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Title: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Drake on July 10, 2012, 06:02:52 AM
Previous thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12567.0.html)

Share your recent failures and moan about how you lost to X boss because of clipdeaths and how you totally didn't just run right into everything.


http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22430 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22430)
Failed SA Stage 5, but did really well for the most part. Even the deaths weren't awful, but a failure (not-perfect) nonetheless.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 10, 2012, 06:03:50 AM
? on: Today at 02:02:52 am ?

? on: Today at 02:02:55 am ?


(http://myfacewhen.com/images/3.png)

Well played.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Drake on July 10, 2012, 06:05:28 AM
You didn't even post a relevant failure therefore I double-win.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 10, 2012, 06:15:01 AM
New thread~

Pretty sure I just died to Tewi in PoFV. ...Yep, not imagining things.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on July 10, 2012, 06:36:14 AM
EIKI BREAK MY HEART

 :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 10, 2012, 08:07:05 AM
You didn't even post a relevant failure therefore I double-win.
but my entire post counts as a failure now

(http://i.imgur.com/v4SMW.png)

I can't crack 50%.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on July 10, 2012, 08:43:11 AM
I got to Byakuren on UFO Lunatic and my game crashed. Oh and I was recording a Let's Play and I had 5 extra lives... Fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on July 10, 2012, 10:17:10 AM
I need a post here. To stay updated with this threads developments. But I haven't played Touhou (or shmups at all) in forever.

So it pisses me the hell of that I haven't had the desire to play any Touhou recently. How's that. Whatever.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on July 10, 2012, 11:30:27 AM
I decided to try timing out Yuyuko's penultimate card, since It's pretty funny. (it has butterflies)

On my first try, I decided to drop it since I'm an idiot.

(http://i.imgur.com/YoVmP.png)

I now have a 1-miss pacifist of it. Maybe some day. Maybe. MAYBE.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on July 10, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
How I long for the day when luck-dependent bullshit is no longer included in games because it does not equal fun or a challenge.
At least I finally made it to the last stage on Lunatic, getting closer now.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 10, 2012, 02:54:02 PM
That's twice now I got to Shikieiki with 2 extra lives, survived for like 5 minutes overall and died when she had 1/2 hits left. She's mocking me aaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tengukami on July 10, 2012, 03:16:37 PM
I need a post here. To stay updated with this threads developments.

Ah, fun fact: By clicking the "Unread" link instead of "Replies", you can follow a thread without commenting in it.

No failures to report other than, you know, always dying within seconds of clearing any path in GFW.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 10, 2012, 03:46:12 PM
Why the fuck did my UFO break when it only needed one more item fuck now I'm short a third of a fucking bomb dammit Kogasa I'm trying to NoFocus clear UFO Hard
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 10, 2012, 04:16:49 PM
Why the fuck did my UFO break when it only needed one more item fuck now I'm short a third of a fucking bomb dammit Kogasa I'm trying to NoFocus clear UFO Hard
Worst.
Feeling.
Ever.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: FKillThisAccount on July 10, 2012, 04:18:20 PM
(Darnit Seiga, you led me to the wrong thread! Didn't know this is part of the RAGE series)

After playing IN Normal and died to Marisa with the Border Team, I tried to use the Scarlet Team and defeat Reimu instead. Sadly, she is just as annoying as Marisa, if not hard. :o

Stage 4 difficulty spikes, GO TO HELL.  :flamingv:
Getting in my way of 1cc'ing IN Normal is evil.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 10, 2012, 04:20:14 PM
Why the fuck did my UFO break when it only needed one more item fuck now I'm short a third of a fucking bomb dammit Kogasa I'm trying to NoFocus clear UFO Hard
good luck with that  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 10, 2012, 05:03:35 PM
Okay, finally getting to the point where I'm plain mad.

Three extra lives. Should have been four, but lost two lives on Komachi despite being super close to losing one. Guess what? Both third and fourth attempts at Shikieiki got her down to 1/2, both lasted over two minutes, and I failed!

I was playing really fucking well. I should have won. Stupid idiotic AI, fucking crap.

Playing as Reisen if that's relevant to anything.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on July 10, 2012, 06:55:47 PM
Fucking hell, Marine Benefit, can't I have one fucking run where I don't get clipped?

I WILL have that perfect, it's just a matter of when. Doesn't stop it being annoying every bloody time I lose half an hour of work to one stupid hit.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 10, 2012, 06:59:08 PM
NOW I'm angry.

Two extra lives, same failure on the third attempt with 1/2 left and 2:10+ minutes gone. Nothing special. Oh, what's that? My score? Oh, it's 63,000,000. Before the last extend. Before the second last extend.

I have no idea how these things even happen. I die once to Sakuya, die only once to Medicine and die only once to Komachi, which is my best run to date, and I was playing aggressively, chaining spirits everywhere. HOW did my score stay that low? This game makes no sense. ^_^
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on July 10, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
NOW I'm angry.

Two extra lives, same failure on the third attempt with 1/2 left and 2:10+ minutes gone. Nothing special. Oh, what's that? My score? Oh, it's 63,000,000. Before the last extend. Before the second last extend.

I have no idea how these things even happen. I die once to Sakuya, die only once to Medicine and die only once to Komachi, which is my best run to date, and I was playing aggressively, chaining spirits everywhere. HOW did my score stay that low? This game makes no sense. ^_^

I swear I'm not hitting on you, maybe I'm just in way too good a mood, but that's some amazing anger management right there. To top it off, you're even being somewhat cute, then your avatar, playing Reisen, cute enough to make me want a life-sized plushy of you. I think I'd call it the "Angry Huggy Bear" and I'd hug it every night in my bed. Again, I'm not hitting on you, but that just came to my mind for whatever reason, don't ask me why.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 10, 2012, 07:13:03 PM
YUKA ISN'T A GOOD GIRL AT ALL (http://i.imgur.com/EOLS5.png)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 10, 2012, 07:28:27 PM
Maybe next time I'll use a different emoticon.

Pretty clear that my lack of score is directly linked to how well I do against Medicine and Komachi, since the more times I get to battle them the more huge bonuses I guess, but is there no reliable way to get close to 90,000,000 before Shikieiki WITHOUT wasting lives on earlier bosses?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on July 10, 2012, 08:58:13 PM
You don't want to waste lives, you want to last as long as you can in the first round of each match, since victory is essentially impossible in the first round. Doing well against Medicine would be keeping your spell points locked at the maximum and spamming level 2 spells like there's no tomorrow. Reisen's like the score-meister. Consistently reaching 90mil is totally doable with only one death to each of those three.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 11, 2012, 12:18:29 AM
Captured Apollo 13 and Astronomical Entombing!

Failed Genealogy, Omoikane, fourth nonspell. Eirin's messing wth me. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Darkblizer on July 11, 2012, 12:49:29 AM
Thought that doing a continues run through Lunatic would make Hard mode feel easier.
but nope
even more running into bullets
kill me
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 11, 2012, 01:17:37 AM
SA is just... So much ugh. I don't know how to describe it any other way. Stage 1 is killer without borders, Yamame's opener owns me, her two spells both tend to clip me, Parsee's first non-spell clips me, stage 3 is a mess of lasers that I can't read for the life of me, stage 4 is full of clip-tastic bullets that flood the screen with death, Satori's first spell drives me up a wall, DBDB is random, the spell after that is all sorts of clip clip, stage 5 is an absolute mess, and I can't unlock stage 5 for practice because Orin is just  :o.

God the only easy part of SA's latter half is BoWaP.

And yet... This sounds exactly like what I thought MoF Lunatic was like when I first did it. But why does SA feel so much worse?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 11, 2012, 01:26:26 AM
And yet... This sounds exactly like what I thought MoF Lunatic was like when I first did it. But why does SA feel so much worse?
Because MoF has more powerful bombs and SA is worse.  Take some solace in that Utsuho is surprisingly easy for a final boss-only about Satori-level difficulty.

Stage 1 is brutal, yes.
Parsee's opener shouldn't be a problem at full power, just 2 waves, which a re triviial if you don't move.  The stage 3 lasers...bombs are the best way I found too.  Stage 4 is clippy?  I never noticed.  A lot of it is either static or aimed though, so a couple stage runs and it should feel a lot easier.  Terrifying Hypnotism=bomb on lunatic.  Stage 5 has some of the edge taken off it by memorization-play it a bunch on hard until you get it down, then try again.  Orin is also ridiculous, but a good stage run and you should be able to bomb through the hard stuff (i.e. everything but her 1st 2 nonspells and second spell)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on July 11, 2012, 01:53:33 AM
My responses in bold.

Stage 1 is killer without borders, Everything is static or aimed except Kisume's card, just learn the stuff. Yamame's opener owns me, Go up and over the red bullets if she moves down, which is the only time this attack is ever threatening. her two spells both tend to clip me, It's just dodging, practice and you'll get better. Parsee's first non-spell clips me, There's a pattern to this attack, just follow the open spaces. stage 3 is a mess of lasers that I can't read for the life of me, Again, practice and you'll get better at it. stage 4 is full of clip-tastic bullets that flood the screen with death, Similar to Stage 1, everything but Orin's second midboss attack is static or aimed. Satori's first spell drives me up a wall, Static again. DBDB is random, the spell after that is all sorts of clip clip, These are indeed both hard, but fair. You'll get more comfortable the more you play them. stage 5 is an absolute mess, only midboss-Orin and the pellet hell after are truly hard, but well-timed bombs help ease the pain. and I can't unlock stage 5 for practice because Orin is just  :o. What shot type are you using? ReimuA and ReimuB can plow through her first card, and other than that only her last three attacks are consistently hard. Good questions for the Spellcard Help thread if you find them too much of a brick wall.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 11, 2012, 02:06:57 AM
Hello right hand.

"Hello, Jonathan"

Shall we attempt UFO Hard without focusing again?

"Damn skippy."

Nice touch.

*Later on, in Stage 2...

"BNIOPWBGINHWEVIPNJWEIPHDPGHPWGPHW I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS SO I'M GOING TO FIDGET AROUND AND HOPE I PULL A The Day the Sea Split OUT OF MY NONEXISTENT ASS"

STOP IT STOP IT STOP YOU MADE ME WASTE TWO FUCKING BOMBS TO KOGASA'S MIDBOSS SPELL

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on July 11, 2012, 02:10:47 AM
Reisen's like the score-meister.

Why is Reisen in particular good at scoring?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 11, 2012, 02:11:51 AM
Why is Reisen in particular good at scoring?

People score at PoFV?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yao-Kun on July 11, 2012, 02:13:33 AM
*decide to try Lunatic difficult*
Playing Touhou 12

(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp218/archaozz/th12e2012-07-1109-08-59-06.jpg)

Yes, I'm suck at Lunatic difficult  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 11, 2012, 02:43:54 AM
@I have no name and Fuunen1: I really wasn't expecting replies to that, since that was just me venting. Even still though, I appreciate your responses. It just feels like I'm learning slower in this game than I did in MoF, but that's just part of the process. A lot of Touhou just feels like I need to acquire a certain "feel" for the spells, and I definitely don't have that experience yet.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 11, 2012, 02:56:45 AM
(Yes I know this will be ironic considering my current profile picture)

God dammit CtC Stage 2 Aya why the hell do you like ramming into me you killed me once when you came in as a midboss and once as a boss stop coming in when I decide to PoC and come in on the side that I'm closer to just so that you can fucking hit me.

Fuck you Stage 5, you are the most unfun piece of shit in CtC's entire wardrobe, you are the leather garments of the armor library, you are the Copper Shortsword of the library of Terraria weapons, you are the Pickle Cheesecake of the desserts library.

I HATE STAGE FIVE. It's not that it's hard, no. It's just a fucking boring stage. Bite me Netherworld Team fans, I like the characters, just not that stage.

Fucking dammit Last Spells why do you knock my Hakurei bar to zero when I fail to capture you fuck you Last Spells fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 11, 2012, 03:11:06 AM
^Funny you mention CtC, I was just playing that the other day.  I agree whole-heartedly with you, the Hakurei system is garbage.  Die or deathbomb and you practically need to wait a whole stage for the bar to recharge.  It's one of those games where I wish I could pretend score didn't exist.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 11, 2012, 03:16:45 AM
^Funny you mention CtC, I was just playing that the other day.  I agree whole-heartedly with you, the Hakurei system is garbage.  Die or deathbomb and you practically need to wait a whole stage for the bar to recharge.  It's one of those games where I wish I could pretend score didn't exist.

Speaking of score, am I the only one whom is bothered that the Danmakufu engine uses the ones digit for score instead of counting how much you suck?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on July 11, 2012, 03:34:51 AM
@Star King: From what I can tell, it's because her level 2 (and possibly her boss attack) creates a ton of slow moving bullets. Not only that, but they're stacked on top of each other and stay perfectly still for while before spreading, The AI reflects them, then you can reflect them right back because they're too slow to leave the top of the screen quickly, and tons of bullets collect at the top getting reflected repeatedly, earning you tons of points. I could be wrong, but that's how it seems to me.
People score at PoFV?
Well, it's the only game where score is remotely relevant to survival. And then of course, it's just the best scoring system anyway. >:D
Aside from PoDD

And there's HRtP I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on July 11, 2012, 08:11:47 AM
Well, it's the only game where score is remotely relevant to survival. And then of course, it's just the best scoring system anyway. >:D
Aside from PoDD

And there's HRtP I guess.
2/5 since you made me reply.

MoF and IN, dude. Also lower difficulty PCB and SA.
IN isn't scoring so much as it is "grab all the point items".
I beg your pardon? IN has a fuckton of hard supergrazes, unfocused milking and fairy timings. And IN scoring requires survival, so does lower difficulty SA and PCB, and especially MoF.
He only meant that those supergrazes don't earn you lives. So the heart of the scoring system doesn't play much of a role in a survival run, since earning lives is only about number of point items, and EoSD and MoF pretty much just hand you the extends. PoFV and HRtP are the only two I can think of that really force you to play for score in order to survive.
You can clear PoFV just fine without scoring at all, Zil. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20339)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 11, 2012, 08:23:06 AM
Well, MoF scoring is survival, in a way, and IN isn't scoring so much as it is "grab all the point items". Grazing and manipulating one half and all the other things aren't involved. On the other hand, PoFV extends are directly related to score, and unlike MoF and EoSD, you're far from guaranteed to get them all.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on July 11, 2012, 08:33:53 AM
I beg your pardon? IN has a fuckton of hard supergrazes, unfocused milking and fairy timings. And IN scoring requires survival, so does lower difficulty SA and PCB, and especially MoF.
He only meant that those supergrazes don't earn you lives. So the heart of the scoring system doesn't play much of a role in a survival run, since earning lives is only about number of point items, and EoSD and MoF pretty much just hand you the extends. PoFV and HRtP are the only two I can think of that really force you to play for score in order to survive.
Also lower difficulty PCB and SA.
Actually, judging by this part, I think you may have misunderstood what I said. When I said scoring was relevant to survival in PoFV, I meant that scoring helps you survive, not that surviving helps you score.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 11, 2012, 08:50:02 AM
Yes, PoFV requires you to abuse the scoring system to its fullest in order to survive.

No, it's not easy to get all the extends. If all my bitching up to now isn't proof I don't know what is. Oh, and that replay is Normal. Lunatic is much more tight seeing as you're forced to lose lives sometimes because the bosses are invincibru.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 11, 2012, 04:26:11 PM
Shikieiki owes me a new pair of hands.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 11, 2012, 04:49:04 PM
Yukari. Stop running into bullets. Please. You've ruined two IN Normal Perfect attempts.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on July 11, 2012, 05:05:20 PM
*decide to try Lunatic difficult*
Playing Touhou 12

(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp218/archaozz/th12e2012-07-1109-08-59-06.jpg)

Yes, I'm suck at Lunatic difficult  :colonveeplusalpha:
Happy to see that isn`t only me that suck at lunatic mode :P

And that Kaguya`s Dragon`s necklace kills me more than that Rainbow Danmaku =o
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on July 11, 2012, 05:25:59 PM
No bombs for  "Super-Water Repelling Bone-Dry Monster" . 
That's alright, I'll just try to capture it!
*Get a decent chunk of its hp off with a bit of luck, then "pichuun!".* 
Well, just have to finish it off now.
*Somehow dies twice more because of cluster bullets spawning in front of me.*
 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 11, 2012, 08:15:17 PM
Ha ha ha, Phantasmagoria Trues...

Good one. I LOVE your ASININE, CRUEL JOKES.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SCORE ON STANDARD MODE OF ALL FUCKING THINGS AND YOU'RE BEING A FUCKING DICK ABOUT LETTING ME DO SO
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on July 12, 2012, 02:24:51 AM
Fucking hell, the Yaobi sisters are bloody sadists.

Then again, so is just about every other character in MB Lunatic. You know you're in for a real treat when the Stage 1 midboss card is a planned bomb.

And this is coming from someone who can 1D0B MB Normal without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 12, 2012, 02:46:40 AM
This is a scenario of my first fight with Sakuya in Phantasmagoria Trues. I was given a choice between two routes that were unnamed at the start of the level, and I chose the right, which happened to be Area 4 Ura. Oh fuck.

Oh hey, we're fighting Sakuya.

Detachment "Mind Over Matter"

Oh. Doesn't seem too baFUCK YOU SAKUYA THAT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR *In this spell, Sakuya pulls an instantaneous Lunatic Red Moon, where she MOVES STUFF AHEAD A GREAT AMOUNT WITH LITTLE WARNING BEFOREHAND AND I THINK THE HITBOXES CARRY THROUGH AND KILL YOU IF YOU'RE BETWEEN THE FUCKING START AND DESTINATION

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Ugh... Now that that's over, maybe that's just one dickery card.

Time Passing "Twilight Walker"

Maybe I can try to caGOD DAMMIT SAKUYA THAT'S BULLSHIT *This one isn't THAT bad though I have to say that the stopping time gimmick is fucking bullshit

UGH.

Superstring "D-Braneworld"

Okay, doesn't seem so horrible. This is the only one that has a remotely fair gimmick. Thank you for giving me a fucking break.

Engraved Temple "Daylight Volkswagen"

I don't remember this encounter.

Severing "Distortion Square"

Oh hey, STREAMING WHILE GOING UP AND DOWN ALONG WITH LEFT OR RIGHT. TOTALLY MISSED YOU.

I went in this fucking fight with four lives and came out with none. I used all the fucking bombs I could.

And all because I went to the right five minutes before then.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 12, 2012, 04:11:33 AM
^And that's why I take the left path for stage 4 :V.  Youmu's a million times easier.  Also, I think the teleporting knives don't hit the area between their teleports, but I'm not 100%.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 12, 2012, 04:34:24 AM
^And that's why I take the left path for stage 4 :V.  Youmu's a million times easier.  Also, I think the teleporting knives don't hit the area between their teleports, but I'm not 100%.

And the sad part is eventually I'm gonna want to perfect these stages. That means I'll have to perfect the Sakuya fight. FUCK.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 12, 2012, 06:16:53 AM
Total Purification can go die. I have more tries on this damn Last Word than any other. Ugh ugh ugh ugh. Clip clip clip clip. At least Fantasy Heaven is somewhat memorizable. This trash is just... My eyes just get crossed so quickly. At 33% health, I just can't keep up anymore and hit something. Wow. Clocking in at 189 attempts with no end in sight.

I... I just don't know what's going wrong...

Edit: Oh yeah that reminds me. I hate how playing as Border team has spoiled me. I can't play Magic team for beans now. Alice just moves SO FAST when focused. And I thought microtapping was hard enough already...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 12, 2012, 06:25:38 AM
Total Purification can go die. I have more tries on this damn Last Word than any other. Ugh ugh ugh ugh. Clip clip clip clip. At least Fantasy Heaven is somewhat memorizable. This trash is just... My eyes just get crossed so quickly. At 33% health, I just can't keep up anymore and hit something. Wow. Clocking in at 189 attempts with no end in sight.

I... I just don't know what's going wrong...

Edit: Oh yeah that reminds me. I hate how playing as Border team has spoiled me. I can't play Magic team for beans now. Alice just moves SO FAST when focused. And I thought microtapping was hard enough already...
It's all in the rhythm. (http://i.imgur.com/IAHvB.png)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Random on July 12, 2012, 07:34:21 AM
How do people even like fighting Sakuya, anyway? She's total bullcrap in every game she's in with possibly the exception of PCB, in which I never really found Sakuya fun to use.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 12, 2012, 11:45:10 AM
5/5 of my last five proper 6a attempts have perfected Eirin up to and including Game of Rising.
2/5 of my last five proper 6a attempts have perfected Eirin up to and including third nonspell.

Self explanatory.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on July 12, 2012, 07:24:03 PM
Rust strikes again. So many deaths all over the place in whatever I'm doing, and almost all of them on easy stuff that I should never be dying on. I gave up after it all culminated in a death on Knockout in Three Steps.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 12, 2012, 07:31:42 PM
>Makes it to Stage 6 Mima (Phantasmagoria Trues)'s last spell with absurd high score for a first time
>Forgets to save replay

FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 12, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
This is a scenario of my first fight with Sakuya in Phantasmagoria Trues. I was given a choice between two routes that were unnamed at the start of the level, and I chose the right, which happened to be Area 4 Ura. Oh fuck.

Oh hey, we're fighting Sakuya.

Detachment "Mind Over Matter"

Oh. Doesn't seem too baFUCK YOU SAKUYA THAT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR *In this spell, Sakuya pulls an instantaneous Lunatic Red Moon, where she MOVES STUFF AHEAD A GREAT AMOUNT WITH LITTLE WARNING BEFOREHAND AND I THINK THE HITBOXES CARRY THROUGH AND KILL YOU IF YOU'RE BETWEEN THE FUCKING START AND DESTINATION

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Ugh... Now that that's over, maybe that's just one dickery card.

Time Passing "Twilight Walker"

Maybe I can try to caGOD DAMMIT SAKUYA THAT'S BULLSHIT *This one isn't THAT bad though I have to say that the stopping time gimmick is fucking bullshit

UGH.

Superstring "D-Braneworld"

Okay, doesn't seem so horrible. This is the only one that has a remotely fair gimmick. Thank you for giving me a fucking break.

Engraved Temple "Daylight Volkswagen"

I don't remember this encounter.

Severing "Distortion Square"

Oh hey, STREAMING WHILE GOING UP AND DOWN ALONG WITH LEFT OR RIGHT. TOTALLY MISSED YOU.

I went in this fucking fight with four lives and came out with none. I used all the fucking bombs I could.

And all because I went to the right five minutes before then.
Shhhhhhh
It's okay
Drink some barq
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on July 12, 2012, 09:29:01 PM
ALDHFJDFHLAJHFLJHDSAJHDFLALHFJALHJFUCKYOUMIKODLSKJHFAKJDHLAJHDFLAJH

YOU KILL ME JUST BEFORE I WIN D8<

AND DAMN YOU FAIRIES. AND WISPS. YOU FRIGGIN MADE ME LOSE ALL MY LIVES BEFORE MIKO BECAUSE I HAVENT PLAYED TEN DESIRES IN A MONTH AND FORGOT ABOUT YOUR SPAWN PLACEMENTS ON THE SIDES. ARGHGHHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on July 13, 2012, 12:38:53 AM
How do people even like fighting Sakuya, anyway? She's total bullcrap in every game she's in with possibly the exception of PCB, in which I never really found Sakuya fun to use.

Hey man

EoSD Sakuya is way fun
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 13, 2012, 01:57:29 AM
Played some EoSD.
1DNB lunatic Meiling!  to the post-Flower Dream Vine nonspell of all things!

EoSD Sakuya is way fun
Then a 1DNB Sakuya!  to the last spell!  This makes 2 1DNB Sakuya fights, the other to the second nonspell.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Random on July 13, 2012, 01:58:58 AM
Hey man

EoSD Sakuya is way fun
No
Lies

Maybe supergrazing her midboss nonspell is fun but still
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 13, 2012, 02:28:58 AM
Played some EoSD.
1DNB lunatic Meiling!  to the post-Flower Dream Vine nonspell of all things!
Then a 1DNB Sakuya!  to the last spell!  This makes 2 1DNB Sakuya fights, the other to the second nonspell.
I want to try perfecting some EoSD stages, but no replays for stage practice makes me lose all interest. I heard something about a patch that lets you do that, do you know anything about it?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 13, 2012, 02:34:24 AM
I want to try perfecting some EoSD stages, but no replays for stage practice makes me lose all interest. I heard something about a patch that lets you do that, do you know anything about it?
I heard of that, pretty sure it only worked with the Chinese language patch.

Either way, I was livestreaming it so I would have had the livestream video.  You could also always just record every attempt.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 13, 2012, 03:01:57 AM
You could also always just record every attempt.
I can't even record my own videos, I give the replays to a friend who does everything. Safe to say that's out of the question.

Chinese is a little weird, but it's better than nothing. I'll look around.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 13, 2012, 03:16:12 AM
I can't even record my own videos, I give the replays to a friend who does everything. Safe to say that's out of the question.

Chinese is a little weird, but it's better than nothing. I'll look around.
This (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=9984.0) would be the thread you're looking for.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on July 13, 2012, 03:32:35 AM
90fps GFW Extra. 6 deaths to Grand Cross. I'm utterly disgusted.

Oh yeah, and it's nice having to 'no-ice' the flashlight thing because I can't see through screen cover percentage, killing me instantly. (It actually is fun, but still, wtf.)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 13, 2012, 03:40:20 AM
This (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=9984.0) would be the thread you're looking for.
That doesn't really answer much, it just says the TC never actually managed to get it to work.

Should I make a new thread for this?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 13, 2012, 04:02:18 AM
Well it provides a link to the site with the patch, and this:
Quote
Instructions on installing the patch
If your EoSD has Chinese patch, replace files with the ones in th06_cn.zip
Otherwise, use the programs in th06_replaypatch.zip to patch (one is for Japanese and one is for English, dunno which)
If non works, then your EoSD is not v1.02h, or that you patched it with something else.
Sadly I couldn't get it to work on my old PC, but that one hated EoSD, dnh, and all things Japanese.  So many headaches from that machine... In any case, give that a go and see.  It's about all there is for English documentation on it as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 13, 2012, 04:04:24 AM
I can't even find the files they're talking about.

And will the fact that I can't run Asian locales be an issue?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on July 13, 2012, 05:32:23 AM
Heaven and hell meltdown.
Heaven and hell meltdown.
HEAVEN AND HELL MELTDOWN.
HEAVEN AND EFFING HELL MELTDOWN!!!

What do I do? Either I die or that thing costs me five bombs. How? HOW?!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on July 13, 2012, 05:40:21 AM
More generic UFO rage  :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 13, 2012, 06:19:28 AM
Trying to unlock SA Lunatic stage 6 for practice through continues... Then my Windows update resets my computer on my second attempt. Sigh. Though I suppose this was my fault for forgetting about doing it in the first place >.>

Still, I got to unlock stage 5 for practice. ORINNNNN!! I can't believe how hard she's become in Lunatic. Like what the hell. I remember when the cannibal wheels spell was easy. No strategy required! Now though...

@SirChaotick: Go to the sides and dodge. Don't get your eyes crossed. I tend to have a lot of success by moving in an 'o' formation. If you move up through the wave that's closer to you, then you'll have an easier time reading the other wave and so on and so forth. You may just have more success doing random dodging though, I dunno.

Although I have also seen some people dodge it right in the middle of the screen and be quite successful with it. If you're good at precision movements, dodging there might be easier for you.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Shizzo on July 13, 2012, 06:28:21 AM
I've already beat TD and SA on Lunatic

And when I try going for MoF I get to stage 6 with 2 extra lives

And then the last of those friggin' FUR BALL THINGS SHOOTS ME AND I GET DOWN TO ONLY ONE

Ok ok that's good I still thought I could do it...
Until Yamato Torus chipdeaths me
UGHGUGHGUHGH I'll save MoF for my second to last lunatic (last being UFO, of course)

Also, when I finally was able to beat CtC's phantasm, the game crashes and I can't save the replay
Now I feel so hollow inside....

(Anybody got another game I could try 1ccing on lunatic?  I was thinking of IN)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on July 13, 2012, 07:44:49 AM
You could also always just record every attempt.
That reminds me, I'd record my own EoSD practice attempts, but HyperCam 2 doesn't seem to work with full screen, and I find Touhou nearly impossible to play on higher difficulties when the game is only taking up a quarter of the screen... anyone know a way to either record full-screen or resize the EoSD window?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 13, 2012, 07:58:42 AM
Vsynch. Resize the window to whatever size you want.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 13, 2012, 11:25:34 AM
No.

That was, quite possibly, the worst way to die.

2:41, on my third try out of four against Shikieiki, I loose a level 2, then misjudge the invincibility frames and dash right into a bullet because I was moving sharp to the center of the screen.

I NEVER get as far as 2:41. I'm lucky to get to 2:00, and that's usually when she's down to her last hit.

Fuck everything.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on July 13, 2012, 12:21:09 PM
I'm so out of practice that it hurts.

But ehh... Aura of Light. Fuck you. You are one of the worst spells in Touhou. Ever. Period. Dying to her attacks can be annoying but never quite as much as simply playing Aura of Light.

EDIT: And nothing just wants to go fucking right. That's it. I need a break now. This is so fucking bad. I'm so fucking pathetic at this game. Can't fucking control anything, keep running into bullets, can't capture ANY FUCKING THING. And it's irritating as fuck because of that 3 minute loading screen before the boss every fucking time.

I need a break. Play something easier.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 13, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
I'm so out of practice that it hurts.

But ehh... Aura of Light. Fuck you. You are one of the worst spells in Touhou. Ever. Period. Dying to her attacks can be annoying but never quite as much as simply playing Aura of Light.

EDIT: And nothing just wants to go fucking right. That's it. I need a break now. This is so fucking bad. I'm so fucking pathetic at this game. Can't fucking control anything, keep running into bullets, can't capture ANY FUCKING THING. And it's irritating as fuck because of that 3 minute loading screen before the boss every fucking time.

I need a break. Play something easier.

Ketsui? Dai-Ou-Jou? EspGaluda?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on July 13, 2012, 01:24:08 PM
Nah I was actually just thinking about Kogasa or Ichirin but it turns out I can't even properly handle Ichirin right now and given that I already gave Ketsui a spin earlier today I think i'll just call it it for now and relax.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 13, 2012, 03:33:09 PM
Alright, let's just sit here and let that bullet pass right by - wait what?!  I've decided that SoEW doesn't deserve to have me clear it.  Not when Reimu's side-orbs are randomly growing hitboxes whenever they damn well feel.  Such terrible design...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 13, 2012, 04:44:50 PM
After seven consecutive perfects to fail at Game of Rising, I finally broke the streak?by failing at Genealogy.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 13, 2012, 06:23:31 PM
All the guys and girls on FB thought Touhou was rubbish, so I did a live replay of TD normal modo to show them.
I made it to Miko with three lives. On guze flash I was about to get hit so i tried to bomb nothing happened, and I game over'd.
I eventually realised I was moving to the left at the same time.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
BTW, I hate Seiga's spells :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on July 13, 2012, 07:53:37 PM
Obligatory Greatest Treasure rage.

Seriously, how hard is it to convince myself that perfecting this stage is not fucking worth it anymore?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 13, 2012, 09:07:39 PM
Obligatory Greatest Treasure rage.

Seriously, how hard is it to convince myself that perfecting this stage is not fucking worth it anymore?

It depends on how much "guilt" builds up.

For instance I'm fucking done with TD Extra. I have just dropped it. I'll sooner get done with high school than I will clear TD Extra.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on July 13, 2012, 09:19:10 PM
It depends on how much "guilt" builds up.

For instance I'm fucking done with TD Extra. I have just dropped it. I'll sooner get done with high school than I will clear TD Extra.

Well if you can clear UFO Hard then there is no excuse that you don't just go kick Mamizous ass. So do it. ;D
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 13, 2012, 10:38:29 PM
LLS funtimes.  Trying to score in normal, just met three game overs in the following ways:

-Yuka's kedema milk phase.  I was out of resources and a kedema crashed into me
-Yuka's supergraze phase.  Didn't tap far enough down, died.  Twice.  Also died with 3 bombs in stock on stage 5 by crashing into one of those black/yellow orb things when I meant to bomb them for point items.
-Stage 5 kedema crashing into me, followed by a stray bullet hitting me a bit before the rings of death.

Blargh, I want my 70m =|
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 13, 2012, 10:43:11 PM
A continuation of my last post, but eh. 15 attempts to make it past Eirin midboss nonspell (and thus register on the spellcard counter) haven't made it to third nonspell. I should work on perfecting easier bosses instead, like Orin and Byakuren.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 13, 2012, 10:44:43 PM
Nah, you'd have better luck with Remilia.  :V

why is her first spell BS  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 13, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
Nah, you'd have better luck with Remilia.  :V
With 20 minutes between attempts? Yeah, still probably quicker than this.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on July 13, 2012, 10:46:30 PM
Lost three of my lives to Merlin's first nonspell on PCB Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 14, 2012, 02:17:03 AM
I have apparently lost the ability to beat BoWaP. 3 deaths to Satori ended a run, then I just lost my last life to the BoWaP fairies at the end of stage 6. I can't even remember the last time I died there, or if it even happened at all.

Also, SA Stage 1 is so brutal. I consider good runs of it to be 1 miss and 3 bombs. Sigh.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 14, 2012, 04:13:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/h7hR6.png)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on July 14, 2012, 05:17:23 AM
Yikes, no mistakes up until that point? That looks disheartening.

I really, really hated how that Spellcard essentially boils down to your ability to survive the last 5 seconds. The other parts range from easy to challenging, but I think I got hit roughly 4 times in the last 3 seconds when I was trying to clear it for the first time. My history isn't anywhere even remotely close to 12/69, though, that's rather awesome.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 14, 2012, 08:44:11 AM
crap crap crap
I keep dying to stage 2 on all games
curse vsync for not working at all  :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zirene on July 14, 2012, 09:00:36 AM
Mamizou is a cheater!  She's using mind control!

This might not sound believable but I promise it happened.  I was about to capture her 2nd Spell Card "Carnivorous Danmaku Transformation" and my dog came and nudged my right arm and got me killed.  I had a perfect run and decent score going but it didn't bother me, it was not far into the fight and I just play for personal high scores.

Mamizou, stay out of my dog's head!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 14, 2012, 11:58:34 AM
*attempts at an Apollo 13 Lunatic timeout*

first & second attempts: death at the second wave of all things
attempts 3 through 5: death at the first wave because lol who needs focus
sixth attempt: die at 02 seconds left

^_^
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on July 14, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
I really, really hated how that Spellcard essentially boils down to your ability to survive the last 5 seconds. The other parts range from easy to challenging, but I think I got hit roughly 4 times in the last 3 seconds when I was trying to clear it for the first time. My history isn't anywhere even remotely close to 12/69, though, that's rather awesome.

The crisscrossing green bullets is the hardest part IMO
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 14, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Another failure to Mamizou. I'm especially peeved about Ten Transformations (I died twice in a row and RAN INTO THE DOGS ON THE SECOND DEATH). See the comment below. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22543)

"That's it. I'm fucking done with you. I am fucking sick and tired of trying as hard as I fucking can just to get to you only to have you toss me up, throw me around, and kick my face in with your stupid dogs, your retarded cats, your inane birds, your moronic frogs, AND YOUR IDIOTIC HUMANS. I HATE YOU. Have a nice day you fucking cunt ^_^"

P.S.: I'm going to play again later.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 14, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
Another failure to Mamizou. I'm especially peeved about Ten Transformations (I died twice in a row and RAN INTO THE DOGS ON THE SECOND DEATH). See the comment below. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22543)

"That's it. I'm fucking done with you. I am fucking sick and tired of trying as hard as I fucking can just to get to you only to have you toss me up, throw me around, and kick my face in with your stupid dogs, your retarded cats, your inane birds, your moronic frogs, AND YOUR IDIOTIC HUMANS. I HATE YOU. Have a nice day you fucking cunt ^_^"

P.S.: I'm going to play again later.
Yet again, I will tell you to Shhhhhhhhh
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Dat language
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 14, 2012, 09:16:05 PM
Yet again, I will tell you to Shhhhhhhhh
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Dat language

I've (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg768771.html#msg768771) done (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg768798.html#msg768798) far (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg769254.html#msg769254) far (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg771193.html#msg771193) worse. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg772435.html#msg772435)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 14, 2012, 09:46:35 PM
I've (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg768771.html#msg768771) done (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg768798.html#msg768798) far (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg769254.html#msg769254) far (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg771193.html#msg771193) worse. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11603.msg772435.html#msg772435)
Just chill and let it sink in, brah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLdef-vMaHE&feature=related).
Back to topic...
Why is UFO stage 3 so harrrrd~~~
Did ZUN make the game harder than normal on purpose because it's so easy to get lives, points and bombs? A certain bro-fisting man wont stop killing me...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on July 14, 2012, 11:54:15 PM
>1ccs MarisaB EoSD hard with two lives to spare
>Fails to 1cc ReimuB PCB normal

There's something wrong with me. And I restarted on stage 1 like at least 30 times because I was trying to enough cherry to get a border right after Cirno and Reimu is so freaking slow in this game so it's hard to gather all the falling items. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A RELAXING, RANDOM RUN, TO CLEAR WITHOUT EFFORT, and I feel the need to get a border after Cirno to get power items when it doesn't even really matter much. Is Touhou OCD a thing?

Shhhhhhh
It's okay
Drink some barq

Holy shit. BARG'S IS ACTUALLY BARQ'S. I'VE NEVER NOTICED THAT IT'S A Q, ALWAYS THOUGHT IT'S A G. MIND = BLOWN. CHILDHOOD RUINED.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 15, 2012, 01:08:58 AM
Holy shit. BARG'S IS ACTUALLY BARQ'S. I'VE NEVER NOTICED THAT IT'S A Q, ALWAYS THOUGHT IT'S A G. MIND = BLOWN. CHILDHOOD RUINED.

I'M WITH YOU BUDDY I'M WITH YOU :qq: GIVE ME YOUR DAMN SHOULDER I NEED TO FUCKING CRY
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 15, 2012, 01:18:34 AM
Barq's All Along master race representing

can't capture 60fps Guze Flash also representing :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on July 15, 2012, 03:41:33 AM
I was playing EoSD extra with ReimuA, perfect until QED when Flan explodes got clipped by those ricey bullets
And then a run with MarisaB I got hit on counter clock (which TOTALLY didn't make ANY sense) and that was another 1DNB.

Maybe perfect with those two shots when I feel like it. :/
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 15, 2012, 04:16:52 AM
I also thought it was Barg's and could never understand why the commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4DBZ2TBp-w) pronounced it the way it did...

Just to keep this on topic, I'm still bad at UFO.  S5 Nazrin game over.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 15, 2012, 05:15:58 AM
I also thought it was Barg's and could never understand why the commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4DBZ2TBp-w) pronounced it the way it did...

Just to keep this on topic, I'm still bad at UFO.  S5 Nazrin game over.

No fuck being on topic let's not bring up the fact that the same thing just happened but on Full Moon Pompolololololin

I want some fucking root beer.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 15, 2012, 10:47:54 PM
How you know you need to take a break from SA: When you're losing runs to Stage 2. I wouldn't have thought it possible until it actually happened..
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: AnonymousPondScum on July 16, 2012, 02:37:02 AM
I keep on dying against Reisen in IN.

Repeatedly.

And it's not even her spellcards. It's her normal barrages. :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 16, 2012, 03:00:06 AM
And it's not even her spellcards. It's her normal barrages. :fail:
2nd nonspell shouldn't be underestimated, it was one of the only real trouble spots when I was trying to perfect it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: AnonymousPondScum on July 16, 2012, 03:36:41 AM
2nd nonspell shouldn't be underestimated, it was one of the only real trouble spots when I was trying to perfect it.

Hell, it was only recently that I got past her FIRST nonspell.  :V

I do not get why she's considered a useless little bunny, even jokingly. She taught me fear. :o
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LadyScarlet on July 16, 2012, 04:42:37 AM
I can't 1cc a single game on Normal. Not even Imperishable Night. Damn all stage 4 difficulty spikes. D:<

Also damn Icicle Fall on Normal. Easy modo is easy, yes, but normal mode is just... Dang it yellow bullets, why do you have to home in like that!? DX
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on July 16, 2012, 08:42:41 AM
I do not get why she's considered a useless little bunny, even jokingly. She taught me fear. :o

And sooner or later you will teach yourself approaches to all the spellcards leaving only one random dangerous attack left, that being the 2nd one. It's not unlikely that she looks hard until you get some practice in though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on July 16, 2012, 09:13:07 AM
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/931/noinactivewindowpause.png)

Never again.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Jx31 on July 16, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/931/noinactivewindowpause.png)

Never again.

Ouch, hitting that button sucks big time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on July 16, 2012, 06:21:22 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m79l5iMlsd1r6ui98o1_1280.jpg)

I was THIS CLOSE TO AN ULTRA LUNATIC 1CC OF THIS GAME AGHHHH  >:(

Pain will rain on you, SA.   :flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on July 16, 2012, 08:12:13 PM
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/931/noinactivewindowpause.png)

Never again.
I remember when I died in Tomb Raider 2 because of this button and I cryed lol
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on July 16, 2012, 11:40:01 PM
Was playing EoSD's Ultra Extra, lost after doing like 98% damage to QED. Damn, that'd be my third Ultra Extra clear. <_< (without auto-deathbombs btw)

Also, long ago when I was gonna clear PCB's Extra for the first time, I KILLED Ran, but I didn't clear because I got hit while she was blowing up and had no spare lives. Idk how I didn't really get mad at that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 16, 2012, 11:45:16 PM
so much rage at Yuyuko right now.

I enter the Prismrivers 5/1, die with the bomb, then die again without using any of those bombs, enter Stage 5 3/3.  Exit Stage 5 2/3, get an extra life after Youmu (expend 1 bomb on stage and 1 on spell), enter Yuyuko 3/2.  Capture opener, die to spell, bomb it twice, capture nonspell, bomb then die the next spell, exit ghost knives 1/1.  Use it of the butterfly volcano thing, dodge the nonspell and Repository and half of her 5th spell.  Bomb once, enter Reflowering 0/2.  Bomb the first 2 red waves, dodge to 10 seconds left, die by LASER while trying to get a border.  Note that this border would have guaranteed victory had I gotten it.


2 consecutive perfect attempts at Reisen fail to Mind Stopper, go to Spell Practice, capture in 1 try, time out in 1 try.  TROLL BUNNY IS TROLL
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PapillonReel on July 17, 2012, 05:15:59 AM
I made it to Shiki with Reisen with two lives in stock, died twice with less than half an orb left on her meter, and lost my last life less than half a million points to the next extend  :colonveeplusalpha:

ALL OF MY HATE, PoFV

ALL OF IT
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LunarWingCloud on July 17, 2012, 06:30:41 PM
Been trying to clear TD Extra. Not going well at all. I can make it to Mamizou with 4 spare lives and a bomb, but by the time I get to Wild Deserted Island, it's over.

Funny thing is I've beaten her once before, but I cannot for the life of me remember how I dodged all her attacks. Gonna have to relearn. ._.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Leopold621 on July 17, 2012, 07:03:31 PM
I suck at Ten Desires! (Not litteraly...)  :(
I hardly can't get through Stage 2 without at least one death!  :blush:
I have to do spell card practise all the time!
I swear, the games are getting harder and harder...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: AnonymousPondScum on July 17, 2012, 07:16:33 PM
Subterranean Animism almost broke me.  :fail:

I thought people were kidding when they talked about it's difficulty.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LunarWingCloud on July 17, 2012, 07:37:16 PM
No, they don't play around when it comes to SA. I've still yet to even get past Rin's first spellcard without having to continue. :I I've 1cc'd 5 of the games on Normal, but SA is just out of this world sometimes.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on July 17, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7bvc2UD6S1r6ui98o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 18, 2012, 03:44:11 AM
I suck at Ten Desires! (Not litteraly...)  :(
I hardly can't get through Stage 2 without at least one death!  :blush:
I have to do spell card practise all the time!
I swear, the games are getting harder and harder...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds Kyouko hard. Her and Seiga...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 18, 2012, 05:56:45 AM
Subterranean Animism almost broke me.  :fail:

I thought people were kidding when they talked about it's difficulty.

Hold on, I'll call up paletweb (Or whatever people tend to use to get games) and tell them not to sell you UFO or Great Fairy Wars because you're going to shatter.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Raitaki on July 18, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
I can't stream Honest Man's Death while avoiding the lasers.

While playing EoSD against Remilia, when Star of David started, I joked around in my head about how people often advise new players to not glue themselves to the bottom of the screen, moved up, and got instakilled by those huge round bullets spawning right on top of me.

I'm so accustomed with the Touhou games where I have options I keep trying to move down on top of fairies in PoFV and die.

I die to Shikieiki about 3 times, then on the 4th try somehow I managed to win without being hit at all. Huh.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 18, 2012, 03:43:48 PM
The secret to SA - bomb liberally.  The power/bomb system is really forgiving, so once you've done your stage practice to figure out the parts you regularly die on, just toss a bomb on them.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tao-Sensei on July 18, 2012, 03:54:54 PM
I just started playing the extra stage of PoFV, stage 1, vs. Cirno. Cirno pulled a Perfect Freeze, froze the bullets on screen, and made me run into a bullet I didn't even notice until I saved a replay and watched it over 3 times.

Oh, and I made it to the Prismriver Sisters on a 1CC PCB Normal run, and they cut down all 8 of my lives...They're still my favorite characters, though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: FKillThisAccount on July 18, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds Kyouko hard. Her and Seiga...

IMO I don't think they are the hardest, even though I lose a life to either one of them in a run. I think it's MIKO after she says "Playtime's Over"! Her knife nonspell is a claustrophic mess, and while Ikaruga and Guse are not too bad (unfocused is your friend), there's the Laser of Seventeen Articles. You have to actually read the card really properly to find any safespots so you won't get mauled by a cluster of amulets. Her last spellcard also needs a way to herd the "stars" properly too, or you'll die morbidly.

Miko, why does summoning your partners make you realize you have to be stronger!   :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LunarWingCloud on July 18, 2012, 07:25:02 PM
Personally I find Seiga and Miko the trickiest as well. Kyouko's only tricky part for me is the second non-card because it moves so fast for what you're used to at that point in the game, it's a pace-breaker.

Seiga's weird wavy lasers and Miko's pure mass-bullet spam are just like "wha...." for me. I can 1cc TD on Normal almost every attempt with Reimu now, but I am lying if I say I don't have some troubles on Stage 4 and 6 on the way to it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on July 18, 2012, 08:47:11 PM
The secret to SA - bomb liberally.  The power/bomb system is really forgiving, so once you've done your stage practice to figure out the parts you regularly die on, just toss a bomb on them.

More like the secret to clearing all the games. It's just much more abusable in SA and MoF
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on July 18, 2012, 09:00:08 PM
It doesn't seem to work in UFO.  It's like the game wants you to dodge things :<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LunarWingCloud on July 18, 2012, 09:10:18 PM
Damn you Mamizou!! I cannot pass your Wild Deserted Island anymore! I used to be so good at this fight, too! I keep screwing up though on the segment between the midboss and her, and I ALWAYS mess up on her 6th and 7th non-cards (her 5th spellcard is almost never good to me either).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on July 18, 2012, 09:44:12 PM
My power-up (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9527/framingthis.png) isn't working.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on July 18, 2012, 10:02:24 PM
It doesn't seem to work in UFO.  It's like the game wants you to dodge things :<
No, the secret to 1cc-ing UFO is to not make mistakes on the UFO route, so you gain plenty of lives/bombs. Then you can bomb nearly everything.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: MTSranger on July 19, 2012, 11:38:41 PM
GAH I'm getting so rusty. Seriously 7 deaths to VoWG timeout? :V
Totally unacceptable considering what I've done before with that spell...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ARF on July 20, 2012, 12:09:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/rLVGB.jpg)

So close to a good 97.xx :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on July 20, 2012, 01:22:11 AM
Komachi you do not deserve to exist.

