P.S. I'm sure Bardiche wants Godmother powers too. Thanks!
Ladies, gentlemen, huh what.Does this mean huhwhat is neither a gentleman or a lady?
I'm a self-reviving fullcop with a single vig shot. How about you people?Infinite-use FakeNeighbor Serial Killer with bulletproof vest.
##Vote: PXSo your role alters the alignment of the second person to vote you to scum?
2nd one to jump on this train is scum :D
If I have to send you a mod prod more than three times, I will be very cross.
Secure Police Of Oblique Nefariousness
Lines that are neither perpendicular, nor parallel.
And if PX flips town, then Affinity is suspicious because PX said second on his wagon would be scum!
unless you are accusing me of trying to portray you in a negative light.yessir
7) Nights last 24 hours. I may decide on a whim to shorten these if all night actions are in, but I do not guarantee it.This is making me a little worried. If it's vanilla mafia, shouldn't there only be one night action?
Also, question for mod.
This is making me a little worried. If it's vanilla mafia, shouldn't there only be one night action?
Serela is still voting me. He took his vote off to revote me when he made it serious.
so better clarification on why it comes off so non-commital would be appreciated.
Nothing wrong with keeping my vote, I guess.
...wasn't supposed to.That actually didn't occur to me until I went to bed. Still, the whole posts seems scummy, even with the excuse of you getting way too into RVS.
You guys post too much.You're not allowed to say that until page 5.
Still, the whole posts seems scummy, even with the excuse of you getting way too into RVS.
You guys post too much.
Interesting posts have been made. I think you could do a lot better than that. HW and Neo have posted enough times for you to draw some idea about them. Let's see a stance on it. Zak's been pretty clear. What about his logic are you not seeing?
Also; Don't overestimate me, I'm half your age and you shouldn't expect me to be as skilled as you.
Affinity: Uh, how is that a chainsaw? I'm not attacking Nobu for the vote, I'm asking him for clarification on his accusation of Polly being "non-commital" since I did not really see that. I wasn't even defending Polly, it just seems odd to me that Nobu is stressing what seems to be a semantics issue as the main point of his case, while leaving the actual bad wagon jump as a secondary reason for voting.
Die :V
On the other hand. If you're implying my criticisms on people so far have been unfounded, then what exactly makes the actions of Pesco and Serela seem reasonable to you? I suppose my complaint about PX might have not been necessary, but I think it is reasonable for me to be nervous about somebody continously keeping me at L-2 over a RVS OMGUS. Also note that I was not criticizing your vote or trying to call you scummy so much as having confusion towards what you were doing. I might not have expressed myself very well.
Would you have said anything differently had I not added "I guess" to the end of that statement?
I did take a stanceI already countered that stance, and you didn't argue back. You can't even stand up for your own stances.
Hm... Neo takes a joke in RVS, then posts a rather ambiguous as to whether it's a joke or serious post, but it just leads to some back and forth arguing that goes nowhere.You forgot to tell everyone if you think this makes Neo Serela Scum or not. Do you?
inconclusive, but near the top
PX Ninja: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Seriously though, please rephrase that. I can't tell what you're trying to get across here.
Zak's question, yeah I kind of forgot. Answer:RVS shenanigans. It doesn't follow logically and wasn't supposed to.
yessir
unless you are accusing me of trying to portray you in a negative light.
I don't like Nobu letting up his pressure on Polaris so easily, especially considering how weak Polaris defended himself. It comes off as if he's just giving up because people disagree with it, and the fact that his solution is to change his vote to a prod vote does not help. Prod votes are not in town's best interest, as they essentially allow scum to place down a vote without having adding a proper case to the table.
While I'm not going to deny PX's move in the RVS wasn't the greatest, Nobu... said nothing about that. His entire vote is just based on inactivity.
This pretty much reads to me as scum not wanting to have to keep up pressure on somebody and therefore moving to an inactive target, since nothing actually changed to make Nobu want to unvote Polly.
I don't really have much to say to your post, personally I think sitting back and waiting for town to lynch somebody for a flip isn't the greatest course of action for a townie to do, but I can see where you're coming from as well at least. Doesn't change my stance on you either way.
How did you even arrive to that conclusion? And that whole "Prod votes are not in town's best interest", I can't help but read that as "Prod votes are as scummy as I feel like interpreting them at the time".
I've seen these words thrown in the last game, but can someone tell me what they mean?
