5th Touhou Nico Dousai - Touhou Popularity Contest - Results are in!

[AnonymousPondScum]

Any sexual promiscuity on Sanae's part is purely far-fetched fan conjecture that basically went human girl on the outside = schoolgirl = OBVIOUSLY HOT BECAUSE WE'RE HORNY OTAKU = SLUT. It's a dumb meme and seeing it used in some fanart celebrating Sakuya's return...Rubbed me the wrong way.

I like Sakuya *and* Sanae, for the record, though I admittedly don't mind Sanae taking a break from the playable roster. I just wish it hadn't been so sudden.

Let us be more dignified than name calling. I've talked people out of bringing up some fairly incendiary topics/comparisons in Touhou discussions elsewhere and I think it was for the best for all parties involved.

[tohosubs]

By the way, the Japanese Touhou community on G+ is organizing its first (probably very small-scale) popularity poll: http://nazr.in/5D5
7/7-7/21. Result to be announced 8/4.

In case the organizer hasn't fixed them, the last four questions are supposed to mean the following:
"What is your favorite storyline in Touhou, among official works? e.g. Imperishable Night, Silent Sinner in Blue."
"What is your favorite storyline in Touhou, among fanworks?"
"How did you find out about Touhou Project?"
"If you have any last comments about this poll, please enter them here."

[Aqua Soo]

tbh, I like every character. I just prefer some a bit more than others. :3 I understand some people have dislikes and stronger preferences, but there's no need to argue.

[Tiamat]

I think the only Touhou character that's canonically displayed any confirmable signs of a sex drive "on-screen" is Reimu, hilariously enough (when she commented in SSiB that she was interested in summoning a god because he was said to be quite handsome). Anything else that could remotely have anything confirmable to do with love (such as characters who had spouses and children) all happened off screen.

[Darkness1]

tbh, I like every character. I just prefer some a bit more than others. :3 I understand some people have dislikes and stronger preferences, but there's no need to argue.

Pretty much the same for me. If there is something I hate, it is some of the characters from the "popular" fanon view. I were close to hating characters like yuuka/flandre/kaguya just because of their dumbed down fanon versions.

For the other discussion; embers of love anyone? :V

[Critz]

Sanae being higher than the last (official) Popularity Poll, if only a place higher is rather comforting. She's still well-liked despite her disapperance  :3. I miss her #2 days though.

Too bad Alice isn't #2 anymore either, but I guess it's Koishi's time to shine - she's actually pretty interesting now, being crucial to HM and all. I'm more than satisfied with Youmu, Udonge and Kogasa too (sucker for moe).
Scarlets' place was obvious considering their doujin backing. Now, if someone could only explain what is it with Wriggle being so low? She's full forty places below Rumia despite being IMO far more memorable and actually pretty nice and hardworking (the bug service campaign)  :derp:. Yuuka staying so high despite her repulsive personality kind of puzzles me too.

[Darkness1]

Yuuka staying so high despite her repulsive personality kind of puzzles me too.

Because she's Youkai moe~

Seriously though, the personality part is subjective. Most people may see Yuuka as a brutal sadistic monster, but I would rather see her as a peaceful flower lady, being one with nature but with her ancient and powerful youkai side hidden inside. Just being powerful may be a reason for some to like her, after all. (She also seems to enjoy annoying others or being creepy, but that's another story.)

[commandercool]

Yuuka staying so high despite her repulsive personality kind of puzzles me too.

She's arguably the closest thing we have to a villain. Some people like villains. I do. Hell, I wish she was more evil and around more often. Then she'd be higher on my list.

[Starxsword]

Scarlets' place was obvious considering their doujin backing. Now, if someone could only explain what is it with Wriggle being so low? She's full forty places below Rumia despite being IMO far more memorable and actually pretty nice and hardworking (the bug service campaign)  :derp:.

Rumia's the first boss in the Windows series. That should score some points.

[Desu_Cake]

Why has this thread become "Why is this character so popular despite the fact that I don't completely love them therefore they are disgusting and overrated Ugh" so much?

[Drake]

Why has this thread become "Why is this character so popular despite the fact that I don't completely love them therefore they are disgusting and overrated Ugh" so much?

does this really require an answer

[Gpop]

Y'all know Koishi should've been #1 fuk dat slut Raymoo

[Sage Ω (Ultima)]

Y'all know Koishi should've been #1

Wrong.

[MewMewHeart]

Everybody knows that Reimu is #1 due to she's the main character!  :trollface:

Spoiler:

Nope, Reisen for the win!

[Sage Ω (Ultima)]

Nope, Reisen for the win!

This woman knows what she's talking about.

[MewMewHeart]

This man knows what he's talking about.

I'm a girl.  :derp:

[Sage Ω (Ultima)]

Let me just edit my post then, sorry. The typical internet rule is that if you don't know the gender assume it's male.

[Zil]

fuk dat slut Raymoo

Gladly

Let me just edit my post then, sorry. The typical internet rule is that if you don't know the gender assume it's male.

Or check the profile.

[Gpop]

Right. Even better then Reisen.

ftfy

BV

[Firestorm29]

Never really understood why people see Kokoro as creepy...

There's worse out there.

[MewMewHeart]

Kokoro in my opinion is cute due to the fact she uses masks to express her feelings which makes her more interesting.

@Firestorm29: Damn you nostalgia!

