Author Topic: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE (Read 107846 times)

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2015, 05:19:27 PM »

Quote from: Edible on October 27, 2015, 04:45:34 PM

Would using a damage buff of some kind overwrite the debuff?

Assuming it works like literally every other debuff in the game? Yeah.

Grand Sonia would probably work because of that, yes.

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #31 on:** October 27, 2015, 05:59:29 PM »

Yeah, part of what we discussed was that the Weapon cards could actually be mega-useful for this dude because since they give a small attacker buff on a stupid fast cooldown, to the point that you could run two Volsungr in succession. If you wanted to.

commandercool · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2015, 06:58:35 PM »

Wow, if that's the case then he's a great White Sonia sub, and she just got way more legit as a farmable lead. What other farmable dragon subs are rainbow-friendly?

She still needs the green slot filled, but I don't think she cares about Draggie that much because she already has an enhance herself. Maybe Zhao Yun? His active isn't great, but it's not nothing. I guess you could also use any fruit dragon for green too, since although their active breaks Sonia's leader skill it would still be handy for stalling, and all of the awakenings would be useful.

WSonia/Volsungr/Volsungr/Defoud/Zhao Yun or Lemon Dragon/WSonia

Kind of low-utility, but for a 100% farmable team it seems like it packs a lot of punch.

Edible · « **Reply #33 on:** October 27, 2015, 07:06:10 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on October 27, 2015, 06:58:35 PM

What other farmable dragon subs are rainbow-friendly?

Nordis?

commandercool · « **Reply #34 on:** October 27, 2015, 07:12:59 PM »

Oh yeah shit, Nordis would fill the green slot while providing great stats and a passable active. Gravity might be really handy for Sonia since I'm guessing her damage is probably a little lot and she may fall short of killing a lot of things normally. His awakenings are a little sketchy for a rainbow team, but they're still great for farmable.

Thaws · « **Reply #35 on:** October 27, 2015, 07:22:31 PM »

Alresch with a Baggi sub for maximum survivability sounds fun.
Spica's also cute but I'm not sure if I have the right subs for her even if I pull one.
Oh who am I kidding I haven't pulled a single green pantheon god in a year there's no chance I'm getting her. rip

Glad gungho finally started giving pantheons more than 4 awakenings to start with because waiting a year to uevo them so that people start using them is so dumb.

commandercool · « **Reply #36 on:** October 27, 2015, 10:53:45 PM »

Did Descend Carnival, got Tengu and Gaia, did not get Draggie this time. I'm happy with that. Now to start the obnoxious process of leveling up and evolving Tengu. So tempted to just throw a snow globe in him...

Suikama · « **Reply #37 on:** October 27, 2015, 11:53:17 PM »

i died to sphinx because skyfalls brought him to exactly 10% from full >___>

also apparently your HP total gets added in coop mode?

oh boy would it be possible to hit 1 million HP with two hypermaxed noah teams :V

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #38 on:** October 28, 2015, 12:14:06 AM »

Quote from: Suikama on October 27, 2015, 11:53:17 PM

oh boy would it be possible to hit 1 million HP with two hypermaxed noah teams :V

Nowhere close. The maximum amount with 10 hyper noahs with hp latents is only 465,201 HP.

Suikama · « **Reply #39 on:** October 28, 2015, 01:06:54 AM »

oh for some reason I thought you could hit 500k with noah

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #40 on:** October 28, 2015, 01:40:11 AM »

I noticed there was a director's choice carnival happening and decided to do one pull. Got Ra. My thought process basically went:

"Hmm..."

: "Sacchi?"

"Oh, yeah? What is it Horus?"

: "You're not... thinking of replacing me as your rainbow leader... right?"

"I've spent far too many resources on you to quit now."

: "But if you hadn't... would you?"

"I ain't good enough to activate your LS consistently, much less his."

: [squeals in flamingchickenese]

Jq1790 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 28, 2015, 01:43:17 AM »

"only 465,201."

Also did another pull because I never learn.

>light CyberDragon

Ok I'm done for real,ugh. It isn't terrible, but I don't really have much of a team yet to make him fit. Not useless so I can't trash it either, but oh well.

commandercool · « **Reply #42 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:42:45 AM »

These damage numbers happened when I got an excellent Kali board with 11 white orbs, then like a million white skyfalls, half of which were two-prongs. And this is even without Sun Quan's active. Get killed, Mephisto. Consider this payback for all the times you were mean to me right after you came out.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #43 on:** October 28, 2015, 07:03:32 AM »

So we have transformers in this game now.

But not just any kind of transformers - MONMUSU TRANSFORMERS

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #44 on:** October 28, 2015, 12:31:29 PM »

No-stoned lifive last night. AYomi strong.

