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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #300 on: August 05, 2014, 10:32:24 PM »
Looks like our MC isn't just a gruntbot. I like that! (I know highlander-tan was supposed to be player surrogate, but)

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #301 on: August 06, 2014, 08:28:02 AM »
Looks like our MC isn't just a gruntbot. I like that! (I know highlander-tan was supposed to be player surrogate, but)

he's also voiced by midorikawa :v

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #302 on: August 06, 2014, 09:54:50 AM »
Sadly it looks like Grimoires are back; but it remains to be seen if the system is tuned up at all to be better (It could be a great system, but there's far too much of an RNG quotient for it to be practical)

also fuck yeah Prince/Princess coming back they're my second favourite EO3 class (after Wildling - call them useless and I will cut you show you a wildling soloing Abyssal God)

also you realise this means Cherry Tree Bridge getting remade oh my god also a not-shitty arrange of Shiver finally

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #303 on: August 06, 2014, 11:51:16 PM »
Personally I'm excited to see an expanded story for EO2. I thought the game had quite a nice little story, for what it was, and was intrigued by all the parts it left to the imagination. Can't wait to see what Atlus does with this remake, and what answers they give us. :3
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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #304 on: August 07, 2014, 12:10:18 AM »
It just hit me that a revised game likely means an even harder Ur-Child.

I never even made it that far in the original (even if I did beat maingame) :ohdear:

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #305 on: August 07, 2014, 03:20:11 AM »
I never actually played past stratum 1 completion in EO2, and even when I watched Krimmydoodle stream it, he pretty much skipped the game via how insanely broken Hexer Revenge was. So, playing EO2DX will be pretty cool.

The story party is... probably going to be static again, it seems. Buh. But, at least this one looks like it's more interesting. Although it's probably not going to let you class change to Beast so uh, crap ;_; I have a feeling the party recruiting a pet isn't going to be likely due to CUTSCENES where everyone would need to be there.

But yeah, like, I'm pretty interested in how they're going to rebalance Beast. EO2 overall could really use a rebalance since it's classes were a mix of really shitty and broken as fuck. I'm -very- unexcited about grimoires returning though... I hope they get a big overhaul in how they work.

Also mildly curious if Highlander is going to be added to the class roster (for classic mode/class change), since they're supposed to come from the area where EO2 takes place. But, since I don't particularly care either way, W/E. Slightly more curious if Princess/?????? will be locked until finishing story mode still but I bet they will be.
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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #306 on: August 07, 2014, 07:59:49 AM »
It just hit me that a revised game likely means an even harder Ur-Child.

I never even made it that far in the original (even if I did beat maingame) :ohdear:
EO2 postgame was kind of a bitch because everything was quest-locked to progress anywhere... so I didn't complete it either.

That said, Ur-Child's reputation is as either "reasonable" or "the hardest boss in the series" depending on when you fought him.  In one of day/night, he followed an almost entirely predictable pattern of actions that made it possible to deal with him... in the other, it caused him to throw AI out the window and just random-select every action, including his "you needed to Protector Force skill on this turn or you die".

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #307 on: August 07, 2014, 08:46:54 AM »
EO2 postgame was kind of a bitch because everything was quest-locked to progress anywhere... so I didn't complete it either.

That said, Ur-Child's reputation is as either "reasonable" or "the hardest boss in the series" depending on when you fought him.  In one of day/night, he followed an almost entirely predictable pattern of actions that made it possible to deal with him... in the other, it caused him to throw AI out the window and just random-select every action, including his "you needed to Protector Force skill on this turn or you die".

I will maintain that Night Ur-Child is still one of the most blood-pumping boss fights I will ever have had the misfortune pleasure of playing out. Repeatedly, because of the many, MANY wipes.

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #308 on: August 08, 2014, 11:59:19 PM »
While I enjoyed the EO2 post-game, I admit that Ur-Child came dangerously close to stymieing my 100% run permanently. Thankfully, there's a rather colorful way to cheese the fight involving
Spoiler:
3 low level landsknechts with just enough levels on them to max out counter, allowing them to counter Ur-child's attacks for 8000 damage a piece courtesy of the protector force skill
. I'm rather sad it came to it in hindsight, but I'm sorry Atlus I am NOT grinding for weeks just to stand on even toes with a single boss. >:< Here's hoping the remake makes the fight more reasonable, or at least the grinding process faster.
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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #309 on: August 13, 2014, 08:23:03 PM »
Welp.

5 Medic Trip Report:  Victory.

Final subs and levels were M/B 63, M/L 63, M/B 60, M/R 63, M/A 63.  I forgot to check how long the battle took but I was able to take down the Bared Essence in a single go thanks to a hilariously lucky stun right before it tried to reform, immediately followed by my Hood Circle actually binding its head for the last two rounds.

God damn but this was stupid.  I have conquered.  Get rekt nerds!

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #310 on: August 14, 2014, 03:45:44 AM »
Congartulations!

