Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Hakurei Shrine~ => Touhou Addict Recovery Center => Topic started by: Aya Reiko on May 12, 2010, 01:37:53 AM
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Odd... We usually hear something about the next game in the series by now. Well, we did have Double Spoiler, but that came out a couple of months ago.
What are your thoughts on what TH13 will be?
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My idea, another Phantamagoria game. The main difference, instead of 1v1, it's 2v2. One character will be on their own side firing at anything that comes into range. The other character, when circumstances allow, will be assisting the player and interfering with the opponent.
Prospective Teams:
Shrine Maiden and Trainee: Reimu & Sanae
Aria of Forbidden Magic: Marisa & Alice
Servants of the Devil: Sakuya & Hong Meiling
Inaba of the Moon, Inaba of the Earth: Reisen & Tei
Wanderers Between Life and Death: Youmu & Komachi
Prismriver Sisters: Lunasa & Merlin
Ambitious Tengu Reporters: Aya & Hatate
Garden Master's Expedition: Yuka & Elly
Byakuren Temple Team: Shou & Nazrin
Pets of the Satori: Rin & Utsuho
And save a few spots for new characters, secret characters, and the bosses. Teams are set for Story mode, For Vs. mode, any team can be assembled from the available characters.
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I'd be surprised if there was another game this year. From the sounds of it, it seems ZUN was depressed about something before the release of Double Spoiler, so maybe he only had the drive to do one game.
As for the next game, it'll have bullets, and Reimu and Marisa will appear as playable characters. There will be six stages, plus an extra, and it'll have good music.
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Don't forget it will implement shooting, Scoring, grazing and it will have a power system too!
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And of course, it'll have a gimmick that makes it slightly/very different from other games, and will directly involve scoring!
And now for some speculations that are not based on what we already have seen:
Based on patterns, it MIGHT be Phantasmagoria. Very likely.
In such a scenario, Reimu, Marisa, and Sanae are guaranteed a spot. Aya, Okuu, and Kogasa are likely possibilities. Other characters are variable.
It probably will NOT revolve around water.
If it's a Danmaku game, it will have Reimu and Marisa, with a possibility of Sanae, and if the SDM is threatened, then Sakuya will appear, too.
There will be curved lasers. BEWARE!
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Final Boss: Shota Dragon
Stage five: MANNOSUKE
Stage four: Youki (Midboss: Rinnosuke)
Stage three: Lord Tenma
Stage two: Marisa's dad
Stage one: Standard loli
Player cast: Miko, Miko, Jesus, Witch
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Final Boss: Shota Dragon
I approve of this!
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Prismriver Sisters: Lunasa & Merlin
What happened to Lyrica? :(
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Final Boss: Lord Tenma on Horse
Stage five: MANNOSUKE
Stage four: Lord Tenma
Stage three: Lord Tenma's horse
Stage two: Marisa's dad
Stage one: Standard loli
Fixt.
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I'm expecting a it to have a bit of a steam punk flair to it. I've noticed that in SA,12.3, and DS Gensokyo has been showing signs of slight technological progress, So maybe we'll see some more Victorian Era cloths or something like that
HUUUUGE guess, but, I imagine a stage with train tracks in the background with the boss being a tsukomogami Steam Engine with a condutor's hat, a pocket watch, and a nice suit, Possibly with ZUN style arrangments of the 12.3 Menu and Ending themes as the stage and boss themes
But then again, that's just me :V
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1st Boss = Prep
2nd Boss = Goth
3rd Boss = Scene
4th Boss = Emo
5th Stage Midboss = Nerd
5th Boss = Jock
6th Boss = Gangster
EX = Psycho.
TITLE: Yukari's Gapping Incident
PCS: Marisa in teacher outfit and Reimu in principal outfit.
kk nuff said.
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1st Boss = Prep
2nd Boss = Goth
3rd Boss = Scene
4th Boss = Emo
5th Stage Midboss = Nerd
5th Boss = Jock
6th Boss = Gangster
EX = Psycho.
TITLE: Yukari's Gapping Incident
PCS: Marisa in teacher outfit and Reimu in principal outfit.
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Gensokyo is flooded to epic proportions and the heroines must venture underwater to find the culprit.
Yes I really want a water themed Touhou game damnit. =(
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Like I suggested before, Touhou 13 = Water, Touhou 14 = Heart, Touhou 14 Phantasm Boss = Captain Planet. (as a loli)
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*deadpan* The first three stages will be Reimu investigating some particularly strange Incident and Marisa following after Reimu wondering what happened to her. The post-boss dialogue in stage 3 has the boss saying "hah, I'm not done yet!" for both versions and the demo ends there, but the full game will have the stage 3 boss apparently killing them. Then you start over from stage 1 playing as Renko and Maribel respectively as they accidentally end up in Gensokyo. You get a different stage 3 boss, and the previous stage 3 boss is now the stage 5 boss, and the goal is now to rescue Reimu and Marisa.
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RENKO AND MARIBEL CAN'T FLY ASSHOLE
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Then they will run and throw hats at people.
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TH13 sould have a gimmick stage where it's all horizontal.
that would be a amusing change.
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東方眼鏡奴 ～ Phantasmagoria of Testosterone
Only playable character is Rinnosuke
Gimmick: you can't fire bullets
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I'd be surprised if there was another game this year. From the sounds of it, it seems ZUN was depressed about something before the release of Double Spoiler, so maybe he only had the drive to do one game.
As for the next game, it'll have bullets, and Reimu and Marisa will appear as playable characters. There will be six stages, plus an extra, and it'll have good music.
Zun was depressed? Where was this made apparent?
Anyway I think that a Phantasmagoria game, while possible, isn't likely. Not unlikely either.
Personally I have a hunch that I'll like the next one more than most of the series. I personally hope hatate becomes the next "slut", and Sanae drifts back to mediocraty. Though it might take another phantasmagoria game to gracefully start the next slut conspiracy theory =p.
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東方眼鏡奴 ～ Phantasmagoria of Testosterone
Only playable character is Rinnosuke
Gimmick: you can't fire bullets
It will be a beat 'em up.
It will feature Rinnosuke, who plays like Mike Haggar; Unzan, who plays like Mike Haggar; and Genji, who plays like Mike Haggar.
The endboss will be Meiling's twin sister.
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Zun was depressed? Where was this made apparent?
I believe someone translated his Twitters the days before DS's release, and he said something about "feeling much better now." If I'm wrong, that's just another strike against me. :S
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The twin sister will be dressed like M Bison.
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I believe someone translated his Twitters the days before DS's release, and he said something about "feeling much better now." If I'm wrong, that's just another strike against me. :S
Oh, that's nothing. I was like "ZUN IS QUITTING ITS OVER ITS ALLL....OVVEERRR!!!! *wrists*" for a minute.
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...I don't even need to voice my speculations, do I~?
Ahem... But apart from Rin Satsuki... Hmmm... I suppose a new Phantasmagoria game would be nice...
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*deadpan* The first three stages will be Reimu investigating some particularly strange Incident and Marisa following after Reimu wondering what happened to her. The post-boss dialogue in stage 3 has the boss saying "hah, I'm not done yet!" for both versions and the demo ends there, but the full game will have the stage 3 boss apparently killing them. Then you start over from stage 1 playing as Renko and Maribel respectively as they accidentally end up in Gensokyo. You get a different stage 3 boss, and the previous stage 3 boss is now the stage 5 boss, and the goal is now to rescue Reimu and Marisa.
Was actually going to speculate something like this, insofar as his re-visiting the fork-in-the-path thingy for Imperishable Night is concerned. More forks in the path: that's what I predict.
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I wouldn't mind something like CtC, where each girl goes to investigate but takes completely separate paths for the first 3 stages.
