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Momizi Inubashiri

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random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« on: May 31, 2009, 04:58:55 AM »
i have played touhou for meny years now (1st started when the Imperishable Night was a demo)
anyways there are a few things i never gotten from the games and here is what i have to ask.

1) is Yukari the "ganon" of the touhou world? if not then who? if any
2) is the song (夜が降りてくる ~ Evening Star) Yukaris theme song or is it (Necrofantasia)
3) why did Yuyuko try to bloom a tree in Perfect Cherry Blossom?
4) whos theme song is the song (Demystify Feast)
5) when you "defeat" someone in a touhou game, what happends to them? *i know they dont die or get knocked out because they talk to you after you "defeat" them*
6) why does it seem like the song (永夜の報い ~ Imperishable Night) seems to be remixed into alot of other Touhou game after Imperishable Night's, mainmenu song? *lison to U.F.Os mainmenu and you will see what i mean*


thats all i can think of so far

thanks for answering
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 05:06:26 AM by Momizi Inubashiri »

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Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 05:03:58 AM »
1) No, and no one.
2) Both, although I like to think of Evening Star as her theme since Necrofantasia is a remix of Ran's theme.
3) She wanted to see who sealed it.
4) No one's, it plays on the day before the feast in IaMP.
5) They're just defeated in a perfectly safe spellcard battle.
6) PCB's was like that too by the way, and they're all arranges of the Seihou Shuusou Gyoku extra stage theme. As for the question, no clue. :x It's a very fitting title theme though.

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 05:07:05 AM »
wow thankyou heres more that i thot of

7) why is Subterranean Animism and Shoot the Bullet ridiculously hard (even on easy)
8 ) why did Zun make the touhou games harder after Imperishable Night? (i like 5 live 5 continues (and wen you die you dont have to start the dam stage over DX))

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 05:09:51 AM »
1) No. It isn't even specified if Yukari created Gensokyo. It's more than likely she's essential for Gensokyo's continued existence, though.
2) Both of them are. Necrofantasia was her theme in PCB, and Evening Star in IaMP.
3) Again, it's up to fans to interpret it. Although, the tree, Saigyou Ayakashi, was an evil magician. Yuyuko was that magician before she died.
4) Nobody's. It plays with whoever you fight against before Yukari in IaMP's story mode.
5) Danmaku is nonlethal, although the game rules are a bit fuzzy. Once you run out of spell cards, you lose. It's essentially a forfeit, as most people in Gensokyo could battle so powerfully it would cause disaster. Spell cards were created for that exact reason.
6) The main menu theme is continuous throughout the series. It's just remade in every game.

7) It's ZUN.
8) It's ZUN.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 05:13:00 AM by Drake »

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Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 05:10:59 AM »
Just in case you haven't seen it yet:  http://touhou.wikia.com/
This'll answer many of your questions.

Anyway...

1)  What's "ganon"?
2)  Necrofantasia.  [Edit:  In PCB]
3)  The tree, the Saigyou Ayakashi, is a youkai tree and doesn't bloom.  Yuyuko tried to make it bloom like the rest of her gardens.
4)  Yuyuko in IaMP
5)  Usually Reimu has a tea party with them.  No, no one actually dies in Touhou games.
6)  [Edit:  Nevermind]

[Edit:  Dang you guys respond fast!]

7 and 8) IN is probably the easiest standard-fare Touhou game, Zun probably felt he needed to make things distinctively harder for people.  And he definitely succeeded with SA.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 05:17:24 AM by Momiji »

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Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 05:12:17 AM »
wow thankyou heres more that i thot of

7) why is Subterranean Animism and Shoot the Bullet ridiculously hard (even on easy)
8 ) why did Zun make the touhou games harder after Imperishable Night? (i like 5 live 5 continues (and wen you die you dont have to start the dam stage over DX))

7 & 8 : Increased beer consumption, and someone circling around the death fairy right before the boss in IN's extra stage

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 05:18:32 AM »
1)  What's "ganon"?
2)  Necrofantasia.
3)  The tree, the Saigyou Ayakashi, is a youkai tree and doesn't bloom.  Yuyuko tried to make it bloom like the rest of her gardens.
asdf

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Seihou Shuusou Gyoku extra stage theme
It barely sounds the same. It's just in the same key, and many others are as well.