I've lost so many attempts that have reached the last shots in ultra 10-3, this spell is just so retarded because of the almost perfect timing it needs to spin around Komachi.  :matsuriscowl:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 20, 2012, 05:49:27 AM
FUCK YOU UFO STAGE 3! JUST, FUCK YOU
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Jx31 on July 20, 2012, 04:49:25 PM
Died at the tail end of "Vajra of Perfect Buddhism" which I have never captured before.  Crap like this seems to be happening far more often lately.

Not sure if this is off-topic but playing Marine Benefit has caused me to see the other games in another light.  Now if only I didn't constantly blow myself up trying to graze every bullet shot in my general direction.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 20, 2012, 06:30:00 PM
Playing IN ultra spell practice, gets to General Headquarters Crisis.
Third try (first past opening wave), dies with a bit of HP left.
~75 tries later, haven't even come close.  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sality on July 21, 2012, 01:23:23 AM
Failed to score 2 Billion in Ten Desires Youmu - Normal run, not even 1.5 Billion in fact.

I shall commit sudoku with my furendo.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on July 21, 2012, 01:29:44 AM
Both 1.5 and 2b are rather good scores, if you ask me. Could you give a replay? I can't really help your route at that level, but I enjoy watching high-level scoreplay.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on July 21, 2012, 05:15:06 AM
Quote
Illusionary Dominance: 01 / 09
Terukuni Throughout the World: 00 / 08

uh
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on July 21, 2012, 05:23:06 AM
That's totally normal. I have 2 captures of Peerless Wind God and 0 captures of Terukuni Throughout the World :V

I can't do that card at all.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Arcorann on July 21, 2012, 05:28:28 AM
Failed to score 2 Billion in Ten Desires Youmu - Normal run
Isn't the TD Normal Youmu WR only 1.902 billion? This statement seems very odd.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on July 21, 2012, 07:28:41 AM
That's totally normal. I have 2 captures of Peerless Wind God and 0 captures of Terukuni Throughout the World :V

I can't do that card at all.

I don't think that's really normal. You guys are probably in the minority here. Terukuni can be handled the same way everytime. It's just a question of moving through the gaps in arrowheads while avoiding the few bullets that there otherwise are. PWG on the other hand is highly random and will therefore be much more challenging to most people.

I don't know with PMW but for Chisou Taizens case i can only say this: You are only 10 runs in so you are probably still getting used to the timing. You will get used to the spell and find it easier with some more practice I'm sure.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 21, 2012, 07:31:10 AM
Actually, the answer here is that they're referring to "Illusionary Dominance", not PWG.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on July 21, 2012, 07:41:15 AM
Oh, right, the Hard mode equivalent is Advent of the Divine Grandson, right? Yeah, I just forgot that :I
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sality on July 21, 2012, 08:31:41 AM
Isn't the TD Normal Youmu WR only 1.902 billion? This statement seems very odd.

Oops,  my bad.
Yes, that's right. It was a mistake on my part.  "I aimed for 1.5 billion at the maximum, but I couldn't reach it, not even close" something like that, is what I wanted to say.

Though having a goal to surpass the world record is fine too :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SuccinctAndPunchy on July 21, 2012, 03:58:06 PM
90fps ultra now

(http://static.tumblr.com/nv5z8ec/QiTlk68p6/challenge-accepted.png)

Roughly 13 Episodes of QI later... (QI episodes are a standard unit of measurement now, because I said so.)

(http://i.imgur.com/gBlae.png)

FYI, that is the total number of shots so far more or less. The original shot count was like 36 due to me copying a savefile to get here faster. My best run thus far has gotten the fifth photo successfully. A grand total of about five times. Of that many attempts. Yeeeah.

I don't really give up. I'll still work at it, but I think this illustrates how bloody excruciating this is.

I quite badly need to stop interpreting passing joke statements as genuine challenges. Then again, I really want to do this now, it has become somewhat personal.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on July 21, 2012, 04:22:36 PM
It does need to be personal. All challenges must be done. Do ALL of the challenges. ALL OF THEM.ocd
________

So, I'm making attempts at the UFO normal 1cc... and I can see why it's up there with SA as the hardest game.
-Gets past stage 4 midboss for the first time
-Gets to boss (Murasa?) for the first time, three lives in stock
-First nonspell: okay
-Spell: no problemo
-Nonspell: mmmyeah
-WHAT THE-
-Okay, okay, no lives and no bombs left, but at least I'll see stage 5.
-Wait what, a timeout spell? *boom*

Still, justice shall be served. Once.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: FKillThisAccount on July 21, 2012, 04:33:18 PM
It does need to be personal. All challenges must be done. Do ALL of the challenges. ALL OF THEM.ocd
________

So, I'm making attempts at the UFO normal 1cc... and I can see why it's up there with SA as the hardest game.
-Gets past stage 4 midboss for the first time
-Gets to boss (Murasa?) for the first time, three lives in stock
-First nonspell: okay
-Spell: no problemo
-Nonspell: mmmyeah
-WHAT THE-
-Okay, okay, no lives and no bombs left, but at least I'll see stage 5.
-Wait what, a timeout spell? *boom*

Still, justice shall be served. Once.

Is she that evil?! I hope the next Touhou game will never have that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 21, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
Is she that evil?! I hope the next Touhou game will never have that.
If you think Murasa is bad...
You haven't seen Shou.

Murasa is hard because of the 2nd half of her fight, the first half is pretty easy.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Raitaki on July 21, 2012, 04:42:36 PM
DS/StB: When I take photos I always take a dive towards the boss, can't count how many time I've crashed and burn that way with my photo frame still hovering on the screen.
All games: Keep thinking I have bombs left, then during hard times I stop dodging and press X, only to see nothing happening and my char dying almost immediately.
IN: While dodging Earth In A Pot I found myself on top of the ring of shikigami just before they started firing. Instant death.
TD: At the Spell Cards Tongling Yoshika and Dao Fetal Movement, I briefly I was dodging CURVED lasers, and so waltzed right into it's incoming path. Shameful death.
PCB: Huh why is Youmu still at the botOH GOD SHE SLASHED ME
SA: I kept shooting the fake Parsee A LOT until a friend told me that the fake spams bullets when I shoot her. Gah.
EoSD: Meh, Curse of Vlad Tepes is easysauce...*stabbed by one of these knives* WHAT.
PoFV: >while dodging got pushed to the right >sakuya uses EX attack >OW WHERE DID THAT COME FROM
MoF: >om nom PoC >momiji appears >onoez time to back down >...right into a の.
UFO: It took a youtube video ~10 tries later for me to realize that I've going the wrong direction every single time against Kogasa's last Spell Card. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on July 21, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
If you think Murasa is bad...
You haven't seen Shou.

Murasa is hard because of the 2nd half of her fight, the first half is pretty easy.

Shou? You compared her to Orin. She's the stage 5 boss then...
Well, she can't be as bad as Orin, or at the very least not as persistent.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 21, 2012, 05:41:13 PM
She's not as persistent (only showing up as the stage endboss), but her attacks rely very little on memorization and a lot on quick reading and dodging.



Why can't I seem to get a solid run of IN ultra extra?  I should be able to do it, in theory, with a life or 2 to spare.  So why in actual attempts do I just get utterly destroyed?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 21, 2012, 06:38:35 PM
IN syndrome. Just practice the cards enough via spell practice and you'll clear convincingly. (how much "enough" is is case sensitive)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 21, 2012, 06:42:33 PM
IN syndrome. Just practice the cards enough via spell practice and you'll clear convincingly. (how much "enough" is is case sensitive)
Typical session: try, fail all 3 of Keine's spells, go to spell practice.
Capture all of them in 1 or 2 tries.
try, fail all 3.
try again, fail all 3.
Give up on capturing them, bomb through them, die to death fairy, tank Mokou's 2nd spell.  Which is very similar to the regular version.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on July 21, 2012, 07:31:22 PM
Yay, I'm getting to Murasa with 4 lives this tiWHAAAAAAAAAA- okay, okay, everything's fine. Still okay, still okARGH dammit dammit... okay, concentrate, concentrate...

*dies third time right before Murasa*

*knife*

And I have not even witnessed stage 5 or the horrors that undoubtedly lie within. I MUST NOT DESPAIR.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on July 21, 2012, 07:49:50 PM
So I was bored and realized I have never played stages 4-6 of UFO on lunatic (because I suck :V) so I downloaded a score.dat, and went to stage practice.

Every one of those stages destroyed me completely, lost all my last life at murasa's survival, shou's 2nd spell and byakuren's 3rd spell.

I'm not ready for this game  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on July 21, 2012, 10:30:02 PM
Typical session: try, fail all 3 of Keine's spells, go to spell practice.
Capture all of them in 1 or 2 tries.
try, fail all 3.
try again, fail all 3.
Give up on capturing them, bomb through them, die to death fairy, tank Mokou's 2nd spell.  Which is very similar to the regular version.

Yep, that's IN. Same thing happens to me (not in Ultra). I go to Spell Practice and can do certain spellcards CONSISTENTLY, and then I always seem to fail the same cards in actual runs.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 21, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
IN has spoilt me with the deathbombing system
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 21, 2012, 10:56:35 PM
I just have no motivation to play TD seriously.

Every time I do everything as planned until Yoshika in which I suddenly decide to stop playing and not bomb and lose all my lives. I literally do not care.

This kind of thing does not happen in any other game.

e: No, I know the reason. Yoshika is generally where you have to start -playing- in TD. But the danmaku is so unfun I have no interest in focusing on dodging. Balls.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on July 22, 2012, 12:32:28 AM
In PoDD lunatic with Marisa, I lost 4 times in a row against Reimu...

I fail so much
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on July 22, 2012, 01:33:36 AM
Parsee was jealous of all my extra lives so she stole them all and left me to do stage 3 with two-fourths of a life.
._.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sanger Zonvolt on July 22, 2012, 02:14:18 AM
Now trying to 1cc EoSD, and failing utterly at Patchi's stage.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 22, 2012, 04:22:27 AM
In the past 24 hours, I've probably died to Yamato Torus about 20 times, and VoWG about five. It never used to wall me when I always played through the stage if I failed, but now that I reset it walls me all the time. Considering i used to be 4/4, practice is not the issue here. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 22, 2012, 04:27:23 AM
time it out-it's really fun.



DAMMIT CHUM WHY DID I AGREE TO YOUR STUPID StB RACE OF CLEAR 30 SCENES UNFOCUSED IT WAS SO STUPID
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LunarWingCloud on July 22, 2012, 04:36:11 AM
Now trying to 1cc EoSD, and failing utterly at Patchi's stage.
Which difficulty? I MAY be able to give advice.

Keyword may.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sanger Zonvolt on July 22, 2012, 07:36:57 AM
Which difficulty? I MAY be able to give advice.

Keyword may.
Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Jx31 on July 22, 2012, 08:10:26 AM
I manage to reach stage six of PCB normal at 90fps with six lives so I was feeling pretty sure of myself.

I lost two lives to Yuyuko's opener, another life was lost to her first spell and I managed to lose TWO MORE to the non-spell after.  I got the game over on her third spell card.  To make things even better all of those lives  except the last were lost with bombs in stock.

Can someone let me borrow their brain?  I think mine is broke.

/face arcade stick
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Drake on July 22, 2012, 08:55:28 AM
vowg you are so beautiful please allow me to beat you

i'll still play you afterwards i promise
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 22, 2012, 09:03:11 AM
vowg you are so beautiful please allow me to beat you

i'll still play you afterwards i promise
qft
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 22, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
fucking fuckity fuck fuck fucking byakuren fucking hijiri fuck you and your last fucking spell you fucking piece of fucked-up fuck
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 22, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
Replace Byakuren with Sakuya.

Also I LOST A PERFECT TO THE STUPIDLY EASY 3RD NONSPELL
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tao-Sensei on July 22, 2012, 08:08:03 PM
Replace Byakuren with Sakuya.

Also I LOST A PERFECT TO THE STUPIDLY EASY 3RD NONSPELL

Speaking of Sakuya, I always die because I misread the knives hitbox or get clipped.
I also just got back from an attempted Lunatic 1cc and died to Sakuya on her last spellcard. The worst part is thather lifebar was one pixel thick.

But that's fine right?

...
No, it's not fine.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Drake on July 22, 2012, 08:30:20 PM
Speaking of Sakuya, I always die because I get hit by a bullet.
i hear you man
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on July 23, 2012, 12:49:10 AM
I hate Momiji's patterns in Double Spoiler.
Why do they have to be so confusing and/or swirly??
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tao-Sensei on July 23, 2012, 12:56:13 AM
I hate Momiji's patterns in Double Spoiler.
Why do they have to be so confusing and/or swirly??

Really? You found them confusing?

I found that after 5 or 6 times reading the patterns that they were a breeze. Don't be afraid to take an empty shot to clear the screen, the film will roll quickly when you miss.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on July 23, 2012, 05:48:30 AM
Murasa, last two spells.

*poof*
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 23, 2012, 06:47:25 AM
Grrrrrrrr... Took a break from Touhou and came back to SA Lunatic after a bit. No death stages 1 through 3. My life count was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Fast forward a bit, and I leave Orin with 3 extra lives. Okuu is totally doable! This could be my 1cc!

1 death to the stage. 2 freaking deaths to Orin's midboss spell. Game over on Peta Flare. So... So close... Yet so far.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on July 23, 2012, 02:15:28 PM
Yes, that happens far too often ._.

I love leaving Stage 3 with 7 lives and leaving Stage 4 with two. So much fun, even if I can do the stage consistently.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on July 24, 2012, 06:38:54 AM
Hey, let's attempt LLS Extra, I haven't done that in a while...

Oooh, I did great at the stage portion, time for Mugetsu...

*encounters a timeout phase on the very first pattern even though I was shooting the whole time*

...

Yeah, fuck you too, then.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 24, 2012, 06:47:42 AM
^How can that happen
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on July 24, 2012, 07:14:38 AM
I was using Marisa, so I didn't have Reimu's spread, and she moved in practically the worst possible way over and over again. She just dodged everything I threw at her.

As it turned out, she had barely a sliver of health left on that phase anyway, when it got to the timeout phase. Not that it really mattered, since as brutal as those timeout phases are, it was enough.

Though I got my revenge, the very next attempt cleared with four freaking lives in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on July 24, 2012, 08:19:49 AM
NOT AGAIN!! Died at 54 seconds left on a 90 fps Scarlet Destiny timeout attempt for the 40th bloody time >_>

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4931/th071.png
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3854/th073.png

1) Fuck my ability to consistently fail an easy, simple spell.
2) Fuck the damn timer up in that corner. I can't seem to not look up at it at around 67-60 seconds left ::)
:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SuccinctAndPunchy on July 24, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vTdVL.jpg)

I have seen the last phase of this, once.

FUCK. EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 24, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
Just failed VoWG yet again after perfecting the rest, probably my 35th time or so, decided to time it out this time instead of resetting and managed to go 57 seconds until my next death. Clearly not a skill issue. :/
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on July 24, 2012, 05:37:52 PM
> Fairy Wars B1 Lunatic

> 267% at Lily White

no points for guessing how well this went.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 24, 2012, 08:15:26 PM
Fairy Wars lunatic, route A1...I failed to Three Fairies.
With a quarter of the healthbar left.
With several completely retarded deaths.

WHY COULDN'T I HAVE CLEARED
NOW I HAVE TO SUFFER THROUGH STAGE 1 AGAIN
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: redlakitu on July 24, 2012, 08:35:13 PM
Let's see... Two lives and SIX bombs wasted on Shikigami "Chen"? Why not? This really should have been my first Extra Stage clear ever, but instead I neglected preparations and wasted literally all my resources, ultimately facing Kokkuri-san's Contract for the first time... with no extra lives or bombs. The result was predictable.

In another run, despite a similar amount of awful mistakes, I managed to reach Kokkuri-san's Contract with two bombs in stock. I lost in the final seconds, with both still unused.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on July 24, 2012, 10:24:45 PM
My TD normal attempts are cursed.

N?1 : Run into a bullet because key stuck.
N?2 : Get hit because key stuck.
N?3 : Perfect up to stage 4 boss, pause game because keys begin to stuck again. Go back to desktop => game crash.
N?4 : Stupid fairy ram because bored as hell by the first stages.

Repeat n?4 again and again...
I quite enjoy the boss fights in this game, but the stages are just tedious.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on July 25, 2012, 02:44:44 AM
I made it to Koishi for the first time today.

>Dies on first spell card

 :V Dang it, ancestors! Don't stand next to my bed!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: FKillThisAccount on July 25, 2012, 03:44:27 AM
My TD normal attempts are cursed.

N?1 : Run into a bullet because key stuck.
N?2 : Get hit because key stuck.
N?3 : Perfect up to stage 4 boss, pause game because keys begin to stuck again. Go back to desktop => game crash.
N?4 : Stupid fairy ram because bored as hell by the first stages.

Repeat n?4 again and again...
I quite enjoy the boss fights in this game, but the stages are just tedious.

Hope you can face Miko though, she is trolling my Normal runs as well.
(Alternatively, bomb/trancespam her to victory
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on July 25, 2012, 04:10:47 AM
NO! God damn it.
Was trying EoSD Extra and after a morning full of failing and getting really annoyed (and trying again minutes later each time) I got to Flan's card with the rainbow coloured shots that fall down for the second time but with a life still in stock (love that card too despite seeing it only twice now) and then my bloody laptop decided that it needed to warn me that my battery was at 7% which minimised EoSD and because I have that fading hitbox patch installed (so it functions like in PCB>) it crashed when I popped it up again  :(  I knew the moment it happened that I was buggered.

Oh and whilst I'm at it, fuck the following:
~ EoSD Extra stage (first half) and Patchy
~ IN Lunatic
~ Imperishable shooting
~ Spell 222
~ SA Hard
~ SA Extra
~ UFO Normal
~ My amazing crappiness
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 25, 2012, 05:40:21 AM
I made it to Koishi for the first time today.

>Dies on first spell card

 :V Dang it, ancestors! Don't stand next to my bed!

The giant lasers are static, the medium orbs are aimed.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 25, 2012, 05:56:41 AM
*makes insanely lucky micrododge while moving with 2cm left on VoWG*
*is amazed*
*forgets to stop moving*

*adds one more notch to wall of shame*
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 25, 2012, 07:57:52 AM
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/Dan_hz/fukshiki.png)

Find three things
that are wrong
with this picture

Missed the last extend
Died with charge at 2 (about to release)
3:03 motherfuck

Surprisingly enough, this wasn't my last attempt, as I had one more. I got to 2:00 after losing all my hits to the last 30 seconds. Of course, THEN she got to her last hit in 1:30 minutes. The former two attempts reached 2:38 and 3:03.
And even with that extra attempt I failed to reach the final extend.
I give up.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on July 25, 2012, 11:39:50 AM
Hope you can face Miko though, she is trolling my Normal runs as well.
(Alternatively, bomb/trancespam her to victory
Well, all of my runs usually reach Miko.
I've practiced the stage 6, I know exactly where to bomb/trance, and yet I still fail every full run, even when I enter the stage with way more resources than needed. I guess "doing exactly as planned" isn't my strong suit.

I'll stop trying and go play something fun instead.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on July 25, 2012, 12:40:45 PM
Just about ready to give up trying to do EoSD Extra. Just reached the last card,, first time I'd ever seen it and the survival before it. Fucked them horribly. Amongst others.  (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22778)
And.
I.
Hate.
This.
Stage.
As well as her two cards after the rainbow coloured one. The one with the two big blue slowly spinning crosses with a heap of red shots coming down plus the one before it. Oh, and Maze of Love is really hard for me. I can't do the circling round thing at all so tiny gaps it is then.

(Most of Flan's cards are good fun though but getting there is super frustrating)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 26, 2012, 01:26:04 AM
Ultra Phantasm without Automatic Deathbombs attempts end at...

Xanadu of Straight and Curve (Bull(shit)ets come in unpredictably due to limit)

Pre-Zen Temple Nonspell (I got too into singing while playing and Yukari punched me in the face)

Shikigami "Ran Yakumo" (Either Ran ran (:V) into me or I happened to be in the path of the butterfly bullets)

:qq:



Just about ready to give up trying to do EoSD Extra. Just reached the last card,, first time I'd ever seen it and the survival before it. Fucked them horribly. Amongst others.  (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22778)
And.
I.
Hate.
This.
Stage.
As well as her two cards after the rainbow coloured one. The one with the two big blue slowly spinning crosses with a heap of red shots coming down plus the one before it. Oh, and Maze of Love is really hard for me. I can't do the circling round thing at all so tiny gaps it is then.

(Most of Flan's cards are good fun though but getting there is super frustrating)

Relax, I feel the same way about Mamizou's stage. Tip:

Circling is ALWAYS easier than gaps because those gaps are fucking pricks probably because you're not supposed to do that in the first place.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Drake on July 26, 2012, 03:04:17 AM
Just about ready to give up trying to do EoSD Extra. Just reached the last card,, first time I'd ever seen it and the survival before it. Fucked them horribly. Amongst others.
Oh boy man guess why you failed ATTWBN and QED? Was it maybe because it was the first time you've encountered them?? No, obviously it's just because the game is too hard and you will never be able to do it no matter how much you practice. You might as well just give up, because that is totally the best way to actually accomplish things.

I watched the replay, and basically everything worth critiquing isn't a matter of "dodge better" (besides QED), it's "you're just doing it wrong".

You did Royal Flare in an odd way that forced you to do more than you need, and you bombed.
You bombed for points in both streaming instances where you could have easily just went along and have two extra bombs.
You have no idea what you're doing on Cranberry Trap. You don't seem to know which waves to stream and which to dodge and where any of the bullets are coming from.
Bombing Maze of Love on your first clear is totally fine don't even hesitate. You might be able to get away with only one bomb, even.
Not sure why you bombed Catadioptric. It's safer in the right corner yeah, but not literally in the corner, and you can dodge it well enough to cap.
You got pummeled by Counter Clock because you're moving too much and can't tell when the laser hitboxes come up.
You did the opening of ATTWBN well enough, but your unfamiliarity with the different waves is what did you over. Plus, you should be tackling the card about 1/4 to 1/3 way up the screen, not in the middle like you were doing.

Stuff like this makes me wonder if you've ever watched a replay of somebody actually doing well, because that would pretty much solve most of your problems.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 26, 2012, 03:23:44 AM
Oh boy man guess why you failed ATTWBN and QED? Was it maybe because it was the first time you've encountered them?? No, obviously it's just because the game is too hard and you will never be able to do it no matter how much you practice. You might as well just give up, because that is totally the best way to actually accomplish things.

I watched the replay, and basically everything worth critiquing isn't a matter of "dodge better" (besides QED), it's "you're just doing it wrong".

You did Royal Flare in an odd way that forced you to do more than you need, and you bombed.
You bombed for points in both streaming instances where you could have easily just went along and have two extra bombs.
You have no idea what you're doing on Cranberry Trap. You don't seem to know which waves to stream and which to dodge and where any of the bullets are coming from.
Bombing Maze of Love on your first clear is totally fine don't even hesitate. You might be able to get away with only one bomb, even.
Not sure why you bombed Catadioptric. It's safer in the right corner yeah, but not literally in the corner, and you can dodge it well enough to cap.
You got pummeled by Counter Clock because you're moving too much and can't tell when the laser hitboxes come up.
You did the opening of ATTWBN well enough, but your unfamiliarity with the different waves is what did you over. Plus, you should be tackling the card about 1/4 to 1/3 way up the screen, not in the middle like you were doing.

Stuff like this makes me wonder if you've ever watched a replay of somebody actually doing well, because that would pretty much solve most of your problems.

Most people who complain constantly despite there being a simple solution are usually too lazy to do the simple solution in the first place.

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Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on July 26, 2012, 04:40:33 AM
Ok yeah, I understand and I'm sorry for how I posted and came off :blush: Honestly, thanks for that.

Stuff like this makes me wonder if you've ever watched a replay of somebody actually doing well, because that would pretty much solve most of your problems.

No, not really. My stance on that has pretty much been "where's the accomplishment if I have to watch someone else do it properly because I can't figure it". Which, I'll admit, is stupid at this point since I just can't or I'm stuck in methods that are harder/wrong.
I had seen Maze of Love done properly and tried it but can't keep up with it and keep control. And I picked up the technique for the very beginning from a replay too but nothing beyond that. I guess I should then. Will have a look at a NBND run from Cactu and/or Mikkey.

As for your points, you're completely right about Cranberry Trap. It confuses me quite a bit. A little because of Flandre's movement at the beginning but yeah, I simply don't know it. I have 5/27 caps and they were all 100% luck. Will take extra note of it and Royal Flare in particular.
Counter Clock, I checked my records and it was the second time I've gotten that far but I can't quite watch the lasers and the red shots at the same time so that's not something I can learn, IMO. [Edit: Well, I was wrong about that, seems I can learn it to some extent]
Catadioptric was pretty much a panic bomb since I was through anyway. I think this one is more intimidating than dangerous but I haven't had enough practice at it.


Quote from: Drake
You bombed for points in both streaming instances where you could have easily just went along and have two extra bombs.
Yeah, I know. That one was just stupid, I normally do the whole stage after Patchy safely without trouble, dunno why I tried and then buggered that >_> Did the books poorly too.


Quote from: Ace
Relax
And this v_v
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 26, 2012, 04:57:14 AM
Five failed attempts. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12426.msg864218.html#msg864218)

At Ultra Phantasm without Automatic Deathbombing. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12426.msg864304.html#msg864304)

This is such a pain in the ass to do but it's going to be SO WORTH IT TO CLEAR.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 26, 2012, 07:06:47 AM
I don't know what it is about SA stage 1 that just makes me make so many dumb mistakes. I think 75% of my attempts at SA Lunatic have been restarts because of dying stupidly in the first stage. Breaking that down even further, 50% of that 75% is to pre-Kisume, 25% of that is to Kisume's midboss spell, and another 25% of that is to the post-Kisume stuff. I've only gotten to stage 6 three times, and each time I've gotten there I've died to the stupidest things like the midboss spell or the first 10 seconds of the stage or the easy streaming bit.

And I really hate how scarce power is in stage 5. Stage 4 is at least doable because of the fairy at the very end that basically refills your power, but the only part in stage 5 that can refill your power is the streaming part, and even that is post-Orin midboss, meaning that since I usually go into stage 5 with so little power thanks to Satori's spells, midboss Orin and the popcorn section right after that results in at least 1 death, with 2 or more being the norm. Also while I'm at it, that popcorn section after midboss Orin is full of BS. Especially since all of midboss Orin's stuff is rather dangerous to time out. Her first non-spell is ridiculously fast and can easily screw you up, her second non-spell isn't as bad... If you're at full power (yeah not likely), and Cat's Walk is obviously just a gigantic mess of bullets coming every which way that necessitates one or two bombs, depending on how much power I go in with.

Oh yeah, the lasers in SA seem to hate me. It seems that I never die because it collides full on with my hitbox. I die because the lasers just barely graze to the left or right of my hitbox, and hits me by what literally seems to be one pixel. That's just the most disappointing kind of death because it feels as though it wasn't my fault (even though it is).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on July 26, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
TD Lunatic; got to Yoshika without dying, my life counter was fucking beautiful at the time (this is ten desires, you see, five lives is a big deal)

Then the laptop gets one degree hotter, causing Windows Vista to throw a bitch fit and lag the game to 20 FPS. Pause, shut the laptop to cool, three minutes later, "TH13e.exe has stopped working!"
:flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 26, 2012, 04:55:15 PM
TD Lunatic; got to Yoshika without dying, my life counter was fucking beautiful at the time (this is ten desires, you see, five lives is a big deal)

Then the laptop gets one degree hotter, causing Windows Vista to throw a bitch fit and lag the game to 20 FPS. Pause, shut the laptop to cool, three minutes later, "TH13e.exe has stopped working!"
:flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv:

And that is why I
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: qno2 on July 26, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
Well, that went better than expected; close 1cc attempt in GFW, made it to the Fairy Overdrive on B2.  And I still don't really know how to tackle this card effectively even though you'd think that I'd get it by now. Sometimes I nearly capture it and other times I waste one bomb and two lives on it.

Knowing me I'll suck for one week in every single attempt I put into this game - guess I should do something else while I'm waiting for my suck-timer to run out. (= after all, anything I do now will fall behind my unreasonable expectations, so I'd rather take a break with a good feeling about this instead of raging about my own incompetence)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 26, 2012, 06:29:58 PM
Yesterday, I was able to get to Shikigami "Ran Yakumo" on Ultra Phantasm.

NOW I'M FUCKING LUCKY IF I MAKE IT TO CURSE OF DREAMS AND REALITY.

WHERE THE FUCK DID MY ABILITY GO
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on July 26, 2012, 07:25:31 PM
Oh man. I ehh... can't PC98 anymore. I couldn't even clear Extra on LLS in the two tries I could be bothered to give it and a lot of the deaths were to slow-moving snowballs. First attempt had three deaths on the stage alone. (Seriously shitty stage too btw but that's just standard for ZUN)

So basically my issues can be boiled down to:

- I have NO idea where the hitbox is. I know it's probably dead center on my character but I have no sense of where it is when I'm not directly looking at the character. Which is something I normally don't do too much.

- Both character's movement speeds feel weird.

- The graphics are ugly as hell and at times stuff can be hard to see because it's blending in with the background or because the pixelated nature irritates my eyeballs. (A very whiny point, i know, but it's seriously easier to dodge stuff when you aren't looking at an ugly mess of pixels)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: qno2 on July 26, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
at times stuff can be hard to see because it's blending in with the background
Not that ZUN ever got rid of this. In PC98 I can actually accept it due to technical limitations but whenever he still does it in the modern games my face just can't contain enough palm.

Due to all the LLS Extra talk I just had to give it a spin, it's been awhile.

I think I unlocked Ultra-mode.

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It began right at the start of the bossfight and prevailed for the rest of the stage. Died to the first pattern of the second boss, herp. But hey, I've got a good excuse!

edit: Tried again... well I did better against the second boss, but the first boss went actually way worse compared to the glitched run. Oh me, I just can't understand you sometimes.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 26, 2012, 08:05:25 PM
I just lost a TD Lunatic run to Miko's spinny spell.

I was 17/18 to an extend.

SHAME.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 27, 2012, 01:29:30 AM
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING TODAY.

I am just FUCKING UP IN THE DUMBEST FUCKING WAYS LEFT AND RIGHT AND THIS HAS PROCEEDED FOR THE PAST FUCKING TWO DAYS.

Attempt PCB Ultra-Extra no autobombs? Completely fucking fine.

Attempting PCB Ultra-Phantasm no autobombs? NOPE!

Attempting to record SA Extra for a Let's Play? NOPE!

Worst part about PCB Ultra-Phantasm without autobombs? THERE IS LIKELY NO VIDEO OR REPLAY OF THAT THAT IS LEGITIMATELY ABLE TO LOCATE EASILY. I make my own fucking strategies for the semi-bullshit cards.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on July 27, 2012, 01:46:59 AM
Ultra phantasm breaks the replays, unless the patch has been altered so there are indeed no replays of it.

However, there are several youtube videos of it, and pretty much every single one I have seen (I have watched two), besides mine which sucks, has a pretty solid strategy and route for handling the stage.

IIRC you can perfect the stage up to Yukari quite easily (The way of handling everything is unchanged), but you could bomb for points once or twice.
Yukari's every non is easily doable, but I think the 5th one could just be bombed.
1st card is a bombspam, unless someone has a solid route for it.
2nd card is an easy capture.
3rd card is heavy dodging, and captureable.
4th card is pretty bullsiht, time a border and bomb if you are uncertain of the bullet paths.
5th card is an easy capture IIRC.
6th can get tricky - hang near to Yukari while circling.
7th card, time a border, pop it to cancel two waves. Bomb if needed.
8th card got some nice improvement, but the way of doing it is exactly the same.
9th card is a bit different, but it is doable. However, you could just bomb.
10th card safespot.
11th card easy capture, completely unchanged in the way of doing it.

-

Doing something for the fact that you could show off with it is usually a bad idea and leads into anger. You should not worry about not having replays, just do it and beat that stage to feel good yourself. Achievements should be personal first, public after.

And you could record live.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 27, 2012, 02:02:54 AM
Ultra phantasm breaks the replays, unless the patch has been altered so there are indeed no replays of it.

So I've been practically killing my shred of an ego for nothing?

...

 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on July 27, 2012, 02:08:38 AM
Average EoSD Lunatic NB attempt:
>Die to Meiling second last
>Die to books
>Die to spam before Patchy
>Die twice (!) to Lava Cromlech
>Die to Illusion Misdirection (!)
>Die twice (!) to Killing Doll
>Die to Young Demon Lord (CLIPPY BUBBLES)

! = What I think is bullshit. I think if I practice more and get lucky I'd get the clear eventually...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 27, 2012, 02:24:28 AM
OH MY GOD I FUCKING FINALLY BEAT TD EXTRA!

NOW TO SAVE THE REP-

*th13.exe has stopped working!*

...I...

...B-but...

...

I think this is the one time that anything has made me legitimately cry regarding these games. I've had the goal of beating this stage for nine months. To have my success wrenched out of my hands by my computer...

It's just heartbreaking.

Everything else I complained about wasn't even that long of a goal when it was realistic.

OH OH OH AND THE BEST PART ABOUT THE REPLAY? IT ENDED WITH TWO LIVES TWO BOMBS REMAINING.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on July 27, 2012, 02:45:54 AM
It's a Mamizou thing >_>

> taizen is trying to beat mamizou, day 15
"holy shit why can't i freaking kill you"
> taizen is trying to beat mamizou, day 16
"huh well i just perfected 4/5 of your fight and cleared with 4 extra lives, yay"
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sanger Zonvolt on July 27, 2012, 03:29:46 AM
at times stuff can be hard to see because it's blending in with the background

Yes, this can be a big problem at times, sometimes I die and didn't ever see the shot or there will be a shot hidden behind a power or score point, I got used to seeing shots behind them now though and just go "Haha, no Zun"

On the other hand I'm opposite about the pixel graphics, and I think they have their charm.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nicholashin on July 27, 2012, 06:16:34 AM
An old one is trying to 1cc items after Kanako's first spell by hugging Kanako  :(
A recent one is WHY TEN DESIRES SEEMS SO HARD~~
I should try to clear IN Extra instead.....
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 27, 2012, 08:56:25 AM
Lol I lose my last life to Hell's Tokamak at 3 power when I know that you get a full power refill before Okuu's last spell card and I know that I can definitely clear it on 4 power. Why must I take so many dumb risks... I even failed the spell card already... Why would I not just bomb the hell out of it?

Also I seem to lose lives to the BoWaP fairies. I don't understand how that's happening. I just don't know what's going wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on July 27, 2012, 11:56:17 AM
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/869/eosdexresults.png
Why did I only use two bombs ??? WHY?  I got 9 caps though >_>

1 death to the fairy immediately before Patchy
1 death to the books'
1 death to Flan's second non-spell
1 ridiculously stupid derp death to Laevateinn
1 bomb to Catadiatropic
1 bomb to the survival
Then died at the end of the survival with just 1 bomb left. I can't dodge the blue shot pattern at all.

God I'm so close to clearing this. I figure I'll need a couple lives for Q.E.D, should be able to do that too :3
Oh, and the score is abysmal because I'm trying to play it safe and ignore points items.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: DNAbc on July 27, 2012, 05:09:36 PM
I didn't manage to get a replay, as I rage-continued.

While I am on my attempt to 1CC Remi normal, I had 4 lives (no bombs) from the start of Stage 6, looking pretty good, I guess.

Died to Ripple Fairies, acceptable, I kind of predicted that one anyway, down to 3 lives 3 bombs

Sakuya, whoops, accidentally screwed up, lost a life and a bomb

Eternal Meek, the last bomb ended at the start of the spell, and I got hit when I am thinking if I should bomb again or not. :V

So basically, I started from 4 lives down to 1, nice job screwing up this one.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on July 27, 2012, 09:27:28 PM
I failed a PCB Lunatic no death no bomb stage 3 attempt on Alice's last spell after successfully clearing everything else.  :fail:

I'm guessing this will happen a few more times until I get it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LunarWingCloud on July 27, 2012, 10:07:11 PM
Oh hey we're talking about TD Extra in here.

I should arse myself to actually clear the damn thing again. BUT I CANNOT AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 27, 2012, 10:44:53 PM
And that is why I
  • Refuse to use a laptop
  • Refuse to use Windows Vista
  • Refuse to use a laptop with Windows Vista on it
I agree with all except 1.

I remember when I was playing UFO and on Shou's first spell I died to it on normal.

And knowing myself for being an idiot who needs faster reactions when Touhou'ing I HAD 4 FUCKING BOMBS IN STOCK ASFDHDHITDKGZJGXKGXIGXKGIGDIGXJV

I blame myself.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on July 28, 2012, 12:09:39 AM
My reqular computer has been having some trouble with stuff like any Touhou game or MAME lately.

Since I am unable to get the computer fixed in time, I have spent the last few days getting into the controls my secondary computer has. Which is not going too well.

For example, I spent four hours today, restarting PCB stage 1 on normal since I am unable to control Reimu on 100% static stuff. And the mistakes were not due to unlucky RNG, they were all entirely my fault. I am too slow getting into new conditions of gameplay, which really has been making me suck lately. Suck enough to think about full quitting, but I am not at that point yet.. It's just the pressure. First UFO and now this, it has not been my summer shmupwise, really.

I have done nothing since that IN easy magic team score and it feels like I have been gradually getting worse. I mean just look at the current weekly, I actually tried and got beaten by some kid who I have never thought of as a formidable foe. It is very, very depressing.


Fortunately STGT is still so far away, I have two full days to get back into shape, since some people are waiting me to pull off miracles.

This really is not fun anymore. And fun was my main motivator.


Sorry for the rant, I really had to let some steam out after all the big depressing failures of this summer.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on July 28, 2012, 01:15:59 AM
I also consider this an accomplishment on my part, but I'm friggin raging at the fact that I was so close too D:

I was bored and decided to do a phantasm run with Sakuya. I fail through the stage portion HORRENDOUSLY, beginning Yukari with no lives.

:colonveeplusalpha:

...and then I make it all the way to Danmaku Bounded Field somehow, even capturing Double Death Butterfly for the first time o:

:D

...and then I die on wave 2 somehow.

... :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 28, 2012, 02:21:06 AM
Attempt to perfect TD Normal.

Die to Stage 1 midboss.

Attempt number two.

Die to Yuyuko's first nonspell.

OTL
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on July 28, 2012, 04:22:50 AM
Never again will I use Marisa, NEVER AGAIN
JUST ALMOST FUCKING FAILED A 1CC
I die on Meilings last because I ran into bullet
I die on streaming books because I ran into laser
I bomb twice at stream section because memo fail
I fail every spell of Patchy except Forest Blaze and Lava Cromlech
Backed up into a kunai on Sakuya second non
Backed up into a knife on Sakuya third non
Bombed Eternal Meek but still died.
Almost captured Gensokyo but the waves of four bubbles, FUCK that last wave. I moved too much and died to the bubble
BACK TO REIMUA BECAUSE MARISA SPEED FUCKING SUCKS
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on July 28, 2012, 05:15:33 AM
Never again will I use Marisa, NEVER AGAIN
JUST ALMOST FUCKING FAILED A 1CC
I die on Meilings last because I ran into bullet
I die on streaming books because I ran into laser
I bomb twice at stream section because memo fail
I fail every spell of Patchy except Forest Blaze and Lava Cromlech
Backed up into a kunai on Sakuya second non
Backed up into a knife on Sakuya third non
Bombed Eternal Meek but still died.
Almost captured Gensokyo but the waves of four bubbles, FUCK that last wave. I moved too much and died to the bubble
BACK TO REIMUA BECAUSE MARISA SPEED FUCKING SUCKS
Lulz take it easy man, I fail trying to make an EoSD 1CC everyday, one day I'll open the extra mode. At least you didn't die on Cirno's Perfect freeze like me :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on July 28, 2012, 05:21:00 AM
  • Refuse to use a laptop
  • Refuse to use Windows Vista
  • Refuse to use a laptop with Windows Vista on it
Failing Mamizou's first 2 card 4 times in a row.  After perfecting the stage part 4 times in a row.  There are no words for how angry this made me.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on July 28, 2012, 05:42:18 AM
Lulz take it easy man, I fail trying to make an EoSD 1CC everyday, one day I'll open the extra mode. At least you didn't die on Cirno's Perfect freeze like me :(

When I use Marisa I feel like I'm going to crash into a bullet.
Maybe it's time to stop blaming the movement speed and realize that I just suck at Touhou lol
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on July 28, 2012, 05:47:23 AM
Hello UFO, it's good to see your gimmick for gaining lives and bombs is still fundamentally broken.

By which I mean fuck you and you can fuck off.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 28, 2012, 06:01:16 AM
I decided to let the 1 up from stage 5 Sakuya midboss fall off screen :(

But I did manage to reach Remilia in the same run. And seeing as how this is only my 3rd run through EoSD Lunatic, there are probably going to be many opportunities in the future to beat Meiling/Patchy/Sakuya/Remilia, especially since I don't find stage 1 as rage worthy as SA stage 1. All I have to do is learn how to do all the stuff I had trouble on...

And I'm also calling it now that about a week from now, I'll still be struggling with this game as every run through this game will have about 50 derp deaths to just about everything :V.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on July 28, 2012, 07:27:51 AM
Fucking computer, you did it again
Stop fucking overheating or I swear to god I will upend a vat of boiling oil onto you and then we'll see if you'll complain about being hot
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 28, 2012, 07:31:48 AM
Fucking computer, you did it again
Stop fucking overheating or I swear to god I will upend a vat of boiling oil onto you and then we'll see if you'll complain about being hot
Play Touhou underwater.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 28, 2012, 07:37:40 AM
Play Touhou underwater.
But not too far underwater. (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Marine_Benefit/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_105)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Drake on July 28, 2012, 07:38:54 AM
[01:34] <~Drake> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[01:34] <~Drake> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[01:35] <~Drake> ADJGVASHADCHGGFVBSD

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22842

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I AM SO FUCKING DUMB
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yao-Kun on July 28, 2012, 10:54:46 AM
Yes I'm going to 1cc hard for 1st ti--
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--

(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp218/archaozz/th12.png)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on July 28, 2012, 11:47:33 AM
Had Seiga not said go for no deaths I may have been happier with this
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3503/flanclearnobombs11caps.png
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22844

1 death to the stupid books (which I'm pretty much ignoring), 1 death to the survival at 3 seconds left and 1 death at about the last quarter of her health of Q.E.D. Which honestly should have been 2 or 3 deaths watching the replay.
And I'm pretty sure I won't be able to do Q.E.D, it's hard, lol.

Still, that was the third attempt after a few hours so I think there's a chance of at least getting the 12 caps in one run. Maybe if I bomb through Q.E.D I might be able to get no deaths  ::)
Is that cheap? I know I can't do NDNB

Edit: Another random attempt, captured Q.E.D. on a run that failed 3 others >_>
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5343/qed.png)
So I guess it's at least possible then, just a matter of not f'ing anything up for once : /
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nicholashin on July 28, 2012, 03:15:55 PM
After I gain access to play Marine Benefit, I learnt the following:
1. This game is much harder than it looks.
2. Megumi is sadist, brutal and ruthless.
3. Laptop keyboard can help you to unfocus randomly.
4. Megumi's survival is crazy.
5. Marine Benefit may be very easy to capture, but it is impossible to timeout.
6. Megumi's infamous non-spell deserves its fame.
7. You can never stop shooting at the right time to get more graze on easy attacks.
8. I like to timeout Megumi's 2nd non-spell more than capture.
I stayed at the middle. -.-
9. You can unlock Extra by 1cc Easy.
10. Megumi likes walling me in her 2nd spell.
11. Piercing is awesome.
12. I can somewhat graze the Megumi's arrow?

READ: I HATE MEGUMI  :flamingv: :flamingv: :flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on July 28, 2012, 04:19:45 PM
Bombed Eternal Meek but still died.

This shouldn't ever happen, on either Marisa shottype. If you time MarisaA's bomb so that you bomb right as the bullets start reaching you, the invincibility should be just long enough to last through the whole thing, and you won't have to dodge anything.

And Marisa has the better bombs so you can hardly blame that on Marisa can you ;)

1 death to the stupid books (which I'm pretty much ignoring)

The books are not that hard compared to Four of a Kind or Starbow Break IMO, maybe you're doing it wrong?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 28, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
He said he's ignoring it, I assume, because he agrees with you that they're easy.

Eternal Meek as ReimuA is also easily doable with one bomb. I don't know about ReimuB, though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 28, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
Just game overed on GFW Extra. So much harder to look at with 1/2 frameskip, but it drops to 30fps every time I freeze if I don't. :/
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on July 29, 2012, 02:12:08 AM
Failed another TD Normal 1cc attempt at Futo due to extreme derpage and failure to deathbomb.
WHY?

I gotto find out the best places to trance....
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on July 29, 2012, 05:20:52 AM
The books are not that hard compared to Four of a Kind or Starbow Break IMO, maybe you're doing it wrong?
He said he's ignoring it, I assume, because he agrees with you that they're easy.
Yeah, that.

And about Starbow Break, had a run early today with 3 deaths and 11 captures. Failed Starbow Break and the survival. It's more disappointing than anything else.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 29, 2012, 06:14:31 AM
Failed another TD Normal 1cc attempt at Futo due to extreme derpage and failure to deathbomb.
WHY?

I gotto find out the best places to trance....

Is preemptive bombing such a taboo thing? I know this is coming from a guy who deathbombs more than he bombs and often succeeds, but it's best to avoid what you suck at so that you can succeed at what you're good at and in all, succeed at your current goal.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: redlakitu on July 29, 2012, 07:45:55 AM
Is preemptive bombing such a taboo thing? I know this is coming from a guy who deathbombs more than he bombs and often succeeds, but it's best to avoid what you suck at so that you can succeed at what you're good at and in all, succeed at your current goal.
That's a reasonable approach. However, in my opinion, TD Normal barely has anything threatening in the first five stages. Couple that with the rather limited resources this game has, and there's a strong temptation to just capture everything and conserve resources for Miko, who I think is much harder than all the earlier bosses combined.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Arcengal on July 29, 2012, 08:46:32 AM
A week ago, I 1LC'd Ten Desires Hard from pretty much no practice in the last month.

Today I failed a 1CC of PCB Hard (with 12 misses total) on the sixth wave of Ressurrection Butterfly. Youmu absolutely destroyed me and I made countless stupid mistakes in stages 3 and 4. And I game over'd to a blue bullet, not a red one.

Seriously hacked off right now. Probably says a lot about TD but more about overconfidence and blah and fuck it, I need a drink.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Piranha on July 29, 2012, 01:19:42 PM
Aya. I hate you. You and your ability to kill me on the very last second of Illusionary Dominance. And for general douchebaggery (i.e. taking 4 of my lives).
And I hate myself for playing along.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on July 29, 2012, 10:00:04 PM
DAMMITTTTT DAMN YOU MIKO.

