this, the art (based on what is seen on the cover art) doesn't really click with me at all - the complete opposite actually, it kind of puts me off - and I'm kinda wary of crossovers of any kind. I'll probably watch it out of curiosity if it is released at all, but I'm not hyped about it...

What I'm much more hype about is
No; he means that Marisa's ending is the "beginning of a new story".
I hope it means it's the beginning of a new "story arc" for Touhou, although I kinda hope it features Sagume and Junko more so than Hecatia.  :V

Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: KegMinami on October 06, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
7. I bet there are people who don't give a fuck at any of those things above but this one: Rinnosuke has an assistant.
(which means either we have a new character, or it's an existing character, some guesses are Tokiko, Marisa, and Nazrin.

Not sure it would be Marisa because A. She and Reimu told Sumireko not to go to the forest, and B. Sumireko would have recognized her. My guess is a new character (that will probably remain nameless), but if I had to choose from existing characters, Tokiko is likely, or maybe one of the random humans from the Human Village stage in HM (namely, the one with the straight bangs that stands near Rinnosuke.)

In any case, thanks for the translation! Of course, with the new anime thing announced as well, I have quite a bit to look forward to.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: HalfGrand on October 10, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
An anime?  :getdown:

... Awww it's just a cross over thing with that Meito Anizawa character that's no where near official. Not hyped, especially when there is already great yet unofficial Touhou Doujin Anime's that are more faithful to the source material (Dose not contain Meito!)

ZUN is required to at least give it his seal of approval before I am even remotely interested. If ZUN works/collaborates with its production himself... hype.

Mark my words... there *will* be a official touhou anime sometime in the future... even if its ages in the future like the 20th anniversary or more. If ZUN is willing to step outside his comfort zone for a magazine and expand like that then it will naturally come, I can just feel it!

We the fans though, have to help make that happen by continuing to support ZUN and make it even more popular. Kind of like how the Metal Gear series would not have reached up to 5 if nobody cared for MGS1.

However, ZUN just dose whatever ZUN wants even if nobody cared for Touhou. He makes the shooting games simply to please himself and doesn't rely on any fan interference to guide how he wants Touhou to develop (based on previous interviews). That is the wild card in all this.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Paty on November 12, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
Someone knows if there is a translation of the CoLA part?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: kevin1127 on November 13, 2015, 02:58:26 AM
Someone knows if there is a translation of the CoLA part?
As far as I know I don't think there is any English translation yet, but I made a brief summary (kind of) in this thread that might give you some information.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: N-Forza on November 13, 2015, 03:06:59 AM
I definitely want to get cracking on it ASAP but work/shipping/life/games/etc...........
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 13, 2015, 05:30:36 AM
shipping

look man i know yuri is grea tbut you gotta get a hold of yourself
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: N-Forza on November 13, 2015, 09:28:42 AM
i will cut u
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: PK on December 15, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
I was reading the LoLK interview on the wiki, and it seems Yukari in Marisa's ending isn't actually the start of a new story (sadly, i'd add). The current translations goes as:

I: "In Marisa's ending, Yukari appears after not having shown herself for all this time."
Z: "It's almost like that should be the opening, right (laugh). Well, since it's Marisa's ending, it's not really clear if that's canon or not. "

Another thing is Hecatia, with:

Z: "She's completely past the level of anyone in Gensokyo or the Lunar Capital."

Is this accurate or at least open to interpretations? It's hard to believe that she's THAT great, and she's later called "just a normal goddess of Hell" :V

Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Shizzo on December 15, 2015, 07:47:41 PM
I was reading the LoLK interview on the wiki, and it seems Yukari in Marisa's ending isn't actually the start of a new story (sadly, i'd add). The current translations goes as:

I: "In Marisa's ending, Yukari appears after not having shown herself for all this time."
Z: "It's almost like that should be the opening, right (laugh). Well, since it's Marisa's ending, it's not really clear if that's canon or not. "

Another thing is Hecatia, with:

Z: "She's completely past the level of anyone in Gensokyo or the Lunar Capital."

Is this accurate or at least open to interpretations? It's hard to believe that she's THAT great, and she's later called "just a normal goddess of Hell" :V

Well Shikieiki is pretty much a judge from hell, so that would make Hecatia, technically speaking, her superior.  She's probably pretty high up as far as ranks go, but the real question is if she is _A_ goddess of hell or _THE_ goddess of hell.

If the latter, we'd have literally touhou satan :V
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: PK on December 15, 2015, 11:56:09 PM
Well Shikieiki is pretty much a judge from hell, so that would make Hecatia, technically speaking, her superior.  She's probably pretty high up as far as ranks go, but the real question is if she is _A_ goddess of hell or _THE_ goddess of hell.
Not going to comment on Shiki here, but lunarians are supposed to be the highest gods around. Being "completely past" ANYONE in the lunar capital is really an absurdly high level.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Plubio on December 16, 2015, 01:33:28 AM
But the real question is if she is _A_ goddess of hell or _THE_ goddess of hell.

Not sure if the rest of the interview is translated, but judging with my copy of the magazine and my Japanese knowledge, ZUN says she's one of the Hell gods and we have yet to see much more from Hell (the "new Hell" not related to the Underground).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: Plubio on May 12, 2016, 12:14:00 PM
Oh dang, looks like I'm double posting.

Not sure if we should create another topic, but SCoOW's second issue is up for preorder in Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4048922319/).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine Announced
Post by: cuc on May 31, 2016, 02:43:46 PM
New information on the second issue from today's (May 31) Nikenme Radio livestream:

Its music CD will include arrangements by ZUN and Uni Akiyama. No new songs.

The magazine will publish a dialogue between the two.

There is a possibility It will be delayed to July.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: cuc on June 14, 2016, 12:23:46 PM
Hooray, it seems Vol. II will come out on time on June 30.

Pre-order bonuses:
Animate: trading card
(http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3gw1f4v0b7s801j207z0b440k.jpg)

Toranoana: file folder
(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3gw1f4v0bajo7gj20go0godid.jpg)

Gamers: file folder
(http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3gw1f4v0bcfkzjj20go0btwhd.jpg)

Melonbooks: file folder
(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3gw1f4v0bejy7ej205k07uq3h.jpg)


Okonogi snapped a pic of Rinnosuke:
(http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3gw1f4v0bhtsiyj21kw1kwdwa.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on June 14, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
Interesting how the bonus material are all about the important characters from EoSD to IN. Maybe the who's who column is about them this time.
I wonder if there will be any ZUN interviews related to games given that he only released Dr. Latency this year.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: cuc on June 17, 2016, 04:05:58 AM
Well it is unlikely to be the only release this year. Because Shanghai Alice will attend Comiket 90 on August 13.
(http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3jw1f4y2llgcz5j20op0b3wfw.jpg)

The unusual thing is that Tasofro will not be attending, for obvious reasons I think. Have they even missed any Summer Comiket before?

ZUN's Comiket catalog circle cut:
(http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3jw1f4y2eex3scj2050074jrr.jpg)

どんな時にも心に潤いを!
Nourishing our hearts whenever it may be!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Romantique Tp on June 17, 2016, 04:54:36 AM
That's exactly the same as his C86 circle cut.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on June 17, 2016, 07:42:15 AM
Yeah, and for that reason, people are thinking he's just going to be "clearing inventory" again.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Plubio on June 19, 2016, 06:07:04 PM
He tends to release two CDs on a year without any games so...
Either way, we'll have to wait.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Buggy on June 21, 2016, 01:55:10 AM
I hope that I can go to comiket once (I want to see ZUN and many dojin circles too) in the lifetime.. sadly  when I travel to japan, it is not the same day that comiket take place orz
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: cuc on June 23, 2016, 11:36:08 AM
In other magazine news, Vol. 6 of the semi-annual Comiket Plus will commemorate Touhou Project's 20th anniversary. It will publish a special interview with ZUN.
(http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw690/be8f9ff3gw1f55dfszjr2j209v0dw762.jpg)

Comiket Plus is a magazine primarily aimed at Comiket beginners. Vol. 6 will come out on July 14.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Sedrife on June 28, 2016, 02:47:52 PM
We have a preview of Touhou Project Magazine vol. 2 from Nikenme Radio.
https://imgur.com/a/MThJX

Three ZUN songs are:

Occult Attract (new)
Retribution for the Eternal Night (TH8 Stage 4)
Last Occultism (Usami Sumireko's Theme)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: SuperVehicle-001 on June 29, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
"If you're looking for an image, it's probably been deleted or may not have existed at all."
whoops

Good thing you put the songs in the post, though. Interested in seeing if Occult Attract is a new song or a mix of Occult a la Carte.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Quwanti on June 29, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
We have a preview of Touhou Project Magazine vol. 2 from Nikenme Radio.
https://imgur.com/a/MThJX

Three ZUN songs are:

Occult Attract (new)
Retribution for the Eternal Night (TH8 Stage 4)
Last Occultism (Usami Sumireko's Theme)
Alternative link (http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tohomemory/imgs/8/a/8ada3cfc.png).
It looks like the second track is called "永夜の報い ~ Pipes(?) and H(?)(?)(?).", and is being done by U2 (like the first track). At least it looks like it says "あきやまうに" in the last line of the second column.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Polaris on June 30, 2016, 03:11:39 AM
Alternative link (http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tohomemory/imgs/8/a/8ada3cfc.png).
It looks like the second track is called "永夜の報い ~ Pipes(?) and H(?)(?)(?).", and is being done by U2 (like the first track). At least it looks like it says "あきやまうに" in the last line of the second column.