(I should resume my 3 Dancer run by trying to beat the dragons)

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #311 on: August 15, 2014, 04:48:23 PM »
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I suppose for little kids, this could be a good difficulty...?
Or people like me who suck at games like this and keep deluding themselves into thinking they'll be any good at them.
I need an option, a reason, and some hope.

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #312 on: September 08, 2014, 10:15:31 PM »
oh god someone help me I beat eo4 with 5 runemasters

the final battle took fifteen turns

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :colonveeplusalpha:

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #313 on: September 09, 2014, 03:30:44 AM »
oh god someone help me I beat eo4 with 5 runemasters

the final battle took fifteen turns

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :colonveeplusalpha:
your damage output is insane though but I guess so's the damage intake

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #314 on: September 09, 2014, 10:47:58 PM »
your damage output is insane though but I guess so's the damage intake
yeah well I also beat all three dragons first try

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #315 on: September 12, 2014, 05:38:18 PM »
i just got EO4 in the nintendo eshop sale and my goodness the character models are cute

also i'm still giggling at my fortress named tessie, shortened from "testudo"

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #316 on: September 12, 2014, 08:14:20 PM »
Speaking of people just getting EOIV, someone please take my toys away before I hurt myself with them :ohdear:
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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #317 on: September 12, 2014, 08:19:54 PM »
that team is almost my team you'll be fine it's perfect for linksknechts so you're better than fine

but yes WELCOME TO EO4

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #318 on: September 12, 2014, 08:26:54 PM »
eo4 is awesome and you can do all kinds of crazy stuff with that

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #319 on: September 12, 2014, 08:30:44 PM »
I just got Untold as a gift

help

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #320 on: September 12, 2014, 09:02:01 PM »
I just got Untold as a gift

help
play standard unless you're familiar with EO games already seriously Expert is kind of teeth-pulling at a few points even as a series veteran

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #321 on: September 12, 2014, 09:14:48 PM »
play standard unless you're familiar with EO games already seriously Expert is kind of teeth-pulling at a few points even as a series veteran

oh
I jumped right into Expert because I thought it'd be fun
Um. It's hard.

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #322 on: September 12, 2014, 09:25:24 PM »
oh
I jumped right into Expert because I thought it'd be fun
Um. It's hard.
You might be able to pull it off, but Expert really expects you to know how to build characters and stuff.  You should be able to rotate back to Standard on the options screen though.

Also Classic or Story?

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #323 on: September 12, 2014, 09:40:16 PM »
Story.
Spoiler:
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I've gotten to the third stratum on Expert, so it's not like I don't dislike expert. Standard might be underwhelming as this point, I guess.

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #324 on: September 12, 2014, 10:44:48 PM »
I've gotten to the third stratum on Expert, so it's not like I don't dislike expert. Standard might be underwhelming as this point, I guess.
Ah, I thought you'd just picked it up.  You're probably fine then, although the third and especially fourth bosses are the hardest of the main story, I thought.

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #325 on: September 12, 2014, 11:09:12 PM »
Ah, I thought you'd just picked it up.  You're probably fine then, although the third and especially fourth bosses are the hardest of the main story, I thought.
They are, but hardly insurmountable.  I'd honestly recommend people stay on Expert for the Real Etrian Odyssey Fuck You Experience, standard is lame :V

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #326 on: September 19, 2014, 07:26:10 AM »
Does doing the "Story" mode in Untold mean I won't be able to choose my own party? And does skipping it mean I won't get any connecting story in the game?

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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #327 on: September 19, 2014, 08:19:45 AM »
Does doing the "Story" mode in Untold mean I won't be able to choose my own party? And does skipping it mean I won't get any connecting story in the game?
1. Yes, although once they hit level 30 you can Class Change (ala retire) them into classes of your choosing if you want.

2. No.  Classic Mode still has the story as told in the original EO1 (which some vastly prefer compared to Untold's), but you won't get all the extended story details (/rewrites in some cases) that Story mode got.  The major loss playing Classic is that you can't access Gladsheim, and if you don't play Story first you can't class change into Highlander/Gunner ; but to make up for it you have your own party selection and unlike EO1 Ronin/Hexer are immediately available as options so go nuts.


Oh, and speaking of things missing from Classic Mode, Famitsu has confirmed that EOU2:
A. has a classic mode
B. that will still contain all the new features being added to Untold 2's Story Mode (the new dungeon, city growth, etc.)
C. will also come with sixteen portraits per class (the same four designs, but there's variants for each design in different poses, etc.), and
D. will enable you to pick Beast and Princess right off the bat.

In other words EOU2 Classic will be a fully enhanced experience without any catches.
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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #328 on: September 19, 2014, 04:44:26 PM »
Will it come with multiple save slots? I don't remember if that was ever confirmed either way.
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Re: Etrian Odyssey Thread - This is not broccoli #ATLUS
« Reply #329 on: September 19, 2014, 05:36:31 PM »
Will it come with multiple save slots? I don't remember if that was ever confirmed either way.
I believe it was stated that there'd be extra save slots on the SD card.  The game card itself (physical copy) can only hold one but they're going to allow you to have extra saves on your SD, so yeah, that too.