... I mean. Good job Miko, you managed to clip me with a horrendously idiotic death, then troll me with your spells letting me survive Royal Clan's Chaotic Dance when I should've died.
...And then kill me on Honour Blahblahblah.

GREAT job Miko :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on July 30, 2012, 01:52:08 AM
I feel pretty frustrated with how I can seem to only get perfect Easy clears on Imperishable Night and Ten Desires.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on July 30, 2012, 05:11:13 AM
*Tries to pull a TD Normal NoIntentionalTrance/DeathSkip (I can't use my death trances to skip a spellcard but I'm free to attack if it's mid-stage fairies that will go by anyway) NoBombs NoFocus Youmu run*

*deathbombs on Miko's second nonspell*

OTL

Dammit dammit dammit dammit DAMMIT.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on July 31, 2012, 04:20:19 AM
Lost a perfect Stage 6 Yuuka on Normal.

To her LAST PHASE.

whyyyyyyyyyyy :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 31, 2012, 04:31:59 AM
whyyyyyyyyyyy :qq:
LAST PHASE.

Seriously though, that sucks. If you're going for PC98 perfects, learn to savestates in place of stage practice. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on July 31, 2012, 05:40:12 AM
I dislike EoSD. Bubble bullets are ridiculously clippy, and combined with my inability to read bullets in that game... Just ew. At least when I play other games in the series, I can plainly see how I screwed up. With EoSD... Often times I don't see how, and it's just frustrating while trying to make a complete run through the game.

Also have I mentioned I hate bubble bullets? I'm fine with Yuugi's bubble bullets. Patchy? Sakuya? Remi? No. Just no.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on July 31, 2012, 07:23:27 AM
That one death cost me a lot of bombs and I failed to break 2.3 billion (http://i.imgur.com/PDENU.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on July 31, 2012, 11:17:36 AM
That one death cost me a lot of bombs and I failed to break 2.3 billion (http://i.imgur.com/PDENU.jpg)
Shot? I'll see what can I do to help your route.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on July 31, 2012, 12:41:07 PM
Also have I mentioned I hate bubble bullets? I'm fine with Yuugi's bubble bullets. Patchy? Sakuya? Remi? No. Just no.
You're not playing ReimuA Patchy. There's your problem.

The hitboxes are shit but the game is really fantastic otherwise.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on July 31, 2012, 01:18:40 PM
The hitboxes are shit but the game is really fantastic otherwise.
A bit obvious
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on July 31, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
>Me attempting the UFO normal 1cc
>Doing better than ever before, enter Minamitsu's final spellcard with 6 lives and 3 bombs

Sister: WHATCHA DOIN?
*starts prancing around me spouting random gibberish* (she's as old as me, for god's sake)

>Die thrice to Sinker Ghost
>Gameover at Shou's third spell

*sister settles down*
"Looks stupid." *walks off*

Me: ...
...
............
*cries*
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on July 31, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
No Death Phantasm Stage Portion with 1 or 2 bombs (forgot, prolly 1) and 1 border break accidentally. Happy with that.

>Yukari
>Curse of Dreams and Reality
>Cousin comes in
>Dies twice
>End spell, extend get
>Proceeds to die game over to Xanadu of Straight and Curve

;3; it should not happen. it should be impossible for such a thing to happen ;3;
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on July 31, 2012, 04:16:14 PM
Another extra runner to crash and burn? Let us share in our misery. <_<

Perfected the entirety of UFO Extra stage portion for the very first time.
First death to Blue UFO, previously 5/5, now 5/6.
Second death to Danmaku Chimaera.
Third death to Danmaku Chimaera.
Ragequit. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on July 31, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
Shot? I'll see what can I do to help your route.

I was using Youmu solo but I don't have a replay because I didn't feel it was anything special and I haven't touched IN in ages so I didn't know what I was really doing.

Maybe you can take a look at this one instead? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18031)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on July 31, 2012, 07:27:44 PM
Mountain of Faith normal 1CC fail at Mountain of Faith spellcard =(. Next time I'll have more faith in myself and use lesser bombs to bomb all at the end.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 01, 2012, 12:34:28 AM
I almost 1cc'd EoSD. Died to the aimed bubble bullet barrage in the non card before Scarlet Meister.
Then I went back, watched the replay, and found out that all my deaths when I had bombs left were to bubble bullets.

I still hate those things.

You're not playing ReimuA Patchy. There's your problem.

The hitboxes are shit but the game is really fantastic otherwise.
That's like saying that an FPS is fantastic... Except the controls are jittery. Good luck getting any one to play that.
PS - Yes I know that's not a perfect analogy, just go with it :V.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on August 01, 2012, 03:02:13 PM
Oh... my... god.... (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22937)

Reached Devil's Recitation with 3 lives no bombs, died once to devil's recitation, it had about 1/2 life left... and I decided against better judgement to not bomb...

I died again and ultimately reached LFS with no extra lives 1 bomb...

In the end I reached the red phase of LFS before gaming over...

I almost 1cc'd UFO Lunatic... I'm going to cry now...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on August 01, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/539053fail.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=539053fail.jpg)

One bomb.
I just needed one bomb to clear this (or try not to have Ran going berserk ; I guess it's because of the timer...).

On the bright side, first time seeing the last four spells, in one single run. I can do it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on August 01, 2012, 06:31:09 PM
Going for No-Death (because it's SO easy now that I cleared TD Hard). Just look at Guze Flash. And read my comment. :colonveeplusalpha: (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22941)

Oh well, still got the parallel ending, which was what I wanted to do anyway (out of boredom) :P
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on August 01, 2012, 07:35:25 PM
Oh... my... god.... (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22937)

Reached Devil's Recitation with 3 lives no bombs, died once to devil's recitation, it had about 1/2 life left... and I decided against better judgement to not bomb...

I died again and ultimately reached LFS with no extra lives 1 bomb...

In the end I reached the red phase of LFS before gaming over...

I almost 1cc'd UFO Lunatic... I'm going to cry now...

I know that feeling. I am also vehemently trying to 1cc UFO (on Normal). Just died while Devil's Recitation was disappearing. It must get unbearable on Lunatic.

Still, if it's solely to bombing, that only shows that you can do it. Sweep up the debris and go at it again. Perseverance shall prevail!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on August 01, 2012, 08:59:18 PM
Oh... my... god.... (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22937)

Reached Devil's Recitation with 3 lives no bombs, died once to devil's recitation, it had about 1/2 life left... and I decided against better judgement to not bomb...

I died again and ultimately reached LFS with no extra lives 1 bomb...

In the end I reached the red phase of LFS before gaming over...

I almost 1cc'd UFO Lunatic... I'm going to cry now...
Yeah, you're pretty much there. A little more and you can officially welcome the euphoria.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on August 01, 2012, 09:02:29 PM
Something I learned when I was going for my first 1ccs of UFO Hard/Lunatic: if you die on a phase that you normally bomb, expect to bomb right after that. I've lost count of the number of times I attempted to finish off the remaining health after a death and died a second time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on August 01, 2012, 10:19:58 PM
Continuing to alternate your height with the spawning of each bullet wave (even while bombing) minimizes that successive-bombing problem.  Or so it did for me.
shit
Bigger is better.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on August 02, 2012, 02:16:11 AM
Bigger is better.

A fellow anti-hater of EoSD hitboxes? We should be friends.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 02, 2012, 02:51:17 AM
NOOO!!!!!!!! I got SO close it wasn't even funny!

I failed at Resurrection Butterfly with 4 seconds left. I got right in the path of the blue and purple butterflies... I'm so stupid! What's worse is that I had 1 bomb in stock. I was so close to 1cc'ing PCB Normal. WHY? :(
*sulk*

I'll try again tomorrow...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on August 02, 2012, 12:13:00 PM
I died on Byakuren's last spell.  :colonveeplusalpha:

VENGEANCE SHALL BE HAD, YOU WENCH.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: MMX on August 02, 2012, 06:52:08 PM
I've just tried SA hard for a first time ang got raped by Yugi :smokedcheese:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on August 02, 2012, 07:01:01 PM
I've just tried SA hard for a first time ang got raped by Yugi :smokedcheese:

I know that feel, bro. :3
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 02, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
Tried TD for the first time on Lunatic and I used up all my continues and I didn't even beat Seiga
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on August 02, 2012, 09:45:17 PM
Semi-blind run of Marine Benefit Lunatic. Which means:

- Having seen it played by Jaimers
- Having tried and failed a Hard credit of an earlier version
- Having done a test run of the first two stages but restarted due to deaths.

So I got to Stage 5 with 7 lives or such. That stage reduced my lifestock to 2. Lost the rest on Stage 6.

Thoughts: Fun game until you hit Stage 5. Then you face off against a boss with one of the stupidest gimmicks I've ever seen. Now this isn't stupid because I died a lot to it or anything because I die a lot to many things. This is stupid because there isn't any dodging involved with most of these patterns. It's just memorization combined with the moronic idea that having you get killed by seemingly nothing would somehow be fun.

Well. Let me tell you. It's not. Dodging random bullets is fun. Having to plan out a route and follow it as a robot is not.

Then comes Stage 6, where I run into this annoying Stage 6 midboss which is basically the Stage 4 boss returning from a course about being retarded with like 50 seconds of survival nonsense that's stupid just because I say so. My time with the spell is very limited since I kinda game overed on it and didn't feel like continuing so I feel that this is a good place to stop this rant.

EDIT: I managed to perfectly pacify MB Stage 3 Lunatic up to a certain static piece of shit spell that comes up there. Was my first try so I didn't expect anything especially because I knew that spell would be there.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: MTSranger on August 02, 2012, 10:46:23 PM
Thoughts: Fun game until you hit Stage 5. Then you face off against a boss with one of the stupidest gimmicks I've ever seen. Now this isn't stupid because I died a lot to it or anything because I die a lot to many things. This is stupid because there isn't any dodging involved with most of these patterns. It's just memorization combined with the moronic idea that having you get killed by seemingly nothing would somehow be fun.
I'm pretty sure on lunatic Megumi's stuff require actual dodging skills - even if they are really rage worthy.

Well. Let me tell you. It's not. Dodging random bullets is fun. Having to plan out a route and follow it as a robot is not.
Ah I assume you're complaining about the bullshit survival card.
Well I'll give that to you. If you misalign your movement by a couple of miliseconds in the circling phase you die.

Then comes Stage 6, where I run into this annoying Stage 6 midboss which is basically the Stage 4 boss returning from a course about being retarded with like 50 seconds of survival nonsense that's stupid just because I say so.
Which character were you playing with? Reimu's has been solved and is actually rather easy to capture.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 03, 2012, 12:53:37 AM
Which character were you playing with? Reimu's has been solved and is actually rather easy to capture.
It's easy...IF you know the trick to it. Very big if. Because if you don't, losing tons of lives to it while thinking it's a survival is completely understandable.

If it helps any, here's how you do it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGEXZeqm_pQ). You have to stay next to the middle stream for Kasumi to show up, and there have to actually be bullets there for it to happen, which means basically that she has bomb immunity.

As for Megumi...yeah, Eight Million Laughing Gods is memoshit, and you have to know where to be for Dance of the Stars (hint: push the bubble near the bottom), but other than that it's pretty much pure dodging.

The real bullshit card, and the one I came here to rage about, is this one:

(http://i.imgur.com/AVQzM.png)

Seriously, how in the fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on August 03, 2012, 01:50:21 AM
If it helps any, here's how you do it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGEXZeqm_pQ). You have to stay next to the middle stream for Kasumi to show up, and there have to actually be bullets there for it to happen, which means basically that she has bomb immunity.

I'll be sure to try that out next time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 03, 2012, 04:16:25 AM
Spell in question (Eight Million Laughing Gods) (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Marine_Benefit/Spell_Cards/Stage_5#Spell_Card_086)

As quoted by the nostalgia critic... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTNP792ykYM) (With alterations)

Quote
This is stupid! This is stupid! Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid!
STUPID! STUPID! IT'S SO INCREDIBLY STUPID! This is the most unfair shit I've ever seen in my life!

And a lot of stuff that I don't think this card deserves yet I feel I should say anyway because I hate this card.

It STOPS. OUT OF NOWHERE. YOUR SAFE ZONES COME TO A DEAD FUCKING HALT. It is by far, the WORST spellcard that I have EVER played. At least in other games that have borderline unfair shit, you don't go from being forced to move unfocused WITH AN ARGUABLY SLIGHT DELAY MIND YOU to the area THAT LETS YOU NOT DIE COMING TO A COMPLETE FUCKING HALT WITH NO GOD DAMN INDICATION, which is by far the worst of dick moves I've seen any video game do to me next to a Pokemon game freezing right after I caught a shiny Pikachu when I saved only to corrupt the entire fucking save. I can think of nothing besides that that was worse than this.

And the worst part? You get to relive it OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN and since there's no spellcard practice system you have to go through the same stage over and over again just to practice ONE FUCKING CARD. This is the only card that I've played of hers that I HATE. Every other card in her fight is at least fair. At least you can play and enjoy them. If you're like me, you don't even fucking BOTHER with practicing the stage because FUCK IT you're not going to memorize something like THAT. It takes a GENIUS to memorize that. Maybe Otohime's penultimate card is worse but at least you're able to build a fuckton of lives and you get what I call one of the most fun Extra fights I've ever played to make up for it. Megumi isn't even that good all-around.

You either need REALLY DAMN GOOD REACTION TIME for this, or the ability to play Touhou backwards, relying on muscle memory. Speaking of which, I'm going to try to play EoSD Easy backwards and see how far I get :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 03, 2012, 04:19:26 AM
Speaking of which, I'm going to try to play EoSD Easy backwards and see how far I get :V
I did that with IN easy a while back.  Made it to Stage 4  :V

and yeah, having played that card for the first time I am inclined to agree.  It's retarded.
Like the pre-spam part of Stage 6 and whatherface's 3rd card.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 03, 2012, 04:25:49 AM
I sucked horribly.

Another idea: Play any game on Normal or higher while barely allowing myself to see. Sound good?

Is there a program out there that just makes random shit move all over the screen and disable you from seeing shit at random? I'm talking about a scenario like Distraction News, where you're trying to pay attention to one thing while a bunch of other shit is going on in the background, making it really fucking hard to concentrate.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 03, 2012, 04:52:24 AM
Like the pre-spam part of Stage 6
It's just basic streaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfmf65Gkmw) once you learn it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 03, 2012, 04:54:27 AM
It's just basic streaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfmf65Gkmw) once you learn it.
I could have sworn that was one of the first things I tried but I got rammed.

Oh wait: that's what happened because Megumi's survival tends to leave me with 0 power.  How do you do that part at 0 power?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 03, 2012, 03:01:12 PM
GOD DAMMIT CAMTASIA STUPID STUDIO

I SPEND 40 MINUTES RECORDING A DOUBLE SPOILER EPISODE AND YOU REPLACE IT BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO START RECORDING DIRECTLY AFTER I STOPPED AND JUST SCRAP THE 40 MINUTE RECORDING

GOD DAMMIT I FUCKING HATE YOU NONE OF THE FUCKING SCREEN RECORDERS WORK RIGHT FOR ME WHAT THE FUCK

I HAD ENJOYABLE COMMENTARY AND NOW IT'S ALL FUCKING LOST. I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME AND I HATE CAMTASIA STUDIO MORE THAN I HATE HITOGATA HAPPA
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 03, 2012, 03:43:22 PM
HITOGATA HAPPA
DON'T MENTION THAT GAME AGAIN


BTW instead of double-posting...


>Plays UFO normal
>Perfects stage 1
>Dies 2 times to the stage and 2 times to Kogasa and used 2 bomb
>Dies 1 time to the stage and one time to Ichirin and Unzan
>Perfects stage 4
>Gameover'd to stage 5 first fairies when trying to collect a UFO


:persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on August 03, 2012, 07:27:50 PM
I did that with IN easy a while back.  Made it to Stage 4  :V
So... How can one actually do that? Play backwards, I mean. Sounds intriguing.(ALSO FUCK IPHONE CAN'T EVEN CHANGE THE LINE I'M WRITING IN WITHOUT ACTUALLY FILLING THE LINE WITH WRITING)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 03, 2012, 07:30:41 PM
So... How can one actually do that? Play backwards, I mean. Sounds intriguing.
I'm assuming Esu meant without looking at the screen.  It's really hard due to randomness and almost 0 chance of a reactive deathbomb, even with Border Team.  You have to rely on music cues and sound effects to do pretty much anything.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: MTSranger on August 03, 2012, 07:57:43 PM
I could have sworn that was one of the first things I tried but I got rammed.

Oh wait: that's what happened because Megumi's survival tends to leave me with 0 power.  How do you do that part at 0 power?
Exactly the same way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka7I_7bGo-k

EDIT:
Bombed once during stage and then proceed to no bomb Suwako... could've been NB extra run  :derp:
Also hurr durr died in Suwa War by sitting stupidly on the line that the bullets are spawning  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 03, 2012, 09:22:50 PM
I think I just spent half an hour failing Double Spoiler 8-6.

OH MY KANAKO WHY?!?!?!?!!?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 04, 2012, 06:08:46 AM
I think I just spent half an hour failing Double Spoiler 8-6.

OH MY KANAKO WHY?!?!?!?!!?

For Double Spoiler, 30 minutes isn't bad at all.

I spent at least FIVE HOURS on 7-1 (Obviously in separate bursts but still) when I was still a rather new player.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Skyler on August 04, 2012, 06:27:57 AM
I tried to pacify EoSD stage 4 on Easy and I would have perfected the whole thing if not for the double K.O. to Patchouli's final card (Lava Cromlech) ._.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 04, 2012, 02:32:09 PM
FUCKING. HELL.
WTF IS UP WITH UFO AND IT'S MINI-UFO'S ALWAYS CHANGING RED IN AN UNREACHABLE PLACE, BOSSES APPEARING JUST AS I WAS ABOUT GET 2 LIFE PIECES AND THUS DESTROYING THE NEAR-FULL UFO, UNZAN AND HIS FAT FISTS, SHOU'S CURVAY UNNEEDED FUCKING LASERS AND BYAKUREN'S LAST SPELL.

FUCK YOU UFO FOR MAKING ME RAGE, CUSS AND SCREAM AT YOU, FUCK YOU FOR MAKING ME KEEP PLAYING SO I CAN GET THE EXTRA STAGE AND FUCK YOU FOR MAKING ME RANT ABOUT THIS ON MOTK WHICH WASTES OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME.
And also fuck you keyboard for ghosting and preventing me from moving in directions which will save my life and preventing me from deathbombing properly.


Oh crap I might have broke my X key :qq: :qq: :qq: :qq: :qq:


Actually I'm glad I took anger management classes at school or I might have had an AGK episode. I really don't want to have to use preset score.dat files to unlock the extra stage but the pressure and anger is at a peak level inside of me now  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: XephyrEnigma on August 04, 2012, 02:58:57 PM
I sucked horribly.

Another idea: Play any game on Normal or higher while barely allowing myself to see. Sound good?

Is there a program out there that just makes random shit move all over the screen and disable you from seeing shit at random? I'm talking about a scenario like Distraction News, where you're trying to pay attention to one thing while a bunch of other shit is going on in the background, making it really fucking hard to concentrate.

Keep a video player on in the background and play something really silly(bonus points for hilarity) and see if that works.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: AnonymousPondScum on August 04, 2012, 11:20:58 PM
Kogasa?

We need to talk.

There's something you need to know. And that something is that you're not a good person.

No seriously. You have given me more grief than any other stage 2 boss I know. I don't even know why.

UFO is full of cheapshot jerks. But you win a SPECIAL GOLD STAR STICKER for possessing cheapness out of your stage-league. Congratulations.

BUT I WON TODAY.

I WOOOOOOON.

I PERSEVERED AND KEPT GOING.

(And then I got thoroughly humbled by the horrible hazing ritual that is UFO stage 5. It wasn't even fighting Shou. :fail: It was the fact that EVERYTHING in Makai cranks out 10 shitloads of bullets AND travels in packs, which means 500 SHITLOADS OF BULLETS ALL DAY EVERY DAY.)

Why must my favorite characters all be such vicious cheapshots? :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 04, 2012, 11:48:15 PM
siiiiiiiiiigh.

I can't seem to do anything right lately. Every single challenge I've tried, across multiple games and without exception, has failed too many times to count. And I can't think of any new ones.

Touhou is supposed to get me out of my depression, not be another cause of it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on August 05, 2012, 01:32:42 AM
Crap. I died on kokkuri-san's contract on a run where I "perfected" the entire rest of the stage including Izuna Gongen. And not just once, but twice :V.

Oh well, this means a no-death no-bomb no-borders-broken run should happen soon

EDIT: It happened again
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 05, 2012, 04:29:23 AM
ATTN: Mamizou Futatsuiwa:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_653_4FsTEfc/TQEhN_9agoI/AAAAAAAABVk/YcIZ66fm8co/s400/die_in_a_fire.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 05, 2012, 04:41:32 AM
ATTN: Mamizou Futatsuiwa:
What are you going for?  I gave up on NBNT runs for a while due to 4 straight first spell deaths followed by 4 straight second spell deaths >.>
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 05, 2012, 05:09:55 AM
No-horizontal WDI timeout.

166 attempts wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for two of them ending within a second of the clear. One was so close the bullets actually dispelled before the "retry" message came up.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on August 05, 2012, 07:18:08 AM
I discovered how easy it is to near-pacifist through PoDD, and now I want to puke up my guts then curl into a ball and die.

What does a clear even mean?  At what point does stalling, or simply minimizing/breaking chains, switch from being a tactic to being cheese?

I don't know how much of what I've done with each clear, so I don't know what, if anything, I've actually accomplished.  The other seven felt 'legit', but I think that I'll have to re-do them - or at least re-do Kana and Mari (and Ellen) since the other five were noticeably easier - without any intentional pauses so there won't be any doubt.  But those two took the best I had, with tons of practice and stress, so it hurts to admit that much of that time and effort was wasted on doing things incorrectly.  Or that the exhilaration from getting those clears is as good as fraudulent until proven otherwise.

I felt so close to this goal and now I have no idea where I'm at.  Besides not there.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 05, 2012, 10:04:23 AM
>Makes it to Stage 5 with full lives,
>Game over'd to Shou.
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/367/385/8ac.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on August 05, 2012, 10:51:37 AM
What does a clear even mean?  At what point does stalling, or simply minimizing/breaking chains, switch from being a tactic to being cheese?
Oh man, I've thought about this. The purpose of the game starts to seem very intangible, which is part of the reason I wanted to improve all of my scores, as a kind of concrete goal. I don't think you should worry about the line between tactics and cheese though. It's not what the game's about. Nobody gives a crap about PoDD. You don't prove anything to anyone by playing it. It's just you and the game, and it happens that the harder you fight it, the harder it fights back. I think it's too dorky to say "it's about the journey, not the destination," but yeah. Play it because you want to, until you're satisfied by it, not to reach some definition of success. If that means redoing the runs until you're happy with them, then so be it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on August 05, 2012, 01:45:04 PM
Oh man, the final spell on Marine Benefit Stage 4 is annoying. Playing as Reimu that is. What is with these amulets? I think their hitboxes are larger than they usually are.

In which case, fuck you game. Don't use amulets unless they are gonna have amulet hitboxes because if you make a very similar bullet type but with a different hitbox then it's bound to mess me up because I'm used to these bullets giving me more leeway.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 05, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
FUCK YOU TOUHOU 12 - UNDEFINED FANTASTIC OBJECT
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 05, 2012, 06:27:16 PM
Marine Beneift Stage 1
+3 lives, 1 bomb used for graze

Die to last spell of Stage 1

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT PIECE OF CRAP


GFW A1 lunatic
Best ever Stage 1!
3 deaths to Stage 2  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Naut on August 05, 2012, 08:02:07 PM
FUCK YOU TOUHOU 12 - UNDEFINED FANTASTIC OBJECT

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2eann8l.png)
That's it, feed your anger... Let the hatred flow through you!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 05, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
Idon'tknowwhatthatis.jpg
That's it, feed your anger... Let the hatred flow through you!
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/368/475/a01.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SuccinctAndPunchy on August 05, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
NIGHTMARES.GIF

Holy shit what the fuck why would do this to me. I will see this face in my dreeeeams.  :ohdear:

In other news.

(http://i.imgur.com/6iEIF.jpg)

Why the fuck haven't I actually managed to do this yet.

I have seen the last phase once. Once. Goddamn ONCE. I still strangely find it at least not enraging, but this many attempts has caused it to go looong past the point of being enjoyable.

Somehow, I don't think stacking as many fan made difficulty increasing mods as I could on the game was a great idea.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 05, 2012, 08:30:15 PM
No lives lost to MoF Stages 1-3 Normal
Lost about two lives to Aya.
One or two to Sanae.

I make it to Kanako with five-ish lives. I lose about one life to each spell. I manage to dodge "Mountain of Faith" until half of Kanako's health is left.

(Crashes into amuletwall)

FFFFFFFFF...........

 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 05, 2012, 08:31:15 PM
Holy shit what the fuck why would do this to me
becuase
anyway i have scary gifs if you want them  BV


e: no wait why did I have to die on Kogasa's nonspell again aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: FKillThisAccount on August 06, 2012, 05:37:29 AM
No lives lost to MoF Stages 1-3 Normal
Lost about two lives to Aya.
One or two to Sanae.

I make it to Kanako with five-ish lives. I lose about one life to each spell. I manage to dodge "Mountain of Faith" until half of Kanako's health is left.

(Crashes into amuletwall)

FFFFFFFFF...........

 :colonveeplusalpha:

After 3 failed MoF Normal 1cc attemps with ReimuC (because it's a effective fairy [buster]):
Aya, Sanae and Kanako have at least one spellcard that I consider plain ridiculous. ESPECIALLY AYA. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HER SPELL CARDS EXCEPT HER SURVIVAL AND LAST SPELL!  :getdown: I'm going to spell card help later.

BTW, did you bomb a lot during that run?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 06, 2012, 05:49:58 AM
Welp thank you Adobe Flash for being poorly coded and slowing my system down, and doubly thank you to MSE for randomly using up my processor with your real time scans.

Doing a Ten Desires Lunatic run, get to Seiga with a reasonable life/bomb count. Suddenly, MASSIVE LAG SPIKE. The screen froze, and when it came back (couldn't pause during that time), I was down two lives. Sigh.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on August 06, 2012, 07:00:11 AM
Hey Zil, thanks for the thoughts and for trying to cheer me up.  I was distraught, and typing (and rethinking, and retyping...) that post was my way of working through things.  Still ended up being immature, so I apologize (to everyone) for that, but it was good for me to re-read it today.  And though I didn't say it, I was interested in what you and any other PoDDers thought about it, so I appreciate the response.

Of course it has to be about getting something out of the game itself.  I'm immensely grateful to now know some of the people I've met through shmups, but I sure as hell wouldn't be playing these cursed things for a pat on the head.  It's simply that the pacifist realization took the wind out of me, and though it might not have been clear through the whining, I was looking for some way to resolve the issue to my satisfaction.  Again, largely bitching, but I was open to anything I might have overlooked.

That said, the scoring idea is a fine approach, but you can keep it.  I might stick around and score a bit like I did with PoFV, but only after I have 1ccs that I'm happy with.  While both goals involve maintaining a level of difficulty, one is a number and the other is victory.  No comparison in motivation factor (or in concreteness).  I'll need to play a bunch of credits before I know for sure how much of a restriction will work, but offhand I think that 'not intentionally missing any enemies' would be well-defined, reasonable, and sufficient.   Further, I think that 'not intentionally breaking any chains' would put a crimp on tactics and would mark the break between survival and (ideal) scoring.  There might be other options, but those are the two that I'm seeing.

Regardless, I'm liking the way forward, and I'll post the 8/9 characters 1cc-ed accomplishment once I've done it to my satisfaction.


All of that makes the following seem absurd, but I'll preface it by saying that it started out of spite, and it then became a silly goal once I realized that it wasn't going to be the cakewalk I anticipated (it took almost five hours).  Behold, the power of Chiyuri (http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1523/poddchiyuri1cc50msplits.png) cheese (http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4979/poddchiyuri1cc50msummar.png).  Aside from the first four-ish rounds, which I played full-tilt (to retain my sanity), the dichotomy of the gameplay was almost comical: tap-dodging in a near-empty screen for about half a minute, then dealing with a relentless shitstorm for another half a minute.  And I thought Ellen was hazardous to use because of reflectable bullets... Chiyuri's high speed and handicapped charge aren't even footnotes when compared to the insanity of boss battles (and the lvl2 doesn't help).  Anyway, this hammered home the absurdity of playing like this and the necessity of imposing some sort of restriction, so it wasn't completely pointless.  And I have a long way to go before I can get a full-tilt Chiyuri clear, or before I even decide to start banging my head against that wall, so this'll suffice as a silly trophy for the interim.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Pirate on August 06, 2012, 09:15:51 AM
I hate you Sanae. I'm here to beat Koishi, not you.

Get out of my life you scum.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 06, 2012, 10:04:32 AM
I swear I'm gonna find what Tigers fear the most and shove it in Shou's face.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on August 06, 2012, 03:11:35 PM
FUCKING SHIT

I was trying to do a lunatic SanaeA run in Marine Benefit and almost perfected Kasumi.

Failed the last second of the last spell.

why this

EDIT: Then I fail the run at Mikoto's third spell. Fucking great.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on August 06, 2012, 04:02:48 PM
I JUST DIED AT THE LAST SECOND OF RESURRECTION BUTTERFLY 50%.

Timer was at 00. How can such things happen, seriously ?  :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 06, 2012, 04:07:59 PM
>Makes it to Stage 5 with full lives,
>Game over'd to Shou.
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/367/385/8ac.gif)

FUCK YOU TOUHOU 12 - UNDEFINED FANTASTIC OBJECT

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/368/475/a01.gif)

Fuck the idea of just bombing everything when you have literally 16 bombs at your disposal, a total of TWENTY-FOUR MISTAKES, when there are not even eighteen moments to fuck up left in the game, not counting what you can still obtain.

I JUST DIED AT THE LAST SECOND OF RESURRECTION BUTTERFLY 50%.

Timer was at 00. How can such things happen, seriously ?  :fail:

It's called a Double KO. A lot of people suffer this.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 06, 2012, 06:14:48 PM
Fuck the idea of just bombing everything when you have literally 16 bombs at your disposal, a total of TWENTY-FOUR MISTAKES, when there are not even eighteen moments to fuck up left in the game, not counting what you can still obtain.
I don't know what you just said but I'm agreeing with you because you're a better Touhou'er than me by miles.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 06, 2012, 06:15:59 PM
I don't know what you just said but I'm agreeing with you because you're a better Touhou'er than me by miles.
He's saying if you reach Shou with max lives don't try dodging anything if you have bombs in stock.  If you get 4 bombs in Stage 6 you can have 2 lives for Flying Fantastica, more if you don't bomb the easy stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 06, 2012, 06:18:32 PM
He's saying if you reach Shou with max lives don't try dodging anything if you have bombs in stock.  If you get 4 bombs in Stage 6 you can have 2 lives for Flying Fantastica, more if you don't bomb the easy stuff.
Okay then. But anyway I'll stop playing UFO for a while
not
and I might move onto SA.
Sorry for raeging too much
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 06, 2012, 06:25:44 PM
Mmm, that was a shame. That run could have very well been the one. Captured everything but Scarlet Meister, and Remilia's movements on said card were ideal. Ah well, I still recommend watching this replay:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23057

Watch as I deal with Sakuya's non-spell by going through two walls, make sure Young Demon Lord never walls me, dodge unfavorable waves in Vampire illusion, and prevent Scarlet Gensokyo from putting me in any very bad positions.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23058

This replay's specifically for anyone wondering how to survive when Vampire Illusion sends walls at you.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on August 06, 2012, 07:50:30 PM
I'll need to play a bunch of credits before I know for sure how much of a restriction will work, but offhand I think that 'not intentionally missing any enemies' would be well-defined, reasonable, and sufficient.   Further, I think that 'not intentionally breaking any chains' would put a crimp on tactics and would mark the break between survival and (ideal) scoring.  There might be other options, but those are the two that I'm seeing.
Sounds reasonable to me. Odds are if you don't feel like you're cheesing the game, then you aren't. The whole idea is player defined anyway; it's not like the game tells you what's cheesing and what isn't. In any event, it shouldn't be too hard to decide how you want to play it. I do recommend trying to "play for score" a bit once you've got your clears though. The scoring is ridiculous and unpredictable, but I think the gameplay it seems to encourage (spamming level 2's then hanging on for dear life) is worth experiencing. It turns Kotohime into a completely different character, for example.

And I can understand the rage at discovering that the way you've been playing the game is actually making it harder, and that the easiest strategy is some absurd mockery of everything you've been doing. It's quite unsettling, to say the least.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 06, 2012, 10:28:03 PM
After 3 failed MoF Normal 1cc attemps with ReimuC (because it's a effective fairy [buster]):
Aya, Sanae and Kanako have at least one spellcard that I consider plain ridiculous. ESPECIALLY AYA. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HER SPELL CARDS EXCEPT HER SURVIVAL AND LAST SPELL!  :getdown: I'm going to spell card help later.

BTW, did you bomb a lot during that run?

Yes. I bombed so much in the latter half of the game, that I was never at full power during most of the boss fights.

Also, Yay, another failed attempt at MoF 1cc Normal. But with continues I did eventually beat Kanako.  :V :V :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on August 07, 2012, 07:15:03 AM
Double KO to Q.E.D. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlgPez5kpQ), first time that's occurred that cost me a potential capture. You may want to take note of my life/bomb count.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 07, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Double KO to Q.E.D. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlgPez5kpQ), first time that's occurred that cost me a potential capture. You may want to take note of my life/bomb count.

Ahh.. The QED. That happened to me 6 times before finally getting it.
I think it's because when you hear explosion you stop dodging, at least it was like that for me.
So yea, it happens to everyone ;_; Just keep trying cause you're really close.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on August 07, 2012, 09:43:14 AM
I know not to stop dodging when the explosion begins (unless the game is Touhou 8, in which case I start trying to graze as many bullets as I can before they vanish)... but looking closely at the video, it seems I thought the bullet that hit me would be lined up with the bullet to my right, when it was actually closer to the bullet to my left.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 07, 2012, 11:28:48 AM
*Insert complaint about how a certain keyboard problem made fondueloser gameover at St Nikou's Air Scroll*
RAEG MODE ACTIVATED
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on August 07, 2012, 07:18:58 PM
3 lives, 1 bomb, LFS.
"OH MY GOD.  I CAN DO THIS, I CAN ACTUALLY WIN!" I shout naively, my eyes glistening with tears of joy.

***a bit later***

*Pichuun*
"OH MY F-----------------------------------------------

What do you want from me LFS... why... (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23075)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on August 07, 2012, 07:52:41 PM
... At times like these it's best to look at the bright side; you'll undoubtedly come with a cooler head next time you face the damn thing.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RegalStar on August 07, 2012, 08:17:18 PM
I downloaded PCB Ultra and gave Ran a try. Made it to the last card, figured that safespotting is probably not going to work with the ultra patch, so I broke a border early on.

Then I proceed to find a (mostly) safe spot and NDNB'd the rest of the card.

This happened on my first clear of normal game Ran as well. History repeats itself?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on August 07, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
Nindel: if misery loves company (http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6585/namusaaaan.png).

Watched your stage six.  [I know you didn't ask for help, but I felt vicarious pain watching the end of your LFS because I used to do the same thing and it screwed me up every time until I realized what was going on.]  For LFS, I suggest staying toward the bottom of the screen when you bomb.  By the time Byakuren's invincibility ends, you're already forced back down, so you haven't done any extra damage.  And her attack is position-dependent, which is why you got two (different-than-usual) clusterfucks after those bombs.

Just fyi: this also means that you can manipulate the patterns a bit by changing your height.  I settled on alternating between just off (not hugging!) the bottom of the screen and about 1/4 the way up the screen, but the benefit could have been just as much mental as anything (I watched Jaimers do something like it, so of course I picked it up and felt empowered when I did it).  But if you're already used to what you've been doing then it might throw a wrench in the works.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 08, 2012, 01:38:54 AM
Karisa inspired me to make this, I had to dig around my folder for quite a while (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuFMM3JxFNg)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Retsim Reklats on August 08, 2012, 08:49:50 AM
My latest failure was..
I'm trying to get all the point, Life and bomb fragments and power-ups after I beat a boss (in this case, Seiga) by rushing up to the item get line only to be defeated by her curvy lasers..  :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 08, 2012, 09:24:55 AM
Hey, let's attempt MoF Normal at 120 FPS.

*multiple counts of the game not bombing when I tell it to*

*game over at mountain of faith*

... :flamingv:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on August 08, 2012, 01:02:47 PM
Another run ends to the very very last second of LFS (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23086), heh... this time reaching LFS with 3 lives no bombs, but I actually captured Devil's Recitiation and Superhuman (and died to Magic Butterfly because I was a bit too close to the laser... my bombs!! ;_;)

... At times like these it's best to look at the bright side; you'll undoubtedly come with a cooler head next time you face the damn thing.

Yes, I had a cooler head this time, it did help, but LFS is still super scary :ohdear:

Nindel: if misery loves company (http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6585/namusaaaan.png).

Watched your stage six.  [I know you didn't ask for help, but I felt vicarious pain watching the end of your LFS because I used to do the same thing and it screwed me up every time until I realized what was going on.]  For LFS, I suggest staying toward the bottom of the screen when you bomb.  By the time Byakuren's invincibility ends, you're already forced back down, so you haven't done any extra damage.  And her attack is position-dependent, which is why you got two (different-than-usual) clusterfucks after those bombs.

Just fyi: this also means that you can manipulate the patterns a bit by changing your height.  I settled on alternating between just off (not hugging!) the bottom of the screen and about 1/4 the way up the screen, but the benefit could have been just as much mental as anything (I watched Jaimers do something like it, so of course I picked it up and felt empowered when I did it).  But if you're already used to what you've been doing then it might throw a wrench in the works.

Thanks, I tried following your advice and it helped alot, it actually got her hp down alot more (almost... almost beat her) than my earlier run, and I had less resources in total, so it works, definitely.
I just have to muster more resources next time I get to Byakuren... and stage 6 is crazy when trying to gather as many resources as possible (latest stage 6 I had to fit in a Red UFO into the mix of greens and blues, crazy town!).


Urghh, I'll get there eventually, don't know how many more days of grinding and restarting stages 1-3 I'll have to do though, haha  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on August 08, 2012, 01:15:42 PM
Thanks, I tried following your advice and it helped alot, it actually got her hp down alot more (almost... almost beat her) than my earlier run, and I had less resources in total, so it works, definitely.
I just have to muster more resources next time I get to Byakuren... and stage 6 is crazy when trying to gather as many resources as possible (latest stage 6 I had to fit in a Red UFO into the mix of greens and blues, crazy town!).


Urghh, I'll get there eventually, don't know how many more days of grinding and restarting stages 1-3 I'll have to do though, haha  :derp:
You shall most definitely pass. Please. I want to see another video.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LadyScarlet on August 09, 2012, 02:21:14 AM
Fuck you Patchouli and your non-directional laser nonspells. And here I thought I was finally gonna clear Stage 4 in practice mode. D:<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 09, 2012, 04:30:46 AM
I didn't fail anything.
DS, 12-6, reclearing it, I have 5 photos and I'm charging up for the last, with no lasers anywhere near me.
Random death glitch happens.
I cleared it next attempt, but RAEG
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Retsim Reklats on August 09, 2012, 04:47:37 AM
I didn't fail anything.
DS, 12-6, reclearing it, I have 5 photos and I'm charging up for the last, with no lasers anywhere near me.
Random death glitch happens.
I cleared it next attempt, but RAEG

Whoa.. Awesome, man. :3

And my next failure (That I still remember) was... that infamous wriggle kick.
Seriously, the first time I played IN I never expected her to appear suddenly like that..
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 09, 2012, 04:56:11 AM
EX-5, why do you exist.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 09, 2012, 05:34:29 AM
I hate you, Rainbow Danmaku. You have made me fudge up my IN Normal runs one time too many. Kaguya Houraisan, prepare to lose.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on August 09, 2012, 09:56:54 AM
Died at the very end while trying to time out Illusionary Pavillion with Marisa.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 09, 2012, 11:48:24 AM
Fucking hell, MB Lunatic Stage 6. WHYYYYYYYY.

I mean, seriously, this thing is a blight on humanity. Where do we start...

- Horrendously boring stage portion (seriously, UFO Stage 6 is less dull than this)
- Pointless extra midboss where you die repeatedly of bullshit if you don't already know the card
- Regular midboss card isn't bullshit but still really hard and I hate it with a passion right now because it's my #1 timeout goal and I've gotten clipped more times than I care to count
- First nonspell is misdirection after misdirection after misdirection that takes forever and still loves to clip you
- First spell is pure bullshit, bullets coming from absolutely fucking nowhere
- Second nonspell is absolutely begging for clipdeath
- Second spell, hope you're at full power, oh of course you're not, you got clipped earlier somewhere, too bad, you fail the card before you even start it
- Third nonspell is usually decent, but lengthy and you might get walled, still a lot better than most of the stuff here
- Third spell...FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
- Fourth nonspell *walled*
- Fourth spell, holy crap an attack that doesn't suck, where did you come from
- Last spell why are you so utterly boring don't make me fall asleep please.

I do not envy the person who attempts to perfect this shit. By which I mean if you're thinking of it, don't.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on August 09, 2012, 01:39:18 PM
So stressed for nothing. Again. My hands were actually freezing up on Reflowering due to the tension. Fuck. Had I not done such awfully against Youmu.. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23119)

It's enough shit-shit touhou playing for the day. Time to continue my journey with STGT. I might make a score submission with this with a deeper look into the run, but it all feels in vain now, with the score only being so pathetic.
Made it anyway. Pretending I care. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,156.msg847150.html#msg847150) Shitty shit.

This is ridiculous. Oh well.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 09, 2012, 11:40:40 PM
>first perfect run to make it to Grudge Bow
>dies to the first wave of the first phase

I think it's in my sanity's best interest to take a little break?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 10, 2012, 02:53:00 PM
DS 9-7
current "hi-score": 220144
current best shot: 225095

What the hell ZUN.

edit: of course the one time I keep a 120k first shot I clear it again.  Whatever, I'll take my 70k points and leave.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 10, 2012, 11:48:45 PM
I fail so hard at UFO... its... there are no words...

 :fail: :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 11, 2012, 01:40:33 AM
Oh hey UFO

You mind being less tedious to score at? Did you say "yes"? Well, then we have a problem because I hate tedious scoring systems like Strikers 1999, DoDonPachi's entire fucking series, and V-V.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 11, 2012, 02:17:31 AM
I fail so hard at UFO... its... there are no words...

 :fail: :fail:
Just failed Nightmare of Heiankyou twice in two runs. That's embarrassing <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: MTSranger on August 11, 2012, 03:22:58 AM
hurr durr Marine Benefit lunatic attempt ended in Megumi's bullshit survival.
Marisa not a good girl.

The good thing is, I captured "Dance of the Stars" AND "Eau-De-Vie" in that run.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/w70br6.jpg)

Welp, at least I can now translate the bad ending.
Translation for picture above:
Even though it may look like playing if you watch from the other side,
this is Marisa's special training. You must not disturb her.
BAD ENDING.
Try clearing without continues next time!

I'll put the rest up in touhouwiki.net
EDIT: done ~
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Marine_Benefit/Story/Marisa%27s_Bad_Ending (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Marine_Benefit/Story/Marisa%27s_Bad_Ending)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 11, 2012, 06:13:54 AM
Was somehow failing all over my Ten Desires attempts, so I decided to switch to UFO to see if I could unlock stuff for stage practice and what not.
Stage 1: Ok not bad. Everything is very doable.
Stage 2: Oh well the stage isn't really that different from Hard... Oh but holy crap Kogasa has become even harder. I can't even see a way to do her first one besides getting lucky.
Stage 3: Beginning of the stage isn't bad... Oh holy crap what is up with those fairies that shoot out half of an arrowhead on one side... Holy crap they're walling me! Holy what th- *picchun* Oh hey midboss Ichirin. I see that your first non-spell has somehow changed from being blazing fast to being really dense. That's cool. Yeah it only took me about 10 continues to get the rhythm down for your spell card. Still not bad... Ok so let's see what the rest of the level has in sto- holy crap those fairies are shooting literal walls! Bomb bomb bomb. Streaming, circling, etc. Hey again Ichirin. Still can't read your first spell card for beans because Unzan obscures my vision. Alllll riiiight. Second spell card is basically the same as Hard mode. Nice. Aaaand holy crap freaking long fast walls of death! Bomb bomb bomb. Final spell card? Immediate bomb. Welp. Stage 3 only took me... 7 continues to clear.
Stage 4: Wow everything is the same as hard mode. Just denser/faster. I see that the fairies that shoot those wall things are really dickish now, as they cover the screen with gigantic walls of death. Oh hey Murasa what's up? ... Why did all of your non-spells become much faster while the rest of your spell cards stayed more or less the same? Why in the world can I never stay under you in your second to last spell card? Well, at least I can still bomb right through you. Stage 4 took me 4 continues to clear.
Stage 5: Holy wtf I have no idea what I'm doing just dodge just dodge just dodge bombombombomb. I see no way of doing this stage without either seriously awesome dodging skills, or memorizing a precise path to go through everything. 5 continues later... Whew I finally made it to Shou! Let's see how she goes... First non-spell? Bombed. First spell card? Bombed. Second non-spell? Bombed. Second spell? *Picchun* even though the laser was literally invisible when I tried to go through it. Oh joy. ... Yeah I'm done with this crap.

Wow UFO is just so... brutal. I also have this sinking feeling that I will only unlock stage 6 for practice when I 1cc the game. I highly doubt I'll be able to beat Byakuren with just 2 lives, 6 bombs, and 2.66 extra bombs from UFOs. Guess I just gotta practice the hell out of the first five stages until I can muster up enough resources to bomb spam my way through Byakuren.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on August 11, 2012, 10:09:59 AM
Wow UFO is just so... brutal. I also have this sinking feeling that I will only unlock stage 6 for practice when I 1cc the game. I highly doubt I'll be able to beat Byakuren with just 2 lives, 6 bombs, and 2.66 extra bombs from UFOs. Guess I just gotta practice the hell out of the first five stages until I can muster up enough resources to bomb spam my way through Byakuren.
You can summon 4 green UFOs before Byakuren. I was able to clear Lunatic stage 6 (replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20298)) with a lot of bombing and continue spamming, and some luck on Legendary Flying Saucer. Though I never ended up actually playing stage 6 practice before my 1cc (didn't feel like playing it again after 50 or so continues that basically gave me the practice I was looking for anyway).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on August 11, 2012, 10:39:01 AM
Trying UFO normal aswell.
Reached Murasa with 7/2.
Max lives before Shou.
Captured her first spell for the first time ever.
Reached Byakuren with 5/2.
Bombed everything after the opener, entered last spell with 2/0.
Died with 2 bombs left.
Game over at 5%.

*headdesk*
 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on August 11, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
So I was trying a Hard 1cc of Mountain of Faith again.