Bussing
WIFOM
OMGUS
Re: Pesco - I do agree that Pesco's criticism of #53 is pretty hypocritical, and that he can do better than 'you guys post too much' if he expects others to do the same. Not sure if that's scumminess or egoism at this point; would like to see more out of him right now.
Then Solf comes in, says nothing, and Pesco jumps on him for not taking a stance. While still not saying anything about his stance. Definitely just jumping on the first person he can jump on. And he still hasn't provided anything.
Not agreeing that my reasoning is shoddy, otherwise I wouldn't be voting you.
You dropping the case on Polly is just what I gathered from your post, since you unvoted him in exchange for a much weaker case. If you still think Polly looks like scum, then that technically makes your exchange for a lurker prodvote even worse.
Oh yes, about what I said in regards to Pesco. That... is not even my main reason for voting him, in fact I probably would not have brought that up had he not pressed me for a response after he said that (or at least I felt his post was pressing me for a response).
Not impressed with the OMGUS, honestly. I don't really see your case on me beyond "he's criticizing lots of people and used indecisive wording like twice!!!". This may be because I do not believe my reasoning against you to be weak, but eh.
I wasn't pressing you for a response. I was voting Kimblee, why would I be asking you? In fact, why would you have thought it was necessary for you to answer for Kimblee? As I said in 57, chainsaws. What's it to you to defend other people?I think we're talking about different things here :s I'm talking about when you called me out for "mashing F5" expecting me to post. I got the impression that you wanted a post from me when you said that, was I wrong?
Blatant hypocrisy right there. Combine this with how you were clearly around earlier to provide one and you just look opportunistic, as if you were waiting around for an easy target to jump on.
Pesco made a hypocritical and opportunistic vote without providing any real stances prior despite a chance to do so
I think we're talking about different things here :s I'm talking about when you called me out for "mashing F5" expecting me to post. I got the impression that you wanted a post from me when you said that, was I wrong?
Not sure how you interpreted it as defense.
Also, if you are accusing me of defending Solf while chainsawing you, then why are you essentially attacking me while answering attacks for Nobu (read: defending him)? It's pretty much the same thing. <_<
Neo/HW ED1 was a pretty stupid thing to be making so many posts about.If it was a stupid thing to be making so many posts about and you did not want to add to it, then encouraging another player (Kimblee) to do so or blaming them for not adding to it themselves is essentially inconsistant with what you yourself are showing through your actions. Why would you openly encourage another player to engage in a debate you believe to be unnecessary?
Your original vote indicated uncertainty. If we look over what was happening at the time, it's possible that you also made an opportunistic jump onto me. You were also 'around' to start something on me. Your first post calling me on my ED1 posts were clear in that you didn't like my activity. The other cases at the time were no better than mine on Kimblee. Why is nailing Kimblee's first post with a vote scummy? I didn't drop one case for another. There was no objection to my reasoning. I developed my stance on Kimblee from the first post, how is that scummy?Your vote came off as an opportunistic usage of Kimblee's post because you had not given a set of opinions on the other current cases when prodded, and when you had a chance to do so in your following post, you instead jumped on the player who had most recently posted. It comes across as if that post had not popped up, you would have continued to avoid responding and had absolutely nothing to say about what was currently happening in the game. It also seems to lead towards the "lurk thread, wait for people who can be jumped on" playstyle that you just accused me of.
Nobu answered for himself. I'm giving my reading AFTER he's done defending himself.Not to 83, which your post responded to a lot more than 77.
Still no content from Kimblee or PX. Is there any reason why I should not be considering one of them as lurkscum?Timezones. I was asleep.
Getting into the game is when someone takes a joke too seriously. Who reads to you as taking things too seriously and who reads as not taking anything seriously?At that point in time, I thought HW was taking it too seriously, and you were not.
Also, with huge emphasis on activity levels and adjectives like 'good', 'decent'Huge emphasis? I said it in your case, in Serelas', in HWs', and a vauge mention in Zakeris'. How is that huge?
If you put aside that Polly has no new opinions, he's consistent in how he responded.Except, when someone provides no new opinions, you're suppose to punish them into providing, not switch to someone else who has even less of a chance to defend themselves. Nobu's switch has proper scum motivation for happening, and unless Polly is slightly confirmed town, little town motivation.