Not totally sure but I think it says Pipes and Fiddle.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Plubio on June 30, 2016, 03:19:18 AM
The magazine website (http://tohogairai.dengeki.com/) has been updated (finally).
Looks like Kasen is appearing in the new CoLA chapter. Songs are:

オカルトアトラクト (Occult Attract) (this song seems to be the one used in ULiL's PS4 version trailer)
永夜の報い 〜 Pipes and Fiddle (Retribution for the Eternal Night)
ラストオカルティズム 〜 現し世の秘術師 (Last Occultism)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on June 30, 2016, 04:58:21 AM
occult attract is an arrange of ? la carte after all lmao
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on June 30, 2016, 02:37:33 PM
Amongst all the other features, they have a "cross-review" section where the main characters give their opinion on the bosses of the first three Windows games and it's incredible. Reimu is fantastically ruthless and Youmu is as humble as ever.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on June 30, 2016, 03:04:26 PM
Is Reisen considered a "secondary main character" now, or is she just a boss?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: monhan on June 30, 2016, 03:05:57 PM
Amongst all the other features, they have a "cross-review" section where the main characters give their opinion on the bosses of the first three Windows games and it's incredible. Reimu is fantastically ruthless and Youmu is as humble as ever.

Reimu: "Uuuh... your worth is 1, 1, 1.... okay, you get a 2."
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Prime32 on June 30, 2016, 11:58:47 PM
What is up with Remilia and Cirno on that cover? Remi's hat has ears.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: the old guy on July 01, 2016, 04:16:25 AM
Amongst all the other features, they have a "cross-review" section where the main characters give their opinion on the bosses of the first three Windows games and it's incredible. Reimu is fantastically ruthless and Youmu is as humble as ever.
Did you mean Sakuya instead of Youmu? Clarste started translating them on tvtropes, and i don't see Youmu, at least not in the EOSD section.

Here they are, btw (Note that this is only the EOSD section, clarste hasn't finished yet.):
http://imgur.com/8RI7LTt
http://imgur.com/kTay6ZX

Geez, why does Reimu want to commit genocide on all of the Lunarians? (See Flandre's entry.) I know they're dicks, but....

Also they include Zun's thoughts on them, but that part hasn't finished being translated yet. So thats why they only appear in the second image.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: UTW on July 01, 2016, 05:41:22 AM
Geez, why does Reimu want to commit genocide on all of the Lunarians? (See Flandre's entry.) I know they're dicks, but....

Well, from IN to SSiB to ULiL to LoLK, Lunarian or Lunarian-connected things have gotten her and Gensokyo into their fair share of trouble. She has no love lost for Eirin after LoLK, either.

Of course she should really be blaming Yukari for SSiB. Reimu didn't exactly have her arm twisted into going along with it, either.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: the old guy on July 01, 2016, 06:08:46 AM
Well, from IN to SSiB to ULiL to LoLK, Lunarian or Lunarian-connected things have gotten her and Gensokyo into their fair share of trouble. She has no love lost for Eirin after LoLK, either.
She also threaten to blow up the lunar capital in SSiB. Now, at first you might think that she was just bluffing, but now...
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Clarste on July 01, 2016, 12:59:32 PM
Did you mean Sakuya instead of Youmu? Clarste started translating them on tvtropes, and i don't see Youmu, at least not in the EOSD section.

Youmu comments on IN. I'd imagine it's supposed to be the protagonists of that particular game, limited to three and with Sakuya thrown in for EoSD. If this continues on to MoF and the rest, I would guess that Sanae comments on MoF, Reisen comments on LoLK, etc.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Tiamat on July 01, 2016, 01:03:13 PM
For the Lunarians, according to that WaHH chapter with Reisen, genociding earth is a typical dinner conversation topic.  Yet they never actually do it and when presented with it as an easy option, try to come up with an alternative method first (LoLK), so they're presumably not serious.  Or just... half serious at best.  Reimu is likely the same thing. Characters in Touhou have a weird sense of humour.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on July 01, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
For some reason, Tewi was left out from this.

Edit: also Lily, guess there's no room for midbosses.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Nyxnyx on July 01, 2016, 04:46:39 PM
Did you mean Sakuya instead of Youmu? Clarste started translating them on tvtropes, and i don't see Youmu, at least not in the EOSD section.

Here they are, btw (Note that this is only the EOSD section, clarste hasn't finished yet.):
http://imgur.com/8RI7LTt
http://imgur.com/kTay6ZX

Geez, why does Reimu want to commit genocide on all of the Lunarians? (See Flandre's entry.) I know they're dicks, but....

Also they include Zun's thoughts on them, but that part hasn't finished being translated yet. So thats why they only appear in the second image.

Where did you get those?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: the old guy on July 01, 2016, 07:47:55 PM
Where did you get those?
Tvtropes forums.

But now, heres all of them together, including The Incident Solvers' thoughts on the bosses of PCB and IN:
http://imgur.com/a/DdnqJ
Highlights:
Reimu giving mystria a 8 because she didn't have to see her terrible danmaku.
Youmu giving everything a 7 or a 8. Because she has no idea whats going on. Also Gluttion Yuyuko is canon now.
Sakuya thinking Meiling could have done better, so she gives her an 8.
Reimu giving Marisa a 2, Marisa giving Reimu a 9.

Quote
Not that this is entirely relevant, but the different protagonists seemed to be rating the bosses by completely different standards. Reimu likes a challenge so she rates them by how they stack up against her, Marisa likes to study danmaku so she rates them by how well she?d be able to copy their spellcards, Sakuya seems to ignore the fights entirely and go by her feelings towards the character, and Youmu seems to barely recall the fights at all and rates them all ?okay? while chronicling how she felt at the time.
From Clarste's tumblr.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on July 01, 2016, 09:13:24 PM
Also Gluttion Yuyuko is canon now.
Wasn't it already? In CiLR Yuyuko sees a big lunarian banquet and Youmu says "not even you (Yuyuko) could eat that much", meaning that, at least to Youmu's eyes, Yuyuko actually eats a lot.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Clarste on July 02, 2016, 12:54:05 AM
Here's my final version of the chart, for the record: http://imgur.com/a/wKW2N

I'm sure there are still some problems with it, but it's just a fun little side project until the wiki's translation goes up.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: appleDoom on July 03, 2016, 08:21:48 PM
Wasn't it already? In CiLR Yuyuko sees a big lunarian banquet and Youmu says "not even you (Yuyuko) could eat that much", meaning that, at least to Youmu's eyes, Yuyuko actually eats a lot.
Not to mention her dialogue in IN.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Clarste on July 04, 2016, 07:10:01 AM
Youmu's comments on the chart were pretty much just references to Yuyuko's IN dialog anyway.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Tengukami on July 04, 2016, 11:08:12 AM
Here's my final version of the chart, for the record: http://imgur.com/a/wKW2N

I'm sure there are still some problems with it, but it's just a fun little side project until the wiki's translation goes up.