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I'd like to bring up that reincarnation factory plot up again. Except this time I correct my previous error: I meant stork youkai, not ostrich youkai. I keep mixing up their names :ohdear:
Was actually going to speculate something like this, insofar as his re-visiting the fork-in-the-path thingy for Imperishable Night is concerned. More forks in the path: that's what I predict.
This. Preferably a fork-in-the-path at an early stge, like stage 3. In one thread (can't remember which) I suggested that each path lets you face a different faction that are battling each other. The extra stage shows the true culprit and beating him/her up makes the two factions come at peace. Like Sonic Adventure 2, basically.
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Some dragon will explode into the world causing a cataclysm what changes the world forever. Wait, wrong game.
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Some dragon will explode into the world causing a cataclysm what changes the world forever. Wait, wrong game.
And then an empire from another time period with a blatant pig theme around them show up and try to industrialize everything.
At least, that was the game you were referring too, right?
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I'm not even going to say anything...
I'm not going to FUCKING say anything...except this...
"The tale begins as a tragedy."
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And then an empire from another time period with a blatant pig theme around them show up and try to industrialize everything.
At least, that was the game you were referring too, right?
No.
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I don't care, as long as there is loli
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I just hope Touhou 13 isn't going to the chain reaction cause of MoF (as SA and UFO were) but something refreshing. And as long at is has awesome stage 1 opening music. Secretly I prefer a IN style team-up game with IN mechanism. But knowing ZUN, he doesn't do things twice in general.
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I just hope Touhou 13 isn't going to the chain reaction cause of MoF (as SA and UFO were) but something refreshing. And as long at is has awesome stage 1 opening music. Secretly I prefer a IN style team-up game with IN mechanism. But knowing ZUN, he doesn't do things twice in general.
*cough* Double Spoiler *cough*
I'm still hoping for a PoFV game with non-laggy netplay. I'd rather not use adonis and just have it built-in.
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If it's a PoFV game, let's hope this one has danmaku instead of random wandering bullets.
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If it's a PoFV game, let's hope this one has danmaku instead of random wandering bullets.
Is it even possible in a split screen?
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I'm not even going to say anything...
I'm not going to FUCKING say anything...except this...
"The tale begins as a tragedy."
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Whaddayou talkin' 'bout, foo? I don't remember none o' that! You just a crazy man, seein' things what ain't there.
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Whaddayou talkin' 'bout, foo? I don't remember none o' that! You just a crazy man, seein' things what ain't there.
I agree, hopefully TH13 will introduce another kappa.
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*cough* Double Spoiler *cough*
DS != regular Touhou "Reimu goes kicking ass with her girls" game.
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What happened to Lyrica? :(
Moved to a secret character.
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Option B: TH01
Basically ZUN remakes the first five games as a prequel series, making story/character rewrites to jive with current canon, making games he's comfortable releasing.
Of course, that means TH01 will be practically new.
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You know what? Horizontal Phantasmagoria yeaaaaaah
Would be game changing and everyone will complain
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Option B: TH01
Basically ZUN remakes the first five games as a prequel series, making story/character rewrites to jive with current canon, making games he's comfortable releasing.
Of course, that means TH01 will be practically new.
I actually hope he doesn't do anything like this, so it can remain vague enough that we can come up with our own fanworks. ;)
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You know what? Horizontal Phantasmagoria yeaaaaaah
Would be game changing and everyone will complain
I suck at horizontal shmups. :V
I actually hope he doesn't do anything like this, so it can remain vague enough that we can come up with our own fanworks. ;)
I agree completely. One of the greatest attractions of Touhou is the way ZUN almost encourages us to make fanworks.
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You know what? Horizontal Phantasmagoria yeaaaaaah
Play PoFV tate'd instead BV
Horizontal shmups are pretty fun anyway. I had a great time with Progear and Scarlet Meister (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m_9R9-BblQ).
But I'm begging for a TLB.
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I speculate that it's going to be awesome.
You don't need to know know about a Touhou :V
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I want an Ichirin-Murasa team for phantasmagoria. Murasa dropping anchors in her screen, constantly damaging fairies that hit it, also ANCHOR SHAPE SCOPE! And then Ichirin + Unzan dropping insane brofists in the opponents screen.
AWESOME
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Byakuren will be playable, though you'll have to 1cc Lunatic and press D key on Neco Arc Chaos to unlock her.
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Byakuren will be playable, though you'll have to 1cc Lunatic and press D key on Neco Arc Chaos to unlock her.
Unfortunately, she has a hit box about the size of the Vic Viper Lord British.
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My idea, another Phantamagoria game. The main difference, instead of 1v1, it's 2v2. One character will be on their own side firing at anything that comes into range. The other character, when circumstances allow, will be assisting the player and interfering with the opponent.
I quite like that idea.
Garden Master's Expedition: Yuka & Elly
And that would be awsome. I'd love to see some more PC-98 characters return. But sadly the chance of that happening isn't too great.
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Unfortunately, she has a hit box about the size of the Vic Viper Lord British.
[strike]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY079Nh2THQ[/strike] :D
I'd like to see a Phantasmagoria too, where the old windows characters and the newer ones do participate.. (please ZUN, don't try to Touhou-fy Change Air Blade..) ..teamplay would be a nice twist..
seeing that ZUN has apparently been "inspired" by Battle Garegga/Armed Police Batrider (due to the bombing) for MoF ( with the faith chaining and generic bombing from PoFV, but without PoFV's bullet/fairy/spirit chaining ), Shikigami No Shiro's bonus for killing enemies while grazing for SA, and Raiden Fighters Jet's medal lumping (except in RFJ you collect the "mega-medal", while in UFO you destroy the summoned UFO, and UFO doesn't have the DX Medals and bonus message chaining -- which StB and DS have, in a modified manner).. I ask myself.. who's going to provide inspiration for ZUN now? Sure, there are lots of interesting scoring systems, but they're kinda difficult to Touhou-fy.. perhaps ZUN will have his next game have graze level-ups which grant temporary invincibility (as in PsyVariar)?
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If it's gonna be a normal Touhou game, I hope Alice is gonna be playable. Due to how alot of fan work has her working with Reimu and Marisa, I already consider her sort of a main character.
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seeing that ZUN has apparently been "inspired" by Battle Garegga/Armed Police Batrider (due to the bombing) for MoF ( with the faith chaining and generic bombing from PoFV, but without PoFV's bullet/fairy/spirit chaining ), Shikigami No Shiro's bonus for killing enemies while grazing for SA, and Raiden Fighters Jet's medal lumping (except in RFJ you collect the "mega-medal", while in UFO you destroy the summoned UFO, and UFO doesn't have the DX Medals and bonus message chaining -- which StB and DS have, in a modified manner).. I ask myself.. who's going to provide inspiration for ZUN now? Sure, there are lots of interesting scoring systems, but they're kinda difficult to Touhou-fy.. perhaps ZUN will have his next game have graze level-ups which grant temporary invincibility (as in PsyVariar)?
I wouldn't be too worried about ZUN running out of ideas. Game makers regularly borrow elements from other games. The list you come up with here are aspects that he may or may not have borrowed from these other games, but Touhou still has a very distinct gameplay, storyline and artwork.
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I wouldn't be too worried about ZUN running out of ideas. Game makers regularly borrow elements from other games. The list you come up with here are aspects that he may or may not have borrowed from these other games, but Touhou still has a very distinct gameplay, storyline and artwork.
I'm not complaining about ZUN using elements from other games, in fact I like how he has, in a degree, touhou-fied the gameplay from the games I've mentioned above (but not limited to them (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_influences) ), except that there's still often emphasis on grazing ( and occasionally, point-blank grazing, which is.. irritating, to me ), and no obvious way to know where your playthroughs can be improved, score-wise, other than trial-and-error or watching replays from other players.
