Author Topic: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Horrible Puns.  (Read 7584 times)

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time!
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2012, 03:49:06 AM »
Ara. The results seem to align a bit with the poll we had some time ago regarding which faction we liked the most. Also, I wager some people at least noticed that there were 4 distinct kinds of questions.

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time!
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2012, 04:04:00 AM »
Ara. The results seem to align a bit with the poll we had some time ago regarding which faction we liked the most. Also, I wager some people at least noticed that there were 4 distinct kinds of questions.
I was not able to see that, though I did suspect that the survey was testing for shrine alignment. Other possibilities that crossed my mind were that it was somehow Haruhi-related - hence the questions about ESP, alien life forms, etc. - or that the survey responses didn't matter at all, and it was an eon8-ish thing to see how people respond to ambiguity or something.

What ruled the latter two out for me, and clinched the first, was the comment about how this was supposed to settle a debate about the community. That was the real tip-off. :justasplanned:

e: Looking over the questions again, I'm seeing some major pro-Myouren bias in this survey :v
« Last Edit: September 14, 2012, 04:19:44 AM by JT »

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2012, 04:16:31 AM »
I think I found which answers are mine (35) by looking at the time and the first few questions. It is interesting to see which ones got lots of "not sure" responses.

And I'm still not sure which group I ended up in, though I'm certain it wasn't hall of dreams.

Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2012, 04:23:13 AM »
I was reminded of Miko when I saw #14 in the survey (Religion has done more for social stability than governments.) since Miko was all about using Buddhism as a political tool. I feel kind of silly for not realizing that it was for something like this. :V

I think my answers are row #3 in the spreadsheet, given that I took it fairly early and I hit Not Sure on practically everything and never chose anything strongly (or strongle).
My results (+ for agree, - for disagree)
Moriya: +-++
Hakurei: -++++
Myouren: +-++-
Taoism: --+++
I think I ended up on the side of Hakurei Shrine, although I'd say I prefer the Taoists a lot more. :L

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2012, 04:29:56 AM »
Just to clear something up: results were gauged not just by whether or not someone agreed with a question, but whether they disagreed, too. I would not be surprised if questions aligned more heavily with one or more temples, despite a conscious effort to balance. And some questions might read as one temple to one person but another temple to another. Either way, that still leaves the choice to agree or disagree, and both counted towards how the response was aligned. That said, a greater number of questions aligned towards one or more temples probably did have some influence on results.

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2012, 04:31:43 AM »
Politics nothing, I'm going with whatever lets me hang with Byakuren all day erry day. :3

Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2012, 04:32:08 AM »
Yeah, I just realized that it's not all agreement that affects alignment since agreeing to #38a (Humanity is too industrialized) would directly contradict Moriya Shrine ideals.

How exactly should we go about checking our personal alignments?

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2012, 04:42:57 AM »
Just to clear something up: results were gauged not just by whether or not someone agreed with a question, but whether they disagreed, too. I would not be surprised if questions aligned more heavily with one or more temples, despite a conscious effort to balance. And some questions might read as one temple to one person but another temple to another. Either way, that still leaves the choice to agree or disagree, and both counted towards how the response was aligned. That said, a greater number of questions aligned towards one or more temples probably did have some influence on results.
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« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2012, 04:44:07 AM »
Don't listen to him! You're all being brainwashed by the Myouren media!

It's not brainwashing if you were willingly neck-deep in it to begin with! :getdown:

Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2012, 04:51:20 AM »
Oh god "(dis)agree" stopped looking like a word to my brain.

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2012, 04:52:22 AM »
I was asleep with illness before I found out this was a thing.

Oh well.

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2012, 05:42:24 AM »
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2012, 05:48:36 AM »
Fun fact: the only answer to #3 was "strongly disagree". The question would be fine if it had been "do you think there is intelligent life", not "do you think that it is a mathematical certainty", which from what I understand is false outright.

#52 reporting.

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2012, 05:50:36 AM »
Wait, how do we tell which # we were and what our final alignment was?