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Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 05:20:15 AM »
asdf
Once I saw the other responses, I knew what this meant.  XP

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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 05:35:34 AM »
thanks for answering them XD all of you rock

now my last thing i need to ask

how do you pronounce these names? i alredy know the ()s i olny added them to help other know who im talking about (marisa is my middle name XD)

1. Keine Kamishirasawa
2. Cirno
3. Flandre (Scarlet)
3. (Marisa) Kirisame
4. (Komachi) Onozuka
5. (Medicine) Melancholy
6. Patchouli (Knowledge)
7. Reisen Udongein Inaba
8. Remilia (Scarlet)
9. Sikieiki Yamaxanadu
10. (Yuyuko) Saigyouji

thank you once again

What's "ganon"?
hes the last boss in about every zelda game.
Although, the tree, Saigyou Ayakashi, was an evil magician. Yuyuko was that magician before she died.
SHE A TREE O_O

also is there a map of Gensokyo? from what i hurd its remains Uncharted.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 05:46:53 AM by Momizi Inubashiri »

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Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 05:49:53 AM »
1. "Key-neh Kah-mee-shee-rah-sah-wah"
2. In Japanese, "Chee-roo-no"
3. It's French for Flanders, I think it goes sort've like "Flah-n-druh"
3. "Kee-ree-sah-meh"
4. "Oh-noh-zoo-kah"
5. (Water)Melon Cauli(flower)
6. "Pah-choo-lee"
7. "Rey-sen Oo-dohn-geyn Ee-nah-bah"
8. "Reh-mee-lee-ah"
9. "Shee-kee-ey-kee Yah-mah-zah-nah-doo"
10. "Sah-ee-gyoh-jee"

hes the last boss in about every zelda game.
Can you believe I've never played Zelda? =<

SHE A TREE O_O
No, her dead body had been used to seal the tree, which was trying to lure people to sleep beneath it and kill them.  In Japanese mythology, anything can become a "youkai", even inanimate objects.  See here and here.

And yeah, she's actually a ghost in the Touhou games.

As for Gensokyo, it apparently is located withing the Yatsugatake Mountains.  Of course, even if you find the real-life Hakurei Jinja, you won't be able to enter Gensokyo.  See here.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 06:05:53 AM »
wow thanks this will help wen i talk about them later XD also


Can you believe I've never played Zelda? =<

And yeah, she's actually a ghost in the Touhou games.

1. no comment
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2. it took me some time to find that out lol (they whiteish glow in PCB kinda gave it away)

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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 06:20:30 AM »
I have a few pronunciations up on the Touhouwiki. Search for the characters, and there'll be a music note near their name.

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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 12:01:21 PM »
Up till now i still refuse to call Keine as: Key neh.. i always call her how i call in english... which i can't actually explain how

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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 12:54:57 PM »
I pretty much made all my pronunciations by the way I saw them spelled, which I am 100% positive that most of them are incorrect.

e.g

Cirno = Sir - no
Keine = Key - en (I refuse to pronounce that one in any other way actually)

and a bunch of others I cant think of right now

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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 01:26:30 PM »
I loled at Sir - no.

In the Touhou M-1 GP 3rd they pronounce Keine as: Kay - neh. Which comes close to wrathies post. Though each language has its own tones/sound for pronouncing letters. For example for a dutchy like me, Key is pronounced as 'Kii'. Chi-ru-no pronounced in dutch would be Girno.

>.< I think the turkish language would be far better. To make the japanese pronounciation correct Turkish people have to change the c to ?  <-- makes 'Ch' sound like in japanese (?irno).

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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2009, 01:54:14 PM »
I have a few pronunciations up on the Touhouwiki. Search for the characters, and there'll be a music note near their name.

hum... I think some of them have problems...