This is the outcome. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=1298)

Please give me some advice. I can bear the micrododging no longer.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 12, 2012, 12:35:02 AM
WHY?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 12, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
[attach=1]

This was my first time making it to even Stage 4. On the bright side, at least I perfected Stage 2. But still, FUCKING HELL YUYUKO
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 12, 2012, 11:34:19 PM
Sigh I tried twice to 1cc UFO Hard with ReimuA. I failed both times to Aura of Justice. SanaeB has spoiled me. The stages are so much harder without her spread shot, but adjusting to how slow Reimu's movement is while she's bombing is also really annoying. That's gotten me killed more times than I can count.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 13, 2012, 02:34:14 AM
Tried out Double Spoiler for the first time.
I had trouble on the second stage... It's just so confusing. I thought Aya was fast!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on August 14, 2012, 12:35:40 PM
>Great Fairy Wars, playing Normal. Attempting route A2.
>Reach the three fairies with 631% motivation and 2 perfect freezes.
>"I've totally got this"
>Die four times on first nonspell
>...
>Gameover at Fairy Overdrive

We are not amused.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 14, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
I got my ass handed to me by CAPTAIN MURASA twice on UFO Normal. Both times, it ended my 1cc run.

MUST... TRY... AGAIN!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Apparition on August 14, 2012, 09:57:44 PM
So, I got a game over on SA normal during Utsuho's 2nd nonspell. That's okay, it's not like I ever want to 1CC this or anything.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on August 15, 2012, 01:15:06 AM
I died to Hailstorm :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 15, 2012, 02:35:11 AM
I think I need to take a break from Touhou for a bit. I really like UFO, but I'm dying to the easiest patterns for no good reason.

Also, consistently pulling off a good UFO path is really hard. I should just opt for the less efficient but more consistent path. Less frustration.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 15, 2012, 03:12:03 PM
>90 FPS UFO normal
>ND1B first 2 stages
>siblings come into the room MAKING TONS OF NOISE
>random death x2, waste 2 bombs in Stage 3 before the streaming part at the end
>run over

AND THE NEXT ATTEMPT IS EVEN BETTER
[attach=1]
Look at the health.  Now at my bombs.  Now at the FPS.
Yeah.

Next attempt has 6 lives no bombs coming out of Stage 3.  I summon a red UFO during Nue.
I break it too soon, whatever.
I die to Nueball
ragequit.  Screw this game.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 15, 2012, 07:33:21 PM
Tried out UFO normal with MarisaA for the lulz.

>Goes into Murasa fight with about 6 extra lives
>Goes into Stage 5 with 1.

What is this I don't even...

EDIT: I just realized this is my 100th post... wow.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 16, 2012, 05:17:27 AM
Accidentally reset when continue spamming for practice stages. Anyone have a score.dat that has UFO Lunatic stages unlocked for MarisaA?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 16, 2012, 05:44:55 AM
Tried out UFO normal with MarisaA for the lulz.

>Goes into Murasa fight with about 6 extra lives
>Goes into Stage 5 with 1.

What is this I don't even...

EDIT: I just realized this is my 100th post... wow.

(http://www.wpclipart.com/computer/keyboard_keys/letters/computer_key_X_T.png)

This is your best friend. I mean there's not much reason to brag with a 1cc run beyond the 1cc itself, captured cards are just a bonus but the goal should matter most.

EDIT: Rewritten to get what I had actually meant to say out. I apologize for the original version. That wasn't intended as mean as it was. I am sorry.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on August 16, 2012, 06:40:32 AM
Reminds me of the stage practice runs where I've died seven times to Ichirin. (I never have that many rescources on full runs, so I just gameover if it comes to that)

And the full runs where I've died three to four times to normalmode Reflowering.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on August 16, 2012, 04:38:34 PM
Died at the very end while trying to time out Illusionary Pavillion with Marisa.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

Pretty much the same thing happened but this time with Sea and Sky Turbulance.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on August 16, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
Muh... being annoyed with my brain's terribleness. Too many slip-ups in paying attention and too slow to act properly. Can really become annoying. Today, I tried pacifying Greatest Treasure like six times and I died three times on five of those simply because something caught me off guard and hit me.

I'd wish I knew of a way to practice reaction time.  :V Since mine is pretty bad.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on August 16, 2012, 11:34:50 PM
I'd wish I knew of a way to practice reaction time.  :V Since mine is pretty bad.
90fps man! And you're not allowed to complain about Reimu's movement speed. >=[
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 16, 2012, 11:40:10 PM
(http://www.wpclipart.com/computer/keyboard_keys/letters/computer_key_X_T.png)

This is your best friend. Seriously, is your X key broken or something? You shouldn't make it to Murasa and use TWELVE MISTAKES when you have bombs. I mean SERIOUSLY, that makes no damn sense. The most amount of mistakes that someone should have against Murasa is one per card, which is less than nine.

Well, I'm not the best UFO player out there, and I have pretty bad reaction time... sometimes I just completely fail to deathbomb...  :blush:

Anyways, game over'd to Shou because I crashed into her at the beginning of her last spellcard...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 17, 2012, 12:05:57 AM
(http://www.wpclipart.com/computer/keyboard_keys/letters/computer_key_X_T.png)

This is your best friend. Seriously, is your X key broken or something? You shouldn't make it to Murasa and use TWELVE MISTAKES when you have bombs. I mean SERIOUSLY, that makes no damn sense. The most amount of mistakes that someone should have against Murasa is one per card, which is less than nine.
peak
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Skyler on August 17, 2012, 12:43:51 AM
let's 1cc eosd lunatic by the 15th, I said
it will be fun, I said
look at this I've barely put any work into it why am I complaining bleh
I can't wait until MoF and SA arrive in a week. I need new games because these 3 are so boring for me right now.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on August 17, 2012, 12:59:10 AM
Failed a Perfect PCB extra run on Izuna Gongen.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 17, 2012, 04:38:25 AM
Accidentally reset when continue spamming for practice stages. Anyone have a score.dat that has UFO Lunatic stages unlocked for MarisaA?
Gonna bump this request. Tried again, actually beat Shou the third time I got to her, which was awesome, but Byakuren is evil, and it's stupid to have to beat stage 6 with 2 starting lives for the option of playing the stage with 9.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 17, 2012, 04:42:37 AM
Died to Two Claps One Bow
Died to Snake Eats the Croaking Frog

Ok, enough Suwako for today
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 17, 2012, 05:16:38 AM
Well, I'm not the best UFO player out there, and I have pretty bad reaction time... sometimes I just completely fail to deathbomb...  :blush:

You know, bombing isn't reserved for deathbombs. You CAN just bomb at the start of a card.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 17, 2012, 05:35:09 AM
You know, bombing isn't reserved for deathbombs. You CAN just bomb at the start of a card.

That's a waste. If nothing else, you should have a planned point where you will bomb, no matter how well it's going. But bombing at the start before any bullets come near you is a waste.

And, was it really necessary to lay into her like that? No need to get angry at people for mistakes.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 17, 2012, 06:40:56 AM
That's a waste. If nothing else, you should have a planned point where you will bomb, no matter how well it's going. But bombing at the start before any bullets come near you is a waste.

And, was it really necessary to lay into her like that? No need to get angry at people for mistakes.

In a case like UFO, I remember bombing at the start of Sinking Vortex and having nothing come close to me. I wasn't getting angry, I was trying to help. If it seemed like I was getting angry, then my apologies for such. I simply wanted to say that you shouldn't bomb only when it's getting bad unless you know the card well enough that you're relatively confident in your abilities to capture it. A 1cc run is meant to 1cc, not to brag that "I captured X card and didn't bomb Y card that was a pain in my ass". Yes, that's a nice addition to it but safety first if it's a 1cc attempt.

It's not a waste because in most cases from what I see, a few moments after the card starts is when you can damage the boss. I.E. Bombskipping > Dying and losing two reserve mistakes. If the bomb sucks, yes, reserve it. But if it deals a lot of damage, use it to skip cards that you suck at.

Again, never meant to lash out at anyone. I seem to be prone to causing misunderstandings. :V It's just something that should be known to someone (As in an essential, not an "I know this so you should too" situation) trying to 1cc a game because it's rather helpful to get the character with the best bomb for bombskipping purposes.

This is just how I remember it happening. For instance, UFO Needle Reimu's bomb tears through a card like a hot knife through butter.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on August 17, 2012, 06:58:44 AM
At what point you can damage a boss varies from game to game. If I recall correctly, UFO let you damage them the instant the Spellcard begins, IN, on the other hand, didn't.
Regardless, if I'm not mistaken, correct timing for Bombs was actually quite important in UFO. I'm not quite sure anymore, but I think that bombing through a Spellcard actually gave your opponent an invincibility-frame of a few seconds on the next pattern if your Bomb lasted through the Spellcard. If your Bomb lasted long enough, you'd still be able to deal damage with it, but with bad timing you'd actually miss out on some damage, so with some Bombs, Reimu-A's for instance, staying away and only finishing the Spellcard or pattern with the last few seconds of the Bomb's duration was a better strategy than others.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on August 17, 2012, 03:50:07 PM
That moment when you die right at the VERY END of Danmaku Paranoia, where the spell has already ended, and yet still lose the spell bonus. But somehow still get the life piece. Dafuq? :3

Also, that moment of slowdown right at the end of Subterranean Rose where you hold on for dear life at the bottom of the screen, but still get hit by one of those roses. FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU-
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on August 17, 2012, 06:31:59 PM
It happened again. On a Last Word, Solo Sakuya has taken more attempts than all 11 other shot-types combined. First it was Blind Nightbird, where she took 184 attempts. And now it's Paschal Moon-Reflecting Satellite Slash, where she has taken over 200 attempts and I still haven't captured. The 2nd most attempts was Magic Team, with 75 attempts, and even THAT was an outlier, considering that the 3rd most attempts was Solo Marisa at 25 attempts. I was just playing awful the day I tried it with Magic Team. But I haven't been playing terribly with Sakuya, it's just way freaking harder than with anyone else.

By my estimation, if I play aggressively, trying to stay under Youmu, I have to survive... around 60 seconds for a capture. So I basically have to do nearly 2/3s of a timeout for a capture with Solo Sakuya. That's bullshit. Solo Sakuya is terrible. Like I said last time this happened, she's lucky Remilia is so good, because she is without a doubt the worst human in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on August 17, 2012, 08:08:51 PM
I recommend trying to shift sides repeatedly, if possible. If it's lasting as long as you say, then the attack does indeed start to change, and the bullets fly diagonally instead of straight up and down. If you keep leading her to the edges and switching sides, there will be considerably less bullets on the screen. That was my experience when timing it out at least. Seemed to make a world of difference.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on August 17, 2012, 08:41:07 PM
Yeah the bullets start flying diagonally and I can never survive very long when they start doing that, 'cause it goes from easy to insane. I got her health down enough so that the "Enemy" marker starts flashing red ONCE in 200 tries (and died of course).

I didn't think of switching sides because I thought it would be about the same level of clusterfuck everywhere, since the columns are spawned across the entire screen. Are the diagonal bullets vaguely aimed at you or something? I might as well try your suggestion but that way it'll probably take even longer since I'll be staying under Youmu for a smaller amount of time, and will be doing barely any damage :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on August 17, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
If she's at the far side of the screen, the columns don't reach the other side, and they seem to get shorter as they go. (Double checked. It's that they don't reach the bottom of the screen on the far side, so you aren't surrounded the whole time.) Here's the video of it, if want to see it. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QvScoAhCMU#t=19m

I'm not sure how feasible it is to go from wall to wall for every wave. What I did was right, middle, left, middle, right, etc. I tried to capture it a few times with Sakuya. I'd say to shotgun her as much as you can in the beginning. Maybe start from one side and work your way across, shotgunning the whole time, then fall back and resort to running back and forth. Doing it like that will take much longer than 60 seconds, I think, but it'll probably end before it times out. (Hopefully).
Alternatively, you could try a full aggression approach and shotgun the whole time. It would be much harder, but take less time, so maybe you could luck out.

But yeah. From what I could see capturing that with Sakuya is pretty much the same as timing it out. A nightmare, in other words.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on August 17, 2012, 09:01:59 PM
Come back here! That's over 130 million points you're flying away with! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmhcMmisYts)

I thought the run was basically over when I ran out of resources to bomb for that last UFO summon... then I managed to summon it anyway, but...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 17, 2012, 09:52:58 PM
EoSD Lunatic NB Attempt: Game over to Gensokyo~ If only I didn't die twice to Meister!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on August 17, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
I died at Double Black Death Butterfly Hard when Satori's health was very low
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 18, 2012, 12:11:53 AM
OH MY GOD.

I was so close... so close...

Damn you, UFO... just... damn you...

Game over'd at Devil's Recitation. That's the farthest I've ever made it... I'm sad.
:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 18, 2012, 12:14:46 AM
AND THE NEXT ATTEMPT IS EVEN BETTER
[attach=1]
Look at the health.  Now at my bombs.  Now at the FPS.
Yeah.
is far worse than a Devil's Recitation death.

Keep at it, you'll get it eventually!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 18, 2012, 12:28:23 AM
is far worse than a Devil's Recitation death.

Keep at it, you'll get it eventually!

Wow... that is worse.
Something similar happened to me on Easy mode, cept I died as she was dying.

But I've never even seen Byakuren's final card on Normal...  and ideally, I'd like to 1cc UFO before school starts... which is in like three days...

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ZellBell on August 18, 2012, 10:13:29 AM
I decided today to play as MarisaB on EOSD, because I heard that Master Spark kills spellcards.

I just died three times.

To Cirno.

How.

Damn Marisa speed to hell. (Of course, it could just be my own degeneration in bomb reflexes...)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nicholashin on August 18, 2012, 03:16:04 PM
Oh...no...
My new computer comes with a new keyboard, and apparently it has a mind on its own that loves making me to keep moving to a direction until death :(
So I can't play touhou with it T_T
Evidence: Die to MB stage 1 repeatedly :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on August 18, 2012, 03:55:57 PM
120fps, invisible hitbox (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23276) (like that matters)

Of course, standard procedure. Start doing well, realize I'm doing well, then fall apart. 110fps is a cakewalk, then 120 is just the magic number. My nerves are jelly.


Oh well. You'll have to excuse me while I rant for bit. Maybe not the right thread for this (perhaps I should view it as an achievement?), but I figure I should say it somewhere. Maybe somebody cares.
I quit. I've got to quit someday, and it may as well be today. I've done what I wanted to do. Now I'm just running around furthering my stupidity. I thought I might last a bit longer, make a two year run of it, but I can't. I quit months ago really, but didn't grasp the truth of it. I've taken them off my computer, the whole nine yards, and I won't go back. I just had to say it here, to finalize it, in a sense. Carry on.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kip on August 19, 2012, 12:51:43 AM
I swear Touhou will be the end of me.
I know I can beat UFO. I'm absolutely positive that it's possible.
I've made it to Byakuren's final spell 3 times, alas, to no avail. I just DON'T have enough resources by that point. It's like, I have to capture every card and non-spell she has beforehand, so I have full bombs for her last spell (because, it's impossible that I'd have any lives in stock by the time I get THAT far into Byakuren's fight, so bombing my way through her last spell is my only realistic option), and even before Byakuren, or even stage 6, there's Shou. Shou is the main reason why I don't have anything by the time I get to Byakuren. She takes everythingthing I've worked so hard to build up - my extra extends, my bombs. My good mood.
I just.. it totally frustrates me. That 1CC is so close. I can feel it.. I just can't run that extra mile, to cross the finish line, win that medal, and gloat that I've finally beaten all the Windows Touhou games on Normal.
Oh well. I'll get there eventually, I guess. Practice, practice, practice.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 19, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
I quit. I've got to quit someday, and it may as well be today. I've done what I wanted to do. Now I'm just running around furthering my stupidity. I thought I might last a bit longer, make a two year run of it, but I can't. I quit months ago really, but didn't grasp the truth of it. I've taken them off my computer, the whole nine yards, and I won't go back. I just had to say it here, to finalize it, in a sense. Carry on.
:ohdear:
You pulled off some really ridiculously awesome stuff, incredible job doing what you did, especially considering we've been playing about the same amount of time.  I wish you'd stick around further since you're pretty cool, but sometimes things don't work out that way.
Do you plan on staying around the fandom?
Also what is your secret to improving so rapidly
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: TheMasterOfZen on August 19, 2012, 02:14:20 AM
Can't beat Hina on Normal-Hard-Lunatic without losing a life or bomb....

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on August 19, 2012, 02:19:36 AM
Lost my final spare life in Miko's final card before I got a chance to commit suicide as she exploded
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 19, 2012, 02:54:28 AM
120fps, invisible hitbox (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23276) (like that matters)

Of course, standard procedure. Start doing well, realize I'm doing well, then fall apart. 110fps is a cakewalk, then 120 is just the magic number. My nerves are jelly.


Oh well. You'll have to excuse me while I rant for bit. Maybe not the right thread for this (perhaps I should view it as an achievement?), but I figure I should say it somewhere. Maybe somebody cares.
I quit. I've got to quit someday, and it may as well be today. I've done what I wanted to do. Now I'm just running around furthering my stupidity. I thought I might last a bit longer, make a two year run of it, but I can't. I quit months ago really, but didn't grasp the truth of it. I've taken them off my computer, the whole nine yards, and I won't go back. I just had to say it here, to finalize it, in a sense. Carry on.

=<

I dunno your personal circumstances, but I hope you didn't do anything you'll regret later. People flutter in and out of the community just like that, but it always makes me curious to see that Touhou is something you "quit," like it's a drug. Even after I completed my ultimate goal with Touhou, it's not something I could ever "quit." It's fun, right? That's why we started playing it in the first place, and is something we may find fun again even after we get tired of it.

 Kinda sad to see you go, but that's how it is, yeah? Take care, and feel free to come back any time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 19, 2012, 03:32:56 AM
I quit. I've got to quit someday, and it may as well be today. I've done what I wanted to do. Now I'm just running around furthering my stupidity. I thought I might last a bit longer, make a two year run of it, but I can't. I quit months ago really, but didn't grasp the truth of it. I've taken them off my computer, the whole nine yards, and I won't go back. I just had to say it here, to finalize it, in a sense. Carry on.

And a week later you're going to be coming back ranting about another Chiyuri PoDD Lunatic run. Nobody quits Touhou. They just take a break and then want to start playing again.

...Right? :ohdear: If I ever say I want to quit, convince me otherwise unless I have a good reason. I'm likely going insane for some other reason if such a situation comes up because I could never quit this series. The last time I went a week without playing Touhou was when I had my old computer and that was because I couldn't play it. My computer sucked that much. I'm going to try as much as I can to last at least four years as a player. The fanbase is brimming enough with people that make stuff that nothing ever gets old. Even if it's not shmups, you could be playing a game like Megamari or Super Marisa World.

Zil, I won't argue with you leaving, just know some of us will miss you coming along and talking about what you were doing in Touhou.

Maybe you're just mad that you fell apart at 120FPS even though everyone and their grandchildren does just that: falling apart at a speed.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on August 19, 2012, 07:32:34 AM
120fps, invisible hitbox (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23276) (like that matters)

Of course, standard procedure. Start doing well, realize I'm doing well, then fall apart. 110fps is a cakewalk, then 120 is just the magic number. My nerves are jelly.


Oh well. You'll have to excuse me while I rant for bit. Maybe not the right thread for this (perhaps I should view it as an achievement?), but I figure I should say it somewhere. Maybe somebody cares.
I quit. I've got to quit someday, and it may as well be today. I've done what I wanted to do. Now I'm just running around furthering my stupidity. I thought I might last a bit longer, make a two year run of it, but I can't. I quit months ago really, but didn't grasp the truth of it. I've taken them off my computer, the whole nine yards, and I won't go back. I just had to say it here, to finalize it, in a sense. Carry on.

It's hard to properly assess what made you do that, but I'm not sure you've done "what you wanted to do", unless you did have a set goal outside of various challenges outside of the games' usual scope, 90FPS and what not.
Regardless of which it was, I'm sure that you did enjoy attempting increasingly difficult challenges, ridiculous objectives or not, but could it be that you're torn between doing it because you enjoy it and doing it because you're forcing yourself to do it due to competitive spirit? Of course, I'm just guessing here, and your posts regarding quitting did have a slight whiff of time-investments being too great, though I guess that all those challenges also put a bit of a strain on your psyche, that's how it would be and is for me at least (though on a much lower level skill-wise), so I can understand your feelings if I'm right here.

Nonetheless, I think you're going too far by saying you're going to quit - regardless of whether you quit because you fear what challenges you're going to unwillingly impose upon yourself or because you just don't enjoy it anymore, I can say without a doubt on my mind that you did enjoy the games at one point or another.

If you say you don't want to play at all, that's perfectly fine, but considering how much you played I'd be hard-pressed to believe that this isn't just a temporary whim.
If you say you don't want to challenge yourself so much anymore because it annoys you how you force yourself despite the effort everything takes, then you should try to work on that first. It's a personality trait and I can vouch for how stressful that mentality can be, but it's nothing you can't work on - in fact, it's something you should work on if it pertains to something you actually enjoy doing, especially if it's ruining that very thing for you.

For instance, I'd be lying if I said that UFO Lunatic did not affect me in a negative way seeing how it was the last factor that made me quit university during a period where I wanted to do so anyway. Granted, in the end, it was for the best, but under ordinary circumstances? No way in hell. Nowadays, I just try to do things that won't turn me into a wreck (unless 14 has a Lunatic Mode on par with UFO, but that's within the scope of the games themselves, so that's fine), clearing difficulties with previously untouched Spellcards, Spellcard Practice (because Wild Carpet is the best Spellcard ever), just something I enjoy, something that lets me have fun - I'm sure there are more than enough things in the games that can let you feel the same way without stress; before you give up on something you enjoy, you should try to find those things once more, I'm sure you'll regret it in the future if you don't. Of course, that depends on your actual motives; I'm just guessing, but if you need help with anything, you can ask me anytime, even more so because you also supported me in a time of need.

That being said, regardless of what you opt for - stay  in touch.

 
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on August 19, 2012, 05:06:12 PM
I don't understand why I only die to kokkuri-san when I perfect the rest of PCB extra. I capture it consistently when I'm failing...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 19, 2012, 07:37:44 PM
Another failed EoSD NB Attempt
I had 4 lives going into Sakuya. Game over on Killing Doll. I'm tired, maybe some other time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: SirChaotick on August 19, 2012, 07:43:19 PM
>Let's randomly try SA Hard for the first time ever!
>Stage 1: a bomb to Kisume, two bombs to Yamame.
>Stage 2: bomb midboss Parsee's nonspell. Somehow pull off a perfect boss Parsee.
>Stage 3: enter with four lives, leave with none.
>Stage 4: Orin keels me.

...better stick to Perfect Cherry Blossom for now.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 19, 2012, 09:29:03 PM
I don't believe it. I get closer and closer, only to have everything explode in my face. I knew it was too good to be true when I did a really good job collecting UFOs at the first half of the game. I even got past Shou with 4(?) extra lives. But when the final stage rolled around, I lost one of those lives to the spam at the beginning, so to make up for it, I put all my focus into gathering more bombs. Finally, I came face to face with Byakuren again. This fight was just one mistake after the other, and I even died with bombs in stock once, which robbed me of two extra bombs.

Once again, I was up against Devil's Recitation, and that card was a disaster. I died at the very beginning and bombed twice. When I got to St Nikou's Air Scroll, I had no lives and bombs left and I was feeling incredibly disheartened. It was a miracle that I survived as long as I did before I inevitably game over'd. I applaud you, Byakuren Hijiri. I believe you are the only final boss that has given me this much trouble, requiring me to bomb every single one of your attacks save for the first and second non-spell.

I included a replay for the hell of it, if anyone wants to see.
[attach=1]

Excuse me while I go sulk.
 :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on August 20, 2012, 02:41:51 AM
Nonetheless, I think you're going too far by saying you're going to quit - regardless of whether you quit because you fear what challenges you're going to unwillingly impose upon yourself or because you just don't enjoy it anymore, I can say without a doubt on my mind that you did enjoy the games at one point or another.
It's not that I don't enjoy them. In fact, I think I enjoy them more than I ever did, primarily because of the challenges and stuff. For example, that 120fps Mountain of Faith thing. I saw Naut's video, and that inspired me to try it. I had no idea if I'd be able to do it (tbh it looked humanly impossible in the video) and of course it ate me alive at first. But I crept up on it from lower speeds, and "eased my way into it" if you will. I figured it out, got used to the speed, and got the perfect timeout at 110fps, in fact was planning to go beyond 120fps and see just how far I could take it.
Anyway, getting to the point - to call it "fun" would be an understatement. It was unreal. Partly, perhaps, because the realization that I could actually do it put me in a good mood, but mostly it was the sheer exhilaration of it. I played it repeatedly until I started getting worse at it, at which point I quit, and realized (as is usually the case) that I had spent hours on it. Hours doing that one thing. And it bugged me, as it always did, to think about that. I really had to think about it though, and that's what I did. Deciding to quit wasn't just a sudden whim, but the result of serious thinking. I used to play guitar, and piano, but sometime I just stopped playing them. Then there's schoolwork and god knows what else. Things are behind where they should be, and I have to catch them up. My music playing could have been great by now, or so I believe. And it's not that I "sacrificed" those other skills to get good at Touhou. I could have multitasked, and not abandoned everything. I could be on the gravy train, kicking ass on all fronts, but I'm not. (And that's mildly infuriating.)
So yes, I will play Touhou again; it would be a crime against myself if I didn't, but I have to free myself from it first. I have to gain some self control, and repair the damage I've done, however long it takes. A year, maybe more, maybe less, I don't know. But I'll stop this blithering now. I've said more than I had too anyway. This isn't the place for it.

And thanks, you guys, for saying what you did. I wasn't expecting that, and it was nice to read. And sorry for turning this place into my diary. There was no reason for it. No need to make a big deal here.

In any event, yes, I think I'll still hang around here and plague you all with my presence. It's not like I'm dying or anything.

e: And I realize I worded that first post to make it sound like I was just bored. I'm not really that ridiculous.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kip on August 20, 2012, 02:42:48 AM
I don't believe it. I get closer and closer, only to have everything explode in my face. I knew it was too good to be true when I did a really good job collecting UFOs at the first half of the game. I even got past Shou with 4(?) extra lives. But when the final stage rolled around, I lost one of those lives to the spam at the beginning, so to make up for it, I put all my focus into gathering more bombs. Finally, I came face to face with Byakuren again. This fight was just one mistake after the other, and I even died with bombs in stock once, which robbed me of two extra bombs.

Once again, I was up against Devil's Recitation, and that card was a disaster. I died at the very beginning and bombed twice. When I got to St Nikou's Air Scroll, I had no lives and bombs left and I was feeling incredibly disheartened. It was a miracle that I survived as long as I did before I inevitably game over'd. I applaud you, Byakuren Hijiri. I believe you are the only final boss that has given me this much trouble, requiring me to bomb every single one of your attacks save for the first and second non-spell.

I included a replay for the hell of it, if anyone wants to see.
[attach=1]

Excuse me while I go sulk.
 :fail:

I know EXACTLY how you feel. Byakuren is hard. She just DESTROYS any and all of your resources. What you feel when you fail a Touhou game on the final boss' last attack? It's terrible. I've been there, and I'm sure I'll be there again. Best of luck on 1CC'ing Touhou 12, I'm rooting for you.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 20, 2012, 03:05:52 AM
It's not that I don't enjoy them. In fact, I think I enjoy them more than I ever did, primarily because of the challenges and stuff. For example, that 120fps Mountain of Faith thing. I saw Naut's video, and that inspired me to try it. I had no idea if I'd be able to do it (tbh it looked humanly impossible in the video) and of course it ate me alive at first. But I crept up on it from lower speeds, and "eased my way into it" if you will. I figured it out, got used to the speed, and got the perfect timeout at 110fps, in fact was planning to go beyond 120fps and see just how far I could take it.
Anyway, getting to the point - to call it "fun" would be an understatement. It was unreal. Partly, perhaps, because the realization that I could actually do it put me in a good mood, but mostly it was the sheer exhilaration of it. I played it repeatedly until I started getting worse at it, at which point I quit, and realized (as is usually the case) that I had spent hours on it. Hours doing that one thing. And it bugged me, as it always did, to think about that. I really had to think about it though, and that's what I did. Deciding to quit wasn't just a sudden whim, but the result of serious thinking. I used to play guitar, and piano, but sometime I just stopped playing them. Then there's schoolwork and god knows what else. Things are behind where they should be, and I have to catch them up. My music playing could have been great by now, or so I believe. And it's not that I "sacrificed" those other skills to get good at Touhou. I could have multitasked, and not abandoned everything. I could be on the gravy train, kicking ass on all fronts, but I'm not. (And that's mildly infuriating.)
So yes, I will play Touhou again; it would be a crime against myself if I didn't, but I have to free myself from it first. I have to gain some self control, and repair the damage I've done, however long it takes. A year, maybe more, maybe less, I don't know. But I'll stop this blithering now. I've said more than I had too anyway. This isn't the place for it.

And thanks, you guys, for saying what you did. I wasn't expecting that, and it was nice to read. And sorry for turning this place into my diary. There was no reason for it. No need to make a big deal here.

In any event, yes, I think I'll still hang around here and plague you all with my presence. It's not like I'm dying or anything.

Sheesh, Touhou ate away at your life THAT MUCH? I wouldn't mind you quitting at this point, just be sure to start playing again little by little but take it easy when you get everything straightened out, okay?

On that thought, I could have been learning Casket of Stars or White Flag of the Usa Shrine on the piano but noooo I had to keep slacking off and playing Touhou (And getting killed by SoEW Marisa's stupid options (And yes I know they're called Orriries' Suns shut up)). Oh well. I'll save that for when Touhou begins to bore me.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on August 20, 2012, 06:00:31 AM
It's not that I don't enjoy them. In fact, I think I enjoy them more than I ever did, primarily because of the challenges and stuff. For example, that 120fps Mountain of Faith thing. I saw Naut's video, and that inspired me to try it. I had no idea if I'd be able to do it (tbh it looked humanly impossible in the video) and of course it ate me alive at first. But I crept up on it from lower speeds, and "eased my way into it" if you will. I figured it out, got used to the speed, and got the perfect timeout at 110fps, in fact was planning to go beyond 120fps and see just how far I could take it.
Anyway, getting to the point - to call it "fun" would be an understatement. It was unreal. Partly, perhaps, because the realization that I could actually do it put me in a good mood, but mostly it was the sheer exhilaration of it. I played it repeatedly until I started getting worse at it, at which point I quit, and realized (as is usually the case) that I had spent hours on it. Hours doing that one thing. And it bugged me, as it always did, to think about that. I really had to think about it though, and that's what I did. Deciding to quit wasn't just a sudden whim, but the result of serious thinking. I used to play guitar, and piano, but sometime I just stopped playing them. Then there's schoolwork and god knows what else. Things are behind where they should be, and I have to catch them up. My music playing could have been great by now, or so I believe. And it's not that I "sacrificed" those other skills to get good at Touhou. I could have multitasked, and not abandoned everything. I could be on the gravy train, kicking ass on all fronts, but I'm not. (And that's mildly infuriating.)
So yes, I will play Touhou again; it would be a crime against myself if I didn't, but I have to free myself from it first. I have to gain some self control, and repair the damage I've done, however long it takes. A year, maybe more, maybe less, I don't know. But I'll stop this blithering now. I've said more than I had too anyway. This isn't the place for it.

And thanks, you guys, for saying what you did. I wasn't expecting that, and it was nice to read. And sorry for turning this place into my diary. There was no reason for it. No need to make a big deal here.

In any event, yes, I think I'll still hang around here and plague you all with my presence. It's not like I'm dying or anything.

e: And I realize I worded that first post to make it sound like I was just bored. I'm not really that ridiculous.

I wasn't under the impression that you were bored, no worries. Good to hear that you didn't feel bothered by your urge to keep challenging yourself, though I guess concerns about the related time investment weren't too far off.
Anyway, take your time getting your priorities straight, catch up on what you wanted to do, I'm sure you'll like it even more than before if you stick with your plan and do that.

On that note, if there's anything you need help with, you can ask anytime.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on August 20, 2012, 09:53:20 PM
Haha I don't know how to UFO Hard
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 20, 2012, 11:37:08 PM
>Now to beat Aya on the last scene so I can unlock Hatate completely!
>...
>(http://buzzopolis.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuu.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 20, 2012, 11:42:27 PM
I tried to do a UFO normal runs again.
Three guesses who made me game over, and the first two don't count.
 :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nicholashin on August 22, 2012, 08:47:39 AM
I just failed another 1cc of MB Normal................................and I have 9 lives in at the beginning of Stage 5....
Also, why I keep failing Megumi's super easy spell, even though I figure it out :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 22, 2012, 02:32:15 PM
VoWG timeout attempt progress log:
First attempt in over a month, going very well.  However...at 69 seconds left my little siblings decided it was a good idea to be noisy, distracting me.  I died.  40 seconds left, they come over and start asking me questions/being noisy even closer, despite me asking them to leave me alone right now.  I die 3 times in 30 seconds.  No point finishing that attempt.

Basically some crap happens every time I have a good attempt going, my best ended up ended because I got called for lunch at 41 seconds left.


Wow, failed 35 seconds in...due to the game lagging for a second (literally, a second)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LadyScarlet on August 22, 2012, 07:02:38 PM
God, I can't beat IN Normal with Ghost Team even WITH 1 continue! Fuck you Marisa! Fuck you Reisen! Fuck this shitty ass Last Word I wanna unlock! <insert cluster F bomb>!!! DX
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 22, 2012, 11:00:19 PM
Today's been a particularly derpy day.

When I was trying out MoF Hard, I was surprised again by Nitori's midboss card.

During my (many) attempts of 1cc'ing UFO Normal, I...
...was fairy rammed at the beginning of Stage 3
...needed to itch my nose during Murasa's third card and died in the process
...flew into a curvy laser
...flew right into Byakuren after her first card

So... no 1cc there. Bah.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 22, 2012, 11:44:41 PM
fairy wars suck
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 23, 2012, 12:33:22 AM
fairy wars suck

Freeze to win.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 23, 2012, 02:23:03 AM
Trying to perfect no focus PCB Extra.
First run, only died once on Charming Siege because I chose the wrong damn lane.
When I try again, I died to the survival because nerves.
I swear, Ran's trolling me  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on August 23, 2012, 02:20:30 PM
I hate getting obsessed.

I've been trying to go after a single achievement for the past 3 days, only taking a break to do something by request.

I don't even know how many times I've failed at this, it's UFO and I'm using a cleared score.dat that I found somewhere so I can't measure it by the history, but I would estimate 80 times or so.

And of course, here I go again.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 23, 2012, 02:35:16 PM
I decided to try a credit-feed run of UFO lunatic.
I stopped at Stage 3 because it wasn't fun.

I will be perfectly content with never clearing this game (for now) because it's so stupid on so many levels.
Memorize stages to have any hope of having enough resources to clear the bosses? check
Stupid spellcards/nonspells/stage parts? check (look at the post Ichirin section.  Tell me that isn't all memotrash.)

There is nothing remotely fun about UFO lunatic outside of...Nazrin Rod?  Maybe?  Even then it's pretty freaking stupid.  I don't know how ANYONE could enjoy this.  Now if you'll excuse me, back to trying to figure out how to get the last parts of MoF lunatic consistent so I can get that NB lunatic clear.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: MTSranger on August 23, 2012, 04:43:51 PM
I quite like stage 4 and 5 of UFO lunatic. Stage 3 wasn't so bad once I got around, say, 100 practice runs.
Then again, I play SanaeB, who has a bigger room for error when fairies are all over the place (ReimuA is better for stage 3 though).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on August 23, 2012, 04:48:06 PM
The difficulty in actually managing your resources and surviving the bosses is part of the fun. It's kind of rough at first but you love to hate it after a bit. Start by bombing everything. If you don't like that then, uh, I guess coming back to it when you're leagues better is always an option.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on August 23, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
Heh, funny. I never liked Nazrin's first spell at all. But then again, I'm an advocate for memotrash. Don't you have to learn the stages in other Touhous too? The end part of stage 3 is pretty easy, because again, memotrash. When you learn it, you'll perfect it 90% of the time. Even managing resources isn't so bad. The UFO system adds great variety to resource collection too. You can easily afford 2 deaths on every stage to have enough resources for the last boss.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on August 23, 2012, 07:44:03 PM
Memotrash sounds awfully negative considering that the actual execution isn't always easy.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 23, 2012, 07:51:10 PM
I decided to try a credit-feed run of UFO lunatic.
I stopped at Stage 3 because it wasn't fun.

I will be perfectly content with never clearing this game (for now) because it's so stupid on so many levels.
Memorize stages to have any hope of having enough resources to clear the bosses? check
Stupid spellcards/nonspells/stage parts? check (look at the post Ichirin section.  Tell me that isn't all memotrash.)

There is nothing remotely fun about UFO lunatic outside of...Nazrin Rod?  Maybe?  Even then it's pretty freaking stupid.  I don't know how ANYONE could enjoy this.  Now if you'll excuse me, back to trying to figure out how to get the last parts of MoF lunatic consistent so I can get that NB lunatic clear.

Well, some people like that level of difficulty. From my perspective, UFO is a fun romp because once you do memorize what comes where (and I promise it's a lot less painful than most people say), it becomes a game of balancing resources. That, and the boss patterns are legit tough, and never stop being tough. That's what I like - after all, nothing's quite as much fun as overcoming a tough attack (or blasting it in the face with exorcism dance >.>).

But, even if you're saying that out of frustration, I won't let you get away with saying the game is unfair. Some parts are unreasonable, but most everything has rhyme and reason, and can be learned. And by "learn," I mean figure out how to approach it - there's a lot that you'll never get 100% of the time. But the game gives you enough resources that you can pull through if you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 23, 2012, 09:55:36 PM
You guys are going on about UFO lunatic while I've never even seen Byakuren's final card on Normal. Heh, that's how bad I am at UFO  :V

I think school is messing with my Touhou skills.

I messed up Hand Strike "Fist Smash" which is a card I usually capture, as well as Kogasa's Night Train card, and Capsize "Dragging Anchor". My UFO collection is also subpar. Usually I'll have full lives by Nue midboss in Stage four but today I had four.

Oh well, gotta go try again.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 23, 2012, 10:13:07 PM
Memotrash sounds awfully negative considering that the actual execution isn't always easy.
As far as I can tell it's memorize or die/bomb in a bunch of places in Stage 3.

I quite like stage 4 and 5 of UFO lunatic. Stage 3 wasn't so bad once I got around, say, 100 practice runs.
Then again, I play SanaeB, who has a bigger room for error when fairies are all over the place (ReimuA is better for stage 3 though).
Never played those stages.  I detest Stage 3 though.

Don't you have to learn the stages in other Touhous too? ... The UFO system adds great variety to resource collection too. You can easily afford 2 deaths on every stage to have enough resources for the last boss.
Yes, but to a much lesser extent.  I feel that to get those resources, I need to memorize the stages and then still not screw up.

Start by bombing everything. If you don't like that then, uh, I guess coming back to it when you're leagues better is always an option.
That's what I did.  Failed to Ichirin's opener because Stage 3 is awful.  I probably will come back to it later (like a half a year or so when my random dodging is better) because I hate memorizing stages beyond Stage 1 (because that happens pretty naturally)

Well, some people like that level of difficulty.
...
But, even if you're saying that out of frustration, I won't let you get away with saying the game is unfair.
I never want another UFO.  Never.  I don't think I said it was unfair, I do however think that Stage 3 is very badly designed.


edit: all of the above pretty much only applies to lunatic.  Hard mode was fine when I went through that and got destroyed, you didn't need to memorize although it helped a lot.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 23, 2012, 10:19:56 PM
Freeze to win.
I tried
SO MUCH DELAY FFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on August 23, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
As far as I can tell it's memorize or die/bomb in a bunch of places in Stage 3.

I still don't get what the trash is aimed at it. Implies "trash" that it's easy or that you just don't like memorizing it? From the sound of it, you don't seem to like it. Look at the bright side, the fact that it can, or rather has, to be memorized is what makes it playable in the first place. Planning UFO routes would be nigh impossible if everything were random.

Still, if you think memorizing things is stupid, you should just try developing a working UFO route while considering each stage's layout and then tell me that it's trash or "stupid" - it's absolutely beautiful when executed correctly and takes a lot of planning sometimes, but it's a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 23, 2012, 11:02:13 PM
Mountain of Faith normal 120 FPS attempt...failed to the final spellcard...with 149993530 points.
I can do this, but...I feel that should have been the run.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 23, 2012, 11:34:08 PM
I got decimated by Maze of Love.
It was the second time I made it to that spell.

I have a strangely hard time with Laevatein. I think that Four of a Kind is easier, even though Laevatein is static.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 24, 2012, 01:15:21 AM
You guys are going on about UFO lunatic while I've never even seen Byakuren's final card on Normal. Heh, that's how bad I am at UFO  :V

To be perfectly fair, I don't think you've been playing that long, yeah? It takes quite a long time to build up to something like UFO lunatic. :p

Quote
I never want another UFO.  Never.  I don't think I said it was unfair, I do however think that Stage 3 is very badly designed.

I'll give you that one. UFO stage 3 is kind of the bottleneck of the game. In any run of mine, those that do badly will end around stage 3, while if I can get past Ichirin I will almost always at least reach Shou. Still, there are ways around its icky design.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 24, 2012, 01:28:18 AM
To be perfectly fair, I don't think you've been playing that long, yeah? It takes quite a long time to build up to something like UFO lunatic. :p

I guess you're right. I've started playing around late May this year. Not very long at all. But I'm not really looking forward to my Lunatic runs of the future :V

Anyway, my little brother was watching me practice Stage 6 TD Normal. I wasn't really taking it seriously and we were both goofing off. It resulted in the derpiest gameplay ever with me dying at the end of my bombs because I forgot to move down from on top of the boss and my brother purposely coughing in my ear and making me run into amulets. Basically, whenever my brother's around, my gameplay performance drops severely. :P
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on August 24, 2012, 12:55:16 PM
I now have two 997M PCB extra scores.

This time it's by timing out Ultimate Buddhist on ReimuA.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tengukami on August 24, 2012, 04:53:48 PM
So! Upgraded my OS, and therewith accidentally deleted my replays for Double Spoiler. No biggie - just decided to go back and have a do-over. It's fun enough where I don't mind playing multiple times.

Check out the following replay. Actually had to pause from playing until my laughter stopped.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 24, 2012, 05:18:43 PM
So! Upgraded my OS, and therewith accidentally deleted my replays for Double Spoiler. No biggie - just decided to go back and have a do-over. It's fun enough where I don't mind playing multiple times.

Check out the following replay. Actually had to pause from playing until my laughter stopped.
Oh great job :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tengukami on August 24, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Oh great job :V

/me bows

Thank you, I was pretty proud of this failure myself.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on August 24, 2012, 06:31:01 PM
Let me list every time I continued at my UFO Lunatic session, the first one being without continuing.

Murasa's penultimate card.
Sinker Ghost (In a stupid way that I'm rather proud of)
Penultimate card

Stage 5 pre-midboss
Stage 5 start, suiciding so that I don't continue with inoptimal material
Stage 5 start, suiciding so that I don't continue with inoptimal material
Stage 5 start, suiciding so that I don't continue with inoptimal material
Shou Nonspell 1
Pre-Shou orbs
Radiant Treasure Gun
Light of Justice
Complete Clarification
Stage 5 start
Stage 5 start
repeat the last two another two times.

Yeah after that loss to Complete Clarification I kinda lost it :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on August 24, 2012, 06:50:48 PM
Really eager to score some more in SA Lunatic, so use MarisaB (super unique shottype goo!)
Spend about half a day attempting to get past stage 1 with a decent amount of graze and score (whilst not dying).
Finally get to stage 2, completely mess up the start  :colonveeplusalpha:
"Whatever, let's just keep going!  :derp:"
Proceed to attempt a score run which messes up so much that it starts to turn into a survival.  :ohdear:
Reach Utsuho's last spell with 2 extra lives and 2 power, score is within reach of 2 billion.  Die twice, end up losing 80million in clear bonus as a result, final score is 43million off 2 bill...  :qq:


Hate those moments when you reach a section in the game, and get stuck at x.95 with no power items for the rest of the stage *AH-*stage6*-HEM*.
"I NEED MORE POOOWERR!!"  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Aeteas on August 25, 2012, 04:47:38 AM
I don't understand why I only die to kokkuri-san when I perfect the rest of PCB extra. I capture it consistently when I'm failing...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 25, 2012, 01:03:02 PM
>Plays GFW normal.
>Makes it to stage 3 with no deaths and 4 bombs.
>Luna is the main boss.
>Game over'd to Team Tech "Fairy Overdrive"
>FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Piranha on August 25, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
StB 9-6 (http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=23421)

 :colonveeplusalpha:

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 25, 2012, 05:23:51 PM
I'm not sure if this is a failure, or accomplishment, but I made it to Stage 6 of EoSD Hard on my second try without any continues, but then I died to random clipdeath with two bombs in stock. I just kind of stared at the screen for a little bit.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 25, 2012, 05:31:14 PM
I'm not sure if this is a failure, or accomplishment, but I made it to Stage 6 of EoSD Hard on my second try without any continues, but then I died to random clipdeath with two bombs in stock. I just kind of stared at the screen for a little bit.
[attach=1]

Hmm. Judging from that screenshot, do you know the trick to that section? There's a way to make those ring-firing fairies a non-issue if you stream them.

In any case, not bad. You're obviously better than you think. :P
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 25, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
So, I had a 1 death to Aya run of MoF normal at 120 FPS.
and then my brother starts being a whiny fussy brat.
and I die to the opener for the first time ever.
I capture the survival (yay!) but then Stage 5 happens.  and I die 4 times from the part right before Sanae to her second nonspell.  This ruined any chance of a clear.  Note that my brother is STILL being whiny and fussy.

tl;dr That was the run and my brother decided it would be a good idea to be a jerk and distract me ruining the run.

edit: though I've since pulled it off at least.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 25, 2012, 10:27:49 PM
>Playing PoFV, Reisen normal final stage player and boss on one last life.
*Dirty thought pops up*
>O/////O
>Dies from distraction.
>BRAIN Y U SO DIRTY
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 25, 2012, 10:28:15 PM
I'm losing my patience with UFO. Today I just keep ramming into things and picking up the wrong color UFO token.
Has anyone ever played a game so much that they actually start to get bad at it? I think that's happening to me with UFO... I'm gonna take a break and go do my French homework.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on August 25, 2012, 10:29:10 PM
All the bloody time! You should just take a break and come back for it later.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 25, 2012, 10:34:13 PM
That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try it again tomorrow. Besides, I've got a mountain of homework to do anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 26, 2012, 02:09:15 AM
Argh almost cleared stage 5 for practice but I game over'd on Complete Clarification after almost capturing it on 0/0. I even knew where to go but I panicked and died. Now I'm currently leaving UFO open on stage 5 so I can try clearing it through continues, but I honestly think it'll be faster if I start a whole new game and get to stage 5 with more resources. I just can't get consistent enough at any part of stage 5 to continue clear it, and it'll basically take the stars and planets aligning for me to legitimately no bomb all the possible trouble areas in that stage. What frustrates me even more is that I screwed up on stage 4 Nue, so I would have had an extra life going into stage 5 instead of just one measly extra bomb, which would have definitely let me clear Shou.

Oh, and I absolutely hate Aura of Justice. I don't know what it is about the lasers in that card, but I always move too early and ram into them as they're disappearing. Really frustrating.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on August 26, 2012, 05:19:46 AM
Oh, and I absolutely hate Aura of Justice. I don't know what it is about the lasers in that card, but I always move too early and ram into them as they're disappearing. Really frustrating.
Agreed. The lasers are far too wide and take far too long to disappear.

