[WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread III

[ApharmdB]

Just putting it out that 981 is incomplete, especially the -swap and -repick commands. The former will be changed in the next version and the latter will be disabled.

That might take a while to come.

*SiG has been incapacitated by migraine from watching 6 hours of Gaki no Tsukai in one sitting.

[Dr Rawr]

Needs more dm mode less incomplete maps

[Antorory]

Bug Report Today

-Kogasa Permently Active her 2nd Skill  by some chance, also she can active while this skill permently active without losing normal attack dmg.

replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?tal67ake672f6bp <- around nearly end of the game

-youmu after death can't active 3rd skill anymore

-merlin can't use ultimate

end of report today.

[Dr Rawr]

so what are we expecting out of all the remakes? also iirc they were all agi :V

[ApharmdB]

Fireflies are hard to see in the day and especially bright at night.
Shinigamis are OP. If having a half yuurei makes one an OP agi carry, how about having 9 souls following one around?
The two vampire will lose and gain some bs points. One has physical lifesteal, the other has magic lifesteal. No more silly jumping around.
And while people want to ride the Shinkansen, I appear to have gotten a ticket for Thomas the goddamn Tank Engine instead.

/trollface

[Helepolis]

I appear to have gotten a ticket for Thomas the goddamn Tank Engine instead.
/trollface

Snap. http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/547211/crossover-error-eyes-face-gap-locomotive-parody-st

[Kuribohlv9]

I'm just wondering. How big difference is there between the western community metagame and the easter metagame?

[Helepolis]

I'm just wondering. How big difference is there between the western community metagame and the easter metagame?

There will be always difference in meta-gaming. This has not really anything to do with east vs west, but community vs community. Because I heard the thai community has different style than the chinese etc etc.

[Kuribohlv9]

There will be always difference in meta-gaming. This has not really anything to do with east vs west, but community vs community. Because I heard the thai community has different style than the chinese etc etc.

I mean like, difference in characters who are played regularly, Regular bans, item buys, etc.

[Dular]

Hum, unfortunately I can't say a lot for other people since I haven't played dots for a while, but most people here start off with either...

A.  Fruit Basket.
B. Two Mushrooms, two +3 stat items, healing item
C. Four mushrooms


As for lane strategy, once again pretty different on each person here, but the general idea is that you wait and farm until an opportunity arises.  As far as I know, eastern communities(Chinese if I remember correctly) are more proactive and make their own opportunities.


Bans.. Well, The three that are usually banned are Wriggle for being perma-invisible and no one here likes buying wards, Rumia for snowballing really well since no one here generally moves lane from lane giving her a strong roaming, and Sanae for being a slut.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

A.  Fruit Basket.
B. Two Mushrooms, two +3 stat items, healing item
C. Four mushrooms

I do none of the above. Except maybe B sometimes. Also, nobody is banned.

[Dular]

Wriggle and Rumia will always be banned in my books.

It's like the unwritten rule of dots here.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Whatever floats your boat.

[Dorakyura]

I played some Garena dots yesterday, got such a gay enemy team.
Yuyuko, Letty, Alice, Rin, forgot the lastone (some Pusher with AOE)
finished in 15 minutes...

Rumia isn't that big of a problem, just gank her and you are fine. Wriggle sucks because she does way to much damage with her bees and should not become invisible when it's active. and they should change her fadingtime to minimum 1 second on max level -.-

[Helepolis]

and they should change her fadingtime to minimum 1 second on max level -.-

Did I hear someone mentioning old Wriggle?

Just don't fight Wriggle when she out with her beetles (in teamfights it might be slightly more difficult). That is like the same with that DotA hero with the spirits.

[Dorakyura]

But Wriggle cannot be attacked when her beetles are active  :X

[Helepolis]

But Wriggle cannot be attacked when her beetles are active  :X

Awesome isn't it? She can just summon them and then troll you. If you're squishy, you die.

[Amraphenson]

Question: Am I playing a jungler?
Yes: Start with donation box, grab fruit basket asap, farm like a chinese man's really hard to do anything.
No: I'm playing a nuker, go into lane with fruit basket, start roaming after I hit level five, six, or seven, depending on who exactly I'm playing.

GENERALLY: Shit doesn't happen til level 5-7 because towers are so absurdly powerful; if your gank doesn't go well, you just wasted time. And it's really easy not to go well because of LOL TOWERS THAT EAT A 3rd OF YOUR HP.

Wards aren't really important because most everyone has some kind of escape mechanism.
people generally go laning items>boots>core item
of course Dormio is a baller and just does w/e the fuck he wants.

[Dorakyura]

people generally go laning items>boots>core item

that doesn't work sometimes but I guess this is our playstyle :V

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

of course Dormio is a baller and just does w/e the fuck he wants.

My carry Lily will destroy you.
The game I did that, I almost won by myself. Unfortunately, my team sucked and when Shikieiki cloned me, my team would die to my illusion. IT'S A GODDAMN LILY, WHY ARE YOU DYING FFFFFFFFF

[Pesco]

Because yuri is the death of all Touhous.

[Helepolis]

No: I'm playing a nuker, go into lane with fruit basket,

[old man's voice]
Back in my days! We didn't had a fruit basket. We had to live on mushrooms. Damn youngsters these days!
[/old man's voice]

On a different note: I told Aph that I will be holding the wiki edits on a hold until we got the next new major version. Saves us all continuously editing the stuff.

[Dr Rawr]

Speaking if wiki edits were gonna need a new format for the character pages   :derp:

[Helepolis]

Speaking if wiki edits were gonna need a new format for the character pages   :derp:

What did you have in mind?

[Dr Rawr]

Something that involves more tables :V.

[Dr Rawr]

just wanted more then 2 opinions on this...
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Dr_Rawr

plan to have the colours different for both hakurei and moriya heros(red and green kind of colours)
Also plan to make it easy to add in the some time in the future unique stat gains on level up. But thing is its gonna look pretty crowded and was wondering if anyone actually cared about cast/attack animation, BAT, and missile speed. Thing is those stats are pretty hard to update now that xdep doesnt work on the map and would TOTALLY have to rely on sig for all the info.

Any problems with the setup so far? besides looking complicated as fuck.....

edit: i mean once i create an empty one is just mostly copy and paste of old skills and icons into new.

[Helepolis]

It needs to be friendly to update for anybody who is entering the code/source. (Values are logically the only things changing most of the time). I always found BAT, missile speed etc bit "nice to know, not must know" information. They can be imo removed.

Also your example as it is, is kind of looking mspaint style. Needs to be more pleasant for the eyes and "smoother" See for example the sample templates I was testing long while ago http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Defence_of_The_Shrines:_Items

[Dr Rawr]

Template or not, its not gonna be easy to edit do to how long skill descdiptions are. Not to mentions how certain heros skills can be so different from the rest. Patchy for example would be a pain to add do to her invoker likeness.

[Helepolis]

Skill descriptions won't change unless the skill is changed. Values is what changes most. Would be best to find a system to edit those easily.

[Dr Rawr]

A template wont work then since everyone has different skill descriptions, this is only if want to edit the values. Unless we created a template for every girl....no

 :derp: chinese people got is easy, take screen shots -> done