Maidens of the Kaleidoscope

~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Hououin Kyouma on February 15, 2010, 07:29:15 AM

Title: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Hououin Kyouma on February 15, 2010, 07:29:15 AM
The new Ace Attorney Investigation is going to be released tomorrow
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Prody on February 15, 2010, 08:36:05 AM
EUREKA!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Solais on February 15, 2010, 10:58:14 AM
The new Ace Attorney Investigation is going to be released tomorrow

!!!

FINALLY!!!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Hououin Kyouma on February 15, 2010, 11:04:29 AM
Note to Donut: Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice IS CANON
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Rikter on February 15, 2010, 02:23:05 PM
Oh so that does come out tomorrow.

Shame I need to save all my money.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 15, 2010, 02:24:40 PM
Had it preordered since time immemorial, but it'll probably be leaked before then.  Guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 15, 2010, 04:58:11 PM
I figure I'd ought to have myself completely caught up before this game is released, even though I'm certain I know everything worth knowing anyway. The only Game I'm not finished with is the second one (and yes, I'm aware of most of what happens in the game anyway.)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 15, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
None of the Phoenix Wright games are necessary to play AAI, but it would be good to finish 1 and 2, at least.

Franziska shows up.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: theshirn on February 15, 2010, 06:51:17 PM
YES

especially because my jerk roommate played it japanese months ago and has been pretending to spoil stuff just to get me mad

but HELL YEAH
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 15, 2010, 06:54:03 PM
 :* :* :*
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 15, 2010, 07:25:38 PM
YES

especially because my jerk roommate played it japanese months ago and has been pretending to spoil stuff just to get me mad

but HELL YEAH

Did I mention you should steal his copy of AT3 and mail it to me?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 15, 2010, 07:28:44 PM
Note to Donut: Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice IS CANON

Canon in an alternate universe where the creators spit upon all the old characters to set up the new protagonist, yes. >:<
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 15, 2010, 07:30:41 PM
Canon in an alternate universe where the creators don't spit upon all the old characters to set up the new protagonist, yes. >:<

Did we even play the same game? 
Phoenix's 7-year piano marathon aside, he did EVERYTHING worth mentioning for Apollo.  He was totally the main character, even though you were playing someone else...
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Chaore on February 15, 2010, 07:31:47 PM
Canon in an alternate universe where the creators spit upon all the old characters to set up the new protagonist, yes. >:<

Don't make me punchya son.

It'd be a waste of good dough.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 15, 2010, 07:33:20 PM
The thing is, they still screwed Phoenix over just to set up Apollo's arc (and if you call that spoilers, it's widely advertised that Phoenix lost his job, so nyeh). Was it really so hard to just not associate Phoenix with the new arc at all so they could go on and live happily ever after? The game was still quite flawed in terms of way too many logic errors, but it would have been better if Phoenix were NOT still the main character.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 15, 2010, 07:36:09 PM
I had plenty of problems with AJ, but how they handled Phoenix was not one of them.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: theshirn on February 15, 2010, 07:40:43 PM
Did I mention you should steal his copy of AT3 and mail it to me?
Yes, but I'm not willing to inflict that kind of suffering on others.  And I don't mean him.

Also, why all the Hobohodo hate?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Thata no Guykoro on February 15, 2010, 07:45:33 PM
I figure I'd ought to have myself completely caught up before this game is released, even though I'm certain I know everything worth knowing anyway. The only Game I'm not finished with is the second one (and yes, I'm aware of most of what happens in the game anyway.)
Same sorta situation for me, except I have yet to play T&T or AJ. >.>
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on February 15, 2010, 08:15:58 PM
Do not ask my opinions on AJ's third case. I could write an entire essay on why the plot was absolutely ridiculous and just plain stupid.

"THE WITNESS IS THE SWAN." JESUS CHRIST man can't you just say "THAT DUDE WITH THE SHARK HAIR TOOK MY GUN AND SHOT ME"

 >:(
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 15, 2010, 08:17:35 PM
Also, why all the Hobohodo hate?

My biggest problem with Hobohodo (lol c-r) was
he somehow managed to get back in the court's good graces to organize a restructuring of the entire legal system.  Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

But yeah, the entire game was kind of dumb.  Enjoyable, but dumb.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 15, 2010, 08:32:42 PM
Do not ask my opinions on AJ's third case. I could write an entire essay on why the plot was absolutely ridiculous and just plain stupid.

