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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #90 on: November 17, 2017, 09:28:40 AM »
Steam Cloud support confirmed.
Very likely done just through Steam Auto Cloud targeting the game's AppData folder, considering that stuff is what's being synced.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #92 on: November 17, 2017, 03:44:44 PM »
The game uses Steam DRM, and so isn't supported by thcrap yet. We are currently working on it.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2017, 03:57:14 PM »
Currently 87 on the best-sellers list with over 400 reviews, a big chunk of them being in Chinese.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2017, 04:40:06 PM »
Now it's on the 5th on global sale and has overwhelmingly positive reviews. Hope this helps more people notice the game.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #95 on: November 17, 2017, 05:02:54 PM »
This has something a little meatier in that he is basically giving the OK for Touhou fangames to be added to Steam.

Oof, get ready for a flood of westerners with low-quality products trying to make a quick buck off the touhou name.

I suppose it's worth it if we get access to some of the good stuff, though.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #96 on: November 17, 2017, 05:10:15 PM »
Oof, get ready for a flood of westerners with low-quality products trying to make a quick buck off the touhou name.

I suppose it's worth it if we get access to some of the good stuff, though.
I'll suffer through some nonsense to get Koumajou on steam for sure.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #97 on: November 17, 2017, 05:30:28 PM »
Last I heard, Frontier Aja disbanded some time ago. I don't know if there are any people left in place to legally do that.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #98 on: November 17, 2017, 05:45:47 PM »
Bought my copy and left a good review, that's the best I can do for now.
The fact that the game is trending on Steam is amazing though.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #99 on: November 17, 2017, 06:20:53 PM »
i wonder if we'll ever see danmakufu fangames on steam lmao. that would be a hilarious meme
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #100 on: November 17, 2017, 07:07:47 PM »
i wonder if we'll ever see danmakufu fangames on steam lmao. that would be a hilarious meme
danmakufu "fangame" with steam workshop support would be a sight to behold.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #101 on: November 17, 2017, 11:58:38 PM »
Steam review that made me laugh a little:

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2017, 03:17:34 AM »
Oof, get ready for a flood of westerners with low-quality products trying to make a quick buck off the touhou name.

I suppose it's worth it if we get access to some of the good stuff, though.
Still gotta get a license first, probably through Mediascape.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2017, 07:33:46 AM »
Oh, you do? Well, things should be fine then.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #104 on: November 19, 2017, 03:58:20 AM »

Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2017, 10:12:29 AM »
Well, the hype machine is still going on and all. Guess we have to wait for a few week before it ran off.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #106 on: November 19, 2017, 05:33:45 PM »
I didn't notice until the ResetERA thread that ZUN talked about the fan translation patches in the IGN interview.
I'm sure it was probably mentioned somewhere in the thread, but I don't remember.
Still interesting to me that ZUN has some doubt with the professional translators, considering the fate of Forbidden Scrollery right now.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #107 on: November 19, 2017, 07:39:05 PM »
Thcrap support is up. Nice.
No Steam controller support, though.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #108 on: November 20, 2017, 06:17:36 AM »
"Overall reviews: Overwhelmingly Positive"

Man, people do love their Touhou, don't they?
The price is also surprisingly affordable, which is a big YASSS for me.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #109 on: November 20, 2017, 07:28:38 AM »
It's only like, 2 days or so you know?

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #110 on: November 20, 2017, 10:39:25 AM »
also keep in mind a significant portion of this consumer base is chinese, they have a far larger fanbase than we do and just about everyone i've talked to that i know from china are very enthusiastic about the release.

example thread that my chinese friend has made over on steam
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #111 on: November 20, 2017, 07:02:17 PM »
It is quite the spectacle that Touhou is the highest rated game on Steam at the moment.
On the other hand, with how fanbases can get (on Steam in particular), this could turn ugly potentially.
I'm cautiously optimistic.  On the bright side though, this further increases the chances of past games on Steam which is more than welcome.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #112 on: November 20, 2017, 07:44:28 PM »
It is true that it has a very high rating right now, but those numbers still need time to settle down and stabilize a bit. Unlike the other games that have been sitting on the list for a very long time and were subject to the opinions of a very wide range of people, this game is still mostly being reviewed by people who were already Touhou fans.

