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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #450 on: January 25, 2011, 10:55:09 PM »
Now I would like to try it out, but you guys are pretty much the only one that play on a regular basis. So I'll check into your channel later and hope it is okay for me to join a few games. :>
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Whar2baikarakasa?

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Dular (Yukari)
Dormio (Yuuka)

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DrRawr (Byakuren)
Pesco (Cirno)
Sodium (Youmu)

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #451 on: January 26, 2011, 02:25:24 AM »
Whar2baikarakasa?

Someone should go update the item wiki, 'cuz I had no idea it was removed!  That made me waste a whole lotta cash.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #452 on: January 26, 2011, 07:35:31 AM »
Yeah forgot to note on wiki Karakasa is no longer buyable in 0.957i. I guess like with God's hand, they temporarily removed it to make it better (I hope). So I updated the item wiki and added the card icons there as well (thanks to LuckyCharat for the icons).

When were the extra cards introduced btw. 0.957a right?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #453 on: January 26, 2011, 07:39:06 AM »
When were the extra cards introduced btw. 0.957a right?
0.957b.
The versions went straight from .955g to .957b.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #454 on: January 26, 2011, 09:47:33 PM »
What do you actually need to play this game? A legal copy of wc3? (I don't have one  :ohdear: )

Else I might try it when I have free time.

Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #455 on: January 27, 2011, 05:19:11 AM »
@Helix

well you could read it at the first post . all you have to do is install WC3 + Frozen Throne and upgrade it to 1.24 ver, download the dots map, thus have fun playing it :D

Anyway i'm interested playing with you guys, what time does you guys usually play? using battle.net?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #456 on: January 27, 2011, 05:26:07 AM »
There's a couple of us around in the IRC chan at the moment and use MotK Bnet to play. We should have enough for 3v3 if you pop in now.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #457 on: January 27, 2011, 09:53:19 AM »
What do you actually need to play this game? A legal copy of wc3? (I don't have one  :ohdear: )

Else I might try it when I have free time.

Warcraft 3 and FT are like ultra cheap to buy these days. I don't know about your wallet if you have enough. But amazon for example reports aprox $11 for each.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #458 on: January 27, 2011, 09:59:49 AM »
All the prices I'm seeing range from $10~$20 for each game.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #459 on: January 27, 2011, 05:48:21 PM »
You can nearly buy HoN for that price. So I'll rather stick to that, since I never really liked wc3.

Btw, how is the balance in DoTS? I was looking through some of the skills and I saw some really insane stuff like Aya. Some kind of debuff that lasts SIXTEEN seconds with a cooldown of FIVE. And it shares vision (omg?!?!) and increases her damage by like 80 or so against the target. Seemed really OP to me...

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #460 on: January 27, 2011, 05:51:42 PM »
It's Touhou. Everyone is OP.

You kinda get used to it after several games. We don't bother caring abut balance anymore.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #461 on: January 27, 2011, 06:08:50 PM »
Pretty much. Random games cause a lot of whining / raging we noticed :V so we just play 'All pick' and 'random at your own risk'.


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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #462 on: January 27, 2011, 07:16:30 PM »
It's balanced in the same way that everyone is OP in their own regard, and have specific counters and weaknesses.

Flan is a truly monstrous person late game, with a single whack reaching 2500 damage and she can do that for four hits, but is completely useless against people who can dash away or make themselves immune to physical damage(Reimu, Suika, etc).  For a HoN example, it's like picking Devourer against Forsaken Archer, Pyromancer, etc.  The squishy types just aren't designed for fighting someone like that.

There are a lot of specific counters, and although some don't have one(Wriggle and Koakuma for example), they tend to get weaker late game but have a very strong early game, so they have to finish the game fast or they'll gradually become more useless in compared to some girls who have a bad early game but strong late game(Tenshi, Flan).  There have been instances where Wriggle was just stomping everyone and pushed us to our base, and one of my allies(Tenshi) suddenly just started stomping all over the place and actually was able to push back to their towers because her late game started to kick in.


