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From the Makers of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=15336
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsModToD1u0
I'm expecting a lot from this, since TTGL is one of my favorite anime of all time(and also one of the ONLY anime that I actually liked getting stronger through friendships and stuff).
Opening theme is by Aoi Eir~
Will we see some more epic universal scale battles?(I'm not hoping for this since the synopsis is already been said...then again.)
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based trigger
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based trigger
With all the animes they're involved with, it's no surprise this is gonna be good~
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yes i need this
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Yes yes yes yes yes!
That girl reminds Simon with skirt :V
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(http://puu.sh/4sKgO.jpg)
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Holy shit this show is awesome.
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i can't wait to watch this in a few hours
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Wait, fucking what? It's out already? I suck. I never figure these things out.
Okay, cool. I'm going to finish the show I'm watching tonight, and Attack On Titan ended last week so there won't even be a week gap for the group I usually watch new anime with. Excellent.
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This passes the "funky in a good way" test.
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Fucking love it.
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Holy shit this show is awesome.
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SAVING ANIME, ETC
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based trigger
SAVING ANIME, ETC
All of the above.
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Yeah this was pretty good, getting a RE: Cutey Honey vibe which is nice.
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this is so obviously and blatantly Gainax in style that I have to keep watching
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alright time to watch
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wow is this a new record for godwins law
dat fucking zoom out omg
omg uzu's voice actor is NOBUYUKI HIYAMA (hes fucking Link)
NONON'S VOICE ACTOR IS HARUKO FROM FLCL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
thank you based trigger ;_____;
dat outfit
...is half ganmen
eventually she's gonna turn into a ttgl mecha :derp:
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and there we go (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1509400?tags=kill_la_kill) danbooru
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and there we go (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1509400?tags=kill_la_kill) danbooru
I feel fucking ashamed for not making the connection until it was shown to me explicitly.
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She even actually has two little horns just like Seija
also looking closer at the scissor blade, it seems that the bladed edge is actually the flat side even though the curved edge looks like it supposed to be the blade park
in other words, ITS A SAKABATO
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That only makes sense since it's half of a scissor.
and i basically made all the observations you did so yeah
Ryuuko is voiced by Ami Koshimizu who's done roles like Anemone from E7, Horo from Spice and Wolf, Kallen Stadtfeld from Geass, etc.
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also she pretty much always hits with the non bladed side except when she clearly flipped it the first time and the final slicing attack
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Yeah I was impressed by that detail. I didn't realize it until she was pounding away at Fukuroda and he wasn't, y'know, being cut in half.
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Looking good - pure essence of crazy awesome always seems to work.
Although I wonder how much of its appeal is just because we like Gurren Lagann.
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Just watched the first episode, it's basically watching two Gurren Laganns at the same time. So it's great.
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Maybe I should actually watch this
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Maybe I should actually watch this
tell the anime club to show it
right now
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Episode 1, everything exceeded expectations :V.
Thank you based Madoka Trigger.
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tell the anime club to show it
right now
Fridays before 2pm, they watch anime, and already watched the first ep of Kill la Kill. JOIN US YO
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Fridays before 2pm, they watch anime, and already watched the first ep of Kill la Kill. JOIN US YO
oh did i already miss the first night
oops :derp:
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My goodness, just finished with the first episode (a bit late to the party, I know), and I must say it's WONDERFUL. Gonna keep watchin' for sure, it's probably already among my favorites since it felt like Gurren Lagann all over again.
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I see a lot of people around the internet, not just here, saying that the show reminds them of Gurren Lagann, and I just don't see how. Watching it again, RE: Cutey Honey seems to be the most appropriate comparison as far as Gainax shows go. If it keeps up then I'd love to see how close it ends up being to RCH since that's my favorite CH adaptation ever.
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I see a lot of people around the internet, not just here, saying that the show reminds them of Gurren Lagann, and I just don't see how. Watching it again, RE: Cutey Honey seems to be the most appropriate comparison as far as Gainax shows go. If it keeps up then I'd love to see how close it ends up being to RCH since that's my favorite CH adaptation ever.
I definitely see the Gurren Lagann-ness. Aside from the visual stuff (the art style, the Gurren Lagann themes like drills and faces on things, the similar character designs) it's paced in a very similar way and the dialogue is basically interchangeable. Those are probably more marks of the studio than that specific show, but even if I wasn't aware going in that it was the same studio I imagine I would've picked it up within like fifteen seconds.
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I definitely see the Gurren Lagann-ness. Aside from the visual stuff (the art style, the Gurren Lagann themes like drills and faces on things, the similar character designs) it's paced in a very similar way and the dialogue is basically interchangeable. Those are probably more marks of the studio than that specific show, but even if I wasn't aware going in that it was the same studio I imagine I would've picked it up within like fifteen seconds.
Some how I missed all the faces the first time, especially the one on her outfit. However, I'm seeing the RCH likenesses in her transformation/outfit, her weapon (a stretch since Honey uses a sword), the fights themselves (only one to compare to thus far) and especially with the villain structure/hierarchy. I'll probably wind up calling them Panther Claw on multiple occasions.
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That's assuming they end up the main antagonists too.
I mean the premise of this actually staying 'girl vs. school' seems to be drifting a bit- satsuki's smart enough to keep from throwing one of her aces straight at the new unforeseen force, she's probably smart enough to turn this situation on it's head. Just tell the girl what she wants, send her after someone who's probably working against honnouji, have a fuckin' ball. It seems like it's just leading us on a bit here but...eh, could be me.
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That's assuming they end up the main antagonists too.
I mean the premise of this actually staying 'girl vs. school' seems to be drifting a bit- satsuki's smart enough to keep from throwing one of her aces straight at the new unforeseen force, she's probably smart enough to turn this situation on it's head. Just tell the girl what she wants, send her after someone who's probably working against honnouji, have a fuckin' ball. It seems like it's just leading us on a bit here but...eh, could be me.
Also good points. I'm looking forward to seeing how the series turns out. That said I'm still going to make my roommates watch RCH this week so they can understand what I'm on about.
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I just watched the first episode and this is an amazing thing. I so wanna cosplay Ryuuko she is a total BAMF but mannnnnn that outfit is a bit... much xD
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(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/1381213030-mako-flail-big.gif)
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I've been watching Attack On Titan saturday nights with a group of people, and now that it's over we've unanimously transitioned to this. It's going to be tough resisting the urge to pre-watch it every week.
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I recommended the show to my former roommate, who originally showed me Gurren Lagann a few years ago. He and his fiance both loved it, and he noticed that in the establishing shots of the classroom there's a kid in the back row playing with Marvel comics action figures behind a propped up book. In the first scene it's grey Hulk and Iron Man, and the second time it's green Hulk and Destroyer. That's a neat detail. :D
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If you look really closely there's a Sentinel in his desk:
(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/thumbnails/1381209376-screenshot_ep1-55.png) (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/1381209376-screenshot_ep1-55.png)
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If you look really closely there's a Sentinel in his desk:
(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/thumbnails/1381209376-screenshot_ep1-55.png) (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/1381209376-screenshot_ep1-55.png)
wackbot
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If you look really closely there's a Sentinel in his desk:
(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/thumbnails/1381209376-screenshot_ep1-55.png) (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/fate/images/1381209376-screenshot_ep1-55.png)
Ha! So there is. Cool.
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Alright so I finally watched the first episode
...yeah this will be the anime to watch this season. I haven't had this much fun on a first episode in a while.
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She wields half a scissor blade and there are red strings of fate all over the fucking OP. symbolism~
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second episode
someone stop me before i loop it the whole day in office
fangirling intensifies
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its out?
oh hell yesss
the teacher is 2sexy4me
man this is looking more like panty and stocking 2 than gurren lagaan 2 :V
poor mako is getting the danganronpa treatment ;-;
omg mako your so fucking precious
so much nudity
this is pretty much the psg sequel :V
except now with proper plot
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Gainax shows KLK cribs off of:
1) Re Cutey Honey
2) Diebuster
3) PSG
Not ranked) Gurren Lagann
Ended up watching it 3 times tonight due to reasons, it's basically the best show this year hands down.
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Jumping on the 'this show is absolutely amazing' bandwagon. Even the credits got a laugh out of me - Guts [the dog] is listed as being voiced by '?'
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after the first episode i thought the final episode would culminate with everyone wearing universe sized uniforms
but now its clear that the final episode will just have everyone fighting totally naked
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Holy shit this is like the Dead Leaves series that I always wanted, only infinitely better
after the first episode i thought the final episode would culminate with everyone wearing universe sized uniforms
but now its clear that the final episode will just have everyone fighting totally naked
but they don't have powers without uniforms
that would be too boring
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Big Bitch has only a sword and she's p.rad so far
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Big Bitch has only a sword and she's p.rad so far
Next ep. preview showed that the president also has a kamui uniform, though.
e: it even has a name, Junketsu.
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second episode someone stop me before i loop it the whole day in office
fangirling intensifies
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My enjoyment knows no bounds.
That underboob is the miracle anime deserves. :V :V
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So the second episode was basically the first episode again, but slightly less happened. I am so okay with that. I think you pretty much have to watch every episode twice, because there's no way you can both read the dialogue and catch every crazy visual thing that's going on.
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Show was fun, and the premise and designs were pretty cool. The fanservice and sprite flipping thing can fuck right off though.
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Show was fun, and the premise and designs were pretty cool. The fanservice and sprite flipping thing can fuck right off though.
The sprite flipping thing was great though; Mako is the best character ever.
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The sprite flipping thing was great though; Mako is the best character ever.
Agreed, the sprite flipping and the steam shooting out of her costume are still funny every time. I could do with a lot less fanservice, but as I was ultimately okay with it in Gurren Lagann for various reasons I think I'll be okay with it here. It's less creepy when it's this self-aware, even though it probably shouldn't be.
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A lot of the fanservice is done intentionally to make fun of it. She's obviously very aware it's happening and she's going out of her way to point out how ridiculous it is. I really believe this is all a subtle critique of magical girl and schoolage animes as it pretty much makes fun of all the troupes.
Mako is pretty much making fun of the "best friend of the MC" troupe by having her just immediately go BEST FUCKING FRIEND EVER DON'T WORRY ABOUT THIS GUY THEY KILLED HIM IT'S OK WE'RE BESTIES FOREVER! They make fun of the whole magical girl transformation sequence and the whole troupe where nobody notices them getting naked and then changing into their outfits by making fun of Ryuuko as an exhibitionist. Even the teachers are like "yeah we know Satsuki is pretty much pure evil but we're not gonna do anything because her mom signs our paychecks". Even Satsuki's motives are like off the wall, she sits there quoting Animal Farm and wants to take over the world through school uniforms and back door terrorist attacks disguised as school competition activities.
Plus with the fanservice it isn't just the girls getting singled out. The whole bishounen striptease thing with the homeroom teacher with Ryuuko going wtf is going on please put your shirt back on .______.;;
Seriously, this has a female MC that fucking kicks ass and has no qualms that she needs a man or whatever to support her. But even though she's a badass she's not rude and mean. She's nice to the kids that give up after she shows them they're out of their league, she gives the delivery guy his delivery after stealing his bike, etc. She just doesn't take any shit from anyone, and I love it. And Mako, even though she's being used as the "damsel in distress", makes fun of that troupe! She's not even close to passive and most of the time she's not even in fear of her life, she has no concerns that Ryuuko won't save the day and prove how amazing of a friend she is. She pretty much openly mocks her captors and the "peril" they put her in.
Seriously I could rant for hours just on the first two episodes, and if things keep up the way they are it's going to be amazing.
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The sprite flipping thing was great though
Kind of disheartening seeing Powerpoint tricks used by the very studio that brought you Little Witch Academia.
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Kind of disheartening seeing Powerpoint tricks used by the very studio that brought you Little Witch Academia.
...you really think they used that for any reason besides purposeful comedic effect?
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The artwork is so outlandish and animated and ridiculous, like it couldn't get more anime than what it is now. The characters are so goddamn expressive and everything is just ridiculous to the max, nothing feels lazy at all. There's huge attention to detail in even little things like the Sentinel figure in the kid's desk. Believe me, I was peeling the first episode apart for cosplay reference and I took tons of still shots >>
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The artwork is so outlandish and animated and ridiculous, like it couldn't get more anime than what it is now. The characters are so goddamn expressive and everything is just ridiculous to the max, nothing feels lazy at all. There's huge attention to detail in even little things like the Sentinel figure in the kid's desk. Believe me, I was peeling the first episode apart for cosplay reference and I took tons of still shots >>
I agree with all of this.^
I haven't even finished my last cosplay, but I'm already strongly considering commissioning something from this show for next year. Lots of good options already, and I'm sure there are tons and tons of designs left before it's over.
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how I watch this episode.
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how I watch this episode.
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I've gotta say this anime is quite good. From the first two episodes, I can clearly see that it's different from the rest of the anime airing this season. Trigger does it again (I will always enjoy Inferno Copu)
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I didn't realize Ryuko is voiced by Ami Koshimizu. VA of Mugino Shizuri, one of my favorite hot and sadistic characters of all time.
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Even lewder. Oh god even lewder. Love it.
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brb running out of the house naked to see if I become superman
but really
felt like the preview was talking to me, it's past 1 am here
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this fucking show omg
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reaction for episode 3 basically:
ppppasu: ah
ppppasu: help this is too fucking badass
ppppasu: >how small you are
ppppasu: omg double meaning
ppppasu: o m f g ma k o
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fUCK i feel crushed by the sheer badassness of this goddamn show
I usually really despise such blatant fanservice but they make it work somehow
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It's mainly because two women fighting in a SCREAMING MURDEROUS RAGE isn't very sexual, no matter how naked they are :V
As a side note, I kind of think it was a mistake to have Ryuko fight the final boss on equal terms this early, now fighting her way through the student council totem pole seems like kind of a trivial speedbump.
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I'm going to assume all the heads and club leaders will have assorted tricks or rules that will make the fight interesting.
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i think thats a safe assumption after the second episode
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two women fighting in a SCREAMING MURDEROUS RAGE isn't very sexual
speak for yourself buddy
How many eps there will be? 'Cause there seemed to be quite a lot of club presidents for her to fight
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gainax's old full series were typically 26 episodes
the club fights will probably go to around the halfway point and then arc change or something
also mako is the best best friend ever
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I'm going to assume all the heads and club leaders will have assorted tricks or rules that will make the fight interesting.
Or that premise will be dropped in a few episodes and the show will be about something else suddenly. If this does not happen at some point within the first ten I'll be shocked.
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The artwork is so outlandish and animated and ridiculous, like it couldn't get more anime than what it is now.
This is the main reason I love this show so much, the zaniness of the animation and how fluid it is during the fight scenes is just incredible.
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I thought the first two episodes were pretty okay. Lackluster dialog. Unremarkable humor. 2muchreferences4me. Uninspired character personalities (which I presumed was intentional so that they can develop it, so it didn't bother me that much). Though I will say some of the action scenes were pretty entertaining, good ol' hot-blooded fun. And the setting seemed interesting too. The main thing that kept my interest was the music, which has been completely amazing all the way through. I wasn't particularly fond of this show at first, but I planned to give it at least 3 episode, like what I usually do with most shows airing.
And the 3rd episodes was absolutely fantastic. This episode had the best of everything so far. Best action, best character interactions, best dialog, best everything. And of course, the music was superb as usual. I know I've said it already but, oh god I love the music. Looking forward to the next episodes.
satsuki and mako best grills
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I've taken to calling the main villain (Satsuki?) Sister Jill because I can't remember her real name (also because Cutey Honey). It drives my roommates crazy.
Oh right, show is great still.
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Show gets better every episode. And I don't know if this is some secret message on body positivity or what but seriously it's like EMBRACE HOW HOT YOU ARE AND BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF PEOPLE WITH IT!
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I knew Satsuki has that
battle uniform also
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Satsuki is just an awesome villain in general. She is completely, 100% devoted to her goals and she's completely willing to do whatever it takes to achieve them. She oozes badass from every pore.
I'm kind of glad they got rid of the blood-drain timer though. Having every fight end with Ryuko running away to not pass out was going to get a bit silly.
[also how the hell does ryuko share a voice actor with yukiko amagi that just doesn't seem physically possible]
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Whoa, I was waiting the usual 3 episodes for a more consistent opinion, and this show just gets more awesome each time. It's amazing out superbly animated and unashamedly anime-tastic it is.
I was a little concerned by the seemingly unnecessary fanservice, but now it's clear that it's supposed to be not only blatantly tongue-in-cheek, but also actually relevant, since clothing and nakedness seem to be the underlying themes of the show.
There seems to be a commentary on the semiotics of clothing and power both at obvious and subtle levels here. Early on Satsuki calls to attention that traditional Japanese uniforms are actually modified military uniforms (to which she even added rank insignia equivalents). And being "better dressed" not only makes you physically more powerful, but it's directly related to the position you get to have in society.
On the other hand there's the notion that the clothes don't ultimately "make the person", what you are underneath the clothes (in spirit, that is) is the the important thing when dressing. If you lack confidence and are ashamed of your body, clothes are just a disguise. All the Goku wearers are literally stripped of their clothes (power signifiers) when defeated, but both both Satsuki and Matoi draw their strength from accepting the inherent "nakedness" of their outfits.
Anyway, just my musings on what stood out in this show for me.
Speaking of which, I'm really hoping it goes for 26 episodes, since lately almost every anime seems to be playing it safe with 13 episodes.
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That and the whole fanservice angle is being used both to make fun of the whole concept as well as overtly make fun of otaku who objectify women in that sort of fashion. While I agree the presentation may be a bit problematic and uncomfortable to some people, I really feel like there's a whole different level of social commentary going on.
You should have heard my rant about this last night on #scarlet-library. Just from 3 episodes alone I've pulled a ton of very succinct social commentary on this show and I am absolutely excited to see what direction Trigger takes this. Along with that there is a complete lack of gender roles of any kind attempted to be enforced. Ryuuko is a badass but she needs no man in her life to save her, and Satsuki bows to no man as well. And while they're both written as "strong" women, they're not being written as masculine as is the tendency. Satsuki has ambition and determination, she is totally dedicated to her cause, but this is not being conflated as masculine. She does not look nor act masculine (wearing heels and the way she poses), even going so far as to referring to her Kamui as a wedding dress. While Ryuuko is performing a traditionally male role in society, "avenging" (or at least, investigating the circumstances of) her father's death, she's not portrayed as masculine as well. She's clearly girly and proud of it, but at the same time still being a complete badass who doesn't take shit from anyone. She may not have agency in her situation right now, but this is not because she's a girl.
She's embarrassed for being forced to "expose" herself during her transformation sequence, and when others start to expose themselves, but this is not being presented with the intent to show that overt showing of sexuality is "unladylike". Mako's mom makes that clear, she asks about the exhibitionist thing not as "omg ew that's weird" but more out of a straight up curiosity. Mako is very open in her sexuality and how attractive Ryuuko is and that she should flaunt it and be proud of it (I would not be surprised if she's queer in some fashion). Yet at the same time Ryuuko is not just a pair of boobs and good legs, she crushes people who just think she's just using her attractiveness as a weapon. So does Satsuki, she scorns the commoners for fawning over her during her transformation sequence, and scorns Ryuuko for feeling embarrassment from the rabble getting their kicks in. Fuck the haters, if you want to be cute or hot you do it for yourself, and don't let others' opinions sway how you wish to present yourself. But don't feel forced to act or dress sexily because other people are pigs and only see beauty and self worth as skin deep.
There's also a very huge social commentary on the stratification of society and arbitrary factors not only determining social status, but potentially affecting quality of life entirely. The way the academy is structured is very stratified. Where you live and what accommodations you have, down to the food you're able to eat, are all based on what star uniform you have. Satsuki runs a very strict meritocracy; personal ability gets you your station in life, not flattery. She sees flattery and brownnosing as something commoners do. People with agency and power know they have power and do not subvert to other people. This has problems though, as it turns people into resources to be used by those with more ambition, and neglects their feelings and ultimately their humanity. Satsuki literally sees everyone as pawns for her ambition, and that her charge in life is to lead people from their worthless lives into a greater purpose.
The whole commentary on the uniforms being not just an overt show of status, but of power is a further social commentary on appearances being a tool used to force conformity to a cause, one the person may not necessarily believe in. They made a very clear point to demonstrate their class uniforms as being based off of military uniforms. There's an extreme sense of discipline being instilled across all aspects of school life, to the point of absurdity such as being punished for not getting permission to be kidnapped. All the class material being read so far has been of totalitarian dictators such as Mussolini and Hitler. Fascism is clearly what's being presented here, a blind dedication to a cause and having belief in such reflecting status in society. This is what Ryuuko is struggling to fight against (whether she's aware of it or not is up to debate though), to give people their own agency in life, while at the same time respecting every human as an equal.
Ryuuko thinks she's fighting to figure out who killed her dad, but it's being hinted at that she's being forced into a struggle she may not necessarily believe in, and that her dad may not have been the saint she had been idolizing him as. Ryuuko has energy and determination but no idea what she's fighting for or even who she's fighting against, and Satsuki directly scorns and attacks her for this. Satsuki isn't even necessarily the person who killed her dad, she just happens to be someone who may know, and there's an underlying hint at a conflict between her dad and Satsuki's family. Ryuuko is kind of just flailing at the first person in front of her and fighting blindly without any sense of purpose or belief. But at the same time she doesn't see Ryuuko as a peon or beneath her, in fact she respects her as an equal due to her display of will. She just does not respect her motivations as Ryuuko has not shown any agency in them.
I am ecstatic to see what direction this goes as the show continues. While there hasn't been very much in the way of deep character exposition, I feel like what they've hinted at so far shows there's A LOT more here than just a simple PUNCH ALL THE FACES AND CRUSH THE POWER SYSTEM typical youthful rebellion story. Along with the deconstruction of magical girl and schoolage coming of life shows and their troupes (and overtly making fun of the mouthbreathing otaku, which I heavily endorse), they're hinting at a much greater social commentary in general on not only class and social standing, but on all social constructs (gender, etc) and personal identity in general.
I will say I do enjoy the point you brought up on the whole concept of the Kamui being "being comfortable in one's skin". It's clear that the uniforms are being portrayed as alive in some fashion, and exerting a will of their own. The attempt to put on a 50% life fiber uniform resulted in the person going completely berserk, and when the other Kamui was activated Senketsu was described as having "goosebumps", not unlike a skin. And Satsuki clearly references her transformation as making her "pure". She becomes an object of pure willpower and determination, all airs and other social constructs are stripped away and the person is left completely exposed. All the Goku uniforms shown so far seem to be hyperexaggerations of a particular role each person is playing, and like you said, when the others are defeated they are "exposed" as the frauds they are. Contrast this to both Satsuki and Ryuuko; they are powerful in their own might without any "aid", the Kamui is merely unlocking it.
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Hear, hear. That's pretty much my own impressions as well, put more eloquently. I focused more on the clothing theme, because clothes and fashion as signifier have been one of my interests for quite some time, and it was a nice surprise to see an anime (and a kick-ass one at that) adopting it.
Satsuki's Kamui being referred as her "wedding dress" was also very interesting. Historically, wedding was the most a woman could hope for advancing in life and society, and even today it's still largely thought of, specially in media, as the biggest event of her life. But Satsuki not only eschews, but outright ignores the idea of attaching herself to a man as a way of advancing in life. Instead, by putting on Junketsu she seem to be metaphorically "getting married to herself" (well, it could be argued that she is marrying Junketsu itself, but the Kamui seem to be represented not really as fully independent beings, but rather as symbiotic potentializers of their wearers).
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[also how the hell does ryuko share a voice actor with yukiko amagi that just doesn't seem physically possible]
Ami Koshimizu is just that wonderful. Plus Atlus loves her.
EDIT:
HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS EARLIER.
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My only complaint about the fanservice is I wonder if Trigger could have gotten their point across re: body positivity and embracing femininity and such without it. Because while I definitely don't feel like it's being done just to have an excuse to have Ryuuko in skimpy clothing, it might have reached a wider audience without it. Right now it's very hard for me to go "hey this show is amazing and is a huge girl power thing but... everyone basically shows their boobs off the entire time" :S
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See, I kinda have my doubts those messages are deliberate, I think you're just interpreting it that way. At the end of the day their goal is to sell Blurays to otaku, so they're making a crazy show about naked girls fighting. If it turns out to have good writing and a positive message then that's just gravy.
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See, I kinda have my doubts those messages are deliberate, I think you're just interpreting it that way. At the end of the day their goal is to sell Blurays to otaku, so they're making a crazy show about naked girls fighting. If it turns out to have good writing and a positive message then that's just gravy.
this
why would they care about positive messages when those messages wont make money for studio compared to faaaanservice
ryuko pls blush more
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why would they care about positive messages when those messages wont make money for studio compared to faaaanservice
ryuko pls blush more
I don't know, I guess because they're competent writers and can do two or more things at once? I don't mean we should just dismiss the fanservice, but I don't follow the "This is porn, it has no content" line of thought.
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I don't know, I guess because they're competent writers and can do two or more things at once? I don't mean we should just dismiss the fanservice, but I don't follow the "This is porn, it has no content" line of thought.
i never said there was no content outside the fanservice, just saying that all that body positivity isnt a major concern/factor since its not like it'll bring in the big bucks as opposed to aforementioned fanservice ._.????
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Because while I get the whole "sex sells" they're pretty overtly going out of their way to make fun of the people who are into it just for the sexy shots. Pretty much all the boys who drool over her are being portrayed as disgusting manpigs. Even Satsuki outright says it. Maybe I'm just reading the intent because I'd hate to think it is being done strictly for the gratuitousness :S
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i never said there was no content outside the fanservice, just saying that all that body positivity isnt a major concern/factor since its not like it'll bring in the big bucks as opposed to aforementioned fanservice ._.????
Okay, fair enough. It's more accurate for me to say I don't understand the "This fanservice is porn, it can serve no other intentional purpose" line of thought. At the very least to me it looks like it's supposed to be way more funny than sexy. Even more so than say, Gurren Lagann, where it seemed like the comparatively light fanservice was supposed to basically be straight-up fanservice, I get the impression it's part of the comedy tone this time. It would be interesting to somehow watch an episode without it and see how much it effects the tone.
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{strap boing}
YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND LIKE A RECORD BABY RIGHT ROUND ROUND ROUND (http://images.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Kill-la-Kill-Episode-3-064.gif)
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My only complaint about the fanservice is I wonder if Trigger could have gotten their point across re: body positivity and embracing femininity and such without it. Because while I definitely don't feel like it's being done just to have an excuse to have Ryuuko in skimpy clothing, it might have reached a wider audience without it. Right now it's very hard for me to go "hey this show is amazing and is a huge girl power thing but... everyone basically shows their boobs off the entire time" :S
In the general sense, I think the only way to address this issue with no "yeah, but..."s attached is to have the transformee choose the design of their new outfit rather than have the transformer powers-that-be design it for them.
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The more and more I analyze it the less and less I can defend the fanservice as having some sort of deeper meaning than using sex to get eyeballs. This is not saying that Trigger may not have a deeper meaning and positive message within, but that it's being clouded by the methods they are choosing to present it. I really hate to think they chose to present Ryuuko and Satsuki in the manner they are simply because "well neckbeards won't watch a show about strong female characters so let's add in boobs to attract viewers". All that's doing is reinforcing stereotypes that women only matter for their sex appeal, that in the end their body and their looks is what really matters.
What made me change my mind is how Ryuuko did not choose at any point her situation. She did not choose to put on Senketsu, she was led into the situation by the homeroom teacher and it forcibly put itself on her in a scene very very uncomfortably close to rape or sexual assault. Every time she transforms she is forced to expose herself at great discomfort and rather than the suit changing to accommodate her discomfort, she eventually is told she needs to accept it as it is, and in a further uncomfortable allusion to sexual assault, embrace it. This is a huge concept of rape culture, that victims are asking for it by how they look and how they dress and that they should not only forgive, but embrace their attackers for merely acting on the signals they gave. Senketsu was just looking to form a bond, he can't help it involved taking her clothes off forcefully and drinking her blood until she passed out! Just accept it and it'll go a lot easier on you!
Contrast this to Satsuki, who put on Jenketsu knowing what it would do and how it'd look based on how Senketsu treated Ryuuko. She is not ashamed of her exposure. But I'm ok with that, because in the end she chose it. She was fully aware of it and if that's what she wants then that's OK. But why is the "bad guy" given agency over her body yet being portrayed as some form of feminazi in every other aspect, when Ryuuko, who's supposedly the protagonist, is being forced to expose herself against her will and then being told she has to just accept it as a fact of life? There are some serious mixed signals going on. Satsuki, the hardcore unforgiving dictator, given full agency over her body, vs Ryuuko, the kind hearted person, who is forced to expose herself and like it in order to have any power in "society".
I will continue to watch it hoping I was right in my initial assessment and there is a deeper point to this, but right now I am really uncomfortable and hesitant to recommend it until I can safely say that it's worth it. Because right now I am getting very mixed feelings about it, which sucks because I really really like Ryuuko and Satsuki as characters. My rabid fangirling has been dropped to a tepid "please prove me right and don't feed the neck beards..."