I can't help but think that Touhou often references/homages other shmups/series.. when I look at this (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9106563) for example.. and since grazing apparently has come to stay in this series, at least ZUN could make it more flexible or fun to do (for example, discouraging point-blank grazing as it can make scoreplay really inflexible, as in, "do it perfectly or else you'll lose too many points to even bother keep playing", and not having the bullet you just grazed be invalidated for further grazes; that way, you could still get better rewards for grazing masses of other bullets while being able to keep a grazing chain with a single bullet/stream, if there was such a grazing chain mechanism)
Anyways, if the next Touhou is a "traditional" Touhou shmup, I'd be really happy if the stages and boss fights can be at least as fun as playing Phantasm Romance 2.5 Plus. (of course, the "maze stages" would be highly unlikely to appear.. but the pacing was well done on that game, as well as the need to move around the screen plus, I still wanna reach its 4th Extra Stage (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8922422) dammit)
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Hisou Tensoku gets a glitch because Nitori fucked up somewhere along the line when building it, and she teams up with Suwako to stop its rampage across Gensokyo.
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I figure it has to be either another shooting game, or a PoFV-like game, as mentioned (I suppose one could say we're overdue for another of those). We've already had a fighting game and a photography game recently, and a whole number would have to be next.
Also, it will be awesome and feature a unique system that sets it apart from the other Touhou games.
There will be people who don't like said unique system and claim it or several boss spell cards to be bullshit.
There will probably be a boss whose lasers curve in stranger ways than Shou's/Byakuren's.
I also predict Sanae will be playable again (although not necessarily).
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Six Stages
New Power System
Graze System
New Bomb System
New Characters
Good Music
New Feature (in game)
New Feature (Similar to spell practice / last spells, etc.)
Extra Stage
Phantasm Stage
Reimu + Marisa playable, with a new (possibly) unlockable character. Probably Satori + Okuu, Satori + Orin, Satori + Koishi, etc.
You can play teams. (Example: Reimu + Sanae, Marisa + Byakuren)
Touhou 13 will be rain-themed. Most likely not ocean themed.
I don't think Sakuya is coming back, therefore Mima is most likely not coming back.
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If this doesn't happen, then another Phantasmagoria.
Touhou 13 will increase the system requirements, and will bring some flashy new effects. The game resolution WILL NOT change. (640 x 480)
And it will eat up 560 - 720 MB.
Net play will work smoothly. Use of teams or solo characters.
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Am I the only one who doesn't want teams? :V
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please play Armed Police Batrider, before saying that you don't want teams :V
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4472682 (fast-forward to 6:17, and tell me you're not in awe by seeing the guy fighting such hard-to-see Mahou Daisakusen bosses while using Battle Garegga characters, and vice-versa -- Glow Squid lacks its awesome bgms from Garegga, though..)
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I don't know if the APB team system would work all that well for Touhou as the first thing that I thought of was me playing along as the UFO team and thinking "Crap I just died, now I'm stuck with shooting cloud fists. Cloud fists suck. You would think they are cool but they are the worst bullet pattern ever. ZUN must have been sober when he designed this bullet pattern. I want my curvy lasers back. "
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playing for score in Batrider means making teams consisting of characters from Garegga and
Batrider edit: Mahou Daisakusen (besides choosing three different option shot types and three different ship types, for fighting the two Highway-stage ninjas), anyways, so you'd want to drop Ichirin if you didn't want to play as her :p (however, I dislike Batrider's aura usage almost as much as I dislike grazing in Touhou..)
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maybe, the next touhou could be of the StB-kind as well. Just sayin'. It's unlikely, but possible.
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If Teams are there... the Solo Players should at least be worth playing as, too!
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Hm, I like the shota dragon idea...
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maybe, the next touhou could be of the StB-kind as well. Just sayin'. It's unlikely, but possible.
If it is, it's going to either start duplicating characters who have already appeared in one of the previous two danmaku photography games, introduce a bunch of new characters, cover PC-98 characters, or be really short. There are only 8 characters from the Windows games that have not been in either Double Spoiler or Shoot the Bullet: Daiyousei, Koakuma, Lily, Yuka, Mystia, and the Prismriver Sisters. That's at most four stages. Only one character, Suika, has appeared in both DS and StB. While I'd like to see some spellcards (and more info) for Lily, Daiyousei, and Koakuma, I'm not going to hold my breath. I really doubt that we'll see another danmaku photography game soon.
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If it is, it's going to either start duplicating characters who have already appeared in one of the previous two danmaku photography games, introduce a bunch of new characters, cover PC-98 characters, or be really short. There are only 8 characters from the Windows games that have not been in either Double Spoiler or Shoot the Bullet: Daiyousei, Koakuma, Lily, Yuka, Mystia, and the Prismriver Sisters. That's at most four stages. Only one character, Suika, has appeared in both DS and StB. While I'd like to see some spellcards (and more info) for Lily, Daiyousei, and Koakuma, I'm not going to hold my breath. I really doubt that we'll see another danmaku photography game soon.
I second this, I doubt ZUN will make two photography games in a row, it strays from the main concept of touhou as well...
I'm going to bet my money on the more "regular" types like IN and EoSD
besides theres already been two "filler" games, 12.3 and 12.5, about time Zun made a new "real" touhou game (as in 13) (also note that the fighting and photo ones are all decimals, not whole numbers)
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So what about Touhou 12.7? It follows the number scheme quite nicely. :V
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So what about Touhou 12.7? It follows the number scheme quite nicely. :V
OH HELL NO
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What if ZUN adds a 'sword system' like in Radiant Silvergun? The sword deflects certain kinds of bullets and does heavy damage to bosses. Reimu and Sanae would use their gohei, Marisa a spinning star and Sakuya would just swing a large sword/knife.
Also, it would be awesome if certain bosses would fire a screen filling spark which you will have to repel with your own spark in a button mash sequence :V
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Also, it would be awesome if certain bosses would fire a screen filling spark which you will have to repel with your own spark in a button mash sequence :V
I see what you did there :V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHjyWMVIav4) (though Metal Black also counts..)
alternatively, why not lock-on weapons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeiUHikDTLU)?
Or a third button? (could have a lot of uses: charge up shot while maintaining the rapid-fire shot.. or a secondary shot like in ESP Ra.De, or a function like Dodonpachi's Hyper meter -- Hakurei Counter becomes canon? lols --, or a slowdown/speed up like in ESP Galuda, or a Reflect Barrier like in Giga Wing.. so many possibilities :p )
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Or a third button?
Ahh~ +++++
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Personally, I'd like to see the return of teams again, only you can pick freely out any individual character with a 'leader' character who the player controls and an invincible support character who flies around the screen killing other enemies or picking up items about to fall off the screen and that kind of stuff.
Like, Marisa would go flying around like a maniac using piercing lasers, Suika could gather all the items if there's nothing for her to shoot. Reimu would have standard homing shots but could give her -1 pixel hitbox to whoever you're playing as, Sanae as a support would extend the deathbomb timer. Other characters would have abilities activated upon grazing like SA (or grazing fills up a meter where you press a third button to activate), where Nazrin or something would create more point items, or Sakuya would slow all the bullets down.
Ha ha. Speculation ftw.
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I actually really like that idea. Using only one shottype, but choosing your support character gives you variation in how things are handled, like the humans' skills in IN (Marisa auto-collects without full power, Sakuya slows down falling items, etc).
