Author Topic: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)  (Read 23827 times)

Shadoweh

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Hero999

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Day 6 LyLO)
« Reply #241 on: November 20, 2012, 02:27:14 PM »
##Unvote
##Vote ActionDan

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Day 6 LyLO)
« Reply #242 on: November 20, 2012, 03:17:33 PM »
Votecount         
            
Conqueror:     (0)         
Raikaria:     (0)         
Serela:     (0)                  
ActionDan:    Hero999 (1)         
Hero999:    ActionDan, IHNN (2) (L-2)            
Shadoweh:    Raikaria (1)         
IHNN: (0)

Not voting: Shadoweh, Conqueror, Serela

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Countdown

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Day 6 LyLO)
« Reply #243 on: November 20, 2012, 03:43:24 PM »
##Vote: Hero999
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Conqueror

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Day 6 LyLO)
« Reply #244 on: November 20, 2012, 06:51:06 PM »
##Unvote
##Vote: Hero999


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Hero999

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Day 6 LyLO)
« Reply #245 on: November 20, 2012, 08:44:06 PM »
GG

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #246 on: November 20, 2012, 11:42:35 PM »
Votecount         
            
Conqueror:     (0)         
Raikaria:     (0)         
Serela:     (0)                  
ActionDan:    Hero999 (1)         
Hero999:    ActionDan, IHNN, Serela, Conqueror (4) (Hammer)            
Shadoweh:    Raikaria (1)         
IHNN: (0)

Not voting: Shadoweh

===

Hero999 was lynched.  He was a Town Cop.

Scum have claimed the majority!  Conqueror, Ralkaria, and ActionDan have attained victory!

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #247 on: November 20, 2012, 11:49:04 PM »
Well played scumteam, both cop claims had really unlikely claimsets (4 roleblocks in a row vs 4 alive results) and I thought the all alive stuff was less likely.

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Day 6 LyLO)
« Reply #248 on: November 20, 2012, 11:55:20 PM »
Roles

Mafia Godmother - Conqueror
Mafia Roleblocker - Ralkaria
Mafia Goon - ActionDan

Town Jailkeeper - Polaris
Town Cop - Hero999
Town 1-shot vig - Raitiki

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N1

Scum Roleblocker: ##Roleblock Shadoweh - Successful
Mafia Goon: ##Kill Omba - Successful
Town JK: ##Jail PX - Succesful
Town Cop: ##Investigate Conqueror - Not Guilty

N2

Scum Roleblocker: ##Roleblock Dormio - Successful
Mafia Goon: ##Kill Dormio - Unsuccessful
Town JK: ##Jail Dormio - Succesful
Town Cop: ##Investigate IHNN - Not Guilty

N3

Scum Roleblocker: ##Roleblock Youkai Jesus - Successful
Mafia Goon: ##Kill BT - Successful
Town JK: ##Jail Shadoweh - Succesful
Town Cop: ##Investigate Shadoweh - Not Guilty

N4

Scum Roleblocker: ##Roleblock Hero999 - Successful
Mafia Goon: ##Kill Youkai Jesus - Successful
Town Cop: ##Investigate ActionDan - Unsuccessful

N5

Scum Roleblocker: ##Roleblock Shadoweh - Successful
Mafia Goon: ##Kill Bardiche - Successful
Town Cop: ##Investigate ActionDan -  Guilty

===

Scum N1 QT

Graveyard QT

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #249 on: November 21, 2012, 12:00:38 AM »
@last post in graveyard: there was a scum roleblocker.  Your argument is invalid.

Also, FINALLY  :wikipedia:

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Day 6 LyLO)
« Reply #250 on: November 21, 2012, 12:07:09 AM »
gg

N2

Scum Roleblocker: ##Roleblock Dormio - Successful
Mafia Goon: ##Kill Dormio - Unsuccessful
Town JK: ##Jail Dormio - Succesful
u gaiz.

Conqueror

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #251 on: November 21, 2012, 12:08:01 AM »
Can't check right now but iirc none of the scum ever had more than one vote on them at a time...and I think I got zero votes the entire game. Hard to analyze wagons if you're not wagoning scum. >_>
I think the takeaway is that 24 hour days are...yeah. In the end it was mostly the first big wagon that went to lynch.
I thought we were screwed on the last day, with Raikaria insta voting in LYLO without waiting for the cop results, and Dan killing all the lurkers while missing the softclaimed cop, who somehow had investigations on people who were all alive, but uh yeah. We got lucky with the N4 block and the investigated scum being the Godfather.
Clearly the next iteration of this setup will be Texas Justice Wordless Mafia.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #252 on: November 21, 2012, 12:09:53 AM »
I thought putting up people for a lynch would be easy, but in the end, scum had to prevent random lynches for town on most days.  Oh well, the quote system was somewhat confusing under the hands of most people (except maybe Conqueror), so if I were to hold this again I might scrap it entirely.  Maybe 48 hour days are better as well.