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #105 on: September 14, 2012, 05:58:12 AM »
Team Myouren represent. I hope Byakuren is the hugging sort!

She probably has a ''Cookies and Hugs'' friday thing.

Zil

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« Reply #106 on: September 14, 2012, 06:00:00 AM »
Wait, how do we tell which # we were and what our final alignment was?
by looking at the time and the first few questions.
That's how I found it anyway. Assuming you posted here just after submitting it, you should be able to use the time of the post to get a general idea, though you'll have to take time zones or something into consideration. Then just see which answers seem like yours. :V For example, so few people disagreed with number 3, but I knew I chose "strongly disagree," so that made it easy for me to find mine. (And yeah, taking the question literally, I think that is the definite "right answer." Rephrased like BT said, my answer would have been different.)

Oh god "(dis)agree" stopped looking like a word to my brain.
Oh man, I know what you mean. Starts to sound weird too if you say it to yourself.
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #107 on: September 14, 2012, 06:02:05 AM »
Fun fact: the only answer to #3 was "strongly disagree". The question would be fine if it had been "do you think there is intelligent life", not "do you think that it is a mathematical certainty", which from what I understand is false outright.

#52 reporting.

#3 was, as stated, one of the non-counting questions thrown in there to muddy the waters. It was not figured in with the results, so it didn't matter what was answered for that one.

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2012, 06:05:47 AM »
Ammy, could you expand a little more on how each question contributed to a person's temple alignment (like I don't know whether agreeing or disagreeing with a certain topic in a category would make me more Buddhist/Taoist)?

Edit:
Basically I'm asking how you took the responses and the categorized questions to arrive at the results.

For self-reference, I'm #40.
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2012, 06:07:43 AM »
I'm pretty sure I wound up being #82. Funny, that being my birth year and all... :]
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2012, 06:12:43 AM »
I took 'strongly __" as two strikes for/against a temple, with agree/disagree being one strike.

Myouren-8
Hakurei-3
Moriya-0
Miko & Company-0

I'm surprised there were no negatives, although I guess my counting could be off.

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #111 on: September 14, 2012, 06:13:44 AM »
Pretty sure I was number 2. So I get put with the best surfers in Gensokyo.



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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #112 on: September 14, 2012, 06:31:26 AM »
So I what's my prize for winning this?


Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #114 on: September 14, 2012, 09:08:15 AM »
if there's one thing i learned from this survey it's that i don't know myself well enough to figure out who i am without rigorous process of elimination

(#49 btw)

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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #115 on: September 14, 2012, 11:07:09 AM »
Ammy, could you expand a little more on how each question contributed to a person's temple alignment (like I don't know whether agreeing or disagreeing with a certain topic in a category would make me more Buddhist/Taoist)?

Sure. One example is #17, which states that sometimes violently overthrowing a government is justified. Strength of agreement with this one was Moriya, with strength of disagreement would be Myouren, while simple disgreement would be Hakurei. In this case, the majority of answers leaned towards fairly strong agreement, so the response to #17 was put under Moriya.

Again, to which temple agreement or disagreement with a statement aligned was a subjective measure, based on my understanding of canon. Your mileage may vary.
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2012, 01:12:08 PM »
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2012, 01:26:47 PM »
Stripping away the Touhou-themed factions, the results are rather pleasing. The more optimistic and idealistic egalitarian side clearly wins out over the more pessimistic and negative side based on the use of force.
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2012, 01:34:45 PM »
Ah, so understanding where you are still requires a good understanding of canon

Well looks like I won't know where I stand

I found my number based on the timestamp and the first few questions. #63, by the way.
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Re: [s]Survey[/s] Strongle Time! - Results Are In, Debriefing In Progress.
« Reply #119 on: September 14, 2012, 02:34:38 PM »
I am going to assume I fell into the Myouren Temple because of how I know my viewpoints are already.

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#78 over here for reference.

This was really interesting, Ammy. Both the results and people's responses before/after the whole thing was revealed.
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