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The more and more I analyze it the less and less I can defend the fanservice as having some sort of deeper meaning than using sex to get eyeballs. This is not saying that Trigger may not have a deeper meaning and positive message within, but that it's being clouded by the methods they are choosing to present it. I really hate to think they chose to present Ryuuko and Satsuki in the manner they are simply because "well neckbeards won't watch a show about strong female characters so let's add in boobs to attract viewers". All that's doing is reinforcing stereotypes that women only matter for their sex appeal, that in the end their body and their looks is what really matters.
What made me change my mind is how Ryuuko did not choose at any point her situation. She did not choose to put on Senketsu, she was led into the situation by the homeroom teacher and it forcibly put itself on her in a scene very very uncomfortably close to rape or sexual assault. Every time she transforms she is forced to expose herself at great discomfort and rather than the suit changing to accommodate her discomfort, she eventually is told she needs to accept it as it is, and in a further uncomfortable allusion to sexual assault, embrace it. This is a huge concept of rape culture, that victims are asking for it by how they look and how they dress and that they should not only forgive, but embrace their attackers for merely acting on the signals they gave. Senketsu was just looking to form a bond, he can't help it involved taking her clothes off forcefully and drinking her blood until she passed out! Just accept it and it'll go a lot easier on you!
Contrast this to Satsuki, who put on Jenketsu knowing what it would do and how it'd look based on how Senketsu treated Ryuuko. She is not ashamed of her exposure. But I'm ok with that, because in the end she chose it. She was fully aware of it and if that's what she wants then that's OK. But why is the "bad guy" given agency over her body yet being portrayed as some form of feminazi in every other aspect, when Ryuuko, who's supposedly the protagonist, is being forced to expose herself against her will and then being told she has to just accept it as a fact of life? There are some serious mixed signals going on. Satsuki, the hardcore unforgiving dictator, given full agency over her body, vs Ryuuko, the kind hearted person, who is forced to expose herself and like it in order to have any power in "society".
I will continue to watch it hoping I was right in my initial assessment and there is a deeper point to this, but right now I am really uncomfortable and hesitant to recommend it until I can safely say that it's worth it. Because right now I am getting very mixed feelings about it, which sucks because I really really like Ryuuko and Satsuki as characters. My rabid fangirling has been dropped to a tepid "please prove me right and don't feed the neck beards..."
Those are certainly valid complaints. The group I've been watching this and I have been talking about it after each episode so far, and have pretty firmly come to the conclusion that the show has firmly established itself, as far as we can see, as satirizing fanservice in anime as a genre. The transformation sequences in the second episode sealed the deal for us. But if you accept that premise, and it seems like many people don't there's still the separate issue of what it's okay to satirize and how. And obviously Trigger still has a lot of space left to sway their audience in pretty much any direction at this point, so maybe we'll change our minds, but we've been actively watching with these things in mind and will continue to do so. It's an interesting discussion anyway, no matter how it ultimately shakes out.
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A detailed breakdown of how creative decisions are made at Trigger:
Imaishi: Here's some crazy thing I thought of
Everyone else: Sounds awesome
I honestly doubt it's much more complex than that, and I would be frankly amazed if they were actually trying to make some kind of nuanced commentary on gender politics. I doubt the fanservice is otaku pandering either, since Imaishi has always been pretty bold creatively and seems to just make whatever it is he wants to make. Maybe the dude just likes sexy ladies. I know that will probably sound fucking insane to you, but it is a statistically significant possibility here.
I think that what's happening in this thread is that you're seeing this show through the lens of an elaborate political narrative you've crafted for yourself, and you're squinting to see how it fits into that narrative when in reality it simply doesn't. As Nate Silver would say, you're seeing a signal where there is only noise.
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A detailed breakdown of how creative decisions are made at Trigger:
Imaishi: Here's some crazy thing I thought of
Everyone else: Sounds awesome
I honestly doubt it's much more complex than that, and I would be frankly amazed if they were actually trying to make some kind of nuanced commentary on gender politics. I doubt the fanservice is otaku pandering either, since Imaishi has always been pretty bold creatively and seems to just make whatever it is he wants to make. Maybe the dude just likes sexy ladies. I know that will probably sound fucking insane to you, but it is a statistically significant possibility here.
I think that what's happening in this thread is that you're seeing this show through the lens of an elaborate political narrative you've crafted for yourself, and you're squinting to see how it fits into that narrative when in reality it simply doesn't. As Nate Silver would say, you're seeing a signal where there is only noise.
I can't say that I'm that familiar with Trigger, but there was some stuff going on in Gurren Lagann aside from "LOL robots random". Was that all Gainax's input? Gurren Lagann isn't the most cerebral show out there, and I doubt this will be either, but I don't know that it's fair to assume that they're just a bunch of noise and explosions happening with no intentional content at all. Unless that really is how all Trigger shows are, I guess. Are they?
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I'm not saying there is zero subtext or social commentary happening. But if you have to ask why something in this show is the way it is, odds are the answer is "because it's cool." A lot of the claims TSO has made in this thread are highly speculative and outlandish, and her track record of extraordinary single-mindedness when it comes to this type of thing only adds to my skepticism.
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Is Go Nagai involved in this at all? Director? Writer? Producer? Key Grip? Best Boy? Special Thanks? Catering?
I ask because this is seeming more and more like nothing more than a big Go Nagai tribute show (something I am totally on board with but w/e)
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I ask because this is seeming more and more like nothing more than a big Go Nagai tribute show (something I am totally on board with but w/e)
I can definitely see the influence. IIRC the director explicitly singled out Mazinger Z as part of his inspiration for Gurren Lagann.
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I haven't seen this kind of series bring out a discussion like this in a long time. Pretty solid ratings at ANN, too, fwiw. So this'll make great antidotal material for the dark winter ahead.
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A detailed breakdown of how creative decisions are made at Trigger:
Imaishi: Here's some crazy thing I thought of
Everyone else: Sounds awesome
I honestly doubt it's much more complex than that, and I would be frankly amazed if they were actually trying to make some kind of nuanced commentary on gender politics. I doubt the fanservice is otaku pandering either, since Imaishi has always been pretty bold creatively and seems to just make whatever it is he wants to make. Maybe the dude just likes sexy ladies. I know that will probably sound fucking insane to you, but it is a statistically significant possibility here.
I think that what's happening in this thread is that you're seeing this show through the lens of an elaborate political narrative you've crafted for yourself, and you're squinting to see how it fits into that narrative when in reality it simply doesn't. As Nate Silver would say, you're seeing a signal where there is only noise.
I don't disagree at all with this. I will fully admit part of what I'm reading as motive is from a vain hope that there is a deeper discourse going on, rather than just hopelessly reinforcing the stereotypes. It's also not an unsafe assumption to make given the history of both the current studio and the studio it was formerly a part of. Gainax is known for not only being "edgy", but for pushing the boundaries and deconstructing genres in a greater commentary on society. Imaishi was involved in not only TTGL, but also was a part of Evangelion and other more "thought provoking" projects, and it's not a stretch to think that some of that culture may have rubbed off on him. If this was a show from KyoAni, I would not be entertaining such romantic ideas about it, because KyoAni has no history of doing anything but pander. Same as if this had come from Gonzo. The context is what gave me the initial thought, although I'm now tepidly awaiting conformation before continuing to push with it. Gainax is also known for pandering to the max in a lot of cases so it is potentially that Imaishi simply wants to watch ladies stab at each other and Ryuuko spread eagle every 5 minutes. In that case it's a disappointment and then the problematic parts have no further excuse, he's just perpetuating rape culture and objectification of women at that point. It would be extremely disappointing to me if that were the case, so I admit fully to hanging onto the narrative that there is a further point to this than just being an ignorant assbutt.
That being said, even if there is a deeper point and commentary and reasoning to why he's choosing to present the story in the manner he's chosen, I'm not going to belittle people who still find it uncomfortable. I recognize that sometimes in order to raise discussion, one must bear the "ugly truth", and to do so, may require demonstrating distressing concepts in extreme manners. The styling of the show leads me to believe that there is a deeper motive, that it isn't just a more extreme form of pandering. And even if in the end, we find out Imaishi just wanted to see boobs flop in the air and Ryuuko spread eagle on TV, he would have still created controversy and driven discourse. Not all controversy in media is self-created, sometimes it just happens when an uncomfortable topic is suddenly made very visible. Women being objectified in nerd culture is a huge source of discourse in the Western fandom right now, and it's unsurprising that such a graphic display of such is creating controversy and discussion in and of itself, even if that wasn't ever Imaishi's intent.
Either way, I'm holding my breath for further confirmation one way or the other. If it becomes apparent there isn't any deeper meaning to this then I will probably end up dropping it if it continues on its current schtick. As awesome as Ryuuko and Satsuki are as characters, the fanservice really makes me uncomfortable at times, and the rape culture messages are really unacceptable. But if my thoughts on the overall intentions end up being validated in some fashion, then I will definitely be thrilled, even if I may disagree with some of the methods used to discuss them. I would be more at ease pushing aside my discomforts and misgivings if the overall message ends up being positive. I do have guilty pleasures I enjoy simply for the eye candy, and there's nothing "wrong" with Imaishi doing so if that's what the fanservice (as ridiculous as it is) ends up being. The issue would be more with his allegories to sexual assault and rape culture that I could not forgive. The fanservice I'd find tasteless, and distressingly pushing a negative stereotype, but if the guy likes drawing sexy things then so be it, there's nothing really inherently wrong with that. I enjoy dark humor myself as well, and I will admit to being a bad person for chuckling at possibly racist or bigoted jokes, but I don't espouse those views nor even remotely support them in real life. I don't equate what people watch or consume as indicative of someone's actual thoughts and feelings. It's if they choose to act on such that determine if they're a bad person, not the things they associate with. I don't run around calling people sexist or bigoted for liking things I find problematic, unless they parrot and support those notions.
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I haven't watched ep. 3 yet nor really read the discussion here because no time, and Imma let you finish but のののののんーーーー (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqrRDTj4_v8)
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I'm actually really curious what they're going to do with Nonon. She's a total question mark at the moment, and she's designed a lot differently than the other female characters so far.
I kind of expect her to matrix dodge the whole fanservice thing, maybe even subvert it somehow.
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overanalysing things you like take the fun out of them, right, why even :derp:
off topic fanart! http://puu.sh/4X1sN.jpg
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That being said, even if there is a deeper point and commentary and reasoning to why he's choosing to present the story in the manner he's chosen, I'm not going to belittle people who still find it uncomfortable.
i think you are
the fanservice really makes me uncomfortable at times,
referring to yourself?
and the rape culture messages are really unacceptable.
he's just perpetuating rape culture and objectification of women at that point. It would be extremely disappointing to me if that were the case, so I admit fully to hanging onto the narrative that there is a further point to this than just being an ignorant assbutt.
im surprised you actually got past episode 1, clearly anything remotely sexual means rape and pillage and mysogny even in that scene she was more focused on the point that senketsu was talking, not forcing her to wear him
I enjoy dark humor myself as well, and I will admit to being a bad person for chuckling at possibly racist or bigoted jokes, but I don't espouse those views nor even remotely support them in real life. I don't equate what people watch or consume as indicative of someone's actual thoughts and feelings. It's if they choose to act on such that determine if they're a bad person, not the things they associate with.
I don't run around calling people sexist or bigoted for liking things I find problematic, unless they parrot and support those notions.
you are doing this exactly saying that trigger is advocating rape culture, just because you didnt like them doing the uniform scene ???
I do have guilty pleasures I enjoy simply for the eye candy, and there's nothing "wrong" with Imaishi doing so if that's what the fanservice (as ridiculous as it is) ends up being.
so basically you're just trying to lie to yourself that they're not watching anime for what it -is-, aka fanservice; if you want social commentaries, go watch a commentary
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I'm actually really curious what they're going to do with Nonon. She's a total question mark at the moment, and she's designed a lot differently than the other female characters so far.
I kind of expect her to matrix dodge the whole fanservice thing, maybe even subvert it somehow.
I know, right? She's the only one who hasn't done anything yet, so you know when she does it's going to be cool or important.
overanalysing things you like take the fun out of them, right, why even :derp:
Do not agreed. Talking about stuff is like 95% of the fun. Over-analyzing isn't really that helpful, but at this point it's not clear what over-analysis even is. Personally I'd rather have possible over-analysis than no analysis, at any rate.
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it's not clear what over-analysis even is.
well in this case to me it would be TSO's walls of text :V
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i think you are referring to yourself?
Uncomfortable as in completely unwatchable. I'm willing to set aside the fanservice if there ends up being a deeper meaning to all of this, but I'm not going to fault people who can't even if there is a greater social commentary going on. I've watched a lot of things that could be described as "visceral" in several different ways because it was used to express a deeper idea than just gratuitousness.
im surprised you actually got past episode 1, clearly anything remotely sexual means rape and pillage and mysogny even in that scene she was more focused on the point that senketsu was talking, not forcing her to wear him
Ignoring the cute little dig, I actually didn't even notice how problematic the scene was until it was pointed out to me. The fanservice was a bit much but the whole concept of the scene didn't click until it was pointed out to me. Watch again the part where she clearly says get off of me and he continues to undress her anyways.
you are doing this exactly saying that trigger is advocating rape culture, just because you didnt like them doing the uniform scene ???
No I don't think they're actively condoning rape, but they are perpetuating it with how they're going about dealing with Senketsu and explaining the whole schtick behind it. A big concept in rape culture is that the victim has to forgive her attacker and that it's the victim's fault they're chosen for sexual advances. She was powerless against her "attacker" (Senketsu), despite her pleadings she was forcibly stripped and put into an extremely revealing outfit that made her very very uncomfortable and gave everyone around her the chance to see her naked body, and in the end she's basically told he was just trying to form a bond and to love him since he can't help it (forgive your attacker). Oh and that the explanation why it's so revealing is that her dad made it (nice, the pervert dad troupe in use even beyond the grave).
At no point did I say that Trigger was advocating rape culture, just that they'd be continuing to perpetuate it with such imagery, and that to some people it may be uncomfortable or unacceptable. Again I didn't even notice the allegory until it was explained to me, that's how pervasive and insidious some of these things are. Once it was pointed out it has pretty much soured what was rabid fangirlism (and defense of its over the top fanservice). I'm just hoping they have a point to this instead of just being ignorant about it.
so basically you're just trying to lie to yourself that they're not watching anime for what it -is-, aka fanservice; if you want social commentaries, go watch a commentary
Anime is not "just" mindless entertainment and fanservice, anime can definitely be social commentary, even if it doesn't necessarily set out to be intentionally. I'm hoping that it is intentional, is that such a big deal? I still enjoy the show for the shallower things, but I'm hoping that the things that really bother me are being used to make a point rather than just there to appease to slobbering neckbeards. I'm tired of women being used as nothing more than sex objects in nerd culture, and worse, anything putting women even remotely close to equal requiring copious amounts of skin in order to appeal to the shallower nerds. Sorry I'm pointing out the problematic aspects despite the good messages I feel like it's portraying. You can enjoy your boobfilled mindless action movie and I can sit here and see if there's a deeper commentary being put together. If me finding a deeper thread to the whole scene being painted ruins the fun for you then that's your problem not mine.
overanalysing things you like take the fun out of them, right, why even :derp:
well in this case to me it would be TSO's walls of text :V
Sorry I actually like to discuss things intellectually instead of going OOH BOOBS WOW all the time. Other people seemed to have no problems discussing deeper concepts in the show when I was flailing in fangirl mode over it but now that I've found a few problems it's like OMG JUST ENJOY IT FOR BEING STUPID TRASH. Maybe I can do both at the same time? I know might be a weird concept but people can enjoy things for entirely different reasons and at the same time! I still love the hell out of Ryuuko and Satsuki and their hate marriage but the deeper connotations of some of the stuff they're pushing is tempering that enthusiasm significantly.
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Either way if you like it, like it for whatever reason you want. I'm not going to deny I really like a lot of the show. The art style is outrageously fantastic, the music is still really good, and the characters themselves are great. It's just... really awkward to watch because of the more iffy things being done with the story and I'm not going to deny that either :S. And if your answer is "oh just turn your brain off and enjoy it" I was until a few other things were pointed out that really made me reevaluate my fawning over the show. I would like to have my initial assessment right, or even just remotely correct. If it's not then whatever, I don't consider it some deep deconstruction of magical girl anime and just consider it another dumb action flick but with girls in really awkward outfits and really creepy dudes in the background.
And if you don't like I'm going into :wikipedia: about it then just ignore my posts because I'm going to do it. I can enjoy things for being dumb and recognize them for being dumb as well as look for deeper meaning if present. And if the deeper meaning isn't there, I'm not going to force it. But I really feel like it's being hinted at, both overtly and covertly, and that's what I'm discussing when I talk about the messages I pull from the show.
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Other people seemed to have no problems discussing deeper concepts in the show when I was flailing in fangirl mode over it but now that I've found a few problems it's like OMG JUST ENJOY IT FOR BEING STUPID TRASH.
i thought JT was joking about the one-track mind thing but, nevermind
the earlier pages were all quite non-social justice powered (in fact the first half of page 1 is just reactions) mostly about character predictions and stuff, even then when Nietz talked about the subtle commentary it wasn't as strangling as :
"A lot of the fanservice is done intentionally to make fun of it. "/" I wonder if Trigger could have gotten their point across re: body positivity and embracing femininity and such without it. " you seem to like to state things like as if they're solid established facts which dont bring up much space for discussion. even /a/ with its constant bitching about the 3D has more discussion about the show than here lol
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Uhh no? I may have been overexhuberant with my praise at first and leaping to some conclusions but at no point did I assert that there's no room for discussion, or that my interpretation is the only one. Hell most of my reevaluation has occurred because it was pointed out I might be reading a lot further than what might be actually there.
And cut it with the sarcastic one liners and crossed out text. If you got a personal beef with me then give it to me instead of these snide remarks about "social justice powered" and other crap. Otherwise keep your commentary on the subject and not at me.
I latched onto this show completely out of the blue because I saw threads of a deep social commentary and deconstruction of some really dumb anime troupes. I'm mostly hanging around now because the art and music is still good, even if I jumped the gun and gave it far more credit than it deserved. I'm still gonna point out how fucking terrible some of the shit is because, well, it bothers me! To me, it doesn't have to be there unless there ends up being a deeper meaning to it, and at that point then the discussion turns towards more its effectiveness in getting the point across. As it stands now some of it is inexcusable to me, which sucks because I am very much a willing audience member that is being driven away, or at the very least, tempering her enthusiasm greatly because of it.
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I latched onto this show completely out of the blue because I saw threads of a deep social commentary and deconstruction of some really dumb anime troupes.
This is my whole point. You've gone looking for a specific message in this show because you view the entire world through the lens of far-left gender theory, and it leads you to go running up blind alleys and see patterns where they do not exist.
Have you ever heard of the book Expert Political Judgment (http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7959.html) by Philip E. Tetlock? It's an amazing book, and one that everyone should read. It's about a large study that was conducted over the course of 20 years to test the predictive accuracy and internal logical consistency of both laypeople and experts from a wide variety of backgrounds. Everyone scored pretty badly - overall, worse than even crude algorithms - and Tetlock didn't find much correlation between score and political stripe, or even score and expert status. However, he did find a major correlation between score and how much of a "fox" or a "hedgehog" you are, as defined by Isaiah Berlin in his famous essay. (http://www.design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Fox_Hedgehog.html) In Tetlock's study, hedgehogs scored dismally across the board, presumably because it's pretty difficult to see things in objective and non-ideological terms when you draw so much of your worldview from one central, unifying idea.
The reason why I bring this up is that, and I mean this with no personal disrespect, you yourself are one of the biggest hedgehogs I know: you have one big thing that you care an awful lot about and spend a lot of time pontificating on - you see small, ambiguous things as manifestations of a larger theory or struggle - you see the world in highly ideological terms - and you are very deeply ensconced in a well-established school of thought. You've made some extremely bold, ideologically-motivated judgments in this thread, and now, after they've barely even been called into question, you're starting to lose your spaghetti and get conspicuously backpedally and defensive, as usual.
Yes, the show could be sending a message about rape culture and body positivity or whatever. It could also be sending one about the oppressive conformity of Japanese society, a theme that has surfaced in Imaishi's previous works and makes a lot more empirical sense given his style and personal background. It could also be that, as I already mentioned, he just likes sexy women, as well as stylish action and slapstick comedy. It could be all or none of these things. Either way, your judgments aren't rational - they clearly have a lot more to do with you than with the show itself.
Basically, all I'm asking is for you to seriously examine how your own personal political outlook might be warping your impressions here. Not just of the possible subtext, but of the show in general, such as your implication that it's "stupid trash" if it turns out to not carry the message you hoped it did. Not everything revolves around gender politics.
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Bravo, good show. Wot
Now that we've got those observations out of the way, I think it's time for the deepest and most difficult aspect of the discussion yet to commence.
KLK DEBATE
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PURELY NSFW EDITION
CHOOSE YOUR SIDE (nsfw) (http://i.imgur.com/HOw2IVQ.jpg)
http://strawpoll.me/563819
PLOT (http://youtu.be/gk8_WpbvN84)
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This is my whole point. You've gone looking for a specific message in this show because you view the entire world through the lens of far-left gender theory, and it leads you to go running up blind alleys and see patterns where they do not exist.
Have you ever heard of the book Expert Political Judgment (http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7959.html) by Philip E. Tetlock? It's an amazing book, and one that everyone should read. It's about a large study that was conducted over the course of 20 years to test the predictive accuracy and internal logical consistency of both laypeople and experts from a wide variety of backgrounds. Everyone scored pretty badly - overall, worse than even crude algorithms - and Tetlock didn't find much correlation between score and political stripe, or even score and expert status. However, he did find a major correlation between score and how much of a "fox" or a "hedgehog" you are, as defined by Isaiah Berlin in his famous essay. (http://www.design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Fox_Hedgehog.html) In Tetlock's study, hedgehogs scored dismally across the board, presumably because it's pretty difficult to see things in objective and non-ideological terms when you draw so much of your worldview from one central, unifying idea.
The reason why I bring this up is that, and I mean this with no personal disrespect, you yourself are one of the biggest hedgehogs I know: you have one big thing that you care an awful lot about and spend a lot of time pontificating on - you see small, ambiguous things as manifestations of a larger theory or struggle - you see the world in highly ideological terms - and you are very deeply ensconced in a well-established school of thought. You've made some extremely bold, ideologically-motivated judgments in this thread, and now, after they've barely even been called into question, you're starting to lose your spaghetti and get conspicuously backpedally and defensive, as usual.
Yes, the show could be sending a message about rape culture and body positivity or whatever. It could also be sending one about the oppressive conformity of Japanese society, a theme that has surfaced in Imaishi's previous works and makes a lot more empirical sense given his style and personal background. It could also be that, as I already mentioned, he just likes sexy women, as well as stylish action and slapstick comedy. It could be all or none of these things. Either way, your judgments aren't rational - they clearly have a lot more to do with you than with the show itself.
Basically, all I'm asking is for you to seriously examine how your own personal political outlook might be warping your impressions here. Not just of the possible subtext, but of the show in general, such as your implication that it's "stupid trash" if it turns out to not carry the message you hoped it did. Not everything revolves around gender politics.
No you're right, it's a huge factor in my everyday life (both scholatically and in general) and it does very much affect my outlook. I appreciate the links (and the calm response!). I've just been worked up really hard and stressed in a bunch of other aspects and I kind of lost my patience and cool a bit and I do apologize for that.
As for the comment about "stupid trash", that I didn't really mean negatively. That was more of a poorly worded term of endearment. I used the term guilty pleasure to describe what I was talking about earlier, and I really should have stuck to that rather than change terms up, especially given how charged my arguments were getting.
I wasn't even looking for the message, and I didn't necessarily have it after my first viewing. I think the big thing that brought it out was trying to convince my friends to watch it with me. I had a complete fangirl moment and I just wanted others to join me in it. So in order to move beyond just "omg its just cool" I started critically analyzing it to try to appeal to people intellectually. This only continued as the episodes came out and still gave enough hints for me to latch onto.
The biggest reversal came when someone pointed out that I was probably reading way too far into it, and then people I respect on tumblr began critically analyzing it and pointing out the problematic parts. I couldn't prove them wrong, I agreed with their conclusions. Which put me into a hard situation. We couldn't both be right, unless there was an even deeper meaning at stake! Or if there wasn't one, then that just means I'm wrong, they're still right and then I definitely don't have any good reason to enjoy this myself :S
Basically I started feeling like I was being shamed by people who's opinions I respected into making a defensive argument for the show. I recognized this at least at a superficial level and I was trying to explain even if my original hypotheses were wrong, that there were still a lot of other things Kill la Kill is doing right. It was just that then what I began to see as the "problematic" parts, would still remain, and have little excuse to exist. I just very poorly expressed it due to a lot of frustration I'm feeling from other sources right now, along with a compulsion to find "deeper meaning" in everything thanks to my mindset I'm put into daily (thanks class!).
Thanks again for calmly talking and pointing it out though :S and sorry for any trouble I might have caused flailing about. :(
e: After reading the essay (which was fascinating, thanks) I really don't think I'm a hedgehog in the sense that I only care about one issue only, but that I have a tendency to get a bit obsessed and one track minded. By living my daily life being stuck having to be critically aware of gender, along with the pressures of being an activist for it, have driven me to being a hedgehog. I'll save that musing for my personal blargh though and quit derailing. I just wanted to point out that I did read it :b
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Damn people...you guys got all serious about the show, fanservice, and boobies.
This kind of thing isn't rare nowadays and it's meant to attract male viewers, with the other side of attracting female once, considering that the main character is a woman.
It is offensive in a way...yes, but it's probably a way to show a woman's pride, rather than being embarrassed about it. Thinking of it like how a man with a toned body strips his clothes off.
Anyways, if this were dangerous in any way, like promoting rape, I'm sure the dozens or even hundreds of animes and even mangas we've already watched should've made us into beasts by now. It's like how some parents describe video games that promote violence, which is clearly stupid. Sure it's bloody as hell, but they won't just run amok murdering everyone.
The thing is it's all in how people see it. Not all of us has the same mindset. You see it as promoting sex, some find if intriguing, some offended, some even fascinated, while others just see it as the plain same old same old fanservice that's been happening in almost every anime, like me!
If people give in to their sexual urges, masturbate for sexual gratification, rape, or have plain sex, then it's their own fault for having no control. Shows can't control you, even if they have those "subliminal messages" and whatnot. You're a fool for being fooled.
One thing can't actually just influence someone in an instant, it needs to be a set of things/events that will gradually make a person into that someone. If a person raped someone, I'm pretty sure it's not just some show is his reason for doing so.
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...And here I am still noticing that Ryuuko is Simon, and Aikuro is Kamina.
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...And here I am still noticing that Ryuuko is Simon, and Aikuro is Kamina.
How? Aikuro is hardly the burning-spirit warrior that Kamina was, and Ryuuko has been fighting since the beginning whereas Simon had to be goaded into it over time.
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Trigger Magazine e-letters uploaded onto danbooru (http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/7563) (yes danbooru warning) Some commentary with keyframes from the episodes. This caught my notice the most though:
How did everyone like the 3rd episode of KILL la KILL? 3rd episode and it's a climax already. Aren't we rushing it a little too much? Won't we burn out of ideas? You guys have nothing to worry about! We got a whole load of awesome left in our reservoir!
hypehypehypehype
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Anyways, if this were dangerous in any way, like promoting rape, I'm sure the dozens or even hundreds of animes and even mangas we've already watched should've made us into beasts by now. It's like how some parents describe video games that promote violence, which is clearly stupid. Sure it's bloody as hell, but they won't just run amok murdering everyone.
Sorry to be that guy, but I just want to make a slight clarification that "promotes rape culture" doesn't generally mean "turns people into rapists"; it means that the thing reflects or promotes the attitudes associated with an existing rape culture. But I haven't seen Kill La Kill yet so I can't comment on the subject one way or the other.
Personally, I think it's awesome and fun to "overthink" ostensibly mindless anime. Like don't even get me started on how Arakawa Under The Bridge is a clever and biting criticism of Japan's strict hierarchical socio-economic structure.
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I basically saw the Kamina likeness as soon as his glasses went off, haha
Definitely lots of shout-outs to previous gainax anime, esp Gurenn Lagann.
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How? Aikuro is hardly the burning-spirit warrior that Kamina was...
That we know of. If he doesn't fight somebody at some point while screaming with his shirt off I'm gonna be a little disappointed.
Also, what do you think the odds are that he's the main/a major villain? Dude's super suspicious. So my call of the show is that he's evil, and one of the other guys I've been consistently watching this with one of them has money on Uzu being secretly a good guy/eventual romantic interest.
Sorry to be that guy, but I just want to make a slight clarification that "promotes rape culture" doesn't generally mean "turns people into rapists"; it means that the thing reflects or promotes the attitudes associated with an existing rape culture. But I haven't seen Kill La Kill yet so I can't comment on the subject one way or the other.