In my opinion, the best way to play the game would be to set two people up L-1, L-2 each day, increasing the chance of netting scum and forcing the scum partners to commit to one or the other.  The way the game was played (e.g quicklynches in the last hour of the day), the votecounts were almost devoid of information.  Raikaira could even get away with voting Shadoweh at the beginning of the day and only switching at the end (to a person Shadoweh was voting no less).

Not sure how a roleblocker would block the same person for 4 nights when there was no rolecop around as well, but oh well.  Thanks to everyone for participating though.

Bardiche

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #253 on: November 21, 2012, 12:31:42 AM »
>Never got link to Graveyard
Well, that's nice.

Raikaria

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #254 on: November 21, 2012, 12:44:55 AM »
I insta voted in LYLO because I was about to go to sleep :V

Then came back after being done for the say to see the hammer.


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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #255 on: November 21, 2012, 01:07:22 AM »
1 word.
RAGEEEEE.

Shadoweh

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #256 on: November 21, 2012, 01:36:20 AM »
I HAVE NO WORDS AND I MUST SCREAM
I think playing this like it was a regular mafia, and always going to deadline was pretty terrible. I stayed quieet during the main game because I wanted to see what kind of comunication I could come up with in this game. I don't think the rules were that bad really. We could have set up all kinds of things just by claiming vanilla town followed by posts. Wwe also could have popcorned lylo by claiming then vote/unvote. It's shameful that we had both a scum quickvoting and a scum with MYSTERIOUS ROLEBLOCKEDD SYNDROME and that happened. :V

I wanted us to lynch Rakaria. Oh well. SERELAAAAAAAAAAAA


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Shadoweh

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #257 on: November 21, 2012, 01:49:15 AM »
Also, Dan, I claimed VT and voted myself because it was true and in a wordless game I figured some clarity might help, and also voted myself because I knew there would be a hueg wagon on me so why not! Somehow even when I can't talk it seems people don't really hate me ^_^/ And Dormio was Obvtown because he was Dormio. There was no Claim: It's Dormio option though.


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Conqueror

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #258 on: November 21, 2012, 02:04:51 AM »
I insta voted in LYLO because I was about to go to sleep :V
Well, I mean the point is that there's no way you'd have done that as town.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

ActionDan

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #259 on: November 21, 2012, 02:29:37 AM »
I insta voted in LYLO because I was about to go to sleep :V

Then came back after being done for the say to see the hammer.

that was a scary scary vote.

anyway have my impressions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOlGkipXyU

Ralkaria, and Scum Hydra

Quote
OMG, That's the Fucking Shit!

Votecount            
      
PX:     (0)                  
Polaris:     (0)                  
Conqueror:     (0)                  
Raikaria:     (0)                  
Serela:    Raikaria (1)         
Bardiche:     (0)                  
Dormio:     (0)                  
ActionDan:     (0)                  
Hero999:     (0)                  
Raitaki:     (0)                  
Shadoweh:    Dormio, Conqueror, PX Hero999, Shadoweh, Bardiche (6) (L-2)         
BT:     (0)                  
IHNN:     (0)                  
Omba:     (0)                  
Youkai Jesus:    IHNN (1)

This votecount is brought you by IHNN's spreadsheet.

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch

FLUFFY TAIL STATUS: TOUCHED [X]
                                UNTOUCHED [  ] 


##Vote Raitaki

Come on and slam, and welcome to the jam!
Quote
14. Omba - Vanilla Townie, shot N1

Unvote
Vote Raitaki

HEY YOU WHAT YOU GONE DO?

