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Title: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 18, 2009, 08:01:12 PM
Here. (http://www.cracked.com/funny-1750-touhou/) From the comedy geniuses who brought you  ... every top 6 list someone forwards you in an email.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Menorah Jams, Pham on August 18, 2009, 08:05:50 PM
Touhou is now mainstream and therefore it sucks
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Pako on August 18, 2009, 08:09:11 PM
WARNING, WARNING. TROLLS WILL SOON COME TO THIS FORUM.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Rin Kagamine on August 18, 2009, 08:09:27 PM
It mentions the FMJ ON Owen remix.  Therefore, it owns
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Jana on August 18, 2009, 08:12:25 PM
It mentions the FMJ ON Owen remix.  Therefore, it owns
^This.

Besides, it did a decent job informing an outsider to what we do... Sort of. I guess I'll post it elsewhere too.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Slaves on August 18, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
NEWSFLASH:

nobody knows shit about Touhou until they join a Touhou forum.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Hello Purvis on August 18, 2009, 08:51:51 PM
It's true. =[

Also, that article is not bad at all for an intro. Then again, cracked.com can be surprisingly non-retarded. Which is suprising, given what a rag Cracked was back in the '90's.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: helvetica on August 18, 2009, 09:26:11 PM
This is actually serious and newsworthy, so I moved it to where SERIOUS NEWS goes.

I never thought the day would come when I would move a thread OUT of CirnoBoard.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Kilgamayan on August 18, 2009, 09:29:03 PM
This is what an article about Touhou should look like. It's a perfect medium. No stupid fanwank or dumbass memes. No "lol little girls" or "every fan of this series likes child pornography" idiocy. It just tells the reader what goes on and lets them make their own judgment.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 18, 2009, 09:53:14 PM
This is actually serious and newsworthy, so I moved it to where SERIOUS NEWS goes.

I never thought the day would come when I would move a thread OUT of CirnoBoard.

YOSH! I'm breaking new ground.

I didn't think the article was *that* bad, to be honest, just that the humor was really forced. It's a semi-decent intro.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Easy Mode on August 18, 2009, 10:10:42 PM
I thought it was cute. It wasn't pushing it into anyone's face, and Touhou is still a little bit of a niche.

I'd show it around.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Kiro on August 18, 2009, 10:11:56 PM
I thought this was a great article.

Author does try to make a talking point by using MOF's Reimu portrait to say ZUN had to give on something for being the sole creator, but whatever.

The Lunatic screenshots even up to Byakuren's Shinki attack are a really nice touch and the author also balances in the moe pics with the insane Flandre one. Embedded videos too although I have no sound for them here at work is a nice bonus. And it goes into the crux of why Touhou is so popular: the fandom cosplay, doujin comics and games, and the video and music remixes. Pretty much covers it all. Along with the appreciation that something that by all means should be so obscure can be perpetuated so widely and for so long.

I went and showed my co-worker the article. His response:
Great article, very funny lol
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Nine West on August 18, 2009, 10:18:53 PM
Touhou is now mainstream and therefore it sucks

Heh, I'll actually be happy if more Americans know about Touhou. This article is actually decent enough, if only to introduce what Touhou is; the rest they can learn by themselves.

Then again, I feel that ZUN has never intended to make Touhou more popular than it already is in Japan.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: NinjaFoxX on August 18, 2009, 10:21:29 PM
o good read.

i lol'd a bit....
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: shinyjam on August 18, 2009, 10:43:05 PM
Good, should had mention that is one of the hardest fight, it won't scare as much people.  :V
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Drake on August 18, 2009, 11:04:14 PM
Nice grabbing everything off of /jp/ guys

But yeah, I rather like the intro thing. There's pretty much no bias and lets the reader interpret the series themselves.