Excellent stuff. This totally made my morning.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on July 24, 2016, 10:57:55 AM
In other magazine news, Vol. 6 of the semi-annual Comiket Plus will commemorate Touhou Project's 20th anniversary. It will publish a special interview with ZUN.
-

Comiket Plus is a magazine primarily aimed at Comiket beginners. Vol. 6 will come out on July 14.
Any news about this one?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: _dk on September 13, 2016, 08:10:42 AM
The new interview with ZUN and Iruka Unabara (Tasogare Frontier) has been translated. Includes surprisingly frank discussion of how difficult it was to work with each other at first, minor complaints about the finished games, could-have-been characters, quick changes of topics, and ZUN's philosophical ramblings:

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Iruka_Unabara_x_ZUN_interview
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on September 13, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
Quote
The PC version of ULiL is complete by itself, the story ends there. There are no plans to add more stories to that.
(╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Koneko on September 13, 2016, 03:55:18 PM
(╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻

Well, Im done then  \(_ _  ')/
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Sophilia on September 13, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
Actually, this intrigues me even more.  If the plot is an entirely new one, but still working within the frame of the urban legends, I'm wondering where they're headed.  More Lunarian trouble?  Youkai Kosuzu?  The long awaited Wriggle appearance?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on September 14, 2016, 05:01:51 AM
(╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻
And there you have it, folks. Tasofro figuratively punching everyone who supported them and bought the game right in the gut, face, and wherever else that has nerves and can hurt. Literal sellout and completely contrary to doujin principles. Lock new character, stage, music, story behind a console and call it a day. I really wonder how ZUN sleeps at night knowing this happened. To have his franchise monetized and exploited like this. No, I'm not pissed at the fact that an official touhou game has a console port. If they kept the PC version on parity with the PS4 version nobody would have or need a reason to complain. It's the exclusivity and the obvious cash grab that every fan of the series should be aware of and be at least slightly worried about.

I fear for the future of the touhou doujin scene. I really do.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: FearNagae on September 14, 2016, 05:23:32 AM
Can -we- sleep at night knowing that this might happen again in the future? Things are looking really bleak, do people not complain about this? Or do we just have no power to change the decision?

Abandoning the ULiL ship is fine, but man if there's any future release on PS4 the gaming community is done for.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on September 14, 2016, 07:40:30 AM
I'm not sure how having console-exclusive features equates to a slap in the face. This isn't exactly a new thing either, since pretty much every other Vita/PS4 port under PlayDoujin has been modified or enhanced in some way compared to the original PC version. Even the release of Bunny Must Die was redone to fit widescreens. Do they need to go back and add that material in for the PC version as well? Genso Wanderer got a new version released at Comiket that mirrors the console release, but that wasn't free because it still required work to adapt the new content.

It's easy to write this all off as being driven by greed but there's probably a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know about, so moaning and groaning about the "future of doujin culture" like this just comes off as entitled. (Protip: no one is forcing devs of Touhou games to go with this against their will). Besides, ZUN has already said he's not going to release a game on the PS4, so there won't be anything remotely official unless it has Tasogare's backing like this.

Also, I'm sure ZUN would sleep well knowing he can provide for his family. I'm not even sure why he needs to feel guilty about breaking totally arbitrary standards. It's not like Comiket or Reitaisai will start to flounder as a result of this flagrant "cash grab". Why not blame Nasu Kinoko for the money drain that is FGO?

I'm not saying "shut up and appreciate what you're getting" but don't assume so much just because you don't like the outcome.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: _dk on September 14, 2016, 07:44:11 AM
The context for that line, if I didn't make that clear, was about the story as presented on the PC version of ULiL. Iruka is saying the extra PS4 story is not going to be adding to the PC story since that's considered complete. In my opinion, he makes no suggestion about whether the PS4 content will come to the PC version.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: the old guy on September 14, 2016, 07:50:55 AM
Actually, this intrigues me even more.  If the plot is an entirely new one, but still working within the frame of the urban legends, I'm wondering where they're headed.  More Lunarian trouble?  Youkai Kosuzu?  The long awaited Wriggle appearance?

You misunderstand. ZUN is saying that the new content wont be on the pc. Only the PS.

Which is FUCKING BULLSHIT.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on September 14, 2016, 08:25:45 AM
?_(ツ)_/?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: FearNagae on September 14, 2016, 08:27:41 AM
I'm not sure how having console-exclusive features equates to a slap in the face. This isn't exactly a new thing either, since pretty much every other Vita/PS4 port under PlayDoujin has been modified or enhanced in some way compared to the original PC version. Even the release of Bunny Must Die was redone to fit widescreens. Do they need to go back and add that material in for the PC version as well? Genso Wanderer got a new version released at Comiket that mirrors the console release, but that wasn't free because it still required work to adapt the new content.

It's easy to write this all off as being driven by greed but there's probably a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know about, so moaning and groaning about the "future of doujin culture" like this just comes off as entitled. (Protip: no one is forcing devs of Touhou games to go with this against their will). Besides, ZUN has already said he's not going to release a game on the PS4, so there won't be anything remotely official unless it has Tasogare's backing like this.

Also, I'm sure ZUN would sleep well knowing he can provide for his family. I'm not even sure why he needs to feel guilty about breaking totally arbitrary standards. It's not like Comiket or Reitaisai will start to flounder as a result of this flagrant "cash grab". Why not blame Nasu Kinoko for the money drain that is FGO?

I'm not saying "shut up and appreciate what you're getting" but don't assume so much just because you don't like the outcome.

I'm not even calling this anything like greed. This is however very worrying for several communities, including mine. The effect is already there in that nobody even feels like playing ULiL anymore because why would someone play an incomplete abandoned game competitively? A more realistic comparison would be BlazBlue; nobody is really bothered to take seriously anyone who are only playing the outdated games.

Whether ZUN could sleep well or not was not the problem; I'm happy he could net more cash but sacrificing a storyline and character equates to abandoning the PC version of ULiL. The best outcome would obviously to release at both PC and PS4 without abandoning either one.

And I'm not assuming an outcome, I am already witnessing an effect. And I fear the future. In fact ZUN's games are the ones that people probably won't mind being ported to PS4, because they are supposed to be played alone. Tasofro's games are not the same, not everyone has a PS4 and yet we need to play it with someone else who also has a PS4. What are the chances that you and your friend you usually play soku with both has a PS4?

Please do not assume everyone is unhappy he's making more profit. I certainly am glad for it, but the side-effect of this is what I'm concerned. It should have been avoided by not giving PS4 only material, or at least, let us have the character.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on September 14, 2016, 08:34:39 AM
The context for that line, if I didn't make that clear, was about the story as presented on the PC version of ULiL. Iruka is saying the extra PS4 story is not going to be adding to the PC story since that's considered complete. In my opinion, he makes no suggestion about whether the PS4 content will come to the PC version.
For all our sakes, I hope it really is a misunderstanding as you said.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on September 14, 2016, 09:19:09 AM
I'm not even calling this anything like greed. This is however very worrying for several communities, including mine. The effect is already there in that nobody even feels like playing ULiL anymore because why would someone play an incomplete abandoned game competitively? A more realistic comparison would be BlazBlue; nobody is really bothered to take seriously anyone who are only playing the outdated games.
Why does ZUN/Tasogare have a responsibility to foster a competitive community, particularly in countries their games aren't officially sold in? If you're concerned about playing games just to have a scene, stick to SF5 or Melee. And nothing's stopping you from importing.

Whether ZUN could sleep well or not was not the problem; I'm happy he could net more cash but sacrificing a storyline and character equates to abandoning the PC version of ULiL. The best outcome would obviously to release at both PC and PS4 without abandoning either one.
So how long would they have to wait before you would be OK with them "abandoning" a game? And while it would be nice if they were to transfer the new stuff to PC, that probably takes more effort than is feasible for them at the moment. They're still indie studios for all intents and purposes, so they can't always work on projects in tandem. Maybe they just don't want to announce anything either way until the game is released, for whatever reason. Game dev can be a strange thing.

And I'm not assuming an outcome, I am already witnessing an effect. And I fear the future. In fact ZUN's games are the ones that people probably won't mind being ported to PS4, because they are supposed to be played alone. Tasofro's games are not the same, not everyone has a PS4 and yet we need to play it with someone else who also has a PS4. What are the chances that you and your friend you usually play soku with both has a PS4?
There is no effect because the game isn't even out yet. And I could rephrase that question to say "What are the chances that you and your friend you usually play Monster Hunter with both have a PC?" Remember, they have Japan's market in mind first and foremost, so they have to account for the fact that gaming-capable PCs are much less common than consoles.

