Greetings, CHAORE.
You are TORTOISE MOUNTAIN GENBU, MEIMEI. Your element is only Green.
(http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/750.jpg)
You're a PAD Character, so you're town. You when when all the scum are eliminated, or that Handsome Devil Lucifer returns to town. Along with your federally mandated Vote and Ability to Speak you have FIVE abilities.
GENBU THE WORLD: At any time during the day, you may use #GENBU MOTHERFUCKERS: to target and wipe someone completely off the map. You may do this as many times as you wish until everyone is dead Day 1.
Tortoise Shell Too Strongk: You are completely unkillable or lynchable bar plot convenience.
Bastettttt~ Help me with this, kay?: You may target multiple players, up to the entire game, with any night action or Day Action
Dramatic Block!: During the night, you may take the shot for any player you target. As you're unkillable this is basically a doctor.
Taking a break now~: You may choose to completely leave the game at any point during the game, and come back when you wish. If the game ends while you're gone, you win.
Rules:
1. Days will last 72 hours or until a lynch is met. If no lynch is met in that time span, no lynch will occur.
2. Once LYLO, and ONLY LYLO occurs, there will be no time limit for days. A lynch must be made to end the day.
3. Night phases will last 24 hours, and all actions that occur during the night must be sent in during that time.
4. Do not quote or screenshot your role PM or you will be fired. Out of a cannon.
5. Discussion of the game outside of the game unless permitted is grounds for execution.
6. Deletion or Editing of a post will cause god to smite you with lightning. This is your ONLY WARNING.
7. Dead players may 'BAH' exactly once, and can not discuss the game itself in that post. Any posts other than that single BAH post will be punished.
8. All talk ends during night phases. Once hammer hits, all talk also ends.
9. All votes must be bolded and preceded with ##. Same with unvotes.
10. The moderator may be questioned at any time in thread or via PM.
11. Any variation of 'God damnit Chaore!' may only be said once.
11.5- Rules can be modified at any time depending on clearances needed to be made.
12. Confirmation will start after all role PMs have been sent.
13. PX gets no bah posts ever.
14. Scum may not refuse to submit a kill, should one not be sent, the mafia kill will be randomized OUT OF ALL PLAYERS.
Shadoweh replaces Bardiche effective immediately!
You want me to drop out?
Okay.
GGGGGGGGGGREAT!
##Vote Raitaki
SkyPal you do realize Pesco isn't actually in the game right
Pesco (1): Sky PaladinWow
Well it's just rvs vote, I'll put down something more serious later.Do that.
@CF7: Is your current vote on me random?Not really. As i said, testing reactions.
His first post (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1086290.html#msg1086290) is a randomly placed vote on Bardiche with no real significant meaning to it.Well my only defense of Raitaki was that i pointed out that people semi-seriously voting for him because of his RVS joke vote. Tbh, i kind of wanted to vote for Serela myself just for kicks, but as you can see people here have no sense of humor and Raitaki is scummy because of this.
However CF7's second post (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1086409.html#msg1086409), the one where he votes for me, is much more interesting.
Firstly, he defends Raitaki for no real reason.
I do not understand why he CF7 would do this when he complains in his next post (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1086447.html#msg1086447) about the random voting stage.Bard's vote was his first post vote and i didn't pay much attention to it. Because usually people just write random junk in their first posts. Thinking back on it, his jump on Raitaki is so far null, as most of the votes made in RVS. At least for me this early in the game.
Was Bardiche voting Raitaki not a point of interest which you could have, at the very least, attempted to investigate further if you truly wanted the random voting stage to end?Why then do you try to absolve Raitaki of any guilt while not making any sort of judgement on Bardiche?
The fact that you did neither of these makes me think that your complaint about the random voting stage is insincere.
Couple this with the fact that your complaint was made less than 12 hours into the game and this makes me think that you were simply complaining about the random voting stage in order to make it appear as though you wanted the random voting stage to end when, in reality, you were more than content to let the random voting stage drag on.
This is further supported by the second half of your second post (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1086409.html#msg1086409) wherein you vote for myself.I wrote about Raitaki's situation above, considering you i didn't try to paint you scummy. I said you might be and I voted you and wanted to see what happens. As it turns out you decided to write a case on me. Also what opinions are you talking about, when pretty much nothing happened yet and half the players are not even here?
So, tell me, why is it that you defend Raitaki for voting for confirmed town and simultaneously attempt to paint me as scummy for voting myself. (Confirmed town to me)
You claim that it is to fish for reactions which should, in turn, help to end the random voting stage but that's really just a facade, isn't it?
With no strong opinions of your own, you just want to look like you're contributing whilst not actually committing yourself to anything.
All I asked of you was to decide on whether or not me voting for myself was scummy and yet he comes up with the excuse that there are not enough player interactions to determine this.So far self-voting is more or less null. And i wanted to see more of your posts nothing more nothing less. Maybe i worded it wrong.
What possible player interactions could he require when the only possible person involved in the action that you might or might not find scummy is me?
Also, Sky_Pal, trying to act the victim to cast doubt on my claim?Still waiting on this by the way. Were you trying to say that I shouldn't believe in my Miller role PM?
Thinking back on it, his jump on Raitaki is so far null, as most of the votes made in RVS. At least for me this early in the game.
So far self-voting is more or less null. And i wanted to see more of your posts nothing more nothing less. Maybe i worded it wrong.
Well, you might be. Because self-voting is sort of a good way of not showing your bias toward other players if you are scum.So what degree of scumminess is Dormio on the scum-o-meter right now? You said it was null twice, but earlier you called it possibly scummy in a way that applies to RVS, and you even said you wanted to see more of his posts. If what he's doing null, why do you want to read him more over others?
Well, considering Dormio, i'm leaning on slightly scummy at the moment. Because his case seemed like cherry-picking to me.
I wanted more posts from Dormio because of whole self-voting thing. And no-one else self-voted. It's just not a townie action. That's why i wanted to see more interactions from him, so i could confirm or disprove my suspicions.
Dormio being really tryhard is a scumtell no jokeYou trying to pick a fight here?