"THE WITNESS IS THE SWAN." JESUS CHRIST man can't you just say "THAT DUDE WITH THE SHARK HAIR TOOK MY GUN AND SHOT ME"

 >:(

I've banged my head more over the fact that
they prove that the murder took place in the second act, in which a million people were watching Machi, and nobody picked up on how he might be innocent after this fact

Or also how dumb the second case's first day is.
A whole subplot over panties whose only purpose was to change which direction the victim was looking? Sure it was important, but that is one of the most contrived court days ever.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on February 15, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
The great thing about hearing the Hobohodo raeg is that from what I've heard it wasn't originally even meant to be Phoenix. They just sort of threw him in at the last minute, which is why
you never see signs of anyone like Edgeworth or Maya arguing against his disbarrment.

Anyway, have been waiting for this for well over a year. Awesomeness impending.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 16, 2010, 03:15:11 AM
Canon in an alternate universe where the creators spit upon all the old characters to set up the new protagonist, yes. >:<

They should have added a warning label (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnicketWarningLabel), huh.

I have no real problem with Apollo Justice at all, actually. I sort of liked it. I was also way too caught up in the cases to notice anything wrong with their internal workings (But then again, I'm a big picture kind of guy, so I usually miss that sort of stuff anyway).
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Barrakketh on February 16, 2010, 03:22:10 AM
At first I thought this thread was going to be about the fact that Justice For All was released on WiiWare here in the US.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Rin Kagamine on February 16, 2010, 02:04:52 PM
I was all set to hate AJ immensely solely for not being PW, and I was of the mindset that no one could ever replace Maya as your sidekick.  And then Trucy shows up, and she's almost better than Maya.  I was in shock.

I should replay PW3
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 16, 2010, 02:29:43 PM
Trucy
:*
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 16, 2010, 04:58:12 PM
Trucy is goddamn adorable.

Pearls is still the goddamn adorablest sidekick, though.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Nobu on February 16, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
Still horribly behind, only played the first one. (I have to break my habit of always checking spoiler tags, for this thread. ><)

Ema's still one of my favorite characters ever though.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 16, 2010, 05:03:09 PM
Pearls
:* :* :*

(http://i46.tinypic.com/6ye3ki.gif)
HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: theshirn on February 16, 2010, 06:26:07 PM
These are all lies.  The best sidekick is easily Gumshoe.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 16, 2010, 06:27:37 PM
Gumshoe DOES have the hottest girlfriend.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Rin Kagamine on February 16, 2010, 06:45:04 PM
Ema Skye is easily on of the worst recurring characters, so damn annoying.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 16, 2010, 07:14:16 PM
Ema Skye is easily on of the worst recurring characters, so damn annoying.
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff90/Izekeal/ema4.gif)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 16, 2010, 08:40:12 PM
AAI is, uh... out now.  FYI.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Maid Xan~ on February 16, 2010, 09:06:37 PM
I'd say that I like the idea of AJ. I like Phoenix's portayal, mostly.

One thing they could have done at the end that would have been to overturn Phoenix's disbarment.

Actually, now that I think about it, they could easily have not had Phoenix getting disbarred. Think about it, 3 had you play as other people. They could easily have had Phoenix handle some cases and Apollo handle some others. Apollo would logically get three or four cases, Phoenix could have gotten a few, perhaps with more reappearences by old favorites, it would have worked out fine.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 16, 2010, 09:14:05 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, they could easily have not had Phoenix getting disbarred.

Agreed.  And really?  They effectively didn't have him disbarred, given he's the focal point for an entirely new legal system.  Why would they give so much authority to a disgraced bum?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Spidere on February 16, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
These are all lies.  The best sidekick is easily Gumshoe.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Maid Xan~ on February 16, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
Agreed.  And really?  They effectively didn't have him disbarred, given he's the focal point for an entirely new legal system.  Why would they give so much authority to a disgraced bum?

Well, it could be that the reason that we never see Edgeworth or Gumshoe etc is because they were working on getting Phoenix's disbarment overturned.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on February 16, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
Playing investigations now, just beat case one.

spoilers for case one, obviously
It felt a bit rushed, but it seems like an introduction case more than anything. PORTSMAN SPIN COAT was pretty cool, and his coin eating breakdown wasn't too bad. A pretty 'meh' case overall. I'm expecting better from the later ones.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Krimmydoodle on February 17, 2010, 12:49:52 AM
*makes a mental note to stop lurking this thread to avoid spoilers

baw not having transportation to a store or time to play it.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: theshirn on February 17, 2010, 01:16:07 AM
This had occurred to me before now, but having the portraits more up-close only bears this out further:

Edgeworth is built like a TANK.  The man's freakin' MASSIVE.  For no reason at all.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 17, 2010, 02:33:09 AM
Cammy Meele :D

Sleepy moe~
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: communist unity (comm-unity) on February 17, 2010, 03:00:09 AM
Case 2!
Case 2 was pretty good; the characters in it are solid as well. Return of franziska 'aww yeah'
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 17, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
Cammy Meele :D

Sleepy moe~

Goddammit Capcom
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 17, 2010, 09:04:17 PM
Goddammit Capcom

Sorry to "burst your bubble".
:D
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 17, 2010, 10:04:50 PM
Sorry to "burst your bubble".
:D
ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 18, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
FFFFFF.  Case 4.

