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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2013, 03:05:27 PM »
Damn people...you guys got all serious about the show, fanservice, and boobies.

This kind of thing isn't rare nowadays and it's meant to attract male viewers, with the other side of attracting female once, considering that the main character is a woman.
It is offensive in a way...yes, but it's probably a way to show a woman's pride, rather than being embarrassed about it. Thinking of it like how a man with a toned body strips his clothes off.

Anyways, if this were dangerous in any way, like promoting rape, I'm sure the dozens or even hundreds of animes and even mangas we've already watched should've made us into beasts by now. It's like how some parents describe video games that promote violence, which is clearly stupid. Sure it's bloody as hell, but they won't just run amok murdering everyone.

The thing is it's all in how people see it. Not all of us has the same mindset. You see it as promoting sex, some find if intriguing, some offended, some even fascinated, while others just see it as the plain same old same old fanservice that's been happening in almost every anime, like me!

If people give in to their sexual urges, masturbate for sexual gratification, rape, or have plain sex, then it's their own fault for having no control. Shows can't control you, even if they have those "subliminal messages" and whatnot. You're a fool for being fooled.

One thing can't actually just influence someone in an instant, it needs to be a set of things/events that will gradually make a person into that someone. If a person raped someone, I'm pretty sure it's not just some show is his reason for doing so.
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...And here I am still noticing that Ryuuko is Simon, and Aikuro is Kamina.
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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #121 on: October 23, 2013, 03:25:00 PM »
...And here I am still noticing that Ryuuko is Simon, and Aikuro is Kamina.
How? Aikuro is hardly the burning-spirit warrior that Kamina was, and Ryuuko has been fighting since the beginning whereas Simon had to be goaded into it over time.

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #122 on: October 23, 2013, 04:02:44 PM »
Trigger Magazine e-letters uploaded onto danbooru (yes danbooru warning) Some commentary with keyframes from the episodes. This caught my notice the most though:

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How did everyone like the 3rd episode of KILL la KILL? 3rd episode and it's a climax already. Aren't we rushing it a little too much? Won't we burn out of ideas? You guys have nothing to worry about! We got a whole load of awesome left in our reservoir!

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #123 on: October 23, 2013, 06:49:27 PM »
Anyways, if this were dangerous in any way, like promoting rape, I'm sure the dozens or even hundreds of animes and even mangas we've already watched should've made us into beasts by now. It's like how some parents describe video games that promote violence, which is clearly stupid. Sure it's bloody as hell, but they won't just run amok murdering everyone.
Sorry to be that guy, but I just want to make a slight clarification that "promotes rape culture" doesn't generally mean "turns people into rapists"; it means that the thing reflects or promotes the attitudes associated with an existing rape culture. But I haven't seen Kill La Kill yet so I can't comment on the subject one way or the other.

Personally, I think it's awesome and fun to "overthink" ostensibly mindless anime. Like don't even get me started on how Arakawa Under The Bridge is a clever and biting criticism of Japan's strict hierarchical socio-economic structure.

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #124 on: October 23, 2013, 08:12:14 PM »
I basically saw the Kamina likeness as soon as his glasses went off, haha

Definitely lots of shout-outs to previous gainax anime, esp Gurenn Lagann.
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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #125 on: October 23, 2013, 09:47:28 PM »
How? Aikuro is hardly the burning-spirit warrior that Kamina was...

That we know of. If he doesn't fight somebody at some point while screaming with his shirt off I'm gonna be a little disappointed.

Also, what do you think the odds are that he's the main/a major villain? Dude's super suspicious. So my call of the show is that he's evil, and one of the other guys I've been consistently watching this with one of them has money on Uzu being secretly a good guy/eventual romantic interest.

Sorry to be that guy, but I just want to make a slight clarification that "promotes rape culture" doesn't generally mean "turns people into rapists"; it means that the thing reflects or promotes the attitudes associated with an existing rape culture. But I haven't seen Kill La Kill yet so I can't comment on the subject one way or the other.

Personally, I think it's awesome and fun to "overthink" ostensibly mindless anime. Like don't even get me started on how Arakawa Under The Bridge is a clever and biting criticism of Japan's strict hierarchical socio-economic structure.

I agree with all of your applicable words.

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #126 on: October 23, 2013, 10:09:23 PM »
Personally, I think it's awesome and fun to "overthink" ostensibly mindless anime. Like don't even get me started on how Arakawa Under The Bridge is a clever and biting criticism of Japan's strict hierarchical socio-economic structure.

I just want to drop in to say that Arakawa Under the Bridge is an absolutely brilliant anime. It has a good amount of both social criticism as well as mindless fun, combined into a perfectly blended mixture of clever and witty dialog.

More on topic: This show may have a little too much references for me to catch them all, but they're a nice touch during the times when I do recognize them. For those who might have missed it in episode 1, here's a diebuster reference  that I thought was pretty cool.

also, satsuki's ass > ryuuko's boobs

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #127 on: October 23, 2013, 10:22:01 PM »
I just want to drop in to say that Arakawa Under the Bridge is an absolutely brilliant anime. It has a good amount of both social criticism as well as mindless fun, combined into a perfectly blended mixture of clever and witty dialog.