@ Pesco: I believe Nobu should have held to his Polly case instead of voting PX because when Nobu responded to Polaris' defense, he did not note any sort of satisfaction with Polaris' defense and seemed to keep up his attack on the wishywashyness by pointing out why he thought Polly's post came off that way, but then said he thought the case had been beaten into the ground and switched to his PX vote, which came off inconsistant to me.
Plus, Nobu originally voted Polaris for both criticizing Serela for 'sucking at RVS' and being non-commital. What happened to the first point? I know he did not prioritize is as much as the latter, but it pretty much disappeared into thin air when Nobu switched his vote.
Oh, sweet Merciful Kanako, did you guys honestly put the person who is attempting the most scumhunting at L-1? Neo Serela voted him for making a decent ED1 case on him, and now we have Nobu voting huhwhat for "Heaping excessive criticism and suspicion every which way ..." which to me translates as "pointing out everything that he finds scummy."
huh what in #82-83 illustrates that ...
Yes, I expressed irritation with PX disappearing. Did I vote him? No, because his disappearance wasn't actually scummy so much as annoying.
The more I think about it, the more backwards the logic sounds. If you provide more examples where Huhwhat is saying "No, that's not scummy, I just wanted to point it out." That disproves your logic because he's closing off these options. If you don't provide more examples, that basically admits that most of what Huhwhat is pointing out is legitimate scumhunting, which helps dispute the idea that he's scum in the first place. Unless you can provide points where huhwhat is directly saying "I don't want to put my vote here, but it would be really neat if others did" or other such cheerleads and fence sits, than your argument about Huhwhat being too "excessive" is completely flawed.
Prodvoting is scummy when the person is going to be dead no matter what anyone else in the game does, or said vote stays on with the inactivity reason as the main thrust. PX responded, they weren't good responses, but since a better case than everything before came out from the prodvote, there is no fault with it.
If Kimblee didn't post, I would have carried on waiting. Voting before any post arrived would be a prodvote that tended towards the scummy variety. As town, why should I go and do something scummy like that?
E.g from your list everyone seems scummy except huhwhat and NobuThis is in reference to Kimblee's 93~94. I don't see how you reached this conclusion, Affinity.
I think it's strange how Pesco is jumping on Kimblee who kind of screams obv.nub to me, and adding that onto his complete lack of effort earlier in the day (He outright said he wasn't going to bother with much until we have flips,
Kimblee is lurky nib so far IMO, I don't have any problems with the logic or conclusions on the list he posted, so I'm neutral towards him atm.
Well now! Time to grab your instruments and prepare! It's time for singing jaunty tunes in the streets!
I wasn't feeling too sure about Pesco, but now that I pay close attention to himThis is the kind of thing a person knowing they were voting town would say when making a hammer. The whole post just feels like he's trying to say "Okay, guys, don't blame me if this doesn't work out."
It's been over 20 hours, and my opinion has barely changed. All of you are bad people.Same here, pretty much. Polly's new post has not done anything to make me feel any better about him, as all his opinions remain indecisive ("Kimblee could be scum oh but he could also be newb but I'm not going to decide yet oh but he's still second on my scum list" in particular seems waffly to me) and I am having trouble seeing his Serela case at all because of this.
yes I know that's kind of vague and undescriptive and laced with metaIf you're going to give Polly a pass over his townie meta, I'd just like to point out that he doesn't even have scum meta to compare it to right now. :x
Kimblee does feel like scum with his vague (?) posts and the noncommittal (?) vote. However, those are also the characteristics of a cautious newbie (something I can relate to), so I'm going to wait for some more posts before I make a proper decision. At the moment he's only second on my scum list.
...of course as cautious newbscum he may have nightkilled Affinity for putting the most pressure on him, but that's slightly on the edge of a WIFOM argument so I'll stop there.
Prod votes are scummy because they allow scum to place their vote on a player without giving out a proper case on them or holding onto opinions. They are not even proper methods of pressure because when the target returns you're obligated to remove your vote and have effectively just gone through a stretch of time without doing anything of note.So what exactly does your vote on Pesco count as, then? You were effectively prodding him for his lack of contribution, while moving away from your earlier 'serious' Neo case.
Considering he'll be lynched regardless, this doesn't really change anything.Then why did you say it? If you think he's scum, surely this line is totally unnecessary for you to write. It's a semantics point, though, and IMO not enough to really earn him a vote.