Please do not assume everyone is unhappy he's making more profit. I certainly am glad for it, but the side-effect of this is what I'm concerned. It should have been avoided by not giving PS4 only material, or at least, let us have the character.
I was mostly upset that others were calling him greedy, not you. I admit I also think at least adding Reisen to the PC version could be within their purview, but I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. This perceived exclusivity could even be something stipulated by Sony for all we know.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: FearNagae on September 14, 2016, 09:51:58 AM
Why does ZUN/Tasogare have a responsibility to foster a competitive community, particularly in countries their games aren't officially sold in? If you're concerned about playing games just to have a scene, stick to SF5 or Melee. And nothing's stopping you from importing.
I do not have enough information however I recall this is a problem in japan as well. Anyway I am not implying they have the responsiblity to take care of a community. It should be in their interest to keep people from getting pissed, but that is another thing. However assuming people can just move into another game is silly. You can't just tell someone playing X game to play another franchise of the same genre. That's like saying people who are mad at LoL should move to DotA because they're the same anyway.

The problem here is not scene or whatever, but the game is updated and we are locked from the new version. Obviously, I don't see people going to like playing an outdated game.

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So how long would they have to wait before you would be OK with them "abandoning" a game? And while it would be nice if they were to transfer the new stuff to PC, that probably takes more effort than is feasible for them at the moment. They're still indie studios for all intents and purposes, so they can't always work on projects in tandem. Maybe they just don't want to announce anything either way until the game is released, for whatever reason. Game dev can be a strange thing.
Perhaps abandon was not the right word to use. Had they made a soku expansion for PS4, people would still be mad. There's no time limit, that is not the problem.
I sure hope they're just not announcing it and were in doubts.

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There is no effect because the game isn't even out yet. And I could rephrase that question to say "What are the chances that you and your friend you usually play Monster Hunter with both have a PC?" Remember, they have Japan's market in mind first and foremost, so they have to account for the fact that gaming-capable PCs are much less common than consoles.
A single line of confirmation that they had no intention to update the PC version was enough for people to drop the game.
The problem here is we are playing at one console and then both of us are expected to have another console if we want to play the new version. I might have failed to understand the Monster Hunter example but I don't think that is the case.

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I was mostly upset that others were calling him greedy, not you. I admit I also think at least adding Reisen to the PC version could be within their purview, but I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. This perceived exclusivity could even be something stipulated by Sony for all we know.
It is somewhat inevitable that people would be pissed. Some people bought the game, and now a huge portion of the playerbase doesn't feel like playing it anymore because again, who would willingly play a game that is supposed to be played competitively without even having the latest version? You would be playing a game that you're supposed to play with someone else, but the other players aren't actually playing the same game with you anymore.

An expansion disk would help.

I honestly don't mind not being able to play anyone with the two ULiL CD I have, but man things are looking bleak. The worst part is I could just buy a PS4 and I'd still have no one to play with.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Sophilia on September 14, 2016, 11:03:02 AM
Well, from what I'm seeing, it seems kind of clear that they're considering this an entirely separate game from PC ULiL.  It's not like it's just slap in Reisen character and story mode, and move on.  It's its own thing, even though they're retaining the name.
And yeah, I agree that the probable result will be that play moves to the new game. That's just how fighting games are in general.  But to me at least, it seems less of "the other version of Street Fighter with Dan in it," and more "the new Street Fighter game."
In short, keeping the same name has really got us all making some dumb assumptions.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Koneko on September 14, 2016, 11:29:52 AM
Well, from what I'm seeing, it seems kind of clear that they're considering this an entirely separate game from PC ULiL.  It's not like it's just slap in Reisen character and story mode, and move on.  It's its own thing, even though they're retaining the name.

But, again, if it still has everything from PC ULiL, then it's still PC ULiL 
Plus the other contents that the PC wont have
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on September 14, 2016, 04:19:40 PM
The context for that line, if I didn't make that clear, was about the story as presented on the PC version of ULiL. Iruka is saying the extra PS4 story is not going to be adding to the PC story since that's considered complete. In my opinion, he makes no suggestion about whether the PS4 content will come to the PC version.
Ah, that's another way to read it, let's hope you're right then :q
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: SuperVehicle-001 on September 14, 2016, 08:49:37 PM
I really wonder how ZUN sleeps at night knowing this happened. To have his franchise monetized and exploited like this.

I think ZUN is perfectly aware of what's happening and he's most likely the one that greenlit the "dude let's keep all the new shit in the ps4" idea in the first place. I don't like this any more than you do, but let's not act like ZUN is not involved with it.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: notext on September 14, 2016, 09:48:53 PM
It's entirely in keeping with ZUN's MO - he'd rather make something new rather than just porting it over to another platform. Which is why he's never felt the need to port his games to console (and he has been asked) or to localise the games. But when Touhou doujin games are coming out in new avenues he does feel the need to have the official games represented (e.g the Playism release of TH14, and its "international" release).

So here we have Touhou games coming out on Playstation, where the conversation will have been something like:

Sony: We'd like to start a programme for doujin games on Playstation, and would like Touhou games to be a part of that.
ZUN: Do I have to do anything?
Sony: Well, you don't have to, but...
ZUN: *Thumbs Up*

But he ultimately does want an official Touhou presence on there, and ULiL is the natural candidate. And there will be new content, because that's what keeps it interesting if additional work is necessary (and it is definitely necessary), but it won't necessarily be backported, because that's boring and there are other things that ZUN (and presumably Tasofro) would rather be doing.

None of which is setting any kind of "precedent", of course. ZUN clearly has no intention of developing primarily for consoles himself, and if Tasofro did then... well, presumably the releases would either be contemporaneous or there would only be one release so there'd be no split. Unless doujin developers started using the comiket release as a staging ground for the later console release, and I can see that backfiring quite quickly.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Sophilia on September 14, 2016, 11:10:36 PM
But, again, if it still has everything from PC ULiL

That's the assumption I was talking about.  When neither ZUN nor his collaborations with Tasofro have ever worked that way, and ZUN has spoken against just reissuing old content many times.
When transitioning from SWR to Soku, within the same engine, it wasn't just adding in the new girls.  Spells were replaced, the old stories were left in the old game, bosses had a different mechanic, and the deck system itself was retooled.
Even within this interview, they talk about stratifying the games with different mechanics and gameplay, so the player can play what appeals to them.
So when ZUN follows up with "it won't just be a simple port," and "There's a chance you won't understand it without playing LoLK," I don't think he's just talking about the Reisen stuff.  In short, expect some big changes.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Clarste on September 15, 2016, 07:23:40 AM
When he says ULiL is "complete" on the PC he's clearly talking about the story. In other words, Sumireko's storyline is complete and Reisen's PS4 story isn't a direct continuation of that. Which is basically saying you don't need to buy the PS4 version to have a complete version of the game. Reisen's storyline will be a weird standalone thing like Hisoutensoku, and you won't be missing any part of ULiL by not playing it. That's all he was saying.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Koneko on September 15, 2016, 01:29:16 PM
When he says ULiL is "complete" on the PC he's clearly talking about the story. In other words, Sumireko's storyline is complete and Reisen's PS4 story isn't a direct continuation of that. Which is basically saying you don't need to buy the PS4 version to have a complete version of the game. Reisen's storyline will be a weird standalone thing like Hisoutensoku, and you won't be missing any part of ULiL by not playing it. That's all he was saying.

Which doesnt solve the issue: If one still want to experience the new contents, they'll basicly have to move to another platform, or go suicide watch
And dont compare it to Soku, it's nothing like that at all (With Soku at least you can still get to play the thing without spending extra money for a cash-grab console)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Clarste on September 16, 2016, 05:26:57 AM
Touhou has always been split up onto lots of different things. If you want to follow all the manga and whatnot, you'd need to subscribe to at least three different magazines.

As for Hisoutensoku, I was comparing the story content but apparently you don't actually care about the story? So what are you complaining about? If you really absolutely must see the story, but can't afford a PS4, then you can just watch an LP on youtube or something. Like practically every other game in existence. Heck, the script itself will definitely be uploaded onto the wiki, where I'd imagine a lot of people experience the stories anyway.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Koneko on September 16, 2016, 07:46:48 AM
Sure you can find the story if you want to, I was talking about actually playing throught the story, and yeah, there's really no workaround for that by now
And not just the story, but the character herself, too (If ZUN doesnt want to add her to PC either, which likely to happen)
...
I mean, I move on, but, really ? Next time I see ZUN working with Tasofro, I'd rather shut myself in agony rather than guessing what content they will and will not bring in the game, so they can re-release it later on -_-
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on September 16, 2016, 08:27:33 AM
I still don't think what they did constitutes this much melodrama, to be honest.

And I'm sure that Tasogare certainly going to miss your continued patronage, assuming you even purchased a physical copy of ULiL in the first place.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on September 16, 2016, 09:01:58 AM
i'm so mad that i'm never gonna buy any of tasofro's future games, unlike the existing games that i totally bought
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Nyxnyx on September 16, 2016, 10:28:52 AM
I still don't think what they did constitutes this much melodrama, to be honest.