What I did was download somebody else's save file and practise stages on that, since we all know having to clear a stage to unlock its practice is backasswards. Try doing that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on August 26, 2012, 06:44:19 AM
What I did was download somebody else's save file and practise stages on that, since we all know having to clear a stage to unlock its practice is backasswards. Try doing that.

I always thought it gave clearing a stage for the first time a great sense of accomplishment as well as an actual reward. Makes the individual steps on the road to the 1CC much more fun. Besides, if you can't gather enough resources at one point in the game to clear the next stage without having it unlocked for Practice, you have little chance of clearing the game anyway, so I'd recommend just practicing the stages before the one you need to unlock more diligently.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on August 26, 2012, 06:49:39 AM
Different strokes for different folks. I was already pissed off enough when I was trying to clear Lunatic so I thought it a sane option.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on August 26, 2012, 07:24:37 AM
Haha, indeed, whichever suits your needs. I'd be lying if I claimed that I didn't leave a bit of my sanity behind in exchange for that excitement, but it feels more like playing by the rules, so I'm gonna stick with that procedure, regardless of how ZUN decides to deal with the matter of when a stage is unlocked for Practice Mode. No matter what happens, the end of the first 1CC clear of a game will always be the only appropriate time for me to see a Stage 6 Boss explode for the first time!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on August 26, 2012, 08:48:00 AM
Lunatic Ephemerality 137 Perfect Timeout  w/ No Focus Reimu... failed at T-2 seconds.
Promptly followed by a T-4 attempt.
And thirty attempts that didn't break the halfway point.

T-That's enough for today.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on August 26, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
ATTN: Sanae Kochiya in SA Extra

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_653_4FsTEfc/TQEhN_9agoI/AAAAAAAABVk/YcIZ66fm8co/s400/die_in_a_fire.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on August 26, 2012, 04:44:45 PM
I played SA, got to stage 5 with full lives and Orin ruined everything.
On normal.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: チソウ タイゼン on August 26, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
The logical conclusion to attempting to no-focus SA Extra for the first time.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23468
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 27, 2012, 04:37:20 AM
Summoned a Red UFO during Nue. Destroyed it, and out popped two life pieces. I then proceeded to die to the second wave, miss both life pieces, and thus only get a bomb from Nue. Game over'd on Complete Clarification with two life pieces. I could have gone into Stage 6 1/2... So close...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Raikaria on August 27, 2012, 02:40:48 PM
Not played danmaku for a while since computer wiped everything off, so I was a little rusty.

Played EoSD.

The number of times I got killed by Perfect Freeze, the spammy part where Cirno fires out the bullets, was stupid. I always hated that card for it's complete randomness anyway, random Cirno movement, random bullet placement, random bullet directions, random bullet speeds... sometimes I end up timing that spell out instead of capping it <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on August 27, 2012, 02:58:00 PM
random boss movement
sometimes I end up timing a spell out instead of capping it
Random boss movement is one of the most frustrating things ever, leads into timing out with a forward shot far too often. (I'm looking at you, 0/30 Aura of Justice)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LadyScarlet on August 27, 2012, 04:13:36 PM
ATTN: Sanae Kochiya in SA Extra

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_653_4FsTEfc/TQEhN_9agoI/AAAAAAAABVk/YcIZ66fm8co/s400/die_in_a_fire.jpg)
I'd just use the bomb glitch to get rid of Sanae if she's that big of a problem. Can't do that with Patchy in EoSD (stage 4). :/
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on August 27, 2012, 04:16:57 PM
REALLY SELF? (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23493)
But that's what you get for not playing TH for almost a month.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on August 27, 2012, 05:00:21 PM
I'd just use the bomb glitch to get rid of Sanae if she's that big of a problem. Can't do that with Patchy in EoSD (stage 4). :/
I wouldn't, without her life pieces you'll likely only have 4 lives for the stage-with them you have 5.
You should be able to get through her using only 2 bombs at most anyways.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 27, 2012, 07:34:02 PM
I hate Maze of Love. Full stop.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on August 28, 2012, 01:30:29 AM
Damn it, Yuyuko! (http://i.imgur.com/rXdZN.jpg)

Yet again, it was my first time making it to her in one go
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 28, 2012, 04:58:23 AM
Failed a perfect UFO Stage 4 run at the last second of Eternally Anchored Ghost Ship.

Murasa officially joins the ranks of Kanako and speedrunning DNA's Flaw in having my main motivator shift to rage. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 28, 2012, 05:43:24 AM
UFO Lunatic.

That is all.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on August 28, 2012, 08:00:02 PM
RAGE.

At SA Extra because mid-boss, Release of the Id and Super-Ego.
At UFO Extra because stage portion and various stuff.
At TD Extra because Fifth Duel "Random stuff flying from everywhere at Mach 7".

Are these Extras really harder than the others, or is it just me ?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 29, 2012, 12:59:50 AM
ARGH NO! Went into Byakuren 1/5 or something, and I died without bombing at all! God damn it me.

Even worse is that I went into Murasa 8/0, and between Ichirin, Murasa and Shou, I died with 6 bombs in stock. Why why why why whyyyyy! WHYYYY????!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on August 29, 2012, 01:01:30 AM
If you can get to Murasa with eight lives in stock then your clear is definitely close. Keep on trying man!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on August 29, 2012, 03:31:18 AM
I tried making a PCB Lunatic Let's Play.
7 lives going into Stage 6.
Finish with 2 lives.
Didn't even get the 1000 point extend. Sucks.
I dunno if I want to upload it or not...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 29, 2012, 03:48:30 AM
Ghost "Dipper Creeping Close"
Get Spell Card Bonus!!!
Holy crap, I actually perfected her.
*reads victory dialogue*
z z z z z z z z
*dad says something*
z z zReturn to Title

That was about ninety minutes ago, I'm taking a five minute break from playing now to cool off, then maybe I'll actually remember to save the replay.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 29, 2012, 05:01:39 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! WHY did I try to capture Makai Butterfly when I didn't memorize the pattern?! I could have gone into LFS 1/1 instead of 0/0! I hate myself SO much right now. Ugh that's it. I'm stealing a score.dat so I can practice the shit out of stage 6 Nue and Makai Butterfly so I can do those patterns in my freaking sleep. So close...

Also Ichirin's non-spells suck and clip me all the time, and I've lost the ability to do Dipper Creeping Close, but gained the ability to do the spell card preceding it. ... I just don't get it.

On a slightly happier note, I captured Kogasa's final card for the first time since I was forced into it with no bombs. Otherwise, it would have been an insta-bomb :V.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on August 30, 2012, 12:48:26 PM
I'd just use the bomb glitch to get rid of Sanae if she's that big of a problem. Can't do that with Patchy in EoSD (stage 4). :/

But I won't get the life pieces!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 31, 2012, 03:02:03 AM
Curse you, Scroll of Frolicking Animals! I can't watch that many danmaku animals at once!!! Or can I....
Need moar practice!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on August 31, 2012, 05:14:47 AM
I swear that there's something about MarisaB in UFO that makes me about 50x worse than playing with her. I think I've tried clearing UFO Extra with her at least 10 times already and I'm dying to things I usually never die to. Kogasa's first and third cards, Nue's OPENER, Nue's first card, Nue's Red UFO card, Nue's Green UFO card... I don't think I've gotten past Rainbow UFO with her yet. God I'm 2/8 on Kogasa's third card. I usually ace that thing easy. Suddenly my eyes are getting crossed when doing it, which pretty much never happens anymore. Sigh.

Edit: Add Mysterious Snake Show to the list. Oh God. I'll take that as a sign to stop playing.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on August 31, 2012, 09:31:16 AM
Seriously, game? I finally manage to 1cc Mystic Square on Lunatic again, scoring amazingly high compared to what I expected, and you give me a 6.16% slowdown rate?

I'd attribute it to recording a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_AQe57F4S0), but both my recent Normal A5 run and my first Lunatic 1cc had only 4.xx% slowdown...

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/KarisaMirisame/th5lmima-D4437450-2.png)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 31, 2012, 09:49:02 AM
You think you have it bad.

http://i.imgur.com/TJiG1.png

Still sucks though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on August 31, 2012, 05:33:11 PM
90 FPS is pretty crazy  :V

SA Lunatic, bomb everything!!
Seriously, bomb absolutely everything, I'm so terrible at controlling my character I fail things which I previously thought were simple.

Reach stage 6 with no lives max power, "I can still beat the game if I bomb through everything (possibly!)!".
*Impale self on first waves of crow kunai :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on August 31, 2012, 06:22:12 PM
6.16% slowdown rate
Are you using Next?

If so, try Anex.  Sound isn't as good and there are other issues but it's leaner.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on August 31, 2012, 10:26:09 PM
On my last four runs: 0/4 on Storm Day, 4/4 on PWG. What the hell.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on August 31, 2012, 11:50:55 PM
Oh you have GOT to be kidding me.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 01, 2012, 02:48:02 AM
Spend hour trying to make it to Stage 2 with 1 power without dying

Die to last spell

Say you don't give a flying fuck

Die to first bullet on screen

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on September 01, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
FUCKING SHIT I JUST LOST A TIMEOUT ATTEMPT OF SAIGYOUJI FLAWLESS NIRVANA AT 3 SECONDS LEFT

FUCK ME >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on September 01, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
I just had a double KO to LLS Hard stage 6 Yuka, since I underestimated how long one pixel of health would take to finish off and started shooting too late (waiting for the screen to refill with bullets after bombing it). I still set a new personal LLS record with 87 million points, but it'd have been nice to have reached 90 million (much easier on Hard than on Normal, the higher bullet cancel bonuses and clear bonuses add up)... well, at least I know I can do it now. Hopefully my next attempt won't have 10% slowdown like that attempt did.

By the way having to wait through the credits every time you game over on LLS stage 6 is annoying.

Are you using Next?

If so, try Anex.  Sound isn't as good and there are other issues but it's leaner.
I already use Anex86. Mainly because the window could be easily resized. I didn't know it was also faster.

For some reason I get inconsistent slowdown while running PC-98 games and HyperCam 2 at the same time. Sometimes I can record with 0-2% slowdown; other times it gives me as high as 10% (except for MS Extra, where it averages 17-20% if I reach Alice's 8th-9th phase, except for one particular day when I managed to record and upload an Extra clear). It seems to be around 4% on average. It used to happen with some of the newer Windows games as well (10/12/12.8, the former two occasionally and the latter always), until I started using the vsync patch all the time, which seems to have fixed it.

I used to think it related to the HyperCam quality settings, but it seems to depend more on the particular day or something. Restarting my computer doesn't help, nor does trying again after a few hours. Anyone know a way to make it consistently faster, since I know my computer can handle it?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Swiftwater on September 01, 2012, 06:43:44 PM
Touhou Hisoutensoku

Reimu's 3rd Spell Card
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 01, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
I made it to Kokkuri-san's Contract in PCB extra... and I failed miserably. I think I would have made it to Ran's final card if I didn't lose so many lives during Princess Tenko.

For reference, how many extra lives does Ran give you and when? I know she gives you an extra life after Wizard Fox Thoughts.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 01, 2012, 11:38:13 PM
I made it to Kokkuri-san's Contract in PCB extra... and I failed miserably. I think I would have made it to Ran's final card if I didn't lose so many lives during Princess Tenko.

For reference, how many extra lives does Ran give you and when? I know she gives you an extra life after Wizard Fox Thoughts.
You only get one 1-up directly from Ran. The rest are from point items and the midboss.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Arcorann on September 02, 2012, 12:01:54 AM
I already use Anex86. Mainly because the window could be easily resized. I didn't know it was also faster.
Have you tried Neko? Seriously, it has better performance than T98-Next and better emulation than Anex86 (perfect for TH02-05), yet not enough people use it.

For some reason I get inconsistent slowdown while running PC-98 games and HyperCam 2 at the same time. Sometimes I can record with 0-2% slowdown; other times it gives me as high as 10% (except for MS Extra, where it averages 17-20% if I reach Alice's 8th-9th phase, except for one particular day when I managed to record and upload an Extra clear). It seems to be around 4% on average. It used to happen with some of the newer Windows games as well (10/12/12.8, the former two occasionally and the latter always), until I started using the vsync patch all the time, which seems to have fixed it.

I used to think it related to the HyperCam quality settings, but it seems to depend more on the particular day or something. Restarting my computer doesn't help, nor does trying again after a few hours. Anyone know a way to make it consistently faster, since I know my computer can handle it?
What codec are you using? What background processes do you have open?

As for my own rage? Tried MS twice yesterday, once on Lunatic, once on Normal. Lunatic run ends on Stage 4. Normal run? Also ends on stage 4. What the hell.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 02, 2012, 12:18:03 AM
Just failed an LP recording of Touhou 11 on Lunatic with MarisaB.  I am devastated.

No-deaths all the way up to Satori, at which point things went terrible.

2 deaths to Satori's 1st spell... I can live with that, just barely...
Catastrophic, diabolical Stage 5.
Several bombs and a death to Petaflare.
Died to TEN EVIL STARS WHAT ON EARTH NO NO NO THIS CAN'T BE-...

Gameover on Utsuho's final spell with FULL power.

I'm alright with attempting another recording though, mainly because I was an absolute nervous wreck throughout the whole thing, so I'm more than happy to improve it commentary-wise (although I sort of got better towards the end, at which point I was greeted by many a failure).

Still, I'm appalled by how poorly I did from Satori onwards and shall now throw myself out a window.


Edit:  I rewatched the recording, and I guess it's... decent... in terms of watchable material...  I might upload it some time as a Let's Fail, who knows, but not now.  I'm too depressed to upload it now.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 02, 2012, 12:27:46 AM
Use homing Reimu gerdammit
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 02, 2012, 12:28:55 AM
First attempt at MoF lunatic no bombs:
perfect Stage 1
perfect Stage 2 (more consistent at this than I thought)
capture midboss Nitori (yay!)
die to fairies right after (I expected to die so meh)
die to pre-Nitori fairies because impossible walls
ragequit
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 02, 2012, 01:27:28 AM
Use homing Reimu gerdammit

Homing Reimu sucks in SA, the shots aren't even direct homing, just curved.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on September 02, 2012, 02:09:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wExSa.jpg) (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23614)

Lame score with solo Youmu (because I don't know how to use almost anybody else lol), that one death when all of the slave fairies started popping up at once. Ended up having to deathbomb stuff, which cost me some time points.

(*replay by clicking image*)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on September 02, 2012, 02:57:35 AM
Homing Reimu sucks in SA, the shots aren't even direct homing, just curved.
ReimuB is actually not as bad as people make her out to be. Obviously nowhere near ReimuA, but if you ask me ReimuC is a worse shottype overall. ReimuB's shots aren't quite homing, but they do pierce, which is useful for those who have trouble with Orin (any of her appearances here) or possibly the laser grid before boss-Yuugi. In the stages, there aren't a whole lot of places where it would really help to take out enemies right away (you should be memorizing the aimed/static stuff anyway, and most of the dodging sections aren't especially hard), so the lack of range from the fact that it's not a true homing shot gets nullified somewhat. I tend to treat ReimuB like a slightly wider but slightly weaker version of ReimuA, and aside from using the bomb differently it works out well enough.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 02, 2012, 05:29:52 AM
I like how basically any Lunatic run I try nowadays falls into either one of two categories:

1) I lose all my lives within the first 3 stages.
2) I make it to at least the stage 5 boss with at least 3 or 4 extra lives.

There's no halfway point.

It's even more infuriating for SA, where the cycle goes:
1) Screw up on Stage 1 because I still have no idea how to consistently do it. Restart.
2) Go back to step 1.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Karisa on September 02, 2012, 06:50:18 AM
Have you tried Neko? Seriously, it has better performance than T98-Next and better emulation than Anex86 (perfect for TH02-05), yet not enough people use it.
I didn't know there were any other PC-98 emulators, actually. I guess I could try it.

What codec are you using? What background processes do you have open?
The codec is an old version of ffdshow that for some reason works best out of what I've tried (newer versions seem to have removed features, I tried upgrading once then reverted to a version from mid-2010). As for background processes, whatever runs by default on Windows XP Service Pack 3, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on September 02, 2012, 08:24:12 AM
Sigh.

Even though I've reached the point where Touhou is just no longer capable of producing the AAAAAAAHHHHHHH kind of rage from me (barring the very rare extreme piece of bullshit), it's just been plain wearing out my patience. It's reaching the point where I'm only playing it maybe half an hour a day, all games total, and not batting an eye over not getting any achievements at all on a given day. And between what feels like a mountain of requests (it's only four, really, but they're all very very hard by my standards, and working on them gets annoying fast), and the goals I've already set for myself (holy shit FUCK YOU "A Fantasy's Transience"), playing Touhou feels like unpaid labor. And with the prospect of starting classes in a couple days, well.

I really need a vacation from Touhou, I think. Problem is, I'm scared that I'll come back to it to find myself sucking too badly to even clear an easier Lunatic. not like that's already the case or anything
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ARF on September 02, 2012, 08:53:20 AM
Got 3-4 in DS with ultra patch down to 66 seconds remaining in a timeout attempt (no photo). Then I died miserably :P
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on September 02, 2012, 09:16:04 AM
Sigh.

Even though I've reached the point where Touhou is just no longer capable of producing the AAAAAAAHHHHHHH kind of rage from me (barring the very rare extreme piece of bullshit), it's just been plain wearing out my patience. It's reaching the point where I'm only playing it maybe half an hour a day, all games total, and not batting an eye over not getting any achievements at all on a given day. And between what feels like a mountain of requests (it's only four, really, but they're all very very hard by my standards, and working on them gets annoying fast), and the goals I've already set for myself (holy shit FUCK YOU "A Fantasy's Transience"), playing Touhou feels like unpaid labor. And with the prospect of starting classes in a couple days, well.

I really need a vacation from Touhou, I think. Problem is, I'm scared that I'll come back to it to find myself sucking too badly to even clear an easier Lunatic. not like that's already the case or anything

Aren't you getting a little too hung up over requests? Just pick challenges for yourself, taking requests actually sounds like a surefire way to wind up in exactly the position you find yourself in. Play what you want when you want - sometimes, taking a break helps more than forcing yourself through whatever it is you're doing.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: TheRinSolstice on September 02, 2012, 01:34:11 PM
I was fighting Ichirin and Unzan when I was dodging the bullets around me instead of watching out for Unzan'a giant fists of doom, and I got owned :/
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 02, 2012, 03:31:39 PM
Yet another day of guess what: UFO LUNATIC. :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on September 02, 2012, 03:52:29 PM
MoF hard :
Entering Kanako fight with 2 lives.
Entering VoWG with 1 life left.

 :colonveeplusalpha:

That spell...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Archin on September 02, 2012, 11:49:16 PM
-_- UFO Normal, I need to play this more. I don't even know whats coming up when I play. Not exactly sure which shot type I want to use either, could just do my usual, Marisa B
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 03, 2012, 12:02:19 AM
-_- UFO Normal, I need to play this more. I don't even know whats coming up when I play. Not exactly sure which shot type I want to use either, could just do my usual, Marisa B

Practice makes perfect. UFO Normal gave me a hard time too, but I 1cc'd it eventually. Used SanaeB.

Anyway... I just went through the derpiest run of SA Normal ever. I died twice at Yuugi and clipped Flying Insects Nest. What is this I don't even.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Archin on September 03, 2012, 12:25:18 AM
Practice makes perfect. UFO Normal gave me a hard time too, but I 1cc'd it eventually. Used SanaeB.

Anyway... I just went through the derpiest run of SA Normal ever. I died twice at Yuugi and clipped Flying Insects Nest. What is this I don't even.

I know, I always over look UFO. SanaeB seems to be really good. I'll probably stick with her.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 03, 2012, 04:49:42 AM
Oh wow I had 2 extra lives going into VoWG for my second Lunatic 1cc, and I couldn't clear it. I can clearly see the power differential between basically all Marisa shot types + Reimu B and ReimuA/ReimuC. Not to mention that VoWG has absolutely no empty space cleared when you bomb unlike LFS, and this card might really be one of the harder final cards to clear... Although I guess the proper comparison would be trying ReimuB against LFS, and I haven't done that so...

Anyway, I highly doubt that I'm going to get my 1cc with ReimuA unless I can actually get better at VoWG, because right now, I'm just getting murdered by it, and it alone. Like really. The only death I had on Kanako was at Source of Rains, and that was just me being stupid. I could probably get to VoWG with more lives by bombing basically everything that could possibly be a threat, but I think actually doing well on VoWG would feel more rewarding.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 03, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
>Finishes DS 6-6
>Total scene count 52/108
>"Yay, that means I've unlocked the Extra Stage!"
>Starts EX-1
>"ZOMG GIANT REIMU AMULET AAAAAH!"
>Pichuu~n
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 03, 2012, 07:03:31 PM
Obviously when I'm at 0 power with no bombs to lose is when I capture Terikuni. I hate that card so much.

And of course the time that I enter Kanako with 6 extra lives is the time that I game over before reaching Source of Rains. Oh joy.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: DgBarca on September 03, 2012, 07:34:11 PM
Well I stopped playing touhou for a while. Before I could clear any game before SA in hard mode but it seems that I completly lost the way I used to focus !
I can't play without doing horribly stupid mistakes in stages 1/2 even in normal.

I miss my skills please come back.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on September 03, 2012, 08:04:56 PM
Playing PCB Extra:
Missing the 800 point item extend by 4.
996M, Fuck I just want 1b, what the hell, Ran.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 03, 2012, 09:17:42 PM
20 minutes of MoF Stage 4 practice made it past Momiji three times!

>dies to popcorn fairies
>dies to popcorn fairies
>dies to pre-Aya crows

The hell.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 03, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
MoF Stage 4 is EZ
you just dodge bullets
(translation: random dodging is what I'm good at, this stage is mostly random dodging)

Shame I missed a second perfect of the stage by dying to the last spell  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 03, 2012, 09:20:26 PM
MoF Stage 4 is EZ
you just dodge bullets
Yeah, I can do that as long as I die to Momiji beforehand. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 03, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Ah yes. Stage 4. Please stop dying to PWG all the time Zengeku. You used to be better at this.  :(

44/190 rate. Pretty damn shitty.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 03, 2012, 09:40:08 PM
I am sad. Very very sad. Mega Flare... why?
[attach=1]

Approximately how many extra lives will be a good amount to tackle Utsuho?
Cause I know I can't just go waltzing into Stage 6 with 1 extra life that I lost at the beginning and expect to beat her.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 03, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
Tried PCB Hard at new PC...
It seems like my deathbomb reflex is non-existent when I play at a bigger screen, I don't really know why exactly.
Entered Stage 3 0/2 after horribly murdering Stage 2.
Reached Yuyuko 3/1, and 50% Reflowering 1/3, while pending an Extend. I didn't clear.
I feel like my skill really dropped. I can read the bullets fine, but I can't move accurately at all. Maybe I'll get used to it.
It could be that the 1-month absence also took it's toll. Damn this.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on September 03, 2012, 10:40:38 PM
I am sad. Very very sad. Mega Flare... why?
[attach=1]

Approximately how many extra lives will be a good amount to tackle Utsuho?
Cause I know I can't just go waltzing into Stage 6 with 1 extra life that I lost at the beginning and expect to beat her.

I would say three would be a good bet for your first clear, but thinking with that mindset won't do you any good - always go in with the thought of victory on your mind. Remember that Utsuho gets a good deal easier after Mega Flare, so you do stand a chance if you get past that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 03, 2012, 10:52:11 PM
One other thing: if you have a bomb as her last spell explodes, use it.  You do not want to double KO right at the end, and Utsuho is very good at hitting you when you don't expect it right at the end.  One of my friends almost did, but they managed to deathbomb instead of die.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 04, 2012, 07:46:18 PM
Mind: "USE YOUR BOMBS!"
Me: "But I can dodge this part!"
*See bubble heading straight for face and no room to dodge*
Mind + Me: "BOOOOOOOMMMMBBB-"
*Pichuun* (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23684)

 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 04, 2012, 10:43:45 PM
Hey uhh 9-4 and 9-7 (DS)? Please stop killing me so much.

I played through 7, 8 and 9 today and it took over an hour. Seriously. Thank you stage 9 for completely messing up my time. Or rather, those two spells in it that were annoying. I dunno about this speedrunning thing. I've already completely fucking lost it by taking far too long. Besides, i don't know about speedrunning things were two scenes of level 9 are a matter of luck to me.

It's also making playing the game less fun. Doing this as a race is hurting my experience i think so i'm just gonna stop. If I could clear the rest of the game while under 3 hours would be nice though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 04, 2012, 10:49:46 PM
*deep breath*
OOOOOORIIIIIIIN!!!!!!!
:getdown:

I'm okay now.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 05, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Hey uhh 9-4 and 9-7 (DS)? Please stop killing me so much.

I played through 7, 8 and 9 today and it took over an hour. Seriously. Thank you stage 9 for completely messing up my time. Or rather, those two spells in it that were annoying. I dunno about this speedrunning thing. I've already completely fucking lost it by taking far too long. Besides, i don't know about speedrunning things were two scenes of level 9 are a matter of luck to me.

It's also making playing the game less fun. Doing this as a race is hurting my experience i think so i'm just gonna stop. If I could clear the rest of the game while under 3 hours would be nice though.
1. Unlocking Hatate allows you to do the scenes you like to do.
2. Race?  With what, exactly?
3. 9-6 was my scene that took way too long (and I kind of lucked out on 9-7).  I think you'll still get under 3 hours total though, I majorly failed stages 11 and 12.
4. I went with a survival over speed mindset, knowing it'd be faster in the end.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on September 05, 2012, 01:17:31 AM
Tried streaming some LLS, went badly.  First round I crashed into Kurumi, second round I died because the rank was too low, decided to practice stages, messed up practically everything... So inconsistent right now and it hurts.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 05, 2012, 05:46:21 AM
Wow god freaking damnit. I died to PWG at 0 seconds left. And it was an easy pattern too.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Shimatora on September 05, 2012, 06:05:12 AM
Alice's Lunatic opener.  :ohdear:

Actually, all her openers. The midbosses AND the main boss. Fuuuuu-
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 05, 2012, 11:06:47 AM
2. Race?  With what, exactly?

I dunno, a race against my own expectations I guess. Pretty dumb to race against my own expectations though since they're always higher than what I actually can do. Realistic expectations is not my strong point.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 05, 2012, 03:13:09 PM
No-Focus ReimuC Touhou 11 Lunatic, so many derp deaths  :V (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23704)

I died to the start of stage 4 (oh man, should've bombed) and to the start of stage 5 (oh man, should've thrown myself out a window) and all over the place, urghh...

Only consolidation is that I could've definitely made it to Orin if I had only bombed during the very end of the popcorn section.  It's always the very end of the popcorn section that I die... be it no-focus ReimuC or any other shottype!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 05, 2012, 04:30:20 PM
Alright. Apparently capturing the first 6 scenes of Level 10 is taking 40 minutes now.

How utterly disgusting. I suck so much at this, it makes me sick. I think I better stop now before I break my jaw. I don't think there's much wrong with the game design even though 10-5 can go die in a fire. And I'm sure 10-7 will make me annoyed too.

The source of the frustration is simply how hard it is to stomach my own failing like a fucking retard, flying into bullets and not reacting to slow moving things. Failing at some of these things literally makes me feel retarded.

.... and rant about my own awful skills over. Writing these things down sure has some positive effort on cooling down and moving on.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 05, 2012, 09:02:16 PM
12-3. 12-5.

Also, would you count it against me if I TAS'd 12-6 instead of clearing it and counted it as a clear?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 05, 2012, 09:05:41 PM
Yes.  Do it for real, I've done it like 5 times already-once in a speedrun (where I did get the random death glitch right before shot 6 by the way)

12-3 UBER strat is what you should do  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 05, 2012, 10:09:54 PM
Dear 12-3,

You are the only obstacle keeping me from entering Stage EX if I want to stay in order of Level. Please get the fuck done and over with so that I can move on.

Speaking of which, anyone have a good way of dealing with the stupid jellybeans? I kinda don't want to die or waste a shot that I need to them.

Or I could just rely on the fucking RNG.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 05, 2012, 10:12:29 PM
Just center yourself and move up at charge speed, shoot, down at charge speed, shoot again, up again.  Or reverse up and down.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 05, 2012, 10:17:23 PM
How did this happen... I made it to Subterranean Animism Normal's final card with no extra lives and full bombs. I used a grand total of one before clipping a pellet and game over'ing. I was so close it's not even funny. So close to that Normal 1cc, yet the gravity of Okuu's sun pulled it away from my grasp. I am so disappointed right now. So disappointed.

 :fail: :fail: :fail:
[attach=1]

I suppose I'll pick myself up and try again sometime later... but still... what a disappointment...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 06, 2012, 04:28:51 PM
WHAT THE FUCK HIT ME
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 06, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
Fuck you Orreries' Solar System.

Fuck you Orreries' Solar System.

Fuck you Orreries' Solar System.

Fuck you Orreries' Solar System.

Fuck you Orreries' Solar System.

Fuck you, Orreries' fucking Solar System.

This card has little discernable predictability because aimed bullets don't necessarily make it obvious. I know to kill four familiars but sometimes that just isn't possible and yes, I know, the "learn to play" argument and you know what I know how to play, you move with the arrow keys and shoot photos with the Z key, focus with the Shift key, charge with Z + Shift, and flip your camera onto its side with the X key.

Even if you kill four fucking familiars you still have to keep a god damn eye out for the lasers coming from outside the fucking screen and it catches you off guard if you don't and you get killed by something else if you do. What the fucking fuck? Even if you make it overly simple it's not simple because everything moves at the same speed but in terms of angles the closer familiars move faster than the back so often you'll be trying to catch up with the closer familiars and die because you went around 270 accumulated degrees clockwise in relation to that fucking impossible-to-kill familiar just trying to evade the other shots.

I know I suck at this game but there's nothing I can do to make myself better that will cause me to stop hating this card, Kinkaku-Ji, Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, 10-8, Yuugyou Hijiri, 7-1, 7-7, all of Utsuho's spells beyond 8-2, All of Kanako's cards beyond 11-1, Yuugi's FUCK YOU spirals, and Embryo Dream Phase 2.

And don't bother helping me, Thanuris already tried and told me the right way, I JUST FUCKING SUCK AT IT.

If I clear that card before Saturday, expect me to start celebrating in the most overly-dramatic way possible.

I'm sorry for the rage but hey it's the first one in a while. I don't know how Yuugyou Hijiri, Kinkaku-Ji, or any of Kanako's cards didn't make me do this and yet this did.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 07, 2012, 12:47:56 AM
THIS
SO MUCH THIS
aside from the hating other scenes part, I hate a few other scenes
BUT I AGREE COMPLETELY ON EX-5
IT HAS NO REASON TO EXIST


This completely replaced my rage/sentiment on 9-7 by the way.  and anyone who was around when I tried that knows how much I hated it.
Quote
What's the single dumbest scene in DS?
9-7.
Is there any trick to it beyond dodge and pray you don't get an impossible wall thrown at you?

Kaguya's last spell rush+Kaguya herself=the second worst RNG hell. [worst being 9-7]

9-7 ( I know this one is utter BS)

(after BT said 318 shots)
I hate you.  I have over 5 times that amount of photos and still no clear.

this whole post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11309.msg770078.html#msg770078)
the description of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwnFlUwLtIA)
Yeah...still sucks but not the worst.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 07, 2012, 01:03:42 AM
Just dropping by to say that I hate Bullshit Solar System too. I don't care if legitimately doable or not. It's annoying and not fun. Off screen lasers.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 07, 2012, 01:32:02 AM
Oh god dammit Blazing Star stop being a jerk with your ovals that have Utsuhoboxes (Suns) and just let me fucking clear you.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on September 07, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
I need glasses (http://i.imgur.com/Z6dQR.png). How the fuck did I not see that?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 07, 2012, 10:35:41 PM
Hell and Heaven Meltdown!!! BAH!!! I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLCRAP!!!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 07, 2012, 11:03:59 PM
Hell and Heaven Meltdown!!! BAH!!! I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLCRAP!!!

Watched your replay, and damn... you were actually well in the running to getting that 1cc, it's just that the places you died really sucked.

I can give 1 piece of advice, and then keep my mouth shut, unless you actually want advice....

Fixed star, it has a safe height in between the inner circle and outer circle on all difficulties, reducing the spell to pure horizontal movement, find it and use it!!
If you'd like a replay then I can make one, otherwise best of luck!

Actually, I'll just throw this out there too:  graze the non-spell before Fixed star before you kill it!  That way you don't have to do anything crazy to get the life-fragment (like going up to the PoC and getting a great big sun to the face!  :ohdear:).

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: xForeverFanaticx on September 08, 2012, 01:12:08 AM
OH NOW THIS IS UNFAIR. I timed Hell's Artificial Sun out. But then at the end of the spell, the gravity towards the center is so strong that I get killed in the last second. Unfair :C
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Shimatora on September 08, 2012, 11:10:30 AM
1199/1200 (http://twitpic.com/asciea)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 08, 2012, 10:51:18 PM
Those in Kusoplay already know this story.

Alright, so I was holding a stream. I pulled some good dodging but horrible execution with my bombs. This led to me losing at Yuyuko's last spell.

I kinda broke down and cried after all the yelling I did was for nothing (If I know that someone's around I habitually give vocal reactions instead of mental).

Then I tried Juuni Jumon

And I have to ask: Puremrz, did you intend for people to 1cc Lunatic? The first fucking spellcard in the game pulls bullshit.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 09, 2012, 01:33:02 AM
I hate you, Maze of Love. I can't do it. Even though the strategy is so very simple, I just can't do it! I don't why, I just can't! I can capture everything leading up to it, but when I make it there, I fail completely!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yao-Kun on September 09, 2012, 03:54:21 AM
> 1cc SA for 1st time
> Want to post in Touhou Accomplished
> Replay Desync
> GODDAMMIT!!

And fuck you Flandre and your Maze of Love!!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chalros22 on September 09, 2012, 04:08:27 AM
1199/1200 (http://twitpic.com/asciea)

I died a little when I saw the picture. I am genuinely sorry for you, but hey that's probably the closest you can get and not make it, just do it one more time and grab another point item this time :P
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Drake on September 09, 2012, 04:31:47 AM
PCB 90fps runs are slaughtering me. I haven't played Touhou in a bit, it's really noticeable.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 09, 2012, 06:30:10 AM
Welp that's it. I officially suck at these games now. I think it's time to take a break because I really can't concentrate for beans on this game whenever I sit down to play it. I guess I'm just suffering from a bit of Touhou overload.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Archin on September 09, 2012, 08:50:04 AM
I was doing so good in SA normal, 6 lives on stage 4 no deaths. Failed everything on Stage 5 from stupidity and mad about, cause I know that level.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: DNAbc on September 09, 2012, 01:29:50 PM
[attach=1]

Things went downhill from Stage 4, fast.

What the fuck Orin.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 09, 2012, 01:41:15 PM
MoF :/

I had a completely deathless run until aya, captured karuta cross and then, PoC'd. my first death was ramming her. I was being a retard for the rest of the fight, causing me to die two more times. Sanae didn't go better with me dying twice at stupid points. and I game over'd against kanako :/ with 4 deaths. amazing. except one or two deaths, all were super retarded. I really want to shoot myself for that second half.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chalros22 on September 09, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
This is me on a whim just opening TD and trying to 1cc Lunatic.

GOD DAMNIT (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23792) apparently missing a perfect futo by 2 milliseconds killed my mojo and now I'm depressed.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on September 09, 2012, 05:30:03 PM
1199/1200 (http://twitpic.com/asciea)

Makes the point item that was dropped in Stage 1 and made you say "oh whatever no big deal" seem a lot more important, doesn't it? :V

I hate you, Maze of Love. I can't do it. Even though the strategy is so very simple, I just can't do it! I don't why, I just can't! I can capture everything leading up to it, but when I make it there, I fail completely!

That's how that card was for a lot of people, or at least me. For some reason you cannot do it for a long time, then one day it's easy. Just keep doing it and it'll click.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chalros22 on September 09, 2012, 06:23:28 PM
I hate you, Maze of Love. I can't do it. Even though the strategy is so very simple, I just can't do it! I don't why, I just can't! I can capture everything leading up to it, but when I make it there, I fail completely!

Just do the uber strat and micrododge between the lines. That's the only way I can do it lol and with Marisa or ReimuB it dispels pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on September 09, 2012, 07:00:35 PM
EoSD normal 1cc failed at Remilia's Red Magic, if my memory didn't failed at the start of 5th stage I could have lifes to beat Remilia's last spellcard :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 09, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
If only I didn't mess up at Orin so much...
 :fail: :fail: :fail: :fail:

[attach=1]

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 09, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23799 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23799)

I haven't got any idea why I died.  I know the safespot is very tight, but there's no reason why it should work for 2 waves and not the 3rd, unless I'm missing something.   :wat:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: redlakitu on September 09, 2012, 09:02:58 PM
My second ever attempt at PCB Hard ended on Repository of Hirokawa -Phantom-. On one hand, I never expected to make it that far and only tried PCB Hard today because Karisa told me I could pull it off. On the other hand, I made too many simple mistakes on Stage 4 and 6... so it's a strange case where the run is both satisfying and disappointing. Posting here because ultimately it was all my fault.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 10, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
3rd EoSD Lunatic attempt that ends on Scarlet Gensokyo... :qq:
What's particularly rage-inducing is the fact that I practiced stage 4, until I was able to do it pretty much perfectly.(Patchy and Spambooks not included, of course.)
BUT, when the actual run happened, I started failing all over the place, entering 6/3 and leaving 3/3.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 10, 2012, 05:48:09 PM
Dammiit!! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23817)

I came SO close to completely perfecting stage 5 of touhou 11 lunatic, and then I went against every brain cell in my head and moved in  a suicidal direction on Orin's final non, god dammit! 
Carried on and captured her last two spells, so it would have been completely perfect had I not been a total idiot and messed up that non, arghhhh!!  :fail:

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 10, 2012, 08:13:41 PM
That sucks, especially when you perfected everything after it as well.  I usually ragequit if I die near the end of a stage just so I won't know if I would have perfected it otherwise. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 10, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
Seriously... (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23824)

Perfect everything then failed again, this time a death to Orin's last spell card instead.  I guess it was a fair death though, because I knew I was circling her way too slowly or something, was only a matter of time before bubbles trapped me...  :ohdear:

That sucks, especially when you perfected everything after it as well.  I usually ragequit if I die near the end of a stage just so I won't know if I would have perfected it otherwise. <_<

Yeah, when going for this perfect run I'll ragequit anytime before Orin's final non-spell, did get 1 run to the spell before that and just rage quited because the death there was incredibly silly.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chalros22 on September 10, 2012, 11:17:25 PM
Need to take Kyouko's first boss spell more seriously :O (see attachment)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 11, 2012, 01:38:02 AM
Orin needs to stop omnomnoming on my extra lives.

But seriously... I think I'm losing my motivation with this SA normal 1cc. The best I've done was when Okuu's final card had 1.5 centimeters of health left. During that run, I had no deaths till Orin, and things went downhill from there. I haven't been able to find the motivation to try my best since then. My most recent run included two Stage 4 deaths and like 3 during Orin. And when I made it to Okuu... boom massive failure at first card... rage quit. I don't know why Orin's fight always messes me up... I have pretty much everything until that fight learned, and then when I make it to Orin's fight... bam... massive derp. If I'm lucky to make it to Okuu with any surplus lives, stuff ends at Hell and Heaven Meltdown or her final card.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on September 11, 2012, 02:15:01 AM
Bleh I failed at PCB extra at the last spell card of Ran with 20% of life, if I had not died at Kokkuri(or something like)'s Contract at 0 seconds to end, I could beat the extra mode for the first time :~

Orin needs to stop omnomnoming on my extra lives.

But seriously... I think I'm losing my motivation with this SA normal 1cc. The best I've done was when Okuu's final card had 1.5 centimeters of health left. During that run, I had no deaths till Orin, and things went downhill from there. I haven't been able to find the motivation to try my best since then. My most recent run included two Stage 4 deaths and like 3 during Orin. And when I made it to Okuu... boom massive failure at first card... rage quit. I don't know why Orin's fight always messes me up... I have pretty much everything until that fight learned, and then when I make it to Orin's fight... bam... massive derp. If I'm lucky to make it to Okuu with any surplus lives, stuff ends at Hell and Heaven Meltdown or her final card.

Don't give up, I can't even beat Orin (yet) :P One day you'll beat the 1cc challange ;)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 11, 2012, 05:30:22 PM
After about 5 hours I finally reach Orin again... start the fight, in-the middle of the first non, and then of all things the bloody phone starts ringing.

"You have got to be ****ing kidding me" x100

Died at the end of the 1st spell.

God dammit!!??
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on September 11, 2012, 07:15:10 PM
Every time I want to time out Vajra of Perfect Buddhism, I have to play through a very long and very boring stage which get annoying instantly!

I want someone to make a program which adds save states for Touhou. I am aware of hourglass, but that this is so buggy its unusable! Instead, I want one made, specificity for Touhou, isn't buggy to the point of being unusable and is esya to download!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 11, 2012, 11:31:18 PM
What is this I don't even...

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Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 12, 2012, 03:31:20 PM
I swear if I fail one more perfect run to Orin's final non-spell I'm going to ARHGAOSIHDOIAUHSLDUHN!!?!?!?  :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 13, 2012, 12:02:26 AM
Urgh man, this is so annoying. I've fought like 15 Kogasa fights just now and only three of them were no-miss no-bombs.

So fucking disgusting. Get outta here UFO. You are making me feel like a blind and retarded monkey.  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 13, 2012, 01:10:40 AM
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I fucking hate myself.

I died to Hailstorm, Dream Vine, I fucked up Stage 4 like I thought I never fucking COULD (This is 2009 levels of stupid for me, folks).

I'm just a fucking moron when it comes to this game. I know how to do it, I just never fucking execute it right. That's what I get for playing Touhou an hour before I'm supposed to go to fucking SLEEP.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 13, 2012, 02:16:15 AM
What. How I managed this, I don't even know.

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Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 13, 2012, 02:20:51 AM
What. How I managed this, I don't even know.

[attach=1]

Mind explaining so I don't have to do calculus just to figure that out? (Joking)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Phlegeth on September 13, 2012, 03:14:34 AM
Double Spoiler 8-8.  Fuck.  You.  Dubhe.  I did not pirate this game, you can stop killing me any time.  Seriously, everytime I get to two or last shot, it comes out of no where and smears me across the kitty in the nuclear symbol.

*Explanation so I don't get in trouble.  Dubhe was the first boss in Devil Survivor 2 and if you pirated it, during the boss fight with him an event won't occur making it unwinnable.  And speaking on that, I actually knew all the names of the stars during that attack.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 13, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/Dan_hz/vajrawhatelse.png)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 13, 2012, 12:23:35 PM
these perfect runs aren't good for my heart :v so much adrenaline.

failed the red frog at 00 seconds > restart > clears fred frog > dies to suwa wars at 00 seconds > fuck this :v
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 13, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
No, don't be like that. You can certainly do it! Keep trying man. You'll feel better for it in the end.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 13, 2012, 02:30:57 PM
what I meant with "fuck this" was that I'd stop playing for now. I know I can do it, it's just a matetr of everything coming together in the end. it's impossible for me not to make it when I could perfect the fight before :v sometimes I just need a break from playing the same stage over and over. that's all.

on a sidenote. I am only 3 seconds of Q.E.D away from perfecting the EoSD extra stage. I have become pretty consistent on Flandre. but my Q.E.D record speaks for itself with 0/60 so I dunno when I'll manage, but if I can capture it, I can do the run. easy as that. the PCB extra stage is like MoF extra. it's all a matter of happening at once and not clip on a spellcard or something like that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on September 13, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
<@SeppoHovi> >Break border to repository
<@SeppoHovi> >Die to the card right after
<@SeppoHovi> >die to the final card
<@SeppoHovi> >break a border to the final card
<@SeppoHovi> >bomb the final card twice

What a way to throw a run to hell. Good work there, me.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 13, 2012, 05:22:49 PM
I deathbordered.

While trying to perfect something.

Still, first time I've ever had a deathborder happen to me, so I guess that's something.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 13, 2012, 09:03:43 PM
Ohhh... dammmit... failed yet another perfect stage 5 touhou 11 lunatic, and this time to Orin's last spell card because I watched a bubble go straight for my face and was too nervous and shaking to even move to one side....

I've had so many runs come so damn close, and this latest run had got me super pumped, especially because I'd messed up her penultimate spell and somehow still captured it...  I was so damn sure this was the run, and her last spell is one of her easiest, yet I completely froze up and messed up another hour's worth of grinding...  arghhhh, I god damn arghhaahllllakmnsadsakk  :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 13, 2012, 09:08:19 PM
Wow, that sucks, those kinds of deaths are always the worst. At least you seem to be really consistent, so I'm confident you'll get that run sometime really soon.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 13, 2012, 09:55:28 PM
Still so many fucking deaths. No precision at all.

I need to stop being such a horrible player. That's two days of beyond awful playing in a row.

EDIT: Can't even capture fucking KKS now. Whatever. I'm being a retard. Time to take a break when I can't even dodge simple bullets coming down the screen. It's like something forces me to just pick a spot under Ichirin and then hope for the best. Except the best doesn't happen very often with this strategy. Death happens.  I'm supposed to look at a much wider area and dodge where there's least amounts of bullets instead of just sitting in one spot and dodging there like I seem to want to do. Can't even beat Kogasa without deaths either.

Two of the easiest bosses in the game and I am having serious trouble. I think this calls for a bit of a Touhou hiatus perhabs. I'll try a bit more tomorrow and at an earlier time. Hopefully I won't beat records in sucking by then.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 14, 2012, 01:42:21 AM
[attach=1]

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 14, 2012, 05:21:16 AM
>sees all these Suwako perfects in accomplishments thread
>decides to try a few times
>first run, game overs fairly early
>second run, 1st death to 01 seconds of 2nd survival
>ragequit
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Shimatora on September 14, 2012, 06:58:01 AM
Wanted a nice and relaxing Easy score run of PCB with Reimu A, casually using some scoring techniques but nothing too fancy. I get to stage 5, and lose about 5 lives to stupid deaths. Everything before then was fine. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 14, 2012, 10:44:53 AM
>sees all these Suwako perfects in accomplishments thread
>decides to try a few times
>first run, game overs fairly early
>second run, 1st death to 01 seconds of 2nd survival
>ragequit

I died to almost everything in the stage, except most nonspells from suwako, the kedama at the very beginning, 3 suwako spells and 2 kanako spells. I died to suwa wars at 00 seconds before. same for red frog. it's nota nice feeling, but I don't think you should stop because of that. if you can perfect nue, then you can perfect suwako :v
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 14, 2012, 03:24:12 PM
I died to almost everything in the stage, except most nonspells from suwako, the kedama at the very beginning, 3 suwako spells and 2 kanako spells. I died to suwa wars at 00 seconds before. same for red frog. it's nota nice feeling, but I don't think you should stop because of that. if you can perfect nue, then you can perfect suwako :v
Nothing is worse than losing a perfect run to Mishaguji-sama.  I failed there once.  Both survivals ended 3 runs and Froggy ended 4.  This should give some idea of how many attempt failed before 'the hard part' (more than 90%)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 14, 2012, 06:01:30 PM
Man... in the past 5 hours I've had 2 runs which were perfect all the way up to Orin's last spell, then got killed by rouge fairies/bubbles. 

It's funny how my technique captures it 90% of the time outside of these runs in practice, but re-watching the replays, it's clearly inadiquate if I keep getting random walls etc.