It doesn't help that in 29 he states again that he's being serious with the accusation...but evidently not serious enough to be worth a vote.I thought I was pretty clear that I did not vote Serela because I thought PX's selfvote was more anti-town than what Serela was doing at that point. (Also Kimblee was the clueless newbie here, PX has at least been in another game before.)
Pesco said that the Neo/HW argument was useless fluff with the 'you guys post too much' point, so this just feels like a bad excuse to jump away from Neo.I gathered that he was saying that we posted too much and he didn't want to read it rather than that it was fluff. If he actually meant what you were saying, he should have worded it more clearly.
So what exactly does your vote on Pesco count as, then? You were effectively prodding him for his lack of contribution, while moving away from your earlier 'serious' Neo case.That's a misrep. I mainly voted Pesco for hypocrisy and seeming opportunistic. The prod on him for pretty much doing nothing came a while before I actually voted him and was primarily out of irritation.
Firstly, if I have learned anything from Kefit and Alice screaming at me when Town loses for the umpteenth time because we lynched a 'lurker', it's that lurking on D1 is not in and of itself bad.Isn't that only supposed to apply if they actually had good content when they did post? PX and Polly most certainly did not.
That's a misrep. I mainly voted Pesco for hypocrisy and seeming opportunistic. The prod on him for pretty much doing nothing came a while before I actually voted him and was primarily out of irritation.From how I read your 54 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7485.msg471391.html#msg471391) the main point seemed to be the fact he hadn't posted based on the use of bold. I did sort of read the entire topic in one run to try and get a good idea of what's going on, so the bold caught my eye there, and I thought your hypocrisy was a lurker calling out a lurker for lurking (which apparently seems to be a case of differing opinions when it comes to Pesco and his clarity).
Isn't that only supposed to apply if they actually had good content when they did post? PX and Polly most certainly did not.
You guys should be figuring out by now that I only post when I have something meaningful to say. This means that I generally avoid the crapshoot that is day one.This is Kefit talking postgame after Haruhi Mafia, where his only contribution to the entire D1 was this. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,5363.msg286669.html#msg286669) Now, I'm willing to agree that if lurkers proceed to offer nothing of use when D2 comes around then it's time to start getting suspicious, but Polly has been trying (albeit poorly) and honestly even if you say PX has been in one previous game terms like 'YOU SUCK AT RVS' don't really sound like they're coming from an experienced player.
Now, I'm willing to agree that if lurkers proceed to offer nothing of use when D2 comes around then it's time to start getting suspiciousAnd this is exactly what's going on right now, really.
erms like 'YOU SUCK AT RVS' don't really sound like they're coming from an experienced player.As I said, judging from last game, I think PX has the ability to contribute a lot more then he is now. He's inexperienced, yes, but he's shown before that he's able to do a lot more then he's putting out right now.
Dear Scum,
I think you should try to Lynch NeoSerela while people are still confused on his alignment.
Also, Please nightkill Zakeri and Huhwhat, okay?Love, Your Buddy
Your current play puts me on edge. Heaping excessive criticism and suspicion every which way seems like a great way for scum to leave his options without looking too impulsive or eager if he has to bandwagon hop later. You've added me to your alternative acceptable-lynch-pool for shoddy reasoning, and based on your statement in #65, it seems like you even added Polly to the pool as well. Despite not seeing things the same way I do regarding his wishy-washiness. And while I was *just* about to say that your redeeming quality was that you were sticking to your guns regarding Pesco and expressing a strong opinion about someone at least, I'm even leery of that much now.Reading through, you've basically showed a disliking to just about anything and everything, and jumped all over the place.
Polly's post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7485.msg471061.html#msg471061) says nothing and means nothing. It also just parrots huhwh-oh, wait, parrot. A ha ha, I get it.Hell, I agree with this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7485.msg472870.html#msg472870)
huh what: Town
In fact, when did I even say "PX was a lot better in his last game"? All I recall stating is that he had been in another game before. Unless I'm forgetting something.I was responding to Neo (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7485.msg474393.html#msg474393) there.
Really, his D3 opening post takes the cake for me. Polly may or may not be scum, HW may or may not be scum, I may or may not be scum, and Zak may or may not be scum.More like "Polly may be scum but I wouldn't bet on it so -scratch off scumlist-", "Huhwhat and Rou look scummy", and "Need to read Zak to form opinion". And then my read of Zak turned up town, so I end up with exactly two people I'd like to vote, when we know there is two scum left. The problem, of course, is the lack of reasoning, but I'll get around to that.