And I'm sure that Tasogare certainly going to miss your continued patronage, assuming you even purchased a physical copy of ULiL in the first place.

Just exactly what I thought. I don't think this whole PS4 exclusive content drama should happened in the first place, but it happened.

All this makes it seems like it's the developers fault which I don't think that's the case.

They just want to expand the reach of touhou games and since Zun doesn't want the completely same game in the console, he just added something, there.



Still, the bottom-line of the story is that you're going to pay if you want to experience the story beyond reading it on a wiki, something that should be normal on every game.

Yet this whole drama says like it should not be like that. Go figure.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Critz on September 16, 2016, 05:30:21 PM
Well, I'm not as mad at not getting Reisen herself - I already got my fix of her in a superior fighter.  :V

What *does* irk me is the lack of crossplay. ULiL doesn't really have the player base to spare for another version that is incompatible with the more easily accessible one.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: FearNagae on September 16, 2016, 06:39:29 PM
Can I trade one of my ULiL CD with a PS4 one?

Damn, even if I bought a PS4 just for this, PS4 is still very hard to setup for meetups and we'd not be able to play anyways.

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What *does* irk me is the lack of crossplay. ULiL doesn't really have the player base to spare for another version that is incompatible with the more easily accessible one.
Yeah I mentioned this is one of my biggest issue with this. As a side effect nobody would be bothered to play the previous version as well.
Though well, I guess stick to soku as always.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on September 16, 2016, 06:44:38 PM
That still kind of suggests that Tasofro somehow doesn't have their own interest in keeping as much of their playerbase as possible. Like as if they never thought no crossplay would be a problem and then whoops turns out one of the most obvious decisions ever cripples their game how did that happen. I doubt that's the case.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: FearNagae on September 16, 2016, 06:48:35 PM
That still kind of suggests that Tasofro somehow doesn't have their own interest in keeping as much of their playerbase as possible. Like as if they never thought no crossplay would be a problem and then whoops turns out one of the most obvious decisions ever cripples their game how did that happen. I doubt that's the case.

iirc it was implied they couldn't make it. But in the first place, ULiL playerbase is very tiny to begin with, so maybe they just decide to sacrifice this or even went to PS4 to cover their deficit. And I wouldn't say that is wrong, but still...
They usually their playerbase quite fine, but I guess shit happens.

Though of course this is just one of the assumption. They obviously do not harbor ill intentions or trying to ignore their playerbase, so this could be one of their attempt at grabbing more players (which went wrong).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Critz on September 16, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
That still kind of suggests that Tasofro somehow doesn't have their own interest in keeping as much of their playerbase as possible. Like as if they never thought no crossplay would be a problem and then whoops turns out one of the most obvious decisions ever cripples their game how did that happen. I doubt that's the case.
Obviously, I was saying that it sucks from the perspective of the fans. If this port ends up making them money despite the lack of crossplay, good for them. Especially if it helps them make a proper next game for their main fanbase. If not, it's not like they lost too many manhours programming and spiriting a single character to begin with.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on September 16, 2016, 09:00:10 PM
Both of you are still assuming that they're losing players at all. Obviously from our standpoint where PS4 ownership isn't that great and a JP PSN account would be required, a lot of overseas players won't end up playing for one reason or another, which is where 90% of this drama is even coming from. But the console situation is different in Japan, and this should be immediately apparent from the decision to publish towards console releases as opposed to the west whose trend has largely been towards moving traditionally-console games onto the PC, where specs have a high ceiling and average, and centralization of users is a major factor. If the climate were the same as in the US, PlayDoujin's model wouldn't be what it is. It is entirely possible that there could even be a net gain in players, and yet people seem to be convinced that this was a losing decision right out of the gate.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Clarste on September 16, 2016, 10:57:27 PM
To be fair, the PS4 isn't exactly doing hot in Japan either, and I'd imagine at least half the point of the Play Doujin push is to get more people to buy PS4s.

If not, it's not like they lost too many manhours programming and spiriting a single character to begin with.
In regards to the workload though, porting a game isn't easy at all for a small group that's never done it before. Unless they specifically coded it in a way designed to be easily ported, which I doubt they did, then they basically have to start from scratch. And to top it off they have to get used to whatever programming idiosyncrasies the PS4 almost certainly has, that again none of them would be familiar with. It's a huge project on their part that marks a desire to expand their horizons and skillsets.

This is kind of exactly why ZUN said he'd never consider doing it on his own. It's just an awful lot of work that isn't as visible to the audience, that he'd much rather spend making something entirely new.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on September 17, 2016, 12:10:45 AM
To be fair, the PS4 isn't exactly doing hot in Japan either, and I'd imagine at least half the point of the Play Doujin push is to get more people to buy PS4s.
Sure, but the fairness is in not assuming the playerbase will be decimated from poor ownership when the only complaints I've seen of that is from our side.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: FearNagae on September 17, 2016, 01:39:35 AM
Well, the game is already dead in Japan. I didn't mention poor ownership of PS4 as a reason to the game dying. But I'll stop here because it isn't really a big deal anyways.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: _dk on September 20, 2016, 08:04:18 AM
There's a lot of confusion and negativity about Tasofro for some reason. So I translated their interview from the first issue of the magazine in 2015:

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Urban_Legend_in_Limbo_interview_with_Iruka_Unabara
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on September 20, 2016, 09:56:22 AM
Well, the game is already dead in Japan. I didn't mention poor ownership of PS4 as a reason to the game dying.
"The things you call dead haven't yet had the chance to be born." -- Scatman John
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on September 28, 2016, 01:36:33 PM
So, today's Nikenme Radio might be more interesting than I expected.

EDIT: Moved to new thread! https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19900.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on December 26, 2016, 08:55:30 PM
Since i don't see this anywhere here, have some info from TH Project Archival (https://www.facebook.com/Touhou763) about Dec 23 Nikenme Radio.
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Just a quick report for now. Summary of an offline event "Nikenme Radio VR" that ZUN participated in on the 23rd.

1. Volume 3 of Strange Creators of Outer World is scheduled to be released on March 2nd next year.
2. The cover art features Reimu and Kasen
3. Based on ZUN's words during the event, apparently there'll be a new game from him before AoCF comes out. He's currently working on both games in parallel.
4. He also mentioned that he'll be releasing new stuffs on a faster pace for 2017

More informations about this will probably be revealed on the next Nikenme Radio event.

Source: https://twitter.com/korindo/status/812204212431900672

-CurrentlyBusy,SoSorryForTheMinimalDetails-Monhan

Good to know!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: ZM on December 26, 2016, 09:24:40 PM
Considering ZUN hasn't worked on two sidegames at once since 2010, and there's already a two year gap between main games (LoLK in 2015, and now the new game coming in 2017), it's safe to assume that this game he's working on alongside AoCF is th16!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Failure McFailFace on December 27, 2016, 05:31:05 AM
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3. Based on ZUN's words during the event, apparently there'll be a new game from him before AoCF comes out. He's currently working on both games in parallel.
FINALLY
something that's not a fighting game or a ludicrously hard shooter
ddc is still pretty hard
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Camilo113 on December 27, 2016, 06:17:45 PM
FINALLY
something that's not a fighting game or a ludicrously hard shooter
ddc is still pretty hard
Curious how you assumed the game was not going to be hard based on the information.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Failure McFailFace on December 27, 2016, 06:28:21 PM
Curious how you assumed the game was not going to be hard based on the information.
At this point, it's just wishful thinking for an easier Touhou game.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: notext on December 29, 2016, 10:57:43 PM
Curious how you assumed the game was not going to be hard based on the information.

While we don't know anything for certain, based on interviews with ZUN it seems likely that LoLK's difficulty level was specific to that game, rather than something that he is likely to pursue more generally.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Failure McFailFace on December 30, 2016, 02:56:22 AM
While we don't know anything for certain, based on interviews with ZUN it seems likely that LoLK's difficulty level was specific to that game, rather than something that he is likely to pursue more generally.
Well, then again, SA to TD were leaning heavily to the "hard" side of difficulty, dialed back for DDC, then back to hard for LoLK.

I'm just hoping fro a game that I can 1cc normal easily eventually.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Helepolis on December 30, 2016, 08:20:14 AM
I'm just hoping fro a game that I can 1cc normal easily eventually.
Imagine if you had to effort to beat a challenging game.

