Author Topic: Iku Quest Sedem: A Z-Machine Adventure (Read 58425 times)

UncertainJakutten · « **Reply #360 on:** December 30, 2010, 05:08:15 PM »

Well, see, usually the gods don't give items. Usually they heal you, make you full again, uncurse your stuff, things like that. Or smite you if you piss them off, of course.

This is a nice overview

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #361 on:** December 30, 2010, 05:23:59 PM »

Huh, interesting. Not a lot of that sounds terribly helpful for this situation, though.

UncertainJakutten · « **Reply #362 on:** December 30, 2010, 05:53:16 PM »

I would presume there are quest relevant equivalents.

EDIT: Have you all asked if The Dragon has done something specific to Iku's situation when she's prayed in the past?

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #363 on:** December 30, 2010, 06:01:45 PM »

I figured my previous question would cover that, but if you want to be sure, go ahead and ask. These last 24 hours have actually been our first foray into the prayer mechanics, I believe.

UncertainJakutten · « **Reply #364 on:** December 30, 2010, 06:06:19 PM »

Oh, right, I CAN do that :V

>Have we ever prayed to the Dragon before?
>Have we prayed while having immediate needs?
>Has The Dragon ever helped us immediately in response to a prayer?

Marokuu · « **Reply #365 on:** December 30, 2010, 06:15:34 PM »

>What's the spectre doing?
~~>"I REJECT YOU REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN!!!1!ONE!!"~~

DracoOmega · « **Reply #366 on:** December 30, 2010, 07:57:32 PM »

Ok, here's my off-the-wall idea. I had something specific in mind to ask The Dragon. I was going to ask it to essentially speak with her, and touch her as it touches us.

We can use only words to tell her the value of openness, and the error of her ways. Words are easy to ignore, if you're fixated on a particular perspective. But The Dragon can show her. It can share this feeling and mindset with her in a more direct and fundamentally intimate way than anything we can say. We've certainly tried.

Of course, there is a flipside to this: if The Dragon is with her, it will know her in a way that nearly no one else could. She will be exposed to it utterly, on a deep and fundamental level she may not even have imagined is possible. If this doesn't risk literally traumatizing her, I don't know what would. If the experience does not open her mind, I cannot even imagine the depth of her loathing for it having happened. That may end everything, right then and there.

I'm essentially hoping for the 'divine revelation' angle. There's certainly precedent for people's eyes having been open when touched by a god. Maybe it could even work with her?

Of course, this is all assuming The Dragon would do so in the first place, if we asked it of it.

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #367 on:** December 30, 2010, 08:01:50 PM »

I'm feeling pretty okay with this plan. The fundamental level of disagreement makes telling impossible (and her hatred and revulsion likely don't help matters), so showing is really the only thing left.

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #368 on:** December 30, 2010, 08:48:55 PM »

> What is standard form for praying?
> Did you expect to see this many inputs on the table when you woke up?

EDIT: Hah, Draco leaves right before Purvis shows up.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #369 on:** December 30, 2010, 09:27:09 PM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 04:24:49 PM

> How old are we, anyway?
> When we pray, do we pray for something specific, or merely for guidance?

>You are well into the triple digits, but not too close to the quadruple digits.
>You can pray for specific interventions, but whether you get it is based on need, how much you've bothered The Dragon lately versus how exemplary you've been in your duties and faith, and whether or not The Dragon itself thinks it's a good idea.

Quote from: UncertainKitten on December 30, 2010, 06:06:19 PM

>Have we ever prayed to the Dragon before?
>Have we prayed while having immediate needs?
>Has The Dragon ever helped us immediately in response to a prayer?

>You do so pretty frequently, but it's not generally to harass for favors so much as to give thanks.
>Yes.
>It has, though the results do not always turn up immediately.

Quote from: Okuurin on December 30, 2010, 06:15:34 PM

>What's the spectre doing?
~~>"I REJECT YOU REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN!!!1!ONE!!"~~

>She seems to be frowning at you and waiting for you to answer her.
~~>"Oh yeah well I reject your face! Fatty."~~

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 08:48:55 PM

> What is standard form for praying?
> Did you expect to see this many inputs on the table when you woke up?

>There isn't really a standard, but you have to make some outward form of devotion as well; you can't just hide it among normal activities. Well, you can, but not when asking for intervention.
>Makes an old Grinch's heart grow three sizes, it do.

>_

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #370 on:** December 30, 2010, 09:30:14 PM »

> What sort of outward form of devotion would be required in a case like this? Kneeling and putting our hands together, or is that too cliche?

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #371 on:** December 30, 2010, 09:35:00 PM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 09:30:14 PM

> What sort of outward form of devotion would be required in a case like this? Kneeling and putting our hands together, or is that too cliche?

>This could work. As could any number of meditative positions. The Dragon is more interested in purity of faith than correct of form, so the latter may follow the former.

>_

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #372 on:** December 30, 2010, 09:38:42 PM »

> So good and pure intentions are more important than anything else to the process?
> Do we send our message to The Dragon simple by thinking it and focusing really hard on that thought?

> Go back to the calm smile.
> "No, I believe I can offer something else."

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #373 on:** December 30, 2010, 09:43:55 PM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 09:38:42 PM

> So good and pure intentions are more important than anything else to the process?
> Do we send our message to The Dragon simple by thinking it and focusing really hard on that thought?

> Go back to the calm smile.
> "No, I believe I can offer something else."

>It does have to be vocalized, but faith and need are more important than procedure otherwise.
>"Okay?" says the Poltergeist.

