In terms of the Sodium case, I honestly have nothing to say other than that I honestly believed he was misguided Town as always. Given the lack of a Doc CC until after I went to bed, I saw no reason to lynch him first and foremost for anything other than information.
Roukan, given you believe ScumEdible/TownSodium, can you explain why Edible chose "No Result" over "Sodium is telling the truth"?
Scum!Edible would have wanted his magical Tenshi role to look authentic, and just saying 'oh yeah it works he's town' would have been too easy to fake. Saying that some scum role had blocked his action, while still claiming credit for having cleared Sodium, would have been easier to believe in my opinion (mainly because it requires more effort than simply stating the obvious).
Current opinions:
KGH - Oh God, where do I begin. At best, he's the new Wrathie, a stupid misguided Townie; at worst, he's a horrendous newbscum. Given that both Zengar and Sodium tried to get him lynched, though, I'm leaning more towards Town on this one.
K4U - Tunneled KGH D1, attacked him D2, clearing Sodium for more or less the same reasons I did. Tunneling the same guy and ignoring a Mafioso lynch on one day is questionable; two days in a row, it's outright suspicious.
Kiro - Voted Zengar pretty early on D1, and jumped on Sodium quickly before switching to KGH and back to Sodium. Honestly, I'm having trouble finding anything to disagree with in terms of his content, but that's because he's, well, Kiro. >_>
Rou - Probably misguided Town, was the swing vote on Zengar D1Pesco - Okay seriously where the hell have you been
Was on Zengar D1, but chose Seniwac over Sodium on a hilariously terrible piece of probability. Also not posting anywhere near as much as he usually does. Neutral read at best.
Serp - Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Okay, went for KGH pretty heavily on D1, not switching to Zengar even after the latter started a (fairly terrible) attack on him. Goes after KGH again Day 2, and waits until nearly the end of the phase (and well after Sodium's claim) to CC. He's the only one to bring up the possibility that Umu was the doc who got janned.
This is really a case of paranoia more than anything, because Serp
could potentially have claimed after knowing that Umu was the Janned Doc. Dangerous call, but I don't know if it's safe to ignore it. For now, reading as Town, but I'm paying attention to those night actions.
Kilga - Commandeered the Sodium lynch D2. Has been asking questions and generally been very helpful from more or less the start of the game. Very strong Town read.
Alice - Lists Sodium as obvscum on D2, really doesn't say anything besides that. As little as Alice ended up saying, I'll give him credit for actually hitting the mark. Slight Town read, but I'd like to see more activity.
Batman Edible - Well, we have the big bluff on D2 which ended in him clearing Sodium as Town until Serp's claim, and really not a lot of useful content before that. I'd prefer if rather than pulling gambits like that he actually just gave some useful posts. Neutral read.
UK - Again, on Zengar D1, on Sodium D2. Not really much to fault here. Town read.
Now, over N2 I decided to do a little research and look over K4U's Mafiascum game, where she was a goon.
I hadn't thought about PB's posts like that. I'll have to look at the stuff he posted before I make any judgements though.
Based on what I read on the site PB posted he probably is telling the truth. I couldn't see any of the games, but this image and a few other comments made in the Wiki made it look like role-heavy games were more common. The fact that he wanted to talk about PRs feels a bit less off to me now.
All I can really say is that he sounds like a really, really timid player. I see post 46 as consistant with that and while it feels weird I think it's just a null tell.
These all occured during the first half of day 1, and it wasn't until later in the day that she finally started aiming questions and suspicions at her scumbuddy (and even then, only as the potential buddy of the Townie she ended up voting for). Her own analysis on her play reads:
By the sounds of it I did reasonably well for most of the day until the end there. I didn't really want to buss Arxym/PO (hence my attacks on DDD, I was hoping you guys would go for a DDD lynch instead), but I couldn't find anyone better to attack and I was afraid that I would look really weird if I attacked no one. So yeah, I kind of panicked.
Putting all of this together, I'm willing to come to the conclusion that
Scum!K4U is very, very bad at bussing. Consider also that she's missed both scum wagons thus far.
435 is setting off all sorts of alarms.
The claim itself and his comments after sound genuine, and while I don't think the case on him is bad I still have a hard time seeing him as scum. I don't think he faked that "I didn't know scum could daytalk" thing because he asked about something that the mod had stated in the sign up topic, and then he went on to misread that Zengar was at L-2 and not L-3. The last of which actually made him look worse, so I don't think he faked it.
Firstly, the 'it makes sense but I don't agree with it' feels slightly like cheerleading, which Sodium just proved is probably a scumtell. >_>
Secondly, using 'he misread Zengar's vote' as a defense makes no sense because she even admits it makes him look worse, yet not being able to read apparently clears him? The reason I held faith in the daytalk point was because I thought that if he was scum daytalk would be pretty obvious, i.e. it's a mistake
that Town would be more likely to make. I don't understand where K4U's basis is on this defense at all - he made a mistake, therefore he's Town?
##Vote: Kitten4U