More on topic: This show may have a little too much references for me to catch them all, but they're a nice touch during the times when I do recognize them. For those who might have missed it in episode 1, here's a diebuster reference  that I thought was pretty cool.

also, satsuki's ass > ryuuko's boobs

Aw man, I did miss that. Love Diebuster. That's super cool.
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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #128 on: October 24, 2013, 01:18:10 AM »
How? Aikuro is hardly the burning-spirit warrior that Kamina was, and Ryuuko has been fighting since the beginning whereas Simon had to be goaded into it over time.
Not really personality-wise, but in appearance. I re-looked some photos of Kamina, and looked at Aikuro, they pretty much look similar. With the only noticeable differences are longer hair length, and a significantly muscular body tone. Put Kamina's glasses, and there, you got yourself a Kamina reference.

Ryuuko is like the gender and personality opposite of Simon. Wearing also the "seemingly" same colors as he does.



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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #129 on: October 24, 2013, 01:28:07 AM »
Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #130 on: October 24, 2013, 01:51:39 AM »
Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?

For me it's almost none. I probably haven't seen most of the series they reference. It definitely has a lot going on on a few levels, and that's among the least of them.
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« Reply #131 on: October 24, 2013, 01:57:17 AM »
Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?
Not much. The reasons people talk about the references and similarities is purely because those shows were great and this show is similarly great.

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #132 on: October 24, 2013, 03:08:49 AM »
Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?
Not at all, since it's referencing so many series at once, in story, style and tone. They end up referencing so many that some of the references (Kekko Kamen) fly under the radar for most viewers.

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #133 on: October 24, 2013, 03:22:31 AM »
Kekko Kamen

Hahaha yes I'm glad someone else picked up on this.

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« Reply #134 on: October 24, 2013, 03:58:50 AM »
Hahaha yes I'm glad someone else picked up on this.
I've been thinking it's a Go Nagai tribute more than a Gainax tribute since the beginning.  I love Go Nagai and all, but that so many people miss out on those references make me worried for future anime generations.

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« Reply #135 on: October 24, 2013, 08:01:02 AM »
Always thought aikuro had more of a aizen parody with the taking off glasses = increase powerlevel

forgot where source was but apparently tomorrow's ep is comedy(obviously) cant remember bout 5 and 6 but 7 is about mako and 8 is new arc or something. hype

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #136 on: October 24, 2013, 05:50:01 PM »
watched a livestream of epi 4 without subs

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BUDGET ALL WENT TO EPISODE 5, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #138 on: October 24, 2013, 07:21:08 PM »
So I have yet to see a statement about how many episodes there are supposed to be. Is this a known thing and I missed it? I'd be fine with 13 or 24 I guess.
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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #139 on: October 24, 2013, 09:33:33 PM »
Omigosh I must've enjoyed this ep the most so far.

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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #140 on: October 24, 2013, 10:48:02 PM »
lol, dafuq did I just watch... this episode 4 made me laugh hard at least three times. It was just so silly and absurd... seems like it was entirely focused on comedy factor, which contrasts Ep 3 that was more serious due to the battle of Ryuuko x Satsuki (but it still had some comedy as well).

That aside, I wonder if Satsuki's Kamui can talk like Senketsu. At least it hasn't said a word so far.


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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #141 on: October 25, 2013, 12:12:45 AM »
Best low budget episode.
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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #142 on: October 25, 2013, 01:34:00 AM »
Didn't expect filler so soon, but at least it was really amusing.

That aside, I wonder if Satsuki's Kamui can talk like Senketsu. At least it hasn't said a word so far.
It probably can, but presumably only Satsuki can hear it, if only Ryoko being able to hear Senketsu is any indication.
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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #143 on: October 25, 2013, 02:30:11 AM »
meanwhile half of mako's family is dead

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« Reply #144 on: October 25, 2013, 02:50:29 AM »
This episode was solid gold

I fucking lost it at the blue danube part



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« Reply #145 on: October 25, 2013, 03:06:41 AM »
can senketsu be a waifu/husbando even tho not human



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« Reply #146 on: October 25, 2013, 10:57:57 AM »
can senketsu be a waifu/husbando even tho not human



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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #147 on: October 26, 2013, 09:27:26 PM »
You know, Ryuuko is the best fucking thing to come out of japan ever since Hakurei Reimu, but this show has a distinct lack of Nonon

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« Reply #148 on: October 27, 2013, 01:28:02 AM »
You know, Ryuuko is the best fucking thing to come out of japan ever since Hakurei Reimu, but this show has a distinct lack of Nonon

I need me some more Nonon

Nonon in the preview motherfucker awwww yeeeeah
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Re: It didn't just SAVE anime [Kill la Kill Thread]
« Reply #149 on: October 27, 2013, 01:43:58 AM »
I honestly doubt it's much more complex than that, and I would be frankly amazed if they were actually trying to make some kind of nuanced commentary on gender politics.

Unless this really is trying to be Cutie Honey, which was a commentary on gender politics.

Thematically this looks to be Imaishi flat out trying to do a Go Nagai show, or maybe a deconstruction as per Gurren Laggan.
No way to tell until it progresses furthe;, either way it's probably going to be covering objectification and gender politics as a theme.