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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 16]
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2011, 10:23:10 PM »
Results for round 15

> Player results
> Chaore and master105 got fired from the Scarlet Devil Mansion for slacking around too much
> That leaves only 5 servants left!
> Schezo attacks Marisa with his broom. Marisa grazes and counter strikes Schezo for equal damage! However Daiyousei blocked the damage for him.
> Marisa: "You're annoying!"
> Affinity consumed a shroom. Double movement!
> Affinity is trying to clean the library but there is nothing to clean!
> Affinity is suffering from shroom side effects. Dicing result next turn is deducted by 1.
> Patchu: "MUKYU! What are you doing!?"

> Dice results
> Kilga: 2
> PX: 4
> Dular: 1

> AI results
> Sakuya moves
> Flandre is exiting Monopoly effect
> Remilia is exiting Monopoly effect
> Patchouli is in panic
> Koakuma showed up!
> Koakuma decides to prank but fails.
> Marisa is continuing to loot.
> Meiling is trying to scold nearby, but loses interest.

> Round 16 declared

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« Last Edit: December 27, 2011, 10:35:43 PM by Helepolis »

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 17]
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2011, 09:25:21 PM »
Results for round 17

> Player results
> PX returning from shopping.
> Schezo rages at Marisa and starts rampaging, gets counter attacked by Marisa, but is blocked by Daichan.
> Marisa: "Woa what the f***. I am out of here! This place is nuts"
> Schezo earned +4 CHA for raging at Marisa.
> Affinity takes a picture of Marisa.
> Affinity tries to clean the staircases but they are already clean(?)
> Rest seems Ninja


> Dice results
None!

> AI results
> Sakuya is idling.
> Patchouli is moving.
> Flandre is moving.
> Remilia is moving.
> Meiling is moving.
> Marisa is rushing away.
> Daichan is leaving.

> Round 18 declared

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« Last Edit: December 29, 2011, 09:50:24 PM by Helepolis »

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 18]
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2011, 10:17:52 PM »
Results for round 18

> Player results
> Everybody is Ninja


> Dice results
> Kilga: 4
> PX 4
> Schezo 5
> Affinity 3
> Dular 3

> AI results
> Unknown gap has disappeared.
> Sakuya moves
> Patchouli idles
> Flandre moves
> Remilia idles
> Meiling idles
> Marisa showed up at the gates.
> Marisa: "Yo."

> Round 19 declared

Due to old/new year's eve and shiz, deadline is 1 January 2012!

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 20]
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2012, 10:08:01 PM »
Results for round 19

> Player results
> Kilgamayan is being a good servant and cleaned a room (+1 CHA +25 points)
> PX tosses love potion at Marisa, but she evades it and smacks PX with her broom for 1 dmg. PX runs away.
> PX is rewarded for being good servant by the Mistress. (+1 CHA)
> Affinity is being a good servant and cleaned a room (+1 CHA +25 points)

> Dice results
> Schezo 3


> AI results
> Sakuya idles.
> Patchouli casts magic on the SDM. All melee attacks next round are blocked.
> Flandre idles.
> Remilia idles.
> Meiling idles.
> Marisa continues to hang around.
> An unknown gap has appeared in the Garden.

> Round 20 declared

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 20]
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2012, 09:10:43 PM »
Results for round 20

> Player results
> Kilgamayan is being a good servant and earned +1 CHA.
> Schezo is shopping
> Rest is Ninja

> Dice results
> Affinity: 2
> Dular: 5

> AI results
> Sakuya idles
> Patchouli moves
> Flandre idles
> Remilia moves
> Meiling is trying to scold nearby, but loses interest.
> Marisa is leaving soon.

> Round 21 declared

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 21]
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2012, 09:24:46 PM »
Results for round 21

> Player results
> Schezo is shopping
> Affinity is being a good servant and cleaned a room (+1 CHA +25 points)
> Rest is Ninja

> Dice results
> Kilga 5
> PX 5
> Dular 4

> AI results
> Sakuya moves.
> Patchouli idles.
> Flandre moves.
> Remilia scolds all players in the same room.
> Meiling moves.
> Tewi showed up!

> Round 22 declared

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 22]
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2012, 09:35:48 PM »
Results for round 22

> Player results
> Kilgamayan got spotted with a bra and lost 1 CHA for being a pervert.
> Kilgamayan is being a good servant and cleaned a room.
> Schezo returned from shopping
> Dular is being haunted (-1 life)
> Rest seems ninja

> Dice results
> Affinity 1

> AI results
> Sakuya idles.
> Patchouli idles.
> Flandre moves.
> Remilia moves.
> Meiling idles.
> Tewi hangs around.
> Unknown gap detected.