Additionally, Pestilence has a similar debuff where the target gives shared vision, reveals invisible, and reduces armor by 5/10/15.  That's like giving EVERYONE a +100 damage attack AND he can stun too, which Aya can't.  His even lasts longer, 30 seconds compared to her 18 seconds. 
Pesilence>Aya
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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #463 on: January 27, 2011, 09:38:34 PM »
Yeah, although a lot of the girls have OP skills, pretty much all of them have counterpicks.

Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #464 on: January 27, 2011, 09:49:36 PM »
My wriggle is strong all game :V

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #465 on: January 27, 2011, 09:56:02 PM »
No, you're just a jerk.
Stop backdooring.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #466 on: January 28, 2011, 03:57:29 AM »
Additionally, Pestilence has a similar debuff where the target gives shared vision, reveals invisible, and reduces armor by 5/10/15.  That's like giving EVERYONE a +100 damage attack AND he can stun too, which Aya can't.  His even lasts longer, 30 seconds compared to her 18 seconds. 
Pesilence>Aya

Pestilence/Slardar also is a STR hero and has no escape mechanisms on his own aside from Sprint, which is inferior to Aya's Wind God Girl.
Furthermore, AMplify Damage/Swarm isn't stackable, Aya's Bunbunmaru is stackable.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #467 on: January 28, 2011, 10:25:08 PM »
Swingy games

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Helepolis: Sanae
Loolicon: Satori
Sodium: Tenshi
eronar: Marisa

Moriya
Hero999: Keine
Pesco: Eirin
Tapsa: Shizuha
Dular: Mystia

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #469 on: January 28, 2011, 10:41:34 PM »
And I would have left that game if they took down our top rax... haha.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #470 on: January 28, 2011, 11:22:11 PM »
Who knew that Keine with revive and +100% aspd would be that evil?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #471 on: January 29, 2011, 08:45:21 AM »
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<Dormio> @choose be Iku to jerk Noname or someone else
<+Keine> Dormio: I choose...be Iku to jerk Noname! ^_^V
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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #472 on: January 29, 2011, 09:00:54 AM »
:V

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Dular (Mystia)
DollS (Yuugi)
Kerigis (Byakuren)

Moriya
Rizock (Kanako)
Infinity (Cirno)
Noname (Utsuho)
Trance (Minoriko)

Iku's jerk lightning ALWAYS picks me to kill FIRST before everyone else.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #473 on: January 29, 2011, 10:01:22 AM »
:V

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Dormio (Iku)
Dular (Mystia)
DollS (Yuugi)
Kerigis (Byakuren)

Moriya
Rizock (Kanako)
Infinity (Cirno)
Noname (Utsuho)
Trance (Minoriko)

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.  :(

Dormio you love showing replays where I suck massive dicks huh?

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #474 on: January 29, 2011, 10:09:08 AM »
:( It's all coincidental.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #475 on: January 29, 2011, 10:09:17 AM »
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.  :(

Dormio you love showing replays where I suck massive dicks huh?

Because we all know it makes him look so damn good

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #476 on: January 29, 2011, 11:22:28 AM »
What.
I suck lol.

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Trance (Meiling)
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Tapsa (Medicine)

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EDIT: HURR DURR I FORGOT THE REPLAY.
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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #477 on: January 29, 2011, 01:50:07 PM »
Well, DollS isn't as experienced as the other 7 playing in that game. Still a learning player =/

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #478 on: January 29, 2011, 08:23:01 PM »
I can forgive Dolls for learning, I didn't 'get' Dota for a pretty long while myself.

On a side note, Fiore's first death was most glorious death.

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Re: 东方幻想乡[D]efense [o]f [t]he [S]hrines (DotS, WC3)
« Reply #479 on: January 29, 2011, 09:34:58 PM »
On a side note, Fiore's first death was most glorious death.
Our team's kill/death ratios were also quite glorious.