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I'm expecting a it to have a bit of a steam punk flair to it. I've noticed that in SA,12.3, and DS Gensokyo has been showing signs of slight technological progress, So maybe we'll see some more Victorian Era cloths or something like that
HUUUUGE guess, but, I imagine a stage with train tracks in the background with the boss being a tsukomogami Steam Engine with a condutor's hat, a pocket watch, and a nice suit, Possibly with ZUN style arrangments of the 12.3 Menu and Ending themes as the stage and boss themes
But then again, that's just me :V
WANT. :<
I wonder what kind of youkai would be the bosses? A griffin would be cool *-*
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I dunno where to say, but if people haven't noticed it yet, ANOTHER Reitaisai will be held this year September. ZUN will be there.
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Indeed he will. Of course, that's not to say he'll release a game, but he'll release something at the least.
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which means if he will not release his game on comiket it will be reitaisai, thus increasing the chance it will be a standard shooting game
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which means if he will not release his game on comiket it will be reitaisai, thus increasing the chance it will be a standard shooting game
I think that's a little too soon... If he does release something, it might be some sort of expansion pack for DS.
I'll give it until December or start of next year for a shooting game.
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WANT. :<
I wonder what kind of youkai would be the bosses? A griffin would be cool *-*
Stereotypical Victorian Loli. Complete with monocle and top hat. :V
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Perhaps the next plot will involve an aura that forces something like emotion on people and it will be seen as an incident. the last boss could be hiding in a legendary object that emanates the aura and the final boss will have clothes with many colors that do not match. just some ideas i believe are touhou-ish.
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Perhaps the next plot will involve an aura that forces something like emotion on people and it will be seen as an incident. the last boss could be hiding in a legendary object that emanates the aura and the final boss will have clothes with many colors that do not match. just some ideas i believe are touhou-ish.
HEART!
Wait, Heart goes after Water... *shot* :V *shot again*
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Perhaps the next plot will involve an aura that forces something like emotion on people and it will be seen as an incident. the last boss could be hiding in a legendary object that emanates the aura and the final boss will have clothes with many colors that do not match. just some ideas i believe are touhou-ish.
That sound a bit like Scarlet Weather Rhapsody's plot, no?
The scarlet aura brings out the "emotions" in form of weather.
The legendary object, the sword of hisou, who emanates the aura.
Tenshi with her colorful clothing.
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4 PCs:
Reimu, Marisa, Sanae, Alice
If there are teams, 4 teams:
Reimu + Sanae
Marisa + Alice
Aya + New Tengu Character, or maybe Nitori / Some other resident of Youkai Mountain?
Nazrin + Shou
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If Touhou 13 has teams I doubt that Reimu and Sanae would join forces as they each have more likely candidates for partners. The real question is how many shot types would there be and how would they be grouped. My guesses for partners would be
Reimu - Yukari as always. It's slightly hard to say what she will do since IN and Reimu A in SA were quite different.
Marisa -Alice as always. Probably lasers too.
Sanae - Sanae her gods. In fact Sanae in UFO is pretty much an SA team without the bonus skill and the second person chiming in with dialogue.
IF there are two partners for each of the above that will probably be the game there. If they only have one apiece then there are two options.
Shou - Obvious choices are Nazrin (they are sort of paired already) and Byakuren (master and servant pairing just like IN)
Sakuya If the story has a way to work in Remilia given she doesn't go out in the daytime but if not Meiling or a far off chance of Patchouli.
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I would say that, in the event of teams occurring again...
Reimu + Yukari
The Homing Type
Reimu, unfocused, fires homing shots. Yukari fires needles, but in a manner of EoSD/PCB (ie - not the strongest at long range,)
Reimu and Yukari have always been together. So... Yeah. Reimu's bomb would be orbs as always, Yukari's would involve trains.
Marisa + Byakuren
The Forward Focus Type
Marisa, unfocused, would fire trees again, in a slight spread. At long range, it's the strongest unfocused. Byakuren fires Star Maelstrom lasers that start going out but converge at the closest enemy directly in front. Plus piercing. Definitely the strongest at range.
They're both magicians, and in MarisaB's scenario - the only confirmed canon - Byakuren offers Marisa a reward, though that might be just returning home. Besides, since Marisa's partner isn't a stage 3 boss, she isn't worthless. Marisa bombs using the Master Spark, Byakuren goes Superhuman.
Ichirin + Murasa
The Spread Type
Ichirin shoots bullets in a pattern resembling her midboss nonspell in a 90~ degree angle. Murasa fires 3 anchors at a very slow rate of fire that deal relatively massive damage. They're still spread out with about 30~ degrees between them, but hitting a boss with all three is the strongest DPS in the game. With just one, though, it's on par with Reimu. Oh, and they explode for splash damage.
I can't really think of any pairing for a UFO team, though Shou and Nazrin make sense. Ichirin bombs using Unzan BROFISTS and Murasa uses Dipper Creeping Closer for little base damage but a long time to shotgun.
Sanae + Nue
The Remilia/MarisaC Type
Sanae fires stars in a slight spread that still deals respectable damage at any range. Nue uses UFOs to position anywhere, but they have infinite range like Remilia but slightly less damage than Mari/Bya.
Sanae B in UFO pretty much kidnaps Nue to take a picture, but who knows what happens after that. Sanae is trying to become dependent, so her bomb doesn't involve her gods. Nue fires orbs everywhere that change into random bullets that then fly into enemies.
Haha, I still would prefer having a player character and a support. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6079.msg350552#msg350552)
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I want to say something about elemental powerups that change the properties of your shot and, depending on what type you have, will do more damage to the enemy. Like a Fire shot will dominate plant type enemies or something...
...But I don't think you can do that in Danmakufu :V
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I want to say something about elemental powerups that change the properties of your shot and, depending on what type you have, will do more damage to the enemy. Like a Fire shot will dominate plant type enemies or something...
...But I don't think you can do that in Danmakufu :V
Dimahoo
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I want to say something about elemental powerups that change the properties of your shot and, depending on what type you have, will do more damage to the enemy. Like a Fire shot will dominate plant type enemies or something...
...But I don't think you can do that in Danmakufu :V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34VK4BmZiE :) (dunno if counter-element enhanced damage is implemented, though)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34VK4BmZiE :) (dunno if counter-element enhanced damage is implemented, though)
Hey, that's neat. eXceed2nd uses this same mechanic. I think I'd like to see that in a Touhou game.
I'm still holding out for a game with forks in the path where you encounter different bosses, stage backgrounds, music and danmaku depending on which route you decide to take at different points in the game.
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That sound a bit like Scarlet Weather Rhapsody's plot, no?
The scarlet aura brings out the "emotions" in form of weather.
The legendary object, the sword of hisou, who emanates the aura.
Tenshi with her colorful clothing.
Hm, I wasn't thinking of SWR when thinking that up. My bad.
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Lesse, we've had...
Mist
Spring
Moon
Flowers
Faith
Sun/Nuclear
Sky
And if you count SWR you've also had Weather/Heaven.
I dunno about you, but I'd love some kind of EoSD-styled(Single player, two types) with some kind of water theme, as in Gensokyo is starting to get flooded with mystical purple water? :V
Stage 1 boss would be a fairy.
Stage 2 boss would be some tsukomogami/random underwater youkai.
Stage 3 boss would be a fish youkai, but wouldn't look like a mermaid.
Stage 4 boss would be a mermaid-like youkai.
Stage 5 boss would be a ghost/human spirit.
Stage 6 boss would be something like the ruler of underwater-youkai.
EX boss would bring back the Stage 6 boss as middle-boss, and the real boss would be one of her ancestors.
I doubt it'll be exactly like that, but it would be fun~
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I had the same idea, but instead of a flood, it would have been the Misty Lake becoming salty, and strange youkai appearing from it.
Stage 1 would be just above the lake.