Drake tangent time, I actually think I would rather Touhou not get too much more popular. It's not the kind of game that would be popular/mainstream or even get many people to play at all. What we would get instead would be even more generalizations and stereotypes than ever before, and terrible people that need to stay away from anything good. We have enough Walfas drones already. I mean, popularity would be nice in some aspects, but just seeing it as it is, it would be mostly a bad thing. Even though more people technically means more art, music, fanworks, projects, and more acknowledgment of the western fanbase, the terrible people come in droves more than people that would actually do stuff. The balance of power is already delicate enough as it is.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 18, 2009, 11:06:40 PM
I kinda like how obscure Touhou is right now. I mean, I barely ran into Flandre's theme on Youtube before I got into Touhou, and I don't even remember how I ran into it.

As for the article, I like most of it. It's pretty quirky but it tells it how it is. Yes, we are a crazy bunch.

However, HOW DARE THAT COSPLAYER MAKE REIMU A WHORE.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Moerin on August 18, 2009, 11:10:59 PM
However, HOW DARE THAT COSPLAYER MAKE REIMU A WHORE.

Like she wasn't already.  But that's why we love the little red-white~

Y'know, I kinda would like Touhou to become at least a little more mainstream than it is right now.  I mean, for one thing it'd increase my chances of finding someone to talk about it with IRL (crazy idea, isn't it?)... But for some reason it just seems like one of those cult things that never gains mainstream success but makes up for this by having an incredibly loyal and devoted (and, um, completely batshit insane, but that's why I love you guys~) fanbase.

...Nice article, by the way.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: helvetica on August 18, 2009, 11:12:58 PM
Drake tangent time, I actually think I would rather Touhou not get too much more popular. It's not the kind of game that would be popular/mainstream or even get many people to play at all. What we would get instead would be even more generalizations and stereotypes than ever before, and terrible people that need to stay away from anything good. We have enough Walfas drones already. I mean, popularity would be nice in some aspects, but just seeing it as it is, it would be mostly a bad thing. Even though more people technically means more art, music, fanworks, projects, and more acknowledgment of the western fanbase, the terrible people come in droves more than people that would actually do stuff. The balance of power is already delicate enough as it is.

Indy fag syndrome.  When you hate the thought of your fandom becoming popular and therefore making your love less indy.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: G_gglypuff on August 18, 2009, 11:19:05 PM
The article is good. I think the author could have chosen different pictures to show fan works, though. For example: IOSYS is just one of the musical groups, but not the easiest to listen too, and while he states that Megamari and SM(arisa)W feature Touhou characters, only Marisa and a fan made enemy appear.
But that was just nitpicking, for I approve the written content.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on August 18, 2009, 11:24:12 PM
Hopefully an article like this means we'll get a nice wave of people who understand the series rather than people just in for the music.

Carefully hidden amongst the inevitable trolls. >_>
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: shinyjam on August 18, 2009, 11:25:45 PM
More people here...more people here...IS AN INVASION!
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Letty Whiterock on August 18, 2009, 11:32:42 PM
I like the part where it mentions little girls and little girls and instead of raping little girls they rape you and little girls and DID I MENTION LITTLE GIRLS? Why do you want to fall under this stereotype?
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on August 18, 2009, 11:38:12 PM
I like the part where it mentions little girls and little girls and instead of raping little girls they rape you and little girls and DID I MENTION LITTLE GIRLS? Why do you want to fall under this stereotype?
To be fair, it is kinda true. >_>
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Drake on August 18, 2009, 11:38:37 PM
Drake tangent time, I actually think I would rather Touhou not get too much more popular. It's not the kind of game that would be popular/mainstream or even get many people to play at all. What we would get instead would be even more generalizations and stereotypes than ever before, and terrible people that need to stay away from anything good. We have enough Walfas drones already. I mean, popularity would be nice in some aspects, but just seeing it as it is, it would be mostly a bad thing. Even though more people technically means more art, music, fanworks, projects, and more acknowledgment of the western fanbase, the terrible people come in droves more than people that would actually do stuff. The balance of power is already delicate enough as it is.