Personally, I think it's awesome and fun to "overthink" ostensibly mindless anime. Like don't even get me started on how Arakawa Under The Bridge is a clever and biting criticism of Japan's strict hierarchical socio-economic structure.
I agree with all of your applicable words.
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Personally, I think it's awesome and fun to "overthink" ostensibly mindless anime. Like don't even get me started on how Arakawa Under The Bridge is a clever and biting criticism of Japan's strict hierarchical socio-economic structure.
I just want to drop in to say that Arakawa Under the Bridge is an absolutely brilliant anime. It has a good amount of both social criticism as well as mindless fun, combined into a perfectly blended mixture of clever and witty dialog.
More on topic: This show may have a little too much references for me to catch them all, but they're a nice touch during the times when I do recognize them. For those who might have missed it in episode 1, here's a diebuster reference (http://imgur.com/xb67ADC) that I thought was pretty cool.
also, satsuki's ass > ryuuko's boobs
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I just want to drop in to say that Arakawa Under the Bridge is an absolutely brilliant anime. It has a good amount of both social criticism as well as mindless fun, combined into a perfectly blended mixture of clever and witty dialog.
More on topic: This show may have a little too much references for me to catch them all, but they're a nice touch during the times when I do recognize them. For those who might have missed it in episode 1, here's a diebuster reference (http://imgur.com/xb67ADC) that I thought was pretty cool.
also, satsuki's ass > ryuuko's boobs
Aw man, I did miss that. Love Diebuster. That's super cool.
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How? Aikuro is hardly the burning-spirit warrior that Kamina was, and Ryuuko has been fighting since the beginning whereas Simon had to be goaded into it over time.
Not really personality-wise, but in appearance. I re-looked some photos of Kamina, and looked at Aikuro, they pretty much look similar. With the only noticeable differences are longer hair length, and a significantly muscular body tone. Put Kamina's glasses, and there, you got yourself a Kamina reference.
Ryuuko is like the gender and personality opposite of Simon. Wearing also the "seemingly" same colors as he does.
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Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?
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Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?
For me it's almost none. I probably haven't seen most of the series they reference. It definitely has a lot going on on a few levels, and that's among the least of them.
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Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?
Not much. The reasons people talk about the references and similarities is purely because those shows were great and this show is similarly great.
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Out of curiosity, how much of having seen the series they reference is a part of enjoying this?
Not at all, since it's referencing so many series at once, in story, style and tone. They end up referencing so many that some of the references (Kekko Kamen) fly under the radar for most viewers.
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Kekko Kamen
Hahaha yes I'm glad someone else picked up on this.
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Hahaha yes I'm glad someone else picked up on this.
I've been thinking it's a Go Nagai tribute more than a Gainax tribute since the beginning. I love Go Nagai and all, but that so many people miss out on those references make me worried for future anime generations.
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Always thought aikuro had more of a aizen parody with the taking off glasses = increase powerlevel
forgot where source was but apparently tomorrow's ep is comedy(obviously) cant remember bout 5 and 6 but 7 is about mako and 8 is new arc or something. hype
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watched a livestream of epi 4 without subs
BUDGET ALL WENT TO EPISODE 5, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL
NONONNNNNNNNNNN
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ITS 2 AM AND I HAVE TO GET UP IN 4.5 HOURS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH (http://puu.sh/4YoCD.jpg)
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So I have yet to see a statement about how many episodes there are supposed to be. Is this a known thing and I missed it? I'd be fine with 13 or 24 I guess.
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Omigosh I must've enjoyed this ep the most so far.
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lol, dafuq did I just watch... this episode 4 made me laugh hard at least three times. It was just so silly and absurd... seems like it was entirely focused on comedy factor, which contrasts Ep 3 that was more serious due to the battle of Ryuuko x Satsuki (but it still had some comedy as well).
That aside, I wonder if Satsuki's Kamui can talk like Senketsu. At least it hasn't said a word so far.
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Best low budget episode.
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Didn't expect filler so soon, but at least it was really amusing.
That aside, I wonder if Satsuki's Kamui can talk like Senketsu. At least it hasn't said a word so far.
It probably can, but presumably only Satsuki can hear it, if only Ryoko being able to hear Senketsu is any indication.
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meanwhile half of mako's family is dead
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This episode was solid gold
I fucking lost it at the blue danube part
(http://i.imgur.com/cWeyMUr.png)
Also 2lewd girl is my waifu
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can senketsu be a waifu/husbando even tho not human
pls
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can senketsu be a waifu/husbando even tho not human
pls
Yes yes yes by all means yes.
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You know, Ryuuko is the best fucking thing to come out of japan ever since Hakurei Reimu, but this show has a distinct lack of Nonon
I need me some more Nonon
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You know, Ryuuko is the best fucking thing to come out of japan ever since Hakurei Reimu, but this show has a distinct lack of Nonon
I need me some more Nonon
Nonon in the preview motherfucker awwww yeeeeah
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I honestly doubt it's much more complex than that, and I would be frankly amazed if they were actually trying to make some kind of nuanced commentary on gender politics.
Unless this really is trying to be Cutie Honey, which was a commentary on gender politics.
Thematically this looks to be Imaishi flat out trying to do a Go Nagai show, or maybe a deconstruction as per Gurren Laggan.
No way to tell until it progresses furthe;, either way it's probably going to be covering objectification and gender politics as a theme.
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or maybe a deconstruction as per Gurren Laggan.
TTGL isn't a deconstruction, it plays it so straight that it becomes a parody of itself.
A deconstruction is when you call attention to things that one would normally gloss over with suspension of disbelief.
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Just saw the fourth episode. That was... Amazing. Man, I'm still smiling. Great stuff.
And fuck waiting until Saturdays to watch this, I'm gonna pre-watch it. Apparently one of the other guys did, so putting it off isn't getting anyone anything at this point.
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TTGL isn't a deconstruction, it plays it so straight that it becomes a parody of itself.
A deconstruction is when you call attention to things that one would normally gloss over with suspension of disbelief.
It's like someone went through super robot tropes with a check list and dedicated one episode to each and then through them away for future episodes.
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So! Just watched the first four episodes back to back.
This is pretty fun, for the most part. I had some laughs, the hyperbolic animation really brings FLCL to mind, and I really liked how they tease a lot of common, overdone anime tropes to the point of ridiculousness.
The fan service, fortunately, doesn't seem to overpower the series, and it is clearly parodying fan service in general, so it's easy to gloss over most of it. There are times when they beat a dead horse about it, but you can't have it all, right? Still, wish they could've not used sleep-rape as a comedy device. Because just yuck.
With the first three episodes setting us up for some grand confrontation (and subsequently leaving us hanging for Ryuuko's battle royale with the entire student body), a light-hearted comedy fourth episode would've normally been a let-down. However, the fact that this episode was a desperate life-and-death race to get to school on time was pretty damn funny, so I look forward to seeing what happens next.
I wouldn't say this is the series that will save anime. The direction could use some tightening up, and the action is so hyperbolic that I feel like I need to lie down after 24 minutes of this. But it is highly entertaining and funny, warts and all.
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1765a35fadbb56f4b596a8664767dba7/tumblr_muwlbzSPTW1qe3o3oo1_500.png)
(http://ashwara.tumblr.com/post/64459131814/krill-la-krill)krill la krill
i've been laughing non-stop for minutes
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1765a35fadbb56f4b596a8664767dba7/tumblr_muwlbzSPTW1qe3o3oo1_500.png)
(http://ashwara.tumblr.com/post/64459131814/krill-la-krill)krill la krill
i've been laughing non-stop for minutes
Put it in a bikini for maximum hilarity imo
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"KLK is a powerful anime about the struggles women face as they mature, and it's also really funny and well-animated." (http://i.imgur.com/DpG1VIk.jpg)
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Every single time i see that collage of powerpoints, I feel this intense rage because it goes way over the point, like the writer doesnt even bloody know how being a(n average not overreacting ) girl feels like
Also why the hell is it spelt kamuY
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I do have to wonder why, if this is true, did they not choose any other way to convey this.
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Every single time i see that collage of powerpoints, I feel this intense rage because it goes way over the point, like the writer doesnt even bloody know how being a(n average not overreacting ) girl feels like
I honestly don't think the author's interpretation is wildly alien to reality. Could it be that different women have different experiences of growing up?
I do have to wonder why, if this is true, did they not choose any other way to convey this.
My guess is a military background - they do love their PowerPoint.
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My guess is a military background - they do love their PowerPoint.
I was talking about Trigger.
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I was talking about Trigger.
Who knows. Why did Van Gogh like those big, splashy paint strokes? Why did Jimmy Page like blues chord progressions? Why does Lorde choose to write a song targeting pop culture materialism? Stylistics and preferred means of conveyance, I reckon.
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I honestly don't think the author's interpretation is wildly alien to reality. Could it be that different women have different experiences of growing up?
My guess is a military background - they do love their PowerPoint.
the powerpoint thing is... just a tumblr thing (they make ppts for ironic reasons)
honestly i think it's really just a case of overreading into it, i mean, there's one bullet point "instead of being helpless sex objects to be used by men, the women of KLK are empowered despite etc" the KLK girls are already strong, its not like they went from damsels in distress to superheroes
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Even if it is "over-reading" - although how it's over-reading, I have no idea, as it really doesn't take much thought to arrive at this pretty obvious conclusion - is that bad? People are going to enjoy things in different ways. Even if it isn't the artist's intent to convey a particular message, the fact that people can examine a particular issue through the lens of art is, to my mind, a good thing.
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I honestly don't think the author's interpretation is wildly alien to reality. Could it be that different women have different experiences of growing up?
the reality that girls care about how they appear to others, more than the male gaze that the author seems to claim to automatically come in place when puberty takes its course?
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Yo I agree on the whole idea of artistic freedom and liberty of interpretation and everything but there's a somewhat defined line between liberal interpretation and shoving words into an author's mouth
Also any real-life elements that fit the idea of a "rape culture" are only worsened by the whole "omg rape culture" sentiment
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Yo I agree on the whole idea of artistic freedom and liberty of interpretation and everything but there's a somewhat defined line between liberal interpretation and shoving words into an author's mouth
I totally agree, but in practical terms I don't think it makes a difference at all. I mean unless the author here is scrolling through Tumblr reading what Western anime fans have to say about KLK.
Also any real-life elements that fit the idea of a "rape culture" are only worsened by the whole "omg rape culture" sentiment
That's an interesting claim. If I understand you right, you're saying that reacting at an "omg" level to rape culture ... worsens rape culture? I'd be curious to hear how that works.
the reality that girls care about how they appear to others, more than the male gaze that the author seems to claim to automatically come in place when puberty takes its course?
I don't understand this sentence.
Also, sorry if my responding to every response is annoying. People are saying interesting stuff, where I can understand it. Also, coffee.
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The entire show is a Go Nagai tribute and Go Nagai was a virgin who loved titties. Pretty straightforward imo.
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Yeah, I'm not even saying that this was the author's message (full disclosure: I do not think KLK is a statement about the male gaze). I don't think it's important what the author's message was, if anything beyond "wooo titties". If a person can enjoy a work of art, and see things that make them think about even tangentially related themes and issues, then no harm done. Hell, might even be a good way to talk about *~issues~* in a more interesting or fun way.
In short, people enjoy stuff in different ways.
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The entire show is a Go Nagai tribute and Go Nagai was a virgin who loved titties. Pretty straightforward imo.
Yeah pretty much
I appreciate that people are looking for deeper meaning, and maybe it does have deeper meaning, but...
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Even if it is "over-reading" - although how it's over-reading, I have no idea, as it really doesn't take much thought to arrive at this pretty obvious conclusion - is that bad? People are going to enjoy things in different ways. Even if it isn't the artist's intent to convey a particular message, the fact that people can examine a particular issue through the lens of art is, to my mind, a good thing.
Of course people can interpret things how they like. That goes without saying. It doesn't absolve them from criticism. I'll restate what I said on the Facebook page (which I'm guessing is where you saw that image): I'm pretty sure this person is just uncomfortable about the fact that they like a show full of fanservice, and they're making intellectual contortions in an effort to wipe away that discomfort.
To use a less politically charged example as an analogy: A prevailing interpretation of Hotline Miami is that it's some kind of commentary on violence in video games. The explanations behind this always pointed to a total of two things: a small and highly ambiguous bit of dialogue, and the simple fact that the game is full of extreme violence. A blind assumption was made that just because the violence was done in a stylish, tongue-in-cheek way, there had to be something deeper to it. While the interpretation was vague and all-encompassing enough to seem plausible, there was basically no evidence for it. So then why did people keep stating it as if it were obvious? Because they were made uncomfortable by the violence, which many people would view as gratuitous and tasteless, and were unconsciously trying to justify it to themselves and critics by painting it as something more than what it actually was.
This has the same feel to me. I mean, the person who made the image even specifically addresses it to people who are turned off from the show because of the fanservice. Why? Who cares what those people think? It's pure rationalization. I'm guessing it seems like an obvious and valid interpretation to you because a) you like the show, b) you dislike fanservice, and c) this interpretation happens to suit your politics. I think it's not obvious so much as convenient.
Also >kamuy
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That's an interesting claim. If I understand you right, you're saying that reacting at an "omg" level to rape culture ... worsens rape culture? I'd be curious to hear how that works.
I'm saying the value to everything is attributed by people, and the more you push an abstract morality idea, the more true it becomes. Nigger, for example, is just a word to mean "black person". There doesn't seem to be any need or purpose in perpetuating the idea that there's some sort of inherent negativity to this word, but the fact that a vocal group of people insist so hard on this is the sole reason the word has become unflexible and held onto its apparent negativity. You hear a hell lot more about how nigger is a bad word, than the actual word being used negatively.
There's similar patterns everywhere, even in the very perception of time (http://xkcd.com/1227/), and the idea of "rape culture" seems to me to go this way as well. The whole "rape culture" thing was created by two elements: actual rapists, and people seeing potential rape in fucking everything. I read something the other day that showed some data that said crime rates worldwide haven't really gone up, in fact it's gone down, and yet people are way the fuck more scared of being victims to crime than ever before. Same goes with rape, and "rape culture", and seeing and preaching that every portrayal of sexual elements ever is condoning rape and should be shunned and banned. Yesterday I had to hear a speech from a girl that tried to tell me how sexist and evil the porn industry is for featuring mostly women, and it took a bit of convincing to explain to her the basic supply-and-demand principle. An author can't write anything with a bare chest in it without a few dozen people screaming about the evilness of it. And nobody else would see anything like that if there wasn't those touchy people pointing it out. TSO has said it herself in this thread that she hadn't noticed a lot of the stuff until someone pointed it out.
So basically it just comes down to you see what you want to see. Let me point out to this interview and short footage of Dee Snider summing up my point brilliantly:
"Sadomasochism and bondage" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pvmyNnepTk)
fake e: my god JT fuck you fuck you so much the fuck did I write this all for you just make me look like a fool you dummy
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The whole "rape culture" thing was created by two elements: actual rapists, and people seeing potential rape in fucking everything.
Without going into other parts of this post, which maybe I'll get around to later, isn't this kind of a chicken/egg thing? Isn't there at least a chance that the reason the rapes that allegedly are the cause of rape culture were caused by rape culture?
And let me just say that, while I don't think anything well-informed can be said about what the show does or doesn't mean yet since it's not over and may not have even gotten started, but I don't think the analysis of it is much of a stretch. I understand the "people are just trying to justify liking something with problematic elements to themselves" angle, but I'm not convinced that applies here. I watched Diebuster again with some people Sunday night, and found the fanservice in that to be way creepier than in Kill La Kill, but didn't feel that there was much more to it than that or the need to try to explain it. It made me uncomfortable, I would rather it wasn't there, I don't think it added anything, but I'm willing to recognize it for what it is.
So what's different about Kill La Kill? There's a reason people are talking about the fanservice in this show more than in most other anime, and that's because it seems to be presenting itself, at least to some people, as being something more than just fanservice. Why else would it be sparking this much conversation than if people were legitimately seeing something worth talking about in it? What else is there that makes it different from the fanservice in any other show? I'm seriously wondering, if you can think of reasons I'd be interested in hearing them. This conversation is interesting regardless.
Also, just for context, I don't have a problem with sex. I usually find fanservice distasteful, but I like (some) porn, and I don't just mean super soft stuff either. My taste includes some stuff that some people, who I would consider to be overzealous and uninformed, would almost certainly consider to be "rape culture". That doesn't mean that I think that the idea of rape culture is totally alarmist and without any basis, and it also doesn't mean that I think that everything that people consider to be rape culture is that. This isn't just an "all sex is bad" or even an "all sexual content is pro-rape" thing.
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Of course people can interpret things how they like. That goes without saying. It doesn't absolve them from criticism. I'll restate what I said on the Facebook page (which I'm guessing is where you saw that image): I'm pretty sure this person is just uncomfortable about the fact that they like a show full of fanservice, and they're making intellectual contortions in an effort to wipe away that discomfort.
Respectfully, that's a pretty big assumption to make about someone's motivations. Maybe this is one of those "when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail" kinda things, or they're a hedgehog, mole or whatever, or they're a gender studies major who was bored with class one day.
And to clarify, when I said I found the interpretation "obvious", I did not mean that this was the message of KLK - as I said in this thread already, I do not think the author intended this message. What I mean by "obvious" is that it's the kind of interpretation that a person could easily make by taking a surface glance at the show, without having to engage in very complex mental acrobatics. Sorry for the open use of "obvious".
Essentially, I don't see the harm here. Like, if I watch Spongebob Squarepants and come to some conclusions about anarcho-syndicalism, I'm not hurting anyone, at all. No one's enjoyment of Spongebob is ruined by this, and maybe it'll make me think of anarcho-syndicalism in a whole new way, even if this is not at all the message of Spongebob.
I find the whole "stop enjoying things the wrong way" thing really weird.
We're going to have to agree to disagree here, because a) I think there's a lot of hyperbole in how you're depicting the positions of other people (and in fairness, I do recognize that you often do this for the purpose of effect, and do not necessarily literally mean every word you use) and b) I do not think that criticising stuff we find repugnant or even bothersome makes a problem worse, which I think is false. I think rather that open, honest criticism of things is good. Everyone should be able to take part in the discussion on different forms and expressions of art. It's how stuff changes, and I have yet to see any evidence that expressing criticism of a Thing makes that Thing worse than it already is.
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I find the whole "stop enjoying things the wrong way" thing really weird.
Yeah, agreed. Maybe I'm not reading things with the right tone or whatever, but there seems to be a lot of "nobody is allowed to discuss this thing in this fashion" going around (and I don't just/necessarily mean here). I don't really understand the thought behind that.
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I say that fully acknowledging JT's point that no one is absolved from criticism, by the way. I've just seen a lot of fan theories about previous series (Madoka, anyone?) that were met with amusement, laughter, intrigue and discussion, as well as criticism. Gender issues and KLK, though, just seems to be met with a rather monolithic response. I don't know why that is, and won't presume why. But that's how it looks to me.
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I think that the greatest hole in the talks about female empowerment being the message of this show is the fact that Ryuuko didn't actually choose to wear Senketsu; she was tricked into it by a (very creepy) man. Together with all the other creepy rape-y scenes, it's easy to see why many would think that the people seeing a deeper or more positive message in the anime are being naive or too hopeful or something.
Altough I agree with commander and Tengu; if this is the way people found to enjoy the anime, I don't see the problem in it, and until we get a definitive word from the creators stating the presence or lack of a greater message, it seems silly to say for certain "it's pure fanservice", too.
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My take on KLK is that it is fun, weird, hilarious, intentionally over-the-top, and is best not watched on a public bus. Trust me on that last one.
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My take on it right now is that it's a satire, and that basically everything in it is satirizing anime tropes. And that doesn't just include the sex, it extends to every single element of the show. It seems to be too carefully constructed of a comedy to be taken seriously on basically any level, and that's a compliment.
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My take on it is that if it doesn't end with galaxy destroying sword swings and other gloriously over-the-top absurdity of Gurren Lagan level or above, it'll be highly disappointing.
and something between Tengu and commander's take, too.
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Without going into other parts of this post, which maybe I'll get around to later, isn't this kind of a chicken/egg thing?
Read the rest of my post and you'll see that you should have in the first place.
I find the whole "stop enjoying things the wrong way" thing really weird.
I... really don't think we're doing that. Neither side, actually.
What I did say/imply/don'trememberanymore is the people who aren't enjoying certain things due to this alarmist sense that I really detest, well, should probably try. More fun that way and all
(and in fairness, I do recognize that you often do this for the purpose of effect, and do not necessarily literally mean every word you use)
Yeah, I use hyperbole as a means of conveyance every now and then, you know that. Sometimes I fuck that up, but hey, it's fun :derp:
As for the rest of your post, not at any moment have I said anyone should not be allowed to express views and opinions, much on the contrary I'm trying to address a sentiment that's often used as fuel for censorship and outrage(see the end of my previous post), as I'm pretty adamant on the idea that everyone should be free to say whatever the hell they want, be that flowers and love or 19th century racism.
My take on KLK is that it is fun, weird, hilarious, intentionally over-the-top, and is best not watched on a public bus. Trust me on that last one.
Ayup, and hot in more than one way. Also, you should probably drop that habit :derp:
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I watched an episode during one of my lectures
And it was a lecture on sexualisation of females in media :V
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Read the rest of my post and you'll see that you should have in the first place.
Humor me. I did read your post, pretty carefully. I just went back and read it again, and you're gonna have to spell out for me what exactly it is that you said that I failed to acknowledge, because I don't see it. Unless it's in your link, which I can't watch now because I'm in class, but will later.
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My take on it right now is that it's a satire, and that basically everything in it is satirizing anime tropes.
I basically have the opposite opinion. I don't really feel like the show is satirizing most of anything. I think most of it are just good-ol'-fashion hot-blooded action and fun.
Like, if I watch Spongebob Squarepants and come to some conclusions about anarcho-syndicalism
brb digging out my spongebob dvds
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So what's different about Kill La Kill? There's a reason people are talking about the fanservice in this show more than in most other anime, and that's because it seems to be presenting itself, at least to some people, as being something more than just fanservice. Why else would it be sparking this much conversation than if people were legitimately seeing something worth talking about in it? What else is there that makes it different from the fanservice in any other show? I'm seriously wondering, if you can think of reasons I'd be interested in hearing them.
There's a lot of "conversation" about how Obama's a buttloving Muslim from the dark heart of Africa, but that sure doesn't mean anything. As for what makes this show different:
1) It's popular
2) The unique, heavily stylized aesthetic lends it an artsy-fartsy ambiguity that attracts a lot of conjecture about what it all really means. e.g. Fight Club, House of Leaves, FLCL, or, like I already said, Hotline Miami
Respectfully, that's a pretty big assumption to make about someone's motivations.
OK, I acknowledge that I'm being a little presumptuous with that. But I'm not reaching far. Let me also restate again that people can interpret and enjoy pop culture however they want; nobody is saying they can't. But if we did have a Spongebob thread and people started coming in and posting elaborate, totally serious theories about how it really is all about anarcho-syndicalism, it'd probably raise a few eyebrows.
I say that fully acknowledging JT's point that no one is absolved from criticism, by the way. I've just seen a lot of fan theories about previous series (Madoka, anyone?) that were met with amusement, laughter, intrigue and discussion, as well as criticism. Gender issues and KLK, though, just seems to be met with a rather monolithic response. I don't know why that is, and won't presume why. But that's how it looks to me.
Oh, come on man. I knew it was only a matter of time until someone whipped out the old "people who argue with me are sexist" card. We've had a variety of opinions expressed in this thread, and nothing I've said is unreasonable. Don't be unfair.
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Humor me.
No, you literally acknowledged to be singling out the sentence that opens my point, which is elaborated on and explained in the rest of the post. When you asked me to elaborate on the sentence I'd already followed with an elaboration, I could do no more than point to it. Others seem to have understood it, and it's the same idea JT presented a split second before, so really there's no point in rephrasing it a third time. Now enough with this meta-debate
I basically have the opposite opinion. I don't really feel like the show is satirizing most of anything. I think most of it are just good-ol'-fashion hot-blooded action and fun.
I think it's a bit of both, and either is lovely, really
e: 'singling out the single' huuurp
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There's a lot of "conversation" about how Obama's a buttloving Muslim from the dark heart of Africa, but that sure doesn't mean anything.
Is there? There are people loudly making that claim, but who's conversing? I don't even necessarily subscribe to the theory in question here, but I think there's enough there to talk about.
As for what makes this show different:
1) It's popular
2) The unique, heavily stylized aesthetic lends it an artsy-fartsy ambiguity that attracts a lot of conjecture about what it all really means. e.g. Fight Club, House of Leaves, FLCL, or, like I already said, Hotline Miami
That's totally fair. I would say that all of those things are worth discussing, but you certainly are right about that.
No, you literally acknowledged to be singling out the single sentence that opens my point, which is elaborated on and explained in the rest of the post. When you asked me to elaborate on the sentence I'd already followed with an elaboration, I could do no more than point to it. Others seem to have understood it, and it's the same idea JT presented a split second before, so really there's no point in rephrasing it a third time. Now enough with this meta-debate
I'm sorry, I honestly seriously don't follow you. Not directly to the question I asked, anyway. Either I'm doing a bad job of making myself clear or I'm missing something. Doesn't matter, that's that I guess.
I think it's a bit of both, and either is lovely, really
Yeah, certainly. If it is true that this is in fact satire I don't know that you can make a satire of this kind without a sort of genuine-ness, and I don't know that it's possible to make a genre piece this extreme without playing with tropes in a satire-ish sort of way. And yeah, that creates a very interesting result regardless.
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I am enjoying this discussion greatly, and really need to respond to this:
Oh, come on man. I knew it was only a matter of time until someone whipped out the old "people who argue with me are sexist" card. We've had a variety of opinions expressed in this thread, and nothing I've said is unreasonable. Don't be unfair.
Wow, let me try and patch things up here. I am not at all calling you, or anyone else, sexist. As I said, I will not presume why this one fan interpretation - which, I think, doesn't take a lot of wild leaps of logic to arrive at - is met with a relatively monolithic response. For example, it could be that a lot of anime fans use Tumblr, and Tumblr, as we know, sure loves to talktalktalktalktalktalk about gender to the point of saturation, and so someone using phrases like "male gaze" and "empowerment" in an anime fan theory brings on this reaction. I don't think it's necessarily sexist, in other words. There could be all kinds of reasons.
You are one of the most thoughtful and least knee-jerky people I know. You listen and consider other points of view, while your own opinions are based on something more than passing whims. You are one of the last people I would ever call sexist. FWIW.
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Disclaimer: I have not watched a single second of this show.
I suspect the reason there is such a clash over the "purpose" or "message" or whatever of this show is because two of the most obvious interpretations of/reasons to watch the show kinda run perpendicular to each other. One is that the show seeks to empower women and make a mockery of the male gaze and whatnot, while the other is that the show is zany fun and has a lot of nice titties. If you're watching the show because you like zany fun and nice titties, the interpretation that the show is about striking down the lustful patriarchy is an indirect implication that you're part of the social problem the show is commenting on. And even if you aren't watching for the fanservice, if you see the fanservice as anything other than the social commentary, a stern, disapproving gaze is being cast your way. So, regardless of how much stock you would put in the social-commentary interpretation in a vacuum, there's suddenly a need to decry it, because it is an affront to your enjoyment of the show. And then people that hold the social-commentary interpretation see other people decrying that interpretation and get a need to further validate it, and the result is a death spiral of confused polite disagreement.
People of all interpretation can try to tell everyone not to let someone else's fun-having ruin their fun, but in a case like this, with two fun-havings so diametrically opposed, it's going to happen, even if just on a subconscious, unintentional level.
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Disclaimer: I have not watched a single second of this show.
i think you should really watch and then come back
personally its not a black vs white but rather a bunch of gray i dont see the point of one side baiting the other that they only watch for the fanservice and imply they're " an indirect implication that you're part of the social problem the show is commenting on" its like shipping, in a sense.
like duh you can clearly see the morals besides the fanservice but what i dont get are the people trying to shoehorn that the social commentary is female-exclusive/"striking down the lustful patriarchy " etcetc
imagine someone screaming OTP OTP every bloody episode in your face and you cant have any proper discussion
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like duh you can clearly see the morals besides the fanservice but what i dont get are the people trying to shoehorn that the social commentary is female-exclusive/"striking down the lustful patriarchy " etcetc
And I don't get why it matters so hard that other people choose to use someone else's art to see a particular issue or set of issues differently than other people see it, nor do I get this hyperbolic mischaracterization.
I mean, are we going to talk about this or shout past each other? I remember when talking about anime was fun.
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i dont see the point of one side baiting the other
Well, part of the point is that they're not baiting each other. I think that most people that hold the social-commentary interpretation aren't doing it to shame those who like show for other reasons. It's just happening naturally as a result of exactly what the two different sources of enjoyment are.