> Round 23 declared

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 23]
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2012, 10:29:34 PM »
Results for round 23

> Player results
> Kilgamayan is sleeping on the job it seems.
> Dular tries to socialize with unknown spirits, but does not know ghost-language.
> Rest seems Ninja!

> Dice results
PX 1
Schezo 3

> AI results
> Sakuya idles
> Patchouli is looking for reading material
> Flandre idles
> Remilia idles
> Meiling tries to scold nearby, but loses interest.
> Cirno showed up!
> Tewi is about to leave.

> Round 24 final round declared!

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« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 08:04:05 AM by Helepolis »

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 24] final
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2012, 08:04:25 AM »
Mistake in the dicing. Affinity is suppose to be Schezo =.=

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Round 24]
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2012, 11:47:15 PM »
Results for round 24

> Player results
> PX has called the crow squad
> Schezo got rewarded for being a good servant. (+2 CHA)
> Dular is throwing a tantrum.
> Rest seems Ninja

> Dice results
> Ignored

> AI results
> Nothing that might influence the outcome.

> Game over



The following calculations were used to determine the points.
- Every life is worth 10 points
- Every CHA is worth 25 points
- Money is ignored, because it is constantly used and earned, therefore unfair to calculate in.
- +100 points if you were Servant titled.
- +100 points if you were Cook titled.

Final scores (in order):
Schezo - 575 (Servant/Cook)
PX - 405 (Servant/Cook)
Affinity - 390 (Servant/Cook)
Kilgamayan - 365 (Servant/Cook)
Dular 315 (Servant)

Next post is reflection and some explanation.

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 11:50:17 PM »
This went by quicker than anticipated.

I would gladly play this again, though I say this in the hopes that (a) it runs for a longer amount of time, and (b) a movement system boost similar to the one I suggested halfway through the game was implemented.

Remilia is still an asshole, though.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 11:54:07 PM »
First of all thank you for partaking and showing interest in this forum game. I have a lot of to say but I am going to keep it short and hear more from you people.

Personally I consider this game a bad game. The game didn't run the way I expected/intended to run. This is totally to blame on my poor mechanism design. Especially with the dicing/moving/turn ending moves, they were conflicting heavily with the flow of the game as well as putting the players into near-impossible situations.

The AI was lacking several things but nothing too disturbing. I could've adjusted the values mid-game but that is bastard modding and I don't enjoy that. What was started, was used until the end. The AI was basically an IRC script I wrote which tossed random numbers with a certain chance. Each NPC in this game rolled a dice 1d3 where 1 = idle, 2 = movement 3 = action. If it was movement, another dice was rolled to decide the number of steps and the direction. For actions, each girl varied and here some things lacked.

Sakuya could demand one to clean a room. Remilia could demand a snack/edible or Flandre would demand a toy. Failure would result into -CHA or -Life, but these were not rolled often. Except on PX, Flandre seemed to like him.

I fully understand players do not think the way mods/gms do, which was logically the main reason for this slip up.. Therefore it is me to blame for not creating a more clear/transparent description on items etc or thinking it out bit more carefully. Either way, I enjoyed running it and hope at least you people enjoyed it somehow as well. If not, well... I'll invite you over for tea at the mansion. (I'll promise Kilga you won't get treated poorly this time).

Servants of SDM. You are hereby free from your sla-- eh jobs. Enjoy your freedom.

Edit: beaten by Kilga. :V
« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 11:56:09 PM by Helepolis »

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2012, 12:05:43 AM »
I will also say that I didn't mind being told to clean a room (and in retrospect I should have figured out how to become a servant faster than I did), but I have no idea why Sakuya told me to clean a room that was already clean, and I was further confused when I never received punishment for not doing it. It's an interesting mechanic that could see good use in future games, but it should be limited to rooms that are actually dirty.

Also Meiling trying to scold servants was really bizarre. I would have though she'd be the best target for ##Socialize of any NPC in the game, outside of maybe Flounder.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2012, 12:30:49 AM »
I know I didn't participate, but I just now had an idea that you could use next incarnation.