[Darkness1]

Everybody knows that Reimu is #1 due to she's the main character!  :trollface:

Never heard of a better reason. :V

Additionally, my special Yuuka ideas in the comment section: www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4gaWY5THh4&lc=oRmGROe9JPUML2fy_1PmP7wC_tnW5qiDRKiURUnz9cc

[SatorKoi57]

I'm sorry to bring this up again, but it just made me made when I heard it.

Sanae replaced Mokou, Kaguya, Nitori and Wriggle (All of which were scrapped) in Hisoutenko and was made weak because "weak characters are funny".

Spoiler alert:

THEY'RE FUCKING NOT

Merely just one of the reasons I call Sanae a "slut". Plus it killed my love for Cirno for good. She is pretty much barely makes it off my Top 30 Touhou characters (She's number 30 now).

[Sagus]

Source? Like, a good source. An interview transcript. A blog post. Not "I heard it from somewhere".

Also? Replacing characters you wanted to be in a game does not makes her a "slut".
So it's still an unbelievable immature, nonsensical, and just plain stupid thing to call her.

[Drake]

Sanae replaced Mokou, Kaguya, Nitori and Wriggle (All of which were scrapped) in Hisoutenko and was made weak because "weak characters are funny".

Merely just one of the reasons I call Sanae a "slut". Plus it killed my love for Cirno for good. She is pretty much barely makes it off my Top 30 Touhou characters (She's number 30 now).

I can guarantee that you are making things up and/or received this blatantly absurd information from people who were making things up.
Even if you weren't, it's totally nonsensical reasoning. Like wow.

[Darkness1]

Sanae replaced Mokou, Kaguya, Nitori and Wriggle (All of which were scrapped) in Hisoutenko and was made weak because "weak characters are funny".

Merely just one of the reasons I call Sanae a "slut". Plus it killed my love for Cirno for good. She is pretty much barely makes it off my Top 30 Touhou characters (She's number 30 now).

1. I have heard that rumor, but I don't think it was that Sanae "replaced" them. I can't really see Sanae as not being in unl, as she played quite a large role in it.
2. I haven't looked into the unl balancing, but was Sanae really that weak?
3. I don't really understand the last part. Why would Sanae stop you from liking Cirno?

[Critz]

Ugh... I usually don't respond to this kind of idiocy to avoid feeding the trolls and fanning the flames, but what the hell are you talking about?

Sanae is not a weak character in any way in canon - as of 12.3 she's one of the girls to have possibly defeated Byakuren. She *is* low tier in Soku, but that's the problem of Tasofro balancing and she's still very much viable (if one of the harder girls to master).

As for these characters not being in 12.3, I quote the wiki:

ZUN said in a radio interview that Wriggle Nightbug and Nitori Kawashiro were originally slated to appear in the game, but were scrapped due to time restraints. Kaguya Houraisan and Fujiwara no Mokou were also considered, but it was decided that they were too strong. [1] Instead, Twilight Frontier decided to put in mostly weak characters, as they would humorously face off against the very powerful characters featured in Immaterial and Missing Power (most every mainstream character was featured there). Sanae Kochiya was added instead of these possibilities, and perhaps made as weak as she is on purpose.

They didn't get scrapped because of Sanae, but because of "time restraints" and "being too strong". These are idiotic reasons, true. The "weak characters" they meant are Cirno and China, as Suwako and Okuu are even higher on the list than Sanae, so as far as I'm concerned, that was just an excuse for Tasofro's lazyness. :wat:  So please, stop attacking Sanae for every character that could have appeared instead of her, because that's how ZUN planned it and because it's idiotic. Hell, Sanae herself did not appear in HM despite it being the one game where she should be a heroine.

I also don't get why would you hate Cirno because of Sanae. These two have exactly one interaction, the outcome of which depends on who are you playing as. Please elaborate.
And the top 30 is still pretty high, considering the number of characters at the moment is well above a hundred. Her being named a slut is a result of massive trolling and fanon idiocy, because she was conveniently an easy scapegoat by the time UFO got announced. I don't know if you want to be associated with the worst of 4chan shitposters, but real fans don't  take kindly to this kind of stuff.

[Fonzi]

Well, of course Reimu would win time and time again. It's a popularity poll. If someone asks who's the iconic character of the series, it can only be the main one (or two). Apparently, people grew to like the new HM characters really quickly. IMO, the people who organized the poll should have at least waited for the full release of DDC. I wonder if the new characters in the later stages would score some of the higher ranks. I personally don't feel too inclined to declare my love for new characters too quickly. It's just like a fad that comes and goes as soon as the fans calm down from thier euphoria of being introduced to a new character. I assume Kokoro or Koishi won't score so high next year.
Seeing Satorkoi's opinions made me chuckle, as it was more like a meme spam. And seriously, guys, what's with the "weaker character in Soku" crap? A character is only as good/as weak as the player controling her. If you suck, it's not Sanae's fault. Really.

[SatorKoi57]

I think Cirno was put in just BECAUSE she is considered to be a weak youkai. And that's bullshit, though on the plus side, we did get pretty nice Cirno artwork and spritework from Tasofore.

[Sagus]

Wasn't the "too strong" justification for Kaguya and Mokou's thing related to balancing issues instead of lore? As in, they run out of time to properly balance a moveset for them?

Granted, the game isn't that well-balanced anyway.