And I don't get why it matters so hard that other people choose to use someone else's art to see a particular issue or set of issues differently than other people see it, nor do I get this hyperbolic mischaracterization.
I think there's a long tangential discussion to be had about this - which would be, amusingly enough given the subject from which is spawned, something of a coming-of-age story - but the gist of it I think is that the current generation is still feeling out the process of identifying and, as necessary, modifying social norms. This generation has seen a number of social "things" (for lack of a better term) come to light/fruition over the past decade or so, largely (but certainly not entirely) revolving around gender and sexuality, things that even just fifty years ago were likely incomprehensible for one reason or another. Things that, even today, are hard to fathom for those that do not live them. So people want to find more of these things, to see what other previously-assumed-to-be-"facts" don't necessarily hold up under scrutiny, but they either don't know how to look or get hyper-excited for it, and they end up finding things that may not be really there.
To those on the hunt, scoffing at the idea that KlK is anti-patriarchy social commentary could be the equivalent of scoffing at the idea that women have the right to vote, or it could be the equivalent of scoffing at the idea that aliens landed in Nevada. Both wildly outlandish social ideas at various points in time, but one is still clearly outlandish while the other is very clearly true. How did those eras separate truth from fiction? Who knows? That's what this generation's working toward, just with their own era's social questions.
Or maybe some people may be looking for social commentary in their cartoons so, in the event their ideas are confirmed by the people that wrote the cartoons, they can go "first". That would certainly fit the current generation as well.
EDIT: This made a lot more sense in my head. Hopefully it's not too insane in written form.
EDIT 2: I just realized that's not even what you asked! Silly me. Refer to my response to Vento in the context of my previous post, I guess.
EDIT 3: I guess the tl;dr way of putting is that the existence of the social-commentary interpretation, the fact that it is at all, is more or less an attack on the people that watch the show for "shallower" reasons. It's not the people holding the interpretation (and they certainly shouldn't be accused of shaming, bad faith, or anything else along those lines just for holding the interpretation), it's the interpretation itself.
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It makes perfect sense, Kilga
Also go watch Kill la Kill, it's fucking amazing
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I have a list of things I need to watch that's a mile long, and this show is on it. But #1 on that list right now is Princess Jellyfish due to a promise to a friend, so KlK will have to wait a while.
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I remember when talking about anime was fun.
(http://i.imgur.com/qYHzOn4.jpg)
I've refrained from commenting for a while because, even though I've been watching since episode 1, a lot of this stuff is just a mess of :wikipedia: to me. I took a little time to figure out what I think on my own though.
I think there is some valid commentary on fanservice and "male gaze" or what have you, but only because of it being used in anime all the damn time. Stuff like this is on the same level of parody as Mako's long-winded friendship explanation and how the fourth episode was, to me, just a really long mockery of the "schoolgirl late for school" cliche. Maybe it's just that I'm not very good at looking for stuff beyond the surface.
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Disclaimer: I have not watched a single second of this show.
I suspect the reason there is such a clash over the "purpose" or "message" or whatever of this show is because two of the most obvious interpretations of/reasons to watch the show kinda run perpendicular to each other. One is that the show seeks to empower women and make a mockery of the male gaze and whatnot, while the other is that the show is zany fun and has a lot of nice titties. If you're watching the show because you like zany fun and nice titties, the interpretation that the show is about striking down the lustful patriarchy is an indirect implication that you're part of the social problem the show is commenting on. And even if you aren't watching for the fanservice, if you see the fanservice as anything other than the social commentary, a stern, disapproving gaze is being cast your way. So, regardless of how much stock you would put in the social-commentary interpretation in a vacuum, there's suddenly a need to decry it, because it is an affront to your enjoyment of the show. And then people that hold the social-commentary interpretation see other people decrying that interpretation and get a need to further validate it, and the result is a death spiral of confused polite disagreement.
People of all interpretation can try to tell everyone not to let someone else's fun-having ruin their fun, but in a case like this, with two fun-havings so diametrically opposed, it's going to happen, even if just on a subconscious, unintentional level.
And that's really my point I pretty much failed at. People who like it just for the "fluff" and visuals and stuff are not evil sexist pigs, nor is someone like me trying to convey a deeper social commentary "ruining the fun" for everyone else. You can like for any reason, or no reason at all. Not everything has to be liked because it has some deeper pretentious meaning. I think that's a problem a lot of people face is they feel like in order to enjoy something there has to be something deeper. You can like something for just being dumb silly fun. I loved Pacific Rim, and I wasn't expecting anything more than giant robots punching each other.
I found deeper meaning in KLK because the theme being presented resonated with a lot of personal struggles I'm dealing with, and it has a main character I can directly identify with. I kind of flailed about it because I was hoping I wasn't the only one getting those vibes. Whether that was actually intentionally there, or just a nice coincidence, does it really matter? I'm not offended if people like it just because it has boobs and loud noises, or if I'm the only one who finds it socially significant to themselves. It just kind of felt like I was shaming people for liking it for the "wrong" reasons because well, there are two big camps that are kind of ideologically opposed. I personally find no offense if someone only likes it for the fluff stuff, you do not have to be some pretentious jerk who only watches "thought provoking" things. I loved it for both reasons, and my only issue was if they really meant the deeper parts, if it really needed to be over the top. If the case is that the latter was just a happy coincidence then whatever :V
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Wow, let me try and patch things up here. I am not at all calling you, or anyone else, sexist. As I said, I will not presume why this one fan interpretation - which, I think, doesn't take a lot of wild leaps of logic to arrive at - is met with a relatively monolithic response. For example, it could be that a lot of anime fans use Tumblr, and Tumblr, as we know, sure loves to talktalktalktalktalktalk about gender to the point of saturation, and so someone using phrases like "male gaze" and "empowerment" in an anime fan theory brings on this reaction. I don't think it's necessarily sexist, in other words. There could be all kinds of reasons.
You are one of the most thoughtful and least knee-jerky people I know. You listen and consider other points of view, while your own opinions are based on something more than passing whims. You are one of the last people I would ever call sexist. FWIW.
Ah, okay. This clears things up a lot. Sorry for misreading you. I've seen this type of disagreement play out countless times on Tumblr - not just over KLK, but in general - and sure as the sun rises, it always devolves into people endlessly yelling "SEXIST!" "NOT SEXIST!" at each other. Usually very quickly. So maybe that's made my trigger finger a bit itchy when it comes to stuff like this.
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I don't like how disagreeing with someone's opinion invariably gets one labeled as an "ist" of some kind by someone. It's possible to differ peacefully without thinking of that person as subhuman. It's intellectual dishonesty to reach for the personal attack and trying to shame someone for not being in lock step with them.
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And I don't get why it matters so hard that other people choose to use someone else's art to see a particular issue or set of issues differently than other people see it, nor do I get this hyperbolic mischaracterization.
^THIS
I don't get it either. If I have learn one thing in life, is that in the world of entertainment and art, is to never over analyze them. It's good to think, but not over analyze it.
It's good to have a sense of escapism or realism when it comes to entertainment. People who do that understand more about life(Philosophical, Social, Art, etc). As it needs an expression, which makes those people stand out among other people.
You can think about what you're watching. You don't have to write about it, make a video about it, nor even talk to people about it. It's just that not all people accept everything at face value, as if people does that it's pretty easy to get brainwashed(this happens, mostly in the popular music industry).
Social Media, of course we should be serious about it, as we need understanding. People can think, but let's not over analyze for what they truly are, which is entertainment.
I remember when talking about anime was fun.
(http://i.imgur.com/b5FudHH.jpg)
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my trigger finger
Oh goddammit
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know what? all this TLDR going on? I am just fucking watching it because it is silly in every way possible.
I wouldn't at all mind the fact the girls' roles are completely basically gender flipped. Like Free! last season except genderbended.
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^THIS
I don't get it either. If I have learn one thing in life, is that in the world of entertainment and art, is to never over analyze them. It's good to think, but not over analyze it.
It's good to have a sense of escapism or realism when it comes to entertainment. People who do that understand more about life(Philosophical, Social, Art, etc). As it needs an expression, which makes those people stand out among other people.
You can think about what you're watching. You don't have to write about it, make a video about it, nor even talk to people about it. It's just that not all people accept everything at face value, as if people does that it's pretty easy to get brainwashed(this happens, mostly in the popular music industry).
Social Media, of course we should be serious about it, as we need understanding. People can think, but let's not over analyze for what they truly are, which is entertainment.
I'm not sure if I'm entirely reading your point correctly, but the issue to me isn't critical analysis. It's more the people who feel like they can only enjoy media that has "deeper" qualities and look down on people who don't seem to "appreciate" it properly. Basically hating people for not liking something the right way or for the right reasons.
My mental wank is simply that, I like deconstructing the world around me and finding all the connections and such and to make observations and discoveries based on such. I hyperanalyze everything, and I enjoy it! I have so much fun building headcanons and researching the backstories behind stuff that may have intentionally or unintentionally affected a work. But I don't beat up on people who don't obsess over the fine details like I do.
You're right, this is entertainment, and people enjoy things for different reasons. It's best not to dump on people for liking things for different reasons than others, and to let people have their fun and share in it together. And I'm saying this for every reason. People shouldn't be looked down upon for liking things for "simple" or "shallow" reasons, and people who enjoy it for technical or social commentary shouldn't be seen as buzzkills.
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Sooooo......... I just finished watchin' the 5th episode.
It was pretty enjoyable overall, and this one was much better than the previous ep. More stuff seems to have happened, and I can see that Tsumugu Kinagasa guy will probably be an important character in the series later on.
Also, Nonon. <3
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Nonononononononononononononon~~ <3
This was a truly great episode
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By the way... Wikipedia classifies the series' Demographic as "Seinen", but it looks and feels more like a Shounen to me. Is it really a Seinen?
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Similar hair colors and that mysteriously familiar lady in the flashback totally aren't indicative of anything.
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Similar hair colors and that mysteriously familiar lady in the flashback totally aren't indicative of anything.
I'm pretty sure they're brother and sister and the woman mentioned will turn out to be their mother, who failed to withstand the power of the kamui. Or something like that.
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I'm pretty sure they're brother and sister and the woman mentioned will turn out to be their mother, who failed to withstand the power of the kamui. Or something like that.
If they were brother and sister, they'd share the same surname. Not a different one.
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If they were brother and sister, they'd share the same surname. Not a different one.
Pseudonym, changed his name, etc.
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If they were brother and sister, they'd share the same surname. Not a different one.
What Amra said, ya dummy
Also (http://pastebin.com/ub6rUSS1)
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dummy
I don't remember giving you enough confidence to call me a "dummy", for me this is an insult.
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Chill your oversensitive head yo, I don't mean anything by it
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Notice the lack of 'DONT LOSE YOUR WAAAY'?
I guess Ryuko..........
lost her way
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Notice the lack of 'DONT LOSE YOUR WAAAY'?
I guess Ryuko..........
lost her way
NO
instrumental ver played during biology club fight and some toher version played at the end when they were on the chair
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I pretty much slept through this episode.
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I pretty much slept through this episode.
I hope this is a good thing. For your sake.
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after 4 episodes, tempted to drop it, not sure if enjoying at all considering all the stuff I heard about it.
I much rather watching Tokyo Ravens, Valrape 2, Gallilei Donna, and well Noukome.
This is quite underwhelming, the fact it reminds me of cartoons doesn't sit well with me either.
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kill la kill power level tiers
holy tier
mako
mortal tier
everyone else
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Every next episode needs moar Pink Head.
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JIKAI SANAGEYAMA UZU
kill la kill power level tiers
holy tier
mako
mortal tier
everyone else
kill a tier
ryuko
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kill a tier
ryuko
well if you pretend you pronounce tier like tire you get kill attire and yes
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the fact it reminds me of cartoons doesn't sit well with me either.
I'll take that as you didn't enjoy Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt neither.
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As a matter of fact, I did not, not the show, but the cosplays of it was really good.
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plztrollme.gif
I agree with him though.
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By the way, I think Ryuuko is being a bit too overpower. I mean, she already fought on equal footing with Satsuki really early on the series, and wiped out the whole Biology club with a single strike on the last episode. Not to mention Senketsu absorbs a "red strand" each time she destroys a Goku Uniform, which apparently makes her stronger. At this rate, bringing down the whole Honnouji Academy will be merely a matter of time.
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You kidding me? She was completely destroyed by Kinagase is the last episode. She didn't manage to land one good hit on him! And she certainly didn't fight on equal footing with Satsuki; in the end of their duel, she was the one on her knees, while Satsuki wasn't even out of breath. She may be able to defeat 2 star users easily, but since they seem to be just slightly more unique cannon fodder now, that barely seems to matter.
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I agree with him though.
Seconded.
Also, PS&G was beyond stupid, and I don't know why it's being compared to KLK. The slapstick?
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Pretty sure she was just referring to the western style resemblance
e: also yeah, Ryuuko hasn't yet put up a fight against Satsuki, and pretty much got her ass handed to her by Badass-kun.
Her limitations are a large plot device at this point.
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Ryuuko's punching at her own weight, I'd say. The opponents she does flatten are on par with her ability, and yes, she does get stomped a lot. I think they've given her an interesting balance when it comes to fighting.
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I think the whole point of Kill La Kill was to be stylized as a Cartoon. I mean, animes these days try themselves to become realistic...I mean not realistic real, but rather something that doesn't defy much of the natural laws of the world(Eg. Physics)
KLK is not like that, which is why it's entertaining. Plus I love Trigger also.
Pretty sure she was just referring to the western style resemblance
e: also yeah, Ryuuko hasn't yet put up a fight against Satsuki, and pretty much got her ass handed to her by Badass-kun.
Her limitations are a large plot device at this point.
Limitations being her brain.
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Finally got around to the new episode, every episode so far has been my favorite. This is a very good thing.
By the way, I think Ryuuko is being a bit too overpower. I mean, she already fought on equal footing with Satsuki really early on the series, and wiped out the whole Biology club with a single strike on the last episode. Not to mention Senketsu absorbs a "red strand" each time she destroys a Goku Uniform, which apparently makes her stronger. At this rate, bringing down the whole Honnouji Academy will be merely a matter of time.
I don't know, she seems to get her ass handed to her quite a lot. As far as I remember we haven't really been given any reason to believe that Satsuki is that powerful, have we (aside from "She's the leader so she should be for plot reasons")? She has the same equipment as Ryuuko, more or less, but we don't have any proof that she knows how to fight, while Ryuuko obviously does. She's got a special sword, but so does Ryuuko. Being on equal/slightly lesser footing with her sounds fair.
Also, being able to bring down the whole Academy soon doesn't seem like it would be a bad thing. At this point I'm willing to believe that the plot is going somewhere with this, so if she does, great. I assume something else will happen.
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Limitations being her brain.
That needs a tad more elaboration yo
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Given that the godrobes have destroyed their wearers in the past leading to immense distrust of using them, and Kinagase being convinced that Senketsu will basically become a monster with continued use, and that Satsuki is constantly driving to command and control everything by sheer force of will, including Junketsu, I find the plot is very likely to progress down this implied path.
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http://i.imgur.com/XdlPAnz.jpg
[02:39:13] axman36: Mako is, at least in my opinion, the embodiment of the Little Witch Academia art style.
[02:39:31] axman36: Combine with what witches use to fllllyyyyyy
[02:39:40] Hakurei Reimu: whoa
Mako is a witch
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That needs a tad more elaboration yo
Needs to use her brain more.
Then again...Less think, more fight.http://i.imgur.com/XdlPAnz.jpg
Mako is a witch
That explains how she survived school before Ryuuko became her friend.
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Best cosplay ever? Best cosplay ever. (nsfw) (http://infernalnasuspup.tumblr.com/post/66192009229)
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That was fast (and really well done :O)
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The Nonon love was predicted with 100% accuracy. (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1540881)
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Yes <3
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hey so uhm EPISODE 6 LEAK THX BASED AUSSIES
teenage mutant ninja sanageyama uzu
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hey so uhm EPISODE 6 LEAK THX BASED AUSSIES
Ya welcome mate. :V
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NUDIST BEEEEEEEAAACCHHHHHHHHH
eventually she's gonna turn into a ttgl mecha :derp:
well that was fast
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Men! Dou! Kote! Men! Dou! Kote! Men! Dou! Kote! MEN! DOU! KOTE! MEN! DOU! KOTE! MEN! DOU! KOTE! MEN!
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NUDIST BEEEEEEEAAACCHHHHHHHHH
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I thought that the action was pretty lackluster in this ep... but the Mecha uniform was pretty cool. I'm very curious about Satsuki's mother, too. Is she queen of the world or something, that dome thing was fricking huge
Also, young Satsuki continues to be the most adorable thing in this anime universe ugggh
Also,
NUDIST BEEEEEEEAAACCHHHHHHHHH
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Man, if Satsuki doesn't stop being mean to her
Pokemon Kamui Red is totally gonna beat her with the power of love and friendship. She's even got an Elite Four and everything.
When is that butler gonna do something? He has super powers, I know he does. :derp:
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Nudist Beach cosplay next con, can't stop me won't stop me.
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Jesus christ, Sanageyama is fucking metal. So much for the devas being pushovers.
I'm starting to think the real reason Ryuko was fighting on equal terms with Satsuki is because she actually has really shitty control over Junketsu.
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Well she did at least beat him once
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I would agree he is rather metal now.
(http://i.imgur.com/KA3w7Ft.gif)
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but is she implying it's shrinking or expanding
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but is she implying it's shrinking or expanding
looks more like she's implying it's sma-
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I'm starting to think the real reason Ryuko was fighting on equal terms with Satsuki is because she actually has really shitty control over Junketsu.
Well, it was her first time using Junketsu, and as we saw now, she and it clearly don't have the same relationship as Ryouko and Senketsu.
She'll end up being deposed by her own troops because of that, I think.
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I'm thinking on how to beat Sanageyama
involves abusing his heightened senses
. Or using it against him. Remember in the end when he said "he was too sensitive to drink tea"?
If atleast the anime retains a few natural laws of the universe, in concerning the human body. Sensory Overload (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_overload) will apply.
He should've just blindfolded himself and practice to heighten his other senses than forcing himself to have his eyes shut
. Every sense is important as one cannot do what another can; vice-versa.
Then again, I guess this is how "MEN" roll.
Btw, his VA is Viral's from TTGL. Everything makes sense on how his character works now...
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Well, it was her first time using Junketsu, and as we saw now, she and it clearly don't have the same relationship as Ryouko and Senketsu.
She'll end up being deposed by her own troops because of that, I think.
I want to mention something here. Keeping in mind the flashback Kinagase brought up where he mentioned the Kamui that attacked its user, and that Kiryuin mentioned how tiring using her Kamui is
, plus that Ryouko and Senketsu co operate and rely on each other, where Junketsu seems to be entirely malicious, and I think we may have a certain plot development coming along
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By the way, I noticed from the opening that there's a Swimming club and a Football club captain. The other ones I can't really tell, though.
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next episode looks to be the origami club captain
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KlK fighting game by Arc System Works, yay or nay?
Playable Characters:
Ryuko Matoi
Mako Mankanshoku (joke character)
Tsumugu Kinagase
Ira Gamagoori
Uzu Sanageyama
Houka Inumuta
Nonon Jakuzure
Satsuki Kiryuin (last boss/unlockable)
(and maybe some 2 stars captains too, like Fukuroda and Hakodate)
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I like to imagine Mako more of a horrifically broken banned-from-tournaments character like Archetype Earth rather than a joke like Neco Arc
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I like to imagine Mako more of a horrifically broken banned-from-tournaments character like Archetype Earth rather than a joke like Neco Arc
and this totally got more plausible now considering her ep. 8's abilities. Even with only a 2 stars uniform she seemed to be pretty damn powerful.
Awesome episode, but the way we go so quickly through 2 star people makes me somewhat sad. Some of those uniforms seemed to have some pretty cool abilities.
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I'm pretty sure they're brother and sister and the woman mentioned will turn out to be their mother, who failed to withstand the power of the kamui. Or something like that.
>this episode: mom died when i was young...
omg mako feeding ryuko hngggg
OMG MAKO WITH GLASSES HNNNGGGGGGGGAFasfaFASEFEDFESADF
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By the way, I noticed from the opening that there's a Swimming club and a Football club captain. The other ones I can't really tell, though.
I swear if we saw of those two clubs was episode 7 I'm going to be really disappointed. Unless that wasn't the REAL swim club, because I want a REAL swim club episode.
And American Football would be cool as well. My thinking is that Satsuki mentioned how not all of the clubs deserved their Two-Star Uniforms, and swim clubs seem like a more popular club than American Football. But at the same time American Football seems like it'd be entertaining as well.
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omg this fucking episode
>next episode preview
WHAT
man i just love this show
and this totally got more plausible now considering her ep. 8's abilities. Even with only a 2 stars uniform she seemed to be pretty damn powerful.
Awesome episode, but the way we go so quickly through 2 star people makes me somewhat sad. Some of those uniforms seemed to have some pretty cool abilities.
i checked the op again and it looks like all the 2 stars that appeared there are already done, and with what Satsuki said at the end of the episode, this might be the last we will see of them. Not to mention the fact that it would mean the final 2 star uniform Ryuko would have destroyed is Mako's
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I swear if we saw of those two clubs was episode 7 I'm going to be really disappointed. Unless that wasn't the REAL swim club, because I want a REAL swim club episode.
I'm pretty sure we were done with episodes dedicated to single clubs after episode 2. They were literally just slightly more unique cannon fodder after that and now that Satsuki will completely restructure the way the Academy works, I doubt we'll even see them as mooks anymore.
i checked the op again and it looks like all the 2 stars that appeared there are already done, and with what Satsuki said at the end of the episode, this might be the last we will see of them. Not to mention the fact that it would mean the final 2 star uniform Ryuko would have destroyed is Mako's
Yep, seems to be the case. Explains the fireworks on a more meta level too; we're now done with the "club presidents" arc.
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it could also be possible that
the disgruntled looking people in the next episode preview all used to be 2 stars but thats just a guess
meanwhile what will actually happen next episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNgcYGgtf8M)
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Actually, there's one 2 star that hasn't fought yet: Sewing Club President - Iori Shirou.
(something tells me he seems to be slightly stronger than an average 2 star too)...
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Man, if Satsuki doesn't stop being mean to her Pokemon Kamui Red is totally gonna beat her with the power of love and friendship. She's even got an Elite Four and everything.
TTGL from the start up to the end. I don't think it's different with this one as well.
This episode...
(http://i.imgur.com/BpFO73B.gif)
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Mako remains the best character in this series/this season/this year/ever. Haters acclimate.
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Weak episode. Though I still laughed with the sudden stripping.
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Mako remains the best character in this series/this season/this year/ever. Haters acclimate.
:unzanfist:
also 2 star mako legit has the coolest outfit in the entire show
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As well as one of the strongest, it seems. Even though they both were most likely pulling their punches, Mako was jut absolutely dominating that fight.
Also the group of people I watch with were thoroughly entertained by "Fight Club", and that Mako was a "street fighter" (as one of my group put it)
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As well as one of the strongest, it seems. Even though they both were most likely pulling their punches, Mako was jut absolutely dominating that fight.
Er, Ryouko wasn't pulling her punches. She wasn't punching at all. The only thing she did was dodge or defend herself.
Actually, there's one 2 star that hasn't fought yet: Sewing Club President - Iori Shirou.
Dunno, he doesn't seem to have anything special combat-wise. Unless he ends up donning a higher star uniform, I doubt he'll even enter combat.
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> next episode preview shows Ryuuko and Mako in a car with bullet holes in it
> next episode airs on the 50th anniversary of JFK's death
> "S1 I DIE"
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its also episode number 8...
trigger pls no
don't do it
pls no ;-;
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Oh god
not her
anyone but her D:
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My friend posted on Facebook the other day about an article where "they" interviewed some people from Trigger, who said that the first half of the season was supposed to be more upbeat, funny, and silly. The second half would take a darker turn, and by the end of the season scheduling apparently some people were in tears. I don't know of the legitimacy of this "article" though.
> next episode preview shows Ryuuko and Mako in a car with bullet holes in it
> next episode airs on the 50th anniversary of JFK's death
> "S1 I DIE"
Do any of the other numbers happen to have a potential meaning? Or are they just numbers?
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My friend posted on Facebook the other day about an article where "they" interviewed some people from Trigger, who said that the first half of the season was supposed to be more upbeat, funny, and silly. The second half would take a darker turn, and by the end of the season scheduling apparently some people were in tears. I don't know of the legitimacy of this "article" though.
http://mantan-web.jp/2013/11/16/20131115dog00m200056000c.html
The core of Kill la Kill is in its second half; during our scenario meetings, we were constantly laughing and had fun while coming up with the first half of the story, but as we approached the end our expressions became more and more serious and our faces paler and paler (laughs). We worked with all our heart on this story so please watch until the end!
There is the saying ?it?s exciting like a rollercoaster? but with Kill la Kill I would actually add a warning to it: it?s a rollercoaster that is so extreme it may be bad for your heart.
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There are 25 planned episodes.
Darker in the 2nd half, and tears in the last...hmmm...Damn Imaishi's and Nakashima's style is really obvious to me now. At this point, nothing will surprise me.
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> next episode preview shows Ryuuko and Mako in a car with bullet holes in it
> next episode airs on the 50th anniversary of JFK's death
> "S1 I DIE"
I just want to see how that can depict killing her and making clear that's what happened. Hasn't she been stabbed in the face at least once already? She's basically made of rubber.
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There are 25 planned episodes.
25 planned episodes.
25 episodes.
TWENTY FIVE EPISODES
gods be praised
But considering this, would episode 8 already be part of the second half of the series? I mean, I can totally see Mako dying, but it'd be lame if it were so soon. And it seemed to me that the next episode will be another filler one. I mean, it's something about Ira getting a driver license to chaffeur Satsuki around. Doesn't really seem relevant in the grand scheme of things.
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Lookin' forward for the second half. I prefer when things are more serious myself.
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mako pls dont die pls you just became the most awesome character ;_;
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mako pls dont die pls you just became the most awesome character ;_;
(http://i.imgur.com/nGH3125.png)Damn Imaishi's and Nakashima's style is really obvious to me now. At this point, nothing will surprise me.
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rip in peace mako ;-;7
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rip in peace mako ;-;7
SHE HASNT DIEEEEEEEEEEED ;-;-;
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watch satsuki die instead
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watch satsuki die instead
man don't even joke about that
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I don't think killing off Mako serves any purpose unless they completely change the tone of the series.
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I don't think killing off Mako serves any purpose unless they completely change the tone of the series.
it serves the purpose of ~*~*~*~*~drama~*~*~*~*~
at any rate, it does seem that the tone of the series will change considerably, if we can take this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15542.msg1045061.html#msg1045061) seriously.
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Okay so yeah, they're probably gonna kill her whole family or something great
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SHE HASNT DIEEEEEEEEEEED ;-;-;
Who says? My money says Mako is a secret mummy and always has been. PLOT TWISTS! :o
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Okay so yeah, they're probably gonna kill her whole family or something great
*sigh* if only....
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They won't kill the whole family, butts is too useful as a *thing* to die. Plus, the males are already ghosts.
I mean guts
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I don't think killing off Mako serves any purpose unless they completely change the tone of the series.
http://mantan-web.jp/2013/11/16/20131115dog00m200056000c.html
The core of Kill la Kill is in its second half; during our scenario meetings, we were constantly laughing and had fun while coming up with the first half of the story, but as we approached the end our expressions became more and more serious and our faces paler and paler (laughs). We worked with all our heart on this story so please watch until the end!
There is the saying ?it?s exciting like a rollercoaster? but with Kill la Kill I would actually add a warning to it: it?s a rollercoaster that is so extreme it may be bad for your heart.
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I just can't see Mako dying until the very end though, even if it would provide a tone shift. There's other characters they could remove that would impact Ryuuko's emotions just as much. Mako provides more than just comic relief to the series as a whole to be removed. Even still, I can only see her dying/getting destroyed at the end if she comes back. She's basically the Honey Kisaragi to Ryuuko's Cutey Honey.
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ITS OUT
MAKO BFF 4EVER
wow lewddd
SATSUKI OMG
omg pls
wait thats it? that was kinda disappointing :<
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the hype, it's all over the walls, wtf
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Oh Gamagoori, you so classy. You might be my favorite char--...uh
uhhh
well.
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Knew it. There had to be something funky about this.
Love you Gamagoori.
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"IS YOUR BRAIN AS ROOKIE AS YOUR LICENSE"
"AND IF I SHED A TEAR, I'LL WIPE IT OUT MYSELF"
"I'M NOT A PERVERT, I'M A CONVERT"
Many great quotes this ep
also
incredibly attracted to Gamagoori now
and finally an explanation for why his weapons are whips.
so sexy
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before episode SO HYPE WOW IS IT THURSDAY YET
after episode SO HYPE OH GOD IS IT THURSDAY YET
Guess we're too used to one episode wrap ups, ehh
Sanageyama and Inumuta casually WHACKING 1 STARS OUT OF THE WAY THO I NEED A GIF OF THAT
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Huh. Gamagoori. That'd explain those images on ermmm. ehem.