You could integrate a sort of "Relationship System".
Different actions have different outcomes with different people.
For example, Socialize would have more favorable outcomes with Flan. Because she doesn't get much outside of Sakuya, Patchy, and Remi. And so, would appreciate it a lot.
While doing your job and keeping the place clean in a punctual manner would improve relations with Sakuya.
Just what kind of bonuses it would confer is up in the air though. Maybe bonus CHA depending on the level you have with Remi?
Example Flavor Text: Your bond with the mistress has enabled you to become slightly more charismatic!

This is just a half-baked idea, but the base idea's there.
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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2012, 02:23:35 AM »
Oh look I won.

So after figuring out that moving and trying to do stuff was 90% not gonna happen, I figured I'd just set 1 or 2goals, like when I got the recipes I wanted to cook and do something with one, by endgame.
So after that I spent 3 turns trying to find water since I just got "broom and bucket" and thought I would need the water like the clean instructions said and it didn't occur to me that bucket was the water. :V
My last turn was literally, "Hmm go poke Cirno or use this meal that I spent all game trying to make, man."

Though when that gap appeared in the basement the first time my intent was to get that lone bookcase because something had to be there right?  I decided to ditch the bookcase and do one of two things with the gap, which was poke it and get something like an item, or poke it and lose like 5 life or die since Yukari did that at one point in another of your games and I was scared to poke it.  The rules implied we'd lose HP like it was going out of style.  It didn't and I lucked out.

Overall this was an interesting game to play but the time limit was killing me since I kept thinking, "God, how can I do stuff and not just sit here for a turn with the dicing."
so either a move boost of some sort or make the game last longer since I don't think anyone was ever in any danger of dying or being able to preform creative duties with the shop items since one could effectively only shop once or twice during the game to really do anything.  I had fun in the small amount of actions I was able to accomplish and if you decide to run this again with a few tweaks it could be a really cool game.

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2012, 07:22:38 AM »
Well, yeah, the fact that people needed to spend a turn dicing before moving pretty much cut the game's time into half.  There were a lot of things one could try and do, such as go for the killing route with the legendary sword and stuff like that, but in general there was too little time to experiment, and thus the game sort of degraded into searching for dirty spots and cleaning them as fast as possible.  Spending two turns cleaning for the sure reward of 1 CHA and 25 points seemed more beneficial than spending 4 or 5 turns trying to cook something for a hitherto unknown reward.  I guess this could all be remedied by allowing people to at least dice 1d3 even after doing a turn-ending action.

I did like the discovery aspect of the game though, such as the shock of having my broom break on me after whacking two people and watching Schezo get 4 CHA by raging at Marisa.  Cooking should certainly have been more accessible though.  I also second Hanzo's dating sim suggestion and making the residents of SDM more 'human' in a sense.  Announcements such as Flandre wanting a specific dish delivered to her would add some tension to the game, etc.

Side note: Also, the basement's rooms being red was pretty misleading since the legend showed that red = cleaning needed asap.  Wasted two turns on that.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2012, 07:25:30 AM by Affinity »

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2012, 07:36:15 AM »
Last place.  Sad face.


Would play again if the game lasted longer.  I had no idea that it was only 24 rounds until it said final round!

Everyone else pretty much sums up what I wanted to say.

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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2012, 07:53:39 AM »
All in all, sign me up for the next version of this.
Hopefully the next one'll go better eh?
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Re: Scarlet Devil Mansion personnel crisis [Game over]
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2012, 08:01:52 AM »
This is perhaps a bastard of me, but if people would have socialized with Meiling on turn 1, you would gotten to know the location of the broom+bucket and cooking book. (I was surprised nobody tried it). Meiling would've explained some secrets.

About Sakuya demanding cleaning. That was basically an action in my script turning her bitch-maid-mode. Even if it is clean, you're pinned down to clean. However, are rewarded for it.

Safely, we all agree the movmement mechanism was borked. I'll brainstorm something for this.

The raging at marisa earning +4 was because Patchouli was near. The funny thing is, he had to lose 2 life, but because Schezo gotten Daiyousei, all dmg was blocked. Frikken lucker.

Relationship outcomes were taken into account, but not in detail. For example, having certain CHA would trigger special events at girls. Having negative or low CHA would also trigger. I cannot spoil this unfortunately. Though it is perhaps something to consider for the next time.

Affinity, you are mentioning the Library when Marisa was raiding (Not Basement, Dular tried that). You tried to clean it, but there is nothing to clean since the entire library was being raided by her. Yes, it is bit unclear but then again Marisa being there, turning the entire library was a hint. About the basement being red, also hint was given what was wrong. (Even though they are bit mysterious as hell).