Idle thoughts:
-If roles really were cherrypicked, CF7 dun goofed and didn't make me a Miller.
CF7 is scum trying to look like he's creating a valid case and therefore encouraging the end of the random voting stage.
Dormio is scum trying to look like he's creating a valid case and therefore encouraging the end of the random voting stage.
You claim that it is to fish for reactions which should, in turn, help to end the random voting stage but that's really just a facade, isn't it?If you cut out everything after the word "reactions", you are left with what factually happened. After that is conjecture and assumption. The part about "strong opinions" is bullocks at this stage in the game where there are very few opinions to be formed and smells too much of random nonsense slapped in to make his case seem more legit. Demanding a certain "you're scum" or "it's likely you're scum based on the self-vote" is absurd given not even 12 hours into the game and RVS stage. I have a feeling that if the answer had been, "Yes", Dormio would still have been making this case.
Instead, he was simply bringing to light the fact that [...] the random voting stage didn't seem to show any sign of stopping.We have on record CF7 saying that "RVS is weird, more weird than normally". How does that equate to "RVS shows no sign of ending"?
I don't know how it works in your country, buddy, but when somebody states reasons for why my actions could potentially be scummy, I think that's a pretty clear indication that that person is trying to get some attention on me.I also dislike this line of reasoning. Dormio's case has a lot of nitpicking: attacking very specific parts of a post and overblowing them with assumption and supposition. But when CF7 states he wasn't trying to "paint" someone as scummy, Dormio insists that it is so. "Painting" someone as scummy implies the person isn't scummy to begin with, and this thus falls down to OMGUS.
All I asked of you was to decide on whether or not me voting for myself was scummy and yet he comes up with the excuse that there are not enough player interactions to determine this.not that i really care or anything but cf7 reply about the player interactions doesnt limit itself to "reactions to dormios selfvote"
What possible player interactions could he require when the only possible person involved in the action that you might or might not find scummy is me?
I actually ended it though as opposed to CF7's "maybe, maybe not, I don't feel like committing" attempt.are you implying his half baked attempt at ending rvs is scummy? i would think making any attempt at ending rvs is town rather. also wasnt your post just a reaction to his vote? so in a way he did end rvsby seeing what kind of reaction you would make
I think Sky's vote right there is scummy though, Raitaki doesn't seem to be overreacting to prods on his miller claim at all to me.how so considering he would vote sky paladin over it and wanted what ever kind of response raitaki wanted from him?
also im going to ask did anyone elses role pm mention lucifer?a simple yes or no nothing else please
I am scum does backpedalling on my enjoying walls
I am scum
Dan, do you think Shadowehs misrep of me in her intro post is more or less scummy than Cf7 or Dormio?What is this post even? Just straight up accuses Shadoweh of misrepping you without any explanation, and then why did you specifically asking Dan for his opinion about it? Feels like "hey if you have nothing to do vote this person who's voting me" to me.
It's not like he's actually going to get quickhammered or something.
Also, going to bed
Dan, do you think Shadowehs misrep of me in her intro post is more or less scummy than Cf7 or Dormio?
Why the sudden appeal to Dan? Dan already stated that he thought that what Shadoweh pointed out as a null read, and thus didn't really see what Shadoweh pointed out as a misrep.Seeing as you consider him a suspect, I assume that means you think this is scummy. But can you explain to me why Sky expecting Dan to know what irked Sky about my points is scummy? That's just a really weird thing to push.
Which he still had not at that time, or now, for that matter, explained to the rest of us. Almost as if he expected Dan [And everyone else for that matter] to know exactly what was irking him about Shadoweh's points.
For example he claims that he was not defending Raitaki, nor was he complaining about the random voting stage.Actually, i honestly do believe that pile of votes on Raitaki is unjustified.
Instead, he was simply bringing to light the fact that Raitaki was being voted and that the random voting stage didn't seem to show any sign of stopping.
Yeah, right. What a load of bullshit.
The wording "people semi-seriously voting for him because of his RVS joke vote" is defensive in and of itself as it states that you believe that the votes for Raitaki are unjustified.
And then there was absolutely no point in bringing attention to the random voting stage when less than 12 hours had passed by that point.It wasn't a complaint. Not every post must be serious. You know, sometimes a banana is just a banana.
With an unreasonable complaint like that, as I said before, it looks to me like you're only trying to make it look as though you want the random voting stage to end whilst not actually caring either way.
And then we haveThis whole thing. Here how it went in my head.
Why did you give the bullshit excuse of needing more player interactions when the only interactions that you needed were me interacting with myself?
And also, why do you feel the need to try to discredit me by calling my case trivial?I wasn't trying to make a case on you. As i wrote above, i wanted a reaction out of you and reaction i got. It's a bit defensive, but doesn't really paint you as a scum.
Like, actually, the last sentence where CF7 states "P.S. I am genuinely amazed at how people here can make cases on me over trivial things." is pretty scummy by itself.
You made your response, so what need is there for the further attempt at discrediting me?
Why employ an underhanded appeal to emotion?
Is it because you're scum, and know that I'm town as a result, and can't find a way to make a proper case on me without resorting to something like that?
I'm not 'talking about colors', I'm explicitly asking a question for role-related reasons.Ask a stupid question, get an obvious answer.
Zakeri what do you mean outwording CF7? Is it scummy to bring semantics into scumhunting or something?
Actually, i honestly do believe that pile of votes on Raitaki is unjustified.
Zak. RVS vote, then he justifies keeping his RVS vote on Raitaki, because of Raitaki's jump on me.
Serela. Well what can i say here... Again RVS vote. And he's just keeping his vote on Raitaki because he simply can, by being confirmed town. Oh, well.
Sky. Simply votes him for his Serela vote and being "oversensitive" about his miller claim.
And finally Rawr. Pretty much same justification as Sky.
Are those votes justified from your point of view? Because i can't just justify any of them. Claiming miller is not a fun thing to do. I dunno about others, i would be oversensitive too about my miller claim in any case (i.e. if i am actually a miller claiming miller, or scum gambitting on claiming miller). But i'm leaning on believing the miller claim, because it's a role madness game and as a result miller is quite possible in the setup.It wasn't a complaint. Not every post must be serious. You know, sometimes a banana is just a banana. This whole thing. Here how it went in my head.