Indy fag syndrome.  When you hate the thought of your fandom becoming popular and therefore making your love less indy.
Not quite, but nice try anyways :V
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 18, 2009, 11:50:54 PM
I like the part where it mentions little girls and little girls and instead of raping little girls they rape you and little girls and DID I MENTION LITTLE GIRLS? Why do you want to fall under this stereotype?

Yes, that. That's what I mean about the forced humor. But hey, it's Cracked, so I don't expect it to be side-splittingly funny or anything. As a 500-word article about Touhou it more or less covers the bases.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: ?q on August 19, 2009, 12:03:50 AM
Touhou is already too popular with the "wrong people" and has been for years.  But then that's how it spread to most of us :P  So more people knowing about it can't hurt too much, as I highly doubt mass appeal will cause ZUN to create NintenLolis to satisfy a vapid fanbase.

Also, this article fails because it shows a vid of the Flandre fight, which is about the least impressive thing you can show anyone about Touhou from the last seven years and violently conflicts with the earlier statements that the bosses have "beautiful" and "hard" patterns.  (Well, the "hard" is accurate enough but it's not obvious from the vid.)

I also think there is a bias to the article, namely in its insistent reminders that everyone is a loli and the fanbase has just about every kind of "wrong" thing you could expect from horny and mindless geeks.

u?kurri thinks this article takes it too easy.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: mark2000 on August 19, 2009, 01:10:57 AM
The guy was pretty well informed if only a bit too error prone. I love the twist at the end though and for what it's worth, at least it gave me a good laugh.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Alice Fact on August 19, 2009, 01:50:12 AM
dohoho

factual errors all over the place, in the article and the comments

article sucks, first picture is awesome

pretty sure this was a joke
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Cadmas on August 19, 2009, 02:08:39 AM
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I'd think so. Still funny though. I doubt one article will bring any mass number of new fans though.
The underweight comments about Zun made me laugh. If he really is 110 pounds then I weight the same amount he does. Think I could take Zun in a fight?
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Doomsday on August 19, 2009, 02:11:48 AM
it gave me a bit of a laugh. some factualy errors but i was expecting that.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: ?q on August 19, 2009, 02:19:14 AM
If he really is 110 pounds then I weight the same amount he does. Think I could take Zun in a fight?
Not unless you're as drunk as he is.
It's pretty tough to fight someone who feels no pain and has relatively fewer inhibitions.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Cadmas on August 19, 2009, 02:20:42 AM
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relatively fewer inhibitions

Well I have one half down, but I don't drink.
So Zun would likely hit me over the head with a bottle and get a danmaku idea out of it.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: shinyjam on August 19, 2009, 02:38:07 AM
So Zun would likely hit me over the head with a bottle and get a danmaku idea out of it.
Time to send you to Zun so we might get the next game sooner.  :V
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 19, 2009, 02:40:25 AM
So Zun would likely hit me over the head with a bottle and get a danmaku idea out of it.
You clearly haven't seen Uwabami Breakers.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Rikter on August 19, 2009, 02:50:13 AM
It was an interesting read. And it did seem like a simple enough introduction.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Cadmas on August 19, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
So Zun would likely hit me over the head with a bottle and get a danmaku idea out of it.
You clearly haven't seen Uwabami Breakers.

I read the wiki but reading only gets one so far.
I guess I'll watch a LP.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Letty Whiterock on August 19, 2009, 04:00:10 AM
I like the part where it mentions little girls and little girls and instead of raping little girls they rape you and little girls and DID I MENTION LITTLE GIRLS? Why do you want to fall under this stereotype?

Yes, that. That's what I mean about the forced humor. But hey, it's Cracked, so I don't expect it to be side-splittingly funny or anything. As a 500-word article about Touhou it more or less covers the bases.