Stage 2 would be a strange new cave.
Stage 3 would be a beautiful coral garden or what.
Stage 4 would be the bottom of the sea.
Stage 5 would be an underwater city.
Stage 6 would be a palace, the boss is the Ruler of the city, who explains that this underwater place and the few islands above water is another Gensokyo like place, but on the ocean. They just learned about Gensokyo and they wanted some connections.
Ex would be above the ocean, around the islands, and the Ex-boss would be the Barrier Maiden of this sealed world. Enter brown-skinned loli.
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If the game is anything like that I will cry.
OF JOY.
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I would like another regular Touhou, but maybe with a plot twist, I donno, Mima coming back and forcing Marisa to dye her hair red, stuff like that.
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Enter brown-skinned loli.
Awww, a tanned Loli with tropical clothes would look so pretty~ <3
I agree with this! :V
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I don't think there is a reason to start a new topic for this so...
Look, there isa C78 (http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up4/img/th4_3555.jpg)
Look, it's got bigger and more drunken (http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up4/img/th4_3553.jpg)
Kinda... looks in many ways like PCB, doesn't it? There are stairs, a big tree, ghosts and stuff.
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Wait-WAIT!! This comiket 78 hasn't already happened?
And this is the circle image ZUN made for the possible touhou 13?! O__O
And is that Rin Satsuki/Yamame on it? D:
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I see a shrine gate, a cherry blossom tree, some ghosts, stairs leading to a Stargate and is that Byakuren scroll? There's also the Sun and Moon, possibly something to do with night and day.
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But there's no title or anything. :(
All the circle images for Comikets he's released games at had at least the Japanese game title.
Maybe he'll release a demo? Or maybe even another music CD.
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I think the title is there, the small characters inside the tree.
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I think the title is there, the small characters inside the tree.
Touhou Game Titles are known for having a lot of junk we can't read (Complex Kanji), but never Kana. So maybe that's not it.
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I don't think it matters if it has the title or not. Look at the UFO's image on the collection of 'em all. It doesn't have either the "Touhou" kanji (Is it kanji? Sorry if it isn't) on it.
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Ahh Zun knows how to taunt and confuse so well. Its greater than any power any touhou could have.
And if this game is based around Yamame then I support it 100%.
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Look, it's got bigger and more drunken (http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up4/img/th4_3553.jpg)
The ribbon in that girl's hair looks like Reimu's, but if that's a hairbun behind the tree, then it probably could be Yamame. Not all of the pictures have Reimu's hair shaded in, so...That would be cool if it was Yamame, though.
Anyway, for the text, I can definately recognize "Shanghai Alice" in the big text, but nothing else. For the little text, I can only read the hiragana. So...when romanized, it's like..."**na*i*shouse" or something. The kanji inbetween "na" and "i" looks like one of the kanji from--no wait, I think all games have that kanji. I don't know.
I'm still absolutely terrible at Japanese, though, so it's probably all wrong.
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I would like another regular Touhou, but maybe with a plot twist, I donno, Mima coming back and forcing Marisa to dye her hair red, stuff like that.
We wish here the same thing, everybody wants ol' mima-sama, also I'd like to add that I want a Danmaku or a Phantasmagoria, no StB plots, they're cool, but... we need more Danmakuness :D :3
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I'm starting to doubt that this is an actual release or something. There's no 東方 Kanji or anything. It really might just be a music release.
When is C78 again? I'm really confused about the Comiket schedule... I had thought it was Winter?
Oh, and Zun already said once that he's not bringing anymore PC-98 characters anymore. I'll dig up the quote in a bit.
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Comikets are August and December. If it's not a game release, it's kind of weird. All of the main games since TH06 have been released between August 10-20.
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Well, yeah, but has he ever released a game at Reitaisai before either? I think if he isn't going to release a game this time, then a music CD is a good bet.
Even on the big scan, I can't make out all the kanji clearly enough to read it though.
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When I saw that ad, the first thing that came to mind was that ZUN is just going to sell copies of his old games--I can spot elements of PCB, IN, MoF, and UFO. I also find it peculiar that he hasn't announced a Comiket attendance date and table location on his website or blog yet. I know he's typically late with making such announcements, but it's getting really close to August now. Many other doujin circles that I follow have already announced theirs, some having done so a month or more ago. Is there anything on ZUN's Twitter?
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Comikets are August and December. If it's not a game release, it's kind of weird. All of the main games since TH06 have been released between August 10-20.
So Comiket 78 is August, right?
And Zun did release DS just recently. I'm betting that he's probably releasing something either December or next year. It's just too early...
And I couldn't dig up the original quote. I lost where the thread was. (It was about if you could ask Zun something, then what would it be)
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Well... the only visible assumption we can make is that it is Hakugyokurou on the top, I guess?
Although it's weird, what would be the link between Yamame and it?
Did ZUN kill Yamame?
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My drunken theory based on the comiket flyer is this:
It's a game based on dreams! The heroine is asleep, dreaming about past incidents they had to solve. Stages 1-3 are these past events (possibly being major characters watered down for the stage). Then things start going a little whacky. They start dreaming about things that never happened, new people start showing up. Then you get to Stage 6 and find out that the big bad has been invading peoples dreams all over Gensokyo and tonight it was the heroines turn. Then it's a giant "GTFO MY DREAMS" battle.
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I think the "bun" looks a little more like two hills. I may be wrong, though.
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everybody wants ol' mima-sama
Filthy dirty LIES.
Also I'm not really expecting another game this year. ZUN already gave us Double Spoiler. I'd be more surprised if he actually had a game to present.
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Filthy dirty LIES.
Also I'm not really expecting another game this year. ZUN already gave us Double Spoiler. I'd be more surprised if he actually had a game to present.
True...If a new game were to come out this year, I expect it'd come out in early December at the earliest.
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True...If a new game were to come out this year, I expect it'd come out in early December at the earliest.
Or maybe that second Reitaisai...
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Or maybe that second Reitaisai...
When is that, by the way?
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http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up4/img/th4_3553.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081113104417/touhou/images/thumb/5/54/Th06RinSatsuki.jpg/200px-Th06RinSatsuki.jpg
Maybe Rin Satsuki in it???
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My drunken theory based on the comiket flyer is this:
It's a game based on dreams! The heroine is asleep, dreaming about past incidents they had to solve. Stages 1-3 are these past events (possibly being major characters watered down for the stage). Then things start going a little whacky. They start dreaming about things that never happened, new people start showing up. Then you get to Stage 6 and find out that the big bad has been invading peoples dreams all over Gensokyo and tonight it was the heroines turn. Then it's a giant "GTFO MY DREAMS" battle.
- final boss is Mima, final stage is the Holy Palanquin ( supposed to be turned into a shrine, but whatever )
- when she's defeated, she pulls out a detonator, and wants to take the heroines with her
- however, the heroines manage to escape aboard Evil Eye Sigma, before the Black Noah Holy Palanquin self-destructs
- in the end, it turns out that everything in the game was just Cirno's dream
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I think the important question here is, what do the previous flyers tell us about games that were released then? Damn little, actually.
I'm casting my vote with the "extremely surprised if yet another Touhou game is released this year". A new music CD, sure. Touhou 13? Not likely.
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http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up4/img/th4_3553.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081113104417/touhou/images/thumb/5/54/Th06RinSatsuki.jpg/200px-Th06RinSatsuki.jpg
Maybe Rin Satsuki in it???
I still see Yamame more or a totally new touhou that grows trees out of her head.
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http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up4/img/th4_3553.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081113104417/touhou/images/thumb/5/54/Th06RinSatsuki.jpg/200px-Th06RinSatsuki.jpg
Maybe Rin Satsuki in it???