I mean I got told off by. Y wife earlier.
I was in the grocery store buying spoons and I noticed the shop lady had this really sweet hat. And the other counter was empty except for the clerk and he also had this sweet hat. And I commented it to my wife and she said yeah they have the same hat. BUT THEY WERE DIFFERENT. So I asked the store lady (in Japanese) if her hat was the same as the other guys hat and she jus ignored me. Wow it was so rude. The. Afterwards my wife hit me with the grocery bag and was all "why did you ask that? It was so rude!" man I just wanted to buy one of those hats. They were steamboat willy kind of awesome. I thought I would be like Zun with that hat. Walking through Shinjuku in an awesome hat and a Hawaii shirt, drunk as a skunk and still chugging Kirin. I mean isn't that the dream? I could run into him and be like ZUN BARD STOLE MY SUB WHAT DO I DO and then bam touhou sixteen bard is the fourth stage boss using submarine type spell cards yet still looking like Josef Stalin in a fetching red dress and heels. Because Touhou.
Instead I get a bruise in the arm from a tin of fucking peach yoghurt and an angry wife, no hat, and two bullshit votes. Man. Zun better be at Disneyland or this whole trip was wasted.
As for Shadoweh's colors, I'm half expecting a Captain-Planet-style role... <_<What is wrong with you people? The only thing I want to know is if Bardiche is Tall, Dark and Handsome. Don't tell me about your other shitty colors.
What is wrong with you people? The only thing I want to know is if Bardiche is Tall, Dark and Handsome. Don't tell me about your other shitty colors.
I'm not reading that drunkposting until I get home. I'm p sure it will make me laugh though!
So I kinda want to shoot one of nnr, raitaki, or raikaria. O hey did I mention that I am a compulsive day 1 dayvig? Well now you know.
I don't want to claim in full to reduce the information available to the scum, but likewise I see no harm in giving some information about my role so I will say this: I have no abilities which I can activate or control at this current point, and I am town.
Also out of those three you have listed, I would personally shoot Raitaki right now. NNR is he's still useless towards the end of the deadline.Wait what? What made you go from "I'm not seeing the case on Raitaki" to "you should shoot Raitaki"?
Anyway, right now my vote is between Dormio [Blame Bard] and Sky. They're both on 2 and I don't really know which is worse, because Sky's my gut telling me something's wrong plus my trademark *~conspiracy~* theory, and Dormio's basically *what Bardiche said*.
I think I know which people are more likly to take seriously.
You just said "I think nobody has contributed anything of merit except Dormio but he is scum." but no vote.where he's twisting around what Shadoweh says to make it seem darker than it really is. Dormio's post being best post does not exclude the other posts from having contributed anything of merit, and this is a malicious sort of misrepresentation where Shadoweh's words are used to paint a darker light (take that shadoweh) of her.
The only "lol" in this game is Schezo using art from a reknown yaoi artist in his profile.Shhhhhhhh
Shhhhhhhh
Woah~ Lewd, Lewd~
Also votes reset confirmedAlright, then I definitely don't want to use my ability before yours goes off.
And Dormio's suddenly relying on rolespec after that entire rage-debate in his post-game about how he hates that kind of behaviour, where gaming the setup beats actually scumhunting. If he hates it so much I doubt he'd want to rely on that instead of legitimately trying to defend himself, and his various promises of more content don't exactly impress me much. Would still want to see lynched.I'm not playing mafia here.
Wait what? What made you go from "I'm not seeing the case on Raitaki" to "you should shoot Raitaki"?
I don't think my Dormio vote is warranted anymore either, specially with his claim. So Sky it is.just to clarify this for me but youre unvoting dormio because you think his role could be more town aligned and not really scummy?
I am also curious why Sky is not on Dan's shooting list. Especially with Sky somewhat appealing specifically to Dan to back him up here. I wouldn't throw out the possibility of a Dan/Sky scumteam here, except I don't think from Dan's posts that he's too scummy. Sky is leaning scum on my account.i also have to ask even though sky tried to buddy up with dan before the claim what kind of brownie points could he have gotten from him? specifically why would someone try to buddy up with dan?
just to clarify this for me but youre unvoting dormio because you think his role could be more town aligned and not really scummy?
Claiming miller is not a fun thing to do. I dunno about others, i would be oversensitive too about my miller claim in any case (i.e. if i am actually a miller claiming miller, or scum gambitting on claiming miller)claiming miller isnt hard you just say it and play the game. raitakis reaction is weird because anyone has a right to doubt the miller claim, why not prove town by playing the game and cathcing scum? instead his reaction is to vote skypaladin because he doubted the claim.
Ergo you just passive aggressive hey let's suppress somebody's argument by discrediting them.Um, Shadoweh's line about merging the Rais could even be so far as to be called a silly joke, I don't know how you're taking it in this kind of manner. :C
What is wrong with you people? The only thing I want to know is if Bardiche is Tall, Dark and Handsome. Don't tell me about your other shitty colors.
Also the Sky_Pal vote was to pressure him to see how responds to my question at him,
I freeze all votes and the deadline timer.Serela. :V
I can move anyone and everyone's votes however I please.
Well. I Don't feel guilty. And that's what mattersthats the spirit :D
Calling: Schezo votecount
Sky Paladin (4): Dr Rawr, Shadoweh, Raitaki, CF7
Raitaki (1): ActionDan
Dormio (1): Bardiche
Not Voting: Everyone else!
1 and a half Hours.
Lynching requires seven people.
Anyway I have been trying hard. I literally have tiny scraPs of time and a second gen iPhone. Yet still post and write more than most of you! So if you do lunch me for apparently no reason at all, why would you do that?Anyway.
Shouldnt you go for somebody who does nothing or is acually scummy?