Loli Von Karma.  hrnrggggh
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 18, 2010, 10:19:10 PM
Case 4
I wish they'd have given you more chances to speak with Manfred. I'm still interesting in his character design, but they seem content to just leave it as Proto-Franziska without the Whip (And obviously without Father Issues).
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 18, 2010, 10:33:27 PM
Just beat it  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WObfcDIf6lY):smug:
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 19, 2010, 10:00:24 AM
Was planning on sleeping tonight, but then I saw the last post and just had to take the MotK Silver Medal for this game.

That is to say, I'm done, too.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Stuffman on February 20, 2010, 06:58:37 AM
A friend of mine drew this (http://i48.tinypic.com/2zpqu4n.png). You should all enjoy it.

(Personally I haven't gotten around to playing any of the PW games since the first)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 20, 2010, 07:19:22 AM
Finally beat it myself.  Jesus christ, the last chapter never fucking ended.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 20, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
I finally got the game myself. :D I'm so excited I still haven't played it for some reason.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: lumber_of_the_beast on February 21, 2010, 09:37:52 PM
Case 4:
"I'm not gonna cry! I'm not... gonna..." Well, I sure did. ;~;
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 22, 2010, 05:06:33 PM
You know you're a homosexual when you don't realize Cammy has major cleavage until someone else tells you.

I didn't even notice a difference between her outfit and Teneiro's.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 22, 2010, 05:09:24 PM
You know you're a homosexual when you don't realize Cammy has major cleavage until someone else tells you.

I didn't even notice a difference between her outfit and Teneiro's.

Christ how did you not notice thatthose. :(

Also, Cammy's adorable but Calisto Yew is probably the cutest in my book.  A shame her Objection voice is a cross between a 15-year-old boy and a horse.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 23, 2010, 01:42:35 AM
<3 Cammy
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Prody on February 23, 2010, 03:29:59 AM
Cammy = White mouth
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 23, 2010, 10:38:17 AM
Christ how did you not notice thatthose. :(

Also, Cammy's adorable but Calisto Yew is probably the cutest in my book.  A shame her Objection voice is a cross between a 15-year-old boy and a horse.

I don't know. I guess I was just always looking at her face.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: lumber_of_the_beast on February 24, 2010, 12:55:01 AM
Finally beat it myself.  Jesus christ, the last chapter never fucking ended.
I'd have been less annoyed at the length if it weren't for the fantastically retarded But Thou Must right after the best part.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Suikama on February 24, 2010, 01:01:55 AM
I'd have been less annoyed at the length if it weren't for the fantastically retarded But Thou Must right after the best part.
Yeah pretty much
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on February 24, 2010, 02:49:41 AM
AAI, Case 3:

What do you think Phoenix was doing near the theme park, especially since there was the whole crime scene plus Little Thief?

I'm just starting the last case right now.  Seriously, why is it that Cases 4 and 5 just drag on and on?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 24, 2010, 03:05:07 PM
What do you think Phoenix was doing near the theme park, especially since there was the whole crime scene plus Little Thief?

Enjoying a little R&R with his honeys after the events of game 3.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Solais on February 24, 2010, 03:40:50 PM
Starting Case 4.

Also, what's with Phoenix and Case 3? I haven't seen him around.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Edible on February 24, 2010, 03:42:06 PM
Also, what's with Phoenix and Case 3? I haven't seen him around.

He's sitting on a boat above the bridge in the amusement park's main entrance.  You can't interact with him.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: Solais on February 24, 2010, 05:10:49 PM
Yeah, found a picture in the AA wiki, it seems I missed it as I was doing what I should have done, so I didn't wandered around.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 27, 2010, 10:06:12 AM
Starting case 5. I hear I'm in for quite a marathon case.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Series
Post by: nintendonut888 on March 02, 2010, 09:04:53 AM
And I just finished. That was pretty fun, but the villain really was reaching at straws for half the last investigation.