Author Topic: Shadows Over Fuyuki - Fate/Zero season 2! (Read 20939 times)

Moerin · « **on:** April 07, 2012, 06:00:12 PM »

...It was either that or "The Call of Casterthulu", and I wasn't sure if that was snappy enough. >.>

So! Back to the Grail War, then! Anyone else looking forward to the concluding half of this?

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[purvis]Let's make this a better OP.[/purvis]

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Chaore · « **Reply #1 on:** April 07, 2012, 06:31:53 PM »

wait it's on already

YES

someone told me it'd be the 20th or something aaa ;w;

InfernalExuro · « **Reply #2 on:** April 07, 2012, 06:32:53 PM »

...Wait really? I didn't expect it to already be back. Welp, not going to see me complaining. :V

Moerin · « **Reply #3 on:** April 07, 2012, 06:34:56 PM »

Yes, it is back and it is still as awesome as ever.

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This is truly the greatest COOL.

Chaore · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2012, 08:15:40 PM »

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♛ Apher-Forte · « **Reply #5 on:** April 08, 2012, 12:01:05 PM »

I believe in Cthulhu and I am watching this.

it is an awesome start to a fantastic show.

Widermelonz · « **Reply #6 on:** April 08, 2012, 10:16:34 PM »

lolololol Kariya is such a kid

Greyn · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2012, 07:46:50 AM »

Saw eps 14 and 15 on Saturday, aww yeah. :smug:

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2012, 04:14:17 PM »

Gilgamesh remains objectively the best. And has a

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Also, I am fully happy with what happened to Ryunnosuke; I smiled a true smile.

Rider, you're being as useless as original Rider. I expected better of you, man.

Chaore · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2012, 04:29:02 PM »

well come on, he has an, ahem, 'SECRET IMMEASURABLE WEAPON' that basically amounts to a buffet for this guy

and can't work on water

totally comparable to gate of babylon. totally.

but yeah he's basically just kind of neutered as all fuck here. meanwhile saber gives no fuck about water.

that and i think he's just kind of not capable of doing much with his chariot that isn't running fools over and ramming so like

he has no use here by design. at all. not entirely his fault.

Hello Purvis · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2012, 09:11:58 PM »

For a normal character, I would agree with you. But Rider is hardly normal. Hell, he's just a trip to Shizouka from being a hot-blooded mecha pilot. If anyone could overcome being useless in this kind of situation, it'd be him.

Palewolf · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2012, 11:02:34 PM »

Woho! Been waiting for this.

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:V

I really like the new ED, especially after listening/reading the first season drama CD.

♛ Apher-Forte · « **Reply #12 on:** April 09, 2012, 11:33:26 PM »

I like how Gilgamesh only feels a

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PX · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2012, 05:16:09 AM »

Quote from: Palewolf on April 09, 2012, 11:02:34 PM

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I wonder how the guy in the jet is looking with all the g-forces those turns must have.

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labeth · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2012, 03:42:14 PM »

My alternate title for this episode was "A Bunch of Jerks Have a Point". Is it sad that

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Hello Purvis · « **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:46:09 PM »

It's interesting, as I've said before, because Ryuunosuke and Caster really do have the best relationship of any Master/Servant combo in Zero or Stay/Night. Like, better than Sabre and Emiya, really. Caster respected Ryuunosuke enough to let himself be swayed by Ryuunosuke's philosophy on life, enough to really toss the whole Grail War aside, while Ryuunosuke honestly looked up to Caster and never really used him as a tool at all. Neither tried to manipulate each other or explicitly use each other as the stepping stone toward some goal. They're honest with each other in a way that no one else ever was; not even Emiya and Sabre can claim that.

Chaore · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2012, 05:23:02 PM »

Oh I agree. It's probably because Ryuunosuke is probably the only TRUE example of a master who used himself to summon his servant.

Seriously, He had no special artifact and the dead bodies and stuff probably were simply fuel for the summoning spell. What attracted Caster was probably Ryuunosuke and his ideals, if you ask me. It's not surprise that they're the best servant/master pair. Though hey maybe I missed something.

Really though, the fun thing about master/servant pairs is figuring out how alike servants and masters are. It really is kind of a universal constant, even when the servants are specifically picked. It's also why Ryuunosuke and Caster are seriously best pair forever.

♛ Apher-Forte · « **Reply #17 on:** April 13, 2012, 01:18:06 PM »

I think of their relationship as Michio Kaku summoning Hawkins as a servant.
and I am not quite all that joking either.

Indeed, Caster and Ryuunosuke is both akin to a same book but on different sides of the covers, they are complimenting, as it is both at once beautiful a relationship as it is mutually damaging, in a sense if either of them (if possible) ever decide to change their ways they probably murder each other or become something involuntary. Not sure if there is a master/servant pair already at odds with each other like Lancer is with the new one. You can tell he doesn't trust her, and he certainly had no reason to like the former.