Oh btw. I think this is the first episode I ever saw a female One-Star.
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So, Gamagoori is best character, right? Man, this episode was amazing. And what a setup for the next several.
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So, Gamagoori is best character, right? Man, this episode was amazing. And what a setup for the next several.
You mispelled mako :V
Huh. Gamagoori. That'd explain those images on ermmm. ehem.
Oh btw. I think this is the first episode I ever saw a female One-Star.
Does mako count? Also the tennis club members
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You mispelled mako :V
and you both mispelled Satsuki but everyone makes mistakes it's fine it's a part of life
Does mako count?
Nah, she went straight to Two-stars.
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Nah, she went straight to Two-stars.
Check again.
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So we've seen two of Satsuki's lieutenants transform, I think it's safe to assume that the other two can do that as well. Anybody got guesses as to what that would look like? Pretty crazy I assume/hope. We might see at least one in the next couple episodes.
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With nonon getting more air time than the other E4s I actually thought she had a chance of being the second E4 to be fought. Pleasant surprise as well that Gama-chan (omg) actually lost within one episode as per the usual KLK formula, thought they might drag it out to two episodes since two forms but since they didn't, hooray!
Why is Gamagoori so damn huge, like a titan
Also I can't believe Inumuta is looking like to turn out like Keima lmao
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Gamagoori's final attack... that was a giant D, right? Oh anime.
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mash dat f5 button Inumuta
mash it
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so many great things about this episode and yet
and yet
the only thing I can focus on is Gamagoori's size in the flashback
what the hell happened that made him shrink so much in the current days
or was Satsuki just REALLY TINY back then?
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From episode 1 Gamagoori's size has always been uh... malleable
also at this rate, does this mean that in the episode after the next we get to see naked Nonon? :derp: :3 >:D
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So now it's time.
Red Ryuuko will take the whole Elite Four in a row before facing Champion Satsuki. :V
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I'm only on Episode 7, but holy cow I did a spit take when
Gamagoori revealed the masochist thing
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I finally caught up and
also at this rate, does this mean that in the episode after the next we get to see naked Nonon? :derp: :3 >:D
I'll be awaiting patiently for this moment :3
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omg
tron
inamuta stop fondling yourself
gamagori pls put on a shirt or something
WUT
dammit inamuta
OMG NONON TIME!?!?!
makoooo
NONONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
HOLY SHIT NONON CONFIRMED FOR KAMINA
LOLI NONON JESUS FUCK
BITCH IM A PLANE
WHAT NO DONT END THE EPISODE THERE
GODDAMMIT
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Holy mother of FUCK
Inamuta went down like a bitch
and I thought that the anime was really losing the "AWESOME FIGHTS" glamour it originally had... BUT THEN NONON
I had never understood the obsession with Nonon, BUT THEN THIS HAPPENED
HOLY shiiiiiit I'M IN LOVE TOO NOW
Finally an episode that got my heart racing again. Last time this happened was in ep. 3, tbh.
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please scold me more
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Dendrobium Nonon
yessssss
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I took my Classical Music final today, and forgot that Nonon was a band director. I just about lost it at the William Tell Overture. But yeah, that episode was exciting.
I can't wait for Kinagase to come back as well. I was not expecting Mikisugi to be the one to call him back, though, I thought he would have been observing Ryouko, but in a more secretive way than Mikisugi is.
And I was expecting TTGL-style wings when Ryouko was challenged with an air battle, not a rocket dress. Hopefully with the scale of ridiculousness the fights are growing with, Sanageyama's fight will be COMPLETELY bat shit insane
Also, I know in TTGL every time Gurren and Lagann transformed, they played the theme, but hearing Ryouko shout out "life fiber synchronize, Kamui Senketsu" so many times is kind of getting annoying.
With the rate at which Ryouko's gathering fibers and transforming, who's to say she won't eventually wind up with something akin to THE Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
My friend also thinks that Ryouko's and Kinagase's hair colors are too similar (and he speculates some family relationship between the two)
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this scene tho (http://www.donmai.us/posts/1562409?tags=kill_la_kill) (danbo)
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Dat MakoGamagoori manzai.
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Why is Nonon the best?
She will always be the best
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Welp, I think Nonon is my second fav char now, after Satsuki.
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Recorder missiles are the one true kind of missile. And that William Tell Overture. Wow.
...I like Nonon even more now.
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God dammit Maullar.
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Ahhh, this episode satisfied an itch that was bugging me since episode 1.
... Or at least, it almost did anyway. Kick'er ass, Ryuuko \o/
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Who is the mysterious girl?
'Cause seriously I want to know. :V
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So I finally got around to watching this this week. I am pleased =[
Also I am surprised and kinda pleased that Inumuta went down like he did. On one hand I wanted him to be hyper badass, because intellectual characters are the best characters. On the other, I am pleased he valued his data more than a victory. I'm also pleased he didn't spend the whole time boasting about perfect predictions. At least not outwardly.
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ep 10 spoilers
I like how the Senkentsu Gale title appeared on the teacher's glasses as he was calling the guy with the mohawk
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ep 10 spoilers
I like how the Senkentsu Gale title appeared on the teacher's glasses as he was calling the guy with the mohawk
They like fooling around with those.
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NEW EP IS OUT
I had a feeling the new girl would be broken...
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Well, that certainly was Yukarin as a
brutal time/space-altering murderer
.
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Is she bluffing? I wonder...
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Is she bluffing? I wonder...
Ryuko's dad was still almost certainly offed by Satsuki's mom. Harime still probably had something to do with it, and obviously has ties to whoever was the killer because she has the other scissor. It seems likely that Harime is intentionally trying to rile Ryuko up, to get Senketsu to... overload? Go berserk? Whatever the Nudist Beach guys are trying to prevent.
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"This is what I call pure stupidity."
This episode in a nutshell.
The second part at least was an awesome stupidity.
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POWER LEVELS
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everybody get up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3klAoLo9h_4&feature=youtu.be)
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POWER LEVELS
Ragyo's hair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything and everyone from anything and everything else ever
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Ryuko's dad was still almost certainly offed by Satsuki's mom. Harime still probably had something to do with it, and obviously has ties to whoever was the killer because she has the other scissor. It seems likely that Harime is intentionally trying to rile Ryuko up, to get Senketsu to... overload? Go berserk? Whatever the Nudist Beach guys are trying to prevent.
I don't know about getting Senketsu to overload, it seems to me that Harime just jumped in because it seemed fun. Harime is most likely the killer (she did mention how she got the blade), and Senketsu overloading might be a result of Ryouko loosing control
Something I don't get is that Senketsu runs on Ryouko's blood. Even with an increased efficiency from all of the life fibers, she just fought three of the Elite Four. I expect her to run out of blood power sometime soon. Most likely at some climatic point of battle.
It also looks like we're wrapping up the "high school" part of the series. Remember what was mentioned earlier about the second half? Well if KlK is slated for 25 episodes, we're just about there.
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also at this rate, does this mean that in the episode after the next we get to see naked Nonon? :derp: :3 >:D
oh man even mako, gamagoori, and inamua were hype :3
omg i just realized that ragyo has 7 cross shaped scars on her back...
SHE'S MOTHER FUCKING KENSHIRO
also nui's va is yukari tamura nipaaa~
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She's not the killer, the killer's hair is completely different: long and straight. Only person with hair like that so far is Satsuki, so we probably haven't met the killer yet.
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As much as I like the show, I'm a little disappointed with the end of the last episode.
After hyping up Sanegayama as essentially unbeatable, cause he can see everything, he gets taken out in one shot? Not cool, writers.
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"You voluntarily admit to being an underachiever?"
"That's the spirit, Mako!"
omg gamagoori
She's not the killer, the killer's hair is completely different: long and straight. Only person with hair like that so far is Satsuki, so we probably haven't met the killer yet.
actually in the flashback her hair is split into two partswait no nevermind
she does have long hair though so she could have just had it undone
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she does have long hair though so she could have just had it undone
Her hair is too poofy to work, because anime logic dictates out can never be straight
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She's not the killer, the killer's hair is completely different: long and straight. Only person with hair like that so far is Satsuki, so we probably haven't met the killer yet.
And is that even the same scissor? I mean, its color is different from both Ryuko's half and the one the killer is holding in the flashbacks.
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You know what I think? I think all this will be overcome with "friendship". Sooner or later the Elite Four + Satsuki-chuuuan will befriend Ryuuko and her underachieving sidekick Mako.
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And is that even the same scissor? I mean, its color is different from both Ryuko's half and the one the killer is holding in the flashbacks.
For some reason ever since the first episode I thought the other half of the scissor was blue and not red. I understand that purple isn't blue, but it goes with my theory that the scissor was two-colored.
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For some reason ever since the first episode I thought the other half of the scissor was blue and not red. I understand that purple isn't blue, but it goes with my theory that the scissor was two-colored.
Nah, if it's her, it'll be too short-lived for the whole reason why Ryuko was there in the first place...then again, there might be a new plot twist.
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I'm pretty sure someone had shown off the blue scissor half in one of the first episodes (Satsuki?) so that's where you're getting that from.
Nui's is purple, plus it totally wasn't her in the flashback.
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Proper ending frame, though.
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As much as I like the show, I'm a little disappointed with the end of the last episode. After hyping up Sanegayama as essentially unbeatable, cause he can see everything, he gets taken out in one shot? Not cool, writers.
I didn't like how Nui made him look so weak neither, especially in front of his master. Damn, he is the most badass out of elite four... ;-;
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I actually loved that they did that. They were building up for the rematch to the point where I was really glad they showed off their self-awareness. Plus he started acting like a jerk again in this episode for whatever reason.
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On the other hand, Nui's interruption may have just saved Senketsu (supposing that the bullet Kinagase had was made solely to kill stop out-of-control kamuis)
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You know what I think? I think all this will be overcome with "friendship". Sooner or later the Elite Four + Satsuki-chuuuan will befriend Ryuuko and her underachieving sidekick Mako.
I think that's pretty clearly the direction we're headed, yeah. Now that what are presumably the new villains for the second half have been introduced what do you think the odds are that we're getting a new opening for the next episode?
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I think that's pretty clearly the direction we're headed, yeah. Now that what are presumably the new villains for the second half have been introduced what do you think the odds are that we're getting a new opening for the next episode?
0% since it won't change until episode 13 or 14
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You know what I think? I think all this will be overcome with "friendship". Sooner or later the Elite Four + Satsuki-chuuuan will befriend Ryuuko and her underachieving sidekick Mako.
I'm hoping this will really happen, then maybe we can even see something like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/wvFFxrh.jpg)
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One more episode until a new intro. I figure 12+12+finale=25, with the finale not having an intro.
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During the beginning for the episode I couldn't help but think of touhou.
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During the beginning for the episode I couldn't help but think of touhou.
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She even has a nice hat, I sure she'd fit right in. Do the Prismriver sisters even have a conductor?
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My reaction to the last episode was "Well that's one mystery solved I guess"
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My reaction to the last episode was "Well that's one mystery solved I guess"
There were no mysteries solved. If Nui really is the killer I'll eat my rock collection.
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There were no mysteries solved. If Nui really is the killer I'll eat my rock collection.
Agreed, and the silhouette in that flashback has really looked like Satsuki all along, which means there's a decent chance it's her/her mother/evil twin, although that seems like it would've been kind of obvious. My money's on long-haired past Gamagoori. :derp:
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Agreed, and the silhouette in that flashback has really looked like Satsuki all along, which means there's a decent chance it's her/her mother/evil twin, although that seems like it would've been kind of obvious. My money's on long-haired past Gamagoori. :derp:
Who knows. Prolly Ryuuko and Satsuki are related. Sure, Ryuuko's mother is dead...cough* cough* cover up*
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M thought is that she is part of a group of hired hit(wo)men, and Nui just identifies with whatever weapon she's using. In this case, the scissor half.
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ten bucks says sanageyama will pretty much exactly follow the path of viral, because that seems to be where he's heading
also i am very get hype for how quickly this is escalating
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ten bucks says sanageyama will pretty much exactly follow the path of viral, because that seems to be where he's heading
also i am very get hype for how quickly this is escalating
Fun fact:
Sanageyama and Viral have the same VA.
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They're pretty much the same character so far.
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Fun fact:
Sanageyama and Viral have the same VA.
That is literally the reason I'm making the comparison. Like Jana says, TTGL and KLK are made by the same minds, Viral and Sanageyama share a voice actor, and so far they're basically the same characters, all the way to the nuances of them powering up only to fail even more quickly than previously.
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So uh
Where's this week's episode
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It's out! Like, ten minutes ago.
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Oh. I guess the better question is "why isn't it on crunchyroll".
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Glued to the seat the entire time.
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Glued to the seat the entire time.
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You can add me to that list as well
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There were no mysteries solved. If Nui really is the killer I'll eat my rock collection.
well shit looks like there'll be lots of silica in my diet now
the only thing I can say after this episode is
HOLY FUCK
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So uh
Where's this week's episode
It's out! Like, ten minutes ago.
not watching livestream 12 hours ago :smug:
i made a wallpaper for myself for ryuko's lvoely rage faces this episode (http://puu.sh/5SmrU)
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So...what's going to happen now?
Ryuko knows who killed her dad and pretty much doesn't have much of a reason to go after Satsuki. I know Satsuki said she was the one who sent her, but it felt kinda weak and Ryuko sounded like she wasn't having any of that either. Eyepatch girl is annoying though.
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Mako. Best Character Ever.
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Mako. Best Character Ever.
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Man, I am so onboard with everything that happened this episode. And most of it felt very Evangelion, which I'm not complaining about. Great episode, set up some really interesting stuff in the next few, super cool.
Anybody still doubting Nui's claim that she killed Ryuko's (surprisingly kickass) dad? Technically I guess there's nothing in her story that she absolutely had to be there to know, so she could still be lying.
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Anybody still doubting Nui's claim that she killed Ryuko's (surprisingly kickass) dad? Technically I guess there's nothing in her story that she absolutely had to be there to know, so she could still be lying.
It's not usual for a character to be psychoanalyzed the way Satsuki did for Nui if it wasn't actually her.
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(https://31.media.tumblr.com/84df48ab104b21bc779fe85ef1c991ab/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o1_500.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/add9a530fcd01ba4ba0f4b2d2bfc9c2d/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o2_500.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/143fd20cdb6c30177c55201c5de0fa93/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o3_500.jpg)
if he's a love interest for Ryouko I swear to god
the last thing this series needs is a romance subplot
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Pls
subplot is with sensei
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(https://31.media.tumblr.com/84df48ab104b21bc779fe85ef1c991ab/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o1_500.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/add9a530fcd01ba4ba0f4b2d2bfc9c2d/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o2_500.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/143fd20cdb6c30177c55201c5de0fa93/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o3_500.jpg)
if he's a love interest for Ryouko I swear to god
the last thing this series needs is a romance subplot
Well, we don't know yet. I mean, these are the guys who made TTGL. The people who thought "Hey let's make everyone who fell in-love with Yoko die right after she kisses them.", and "Hmm.. Simon seems happy with Nia. Let's make her an anti-heroine midway of the last arc, and kill her. That way people will shed more tears!".
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really implying that they didn't actually plan the series out at all there
or rather that this sort of thing was done explicitly for this reason
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Mako is the romance subplot. As it should be.
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Should I change the thread title to a more appropriate one for the show? What should be good?
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Mostly incorrect speculation [Kill la Kill Thread]
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Kill La Kill Ep. 13 Takes a Mid-Season Hiatus; Airing goes back on 9th January. (http://www.reddit.com/r/KillLaKill/comments/1tqzuh/kill_la_kill_episode_13_airs_january_9th/)
Welp. My holiday's ruin. I can take one week off, but two weeks?!
What am I gonna do with my life now?
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So close to being back. :|
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ONE MORE DAY
ONE MORE DAY
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It's funny, I usually have to remind myself every Thursday that KLK exists, but now I was actually waiting for it all week.
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Can't wait to see the new opening.
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any moment now...
Time to GET HYPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2UuW8G1K8)
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i read somewhere that the new OP wouldnt be out till ep 15 but unconfirmed
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i just checked the RAW
no new op :<
rofl everyone has tracksuits now
omg this new guy wont stop yelling
...ragyou are you really feeling up your own daughter...
wow in the girl's bathroom yeah hi there mako
lol nvm ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA(?)
oh no! mako has been sentenced to hard labor for hanging out with a douchebag ;-;
ryuuko stop being sad
i mean at this rate we might have to say that you...
LOST YOUR WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THIS ASSHOLE THO
OMG HERE IT COMES
DONT
LOSE
YOUR
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
WAIT WHAT
THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE THO
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OH WHAT THE FUCK
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/84df48ab104b21bc779fe85ef1c991ab/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o1_500.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/add9a530fcd01ba4ba0f4b2d2bfc9c2d/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o2_500.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/143fd20cdb6c30177c55201c5de0fa93/tumblr_mya0inA64W1s1nx17o3_500.jpg)
if he's a love interest for Ryouko I swear to god
the last thing this series needs is a romance subplot
UH YEAH SO MUCH FOR THAT
okay so that was one hell of an episode...
ahaha wow the episode is even titled "crazy for you" wow you got me good there trigger...
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SENKETSU NOOOOO! D:
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SENKETSU NOOOOO! D:
literally RIP ;-;
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OH WHAT THE FUCK
nui a shit
♪ I'M FEEELING RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE ♪
also ragyou what are you doing im
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WELCOME BACK KLK WELCOME BACK
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Wow, was not expecting that.
Poor Senketsu ;_;
...
Also, pre-emptive poor Mako because she's probably dyin' on this trip! :V
(I still love Nui though)
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also ragyou what are you doing im
someone really needs to call child services cause that was a baad touch
Also, pre-emptive poor Mako because she's probably dyin' on this trip! :V
well at least she got one of her wishes
also more like poor ryuko because all of her friends are gone/dead now and she has neither the will nor power to fight anything anymore
at this point satsuki is probably gonna take over as the protagonist
until she dies in episode 15
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OH WHAT THE FUCK
when will this fucking show stop with its godforsaken twists oh my lords
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Once again all I can say is "Yup, I'm on board with all of this". Good times.
Also I don't know why the consistent lack of a new opening is making me so mad. I skip the opening anyway. I'm just mad that TV is being unpredictable I guess. Episode 15? Okay then.
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Once again all I can say is "Yup, I'm on board with all of this". Good times.
Also I don't know why the consistent lack of a new opening is making me so mad. I skip the opening anyway. I'm just mad that TV is being unpredictable I guess. Episode 15? Okay then.
actually it's episode 16 i think that will have the new op
episode 15 will be the last episode in this arc, then probably a timeskip or something will happen for episode 16 along with the new op because the new op has spoilers
so someone is probably gonna die in episode 15
although senketsu already died in this one ;-;
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episode 15 will be the last episode in this arc, then probably a timeskip or something will happen for episode 16 along with the new op because the new op has spoilers
so someone is probably gonna die in episode 15
although senketsu already died in this one ;-;
New OP features Senketsu's offspring.
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New OP features Senketsu's offspring.
Ryuko pledges allegiance to Satsuki and in return she has the one last scrap of senketsu Ryuko was holding turned into a full uniform
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Ryuko pledges allegiance to Satsuki and in return she has the one last scrap of senketsu Ryuko was holding turned into a full uniform
My initial thought was that she has to battle her way back up to the top by defeating everyone who got one of the pieces to rebuild him. That seems like it could take a while and be pretty similar to the first half of the show, but she would be way weaker than her opponents at first so it could be kind of interesting.
Edit:
Also, did we see what happened to her sword? I don't remember. Did Nui take it or did Satsuki scare her off first? Did Satsuki take it?
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Does anyone have a link for episode 13? I've been waiting for it in anime season but it still wouldn't show? Has kill LA kill ended on 12 episodes? o.O
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Good thing I've bookmarked a polish site which lists episodes uploads (or whatever stuff they do to not be called thiefs). Also I smell Ryuko becoming more and more OP up to Gurren Lagann levels (big epic fight which'll be uploaded by LOTS of youtubers)
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Does anyone have a link for episode 13? I've been waiting for it in anime season but it still wouldn't show? Has kill LA kill ended on 12 episodes? o.O
We're talking about Episode 13 here. Here's one link. (http://animecenter.tv/watch/kill-la-kill-episode-13)
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"doing that will let us see her go all out. and isnt that something you yourself wanted ragyo?"
OH SHIT FORESHADOWING
SATSUKI CONFIRMED KILLED BY JUNKETSU IN EPISODE 15
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SATSUKI CONFIRMED KILLED BY JUNKETSU IN EPISODE 15
don't even joke man
don't even joke
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don't even joke man
don't even joke
(http://i.imgur.com/GBxoQFc.gif)
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don't even joke man
don't even joke
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It's possible. And it'll be a reason for Team Ryuuko to team up with the Elite Four; vice versa.
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Late to the party it seems but, agh, this was a pretty painful episode. But, I suppose you can't have development without being broken down first.
Nui, you scumbag! brb waiting warmly for her retribution.
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(http://i.imgur.com/GBxoQFc.gif)
I think this sums up the episode for me pretty well. I am terribly amused at this episode.
Though shouldn't Ryuko have taken someone's place in the elite four, what with beating them in the election?
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I don't care what anyone says.
I LIKE NUI.
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I think this sums up the episode for me pretty well. I am terribly amused at this episode.
Though shouldn't Ryuko have taken someone's place in the elite four, what with beating them in the election?
Technically I guess, but Satsuki has made it pretty clear by this point that she doesn't actually follow her own rules.
I don't care what anyone says.
I LIKE NUI.
I do too, she's a fine bad guy.
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Technically I guess, but Satsuki has made it pretty clear by this point that she doesn't actually follow her own rules.
True, but even if she did. I don' think she sees Ryuko as a strong person. When she was talking to her Elite four, she said there was no shame in losing to the Kamui, not Ryuko.
That said, I hope they add more people. I find Ryuko boring and the Mako's family is annoying. They should make a spinoff starring the Elite Four.
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ITS THURSDAY
TIME FOR HYPE
wait what SATSUKI DIDNT TAKE HER BLADE AWAY
satsuki what are you planningggggg
REVERSE RIP SENKETSU
AND NOW RYOUKO IN A TRACKSUIT
OMG SO FABULOUS
OH, MY GOD!
NONON WHERE ARE YOUR PANTS
HOYL SHIT ITS THE CHINESE GIRLS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
MAKO
PLS
RYOUKO I KNOW YOU DONT LIKE GAMAGOORI BUT THATS REALLY DANGEROUS
DONT LOSE YOUR WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
ryouko i know you really want senketsu back but i think i like your new look better :derp:
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Okay so after that episode, I think that either in the next episode or the one after it,
Mako will not get killed, but rather get kidnapped (like Nia).
Up to this point Ryuko's only motivation for fighting was revenge, which never let her properly sync with Senketsu and resulted in them going berserk at the end. But then in this episode they reveal that Ryuko is much stronger when she actually has something decent to fight for ie. saving Senketsu.
The only other character Ryuko actually cares about in the entire show is Mako, so this is probably foreshadowing something happening to Mako and in trying to save her, Ryuko will reach TTGL power levels. :V If Mako is killed then instead of getting stronger she'll just go berserk again and not actually get any stronger. Obviously the prime suspect for the kidnapping would be Nui/Ragyou.
This still does not rule out the possibility of Satsuki dying though. And the fact that she is going to fight in the next episode really doesn't bode well for her... :<
aaaaaa can't wait till next week
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This anime is best, 'nuff said.
I wish I could get all of the references in this episode, tho. Dunno if this sounds naive, but are the people from Osaka really that greedy? and does Kobe really have a habit of getting international help?
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LET'S BEGIN!
COME ON, NUDE SHOOTING STAR!
FAREWELL, STUDENTS OF HONNOUJI ACADEMY!
so intense
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This still does not rule out the possibility of Satsuki dying though. And the fact that she is going to fight in the next episode really doesn't bode well for her... :<
stop it stop it stop it STOP IT STOP IT I'M NOT HEARING YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALASADGSASDGGCFKLLASF *breaks down crying 'cause that actually seems logical*
But then again not a single prediction we've made in this thread was correct, so... let's hope that this trend continues :getdown:
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i think it all depends on whether or not nui shows up next episode
cause she knows how to stir shit up :V
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Maaaaan, once again everything was great.
I like Ryuko's new look more too. I'm glad Senketsu isn't dead though. And as I predicted, Ryuko has to travel across Japan re-collecting his pieces... Extremely quickly I guess.
I'm assuming Sanageyama's way-lower-than-initially-implied power level is for plot convenience, but I'll be super impressed if he actually does know everything that's going on and is going to pull some amazing turnaround
stop it stop it stop it STOP IT STOP IT I'M NOT HEARING YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALASADGSASDGGCFKLLASF *breaks down crying 'cause that actually seems logical*
But then again not a single prediction we've made in this thread was correct, so... let's hope that this trend continues :getdown:
This show is mad unpredictable.
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Good episode, but I keep waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop.
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Wait so Ryuko can't transform without the glove? But in episode 1 she didn't even have it
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Wait so Ryuko can't transform without the glove? But in episode 1 she didn't even have it
I think it's more that she's missing the vast majority of the fabric.
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I think it's more that she's missing the vast majority of the fabric.
Didn't Senketsu say Satsuki had the final part, then we saw a close up of the glove? Although with the glove (afaik) being only a blood extraction device, which Satsuki already has on her sleeve, I fail to see any importance of it to Senketsu's "body" -- "He" existed without it before, right?
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This anime is best, 'nuff said.
I wish I could get all of the references in this episode, tho. Dunno if this sounds naive, but are the people from Osaka really that greedy? and does Kobe really have a habit of getting international help?
I might not be 100% correct, but I think Kobe has a lot of "sister cities" scattered around the world, and it was a major port for international trade, one of Japan's first to open after they were forced to drop their policy of exclusion. Osaka is supposed to also be kind of a shady businesses-run city, and it's people are stereotypically "EHH?" and in-your-face (see: Azumanga Daoih when the characters are teasing Osaka about how un-Osakan she is). It's more obvious but Kyoto's status as the "old capital" and "historical treasure" is what led to its depiction this week.
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Next or probably after that,
we might see Kiryuin Satsuki's downfall.
Didn't Senketsu say Satsuki had the final part, then we saw a close up of the glove? Although with the glove (afaik) being only a blood extraction device, which Satsuki already has on her sleeve, I fail to see any importance of it to Senketsu's "body" -- "He" existed without it before, right?
You need to remember that in the first few episodes, Senketsu cannot transform when she had no blood to give. The Seki Tekkō is something that can conveniently and continuously draw her blood to feed and keep Senketsu active. It's possible that the Seki Tekkō also feeds Senketsu enough blood just so that Ryuuko can last longer without her being over fatigue.
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Man this sure is the week of "Here's a bunch of characters new characters, enjoy them while they last!". Hella episode.
RIP Beeftank ;_;
Also I am pleased that Inumuta got to show up Nonon, after Nonon showed him up at the Naturals' Election.
Also clearly Mako is the one that Ryuko desires the most.
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I might not be 100% correct, but I think Kobe has a lot of "sister cities" scattered around the world, and it was a major port for international trade, one of Japan's first to open after they were forced to drop their policy of exclusion. Osaka is supposed to also be kind of a shady businesses-run city, and it's people are stereotypically "EHH?" and in-your-face (see: Azumanga Daoih when the characters are teasing Osaka about how un-Osakan she is). It's more obvious but Kyoto's status as the "old capital" and "historical treasure" is what led to its depiction this week.
Thank you for sharing this information, that's really interesting to know. ^-^
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OH BOY IT'S TIME
GET HYPE
omg mitsuki's team THEY'RE ALL NAKED XMEN
OH SHIT THE OP GOT INTERRUPTED
SHIT IS NOW SO REAL
Satsuki vs everyone
no contest here
oh hey gamagoori when did you get here
OH BOY SUPPLY DROP FOR SANEGAYAMA LETS FUCKING GO
...oh god you didnt have to go that far
ALRIGHT FINALLY RYOUKO LETS GO
THE REMATCH
ITS HAPPENING
BUT THEN SUDDENLY NUDIST MECHS
...jesus they look so stupid
i guess cause they want to have mechs but not 'wear' them at the same time
QUADRUPLE ELITE FOUR TRANSFORMATION OH SHIT
dat nonon :3 face
DONT LOSE YOUR WAYYYYYY
WELCOME TO THE PARTY SATSUKI
HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE PUNCH
omg gamagoori vs mako you two are so silly
looks like ryouko pulled the ol kamina bro punch
oh that's it? welp
>everyone expects someone to die
>no one dies
WHAT A TWIST
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where the hell did you watch it Crunchroll had to delay their release
link plz
plz
plzzzzzzzzzzz
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japanese raw :derp:
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gods damn you :fail:
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Fucking CR, I swear to god
I need this show on thursdays, not fridays :|
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Oh man, time to see who's finally gonna die!
