Author Topic: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story  (Read 30468 times)

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2012, 02:11:30 AM »
Normal - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 97,807,270 - C - Screenshot


As far as I know this is a world record, so hooray!!  Replay will come once I improve this more.

Normal - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 102,986,400 - C - Screenshot - Replay

Run improved, letter score get!  Couple mistakes here and there, so I may try to improve this sometime down the road, but not right now.  Death on Elly's first phase cost 195 graze (1.45 million), playing it safe on Yuka grazing cost me 18 (110k, no big deal), skipped Kurumi and Orange supergrazes because I'm too inconsistent on them (couple million maybe?).
« Last Edit: September 08, 2012, 12:47:10 AM by Chirpy McGareggan »

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2012, 03:29:54 AM »
So if you pulled off a run with these strats on Lunatic, what would the score be like?

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2012, 05:05:46 AM »
Not sure.  I assume you would get more graze on stages 1/2/5, more points per graze, and better clear bonuses (+20m from this maybe?  Very rough guess).  On the other hand, Stage 6 Yuka's final is impossible to perfect on Lunatic at low rank (possibly Stage 5 too?  Ask Donut about that one, he should know), so you would need to account for that with extra resources.  You'd need to change things here and there in the route, taking out some of the bombs with lower returns and possibly adjusting suicide spots a bit.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2012, 05:13:17 AM by Chirpy McGareggan »

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2012, 07:48:03 AM »
Let's see:
- All stage clear bonuses are multiplied by 1.4 (Chirpy's bonuses were .9m, 1.9m, 5.6m, 9.4m, 1m, 5.1m, which would gain ~10m if the bonus was otherwise exactly the same)
- Graze is worth an additional 2500 each (that's an additional 10m if you gain 4000 graze throughout the game)
- More graze is available in stages where the counter isn't maxed, for an additional 5000+70n each (where n is number of point items collected in the stage)
- Bullet cancel bonuses are much higher (for example, the stage 1 midboss can give a displayed bonus of over 1m, and Orange over 2.5m, that's a gain of 3m from stage 1 bullet canceling alone)
- Apparently, some bombs may need to be used for survival instead of score (losing maybe 1m per bomb)

I'll estimate Lunatic has the potential for 30-40 million more than Normal.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2012, 06:14:27 PM »
Normal - Marisa A
S-TORA - 54,023,720 - C - Screenshot

Mainly survival. Plan on improving this, atleast.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2012, 06:43:34 PM »
Hard - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 58,934,030 - 4 - Screenshot


Reimu game over.  I don't even know why I'm submitting this...

Hard - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 70,536,120 - 5 - Screenshot


MASTA SPARK game over!  Trainwrecked Reimu/Yuka.  Hard mode is HARD!  The bosses actually started shooting back at me :<
« Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 06:21:36 AM by Chirpy McGareggan »

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2012, 03:16:35 PM »
Lunatic - ReimuA
PMW - 58,220,990 - C -Screenshot

First 1cc run, so the score isn't too good. Maybe I'll try normal or hard mode for scoring a bit.

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2012, 06:22:54 AM »
Hard - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 92,146,050 - 6 - Screenshot

So close... :<

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2012, 09:43:49 PM »
Hard - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 108,524,270 - C - Screenshot - Replay

125m would be possible on a flawless run, but rings+Yuka.  Will probably improve this after I get a solid Lunatic run.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2012, 07:29:03 AM by ♥♥♥東方Hugger♥♥♥ »

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2012, 12:51:41 AM »
Normal - ReimuB
Chirpy13 - 104,418,210 - C - Screenshot

Never thought I'd score this high with a Reimu shot... Beats my old Marisa score too  :o

Lunatic - ReimuB
Chirpy13 - 107,064,900 - C - Screenshot

Blind Marisa, scary stuff.  Only 1m2b on her though, so it could be worse I guess.  Gotta improve this.