What is it with people these days who want to beat every game quickly with minimum effort. So does beating a ~30min on your first try give you that satisfaction? Unlocking Extra and beating Extra also on the first try? The complaints will never end because everybody is a critic and a better game designer.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Marron on December 30, 2016, 10:18:01 AM
I think a game that has a balanced difficulty would be what I would like the most. I mean, imo TD was cool because you weren't "forced" to abuse some sort of game mechanism like DDC's bomb, LOLK's life, UFOS'...ufo. I mean, okay, you could play those games on hard, sure but you can hardly 1CC them on luna without spamming the game mechanisms. It's not new, actually it was already the case with PCB and the supernatural border, but it was less active and clearing the game on luna without supernatural border is not impossible.

I love MS, EOSD and SA because you mostly have to rely on your skills and memory of the paterns, not game mechanisms.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on December 30, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
In TD you get basically twice the resource parts with Trance and you have to know where to use it. In DDC you can get 2.0s all day without bombs perfectly fine, even if you still have to be able to get around the patterns (which is what you're advocating for?). MS you have to run all over to grab all the point items (as also in PCB), plus you have rank. EoSD has literally no mechanic to even consider besides rank because regular play gets you all the resources. SA does little besides having a pool of resources for you and taking away those resources for dying. UFO showers you with resources if you can game it and even conservatively gives you resources comparable to other games, plus screen clears; you just have to not kill yourself when being aggressive (which again, is what you want?)

You always have to play to the mechanics. All of these mechanics force you to play to them to some degree (besides EoSD). I'm not sure if you're really talking about the mechanics or the games' raw difficulties or what but this doesn't seem right to me at all.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Serela on December 30, 2016, 03:26:16 PM
No, I get that. Collecting falling point items is, sure, playing to the mechanic, but it doesn't get in the way much.. DDC on the other hand wants you to jump into PoC every 10 seconds even though the screen is flooded with bullets. Often it's a choice of using a bomb to get that life piece, making a very dangerous dodge, or just watching your potential life piece sink down the drain- wheras in the score/item based games the points you can't pick up due to safety generally don't even result in any missed resources. Even UFO doesn't take much dangerous play in comparison.

TBH DDC's is the only one that bothers me much though. I liked LoLK's graze system and my issue with UFO isn't the system so much as it's INSANELY HARD "balanced" by DROWNING IN A MILLION RESOURCES. I love UFO, it's got really neat/fun spellcards and stuff, but dang is it hard. MarisaB where you can't kill everything with a bomb makes it clear.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Marron on December 30, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
Yeah Serela, that's what I was trying to say. So, as for the next game, I would really appreciate a game that reuse the simple "falling items" thing, or if there should be a new system of collecting bonuses, something like TD(yeah, the mechanics of that game didn't really disturb me).

As much as I would like to get a Phantasmagoria, it would be asking too much since Zun doesn't seem to be intetested by these kind of games anymore.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: ZM on December 30, 2016, 04:55:07 PM
Imagine if you had to effort to beat a challenging game.

What is it with people these days who want to beat every game quickly with minimum effort. So does beating a ~30min on your first try give you that satisfaction? Unlocking Extra and beating Extra also on the first try? The complaints will never end because everybody is a critic and a better game designer.

Not like LoLK is difficult to clear, anyway. Reisen's bomb is insanely good for tanking and Sanae bombskips everything in the game with ease. Pattern-wise it's the toughest, but the game gives you a plethora of resources that it's one of the simplest clears.

th16 should be easier than LoLK pattern-wise, though.

I liked LoLK's graze system and my issue with UFO isn't the system so much as it's INSANELY HARD "balanced" by DROWNING IN A MILLION RESOURCES. I love UFO, it's got really neat/fun spellcards and stuff, but dang is it hard. MarisaB where you can't kill everything with a bomb makes it clear.

UFO is pretty difficult, yes. MarisaB's bomb, though, is more of a resource bomb than a bombskipping one. That's why it's insanely good on stages and really poor against bosses.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Mino ☆ on December 30, 2016, 05:22:31 PM
No, I get that. Collecting falling point items is, sure, playing to the mechanic, but it doesn't get in the way much.. DDC on the other hand wants you to jump into PoC every 10 seconds even though the screen is flooded with bullets. Often it's a choice of using a bomb to get that life piece, making a very dangerous dodge, or just watching your potential life piece sink down the drain- wheras in the score/item based games the points you can't pick up due to safety generally don't even result in any missed resources. Even UFO doesn't take much dangerous play in comparison.

Part of the fun in DDC is learning the routes to get better resources. A lot of those dangerous bonuses aren't dangerous once you go into practice, watch replays, and really learn the tricks to get them. Some of them are meant to be bombed, yes (for example, the spam section in stage 4), but even then, there are shottypes who can reasonably collect many 2.0s even without bombing (ReimuA). If you're still having trouble, DDC spoils the player with utterly broken shottypes like SakuyaA who can cheese bosses by slowing them down and making them fire at a lesser rate. And MarisaB who can basically completely destroy to game by getting endless 2.0s.

I think that DDC's system was a very unique idea and it was clear that ZUN was trying new things. The whole "number of items" you collect during PoCs can be very interesting especially when you can chain multiple bonuses for lots of resources (like getting back to back 2.0s and such). It even shows its brilliance in scoreplay with chains like the stage 5 post-midboss 2.0 chain with ReimuA.

If anything, I'd complain that DDC is too generous with the resources, as it can turn into a bombspammy broken mess very easily. But alas, such is the way.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: TresserT on December 30, 2016, 05:40:42 PM
Honestly, I said the same thing shortly after LoLK came out. "I hope the next game is a breather from the insane difficulty". I don't think anyone wants a game that they can beat in 30 minutes. I think what they're saying is, "I want a game like MS/EoSD/SA. A game that you can beat without resource abuse."

In UFO/DDC/LoLK, unless you're a *super player*, you're really forced to bombspam/ufo spam if you want to have any hope of clearing the game. Actually capturing some patterns is way beyond the skill level of most people. In comparison, SA/EoSD/MS have easier patterns but have less of a focus on resource spam.

Granted LoLK is a super fun game imo, it'd just be nice to have a more straightforward game that most people can beat without having to bomb every pattern for a change. Just for a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Chill Observer on December 30, 2016, 05:45:58 PM
I have to agree. Bullet hells aren't even bullet hells if all you do is just bombspam everything and 1cc anyway. Nowadays I can 1cc normal in 1 try, bombspam or not, and I can't even do lunatic yet.

Most games do give enough resources to let you do that, keep that in mind! I want to rely less on resources and more on dodging since that's where the fun lies.

There's a reason people love to do things like no bomb, or no miss, or both at the same time.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Das on December 30, 2016, 06:00:32 PM
just give me a good game
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: game2011 on January 01, 2017, 03:16:24 PM
Totally (not) looking forward to hearing Sakurei complain about this new game when it's finally revealed and lament about the death of the series!  Oh wait, she's banned, so we won't hear from her here anymore.

just give me a good game
And the last good game was?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on January 01, 2017, 03:27:53 PM
And the last good game was?
It doesn't matter what they think the last good game was. It's just a simply-put response to the clamor about mechanics.

And how about let's not cowardly attack other people who can't reply back, hm? With strawmen, no less?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: game2011 on January 01, 2017, 10:52:27 PM
It doesn't matter what they think the last good game was. It's just a simply-put response to the clamor about mechanics.

And how about let's not cowardly attack other people who can't reply back, hm? With strawmen, no less?
I'd do it even if she was around.

And I've never really understood the "attacking from behind means cowardice" mindset.  I think doing that is being smart and not wasting unnecessary effort.  Batman attacks his opponents from behind all the time, and you don't see anyone accusing him of being a coward.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Romantique Tp on January 02, 2017, 02:11:44 AM
What Batman does has nothing to do with attacking banned users for no reason. Sakurei is no saint, but what you're doing isn't cool.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Zigzagwolf on January 02, 2017, 12:08:40 PM
Fairly certain Das was just joking and some of you guys feel like it matters more than it did so don't worry much about it?

Personally I did enjoy DDC as of the last few game releases, I also liked LoLK but mainly for scoring the easier difficulties, going for 1cc seemed to indeed be a bit of a bombspamfest to me...