"I'm not scared anymore, either." <---GODDAMNIT
Also Nonon x Satsuki is now real.
Also, stupid people will think that Gamagoori Mk II is supposed to be Juggernaut. But intelligent people will know he's actually Anakaris (http://maidenthebest.altervista.org/images/album_powerslave_iron_maiden.jpg). And I wanna see Fight Club Mako take him down.
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my heart literally skipped a bit at that introduction
goddammit nudist beach
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Most f*cked up episode so far...
(http://www.meme.rumbaar.net/cache/4chan/maor.jpg_595.jpg)
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Also Nonon x Satsuki is now real.
I think it has been for a while. But Mako x Ira is kind of a thing now too and may have been for a while as well. Pretty good.
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Am I the only one who sees Sanageyama's new Goku uniform bears a somewhat resemblance to Viral's samurai-modeled gunman Enki...
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130720143359/gurennlagann/images/b/b0/Enkidu.png)
I like this episode.
It's like Power Rangers versus the invading aliens and whatnot...except this this time, the colorful rainbow-themed characters are the enemy.
Also..."Fall on FRIENDSHIP!" The most powerful force ever known, next to love.
Also Nonon x Satsuki is now real.
"Don't be silly."
Anyways, time to do some "incorrect speculation".
I think Ryuuko is the true Kiryuin daughter
. YES. THERE I SAID IT.
"Teh flat tickens."
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.......................
>.>
<.<
sanageyama x takarada is currently the most canon pairing
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Nonon why are you so cute and the best 3-star no stop please.
inb4 Ryuuko is actually Satsuki's half-sister because the father slept with RAINBOWZ
No seriously, I expect (and would absolutely love) if both Satsuki and Ryuuko team up in the end to defeat Nui and the mother.
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Fuck I just can't even
this ep
why
takarada im
omg
pls no DON'T END ARGFGHKSDLX
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.......................
>.>
<.<
sanageyama x takarada is currently the most canon pairing
lewd
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sanageyama x takarada is currently the most canon pairing
gamagoori x makanshoku tbh
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Nice episode this week ,
Also,
Why cant ryuko battle without the glove anymore , we can clearly see her fighting with the boxing club president in episode 1 without it , I can understand if its piece of senketsu because its attached to the glove but they said glove on my subs
And
Can't ryuko just beat the elite four instantly , because their just 30% life fibers making it a 3-star and a kamui is 100% making her and satsuki basically a 10-star?
Another thing,
To be honest I'm really fucking confused about ryuko's dad , she knows who's the killer right? It was nui , so what more is Mikisugi gonna tell? Fuck its confusing
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She never used Senketsu in it's stable form without the glove (she was still ashamed to use him the first time she fought in it), so maybe the glove is necessary to control Senketsu when he's used in the correct way;
Just because a kamui has greater raw power than the 3 star uniforms doesn't mean that Ryouko can acess all of it at once, not to mention the fact that the 3 star uniforms are custom made to maximize the specific abilities of the wearers, and that they have probably been using them for a far logner time than Ryouko has been using Senketsu, therefore having more pratice with it;
There's obviously a lot more going on that just Ryouko's father murder, and Mikisugi is gonna fill her in on that (probably what their organization was doing, REVOCS plans, what was the relationship between her father and the nudists, etc etc).
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Nice episode this week ,
Also,
Why cant ryuko battle without the glove anymore , we can clearly see her fighting with the boxing club president in episode 1 without it , I can understand if its piece of senketsu because its attached to the glove but they said glove on my subs
And
Can't ryuko just beat the elite four instantly , because their just 30% life fibers making it a 3-star and a kamui is 100% making her and satsuki basically a 10-star?
Another thing,
To be honest I'm really fucking confused about ryuko's dad , she knows who's the killer right? It was nui , so what more is Mikisugi gonna tell? Fuck its confusing
I bet you haven't watched TTGL yet.
I want to tell you a lot of things, but I'm pretty sure you'll understand it more as it progresses.
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Just because a kamui has greater raw power than the 3 star uniforms doesn't mean that Ryouko can acess all of it at once, not to mention the fact that the 3 star uniforms are custom made to maximize the specific abilities of the wearers, and that they have probably been using them for a far logner time than Ryouko has been using Senketsu, therefore having more pratice with it;
Plus keeping in mind how Inamuta took out a rampaging 5-star while not even transformed. "Practice" may be putting it lightly.
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The amount of control, experience, and synchronization one has with their kamui or uniform is just as important if not more so than that sheer percentage of life fibers.
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The amount of control, experience, and synchronization one has with their kamui or uniform is just as important if not more so than that sheer percentage of life fibers.
Don't forget friendship.
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Friendship, you say? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHt1Tj6Kes0)
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"I don't need the Keyblade"
>receives keyblade
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Blargh I'm just now sitting down and watching this again and after a few episodes I'm wondering why I ever stopped watching in the first place D:? I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO SLEEP ASIHGwprighaspidhgpwirhgwrg (at least I'm at episode
7 8 I can't count at 5am)
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My friend sent this to me.
(http://i.imgur.com/sWnGOVD.png)
Blumenkanye - Kanye West vs. Hiroyuki Sawano (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iJFSoPk-CU)
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Shared that with some of my friends. This was their response
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Early on somebody told me that Satsuki's armor was based on Gunbuster. I didn't see it at the time, but I just now recognized that she does, in fact, really look like Gunbuster, Has she done the pose yet? I haven't been paying attention.
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Has she done the pose yet?
She kinda can't, she has her own pose.
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IT'S THURSDAY
NEW OP
LETS
SKINNY DIVING!
omg ragyou no
stop
satsuki ;_;
Mako: 'man that's a lot of dicks'
oh my fucking god
as if mitsugi wasnt fabulous enough
no THAT WAS NOT EVEN HIS FINAL FORM
also Mako lied Satsuki's tit are way bigger :derp:
OMG THIS ED THEME
MAKO CONFIRMED TRUE MAIN CHAR
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Finally 2nd Half is here.
I've always thought of Nui like this...
Nui = Overpowered Evil Version of Mako.
Original Life Fiber came from space? Uh-oh...My first post, WE DO MIGHT SEE EPIC BATTLES IN UNIVERSAL PROPORTIONS.
And here I thought they wouldn't go as far as doing something like in TTGL. I guess I was wrong.
The plot thickens...IT'S THURSDAY
OMG THIS ED THEME
SO FRIGGIN' ADORABLE.
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YO THE THREAD TOPIC HAS AN EXTRA WORD.
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Wow uhhh that bathhouse scene
Poor Satsuki, I really like her but I feel like in the end Ryuuko will win by outlasting her. I still wanna see Ryuuko and Satsuki team up in the end though.
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someone needs to tell ragyou that's NOT how mother daughter bonding works
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ohi nui
ragyou pls
ragyou
RAGYOU
RAGYOU STAHP
IM
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Ziggy Stardust Mikisugi made my day, you don't even know.
Also best recap.
Hoping for friendship end with the Life Fibers
Also also: HELL YES PIRATE MAKO
Edit: Ragyou has some great crazy eyes, though.
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NEW ENDING MMMMG! *-*
Also, it's cute how much Senketsu care about his owner <3
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Edit: Ragyou has some great crazy eyes, though.
Ringed and multi-colored. They're beautiful. Like everything about her (Except the horrible abusive incest I guess).
Nui's eyes are crazier, though; they form a sinister smiling mask. (http://s14.postimg.org/3qnwinq1d/Untitled_3.jpg)
..........................
ragyou x satsuki is the other canon pairing right nao txt it =V
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Gotta get those aliens or it isn't anime.
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Okay, can we nominate TRIGGER for some award for "most over-the-top justification for fanservice ever" because seriously now
I don't think any studio's ever just literally said clothing is evil and will enslave mankind
to explain things. I... uh... wow.
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It looks to me like right now, both Ryouko and Satsuki think they've been fighting for the wrong side
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Best recap episode ever.
Everything about this episode was brilliant. Oh my god. asdfhjkl;.
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So, an alien entity crashed on Earth in the distant past, and has been responsible for the evolution of humans as the dominant lifeforms, but only so that it could eventually consume them...
I hope I wasn't the only one that thought of Chrono Trigger.
But seriously, this show only keeps getting better.
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(http://i.imgur.com/31iCNJT.gif)
based ryuuko
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So, an alien entity crashed on Earth in the distant past, and has been responsible for the evolution of humans as the dominant lifeforms, but only so that it could eventually consume them...
I hope I wasn't the only one that thought of Chrono Trigger.
But seriously, this show only keeps getting better.
My first response was "Suck it coobie"
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My first response was "Suck it coobie"
Mine was "Wait, isn't this just Evangelion?" and then I was like "Oh yeah, that plot point is in like half of all anime".
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To be fair, everyone was predicting the old soylent green angle (i.e. LIFE FIBERS ARE PEOPLE!)
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New op/ed are fantastic.
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I can't get enough of that manservice.
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Did anyone else notice the Colonel Sanders statue in the river? Did you know that there's a history behind it? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Colonel)
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Oh for fuck's sake
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Is it just me, or does this thread set a record for largest amount of spoilered text?
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Holy shit
HOLY SHIT THAT END
IS KIRYUIN FINALLY DEAD?
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oh my god
if you do not think Satsuki is the greatest character ever
you would be so so wrong
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Kiryuin Ragyo = Definition of ☆Fabulous☆
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I got a bunch of Kefka vibes from Ragyo. She looked more like a clown than anything else on stage.
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Ryouko is completely superfluous now
Can't we just focus on Satsuki from now on plz
Only disappointment was Ragyou's attire. Her normal dress looks far better. Hopefully she'll go back to it soon.
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that one sequence during the new OP reminds me so much of DMC3, offhandedly.
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Ryouko is completely superfluous now
Can't we just focus on Satsuki from now on plz
Only disappointment was Ragyou's attire. Her normal dress looks far better. Hopefully she'll go back to it soon.
All of this but the exact opposite, please.
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Ha ha ha ha ha pretty good.
IS KIRYUIN FINALLY DEAD?
Definitely not.
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Holy shit
HOLY SHIT THAT END
IS KIRYUIN FINALLY DEAD?
She looked pretty alive in the preview.
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All of this but the exact opposite, please.
you wanna go punk
IS KIRYUIN FINALLY DEAD?
Considering she showed alive and well in the next ep preview... no.
Hey, Satsuki rebelled against Ragyou, which was called in this thread somewhere IIRC. Does that make the first time a correct prediction was made in this thread?
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Hey, Satsuki rebelled against Ragyou, which was called in this thread somewhere IIRC. Does that make the first time a correct prediction was made in this thread?
Depends on what you consider a "prediction". I think a few things have been called that happened in the immediate following episode and that seemed pretty obvious.
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I meant predictions that tried to guess where the story was going, like when I predicted that Nui would turn out to have NOT been Ryouko's father killer or when you predicted that Ryouko would have to fight her way up to collect Senketsu's scraps.
I gues sprediction is the wrong word; speculation is more correct?
At any rate, I don't think anyone doubted for a second that Satsuki would end up against her mother anyway, so it doesn't count much
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I meant predictions that tried to guess where the story was going, like when I predicted that Nui would turn out to have NOT been Ryouko's father killer or when you predicted that Ryouko would have to fight her way up to collect Senketsu's scraps.
I gues sprediction is the wrong word; speculation is more correct?
At any rate, I don't think anyone doubted for a second that Satsuki would end up against her mother anyway, so it doesn't count much
That's kind of what I was getting at, I was technically totally right about that. It just took like four minutes while I thought it would take five episodes. :V
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you wanna go punk
No gods, no masters.
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Is it bad/weird for me to say "I expected this will happen sooner or later?"
I mean, I've expected this ever since around Nui showed. Satsuki's pride goes beyond that she will not submit to just mere clothing.
Ryuuko: WAT DA HELL?
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OH MY GOOOOOOD
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God Damn! What-THE FUCK-IS-HAPPENING
Firstly,
WHAT THE FACK AND WAT A FACKING ENDING! the fucking story just went 180 degrees and threw it onto our faces!!!
Secondly,
I still hate how they have 2 episodes without a single fight scene , but THAT STAB IN THE BACK
is sufficient for now ;)
Thirdly,
does this mean Satsuki and Ryuuko will team up together to form a Tag Team Life Fiber Synchornization?! WITH THE ELITE FOURRRR!!! , OMYYYYGOD IF THAT WILL HAPPEN! i will :D
Fourthly,
Im guessing Satsuki will break the people free from the life fibers , because i saw her in the preview leaping towards them
and can anyone explain to me
Why the fuck is Ragyo , Satsuki , and the elite four is not affected when she pushed the button? Arent they totally wearing life fibers? _ _ll
So MUCH STUFF DAMN KILL LA KILL KEEPS GETTING BETTER! :3
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Makes me wonder about how Ryuuko might say Satsuki still has "lofty ambitions" when, for the moment, they have the same goal of standing against life fibers.
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Okay live manzai go
wait how is the racist standoff suddenly resolved.b
and dafuq is with mikisuge robe flitting off his sexy arms in a bend while retaining its shape
but well he's emitting a star of manliness all along anway eff
satsuki tea much lol
btw i suddenly feel they are less cold
hey bitter and deliciousness aren't mutually exclusive think advocadoes
buy maybe its actually like everyone's more human, like more implusive etceterum
Individuality Ira GO!
mankanshouko dafuq
ira is so kind
but well damn you are good as ded
okay so apparently charisma is defined by the rainbowness of your hair and beams of technicolour light emitted
talk about physically capturing charisma
omg true nature of the city!
as if it wasn't fuck obvious everyone is going to die well
i kind of seen this coming but its sad to not be flinging my arms and squeeing (or whatever) because i am typing
okay fuck
eaten by clothes reminds me of those ecchi thing
let's drop it
fuck i quit
i need to swing my aarms so bad
cut at 12m
because kill la kill just isn't the same without anguish and acceptance of the insanity that is awesome
fuckyaallbitches let's rock nobody gives a shit
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I am really super pissed a random picture on Danbooru spoiled that for me yesterday. Otherwise I'd have been flipping my shit.
Also Mako hugged the shit out of Ryuuko. I am pleased.
Also there has not been nearly enough love being given to Papa Mankanshoku going all serious mode and standing up to Gamagoori without missing a beat. I cheered and cheered during that whole scene.
I got a bunch of Kefka vibes from Ragyo. She looked more like a clown than anything else on stage.
Yeah, my first response was "Oh shit, Ragyo about to drop some Light of Judgment."
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I HAVE A RAGING BONER OH MY GOD
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No gods, no masters.
NO GODS NO MASTERS
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(http://i.imgur.com/VKb0YBW.jpg)
I wonder if he used to be a shounen protagonist? Would explain how he got such a hot wife and had a kid like Mako.
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oh boy its time
SANAGEYAMA VS NUI REMATCH LETS FUCKING GO
OH FUCK
what
ryuko's hair is
WHAT
yes that's right nui
GET REKT
oh fuck
oh no
nononononostatsukiiiii
oh fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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WHAT
vaderpls
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No time to explain I got into the series.
Weaponized molestation is GO
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that episode was all sorts of
amazing yet wrong
ragyou you fucking scary
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jesus christ will the plot ever stop twisting
i-it really sucked to see satsuki beaten up ;-;;
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jesus christ will the plot ever stop twisting i-it really sucked to see satsuki beaten up ;-;;
ragyou ultimabitch :<
nui is small time in comparison
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Well I finally got around to watching this.
I got to like Ep3 and stopped. Not my sort of thing. I heard it was fanservicy and that turns me away usually but if this was much more it would be on the levels of stuff like Ikki Tousen [I'm exaggerateing a little but god the main character's battle outfit and the gratuitous pantyshots. IT turned me away after about 10 mins, this turned me away after 3 eps.]....
So yeah. I tried.
Also while I'm fine with crazy I like there to be at least some sense.
I will give it that the fight scenes are pretty good however.
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WHAT
yeah pretty much
although to be honest I'm kinda disappointed. I mean... plotwise what was even the point of Kinue now? I was 90% sure she was Ryuko's mother. Now seems she was made just to give Tsumugu some MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN. Oh well.
Otherwise, awesome ep. Ryuko freeing herself from Ragyou's control was utterly awesome. Nearly had a heart attack when I thought Iori died. Nui's worried face was delightful to see. I could barely look at the screen while Satsuki was getting the ever loving shit beat out of her. Ragyou's Junketsu is the best kamui so far.
...........i still goddamn ship ryuko x satsuki YOLOOO
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k theory time
its possible that ryukos dad is not dead since we didn't actually see him die and now we know he's was ragyous husband so its possible he fused himself with some life fibers at some point pr something. also the whole old man look was a disguise so he could easy pull a fake death
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crunchyroll
pls
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k theory time
its possible that ryukos dad is not dead since we didn't actually see him die and now we know he's was ragyous husband so its possible he fused himself with some life fibers at some point pr something. also the whole old man look was a disguise so he could easy pull a fake de
Maybe his mind is in Senketsu? People have been thinking that for a while. I for one don't mind this turn of events. I find the devas/Elite four more and the nudists far more interesting than Ryuko and Satsuki.
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k theory time
its possible that ryukos dad is not dead since we didn't actually see him die and now we know he's was ragyous husband so its possible he fused himself with some life fibers at some point pr something. also the whole old man look was a disguise so he could easy pull a fake death
Didn't we see he die in front of Ryuko on her flashback?
I'm thinking that maybe Ryuko and Satsuki's father went to the basement to retrieve Ryuko's remains after that experiment, found out that she was alive, and decided to leave her in the care of his father. Would explain why Isshin looks old enough to be Ryuko's grandfather.
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I knew this twist was really likely but it was still a hell of a way to end the episode. How long can this show go on for? There's technically half a season left.
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So my theories about Satsuki and Ryuuko
being sisters
were true. I rox. :V
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Nooo Satsuki! :ohdear:
Dat decapacitation though.
I wonder if Junketsu will rebel against Ragyou or something. It was made for Satsuki by her father so...
And we don't really know much about it.
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k theory time
its possible that ryukos dad is not dead since we didn't actually see him die and now we know he's was ragyous husband so its possible he fused himself with some life fibers at some point pr something. also the whole old man look was a disguise so he could easy pull a fake death
Maybe... or possibly he never was Ryuuko's real daddy? I'm still attached to the idea that Aikuro-sensei is the Kiryuin daddy.
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Maybe his mind is in Senketsu? People have been thinking that for a while. I for one don't mind this turn of events.
Maybe though JUST maybe , since every kamui cannot talk except senketsu
Maybe his mind is in Senketsu? People have been thinking that for a while. I for one don't mind this turn of events. I find the devas/Elite four more and the nudists far more interesting than Ryuko and Satsuki.
Never really though about that, but it is certainly Possible............IF only Junketsu was more like Senketsu being able to talk and isnt a Blood-Thirsty Kamui , but its all theory
Didn't we see he die in front of Ryuko on her flashback?
I'm thinking that maybe Ryuko and Satsuki's father went to the basement to retrieve Ryuko's remains after that experiment, found out that she was alive, and decided to leave her in the care of his father. Would explain why Isshin looks old enough to be Ryuko's grandfather.
Wait im sketchy what episode was that flashback?
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Wait im sketchy what episode was that flashback?
Episode 8.
Hm, re-watching it, it didn't actually show him dying (Ryuko momentarily leaves him to go after his killer , then when she's outside, the house explodes and the flashback ends), so maybe Suikama is onto something here.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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May I just add on the side note how absolutely unfitting the end theme is? I mean, what do you get after
seeing Ragyo ripping Ryuko's heart out and saying she's her second born daughter?
HAPPY MUSIC OF COURSE!
And from the preview of the next episode, Do you think that COVER suits actually need a human to exist base on that shrunken head on one of them?[/spoiler}
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I think that the "shrunken heads" you mentioned are instead "human tributes" to the Life Fibers -- just depleted of their...well...life
Also, now I understand why Ryouko had such better synch with Senketsu. Although now that we know that Ragyou and Ryouko are both fused with life fibers (which let Senketsu talk to Ryouko), do you think now Junketsu will get a voice?
Not related to the episode, but now that we know why Ryouko and Senketsu (and now Ragyou and Junketsu) can achieve complete synchronization, do you think it'd be possible for Ryouko to use Junketsu? Or are the Life Fibers in Senketsu specifically linked to Ryouko (meaning no cross-usage?)
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May I just add on the side note how absolutely unfitting the end theme is? I mean, what do you get after seeing Ragyo ripping Ryuko's heart out and saying she's her second born daughter?
HAPPY MUSIC OF COURSE!
Sometimes, I love it when shows do this sort of thing. In this case, I'm not a huge fan, but it didn't really bother me all the same.
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Episode 8.
Hm, re-watching it, it didn't actually show him dying (Ryuko momentarily leaves him to go after his killer , then when she's outside, the house explodes and the flashback ends), so maybe Suikama is onto something here.
Actually Matoi was Ryuuko's Adoptive Father
.
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But the thing is
he's a super scientist that's an expert in life fibers and Satsuki's dad is also a super scientist that's an expert in life fibers, so it's more likely this means that they're the same person.
Also since Satsuki's sword broke, that means that eventually she's probably gonna wield the purple scissor blade
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But the thing is he's a super scientist that's an expert in life fibers and Satsuki's dad is also a super scientist that's an expert in life fibers, so it's more likely this means that they're the same person.
No, they're not the same person.
Isshin Matoi was confirmed dead, and as regarded a different person by Aikuro. Sōichirō is also confirmed dead, because when Ryuuko was around the same age as Satsuki, Sōichirō was still alive, given the fact that Satsuki was given Junketsu by his father, and around that time Ryuuko was already adopted by Isshin. It was confirmed by Satsuki, Ragyo and his men killed Sōichirō.
But who knows...
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Knowing how this anime loves its twists I will not believe in a single death until we see the goddamn body in full display tbh
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And from the preview of the next episode, Do you think that COVER suits actually need a human to exist base on that shrunken head on one of them?[/spoiler}
Adding to this is that , in the preview ,we see two sillouetes running across the screen , one being taller and one being shorter , is it right to speculate that this is satsuki and ryouko?
(http://i61.tinypic.com/aphzr.png)
Also since Satsuki's sword broke, that means that eventually she's probably gonna wield the purple scissor blade
Hmm, thats a big pull since we didnt see ryuko claiming the blade from Nui , or We didnt See Nui's hands after the battle to make sure that she dosent have the blade anymore , and im pretty sure Ragyo interrupted their fight to you know, pull her heart out
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Adding to this is that , in the preview ,we see two sillouetes running across the screen , one being taller and one being shorter , is it right to speculate that this is satsuki and ryouko?
(http://i61.tinypic.com/aphzr.png)
Hmm, thats a big pull since we didnt see ryuko claiming the blade from Nui , or We didnt See Nui's hands after the battle to make sure that she dosent have the blade anymore , and im pretty sure Ragyo interrupted their fight to you know, pull her heart out
i said eventually, like in the last episode or something :derp:
also the second shadow looks like Guts
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>'senketsu has to fight his brethren I feel so bad for him'
>matoi has literally been doing that the entire show
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Yalls overlooking the best parts of this episode.
A. Iori's a braveass man.
B. Satsuki's Butler is fucking hoss.
C. Ragyo is a scrapper, hell fucking yes.
I am very slightly saddened that Ryuuko and Satsuki didn't fistfight a bit before Ryuuko regained control, because I was just hoping to see her pitch Satsuki a bareknuckle owning. Given Satsuki has been swording it up the whole time, I was predicting she'd never been in a scrap, and that was her weakness.[/spolier]
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I hope that next episode shows more of Rei. She shows she can actually fight, but she never got that much of a chance to show how much she can do.
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I hope that next episode shows more of Rei. She shows she can actually fight, but she never got that much of a chance to show how much she can do.
I was initially somewhat dissapointed by her apparent lack of showy fight moves, since she has basically "phoenix" in her name and all... but then I noticed her fighting style involves making her arms look somewhat like wings and she seems to just come back to life out of nowhere since she appears to be killed at least twice in the episode. That was pretty neat, I think.
But yeah, hope she gets more screen time in the next episodes.
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I thought Rei could not fight at all, but guess I was wrong. She seemed to be rather strong too, despite how little screen time she got.
Also, it'd be cool to see Ryuuko and Satsuki joining the Red and Purple blades into a single weapon near the end. Then I can picture Ryuuko holding the Scissors' Red handle, and Satsuki holding the Purple one. Afterwards they'd slide the two blades together at the same time, thus severing Ragyo's main life fiber. That would be an interesting way to kill her.
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"the plot of kill la kill is two sisters trying to scissor their mom"
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"the plot of kill la kill is two sisters trying to scissor their mom"
:colonveeplusalpha:
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Started watching the anime and it's freakin awesome! I like how they have their funny moments with Mako. :D
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i said eventually, like in the last episode or something :derp:
also the second shadow looks like Guts
I could definetly see that B) , but im still curious what satsuki will be using as a weapon now before she will be using the purple one since she dosent have her sword anymore
Huh......maybe i printscreened a little to early XD but i assure you thats a human scrap that ,its guts and mataro
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Some of the doujinshi artists that made Ryuko x Satsuki doujinshi must be feeling pretty weird right now.
..but I'm sure not a few are all "Hell yeah!"
Also: Next plot twist, the real parent (http://duraigo.tumblr.com/post/76606101546/wait-wait-hold-up-im-lost-and-i-need-some-answers) of Ryuko and Satsuki.
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Also: Next plot twist,
the real parent (http://duraigo.tumblr.com/post/76606101546/wait-wait-hold-up-im-lost-and-i-need-some-answers) of Ryuko and Satsuki.
Reminder that Mikisugi did have a Ziggy Stardust outfit while he was discussing the evolution of clothes.
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Some of the doujinshi artists that made Ryuko x Satsuki doujinshi must be feeling pretty weird right now.
Slowly adds incest
tag to every doujin
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Why is this show so much better than everything else on right now? I mean that both in a "Why can't all anime be this compelling?" and a "What exactly about this show do I find so compelling?" way.
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What sets KLK apart is the breakneck pace, there is crazy shit happening in every episode. It's not particularly well-written or anything, but it doesn't take itself too seriously, it's always moving, and it's incredibly unpredictable.
Most shows are about half fluff. KLK has, what, two fluff episodes? (Get to school and fight club Mako?) Both of which are hilarious?
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I wouldn't say that Fight club Mako was fluff, since sets up the stage for the Naturals Election and gives some development for Mako and her family, but episode 4 was certainly unnecessary as hell
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I remember the first 8 episodes being varying degrees of "why is this episode here" so much that I felt like I was watching an old cartoon. It was never bad as a fun-time-of-the-week thing, though, but I could see it being annoying for future viewers.
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I think the problem is that for all of the "crazy shit" that's happened, a lot of it hasn't had a lot of impact on the plot. Tsumugu and Nui should have been bigger game changers than what they were.
When I think about it,
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Just to remind everyone, for those who know that secret on the episode where Mako became 2-Star Fight Club Mako. After episode 19, two more episodes until we finally know if
Mako truly dies
. >Do not hover over the spoiler unless you do/want to know.<
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I will be honest here,
Which character has the least likeable chance of dying?
I say Hoka. I just cannot think of any death flags related to him.
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What sets KLK apart is the breakneck pace, there is crazy shit happening in every episode. It's not particularly well-written or anything, but it doesn't take itself too seriously, it's always moving, and it's incredibly unpredictable.
Most shows are about half fluff. KLK has, what, two fluff episodes? (Get to school and fight club Mako?) Both of which are hilarious?
True enough. The way it's structured is very well-suited for TV. Do you think it'll watch better or worse once it's all out and available for marathon viewing?
I think the problem is that for all of the "crazy shit" that's happened, a lot of it hasn't had a lot of impact on the plot. Tsumugu and Nui should have been bigger game changers than what they were.
When I think about it,
True, and has been discussed before (particularly Tsumugu, why is he even really in the show?). However, show not over. I assume they'll get their due somehow.
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True, and has been discussed before (particularly Tsumugu, why is he even really in the show?). However, show not over. I assume they'll get their due somehow.
Because Tsumugu has the same VA as Kamina. Probably a reference in a way.I think the problem is that for all of the "crazy shit" that's happened, a lot of it hasn't had a lot of impact on the plot. Tsumugu and Nui should have been bigger game changers than what they were.
When I think about it,
You don't need to see much of Tsumugu and Nui. And really? You thought they were game changers? A lot of people expected more of Sanageyama. The show's fast-paced, as to be expected, the plot's the same thru-out, but with an added spice...srz aliens(again), and that's pretty much it. It's better this way, than dealing like what? 5 Episodes of DBZ just seeing Goku charge his spirit bomb.
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As much as I like Nui, she's basically a plot device to a) have someone that makes sense to have killed Isshin (Ragyo doesn't seem to like personally getting her hands dirty, Rei doesn't look strong enough to take the guy, and Satsuki doesn't seem the kind of person that does such shady jobs), b) piss Ryuko off enough to show us what an out-of-control kamui looks like, and c) be the ultra-powerful villain that makes everyone shit their pants in the fist half of the series, only to get trounced in the second half to show just how much the protagonist has evolved (we already got some of this in ep 18).