Extra - ReimuB
Chirpy13 - 64,397,680 - C - Screenshot


New extra personal best :>

Extra - ReimuB
Chirpy13 - 77,382,780 - C - Replay

And so Pdee's long reign has come to an end.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2012, 03:43:12 AM by ♥♥♥東方Hugger♥♥♥ »

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2012, 04:08:37 PM »
Extra - ReimuB
Zil - 78,625,740 - C - Screenshot

I guess I'll submit this for now, though I'll probably improve it. Sorry to cut your superpost short, Chirpy. :3

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2012, 05:10:17 PM »
Easy - Reimu A
gof - 39.361.380 - C Screenshot

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2012, 05:27:41 PM »
Might as well repost these from the tournament thread.

Normal - ReimuB
Karisa - 81,897,350 - C - Screenshot

Extra - ReimuB
Karisa - 77,319,640 - C - Replay

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2012, 09:06:24 AM »
I noticed the top Easy score in the Touhou Hall of Records thread seemed improvable. So here's something that scores higher, complete with a video just because. Not that I expect to hold the record for long with Chirpy around.

Easy - ReimuA
Karisa - 56,074,820 - C - Replay

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2012, 09:33:09 AM »
My easy mode grazing observations that i think may not be obvious:

  • 1st boss 1st pattern is aimed down - safe to supergraze. Final pattern can be supergrazed.
  • 3rd boss final spell lasts very long and gets denser.
  • 4th stage first midboss fast yellow double bulletrows can be supergrazed safely above it. Doesnt work for second midboss i think.
  • Marisa randomly aimed large bullet blasts can be supergrazed. I think marisa uses random patterns each time.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2012, 12:53:36 PM »
  • 1st boss 1st pattern is aimed down - safe to supergraze.
Oh, that's interesting. On higher difficulties it seems to be aimed either at you or around you depending on rank.

  • 3rd boss final spell lasts very long and gets denser.
Are you saying it gets even denser than it did in my video?

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2012, 04:26:19 PM »
Maybe it was my low rank getting higher or my imagination because now i see no difference in 3rd boss final spell  :V

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2013, 10:41:30 AM »
Easy - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 55,933,230 - C - Screenshot


170k lower than Karisa  :ohdear:.  Stages 1/3 were significantly better (500k/1m), but 2/4 were significantly worse (700k/400k).  5 was a little worse, but I can chalk that up to dropping a few more items and not milking any graze from Yuka.  Losing to a Reimu shot on stage 4 is pretty terrible though, so I'm clearly doing something really wrong there (the 400k would be more like 1.3m if I were using Reimu).  I'll have to look into it when I'm less tired.

EDIT: Looked at my replay on 2, apparently I messed up one of my bombs and cost myself about 500k of the 700.  Should have restarted there I guess  :ohdear:.  4 was particularly interesting though.  A bit of the difference was the last bomb, but most of the score difference actually came from the boss.  Apparently Marisa's oreries give about 50k for each one you kill, which more than makes up for the lost graze.  Seems like Reimu is the shot for Easy and possibly Normal depending on how long you milk them.

EDIT2: Make that all modes if the RNG gods give you 3 and a half minutes (9 oreries sets) of Marisa not being bullshit on Hard/Luna.  Managed to get 999 graze on stage 4 normal with Reimu, so the graze thing is no longer a thing.  600 was before the boss, 750-800 is possible going into the boss if you're super aggressive, but it's unnecessary and just makes your life 10x harder.  It's one of those nice things about graze caps.  Now if I can just stop screwing up I should have a 62-63m run soon...