KFCbbQ · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2012, 04:55:28 PM »

Episode 15 is out gaiz :flowerpower:

Moerin · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2012, 08:45:32 PM »

...Not much to add on the Caster/Ryuunosuke discussion, as I pretty much agree completely. After all, that's what made them such compelling characters, as well as compelling villains.

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Also,

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Oh, and I suppose this means that

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Chaore · « **Reply #20 on:** April 15, 2012, 12:15:15 AM »

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♛ Apher-Forte · « **Reply #21 on:** April 15, 2012, 10:03:38 AM »

wait

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This episode is all kinds of awesome.
Gotta love it when knightly values triumphs over all other complications.

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Chaore · « **Reply #22 on:** April 15, 2012, 06:16:09 PM »

Quote from: ♛ 少女の醜態るるる~~夢~天国 on April 15, 2012, 10:03:38 AM

wait
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Apocrypha is canon now?

This episode is all kinds of awesome.
Gotta love it when knightly values triumphs over all other complications.
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I really like how Tokiomi is like 'lol fuck this imma just gonna stand here with my pimp stick and watch you scrub your way through with your horribugs' and to think Kirei would be the one to save Berserker's master... I was really thinking him of actually taking Berserker away from him because Assassin is owned hard... I mean, Kirei at least knew how to magic, unlike a certain buglord

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Moerin · « **Reply #23 on:** April 21, 2012, 07:33:01 PM »

...I'm going to admit that this was the one scene from the novel I did not want to spoil, because in my opinion it is not only one of the best scenes, but also one of the single most important in terms of theme and foreshadowing. Anyone who knows how Fate/Stay Night went will probably instantly realise the significance of this one scene. So... I'm not really sure what to say about it, other than it is one of the best constructed and best written scenes from the novel, and I am more than happy that the anime did it justice. Forget all the big fights, all the flashy powers and borderline ridiculous stunts pulled off before and even after this point; this is what Fate/Zero is all about. This is probably one of the biggest reasons I think it's better than Fate/Stay Night, because

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So, um... Yeah. Wondering what everyone else thinks about it, ahah.

♛ Apher-Forte · « **Reply #24 on:** April 22, 2012, 12:55:56 AM »

I thought he was already that way and it doesn't take much to cross the line anywhere in the sand.
Hell he already took out a motherfucking building for one guy, what is so hard to do what he did in this. But in that, he has evacuated everyone, so you can see he weighs heavily on innocent lives, as when those who are not in the battlefield do not deserve to die, and if they do, they do so at their own peril (such as watching Caster-Cthulhu in action and getting involved in it like those pilots.)

His is a sense of justice quite like poetry, it does not convey any sense of balance, but rather... a steep edge slope into an abyss of emotionless calculative perfection. If there was a God in my moral and theological belief, that God's personality would be very much like him. He does not force his ideals, there is no honor, as much as there are any chilvary... it is just child's play and Kiritsugu has progressed way beyond that stage... he is in what I call 'enlighten' to see the world as it is, a dark hellhole, he wants his piece of the pie and he has no reason not to commit his evils, and yet his reason is surely itself just.

He is in a sense... beautiful.
in a Hannibal Lecterish kinda way, but even that would be an insult, he is... probably way scarier, while people ponder on scarce and petty issues like knights honor and trying to win the fight, he wants to win the fucking war, capture every POW, torture them, set fire to them, make their country sign a tribute delivery every 3 months, and ensure his own citizens get PR whenever they migrate and have human rights at the same time... he will trample your shit, and all for the common good of everyone except himself and those he view to be his stepping stone to his ultimate goal.

Chaore · « **Reply #25 on:** April 22, 2012, 07:46:39 AM »

I liked this episode.

I liked this episode a lot.

Edit: Except that silly foreshadowing bit. That was hammy and needless.

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labeth · « **Reply #26 on:** April 23, 2012, 06:40:11 PM »

Excellent last couple episodes.

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♛ Apher-Forte · « **Reply #27 on:** May 06, 2012, 11:58:15 PM »

Wow, Kiritsugu's

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Sality · « **Reply #28 on:** May 10, 2012, 02:54:24 PM »

Quote from: ♛ 少女の醜態るるる~~夢~天国 on May 06, 2012, 11:58:15 PM

Wow, Kiritsugu's
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past is really fucked up, his father is... though not fucked up reflected all his learned values and how he applies them as the Mage Killer he is now...

and the scarier thing is,

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Barrakketh · « **Reply #29 on:** May 13, 2012, 05:49:12 AM »

Quote from: Sality on May 10, 2012, 02:54:24 PM

It's stated that Shirley eventually died after her transformation into a vampire, but is it really not shown (her death-scene) or maybe I missed it ? [/spoiler]

It's not explicitly stated (or shown), and the anime adaptation changed some things.

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