I think Anybody who voted me after Caf7 is scummy but I can't remember who they were.Why? Absolutely zero reason given for calling all of them scum, avoiding having to talk about them by claiming not to remember who they are (the votecount was literally 2 posts up, easily visible while typing up a reply), and excluded CF7 for some reason even though you called CF7's #116 awful. I don't think I've ever seen a group OMGUS like this before. Aside from that there's not much besides his Shadoweh case and his push on me to talk about. The AtE is really piling up though.
also i cant really imagine scum having a role where they can stop the day and control all the votes. what if dormio were scum and was about to be lynched for it but he decides NOPE and moves all the votes on to some other townie and ends the day. we pretty much wasted all of day one and then have to blow through day2 and lynch dormio, 2 nights and 2days gone.Actually, I can do it pretty much every day so yeah.
And some people [Me] find your appeals specifically towards ActionDan suspiciousi think i asked this before, but what would sky have gained from buddying up to actiondan before the vig claim. unless youre implying they are scum buddies and he knew about the day vig?
Also about cf7:Um... I'm not sure what OC means.
I also knew NNR was super active in Megatokyo mafia and strangely quiet here. I didn't comment on it because I thought it would count as OC.
SHIVA BREAK: You may punch someone in the face hard enough to determine if they're town. Don't question me. You're a cop. Once per night.
Personally I'd wager that one of Zakeri and Bardiche are scum because both are still alive and *~meta~*, but let's actually try and look for scum that is not a 50/50, shall we?This greatly amuses me.
I know it's weak reasoning. It's also semi tongue-in-cheek. Can people stop focusing on the not-100% serious stuff at the start of the post and comment on my theory about Shadoweh being smart?I'm pretty sure it's wrong at the source. Shadoweh is kind of an idiot.
We can resolve a 50/50 later. Also there's the chance I'm completely wrong but Bard and Zakeri do usually get targeted fairly early.
Also gotta re-read CF7 because CF7 has been really 'meh' for me most of the game.
After the V/LA he does a post with a read on everyone... OH WAIT YEAH THAT'S LIKELY WHY THEY KILLED RAWR. I forgot he was soft-confirmed town due to the Lucifer thing ahaha.Hm... Not sure what me giving a list of reads has to do with scum killing Rawr. Oh, you mean that, scum thought, that it was a deliberate soft-self-clear on Rawr part? Well i can understand that... Still weird reason to do that.
And then votes Sky_P because "I guess that's what we're all doing!", although he wanted to vote the other lurker PX. (which tbh is justified due to avoiding NL but it's still an excuse) Didn't exist during timestop.
The "I guess it's justified" was about voting Sky-P, and I didn't meant to imply he was bad for not pushing a PX lynch when he wanted it, I was meaning to imply the only people he talked about wanting to vote himself were people who hadn't really done anything yet. (which is different in d1)Well i still want to lynch PX, because that level of being barely present in the game is suspicious. Scum could lurk to avoid unnecessary attention and most of the time it's effective, because people usually ignore lurker, unless someone brings attention to them.
Also I like how Shadoweh has completely avoided answering the question of 'why are you actually voting for me?'. Which is not made very clear in the post where she votes me.Well. It is somewhat possible. Still i don't believe it enough to switch my vote to her.
You know, other than reaction baiting and hoping I dig a hole for myself like she may have done to Sky.
##vote Raitaki
we had two kills yesterday, why?
Karia, do you have anything besides the nk thingy to help explain the 50/50 between me and bard? I don't understand it.
Shadoweh case is cute and looks sound but I'm not sure its what actually happened.
Even if she claims not to be a planner it could have just been a thing that happened and she laughed it off.
I will be back home saturday night so I will not be able to do full reads until sunday.
Meh. Raitaki being a pain and crumbing Miller cop or something but not stating it explicitly. Same with raikaria. I dislike it but shurg. I still don't like nnrs only post so
## throw bubblie at: nnr
Scumdoweh votes weak people for being easy and weak, and because being on popular wagons is cool. On the other hand Town Shadoweh is charismatic and sexy and all the boys want to get on that wagon with her. To be fair I could have voted Dan as scum, but I don't think as scum I would have stopped. I stopped to read his post and have determined Sky P. hates my posting style still.
I click your highlighted link CF7 and it takes me no an edit post screen somehow for that post.Not sure how i messed up that link, but I meant your #284 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1088135.html#msg1088135).
Because an actual cop flipped, and a miller cop seems... pretty stupid to be honest, since that would mean two cops. Where did you get the impression Raitaki was crumbing Miller Cop of all things?He thought Raitaki was a cop before a cop flipped. Are you trying to paint Dan as scummy for trying to get Raitaki nightkilled? He's also voting Raitaki now so.. I'm just going to guess he doesn't think he's a miller cop anymore.
Which is exactly what my case is accusing her of doing.
She literally admits it.
To explain better, justifying your vote on me as 'your case is bullshit' when you voted me before I made my case strengthens my case, because it suggests that like Sky_Paladin, you were seeking a reaction out of me that would justify your vote.
So now we have you clearly pushing Sky's buttons, you basically admitting that as scum you pick on the easy targets and do exactly what you are doing this game, and now you avoiding my question for justification of your vote on me, while also attempting to 'justify' the vote by using a case I made after you voted me, so cannot possibly be why you voted me.
I'm black as my soul feels every time you decided twitterposting is better then making a good post like that. If you think the case on CF7 is bad, what are you voting him for? An actual question looking for you to sell me on it b/c I'd rather vote Paladin for badreasoning.org
##Unvote
##Vote: Sky Paladin
I'm not 'talking about colors', I'm explicitly asking a question for role-related reasons. Which Bardiche didn't answer. I assume this means he's still mad at me for turning on him at the last minute. I might make it up to him if he has a black black heart too.
Sky's defense boils down to oh my god, Shadoweh sucks. I look forward to him having enough time to make a terrible case against me and vote him so I can throw him off a cliff.
How to sneakily ask Chaore if Dragon Poker is his new favorite game now..
I would prefer if the entire game did not claim on Day 1 as well.
I'm outright ignoring a bunch of comments about my posts being shit because if I think about them too long I'll probably get very angry at you all! 8D
To be fair we probably shouldn't shoot Sky while he's at Disneyland. I get the feeling that would stop him from posting.