I wonder if I can do ilsix...

commandercool · « **Reply #45 on:** October 28, 2015, 12:37:20 PM »

Yeah, I have no plan for Ilsix right now. Gabriel doesn't want to do it because a 50% chance of gravity is crazy, Ra doesn't want to do it because dealing with Starling would be a bitch and Ilsix's mechanics are pretty rough on rainbow gods. I suppose if I work out the math just right Verdandi actually has a shot, or maybe dual Gabriels if I want to die of boredom?

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #46 on:** October 28, 2015, 01:04:17 PM »

Starling is the real choking point for Yomi, too. There's just too much risk of hitting too hard.

Suikama · « **Reply #47 on:** October 28, 2015, 02:20:52 PM »

i regret hypermaxing two andromedas

thier hp is just so terrible that even when hypermaxed i can't tank big hits, even with Isis shield. I'm always just a little bit off.

also even though my base RCV is high, it's still pretty bad compared to anything with even a tiny RCV multipler

Jq1790 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:39:43 PM »

How low is her base HP, like 2500 or something?

Edible · « **Reply #49 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:41:16 PM »

3k HP is nowhere near "so terrible" imo? More, since yours are hypermaxed.

I guess either invest in hp latents or run an HP lead / bigger shield if you need to tank a big hit

Zerviscos · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:42:07 PM »

Wow. An FF collab. Makes me want to play again.

Suikama · « **Reply #51 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:48:32 PM »

Quote from: Edible on October 28, 2015, 03:41:16 PM

I guess either invest in hp latents

It would be nice if those would appear again ._.

Edible · « **Reply #52 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:10:20 PM »

"Invest" in this case would be buying them, sadly :V

With that said, you're switching to ra dragon right? Probably better HP across the board on that sort of team

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #53 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:39:12 PM »

So apparently the final three floors of Super Ultimate God Rush (co-op α) are:

Zeus-Stratios -> Divine Queen Hera -> UA Kali

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #54 on:** October 28, 2015, 04:57:14 PM »

Just 2-stoned dragon rush. It was... surprisingly painless, actually. Vishnu's active overwrites Beyzul's Ice Age, I have more than enough damage to destroy Wangren in a reasonable amount of time, I got a lot of ease in the first two floors by rolling the water monsters in both of them (and the first one gives me an eternity to stall) and I blocked a skill block with only 40% resist (since everyone besides the leaders were bound) and LKouryou was surprisingly low-health :wat:

However, Threedia wrecked me because of lack of health - I didn't remember his second turn hit for 20k :V - and Zaerog kinda murdered me with Zero Blast when I fucked up my combo and left him with a sliver of health - and no, dark resists wouldn't have helped since I wasn't at full health.

Oh right and I uvo'd Kouryou into LKouryou despite having never done Paradise. :V

commandercool · « **Reply #55 on:** October 28, 2015, 05:03:36 PM »

Unsurprisingly after getting Grisar right away, I haven't seen one Elia in ~25 runs. No way in hell I would ever directly farm skillups for these guys, less than 4% appearance rate (for me so far) for a 25% or less chance at a skillup is unreasonable.

Thaws · « **Reply #56 on:** October 28, 2015, 05:08:12 PM »

Quote from: OverlordChirei on October 28, 2015, 04:39:12 PM

So apparently the final three floors of Super Ultimate God Rush (co-op α) are:

Zeus-Stratios -> Divine Queen Hera -> UA Kali

Ahahaha DQ Hera pre-empt 53566 damage.
DKali hp 37mil hahahahahaha.

But since this is 0stam sounds fun.

I know someone on iOS but gotta wait for him to wake up but he also has work in the morning so might have to wait till weekends before we can find some time to co-op.

arg timezones

Quote from: commandercool on October 28, 2015, 05:03:36 PM

Unsurprisingly after getting Grisar right away, I haven't seen one Elia in ~25 runs. No way in hell I would ever directly farm skillups for these guys, less than 4% appearance rate (for me so far) for a 25% or less chance at a skillup is unreasonable.

Yea. I didn't start bothering with Elia until 10x +eggs on descends was a thing so that Elia is kinda a bonus. Otherwise farming for pys sounds like a more mentally healthy thing to do. (Imagine getting a 0/5 on these guys after farming for invades for days)

commandercool · « **Reply #57 on:** October 28, 2015, 05:45:38 PM »

You know, Lifive is much more viable than I remember now that I look at him again. For all of everyone shitting on him for being too expensive I guess I overlooked that he's pretty solid. Not sure what you'd run him on exactly (maybe Takeru?), but his stats are solid, his awakenings are passable or better, and his active is great at max skill.

Thaws · « **Reply #58 on:** October 28, 2015, 06:22:00 PM »

DMeta is now 1.35x HP and ATK to DARK.
HP 51~80% 3x ATK
HP 0%~50% 4x ATK

So your DARK team basically stays x16 at 51~80% and gets boosted to 29x when you're under 50% hp.

Edit: Seems like the type restriction on DMeta is gone. :V She's pretty good now...?

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #59 on:** October 28, 2015, 06:30:27 PM »

Huh, so she gets a base ATK multiplier now too? Intriguing.

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