The number of people who are finding this game on their own right now is quite vastly outnumbered by the people who have been wanting Touhou to get on Steam for years. Because of that the reviews are almost entirely positive, so it'll stay at or near 99% until more people start noticing it. It's at the top right now because that's just how the system works.

After the initial hype wave and the flood of one-liner-upvote reviews dies down a bit, I expect it to drop down a bit once more people start noticing it. I'm not saying anything for or against the quality of the game of course, but you have to admit the score is a bit inflated right now. If most of the people who know about it yet are the people who already like it, the score will be nearly flawless, is what I'm trying to say.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #113 on: November 20, 2017, 07:53:00 PM »
On the other hand, with how fanbases can get (on Steam in particular), this could turn ugly potentially.

As if toxic newcomers are anything new for WTC. Many places have seen their share of drama and stood.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #114 on: November 20, 2017, 08:12:32 PM »
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As if toxic newcomers are anything new for WTC. Many places have seen their share of drama and stood.

I suppose so.  I'm moreso worried about Touhou getting a bad rep from haters more than anything.  But that also doesn't really matter too much.

Rei Scarlette is totally right though.
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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #115 on: November 21, 2017, 12:53:21 AM »
The playing time shown don't help either. Most of them never passed an hour, despite the time to actually finished the game on Normal would be at least Triple that. It's still really early so I hoped its heedless paranoid, but this disjointed between the actual time to play the game, and the time people already like and actually played the damn thing before, and probably only played for a short time due to the hype and support, would jarred both hardcore and casual gamer new to this, if this keep going on.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #116 on: November 21, 2017, 01:11:31 AM »
Touhou already has a bad reputation among haters though, especially in the western shoot-em up community, due to it's lack of polish both in gameplay and presentation. That said there's a good number of players who are still able to like Touhou alongside more polished titles such as Crimzon Clover and most arcade titles, and if "haters" wanted to make a negative impact they'd already have done so. The most likely scenario is that the future of the series on Steam will be decided primarily on the eastern audience's reception, and so far I see no signs of it dropping a significant degree.

The playing time shown don't help either. Most of them never passed an hour, despite the time to actually finished the game on Normal would be at least Triple that. It's still really early so I hoped its heedless paranoid, but this disjointed between the actual time to play the game, and the time people already like and actually played the damn thing before, and probably only played for a short time due to the hype and support, would jarred both hardcore and casual gamer new to this, if this keep going on.

Touhou, like most shmups, takes only 30-45 mins to credit-feed a bad ending. Most people do not care about earning a 1cc (or don't understand the importance of it); instead they credit-feed arcade-style games once and never touch them again. These people then tend to feel ripped off for spending $15 on a sub-hour game and leave a negative review. I know this because it's happened with a lot of shmups released on Steam over the last few years. The fact is, though, that these people tend to be in the vast minority and the games themselves tend to get good reviews overall.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #117 on: November 21, 2017, 04:36:33 AM »
I'm not sure why this isn't immediately obvious, but many people playing an hour or less before reviewing have likely already played the game previously. You can't judge anyone by how much time they've put into this version when another has already existed for months.

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #118 on: November 21, 2017, 07:38:55 AM »
It's funny Drake, I swore I mentioned the fact that many of the Eastern fans likely have already bought the physical version, but re-reading my post there is no mention. Great example of over-editing a post before submission.  :derp:

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Re: Two main Touhou games announced for Steam release!
« Reply #119 on: November 21, 2017, 09:56:52 AM »
Most of them never passed an hour, despite the time to actually finished the game on Normal would be at least Triple that.
A run of the game only takes ~20-25 minutes, somewhere between that range. I'll be generous and say 25 minutes.

If you're replaying the game on different difficulties, characters, or delving into practice/spells, then yes the playtime would be higher, but I wouldn't expect most people to play the game for more than a few hours at most. Besides, as Drake mentioned, most people of that category have already played the game before, regardless of the means. There's a portion of people who bought the game just as a means of "support", since means to do so is pretty difficult before this, so those people are also included in the <1 hour club.

Personally I just got my lunatic 1cc and left, ages ago. I did also play around with the game a bit, tweaking with mods and game files and stuff, but otherwise I'd say I didn't spend much time on this game at all. Compare to people like Yatsuzume who took the time to get LNNN, or a bunch of friends who focused on scoring extra or other difficulties, which definitely clocks up quite a bit of hours.
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