Been watching UKT's WR replay for a technique, and it's quite interesting... so I might try that, I just hope I don't have to spend another several days of grinding to get this run because I'm growing more and more depressed every time I get an almost perfect once in a blue moon, then f' it up somehow. Ahh well, blogs and stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on September 14, 2012, 06:03:51 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23886
GODDAMNIT FUCK WHY DO I HAVE TO FAIL SO HARD UNDER PRESSURE
nmnb stages 1-4
2 deaths stage 5
hurr durr stage 6 im gonna hang myself now kthxbb  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 14, 2012, 08:46:19 PM
[attach=1]

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 14, 2012, 08:49:00 PM
[attach=1]

 :persona:
Uguu~
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 14, 2012, 11:52:09 PM
Wow God damn holy what oh jeebus. Got to Okuu with 3 extra lives, and I died on Hell's Tomahawk. One death at 0 power to Peta Flare, one to each of her non-spells because I clipped something, and the last death on Hell's Tomahawk. The worst part is that each death other than the one to Peta Flare was at 4 power. Yes, 4 power. Just. Ugh.

And now that I'm remembering the run, I just recalled that this is the run where I lost a life to Yamame. OBVIOUSLY the run where I get to Okuu for the second time as ReimuB is the one where I screwed up in the beginning. Obviously.

And while I'm in this thread, let me just vent a bit about SA. I hate trying to 1cc SA. I hate it I hate it I hate it. I hate having life pieces being tied to whether or not you die on bosses. It's a stupid system, and it makes the game absolutely unfun to 1cc. I hate the sinking feeling I get when I clip something during a boss and realize that I not only screwed myself out of 4 potential bombs, but I'm also down 1.25 lives. It's not that big of a deal in MoF because the game is very generous with power. Aya drops something like 2 power over the course of her fight. She GIVES you 2 FREE bombs, and you don't lose any power with the first one you use if you start at 5 power. Satori? Well she gives you 1 power. 1 whole damn power. And all of her non-spells/spells are either hard or clippy, and if you bomb, then you're making subsequent cards harder, and THEREFORE bringing you one step closer to losing that extra life piece. I hate the system because it makes 1ccs an absolute pain to do.

And just venting a little bit more: SA stages 5 and 6 are TERRIBLE. I hate playing through them to get to Orin/Okuu, and it's an absolute drag. They're some of the worst designed stages in the entire series. Stage 5 is at least somewhat bearable because of midboss Orin, but stage 6 has just a crap midboss card. Absolutely terrible.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on September 15, 2012, 12:44:53 AM
God damn

jeebus
inconsistent swearing levels aaaaaaa
and it's tokamak
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 15, 2012, 12:50:25 AM
Woo! Got decimated by Koishi's first card!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 15, 2012, 12:57:27 AM
Arghh!
Hey, you're trying to re-1cc the game with ReimuB, imo one of the most annoying shottypes to 1cc the game with.  It's gunna feel like a drag, probably because ReimuB isn't that great a shottype.

Heck, I went with ReimuB as the 3rd shottype to 1cc the game with, and it was absolute hell, probably the hardest shottype to beat the game because the homing is really terrible in terms of damage and homing property, and her bombs need a loads of planning to be any use, something which I never really had to do for any of the Touhou games.

However, once you beat the game with ReimuB you'll find all the other shottypes alot easier... well, hopefully, at least I did.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 15, 2012, 03:10:02 AM
I made it to the nonspell after Xanadu of Straight and Curve and failed.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 15, 2012, 03:13:08 AM
I am now legitimately angry at this game.
Trying to perfect Youmu, capture Hell God Sword for the first time!  Made it to Components of Konpaku...and died to the first wave.
Let's try again, capture it again, die to second nonspell.
First nonspell.
Second nonspell (3rd consecutive Hell God Sword capture)
First nonspell again.

Ragequit.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chalros22 on September 15, 2012, 03:20:21 AM
Let's try again, capture it again, die to second nonspell.

I'm assuming you know the trick for Youmu's second nonspell right? Or are you just messing it up
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 15, 2012, 03:25:08 AM
I'm assuming you know the trick for Youmu's second nonspell right? Or are you just messing it up
I know 4 methods for handling it and have captured it with all 4  :V
1. sidestep the knives
2. go through the gap slightly off to the side
3. go up and misdirect the knives to go past you
4. macrododge the entire pattern up close to Youmu

That's why I was so pissed off, because it's trivial and I should never be failing it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on September 15, 2012, 06:48:51 AM
Woo! Got decimated by Koishi's first card!

Sit on the y, stream, sit on the small e, sit on the y, stream, sit on the small e, rinse and repeat.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on September 15, 2012, 06:49:37 AM
[attach=1]

:colonveeplusalpha:

Is that lunatic mode?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 15, 2012, 01:49:42 PM
Is that lunatic mode?

Yes.



Oh goody, I go from being tormented by the fact that I could have done it to being tormented by the fact that I suddenly suck at Perfect Freeze again. FUCK.



FUCKING LOVELY, I LOST TO SCARLET GENSOKYO WITH A FUCKING BOMB IN STOCK. JUST GREAT!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on September 15, 2012, 09:45:46 PM
UFO Extra, take 134 :

Perfected the first half of Nue fight, captured Undefined Darkness for the first time.
Entered the survival with 2 spare lives and 3 bombs.
"Ok I got this, it's like Danmaku Chimera"
Died three times in 20 seconds.

Whhhyyyyy  :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 15, 2012, 10:25:39 PM
Oh come the hell on!

The one perfect run where I go completely full stupid and die to Corpse Spirit "Vengeful Cannibal Spirit", and I carry on to perfect her final non, and her two final spells all in one. 

Of course, of course that would happen in that one particular run and not the thousands of other perfect attempt runs.

FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUARGHHH!?!  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 15, 2012, 10:32:52 PM
oh fine then lets just die to the first fairy in stage 2 :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 15, 2012, 11:17:20 PM
Went for an EoSD Normal 1cc w/ Marisa B. Game over'd at Red Magic.
MarisaA has spoiled me with her attack power...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chalros22 on September 15, 2012, 11:31:44 PM
I know 4 methods for handling it and have captured it with all 4  :V
1. sidestep the knives
2. go through the gap slightly off to the side
3. go up and misdirect the knives to go past you
4. macrododge the entire pattern up close to Youmu

That's why I was so pissed off, because it's trivial and I should never be failing it.

OK, I was just checking.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 16, 2012, 05:16:46 AM
That's twice in a row and maybe six times total I've 1DNB timed out DBDB, yet my capture amount still sits at two.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Delfigamer on September 16, 2012, 12:15:49 PM
And now that I'm remembering the run, I just recalled that this is the run where I lost a life to Yamame. OBVIOUSLY the run where I get to Okuu for the second time as ReimuB is the one where I screwed up in the beginning. Obviously.
My best IN Extra attempt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg-6qxhqqzU) is where I failed twice (or even thrice) until Mokou's second spell.

About good fails, there (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=10578) I've managed to meet Kanako with 3 lifes in stock, one was left at last spell beginning, and... I lost.
Some lifes were also lost during the way. Most stupid was, I think, at Nitori's Monster Cucumber. Though, I'm not good with that long sticks (I usually catch their end ._.), and bomb that spell. Ugh.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on September 16, 2012, 12:48:22 PM
About good fails, there (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=10578) I've managed to meet Kanako with 3 lifes in stock, one was left at last spell beginning, and... I lost.
Some lifes were also lost during the way. Most stupid was, I think, at Nitori's Monster Cucumber. Though, I'm not good with that long sticks (I usually catch their end ._.), and bomb that spell. Ugh.
Isn't that replay Dodgeball's?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 16, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
Isn't that replay Dodgeball's?
This (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23926) would be the correct one. It's not the first time I've seen people accidentally point to seemingly random old replays, it's pretty weird.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 16, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
That's twice in a row and maybe six times total I've 1DNB timed out DBDB, yet my capture amount still sits at two.
Assuming the deaths are always at the very beginning, it's because Satori starts the spell at the middle of the screen and backs off after the second wave. *_*
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 16, 2012, 01:13:15 PM
FUCKING LOVELY, I LOST TO SCARLET GENSOKYO WITH A FUCKING BOMB IN STOCK. JUST GREAT!
[attachimg=1]

Like this?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 16, 2012, 01:36:57 PM
FUCKING LOVELY, I LOST TO SCARLET GENSOKYO WITH A FUCKING BOMB IN STOCK. JUST GREAT!
You know what this means - you get the 1cc next run that reaches Remilia.

(This is a proven fact.)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 16, 2012, 02:14:34 PM
You know what this means - you get the 1cc next run that reaches Remilia.

(This is a proven fact.)

Funny thing is it's not going to happen again because Stage 1 suddenly fucking hates me again.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 16, 2012, 02:27:43 PM
You know what this means - you get the 1cc next run that reaches Remilia.

(This is a proven fact.)
I don't really think so. I have personally failed 3 runs to Scarlet Gensokyo already. The last one with a bomb in stock,
as portrayed by the the picture 3 posts above.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on September 16, 2012, 02:59:26 PM
When I was going for my first EoSD Hard 1cc, I must have had 10+ runs fail at Scarlet Meister or Scarlet Gensokyo, lol
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 16, 2012, 10:39:26 PM
Thanks for shitting all over that, guys. Much appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 17, 2012, 12:19:37 AM
Thanks for shitting all over that, guys. Much appreciated. :)

You're very much welcome and I hope you use our services again soon.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 17, 2012, 01:21:15 AM
Well despite how much stuff I said I "figured out" in the accomplishment thread, most of that stuff was really in the first 3 stages of the game, so in my last three runs, I no death'd until Satori, then proceeded to lose a ton of lives after that. SA is pretty hard when you're not using ReimuA, primarily because of how quickly ReimuA finishes off certain cards in the game compared to other characters. I can only imagine what UFO will be like... Jeez.

Edit: ... Oh God. I just captured Okuu's first, second, and final card for the first time. Only two problems... One, I forgot to save the replay, two, I BOMBED at the beginning of Subterranean Sun to get the power that was dropped. Ugh. Why am I so dumb?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Delfigamer on September 17, 2012, 08:09:13 AM
This (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23926) would be the correct one. It's not the first time I've seen people accidentally point to seemingly random old replays, it's pretty weird.
0_0"
Will pay more attention next time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on September 17, 2012, 02:08:53 PM
> plays MB Extra for fun

> Deadly Surprise Mini-Garden is trivial

> attempts to perfect Kanpukugu

> Deadly Surprise Mini-Garden kills me five times straight

well then
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 17, 2012, 07:50:13 PM
well.
extra stage PCB

> perfects the stage, manages to capture charming siege (one of the troublespots for me :v)
> busts border on non-spell after.
> out of frustration, I decide to bomb when i feel threatened to at least get a high score
> perfects the remaining fight

well. had that border not been busted :v but I'm close, I suppose. on a plus. I managed to break my old highscore by 148 million :v but somehow, doing this extra stage frustrates me more than suwako or flan. maybe I should skip it for now and do mokou or koishi. or something entirely different. I still have to 1cc UFO :v on lunatic.

and hard. XD
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 17, 2012, 08:00:30 PM
> plays MB Extra for fun

> Deadly Surprise Mini-Garden is trivial

> attempts to perfect Kanpukugu

> Deadly Surprise Mini-Garden kills me five times straight

well then
Even though I can usually capture it, that thing's terrifying. Good luck on perfecting a MB Extra though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on September 17, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
Hey let's try perfecting EoSD Extra with ReimuA!
Dicks around, still dicking around during survival.
Let's get more graze by moving closer to those bullets!
-dies- oh shit.
Captures QED.
Why god WHY?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 17, 2012, 09:38:54 PM
wat
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 18, 2012, 01:26:22 AM
Dammit... game-overed at Scarlet Meister with 2 bombs remaining when going for Touhou 6 Lunatic MarisaA 1cc.

The worse thing in this run has probably got to be the part where I died to the VEEEEEERY start of stage 3 with 4 bombs in stock, that was terrible, I should probably have restarted...  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Jq1790 on September 18, 2012, 02:58:28 AM
I should probably have restarted...  :ohdear:
As much as I'm commonly a hypocrite on this, I'll have to say "No" to that.  You never know what kinds of insane stuff you'll pull off later on by just keeping on your way. =)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 18, 2012, 08:15:33 PM
I just died twice to Mysterious Snake Show
:persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 18, 2012, 09:06:54 PM
I JUST FUCKING KEFIT'ed ALL OVER THE PLACE
FUCK YOU SELF AND FUCK YOU KAGUYA AND FUCK YOU MARISA
I'VE NEVER FAILED SO MUCH IN A GOOD WHILE
I MEAN COME ON HOURAI JEWEL
HOW COULD I HIT THE STATIC BULLETS 2 (TWO) TIMES AFTER DODGING THE STREAMS BY SOMEHOW GOING UPWARDS AND DOWNWARDS INSTEAD OF LEFT AND RIGHT?
HOW COULD I DEATHBOMB TO WRIGGLE'S FIRST SPELL?
AND HOW COULD I FAIL ALL OF MARISA'S NONSPELLS ?(and half the spells for that matter)
ALSO KEINE IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

At least I ND1B'd Reisen.
Shameful replay here (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23958).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 18, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
I JUST FUCKING KEFIT'ed ALL OVER THE PLACE
FUCK YOU SELF AND FUCK YOU KAGUYA AND FUCK YOU MARISA
I'VE NEVER FAILED SO MUCH IN A GOOD WHILE
I MEAN COME ON HOURAI JEWEL
HOW COULD I HIT THE STATIC BULLETS 2 (TWO) TIMES AFTER DODGING THE STREAMS BY SOMEHOW GOING UPWARDS AND DOWNWARDS INSTEAD OF LEFT AND RIGHT?
HOW COULD I DEATHBOMB TO WRIGGLE'S FIRST SPELL?
AND HOW COULD I FAIL ALL OF MARISA'S NONSPELLS ?(and half the spells for that matter)
ALSO KEINE IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

At least I ND1B'd Reisen.
Shameful replay here (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23958).

I remember getting angry like that when I was younger. Just practice and you'll get it. This shouldn't be a problem unless you have little to no free time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 18, 2012, 09:56:12 PM
I remember getting angry like that when I was younger. Just practice and you'll get it. This shouldn't be a problem unless you have little to no free time.
It's the sheer stupidity of the whole run that got to me. I would rage even if I were 85 years old. Just watch it and you'll wince in pain from the fail that just runs rampant everywhere.
However I do admit to having played a minimal amount in the last month or two. Like 1-2 runs per day. I got bored and I am devoting too much time to learning danmakufu.(reading manga too.)
There *exists* real life as well.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 18, 2012, 10:03:30 PM
It's the sheer stupidity of the whole run that got to me. I would rage even if I were 85 years old. Just watch it and you'll wince in pain from the fail that just runs rampant everywhere.
However I do admit to having played a minimal amount in the last month or two. Like 1-2 runs per day. I got bored and I am devoting too much time to learning danmakufu.(reading manga too.)
There *exists* real life as well.

1-2 runs a day is a minimal amount? What kind of overworker are you? 1-2 runs per day was my schedule and I didn't even always keep to that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 18, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
Capture Cat's Eccentric Step 3 times in a row, perfect stage 5 3 times in a row, fail against Orin's 1st spell 3 times in a row because I ram her/undead fairies.   Ahhhhh!!!  Hahaha  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on September 18, 2012, 10:31:21 PM
How many times have 1DNB'd that stage by now? lol
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 18, 2012, 10:33:24 PM
How many times have 1DNB'd that stage by now? lol

So many friggin' times, I'm smoking catnip  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 18, 2012, 11:06:07 PM
1-2 runs a day is a minimal amount? What kind of overworker are you? 1-2 runs per day was my schedule and I didn't even always keep to that.
1-2 runs from everything combined. Some day EoSD, some day SA, today IN. I had ages to try lunatic. That totals about 45 mins per day.
And I don't focus on a single goal, if that's what you meant. I just randomly play.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 18, 2012, 11:14:10 PM
1-2 runs from everything combined. Some day EoSD, some day SA, today IN. I had ages to try lunatic. That totals about 45 mins per day.
And I don't focus on a single goal, if that's what you meant. I just randomly play.

I don't focus one one single thing either, sometimes it's one thing, sometimes another :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on September 18, 2012, 11:18:02 PM
Everyone was rambling about how shitty ReimuB was in SA so I decided to try to 1cc the game with her and I gameovered at Orin's last spell

 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 18, 2012, 11:25:38 PM
I don't focus one one single thing either, sometimes it's one thing, sometimes another :V
Well then, you have a strange view on "overworking" :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 19, 2012, 12:37:37 AM
Fuck this fuck you Remilia

Get to first nonspell with 1 life 3 bombs

Does that just fine with one bomb

Dies with two bombs to Young Demon Lord despite having seen the card several times and knowing that he should have bombed

Clears second nonspell

dies to Thousand Needle Mountain on his last life. How insulting.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on September 19, 2012, 05:26:34 AM
UFO Normal, Needle Reimu.

Reached Stage 5 boss with 6 + 3 quarters.
Finished her with 3 left.
Reached Byakuren with 1 life and 1 half.
Failed on the horizontal curved lasers.


And I hate SA Extra all the way up to Koishi too.

Edit: Correcting lives >_> Also, F the space invader type fairies in UFO stage 6.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Lepetit89 on September 19, 2012, 10:21:04 AM
I remember getting angry like that when I was younger. Just practice and you'll get it. This shouldn't be a problem unless you have little to no free time.

Haha, "younger" as in "a few months ago"? Sorry, you've definitely improved a lot in that regard, just stuck out to me since my friends always laugh about me when I toss around phrases like "back in the day" (which I do a lot), made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 19, 2012, 11:45:12 AM
Play SA 90 fps Normal.
Enter Stage 5 with 2 Power and 7 lives.
Exit Stage 5 with 0 lives.
Something is terribly wrong here.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on September 19, 2012, 11:52:41 AM
NMNB until Shou
Gameover on her 2nd non
Ok.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on September 19, 2012, 03:16:35 PM
^

How did that happen?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 19, 2012, 03:36:57 PM
Dying to Shou's second nonspell three times is proven to be possible! Do consider that he's playing without summoning UFOs.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 19, 2012, 03:54:58 PM
NMNB until Shou
Gameover on her 2nd non
Ok.

Bloody hell, Shou was a bit of an ass there.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 19, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
[attach=1]
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/124/074/1305522397971.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Phlegeth on September 19, 2012, 11:29:32 PM
At least you didn't die at the end of the spell card
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on September 20, 2012, 02:12:43 AM
Consistently failing to timeout Patchy's Royal Flare is annoying me badly.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 20, 2012, 09:54:16 AM
At least you didn't die at the end of the spell card
It's my own fault anyway because I wasted all my bombs on her second spell
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on September 20, 2012, 04:05:15 PM
>perfects Megumi Yaobi

>wasn't recording

MB, get replays, ffs.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 20, 2012, 05:05:54 PM
*Sigh*
FFS UFO ALL I JUST WANT TO DO IS 1CC WITH MARISAA BUT NO YOU JUST HAVE TO RIG MARISA SO HER SPELL MAKES HER INSANELY SLOW AND I CANT GET THE LIFE PIECE OR THE P'S I NEED AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE GAME SO THAT I ALWAYS RAM INTO A BULLET GRAAAAAAAAA-
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on September 20, 2012, 05:08:00 PM
1DNB Greatest Treasure timeout.
While trying for a capture.

WHY IS MY SKILL AT THAT SPELL INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL TO THE POWER I HAVE GOING IN  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on September 21, 2012, 04:22:28 AM
*Sigh*
FFS UFO ALL I JUST WANT TO DO IS 1CC WITH MARISAA BUT NO YOU JUST HAVE TO RIG MARISA SO HER SPELL MAKES HER INSANELY SLOW AND I CANT GET THE LIFE PIECE OR THE P'S I NEED AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE GAME SO THAT I ALWAYS RAM INTO A BULLET GRAAAAAAAAA-
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH I'VE FAILED SO MANY RUNS ON THE MOST TRIVIAL SHIT BECAUSE MARISAA SUCKS AAAAAA
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 21, 2012, 04:24:36 AM
>perfects Megumi Yaobi

>wasn't recording

MB, get replays, ffs.
qft for truth more than I've ever qfted something before
MARISAA SUCKS
lies and slander
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: adrian7 on September 21, 2012, 11:03:33 AM
At least you didn't die at the end of the spell card
Well... fuck.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/2809/beztytuu2oh.png)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 21, 2012, 11:24:13 AM
Well... fuck.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/2809/beztytuu2oh.png)
:barf:
That sucks.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 21, 2012, 12:37:17 PM
Well... fuck.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/2809/beztytuu2oh.png)
Holy mother of D:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 21, 2012, 03:41:02 PM
Well... fuck.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/2809/beztytuu2oh.png)

Erm... wow... I blame Phlegeth.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 21, 2012, 04:38:41 PM
>Capture DBDB
>Capture Insect's Nest

Oh, I am definitely going to die to BoWaP

>Dies to BoWaP

Oh my FUCKING GOD.

I'm at the point where everything is trivial besides those two spells. And I die to the trivial part. Fucking fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on September 21, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
Well... fuck.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/2809/beztytuu2oh.png)

That happened to me back when I was about to get my first PCB Extra clear.


Also, I don't have screenshot, but yesterday I was trying to capture Blazing Star, and died at 00 seconds. Then I played non-stop until I caught it because I wouldn't sleep well after that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 21, 2012, 08:00:13 PM
>Capture DBDB
>Capture Insect's Nest

Oh, I am definitely going to die to BoWaP

>Dies to BoWaP

Oh my FUCKING GOD.

I'm at the point where everything is trivial besides those two spells. And I die to the trivial part. Fucking fuck.
That's worse than my death to Dipper Creeping Close back when I was perfecting Murasa. Makes me afraid, because I'm trying for Satori at the moment too. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on September 21, 2012, 10:53:59 PM
lies and slander
Real men use Mari-b.


edit:

169m PoFV Mari.  Incredible scoring breaks on the first five stages and magnificent to Aya (60-65m nd pre-Aya), then derped and died, but it was ok because it was at about 3:30 and I had held bonus most of the time.  Then the wheels came off.  Another Aya death with a bunch of chain breaks, three quick deaths to Komachi without a second spent at bonus, and nearly three more deaths to Eiki - barely scraped by on my last life - with hardly any scoring.

That was 200m (215+m if I had kept playing well).  My goal, I had it.  All I had to do was not completely fuck up.

Torn between the desire to vomit repeatedly and to curl up in a ball on the couch.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on September 22, 2012, 03:55:49 AM
I died to Ultimate Buddhist :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on September 22, 2012, 05:29:09 AM
I died to large box and small box (Parsee's bilocation card) by running into a pellet. Like literally I ran straight into it, I didn't just straddle into it, I WAS GOING TO THE OTHER SIDE AND I SMACKED INTO IT.

Also Meiling Kurenai can go fuck herself because she's the most problematic stage thus far mostly because I never anticipate my own deaths in that stage
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 22, 2012, 06:24:12 AM
I've got to learn how to do Spoiler 7 and 8.  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 22, 2012, 09:27:08 AM
> playing PoFV for a couple hours in match mode
> play with komachi (my best character, actually)
> fails infinitely
> managed to let the enemy get hit twice in all the games
> never survived longer than 3 minutes

the AI cheats, seriously :v what's with those dodging aglorithms (I know I spelled it incorrectly, pssht)? 

I know I am a horrrible player, but the AI never getting hit makes things unfair. I know that it'll crack eventually but if I have to sit there dodging tons of crap for 10 minutes, it becomes ridiculous. because 10 minutes is what it took the last time I let 2 AIs fight each other :V just an uneventful fight. God, I'm an awful player...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fsvgm777 on September 22, 2012, 01:36:36 PM
How to ruin a decent PCB Normal run with SakuyaB:
Enter Prismriver Sisters with 5 lives remaning, exit it with 0 lives remaining. Bear in mind that at least 2 deaths were with full bombs in stock (full as in 4 bombs). To make matters worse, I died to the first spellcard.
Maybe I should practice Stage 4 with SakuyaB to get the hang of Merlin's opener.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on September 22, 2012, 02:00:27 PM
> playing PoFV for a couple hours in match mode
> play with komachi (my best character, actually)
> fails infinitely
> managed to let the enemy get hit twice in all the games
> never survived longer than 3 minutes

the AI cheats, seriously :v what's with those dodging aglorithms (I know I spelled it incorrectly, pssht)? 

I know I am a horrrible player, but the AI never getting hit makes things unfair. I know that it'll crack eventually but if I have to sit there dodging tons of crap for 10 minutes, it becomes ridiculous. because 10 minutes is what it took the last time I let 2 AIs fight each other :V just an uneventful fight. God, I'm an awful player...

In Lunatic match mode the AI will dodge to the best of its ability and never intentionally get hit like in story mode, so yeah. And Komachi is not good at hitting this AI.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on September 22, 2012, 02:07:31 PM
I tried scoring in MoF extra.
Got such a bad score. My goal is 970m.
I can't deathbomb for shit. Most of the time I just get scared and bomb before getting hit.
I also can't pick up items even if my life depends on it. Dropped couple of items, picked up some at low value.
And I can't do the first non spell bomb because I always kill the fairies too quickly.
This is getting to me. I used to like this Extra for survival.
Maybe I'll do some no bomb scoring runs (but that just sounds retarded)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Mootsies on September 22, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
Well... fuck.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/2809/beztytuu2oh.png)
Well, you remind me of my friend who got in the same case as you, except the difference is, he died his last live, but the game actually count it as stage clear, guess you're just unlucky.. My deepest condolences. :ohdear: Too bad i don't have the replay. It would've been epic.

My own fail in MoF extra includes when I slipped up and jumped right into Suwako's chest in Snake eats the Croaking Frog spell, then flies forward between spell to non spell transition to pick up power points just to get smacked up with amulet, and got hit by the first ring in moreya iron ring (seriously, i don't know why myself). . That's really just pure idiotic  :V
 
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on September 22, 2012, 05:32:43 PM
Maybe I should practice Stage 4 with SakuyaB to get the hang of Merlin's opener.

Here's Malky's timeout. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wEkcB2nKe4&feature=plcp)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on September 22, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24045
Noooo what the fuck is this? Fuck you, EoSD hitboxes
Perfect 1-3
Books capture.
Perfect until Patchy's second non. Died just when it ended.
Clipped on two easy low rank spells. zzz
Stage 5 raped 4 of my lives. (Killing Doll killed me twice)
That Eternal Meek. I was forced into a corner and died right when it ended.
Game over by another clipdeath on Remi's opener.

Well, that's what I get for not playing full runs for about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on September 23, 2012, 06:35:50 AM
EoSD Normal Marisa B attempt. Died to Cirno's Icicle Fall, died to Cirno's last spell.
EoSD Normal Marisa A attempt. Died to Cirno's Icicle Fall, died to Cirno's second last.
SA Extra Reimu A attempt. Failed, failed, failed, failed, reached Koishi and died to the heart spell (3rd I think). Hate this stage.
MoF Extra Pacifist attempt with Needle Reimu. 2 deaths to Kanako's first non-spell somehow then died at the fairies that shoot the green orbs.
:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on September 23, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
Stage 5
(http://i.imgur.com/VzhHD.png)

Stage 6
(http://i.imgur.com/L7VGD.png)

oh my god that was my best run yet i was sure i'd have this I should have left with 6 extra lives what the fuck happened i deserve to get fucking shot in the head maybe this is a nightmare the noose might wake me up i'm the worst trash  :colonveeplusalpha:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24081
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 23, 2012, 03:56:48 PM
IMO it's kinda normal to die against Shou.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 23, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
Losing 8+ lives and countless bombs to stage 5?

Jesus...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on September 23, 2012, 06:07:55 PM
ATTN: Hourai Jewel

DAMN YOU
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on September 23, 2012, 06:28:52 PM
Now finishing GFW with less than 500-600 motivation is nothing new to me. But this last run I made some really stupid mistakes on stuff I normally don't die on, costing me yet another attempt at breaking 60 mil.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 23, 2012, 07:58:22 PM
[attach=1]
I must be Nue here

Also, I managed 2 Double KOs in the same extra run. Bravo me.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on September 23, 2012, 08:12:01 PM
I got to the last shot of Spoiler 7. FFFFFFFFF
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on September 23, 2012, 11:22:50 PM
PCB Extra: Perfect Ran up to Yukkuri-san's contract.
Suddenly 4 lives gone  :yukkuri:. I captured Izuna Gongen afterwards.
Maybe I can perfect this extra.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 24, 2012, 04:33:08 AM
I'm back at SA ReimuB Lunatic. I perfected everything up until the beginning of stage 4. Only died once during stage 4 (clipped a laser at the last array by accident), no death'd Satori, got to stage 5 with a pretty good number of lives, then proceeded to enter Orin with 3 extra lives remaining, and game over'd on Small Demon's Revival because I clipped the VERY last bullet of Orin's last non-spell. I'm really considering timing out midboss Orin's second non-spell or something because I constantly lose a life at Cat's Walk. ReimuB's bomb sucks so hard that I need at least 2 to reliably clear the card, and given how I'm already short on power upon entering stage 5 and how I need at least one as a contingency plan for her previous two non-spells... Well... Damn Cat's Walk... Why are you so hard. I only have issue with the very last part of a wave too, when bullets cross from 180 degrees in front of you. Everything else is a matter of not failing at reading, but Cat's Walk... Man I just can't stop my eyes from getting crossed, just like Okuu's second to last card.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 24, 2012, 03:42:13 PM
well, I decided to screw all the whole runs. I am not feeling the motivation to do so. that is why I am stage practicing a lot with the "perfect" in mind. I cam close with a couple stages. like IN 4B, MoF 4+6, SA 4,+6. TD 5+6 etc etc

now, EoSD. obviously, pefecting Remilia at this point is tough and everything, so I decided to start "low" with stage 3. and during a run just now, I proved that it is, in fact, possible to die on meiling's first non-spell. you know, the spiral one :/ but yeah, it happens.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 24, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
T-5
T-11
T-8

I think that's enough Lunatic Honor the Avoidance of Defiance with NF Reimu for today.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 24, 2012, 04:03:45 PM
well, I decided to screw all the whole runs. I am not feeling the motivation to do so. that is why I am stage practicing a lot with the "perfect" in mind. I cam close with a couple stages. like IN 4B, MoF 4+6, SA 4,+6. TD 5+6 etc etc
You sound just like me three months ago. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 24, 2012, 05:12:19 PM
> I am wanting to perfect them so that I can clear the games with anything that is not 0/0  or 1/0 or whatever I can have below 3 lives. :v

I don't do it because I am a perfectionist, but because I want to improve on parts I suck at. I AM DIFFERENT FROM YOU :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 25, 2012, 03:12:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd1OnjzsO2Y&

For those who are interested, feel free to enjoy a bit of my misery. I thought my channel had a bit too little fail in it so it didn't provide a realistic measure of what I can actually do so here's a little something to debunk any misconceptions about me being remotely decent. Enjoy  :3
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chalros22 on September 25, 2012, 05:17:56 AM
For those who are interested, feel free to enjoy a bit of my misery. I thought my channel had a bit too little fail in it so it didn't provide a realistic measure of what I can actually do so here's a little something to debunk any misconceptions about me being remotely decent. Enjoy  :3

It's ok, we still love you :)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on September 25, 2012, 10:58:38 AM
I... what...

Fuck (http://i.imgur.com/L87oF.png)....

..................................................................................................
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on September 25, 2012, 11:27:04 AM
Wow, that's horrible. We all have our moments like that, I think.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on September 25, 2012, 12:39:43 PM
I... what...

Fuck (http://i.imgur.com/L87oF.png)....

..................................................................................................
D:>
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 25, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
What card was that?

See this post. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13103.msg890867.html#msg890867) My throat still hurts.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on September 25, 2012, 02:08:36 PM
Her final card, obviously, given how there are no health bars left. 40M from the life, 16M from the bombs (I think). Kind of hurst, given how the final score was 1,051b. Oh well, moving on.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on September 25, 2012, 02:54:08 PM
I... what...

Fuck (http://i.imgur.com/L87oF.png)....

..................................................................................................

Reminds me of my no-death/no-bomb, perfect attempt, where I fucking broke a border at her final card. <.<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on September 25, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
EoSD Normal Missile Marisa attempts

First "run":
Died to Cirno's first non-spell (forgot about that spread)
Death-bombed to Cirno's first non-spell (second set of spread attacks >_>)
Died to Cirno's Icicle Fall
Died to mid-boss Meiling's spell card

I fucking hate Cirno, rawr.

Next "run":
2 deaths to Rumia's second/last non-spell whilst trying to graze the aimed lasers and not noticing the green circle shots coming down. Yeah, twice cause I'm stupid.

Next run I 1cc'd though >_> Apparently Remi is easier than Patchy and Sakuya (or just all of Stage 6 being easier than 4 and 5 in general). Sakuya stole most of my lives and I think I understand the knife hitbox bitching now.

And then failed the Extra terribly three times cause Marisa is just too fast for me (First at Four of a Kind, then at the Fairy before Patchy then at Royal Flare)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on September 26, 2012, 03:42:08 AM
/\Remilia is really easy indeed, Like, it has been like 3,5 weeks I first 1cc'd EoSD Lunatic (with Reimu-A), and at my second 1cc (2 weeks ago I think, with Reimu-B this time) I derped bad enough to reach Remilia with only 1 life and 3 bombs, and even wasted 2 bombs at her second spell card, YET I made it through her, despite still being new to Lunatic and having only 1cc'd two games at it (the other being PCB, also with both Raymoos, cuz she's awesome :V).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: DX7.EP on September 26, 2012, 05:23:10 AM
Went about attempting a 1cc of PCB Easy with SakuyaB, in response to two very botched runs of MoF Normal MarisaA and EoSD Normal ReimuB. Added music from other STGs to make the game much less sleep-inducing (except for Yuyuko, where I stuck the rocking UI-70 remix of her theme) and played with X360 controller with a few modified Joy2Key bindings.

Did pretty damn well overall, despite a few derp deaths, wasted bombs, and lack of captured cards (I usually don't even bother specifically for this), but I at least raked in a lot of extends :V. Got to Yuyuko with 2 lives, 3 bombs at the ready...and lost them all shortly after the third spellcard. A continue, two lives, an extend, and 5 bombs later, I get the all clear.

How bitter. Was pretty close to a first 1cc of any of the Touhou STGs, and then this.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 26, 2012, 03:50:38 PM
I played MoF STage 4 (lunatic, of course)

I captured PWG twice in a row. I also failed Aya's last time twice in a row.

therefore, I am doomed to never NDNB Aya, because I'll always fail either of them :v still laughing my ass off.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on September 27, 2012, 01:06:50 PM
For the MotK Challenge Week.

IN Normal, Solo Alice, No Vert.
Countless times I've died at some point against Mystia.
Fail Keine way often.
Reimu is hax (but actually getting easier).
Fuck Reisen, got to her just now with 4 lives, 3 bombs. Game over at Loafing Sign "Idle Wave". Bombed twice and then lost 1 whole life (with 3 bombs) to the PitA non spell just before that spell.
And my score is pathetic (406 mill on my best run which also ended at that spell).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on September 28, 2012, 12:37:04 AM
My cap rate for Emerald Megalith is higher than my cap rate for Silver Dragon. Sometimes I wonder if I'm mentally competent enough to play EoSD.

I will probably be posting here a bit more now that I've quit most non-Touhou or Psikyo shmups.  Also you guys have SA emoticons, awesome :toot:

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 28, 2012, 09:51:12 AM
Last I checked Silver Dragon is way more retarded than Megalith so it's okay. :)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on September 28, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
PoFV lunatic.

> enters final stage with 3 extra lives > still fails to 1cc.

wtf? how could I have possibly lost, still? god, I fucking died to shikieiki 4 times? XD this is ridiculous and was simply bad. > she sat on her last life for over a minute. 3 times, too. super annoying. (most of them didn't even last 2 minutes :v)

maybe next time, when I don't fuck eiki up like I just started playing touhou.

oh that and I don't fucking know how to score if PoFV. I never got further than "spam fairy level spells" :v
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on September 28, 2012, 11:51:43 PM
Dear God, so much death playing GFW. I'm still too rusty at scoring Stage 1 Lily White. And everything else for that matter.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on September 29, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
Ok.. I got to stop failing Vampire Illusion.
Just got another NB run up to Meister. Fuck it, if I didn't die on Vampire Illusion I might have cleared.
It wasn't even a wall(TM). My fingers just slipped.
I recently have been trying more and more with ReimuB than ReimuA. It's all Sakuya's fault.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on September 29, 2012, 01:11:41 AM
On two separate occasions, I got hit about 1 frame before capturing Summon Takeminakata. Why am I doing thiiiiiis
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on September 29, 2012, 02:42:49 AM
So I just made my first actual attempt at 1ccing SA with MarisaA (not counting the runs where I got used to her gimmick/shot power). Died twice on stage 3 because I overestimated how many invincibility frames I had for my bomb, died twice on stage 4 due to the same mistake, and I died 2 or 3 times against Kamikaze Straw Doll. How? I don't even know. It's PURE STREAMING. How did I fail that?

And yet somehow I still made it to Blazing Wheels before game overing. Sometimes I don't understand myself...

MarisaA is an absolute blast to play though. She's kind of like a mix between UFO SanaeB and ReimuA. Ungodly spread power, ungodly forward attack power, and an absolutely wicked bomb that has the power of ReimuC, but lacks its screen clearing capabilities. It's a breath of fresh air from the Reimu shot types that's for sure. SA is actually awesomely fun to play while using different shot types. Before I actually didn't like SA that much, but now I really appreciate how really different each shot type makes you play.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 29, 2012, 10:31:45 AM
The most annoying run I've had of EoSD for a LONG time. Attempted No Bombs.

I perfected everything up to Meiling, she cockblocked me by moving downwards on her third nonspell and I ace it [anyway, but I die to her finale EXACTLY when she STOPPED EXPLODING. No perfect Stage 3 for me, it seems.

Then I manage to get myself into a stupidly tight spot in the trivial streaming part of Stage 4 after the lasers because I wanted to collect point items of all things, which causes me to bomb on reflex. I promptly suicide.

The same thing happens at Patchouli's FIRST NONSPELL.

Then I decide to turn off my brain during her second and third cards (ReimuA). I tried squeezing between yellow bullets in both, failed in both. What the fuck was I even thinking.

Then I get out of an extraordinarily tricky Stage 5 walls section without a scratch and somehow screw up but not die to Misdirection, and ace the first nonspell at max rank.

Only to die to the first spell.
by the knives.

I then proceed to die to the third nonspell and actually do pretty fucking well on Killing Doll, about to capture it, when I die at the last second and lose my final life.

Holy fucking shit.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on September 29, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
So I just made my first actual attempt at 1ccing SA with MarisaA (not counting the runs where I got used to her gimmick/shot power). Died twice on stage 3 because I overestimated how many invincibility frames I had for my bomb, died twice on stage 4 due to the same mistake, and I died 2 or 3 times against Kamikaze Straw Doll. How? I don't even know. It's PURE STREAMING. How did I fail that?

And yet somehow I still made it to Blazing Wheels before game overing. Sometimes I don't understand myself...

MarisaA is an absolute blast to play though. She's kind of like a mix between UFO SanaeB and ReimuA. Ungodly spread power, ungodly forward attack power, and an absolutely wicked bomb that has the power of ReimuC, but lacks its screen clearing capabilities. It's a breath of fresh air from the Reimu shot types that's for sure. SA is actually awesomely fun to play while using different shot types. Before I actually didn't like SA that much, but now I really appreciate how really different each shot type makes you play.

SA best game  :)

Straw Doll catches a few people out, it seems like pure streaming, but you've got to know when to re-stream, and to re-stream WELL in advance, because those bullets linger for a long long time.

MarisaA really is quite a nice shottype!  I'm thinking of using her for my next No-Focus Lunatic run of the game as soon as I've No-Focused it with ReimuC.

Glad to see someone else getting into the rhythm of SA  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 30, 2012, 01:12:10 AM
Aya. Played her I guess 6 times.

Only 1 capture of PWG and Saruta Cross. Only 3 captures of Storm Day.
This doesn't make me angry. Rather really sad. I was better at this two years ago. This performance is in other words pitifully disgusting.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on September 30, 2012, 01:24:59 AM
I just failed PWG with 1 second left on the timer. It could just be luckshit but I feel like it's easier on the right side...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on September 30, 2012, 07:35:33 AM
Hey, welcome to my world.

1 second left.
3 seconds left.
2 seconds left.

So annoying.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on September 30, 2012, 11:10:37 PM
You can stop teasing me now, Remilia.

I was about to take a screenshot of my failed Scarlet Miester but I accidentally finished the card.

I died to the third wave. Her health bar, it didn't exist.

Not even a sliver.

I'm not kidding.

e: Have a good example, with a different card:

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/Dan_hz/th6s6.png)

It's the Remilia Scarlet Curse.

(I died, bombed in protest, waited for the bomb to die down and only then took the screenshot. Bombs do jack shit, so that is exactly when I died.)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 01, 2012, 10:24:05 PM
Trying no focus PCB lunatic.
border break Table Turning, no big deal.
3 bombs on Chen, that's fine.
use the bomb to the stage, get to Alice without dying, yay!
die to opener
die to first spell without using any bombs
bomb
die to 2nd spell
ragequit
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on October 02, 2012, 06:22:38 AM
PCB Hard, Sakuya A, first attempt (never used her before, seems really good)

Had almost no memory of Stage 4 past Lily, stage portion after her: 1 life, 2 bombs. Pris. Sisters: 4 lives, 3 bombs.
 ::)

Didn't even see the stream of blue arrows at the start of their first non-spell thus didn't move. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRGSlQrvHw)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 02, 2012, 04:41:31 PM
Didn't even see the stream of blue arrows at the start of their first non-spell thus didn't move. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRGSlQrvHw)
Quote from: Youtube
This video is private.
Sorry about that.
:D
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 02, 2012, 04:47:26 PM
Last I checked Silver Dragon is way more retarded than Megalith so it's okay. :)
Wait hold on I just noticed this.

What?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 02, 2012, 05:06:06 PM
Eh... it seems I had the idea that Silver Dragon uses Metal Fatigue bullets. Then i looked it out and it turns out it's just small bullets going down in straight lines. Well to answer your question BT. Silver Dragon is more retarded than Emerald Megalith in the sense that EM is actually a spellcard that requires dodging while SD is an effortless PoS card that it took ZUN around 30 seconds to make. Or whichever amount of time is short in regards to making bullet patterns.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 02, 2012, 05:13:25 PM
If you're talking about effort, yeah, of course Silver Dragon is lame. EM got a lot of things wrong, though; it wouldn't have hurt to change the tiny bullets' color to something that doesn't match the bubbles (he managed to do it in Chomlech, why not here?), and the card probably would've been better if he put in less bubbles and more bullets (so it'd be kind of like a multidirectional Triloton Shake or whatever it is called).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 02, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
My only problem with that spell is the bubbles. I don't like these bullet hitboxes because they are inconsistent with the rest of the series so I get a bunch of cheap deaths because of that.

I don't get your points though. The smaller bullets should have a different color? Why? It's perfectly possible to tell one thing from another and having bullets all having the same color is a thing many shooters use. I dunno if it's in order to make the reading aspect more difficult or if they're just lazy but I don't really understand why you'd have a problem with it other than cosmetic issues.

And you'd want less bubbles and more bullets for what reason again? To make it more similar to another card that's really easy? I don't follow you. Isn't it better for the game's spellcards to be as varied as possible?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 02, 2012, 05:38:40 PM
I don't get your points though. The smaller bullets should have a different color? Why? It's perfectly possible to tell one thing from another and having bullets all having the same color is a thing many shooters use. I dunno if it's in order to make the reading aspect more difficult or if they're just lazy but I don't really understand why you'd have a problem with it other than cosmetic issues.
They hide behind the bubbles. It's no fun when you're squeezing between two bubbles and suddenly bullets show up. Mostly an issue due to the hitboxes.
And you'd want less bubbles and more bullets for what reason again? To make it more similar to another card that's really easy? I don't follow you. Isn't it better for the game's spellcards to be as varied as possible?
Again, hitboxes. I'm pro-variety, but flooding the screen with bubbles just doesn't work in EoSD, and it wouldn't be abnormal to have two similar cards (Patchouli has plenty of similar cards already).

These are just my preferences, anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 02, 2012, 05:40:32 PM
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 02, 2012, 05:47:55 PM
Maybe this is just my own eyes skewing my opinion, but the green bullets in Emerald Megalith don't blend in that well with the bubbles, do they? I find them noticeably easier to see than, for instance, the small bullets in Peta Flare, and even those don't blend in with the suns completely. Like Zengeku said, EM is a dodging card, and I'll add that despite what others have said over the years, it's not bullshit. If you're getting walled at any point, you're not reading far ahead enough.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on October 02, 2012, 06:02:36 PM
I just died on one of the goddamn sheet thingies falling around in Stage 2 of EoSD. For the first time in my one-and-a-half year Touhou career. I didn't know it was actually possible.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on October 02, 2012, 09:50:31 PM
Silver Dragon is great.

Just pretend you have to run as many laps as possible between the left and right sides of the screen.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 02, 2012, 10:05:58 PM
Someone told me the best way to deal with it is to not move very much, now I hear that you're supposed to misdirect it?
:colonveeplusalpha:
I've been doing it wrong all this time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 02, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
i am now legitimately pissed off at my keyboard.
I push X.
Nothing happens.
I push X again, on the same attack.
Nothing happens, I die again.  This was an otherwise amazing run RUINED by my keyboard.  I ragequit because I just want to continue playing any more.

This is not a "you failed things".  This is a "keyboard derped so U DED LOLOLOLOLOLOL"=rage.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 02, 2012, 10:56:10 PM
I fucked up so much EoSD today. Like are you nuts. Keep dying on the fucking stage. And then when I finally get to the boss I blow it on something stupid there like the first non-spell or spellcard.

And everytime that happens I get to go through the blasted stage again. Driving me nuts. This stage is unbelievably bad, like it's hard to imagine a stage being more boring. It still kills me either because I'm falling asleep or forgetting things. Really annoying.

Even SDOJ's OST can't salvage this level. I still want that perfect pacifist though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on October 02, 2012, 11:03:33 PM
Someone
That was me.
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misdirect it?
Try it and see what happens.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on October 02, 2012, 11:42:12 PM
Quote from: Massaca
Didn't even see the stream of blue arrows at the start of their first non-spell thus didn't move. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRGSlQrvHw)
Quote from: Youtube
This video is private.
Sorry about that.
:D

Apparently I fail Youtube too >_> Was meant to be unlisted, eh, fixed for stupidity's sake.


Whilst I'm here. Had a few attempts at EoSD Extra Ultra (no autobomb) with Reimu B playing on my TV which I'm convinced makes things much harder (though I'm loosing that belief now). Died on Starbow Break on my first run then earlier and earlier until one failed at the non after Catadiatropic (or whatev).
Four of a Kind and Patchy's last spell are pretty hard now and Kagome Kagome can be a little tricky with the extra green bullets all moving to the right slowly. Maze of Love is pretty much impossible for me now since the gap is too small at the start (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ani2jNWhcQM) and I'd have to get through it at least twice. It's a 1 bomb otherwise.