The only thing this article managed to do is make Touhou fans out to be even more creepy than they already are conceived. By putting any emphasis on "little girls in an anime game", it basically cast a nice pedophilic shadow on the entire fanbase, and the factual errors certainly don't help at all. If anyone of you think this article was good, then you need to think again, because all it did is make you, the Touhou fan, sound like you live in a waifu thread.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: helvetica on August 19, 2009, 04:08:03 AM
I like the part where it mentions little girls and little girls and instead of raping little girls they rape you and little girls and DID I MENTION LITTLE GIRLS? Why do you want to fall under this stereotype?

Yes, that. That's what I mean about the forced humor. But hey, it's Cracked, so I don't expect it to be side-splittingly funny or anything. As a 500-word article about Touhou it more or less covers the bases.

The only thing this article managed to do is make Touhou fans out to be even more creepy than they already are conceived. By putting any emphasis on "little girls in an anime game", it basically cast a nice pedophilic shadow on the entire fanbase, and the factual errors certainly don't help at all. If anyone of you think this article was good, then you need to think again, because all it did is make you, the Touhou fan, sound like you live in a waifu thread.

I can't tell if this is a fakepost or not.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on August 19, 2009, 05:20:43 AM
I found the article reasonably amusing.

Same goes for this thread!
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 19, 2009, 05:45:01 AM
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like you live in a waifu thread.

and that means any and all persons who register and post in forums are too.

because there was an article on anime before, or rather a multitude of them.

Cracked.com = drama in a box.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Helepolis on August 19, 2009, 06:36:25 AM
I sense the article is balancing between good and bad. I cannot quite judge it due to various things being said about it. Though it is lacking also information regarding the PC-98 games as well.

The comparison portraits and FMJ U.N Owen made me giggle to be honest. Generally I hate the remixes.

Letty, I don't think the article makes it even more creepy. As once people start googling/searching for Touhou movies such as in game replays or pictures they will bump into the little girl pictures themself.

Though they could have used a different Reimu portrait in there, like from PCB, IN or UFO.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: helvetica on August 19, 2009, 06:42:49 AM
It's meant to be a "satirical" article.  It's not completely unbiased but at least they actually bothered to go farther into the fandom than just "these sick fucks draw pedo art all day".  They also at least highlighted how deep and pervasive the fandom is, and how much it covers.

All and all I have to say it's not a bad article from an "outsider's" view.  Yes it gets some stuff wrong and it's still fairly biased in the "little girls" theme but you know that's the VERY first thing everyone hooks on when they first find out about Touhou.  And it got a lot of stuff right, like how an entire genre of music is built around remixing ZUN's original songs to almost ANYTHING, and how it's basically it's own culture at this point with all the trappings and nuances and just seemingly odd but perfectly natural to fan things.

I don't think you could have expected a better writeup from a bystander to be quite honest.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: stassy on August 19, 2009, 07:26:25 AM
I agree with the above, the culprit is one of "us". It's a parody of an original Touhou introduction article that was used in some US convention.

Original articule is a bit outdated but still remain quite accurate, while in this one the author used a troll image with danmaku "shinki ufo" example.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Helepolis on August 19, 2009, 08:35:43 AM
it's not a bad article from an "outsider's" view. 
This is probably what we are lacking. Most of us have a strong passion for Touhou that we forget the objective and outsider point of view for people who know 0% about the game. Every article about Touhou will be bashed at one point because we are too hardcore as a community.

People would be rather scared of it I guess =P
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: ?q on August 19, 2009, 11:48:41 AM
the "little girls" theme but you know that's the VERY first thing everyone hooks on when they first find out about Touhou.
It seems I'm not everyone.