Easy - ReimuB
Chirpy13 - 55,863,640 - C - Screenshot

:<

Easy - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 59,338,860 - C - Screenshot - Replay

I really am more comfortable with Marisa... Everything went so smoothly this run, feels nice :>
« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 02:51:25 AM by ♥♥♥東方Hugger♥♥♥ »

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2013, 07:28:27 AM »
Extra - MarisaA
Zil - 78,246,270 - C - Screen1 Screen2

The second screenshot shows it was Marisa, at least. I guess I can't actually prove it was MarisaA though. I felt like playing this for some reason and just gave it a few tries. A good run, with no unplanned deaths/bombs, though item collecting on the boss was bad. Could be much better. My dream bonus was also one level below max since I got very unlucky with the last item appearing just as I suicided. Still got the maximum clear bonus though, but the items at least would have been worth more. I'm not sure if I should work in one more suicide, but I doubt it. Need to practice the boss and cross my fingers.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2013, 01:27:03 AM »
Updated.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2013, 05:04:28 AM »
Hard - ReimuA
Karisa - 96,136,420 - 6 - Screenshot


It would have been a letter score, except this happened. Still above 90m, so I'll post it.

Hard - ReimuA
Karisa - 98,644,260 - C - Screen1 Screen2


Getting closer. I cleared this time, but low bullet cancel bonuses on all of the first four bosses cost me around 4m total.

Hard - ReimuA
Karisa - 100,687,310 - C - Replay

And here it is. Still some noticeable mistakes though. Not sure if my next LLS goal will be to improve this, or go for Normal/Lunatic. Or maybe try for actual consistency at the Elly supergraze.

Extra - ReimuA
Karisa - 78,308,100 - C - Replay

Well this was unexpected. See the video description for my comments.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2013, 06:06:05 AM by Karisa »

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2013, 08:55:52 PM »
Update checkpoint.
Let's fight.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2013, 03:03:25 AM »
Normal - ReimuA
Karisa - 91,536,580 - C - Replay

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2013, 03:28:38 PM »
Update checkpoint.
Let's fight.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #54 on: July 16, 2013, 03:20:36 PM »
Normal - Reimu A
Gray - 54,071,380 - Replay
I only hope this isn't too big of a train wreck of a replay.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2013, 01:28:19 PM »
Update checkpoint.
Let's fight.

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2013, 02:00:03 AM »
Extra - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 74,771,180 - C - Screenshot

Placeholder score.  Died on Gengetsu's second.  A bit of bad luck and a bit of bad reading on my part.  Died again on final with a bomb in stock.  Pressed bomb too late :<.  Probably would have been 77m give or take without that second death.  I don't really like posting 2 miss scores though so I'll update this later.  Also I think I need to stop following this route and think things through a bit more seriously, since there seems to be little more to gain from it if I do manage to hit 78.

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Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2013, 03:41:05 AM »
Aaand that's the last checkpoint. Somehow they ended up getting spread over the span of the day, but whatever. :V
Let's fight.

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2013, 06:35:15 AM »
Normal - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 104,127,820 - C - Screenshot


It's a PB but I'm pretty upset about how bad I did.  This could have been 110-112m or something if I didn't screw up on pretty much everything possible (lots of bad bomb timing, stupid deaths all over the place).  Also I think I need to raise my stream's audio quality, I never realized it was that bad

EDIT: Deleted the replay because I don't like it at all.  I'll post a video when I stop doing stupid things.

Normal - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 117,801,300 - C - Screenshot/Replay

15 minutes later my heart is still pounding.  Holy shit.  This beats Pietoro's score by 11.8m.  I'd like to improve Hard, but considering I've been playing like 50 hours over the last week just for this I don't think I want to add in harder survival with the same route yet.  Take it easy sleepy YuukaRun comments stuff on pastebin because spoilers and I'm not putting up a 600 word spoiler block.

Extra - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 78,697,460 - C - Screenshot/Replay


:>

Extra - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 78,989,230 - C - Screenshot


Died on Gengetsu's opener, bad cancel on first and fourth phases.

Extra - MarisaB
Chirpy13 - 79,182,030 - C - Screenshot/Replay

Broke 79m :D.  Screenshot is a bit messed up because I hit scroll lock instead of print screen and it did things.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2013, 02:06:42 AM by ♥♥♥東方Hugger♥♥♥ »

Re: 東方幻想郷 ~ Lotus Land Story
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2014, 02:36:23 PM »
Hard - ReimuA
Kino - 45,669,420 - C - Screenshot