>_

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #374 on:** December 30, 2010, 09:47:17 PM »

> Are there any prayerful and/or meditative positions where we keep our eyes open, or does vision distract too much?

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #375 on:** December 30, 2010, 10:08:14 PM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 09:47:17 PM

> Are there any prayerful and/or meditative positions where we keep our eyes open, or does vision distract too much?

>You may keep your eyes open.

>_

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #376 on:** December 30, 2010, 10:14:51 PM »

> Nod to the poltergeist.
> Kneel and put our hands together. Bow our head a bit as well, but enough to keep some part of the poltergeist's lower body in our field of vision. We don't need to be focusing on her, just have her visible, so that if she makes any significant moves, we will be able to see them.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #377 on:** December 30, 2010, 10:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 10:14:51 PM

> Nod to the poltergeist.
> Kneel and put our hands together. Bow our head a bit as well, but enough to keep some part of the poltergeist's lower body in our field of vision. We don't need to be focusing on her, just have her visible, so that if she makes any significant moves, we will be able to see them.

>"What are you doing?" asks the poltergeist. She shifts her balance a bit, but not in any way that's threatening. You can still see her feet and legs.

>_

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #378 on:** December 30, 2010, 10:36:03 PM »

> "Helping, as best I know how."

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #379 on:** December 30, 2010, 10:57:28 PM »

Have a prayer written up, but I need to take a shower first since we're leaving for a while later tonight.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #380 on:** December 30, 2010, 10:58:53 PM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 10:36:03 PM

> "Helping, as best I know how."

>She doesn't say anything, but you can feel the weight of suspicion on in her gaze even if you can't see it.

>_

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #381 on:** December 30, 2010, 11:04:08 PM »

> Deep breath.
> Focus our empathy for the Brocken Spectre's life situation and how cruel her own misguided truths are to her.
> Concentrate on whatever else we need to for the prayer process.
> Pray!
> "O August One, I am in the presence of one who has never known the joy of love and friendship, of camaraderie and sharing. One whose life truths tell her that her very existence is an act of depravity, life truths that are derived from a chain of the unfortunate mistakes of others. One who holds that social self-exposure is an inherently disgusting thing. My skills and knowledge are inadequate to help her understand these joys, to experience and appreciate all the happiness they bring. I beg you, O August One, to help her where I could not, to help her see, to help her know the true joy that the sharing of the self with others can bring."

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #382 on:** December 30, 2010, 11:17:35 PM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 30, 2010, 11:04:08 PM

> Deep breath.
> Focus our empathy for the Brocken Spectre's life situation and how cruel her own misguided truths are to her.
> Concentrate on whatever else we need to for the prayer process.
> Pray!
> "O August One, I am in the presence of one who has never known the joy of love and friendship, of camaraderie and sharing. One whose life truths tell her that her very existence is an act of depravity, life truths that are derived from a chain of the unfortunate mistakes of others. One who holds that social self-exposure is an inherently disgusting thing. My skills and knowledge are inadequate to help her understand these joys, to experience and appreciate all the happiness they bring. I beg you, O August One, to help her where I could not, to help her see, to help her know the true joy that the sharing of the self with others can bring."

>You pray for guidance. As you do, you can feel The Dragon's gave upon you. It is distant, nothing like being in its presences properly. Then you feel a single impulse within you; not quite a word, not quite an emotion. It settles on you like a a shawl coming into place, emanating into your heart. It is a solitary concept, and you feel that you can understand well what is being expressed.
>Need.
>You no longer feel its presence, but you feel it is satisfied with you.

>_

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #383 on:** December 30, 2010, 11:38:34 PM »

Satisfied? Oh dear, that could have gone better.

So, need. Off the top of my head, this sounds like we need to delve into life's requirements and show that they could not have come about without social interaction. I can't think about it much deeper than that, though, since we're getting packed up to take off.

Kilgamayan · « **Reply #384 on:** December 31, 2010, 12:46:16 AM »

Pretty much gotta go now. Enjoy Wacko until Saturday night.

> Look up. How is the poltergeist faring?

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #385 on:** December 31, 2010, 12:55:43 AM »

Quote from: Kilgamayan on December 31, 2010, 12:46:16 AM

> Look up. How is the poltergeist faring?

>She is definitely watching you closely, but doesn't seem to have been harmed or have made a particularly shift in emotions.

>_

Suwako Moriya · « **Reply #386 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:11:19 AM »

> Huh. Did she not hear us, then?
> Stand back up.
> Put the soft smile back on.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #387 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:28:42 AM »

Quote from: Suwa Klaus on December 31, 2010, 04:11:19 AM

> Huh. Did she not hear us, then?
> Stand back up.
> Put the soft smile back on.

>Either she did not hear you, or really didn't understand what you were doing.
>You stand again and smile. "Well?" she says.

>_

Suwako Moriya · « **Reply #388 on:** December 31, 2010, 04:47:27 AM »

> "I did not hear what I expected to hear, but I heard what I was supposed to hear."
> "I do thank you for your patience on this matter, by the way. However much it may be born of hoping I fall flat on my face."

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #389 on:** December 31, 2010, 05:06:38 AM »

Quote from: Suwa Klaus on December 31, 2010, 04:47:27 AM

> "I did not hear what I expected to hear, but I heard what I was supposed to hear."
> "I do thank you for your patience on this matter, by the way. However much it may be born of hoping I fall flat on my face."

>She frowns. "I'm about to move on, to be frank."

>_