Satirical or not, I agree with ZZ.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Firestorm29 on August 19, 2009, 04:59:56 PM
I think maybe ZZ's reading too much into the little girls thing. It's like we're trying to hide the fact that the cast is made of young girls, kinda feels alot if Gundam fans would try to hide the fact that there's Giant Robots in it. I'd be happy about the fact that it tried to state a difference between loli H-games and Touhou, which seems to be pretty rare in about most write-ups about the game.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Hououin Kyouma on August 20, 2009, 03:45:02 AM
This is actually serious and newsworthy, so I moved it to where SERIOUS NEWS goes.

I never thought the day would come when I would move a thread OUT of CirnoBoard.
What about my birthday thread? Wait, that was because I was stupid to make it in the Cirnoboard :V
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: G_gglypuff on August 20, 2009, 04:31:53 AM
You guys pick too much at the "little girls" thing. Why is that? It's not like Touhou isn't full of little girls despite their age and class.
And where are all the innacuracies?
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 20, 2009, 06:22:58 AM
You guys pick too much at the "little girls" thing. Why is that? It's not like Touhou isn't full of little girls despite their age and class.

Speaking for myself:

Stylistically, because the author flogs the "little girls" thing repeatedly, as if the reader didn't understand the joke the first few times. Repeating a not-especially-funny joke several times doesn't make it funnier. And on that note, a lot of Touhou fans have to put up with that "lol pedo" crap from other people as it is, so this doesn't help.

Also, this: "Unlike most popular Japanese PC Games, Touhou isn't an Erotic Dating Game or a Rape Simulator" just smacks of the same tired, played out, "lol japs is weird amirite" joke that's obviously trying to be edgy and satirical but just falls flat.

Taking just the facts of the article into account and removing the embarrassing attempts at humor, it's a passible introduction to Touhou. But the author tries too hard to milk one weak joke for more than it can give.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: ?q on August 20, 2009, 12:26:38 PM
And on that note, a lot of Touhou fans have to put up with that "lol pedo" crap from other people as it is, so this doesn't help.
Adding on that about half of the images in the article reinforce the "lol pedo" message, or at least make us look creepy.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Menorah Jams, Pham on August 20, 2009, 01:07:22 PM
Speaking as someone who is planning a Manly Brouhou Reimu costume for Otakon 2010 (I have chest hair and a guy's build, so if I cannot be a trap, I might as well be MASCULINE) I wouldn't oppose more guys in Touhou.  We get it, the girls' outfits are pretty to look at and they're cute eye candy.  It's easy for outsiders to read "Eww, pedo" and that's where suppressing your power level comes in.

If you're running around the street in a Yukkuri T-shirt, waving a gohei you made out of a twig and Superglued paperboard, shouting "MARISA STOLE THE PRECIOUS THING" while blazing U.N. Owen on your boombox and danmakuing with pebbles, then you deserve to have people think you're creepy.  If you're a total hikki who makes no attempt to have human interaction other than printed fanart of your favorite Touhou, then you deserve to have people think you're some fanboy.  If you're a denizen of the Internet who just enjoys Touhou and the mythos/characters/music/game, then you're already on Poolswimmer or MotK and guess what?  You just enjoy the mythos/characters/music/game.  You can like whatever you like but if you're going to be an outwardly forceful douchebag about it (e.g. "TOUHOU IS GREAT AND STUPID WESTERN GAMES SUCK, SUWAKO IS MAI WAIFU IRL" or, turning things around, "YIFF YIFF YIFF HAY GUYS COME CHECK OUT MY FURSONA I DREW ART OF IT HAVING SEX WITH A UNICORNOCEROUS THAT HAS SONIC THE HEDGEHOG'S SNEAKERS AND HAIR") then you're not suppressing your power level, you're being a shitty example for the rest of us, but in the end, do we care what the rest of the world thinks?

That's pretty much all there is to it.  If you are any of those and you feel bad because some random schmucks on the Internet think you're pedo, you should get the hell off the Internet right now and stop opening yourself up to interaction, because strangers are always going to think worse of you for something.  Hell, I think anyone who whistles or hums needs to be run up a flagpole by the underwear and shot at with fire ants because they are terrible people.  Replace "anyone who whistles or hums" with "Touhou fans" and "needs to be run up etc." with "are pedo" and you see what I mean. 