In Cirno's all I can hear is "N?"

and since I have it looping... No-No-No-No-No-No-No

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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2009, 02:01:36 PM »
1. no, because link and ganon don't fucking team up in majora's mask
3. weird tree rules state that what she did was the only way; stupid zun story is stupid
5. ever had a friendly fight with someone? that; also they may very well faint after you leave, who knows
6. ask manabu namiki
7. for one, shoot the bullet has no "easy mode"; they're hard because they needed to be
8. put your lives back to 3 and stop using continues
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2009, 02:09:13 PM »
I pretty much made all my pronunciations by the way I saw them spelled, which I am 100% positive that most of them are incorrect.

e.g

Cirno = Sir - no
Keine = Key - en (I refuse to pronounce that one in any other way actually)

and a bunch of others I cant think of right now

I actually support your Keine pronunciation and quite okay with Cirno
but i admit the real pronunciation is still fine

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Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2009, 04:24:25 PM »
(raise hand)
I have a question, why the girls can shoot Danmaku and what Danmaku is made of?

It's 2 Qs anyway.

Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2009, 04:27:41 PM »
Girls are better at Magic than men?
Sprite Energy mixed with basic elements/objects?
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Re: random touhou Qs (may contain noob ones)
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2009, 04:35:59 PM »
Magic.
The world sure is full of mystery

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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2009, 04:38:49 PM »
(raise hand)
I have a question, why the girls can shoot Danmaku

Are there boys in Gensokyo? Ok . . . one . . . Rinnosuke.

and what Danmaku is made of?
Rice pellets, small peanuts/nuts or bubbles bestowed with badass magic powers.

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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2009, 04:46:04 PM »
hum... I think some of them have problems...

In Cirno's all I can hear is "N?"

and since I have it looping... No-No-No-No-No-No-No
Somebody overwrote my EoSD pronunciations with his own. I'm the one with the awesome voice.

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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2009, 06:04:15 PM »
My interpretation of "what danmaku is," apart from being a magical martial art, is that creating little bullets of magical energy is really easy to do, and can be done no matter what kind of "magic" you use. I base this on the fact that literally everyone in the games can do it, regardless of how powerful they are (the first enemy in stage 1, versus Yukari) or what "type" of magic they use (Marisa uses "destructive magic", Sanae uses the power of the gods, Yumemi uses some sort of magical technology, etc). You can also create danmaku-"copies" of objects, too (Sakuya's knives, Reisen's bullets, Keine's knife-thingies). I made a more detailed analysis here.

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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2009, 07:25:20 PM »
Yeah I actually rather like your interpretation. There were a few spots where I was a bit edgy, but most of it sounded right.

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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2009, 07:32:17 PM »
My interpretation of "what danmaku is," apart from being a magical martial art, is that creating little bullets of magical energy is really easy to do, and can be done no matter what kind of "magic" you use.

I totally agree. I think there's something about the state of matter in Gensokyo itself that makes this and flying possible.

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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2009, 08:05:58 PM »
Boundary of Destruction and Passivity. Of Rules and Chaos. Of Danger and Safety. Of Magic and Simplicity.

And that's about it.

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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2009, 08:17:30 PM »
Yeah I actually rather like your interpretation. There were a few spots where I was a bit edgy, but most of it sounded right.
Edgy how? (The fourth-wall-breaking bits which provide an in-character reason to call someone a "stage-4 midboss"?) I admit the primary purpose was to fit with my comic, but any better ideas would be appreciated ...

Boundary of Destruction and Passivity. Of Rules and Chaos. Of Danger and Safety. Of Magic and Simplicity.

And that's about it.
You mean "Yukari is fooling around again"?

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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2009, 08:19:59 PM »
Ok my previous post was bullshit but if you look at it:

I guess danmaku also requires strong mental powers/strenght. As you know most spellcards are not just spreaded but have patterns. So martial arts would be indeed fitting as it focusses both physical and mental control.
Not to mention to control those familiars.

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« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2009, 09:45:37 PM »
I'm sorry, but I must bring this back up

1) is Yukari the "ganon" of the touhou world? if not then who? if any

While, in theory, Yukari is the most powerful Youkai in Gensokyo, she isn't about to take control of some mystic power in posession of a boy and a princess.

However...





The similairities are startling!!!