Woah. Woooaaaaahhhhhh. That would be awesome.
It's a game based on dreams! The heroine is asleep, dreaming about past incidents they had to solve. Stages 1-3 are these past events (possibly being major characters watered down for the stage). Then things start going a little whacky. They start dreaming about things that never happened, new people start showing up. Then you get to Stage 6 and find out that the big bad has been invading peoples dreams all over Gensokyo and tonight it was the heroines turn. Then it's a giant "GTFO MY DREAMS" battle.
Multiple incidents means recent characters means a Phantasmagoria game! :OOO
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Hey guiz Toohoo 13 has Phastasm in it, teams and durrr hurr the cell phone signal
I'm totally not getting my hopes up at all.
I'm half expecting the next game to be a Phantasmagoria anyway.
And, Zun already confirmed that he's not bringing back any more PC 98. However, I can't find the source where I read that, but it was legit.
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And, Zun already confirmed that he's not bringing back any more PC 98. However, I can't find the source where I read that, but it was legit.
He said he's not going to bring back PC 98 just to bring back PC 98. I'm pretty sure he didn't close any doors.
It's just very very unlikely. ZUN likes new characters.
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He said he's not going to bring back PC 98 just to bring back PC 98. I'm pretty sure he didn't close any doors.
Wait, what?
Darn it. I wish I could dig up the comment, but I can't find it anywhere.
It has to do with Zun owing some of the copyrights to Amusement Makers, that's why he's not bringing back any more characters prior to EoSD.
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Well, TH13 should have Hatate in it.
That is all I can think of.
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I hope he brings back spell card practice...
It was one of the reasons why IN is my favorite.
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I hope he brings back spell card practice...
It was one of the reasons why IN is my favorite.
This. Especially if the level is a pain in the ass and you barely have any lives left by the time you get to the boss (Stage 4b, I believe it'd be called, where you fight Marisa) or you just want to practice one card.
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And why Hourai Jewel exists. And why it's such a retarded streaming spell.
Anyway, about that C78 picture, I could only make out shitouse(?) from the hiragana bunch. From the background it does seem to have something to do with day and night (though the right-hand part looked like a big ass harp at first glance). And there aren't any kanji for Touhou ? :/
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And there aren't any kanji for Touhou ? :/
東方
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I mean in the picture of the cover-whatever :V
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I mean in the picture of the cover-whatever :V
Oh, of course not. That's why I doubt it's a game.
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Speculation has never been my thing. I'll just be interested to see whatever ZUN comes up with next.
Though it would be nice if Sakuya is playable again...
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A new music CD, sure.
releasing a new music CD would make me as happy as releasing Touhou 13 would.
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As long as he's not remixing stuff again :getdown:
(not that I have a problem with it, but I prefer new songs)
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yeah, one of the worst remixes IMO has to be patchoulis theme. No matter how much you try, you can't remix that song without destroying it.
anyway, I think touhou 13 will continue the chain of events that started in 10. Maybe Byakuren will be one of the playable characters? Maybe, but it's safe to say that it will DEFINATELY involve reimu and youkai. :V
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yeah, one of the worst remixes IMO has to be patchoulis theme. No matter how much you try, you can't remix that song without destroying it.
anyway, I think touhou 13 will continue the chain of events that started in 10. Maybe Byakuren will be one of the playable characters? Maybe, but it's safe to say that it will DEFINATELY involve reimu and youkai. :V
Patchy is one of my fave chars so I always want to find a good remix for her. Admittably there are few but I these two are a good start if you like none:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0j8nNILSUQ (metalish)
I don't like electronic music typically, bu tI think sensative heart's version is quite good as well if you like that kind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLD3-638lMk
The remix in the fangame Mystical chain is perhaps the best of all. Unfortunately it's too s hort unless you repeat it game-style, at which point the uber intro gets lost after the first play >=(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9zCFVYQXzs&feature=PlayList&p=9FA0CC820048E37A&playnext=1&index=10
I don't really have any speculation about Touhou 13. Half of me hopes it's not a phantasm game, half of me does. I mean I disliked them in Touhou so far, but I keep hearing something about a versus shmup game (I forget the name, something sweets or fairies I think) that is quite good, so part of me wants a good one if Zun can pull it off.
If there is a phantasm game, I hope to god the remixes in the game are better than the last phantasm game (I dislike almost all of them compared to the original).
I think Hatate being in it is a safe bet though.
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No 13 for you yet
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Clearly there will never be a 13. The decimal games will continue until ZUN dies.
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So that is most likely a Music CD then.
Patchouli's theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9am_5wxI0TQ
I liked the intro (and the entire off-vocal version), though it didn't sound like her theme at all :V
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TOUHOU 12.8
Starting our favorite idiot fairy.
Zun's trolling our ass so hard, but I'll gladly try this game out. Don't lie, I know some of you are going to be raging.
Well, Touhou 13 better be a goddamn good game if he's stalling it this far.
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I am aware that Cirno is one of the most absurdly-popular characters in the series.
I understand that by including Cirno in a product, Touhou fans are much more likely to buy it.
I realize that this is a marketing strategy/stalling plan, to stave off fans crying for Touhou 13 by giving their beloved Cirno her own game in the meantime.
I FUCKING HATE CIRNO.
Also some (http://www.moetron.com/2010/07/22/touhou-12-8-%E2%80%93-the-great-fairy-wars-announced/) links (http://kourindou.exblog.jp/) for people who are confused because no one seems to have linked to the announcements yet for some reason.
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Well, Touhou 13 better be a goddamn good game if he's stalling it this far.
Please explain how he's stalling. ???
Pretty sure everyone expected this after 12.3.
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Please explain how he's stalling. ???
Pretty sure everyone expected this after 12.3.
Well 12.3 doesn't really suggest that, you see dividing evenly it's .33, .66, 1.0. So, with the fighting game, AND stb..you get the idea. Since going .33 probably looks funny, he probably settled for just 3.
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Well 12.3 doesn't really suggest that, you see dividing evenly it's .33, .66, 1.0. So, with the fighting game, AND stb..you get the idea. Since going .33 probably looks funny, he probably settled for just 3.
I think he was going for 12, 12.25, 12.5, 12.75, 13. Then he rounded to the nearest tenth.
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I think he was going for 12, 12.25, 12.5, 12.75, 13. Then he rounded to the nearest tenth.
But he's a programmer, programmres truncate, they don't round! gawd >=P
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I seriously hope he has something up his sleeve for 13.
as for this one, I hope a few of the nameless characters appear, like daiyousai (sp?), some of the nameless midbosses from pc-98, and perhaps koakuma if this isn't a strictly fairies only game.
This announcement makes me wonder whether he's doing this on purpose?
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Clearly there will never be a 13. The decimal games will continue until ZUN dies.
Curse of the Heavens "Touhou 13"
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Fuckdammit 13 better BE GOOD, that's all I say.
Actually, I'm better off thinking he's going to skip 13 altogether and just go with 14. You know the deal. 13's bad luck. =P
/cirno is a bigger hoe than Aya and Raymoo =P
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Fuckdammit 13 better BE GOOD, that's all I say.
Or else what? Gonna challenge him to an IaMP duel, where if he loses he must disembowel himself?
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Fuckdammit 13 better BE GOOD, that's all I say.
Actually, I'm better off thinking he's going to skip 13 altogether and just go with 14. You know the deal. 13's bad luck. =P
/cirno is a bigger hoe than Aya and Raymoo =P
But clearly not more than Sanae, that trashy bish.
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I'm not mad you guys.
And I suck at IaMP. I don't play 7.5 because I don't know the controls =.[
And Sanae is a good girl.
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So apparently Cirno trolls three fairies and that's it?
Hirasaka Makoto, huh?