Maybe if I stop dying on stage parts I'd have a chance. Books actually feel easier though as it's easier to make out a clear path to avoid them (or maybe it's cause I stopped using the retexture pack). Apart from that the only real difference with the stage is that the fairy before Patchy is a little harder but not terribly so.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on October 03, 2012, 01:48:16 AM
Insert generic rage story regarding PCB Lunatic and then a stream of just me cursing for about ten seconds. Now imagine that I recorded that entire run.

It'll be up tomorrow morning if something doesn't go wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 03, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
Playing through a really long and boring stage just to try and capture VOWG (which to me is the hardest final card in the series) is really irritating! Why can't I just play VOWG without playing the rest of the stage ZUN?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 03, 2012, 08:59:23 PM
I died three times while trying to pacify Sinkable Vortex.

So frustrating that I ended up physically punishing myself. Seriously. That was beyond pathetic and I deserve a beating when I fuck things up so badly. It's just a game yes but it's still pretty much the only thing I have to gauge myself with until I get into university so when the game doesn't go alright it means that essentially my entire life is going like shit instead of just most of it and that's frustrating.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Oh on October 03, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sBaK3.jpg)
My game time in PoFV doesn't even exceed an hour, but I still want that Lunatic 1cc done.
This is a blind run, I haven't even cleared normal yet.
Damn, the AI is pretty mean. On my second last extend, I got her down to her last life (I had 3/5) Still lost.

Then I continued and beat her on my 5th life (in total).
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: crystalgreatsword on October 03, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
I was doing so well, and then I died to Double Black Death Butterfly on Phantasm. :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 03, 2012, 11:49:21 PM
Welp I tried taking a break from SA for a bit to return to EoSD. I tried a ReimuA 1cc... Game over'd to the aimed rings in stage 6. Go me.

Even better is that I tried Extra immediately afterwards, forgot how everything went, and still made it pretty far into Flandre. My noticeably fail deaths were at Starbow Break because I didn't know that bullets could spawn at like halfway up the screen, and I game over'd on... Wait for it... Yeah the completely aimed bullet streams after Catio- whatever it's called. The one with all the blue bullets. Big woop for dying to completely aimed stuff!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 04, 2012, 04:17:06 AM
"Hello Forgotten World"
"Goodbye motivation"

This putting aside the small fact that I struggle to chain Stage 2 anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 04, 2012, 05:10:22 PM
I was doing so well, and then I died to Double Black Death Butterfly on Phantasm. :V

Don't worry, that spell is ridiculous. (Even though I captured it on my first try)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 04, 2012, 06:00:54 PM
"Hello Forgotten World"
"Goodbye motivation"

This putting aside the small fact that I struggle to chain Stage 2 anyway.

It's one of those things that ought to be easy but isn't, even if I'm holding down + left or right and focusing with ReimuA. When two of the waves overlap and totally block me off, that's just annoying.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 04, 2012, 10:31:04 PM
Oh Marisa... OH MARISA.

I don't know if this will apply to any game aside from SA, but 1cc'ing that game as Marisa is annoying. Why? Because there are several patterns that basically force you to switch between unfocused and focused movement, and Marisa's high movement speed is just murdering me on those patterns. Everything else is pretty doable. The worst offenders are without a doubt stage 5 midboss Orin's first non-card and Blazing Wheel, but I've died many times to such other gems like Okuu's first two cards and especially Mt. Ooe. Ugh. Bubble bullets + slightly bigger hitbox + faster movement does not make a good combination. Really though, I can't seem to remember too many other cases in other games where I've run into the same difficulty while playing as Marisa...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on October 04, 2012, 10:38:04 PM
Oh Marisa... OH MARISA.

I don't know if this will apply to any game aside from SA, but 1cc'ing that game as Marisa is annoying. Why? Because there are several patterns that basically force you to switch between unfocused and focused movement, and Marisa's high movement speed is just murdering me on those patterns. Everything else is pretty doable. The worst offenders are without a doubt stage 5 midboss Orin's first non-card and Blazing Wheel, but I've died many times to such other gems like Okuu's first two cards and especially Mt. Ooe. Ugh. Bubble bullets + slightly bigger hitbox + faster movement does not make a good combination. Really though, I can't seem to remember too many other cases in other games where I've run into the same difficulty while playing as Marisa...

You're managing to get that far though, which is awesome  :3
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on October 05, 2012, 12:34:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/OdWWM.png)
Bullet comes in a straight line towards me, I keep moving downwards until I hit the bottom of the screen and die.
And of all the times to do that, I decide to do it on LFS during a LNBNUFO run.

lol, fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 05, 2012, 09:22:49 AM
>Plays Marine Benefit Extra mode for the first time, as Marisa
>Reaches Kanpukugu with 2 lives and 2 bombs (?).
>"Okay, she will be fun, I've seen her patterns on a vid before".
>Game over at her second spellcard.

Fml. Her non-cards feel like Shou's lazors. But I still like them. :3
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 05, 2012, 01:28:17 PM
Murasa No shooting.

First attempt:

- Dies on second non. Dies on Sinkable Vortex. Dies on third non. Dies on third card. Fuck.

Second attempt:

- Dies twice on Vortex and twice on third non. Fuck.

Third attempt:

- Dies on first non, twice on Sinkable, three times on third non. Ragequit

Fourth attempt:

- Dies on first non. AGAIN. twice on Sinkable because why not. And then another one on third spell.

WHY the fuck am I so useless?! This is frustrating beyond words. Ughh.  :barf:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 06, 2012, 06:41:56 AM
>"It feels bad to have 3 Lunatic 1ccs and not having 1cc'd UFO Hard mode yet... gotta play this thing."
>Derps bad, and gets to Shou with only 4 lives.
>Dies twice to her first spellcard.
>Dies to Varja with spare bombs.
>Ragequit.

Fuck this game.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 07, 2012, 12:40:51 AM
Cool, I failed Kyouko's midboss spell four times in a row. I guess I'm going to leave TD for last.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on October 07, 2012, 01:31:03 AM
Damn it hands do something right for once like I don't know EoSD FUCKING LUNATIC WHICH I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR A DAMN MONTH, nay, I've been going for EoSD Lunatic since fucking MARCH.

There's always some stupid, arbitrary reason for my inability that requires me to start over either due to a game over or due to the fact that I have so few lives that at this point I might as well declare fuck it because it's impossible at this point for me. I died three times to Meiling, I died to Remilia's opener, I had the worst possible Patchouli fight, I died twice to midboss Sakuya, some kind of bullshit that seems to justify my loss or surrender that I can't even fucking grow to better myself and get rid of. If I become more prone to bomb I'm going to become reliant on bombs and lose (or possibly lack) any sort of dodging ability that I happened to have, and if I stay how I am I'm going to keep doing this until I turn into BT or Kefit and actually do good at this bullshit.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 07, 2012, 03:11:46 AM
Holy crap, since when did playing three and a half worlds in Kirby's Return to Dreamland suddenly make me so bad at Touhou? So many stupid deaths in stupid places while practicing SA Stage 5, and I couldn't even bring myself to use strategic bombs for some reason. This does not bode well for the 1lc.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on October 07, 2012, 08:23:21 AM
> Perfect Nue up to Rainbow UFO
> 1 bomb there.
> 4 deaths in 20 seconds at the survival.
> Game over.

Two times in a row.
 :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 07, 2012, 02:23:21 PM
Virtue of Wind God, Virtue of Wind God, Virtue of Wind God, Virtue of Wind God!

Why can't I capture you? I know your the hardest final card in all of Touhou but JUST LET ME CAPTURE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on October 07, 2012, 02:27:23 PM
're.

And it isn't the hardest.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 07, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
^
It is for me. :P
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on October 07, 2012, 10:33:24 PM
And it isn't the hardest.
LFS HARD, PLEASE DIE
That's all.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 07, 2012, 11:10:53 PM
And it isn't the hardest.

More like one of the easiest.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Arcengal on October 08, 2012, 06:50:28 AM
More like one of the easiest.  :V

Quit yo' trolling boy.  :V

But yeah, Scarlet Gensokyo is way harder. For all the wrong reasons, certainly, but still...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 08, 2012, 09:43:31 AM
It's not trolling. Imo it's easier than LFS, Astronomical Entombing, Scarlet Gensokyo and Hourai Jewel. It's still a hard card though if you don't shoot.  :V Definitely harder than 80% Reflowering, Miko's whatever or Subterranean Sun.

But that's of course a pretty subjective thing. Hourai Jewel is easy if you learn it but according to most shmups logic having to memorize still counts as difficulty.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 08, 2012, 03:52:32 PM
But yeah, Scarlet Gensokyo is way harder. For all the wrong reasons, certainly, but still...

I've survived longer into SG then VOWG so VOWG is the harder card. :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 08, 2012, 03:56:08 PM
LFS HARD, PLEASE DIE
That's all.

LFS is easy for me.rpy :P (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24318)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 08, 2012, 04:14:20 PM
Grind MoF Stage 6 and VoWG will be easy too. Easier, in fact.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 08, 2012, 04:29:21 PM
Grind MoF Stage 6 and VoWG will be easy too. Easier, in fact.

If there was a save-state program that isn't hourglass, (because it's ridiculously buggy) then I would.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Heian_Alien on October 08, 2012, 05:03:14 PM
LFS is easy for me.rpy :P (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24318)
HOW.

And I just looked. I HAVE STILL TO CAP THE NORMAL VERSION,AFTER A COMBINED OF 25 ATTEMPTS.
As for VoWG, I can easily timeout the Normal version, and have more than 50% consistency at Easy and Hard versions.As for Lunatic, I have once come 5(approximately)  seconds from capturing it.
LFS loves to destroy everything I hold dear. My eyes cannot stand it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Naut on October 08, 2012, 05:03:45 PM
If there was a save-state program that isn't hourglass, (because it's ridiculously buggy) then I would.

Why, back in my day we spammed stage practice just for VoWG, and we hated it young lad!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 08, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
Why, back in my day we spammed stage practice just for VoWG, and we hated it young lad!
It's a new age.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 08, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
Why, back in my day we spammed stage practice just for VoWG, and we hated it young lad!
What Seiga said. We are lazy and can't be bothered to play an entire stage just for 1 spellcard. :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 08, 2012, 05:20:22 PM
HOW.

Lots of practise.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 08, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
What Seiga said. We are lazy and can't be bothered to play an entire stage just for 1 spellcard. :V
Don't talk for all of us.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 08, 2012, 05:41:32 PM
Why, back in my day we spammed stage practice just for VoWG, and we hated it young lad!
I spam stage practice for it, and DON'T hate it because I'm going for a perfect of the stage simultaneously, and Yamato Torus is a fun spell too.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: K.B. on October 08, 2012, 05:45:52 PM
Why, back in my day we spammed stage practice just for VoWG, and we hated it young lad!
irc.  now.
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This channel lacks balance when Naut is not here


Edit:


This game. (http://imageshack.us/a/img844/8262/whywhywhywhywhywhywhywh.png)

Sometimes I just... (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24413)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on October 09, 2012, 12:52:31 AM
From a no-bomb run. (http://oi46.tinypic.com/2jakity.jpg)

Was going pretty good until Fraps decided to shit the fuck all over it. 5 consecutive deaths to Chiyuri. And no, I can't play without recording; it runs like a nightmare. If Fraps stops cooperating then it's the end of the run.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on October 09, 2012, 12:16:57 PM
For once, I aced stages 1-4 (according to my route) in PCB normal, up until Prismriver's final card. Which killed me twice. Went on, this had happened before and I knew how to fix it. Would just lose quite a few millions from stage 5.

Got back on track, messed up some pre-Youmu borders. Got the border for the endstage streaming, failed the streaming (?????). Youmu's boss form went ok, until I messed up my borders and got one just as her final card finished. Fuuuuuuuck. No border for stage 6 spam = suicide, turn 182379487 items into powers instead and fuck up everything. Causing me to lose the 1400 extend, too.

Die to Yuyuko's first card and second non (lol). Break a border to Reflowering like a fucking idiot.

1,45b (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24422)........ All that potential lost makes me cringe in disgust. Shit.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 09, 2012, 02:48:31 PM
Damn it hands do something right for once like I don't know EoSD FUCKING LUNATIC WHICH I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR A DAMN MONTH, nay, I've been going for EoSD Lunatic since fucking MARCH.

There's always some stupid, arbitrary reason for my inability that requires me to start over either due to a game over or due to the fact that I have so few lives that at this point I might as well declare fuck it because it's impossible at this point for me. I died three times to Meiling, I died to Remilia's opener, I had the worst possible Patchouli fight, I died twice to midboss Sakuya, some kind of bullshit that seems to justify my loss or surrender that I can't even fucking grow to better myself and get rid of. If I become more prone to bomb I'm going to become reliant on bombs and lose (or possibly lack) any sort of dodging ability that I happened to have, and if I stay how I am I'm going to keep doing this until I turn into BT or Kefit and actually do good at this bullshit.

Ace, I have a present for you. :D (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24380)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 09, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
How did I become so terrible at Utsuho's first card? Am I really that out of practice?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: PMW on October 09, 2012, 11:41:50 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbng52ieYr1r6ui98o1_1280.png)

GOD DAMNIT  >:(

I had bombs  :fail:

At least I had a ND1B Yuki fight
:V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Massaca on October 11, 2012, 12:40:14 PM
You guys will not ****ing believe how ridiculously brain dead I was during this spell. (http://imageshack.us/a/img836/5692/colonveeplusalphainfini.jpg)
Note: My other death in that run (which I quit just into stage 4 because I screwed that too) was to stage boss Ichi's first non-spell cause I looked away to see how many lives I had whilst movingback and went into the stream of bullets >_>


Oh, and I had my very first run at Ten Desires earlier today, completely blind. Didn't even know about trancing (and in fact I didn't have a C key due to Key Remapper >_>). Reached the last boss' second last spell card with Marisa on Normal. Go back later for some more tries and kept dying or bombing in stages 1 and 2. Have a try with Reimu, reached last boss' first or second spell, then dying in stage 2. Switch back to Marisa (after a crappy Sanae and Youmu attempt both of whom I dislike) and I reach Seiga, die to mid-boss first non-spell, die twice to stage boss first spell, ragequit.
I have like 0 caution after the first try and I just play recklessly and extremely stupidly dashing around often into enemies coming on screen as I'm going to collect stuff.

 :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 11, 2012, 01:52:41 PM
Aww fuck that man.  :( Lost a NMNB Patchouli ReimuA to Forest Blaze.

How fucking stupid.  :(

EDIT: It was only my second attempt against her so I guess it's not that bad but i'm still rather disappointed. I died in a very stupid way. Pushed to the corner and then somehow figured it was a good idea to dash across half the screen to get back to the middle again.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 11, 2012, 08:16:45 PM
Aww fuck that man.  :( Lost a NMNB Patchouli ReimuA to Forest Blaze.

How fucking stupid.  :(

EDIT: It was only my second attempt against her so I guess it's not that bad but i'm still rather disappointed. I died in a very stupid way. Pushed to the corner and then somehow figured it was a good idea to dash across half the screen to get back to the middle again.
Ever thought about doing the whole stage, or do the books (understandably) make you think otherwise? You've always seemed like someone crazy enough to do the whole thing to me. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 11, 2012, 08:31:00 PM
Those books are harder than any pattern in UFO for me. Too hard. Especially when there's a mean boss at the end of it who can easily stop any attempts that are lucky enough to make it past the books.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on October 12, 2012, 04:20:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wQspV.png)

Pacifist run.  S4 fairies get really hard when you can't shoot them :<.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 12, 2012, 06:18:26 AM
>Tries Hard no-bombs in EoSD
>Dies to Meiling's last card when she had NO life bar remaining.
>Perfect stage 4 until dying the worst way possible in Patchy's last card (Reimu-B).
>Awful stage 5 run, with 2 deaths in mid-Sakuya and another 2 in boss Sakuya.
>Reaches stage 6 with 1 spare life.
>Loses it in Scarlet Meister.
>Game over in Scarlet Gensokyo.

...  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Delfigamer on October 12, 2012, 01:29:22 PM
I hate Shou. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOZfgEd6y0I)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 12, 2012, 03:23:07 PM
That's it. I'm done. I am not going to perfect MarisaA Patchy.

I've had enough. It get's me really angry and there's no fun involved so I'm just gonna stop even if it's annoying that I didn't get to NMNB all the Patchouli's. The game just sucks too much for that. The stages are so terrible that it physically hurts to play through them and even if the boss itself is great, it's just too soulcrushing to have to repeat 3 minutes of misery over and over again just because I lost to Sylphae Horn or another one of her mean attacks.

It's sad and pathetic to give up like this but my soul is taking damage. It's frustrating me and failing it makes me feel so worthless.

This game is a lot of fun when it is fun but it is very bad when it is bad which is unfortunately most of the time. Goodbye you stupid kusoge, i'm off to play something better.

EDIT: Excuse this whining. I just really needed to get this off my chest. And figure out how to deal with the shame.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 12, 2012, 06:00:59 PM
Dude, don't worry about it. I agree that EoSD is pretty bad, or at least it's pretty bad compared to every other Windows Touhou game out there. Though since I don't know exactly how long you've been trying to get that perfect MarisaA Patchy fight (only recently vs., say, months on end), I don't know if suggesting a permanent break from that stage would be the right course of action.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on October 12, 2012, 08:49:18 PM
Fantasy Heaven! Y U SO HARD!?!  :wat:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 12, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
Dude, don't worry about it. I agree that EoSD is pretty bad, or at least it's pretty bad compared to every other Windows Touhou game out there. Though since I don't know exactly how long you've been trying to get that perfect MarisaA Patchy fight (only recently vs., say, months on end), I don't know if suggesting a permanent break from that stage would be the right course of action.

I have like 10-12 failures on camera and the best I've managed is a 2 miss no bombs run. I don't complain about my inability to get a perfect run of such a tough boss in only 10 attempts, my problem is the awfulness and length of the stage which is also the reason I haven't bothered to do perfect runs of bosses like Byakuren.

I enjoy the challenge but not being able to just try again when I fail and have to sit through a 3-minute load screen is what pisses me off so much. These games have terrible practice options since the stages are usually memorized in less than five runs. I have like 10 clips of Patchouli that are all 30 seconds long. They ended on the first card. It's a very long stage to go through just to lose at the first card and have to go through the stage all over again.

In other words, I'm a whiner. I apologize but I'm saving this boss for the day where someone makes a savestate tool that actually works.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Straielst on October 13, 2012, 08:48:25 AM
I tried a lunatic run on Ten Desires with Sanae.
Managed to complete the first stage without a single death or a bomb, was too stubborn to use a single bomb on the second stage. My lunatic run ended on the second stage.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 13, 2012, 09:44:22 AM
Fantasy Heaven! Y U SO HARD!?!  :wat:

Probably because it's the hardest spellcard in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 13, 2012, 10:10:36 AM
Isn't it just memo?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 13, 2012, 01:53:23 PM
Isn't it just memo?
Reimu's movements are not static IIRC. That doesn't necessarily matter in some parts of the card, but depending on what route you're trying to learn her movements can screw things up.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on October 13, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
Yeah, Reimu's movements do appear to be random. That can screw up an attempt. :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 13, 2012, 08:23:42 PM
Huh. Well imagine that. Just be happy that you can infinitely grind it in spell practice instead of going through a boring ass stage to fight Fantasy Heaven. Yep, i'm still bitter.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on October 14, 2012, 12:52:53 AM
Yeah, Spell Practice is pretty awesome like that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 14, 2012, 05:13:03 AM
You know... I swear that ZUN purposely made Satori's MarisaA fight as a gigantic middle finger to the player trying to get the 1cc with absolutely no ability to control Marisa (aka me). Let me break this down:

Enter Satori with 8 power.
Bomb either/both the opener or/and the second non-card because they're cliptastic and I don't trust myself with Marisa's higher movement speed enough to risk losing a life piece + a life.
2-3 bombs on Terrifying Hypnotism because I can't do that card with Marisa's higher movement speed.

So by the time I'm to Satori's 3 "Alice specific" cards, I'm at either 5.33 or 4.33 power or so.
Usually bomb Spring Kyoto Dolls once or twice depending on how much I screw up/whether Satori decides to be nice with random movements.
And now comes the biggest middle finger: Straw Doll Kamikaze. This card is piss easy. This card is a freebie, kind of like Yuugi's Shackles card. There is only one big problem... It's near impossible to capture with 4 power or less. Satori moves so often and the timer on the card is short enough that you can't freaking damage her enough to finish the card before you get a timeout of it. So you either get to lose a life piece or use a bomb to try and eke out the damage you need to finish it off. Congrats you just needed to bomb the easiest card in the game to get its life piece. God damn it.
And Return Inanimateness is maybe a 1-2 bomb. This card is designed so you can't abuse MarisaA's absurdly powerful bombs. Try and run up to it to maximize bomb damage... You've just screwed yourself because the entire array is aimed and you'll need to use another bomb to go back down. Woo hoo.

So now you get to enter stage 5 with somewhere around 0-2 power. Guess what? You get to fight midboss Orin with like 3-4 power because you almost certainly are going to bomb the orbs at the beginning with 2 power. Have fun with that! Ugh. I just want to get this over with and never bother to use Marisa in anything serious ever again :(.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 14, 2012, 02:08:46 PM
As if I didn't already to some extent, I now officially hate TD Nue's first card. What a stupid concept for an attack. Was ZUN really that low on ideas when making TD, that he'd have to resort to neutralizing the whole "reading trajectories" aspect of these games?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 14, 2012, 02:46:06 PM
The first attack is pretty out there, but I don't think I dislike it or anything.

Zengeku, a bit late, but if you're bitter about EoSD Stage 4, there's always that one better stage that doesn't have much of a stage portion to grind. :D
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 14, 2012, 04:32:55 PM
Nue's first is just a typical TD card. It's weird to see people like you two regard it as anything but a trivial midboss card.  ???

Also BT. What stage are you talking about?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 14, 2012, 05:02:11 PM
It has some property that makes you fuck up sometimes.

I'm talking about Stage 6! Mmm, not sure if you'd like it, actually, but Remilia is really fun after a while.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 14, 2012, 05:10:56 PM
Remilia? You mean the boss whose difficulty comes almost entirely from bad hitboxes? Maybe she's fun when you get used to those hitboxes but my patience with anything usually runs out after run 5 so I don't think I'd like her.

Besides. Her stage sucks terribly too. It's just shorter.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chum on October 14, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
Remilia has got to be one of the most inconsistent fights in the series. Some of the attacks are really fun, others will just bullshit you sometimes. I absolutely hate Young Demon Lord. Scarlet Meister is her most fun attack I'd say, and Gensokyo is awesome in its own way, even though it is one of those attacks that may bullshit you. I enjoy Patchy more but yeah her stage is no fun to have to sit through multiple times just to have a shot at the boss and Remi's is just like a minute long, and maybe less if you bomb Sakuya.

I game overed in the GFW C-1 route. I can't believe I didn't even get to finish the run because of all the deaths (none of which were intentional. I'm not at that level yet.) A few bombs were used for defensive measures too and did not net me any points... Is it just me or is this route really hard survival-wise? This will need some time to score 70m in.

Remilia? You mean the boss whose difficulty comes almost entirely from bad hitboxes? Maybe she's fun when you get used to those hitboxes but my patience with anything usually runs out after run 5 so I don't think I'd like her.

Besides. Her stage sucks terribly too. It's just shorter.

What's wrong with the stage, It's just like all the other Touhou final stages, very short and mainly just a chance at scoring big points.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 14, 2012, 05:30:12 PM
What's wrong with the stage, It's just like all the other Touhou final stages, very short and mainly just a chance at scoring big points.

Yes and I don't like them either. There's not a single final stage in Touhou that I can consider good. They are nothing but a metaphor for a giant middle finger saying 'fuck you, if you wanna practice you gotta suffer because this series practice options are terrible' which usually means that I don't get to practice the bosses that are actually difficult.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 14, 2012, 05:35:11 PM
Would you rather go through PCB Stage 4 before a boss, or EoSD Stage 6?
4 minutes or 1 minute.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 14, 2012, 05:40:29 PM
PCB Stage 4 should really not go into consideration... ever... really.

Mid Sakuya is nice, though. :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chum on October 14, 2012, 05:46:55 PM
Yes and I don't like them either. There's not a single final stage in Touhou that I can consider good. They are nothing but a metaphor for a giant middle finger saying 'fuck you, if you wanna practice you gotta suffer because this series practice options are terrible' which usually means that I don't get to practice the bosses that are actually difficult.

You're just not very patient. It's not the game's fault that you only care about the bosses. I don't think the stages have to go balls to the wall on the player all the time. They can occasionally be slow paced or not have a lot of action and I prefer faster-paced stages myself, but a few slower ones here or there is just variety IMO.

EoSD stage 6 has three portions before Remi, 1: Random spam, not hard, but it can kill you if you're slacking off. If you want it to be more exciting, try to PoC as early as possible towards the end. 2: ring fairies. Yes, you can trivialize them with a simple tap to the side. Even so, this portion only lasts for like 10 seconds. Try bombing them, It's gratifying. 3: Sakuya. If you try to tell me that she is easy, I will smack you  :D
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on October 14, 2012, 05:59:17 PM
Mm, nothing wrong with the random spam, and Eternal Meek is sex. Remilia's all kinds of amazing. If you can play through total crap just to get to VoWG then you can through a relatively short and decent stage to get to Remilia.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 14, 2012, 06:08:38 PM
EDIT:

The fuck am I saying? Please, guys forget about what I've been saying in this thread. I'm making a big deal out of absolutely nothing and it's absolutely pathetic. I don't like these levels but what's the sense in whining about it? Nothing. So let's just stop this now and let me stop blaming every damn thing that looks like a convinient scapegoat for my personal troubles.

I'm sorry about this.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chum on October 14, 2012, 06:18:11 PM
But it's literally a 1 minute long stage. Also, it does have variation and a bit of challenge (random spam ---> memo ---->balls hard midboss).

I just see you complaining a lot and I wonder why because It doesn't sound to me like these games (aside from the VS and Photo games, maybe?) are for you. Maybe that you're burnt out on them. When it comes down to it shmup stages are rarely particularly challenging when you've memorized them, I know you like CAVE games and they are no exception. That makes me wonder, what are your view on CAVE game first loops? Do you hate those too since you have to patiently sit through them in order to reach the considerably harder second loop? Not trying to start a heated argument, I'm just wondering.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 14, 2012, 06:33:56 PM
I don't enjoy Cave games that much anymore. I prefer Touhou's very random patterns actually. I think some Cave games are pretty good like DoDonPachi Daioujou but they are not quite doing it for me anymore. Things like Mushihimesama Futari God makes me really sad because the Larsa fight at the end of it is really good but the stages are just so memorization based and barely about on the fly dodging that they lose their appeal. That's why I prefer Touhou. Usually there isn't that much memorization, just hard boss fights.

I love DOJ BL's second loop but I don't like the first loop. I think it's boring. For this reason, I still find myself playing it from time to time but that's only save-stated second loop stages. I don't play full credits of it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 15, 2012, 12:04:02 AM
I made it to Koishi's final spell for the first time ever today with an amazing game and 3 lives extra, capturing every one of her spells up until Genetics. Then I proceeded to bomb 6-7 times on Rose and still lose all 4 lives. Well, I'll just get it next time, right?

Nope, I just died and got my first ever failure on Paranoia (HOW?!) and then lost two more lives on Id.  :(

Edit: I died on Paranoia again. My near win has totally psyched me out and now I can't play this stage at all.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chum on October 15, 2012, 03:25:52 PM
I'm sorry about this.

I'm the one who is too confrontational for no particular reason. This thread is for complaining about failures so complain to your hearts content. Obviously  the bosses are the main attraction in Touhou anyway. And I can see how you'd grow to hate a stage if you just want to perfect the boss fight.

I prefer Touhou's very random patterns actually.

Same. Touhou also has more inventive and gimmicky patterns IMHO even if the stage design is not always the most exciting.

I love DOJ BL's second loop but I don't like the first loop. I think it's boring. For this reason, I still find myself playing it from time to time but that's only save-stated second loop stages. I don't play full credits of it.

Yeah, that's kinda what I expected. There may be more to memorize in order to stay alive in DOJ's first loop than in, say, MoF, but just because there's more of it doesn't mean you won't be playing through the stages with the same robotic actions once you do have the stages memorized.


Ok, now for my complaint of the day: GFW C-1 is making me want to pull my hair out. I've cleared it a few times, but usually with very little spare motivation, and I game over regularly. This route is so annoying compared to the others. In fact I might just eschew this route and not meet my personal goal after all... I simply didn't remember C-1 as this troublesome when I thought of the goal. At least I'll have to play through it with some compromises where I bomb various trouble spots just for survival, even if it gives less points, before I decide to give up once and for all. Seriously, C-2 is not this hard, and neither the A or B routes are, either. Not even close. ZUN and his balancing issues...!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 15, 2012, 09:13:04 PM
I made it to Koishi's final spell for the first time ever today with an amazing game and 3 lives extra, capturing every one of her spells up until Genetics. Then I proceeded to bomb 6-7 times on Rose and still lose all 4 lives. Well, I'll just get it next time, right?

Nope, I just died and got my first ever failure on Paranoia (HOW?!) and then lost two more lives on Id.  :(

Edit: I died on Paranoia again. My near win has totally psyched me out and now I can't play this stage at all.

I know that feeling. In my very best no-focus  no-bomb run on Phantasm I bombed at one point by mistake because I tried to break a border REALLY late, and it came out as a bomb. I could never make a similar run again, and I doubt I'll be able to do so soon.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on October 15, 2012, 09:23:08 PM
I just died to mysterious snake show thrice :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on October 15, 2012, 09:46:22 PM
What is wrong with me? Why do I seem to not learn anything and never win? PCB and EoSD are being jerks. If you've seen even one of my streams you know exactly what happens; I get far in the game, I fall apart due to having a degree of confidence. Repeat for two hours.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 16, 2012, 03:48:35 PM
The beginning of UFO sucks.
I dislike the music.
Busy Rod is annoying because bad enough RNG is almost an auto-death.
The stage is annoying because 1 small mistake means a restart.
The last spell is stupid because it's as clippy as EoSD (and if you tell me it's static memo, so what, I don't feel like grinding stage 1 unless I'm doing actual attempts so I'm not going to learn it)
Stage 2 is stupid bceause it's impossible to summon any UFOs.
midboss Kogasa is also very stupid in that her spell is "can you microtap precisely"

and I haven't gotten any 1cc attempts farther than that, though I'm sure if I reach Kogasa 6/2 like I plan to I won't bother to reset, and with decent play for the rest of the game I should be able to clear.  The problem is Stage 2 is a piece of crap almost as bad as Stage 3
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 16, 2012, 04:22:45 PM
Pretty much none of those complaints make any sense. Stage 1 too hard? Just memorize it if you really need to. Busy Rod? Please don't tell me that you die to that. I know that you are capable of much more IHNM. There are no circumstances whatsoever where the RNG will screw you over under that card. I want to see proof of that.

Last spell clippy? Then bomb it. Midboss Kogasa. I think she's a butt too. Just bomb that spell. I agree with you that it's stupid. Stage 2 impossible to gather UFO's in? If you are having trouble collecting UFO's which I can imagine could occur in the second half of the stage, use a bomb to collect your pieces. Or just go without them. I usually get to Kogasa with 5 lives and no bombs left. Don't bother with the optimization. Just try your best with what you get. Makes it more fun.

I've seen the kind of accomplishments you've pulled off and I know you are better than this.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 16, 2012, 04:38:53 PM
The beginning of UFO sucks.
I dislike the music.
That's why I listen to my own music. I bet anyone would get tired of a theme after listening to it for hundreds of hours.
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Busy Rod is annoying because bad enough RNG is almost an auto-death.
Yeah, I thought that too, but it gets easier the more you do it, like everything else. Except Nirvana's Cruddy Way in Purple.
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The stage is annoying because 1 small mistake means a restart.
Compared to other games, yes. You have to watch your route as well as your life.
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The last spell is stupid because it's as clippy as EoSD (and if you tell me it's static memo, so what, I don't feel like grinding stage 1 unless I'm doing actual attempts so I'm not going to learn it)
I find the bullets have hitboxes quite similar in size to their sprites. It's not really that bad if you just stay low and try to find gaps.
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Stage 2 is stupid bceause it's impossible to summon any UFOs.
How so?
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midboss Kogasa is also very stupid in that her spell is "can you microtap precisely"
Okay, if you play as Marisa she is really frustrating, I'll give you that.

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and I haven't gotten any 1cc attempts farther than that, though I'm sure if I reach Kogasa 6/2 like I plan to I won't bother to reset, and with decent play for the rest of the game I should be able to clear.  The problem is Stage 2 is a piece of crap almost as bad as Stage 3
Hey, I reached Kogasa 5/0, died to her twice and went on to clear the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joKtsglF-IE&t=5m40s
You're a player of much higher skill than me, you can do it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 16, 2012, 04:46:02 PM
I kind of need those resources because Stage 3 is guaranteed triple death.

I didn't say Stage 1 was hard, just annoying because it's easy to screw up.  I do get through it most attempts, it's just annoying when I don't.  The RNG doesn't screw me over, I just can't see a way to get to the other safe zone in time on Busy Rod.

I can't collect UFOs anywhere in Stage 2, though I think I've worked out a way of summoning 3 reds in the stage safely.

I refuse to accept any deaths before the Stage 2 boss in my runs.  Always.  Besides, I'd rather clear with nothing left than fail to the last card with a derp death in Stage 2.

I've seen the kind of accomplishments you've pulled off and I know you are better than this.
Thanks for the vote of confidence but what about my inability to play TD or even get a run past Kyouko

That's why I listen to my own music. I bet anyone would get tired of a theme after listening to it for hundreds of hours.

You're a player of much higher skill than me, you can do it.
>hundreds of hours
>has less than 24 hours on SanaeB across everything

>much higher skill
>watches your Stage 3
You know those resources you lost to Kogasa?  I'm losing those to Stage 3, 100% guaranteed because I can dodge all of 1 thing consistently.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 16, 2012, 05:42:42 PM
Psh, I just got lucky. My only other 1cc is TD normal. You've done all kinds of awesome stuff. The only reason my playtime is ~230 hours is because I suck so horribly I have to practice for that long.

You're a-okay if you can summon three reds in stage 2, that's the best I can do too. Four if I'm really lucky.
Stage 3 can be a bitch if you're not using Reimu or MarisaA, since the wall fairies breathe down your neck pretty bad, but you could just bomb there, really. KKS is another thing you should bomb, especially if you're not RA, MA or SB. You're bound to get those bombs back later, and if you don't, that means you haven't died, which means you didn't need them anyway.
Regardless, as long as you can finish stage 3 with 4 or 5 extra lives, you can definitely max out by the end of stage 4. Deaths in earlier stages don't really matter that way.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 16, 2012, 05:47:13 PM
max out by the end of stage 4. Deaths in earlier stages don't really matter that way.
I have a great UFO route that gets me craploads of green UFOs in Stage 4 forgoing all reds  :V
Which means that I'm getting 8 lives total but tons of bombs the way I'm playing.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 16, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence but what about my inability to play TD or even get a run past Kyouko

I usually play much worse than my usual mediocre performance when i'm playing a bad game so that might be where your problem is.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 16, 2012, 08:03:29 PM
Satori's second nonspell.

Y U be so clippy?!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 17, 2012, 12:40:04 AM
Satori's second nonspell.

Y U be so clippy?!
Because you aren't dodging it in the right location :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 17, 2012, 12:56:11 AM
Even if you know how to handle it, it's a pretty dumb attack. Gotta side with Bang Jan on this. It's similar to Kogasa's midboss card because there's really only one way to fuck it up and that's if you accidentally press your movement keys too hard.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 17, 2012, 03:36:13 AM
Oh VoWG... I feel as though I need at least 4 lives or something to get another clear of MoF just because of that attack. Like I seriously need to bomb every other second once it gets to the walling stage. It's absurd.

Even if you know how to handle it, it's a pretty dumb attack. Gotta side with Bang Jan on this. It's similar to Kogasa's midboss card because there's really only one way to fuck it up and that's if you accidentally press your movement keys too hard.
That's pretty much the way to screw up a lot of patterns. Hell I've screwed up Terrifying Hypnotism so many times because I've pressed a direction key a bit too much or I fail to read the bullets in time.

Also I don't think Kogasa's midboss card can be compared to Satori's non-spells. Kogasa's midboss card is very simple since the array is evenly spaced apart and once you go through the first two bullets, the rest is simply muscle memory. That's not the case with Satori's non-spells, which are different every time and you don't have a guideline that you can follow to get through the attack every single time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 17, 2012, 03:38:00 AM
That's not the case with Satori's non-spells, which are different every time and you don't have a guideline that you can follow to get through the attack every single time.
They're static.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 17, 2012, 04:31:18 AM
They're static.
The way Satori moves isn't, and thus the location where the bullets cross changes every time. Unless there's a way to make it so that she moves in the exact same fashion every time?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 17, 2012, 12:22:50 PM
Satori's movements hardly have anything to do with it. It's still the same dodges every time. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how to dodge it once you've already dogded it a few times before. It doesn't matter if Satori is positioned a bit more to the left or right or a bit up or down. It's so easy to compensate for that I never even noticed that she moves randomly if that is actually the case. I say it's reasonable to compare it to Kogasa's midboss card since it's all about precision. You will NEVER fail this due to you not managing to read it because it's the same thing every time.

Not implying that I personally have trouble clearing the non-spell at all, Kogasa's midboss spell is actually tougher like that, but it doesn't make the attacks feel less dumb and pointless.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 17, 2012, 07:02:19 PM
Tries to time out Futo's first card with Marisa.

Dies when there's two seconds left.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 17, 2012, 11:38:14 PM
EDIT: Stupid whining. Whatever. Something about Remilia being a tit. A flat one.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 18, 2012, 01:36:16 AM
I just died on the opening phase of boss-Wriggle's opener. Oh but that's not all. After the obvious restart, I hit one of the green bullets in her last nonspell.

*sigh* It's things like this that keep inhibiting my motivation to truly go after some of these full-game survival challenges. I know I'm better than this, but the bottom line keeps telling me otherwise, and it's getting fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 18, 2012, 03:54:07 AM
I... I went into Satori with full lives. How'd I lose them all? What... just happened? Sigh. Stage 5 just terrifies me so much that I'm reluctant to use bombs against Satori. I can't do anything in stage 5 consistently, so I feel as though I need to enter stage 5 with pretty high power to get through it...

Also, why in the world does dying at 0 power as MarisaA only give you 2 power back? It should give you 4 damn it! ZUUUUN!!!

Satori's movements hardly have anything to do with it. It's still the same dodges every time. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how to dodge it once you've already dogded it a few times before. It doesn't matter if Satori is positioned a bit more to the left or right or a bit up or down. It's so easy to compensate for that I never even noticed that she moves randomly if that is actually the case. I say it's reasonable to compare it to Kogasa's midboss card since it's all about precision. You will NEVER fail this due to you not managing to read it because it's the same thing every time.

Not implying that I personally have trouble clearing the non-spell at all, Kogasa's midboss spell is actually tougher like that, but it doesn't make the attacks feel less dumb and pointless.
The way the bullets cross are different depending on whether Satori moves up and down when she fires them. You can't go through the same hole every time unlike something truly static like Nazrin's Pendulum Guard. At least that's my impression. If you can, then please tell me exactly how far next to the enemy marker I should stand to consistently dodge the attack, because that would be a godsend.

Or maybe I'm doing this attack and Kogasa's attack all wrong :V. I read the bullets in Satori's non-spells and microtap through Kogasa's attack, only adjusting for when the bunches of bullets cross. I have no problems with Kogasa's attack because you can tap the same way every time to clear the attack, save for one trivial section, and I have tons of trouble with Satori's attack because I can't seem to read the bullet streams in time to find the right hole and fit through it, especially as Marisa.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 18, 2012, 09:30:36 AM
okay before I say anything further than this: those attempts were actually REALLY good.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24604

this one happened yestrday. what's so cool about it? TIMING MOMIJI OUT IS FOR PUSSIES :V SO I CAPTURED POST-MOMIJI WITH 17 SECONDS LEFT ON THE CLOCK. I proceed to die to PWG in a retarded way. couldn't make a gap large enough for my whole sprite to pas through without touching a bullet. with 2 seconds left on the clock <.< probably my most impressive 1DNB run.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24605

and this one has everything: captured momiji, captued post-momiji (12 seconds though :<) and captured PWG. hell, it has a perfect aya fight for that matter. so what did I die on? the big fairies at the end of the stage, because I was too stupid to kill the first big fairy in time - no, because I was too stupid to not get hit by a bullet I already dodged. I backed into it :/

my 2 closest attempts at winning this. I know I can actually do it, but man, after each of these attempts, my motivation for the day just ran out and I was unable to get past momiji even once :V I dunno if I should try and take the win as soon as possible, or take a break from the stage.
but on the plus side, I found a way to consistently do post-mimiji with 15 seconds left, as long as the first blue wall has a hole to slip through. so it's not as reliable, because of RNG hating.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 18, 2012, 11:51:35 AM
TIMING MOMIJI OUT IS FOR PUSSIES :V

Nice attitude. Keep that up and make sure to kill Momiji off as quickly as possible for extra pleasure.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on October 18, 2012, 12:11:55 PM
I... I went into Satori with full lives. How'd I lose them all? What... just happened? Sigh. Stage 5 just terrifies me so much that I'm reluctant to use bombs against Satori. I can't do anything in stage 5 consistently, so I feel as though I need to enter stage 5 with pretty high power to get through it...

Also, why in the world does dying at 0 power as MarisaA only give you 2 power back? It should give you 4 damn it! ZUUUUN!!!
The way the bullets cross are different depending on whether Satori moves up and down when she fires them. You can't go through the same hole every time unlike something truly static like Nazrin's Pendulum Guard. At least that's my impression. If you can, then please tell me exactly how far next to the enemy marker I should stand to consistently dodge the attack, because that would be a godsend.

Or maybe I'm doing this attack and Kogasa's attack all wrong :V. I read the bullets in Satori's non-spells and microtap through Kogasa's attack, only adjusting for when the bunches of bullets cross. I have no problems with Kogasa's attack because you can tap the same way every time to clear the attack, save for one trivial section, and I have tons of trouble with Satori's attack because I can't seem to read the bullet streams in time to find the right hole and fit through it, especially as Marisa.

Err... yeah, as Marisa you DEFINITELY want to bomb Satori's 2nd non. 

After killing her 1st spell, run up to her and drop 2 point-blank Dolls, that usually does the trick.  If you're MarisaB then 1 point-blank bomb does it too.  And if you're MarisaC... Shields up and good luck!!  :V

But I agree with Zengeku, it's static, and based on her relative position, the only real problem is that her nons are pretty damn clippy, and that holds especially true for her 2nd non when using Marisa shottypes.   :3

MarisaA drops an unfair amount of power when she dies, she can be sorta tricky, but with her all you really want to do is plan your bombs.  I'd consider her the 2nd hardest to 1cc the game with, the hardest being ReimuB, but once you've beaten the game with her, MarisaB and MarisaC should be a catke walk  :)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 18, 2012, 03:38:40 PM
Nice attitude. Keep that up and make sure to kill Momiji off as quickly as possible for extra pleasure.
Momiji's pattern is way more fun than the waterfalls.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 18, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Haha, good joke. Momiji's pattern is just generic micrododging while hoping that she doesn't screw you over. A decently fun attack but it's not more fun than the misdirection you have to do on the post-momiji stuff in my opinion. But of course, that's a subjective thing. I'm just pointing out that my subjective viewpoint is superior to yours.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 18, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
I tried the extra stage in Embodiment of Scarlet Devil like 40 times today. I can get as far as Forbidden Barrage "Counter Clock" before I am inevitably killed. I use Marisa with Master Spark. I dodge stuff at first, powering up until I am above 120, and then after the first three fairies send off those spiraling bullet walls I pick up another power-up to get to full power and clear the screen, and then dodge my way to Patchouli. I bomb all three of Patchouli's spell cards, because dodging them is so difficult. I then dodge the flood of bullets until the last wave, and if I am lucky, I can dodge that one as well. Then I stream through the last waves of enemies. Having picked up both extra lives and having died once, I will reach Flandre with with two extra lives, usually.

I try to dodge Taboo "Cranberry Trap" but I don't think I have done it successfully yet. From there onward, I can do well until Taboo "Maze of Love." I have tried both methods: dodging between the impossibly small spaces between the bullets (I have decided this is just about impossible) and the 'correct' way of doing it, which is going in circles around Flandre to fit between the gaps in the bullet spiral, which... I guess I should work on? Then I gradually lose bombs and lives until Forbidden Barrage "Counter Clock" kills me. :)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 18, 2012, 08:13:01 PM
Learn Royal Flare. Quite challenging until you do it once, then it's a cakewalk.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 18, 2012, 08:28:19 PM
Patchouli's first midboss card killed me every time until I started watching it differently, and now I find it really easy. I used to try to read it as a pattern, watching the streaming lines come down like I would with Princess Undine. But don't do that. Keep your gaze really tight and just dodge as if they're random shots, and it's a lot simpler.
Royal Flare's still a bomb every time for me on wave 2 every time though, I get too nervous with its tiny gaps.

Maze of Love gets me a lot too. I get in the pattern fine the first wave, but on the red wave almost always get hit at about 2 o'clock. Now I just use one bomb around there and go back to center to finish off its health.
Counter Clock is intimidating at first, but it's actually a fairly simple static pattern. The only tricky part is remembering how long the lasers are, but if you just overestimate and go far left/far right/far up, you'll be clear.


Oh, and my lovely failure today... I was one life away from getting a game over on MoF/Hard/Stage 4 practice. I 1cc'd this whole thing before, how the heck...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 18, 2012, 09:02:21 PM
Gave Koishi some other no-bomb tries attempting to perfect. So in my best run, I was perfecting until dying to the last 2 seconds (if not last 1 second) of the second survival's second wave (the third wave is already trivial to me). After that, my next runs sucked. Maybe another day...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 18, 2012, 09:52:19 PM
I wish every Touhou had the lovely Spell Card Practice feature. I will try to dodge Patchouli. :)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 18, 2012, 10:01:08 PM
It's been so long since I played SA Extra, I did a fun run to see if I'd be perfecting it anytime soon.

First death after I zoned out to the final ring fairies. Stupid, but I wasn't exactly going for anything in this run so I'm not bothered.
Second death to Rorschach. Oh well, I'm just out of practice.
4 deaths to Genetics. I think that's enough Koishi for one day.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on October 18, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
1MNB until Shou
Gameover on Vajra

Next run:

NMNB Until Murasa's survival
Gameover on Midboss Nazrin spellcard

Not my day...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 19, 2012, 12:18:15 AM
So... I tried another 30-ish times. I am only a human you guys. ;_; I cannot perform the sustained perfection required to defeat Flandre.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 19, 2012, 01:31:51 AM
Cactu, I don't know how you manage to keep your spirits up in the face of such opposition and I have no idea how you manage to do so well on such a large part of the game and then lose it all on Stage 5 but keep it up mate.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 19, 2012, 01:32:13 AM
Man, I swear every card in UFO is designed so that you'll fail it right before it's over. I got through 3 red waves on LFO and was 1 cm of health away from capturing it but a fucking amulet came from behind. Evil card. Same thing with Devil's Recitation and Greatest Treasure.

Failing Superhuman twice in a row was pretty humbling too.

So... I tried another 30-ish times. I am only a human you guys. ;_; I cannot perform the sustained perfection required to defeat Flandre.