Would be nice to see a new game being released, hopefully one that's a bit tough (doesn't give many resources, think of CAVE shooters for example here) but also fun to score.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: TableCloth on January 05, 2017, 04:40:10 AM
Would be nice to see a new game being released, hopefully one that's a bit tough (doesn't give many resources, think of CAVE shooters for example here) but also fun to score.
This, and prolly a game with patterns that are actually fun to dodge. I mean, Touhou 13 was still good, but I'd have dropped Touhou 14 if not for the good music and the first 3 bosses, and I don't remember ever playing Touhou 15 other than for showing off.

Something that can surpass SA and UFO in both difficulty and fun would make this year awesome.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Plubio on February 03, 2017, 11:04:04 PM
Third issue preorder is already up on Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E5%A4%96%E4%BE%86%E9%9F%8B%E7%B7%A8-Strange-Creators-Outer-World/dp/4048926381).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Plubio on February 24, 2017, 02:10:44 PM
Oh damn double post time.

Here's (https://twitter.com/tohonetwork/status/835099964791386112/photo/1) third issue cover art.
I can't barely read anything that's not "arrange" but black font says "東方Project書籍の流儀" ("Touhou Project Style Books". Yeah not very clear lol)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: ZM on March 02, 2017, 03:42:16 AM
Patiently waiting for the next part of the boss ratings. That was easily the best and most interesting part of the previous volume.

Also any Sanae content would be pretty sugoi, too.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on March 02, 2017, 05:52:28 AM
Man, this completely snuck up on me. I'm going to have to pick it up next time I'm in town.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on March 02, 2017, 06:11:53 PM
Patiently waiting for the next part of the boss ratings. That was easily the best and most interesting part of the previous volume.

Also any Sanae content would be pretty sugoi, too.
Looks like there's no cross review this time, but the who's who column includes the early stage bosses of TH 6-7-8 that weren't there last time.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: ZM on March 02, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
Looks like there's no cross review this time, but the who's who column includes the early stage bosses of TH 6-7-8 that weren't there last time.

Aw, rats. Here's to next time.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on March 25, 2017, 01:12:25 PM
PoriPori Club today!
Quote
ZUN (https://twitter.com/korindo/status/845589362498715648): Today I've been abruptly called to attend PoriPori Club. I'm kind of right in the middle of crunch time though
Crunch time for what, hmm? Definitely not for a Reitaisai work as was predicted, couldn't be

(It actually might still be Bunka Shinpou but that's cutting it a bit close)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on March 25, 2017, 03:36:10 PM
He actually received the preview copy of the book a day or two ago so yeah, probably the game.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on September 04, 2017, 07:13:38 PM
SCoOW 4 incoming (https://www.facebook.com/Touhou763/photos/a.1638788799742158.1073741827.1638787029742335/1948371042117264/?type=3).

Edit: according to Makoto Hirasaka there will be an interview with him too.
https://twitter.com/hirasaka8/status/910423470609121280

Also apparently he said the next VFiS chapter
will not have the fairies.
https://twitter.com/hirasaka8/status/911478369736302592

Can't figure out what the second half of the tweet actually means.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on October 11, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
I'll just leave it here
https://twitter.com/gamers_no_gema/status/917622561067868161
Double post :v

Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on October 12, 2017, 02:46:43 AM
Can't figure out what the second half of the tweet actually means.
Hirasaka is having hand tremors from withdrawal (presumably from smoking), but a new character will be introduced as well as interesting new developments so he hopes you enjoy the chapter.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: game2011 on October 12, 2017, 05:23:48 AM
I'll just leave it here
https://twitter.com/gamers_no_gema/status/917622561067868161
Double post :v


Yay for official Aki!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on October 12, 2017, 05:40:18 AM
It's as official as any other store-exclusive bonus item, i.e. not? The art is almost definitely commissioned by the stores alone, aiming to sell copies of the product over other stores.

the "official"-ness of guest art in works is pretty questionable anyways
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: game2011 on October 13, 2017, 04:30:27 PM
The fact it appeared in an official print media is official enough for me.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: MrNoobomnenie on November 08, 2017, 04:59:20 AM
Any information about ZUN's HSiFS interview?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on February 22, 2018, 11:22:13 PM
SCoOW 5 ought to be released at the end of March.

https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/321712000162/

Are they trying to make a map of Gensokyo?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: VividMemory2000 on February 26, 2018, 06:06:30 PM
SCoOW 5 ought to be released at the end of March.

https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/321712000162/

Are they trying to make a map of Gensokyo?

That would be nice if that were to happen
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on March 26, 2018, 12:00:41 PM
Cover preview i suppose
https://twitter.com/chiba_sama/status/976712821013585920

Only 4 days left before it comes out. Is it normal that online shops still don't show the cover in the product page?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: VividMemory2000 on March 26, 2018, 05:19:51 PM
Cover preview i suppose
https://twitter.com/chiba_sama/status/976712821013585920

Only 4 days left before it comes out. Is it normal that online shops still don't show the cover in the product page?

It depends on the shop, i think..

but if they all do this.. yes?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on March 27, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1qP4Dfd5VL._SL1500_.jpg)

Well, here we go.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Shizzo on March 28, 2018, 11:32:30 PM
Huh, I wonder who's that one  under Reimu.  Her hair looks a bit too long (and no headband) to be Youmu.  Anyone knows who is she?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: martelefort on March 28, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
I'm wondering who that might be, too, though it looks like a hatless Koishi to me
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Failure McFailFace on March 29, 2018, 02:41:01 AM
Probably Marisa. Has the blond hair, and the signature side braid. Also dark clothes.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Shizzo on March 29, 2018, 02:53:24 AM
Probably Marisa. Has the blond hair, and the signature side braid. Also dark clothes.

We're talking about the girl with white hair under Reimu, Marisa's beside her.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: the old guy on March 29, 2018, 06:16:30 AM
Long shot, but Tokiko?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on March 29, 2018, 07:04:04 AM
Probably meant "under" as in "lower part of the page" rather than "behind".
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Quwanti on March 29, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
It's Koishi (http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/suou_nao/imgs/1/1/117e9d4a.jpg).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: R. P. Genocraft on March 30, 2018, 08:33:22 PM
There's also a white wing beside Reimu. Sagume I'm guessing?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Shizzo on March 30, 2018, 08:57:36 PM
That's definitely Koishi's hat on the pic Quwanti posted, so yeah, it's probably her.

What a strange take on her.  I can understand the hair not exactly being on the style we usually imagine she has, but light cyan colored eyes and that green part of her outfit really threw my judgement off. I'd expect to see yellow before green with her clothes.

(If there's any ex Grand Chase players here, I instantly thought Rin/Lin was making a touhou cameo when I first saw the cover)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Gpop on April 01, 2018, 11:59:28 PM
Koishi's hair colour has always been all over the place and never 100% consistent.

When Koishi was first revealed in SA, no one could figure out if her hair is actually green, or white/gray with green lighting from the stage itself affecting the colouring. Some even made it blue too for some reason.

But then when HM came out, it was made more clear at the time that her hair was definitely green. ULiL stuck with that too but now it looks like it's going back to white?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on April 02, 2018, 12:59:43 AM
nah genji asai just does whatever he wants
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on April 08, 2018, 11:26:29 AM
I couldn't resist passing the chinese translation of the AoCF interview (on thwiki.cc, they currently have the translation but not the original) through google trans.
I know something is probably off since it's a double translation, but...is that it? Is this the last aerial fighter?
Also apparently Doremy and baku in general have this imposing "ruler of dreams" title but aren't really that strong at all?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on April 08, 2018, 01:27:33 PM
On the last page of the interview with doujinshi artist Hitori, a likely official Touhou comic drawn by them is planned for a Fall release.

Not sure how popular they are outside of Japan, but here's the artist's pixiv page: https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=194211
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Lt Colonel Summers on April 08, 2018, 01:38:56 PM
On the last page of the interview with doujinshi artist Hitori, a likely official Touhou comic drawn by them is planned for a Fall release.

Not sure how popular they are outside of Japan, but here's the artist's pixiv page: https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=194211

New manga series?
Oh my! That probably means the introduction of new girls!
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Fulisha of Light on April 08, 2018, 02:58:51 PM
Is the new CoLA chapter out yet?
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Lebon14 on April 08, 2018, 03:11:54 PM
Is the new CoLA chapter out yet?

Released? Yes.
On the wiki? No.
Translated? No.