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Challenge him to online Spades then.
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All the Sanae hate makes no fucking sense to me.
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All the Sanae hate makes no fucking sense to me.
I think everyone's mad because she "replaced" Sakuya as the third playable character.
But Sanae is a good girl :ohdear:
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Hypothesis: There won't be a TH13. It'll go straight from 12.8 to 13.2.
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Challenge him to online Spades then.
Strip Mahjong
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The Sanae hate doesn't make sense to me either. If you want to call Sanae a slut, then what is Reimu? oh Ha ha, old chap!
And Sakuya mentioned in Phantasmagoria that Youkai hunting was the work of a shrine maiden. Durrr
Fanbase is retarded.
However, Cirno fans are going to flood the fanbase when the game goes out. A lot of these tend to be weaboos =/
I like Cirno, but I do wish she was stronger. C'mon, she's just a little shit in Perfect Cherry Blossom...
But her attacks in EoSD are annoying.
And I can't use her in UNL. Too difficult.
I guess I just WANT to like Cirno, but I'm running out of reasons why. =/
*snaps fingers* I got it! Zun should make a game where she is Extra boss.
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If 13 is such a bad luck number, then why there's a Touhou 4?
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If 13 is such a bad luck number, then why there's a Touhou 4?
Good point. +1
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I'm honestly not that panicked about Cirno fans going crazy about this. I mean ... why should I be worried? Cirno needs fans.
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My heart still belongs to Letty. =/
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I'm honestly not that panicked about Cirno fans going crazy about this. They're crazy to begin with.
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Ha! True enough.
Speaking of which: more about Mima fans here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=4500.msg208611#msg208611).
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Strip Mahjong
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The Sanae hate doesn't make sense to me either. If you want to call Sanae a slut, then what is Reimu? oh Ha ha, old chap!
And Sakuya mentioned in Phantasmagoria that Youkai hunting was the work of a shrine maiden. Durrr
Fanbase is retarded.
However, Cirno fans are going to flood the fanbase when the game goes out. A lot of these tend to be weaboos =/
I like Cirno, but I do wish she was stronger. C'mon, she's just a little shit in Perfect Cherry Blossom...
But her attacks in EoSD are annoying.
And I can't use her in UNL. Too difficult.
I guess I just WANT to like Cirno, but I'm running out of reasons why. =/
*snaps fingers* I got it! Zun should make a game where she is Extra boss.
The fact that Sanae was forgotton in the Cirno is a slut comment was just BEGGING for it.
I hate Sanae myself, but I don't think of her as a slut, I dislike her for other reasons which I've stated several times, and I wont get into this time >=)
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Ha! True enough.
Speaking of which: more about Mima fans here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=4500.msg208611#msg208611).
it's easy to just link to some random poster which happens to agree with you. It's hard for me, thought, to respect the opinion of people who disrespect other people's character preferences.
And then you call Bananamatic a troll. Nice job, keep going.
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I apologize. I was just teasing. I try to be relaxed about my own faves, too. No offense or disrespect intended.
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Also, you were equating "fans of Mima" with "people who go 'IS MIMA GONNA BE IN THE NEXT GAME!? IS MIMA GONNA BE IN THE NEXT GAME!?'"
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Yes, that too. Thanks.
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excuse me too.. I've heard a lot of Mima-hating and trolling, and while I don't associate with people who "demand" Mima's appearance (rather, I'd be really happy if she made a proper appearance, but not outright dismiss a new Touhou game if she's not on it), I thought that you really meant to offend Mima fans, because you even asked why they liked her, before, and were still poking fun like this (now I know that other people are more laid back about their favorite hobbies, than me..). ITT this Mima fan takes his Mima too seriously :p
Still, there are some who like to make fun of Mima fans (I don't know exactly which part of it, though), and then I retort like in some threads before..
Please let's not make people ask "since when this thread became MimaMimaMima?".. it's getting old.. predictable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81ptFSA4mk)..
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I don't like or dislike Mima. I don't know enough about her to have an opinion since I haven't played any of the PC-98 games in English.
But you guys forgot to mention all the fans who spam videos with:
みまああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ!!!!!!
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Back on topic:
Four games in a year now. Do you honestly think 13 will come out this year? He's been superproductive, but man.
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Well, I was expecting him to release a game this comiket because of the whole "Oh crap, I simply forgot to sign up" nonsense last comiket (or reitetsai or however you spell it, I forget which it was). I think I read he actually DID have a demo to show off at that point, but didn't get around to it since he forgot to attend for that event. I have little doubt this game was what he was hoping to show off since it's already pretty much done at this point.
MAYBE he'll stuff in a new game next event though due to him having people help with the artwork for this Cirno game...But I wont hold my breath.
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I'd like to know why people chose Mima to obsess about, as opposed to some other
horrible random PC-98 character with little known about them, like Gengetsu.
My apologies, I jest. >: D To each his own favorite.
Back on topic:
Four games in a year now. Do you honestly think 13 will come out this year? He's been superproductive, but man.
I'd say next summer. Maybe a music CD in between now and then. He's been shitting content pretty consistantly for the past year, so I'd say he'll take a bit of a break before releasing his next huge masterpiece. No complaints if he decides not to take a break, of course.
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If 13 is such a bad luck number, then why there's a Touhou 4?
because 4 isn't really all that unlucky ::)
anyway, it occurred to me that touhou 12 is the first windows game where the player goes to makai. perhaps touhou 13 will have a central plot around it?
I remember that I was struck with a brilliant theory earlier, but I forget :derp:
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because 4 isn't really all that unlucky ::)
anyway, it occurred to me that touhou 12 is the first windows game where the player goes to makai. perhaps touhou 13 will have a central plot around it?
I remember that I was struck with a brilliant theory earlier, but I forget :derp:
Errr...no.
Touhou ONE is the first where you goto Makai, and Touhou 5 is pretty much in Makai the whole time (or is it the whole time literally?).
4 is also more unlucky to Asians I believe than 13. I'm a white Canadian so I don't know if this is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, all of the above, etc. But 4 is "death" I believe, or "you will die" or something to that effect. It's why many final bosses or big evils in RPGS have 4444 hp or whatever.
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Errr...no.
Touhou ONE is the first where you goto Makai, and Touhou 5 is pretty much in Makai the whole time (or is it the whole time literally?).
4 is also more unlucky to Asians I believe than 13. I'm a white Canadian so I don't know if this is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, all of the above, etc. But 4 is "death" I believe, or "you will die" or something to that effect. It's why many final bosses or big evils in RPGS have 4444 hp or whatever.
About the '4 is death' thing, it's Chinese and Japanese due to pronunciation, yeah.
Also, he said first Windows game. (Granted, I'm not the most knowledgeable person on the topic, but I don't think you hit up Makai in any'a the others.)
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About the '4 is death' thing, it's Chinese and Japanese due to pronunciation, yeah.
Also, he said first Windows game. (Granted, I'm not the most knowledgeable person on the topic, but I don't think you hit up Makai in any'a the others.)
derp, I didn't see the word windows. YOU JUST PUT IT THERE!!!
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derp, I didn't see the word windows. YOU JUST PUT IT THERE!!!
Damn, I've been found out!
But yeah, would totally kill for another trip to Makai. And not just because of Shinki possibilities, either, nope.
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Well if EoSD/PCB/IN formed their own little "trilogy," then couldn't MoF/SA/UFO make another little trilogy as well, and then with Touhou 13 we'll move onto a different running plot?
...possibly with a new game engine?
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Japanese:
Number 4 Pronounced "yon" or "shi"
You get -> 四 if you type "yon"
If you type "shi" you can the Kanji for death, which is 死
Although meaning are different, it's like linking the word of death with a number. I don't know how this happened, but yeah.