Okay, maybe a short list right now.That was so not a short list ;_;
all while never actually putting a vote to his suspicions of Neo.Uh, you do realize my vote was on Serela when I changed it to Pesco, right? <_<
but now that I think about it pretty much everything that looked bad about PX to me was not brought up by SerelaElaborate, please.
One thing though. Rou, what makes you think my argument with Serela was a scum/scum argument rather than town/scum or town/town? I never really got that, since what you said about me never placing a vote down on Serela was wrong.The entire thing felt overplayed, exaggerated almost. I know that it's necessary to take a non-srs vote srsly in order to kick off the actual discussion, but then things don't add up. If you wanted to start discussion, why did you leave your vote on the person who'd made the self-vote which honestly doesn't achieve much either way because it's a lousy pile of WIFOM and doesn't achieve anything for Town/Scum? What discussion can you generate from a self-vote beyond Fong's Gambit, which is honestly bullshit and not worth bringing up? You spent half a dozen posts bickering with one another about minor points that achieved nothing - points that were quickly dropped when the Pesco vote turned up. Non-productive posting/bickering = scummy play.
This probably needs to be revised and sorted and redacted all over into a cool shiny case on someone.Yes, Neo. Yes it does.
But it's certainly better then nothing in the state it's in now, I guess.No, Neo. No it isn't. Really.
EBWOP: Also WHAT HAPPENED WHY DID MY [N] FALL OVER HOW DO I PICK IT UP ;_;It's all ... falling ... into place!
Zak's suspicions were not very solid yesterday, IMO. Notably how he said he was suspecting a Polly/Nobu scumteam at the start of the day and then suddenly drops the Nobu case halfway through, when the closest thing to elaborating why he did this is the implication that PX looks worse to him.
Will switch back to Polly to avoid nl if necessary, but PX looks the worst to me now. I think he should be getting more attention than Kimblee, even.So you're voting polly. You switch to PX, and say "PX should be getting even more attention than Kimblee". Does that mean Polly should not have been getting more attention than Kimblee?
One thing I don't get - Neo and Zak have both accused me of superbussing Huhwhat as my scumbuddy. Where exactly is this accusation coming from, given that I haven't placed a vote on HW at all and have been chasing Neo pretty much since I replaced into the game?Well, you HAVE kind of also been chasing HW the entire game too, just only as being overshadowed by how I'm even worse to you. This isn't rocket science, you've been saying quite clearly all along you think HW is scum.
Later in 77, he puts pressure on Nobu for giving up the vote on Polaris to go for PX, and says that this actually makes Nobu worse than Serela, even though he still hadn't received any word from Neo Serela since he started voting for him.I had pretty much categorized the argument with Serela as a (likely townie vs townie) RVS mishap at that point and it seemed to me that Nobu's prodvote with no other substance was worse because, you know, Nobu looked bad for an actual vote while the game was srs while Serela looked bad over a joke that was posted as soon as the game started.
Huhwhat starts off day 2 by moving onto Polaris for mainly lurking and not giving opinions worth reading. Also blames Kimblee for Cheerleading a town wagon and not voting until prodded. This was actually a good point, as oppose to starting out of the gate voting for a lurker. Why did you think Polaris was worse than Kimblee at the time?Probably didn't explain this very well when voting him, but I read into Polaris' posting habits as an attempt to scoot by D1 without taking an actual stance through a constant defense, which seemed pretty bad to me. Kimblee was not actually that much lower than Polly in terms of my voting priorities, though her being lower was probably affected by me giving her a bit of a newb pass, since posting a wall of stuff then not actually topping it with a vote seems like newbie play to me.
So you're voting polly. You switch to PX, and say "PX should be getting even more attention than Kimblee". Does that mean Polly should not have been getting more attention than Kimblee?Out of the two newbies, I felt that it was odd that people were complaining about Kimblee more than they were complaining about PX. Polly is not PX or Kimblee, so I'm not sure why you're asking me this question (or I'm having trouble understanding it). Basically I felt Polly was scummier than Kimblee, and that PX was scummier than both, and did not understand why people gave PX passes while having Kimblee as their first or second voting choice.
rou is scummy if huhwhat is scummy who is scummy if rou is scummyWith knowledge of my own alignment and there being two scum, this means everyone else, if considering only pure probabilities, has a 50% chance of being scum. That would mean a 75% chance that at least one out of either Rou or Huhwhat is scum, which, by my circular logic, means a 75% chance that both Rou and Huhwhat are scummy together!