I don't vote people for voting my buddies though. Scumdoweh votes weak people for being easy and weak, and because being on popular wagons is cool. On the other hand Town Shadoweh is charismatic and sexy and all the boys want to get on that wagon with her. To be fair I could have voted Dan as scum, but I don't think as scum I would have stopped. I stopped to read his post and have determined Sky P. hates my posting style still.
Nooooooooo my cake!
(I was roleblocked last night. >_>)
I also woke up literally now. Considering it was way too early for cop to be outted, either Bardiche is scum again or there's scum in the Rai's. I'm guessing Raitaki is not Miller Cop, and no one felt the need to stop him or Raikaria so.... This isn't as role-heavy as I originally thought so a miller having another role might actually be weird. Rawr was more into Raikariaa though so until i8m awake enough to actually read
##Vote: Raikaria
Not that it matters.. since Dormio could just do all the votes for us again today..
Your case is accusing me of being the root of all evil, like DA BIBOL. Right now I'm voting you because your case is bullshit. I don't regret throwing Sky P off a cliff for the same reason tbh. :>
Yes, but what was your original reason Shadoweh? Stop avoiding the question. The fact that you think my case is 'bullshit' does not explain why you voted me in the first place.My original reason was because Rawr thought you were scum. I think I said that? Your reaction being OH MY GOD YOU SUCK just helped cement it. You're not really an easy wagon right now, you know, it's strange, it's really strange! How on earth are you avoiding any other votes but mine after yesterday? By the way, a wise rabbit once told me, "Shadoweh, stop making excuses for people voting you. If someone is voting you, who you know are town, it means they're scum, lynch their asses." So I'm just going to keep lynching people who throw themselves at my woodchipper. If you're not scum then you should get the hell off. Did you roleblock me last night, Rai-rai?
In fact using that as your justification for voting me only makes my case stronger.
My original reason was because Rawr thought you were scum.Firstly, what? This is even a reason? Just to clarify, is this meant to be "I agree with what Rawr said about Raikaria?"
Firstly, what? This is even a reason? Just to clarify, is this meant to be "I agree with what Rawr said about Raikaria?"Nevermind I said this, rawr didn't even say anything about Raikaria that can be agreed with =_=
By the way, sitting back and letting someone else do all the scumhunting work while you drink lemonade because they can decide lynch is scummy in my bookI'm pretty sure she wasn't saying this as a serious thing, Shadoweh jokes around a lot
I don't feel a need to move it because I'm not sure who to move it to plus I don't think his defenses are a paragon of towness, just that they don't incriminate him.Instead there's shit like this which I think is super scummy.
If you're not scum then you should get the hell off. Did you roleblock me last night, Rai-rai?
Still not liking your post there, Raikaria.
Raikaria what do you think of Shadoweh's "I did it for rawr" reasoning?
Firstly, what? This is even a reason? Just to clarify, is this meant to be "I agree with what Rawr said about Raikaria?"I agree with the concept that Rawr had a townread on you, was questioning Raikaria and was generally obvytown so the most likely person to kill him is scum!Bard or Raikaria, yes.
Secondly, where did Rawr even display any sort of suspicion towards Raikaria? Literally the only times rawr mentioned/talked to Raikaria were "you think Dormio's role is town?" and "why do you think Sky Pal is trying to buddy up to Dan?"You are kind of misrepping That Post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1087081.html#msg1087081) because he is clearly questioning Raikaria in a way that implies suspicion. In fact he followed that up (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1087530.html#msg1087530) by continuing to try to get Raikaria to answer him. The answers will never come. :<
By the way, sitting back and letting someone else do all the scumhunting work while you drink lemonade because they can decide lynch is scummy in my book (especially if said person isn't even scumhunting). What if everyone else follows suit and nobody posts anything?Come to think of it, that does explain why Dormio is trying harder to scumhunt. I don't believe I said I was going to leave the game to Dormoe, but you have to admit it's demotivational to realize Squidworth could still be in this slot and my vote could be just as useful.
Why would Sky's flip stop Dan from being scummy? The only reason you considered him scummy in the first place is because Sky was buddying him and you thought Sky was scummy? That's bullshit.
Pretty much. I was saying 'I think Sky is scummy and Sky seems to be appealing to Dan. But I don't think Dan is scummy. Still, it's possible they could be buddies I guess.'Okay, but why. Like in a grandiose 'we could all be buddies together' way? Because if Sky was scum he would not be appealing to his buddy in the first place, so it was actually really unlikely they were scum together? BTW Why is Dan Semi-Confirmed Town to you, because he dayvigged a townie?
Okay, but why. Like in a grandiose 'we could all be buddies together' way? Because if Sky was scum he would not be appealing to his buddy in the first place, so it was actually really unlikely they were scum together? BTW Why is Dan Semi-Confirmed Town to you, because he dayvigged a townie?
Serela, it's your own role that suggests Dan might be scum. You are specifically unable to be shot by Dan's vig.
Why? Because I'm me and *~crazy conspiracy theory~*. It's in my objective list Shadoweh. And when someone you think is scum is saying 'HELP ME ACTIONDAN' it makes you doubt the person being pleaded to.No, why would it? Scum don't plea to their partners for reads in thread. In what world would Sky Paladin's first action be as scum to ask scum-Dan for reads, which makes people like you apparently think they're buddies? Scum want to convince _______ they're town, so they buddy up to people of the _____ alignment. <-- Fill in the blanks.
I don't think that 'compulsive Day 1 one-shot vigilante' is a scum role. And he shot someone who was being useless. I say semi-confirmed because he is not as confirmed as Dormio, and certainly not as confirmed as Serela, but I am fairly confident due to rolespec.
What's your excuse for crumbing, Raikariaria?