But still, a lot of Kanji is pronounced "shi" so yeah...
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Well if EoSD/PCB/IN formed their own little "trilogy," then couldn't MoF/SA/UFO make another little trilogy as well, and then with Touhou 13 we'll move onto a different running plot?
...possibly with a new game engine?
I don't know if those were OFFICIALLY their own trilogies, but that's a pretty good point. Though the relationship between mof,sa, and UFO isn't as strong as eosd->in IMO.
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Though the relationship between mof,sa, and UFO isn't as strong as eosd->in IMO.
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Kanako is the direct cause of the events in SA, by giving Utsuho nuclear powers. The events in the subterranean are the direct cause of the Holy Palanquin being propelled skywards, starting the UFO storyline. In which way do EoSD/PCB/IN interact?
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Kanako is the direct cause of the events in SA, by giving Utsuho nuclear powers. The events in the subterranean are the direct cause of the Holy Palanquin being propelled skywards, starting the UFO storyline. In which way do EoSD/PCB/IN interact?
I'm referring to the ability to play as the cast from eosd and pcb in IN and get their perspectives on the new cast/story. Admittanly sakuya being in pcb isn't as strong but I think all that potential dialogue thru the game connects the two more than the plot starter being connected without actually getting a nod in-game for UFO.
edit: Sakuya in PCB is pretty much == to Sanae in UFO, but bloody everyone in IN more than makes up more of a connection (IMO) for IN than the plot starter in UFO and SA as well as extra end plot thing in SA
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ZUN said that he wanted to make an IN like game before EoSD, but he had to establish characters for it to work, so he did EoSD and PCB first.
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That makes IaMP and Hisouten(soku) the most important entries in the (games) canon, then. Not that I'd disagree with that particular point of view, on the contrary.
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That makes IaMP and Hisouten(soku) the most important entries in the (games) canon, then. Not that I'd disagree with that particular point of view, on the contrary.
Yeah.. I don't like fighting games, but I'm mustering the desire to play them just for that very reason.
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I would play IaMP, SWR and UNL if I knew the controls.
You see, I'm not very good with fighting gaem
And I tried to look for a tutorial on Youtube, but all I got was this dumbass who put Iku "Get Down" for eight fucking minutes
argh I'm still pissed off despite this happening four months ago.
Does anyone know where I should go to learn controls and stuff? (How do you use skills, etc)
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I would play IaMP, SWR and UNL if I knew the controls.
You see, I'm not very good with fighting gaem
And I tried to look for a tutorial on Youtube, but all I got was this dumbass who put Iku "Get Down" for eight fucking minutes
argh I'm still pissed off despite this happening four months ago.
Does anyone know where I should go to learn controls and stuff? (How do you use skills, etc)
You can change the controls in all those games but the defaults are normally ASDZXC and the arrow keys.
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You can change the controls in all those games but the defaults are normally ASDZXC and the arrow keys.
I know that much, but like I was saying...
How do you get good? Like... combos, skills and stuff?
That is why even when I kick Tenshi in Lunatic, I don't feel satisfied because I don't even know what the hell I am doing. =/
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I know that much, but like I was saying...
How do you get good? Like... combos, skills and stuff?
That is why even when I kick Tenshi in Lunatic, I don't feel satisfied because I don't even know what the hell I am doing. =/
You could read from the wiki I spouse. http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/
But I think a lot of what your seeking might be found in just practicing.
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You could also go to Vs. Mode and just practice combos.
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Yeah.. I don't like fighting games, but I'm mustering the desire to play them just for that very reason.
You don't need to like fighting games, you only need to like lolis spinning at 10000 RPM before crashing head-first into the ground. That's what first got me into Touhou!
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I know that much, but like I was saying...
How do you get good? Like... combos, skills and stuff?
That is why even when I kick Tenshi in Lunatic, I don't feel satisfied because I don't even know what the hell I am doing. =/
for IaMP:
http://iamp.mizuumi.net/index.php/Main_Page
http://zenosip.blogspot.com/
(there's also general/character-specific strategy on youtube, if you're interested.. or you may want to go here (http://shoryuken.com/f2/iamp-immaterial-missing-power-touhou-suimusou-ggpo-style-netplay-189881/), in the first post :p)
for SWR/Soku, though, I think that there's no tutorials/strategy videos so far. (okay, I may've seen some Yuyuko-specific ones, regarding spellcard usage and how to escape from one of them.. but that's about it.)
I guess that match videos and the wiki (mentioned in some posts above) would be recommended for you, in this case. (and maybe the #hisouten irc channel, haven't visited it yet, but maybe they can help you absorb some knowledge from these videos and games, and gradually tell you why the players do what they do, etc..)
About the video you spoke of, earlier, the author (and a lot of other players) apparently was disappointed with SWR as a fighting game (.. kinda how Million Knights Vermillion was hyped before its release, and then turned to be an uninteresting game). Contrary to popular belief, he didn't dislike the game because it "wasn't IaMP", if you look at his first posts on a SWR thread (http://shoryuken.com/f2/touhou-hisouten-~scarlet-weather-rhapsody~-sequel-immaterial-missing-power-131618/) ( and youtube videos featuring SWR ).
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Do you have a joystick controller or a gamepad? I find these MUCH easier to use than arrow keys for any fighting game that needs moves like quarter-circle-forward or half-circle-back, stuff like that. I've always played stuff like Street Fighter and Marvel vs Capcom 2 on the PS2 with a joystick. Doing special moves, comboing, and just overall character control are so much easier than using arrow keys. Not that it's easy on a joystick... it's just that trying to maneuver the character using arrow keys is ridiculously hard for me.
Now for shmups, I NEED a keyboard.
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That's part of the reason why I don't play PC games a lot, you see...
I don't have a controller.
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I remembered what I thought of: I bet Touhou 13 is going to involve one of the other dimensions such as makai, or the dream realm, or something like that. or maybe the border is gonna weaken again...
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just a random thought. The newest Touhou character being revealed at the time of 12.8's release.. if you consider Aya appeared in official manga, before StB's release (so people could gradually accept a new main character in a Touhou game without having an impression of a sudden change of a protagonist), and the fact that Hatate didn't need an official manga to make an appearance as a counterbalance.. tl;dr I honestly don't think the newest character would be an interesting/identifiable character to play as, outside a Phantasmagoria game.. (maybe if she's indeed related to the oni, but I'd rather want to see how Yugi and Suika play like, in a shmup, if I had to choose one -- two -- or the other)
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Then, we've had plenty of characters appearing solely in the official manga; not in the games. The manga isn't the most reliable indication of what new characters are soon to appear in games.
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i got angry at bellreisa
ahahahahaha
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ZUN blows it all out:
makes all formerly unthought of characters playable.
1. Playables: Ichirin and Unzan team, Utsuho and Orin team, Hina and Medicine team.
2. All in game bosses are new.
3. New power system: there is none, you get power only by defeating bosses in a certain way, ie, combo enough chains to gain bonus.
HEAVEN OR HELL
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Hina and Medicine team.
But but... Hina is nice, and Medicine is a bish.
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But but... Hina is nice, and Medicine is a bish.
Read the Hina x Medicine doujins. :V
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ZUN blows it all out:
makes all formerly unthought of characters playable.
1. Playables: Ichirin and Unzan team, Utsuho and Orin team, Hina and Medicine team.
2. All in game bosses are new.
3. New power system: there is none, you get power only by defeating bosses in a certain way, ie, combo enough chains to gain bonus.
HEAVEN OR HELL
1. Playables: Utsuho and Orin team
YEAH!!!! THIS GAME IS THE BEST TOUHOU EVER MADE!!! (After 11, of course ~_^)