Tsumugu is indeed pointless so far, but considering that there's still 7 episodes to go and that the next ep seems to focus more on the Nudists and the Elite 4, it's likely he'll have some importance to the plot before it all ends.
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Speaking of Tsumugu, I bet those Tailor's Gloves and Dagger will play a part on something (probably in something dramatic). Just the fact that they introduced the whole dang thing to a guy who primarily prefers long range just screams "Remember this for later".
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Speaking of Tsumugu, I bet those Tailor's Gloves and Dagger will play a part on something (probably in something dramatic). Just the fact that they introduced the whole dang thing to a guy who primarily prefers long range just screams "Remember this for later".
Yeah, I went into the most recent episode with that in mind but by the end I had forgotten about it. Somebody will end up doing something to someone with it, but I wouldn't necessarily assume that it will be Tsumugu fighting Ragyou.
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I think Tsumugu is on the show just to add another "captain" to the Nudist Beach forces. Come to think about it, Aikuro alone would feel a bit empty.
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Extended episode 19 preview (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cekvf)
Monkey-man has 50/50 chance of death.
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Tsumugu exists for a few reasons, actually, you just have to look at the whole picture. One is as Synnae says, to add a bit more meat to Nudist Beach, so that it's not just one guy + faceless extras. Another was to show that Nudist Beach was supposed to be regarded as something other than a crazy teacher rambling about silly shit in the early episodes, and to show that they can achieve shit and actually be a thorn in the side to Hounnoji and REVOCs, to some degree. A third reason was to make him a fakeout rival. He was never meant to be a game changer, but rather a circumstance of the game itself.
Also, speaking as someone who jumped in about halfway through the Naturals Election, the early episodes flow nicely enough when not viewed with a week between them. The over the topness and humor hook one very quickly and keep you wanting more. This is why the "filler" episodes work, actually, because they provide some extra humor and a little distraction from the main plotline for just long enough that they don't wear out their welcome. The fight club episode, in particular, is important because Ryuuko did give the Mankanskoku family a way to advance themselves, and it would have been a waste not to look into it. Not to mention that Fight Club Mako was the best thing and she needs to come back.
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New Episode is out let's rock BV
NO MAKO NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OMG NUDIST NONON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
meanwhile nudist Inamuta still has a turtleneck rofl
fucking hell ragyou
HA I WAS RIGHT
omg gamagoori
this is definitely canon now huh
nonon's faces tho
(http://i.imgur.com/RrHENoS.png) :smugnonon:
WELL FUCK
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This show is the best thing. I'm also certain that the ending song is 100% fitting now.
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meanwhile satsuki is still the best
sister
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And in the end,
Ryuko lost her way and ended up in the road of Edge la Edgy
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dat loli ryuko tho (http://i.imgur.com/ldUGBVb.jpg)
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:3 Gamagoori.
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dat loli ryuko tho (http://i.imgur.com/ldUGBVb.jpg)
Looks the goddamn same. Lamers.
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In before they find some way to get Mako into Senketsu
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And in the end, Ryuko lost her way and ended up in the road of Edge la Edgy
Satsuki: Gets trapped in a rape cage. Still plans on how to overthrow Ragyou.
Ryuko: Is rescued by friends. Everyone is safe. Still loses her way.
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In before they find some way to get Mako into Senketsu
Low-tier
They find a way to give Senketsu a body
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Low-tier
They find a way to give Senketsu a body
DOTONBORI ROBO
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i hope satsuki decks ryuko like kamina did
CLENCH YOUR TEEETTTHHHHHHHHH
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That'd be great.
Anything with Satsuki in it is great. I don't know when it happened but she's suddenly my favorite character.
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Well the entire plot up to this point was driven by her. Ryuko is pretty much a side character in comparison :derp:
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Well the entire plot up to this point was driven by her. Ryuko is pretty much a side character in comparison :derp:
I'm sure all the nude people drive the, uh, plot together.
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This moment (http://i.imgur.com/Ux9BvjO.gif) in particular though.
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Gama x Mako is best thing <3333
Also... seeing Ryuuko reject Senketsu at the end was kinda heartbreaking for me, especially because how he went in shock after that... ?-?
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Can I say that Senketsu is the most adorable piece of clothing ever?
I came here specifically to see Suikama's reactions to the MakoxGamagoori in the episode
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DOTONBORI ROBO
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/6f3fd1dd13b37da1c6f12a4696d79c19/tumblr_n1bfugH3n11tql0o6o1_500.gif)
Is it just me or was the animation for this episode equivalent to Episode 4 in terms of quality?
Then again I guess they've blown their budget on eps 17 and 18.
Good episode overall, although I'm sad to see the latest three stars uniforms gone with such little screen time. Hopefully they'll get remended near the end.
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Can anyone tell me the significance of this?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2j3r285.png)
does this mean satsuki is a life fiber induced human like ryuko
too?
Also... seeing Ryuuko reject Senketsu at the end was kinda heartbreaking for me, especially because how he went in shock after that... ?-?
Try remembering that while looking at this
(http://i60.tinypic.com/vrg93p.jpg)
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This moment (http://i.imgur.com/Ux9BvjO.gif) in particular though.
She want's the D :]
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Can anyone tell me the significance of this?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2j3r285.png)
does this mean satsuki is a life fiber induced human like ryuko
too?
My thoughts were "oh, metallic, she's gonna bust outta there".
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Well son of a bitch,
Ryuko's dads are the same dude after all
. Not sure if there's a point to that, but I assume there will be if there isn't?
Also, Gamagoori continues to be my favorite character. No surprises there. I wish we could've seen him try to fight with that tiny sword for a second though.
Can anyone tell me the significance of this?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2j3r285.png)
does this mean satsuki is a life fiber induced human like ryuko
too?
I didn't think that was in question.
Do we know what happened to Junketsu? I don't remember.
Maybe Satsuki will get him back
and when she puts him on he'll be all metallic grey now
and then she'll Inazuma Kick Ragyou
and then cross her arms
and I'll stop watching there because the show will have achieved completion.
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Can anyone tell me the significance of this?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2j3r285.png)
does this mean satsuki is a life fiber induced human like ryuko
too?
I'm thinking that her toenail might be made from a material similar to her sword, and she's going to use that in some way to escape either the prison or her enslavement(?)
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Goddamnit Ragyo, that's not funny anymore.
And fuck alls yalls, Ryuuko x Mako is canon forever. >=|
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Ragyo x Original Life Fibre OTP
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i hope satsuki decks ryuko like kamina did
CLENCH YOUR TEEETTTHHHHHHHHH
Do we know what happened to Junketsu? I don't remember.
Maybe Satsuki will get him back
and when she puts him on he'll be all metallic grey now
and then she'll Inazuma Kick Ragyou
and then cross her arms
and I'll stop watching there because the show will have achieved completion.
oh my god please all of this
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also its funny how ryuko told satsuki she's alone when ryuko has had only 2 friends her entire life (who she now rejects) while satsuki has nonon as a best friend since kindergarden, her butler since birth, iori, and all the rest of the elite four.
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senketsu got ntr'd by a blanket
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Yalls way too hard on Ryuuko. She literally had her heart ripped out, learned she's a horrible alien hybrid, learned her nemesis is her sister, and then spent a month in a horrific coma with nightmares she couldn't wake up from. And she's been awake for like two and a half minutes.
Let her get some coffee and shake out the cobwebs a bit.
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Yalls way too hard on Ryuuko. She literally had her heart ripped out, learned she's a horrible alien hybrid, learned her nemesis is her sister, and then spent a month in a horrific coma with nightmares she couldn't wake up from. And she's been awake for like two and a half minutes.
Let her get some coffee and shake out the cobwebs a bit.
This please. Satsuki had more than a decade to prepare for what just happened. Ryuuko wasn't afforded that much. At 2/3rds of the way through the series, this marks the first time Satsuki didn't pull the entire plot out of her tailpipe and it's more fun to watch that way.
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The problem in the end is not the concept but the execution. You can be all broken about everything what has been revealed to you, but just openly raging at some one is another.
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That's what being broken is, holmes.
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episode 20 time yassssss
welp 60 seconds in and it's already nui time
oh sweet they added the NB uniforms to the OP :3
sanageyama has three guns in his crotch in place of his old triple spike belt...
WAY STATUS: completely lost
>sad music
>ryuko rides off naked on a dick shaped motorcycle
good ol trigger
OMG ITS ZENI MAN AHAHAH YESSSSSSSSSS
wait what how did mako get her normal clothes back
oh shit we fighting ragyou already? damn there are no brakes on the klk hype train
OH FUCK
OH SHIT OH SHIT
JUNKETSU RYUKO INCOMINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
DARK MATOI RISES
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clothes and the people wearing them getting ntr'd: the anime
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YES
YES YES YES YES YES YES
BASED FUCKING TRIGGER
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My goodness, inverted Satsuki and Ryuuko!
:o
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Omg Ryuuko's face after the memory rewrite was pretty soul crushing.
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Wait.
If Nui is made of life fibers, how was Isshin able to permanently cut her eye off? Ryuko just stabbed her with her half of the scissor and it did nothing.
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nui was secretly isshin all along
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nui was secretly isshin all along
nui is everyone's father
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Wait.
If Nui is made of life fibers, how was Isshin able to permanently cut her eye off? Ryuko just stabbed her with her half of the scissor and it did nothing.
I was also wondering about this. Maybe that's because Isshin used the full scissors, but that's just a guess.
Also, I think Isshin/Soichiro is also a life fiber monster. I mean, if even Ryuuko has trouble against Nui, then how come a decrepit, old human man would be able to put up a fight against her?
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I was also wondering about this. Maybe that's because Isshin used the full scissors, but that's just a guess.
Also, I think Isshin/Soichiro is also a life fiber monster. I mean, if even Ryuuko has trouble against Nui, then how come a decrepit, old human man would be able to put up a fight against her?
I don't think that's the case , soichiro was a young man who made himself look like an old man as seen in the flashback
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I was also wondering about this. Maybe that's because Isshin used the full scissors, but that's just a guess.
I thought so too at first, but then I rewatched the flashback, and it clearly shows that he cut her eye using only one half of the scissor (the one that Ryuko's using, even, as you can see from the smaller handle) (http://s1.postimg.org/iedci4b0f/Sem_t_tulo.png).
Also, I think Isshin/Soichiro is also a life fiber monster. I mean, if even Ryuuko has trouble against Nui, then how come a decrepit, old human man would be able to put up a fight against her?
I wouldn't really call what happened there "putting up a fight"; Nui wasn't taking him seriously at all during their duel, and the only thing he managed to do was land a lucky strike on her when she was momentarily distracted. And at any rate, he was using a life fiber lab coat; maybe it was like a kamui and it enhanced his abilities.
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I'm kind of disappointed in myself for not seeing this scenario coming. Now that I think about it it would have been dumb for them not to
costume swap
at some point.
I wouldn't really call what happened there "putting up a fight"; Nui wasn't taking him seriously at all during their duel, and the only thing he managed to do was land a lucky strike on her when she was momentarily distracted. And at any rate, he was using a life lab coat; maybe it was like a kamui and it enhanced his abilities.
Maybe she gets better at using her abilities with time. There doesn't seem to be a good reason she can't just grow a new eye any time, but at that point she might not have been able to.
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Way status:
[ ] Lost
[ ] Not Lost
[X] WAY LOST
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Awesome, it's just like my fanfictions.
Ragyou fucked up, she wasn't marrying Mako in the fake memory.
Also note it only took Mako speaking up to calm down Ryuuko beforehand.
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Way status:
[ ] Lost
[ ] Not Lost
[X] WAY LOST
[X] NO WAY
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SATSUKI
WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE GONE UP THE ELEVATOR IN THE GUNBUSTER POSE
PLS
Wait.
If Nui is made of life fibers, how was Isshin able to permanently cut her eye off? Ryuko just stabbed her with her half of the scissor and it did nothing.
I suspect it's the same way Nui disabled Sanageyama's goku uniform in one hit - knowledge of life fibers. All Ryuko does is swing her scissor around; there's almost certainly a technique to permanently destroying them.
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I suspect it's the same way Nui disabled Sanageyama's goku uniform in one hit - knowledge of life fibers. All Ryuko does is swing her scissor around; there's almost certainly a technique to permanently destroying them.
Adding to that is that Life Fiber Infused Humans need to have All their Life Fibers cut because just like ragyou , She can still regenerate even after having her neck cut off because of one sole thread , and ryuuko just stabbed nui she didn't move it all around and around to make sure that no Life fibers are left XD , although in ragyou's case Satsuki used Bakuzan and Ryuuko use the scissor blade for Nui , which is the weapon for cutting life fibers or disable their power (e.i isshin's lab coat) , so nui was was supposedly not able to survive that hit.
But I guess trigger want her to stay to piss us off even more _ _ll
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I think the real revelation about Nui is that she's
not actually French.
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I think the real revelation about Nui is that she's not actually French.
she has a japanese name and only spoke french once
why would you even think she was french
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Are you trying to tell me Asuka isn't a German name?
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what the hell is an Asuka
e: wait a minute
you guys don't think...
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/461022f9c7574c05011611f8fc5511e6/tumblr_n1qjnjAmvT1rpbzfso1_500.jpg)
hmmmmmm...
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/5fa77d3ea6906acb84a7b9fd34be7f73/tumblr_n1qjnjAmvT1rpbzfso2_500.jpg)
..........
Nah, I say it's just a red herring.
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Wait.
If Nui is made of life fibers, how was Isshin able to permanently cut her eye off? Ryuko just stabbed her with her half of the scissor and it did nothing.
obviously she could've regenerated it but ragyo forced her to keep the wound as punishment for her carelessness, like that goblin leader guy in order of the stick
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I will die laughing if the actual reason is "because eyepatches are fashionaaabluh"
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So pumped to watch da 20'th episode!
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/215b7f3dffa5794f7af5e53c1277e1ec/tumblr_mskzdhk9ym1soumqco1_400.gif)
I really can't wait. . . . .
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The problem in the end is not the concept but the execution. You can be all broken about everything what has been revealed to you, but just openly raging at some one is another.
As much as I like the series, I have a whole lot of questions about the execution of the series as a whole, unfortunately.
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IT'S THAT TIME OF WEEK AGAIN!
And ye gods... it's just too good to be true.
Ryuko's WAY status: back on track
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goddammit ragyou it hasnt even been 1 second
so many lesbians
WHAT
SO MANY LESBIANS
omg ryuko has bounce combos
is this hnk?!
MAKOOOO
s-so much blood ;w;
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See, I really want to complain about cliffhangers, but no matter where these episodes stop they're ALWAYS CLIFFHANGERS.
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oh my god they actually did it
they actually fucking did it
they plot justified why the outfits are so skimpy
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Haha wow that episode
Does anyone else think Ryuuko is going to pass out from blood loss? She forcibly ripped Junketsu off herself, and is made it rain so much of her own blood that she's covered in it...Although I was most surprised by Mako; I thought Ryuuko was too far gone for Mako to bring her back.
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this basically happened and didnt happen at the same time (https://31.media.tumblr.com/461022f9c7574c05011611f8fc5511e6/tumblr_n1qjnjAmvT1rpbzfso1_500.jpg)
well played trigger
also dat high five
(http://fat.gfycat.com/ValuableParchedAnemoneshrimp.gif)
also way2lewd [nsfw]http://i.imgur.com/eUTKJlm.gif[/nsfw]
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Made me realize that Iori is rocking the Nudist Beach uniform, under the coat.
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What do we know about Bakuzan at this point? I can't remember how much it was discussed in the earlier parts of the series. As far as I know it's a sword Satsuki had made out of... something, to do... something. Just be a kind of good sword I guess? Was it a failed attempt at something like the scissor blade? Or maybe a successful one and we just haven't seen it do its thing yet? Do we know who made it for her? Maybe old man Mattoi did? Did Satsuki know who he actually was and was she in contact with him?
This is all stuff that may have been covered and I just forgot. I should re-watch everything, but I don't really have the time and I know I'm just going to want to do it again after the finale anyway.
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Bakuzan was always just... there. It was never addressed why it's so sharp, but I suppose the explanation is just "Satsuki used money to forge herself a superweapon". The only thing we know about it is that it's sharp enough to cut a kamui, and sharp enough to cut almost all the threads that connect Ragyou's head to her body.
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This is borderline hentai...
AND I LOVE IT
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Fuck me Plot keeps getting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out and keeps getting back in all the time XD
Ok first of , Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn , satsuki does awesome combos
second how the hell is senketsu still complete when ryuuko litteraly snapped him open with the scissor blade
also WTF these weapons are as fucked up as the ones in RWBY XDDD
[nsfw]http://i58.tinypic.com/213oxfm.png[/nsfw]
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You can "spoiler tag" images by using the nsfw tag, by the way.
Also, holy shit that episode.
I still love Nui though.
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oh god
I almost had a heart attack when Ryuuko tried to slice Mako and all that blood came out
Also, Nui took Ryuuko's first kiss AAAAAAAAAAAAA (well actually Ryuuko was the one who kissed but still :V)
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Oh man time for more black text.
I was totally expecting Ryuuko to bite off Nui's tongue with that kiss, and have a lovely "No one fucks with Ryuuko" moment.
Also hell yes, why can't you usually be like this Ryuuko? "It's hard to look down on people when you're in the dirt, ain't it?" should have been said at Satsuki episodes ago. As well, it shows again that Satsuki just can't scrap, I want a looped gif of that whole beatdown. Only the high five has eclipsed this for me. ONE PERCENT GET HIT!
This episode gave me everything I wanted; Satsuki getting decisively beaten down and then Mako adding to the list of things that do not get in her way when she sees what she wants.
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Relevant to the entire series but especially yesterday's episode (http://25.media.tumblr.com/25d3911c5d3ace119bc7669d17aa6f19/tumblr_n22qprndtP1s5vkbno1_1280.jpg)
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Girl has to remind herself.
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Also, Nui took Ryuuko's first kiss AAAAAAAAAAAAA (well actually Ryuuko was the one who kissed but still :V)
Nui/Ryuuko 4evah
although I'm pretty sure Nui dies in the next episode. Sigh. At least I can brag that my ship got the only on-screen kiss :getdown:
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no please don't kill nui ;_;
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no please don't kill nui ;_;
^^^^
Though I still have this passion, aggression toward her. >.>
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^^^^
Though I still have this passion, aggression toward her. >.>
"love and hate are two sides of the same coin,"
Harime Nui
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Relevant to the entire series but especially yesterday's episode (http://25.media.tumblr.com/25d3911c5d3ace119bc7669d17aa6f19/tumblr_n22qprndtP1s5vkbno1_1280.jpg)
i did it (http://i.imgur.com/1dYNQal.jpg)
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i did it (http://i.imgur.com/1dYNQal.jpg)
Bonus points for drawing the way with a life fiber.
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I figured it would just be a big red line directly connecting ryuuko and senketsu, because that's more or less how the show operates
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Hey man there were a few forks in the path!
(there aren't very many actual dead-ends)
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"love and hate are two sides of the same coin,"
Harime Nui
Exactly. (How did I forget this?)
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I just watched the ep now (was a bit slow, I know)
that Ryuuko x Nui kiss was my favorite part. So sexy~ <3
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Lordy lordy did this episode need to happen. One more episode of Satsuki Sue and the series would've been worse off for it. I had nearly completely checked out but the episode had so much catharsis to it. It wasn't perfect, but it was a big step in the right direction.
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If I understand correctly, Satsuki has no super powers that we know of, right? Throughout most of the series I had been thinking that it was weird that the character that we've been lead to believe should be way stronger than Ryuko is just barely keeping up with her or worse, but if Ryuko has extra powers plus a Kamui I guess it makes sense that she keeps winning despite having less training, less experience, and fewer resources. That explains that, unless I misunderstood a detail somewhere.
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If I understand correctly, Satsuki has no super powers that we know of, right? Throughout most of the series I had been thinking that it was weird that the character that we've been lead to believe should be way stronger than Ryuko is just barely keeping up with her or worse, but if Ryuko has extra powers plus a Kamui I guess it makes sense that she keeps winning despite having less training, less experience, and fewer resources. That explains that, unless I misunderstood a detail somewhere.
She's been keeping up through sheer virtue of charisma and the good ol' don't-let-them-see-you-bleed strat. Junketsu fucked her up after every usage, as we saw.
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It's because she syncs with life fibers way better than Satsuki does. For obvious reasons.
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So I just realized Gamagoori didn't get his driver's license until he was like 20.
Anyways, I'm personally okay with Satsuki being awesome because she's Satsuki. But at the same time, it was very pleasing to see her weakness toward fistfighting manifest again.
Also this this now canon: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1633675?pool_id=8079
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Also this this now canon: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1633675?pool_id=8079
I can't help hearing it as this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDDJh-C4nKI#t=16).
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HYPE LA HYPE TAIMU
dammit ryuko you just had to throw your scissor blade at nui and give her the entire thing didnt you
"FUCK YO ARMS"
omg gamgoori pls
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THEY'RE BAAAAACCCCKKKKK
THANK YOU BASED TRIGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
aaand Nui confirmed for Rin
OMG GAMAGOORI PLS
>tfw when everyone is a big family now
;_____;
WHAT
DOC OCK IS THAT YOU!?
omg she tried to say ne-san hnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggg
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Something crunchyroll, something where is it, something mrgrgr
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OH MY FUCKING GOD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THE BEST FUCKING ENDING POSSIBLE
TRIGGEERRRRRRRRAAAAAADSOSAJDOIAWDJAWDIOJ
also gamagoori pls [nsfw]http://i.imgur.com/WWhCY2F.jpg[/nsfw] (spoiler)
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Where are my clothes. I can't find my clothes. I think they disintegrated.
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Suikama everytime you post on this thread before the sub is released I stg I have the urge to rip your brain off and implant it in my head so I can understand the raws
Suikama please lend me your brain
plz
plz
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To understand the plot, just use this simple template!
Pick one
[ ] Life fibers
[ ] Satsuki's shady new uniform
[ ] Nui is trolling Ryuko again
[ ] It's a REVOCS conspiracy
(i dont understand japanese either but kill la kill isnt exactly a complex show :derp:)
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(i dont understand japanese either
Oh
but kill la kill isnt exactly a complex show :derp:)
Yes but not understaing what people are saying grates on my nerves like nothing else
guess I'll just steal someone else's brain
or wait for translations I guess
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well the subs are out now so :derp:
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yep
just watched it
i lost my voice from how much i screamed
e: but I still don't understand why Nui can't regenerate her eyes or arms but could regenerate being impaled. Like, the only different thing was that Ryuuko and Isshin (well he was holding the blade that was impaling him when he striked Nui) were dual wielding the scissors when they inflicted the former injuries. Is that the secret? Dual wielding the scissors?
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yep
just watched it
i lost my voice from how much i screamed
e: but I still don't understand why Nui can't regenerate her arms but could regenerate being impaled. Like, the only different thing was the Ryuuko was dual wielding the scissors when she inflicted the former injuries. Is that alone enough?
Maybe it's because her arms were completely severed while being impaled still left her room to regenerate.[/spoilers]
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I started smiling when
Ryuko and Satsuki transformed and tag-teamed to get to Honnouji Academy.
Then I squeed when Mako got her fight club uniform back.
HALLELUJAH!
Great episode overall. Man, watching this on simulcast is torture; too many cliffhangers.
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OH GOD
TRIGGER YES
OH GOD I CAN'T ANYMORE
YOU CAN'T END AN EPISODE BETTER THAN THAT NOW.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Best episode in series. Everything in this episode was my favorite thing. Now if Ryuko and Satsuki can just worked in a Double Inazuma Kick that'll be the drop in the bucket that pushes the whole thing over the edge to Best TV There Is.
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Iori best male 2014 just overtook sanageyama
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This had one of the major things I needed. Now I am happy.
Ryuuko: Okay, Satsuki. Every time you gt punched, you go down like a scrub. So until you build up your endurance enough to take a goddamn punch, you can't roll with us. ...GODDAMNIT IRA!
Also Fight Club Mako is back, and I am pleased. And it was neat to see Sanageyama revert back to his old hotblood self from his newer blind master persona.
ALSO THAT COVER HAS TWO FACES. WHAT CAN THEY DO ABOUT TWO FACES?!?!
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THIS IS SO FUCKING AWESOME I CANNOT EVEN BELIEVE IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
YELLING IN REAL LIFE AAAAAAAAAAAA
OH MY GOOOODDDDDDDD AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Super curious if they're still gonna use Decapitation mode for the half-circle blade. The circle blade's double scythe doesn't fit it at all if you try to mesh them.
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Iori best male 2014 just overtook sanageyama
I don't know about that, but he did put a small dent in Gamagoori's campaign.
Has Iori been a three-star this whole time? And has he had the last uniform for the last month or whatever and chose never to use it in combat, potentially saving many lives? What a dick/cool guy. Maybe it can't fight, but this is Kill La Kill, so it can. Maybe he did and we just didn't see it.
Three-star uniforms for Mikisugi, the Mankanshokus, and maybe the butler now please?
Guts Regalia.
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Has Iori been a three-star this whole time? And has he had the last uniform for the last month or whatever and chose never to use it in combat, potentially saving many lives? What a dick/cool guy. Maybe it can't fight, but this is Kill La Kill, so it can. Maybe he did and we just didn't see it.
I think so, yes. And while maybe it can fight (although I don't think it was made for that), I think he was saving it just for this occasion, when he is in a position to make a LOT of goku uniforms very quickly. Imagine if he had used it to the point of breaking it down; they'd be in quite a terrible situation now, with leviathan!COVERS attacking and no Fight Club!Mako and, soon, all the other people that will use the uniforms.
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I marathoned this series a couple of weeks ago, but nothing made me want to post until now. Best episode yet by far! I seriously don't have a favorite moment, I was screaming from beginning to end and laughing and crying and aaaaaaaaah!
My feeling has been that Nui will be the final boss for a while now, and I'm more sure than ever. Then again, Rei (the secretary) has done nothing up until now, and isn't afraid to tell off Nui, so maybe there's something there... Either way Ragyo's going down next episode.
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For some reason, the sight of
Nui using her teeth to work on their project
reminds me of a particularly irate hamster.
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MAKO YES
YES ALL OF MY EVERYTHING
SHE'S BACK
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OH MY GOD THIS ANIME
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Super curious if they're still gonna use Decapitation mode for the half-circle blade. The circle blade's double scythe doesn't fit it at all if you try to mesh them.
I don't think she will form the two scissors to become one blade , I think she will just dual wield them , because scissoring stuff just doesn't fit ryuuko
Has Iori been a three-star this whole time? And has he had the last uniform for the last month or whatever and chose never to use it in combat, potentially saving many lives? What a dick/cool guy. Maybe it can't fight, but this is Kill La Kill, so it can. Maybe he did and we just didn't see it.
I don't think that's how it is , Three Star Uniforms are given only to the Four Devas , and since presidents of clubs only get two stars , Iori was a two star back then , but he just went and made himself
(he IS the sewing club president afterall) a three star unifom to make work much quicker
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I don't think that's how it is , Three Star Uniforms are given only to the Four Devas , and since presidents of clubs only get two stars , Iori was a two star back then , but he just went and made himself
(he IS the sewing club president afterall) a three star unifom to make work much quicker
But when he'd have had the time to do so? He didn't have any access to Life Fibers after the events of Ep. 18, and I really really doubt he'd have made it behind Satsuki's back/without her permission back when Hounnuji was intact. He and his uncle were the only ones, outside of the Elite 4, that knew Satuski's plan; it's not stretch to say that he was a special case and Satsuki allowed him to have a 3 star uniforms. Note that the 3rd star was hidden, so as to keep apperances that he was just a normal club president.
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But when he'd have had the time to do so? He didn't have any access to Life Fibers after the events of Ep. 18, and I really really doubt he'd have made it behind Satsuki's back/without her permission back when Hounnuji was intact. He and his uncle were the only ones, outside of the Elite 4, that knew Satuski's plan; it's not stretch to say that he was a special case and Satsuki allowed him to have a 3 star uniforms. Note that the 3rd star was hidden, so as to keep apperances that he was just a normal club president.
I wouldn't think satsuki needed to give him permission to make one himself nor is it a matter from episode 18, remember they sucked up life fibers from the COVERS in this weeks episode? And notice how he has been using a nudist labcoat while onboard the ship? (Open top lab coat with a nudist badge just around the crotch and no stars meaning it isn't a ultima uniform) , so that's not his old uniform so the only explanation would be is that he made one himself while they collected stray life fibers
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Everything that needed to happen in this episode did. Everything great that could've happened in this episode did. I was expecting to be disappointed after ep. 20 but all the bad stuff that I thought could happen didn't.
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Life fiber is Lavos
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Life fiber is Lavos
pretty sure literally everyone who played CT thinks this
I figured it's pretty Phaaze too in the sense that it spreads this way
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pretty sure literally everyone who played CT thinks this
I'm Everyone and I agree.