Heck, the content is not even available...
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on April 09, 2018, 12:13:41 AM
it would take me too long to transcribe and also it hasn't arrived

EDIT: oh my god I missed that hitori is going to be drawing for possibly-official content aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Suspicious person on April 09, 2018, 12:34:57 AM
Is it alright if I expect edible panties in an official touhou manga now

Anyway, considering how crazy Hitori's stuff are generally, hopefully whatever plot the manga'll would allow him to do his usual stuff. As someone who's read a certain comic strip of his with, uh, Lord cake among other things, I must say I'm curious to see how this new manga will turn out. Waiting in anticipation.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: SuperVehicle-001 on April 09, 2018, 04:07:07 PM
I know something is probably off since it's a double translation, but...is that it? Is this the last aerial fighter?

Super sad if true. ULiL and AoCF have both been absolutely wonderful.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Lebon14 on April 09, 2018, 07:52:29 PM
On the last page of the interview with doujinshi artist Hitori, a likely official Touhou comic drawn by them is planned for a Fall release.

Not sure how popular they are outside of Japan, but here's the artist's pixiv page: https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=194211

Misinterpreted according to Clarste (http://clarste.tumblr.com/post/172761374841/you-said-in-the-latest-scoow-that-no-official).
According to him, the annoncement talks about the artist's "past comics" and he wants to put them all in a book. Zun has nothing to do with it. Total fan work.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: CapTengu on April 09, 2018, 09:23:02 PM
Misinterpreted according to Clarste (http://clarste.tumblr.com/post/172761374841/you-said-in-the-latest-scoow-that-no-official).
According to him, the annoncement talks about the artist's "past comics" and he wants to put them all in a book. Zun has nothing to do with it. Total fan work.
Well, this is disappointing.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Lt Colonel Summers on April 10, 2018, 01:22:26 AM
Misinterpreted according to Clarste (http://clarste.tumblr.com/post/172761374841/you-said-in-the-latest-scoow-that-no-official).
According to him, the annoncement talks about the artist's "past comics" and he wants to put them all in a book. Zun has nothing to do with it. Total fan work.

Hyping for nothing, then...  :(
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on April 10, 2018, 01:27:03 AM
Yeah, I got confused because of how it was phrased, since I don't think fan doujinshi has ever gotten a commercial tankobon release before. Wonder if we'll see more like this down the road.

Also, I did read it seemed like Tasogare was going to step away from the floating-style for their next work. Whether or not that means they'll go back to the standard format remains to be seen, but they seemed split on continuing to do their own thing or going for something more easily accepted to the point it will become a featured game at EVO.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: _dk on May 26, 2018, 07:03:10 AM
Well this is totally old news by this point but as an ardent Hitori follower I want to point out that he clarified what that note meant:
https://twitter.com/minatohitori/status/990569554647568386

They're collecting all his contributions to the official magazine and put them into its own commercial tankobon. (Like what Wani Magazine did with his Kairaku Historie comics).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: H4xolotl on August 12, 2018, 01:51:23 PM
Well this is totally old news by this point but as an ardent Hitori follower I want to point out that he clarified what that note meant:
https://twitter.com/minatohitori/status/990569554647568386

They're collecting all his contributions to the official magazine and put them into its own commercial tankobon. (Like what Wani Magazine did with his Kairaku Historie comics).

Oh wow! Hitori is my favourite doujin author after Bomber Grape.

It's unfortunate his work is rarely hard translated, partially because of all the sound effects and non-typed dialogue in his works.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on September 01, 2018, 07:47:24 PM
Autumn SCoOW out on October 01:

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/coleblog/imgs/f/e/fe377519.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on September 01, 2018, 11:03:27 PM
The cover shows that the "special extra" ZUN teased previously is actually a preview for an upcoming written work, being the next entry in the ????? series.

Apparently this was revealed first in Nikenme but I hadn't gone through that yet orz
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Lt Colonel Summers on September 02, 2018, 06:49:42 AM
The cover shows that the "special extra" ZUN teased previously is actually a preview for an upcoming written work, being the next entry in the ????? series.

I am kinda hoping for it to be a continuation of Forbidden Scrollery. But there's a chance it could just be a doujin writer's works being compiled into volumes...

Still hoping it might be a new official work, though.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on September 02, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
I'd like another round of Aya's newspaper, but we "just" got AFiEU.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on September 27, 2018, 12:25:15 PM
Actual cover:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81hdcStDPML._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on October 04, 2018, 02:50:41 PM
I didn?t notice until I got the magazine but the special insert is a preview for a new danmaku/spell card collection, framed like a fireworks festival. Seems like it has loose ties to Violet Detector, at least the reason for holding it.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: gilde on October 05, 2018, 12:04:14 AM
I didn?t notice until I got the magazine but the special insert is a preview for a new danmaku/spell card collection, framed like a fireworks festival. Seems like it has loose ties to Violet Detector, at least the reason for holding it.

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (https://upload.thwiki.cc/0/0e/%E6%96%B0%E4%BD%9C%E5%BC%B9%E5%B9%95%E6%9C%AC%E9%A2%84%E8%A7%88%E4%B9%A6%E5%B0%81%E9%9D%A2.jpg)

Quote from: TL
NEW Touhou Project Danmaku Book (Preview Booklet)

GENSOKYO'S BIGGEST EVER!

A Fireworks Festival in the Cool Night Air
Sponsored by Hakurei Shrine
Location: Genbu Ravine
*Will be held rain or shine

Gensokyo's artisans compete in a test of their firework-making skills!

(Fireworks contest included!)
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on October 05, 2018, 03:55:50 AM
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Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: N-Forza on October 05, 2018, 05:58:28 AM
There was a small sample at the very end of the scene-setting comic (to the humans it was advertised as a fireworks festival, but to youkai it was more like a challenge), showing off the format.

Spell card name and screenshot
Comment from the card owner elaborating on its good qualities
Evaluation by 5 of 6 judges (Reimu, Marisa, Sakuya, Youmu, Sanae, Sumireko) and an overall score
(Reimu is brutal as always, Sumireko is easily impressed, Marisa seems to focus on technical skill, Sanae and to some extent Sakuya value aesthetics, and Youmu is...Youmu)

Seems like they're playing off the popularity of the cross-reviews, but it should be pretty entertaining and more than just a Grimoire of Marisa II (even if it might not go as in-depth).
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: CyberAngel on October 07, 2018, 11:12:57 AM
Funny that it took ZUN so long to weave in the pretty obvious danmaku/fireworks analogy, but then again,
pictures from Sumireko's Dreamland Adventure
is indeed as fitting excuse as possible.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Nyxnyx on October 08, 2018, 08:49:40 AM
Interesting how youmu, who lives as far as in the netherworld and being a half-undead, got invited as the judge while reisen, who lives much closer to gensoukyo and also a recent incident resolver, got ignored. Youmu doesn't strike me as an especially close friend to the protagonists. But since she's still half-human and the human protagonists do not seem get along with the the moon people along with reisen being full youkai, maybe it's more of a possibility that i thought it would be.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Drake on October 08, 2018, 11:25:33 AM
If you read the manga Youmu is very commonly at parties and associates with Reimu and co. a ton. Reisen isn't particularly disliked, and Marisa runs into her here and there, but she doesn't really associate with them. It isn't because she's tied to the moon either, as she's basically become an earth rabbit in spirit.

That being said, the real answer as to why it's Youmu and not Reisen is because Youmu is a funny dork while Reisen is uptight and thinks she's better than you.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: Shizzo on October 08, 2018, 06:44:25 PM
I'd imagine that ZUN (and the in-canon organizers of the show) wanted to have a team of human (human-ish, at least) characters as the judges.  Probably to make sure the audience doesn't freak out, or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: TresserT on October 08, 2018, 06:47:37 PM
Reisen was confirmed to be an honorary human in LoLK. It was even her species in her profile cough
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on October 08, 2018, 09:19:18 PM
Reisen was confirmed to be an honorary human in LoLK. It was even her species in her profile cough
It was an error.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: CyberAngel on October 08, 2018, 09:36:29 PM
Sorry, that joke/argument has been recently murdered by a tengu and an ice fairy.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on February 25, 2019, 10:43:56 AM
Next SCoOW coming out March, 4th.
Title: Re: Official Touhou Project Magazine 2016: w/ Uni Akiyama and ZUN's music CD
Post by: PK on March 02, 2019, 12:00:55 AM
Cover:

(https://onsen.touhouwiki.net/images/1/1e/ThGI7.jpg)

Spell Card FAQ and SC list by character?
I wonder if ZUN finally answered some questions about how they actually work?
I mean, seeing how these magazines roll it's probably better not to expect much about it, because it will likely be just a summary about the rules or whatever, similar to how characters' profiles don't really add much to what we know except maybe ZUN's commentary, but one can always dream. I'd be happy to be wrong, though.