I know it's weak reasoning. It's also semi tongue-in-cheek. Can people stop focusing on the not-100% serious stuff at the start of the post and comment on my theory about Shadoweh being smart?
tl;dr
Day 2 doesn't really give me much. Just that Raikaria's gone crazy, although I'm reading it more as scum desperation than town paranoia, which entitles me to think Shadoweh is scumdespite her starting reasons to vote Raikaria.
um raikaria outed what they did because Dan was like "so I'm shooting one of you, claim or RIP""I'm a town pr plz don't shoot me qq" Dan hadn't decided on who he was shooting actually, Raikaria just decided he was 'just curious' why he was a target beffore blabbing alot more then he had to. Dan was focused on NNR.
So basically, whoever is voting you is scum :V
"I'm a town pr plz don't shoot me qq" Dan hadn't decided on who he was shooting actually, Raikaria just decided he was 'just curious' why he was a target beffore blabbing alot more then he had to. Dan was focused on NNR.
Also: "Well you're active, but you're probably still scum, so I'm going to move back to Shadoweh while still calling both of you scum lololol"
You're scum for defending Shadoweh.You have seen the games when PX and I are scum together, right?
You have seen the games when PX and I are scum together, right?
Like the one where he claimed a guilty on me for no reason?
Well, you know what? At least you're active now.
I don't really see anyone else worth voting, so I'm gonna move back to Shadoweh now my reason for a temporary votepark/prodvote on you has passed, and I've re-ready Zakeri and Bard and... well... Zakeri's kinda null and Bard is not getting lynched.
Which basically only leaves Shadoweh I think as scum. Well, and you for defending Shadoweh and not being confirmed town like Serela, but my thinking you as scum is conditional on Shadoweh being scum, so I'd rather vote Shadoweh.
#Unvote
#Vote: Shadoweh
Falling apart
Raikaria (2): Shadoweh, PX
Raitaki (2): Action Dan, Zakeri
CF7 (1): Serela
Shadoweh (1): Raitaki
PX (3): Bardiche, CF7, Raikaria
Not Voting: Dormio
With 10 left alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
~37 Hours left.
9. All votes must be bolded and preceded with ##. Same with unvotes.
You're scum for defending Shadoweh.Please don't say things like this when you don't have a Shadoweh scumflip, because that's not how chainsaw defense being scummy works.
I'm sure some of that attributes to the fact that Dormio can just play king maker by himself so why botherBecause if people don't play at least vaguely as hard as they normally would then the scum can just coast on by and it'll be a crapshoot to find them?
Well, I guess it's about time we start deciding on a lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: CF7
Now with proper mod colorty
You can, oh I don't know, claim EARLY so that we don't have this stupid panic that happens with less than an hour left and can discuss it before hand?
Also, work tomorrow won't be at deadline
And CF7 buying Raikaria's case after seeing the highlight on Shadoweh's joke post kind of itches me. Don't see how a townie would look at the part which targets either a joke or potential WIFOM and say "hey this case is legit".And here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1088197.html#msg1088197) or rather here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1088235.html#msg1088235) since i messed up tags i explained why Raikaria's case is plausible. Read that bolded part where he quotes that scum!Shadoweh will vote for easy targets and that's what she pretty much did this game with Sky_P.
...Rereading further, here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1088104.html#msg1088104) he said Raikaria's case was weird, that he didn't buy it and looked scummy, but theen turned around and started believing in it when he saw the quoted joke post as above? Bullshit. And there wasn't much else going on between "Case is weird" and "Case looks good" to really change his mind either.
##Vote CF7
Raitaki: I outright claimed to want to know if certain people were DARK for role-purposes. You really read my posts and didn't see that? :V I don't know who else would be scum right now, I still think Dan might be, but there isn't enough information to make huge leaps of intuition.Hm... So far we have 2 VT flips. One is Dark i.e. NNR and one is Light - Sky_P. So either i am missing something, but looks like elements have little to no meaning here.
You should aim to please me. ;)Oh, Your Highness, what this lowly worm can do to make itself useful? :V
Yeah you'd like me to claim in full while I'm at L-3, being scum and wanting more information to use, wouldn't you?This is actually quite a valid point. So i might leave my vote where it is.
CF7: Uh, if the post where I claimed the flavor for the miller part of my role was what you found iffy, and if you can't google anything about it, why do you think my miller claim is legit? :V Also, you realize that the "something something" part was "hey look I'm paraphrasing the mod to not eat lightning bolts", right?I'm really starting to think that miller claim is not legit, tbh. Yes, i am aware of paraphrasing, but i'm not sure why the game you're refering to does not exist?
The reason I started switching 18 hours before deadline is because I noticed quite a few people expressed interest in lynching CF7 even though they're not currently voting him so hopefullyAnd then there's this. Subtle pushing for my lynch with bad reasoning. I see people not voting this person, but let's lynch him. Best reasoning ever.
I meant "hey those people want to lynch CF7 so I'm gonna keep my vote there and try to get a wagon going".Sorry, but it still does not look better to me. Not one bit.
Damn, I got spared somehow, and Dormio's still not here. Once everyone who can show up we might still not have enough votes :SBasically, I targeted Dormio N1.
Could really end up with a NL, here.
I blame Dormio.Blame not the sword, but the hammer that shaped it
I don't want to claim in full to reduce the information available to the scum, but likewise I see no harm in giving some information about my role so I will say this: I have no abilities which I can activate or control at this current point, and I am town.
Also not a 'Nilla. I do *have* an ability or effect.
Personally I'd wager that one of Zakeri and Bardiche are scum because both are still alive and *~meta~*, but let's actually try and look for scum that is not a 50/50, shall we?
No. I already said that I have no active actions during Day 1. How could I roleblock you if this is the case? My only ability during Day 1 and Night 1 was passive. I had no night action.
Well how many passive roles with no night actions can you think of Shadoweh? I'm not a Miller either, else I'd have counter-claimed Raitaki. I'm not hated, the votecounts prove that. That dosen't leave a very large pool.
Sorry but I do not feel like divulging about my role. I would rather the scum do not have more information than they already have.
Sorta crumbed hereWow I don't like that crumb. Whatever.
CHANGE THE WORLD: Once per day you may freeze time for 24 hours, you may do this so long as you can also use your other ability. You may do this in Lylo. During this time, no one else can vote and the deadline is stopped.