This is actually an 83.3% chance that at least one of Roukan or huh what is scumAnd then, the information ingame and not a probability, means that if one of them is scum, the other one is suddenly much more subjectively likely to be scum, which...
and also using lame probabilities which pretty much don't change anything at all.This part is kind of true, I guess. It's a weird way of justifying circular logic which in itself is ridiculous. I was being a little silly, which is fun, but not really productive I suppose.
The only other thing I can see that's relevant to Zak is that he's declared intent to hammer twice, but both times never followed through.The first time he probably would have hammered had I not gotten there before him :V
<NaNoPhweeMo> since i guess no-one is thinking proofreading is a goodideaKids, sleep earlier or you'll become a senile writer who makes crazy dolphin sounds like Rou. This public service announcement is brought to you by the members of #scarlet-library.[/s]
<NaNoPhweeMo> iwa will nslsepp
Well, you HAVE kind of also been chasing HW the entire game too, just only as being overshadowed by how I'm even worse to you. This isn't rocket science, you've been saying quite clearly all along you think HW is scum.Uh...last I checked, that wasn't superbussing. Superbussing would be pressing the HELL out of a buddy and refusing to place my vote elsewhere. I have been arguing and voting Neo since the beginning of the replacement, so claiming I was superbussing HW is blatant misrep. Especially considering that HW!Scum mostly depends on Neo!Scum from where I'm standing.
Sweet Rou: Forgetting about himself making a case on huh what is awkwardly inconsistent, which has him lose a few points.Wait, what? When did I forget my case on HW? If this is from the superbussing point again then I'm seriously getting annoyed with how people are accusing me of doing something I didn't. At no point did I 'forget' my case on HW; the whole thing relies on Neo's flip, because it's HW's interactions with Scum!Neo that have me most suspicious.
This is in reference to Kimblee's 93~94. I don't see how you reached this conclusion, Affinity.
To sum it up, he says Affinity is lurky, he's on the fence about PX, and then Pesco/Serela look bad. Town read on Huhwhat and neutral on Nobu/Polly. His conclusions seem fairly clear, and a Fency/Lurky with two scummy reads doesn't sound like making everyone look scummy.
The thing is, Scum normally wouldn't be confused about who's scum and who's town, because they already know. The fact that he confused himself while trying to figure out who's scum reads to me that NeoSerela is town. Just that he doesn't have the knowledge or experience needed to know how to make a well-thought out argument.I personally read into that as if he was attempting to overplay his meta as derpy. Also, it's not like scum can't pretend to be a confused townie for the sake of trying to get cleared.
Either one of Zak or Polly would/will be voting me if Rou/Huhwhat are not scum, since lynching me would win the game, they don't need to bother being consistent with previous opinions as long as they don't give a chance for the townie voting me to change their mind.
This game was such an incredible drought of posting. ;_;
I and Huh what are basically obvtown right now, while everyone else is either lurkerscum, or Nobu.
Hey, Nobu said the same thing first.
I'm sorry nobu! I didn't mean to ignore you. Wait, yes I did. It was just wrong of me to ignore you. I'm still apologizing.
More curious about why I was killed over someone 'obvtown' like Huh whatYou're better than me at this game tbh :sor Zakeri
Congrats on a game well-played, scumteam. I still hold out hope for a SPORK alliance however.
So I ended up the NK because I talk to much, basically? :V
I couldn't figure out what you were referring to here. >_o
My guess is Zakeri (definitely) and Serela for now. The jump on pesco was so sudden and misdirected that I was shocked when I woke up to it. I even thought that pesco was playing *well*.Why did nobody else catch this? I threw my full weight behind the Pesco lynch (Well, as much as I was could throw) as a complete obvlynch, and when he came up town, no one even bothered to glance in my direction. Despite the fact that I know Pesco's meta well enough to know that as town I would want to keep him around more than, say, someone who was lurking or waffling on opinions.
Assuming it isn't something radically different like Roukan + Zakeri in which case well played, you two. :V
(good D3 though)Would like elaboration on this so I know what I'm doing right for the future, as I personally thought I did fairly poorly D3 from my maybe two posts.
I'll say it again, Zak hit upon my weakness for Puyo Puyo Fever style art. How am I supposed to suspect someone with an avatar so adorable ;_;