Somewhere out there, a lot of people don't like what you're doing - eating meat, creating carbon emissions, playing Touhou, going on 4chan and ED, wearing fur, driving American cars, driving Japanese cars, driving European cars, taking the bus or subway, etc.

Like what you like as long as it does no direct physical harm to yourself or others, and to hell with what the Internet thinks of your hobby. 

Viva freaking Touhou, man, seriously.  I enjoy this fandom and I enjoy interacting with other Touhou fans.  I don't know half of what you're all talking about, but that's okay because I'm still learning, and it's fun being here and reading. 

Viva Touhou.  VIVA!  VIVA!
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 20, 2009, 04:41:15 PM
That was a very articulate outburst.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 20, 2009, 05:33:28 PM
On the other hand I'm not sure what you're driving at. If you act too much like a freak, you invite abuse? I'm not sure how many people on this board fit the descriptions you made here, but none of the Touhou fans I've met do. I'm sure they exist, don't get me wrong. But I think we're allowed to take issue with cheap stereotype milking.

Quote from: MJP
Like what you like as long as it does no direct physical harm to yourself or others, and to hell with what the Internet thinks of your hobby.

Well yeah. No one here's going to drop out of the fandom because of a Cracked article. And I don't see anyone raging too hard about it. For me it's a stylistic issue and just a sigh of, "Oh, this shit again ..." I know it comes with the territory. Would just be nice if the article was actually funny, if it's going to be satirical, instead of reaching for the low-hanging fruit. But you can't win 'em all.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Menorah Jams, Pham on August 20, 2009, 06:26:06 PM
Oh, I wasn't saying that people should drop the article, more like "So what if they think you're pedo - you know you're not and that's all that matters" (Unless you ARE a real pedo, at which point you'd better stay the hell away from my future sister-in-law, and save the "is she hot" for CPMC, TYVM). 

The article didn't seem like Cracked's usual Top X lists... I think they were playing into the Digg-going Internet crowd to the point of "lolololol original creator cannot draw, he drinks liquor and develops games, I CAN DO THAT WITH C++ IN A WEB 2.0 APP, UPVOTED" as the whole bit o' funny, with a touch of "silly yellow people" thrown in.

See, the good thing is that to my knowledge, nobody on the board DOES act like that, but those who do (they're probably not on MotK, I guess) are the ones who invite it upon themselves, while poorly reflecting upon us.  It is on them where our derision should focus, IMHO.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 20, 2009, 07:09:31 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Ghaleon on August 22, 2009, 08:06:24 AM
I think the article is pretty good actually. I read it, and after reading this thread, re-read it. And neither time did I feel like it was really going on and on about being about pedophiles or little girl fantasies. It spent a great deal of the article complimenting the serieis, and everything to do with it as a whole imo. The little girl part was the only exception, which really wasn't beaten like a dead horse IMO.

Personally my beef with it was that it portrayed that alot of the fan-made stuff is smutty or whatever. Of all cosplays I've seen before before, which granted isn't very much since I'm not even into anime that reimu one is by far the most smutty cosplay I've seen, then the hentai reimu/sakuya thing immediately after just put the over-emphasis in that department into overdrive IMO.

But maybe my general noobness in the touhou universe is in the wrong and there really IS that much hentai/sluttycosplay/etc in this department...I doubt it.