MOVE THE WORLD: During timestop, you may over other player's votes up to SIX TIMES the entire game. If you move less than six times during one day, you can use this and Change the World the next day, however you may only move how many moves are remaining. This continues until you are out of moves. You can neither stop time or move votes at that point. The command for this is # (Player who's vote your moving), VOTE: (Target).
As an example, to make me vote Schezo it would be #CHAORE, VOTE: SCHEZO.
Serela, have I mentioned you taking charge authoritatively is very scary?You'd probably be even more afraid than Dorian was if you tried to hydra with me sometime like he did!
I'm Batman. Literally batman. BAO Batman+Remote Claw Dark/Dark. Also I do nothing. And I love the fact that NOBODY has actually fully claimed shit yet. Someone please claimI am fullclaimed! You'll have to wait for my neighbour to confirm it! My character is some dark magician girl with a fork surrounded by candy.
@Shadoweh: Yep, I was. Door portals OP.That's an oddly specific thing to say. Shadoweh said that she was roleblocked and that's all. It looks like that Raitaki knows the typo of block specifically. And i'd say this information is only accessible by scum.
Yeah this'd prolly backfire later but right now all I believe in is the Serelagod, sorryThis is what i'd call scum behavior. Here Raitaki does not expresses opinion and hopes for Serela to vote someone. So scum actually can hammer afterwards.
Also what's your element?Wood. And i said so in my claim post just a bit before.
> Let's not be hasty guysAhem. What am i supposed to do? Something like this?
> Hey I saw Raitaki killing Dormio but, y'know, no rush
SERELA WE'RE WRITING CUDDLY FANFICTION AREN'T YOU JEALOUSIt's okay I'll get to see it postgame. :3
CF7's reasonings that Raitaki are scum are based on "hey he mentioned something flavory it must be scumslip" and misrepping him and also not understanding the gamestate because I'm already voting? Right when I woke up btw I realized "wait, if it's mylo, why are we all voting people immediately?", but whatever cf7 is scum.Um... Did you somehow miss that i am a Watcher, i watched Dormio, Raitaki was the only guest during the night? Connect the dots.
CF7, why did you target Dormio?Because i thought that he would be targeted. It's based on the fact that his role is the most dangerous to scum. Shadoweh said she was roleblocked during the N1, so there is a roleblocker in a setup. Roleblocker can easily neutralize claimed doc. Turns out there's no doc.
Anyway, CF7, sorry if it looked like I was ignoring that part :V But yeah, you claimed a guilty on Raitaki, the thing is there's still a very good chance we're going to lynch YOU and not RAITAKI, so it's still kind of in your best interest to prove to us that Raitaki is the scum and not you for reasons other than "I got a private message telling me so! Please believe me." (I have to admit that it'd be hard to convince me otherwise and if you're town I'm sorry :C)Okay. It was all said before, but i can type it again.
On second thought, I refuse to full claim. I uphold the miller claim, and here's the flavor:I said that i could not find anything relevant via google to make this believable. When questioned further his reply was.
I'm Snow White, not from PAD (something something Dragon Poker something) and treated as Green/Light (yuck). I return guilty results cuz everyone hates me for beingdifferentawesome.
CF7: Uh, if the post where I claimed the flavor for the miller part of my role was what you found iffy, and if you can't google anything about it, why do you think my miller claim is legit? :V Also, you realize that the "something something" part was "hey look I'm paraphrasing the mod to not eat lightning bolts", right?"I am paraphrasing. I do not want to be modkilled."
And CF7 buying Raikaria's case after seeing the highlight on Shadoweh's joke post kind of itches me. Don't see how a townie would look at the part which targets either a joke or potential WIFOM and say "hey this case is legit".That's quite a bit of misrepping.
...Rereading further, here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16682.msg1088104.html#msg1088104) he said Raikaria's case was weird, that he didn't buy it and looked scummy, but theen turned around and started believing in it when he saw the quoted joke post as above? Bullshit. And there wasn't much else going on between "Case is weird" and "Case looks good" to really change his mind either.
Okay nevermind you never did finalize her at scum, but "almost convinced switching my vote" comes pretty close.
80% of the time, having a doctor becomes completely nullified by when the doctor claims his role.
Exactly why I didn't claim D1, especially after I got told I couldn't doc myself ;_;
uhh ok.
why would you even claim that you can't doc yourself :C
:3cOops i was caught, reaction.
I said that i could not find anything relevant via google to make this believable. When questioned further his reply was.So basically, your complaint is that you don't think it's realistic for him to be town and not be a PAD character? I mean I don't really understand what other problem you could have with it. The only other thing I could get is maybe that you think he should have fullclaimed during ED1 but that'd be terrible?
"I am paraphrasing. I do not want to be modkilled."
Oops i was caught, reaction.Again IDGI? Honestly the only thing I was thinking when I saw the :3 is "I don't know if you're secretly going "haha I'm so doccing myself tonight" or if you're purposefully trying to make scum think that's what you're thinking and you really can't", or what, but let's not go into that.
His next post.1.deadline rush and this was kind of the mode for everyone at the time as we jumped from wagon to wagon, I'm not sure whether or not he had talked about raikaria before admittedly
He simply votes Raikaria.
Add to that his initial reaction to my claim.
He's trying to laugh it off, and then OMGUS votes me.
So basically, your complaint is that you don't think it's realistic for him to be town and not be a PAD character? I mean I don't really understand what other problem you could have with it. The only other thing I could get is maybe that you think he should have fullclaimed during ED1 but that'd be terrible?I am saying that he claimed something obscure and it was weird.
2.um what would YOU do when someone claims a guilty on you? I mean going "lol caught scum" and voting them is kind of the expected reaction hereI would probably sit in the corner of the self pity.
Well SORRY if I didn't pay attention to a claim I knew was bs because you claimed bogus results on me.