Kill Lavos Kill
Mako Trigger
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So I just finally caught up after a long period of shit internet, skimmed the thread so I'm probably repeating what's already been said, but this is what I got:
This show as it turns out is deliberately and quite blatantly making fun of and criticizing organized religion and fanatism and mormons.
I mean fucking look, since the start they're talking of the original sin, Raigyou is basically a religious nutjob a la Joseph Smith/Fred Phelps/Pick Your Maniac, who thinks she herself alone has seen the Truth of The World, and she'll work through any means necessary to impose her perceived salvation(fucking sentient clothes) on everyone. Hell, she's even crucified by her daughter, if that's not a direct poke on christianism nothing is. Also salvation comes from freaking aliens from space and there's an alien spaceship of salvation, mormons I tell ya.
And then there's Ryuuko and Satsuki finally mutually accepting that the reality of the world is beyond their immediate comprehension, as per demonstrated by the lunatics that follow them, and it's okay to not know everything. That's also pretty obviously to me a praise to skepticism and only saying you know things when you know things, as opposed to taking a spoonfed story as the all truth as per religious indocrination.
I know, I'm spouting edgy as fuck shit here, but it's fun as hell
Senketsu is mai goddamn husbando btw. He even goes full tsundere. I'm mad gay for a piece of clothing.
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I'm...gonna go ahead and say you're reading in a whole lot of stuff that isn't there due to people using reasonably common idioms.
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I know
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its time
FOR MAXIMUM HYPE
Mako's power level confirmed >9000
...ragyou can just fly by herself
why did she ever need a helicopter
and she likes to molest herself
noo mako pls ;-;
...WOOPS NVM
ITS MOTHERFUCKING TIMEEEEE
GOLDEN 3 STARRRRRR
OMGGGGGGG
WHAT
WHAAAT
2 STAR POWER YES
shit its nui time this can never be good
oh fuck and she's armed
GODDAMMIT NUI DONT FUCK WITH THE ED
next week is the final episode noooo ;___;
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All of the power gauges on Mako read 9999 except for the one on her head. Nothing can fix that, apparently.
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just like a certain other strongest one :V
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Goddammit fansubs go up already
I have to start homework in half an hour and the raws aren't even up. ;_;
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Er... I just read a thing saying the American version was delayed
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Yeah, I know. I want my KLK on Thursdays, not Fridays goddammit. Especially the last two episodes. DX
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It's being delayed 12 - 24 hours apparently, what a great time for this to happen yo :/
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underwater subs are out GET HYPE
so uh i just noticed
THIS IS CANON (http://i.imgur.com/flQdblH.png)
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underwater subs are out GET HYPE
so uh i just noticed
THIS IS CANON (http://i.imgur.com/flQdblH.png)
Oh shit oh shit
LET'S DO THIS
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So for the last episode is probably going to be one of either
1. Standard ending: Ragyou is defeated, Honnoji is reformed, everyone lives happily ever after
2. Death flags activate: a ton of people die in the fight like TTGL but Ragyou is still beat and the ending is bitter sweet
3. TRIGGER ENDING: Ragyou is about to be defeated, but then she or Nui pulls a fast one, kills everyone, and season 2 of Panty and Stocking is confirmed
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I'm disappointed by the lack of Maiko, but otherwise good episode.
Am I the only one who thinks the original life fiber should have been the final boss?
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I'm disappointed by the lack of Maiko
I think she's standing behind the butler in the team shot
also i think Nui would be the most fitting true final boss since she's been the most plot relevant antagonist of the show
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This has been bothering me for a long time now:
18 episodes later and they still haven't explained why Tsumugu could hear Senketsu that one time.
*SIIIIIIIGH*
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So for the last episode is probably going to be one of either
1. Standard ending: Ragyou is defeated, Honnoji is reformed, everyone lives happily ever after
2. Death flags activate: a ton of people die in the fight like TTGL but Ragyou is still beat and the ending is bitter sweet
3. TRIGGER ENDING: Ragyou is about to be defeated, but then she or Nui pulls a fast one, kills everyone, and season 2 of Panty and Stocking is confirmed
Honestly, I heavily expect the last two, especially with how TTGL and P&S ended, but my heart just really wants the first to happen...please...
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awesome episode, Mako rocks, Ryuuko rocks, Satsuki rocks, the Elite 4 are the greatest, wtf Ragyo, etc etc
No seriously I was afraid that after the previous episode anything else would be lackluster but this followed up perfectly
Anyone wondering what the hell was up with Rei being absorbed, though? I mean... why is that relevant? Personally I have the theory that Rei is immortal somehow, since she was basically killed twice in ep 18 but kept coming back with no apparent injuries, and, well, her surname references what is basically a phoenix, so maybe it has something to do with making Ragyo even more indestructible?
So for the last episode is probably going to be one of either
1. Standard ending: Ragyou is defeated, Honnoji is reformed, everyone lives happily ever after
2. Death flags activate: a ton of people die in the fight like TTGL but Ragyou is still beat and the ending is bitter sweet
3. TRIGGER ENDING: Ragyou is about to be defeated, but then she or Nui pulls a fast one, kills everyone, and season 2 of Panty and Stocking is confirmed
You know, for once, I'd love to just have something like the first one. I'm tired of mind-screws for endings.
This has been bothering me for a long time now: 18 episodes later and they still haven't explained why Tsumugu could hear Senketsu that one time.
*SIIIIIIIGH*
Agreed, actually. Also I still don't understand why they shadowed Kinue's face in the flashbacks. Was it just to make it a "maybe she's Ryuuko's mother" red herring?
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FUCKING MORMONS
This was the best episode ever
Also the ship really really looks like a Bentusi ship. Please world let someone get this.
Also DOUBLE SPINDASH. I forgot to mention in my mormon theory that Ryuuko and Satsuki are basically Shadow and Sonic, only not, but almost
I'm surprised nobody made weird-ass sonic porn of this yet
Also finally shitty bitch that did nothing but stand next to Ragyou and look serious all season becomes relevant.
Nonon getts hotter every episode
Also D-D-D-D-D-DEUS EX MAKONA
Might wanna spoiler tag that stuff yo
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yes time for iori to fight next ep
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I thought that Ragyou
kept Satsuki alive in episode 19 so that she could absorb Satsuki into Shinra-Kotetsu.
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I thought that Ragyou kept Satsuki alive in episode 19 so that she could absorb Satsuki into Shinra-Kotetsu.
That probably was her plan, but it's not like she could do it after Satsuki escaped. Maybe she'll try it next episode.
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I knew nothing could top the last episode, but this did a good job of following up.
Unexpected twist to have the Ultimate Life Fiber go down already, but I guess it makes sense to have the last battle be focused on Ragyo and Nui.
Speaking of which, my thought process at the end went something like:
"Huh, that was a good episode. I guess I will watch the ed for once rather than skipping it....huh was Nui always in Mako's he- OH SHIT SON!"
I am slightly surprised that Nui didn't backstab Ragyo the second she got arms again. So much for my "Nui is final boss" guess. :/
Epic tea time break! Also the whole "smash the cups on the ground" actually had a meaning behind it other that it looks cool.
Mako
actually doing something kicking ass was fun to watch, but the Elite 4 will always be tops in my book. Especially when they went and took on fucking Ragyo.
All in all great episode. Not as hype as the last two but still great in its own right. I really wonder how everything will play out, though I do see practically everyone getting absorbed into Shinra Koketsu by the 5 min mark.
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The return of the
early episode antagonists
made my day.
Also I want another Iori high five. At this point, that's about all I have on my wishlist other than Mako and Ryuuko enacting the fake wedding memory. They have granted just about every other wish I could have, short of Simon and Kamina appearing for no goddamn reason.
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I'm disappointed by the lack of Maiko
Npoe here she is (https://31.media.tumblr.com/e66fbf346461922d03ffd1e51df1420c/tumblr_inline_n2srdq6MNH1r3esmj.png)
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Npoe here she is (https://31.media.tumblr.com/e66fbf346461922d03ffd1e51df1420c/tumblr_inline_n2srdq6MNH1r3esmj.png)
Yep, I noticed. And now I'm (mostly) happy.
I half expected Shinra Koketsu to be a mech and two people (probably Mako and Nonon) sacrifices themselves to turn Senketsu and Junketsu into mechs. Then the final episode would be an epic space battle ala TTGL.
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I half expected Shinra Koketsu to be a mech and two people (probably Mako and Nonon) sacrifices themselves to turn Senketsu and Junketsu into mechs. Then the final episode would be an epic space battle ala TTGL.
I'm still kind of expecting that to happen.
Also I was expecting Naked Sun to turn into a giant robot. And I guess it still might too.
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Well they already did the
ram-Dai-Gurren-into-massive-object
part.
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Why do I have the feeling that
Nui will die a horrible gore death? I don't want this to happen... ;~;
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Why do I have the feeling that Nui will die a horrible gore death? I don't want this to happen... ;~;
I do
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So the "main song" is titled "Before My Body Runs Dry". With all of the blood loss Ryuko's suffered (especially after tearing off Junketsu), I think Ryuko might not be able to finish the fight. Granted she can sync better with Senketsu so it isn't as much of an issue as it was at the start of the season.
Also I'm hoping for a one hour final episode special, but I don't know if I'd be able to handle it if it was.
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So the "main song" is titled "Before My Body Runs Dry". With all of the blood loss Ryuko's suffered (especially after tearing off Junketsu), I think Ryuko might not be able to finish the fight.
eating croquettes = blood refill
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probably because there's a lot of blood among the mysterious things in them :derp:
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So unless I blinked and missed it, Tsumugu still has not used his Macguffin weapons, right? I have to imagine they'll have to be decisive in the last fight. Although an after-the-credits sting where he checks his Nudist pockets and finds them and is all like "Oh shit, I wish I had remembered that I had these earlier" would be pretty good.
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I'm seriously wondering how they'll be able to fit the whole battle in little more than 20 minutes.
That's because it won't be the battle alone, there will be the ending and other stuff involved as well, so I'm guessing the battle itself will be pretty short...
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I heard somewhere it was slated for 25 episodes, not 24
[Citation Needed]
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So unless I blinked and missed it, Tsumugu still has not used his Macguffin weapons, right? I have to imagine they'll have to be decisive in the last fight. Although an after-the-credits sting where he checks his Nudist pockets and finds them and is all like "Oh shit, I wish I had remembered that I had these earlier" would be pretty good.
You mean the tailor's dagger and glove? I thought I saw Nonon or someone using them at some point.
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I thought that Sanageyama took them after he gave the Bakuzan pieces to Satsuki.
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The only reason they were called to attention, I assume, was to explain why the resistance was able to fight the COVERS at all. I don't think those items will have any more significance to the plot.
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I thought that Sanageyama took them after he gave the Bakuzan pieces to Satsuki.
Sanageyama took the Tailor's Dagger
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I do
[nsfw]http://i.imgur.com/4RNr6Bs.jpg[/nsfw]
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You mean the tailor's dagger and glove? I thought I saw Nonon or someone using them at some point.
I thought that Sanageyama took them after he gave the Bakuzan pieces to Satsuki.
Sanageyama took the Tailor's Dagger
Oh, okay. Fair enough, I totally missed that.
[nsfw]http://i.imgur.com/4RNr6Bs.jpg[/nsfw]
[edna krabappel]Ha![/edna krabappel]
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FINAL FUCKING EPISODE TODAY
IS YOUR BODY READY
mine isnt ;-;
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They better fucking come out with the sub today. I'm staying up.
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They better fucking come out with the sub today. I'm staying up.
Due to production issues, episode 24 of Kill La Kill is expected to be delayed by 12-24 hours. We thank you for your patience and continued support.
I'M GETTING TIRED OF YOUR SHIT CRUNCHY
(guess we have to wait for underwater instead)
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Good thing I said something. :colonveeplusalpha:
What's that mean? How long the wait?
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Technically, it's Trigger themselves falling behind with their own subs... but yeah, this is getting very annoying. The latter half of this series has just been delay after delay with the subs.
We should be getting their subs in by around 10PM West Coast time, if previous episodes are to be taken as a template for how this is going to go. Might as well watch it raw first, then go with the fan subs.
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I was going to do that, but I'm watching with a group of friends and they threatened me with bodily harm if I spoiled it for myself and watched the raws ahead of time
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I'm just gonna wait until tomorrow and hide offline tonight. I'll watch last week's Space Dandy and Sakura Trick instead.
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welp i'm watching the raw RIGHT NOW LETS GO
NUDIST MECHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
DOUBLE NAKED DTRRRRRrrrrrrrfuck
nudist beach confirmed for forever joke characters ;_;
OH SHIT GAMANOOOOOOOOO
SATSUKI WITH THE OTHER SCISSOR BLADE
ITS HAPPENINNGGSDGSDGGGAFFF
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FUCKING GAMAGOORI I SWEAR
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FUCKING GAMAGOORI I SWEAR
WHAT THE FUCK
HE JUST WENT FULL FUCKING GUNMAN AAHAHAHAHADWDWDAWDA
I FCUKING KNEW IT
I NUI IT
NUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
TIME FOR SPACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IT'S HAPPENNINGG
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I wanna know where you are watching these Raw. I can't find any online for the life of me.
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BY YOUR POWERS COMBINED, I AM CAPTAIN NUDIST
RIP SENKETSU
RIP KLK
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after the first episode i thought the final episode would culminate with everyone wearing universe sized uniforms
but now its clear that the final episode will just have everyone fighting totally naked
welp close enough :V
ALSO NONON WITH HER HAIR DOWN THO
SHORT HAIR SATSUKI
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So now that the series is over, how would you rate it? Feel free to post throughout the day, as the subs come out.
I myself would give it a 7/10. Lots of action and a great soundtrack, but it's all embellishments for an admittedly mediocre story. The animation gets kinda sloppy towards the end, too, and we don't get to learn very much about the supporting cast. At least the constant cliffhangers kept it somewhat engaging...?
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I had fun, and that's all I really care about. Numeric rating scales are dumb.
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saved/10
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Mako Harem End
/10
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wow in the end Purvis actually got his
final MakoRyuko wish
Also Final la Kill Total:
First episode scrub
Nui
Ragyou
Senketsu ;-;7
4 people were kill. And only during the first and last episodes.
But also Nui and Ragyou were suicides and Senketsu wore himself out.
So literally the only Kill in Kill la Kill is the guy in episode 1 :getdown:
Also
(http://i.imgur.com/ztnZU2H.png)
THANKS OBAMA
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But also Nui and Ragyou were suicides and Senketsu wore himself out.
Eh, it still counts in my book. Also, you forgot Soichiro/Isshin
, though that was a flashback, so I dunno.
Well, at least the title's not COMPLETELY invalid.
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All I have to say is...
Naked people... IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE.
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So nothing super surprising happened in that ending, but I've very happy with it. The metaphor wrapped itself up very nicely and a happy ending is fine sometimes.
Re: Gamagoori (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLGeapJNg4A)
Poor Senketsu. I'd pretend I'm shocked, but let's face it buddy, that was going to happen.
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;_;/10
This was the best ever ;-;
Also the 1st ED was the ending all along
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So, for better or for worse, it was pretty much the kind of ending I expected. Writing and directing quality in this episode mirrored the rest of the series:
ALL OVER THE PLACE!
Notes:
I'll admit I totally did not see that yuri ship actually coming to port. Heck, I expected that "date" conversation to serve as a Ryuko death flag. Poor Gamagoori.
It's funny to me that they used convenient censoring when Ryuko blasted off into space, then proceeded to use no censorship whatsoever for the rest of the episode.
Any complaints I had with the ending went out the window when short-haired casual Satsuki appeared. I mean yeah hatless Nonon was great and all, but damn...
Speaking of Satsuki, that sisterly love in the end when she caught Ryuko and welcomed her home nearly did me in. I'm a sucker for family moments.
In the end, this was a very fun series that proves (to myself at least) that you shouldn't judge a book by it's perverted transformation sequence. Or something like that. :V
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Also
[nsfw]http://i.imgur.com/vwQHcpJ.jpg[/nsfw]
Re-entry is a bitch to underwear
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ITT: Triumphalism.
LOOK AT ALL YOU FAITHLESS MOTHERFUCKERS WITH DELICIOUS EGG UPON YOUR FACES! I DONE DID DONE TOLD YOU.
Okay, for reals, I never thought they'd actually move from subtext to hypertext. I wonder if this will stop the Mako/Gamagoori shippers, though?
Speaking of Gamagoori, I howled like a maniac when the metalworker came up. And now he is a Gunmangoori.
My only even slight disappointment was that Ryuuko didn't say fuck everything and declare she can handle a goddamn reentry. It didn't even need to work, I just wanted her to try.
So, when's season 2: University Years and Anti-Spiral Dreams?
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"the plot of kill la kill is two sisters trying to scissor their mom"
I feel like this plot summary is more relevant than ever.
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One of the rare episodes where Ragyou appeared and didn't molest anyone.
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I definetly didn't tear up when
Senketsu died. Nope. I'M NOT CRYING BECAUSE OF A PIECE OF CLOTHING. AAAAAAAAAAA
Well, excellent ending. Thank the gods Trigger went with just a straight (well not quite hohoho) ending. It fit really well with the rest of the story.
...
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......................................................why did Rei absorption allowed the super kamui to do it's absolute subjugation thing though. And what happened to her afterwards. This is important. Why did I get attached to a 0 bit character. ugh.
I wonder if this will stop the Mako/Gamagoori shippers, though?
hahahahahahaha...
I could hear their cries of "SHE MEANT A PLATONIC DATE"
the moment the scene happened
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Oh, man. No regrets about watching this one. The characters' serially ridiculous personalities mixed with the action well and the clamorous results remained at a fever pitch for the entire duration without exhausting its boundless energy. Pacing was great. The last episode was jam-packed with stuff but never felt strained. It also had a great soundtrack that never failed to get the audience pumped. The entire spectacle was a joy to watch. There was a constant stream of effort to channel the mood and feel of TTGL yet Kill la Kill was very much its own series.
It wasn't perfect, though, and nothing should be. It did have a few weak points. Sometimes the way the characters and plot meshed just didn't come together as well as it could've, and so the characters and writing seemed to just happen willy-nilly at times. I also had to seriously look at how much I was enjoying the series around episode 20 because of this.
Y'all can bang your Satsuki drums as much as you please, but it wasn't until that ep. 20 mark that I could stand her whatsoever. Yes, I am predisposed to want to punch a character in their word hole whose defining introduction included the "fear is freedom!" declaration. To me, it's a lot of mouth flatus, but that's still a strong reaction to a character and a personality. Whenever storytelling is involved, strong feelings towards a character are typically a good thing regardless of which way they go. Unfortunately, Satsuki also got her butt kissed by the script/plot a number of times, which almost killed the tension and fun of the series for me. Things quickly went from "I hate this character" to "this would be more fun if she pulled a Poochy and disappeared". Luckily, it never got too bad, and the last 5 episodes really helped right the ship. At high speed. Using cannons and hamminess and probably bacon.
I dunno. With so many other strong points, this felt like the one weak link that stood out. Ryuuko would do something bold and defiant and be all tough while Don't Lose Your Way would triumphantly storm into the soundtrack. Mako would cut the tension and add some silliness. Mikisugi would be... himself while providing exposition. All the other major characters that popped up had a role. Satsuki just felt like she could make them all pointless because everything went her way for no reason until she got hit with a giant heap of character development later on in the series. Her character just really clashed with everything I've learned about how to tell a good story regardless of the medium. I've spent enough time on a single hang-up, so... yeah.
...
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......................................................why did Rei absorption allowed the super kamui to do it's absolute subjugation thing though. And what happened to her afterwards. This is important. Why did I get attached to a 0 bit character. ugh.
I noticed she went "bleh" when she was kicked out and that was the last of it.
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I think the whole reason everything went Satsuki's way in the first half of the series is to make it all the more shocking when Ragyou just crush everything she was working for for 13 years in 10 seconds. It's just classic "make this character uber awesome and then have them defeated to show how much more uber awesome this other character is", only dragged for 18 episodes. I was entirely fine with it because I liked her forceful, dominant and larger than life personality, but I can see why it'd grate on some people's nerves.
.I noticed she went "bleh" when she was kicked out and that was the last of it.
Yeah. I guess tertiary characters can only get the lame "gets hit in the head by a rock and die" death ; .;
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Huh, I guess Gamagoori is Gurren Lagann in human form......
Well, that was a decent ending. At the very least it wasn't one of those 'everybody dies' fests.
All in all, the series had its weaknesses - but it was fun. In the end, that's pretty much all that matters for me.
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One of the rare episodes where Ragyou appeared and didn't molest anyone.
She molested herself. And Nui.
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I think the whole reason everything went Satsuki's way in the first half of the series is to make it all the more shocking when Ragyou just crush everything she was working for for 13 years in 10 seconds. It's just classic "make this character uber awesome and then have them defeated to show how much more uber awesome this other character is", only dragged for 18 episodes. I was entirely fine with it because I liked her forceful, dominant and larger than life personality, but I can see why it'd grate on some people's nerves.
Yeah, personalities are definitely a to-each-his-own type thing. I adored Ryuuko from the get-go for being Satsuki's inverse in a lot of ways.
As for the other stuff, yeah, Satsuki gets a bit of preferential treatment during the first half, but I was thinking more along the lines to what happened after the first Ragyou fight. Ryuuko had her character development wheels in the sand. Satsuki, meanwhile, was left by herself despite being dangerous. She gets the died-for-your-sins bound and beaten shot with the sunlight pouring over her and is then left completely unguarded because... she's not dangerous at all anymore? That was smart. She busts out a magical toenail of +3 plot advancement and has the opportunity to sharpen it in order escape. She easily cuts through some minions with some out-of-nowhere kung-fu. The kicker is that her buddies are waiting for her outside the first exit she takes. They have survived the counterattack thanks to the efforts of the very organization Satsuki just tried to wipe out. They are also there for the rescue because of the very organization Satsuki just tried to wipe out. At the end of that very same episode, Satsuki shows up in Senketsu, who was an integral part of Ryuuko's development from the start. If Satsuki wound up wearing him better than Ryuuko ever did, the rotten tomatoes were going to come out. Luckily, things didn't get out of control after that.
Huh, I guess Gamagoori is Gurren Lagann in human form......
Well, that was a decent ending. At the very least it wasn't one of those 'everybody dies' fests.
All in all, the series had its weaknesses - but it was fun. In the end, that's pretty much all that matters for me.
And thank goodness it was!
She molested herself. And Nui.
She also molested her heart to the point that it popped.
So Ryuuko was trying to cut through the life fibers around Ragyou's heart with the scissor blade(s) in order to be able to kill her. Does this mean Ryuuko needed a shear heart attack? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheer_Heart_Attack)
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That episode was great
I didn't see Senketsu dying coming so I was shocked and upset, but the giant cuddle pile at the end made up for it. I kind of cried at those parts and when Satsuki was like RYUUUKOOOOOO and running full speed to catch her. Although, there were some things I was left wondering about: Rei, Junketsu, and Ragyo. I feel like some characters kind of got the short stick in character development. However, I hear there's an OVA coming so I'm looking forward to that.
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That episode was great
I didn't see Senketsu dying coming so I was shocked and upset, but the giant cuddle pile at the end made up for it. I kind of cried at those parts and when Satsuki was like RYUUUKOOOOOO and running full speed to catch her. Although, there were some things I was left wondering about: Rei, Junketsu, and Ragyo. I feel like some characters kind of got the short stick in character development. However, I hear there's an OVA coming so I'm looking forward to that.
Yeah, let's go OVA!
Nudist beach episode anyone?
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Welp, I guess in the end every Shadow the Hedgehog joke people made about the series wound up being accurate in the end.
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Anyone who referred Shadow the Hedgehog and not Goku is a bad person who has bad thoughts and should be removed from whatever friending system your social mediarahan of choice has.
I still maintain the one of the best parts of this series was that Satsuki could never take a punch, and the moment a fight turned into a scrap she went down and stayed down.
Any word on the nature or subject of that OVA? I am anticipating something akin to what they did with TTGL in that respect.
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According to Crunchyroll (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/12/19/kill-la-kill-blu-rays-to-feature-soundtrack-and-ova) the OVA will be released with the Blu-rays. We'll have to wait until September, though orz
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Anyone who referred Shadow the Hedgehog and not Goku is a bad person who has bad thoughts and should be removed from whatever friending system your social mediarahan of choice has.
In the Ryuko x Satsuki fight they literally spindash against each other though(I'm not on my computer where I saved the screenshot, so if anyone else can provide), so you're wrong
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That goes back to mecha anime.
Also you're banned for being a bad person with bad thoughts. Turn in your badge at the front desk.
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That goes back to mecha anime.
Metal Sonic-
/me was shot for this post.
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Any word on the nature or subject of that OVA? I am anticipating something akin to what they did with TTGL in that respect.
From what I read (http://www.moetron.com/2014/03/28/kill-la-kill-episode-25-ova-preview/), it's gonna be an epilogue OVA focusing on Ryuuko's graduation from Honnouji High School. It will, as previously said, be released in September.
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You know. I was contemplating making a joke to the tune of "So did Ryuuko get all A's for this?"
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That goes back to mecha anime.
That goes back to many things. Just accept the sanic that resides in your heart
From what I read (http://www.moetron.com/2014/03/28/kill-la-kill-episode-25-ova-preview/), it's gonna be an epilogue OVA focusing on Ryuuko's graduation from Honnouji High School. It will, as previously said, be released in September.
Eh, I wanted a beach episode. A nudisto beach episode.
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From what I read (http://www.moetron.com/2014/03/28/kill-la-kill-episode-25-ova-preview/), it's gonna be an epilogue OVA focusing on Ryuuko's graduation from Honnouji High School. It will, as previously said, be released in September.
I was hoping Ryuko would be student council president while Satsuki and the Elite 4 run the newly-reformed REVOCS.
Eh, I can dream until it comes out.
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I was hoping Ryuko would be student council president
Fight club now mandatory.
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Saved.mp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHEenNBEy50)
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What a real great series.. but not as good as TTGL. But it's close to it, still. :P
Glad I watched it, since originally I didn't want to.
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So literally the only Kill in Kill la Kill is the guy in episode 1 :getdown:
He didn't die.
(http://imgur.com/qnzQoIL.png)
Though I can see why people missed that, what with it being in episode 17 and all.
All in all, I enjoyed the show. I was satisfied with this ending. As a symbolic story of a girl going through puberty and reaching adulthood(Senketsu, you bro!) it worked rather well.
It's been some years that I actually watch a series as it comes out, normally I just watch after it's done. The last one was Fate/Zero, and it was more because I just wanted to see how they're gonna do it, since I already know the story.
I really find the characters to be likeable, but if I have to choose, the Four Devas are what keep me going and to me, Gamagoori Ira is the best character.
Like, I was hype as f**k when he came down just like the way he did in episode 1.
If we are to bring TTGL, then he's Lordgenome(also my favorite).
(http://i.imgur.com/cnRJebU.png)
They even did the same "Achievement" that is only unlockable during the Final Boss Fight:
- Have a cool entrance
- Scream something with ''任せてもらおう'' (Leave it to me)
- Beat the crap out of whatever you are opposing
And they both use whip and burst out flames. No wonder I find him so amazing. Definitely the best moment for me in this last episode.
As for Ryuuko's final form, Fashion Week, huh? Such a weird name to choose even though Kisaragi is a cool name
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Seriously people, what's with all this "super saiyan" and "super sonic"? Did you forget the greatness that is Nono, Buster Machine 7 (http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/190/7111-6042_diebuster_gunbuster_2_nono_super.png)? Is the color scheme not obvious enough? For shame!
One thing that I also liked for this anime is how they use vocals as BGM. It's not easy to make it blend with the scene since most times the vocals will get drowned or overshadowed the scene. But I think Kill la Kill did a good job on this part. It sure was a pretty fun experience and I'll remember this show.
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Seriously people, what's with all this "super saiyan" and "super sonic"? Did you forget the greatness that is Nono, Buster Machine 7 (http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/190/7111-6042_diebuster_gunbuster_2_nono_super.png)? Is the color scheme not obvious enough? For shame!
The group of people I watch Kill La Kill with is also watching Diebuster right now with me, mostly for the first time. We haven't gotten that far yet, but I almost wanted to spoil it for them because it was so cool. At any rate, I think that scene/design is a combination of a bunch of things. But the hair definitely seems to be Buster Machine Number Seven.
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I am not disappointed. It was a great series to watch.
Now to wait for my awesome KlK fightan :V
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Is there any reason I can't easily find the official verson of Light your Heart up? Everyone else I can find easily on Youtube, but I have to off site for that song.
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Commence fan theory spree (http://i.imgur.com/btWvQab.jpg)
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Commence fan theory spree (http://i.imgur.com/btWvQab.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ztnZU2H.png)
THANKS OBAMA
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cocks
Look up
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Best series in this tree year
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Best series in this tree year
You know what this didn't need? A bump from 3 months ago.