Overall though I didn't really think that this article labels touhou fans as pedos, or even LIKELY pedos compared to anybody else, and believe me. I'm sensative and am prone to take things personally, so you do the math >=P.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Wriggle Nightbug on August 22, 2009, 11:55:46 AM
This is indeed a great introduction for someone willing to be introduced into the world of touhou. It has the right mood/feeling/touch/tone, the atmosfere of the touhou fanbase actually^^. Touhou should become a little more poplular in some regions such as my homecountry. I see way to few cosplayers on the cons.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Suikama on August 22, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
Little girls are awesome so it's all good
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: TannerB on August 22, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
I have a friend who doesn't even wanna play Touhou thanks to this article and now thinks that "Touhou is little girl shit for weeaboo's"
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Firestorm29 on August 22, 2009, 10:42:34 PM
Kinda sounds like your friend had a few visits to somewhere like 4chan before seeing that article, especially since the article never even mentions anything about weeaboos or has that sort of tone to it.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Cadmas on August 22, 2009, 10:55:47 PM
Yes, he sounds like a very unreasonable person who probally shouldn't be using the internet since 85% of it is anime and weeaboo shit.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 22, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
Who says "weeaboo" anymore anyway?
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: ?q on August 22, 2009, 11:09:31 PM
Who says "weeaboo" anymore anyway?
I do, but I've never been very "with the times".
It looks nicer than "wapanese", at least.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: G_gglypuff on August 22, 2009, 11:10:40 PM
I have a friend who doesn't even wanna play Touhou thanks to this article and now thinks that "Touhou is little girl shit for weeaboo's"

Of course, putting it without specifying your friend's mental state may make it sound solid.

Well guys, like Ghaleon, I read the article and didn't think of pedophilia until I read your comments. Are you sure you aren't being paranoid?

Also, this: "Unlike most popular Japanese PC Games, Touhou isn't an Erotic Dating Game or a Rape Simulator" just smacks of the same tired, played out, "lol japs is weird amirite" joke that's obviously trying to be edgy and satirical but just falls flat.

And can you tell otherwise?
First, the article is directed at the "halo-boy", that guy who never played anything of japanese origin with exception of Mario games (because everyone played those).
Second, pornographic cartoons from Japan are prominent. Before Pok?mon came out, I already knew about hentai anime, and I was a kid still. Not only that, even serious games feature "sexual" themes; take Soul Calibur 2: not satisfied with some characters exposing their skirts during fights, there are some revealing pictures in the unlockable gallery.
Third, you need to do research to find out that geishas aren't equal to prostitues, and even that isn't really a fact in every situation.
Can you really blame anyone for thinking they're strange?
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Tengukami on August 22, 2009, 11:52:17 PM
First, so?
Second, there's "prominent", and then there's "most popular Japanese PC Games [are an] Erotic Dating Game or a Rape Simulator". I realize it's hyperbole for satirical effect - my point, again, is that this joke is tiiiiiiiiired.
Third, what the hell do geishas have to do with anything?
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: GappieMikan on August 23, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
This is what an article about Touhou should look like. It's a perfect medium. No stupid fanwank or dumbass memes. No "lol little girls" or "every fan of this series likes child pornography" idiocy. It just tells the reader what goes on and lets them make their own judgment.
^This, Touhou is about Danmaku, not Lolicon

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Unlike most popular Japanese PC Games, Touhou isn't an Erotic Dating Game or a Rape Simulator. In fact, instead of letting the player rape little girls, the game RAPES YOU... metaphorically speaking...
Danmaku games + Loli Girls = Serious Business. But I Repeat: Touhou is a Danmaku Game, not a Hentai Game.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: hyorinryu on August 26, 2009, 03:43:29 AM
If it's worth mentioning, I smiled at it saying that Nitori was Touhou's answer to TMNTs.
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Matsuri on August 30, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
I see a visible hitbox in the EoSD video.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll65/momijitsukuyomi/disgustedchina.png)

see, I told you I'd use it, Slaves
Title: Re: "Hilarious" Touhou article
Post by: Wriggle Nightbug on August 31, 2009, 11:48:29 AM
I see a visible hitbox in the EoSD video.
Now that's what I call SERIOUS business!