Claim: Cop
N1 Result: Targeted PX, guilty

Vote Serela

N2
Scum Roleblocker: ##Roleblock Dormio - Successful
Mafia Goon: ##Kill Dormio - Unsuccessful
Town JK: ##Jail Dormio - Succesful

NOOB LUCKER

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7. Dormio - Vanilla Townie, lynched D3

LOL "JK"; STEP IT UP ARMLET SNIPER  :smug:

End of Day 1 Votecount
Raitaki:    Omba, ActionDan, IHNN, Shadoweh, PX, Conqueror, Ralkaria, Polaris (HAMMER)
End of D2 Votecount                  
PX:    Shadoweh, Serela, IHNN, ActionDan, Hero999, Conqueror, PX (7) (Hammer)            
End of D3 Votecount                                 
Dormio:    Hero999, Conqueror, Youkai Jesus, Polaris, BT, ActionDan, Raikaria (7) (HAMMER)   
End of D4 Votecount               
Polaris:    IHNN, Serela, Shadoweh, Raikaria, ActionDan Conqueror(5) (HAMMER)         

JUST SLIDE (from lynch to lynch)

10. Raitiki - Town 1-shot nightvig, lynched D1
2. Polaris - Town Jailkeeper, lynched D4
9. Hero999 - Town Cop, lynched D6

THE FUN ENDS HERE


Don't lynch me.

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #260 on: November 21, 2012, 02:48:42 AM »
You guys should have discussed claiming shens in the 24 hour discussion phase!

Sorry Bardiche!

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #261 on: November 21, 2012, 02:57:01 AM »
That video is the greatest thing ever

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #262 on: November 21, 2012, 02:29:03 PM »
Wasn't surprised by the outcome for the few days I actually bothered to look at this game.

Still think zero discussion drastically reduces any chance whatsoever of town ever catching the scumteam, outside wild mass guessing or using role shenanigans. As if to prove the point, the cop had no luck this game, and scum had a FLAWLESS VICTORY.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

BT

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #263 on: November 21, 2012, 02:37:54 PM »
>Never got link to Graveyard
Well, that's nice.
Me too.

<___<

I called PX being dumb town with that counterclaim. Seriously. Should've responded with ##Unvote Shadoweh ##Vote Shadoweh to show disapproval.
I also cleared Hero on D2 for being late to the party. :V

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #264 on: November 21, 2012, 03:02:13 PM »
Wasn't surprised by the outcome for the few days I actually bothered to look at this game.

Still think zero discussion drastically reduces any chance whatsoever of town ever catching the scumteam, outside wild mass guessing or using role shenanigans. As if to prove the point, the cop had no luck this game, and scum had a FLAWLESS VICTORY.

To be fair, scum were fated to win this game just on player draw, because removing words removes Conq's AtE and thus makes him impossible to catch.
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Raikaria

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #265 on: November 21, 2012, 03:13:46 PM »
To be fair, scum were fated to win this game just on player draw, because removing words removes Conq's AtE and thus makes him impossible to catch.

Not to mention it removes my crazy conspiracy theories.


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ActionDan

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #266 on: November 21, 2012, 08:30:01 PM »
Wasn't surprised by the outcome for the few days I actually bothered to look at this game.

Still think zero discussion drastically reduces any chance whatsoever of town ever catching the scumteam, outside wild mass guessing or using role shenanigans. As if to prove the point, the cop had no luck this game, and scum had a FLAWLESS VICTORY.

allow me to 100% disagree.

the set-up was incredibly town-sided to make up for the lack of discussion.  Jailkeeper is just as powerful, and probably more so, than the cop.  It was 3 scum in 15 people with at least 2-3 people becoming confirmed town upon claiming.

The cop had plently of luck, getting 3 innocents by Mylo.  Despite scum successfully mislynching 4 days in a row, including 2 people who should have been confirmed town, if hero had claimed, the game would have been broken in town's favor.

Did I mention 2 confirmed town were lynched? You don't need discussion in order to prevent that from happening.  Px fucked up when he shouldn't have had.  Polaris should have claimed.

Scum got incredibly lucky all in all.

Run this set-up again, and you'll see town do 10 times better and probably win it.

Don't lynch me.

PX

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #267 on: November 21, 2012, 08:45:39 PM »
I simply didn't believe the claim. :/

Schezo

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #268 on: November 21, 2012, 08:53:51 PM »
You generally shouldn't lynch uncced claims in open setups.

But the timelimit is also part of the setup.  It made it scumsided.

Pesco

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Re: Wordless Mafia (Town Lose, Scum Win)
« Reply #269 on: November 21, 2012, 09:10:36 PM »
The limit is no different from a normal talking game. Deadline lynchings are purely because the players don't care enough to make up their minds before it's too late to think straight.