- You're bombing attacks like Cranberry Trap and (I presume) Maze of Love which are memorizable. Even if you aren't having trouble with those particular attacks anymore it's imperative that you go watch a perfect run replay. I can't give specific advice since I've actually never cleared Flandre myself (to be fair, I played for about an hour before moving on to MoF).

- 30 tries is a lot. You're probably getting rather worked up by now, so take a break. You won't make improvements and most importantly you won't play well if you've already put in 6 hours of attempts today. Take a walk or something. You might feel like you have to keep playing to vindicate yourself but seriously, take a walk. And if the Flandre fight is getting you down, when you come back tomorrow focus on some other challenge. Maybe try to clear PCB or IN or MoF on normal.

- At the moment it might feel like failure is inevitable, and considering that you're probably relatively new to Touhou your bullet reading skills won't be so great. The great thing is that as long as you continue to play consistently and you don't just give up on the genre as a whole, you have nowhere to go but up. At some point the things you need help with are hard to describe in words and harder to carry over into actions, and the best you can do is keep failing until that moment comes when you know what you're doing wrong and how to avoid doing it. Really, shmup skills come down to memorization and almost subconscious identification of safe and unsafe zones (e.g. bullet reading). You just have to soldier on against "impossible" odds and you will inevitably get better.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 19, 2012, 02:06:17 AM
Got a good run of SanaeA UFO relatively quick (under 5 hours), threw the run during stage 5, entered last boss with 3/3 and subsequently got hit after a bomb of the second non (shit. I'm gonna have to learn to do this with low-power shots), twice on Magic Butterfly (what the fuck) and wiping out on Magic Milky Way.

I probably qualify for a Master's degree of getting my shit scrambled by Byakuren, so if anyone needs some teachings on how to take a laser to the face, just email me iam@suchascrub.com
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 19, 2012, 02:23:34 AM
30-ish attempts, if all failed at the last second to QED, comes in at 5 hours.  I'm assuming most of those restarted on the stage part, so closer to an hour of tries is what I'd take from "30-ish attempts".

UFO and TD stage 1, please stop killing me.  I'd like to actually try to clear these games.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 19, 2012, 03:20:21 PM
Thank you RNG. :D

gonna go fight Flandre now wheeeeeeeee *zooms off on a broomstick*
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 19, 2012, 03:45:02 PM
--10-ish attempts later...--

*glides back, also on a broomstick*

Cream Soda can survive...

~Patchouli~
-Moon Sign "Silent Selene"

~Flandre~
-Taboo "Cranberry Trap"
-Taboo "L?vatein"
-Taboo "Kagome, Kagome"

~misc.~
all of the rest of the stage, if lucky
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 19, 2012, 06:07:47 PM
30-ish attempts, if all failed at the last second to QED, comes in at 5 hours.  I'm assuming most of those restarted on the stage part, so closer to an hour of tries is what I'd take from "30-ish attempts".

He said he tried 40 times before that if you read the first post he made.

If you really want the king of stage 1 restarting it'd have to be SA. I cannot count the number of times I have failed Kisume's card. Or the number of times I've been hit by a rock while standing by the sine-wave fairies...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 19, 2012, 10:26:50 PM
In another 40 attempts, I have made (wait for it).... no progress. :D An attempt that reaches Flandre and survives to "Counter Clock" (1 out of 20, I would guess) goes something like this:

dodge pattern as memorized -> oh goodness those bullets are getting really tight and I dunno where my hitbox is -> ohgodohgodohgod panicbomb -> rinse & repeat, until all of the bombs are gone -> yayyyy now I don't have to worry about bombs!!! :D dodge dodge dodge dodge --crash-- ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff--calm down Cream Soda it is ok we will do this -_- -> bombbombbombcrash FFFFF no not yet -> bombbombbombcrash (but the bad kind where the yellow thingies fly out of me) FUUUUUUUUUUUUU--

who is the best to use btw? :) I tried all four possibilities and I suspect that either Marisa-B or Reimu-B is the best. Reimu-A is good, until one realizes that her bullets are weak, and that her homing shots will aim at everything *except* Flandre, if there is more than just Flandre on the screen.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 19, 2012, 10:30:41 PM
>SFN: T-6
>Death is to run-of-the-mill red wave.

*raises hands*
*leaves the building*
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on October 19, 2012, 10:40:55 PM
who is the best to use btw? :) I tried all four possibilities and I suspect that either Marisa-B or Reimu-B is the best. Reimu-A is good, until one realizes that her bullets are weak, and that her homing shots will aim at everything *except* Flandre, if there is more than just Flandre on the screen.
I used MarisaA for my first (and only) EoSD extra clear. Highest damage output and she trivializes Royal Flare. If you're more comfortable with Reimu's speed, I'd go with ReimuB.

On topic, I'll vent about VoWG walling me every other second, Super-Ego still being a brick wall (well, at least I nearly got Release of the Id...), my computer being crappy and making my character run into bullets, and myself still refusing to just pick one game at a time to get actual progress.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 20, 2012, 12:22:42 AM
ReimuA is super weak to the extra stage, especially Cranberry Trap, which takes probably 4x as long as with anyone else. However, her bomb is much longer than ReimuB's, which does have its advantages, such as passing time on the timeout card. It can also take out any of Patchy's spells in one shot, where B's can't. Homing also helps with the stage portion, but it's not that bad without it.
Still, I always do my best with needles-Reimu in every game.

Edit: I just tried Royal Flare with MarisaA as suggested, and yeah, it kills that thing, it only takes one dodge with her. My first capture of it, kinda felt like cheating really. Her speed made me lose half the other stuff of course though, too fast for me.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: chirpy13 on October 20, 2012, 05:04:15 AM
Put in my monthly TD credit.  Crashed into one of those spirits at the end of stage 3 while trying to fill my trance gauge.  Died to the death fairies at the end of stage 4 (fair enough I guess).  Died to Seiga 3 times on her easy nons for my game over.  This game is really good at humiliating you by showing you how stupid you can be =/.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on October 20, 2012, 08:08:38 AM
>SFN: T-6
>Death is to run-of-the-mill red wave.

*raises hands*
*leaves the building*
Don't give up, there. It's coming, it's coming. Throw some more runs into it, you'll surely get it soon, given how close you've gotten. (T-3 sucks though)

What's the amount of attempts you've got at it?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 20, 2012, 08:20:45 AM
Perfect up to Superego, then 4 deaths. This was never a problem until I started to get perfect runs that far, now I've died to the first few  full waves three times in a row. :/
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 20, 2012, 08:28:53 AM
Don't give up, there. It's coming, it's coming. Throw some more runs into it, you'll surely get it soon, given how close you've gotten. (T-3 sucks though)

What's the amount of attempts you've got at it?
More of a display of disappointment. Hardly giving up. I'm at 540. Usually fuck up somewhere between T-50 and T-35.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 20, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
This morning saw another 70 attempts. In one instance, I finally *did* get past Counter Clock and get to that one spell card where Flandre disappears and bullets surround the screen. I was exactly one second away from surviving it, as well! Drat. I can survive all three of Patchy's spell cards now, if lucky. I think the survival probabilities, without bombs, are like this at the moment:

first wave of youkai - 95%
red lines of bullets spraying all over the place - 98%
first three fairies that make spirals of blue bullets crisscross - 70%
the giant wave of bullets that immediately follows - 90%
big circle of bullet clipdeathing and walling - 33%

Patchy's first spell card - 65%
Patchy's second spell card - 10%
Patchy's third spell card - 40%

short wave of youkai that stream bullets - 20%
repeated waves of bulletspam - 75%
giant wave of bulletspam following - 45%
streaming the last wave of youkai - 50%

I try to reach Flandre with four lives, so that way I can have one to spare when Maze of Love is over, but I only did that like twice, thus far. I think I am on like 200 attempts at the moment? That is 1% of the time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 20, 2012, 01:25:24 PM
Why are you having trouble with the streaming at the very end? In general, a lot of the stage is memorization. Same for Royal Flare - have you seen replays of it being done?

You don't have to restrict yourself to 4 extra lives before Flandre, that'll only cause a lot of anger and repeats. Bomb the death fairy before Patchouli if you have to.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 20, 2012, 01:37:11 PM
Hmm, maybe I will get used to bombing the death fairy. :) I think I am still getting used to streaming bullets from both sides. Touhou is my first shmup actually. ^_^ I think I *almost* can dodge Royal Flare. Maybe I will have to pay more attention to replays of it. The angles and curves are really tricky. I usually reach Flandre with 3 extra lives but I try to have 4 if possible.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 20, 2012, 01:47:15 PM
I died to midboss-Mystia's card. On consecutive attempts.

Stop. Fucking. Dying on easy stuff Funen1.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 20, 2012, 02:16:45 PM
Rgh. Another one of these days. 8 lives into stage 5 of UFO, 2 lives out. In the end, my reworked stage 5 route for Bad-types was not that effective in practice. Back to the drawing board... >:(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 20, 2012, 05:22:14 PM
I tried another 50 times. :D I still did not beat my record yet. Later, I must try again.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 20, 2012, 07:38:06 PM
Made it to Koishi 4th nonspell NDNB six times.
Made it to Koishi 5th nonspell NDNB zero times.

The hell.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 20, 2012, 10:00:46 PM
Tried Lunatic SA again today. First time I made it to stage 3 without dying like a retard on Parsee. Then I lose 3 lives on Yuugi. More 3 at stage 4. Game over at Orin's spin-thing card, with spare power. It's the third time I get a game over at Orin. My God, why can't I make it through that damn cat? <.<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 20, 2012, 10:11:43 PM
Whoops, I don't think that counts as a fail. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 20, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24662

yet another 1DNB stage 4 of MoF. aya's last non killed me. and to show you how fuckung bullshit that was: the life she lost for my death was enough to end the non. fuck you for moving away in the last second, bitch. and the remaining run was awesome, too! cleared some tight dodged on momiji, captured post-momiji with 16 seconds left and I was being a retarded on storm day and still captured it! PWG RNG was average, I suppose. nothing too horrible.

and if this wasn't enough, here's another.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24663

another 1DNB. the last non again. this time with more HP, but still fucking annoying. everything looked less awesome in here, but it still was going pretty well!

I will call it now: the next 1DNB is going to be with a death against terukuni. also, this will be the run where I start crying. I know it.

and after that, I will, finally, clear it. with everything being optimal and fucking boring. because that's how it works. in the perfect runs the RNG doesn't do shit, it looks boring and you aren't as satisfied as you'd have been with a cool bullshit capture of let's say, momiji and PWG. or post-momiji with something like 16-18 seconds on.

NO, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

god, this is annoying. I easily restarted that stage like 200 times already. am I really not good enough :'<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 20, 2012, 11:50:39 PM
Have I suddenly lost the ability to read Mystia's last two regular cards? Dear God.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on October 21, 2012, 03:09:08 AM
Died at Nightmare of Heiankyou with 8 seconds remaining. I decided to sit at the point of intersection for the lasers during Tic-Tac-Toe
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 21, 2012, 03:45:08 AM
I've lost the ability to do the last cards of Yamame, Parsee, and Yuugi. For some reason I either die or need to bomb each of those. I've only gotten to Satori once in my last 20 attempts at SA :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sungho on October 21, 2012, 03:57:51 AM
Reached Kanako's last spellcard with 3 lives left on Lunatic with ReimuA.
Game Over'd with about 1/6 of Kanako's health left.

This card is just wrong.
How do people time out this card?
How do people beat th10 Lunatic with Marisa's bigger hitbox?
Why do I lose 30000 Faith points when I time out a survival spellcard?
Why does the replay almost always desync on Stage 4?
Since when did Lunatic become the default when no difficulty is mentioned?

There are so many questions that I can't answer right now.
At least the spellcard is less wrong than th12 MarisaB's bomb invincibility time.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 04:01:22 AM
How do people time out this card?
How do people beat th10 Lunatic with Marisa's bigger hitbox?
Why do I lose 30000 Faith points when I time out a survival spellcard?
Why does the replay almost always desync on Stage 4?
Since when did Lunatic become the default when no difficulty is mentioned?
Practice.  After a certain point the mindset just clicks and it becomes much easier.
Because we're awesome.
Because ZUNcoding.
See above.  Watch through from Stage 3 to keep it from desyncing.
Because the average difficulty played by most regulars here is lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on October 21, 2012, 06:21:54 AM
Wow. God damn it me. In my actual run, I manage to lose 4 lives on stage 4. Once in the stage, and three times on Satori. Now in my last two practice runs of the stage, I've literally NM2B stage 4 twice in a row, with bombs to midboss Orin and Mercury Poison. What. The. Hell. Why can't I do this well during my actual run?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 21, 2012, 10:32:50 AM
Because we're awesome.

Dem X mashing skills.

You don't have to be awesome to clear MoF with any shot.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 11:21:17 AM
Dem X mashing skills.
Who says I'm mashing X, I'm actually dodging a lot of stuff when I play  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 21, 2012, 12:13:29 PM
What the hell is WRONG with me? I get through Shou with 4 extra lives, then mess up the fucking easiest stage in the game completely. Why is it that I can 0-2M the whole stage 6, including the boss in practice mode with minimal effort, yet when I'm on a real run get to her with 0-2 lives? FUCK!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 21, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
I have reached Flandre's last spell card exactly twice. I have made more than 400 attempts but I have kind of lost count now. I tried for 3 whole hours. I feel frustrated. >.> If only that fairy of spiraling clipdeath did not precede Patchouli. If only Maze of Death were not... a guaranteed death, every single time. :) If only the stage did not take 11 minutes to complete. If only just one more life were attainable, just one!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 21, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
don't be afraid to bomb the fairy before patchouli. I think someone told you before. as for maze of love: 1 well timed bomb is enough to live through it. at least it was for me when I had trouble clearing it. it's a short lived card when you go for micro-dodging the rings. dodge like 2 rings, bomb and clear the card (applies if you're play everything but ReimuA. also, micrododging is not recommended with marisa :v)
but yeah, it's annoying to have to go through a long stage just to get a shot at a spell/boss. I know that feel.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 21, 2012, 04:30:07 PM
Ok I guess I will bomb that fairy. :) I can survive Patchouli without any bombs, but her last card gives me trouble so I usually bomb it, and I get killed by either of the other two cards about 1/4 of the time. Royal Flare is not so bad now that I learned how to dodge it. :D It does the same thing every time!

Cranberry Trap kills me more often than not. I have a method that I try to use but it is just so easy to get confused with all the bullets onscreen and panic. Everything else is fine (relatively speaking) until Maze of Death, which is... guaranteed to kill me, more or less. After that, I know how to avoid everything to the end; the problem is keeping a clear enough mind to not panic and forget what to do.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 21, 2012, 04:54:44 PM
I don't know if you noticed while playing but cranberry trap is actually super easy if you know.

the pink bullets always go to the middle of the screen, so you can dodge them the same every time. the blue bullets go to your current position, so just...move up. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23884 download and watch for demonstration of how to never fail it again. also watch for demonstration of what I mean when I say microtap maze of love :v here it's without the bomb, but you can bomb is after the 2nd ring.

also, don't do what I did on the survival spell. I was lucky and would have probably been killed in the next 99 runs had I done that. as for Q.E.D: don't be afraid to prematurely bomb it. a lot. my average bomb usage on it was 3 before I got confident enough to try the stage without them. using 3 bombs is better than dying and losing a run on it.

as lastly: don't be angry that it's taking a while. my first extra clear was MONTHS after I cleared the games. all of them. koishi alone took 3 months. as you play, you'll improve and when you watch an old replay you'll be like "how the fuck did I die on that" I know, it happened to me :v many times.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 21, 2012, 05:13:42 PM
About Maze of Love, it kinda has a different ideal position for rotating with Reimu and Marisa. I can only dodge with Reimu, and it was just recently that I found out how to dodge it properly without the risky-as-hell micrododging. :V

And Cranberry Trap pretty much only varies because of Flan's random movement. Otherwise the pattern is constant, so some memorization helps. :)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 21, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
Oh Ichirin, your boss nonspells are some of the best in the series. Why must your midboss nonspell be so terrible?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 05:31:05 PM
Oh Ichirin, your boss nonspells are some of the best in the series.
1st one is stupid, 2nd one is trivial, 3rd one is ok I guess.  Are we even playing the same game?

Why must your midboss nonspell be so terrible?
I guess we are.  Insert obligatory UFO Stage 3 rant here
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 21, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
1st one is stupid, 2nd one is trivial, 3rd one is ok I guess.  Are we even playing the same game?
They might be easy, but I still find them fun. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 21, 2012, 05:58:48 PM
Why must your midboss nonspell be so terrible?
What's wrong with it? It's fairly easy to dodge and makes a lot of delicious 'tk tk' graze noise.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 21, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
1st one is stupid

How? I don't get it.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 06:12:57 PM
How? I don't get it.
Because the lasers come way too fast.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 21, 2012, 06:19:27 PM
you don't read fast enough. her non-spells haven't killed me since forever. that includes the first. (mid-boss non aside :V)

I wouldn't have thought there was someone weaker to lasers than me. but I found him :v and he has no name! HA! SEE WHAT I DID THERE??  :colonveeplusalpha:

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
I've always been bad at reading lasers (except Shou's for some reason)

I usually end up backing down into where the lasers go due to reading the gap as the cross-point!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 21, 2012, 08:01:12 PM
Because the lasers come way too fast.

Oh yeah I see it know, I guess the attack is pretty stupid when you put it like that. I'd personally say that the lasers move pretty slowly but apparently not. If the speed of the lasers is a reason for the attack being stupid then i suppose Eternal Meek would be even stupider or what?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 08:07:28 PM
I have a strange inability to read straight lasers for the most part, especially if they criss-cross at all.

Shou's I mis-read and in misreading the curve I go where I think it won't go which is where it won't go because it stops turning too soon or too late.
Ichirin is the hardest boss in UFO for me.

(On a related note Brilliant Dragon Bullet is hell due to this)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: LadyScarlet on October 21, 2012, 08:29:48 PM
Just had my best EoSD Stage 4 run. Lost my last life on Princess Undine.  :getdown:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 21, 2012, 09:04:47 PM
IHNN, all I can say is go practice against those lasers right now. If you hate cards like BDB for a dumb reason like that, you're missing out. If you want to force yourself to improve, you could always run Shou at 75fps. (That kind of speed will force you to dodge on reflex instead of trying to lazily outguess their route and die.)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 21, 2012, 09:24:19 PM
Ihavenoname, you forgot the part about explaining why the attack is stupid just because you are bad at it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
IHNN, all I can say is go practice against those lasers right now. If you hate cards like BDB for a dumb reason like that, you're missing out. If you want to force yourself to improve, you could always run Shou at 75fps. (That kind of speed will force you to dodge on reflex instead of trying to lazily outguess their route and die.)
I also hate BDB for the random spam that always seems to block my path-when I don't get speared by lasers and die.
Also, I'm already dodging on reflex at 60 FPS.  I'm going to make this perfectly clear.  I cannot read lasers that are not forecast in advance or moving straight down
Ihavenoname, you forgot the part about explaining why the attack is stupid just because you are bad at it.
It's stupid because you don't have enough time to read the lasers.
 :dealwithit:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 21, 2012, 10:12:23 PM
You honestly can't say stuff like "you don't have enough time" because it's not absolute - I can consistently do the first nonspell, so you can do it too. I actually find the second nonspell consistently more manageable because the first can still dick you over if she's close and you get unlucky with the red snake laser.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
The nonspell I'm talking about is Ichirin's first.

Shou's are fine.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on October 21, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
What he said is still true though. You can't say the attack is dumb because it's too fast. That's exactly the same as saying it's dumb because you aren't good enough.
I cannot read lasers that are not forecast in advance or moving straight down
The fact that they didn't kill you instantly means they were forecast in advance. And what kind of argument is that anyway? It's still just saying "I'm not good enough, therefore it's impossible."

And if you -cannot- read diagonal lasers, then just what makes Shou's fine? It's exactly the same concept, except Shou's aren't static.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 21, 2012, 10:55:59 PM
Because Shou's are the exception.  I can dodge those most of the time for some reason.
by "forecast in advance" I mean like in Keine's last spell (her actual last spell).
I cannot read the ones in her last spell before her last spell.

I can say I am of the opinion that the attack is stupid or dumb.  You're perfectly welcome to disagree of course.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cream Soda on October 21, 2012, 11:01:40 PM
Sakurei you should be a boss in Touhou. :3
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 21, 2012, 11:04:30 PM
I can say I am of the opinion that the attack is stupid or dumb.  You're perfectly welcome to disagree of course.

Your opinion is stupid or dumb. But don't worry about it. I've got plenty of those too so welcome in the club.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 22, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3gWO0.png)

One half second away from a capture

WHY
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 22, 2012, 02:04:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3gWO0.png)

One half second away from a capture

WHY
It took me 60 attempts to get my first capture on it. I congratulate you for getting that good within 5 tries.
It's stupid because you don't have enough time to read the lasers.
If I had to use that argument against one of her nonspells, I'd use it against the midboss nonspell instead of her first one. She can be a bit of an asshole and move in erratic ways during her first one but the lasers have massive gaps there so it's okay.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Naut on October 22, 2012, 02:12:50 AM
I have a strange inability to read straight lasers for the most part, especially if they criss-cross at all.

Here, avoid them all together. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEkDF7lWKY)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 22, 2012, 02:39:24 AM
Haha, nice one Naut.

Yeah just learn that technique then IHNN. Will even improve your score down the line  :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 22, 2012, 02:48:45 AM
Haha, nice one Naut.

Yeah just learn that technique then IHNN. Will even improve your score down the line  :V
But that's even harder  :qq:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on October 22, 2012, 03:47:15 AM
Ok, I just got a game over on SA stage 4 with Marisa-A.... IN PRACTICE MODE. Oh god, how do I suck so bad with that shot type, and why does Satori move too much on her second-last card.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 22, 2012, 09:16:35 AM
Sakurei you should be a boss in Touhou. :3

I do not even know what that's supposed to mean. :V because of the Flandre run? eh, many people have done this before. my run's actually nothing special, even if it looks pretty cool :'D

and I yeah, learn the bullshit supergrazing thing, or just...learnt o read them. I dunno, you don't have too many possibilities, IHNN. if you ever want to get past ichirin without losing two lives, you gotta do it :'D
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Nindella on October 22, 2012, 04:19:57 PM
Ok, I just got a game over on SA stage 4 with Marisa-A.... IN PRACTICE MODE. Oh god, how do I suck so bad with that shot type, and why does Satori move too much on her second-last card.

Yeah, that 2nd to last is a bit annoying, you've just gotta remember to stream slowly, restream well in advance, and know that the dolls aim for you when they come in contact with the sides of the walls.  Try to ignore actually killing satori as that might screw you up, at least, that's what I do.  You'll probably come really close to timing it out unless you have a decent amount of power and make sure to unfocus when she stops above you etc.  (and I mean really close, if you focus  and just stream+restream the spell you can usually cap it within the last 5 or so seconds, and that's with something like 3 or 4 power.).

Edit: To add to what I said earlier, check out some WR replays, they use an awesome technique to do alot more damage and cap the spell fast, although I've never bothered to learn it myself, it's not that hard a technique to learn.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on October 22, 2012, 09:28:37 PM
Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24709)

Flandre Double KO, Laevateinn fuckup.

This was during a no-bombs EoSD Extra clear. I was literally like twenty frames if not less from the bullets having disappeared. FUCK.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on October 22, 2012, 09:37:11 PM
i wont lie if i mess up aya's final MoF card in normal i will scream
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on October 22, 2012, 09:46:56 PM
i wont lie if i mess up aya's final MoF card in normal i will scream

It's MoF. It's Normal. You have bombs out the ass. Please use them. I'm not trying to sound condescending at all when I say this: You are able to bomb every spell in the game and clear.

If it's the "I'm trying to capture this specific card", then please disregard what I just said.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 22, 2012, 11:20:44 PM
I don't know if you noticed while playing but cranberry trap is actually super easy if you know.

the pink bullets always go to the middle of the screen, so you can dodge them the same every time. the blue bullets go to your current position, so just...move up. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23884 download and watch for demonstration of how to never fail it again. also watch for demonstration of what I mean when I say microtap maze of love :v here it's without the bomb, but you can bomb is after the 2nd ring.

Watching this replay, I was reminded of that "how to draw an owl" picture (http://i.imgur.com/JCsTU.jpg). It inspired me to have another run of it myself, thinking "Wow, that looked so easy, I surely will have no trouble now!" But just barely made it by, ending at 0/0 like every other time I've cleared it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on October 22, 2012, 11:55:48 PM
Well crap. I think I've figured out what my problem is for Virtue of Wind God.

It's endurance.

I just had a run where I lasted half of the card before my first death. Number of misses at the end? Five.

This is not an anomaly among my runs.

People who have timed out this thing, how do you keep your focus for the full length of the card? I could do it within the week, if I could continually dodge as good as I typically do during the first minute or so.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 23, 2012, 01:48:59 AM
People who have timed out this thing, how do you keep your focus for the full length of the card? I could do it within the week, if I could continually dodge as good as I typically do during the first minute or so.

I usually don't manage to maintain my focus either. It's intense dodging for 2 and a half minute so losing many attempts simply to the length of the attack is not abnormal.

VoWG is a card that get's considerably more manageable the more you play against it as patterns start to repeat themselves and you simply just recognize them and act accordingly. It wasn't as much raw skill as it was familiarity with the pattern that got me my timeout.

As you keep dodging the attack, it becomes harder to concentrate on the dodging and you'll be more likely to mistakes. The solution to this is simply being good enough at the card to handle what it can do despite your lowered ability to concentrate or nervousity.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on October 23, 2012, 02:54:37 AM
My experience was that falling into a kind of trance helped a lot. I didn't want my mentality to change as the attack progressed, and I didn't want to dwell on the previous waves to any extent whatsoever. In other words, I tried to "think" as little as possible. Forget there was a timer, forget I had some kind of goal, and just sort of space out, dodging one wave at a time. I didn't think about how long I'd been doing it, or how much longer it was going to last. I just did it.

That was my way of avoiding nervousness or whatever, at least. You'd maybe have your own method, I guess. It's ultimately like Zengeku said really. It lasts a really long time, and you've just got to resist it. Every bit of familiarity helps.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 23, 2012, 03:12:58 AM
The way I do it is just focus focus focus focus focus.  It got me almost 2 minutes into the card.  I just blocked out everything but the game, thought about nothing but the game and just dodged.  I ended up dying really stupidly, but getting that far was a huge confidence booster (especially when my most common fail point is the wave exactly 1 minute in)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 23, 2012, 03:17:43 AM
I'm similar to Zengeku in this regard. My main approach was to become familiar with all the different combinations of walls I'm likely to face, and how to deal with them. Quite like learning static attacks in a way, though VoWG is obviously not. But even when I was routinely getting farther into the attack without dying, I could never completely curtail my nervousness. In the run where I did pull it off, I let some of that nervousness get to me, leading to an ill-advised dodge way to the left of where I should have gone. I survived, trusting that I could keep at least some focus, but I certainly didn't feel calm the rest of the way. It was all that other training that helped me deal with that, as even nervousness wouldn't make me forget the ways I handled certain wall combinations.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 23, 2012, 03:53:53 PM
Tried MoF lunatic no bombs again.
Decided not to restart.
Died to Hina's first spell because ninja bullet.
Died to midboss Nitori because the RNG was trolling (worst I'd seen, ever, and I almost captured anyway)
Died to Kappa's Illusory Waterfall because...again, worst RNG I'd seen.
Died to Cephalic Plate for the same reason.
Died to Momiji because she moved in the worst possible direction every wave forcing unfocused dodges away from the spirals.
Died to the 3 fairies near the end of the stage because I didn't kill the one on the right (nearly survived)
Game Over to the crows at the end because they had the worst RNG I'd ever seen on them.

At least I got the crappy RNG out of the way on a likely failed run, but I would have liked to have reached Aya.  Or, you know, Stage 6 even.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 23, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
My first credit as Sanae B made it to Byakuren with 1 spare life and 2 bombs despite dumb errors in stage 4. That's enough if I do everything perfectly (perhaps, considering the Sanae Shotgun, I could even capture LFO!) So what do I do? Why, of course, I die to the opener. Yes, the one with the bubbles that translates to move left and right.

I don't know how.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sungho on October 24, 2012, 04:08:11 AM
What does LFO supposed to mean?

By the way, I died with 4.00 power on Kanako's first card, and game over'd on less than 15% of Virtue of Wind God.
Those clipdeaths.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 24, 2012, 04:12:16 AM
What does LFO supposed to mean?
LFO stands for Legendary Flying Object (it's Saucer in-game IIRC), which is Byakuren's final card on hard and lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Byaaakuren on October 24, 2012, 08:49:16 AM
I have no idea how to use Reimu in UFO
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 24, 2012, 11:22:46 AM
I have no idea how to use Reimu in UFO

You use her like (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzfJMaPTNpo&feature=plcp) this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i6G89SfLtk&feature=plcp). :V

EDIT: I WAS SO FREAKING CLOSE! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24747) :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 24, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
Watching this replay, I was reminded of that "how to draw an owl" picture (http://i.imgur.com/JCsTU.jpg). It inspired me to have another run of it myself, thinking "Wow, that looked so easy, I surely will have no trouble now!" But just barely made it by, ending at 0/0 like every other time I've cleared it.

does it feel like that? sorry! but most of what you're seeing in that replay is extreme practice! I have cleared Flandre over 50 times by now and played the stage well above 200 times. so it's not something that came out of nowhere =)

also have something to contribute...

I had a 1DNB stage 4 in UFO.

> I died to dipper creeping close. WELL YEAH. I captured everything hard and die to the survival. GENIUS. But yeah, I can do that =)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on October 24, 2012, 04:31:16 PM
Somewhat good ReimuA score and Cherry on entering Yuyuko (https://twitter.com/ILikeVacuuums/status/261142084621324288/photo/1/large)

...

After which I died to third non, timed the same non out and broke a border to reflowering. (http://i.imgur.com/lJabH.png)

Gah.

-

I'm too shit to calculate any optimal scores, but I'll take from the two lost borders ~~15M, Spell bonus ~~10M and bombs 20M, leading into 45M. Maybe it wouldn't have been enough to push me beyond 1,5b anyway. Whatever, I'm still really depressed about this. But, let's not give up but add another 10 hours a day into it. Done for today.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Reiko on October 24, 2012, 07:14:34 PM
MoF Hard, random stage 6 practice.
Target : VoWG

Carelessly bombed my way to the last card as usual (spell practice please).
Dodged nearly all of the spellcard, then got one stupid death at the very end (less than 5 seconds remaining). Not even a wall or a misread, just bad dexterity, like ~80% of my deaths...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on October 24, 2012, 07:22:52 PM
Another UFO LNBNUFO run.
Deaths: Ichirin's last card, Nazrin midboss spell, Shou's 1st spell, Shou's last spell, Byakuren's 1st spell and her 3rd non.

Ichirin's last card death was me misreading the lasers, Nazrin midboss spell was a bit meh, ran straight into a bullet for some reason, thinking I would make it through. Shou's 1st spell was a bit tough, so no biggie there. Shou's last card... I tried going through two glowy bullets and ran into one of them... I hesitated. Byakuren's first was just shitty luck and barely surviving a wave and then dying to bad controls, last death on Byakuren's 3rd non was kinda silly, I just didn't move and I got hit.

My best run since getting to LFS.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on October 24, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
EDIT: I WAS SO FREAKING CLOSE! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24747) :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

>Is able to capture LFS with one power as Needle Reimu
>Can't clear TD Extra

Given, I can't do either too efficiently but still, that"s pretty odd. Is it the issue of Resource Management rather than Dodging Ability?
Also please, not so many frowning faces in a row, it looks really bad imo
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on October 24, 2012, 09:20:30 PM
I'd say it's probably consistency.  LFS at 1 power is what, 60-70 seconds?  TD extra is 10-11 minutes.  So even though you get more mistakes, they're over a longer period (besides, they can both be grinded out, but an LFS attempt takes less time)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 24, 2012, 09:29:59 PM
does it feel like that? sorry! but most of what you're seeing in that replay is extreme practice! I have cleared Flandre over 50 times by now and played the stage well above 200 times. so it's not something that came out of nowhere =)

Not your fault for being awesome, I'm sure my level of ability would look the same way to some other people - it's just a bit daunting how far I have left to go in skill.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on October 24, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
The better one gets, the more does one have to learn. Such is the world of optimisation, beautiful, but relentless.

Gifted and wise are those who can admit how little do they know.

-

And this, you must view as a matter of improvement. It is hardly any use comparing yourself to someone who has played stg's much more than you have yourself - I learned this just recently myself - As time passes, you'll get better, or faster, or more knowledged on shmups. You'll hardly ever be done, however, since new challenges will arise as you improve.

And the journey on becoming better and learning new stuff, now that is something great and worth the trouble! So it's like a good run - you might get a good and desireable outcome, but in the end, what you experienced during the run was more important and meaningful.

A long road to go can either be a good road or a bad road. That is up to you to decide which will it be.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on October 25, 2012, 12:18:55 AM
Wow, I am really bad at Gold Detector. Yeah, I know it's static. I just tend to ram into Nazrin while unfocused :V

And the one time I made it to Murasa today, one of the anchors from her first card retracted right into me. I pretty much quit in disgust after that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 25, 2012, 12:45:27 AM
Holy crap that's like the third time in a row I died to boss-Mystia's first card. What gives.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 25, 2012, 02:52:44 AM
Opening of 4th stage, Nueball, Murasa's first and last spells, Nazrin's nonspell. That's enough for this month.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Thornytowers on October 25, 2012, 03:57:01 AM
So I made it to Patchouli's stage in EOSD and my nose was itching something fierce. So, I scratched it. Immediately enemies started coming onto the screen, so i placed my hand back on the keyboard without looking, however, I didn't realize that my bullet finger was on the bomb key. I accidentally set off my second to last bomb. After a few seconds I calmed down from the rage, then I DID IT AGAIN! With no bombs left I died when Patchouli released "Agni Shine High Level".  :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 25, 2012, 10:28:48 PM
Let's be weird here.

I just timed out Sanae's opener. Now I'm annoyed that it didn't look cool enough and feel obligated to go do another timeout where I make sure to wall myself on purpose. Maybe I can accomplish this by restricting myself to the bottom of the screen.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 26, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
ATTN: Eirin Yagokoro

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_653_4FsTEfc/TQEhN_9agoI/AAAAAAAABVk/YcIZ66fm8co/s400/die_in_a_fire.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Esper on October 26, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
Video showing situation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIVK-FmSXT0&feature=youtu.be)

Fuck Flandre. I hate her. She teases me with my first capture of AtWTBN and then Double KOs me with a failed QED capture attempt by two or three frames. Bull fucking shit.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on October 27, 2012, 03:49:33 AM
I can not for the life of me do well in stage 4 of UFO on normal. There is just waaaaaay too much shit on the screen. I'll go in with 4-5 lives and be lucky if I come out with one. The 40 second survival card at the very end doesn't help matters.

Also lasers.  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 27, 2012, 10:44:47 AM
>Times out Apollo 13

> Forgets to save the replay
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: ふねん1 on October 27, 2012, 01:09:50 PM
So I finally make it past Satori on one life again, only to die while streaming the wisps right before midboss-Orin.

What the fuck. I never die there. And of all times to suddenly break that trend.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on October 27, 2012, 07:23:25 PM
GFW extra is the bane of my existence. I'm lucky to get to Marisa with any Motivation. Doesn't help that it can lag my computer like a bitch.  :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on October 27, 2012, 11:19:18 PM
>MariB Byakuren @ 5 lives & 4 bombs
>miss twice on Magic Butterfly
Way to go, Cor-faggot. Go play house with the kiddies, this is clearly not meant for you.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 27, 2012, 11:33:11 PM
because yesterday was crazy awesome, I decided to give UFO lunatic a shot.

> game over'd in stage 2. didn't even make it to kogasa.

oh god, why.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on October 28, 2012, 01:13:35 AM
-doing an SA extra run-
-does amazing at EX Sanae capturing all her cards-
-gets to Koishi with all lives in tact-
-proceeds to fail hard during card 3 and loses two lives-
-loses a life during card 5 when I had 4 bombs ready-
-loses a life during non-spell between card 5 and 6-
-doesn't even make it 6 seconds into card 6-
That run would have been amazing if I didn't do so bad during the third card. Stupid snowball effect.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Elysia on October 28, 2012, 03:28:01 AM
>goes for a no-pictures timeout in Shoot the Bullet

>card lasts 140 seconds

>dies at the 12 second mark
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 28, 2012, 09:42:44 AM
>goes for a no-pictures timeout in Shoot the Bullet

>card lasts 140 seconds

>dies at the 12 second mark

Ouch, that happening is big time, at least you don't have to go though a really long and boring stage for 1 crack at that card.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on October 28, 2012, 12:22:49 PM
AGHHH Another perfect stage 5 of UFO lunatic failed on Complete Clarification.
>_<
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 28, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
I feel your pain Cactu.

That attack is probably Shou's easiest imo (Aura of Light is probably easier but it makes me more uncomfortable) so it must really suck to fail at that. Keep going though. You got the spirit at least.  :D
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 28, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
Let's try SA extra, haven't done this in a while.

> Doesn't even make it past Sanae in a countless number of attempts due to rage quit reasons.

Where did my ability do the stage go?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 28, 2012, 03:50:00 PM
I just pulled off a completely flawless run of Nue all the way up to her timeout spell - that's way beyond my regular skill level, to be clear here, and included my first ever caps of Blue and Rainbow - then died THREE times to it, leaving me at 1 power for the final, where I gameover'd an instant before she blew up. Curses were uttered.

I blame Marisa's shiny lasers. They're amazing for cutting through UFOs, but I couldn't see right in front of me which dots were moving which way. Yeah, I know I don't need to be firing there (and I guess I shouldn't have been), but if my finger's not on the Z I get all screwed up and hit Z instead of X should I need to bomb... so I always keep it pressed anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on October 28, 2012, 04:56:25 PM
if you can manage nue to that extent, you're not far away from the clear. (which is what I assume you want) so don't let that discourage you. there isn't a trick for grudge bow and all you need is get used to the survival's movement and then you're good on both. good luck.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 28, 2012, 09:54:54 PM
Well, it would have been my 2nd clear of it (though far better than the first)... what I really want is better consistency. It's been a good dozen+ tries since my first clear without coming even remotely close again, except this time. I know, it's all a matter of practice. Just frustrating to have it feel like luck when I do well - I basically don't feel any more confident at the stage than I did a week ago, despite this and the first clear. They seem more like flukes.

It's the same thing with Koishi too, I finally cleared her after a ton of tries the other week, but haven't been able to do it ever again. Whereas back when I was learning extras for 7, 8, 10, I got better at them slowly over time, and once I got them, I got them, never to game over again.

Practice, yeah, I'll get there I guess!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on October 28, 2012, 11:34:38 PM
Another fail TD extra run. On the bright side, I got to the final spell card (which is the best I've ever done). Now to fail at it a hundred times in Spell Practice.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 29, 2012, 01:32:59 AM
LFS record today: 3/15
Devil's Recitation record today: 2/15

Some might take this as a LFS victory, but it's a Devil's Recitation failure to me. :/
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on October 29, 2012, 04:53:48 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24892

Failing extra perfects in the last five seconds are best extra perfect fails.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on October 29, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
Ouch nintendonut888. I was lucky enough to capture the last spellcard on my first try when I was going for NMNBNUFO. However I got to the survival like ten times and failed it, so I guess it makes up for it.
You can do it, good luck!
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on October 29, 2012, 08:25:36 PM
>%500+ motivation @ Marisa start.
>Game Over at Big Crunch.

HULK SMAAAAAAASH
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: nintendonut888 on October 29, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
Ouch nintendonut888. I was lucky enough to capture the last spellcard on my first try when I was going for NMNBNUFO. However I got to the survival like ten times and failed it, so I guess it makes up for it.
You can do it, good luck!

Oh, I'm not really interested in doing it. I just thought it was interesting, because I had never perfect cleared the stage like that before while getting so far with Nue. I've already perfected Nue, so it's not like I was broken over it or anything. :P Really, I just thought it was kinda funny. Thanks for the encouragement regardless.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on October 29, 2012, 09:32:22 PM
Got effortless timeouts of Reisen's 2nd non, Eirin's midboss non, Eirin's 1st and 4th boss non and all of Kaguya's nons. Pretty easy stuff. Got pretty thoroughly trashed by the two final bosses spellcards though.

I guess that's expected when an entire shmups difficulty is saved for the final stage. Really pissed off about my Eirin performance. It was worthless. Gah, whatever. I got some timeouts, i'm supposed to be happy. Will get revenge later. At least Eirin is a worthwhile boss.

Maybe I should try to NMNB her one day. I'm sure that would give me the illusion of having skill at these games for a brief while. That illusion feels good.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on October 30, 2012, 01:51:06 AM
Nirvana's Cloudy Way in Purple.

That is all.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Star King on October 30, 2012, 07:25:19 PM
*~20 tries of EoSD Lunatic Stage 6 Pacifist*
*never gets past Young Demon Lord*

Oh.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 30, 2012, 08:37:01 PM
In need for perfectly functional savestates for Touhou here, because playing through an entire stage for 1 attack is the most annoying thing ever.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on October 30, 2012, 09:20:32 PM
Okay, I just played SA and died to Orin THRICE, and used my bombs TWICE.
Then I made it to Okuu for the first time ever and made it to her final spell (then gameover'd :qq:).
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/wtf_4.gif)
Also off-topic question but do I hotlink gifs or save them to my computer and upload them as an attachment?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on October 30, 2012, 10:42:03 PM
This board won't play gifs uploaded directly, in my experience. Hotlinking is bad for whoever's hosting the image though, unless they're specifically set up for image sharing. So in general, save it and upload it to an image host, like imgur.com, then link that.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on October 30, 2012, 11:07:28 PM
Gets past Orin with ReimuB with no lives to spare, also note that I started that stage with four lives (damn you Orin). Dies on stage 6 before reaching midboss Orin. -sigh-
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on October 30, 2012, 11:49:42 PM
MS Hard, the best run I've had so far. Somehow managed to make it through Shinki's Devil's Recitation with no bombs or lives to fall back on-- and then somehow ended up dying to a stupid white dot bullet in her easy final barrage. My rage will not subside until I defeat her.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Seppo Hovi on October 31, 2012, 04:20:52 PM
Clock's over 20,000 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24922).

I need a beer. Or, fuck beer. I need some absinte.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on October 31, 2012, 05:12:17 PM
Clock's over 20,000 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=24922).

I need a beer. Or, fuck beer. I need some absinte.

Aww, that's horrible! Try again later.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on November 01, 2012, 12:11:51 AM
....

everything I played today was just plain horrible. I didn't do anything good. failed easy spells, failed easy stage potions. failed everything. stopping until I have slept.fuck this shit :V
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: RNG on November 01, 2012, 03:22:44 AM
Well, everything in Ten Desires, really, but mostly Kyouko's midboss spell. I don't know what the fuck.

Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Goldom on November 01, 2012, 04:20:06 AM
What the hellllllll

[attach=1]

That's me NOT clearing Ex13 with the end dialogue already on-screen.

However, the good news is that that would have been my 2nd clear of it, because I already did it with Reimu an hour ago~  :3
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on November 01, 2012, 11:41:54 AM
I pull a perfec ichirin fight out of my ass, only to lose 5 lives in stage 4. /genius.

that was probably the worst stage 4 I had ever since I started perfecting it. I don't even know how that was possible. stupid deaths everywhere.

> I game overe'd on the first bullet in stage 5.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on November 01, 2012, 09:52:43 PM
GFW. The goddamn giant flashlight spell at 90fps.

It's like my level of BAD with that spell is growing exponentially.

Gonna have to find a relatively safe strategy that wastes only one bomb. (doing it with no bombs will HAVE to be a fluke)
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 01, 2012, 10:55:31 PM
I pull a perfec ichirin fight out of my ass, only to lose 5 lives in stage 4. /genius.
That's...pretty much happened to me today as well. I had a pretty good run on Ichirin, only to lose all my lives on stage 4 and die right before Shou.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Wriggle on November 02, 2012, 05:05:12 AM
How the fuck did I die to Lavaeteinn...? Also, in this same run, ONCE AGAIN I failed to capture QED because I died right when she was exploding. I know this is kinda common, but will I never capture that crap?  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: cactu on November 04, 2012, 07:14:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Hlk0I.png)
NOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Chuckolator on November 04, 2012, 07:32:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Hlk0I.png)
NOOOOOOOOOO
yep, that's devil's recitation alright
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zengeku on November 04, 2012, 04:07:44 PM
Fuck myself and my pathetic non-existant dodging capabilities. Just finished 5 Byakuren runs and they were all beyond awful. I can't fucking do anything here. It's humiliating and dreadful. Fucking Superhuman. Only one capture. Fucking trash. How can I be this bad? Why can't I capture LFS? I even screwed up the 2nd non-spell on two occasions.

 :(

Being a terrible player is just so not fun. I don't care if I'm better than others, If I can't do better than this shit here against Byakuren then that means I'm worthless garbage. I know I shouldn't take this shit so seriously but being an unemployed young guy without school I have pretty much no other things to gauge myself with so if STG's are going bad it really hurts.

It really helps to write about these kind of things. Thank goodness for this thread.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Tsym on November 04, 2012, 05:57:45 PM
Well got back from a week long vacation with no computer use/internet access, and I decided to jump straight back into my MarisaB SA Lunatic attempt. Over 3 runs, I managed to die to everything of Yamame's once, Parsee's opener and first card twice, managed to somehow completely mess up Yuugi's final non-spell, and finally crash into a stationary bullet in Yuugi's last card. Glad to see nothing's changed.

At the same time, I managed to capture Ooe twice, NM2B stage 4's stage portion, NOT clip Satori's opener, read Yuugi's midboss card (and I now feel stupid for needing to memorize safe spots for it. It's piss easy), and I managed to die a grand total of 0 times on the stage portion of stage 1 over the course of 3 runs which, let me tell you, is a feat in and of itself. Glad to see nothing's changed in my consistency either.

Also, Princess Undine is still a really stupid and dumb and terrible spell card. Glad to see that hasn't changed.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Bang Jan on November 04, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
Last.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on November 04, 2012, 07:06:22 PM
Last.
Nope.  You have failed at being last.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on November 05, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
NO ME NEXT YOU GUYS PROMISED ME
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Sakurei on November 05, 2012, 01:52:31 PM
...not really, no.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: fondue on November 05, 2012, 01:53:43 PM
Last.
You've had your turn. :V
Bweeeeeeeh. too late...
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 05, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
Everyone fails at being last.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Cor on November 05, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
The hell does it matter, anyway?
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Yatakarasu on November 05, 2012, 07:20:01 PM
1cc UFO attempt:
Got to Byakuren with 4 spare lives (normal btw). Proceeds to die to first spell. Die twice to second spell. Then game over to non-spell. :fail:
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: BT on November 05, 2012, 07:47:14 PM
gdi

I was fooled

lock this por favor
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Zil on November 05, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
They just lock automatically, if I'm not mistaken, though it can take some time. That's also why there isn't much point in rushing to make a new thread before the first one locks. If the old one is still usable then I don't see why it can't be used just because it has 1,000 posts.

The squabbling over who gets to make the new thread never fails to amuse me though.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: I have no name on November 05, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
It's not auto-locked as soon as a mod notices that it has 1000 posts they lock it.
Title: Re: Touhou YOU FAILED THINGS Thread 14
Post by: Naut on November 06, 2012, 07:55:11 AM
Please don't shit post just to get the last post in a thread, you butts.