Will go over CF7 gradually while at school, expect a slow pace
About the agreeing with Raikaria thing: Yeah, that's exactly what I said. You went from "this case sucks" to "this case owns", all because of something Shadoweh said that was, I repeat, either a joke or WIFOM. Using either a joke or a WIFOM post as pretty much your sole reason to call someone scum is scummy in my book.Quoting posts is easy, and that's all you're doing regarding my claims. Okay, why does being defensive over my miller claim make me scum? Why is my claimed flavor scummy and fake if you couldn't google it? (like, I easily found at least 2 results on the first page while googling, it's not even obscure) And what's wrong with paraphrasing a role PM? You mean town would copy paste the whole thing and break mafia rules just to prove their role?
Add to all this his sheeping Dormio's case on me, which later was proven to be a BS case.
Raitaki, please clarify: Did you or did you not target Dormio?
roflmao CF7 I didn't even target Dormio N2. But yeah I have no way to prove that since I was rb'd so eh.
##Vote CF7
I was also waiting for a votecount to see how many votes were on CF7 and if the game would be over yet (would need 1 more townie if town)A.Quickest way to get a votecount is to ask for one
Dormio as the NK target was a nebulous guess because Dormio force-lynched the Cop.Dormio as the NK target is actually quite an easy guess, but that's beyond the point.
Time Tunnel: During the night phase you may trap another player in an endless repetition of time, incapacitating them and making them unable to do anything during the night.
For a start, I think I'd like Zak to explain how the things CF7 quoted from me were "possible scumslips".And also why the case on CF7 (AT THE TIME THAT ZAK STATED IT WAS, I know people went off the deep end with elements afterwards) was so-called mostly based on role shenanigans in Zakeri's eyes.
I don't know, Deary, I feel suspicious of the idea that most of the decent arguments put up against CF7 so far are heavily role-based., even though that was a long time after more than one person had made IMO strong cases against cf7 that were completely unrelated to his role, including Bard who was the one to mention the element thing as an aside.
If we no-lynch though, we're still not really going to get anywhere with that kind of reasoning. Do you think scum is going to kill My Little Mislynch? That's part of the reason I kind of avoided talking about it even whilst Bard got nightkilled for some strange, strange reason.
Zak is even more likely scum, though, so.
I'd have to say that I think Raitaki and Shadoweh are both very unlikely to be scum, especially since they shared a moment at the beginning of day three discussing the roleblocked message.Obviously if one of them is scum they would know the flavor around the roleblocking method, and it wouldn't be hard to ask the mod what it looked like either if they were going to pretend to be roleblocked.
I'll no-lynch but only if Chaore promises to end night after he gets a check-in message from all players.Chaore said if everyone agrees he'll do it!
Obviously if one of them is scum they would know the flavor around the roleblocking method, and it wouldn't be hard to ask the mod what it looked like either if they were going to pretend to be roleblocked.
But it still seems bad how he agreed with CF7 the first time.I still kind of agree with CF7, although I don't know if that makes it worse or not.
I'm clearing Dan based on role garbage because he doesn't exist and there's nothing to go on, and it's annoying.The problem with the Role garbage is that it's kind of garbage. His actions fit in more with scum fake-claiming the day one compulisive part of the role than with town having no choice but to fire.
Also CF7 was pushing PX a bunch at the end, I honestly think he was looking for a mislynche.I've been too lazy to actually reread the thread for these things (my excuse is it only just turned d4 and there's still 60 hours left in the day) so you pointing out stuff like that is coolbeanz.
Serious talk though, I don't get why Raitaki was suspected in LYLO at all. CF7 tried to 1v1 him the previous day, and no other protective roles had been flipped or claimed. That should've been the point where you cleared him.This was a serious point of contention for me, because he was exactly as obvtown as you said, but it also was possible there was some level of gambit involved, and the doctor's protect target dying was pretty much and if;then raitaki must be scum.
I'd feel worse about this if I didn't still think that lynching Zakeri wasn't really a bad move, apart from how he was actually town.
Also I'm not sure if SB realizes that I was full BP, not one-shot bp. Then again, Zakeri just claimed that he supported me being bulletproof. So I would have stopped being BP.
I like the Sky_Paladin rant in the GY about MOTK Meta being to lynch whoever puts in effort and giving a free pass to lurkers.
Because it's what we do. See: PX doing nothing worth shit and everyone but me giving him a free pass for it. <3
I was annoyed no one believed me when I said Dan being a vig made him scum with the BP IC.
Also when all the scum turned out to be the only people I thought were town.... <_<
I can't believe you lynched Zakeri. Like, I thoguht you would lynch Raitaki...
I believed in PX being town because of Shadoweh.I SAID THAT ABOUT CF7 TOO
I believed in PX being town because of Shadoweh.
Btw Zak, you probably could have cleared Raitaki from a balance perspective...
I thought Dan was scum vig who had the limit as a nerf because scum vig, I'm guessing he was just normal godfather vig though.
I thought Bard and Zak were scum from barely reading the game so... I also thought Dan was scummy for misfiring then dropping off the face of the earth once his claim was set.
(http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/750.jpg)also what the fuck is this? what makes an artist draw their mythological turtle stock character as a 12 year old girl?
Chaore, playing TORTOISE MOUNTAIN GENBU, MEIMEI has a splitting headache and needs alcohol, but has won the game.
also what the fuck is this? what makes an artist draw their mythological turtle stock character as a 12 year old girl?
I love this game
You need to stop using yaoi avatars.But Bard, you use Just all the time :<
But Bard, you use Just all the time :<
Yeah, but the artist I'm taking it from isn't well-known for his abusive yaoi art. Unlike Schezo who has a talent for finding them.how did you know schezo is taking his avatars from somebody who draws abusive yaoi art lol
Or fetishes best left undisclosed.
how did you know schezo is taking his avatars from somebody who draws abusive yaoi art lol
(http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/984.png) Oh shit I fucked up Lylo again didn't I.
By the way, I forgot to mention I cracked up when I saw this.
I mean seriously, we should have just thrown our hands up in the air as soon as Serela was mod confirmed town and it was LYLO.
It's amusing because town wasn't really dead in water till it was ACTUALLY LYLO and not just MYLO.arent you supposed to be drunk???
Serela powers~
arent you supposed to be drunk???